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May 24, 2025 63 mins

Today on Moment of Zen is a conversation I had with Samo Burja back in January 2024 on Japan's existential demographic crisis, analyzing how collapsing fertility rates and population aging threaten the nation's economic and geopolitical future. The discussion explores cultural barriers to family formation, automation limitations, and Japan's dilemma between preserving identity versus accepting transformative change.


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HIGHLIGHTS OF THE DISCUSSION:

Demographic Crisis

  • Fertility rate collapsed to 1.3 - population shrinking from 125M to 50M this century
  • Aging dependency ratio crushing economy - fewer workers supporting more elderly
  • Young people may emigrate if decline accelerates

Cultural Challenges

  • Work vs. family contradiction - salaryman culture prioritizes career over children
  • Proposed solution: Require executives to have 2+ kids
  • 97% ethnic homogeneity creates social cohesion but limits immigration options

Economic Implications

  • Automation needs scale - fewer people makes it less effective
  • Japan's productivity gains vanish when controlling for aging
  • Risk of economic tailspin and brain drain

Military Transformation

  • From pacifist to military power - world-class navy, converting carriers for F-35Bs
  • Nuclear weapons ready - space program + plutonium = "some assembly required"
  • Key player in Taiwan scenarios

Geopolitical Positioning

  • Economically tied to China, security-wise allied with US
  • Will stay politically independent from China due to nationalism
  • Would go nuclear if US withdraws from East Asia

Japan must choose: Maintain cultural identity and accept economic decline, or transform through immigration to stay economically viable. Currently choosing the former while hoping automation saves them.



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