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March 22, 2021 • 66 mins
We kick off this week with Robin turning 41 & Wags threw a surprise party for her.....at her house. Charisse had her first night out with the MAMs. Was it all she expected? We discuss the latest in the world of icky internet trolls and Leah is on a rampage .... Children need to be off limits! Later we discuss the fallout of Triviagate .... Did we cheat or is Jeff just still a sore loser? Robin brings us a stupid PA law, Wags gives us a strange phase and we choose between wedgies and high fives.

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(00:03):
I might not listen every Monday,but when I listened to the man's that
fucking music gets me hyped. Andthen I fucking jam give us the preview
check, I'm like, it's likeI removed him. Hold on, there
we go. I hit the wrongbutton. Mom's in Mayhem. It's Melia

(00:31):
and I'm here with my girl,Wags and Robin. Here the day up.
You never listen to an episode atall? What it's like, It's
like, Hey, my good morning, Dub Dag. We're here talking about

(00:58):
shit. What's up my guys,Dragons Dragons with my girl Robin, wag
Robin, Robin Robin and wag WagonSeller. We're here for a great rob.

(01:21):
Here we go, Happy Mandy,everyone, thanks for tuning in to
Mom to Mayhem. Um. Ihope you missed us because we haven't really
been here in two weeks, butI am your host, hand of the
poop. Sorry, and with me, as always, we have Amanda Wax.

(01:44):
How you doing, Wax? Youlook very um, fresh, based
and feisty right now. I doyou know what? I contoured a little
bit because I wasn't gonna do lashestoday and I don't want anybody to come
at me for looking like a collegestudent. So I did a little contour,
a little bro answer, and um, yeah, that's going on right

(02:07):
now, I do I have Idon't have gray roots anymore. So it's
like amazing, Like I should notprobably go somewhere. So if anybody wants
to take me on a date,I'll catch I mean not really, I'm
not really interested in dating. Um, I mean I'm still married, but

(02:28):
if I were, I definitely wouldnot want to be dating. Like dating
is something I have no interest in. So I have zero interest in dating.
I don't want to date. Idon't want to do the tender ship.
I don't think I could. Ithink I would lose my mind.
I would be celibate for the restof my life. If those were my
options, it would be celibate forever. Speaking of dating and tender Robin's with

(02:49):
us too. Well, if thatfucking depressed, I don't know what is
jeetus, I'll just go jump offa bridge. Now we did really set
her up for a bad introduction.We're like beatings awful to both of you
are sitting here looking amazing and beautiful, and then you're like gold everything.
I'll be selimant, but and thenhere's me looking like a fucking dumpster fire.

(03:15):
And I don't think you looked badat all. I think you look
really you did. I'm digging theeyeshadow a lot. It's green because I
want my hairs to be envious.Now it sounded good. I mean,
this is gonna be on YouTube,so obviously we get a lot of flak

(03:38):
on YouTube. I never really wantthese people too to see the fact that
on like it's okay to be green. It is. I like it,
Thanks appreciate it. Why as youchanging the backgrounds? Please do that for
me? It totally forgot to that. No, it's started wing, ma'am.

(04:00):
Sure you're like, that's my nextventure. I'm leaving y'all and I'm
starting a new show called Pua Dice. That's that's even better. Suree,
just cover my fucking vase up.Okay, you want to take over so
badly, Just just take discover usup. Okay. She become a producer

(04:25):
and then she infortrates and become everythingof us. That's how I did it,
She, That's exactly how you didit. She. You had an
interview and then suddenly, oh mygod, Soda juries. I interviewed Juries
and look at her. Now,it's you, it's me, it's me.
I bring on the lost children apparent. That's what happens when you feed

(04:48):
triannimals. They never leave. Theynever leave exactly. So you're still here
to Robin's still here. Thank you, guys. Guys, don't leave me
a little just a little bit,so we don't start, because obviously I
don't feel hungry. So um,speaking of Cherie, Cherie got to experience
her first ma'am outing this weekend,and I think we should talk about her

(05:13):
while she's in the backyard. Whatdo you think flags showed that she still
showed up after meeting us in person. I mean that's like the number one
Usually like after we meet people inperson, they're like, yeah, maybe
not so much. Ters is like, yeah, I'm gonna show back up.
She's so much fun, she wasmore she can't conduct us. I

(05:34):
think that's true. I think it'sabsolutely true. I think I thought we
were going to scare her away,but it turns out that Cherisy Pooh can
get her boogie on with square blowup men, and it's a really good
fucking time. I heard down thepipeline that she was actually designing a T

(05:58):
shirt with our faces on them.I heard that that was in the works
and we're all Disney princesses. That'swhat I heard. Oh head, But
I'm going to manifest it, likewow, if I just speak it into
existence, it will happen. Couldyou imagine, sure, she's walking around
with our faces on a T shirtand we're walking with her. I absolutely

(06:20):
can't imagine that. I think weneed to happen. Yeah, And I
think we should all wear the Reslessface on our on our chest. I
think it would be crazy. Ever, there's like one of her on each
of us, and she's wearing considersay no more, fans say no more.
We met Therese before we met Christa. I think that's true. We

(06:44):
were working with working with Christopher likewhat like nine months before we actually met
her, and then Krista left us. Christa was like, I'm going to
start a new show, Like Igotta find ways to get out of their
hand. Yeahs is just like I'mcoming back for more. Yeah, she's

(07:09):
going to be here. She hasher own place to be. So I
think Terse, like Andy Summers,thinks that we are delightful. That's what
I think. And I also thinkthat says more about Sheerise than it does
about us. I'm just saying she'sa very tolerable person. She took that
from the Mormon church tolerance, likehold on to a little bit. I

(07:31):
kept showing off like this is myMormon friend, you know, like I'm
third grade and I have something youdon't have. And it was just something
like you did an ex Mormon.But I just find it so fascinating because
the same thing when I was withthat Amish guy, like, yeah,
this is my Amish guy, thisis my Amish guy. Nobody really cares.
So funny you kept introducing so wagsWags did. I was just kind

(07:56):
of there, but wags through Robina surprise party this weekend for her,
okay, and Robin got all pissedoff because we threw it in her house.
I called your assholes, but Ididn't mean it, and I appreciate
it. Thank you, and Ilove you from the bottom of my heart.
Welcome and that is Parreo's preos.And then Leah just disappeared until today,

(08:16):
just all of our fruit text messages. That's right, I texted you
last night, Leah. Has I'velearned and I'm learning to accept it.
Leah doesn't go out, doesn't getout, she's not around other people.
So when she is around those people, she doesn't know how to behave.
She doesn't know how to respond,and she needs like two to three business

(08:37):
days to decompressed before she could behuman again. And I really hated her
for it because I'm like, whyare you following off the earth? And
now I realize I need Leah todo that because she doesn't know who she
is until like right before we startedrecording. Really don't, it's true,
And I think the thing is likeI need two to three to recover.

(09:01):
I am sick like the whole nextday. I wasn't even like that hungover.
I had DBD gummies, but Iwasn't hungover. It was staying up
late, Yeah I was. Istayed up really late. Yeah, stayed
up. Robin was like fuck this, I'm going to bed. She was
like, bast And we were onthe couch because Robin's house has said so

(09:26):
there was no way we were goingupstairs. Close a blankets in the stairs
for you. That's all the lightsone upstairs. And then I wake up
to like at the house with allthe lights one. I couldn't do it.
Go I'm just so scary. Ijust couldn't. I just couldn't do
it. Bags on operation your kitchen. She saw an apparition in your kitchen

(09:48):
or some shit, it's just something. I don't know which stop, but
beard in your kitchen. And thenupstairs, I swore heard somebody from down
your near your room say something.Was it snoring or was it the man
I keep under my bed? Itwas prying the man under your bed.
But I was like, I gottagrab my bag and go. And then
Lee and I stayed up and wewe pranked. Called Jeff at like four

(10:13):
o'clock in the morning and had allthese wonderful ideas for content, and he
said, write them down. Iwas like, why aren't you laughing?
This is the funniest thing I've eversaid in my entire life. Why don't
you find this humorous? He said, yeah, I'm sure it's really great.
Just write it down. I missedbefore I am. I think I

(10:33):
wasn't haying till like one. Yeah, yeah, it was like four.
It was definitely like three. Idrunk in this ill drunk, I really
was until we got back to thehouse and then it was you weren't that
drunk. I was, oh yeah, god, oh yeah, well yeah

(10:54):
yeah and I and then when Isat down, it all hit me and
that's when we laughed for like oneven it's my stomach hert. I was
like, oh my god, maybeI'm gonna get halves. Maybe I just
last off. That was I don'tremember what we were laughing about. But
Leah had on an afro. Ohmy god, I forgot about the afro.
Oh it was I last night,uh, Jeff. On Pookie and

(11:20):
Paradise, we record Pooki and Paradiseon Mondays, so Pooki and Paradise airs
before this does, but we recordthem back to back, so you'll hear
if you listen to Pooki and Paradiseon Thursday. You heard um that Wags
played the video of me getting onoff the very large cock. Um is

(11:43):
that there was no video of megetting on the cock. There is a
photo of me on the cock onthe man's Facebook page and Instagram if you'd
like to see it. Um.I was day drunk at like literally from
the time time we drove around likeI had one slushy. I was fucking
floored. I was hammered by thetime we got back to Brown's houses,

(12:07):
She's like, yeah, I stillhave a slushi in my car. But
then I realized I had the peanutstraw on it. It was the saushi
like a roadie that I took Moila, oh bribe, my own car on
my own birthday to the bar.I don't know. That's the other thing
too, You drove the whole Idon't know why we thought that was a

(12:31):
good idea. That was such abad idea. Um, but I want
to bring hey SHARISI poo pop infor a second. So so my new
friend so Sheiz and I um wentfor walk inside of the Math gas station,
which was a very very interesting trip, was it? Yeah, what

(12:56):
did you think, sheres? Whatdid you think of the Math gas station?
Um? I mean I thought itwas a little underwhelming. Uh,
it was certainly dirty. There wasthat atm receipt for someone that had eighty
one cents left in their account,and then there was like a really good
mullet at one of the uh thelottery machines in the back. The mullet

(13:20):
was unbelievable. The top was likebleach blonde and the bottom was like jet
black. Yep um and it.Keep in mind, this was like,
what three o'clock in the afternoon,there's people like, yeah, gambling,
straight up gambling all day. Itwas like, really, it was great.
It does not surprise me that thatis a meth hot spot. That

(13:43):
it was My takeaway from it.What do you think ahead, Yeah,
it definitely Like I just kept lookingat all the food and it looked like
it had like a dust film onit. So the whole place I was
like, this is a front andit's not even a front. Yeah,
but it doesn't make sense when theguys like that cop said that you don't

(14:05):
like the typical clientele, Yeah,that makes yes. Oh yeah, yeah,
it's like I'm a kingpin. Whatwhat were you going to? Well?
This is this is why I loveLeah more than I probably should.
Because Leah, I, Robin andI stay outside because we're from the area,

(14:31):
so we don't need to be intermixedwith people. But they're they're tourist
not really from the area, butI'm closest anyway. So Rob and I
record stuff outside, Leah and Charierecord stuff inside, and we're like we
want to get like really good youknow, video smash them up together.
Leo and Scharis were in there forlike three minutes, and it's like two

(14:54):
and a half minutes of Charie's a. This is pretty true. Leah had
the like trying to be I guessnot like the screet and all we can
see injuries is Beauty walked a lotand I was like, damn suree she
got a nice ass, but likeshe why did see the bullet? I
wore those leggings on purpose? Iknew, I knew there was a reason.

(15:18):
That was the reason. Wow,we're going to have some content in
case you ever want to sell somevideos of you walking around a meth gas
station. Because how about the guythe interview we had afterwards that was not
caught on film? Caught on film? What shirt was he wearing? God
smack o, godsmack. It wasn'teven a good light. And he had

(15:41):
like blue teeth, kind of likebluish teeth. Yeah, they were a
little blue, and it was itwas. He was a nice man.
He answered questions, didn't come close, but he answered my questions. He
did he did. Um, Ialmost got kidnapped by man on the rooster.

(16:02):
Um. If you didn't hear thatgoal, listen to Pookie Paradise will
we talked about it there. Umyeah, and oh we got to meet
Teresa's boyfriend, who was very nice, Yes, very nice, such a
gentleman guy. He's a sweetheart.He should put a ring on it,
like for real, Like he cameand picked you up, and he dropped

(16:25):
you off, picked you up.It was like, what boyfriend does my
husband? Sure shit, wouldn't notat like midnight? Fuck you. He's
so cute and we don't we don'tget a lot of time together like Saturdays
or there are only days that weboth have off. And he was like
so excited that I was gonna goout, Like he was like, yeah,

(16:48):
you gonna hang out with someone otherthan me, Like I'm so happy
for Saturday for me. But whenyou sent the text like oh, he's
just gonna watch Marvel all day,and I was like okay, great or
DC DC yes he sent the difference. So then like you guys all came
at like once and then sure wejumps out of this like ridiculous larger than

(17:12):
life pickup truck with a large lifebottle of up leo Walter happened. You're
like, let's go, let's gotake us to the take because here and
I'm like, oh my god,I left my front door wide the fuck
open. Just all Willie know,I don't think you didn't even open.
I think it was closed. Ithink they left it open when they came
in to decorate. Oh no,I left my front door open. Oh

(17:34):
you did shot my front door.Oh that's really funny because I thought we
were going to go to the gascome right back, and y'all kept stalling
me. Well now you know,no, I know that was that was
our weekends. It was you know, just get out. You were just
going to use my place without me, right, go back to the Originally

(17:56):
probably originally art X and I weregonna go take we do a photo shoot
four moms in Mayhem without Robin.She wasn't included at Robin's house. She
was like, can Lean I comeover about And I'm like, all right,
cool, Like if I'm not here, leave the door up, and
she's like, we need you.Oh I thought it was too I can

(18:18):
lave. Sure, we're just excinesin your bed, No big deal.
Oh and really quick, one morething about it. Um, we got
to meet the infamous Joanne. HiJojo And I want to say that my
goal in life is to make Mom'sin mayhem Um your favorite show instead of

(18:42):
Hook and Paradise, because I amvery competitive with Jeff and I will beat
him. It will be I willbe better your own bull shows, I
know, but it's his show.This one's mine doesn't count. She needs
to like the show. This onebetter. That's Robin's on the show.
She needs to listen to this onefirst. She always listens to Pip first.

(19:07):
Well she has to because in chronicleautogical chronicle logical is what I just
said. And then Kim listening nowfor like a brief five minutes because it's
something with Kim and her little lepperonesie with her boobs hanging out. Yeah,
she was cute. They were allreally nice. They were all so
nice, and Lindsay it was great. She's a good fucking vibe. They

(19:29):
were great. I really liked themall. They were really really fun.
And your parents. I have likea great picture with your mom because they
love your mom. I love yourdad. I think was talking to your
dad outside for a while and lovedme when we were at home people that
morning. So so that was ourweekend. It was fun. It was
fun. What should do it?Again, we should do it and I

(19:53):
know, like stage for wag sothat you guys can hang out and like
a SMI frazo. Yeah, wemight need an exorcist to come in next
time, just the save. Ithink the vortex that opened, I think
it opened in your house. Itall started when people started sitting as goddamn
brooms up. That's when the worldwent to ship. I was sitting in

(20:15):
the rooms like what you just said. Did you just say sitting the rooms
up? Remember when people were thestanding the brooms up, when they're like
standing them up? Oh, Ithought you said sinning the rooms up.
I thought you meant people were likehaving sex in the bedrooms. That's what
I thought you meant. Well thattoo, but that typically happened on Friday

(20:36):
and Saturdays. But when people starteddoing those weird tricks with the brooms,
that's when the world was I don'tremember any of that. It happened like
before COVID, like that happened,and then it months later COVID hit and
then it was like, well,now I need to look into this because

(20:56):
I don't know what it is.But I'm not doing now do it,
don't do it? Maybe if youdo it, you'll close it. Close
that human maybe to sage the world. It's me. I believe in you.
You can do it. I accidentallyopened up my loophole and sucking all

(21:18):
the brooms. That is what Ineed to do it in the bathtub,
so that like nastiness can drain downa drain, you know. Okay,
I'll do that. I will lookat it in the bathtub. Your phone,
your phone, No, not withmy phone. Now with my phone?
Um, I don't know. Twentyminutes. Should we take a break
and go into the MetOp Okay,We're gonna take a quick break while Robin

(21:41):
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(22:29):
and remember you are worthy of thelife you choose. Welcome back to
Mom's in Mayhem. So what weI am insisting about talking about? Katie

(22:53):
Joygan so him shoulder? Can youplease go change and then come back.
Yeah, I can pull out myshoulder, my hair in a messy ponytail
if everybody wants me to. Don'tshower, don't brush your teeth, you
know. I mean she had tocut her hair because of that rat's nest
from the last time. This isa wig. You can't tell it's a

(23:17):
good one. Um, But sowhat the actual fuck is what I'm gonna
say. That's all I have tosay. So somebody, this is not
the first time that somebody has feltthe need to call the police on Katie
Joy for talking about fucking fundies onYouTube, like stop it, you're fucking

(23:41):
assholes. But this time they decidedwe'll hold on. Isn't that what everyone
was telling her that they wanted herto go back and to do that,
like stop talking about everything else andgo back to like what you talk about.
I know I said that but Iknow other people have said that for
the people when I say this,they have that was a a big thing.

(24:07):
So she did. She did.She even stopped talking about it on
her blogging channel. So you knowwhat happened. The asshole trolls that have
literally nothing better to do than topick on Katie Joy Pauls then decided that
they were going to invent some kindof drama. Now, I will be
totally honest here, I don't knowthe entire story. I know what I

(24:33):
read, and I started watching somevideos, but I thought it was really
There were a couple of tweets thatI thought were super super interesting, and
one of which is from someone dramaEsquire, who was someone that used to
cover Katie. Oh. I readsome of those tweets. Look at me

(24:56):
see talking about like we had conversation. Yeah, yeah, So this is
her Twitter feed. Um and asyou can see, a lot of it
is you know, her videos andposts like that. Um. But there

(25:17):
was a post that caught my eyethat said thank you to all the creators
both big and small, that havereached out to offer me support over the
past several months. I know it'shard to stick by someone under attack,
but there are amazing creators out therethat have been so amazing to me,
and I am so grateful. Don'tlose hope. Um. I think that

(25:37):
was so that's what caught my attention. And then I started flipping through and
I saw this and Katie Joy sharedat drama Esqum they are I believe they
are a law channel. I'm notpositive. Um, but she said this
whole thread. So I'm gonna readthis and I think this is important,

(26:00):
and then we really will explain whathappens. And then I'm going to tell
you why anyone who thinks that thisis even slightly okay should be buried under
a fucking prison. As you willknow if you follow me. I stopped
covering the WACB case a while ago. Publicly, I said it was because

(26:23):
I couldn't really get videos out ina timely fashion, but privately it was
because I didn't like the direction thecoverage was going, which was, oh
my god, she's an idiot,her lawyer's an idiot salty, which,
for those of you who don't know, is Tatsi Westbrook's lawyer is the best.

(26:45):
Her lawyer is a laughing stock.Is in for a thrashing of a
lifetime, her lawyer should be disbarred, etc. I didn't see that reflected
in the pleadings, which made methink something was wrong with me. But
also I was a bit concerned thatheading into that territory of regularly publicly commenting

(27:08):
on another attorney's work repetitively was goingto to perhaps toe the line of professional
misconduct, as we have to showcourtesy and integrity in our dealings with other
states and lawyers. I'm not accusinganyone of misconduct. Blah blah blah.
It's it's very long, but basicallyshe is saying, you know that all

(27:37):
of this stuff, So there's theseThis is all about the Tati Westbrook stuff,
which I don't really follow. I'lladmit that I don't care. I
think Tati Westbrook is a fucking pettybetty for even attempting to see Gady Joy
like, you have millions of dollars, go away, your career's over with,
and you did it to yourself.Fuck off. It didn't exactly didn't

(27:59):
that get this missed though, Itjust got dismissed. Okay, Yeah,
which is huge because if you wereto go onto YouTube and you were to
watch videos by Emily D. Baker, who is a lawyer. I know
she's legally a lawyer, but she'sikey. Oh really, I kind of

(28:21):
like her. I mean again,I only knew of her because of all
the tags that we got the lasttime we even mentioned Katie in there.
But yeah, I I not theKatie stuff that she has covered because obviously
I just I just don't care.I think it's ridiculous all the time and

(28:44):
energy that people including us have putinto going back and forth about this.
But I like some of the otherstuff she does. I don't. I
think she probably got caught up intothe hooplaw is that still where people use
about, Like like she kind ofgot sucked into all that drama, all
that excitement around and with all thepeople that don't like Katie. I mean

(29:11):
it's it's a good way to buildyour channel and boost yourself up is to
cover that. Like she gave thepeople what they wanted, So I can't
thought her for that. But youknow, Katie's a lightning rod no matter
how you look at it, forher or against her, that bitch is
absolutely a lightning rod. She is, and I still don't get it.

(29:32):
Like, listen, people, I'mgonna say it again. You want somebody
to be pissed off about, golisten to the very first season of the
Ever Evolving Truth podcast. You wantto trash someone, you want to attack
someone, go listen to that.Okay, that is someone who deserves your
attention. This woman does not.And here's where I get mad. And

(29:55):
when I say mad, I don'tmean man, I mean fucking infuriated.
Oh yeah. I want to beclear about one thing. This is Katie
posting. I want to be clearabout one thing that people seem confused about.
I do not know Natalie. Ihave never spoken to her on any
media outside of a single message exchangeon Instagram when the attacks began. We

(30:18):
have forwarded everything to the FBI.I have not disclosed the amount of horrific
threats I have been sent since allthis started. I'm sorry, nor have
I disclosed what is happening in theinvestigation. I don't know who is hacking,
but I know with certainty it wasnever me, and Natalie lied about

(30:41):
her relationship with me. So Natalieis somebody that testified like went to Saltee
and claims that she was friends withher. Now I'm looking for these posts
and I don't know why I can'tsee them right now. Oh here we
go. I found it for thelast time. To anyone that needs to

(31:03):
hear this, I am not undercriminal investigation by the FBI. I am
not facing any charges, and Iam not going to jail for anything.
This is a false narrative that needsto stop. Thank you. So long
story short, and I'm sure we'regoing to catch shit because I'm not pulling
everything up right now. And ifI feel like it, I can upload

(31:23):
the screenshots of her Twitter to thisvideo, but I probably won't feel like
it, so fuck off. Istop posts that. And with hardcore evidence
of people calling cps and making baselessclaims on Katie, the cops showed up.

(31:45):
They claimed it was because her sonwas not going to school. Her
sysmetically fragile, which is public knowledge. So if she is choosing to homeschool,
that's her fucking choice. It's covidit. I don't want to send
my kids back to school on Monday. I don't have choice. I'm going
to my kids aren't medically fragile.But that's also not the fucking point.

(32:09):
The point is this. You aredisgusting, You are repulsive, You are
reprehensible, and I really hope youget charged for this because it should be
a crime. Using someone's children toget to the adult is the most disgusting

(32:32):
thing I have ever been through inmy life. And yes I have been
through it. I've been through itfor the past fucking year because some petty,
immature cuntbag decided it would be reallyfun to pick up the phone more
than once and call CPS on mewhen she has never met my children,

(32:52):
she has never met me, shehas been stepped into my home, and
she she basically turned my life intoa tornado. Because there were so many
calls that there was a point whereI was like, just fucking do look,
just investigate, Just fucking investigate me, because I'm tired of this shit

(33:14):
and my kids had to go throughit. And my kids have each other
and they have me. So itwasn't horrible and it's over, um,
it's close. It was horrible.It was horrible, It was stressful,
It was embarrassing on a level thatyou would not even begin to understand,

(33:42):
Like you can't, Like you guyswere there for the whole thing. You
you witnessed it, you watched it. You were there for me. When
I needed you. But you haveno idea what that's like until you actually
have to live it. And whenI saw that, I was infuriated for
Katie because whoever this twat is thathas nothing fucking better to do than to

(34:05):
stir a fucking pot like that.Oh, I'm worried about the children.
I'm a mandated reporter. If youwere really a mandated reporter, you would
know that picking up the phone andmaking baseless CPS calls is a fucking crime.
It's a very hard crime to proofbecause unless repetitive, unless it's repetitive,

(34:29):
And yeah, I did just saythat, unless it's repetitive, So
if it's repetitive, you can findout who it is. Just if you're
listening, just know that I knowthat, we know. I know that
we know, and like I amyour man, your careers and so are
you. Yeah, but like whenI saw Katie was like my son was

(34:52):
traumatized. I've I fell the piecesAnd if you don't know, we had
to take an episode down where Italked about what happened that day when it
was still an open wound and raw. Maybe that'll go back up some day.
Maybe we could put some of iton YouTube, just that part.

(35:14):
But luckily, when they showed upat my door, my children were in
school, and whoever made the reportclaim that my children were not in school,
it turned out that I guess Vaughanwas Katie's son was not in school,
I think, and I'm not evensure about that. Again, I
don't have my bass right. Maybethey came in in the afternoon, I

(35:37):
don't know, but he was thereand he witnessed it, and I cannot
imagine I was able to sit mychildren down and have a discussion with them
and explain to my children what washappening. She didn't have that opportunity.

(35:58):
She never had that opportunity. Shenever had the opportunity to, you know,
to know it was coming. Iknew it was coming. I was
I, you know, let themin with open arms whatever. Um.
But and I'm sure she did too, because she has nothing to hide.

(36:19):
She has medical professionals in her houseday in and day out, because her
son is medically fragile. And you'regoing to waste the time. That time
that it took for the police andthat CPS worker to go through that house
was time that could have been spentsaving the life of another child. I
was golfs very valuable resources and valuabletime. These pace workers that do this,

(36:47):
they do it. They're they're notgetting paid millions of dollars to do
this, They're they're not decent wagesexactly, and they're doing it because it's
they love it and they like helpingpeople, and they believe in what they're
doing. And after so many yearsthey get jaded because there are so many
baseless fucking calls like this. Andfor you to sit on the internet and

(37:10):
decide that you don't like Katie Joy, or you don't like me, or
you don't like Robin, or youdon't like Wag so you're gonna pick up
the phone and call CPS fuck you. And again this is a whole other
episode. But they need to do, like, you know, systems like
this need to catch up with withtechnology, Like if people are able to

(37:37):
do this, this trolling and swatting, like this kind of stuff is just
not fucking okay. And and Ireally really hope Katie knows who did it.
It looks like they did. Itlooks like them the screenshots I took,
actually I have it right here.It is a warrior behind the board.

(38:01):
Everybody has balls larger than life whenthey're not in front of the person,
like when you went through it,Leah, same thing. Yeah,
you got the phone call, theycame into your house. They saw this.
Now he is experiencing it. Butfor what her life is public?
Every does is public? Yeah,everything she does. So here is a

(38:21):
conversation. So Lizzie with two pigsby her name, really cute sweetie,
she is very appropriate. It's it'swickup b which is her her Twitter name.
Five second Google and I found therules. But a journalist like her
camp because she knows everything. Thend at Nickel d d e U said,

(38:46):
I called regarding her getting paid forwatching her child. The government is
aware of her making a lot ofmoney on her channel, which, by
the way, all of these I'msorry, which all of these accounts are
now private? Oh are they?They weren't? Now they're all private.

(39:07):
No, don't vote me on that, Come at me. But a majority
of them were public because they're yeah, hater channels. I don't know what
what do people call them? Haterid? I call them caters? They hate
Katie so much? Um And thenanother one says, yet this state also

(39:28):
provides a nurse. How does thatwork? Um, Amber Delicious, wash
your hair, Sweetie. Sounds likefraud. Um. And then another person
she clearly isn't the one caring forher kid. If anything, Toad instead
of Todd is but they still havenurses come out to shaking my head.

(39:52):
How fucking dare you, each andevery one of you, How fucking dare
you? I want to see youwake up every single fucking morning and care
for a child the way that Katiedoes. Her son is on a feeding
tube at seven years old. Shehas to do that every day, She

(40:13):
has to worry about health problems andbrain problems. And then you're gonna do
this kind of ship. They havea living nurse. Do you know how
hard that is to get for achild? And for you to sounds like
fraud to me? Fuck you twiceon Sunday. You are icky, You
are gross, and I hope you'reprosecuted for this. That's my two cents.

(40:37):
Anybody else have anything else? Yeah? I mean I just want to
add that. Can we just makea rule not to talk about children like
Katie, don't talk about kids?Other people want to talk about kids.
We did the one episode on I'mnot going to say her her name,
but the little girl with her father'sname is Michael Long. We did that,

(40:58):
and then immediately after I was like, I don't want to do anything
like this again. I didn't feelright. It didn't sit right with us,
and we made the conscious decision thatwe wouldn't talk about it in depth
like we did, Like, canwe just stop talking about people's kids?
Because this is real? Hold on, this is real life. Like it's
not like just somebody like a CPSworker showed up where they're nice and welcoming

(41:22):
and they're gonna talk to the kidlike I'm sorry, a CoP's gonna show
up like that. I can't evenimagine how traumatizing it's. Like if you
get pulled over, even if you'vedone nothing wrong, you're like, okay,
maybe I was speeding. Tell methat you don't get a little fearful,
like, oh my god, likewhat if something's wrong? Like what
if something's wrong with my car?Am I gonna get a ticket? Am
I gonna get rested? All thesecrazy things? But like, why can't

(41:45):
we just stop talking about people's kids? Katie stop, We'll stop you stop.
Everyone just stopped talking about people's childrenbecause they aren't at an age where
they can defend themselves and everything weand that's a collect If we put out
there, it's gonna be out therefor these these children to see when they

(42:06):
grow up. Like just and youon the show, we could you could
say all day that you know,will you talk about your kids? Yeah,
there are kids. It is ourrights and our decision to talk about
our kids. But if I seeyou talk about my kid on the internet,
I'm coming for you hard. Hard. It is not the same thing.

(42:31):
It is not the same thing.And if you use the system to
try and hurt someone through their child, I want you to sit there and
think for one second what that's doing. Just think about it. It's disgusting.
Robin, what were you going tosay? I was gonna say the

(42:52):
problem is, and it was wordedso much better before I try to cut
wags off, the problem is you'renot at that child, you're man at
the person. So why throw thatchild under the bus. What has that
child done to you? We couldtalk shit on each other's kids, Like
I just said, I had tobeat Rocco's ass before it's a break because
he was trying to row them up. But I'm not going to talk shoot

(43:15):
on somebody else's kid that I've nevermet, that is not relevant to any
situation. And I'm not going touse that child to hurt an adult.
No not. And I've never usedmy children to hurt their father. That's
the type of person I am.If that's the type of person that you
are, fuck you, Like Leahsaid twice on the day, you are

(43:36):
a piece of fucking shit, andyou're gonna get what's coming to you.
Because karma always comes back around.Yeah, it does. It's always,
And I hope this time the karmais criminal. Yeah. I hope the
cops knock on their door. Ido because this is harassment on a level
that and it is illegal to makea false CPS claim. It is absolutely

(44:02):
illegal. I at least I knowit is in the state of Pennsylvania.
And when it becomes repetitive, that'sa fucking problem. It's a femty when
it becomes repetitive. Did you hear, um? Where's the clipboards at aar
I'm clicking somewhere, um. Andit takes time and it takes money,
but you can find out. SoKatie, I hope you're taking time and

(44:24):
money to find out exactly who's makingthese calls, because you deserve to know,
and they deserve to be prosecuted tothe hyans and publicly fucking shamed.
And you yeah, yeah, we'regonna put pictures and names up on our
YouTube. Go ahead, strike me, fuck off. We don't care.

(44:45):
We're not Yeah, yeah, we'rebarely podcasters, like sitting sitting in an
alley ready to cut somebody when theywalk down so I don't come in to
her. I got yeah, whatdid what did you say? Like eighties
graffiti wall? Yeah, my eightiesgraffiti wall behind me. Um. Also,

(45:07):
I just want to point out,because you know, we like to
educate people in influencers and social mediacreators and content creators as a whole,
there's a thing that you can schedulepost, So I could be shitting on
the toilet right now and schedule apost where I look absolutely gorgeous. Um.

(45:30):
It's it's a feature that you cando that. So there was a
guess a lot of like bullshit aboutKatie posting articles about you know, clips
about the Fundies and all of that, the duggers while all this was going
on, and I'm like, youreally are picking at every little thing,
which scheduled that she probably has anentire week's worth of stuff scheduled to go

(45:53):
out because we do the same thing. So yeah, we're way smaller like
this being figured out, Like she'sgot she's she's making bank, and she
should start a school like how toactually do this correctly for us, like
I would follow it. I wouldgo to those classes. Well, maybe

(46:15):
I'm followers and fans can help getthere. Maybe maybe you guys can.
I don't know. And look,I'm not trying to be an asshole here.
I'm not. I am specifically talkingto If you don't like Katie,
that's fine, Blags isn't a hugefan of her. Um, That's not

(46:36):
what I'm saying here. I'm sayingthere are fucking lines that cannot be crossed.
This is that fucking line. Andto me, it's like it's like
a Trump supporter. It's like aTrump supporter before the storming of the Capitol
Building was just the Trump supporter andsome were good and some were bad.
But if you still support Trump afterthe arming of the Capitol Building, in

(47:00):
my eyes, you're ikey. Samething goes for this. If you're still
gonna say that Katie is in thewrong, always in the wrong, does
and deserves everything she gets. Whensomebody does something like this, you're just
as bad as somebody who made thefucking call. That's what I'm saying,
So fuck you. And on thatnote, we are going to take a

(47:23):
break and come back with our endingsegments. Welcome back to Mom's and Mayhem.
So I know a lot of ourlisteners are dual listeners and they listen
to Pooki in Paradise, But likeI said, we've record the day after
Pip, so this is airing onMonday, but we're recording this on Tuesday

(47:45):
the sixteenth. Okay, So lastnight on Pooky in Paradise we discussed Trivia
Gate and the Friends trivia challenge andif we cheated or not? Now sure
you are you aware of what happened? Um? How much do you know
about this? Do you know aboutyour VA eight? No? Okay?

(48:08):
So what had happened? What Probin? We say? For me, what
ha happened was, well, whathappened was thank you. We Um had
this great idea because Robin had challengedJeff in our second episode ever, Um

(48:30):
of Moms and Mayhem to French trivia. Oh yes I did listen to that
episode. Yeah, okay, okay. So then we did the French trivia
and a year later, a yearlater, right almost to the day,
and Robin won. She beat Jeff. Jeff got a question wrong, mhmm,

(48:50):
gave him the answer. We evenyeah, we did your right.
We were like the answer and he'slooking at us, but you could yeah.
Now, now here's what happened.The questions that I had found for
this trivia contest, UM had theanswers with them, and there were one

(49:13):
hundred and fifty questions. Oh wow, that's well, rob And they were
going to be ten and they weregoing to be random, and I chose
them at random. Okay, Robindid see the list with the questions,
right, but she didn't know whatI was going to ask or when I
was going to ask them. Okay, And if Jeff is such a look,

(49:38):
if if I were to challenge,if somebody were to challenge me to
Game of Thrones trivia and they hadthe questions before me, I guarantee you
I could still beat them exactly.So I don't think what we did was
cheating. I think we just youknow, took advantage of all of the

(50:05):
assets at hand. That's how Ilook at it. We we studied and
Robin worked hard to beat Jeff atthe trivia game. How do you feel
about issues? Hm, I don'tknow. I don't know. I mean,
I disclaimer. I did not haveanything in front of me. They

(50:29):
were in my office at were Yeah, she did not have them in front
of and nothing in front of me, right right, right right. The
questions were what they were going tobe asked, but you still saw them.
Like in my mind, if Istill had seen them, to remember
a hundred plus questions and answers,that how hard that is? Like I'm

(50:50):
not in school, bitch, Thatshit's fucking hard. I can't write on
my hands, I don't. Imean, I have enough room to write
an encyclopedia when I'm looking body,but I couldn't. No, I get
that. So what happened was hegot a question wrong. It is that
simple. He was that he thinkshe's so good. I almost beat him

(51:14):
when in the imprompt you one onthe life, I almost beat him.
I got questions right that he didn't. So he thinks he's so good at
trivia. Oh if Jeff Burg Iknow everything about friends, not anymore about
everything at some point he's got toget off the couch, and right,
I think Robin, that is thequestion. Does Robin still get her roly

(51:38):
chair in the situation trees, whatdo you think? I think she should
still get her roly chair. Yeah, but I don't think that some type
of like a rematch or something isout of the question. I think there
should be a rematch. Yeah,I think. I think I think Robin
could still beat him. I doso too. And if I can't beat
him at the trivia, I wasfucking I hoops out on what was ass

(52:02):
that workagain? His decision on howthat happens exactly well, nurseries violence.
Of course, len I choose guys, Sarcy Lanster said this, she did.

(52:22):
I'm starting with respected a lot moreright, I choose violence. I
was so excited for that scene becauseit was like the big like build up
in all the previews, and thenit was like disappointing. Yeah, the
mountain just like part and then itjust walks away. It wasn't all that
great anyway. You know what it'stime for It's time for us to learn

(52:46):
about a stupid law. That's that'swhat time it is, Robin. It
is your turn or Buffalo Billy Jean, it is your turn to get all

(53:08):
right ready? And I picked thisbecause, um, it wasn't the first
one that came up, but it'sappropriate because we are a bunch of women,
so and I know we talked abouthaving our little compound and things like
that. So in Ka, morethan sixteen women cannot live together because it

(53:30):
constitutes excuse me, it constitutes abrothel. What how many people? No,
sixteen. If there's more than sixteenwomen, they cannot live in the
house, which creates problems for somesororities. And I wonder if if that

(53:52):
that there's a loophole for nuns.There has Today there were definitely more than
sixteen women living. More than sixteenwomen may not live together in the same
house because that constitutes brothel. SoI think that we're selective anyway, Like

(54:13):
we really don't like a lot ofpeople, and probably a lot of people
don't. So I think we're gonnabe okay. It's just when we have
our visitors, um, you know, and things like that. So we're
gonna have to be like Disney Worldand maybe issue passes so you visit can't
be a brothel. There's not sixteenwomen, I like, I would never

(54:34):
have Could you imagine all sixteen womenon the same fucking cycle? Oh my
god, no, I would jumpout of window. That's it. We
can't have any more. Just thefour of us, our little Mormon friend,
right and us, And that's it. Yeah, she's my little token

(54:54):
Mormon friend. I can't have anymore than that, because wags. Do
you still get to period if youdon't have your parts? No? No,
no period? A period? Idon't have a uterus or what would
you have ovaries? Yeah? ButI don't know your period? Is your
uterus shedding? Yeah? The uterinelining? Yeah? And um, I

(55:19):
don't I don't get a period,So we don't have to worry about that.
Maybe it's just you and major resortour period sisters. Why are we
talking about this because we're gonna livetogether and we can't have a brothel and
we don't want to all be fuckinghormonal raging at the time. So what

(55:40):
was no more than sixteen women ina house or the brothel? So,
and I'm going to have an umquestion on Yaho answers. Why is that
a low? I want to knowwhy it's a lot? Why didn't you
just feel a little. That's whathe needs to ask. Why the Golden

(56:04):
and Me Too movement there after theme Too movement? I think that that's
sexist, and I think that lawneeds to go away, and I think
Mounts needs to go onto Yahoo Answersand ask that question. That's what I
think. I also think that it'stime for a um. Why would you
say that it is? And thisis inspired by Leah. Oh and it's

(56:37):
gonna sound really funny when I saywhat the saying is because that's not what
was inspired by Leah. Okay,okay, it's actually not inspired by Leiah.
It's just something Lea who says allthe time. Oh, okay,
did you see So the saying isa camel cannot see its own hump.

(56:58):
I have never said that. Okay, So it's this wet it kett.
Yeah, so it's not the saying. Okay, that's the saying an old
um. An old saying is thatthis is the equivalent of a pot calling

(57:20):
a kettle black. In other words, a hypocritical person. Leah says pot
calling kettle black all the time,but she says it backwards. I see,
like, hi, kettle, thisis pot. I'm black. You're
black. But that's what she said. It's all this like it's it's being

(57:42):
on three shows with Jeff and hearinghim say weird shit all the time.
It's like starting to rub off onher. But that's who she said.
She goes, Hi, um,I'm kettle your pot like hot like something
like that, just backwards, Hikettle, I'm you're black. Yeah,

(58:04):
so yeah they're um uh so againthis sentence or the word is a camel
cannot see its own hump? Ummine is? I will tell you if
your camel is showing on your ladyhumps, because a camel cannot see its
own homp. I was gonna fuckingthing, which is not like the meaning

(58:25):
of the word or any earth.I um my humps, my humps,
my lovely single camp humps. That'sall I have, my single camel because
I can't see them because of myfoopa. Yeah yeah, I don't know

(58:45):
what it looks like. I'd probablyhave the biggest camel toe on earth,
but I can't see past my stomachor my kid's got a moose knuckle.
I can't got a pair of acamp cannot see it? Don't help?
Okay, um, oh my god, this is gonna be really mean.

(59:08):
So I still have the tiny condomfor the fingers. So I'm sorry,
Mounts A Campbell couldnot see it,don't at all, just like Mounts can't
see its home Peness forever else.Oh okay, Okay, I don't.

(59:36):
I think we've may ever done thisone. Um. It's my term for
the would you rather? And Ithink I can't remember if we've done it
or not um because it's right aroundthe time travel question. But I think
this is I think I think thisis a good one. Okay, are

(01:00:00):
you ready? Yes? Okay?Would you rather be compelled to high five
everyone you meet? Or be compelledto give wedgies to anyone wearing a green
shirt? I would give wedgies toeveryone in green shirt, everyone you meet,

(01:00:20):
everybody, everyone you see, likeyou just you're just absolutely high five
every single person, absolutely because youknow what I can do with your hand
pocket that's top down low, that'slike the weirdest correlation everything, like,
hey, hey guys, let medig in your back pocket. I would

(01:00:43):
high five everyone and then give thema wedgie with the high tel looking that
would mean my thing. I wouldnot my thing. I would I would
give everyone in every shirt a wedgie. That's that would be my answer.
I would just want to give peoplewedgies. Funny, Oh, like I
just I don't want to touch anybody'spants or sorry, I'm not gonna touch

(01:01:08):
abody's hand though, because of COVID, Like I don't want to touch you.
I'm thinking what COVID or an STD. Well, I'm I'm thinking,
like every hand you high five hashad a dick in it, so that's
also kind of gross. But Iwould rather do that than like hear your
underwear rip. Well, not everyhands had a dick in it. Yeah,

(01:01:31):
my hand hasn't had a dick init. I was like, I
can't tell you the last time Ihad my hand on a dick, A
dick, A round dick, same, a rounded dick, I get,
But nope, can't tell you lasttime I was near a man either.
But I've given a wedge, butI have given ag. I give wedges

(01:01:54):
to myself. My pants up overthis camel hop. All right, that's
our shows, our show, ladiesand gentlemen. Um, it's a short
one, but it was a goodone. I hope you enjoyed it.
Than God, we finally did somethingon time, and we don't even have
a meeting every other night that everyother week that we record, we usually

(01:02:16):
have an executive meeting, and it'snot this week. So it's like,
I know, I know, nextweek we'll have a meeting and we'll be
on here till eleven thirty. Youknow, it will be recording till eleven
thirty. Um, lax, whatdo we have coming up on the other
shows? P I P. Wehave an Amish man and a sugar daddy.

(01:02:40):
Um in the pipeline. The sugardaddy is not interested in any of
us. I did ask, noteven SHARISI pooh. She's young younger,
Yeah, but she's not young enough. She's over the age of twenty five.
But he's very discreet. He doesn'twant like he's going to come into
sky if he gets on, Likehe does want people to know who he

(01:03:02):
is. Yeah, he doesn't.But you know what, like I would,
I would find a sugar mama,but that's another day. Another dollar.
Um. We have an Amish mancoming on from Lancaster County. Uh.
And then teat we have a bunchof really cool topics and we're actually

(01:03:23):
looking for people who might be interestedin talking about those topics or if there's
something you guys really want to talkabout or listen to um, do that,
and then on Tuesday will be thisteat trial of Steve Bannon, and
some of us are discovering a lotmore about him than we had initially thought.

(01:03:47):
And I think there was a conversationin our teat chat um that someone
thought he's not really that bad ofa guy, So that's going to be
an interesting conversation. I just watchedThe Brink with him, and I cannot
wait for the panel member who saidthat to watch The Brink because I want

(01:04:13):
to see if he feels differently becauseI did, yeah, really differently,
because in the beginning I felt alot of sympathy. But it was so
good. You have to watch TheBrink. But that'll be tomorrow, right,
That airs tomorrow. Yep, thatairs tomorrow. And we're still trying
to schedule the women of white Horsebetween were actually kids. We may have

(01:04:36):
to add some more women, ormaybe we will just start our own brothel,
and then once we do that,we will record. But I'm excited
for that. I'm excited. It'sgoing to be like a three part kind
of crossover. So we'll be interestingfor each other's audience to hear the different
shows and hear the personalities on thedifferent shows. So I'm very excited for

(01:04:58):
that. So yeah, lots ofgood things, all right. So make
sure you're listening to all of thatstuff. Make sure you're listening to the
Existential Ginger podcast. I produced anepisode recently with a x Mormon couple who

(01:05:19):
them born a man is transitioning,And it was one of the most beautiful
experiences to be a fly on thewall in that conversation. You do not
want to miss that. Um that. That was such a great episode.
I cannot wait to hear it.So and everything they put out Sary Splits

(01:05:42):
Out is just so great. Solisten to that, listen to two Rows,
listen to Leaders by Design, FireMerch, I'm wearing it now,
and other than that, enjoy therest of your week. By Little Deves,
I choose violence. I choose Ichoose violence. Oh my God,

(01:06:03):
wis with you? You get onthe dance to the Tall head down.
Let's have some fun. Hey,you get on the bottle man, love

(01:06:24):
you love your shot Tonight, let'shave some fun.
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