Money and the Mind
Welcome to Money and the Mind! On this show, we explore personal finance, psychology, and provide resources to help on your financial journey. Hosted by Andy, a mental health therapist, and Aaron, an accountant.
Episodes
Well…it’s here. Our last episode. We so appreciate our listeners and guests and couldn’t have kept the show going without you all!
Audio outro: Earnest Jackson, Sugar Daddy and the Gumbo Roux, “Inflation”
Audio outro: Never half-ass two things
Links:
Welcome to Group Therapy podcast
Money and the Mind website
Money and the Mind playlist
Intro music by David von Kampen
Andy and Aaron discuss recent economic conditions that might give rise to financial stress, including interest rates, inflation, and markets going down. Andy also walks through some financial therapy that’s been helpful to clients.
Audio outro: Fall Out Boy, “Sugar, We’re Goin Down”
Intro music by David von Kampen
Andy is on his own this week to share general therapeutic insights that his clients have found helpful. Topics include staying present, guided imagery, structuring time, writing a letter and destroying it, listing values, self-appreciation, vulnerability with money, reviewing expectations, internal validation, breathing, ups and downs of markets as a mental health analogy, thinking vs. knowing, boundaries, and more!
Andy and Aaron discuss a listener's email about Dave Ramsey, when criticism becomes shame, and in the back half of the episode tackle the topic of personal responsibility and how to form meaningful connections.
Audio outro: Dave Matthews Band, “Two Step”
Links:
Brene Brown
Why Checklist-Style Financial Planning Works: What Advisors Can Learn From Dave Ramsey's Baby Steps
Millennial Mental Health Channel: Two Men...
Andy and Aaron discuss “good” and “bad” emotions, avoidance, “God has a plan,” toxic positivity and money beliefs, a false sense of self, the importance of action, radical acceptance, Ted Lasso’s toxic positivity, and more.
Audio outro: Britney Spears, “Toxic”
Links:
The Dangers of Toxic Positivity (And How to Avoid It) | Jordan Harbinger
Toxic Positivity: Keeping It Real in a World Obsessed with Being Happy by Whitney Goodma...
Andy and Aaron are back (we apologize for the lack of shows of late!). We discuss Dave Ramsey, student loan relief, how often finances come up in Andy’s therapy sessions, what does success mean to you?, listening to your body, what we’ve been spending money and time on lately, and more!
Audio outro: Maggie Rogers, “Symphony”
Links:
The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma
You should always keep...
We took a summer break, but we’re back with psychologist and sleep expert Dr. Kristen Casey! We discuss anxiety's impact on sleep, reframing, sleepiness vs. tiredness, ways to help fall asleep, sleep debt, Dr. Casey’s money stories, whether jet skis can cure depression, what makes you amazing, dreams, why people might wake up in the middle of the night and not fall back asleep, and more!
(Note: Multiple instances of language th...
Dr. Brad Klontz joins the show to discuss misinformation around money and mental health, the near impossibility of successful day trading, cryptocurrency, how the wealthy approach investing, harmful money advice on social media, the best way to motivate people to save, and more!
Audio outro: The Black Keys, “For the Love of Money”
Intro music by David von Kampen
Dave Hoppen is the all-time leading scorer for the Nebraska Cornhuskers men’s basketball program and played six seasons in the NBA. For the past 26 years, Dave has managed client investment portfolios in his hometown of Omaha. We discuss his experience as a professional athlete, receiving large checks, money behaviors of fellow players, starting an investment management business, playing on a team with Charles Barkley, and more!
Friend of the show Terp re-joins Andy and Aaron to discuss cryptocurrency as an inflationary hedge, which stage we’re (potentially) in of the crypto cycle, smart contracts, Terp’s crypto mining, the impact on electricity/power sources, proof of work vs. proof of stake, talking to (some) farmers about crypto, and more! PLEASE NOTE: Terp doesn't think all farmers are "nutcases"!
Audio outro: Band of Horses, “Warning Sig...
Andy and Aaron (Ron) discuss Aaron’s cryptocurrency adventure, Andy’s use of stock market charts in therapy sessions, mental accounting, sports betting, and more.
Audio outro: Kenny Rogers, “The Gambler”
Links:
Tim Ferris interview with Morgan Housel
The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel
Content warning: Addiction, drugs, and suicidal thoughts mentioned throughout.
Our friend Nick joins the show to share his story of addiction, suicidal thoughts, and insomnia - to let others with similar struggles know that you are not alone.
If you need help, please call a suicide hotline. In the U.S., call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 any time of day — press "1" to reach the Veterans Crisis L...
Attorney Josiah Shanks joins Andy and Aaron to discuss the basics of wills and estate plans, holographic wills, why people avoid creating a will, the tendency for conflict over assets, and more.
Andy and Aaron discuss the basics of bipolar disorder by way of a real situation, money beliefs (scripts), how money scripts don’t always align with financial behavior, and ways to help.
Audio outro: Nirvana, “Lithium”
Links:
Millennial Mental Health Channel podcast: Bipolar disorder
Klontz Money Script Inventory
Ep15: Managing Impulsivity with Dr. Justin Romano
Ep8: Satisfying Spending
Note: This episode mentions abuse throughout.
Kelly (IG: @fireroundtheworld) joins Andy and Aaron to discuss her experience with financial abuse, how some faith traditions enable abusive marriages/relationships, gaslighting, how to identify signs of abuse and red flags, how to help, and more.
Links:
Instagram: fireroundtheworld
Ep37 with Kelly & Jeff
Wilderness to WILD
Kelly's recommendations:
Healing from Hid...
Andy and Aaron reflect on 2021, discussing our amazing guests, what we learned, starting a therapy practice, the guilt of a car purchase, our favorite books/games/movies/shows, and more.
Audio outro: Jungle, “Busy Earnin’”
Andy and Aaron are joined by Nathan Astle (Certified Financial Therapist) to discuss how to become a financial therapist, Nate’s formative money experiences, shame, financial infidelity, couples therapy (“It’s not about the dish”), “shame is the enemy of change,” and more.
Audio outro: Information Society, “What’s on Your Mind (Pure Energy)”
Links:
Nathan Astle, MS, LMFT, CFT-I™ - Founder - Relational Money
Relational Money
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Andy and Aaron discuss the Netflix hit show by looking at the psychology behind the characters’ money-related decisions, blood money, desperation, the problematic “just get a job” belief, homelessness, and more. Spoilers abound!
Links:
Last Week Tonight: Homelessness (crude humor alert)
Five Tropes Local TV News Uses to Dehumanize Homeless People
Andy and Aaron are joined by Tim Malm to discuss his experience with payday lending, shame, Disneyworld vs. deck repairs, “as soon as you run out of money, everything’s a crisis,” being comfortable with not knowing something, the power of empathy, and more.
Audio outro: The White Stripes, “Bone Broke”
Links:
“Are We Sure This is Good?” podcast
How Do I Get out of Payday Loan Debt?
Nebraska becomes the latest state to cap ...
Andy and Aaron discuss the fear of opening up one’s own practice, good networking vs. not-good networking, hidden contracts, the financial benefit of friends, Ted Lasso, and more.
Note: A few instances of language in the back half of this episode. Also, my microphone must not have been working correctly, so apologies for low sound quality.
Audio outro: Led Zeppelin, “Friends”
Links:
“Are We Sure This is Good?” podcast
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