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July 30, 2025 47 mins

In this very special episode of the Economy Made Simple, Shamubeel Eaqub sits down with Sir Ashley Bloomfield, New Zealand’s former Director-General of Health, to talk about what we’ve learned from the COVID-19 pandemic - and how those lessons could help shape our collective future.

This thoughtful conversation touches on the complex intersection between public health, the economy, leadership and trust. It’s an honest but also hopeful discussion that sheds light on what it takes to lead through uncertainty - and how we might rebuild a more resilient, empathetic society.

This episode covers:

  • Sir Ashley's background, what led him to his Director-General role and where he's gone since
  • What New Zealand did well (AND not so well) during the COVID-19 pandemic
  • The link between public health and a strong economy
  • How leadership, communication and trust matter in moments of crisis
  • Lessons from the lockdowns that still apply today, from wellbeing to social cohesion
  • Sir Ashley’s reflections on personal resilience and what drives him today

Whether you're interested in leadership, public policy or simply navigating uncertain times, this episode offers a timely perspective on what it takes to foster resilience — in ourselves, our communities, and our economy.

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