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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Well, hey there, folks. Just like how only you can
prevent forest fires, only you can prepare yourself for what's
ahead on this podcast. But before we hike into the
woods of horror films and all the terrifying tales they tell,
you should know that on this show we'll be taking
a deep dive into some of your favorite scary movies.
But be warned there will be spoilers hidden behind every
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tree stump. So if you haven't seen the movie we're
talking about, well you should probably circle on back to
the trailhead partner. Not only that, but things can get
a little let's say explicit. Around here. You'll hear strong
language and those opinions of ours, Oh, they can be
as sharp as.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
A bear's fangs.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
So remember, only you can decide if you're ready for
the journey ahead. So stick around if you're prepared to
face all those spoilers and listen to all that strong
language and entertain some seriously bold takes.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Otherwise, tread lightly.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Birds are not aggressive creatures, miss they bring beauty.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Into the world.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
It is mankind rather who insists up in making it
difficult for life to exist upon this planet. Now, if
it were not for then you.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Don't seem to understand this, young lady said, there was
an attack.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
On the school.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Impossible to the end of the world.
Speaker 7 (01:26):
What actually happened at the school?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
A bunch of crows attack the school kids.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
It's the end of the world.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Thus set the lard garden to the mountains, the hills,
and the rivers in the valleys. Behold, I even I
shall bring a sourd upon you, and I will devastate
your high paces.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
E seki chapter.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Go unto them that rise up early in the morning,
that they may follow a strong drink, I say, Chapter five.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yes, Hello, Hello, and welcome to season six of Monster Madness.
If you're a longtime listener, thank you for patiently waiting
for our glorious return. And if this is your first
time listening, welcome. There's a lot of newness to this
show this season. But before we get into all of that, Hubbub,
I would like to introduce my rider Die co host,
(02:16):
the One, the Only Maddy Matt met Hey, buddy, ah,
this is an auditory podcast. Nobody can see what you're doing.
He's throwing gang signs right now.
Speaker 8 (02:29):
It wasn't a gang sign. It was a double crossed
on peace lean back.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That could be gang in Wisconsin.
Speaker 8 (02:33):
I don't know, yeah, because you know, gang affiliation runs
rampant here.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Listen, I know someone who dated a gang member in Indiana.
Speaker 8 (02:42):
I'm not saying that they don't exist. I just don't
think they are as you might believe.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's true, that's true. They're not the crips or the Bloods.
They're just the Kurds.
Speaker 8 (02:53):
Had to wash my hair.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah. So Season six of Monster Madness is called When
Animals Attack, and we will be covering all sorts of
films where animals ravage and hunt humans. This season has
been in the making even before we recorded the very
first episode of Monster Madness, which I actually don't think
Matt knows.
Speaker 8 (03:12):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I have always wanted him to watch one of my
favorite animal attack movies. But then the idea, as all
of my ideas tend.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
To spiral, it became how can.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I get Matt to watch an array of movies that
I love that he would not typically watch, and he
has no choice. And here we are, many years later,
many episodes later, and in fact, this is actually our
ninety ninth episode, and I am over the moon that
we are finally here.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
At this season, there's ever any concern as to how
much I hate my life. Eric's explanation of what she
does to me on a weekly basis, bi weekly basis
pretty much paint that picture.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
He's a sad, sad boy.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
I'm emotionally abused by my friend.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I don't think I emotionally abuse you. Sleep at night
telling myself that I don't emotionally abuse you. So so far,
if you are, if you're a returning listener, you could
see that Monster Madness has a new logo, new music,
a new listener advisory, new new new, all over this bitch.
But the deeper that we get into the show, you
(04:20):
will see that our format has changed a little bit too,
and we hope that you enjoy it. But before we
get into our first segment, a few plugs and you
all know what I'm gonna say. You can find Monster
Madness on all your favorite podcasting platforms, social media sites,
and things of that nature. Matt does stream video games
and I occasionally join him now. He also streams drum
sessions from time to time, so you could check that
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out on our Twitch channel and YouTube. We upload all
our gameplay to YouTube. Not so much the drums, drum
streams because you know, copyright face.
Speaker 8 (04:51):
A lot, Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Is it just? Is it Jeff Bezos fault? I mean,
what isn't At this point, I.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
Wasn't a say thanks a lot, Jimmy Carter, but he
just died.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
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All the links for the aforementioned things will be posted
in our show notes. So the last season we tacked
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on a new segment called does it Fuck at the
end of our show, But this season we are going
to do it right now. So welcome to does it Fuck?
Or if you.
Speaker 8 (05:36):
Prefer did it he be my gbs.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
If you prefer it friend of the show, Seth please
write in and others have our hebes being beat. I
be honest, I really do like that.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
I do like that fucking hilarious. It's just a mouthful.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You're not the one saying it well.
Speaker 8 (05:54):
When I say something that he beat my GB's, I
have to go he beat on my gbs.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You could just say I'm gibied.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
Definitely got me and the giblets.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
There you go. So, Matt, have your hebes been gibied recently?
Speaker 8 (06:06):
I mean it's the holiday season. My hebes have been
nothing but geb lately.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
That's true. That's fair.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
Partially your fault. Waffle cones, those are all gone. I
finished the hoppermin ones yesterday. Ntela made it about twenty
five minutes. I'm about three quarters of the way through
the stuffing chipped, the turkey stuffing biscuits. Most of the
sauces that made it are gone.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm so sad about the pickle one.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
Yeah, it turns out that the garlic one had also cracked.
I like ate a bunch and then realized that there
was a big hole in the bottle. I just need
to go to Target and get more. It's not the
end of the.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
World, but I know, I just don't know how close Target.
Speaker 8 (06:42):
Is to you. It's more that that time of year,
the target is in the mall like the one that's
closest to me, and our mall is the mall that
like people drive hours to go to which is odd
because there's nothing. Yeah, so it's going to Target is miserable.
Like when we had our wrestling gust back in December,
He's like, hey, can we stop at Target real quick?
And it was like a five minute walk from my
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car to get in type of parking lot. Shit. So
I'll just wait till after the holidays. They go. I
need to return a wig anyways, that's all right over there,
Heliss about one for Halloween. Never wore it. Amazon gives
you like a generous four month window to get it back.
So I have till February second, and I put in
the return on November first.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
There it is.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
Yeah, so there's that. Jabani makes these they're called creations,
the yogurt cups.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
So they have a tiarmasoo one and the cheesecake one.
Those he beat my Gibi's. The salted caramel was fine,
but it wasn't really that great. That And because the
holiday is.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Shrimped dip, oh yeah, I can't forget shrimp dip. You
talked about shrimp dip at the end of last season.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
I believe I don't have a shrimp dip tattoo. Because
I lo like looking at it.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I mean, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
How about your he bees? Well them ben g beat.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I'm actually going to find out if I can partake
in the shrimp dip very soon because I go see
an allergist.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
I thought you were just gonna eat one and roll
the dice and see what happened. That's what I was
hoping for.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I mean, I will just I just need a couple
of benadrol and I'll be fine.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
I'm gonna eats sleepy.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
What a day, What a horrible day that is. I
would love to eat like a fucking lobster roll and
just take a nap. That right. The last time I
had a lobster roll was like thirteen years ago, and
it was the best decision I had to take many
a Benda drol, But you know, issues it was fucking
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one thousand percent worth it because I ate it in
Montalk and that was just succulent, fucking lobster and tiny
little baby shrimps. Oh so good, so good that he beat.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
My GB's sounded like talking about it.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It might have a little bit, but you know, let
me just turn my camera off real quick.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Let's you know, food wise.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Nothing has he beat my GB's like crazily. I don't
have anything like really to report. I did make French
onion soup this week and that definitely he the GB's.
Speaker 8 (09:01):
It looks pretty good, right, didn't it.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I was really impressed with that picture. I was like, damn,
you look restaurant fucking quality. Let's see Christmas, I made
my Tuscan chicken. That was fire, you know what? Real quick?
Let me look at my door dash to see if
I I feel like I did. I feel like I
did try something recently that I was like, oh this, sorry, Seth,
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this fucked. You're just gonna have to deal with.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
It, sir, while you're looking for that. So Seth and
I talked about going to get those lightning round Mozzarell
sticks because they're in Milwaukee.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Do it?
Speaker 8 (09:34):
I mean, of course, we just need to find time
to go because I can't go without him, and I
feel like he is a human being, wouldn't eat an
entire one, so he needs backup. Oh yeah, it's probably
the size of my arm and I'm not scared. And
then I'll wonder why I can't shit right for three days?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Oh okay, So I did have something I don't think
I talked about this.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
Curious to see this transition here.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I'm sorry, I hear about your shit a lot more
than the audience.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
No, not wrong.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Anyway, I don't know if I talked about it on
last season, but I tried the Krabby Patty burger from Wendy's.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
I know we talked about it, but I don't remember
if you talked about it on the show.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, I don't remember. We talk a lot, but it
was pretty freaking good. It was pretty freaking good. But
here's the thing. Brooke got the Ghost Pepper Ranch chicken
sandwich there. Holy shit, seeing that actually reminding me I
might have to get that tomorrow for fuck It Friday.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
Because they just they just reopened all the Wendy's here,
like they closed down and now they're under new owners.
So I gotta take Judy to the groomer at noon.
So my whole thing was like, where can I stop
to eat? But it's not in Nina, So the world
is my oyster for the most part.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, I was actually cool.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Sorry, finish what you're saying. I just thought of something. Well,
because we're talking about chicken.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
No, I was like super impressed, and I mean, the
Krabby Patty was good. I got it because it was novelty,
and it's like, you know, I grew up, I watched SpongeBob.
It was enjoyable. YadA, YadA, YadA. And then she's like, oh,
do you want to try my sandwich? I was like, yeah, sure,
I wish I got that.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
Are you sure? It's Wendy's like, I understand the stupid question,
but I'm looking at their website that Krabby pattiesn't listened anymore.
But I didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, I don't know if it was like a limited thing,
but the Ghost Pepper Ranch chicken sandwich.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
So yesterday we went to a Korean barbecue place and oh,
like all of a sudden, there's two of them, and
for whatever reason, a wildly expensive but oh yeah they
did the ghost pepper chicken ranch. Yeah it's still there,
ghost peppers they had. So I like doing this thing
where I piss off my sweet, sweet dear friend Dylan,
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who doesn't listen to this. So I don't know it'd
be nice to them, But every time I go to
a Chinese buffet, I send them a picture of chicken nuggets.
That sushi place that I've always told you about has
really really good chicken nuggets. They're just like Costco massive bag.
However they make them. They're just really good. So they
had chicken nuggets on the menu with this Korean barbecue, like,
well fuck it, we're getting these things. And they were
(12:03):
the best. They were Korean fried chicken, breaded hunks of chicken.
They weren't like little chicken nuggets. And I literally waited
and told them when he goes, you gotta fucking stop
with the chicken nuggets at the Chinese buffet. It's like,
trust me, there's like theyre there's two. There's one that's
like a half mile from his house, and then there's
one in Appleton, and I said, arrust me. There was
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regular spicy and then Chinese five spice Korean fried chicken,
and I think we got like so you can get
them by like the one. So it's it's wild how
you order at this place. But it was like we
ended up getting like three or four different orders of
flavors of four each time because there was four bus.
It goes so fucking good.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I love that.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
If you've never been to a Korean barbecue, it is
an immense amount of verd for what you get.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Really, I have never.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
There was four of us and you have like one
literally like twelve inch pizza sized grill to grill everything on.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Oh yeah, that's right. You gotta cook everything out.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
Yeah. So it's like you have to play the game,
and it's like, all right, I did five minutes of work,
here's one piece of meat, and then like someone's grilling
while other people are eating. So it's it's like it's
I guess it's a fucking experience. But you also had
fifteen dollars old fashions, which seems goofy, but.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Was it good.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
I didn't get one. I went for lunchow work lunch,
and I'm not paying fifteen dollars for a lunch old
fashion lunch beers is a different story.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But I ever tell you about the time that Mikey
took me to a Chinese restaurant, like right, but after
I had turned twenty one, and I got a Long
Island iced tea at this place called the Imperial Inn
that's not in Chinatown anymore, which is really a big
bummer because I would have fucking taking you there in
a heartbeat, Like you walk in and you'd be like
I don't want to eat here, but then they take
you to like the nice room in the back, and
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the food is just ginormous portions out of this world
Chinese food. And I was like, you know, I think
I want to tried like an iced tea for lunch today,
and they like brought out that huge thing. I got
so lit. He was like, what the fuck is wrong
with you?
Speaker 8 (14:01):
I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
He's like, what I thought you got just like a
weird iced tea. I'm like, no, it's a Long Island.
I didn't realize there was that much liquor in it.
Speaker 8 (14:08):
Uh yeah, yeah, listen. I mean now you know because
you're forty seven, but Long Island iced teaser, just like
I remember, that was like the way to get fucked
up when we were kids. Like we used to go
to Applebee's when we were in our early twenties because
Schwoyan didn't have a whole lot and just drink Long
Islands and do half priced appetizers.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Man, there is nothing wrong with a good apple Bee's trip.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
I'm sure I told you this story, but it's been
a couple of years. The last time I went to
Applebee's was a couple years ago, we played in Shaboy,
and so I went to the one that we used
to hang out at and I went into the bathroom
and our guitar player was in there too, and I
was tip and I were fucking her own and I
go to Pete and I just look to my right
and there's the stall doors. The stall door's open, by
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the way, it's a jar. It's not all the way open,
but it's a jar. And I looked to the right
and there's just a dude on the toilet staring at
me and like the tim and I act is probably
not but anyway, so I go back to the table
and I tell everyone we're laughing at me. And then
Nathan's wife goes, oh, I just walked under the bathroom.
Oh my god. He went into the kitchen that was
the fucking chef was taking a shit and watching watching
me pee. And yeah. So I have not been back
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to Applebee since. Not that that is representation of all Applebe's.
I'm sure there are some quite fine establishments with her.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
But here's the thing. This is, this is how you
know that we have failed this as a society, is
that there's signs in restaurants that says employees must wash
hands before going back to work.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
So I try.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
When I go out to eat. There is a lot
of you know, suspension of disbelief that these people who
are touching my food are not complete in other scumbags.
I don't want to know if I've consumed something nefarious,
Like just let me live my life ignorantly.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
For what it's worth. When I worked in restaurants, I
always wash my hands. But I am weird and wash
my hands a lot at any time, like even when
I coke for myself at home. So that has nothing
to do with your cliss that's just me.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
No, that's fine. I wash my hands, you know, pretty frequently.
I don't count, but you.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
Know, no, I actually the list makes fun of me
because I'll cook with like if I'm doing a lot
of stuff with raw meat, I'll put gloves on.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
She makes fun of me. She's like it's kind of
a waste, and like, what's either that I wash my
hands every time I go do something else that isn't
touching raw meat.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, no, if I'm touching it, like unless it's like
chicken breasts, but like if I'm fucking around with like
ground ground beef or something like that, gloves are on.
I'm like, I don't want that shit under my nails
and stuff.
Speaker 8 (16:31):
Oh, I guess you have nails. I don't have that problem.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Well, no, I keep my nails really short. But like,
even like, I just don't like. I also don't really
like touching raw meat at all.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
I mean, I don't know necessarily blame you. I was
on your side.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Oh I thought you were going to make a comment. No,
I bet you don't, bitch. Sorry, I just did it
for you.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
Yeah, you came into the season with a chip on
your shoulder.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I just I feel aggressive. I'm excited.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
I just keep looking at fast food menus. I have
not eaten yet.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
So I really hope you get that ghost pepper sandwich
and it was just as good to you as it
was to me.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
Yeah. I don't see why I would, but as long
as I go that direction. One Friday night, when I
came home from wrestling, I was fucking starving because I
ate like a turkey a chicken wrap at like three
and then I got home like eleven, So I stopped
at the taco bell in between there in my house,
and I was just like eating like double deck or
tacos while driving. It was wildly unsafe. But but there's
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too much distance from the taco bell to home for
it to not suck. And I didn't want to deal
with reheating in the stuff in the oven at night.
So I'm still finding hunks of lettuce in places.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
She just pulled them out of your pockets right now.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's been weeks fucking shroudded lettuce.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Oh you know what else? Fucking he beat my Gebi's Aldi.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
I have to you know it's you do love Aldi?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I fucking love Aldi. They have a jalapeno ranch chip.
I would buy eighty five bags of those, dip it
in Mizzetti's dill dip.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
Or the.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
For the ranch one. Listen, man, I just said I'm
on your side. I know, I'm just amused to you
not being on my sigh.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
You're gonna wish that Judy kept me up all night
puking more often, aren't you? No?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Never, I would never wish that hell upon you because
I dealt with Here's the thing, so news flash for
the listeners. Uh, for Christmas, I got my daughter's.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Kittens bushy door dolls.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
We already had our cat, Jasper, who's an angel baby,
perfect little sweet boy who does nothing wrong and smells
like sugar cookies. I don't know how, but he does.
I really wish I could could explain it. He does,
but his breath smells like fucking trash, but he smells great,
like when I hug him and like nuzzle with him,
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smells great. So me and Brooke around about it was
a couple of days before Christmas and we had to
go to the pet store to get something for him,
and we heard like a bunch of like hubbub and
we walked over to the cat section like to look
to see if they had any kittens or anything, and
there was a huge sign that sent you know, cat
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event today at twelve. It was like nine o'clock when
we were in there because I get my shit done
early because I don't like people. And I was like, well,
if you want, we can come back in a couple
hours and just see. Because we've been talking about getting
Jasper a buddy, he's always had other cats with him,
so he was getting a little lonely and quite frankly,
kind of fucking annoying because he just wanted to play
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all the time because the fucker sleeps all day. And
then he's like.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
It's eleven o'clock, I'm ready to fucking go.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Like I'm just like, no, bro, we go to bed
at seven thirty in this house, Like, what are you
talking about? So we went and we saw two kittens
in a cage, and we were really excited to meet
them because they were really affectionate and they were really personable.
But this one fucking crotchety bitch was like, they're already claimed,
(20:12):
but the person isn't coming for like another hour. I'm like, well,
fucking finder's keeper's bitch. So we moved on from those,
and I was kind of bummed. I was like, I
don't think I'm gonna fucking find anything that I'm They're
all older cats, and like, I do understand that when
you rescue a cat, like most of the time they
are older, but most of these cats needed a lot
(20:32):
more help than I can provide them. And then they
had one small cage that had four kittens in it
that was an abandoned litter that was found, and then
they were in a foster home and yadayad YadA, one
cat was already claimed. This little girl, and this very
boisterous Raspys speaking man was looking at another one. His
(20:54):
name was mister Wednesday because they were all named after
the Adams family. We had Cousin Itsy, Tisha Gomez, and
mister Wednesday. The two left were cousin Itsy and Tisha,
and I was like, I they're both being really sweet.
I was like, can we meet both of those? So
we go into the room and literally the orange one
was orange and the other one was black. The black
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cat was Tisha. She was the female. She was on
me like white on rice. She was just so affectionate
and so cuddly and pring and the orange cat, cousin Itsy,
was right on brook. And I was talking to the lady.
I was like, you know, what's your adoption fees? What's this?
And the second she said this next sentence, I knew
(21:38):
I was walking out of there with two cats. She's like, well,
one cat is this much, but if you get both
of them, there's a discount. I'm like, fuck you, Like
I literally almost said that to her. I was just like, well,
I know I'm gonna well, I guess you might as
well just get the paperwork because I'll take both of
them because they were super bonded too, right right, So
we found up getting both of them and their sweet
little angel babies. Except the fact that Billy shit all
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over the house today because he had an upset stomach.
That was that was mortifying, but you know, it comes
with the territories. I'm trying to remember that he is
just a little kitt and baby angel. But literally, Ellie
is straight up because I need we named them Ellie
and Billy and h Ellie is my cat, like she's
on my lap all day long. She cuddles with me
(22:23):
at night. I'm just obsessed with her, so that he
beat my gv's too over the holiday seasons, and my
kids too. They're absolutely obsessed.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
I mean, we got another dog.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, that's true. Judy Moody, Judy precious, Precious Moody.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Gdy Precious Judy Moody clothes, no.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Cigar ah, yeah, damn it, I'm so close.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
Yeah, she's she's great. I guess she was a puppy
milk breeder, so she likes to eat everything with her
ass in the air, and I just remind her that
she lives. She no longer has to live. That kind
of life could.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Take the puppy out of the mill, you can't.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Take the slut out of the pitch. So I got her.
The first thing I did was bought her a collar
and a tag, and I'm pretty sure I've sent you both.
But the collar says no balls, still a baller, You
did not that one. The tag says she's slut, and
UH forgot that. That's what those said. When we took
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her to the bed this morning to establish care and
our vet and the lady was like, well, Judy, what
do you like? And Melissa goes, oh, she really likes cheese,
so they put cheese in it. And I was like, ah,
I forgot about her tag and the girl looks at
me and says, it just says cheese slut. She goes, eh,
it works. Yep, So that was cool.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Anyway, I love the cheese slut one. It makes me laugh.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
It works, and it's like literally before when we technically
still fostered her, we were like, what snacks does she like?
And like, cheese was one of the persons that she
like willingly ate, So it worked out there. You go, well,
if she didn't eat cheese, we would have sent her
right the fuck back where she came from like this,
this one's broken, but I thought of it because she
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was originally paired with this other dog Romona quickly and
that it was like whoever surrendered her was like, if
you get them both, you get a discount. So it's
like one is this much, but if you get two,
it's actually like cheaper than if you just got one.
But then so we obviously only got Judy and I
said something to a listen. I'm like, so like, do
they not get the money unless they like adopted out
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both at once, or does Romona just get to be
like really fucking cheap? And we both assume that the
because it was a puppy mill, they probably just won't
ever give them the money.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Why not?
Speaker 8 (24:33):
So yeah, whatever, Yeah what else?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
So yeah, new animals, new foods.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I think we've effectively caught everybody up with what's with
what's been going on with.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Us for the last month or so.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
So to kick off our when Animals Attack season on
this episode of Monster Man Is we are taking flight
with one of Alfred Hitchcock's most iconic thrillers. From its
unsettling silences to its swarming chaos, we're breaking down the
terre the tension and what makes this flock of feathered
fiends a horror classic. So grab your binoculars and keep
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your eyes on the skies. We're discussing nineteen sixty Three's
the birds.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
That's a sparrow, all right, we know what it is. Now,
do you have a light burning or something? Well, yes,
but there wouldn't have been that much light going up
the chimney because sometimes birds are attracted by light.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Sure is a cut, all right, but we've got to
do something about it. I don't think I get you mintioned.
Do about what?
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Well, the birds invaded the house.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
What's more likely they got in the room was just panic,
all right.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
I'll admit a bird will panic in an enclosed room.
But they didn't just get in. They came in right
down the chimney.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
My wife found a bird in the backseat of her car.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
Once.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Tell them about the party.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
We had a party here this afternoon for Kathy for
a birthday.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
In the middle of the eleven In the middle of
the party, some seagulls came down.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Of the children.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Miss Daniels was attacked by a gull only yesterday.
Speaker 9 (26:00):
Yeah, whether the kids bothering the birds or something, because
if you make any kind of a disturbance near them,
mothery just come after you.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Ow.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
The children are playing a game.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
Those girls attacked Lydia.
Speaker 9 (26:11):
Attacks are pretty strong word, don't you think. I mean,
birds just don't go around attacking people without no reason,
you know what I mean? Kids probably scared him, that's
all he's It's attacked.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
The Birds is rated PG thirteen. It was filmed from
March fifth of nineteen sixty two to July tenth, nineteen
sixty two. It was released on March twenty eighth, nineteen
sixty three in New York City, New York. It falls
into the drama, horror, mystery, and romance genre.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Well she was chasing homeboy around with love birds.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So yeah, I mean it was a little light on
the romance, but we'll get into it.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
It has a run time of one hour and fifty
nine minutes. It was directed by Alfred Hitchcock. The writing
credits go to It was actually a short story by
a woman named Daphne Dumont, and the screenplay was written
by a man named Evan Hunter. It was produced by
Alfred J. Hitchcock Productions and Universal Pictures, and it was
also distributed by Universal Pictures in the United States. As
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for the music, funnily enough, there is no soundtrack for
this film. It was thought that the film would be
more unsettling without it, and you know I would have
to agree. The special effects were done by Walt Disney Productions,
but they remained uncredited, even though they're credited right here.
It's my favorite thing. The cast consists of Rod Taylor,
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Tippy Hedron, Suzanne Plaschette, Jessica Tandy, Veronica Cartwright, Ethel Griffy's,
Charles McGraw, Ruth McDevitt, and Lonnie Chapman, among others. Some
taglines for the film based on Daphne du Marier's classic
suspense story, introducing Tippy Hedron a fascinating new personality. Please
do not see the end. First, see it from the beginning.
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Suspense and shock beyond anything you have ever seen imagined.
It could be the most terrifying motion picture I have
ever made. Nothing you have ever witnessed before has prepared
you for such sheer, stabbing shock.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
The she was no, I was gonna, yeah, You're good.
Keep on.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
This one's gonna annoy you. The birds is coming, which
is not grammatically correct, but that's intentional. And lastly, and
remember this, the next scream you hear could be your own. Wah.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
Yeah, none of those are really great. I was gonna
make a comment about how why wouldn't you start from
the start? But I forgot this was back in the
day when they would just play movies. They would start
and then they would just as soon as it was over,
they would restart it. Yep. People would walk in like
halfway through and shit.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
So yeah, I think that was a fun fact that
you actually told me a long long time ago. I
think when we covered Psycho, because he had he had
the same tagline in Psycho. He had a couple of
the same taglines like this the most scariest.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
Movie I ever made, one trick fucking pony.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Hey man, you calm down.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
Well. I like that. He puts himself in all the
movies too.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Him walking the dog in this one. Yeah, I forget
where he was in Psycho. Probably somewhere like walking on
the streets or something like that. When Marion Crane is
driving excuse me, driving around.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
But what's the budget, Matt, he is a man in
a cowboy hat standing outside of Marion's office. See budget
was three point three million. Now that we're back in
the olden days, I could use my trust the inflation
calculator that is thirty four million dollars. You know what
the saddest part about all this was is that since
nineteen sixty three, the rate of inflation is nine hundred
and thirty one percent.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, I feel that that was like something like while
watching this movie that really because Okay, I've been watching
you make fun of me, but I've been watching a
lot like Criterion movies, which are all older movies. For
the most part. There is obviously newer ones that come
out all the time, but for the most part there
from yesteryear. I I don't like the fashion so much.
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For like, I would never dress as the women dressed
and you know, the thirties or the forties, fifty sixties, whatever,
But I miss how simple everything seemed and how intentional
everything seems. A job was actually a job. Everything now
seems so automated and so much less less effort and
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actual human interaction that it's kind of like it it
brings me down. Like the even the bird Chop that
she walks into, I'm like, this is a fucking cool
pet store. Like if I was a kid, I would
be completely fascinated by walking into that pet store. Now
you walk into a boring ass pet smart that's dirty, generic, boring.
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We've lost a lot of uniqueness, is what I'm learning
watching movies like this, and that bums me out.
Speaker 8 (30:49):
I also noticed how slow everything.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Seems isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
When your brain is like mine, it is.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Would you even know your brain is like that if
you didn't know any better how fast paced things could be?
Speaker 8 (31:03):
Because when I finished watching and listen to watch but
she walked out, I kind of want to save this
till him, but I don't want to forget it. So
that's what I said. It was just like I said,
do you remember this movie being pretty bad? And she's like,
I remember it being pretty fucking boring, and I'm like,
it's it's pretty long. Not a whole lot happens. A
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lot of the shots are real slow, the reactions are
like goofy. But it also like the sixties, the acting
was different and a lot of the show was different.
So it's a different time because we both agree that
like in the sixties, this movie was probably fucking insane.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Oh yeah, it was like.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
All the all the however they did the birds and
all that stuff, which is probably just like they overlaid
a scene or some shit. But it was like it
looked so I'll tell you, so I figured it would.
It looked so fucking fake. But for the time it probably.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Like blue people's minds.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, there I was. I
thought of one scene was I thought it was really
fucking cool. But we'll we'll.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Get there when we get there, all right, Well then
we're gonna get into the plot and analysis, not fully
from Wikipedia, so you're you can read along, but this
is my blurb writing, and you know some theft, but
you know, gotta do what I gotta do. Our story
begins in San Francisco, where Melanie Daniels, a wealthy socialite
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known for her pranks and mischief, meets Mitch Brenner, a
handsome lawyer. Mitch recognizes Melanie from a past incident that
landed Melanie in about of legal trouble, and he charmingly
pretends not to know her, engaging her in a teasing
conversation at a bird shop. Mitch is there to buy
love birds for his younger sister Kathy as a birthday present.
Captivated by Mitch, Melanie not only pretends to work at
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the shop but flirts back with Mitch, and Lager impulsively
decides to purchase the lovebirds herself and delivers them to
his weekend home in Baudega Bay, a small coastal town.
Melanie's trip to Bodega Bay takes a peculiar turn when
a seagull inexplicitly swoops down and attacks her as she's
crossing the bay in a boat. This is the first
in a series of increasingly strange and violent bird attacks.
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Now I'm gonna already stop right here. So number one.
She drives sixty miles, sixty fucking miles to Bedega Bay
from Mitch's apartment after she crazily finds his fucking address
through some sort of connection that she has through an
office of some sort. And then she gets in the
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rinkiest of dinkiest boats with a bird cage and crosses
an entire fucking bay. Listen, I love a good prank,
I love a good like ah moment, but there is
no way in hell I'm driving sixty miles one goddamn way,
first of all, which is probably what like a little
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over an hour but still to a person I don't
really know. No, not only that I'm not getting in
a fucking boat either, because we don't tread water, meaning
you and I we don't do Walter.
Speaker 8 (34:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
But it gets even crazier, like secondly, she fully breaks
into his house to put the birds in there.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Hahaha.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
How do you know that this is gonna go over? Well,
this is what I'm talking about. This is nineteen sixty three.
Times have changed, because if someone fucking came into my
house with two lovebirds after a little joke in a
fucking pet store, I don't care how cute you are,
get the fuck out of my house, you psychopath. You
found my address of not at my house, my mother's house,
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and you drove sixty miles with birds. That's crazy.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Yeah, I mean just a decision was made.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Fucking bananas, Like how far would you go for a prank? No,
I'm not talking distance, but like prank wise, like are
you a prankster?
Speaker 8 (34:50):
Depending on who the recipient is? But yeah, I mean
keep in mind. Ye, my dad's gift card for Christmas
is printed on that twenty four by thirty six poster
that he has to go into the store with to
get and to use.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Oh my god, how is his reaction to that?
Speaker 8 (35:04):
I mean, he didn't hate it. He was just like,
what the hell I said, I have an email you?
He goes, Mo, I'm gonna goes, I'm gonna Cary up
and go in there with this. And I said, just say,
your dipshit son made you do this.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I love him so much.
Speaker 8 (35:14):
Yeah, well, yeah, we're you.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Able to do the puzzle thing for your mom?
Speaker 8 (35:18):
Yeah. And then I'm pretty sure someone at the company
and that princident stole it.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Are you serious?
Speaker 8 (35:22):
Yeah? So I called Amazon and they're like, oh, well,
sometimes we accidentally double give out code, so we'll refund it,
just buy another one. And I'm like, Okay, that's bullshit.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
That stucks.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
I'm sorry, I agree. I mean, there's there is a
chance that it was just accidentally double cent, but.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Whatever, what's the likelihood of that?
Speaker 8 (35:40):
Pretty low when it went through a bunch of hands,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Exactly, people are fucking scumbags, and it would it wouldn't
be like, I mean, it's traceable. But also, how much
effort is Amazon going to put into that. They're just
going to refund it to you, right, right? So yeah,
that's pretty solid pranking. But I don't think you'd drive
sixty miles and then an additional like boat ride to
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fulfill a prank.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Once again, depends on who it is and what the
prank is.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Fair, fair, I can't wait to prank you one day.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Our friendship is a prank. Oh no, I'm just kidding.
I'm so sorry. Now I'm just gonna get a plane taken,
come out and give you a hugs. I feel the
way that was a bad one.
Speaker 8 (36:23):
I mean, I can't remember what we we offered to
fly you out here for.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
You offer to fly me out like bi weekly.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
You're like you, yeah, it's probably like a pretty good
meat raffle or some shit.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Probably the simplest thing, Like there's a game Thursday night,
you want to fly you out here? Coming out. It's
just the simplest things.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
As of recording this, we are my sports team plays
your sports team on Sunday, exactly. But it's in Philadelphia. Yeah,
it's in Philadelphia. I hear.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
Let's all go to the lobby.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Let's all go to the line.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Let's all a little lobby to get ourselves a treat.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Melanie stays in Bodega Bay because she's fucking crazy to
get to know Mitch, his family, and the townspeople. She
meets Mitch's over protective mother, Lydia, and his ex girlfriend Annie,
who still harbors feelings for him, but helps Melanie find
a place to stay. Women helping women work. As Melanie
spends more time in Bodega Bay, the birds the bird
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attacks escalate infrequency and severity. What begins as a minor incidence,
such as a gull swooping at Melanie sparrows flying down chimneys,
soon turns into a full scale assault on the residence.
One memorial scene shows crows gathering ominously on a jungle
gym near the local school. The birds, which are usually
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seen as harmless, become an inexplicable force of terror. Tensions
build as the townspeople grapple with the bizarre events. They
attempt to rationalize the situation, but they're there is no
clear explanation for why the birds have suddenly turned aggressive.
Their attempts to understand or control this situation proof futile.
The attacks become more deadly as time goes on. A
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group of birds attack a children's party than the town
itself is besieged, people are injured, Homes and buildings are damaged,
which I love seeing a fucking giant hole in a roof,
thinking that a goddamn crow could pike through that, but
you know whatever. And then after all of this, the
panic finally sets in. Some residents, including a local woman
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and a diner, suggest that the attacks might be a
divine punishment. Another chilling moment comes when the birds inexplicitly
crash into a glass telephone booth, trapping Melanie inside. The
most intense sequence occurs when Melanie is trapped in a
house with Mitch, Lydia, and Kathy. They board up the
house with the They board up the windows and doors,
trying to keep the birds out, but despite their efforts,
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birds find a way in and the scene becomes a
claustrophobic nightmare as they fight for survival. So actually, during
this part, one of my favorite shots occurs. As you
talk about how boring the and slow everything is moving, Uh,
there's a shot of Lydia, Melanie, and Mitch. They're all
standing in I think the living room and they do
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this like Dolly pan shot. It's like goes backwards because
everybody always like ooh, panning, panning, mean, there's many different
camera movements. I'm learning it's called a dolly shot that
goes from Lydia to Melanie, but I may actually have
them mixed up the two women. I just thought it
was this. I thought it was a gorgeous shot because
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it's you see the terror on their face. They're effectively trapped,
and it's just there's no music, there's no talking, there's
barely they're barely breathing, but you just hear the chaos
of the whipping of the wings and the cause of
the birds outside, like you know, like they know that
they're fucked essentially. And I just thought it was super
cool shot. But in the final scenes, after a particularly
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brutal attack, Melanie is severely injured because she foolishly decided
to investigate upstairs and when she entered a bedroom there
was a giant hole in the roof allowing the birds
to get into the house. Mitch decided they must leave
Bodega Bay, despite the ominous flock of birds that still
gathered outside. The family cautiously drives away in the eerie
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silence of dawn as thousands of birds perch, watching but
not attacking. The film ends with ambiguity, with no explanation
for the bird attacks, leaving audiences unsettled and perhaps even
a little bit confused. Budabing mataboom. That is a synopsis
of the birds. Yeah, huh huh. You brought up before
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all that that this must have been wild in the sixties,
And I actually did some research on that because it's
been kind of fascinating to me to watch these movies
and try to put myself in that mindset of a
thirty three year old in nineteen sixty three. I'm not
jaded by all the movies that I've seen, like this
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didn't scare me by any means, But how would I
feel in that situation?
Speaker 8 (41:16):
Which is funny, Ash Tippy Hendrin was thirty three in.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
This movie, fucking right, God, because what.
Speaker 8 (41:23):
It's always weird to look at like, yeah, that's where
I was going where I was, like, I bet the
I can't remember the old lady Jessica Tandy, so she
would have.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Been thirty seven.
Speaker 8 (41:33):
No, she's like fifty, but she looked seventy five.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
I mean that's the only downfall to like these movies
or like that generation rather is eighteen year old looked
forty it was a hard living.
Speaker 8 (41:48):
Oh no, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
So this movie basically birthed psychological horror. Like you don't
get movies I saw. I didn't I didn't quote it,
so I don't know exactly where I've read this, But
you don't get movies like The Blair Witch Project without this.
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You don't get movies like Halloween without Alfred Hitchcock's the
way he spun horror. He was really famous for. I
call it using the negative space, like he really leans
on what you don't see and only like kind of
like what you imagine and what you hear, Like you
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see the birds, but in your day to day life,
like I see pigeons, I see sparrows. I'm not petrified.
And oddly enough, in my neighborhood, and I may have
sent you videos of this because it happens once a year,
and I do call it the Bird's Day because these
black crows will migrate around my area and there will
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be like five hundred crows outside in a tree and
they'll like swoop down and they'll you know, peck in
the grass and like eat the worms stuf like that,
and it looks crazy. Oh, I'm sure the second anyone
opens a door, they go flying and it's it's crazy.
But yeah, like he really does lean into silences. That
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was the one thing when I was reading about Alfred
Hitchcock because my dad's a huge Hitchcock fan, and I
actually watched Criterion Spine number three, The Lady Vanishes, which
is an Alfred Hitchcock movie. It's supposed to be a thriller.
I was. I was not thrilled, but I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
He really he just he has such a.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Unique way of telling a story. In my humble opinion.
Speaker 8 (43:35):
Yeah, don't get me wrong, Like I don't think it
was bad or a waste of time. It's just they're
they're a different speed and a different approach than things.
And with starting any new season for whatever, because we
started the oldest and work our way forward, it's like
you have to kind of set a little bit and
get used to the shit and then yeah, work your
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way back up to bat shit insanity pretty.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Much, which fucking can't wait for. And I think this
is a perfect movie too, to kind of kick off
this season, because like when animals attack, you know, I
speaking of animals attack, you probably hear my fucking cats
literally battling hobbly. Oh good, Uh, it's a pussy fight
out there, pussy do it all fighting. I laugh every
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time you say that to me.
Speaker 8 (44:23):
It's funny to me. I'm sorry, No.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
You're good, but it it's a This movie is a
really good representation of when nature takes back its rains. Yeah,
because a lot most of the movies on the ones
that I've seen, at least the most of the movies
on this season that I have, you know, I know
very well. It's usually like a singular animal attacking a
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singular group of people, or not singular, but like a
group of people. It's not a whole flock of fucking animals.
It's like when we watch Jaws. It's not seventeen fucking
shark attacking amity. It's just one big shark who's defending
itself against someone in a boat trying to kill it,
you know whatever. A shark is shark and is basically
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what I'm saying here.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
Yeah, But also a shark is generally an animal that
people are afraid of because of their size and what
they do and water and all. A bird you just
go outside and you don't expect a bird to be
a problem and.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
I have an irrational fear of sharks, but we'll get
into that when we speak on Jaws. So I have
a new segment for this show. I'm very excited. I
don't know if I told you about it. I think
I'm just kind of like surprising you with it.
Speaker 8 (45:34):
I drink a lot, so there's a good chance I
just don't remember if you did.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
That is very fair, I will be fully honest. I
stole this segment from my cousin Jackie and Andrew. They
have shows about the Last of Us, Wayfair and Strangers
and The Last Cast, So if you are a fan
of that franchise in any way, shape or form, they
do a deep dive of the video games, and then
they do a companion show with the show when it
comes out. I will post the links for their shows
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in the show notes so you can check them out.
But it's called would We Survive? So basically, in this segment,
we're just gonna kind of recap the situation that these
people are put in the movie Would we Survive in
Podaga Bay? Matt, why don't you go first? Would you
survive a bird attack in Podaga Bay? Via what we
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saw in this movie?
Speaker 8 (46:25):
I mean, that's a really good question. Probably not that
was easy. I'll just be honest. I feel like the numbers,
the sheer number of them, and eventually I would just
give up. Also, knowing how I feel on a daily basis,
I probably would have just walked outsidely down in the
street and said, do your worst birds go.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Well, here's the thing, I have some some fun facts
for you. My mother, who I mean, that's an actual fact.
Speaker 8 (46:56):
She's not listening, so you leave this in.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
She might she is a crafty bitch.
Speaker 8 (47:01):
Won't that be fucking weird? That's like she is the
only way, this is the only way I can hear
my sweet angel's voice. Say, listen to her talk about
movies on the internet. She's eighty five in my mind.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Well, then I will say lovingly to my mother, who
I haven't spoken to in fifteen years, fuck you, bitch.
Speaker 8 (47:18):
I hope you choke on twelve hippo cox.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Or oh the imagery, Oh god. Anyway, she was a
bird breer, which I hated, and she also owned a
lot of exotic exotic parrots. What questions okay, and I
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have answers.
Speaker 8 (47:40):
Go, how do you initiate their bird? Fuck you? Just
like lock them in a cage and like, turn on
some Marvin Gaye looks good.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I mean essentially, yeah, you just put a man.
Speaker 8 (47:52):
Just you put in just put a man bird in
with a lady bird, and then they make little baby birds.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
That's pretty much what happens. Is they instinct takes over.
They don't have to fucking like each other, and then
you separate them until you know you want another breed
of birds. Yeah, like I used to feed baby birds.
I used to put the little metal thing or what this.
Speaker 8 (48:14):
Makes so much more sense? Now?
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Why does this make sense?
Speaker 8 (48:17):
Expound because you're a lunatic.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
That's true. I was forced to do it. It wasn't like, hey,
I was like, mom, this is really what I want
to do. I fucking hate birds, like in.
Speaker 8 (48:26):
My heart open be like I want to wash them. Fuck.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Oh god, bird fucking is so weird.
Speaker 8 (48:31):
I know that there's a vent involved, a vent, yeah,
because it isn't like they don't private schools. They could
have lied to me. But they fuck like mid air, right,
and there isn't like a penis that goes into a
lady vagina.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
No, they're not fucking they're not fucking eagles. So the
birds We actually bred lovebirds once, which is funnily enough,
because bluffbirds are actually very I mean you have to
buy them in pairs. You can buy them individually. You
can buy them individually, but they don't recommend it. I
we bred those, but they essentially the male mounts the
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female ladybird from behind and just does like a weird
little head bob thing, and there's some story. You're gonna
fucking google this, aren't you, all right, and something gets
inserted somewhere and then eggs happen. I don't know. I
didn't like intently watch it. I just took care of
the fucking infant birds when they came out of their shells.
Speaker 8 (49:25):
Oh so it's called chloaca chloachal kiss, right, Yeah, there's openings.
The male bird rubs the opening against each other to
stimulate the flow of sperm. So yeah, so I wasn't wrong.
Vent is probably not the right word. It was probably
how it's described me as a child, But it was
like they're just the man. The man's bay door opens
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and the woman's bay door opens, and then the sperm
go into her parking garage.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
That's how I just in my head, it's just like
bay door open. But so yeah, I so well. She
had exotic birds that we owned as well, and the
one was the worst fucking animal that has ever existed
on this fucking planet. It probably would have been the
fucking ring leader of this movie. She had a macaw.
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We had another one named Gabriel that I don't remember
what his breed was, but he was an exotic parate.
It was illegal to have all these fucking exotic fucking
animals in a Philly row home, but you know whatever.
The McCall was basically like a dog. He would literally
get on his back so you could scratch his belly,
and he would kiss you all the time, which bird
kisses are very interesting. They just kind of take their
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tongue in like tapya, and their tongue is dry. It's
so weird. But so I did some research. So a
macau's bite force can range from five hundred to two
thousand pounds per square inch, which is insane. The African
gray parent parrot, which is the fucking prick that she owned,
named Arthur, which he almost ripped her lip on off.
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He tried to bite me numerous He was just fucking mean.
You would go to change his water and he would
just fucking attack you. He was a bitch. They have
one of psi of four hundred to seven hundred pounds,
And in this movie they used crows slash ravens because
they did actually use like a lot of fucking real
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birds in this movie. They have like about a three
hundred pound PSI for a raven, but crows are actually shredders.
They don't have like a really hardcore bite force. They
just fucking tried due to pieces. So it kind of
makes sense that they use that type of bird for
this one, not like you know, pigeons or something like
that that's not going to really fucking do anything. Knowing
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all of that information, if it was like one bird,
I could easily swat.
Speaker 8 (51:48):
That bitch downright.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Give me up to five birds and I might be okay.
I might get a little fucking dinged up because they
got claws and shit that are fucking sharp as hell.
But you know, I think I could, you know, get
out of it a lot, maybe just you know, a
little disheveled, but a swarm of them. Yeah, no, I'm dying.
I'm dying immediately. But here's also the thing, and I'm
gonna probably repeat this about thirty times during the season,
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because I think there's about thirty movies.
Speaker 8 (52:14):
Can't wait so excited.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
I would not put myself in this type of situation
the second I would have gotten that bird swooped on
my head. Well, here's the thing. I wouldn't even been
in the fucking boat. But if a seagull swooped and
fucking made me bleed, I'd be like, you know what, guys,
Bodega Bay ain't for me. Deuces enjoyed the lovebirds. I'm
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sure dinner was going to be lovely with your bitch mother.
Speaker 8 (52:40):
Uh, Bodega Bay more like Bodega neay.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Oh shit, I hope you say Bodega nay when you
fucking rate this.
Speaker 8 (52:50):
But I'm not going to give it a nay.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Oh I'm really I'm shocked. I'm shocked. But yeah, no,
we're both dead. So ye rip to us and the birds.
But yeah, uh so I'm shocked.
Speaker 8 (52:59):
You're a ya, not really, I'm not gonna yes, yes, yes, yeah,
we'll go. Yeah. I do feel like it's a really
relevant movie to the horror genre as a whole. You
just gotta go into it knowing that this runs. So
this is back when movies when they were over. There
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wasn't seven minutes of credits at the end. It goes
till the fucking last second, because it all starts at
the beginning. So it's just it's a long movie. It's
two hours.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah that these are movie The credits are in the
beginning of these movies.
Speaker 8 (53:33):
Yeah. I did almost fall asleep watching this, but I
was laying on my couch underneath like three blankets, so
I did it to myself. I was like a little burrito.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah, I mean that's living the life. Really live in
the life. Yeah, I mean it's a yay for me too.
I've watched Alfred Hitchcock movies my whole life. I actually
this was the first time I watched this from start
to finish. I believe I may have watched it when
I was a kid. I just don't remember. But yeah,
I mean I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm in this like
weird phase of my life where I just love old movies.
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So that's not going to benefit you in any way
other than expound my vocabulary and make me sound smarter.
Been watching a lot of French and Italian films. I'm
just you know, I'm cultured is basically who I'm getting
at welcome.
Speaker 8 (54:20):
I was trying to think of there's the episode of
The Simsons where Homer tries to get the weight loss tape,
but he gets the vocabulary tape, and I was trying
to think of what he says that next morning, and
I We're just fucking a lot of blanks and I
don't have enough time.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
To It's cool. I will insert it right here.
Speaker 8 (54:39):
Predicting the future. So the study of animal and clouds?
Speaker 6 (54:43):
Dad, Dad, do you know what to day is the equinox? No,
it's two weeks.
Speaker 8 (54:47):
Sin't you got that subliminal weight loss tape.
Speaker 7 (54:49):
Let's get you.
Speaker 6 (54:50):
On the scale.
Speaker 8 (54:53):
You gained thirteen.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Pounds genuous Mom to Bangshe there's subliminal canery.
Speaker 8 (54:59):
Of bucks on them, all right.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
So now we're gonna go to monster manushes. I'm gonna
try and get through these fairly quickly. There is a
lot of them, but I'm gonna skip around.
Speaker 8 (55:07):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
So The Birds marked Tippy Hedron's first major film role.
Hitchcock discovered her on a TV commercial and then signed
her to an exclusive contract, grooming her for stardom. Hitchcock
was known for being highly controlling with his actors, especially
with Hedron. He even supervised her wardrobe, hairstyle, and screen persona,
aiming to turn her into his ideal leaguing lady. Now
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do you know a lot about Tippy Hedron.
Speaker 8 (55:30):
She's got a fuck a weird name.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Well, her name isn't really Tippy, it's a nickname. Okay.
Speaker 8 (55:39):
Next, next, you're gonna tell me that Doodle's Stevenson's real
name isn't Doodles.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
You know, I just you know, I like to you know, it's.
Speaker 8 (55:46):
Not I looked it up before, but I thought it
was funny that there's a guy named Doodles Stevenson in
this movie.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
So listen with my job, I see a lot of
weird names, so it wouldn't fucking shock me if any
of these are real. Tippy Hedron is the mother of
Melanie Griffith and the great gandmother or yeah, the grandmother
of Dakota Johnson. And we actually have a movie on
here called Roar, which comes out and it came out
in nineteen eighty one. Tippy Hedron had a pet lion
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in her house that mauled Melanie Griffith. And that was
the same lion that they filmed Raar with and I'm
really excited.
Speaker 5 (56:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
Like if you look up, there was a whole Life
magazine interview with her where this fucking huge male lion
is playing in the pool with Melanie laying in bed
with Tippy. It was a legit pet to them. It
fucking cuckoo kachew. Like there's pictures of the lion trying
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to bite bite Melanie's leg.
Speaker 8 (56:46):
I'm looking at there's one of these guy his mouth
around her back and she's laughing.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
Yeah. I mean he was a very gentle soul until
he wasn't, you know, asked sig Vin and Freud too.
You know they're animals anyway. Hitchcock used a of real birds,
mechanical birds, and optical effects for the attack scenes, with
live birds often tethered to actors to make the scenes
more realistic. Bet that pissed off the birds. During filming,
Hedron endured physical and psychological stress, particularly particularly in the
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attic scene where Hitchcock replaced the fake birds with real ones.
Hedrin reportedly suffered cut, scratches and mental exhaustion due to
the repeated bird attacks, which took five days to shoot.
Speaker 8 (57:25):
Could you imagine, Nope, that sounds awful.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
You have to go into this room for five days straight,
and you know there's real birds that are gonna fucking
scratch this shit out of me and fight you.
Speaker 8 (57:39):
By day three, they're like, all right, tipy, let's go there.
Just give me a goddamn minute. Birds are gonna eat me.
I'm sick of as shit.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
I don't think I read that fact like fully through
the first.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
Time I put this in my notes, because that just
fucking hilarious. Like after one hour, I'd be like, did
we get it?
Speaker 3 (57:59):
Five fucking days, five fucking work days.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
That's a forty hour work week getting attacked by bird?
Oh shit. Uh So. Unlike many films, The Birds has
no traditional musical score I mentioned this earlier. Instead, Hitchcock
relied on an eerie sound design created by electronic composer
Oscar Sala and sound engineer Remy Gasman. The duo used
a mix of electronically synthesized bird sounds, amplifying the unsettling
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atmosphere and emphasizing the unpredictability of the attacks. I did
love the sound of the Birds. I thought it was
really menacing, and if I heard that in my home,
I would be genuinely uncomfortable and kind of scared.
Speaker 8 (58:37):
Yep A.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
Hitchcock opted for an open ended conclusion to keep the
suspense lingering after the credits rolled. The studio originally suggested
adding an explanation of or resolution for the bird attacks,
but Hitchcock resisted, believing that the unexplained threat would have
a more lasting of impact on the audience. I'm going
to keep this as the last manutia because there was
a lot, but they're very repetitive and I would love
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to end on this one. Hitchcock initially considered a more
dramatic ending in which Melanie and the Brenners drive towards
San Francisco only to find the Golden gate Bridge covered
in birds. This would have added a global sense of menace,
suggesting that the tax attacks were spreading. However, the idea
was scrapped due to the budget limitations and technological challenges.
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So I looked up to see if this was possible.
Could birds take over the world if they wanted to?
And in twenty twenty one there was a study and
they estimated that there are around fifty billion birds in
the world, which is about six birds for every human,
so one thousand percent if birds wanted to, oh they could.
Speaker 8 (59:43):
Yeah, And I mean there's some mean ones out there too.
I mean it's like there's just all gonna be little hummingbirds.
The You're gonna have fucking hawks and crows and vultures
and all sorts of weird shit that's gonna come after you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
Could you imagine just like fucking just like a bunch
of like buzzards just coming at.
Speaker 8 (59:58):
Oh man, I don't want a buzzer coming at me
or on me.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I don't like birds in any way, shape or form.
They scared me as a kid and having to deal
with them so intimately as a young adult teenager as
an adult, I fucking fully avoid them. Like pigeons don't
scare me. But the Philly Zoo they have like an
atrium that you can walk in and like if you
hold a little cup, birds will fly on you. I
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won't go in there. So yeah, that's the birds. It
is a It definitely was a cultural revelation on horror.
It had huge influences. Like I said before, you don't
get things like the Blair Witch Project. You don't think
get things like It Follows. You don't get these weird
suspenseful movies without Hitchcock, right, and even like the special effects,
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even though they're fairly lame to us jaded bitches. It
was an incredible feat for nineteen.
Speaker 8 (01:00:55):
Sixty three, right, we're also living sixty years in the future.
Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Yeah, so amazing. But that's what And it's funny because
the next movie that we cover in Animal's Attack isn't
until almost ten years later. There wasn't much happening in
that type of subgenre enough for to warrant a movie,
so it was definitely, uh, you know, Cornerstone.
Speaker 7 (01:01:23):
I don't want to be an Alarmiston. I think we're
in real trouble.
Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
I don't know how they started, oh why, but I
know it's here and we'd be crazy to ignore.
Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
It, to ignore a lot.
Speaker 6 (01:01:32):
The bird War, yes, the bird War, the Bird Attack play,
call it what you like. They're massing out there someplace
and they'll be back. You can count them ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
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Next week we are tackling another creature feature as per theme,
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By way, are.
Speaker 7 (01:02:20):
You trying to say that all these.
Speaker 9 (01:02:24):
That sounds impossible, Sebastia Grog, I'm just telling you what
happened to one of my boats.
Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
The girls would after your fish, mister Shows. Really, let's
be logical about this.
Speaker 7 (01:02:34):
What were the crows after at the school?
Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
What do you think they would after, mister Daniels.
Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
I think they were after the children?
Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Who what purpose.
Speaker 7 (01:02:46):
To kill them?
Speaker 6 (01:02:48):
Why?
Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
I don't know why? I thought not.
Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Birds have been on this planet, miss Daniels, since ARCHAEOPTERRICKX
one hundred and forty million years ago, demog that they
wait all that time to start a war against humanity.
Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
No one called it a war.
Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Scotchlight on the war, mister Shows seemed to be implying
as much.
Speaker 7 (01:03:10):
Who saything about a war?
Speaker 6 (01:03:11):
All I said some gold, No came down on one
of my boats.
Speaker 7 (01:03:16):
I could have been after the fish.
Speaker 6 (01:03:18):
Just like you said.
Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
The captain shouldish shot at them.
Speaker 7 (01:03:22):
Gods are scavengers anyway, most birds are get yourselves guns
and wipe them off the face.
Speaker 8 (01:03:28):
Of the earth.
Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
That would hardly be possible. Why not this is Bundy.
Because there are eight six hundred and fifty species of
birds in the world today, mister Carter, it is estimated
that five billion, seven hundred and fifty million birds live
in the United States alone. The five continents of the world.
Speaker 7 (01:03:46):
Call them all.
Speaker 8 (01:03:47):
Get rid of a messy.
Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Animalist probably contain more than a hundred billion birds.
Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
It's the end of the world.
Speaker 8 (01:04:04):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
You keep sassin me. Maybe I will take on Ai
to be my co host.
Speaker 8 (01:04:10):
What a fucking goofy would that be?
Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Ha hah huh, Erica.
Speaker 8 (01:04:15):
You are so smart and ever insightful. Erica, ha, I
like this film. I like you more though my hebes
I got a new memory chip today. He beat my gis.
Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
It also fucks.
Speaker 8 (01:04:38):
It also ducks. It's an autocorrect joke.
Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
I got it, I got it. You're ducking moron.