Frogs (1972)

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Well, hey there, folks, Just like how only you can
prevent forest fires, only you can prepare yourself for what's
ahead on this podcast. But before we hike into the
woods of horror films and all the terrifying tales they tell,
you should know that on this show, we'll be taking
a deep dive into some of your favorite scary movies.
But be warned there will be spoilers hidden behind every

(00:26):
tree stump. So if you haven't seen the movie we're
talking about, well you should probably circle on back to
the trailhead partner. Not only that, but things can get
a little let's say explicit. Around here. You'll hear strong language,
and those opinions of ours, oh, they can be as
sharp as a bear's fangs. So remember, only you can
decide if you're ready for the journey ahead. So stick

(00:49):
around if you're prepared to face all those spoilers and
listen to all that strong language and entertain some seriously
bold takes.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Otherwise, tread lightly.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Hard.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Karen, what's going on, Grandpa?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
This is Pickett Smith, Mister Smith, Jason Crockett. When mister
Crockett my cousin Michael.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Martindale, Well, Karen Cramp but.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Clint didn't know what he was doing out there, and
he nearly ran mister Smith down, so we fished him out.
Now we're going off him a little food and drink after.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
He gets changed out of his wet clothes.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Just the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
This is Smith. I saw you out on the lake
early this morning. Have you been paddling around this island
browers taking pictures? Yes, sir, But do you know what's
against the law, Grandpa?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
No, sure I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
There's a sign out, Dad, there's private property here. Who
you're with anyway, I'm a freelance photographer. I'm doing a
pollution layout for an ecology magazine.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Think any fishes of frogs lately? I saw the biggest
bullfrogs this morning.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
This thing damn creatures are everywhere.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Hi, Hello, and welcome to this week's episode of Monster Madness,
a podcast dedicated to all sorts of creatures, features and beyond.
I'm Erica and joined with me is a man who
fears no animal, especially frogs. My co host Matthew him Matt, Hi,
frogs are weird.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Sometimes they climb on my windows.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Really, you have frogs and your.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Tree frogs and shit? I mean, I lived kind of
next to a swamp. Do you not really a swamp?
There's a river, it's just very wet, swampy, swampy. Yeah,
Like we're gonna de Judy because we don't think she'll
stay white all summer.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Oh god, I thought you said something else. My brain switched,
like not killing precious Dudy. No, No, I just thought,
for whatever reason, my brain just went completely dyslexic and
just heard Judy died. And I was like, what what
Like we've been talking for a few minutes and you're
just okay, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
I don't think I would be okay if she was dead.
How old is Judy nine? Okay, well the estimate is nine.
We don't know. We don't really know when she was born.
Plus she just years of getting just dicked, forced to
shit out babies like some sort of fuck machine, little white,

(03:16):
fuzzy fuck machine.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
You can find Monstermanus on your favorite podcasting platform sites,
social media, things of that nature. I don't know what
I'm saying. Matt streams video games, drum sessions. I joined
them occasionally Twitch YouTube. We got all the socials. Look
in the show notes. Do you know the drill? If
you've been here for a while. You know what I'm
gonna say. I don't think I need to mention it.
A lot has transpired the last you know. Here's the thing,

(03:43):
me and Matt were supposed to record a bunch of
episodes during our time off Newslash. We didn't, mainly because
I of course, got sick for like a month and
couldn't breathe through at least one nostril.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
So you are a literal Petrie Dish.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's not me, it's the children.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I didn't tell you to have them.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I'm aware.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Do you have like a Saint Vincent the Paul? You
can just drop them off at someone? Can you just
donate children? Is that a thing you can do? Is
that illegal?

Speaker 2 (04:13):
To surrender a child? I'm pretty sure that's legal.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Surrender sounds like makes it seem shitty. I'm trying to
be shitty. I'm just trying to unload a couple kids.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I'm gonna keep this one, but the other one.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
That's what I'm saying. People do that with animals all
the time. Why can't we do this with kids.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I mean, I don't know the state of the world.
We might be able too soon.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I hear we're bringing back plastic straws.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Hell, yeah, suck it. Environment, what a.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Fucking weird and hild to do. But I so our
friend Dylan did tell me that earlier, and I said,
I've realized I haven't seen any paper straws to begin with.
Like I don't go to Starbucks. I don't go to
places that we generally have them. Only it's just my
fast food addictions. So it's like McDonald's doesn't care, and
fast food places don't. But it's like, if you don't

(04:59):
want to have straws or you don't want to deal
with it, just get like the Starbucks lid, the mouth
sippy cup lids, be done with it. Who cares? Then
you don't need straws.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
On the rare occasion that I do get Starbucks, I
do opt for the sippy cup lid, and I have
metal straws all in my house, so we.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Do have metal straws, but I AlSi uses them.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I don't because you're a man.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
I was gonna say it, but I'm like, nah, we
don't need to bring gender into this. But it's because
I'm a man.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Before we get into the movie, for the night, we
are for the afternoon morning whenever you're listening to this
enjoying it because it's actually not even night time for us.
On the rarest occasion that we were recording in the
early afternoon. It's lovely. I love it. The sun's still out.
I have an errand to run after this. It's wild.
I can actually do adulting and not do this at

(05:46):
like eight o'clock at night. It's beautiful. But we are
going to go to one of our favorite segments that
now has trade names. Does it fuck? Have our hebes
been g bed?

Speaker 4 (05:57):
And?

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (05:59):
What was it? What was the third one? How did
you phrase it?

Speaker 3 (06:02):
My chimneys have been cricketed?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
There it is. It's my favorite segment of the show.
I hate this show, but I'm still continue to stop.
You're a loyalist and we love you. So my he
bees have been g bed twice. Dose. So I'm gonna
start with the one that relates to me being sick

(06:25):
for the entirety of my life. Now, I found through
an article that they, uh, some doctor put out that
cold meds are basically a scam. Now again, I'm not
a doctor. I don't know if this is true. I
just know he was a doctor and he's basically was
just like you're drinking liquid tile and all everything else
like doesn't really do anything. It gives you, like mild relief,

(06:47):
but nothing's really gonna help. If you really want to
like kind of decongest your head, which was my main issue,
you want to take allergy meds. So that's what I do.
When I'm sick. I'll take like a Benadero at night.
It'll knock me out. I'll get to sleep, my nose
dries up. Everybody's happy they have Benadryl plus congestion. He
beat Gebi's. That shit is amazing. If you're ever congested,

(07:10):
I please sponsor this Benadryl. That shit worked so fucking well.
I was shocked. I didn't even know it existed. I
ran into this store to get something. It literally caught
my eye. I was like, boom, right in the cart.
Best decision ever. Not a pink pill. It's a blue pill.
It's beautiful. It's beautiful blue pill. So that was my

(07:30):
first one. My second, he be jeeped. I had never
had the McDonald's spicy Buffalo sauce just because I'm not
a big like I don't get condiments from restaurants because
I'm like I have a shit ton in my fridge
and they usually charge extra whatever. My dog's my youngest
Dogter's birthday was a few days ago. She wanted McDonald's

(07:51):
for her birthday. I obliged because I'm a good parent.
They accidentally tossed in spicy buffalo sauce. Fucking fire. Who
would a funk? It's a solid buffalo sauce. Have you
ever had it?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah? I have had it. I don't feel like it
blew my tits off because if I go to so
here's the thing is, like, if I go to McDonald's
when I was a kid, it was always sweet and
sour all day. I don't think sweet and sour is
as good as it was, or it just doesn't taste
the same because I'm an adult with sophisticated flavors.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
You mean a sophisticated palette.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
That too, I'm into sophisticated flavors. But also like, if
I'm going to McDonald's, I'm not looking for buffalo sauce.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Not a bad way, but like, yeah, I never would
actively be like, oh the buffalo sauce. But it was
a nice, little serendipitous, you know thing that occurred. I
eat the shit out of it, and Mikey even liked it.
And Mikey is not a spicy dude. The spiciest thing
that he does is red like crushed red pepper. He's like,
that's my limit, and he fucking was jiving.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
I'm trying to think like the last, so I will
end up getting like honey mustard a lot because I
think it's easy. But I also at this point, if
I'm going to McDonald's, it's probably because something specific came out.
I'm not getting chicken nuggets unless the sauce came out,
so like I even if if you ask, like I
can't think of shit as to what would be worth

(09:11):
getting sauce wise.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I think also too, I just kind of had such
a low expectation because like, if I've gotten condiments at restaurants,
you know, or you know, fast food places, it's like
your typical barbecue, ranch ketchup honey mustard, honey mustard. I
really think I've never had one where I thought it
was bad. It's I think it's really hard to kind
of fuck up honey mustard. But you can fuck up ranch,

(09:34):
and you can fuck up barbecue sauce.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Just in my.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Experience, I don't disagree with the ranch. I vaguely remember
I did not like the ranch or barbecue sauce at
McDonald's because here's the thing. I don't eat there often
enough to or get stuff that will require dipping. Said,
you know, sauces. So it's been many a year, but
that you know, my hebes were gee beat crickets jimmyed it.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Fucked uh uh yeah, you kind of threw me off
a little bit there with your repeated I just.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Want to cover all bases. So anybody who likes that
doesn't fucking label they got it. Seth has his Hebi GBI's.
You know, you have your Crickety Jimmy's or whatever it is,
Jimney Crickety's. I don't know the little guy either. Which way?
Do you have anything that fucks GB's or Crickety's all?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
I had three things because that's how I like to party.
I'd actually still am mildly uncomfortable from that spicy berria
ramen that I sent you because it was spicier than
I intended, And now I'm like Gurkley like spicy guts. No,
it was really fucking good, though. I made that just

(10:47):
top of tea of spicy berria ramen and then two
soft boiled eggs, a shitload of onions, and some turkey
that we had and I ate that there's a it's
a birthday cake loaded cereal, so like if you've ever
seen the load where it's like the stuff the Cinnamentos
crunch pipe shit, though I can't remember there's two of
them that first came out, but they came out two
new ones. The birthday cake was a new one that

(11:08):
we just got. I literally got it this morning. That
was like way better than I expected it to be. Also,
cherry lime Lacroix. I didn't know it's the thing Dylan
got him and he kept like for literally a week.
He would text me twice day just be like, I
don't know if I've told you how good this stuff is.
So finally I wade a grocery order to this morning
because we have a snowstorm coming tomorrow, and I had

(11:29):
some on there and I've had two and I was
like these are I hate? How right that little bitch was.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, Brooke loves Lacroix, so I will have to keep
an eye out because we are actually going grocery shopping tonight.
In prep for our storm tomorrow and as of recording this,
the Super bowls on Sundry, So getting fixed ins to
make some homide cheese steaks.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Gobert fixes.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Okay, so Lacroix ramen, and U Cereal the cereal.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, those are the three things that Those are the
three things that I had since we last talked twenty
four hours ago.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Listen, we are just being extremely productive and recording on
a very busy schedule.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
You're not wrong because we like to make sure our
friends have sh Dude, listen.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, you know I like to entertain the masses, and
you know it wouldn't hurt if those masses were a
little bit bigger. But you know, I like the masses
that we have.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
You know, you can't grow too big, too bigly, too quickly.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Talking to you, Seth, share the show with your friends,
and you can't share it back with Matt. He's on
the show that doesn't count. Have you heard of this podcast.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Seth would never do that.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
No, he's a good guy.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
You've never met him. He could be a serial killer
for all you know.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Through all the things that you have ever told me
by proxy, I know that Seth is a good guy
and you're a good guy, so and you don't typically
hang out with douchebags.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
So I like how probably wildly uncomfortable he's getting by
the fact that we're just now having a five minute
conversation about him.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's not like we're saying his full name and social
secure party number, which I.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Don't know his social security number. I know his full name.
I don't even know his address. I just know where
he lives. I could drive to his house based on memory,
but I could not mail him something without asking him.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I mean, that's fair, that's fair. You know that our
phones have these things called contacts, and like you can
save his address in it. He lives on one two three.
I don't give a fuck. I'm seth road. Oh good
for you, sah, right, wouldn't that be great? Anyway? We
are about to get into it, So grab your bug
spray because this week we are taking a trip to

(13:30):
the swamp and we were talking nineteen seventy two's. I
learned this word while researching this movie Eco horror classic
frogs Ribbit.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I did everything with him I could. We got to
get that body out of there.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, well, well thanks for telling me first, I appreciate it. No,
he used Fred and the others today of all days,
and gathered when I was quite a celebration. This week
with my family is the one permanent thing left in
my life. Fifteen years ago, Nation threw me for a loss,

(14:10):
dumped me in this chair. Yeah. Four birthday in July nine.
Karen's Stuart Michael. He's celebrated together for years. We will
celebrate until I'm one hundred right here.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yes, sir, well you have my birthday Eve.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I'm sure it'll be a great day for everyone.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Did you ever watch Key and Peel? Sorry? Really, I
had a real bad brain fart there for a second.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I know your notice bleeding a little bit I've seen.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I'm gonna have to send it to you. There's I
can't remember what the name of the sketches, but there's
a specific thing that Hiccup spawn I say quite a
lot to each other at work, but it's they're on
a plane and they're talking to another person that's in
the same like three seats as them, and they're like, hey,
if a terrorist shows up on this plane, you better
get ready because we're in the combat seats. And there's

(15:11):
a part where he goes if some teraries are gonna
get a froggy and then he just goes ribbit ribbit.
That that made me think of that. Also, the best
part is what sorry, I'm just gonna keep cutting off
the whole like they go something about drags them sclounced.

(15:31):
It's something about how they're gonna get radical on a
Terry's clavicle. And oh, it's so fucking great watch those.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
It sounds vaguely familiar.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Especially, I have all like the entire series on my plaques.
If you would like to go watch it. I it's
a wildly underrated TV show if you've never seen it.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Okay, so Frogs is rated PG, which doesn't shock me.
It was filmed around late nineteen seventy two and it
was released on March tenth. Or no it was filmed
late nineteen seventy one and then released in March on
March tenth, nineteen seventy two. It's considered a horror and thriller.
It has a run time of ninety one minutes. It

(16:13):
was directed by George McCowan. It was written by Robert
Hutchinson and Robert Bleeze. It was produced by American International
Pictures and distributed by the same company. The music was
by Les Baxter, and yeah, that's all we got for
that type of details. Our cast is Ray Millan Sam Elliott,
which is the only actor I recognized.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
From this film who looks nothing like Sam Elliott that
we know because this movie came out forty years ago.
It took me half the movie to realize that that's
who that was. Y. I had to look it up.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
He's also missing his infamous stayosh.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Right, Well, this is probably like one of the first
movies he ever did.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Probably who do you think has a more powerful stash?
Sam Elliott or Leon Stein?

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Jesus Oh, Sam Elliott has a much deeper stash than
my dad. But my dad is a It's a real
like Flanders style nosed neighbor.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I love her dad and he doesn't even know it.
We got Rayland, Sam Elliott, Joan van Ark, Adam Rourke,
Judy Pace, Lynn Borden May Mercer, David Gillham, Nicholas Cortland,
George scaff and Lance Taylor. There's a couple other people,
but who fucking cares?

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Did I ever tell you? Since you brought up my
dad and this is probably one of the funniest things
I've ever heard from him.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
So one of my friends in high school because my
dad like in his basement had like workout equipment, and uh,
my buddy, his name's Grant Hill, not the basketball player
Paul White. Dude, we once to trace his hair from
the top of his head to his feet. Doesn't stop.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh my god, that I knew that, because that's how
you describe him every time you bring it. Yeah, I
love that guy, Grant Hill, very harry yep.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
He once asked me, he goes when your dad lifts,
does he look in a mirror and go Leon Leon.
So my dad came home and we were all hanging out,
and I said, hey, dad, Grant has a question for you.
And he asked and he walks up in her and
he goes, no, I go Grant Grant.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
I love that guy. See, I love him. I can't
help it.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
I don't blame you.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Some taglines for the film, If you are squeamish, stay home,
cold green skin against against soft, warm flesh. A croak,
a scream that made me uncomfortable. A tidal wave of slithering,
slimy horror, devouring, destroying all in its past. Calm down
this movie is PG. It's not even PG thirteen PG.

(18:33):
My four year old could watch this.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Do you know what movie was? Pg? Thirteen? What Poody
Tang Jesus Christ, Poody Tang Grady Pg.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Thirteen A terrifying story of times to come when nature
strikes back. It's the day that oh this is original.
It's the day that nature strikes back. Millions of slimy
bodies squirming everywhere, millions of gaping mouths, devouring, devouring, devouring, Today,
the pond, tomorrow, the world. That might be my favorite

(19:02):
one because they all sucked.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, they're all about on power. With the quality of
this movie, which you shit.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, well listen, you know, we gotta have some high
quality eco horror, which that subgenre that just name alone.
I don't know why, but it just rubs me the
wrong way. I guess everything you could figure that we're
watching is eco horror. But no, do you know the
budget for this movie maye technically no.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, it's one point nine million dollars.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Jesus Christ, that's all animal handling.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Uh, that's fourteen point five million dollars right now?

Speaker 2 (19:38):
What the fuck?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
What the fuck? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:41):
God, here's the thing. Do you know how much good
I could do with fourteen million dollars. This podcast would
be way better. Me and you would have no debt.
We'd be we'd be neighbors because I'd.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Buy a huge I'll take the debt.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
You're telling real talk. I become a millionaire, Okay, multiple
millions of dollars. I'm basically a billionaire. I buy the
biggest plot of land that I can find, and I
just do a whole family compound with all my favorite people.
You all get, how many acres do you have right now?
I would give you fifteen acres. I'd up it. I

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would have landscapers. We'd all have major acreage. Mikey would
be living on the plot all right, right, we'd all
have go karts and golf carts rather to travel traverse
to one another's homes.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I mean, you know, God, damn well, I'm down. The
last thing I want to do is work.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I mean, you might still have to work a little bit,
but you'd be able to retire way quicker.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Can my working just be like at a pizza place?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
If you whatever, you want to do, whatever you want
to do, I'm back on board. Okay, See that was easy.
So the plot of frogs. We see our buddy Pickett Smith,
who is played by the lovely Sam Elliott. He is
a freelance nature photographer photographer paddling his canoe through at
the swampy waters near a private island in the Florida Everglades.

(21:14):
Have you ever been to the Evergleads? Every want to
go to the Everglades.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
I don't really hear a lot of good happening there.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
So ooh, retracting at well, not retracting, but backing up
a little bit something else that fucks that. I don't
think that you have watched yet. Dexter Original Sin is
actually pretty goddamn good.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Around episode five. We'll probably finish it tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, I thoroughly enjoy it. It's a really nice precursor
to the whole story. Because I wasn't on board at first.
I was like, why do we need this much Dexter?
And I'm kind of feeling that way when it comes
to the new one with Michael C. Hall. I think
I'm just tired of Michael C. Hall. But the people
that they and this is just my opinion, the people
that they got to play, the younger her parts are

(22:01):
so perfect. The only one I'm not sold on is
the girl who plays Deb because I think it's really
hard to copy Jennifer Carpenter.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah. That, and it's like I have such now we're
really not even talking about frogs, but it's like, it's
it's so hard to like, I don't feel like the
character of Deb was as brash as they make her
out to be at that age. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, I think they kind of should have lightened her
up just a smidge. But I think and I don't
want to give too much away because I know some
people of some of my friends who listen to the
show who haven't started it yet because they're waiting for
it to just be complete so they can binge the
whole thing. There was a scene and I'll I'll probably

(22:48):
cut out like a couple of things, but there was
a scene in I believe it was last week's episode
because you haven't even seen it yet, where I think
it explains a lot as to why Deb is the
way that she is, so I don't have to cut
anything out because I'll just leave it at I'll just
leave it at that that. It was actually really emotional
and I was actually shocked that it it kind of

(23:10):
hit me in the heart a little bit, but either
which way frogs But yeah, dexter original sim Fox. Who
knows if the Trinity prequel is gonna fuck? Who knows
if the new fucking one was Michael C. Hall is
gonna fuck? But you know I'm here for it. I'm
gonna watch it. Whatever. So we have Pickett Smith, who
is a freelance photographer. He's in his canoe in the
Florida Everglades. He's taking photographs of pollution in the water,

(23:34):
things like discarded bottles, oil, slicks, and dead fish. He's
highlighting the environmental damage caused by us glorious humans while
he has forced it. While he is focused in his work,
a speedboat comes roaring through the swamp and it nearly
capsizes him. The boat is driven by Clint Crockett and
his sister Karen Crockett, who are enjoying a day of
fun on the water. Seeing that they almost knocked Picket

(23:57):
into the water, they pull him aboard and apologize. To
make him they invite him to their family's estate, a
grand Southern style mansion owned by their grandfather, Jason Crockett,
a wealthy boy. Upon his arrival, Pickett is introduced to
the Crockett family, who have gathered for their annual Fourth
of July celebration. Jason Crockett, an elderly but strong willed

(24:17):
man confined to a wheelchair. Wheelchair, is immediately wary of Picket,
suspecting him to be an environmental activist. Despite this, he
allows Pickett to stay as a guest. So this household
includes various family members and their spouses. We have Stuart
and his wife Mabel Michael, who is engaged to Jenny Charles,
who is the butler. Grover the family groundskeeper, Grover groundspeople,

(24:40):
groundskeeper easy to remember that I'm having a hard time
talking today. And then there's two children named Kenneth and Tina,
a lot of people whatever. Throughout the day, Pickett notices
an overwhelming presence of wildlife surrounding the estate. Frogs, snakes, lizards,
and other swamp creatures. There's something unnatural about their behavior.
They seem to be observing the humans and waiting. The

(25:02):
sounds of croaking frogs grows louder and louder as time
goes on. That evening, Grover is found dead near the greenhouse.
His body is covered in snake bites, Picket, suspicious of
the increasingly aggressive wildlife, begins investigating. He suggests that the
pollution and disruption of the natural ecosystem may have triggered
the animals to retaliate, but Jason dismisses his concerns, calling
them nonsense. Jason believes he is in control of everything,

(25:25):
including nature itself. Now, how do you feel about snakes?
Are you fearful of them?

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Uh? Yeah, I have absolutely zero interest in their existence.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
So if, like someone put a snake around your neck,
would you freak out? Like if someone had a pet
snake and they're like, here's my pet snake and they
kind of like wanted you to prose like Britney Spears,
would you be like, I'm a slave for you.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Or no, I'm not into it whatsoever. I have absolutely
no interest in that being a part of my life.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Every dude I know does not like snakes, which is
funny to me.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I didn't like grow
up outside in nature a bunch, so like I love
the insects all the.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Dark, but I hate nature.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Uh So yeah, I don't know. If if there's glass
between me and them, we're fine. Like I can look
but spiders I have a hard time looking at even
if there's.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Like fucking hate snakes.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, I don't. There was a part with spiders in
this movie and I thought of you.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, No, I didn't. I didn't watch it. I didn't
watch it. Yeah. So my girlfriend when she was in
college had a ball python that was four feet long,
and I've seen numerous pictures of her with it just
like on her around her neck. She's like, oh, yeah,
I used to fall asleep with him and I'd wake
up and he'd be like cooled around my arm and
I'm like, he could have killed you in your sleep.
She's like, no, he was like a puppy. He was

(26:46):
so sweet.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
That's the same as these people are, like I have
a pet puma. Watch me fuck with this jungle cat
and then you're surprised when it rips your face off.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, that's broke pretty much. Yeah, because I showed her
those uh when we talked about Tippy Hedron and birds
and stuff like that, I gave her the same shpiel
I gave you. She's like, I would totally be like Tippy.
I'm like, what the fuck is actually wrong with you?
That's a lion bitch, that's a lion.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Let's all go to the lobby.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Let's all go to the lobby.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Let's all go to the lobby to get ourselves a treat.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
The next day, the attacks escalate. While searching for Grover,
Michael decides to take the canoe to leave the island,
hoping to reach the mainland and call for help. Because
the phones, for whatever reason, are now dead. I wonder
if the frogs bit the phone lines. Yeah, for no
reason at all, not explained at all to my recollection.

(27:44):
The power is out.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, but like, how bad was the frog? How bad
was the frog problem on your island? That like you
didn't care that they were everywhere to begin with, and
then you only started to care and they were like
on your food.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, there was a lot, a lot of gross negligence
in this film where I would have had a red
flag up almost immediately. If a frog is staring at
me like it looks like it's gonna murder me, I'm done.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Even if it's not staring at me like it's gonna
murder me, I'm done.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, pretty much. If I'm going to Florida, I'm done.
So you know I'm gonna be having a bad time
the whole time. It's fucking humid. My hair is gonna
be frizzed out the entire goddamn time. I'm gonna be miserable.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
I tell you about the last time we went. It
was pretty sure. It was before I met you, but
Alyssa and I went to Halloween Horrnites and like the
Simpsons shit at Universal, and to do Halloween Hornites you
have to purchase a day ticket to Universal, and we
were kind of like, fuck it, if we're going, we'll go.
So we did, like the park Hopper, so we got
to ride the Hogwarts train, which was really cool.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Oh that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah, but it rained. It rained after we were at Universal,
before Halloween Hornite started. So when Halloween Hornit started, half
the shit was closed because it was wet. You can't
transfer tickets. They're just kind of like fucking sucks, I guess, yeah,
but it was. It was the end of September and
it was like eighty five in human as fuck.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
So yeah, that's miserable. The next day, the attacks escalate.
While searching for a grover, Michael decides to take the
canou to leave the island. Oh yeah, I already read
all that. As he paddles through the swamp, he suddenly
is pulled into the water by a large alligator. He screamed.
His screams echo through the trees before the water goes
still and he is gone. His absence is noted, but

(29:29):
Jason refused to let it interfere with his planned celebration.
Hey man, the Fourth of July is big in Florida.
His fucking friends and family are getting eaten by alligagers
and frogs and snakes are fucking attacking. Fuck it, God
bless America.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
So we've dealt with a town that refuses to not
celebrate love, yes, and now we have an island that
refuses to not celebrate the Fourth of Joly even when
they're being overrun by reptiles.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I mean that sounds pretty American to me. That's very Florida.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that is true. Forget that when
the pandemic started, everyone went to Florida because Florida was like, Eh,
fuck it, you're gonna die anyways.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
And then they did. Meanwhile, Stuart is hunting in the
woods when he is attacked by leeches and swerved by
giant lizards. He struggles to escape, but the leeches weaken
him very quickly, oddly quickly actually, and he collapses into
the swamp where he drowns. Now, I don't I've never
experienced a leech. Can't be a good time. But I

(30:26):
can't imagine just having a few on them and just
being like, oh my god, and then just fading away.
He must be anemic.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
I get you, brother, but right, but think about the
fact that for many years they just would put a
bunch of leeches on you to make you not sick.
So the amount of leeches on this fella isn't gonna
bring him to his knees.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
And yet here we are inside the greenhouse. Mabel goes
to gather flowers for the party, unaware that the place
is crawling with deadly creatures. Suddenly, lizards knocking over to
toxic chemicals off of shelves. It's causing them to spill
and fumes to go into the air. The glass walls
trap her inside, and she chokes to death as the

(31:09):
reptiles watch silently, Like every when I saw this scene,
I just kept thinking of that gif that I send
everybody all the time of the fucking laughing lizard like
them watching her, Like yeah, we know. If we knock
over these fucking really toxic chemicals, this bitch is gonna suffocate.
But we're not.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Like what Hiccupspus sends me all the time.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Karen, increasingly panicked by the disappearances of every fucking person,
urges the family to leave, but Jason remains defiant, refusing
to abandon his estate. He insists that the deaths are coincidental,
dismissing the idea that the animals are intentionally attacking. These
deaths are just normal. It's worth of July. We're gonna celebrate.
Don't worry, Karen, It's okay. Later, Jenny is alone in

(31:55):
the woods for whatever fucking reason, and she's attacked by snakes.
She tries to escape, but is strangled and bitten to death. Simultaneously,
Charles the Butler disappears without a trace, you know, by
Charles realizing that staying means certain fucking death. At this point,
Pickett takes control. He convinces Clinton Karen that the need
they need to escape with the children. However, Clint insists

(32:17):
on trying to find Michael first. While searching, he is
ambushed by venomous snakes and dies from multiple bites. Meanwhile, Tina,
one of the children, is playing outside when she is
suddenly swarmed by a group of tarantulas. She screams in
terror as they cover her body, biting her multiple times.
Though she survives, she's left traumatized. I did not watch
the scene at all. I don't know what happens. This

(32:37):
is the first time I even know what happened in
that scene, because the second I saw that creepy crawley fuck,
I was done. Spiders are the fucking worst. And I'm
really mad at Instagram because I mentioned this out loud
and my phone was listening, and now Instagram keeps showing
me reels of these cuckoo bitches who are making adorable

(32:58):
little habitats for their looking tarantula's and I hate it.
I hate it so much. Spiders are probably one of
my biggest fears. As Picket gathers the survivors, another horror
unfold inside the mansion. Mabel's son Iris is trapped in
her bedroom with a dozen birds crashing through the windows

(33:18):
and peck her to death. At this point, so many
family members are dead. Picket takes Karen, Kenneth, and Tina
and they head for the boats. They manage to escape
the island through the foggy swamp, listening to the unrelenting
croaking of frogs. The survivors finally reach the mainland, where
they find an elderly woman and her grandson, oblivious to
the chaos that has him folded. However, a single frog

(33:40):
sits ominously nearby, indicating that the ecological uprising is not
isolated to the island. Back at the mansion, Jason remains alone.
He sits still, refusing to believe that nature has turned
against him. In his study, he drinks his whiskey and
grumbles about his ungrateful family, which you know ninety percent
of them are dead at this point, but you know,
fuck them. The croaking grows deafening, filling the house with

(34:02):
an unbearable noise. Suddenly, frog enters. Frogs begin entering the room,
leaping onto his lap, his arms, and his chest. Jason
looks around in horror as more and more frogs invade,
though the attack itself is never explicitly shown or and
is not fully clear at fucking all. Jason is either
suffocated poison, or dies of sheer terror as the amphibians

(34:24):
take over his estate.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Why not all three.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Exactly like, I know that there are frogs out there
that are so poisonous that if you even touch them,
you get a reaction and like are paralyzed.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
To please, I don't want to be paralyzed. I just
want sweet death.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
There it is. The season has just started, and you
have already asked for sweet death at least three times.
And this is our third episode.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
It's probably it's probably twice twice an episode. I would
say one to two times an episode. I will not
let anyone down and it will continue to keep up
the average.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Oh good, I'm really happy for you being sad. See boy,
I want to talk to someone about that.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
I have therapy on Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
There it is. Therapy is good, folks do it. As
Pickett and the others move further from the island, the
eerie silence is broken only by the sound of frogs croaking.
The film ends on a disturbing note, leaving the audience
audience allegedly with the unsettling realization that nature's rebellion is
far from over. So, Matt, I am curious, would this

(35:27):
be a yay, nay or sleigh for you? Now, let's
just remind the audience because we did in the last
two episodes. Yay, is you enjoyed it? You would watch
it again perchance if you didn't, you know whatever, but
you're happy you watched it. Nay is meh, I'll never
watch it again. But whatever indifference sligh fucking why was

(35:49):
this movie made?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
I am offended and upset that you made me watch
this movie. I would have been better off never knowing
that it existed. I could have spent those ninety minutes
giving myself a rectal exam, and it would have been
better spent than watching this fucking god awful movie, in

(36:11):
which I worked harder at my day job in the
ninety minutes. This was on than I probably have in
two weeks because I didn't want to watch this movie.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
So we have reached a fourth option, offended as slay
or offended. I love it. I'm adding it right now
to the template.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I mean, tell me I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Here's the thing. This whole show is based off of
getting you to watch movies that you would never watch.
So well for me, if I had to, if I
had to rate this movie based on your reaction, it's
a yay for me. The movie itself is a nay.
I'm never gonna watch it again. I don't hate it.
I'm very indifferent to it because I can see where

(36:56):
people would be uncomfortable. It made me uncomfortable in certain
spots because I don't particularly care for lizards in general.
They get they skied me out, and some of them
scare me. Bearded dragons actually fucking horrify me. If one
came near me, I'd probably kick it, and they would
just be a reaction. I wouldn't mean it, you know,
Pete don't come for me. I love animals, but I
get very fearful a spider comes near me. I'm going

(37:19):
to Harry Carey myself, and it's that we're done so
in that aspect. That's why it doesn't get a sleigh
for me. Because it did what it was supposed to do.
I made me uncomfortable, and like, I didn't watch the
spider scene because I don't like spiders. I'm never gonna
watch a rack noophobia or eight legged freaks or anything
with a mate. I'm never gonna do it, never.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Gonna do a rachnophobia like it creeps me out too,
So I don't I do not blame you.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
No not gonna do it because no, I really love
the fourth option, so offended and a nay. So that
that there you go. I love how this show is
ever evolving.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
So when you were talking about how you you try
to pick movies just to make me have a bad time.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Not a bad time, just movies that you wouldn't particularly
watch on your own. This was suggested to me fair enough.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
So I know a couple people that will like, oh, hey,
I watched this movie. You should watch this movie. And
I have to be like, hey, I am forced to
watch a movie that I probably otherwise never would once
a week, like, I only have so much time and
so much energy, probably never gonna watch this.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
But thanks, and you love me most so. The next
segment is another new favorite of mine. Would we survive? Matt?
Do you think you would survive an uprising of Frog's
Lizard and Tarantlas of the sort?

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah? So in this situation of this movie, I would
survive because I would just leave the island.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Oh yeah, I would survive because I'd never be in Florida.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Well yeah, in July. Step one is I wouldn't be
in Florida. If I hit a guy on my boat,
I wouldn't ask him to get on it. And then
go to his weird private island. If I then found
out shit was going on with reptiles, I wouldn't stick around.
There's just a lot of ways that I would have
got not of this.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, I mean, on the whole, it's such a weird
setup because it's I mean, maybe it's because it's the
seventies and people maybe were more trustworthy then. But if
someone almost killed me with their boat, I wouldn't be like, hey,
come to my private island and celebrate Fourth of July.
I'd be like, no, Like a lot.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Of people in the seventies were probably less likely to
trust a stranger because that was a lot more like
stranger danger. Don't get into windowless vans, and when you
offered candy.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I'd say yes and no. Nineties, I feel like obviously
with children, you wouldn't be like, hey, kid, come to
my private island. Like this was a full grown adult man. Jesus,
this is a full grown adult man who was like, yeah,
you almost capsized me and drown me, but yeah, I'll
come hang out.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Nintendo little boy, well now we.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Know your tricks, but yeah, like I just I don't know.
I just want to be left alone, Like a majority
of the time.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Also, I'm pretty sure if I offered a child Nintendo,
he would just go okay, Boomer and walk away, and
then I would be forced to murder a child.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I'd bail you out or at least visit you. Yeah,
he had a point.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Wait that I'm a boomer or that the kid was
worth getting murdered for.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
We'll let you decide. I'd send you care packages. Don't
you worry. I'd put money in your commissary. All right,
we're gonna move into our next sime. No, we got
monster minuches.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
There's only a few. Many of the five hundred Florida
frogs and one hundred South African cane toads purchased for
use in this film escaped during production.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Even they didn't want to deal with this movie.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Get me the fuck out. Ray Millen wore a two
pay throughout the film. He sweated so much that it
fell off his head several times. Just Embrace the Ball.
Due to the film's low budget, no live birds were
used for the bird a tack scene in it. Stock
footage of flying birds were superimposed over footage of the
running cast. In a review for Andy Warhol's interview writer

(40:58):
fran Lebowitz called this film the best bad movie I
have ever seen in my life. I won't go that far.
I enjoyed Saturday the fourteenth far more than that. Was
like the best bad movie I've ever seen?

Speaker 3 (41:11):
What year was that comment made? Because that will.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Oh, I have not. The large black and white lizards
that attack Kenneth in the greenhouse are Argentine black and
white tigis. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right.
Don't come for me, a species native to South America.
Several get gos and iguanas were also used for the scene.
Iris was originally supposed to have been killed by being
forced into a quicksandpool of giant butterflies and then drown.

(41:37):
The scene was shot, but was considered too silly for
the film's final print and thus cut. It was then
reshot to have Iris killed by being bit by a
rattlesteak and rattlesnake instead. Clips of the original scene of
Iris's death do appear in the film's theatrical trailer, but
they were not used. Could you imagine death by butterfly?
How fucking weak are you?

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Well?

Speaker 3 (41:56):
And that's the thing like how is that even possible.
I don't think it's possible, to be perfectly honest, The.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Film's ending implies that the island incident was not an
isolated one, and that the apocalyptic animal revolution had begun
had already begun on the mainland as well. The movie
is not only about frogs being a threat. Despite the title,
they seem for the most for most of the picture,
the silent generals pointing the way. That is, until the ending,

(42:23):
Kill them, kill them, Like what the frogs are the generals?
If any fucking lizard was gonna be the general, it
would be the goddamn alligators. Who we fucking kid in
right now?

Speaker 3 (42:34):
You're trying to justify dumb decisions.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
They always try to justify dumb decisions.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
No, no, no, that's your that's what makes you my special friend.
I just it was. It was dumb, and then they
were like, holy shit this. So the problem is is
they thought it was gonna be great. No one makes
a movie and releases it without thinking that it's gonna
be something great. They thought it was gonna be some
sort of groundbreaking shit, and it was just fucking dog.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Dick pooh poo, pee pee poo.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Poo pee pee poo poo pee Pepe is better than
this movie.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
True, there is relief in that. Yeah, that was my
last minute because I fucking I don't fucking like it.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
I don't want to continue to talk about this movie anymore.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Well, it's a good thing that we're done. We're over,
it's done.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
It's okay. Say even if you just this is how
the episode Ends's me just saying I don't want to
talk about it anymore. We can, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Well, I have to outro a little bit. So thanks
for hanging out with us as we hopped through frogs. Nah,
I'm going.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
To get another beer. You finished this episode.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Join us next time as we watch nineteen seventy threes,
which you know. I have to be honest, Matt's not
here right now, but I'm pretty sure he has his
Bluetooth headphones on so he can hear me. I don't
think that's gonna be much better, to be quite frank,
I've watched half of it already. Listen, guys, the season's

(43:54):
gonna start out rough, and then we're gonna hit a
high peak and then it's just going to keep getting
better from here. You gotta you gotta crawl before you
can run, you know. So Yeah, thank you so much
for enjoying joining us on this episode of Monster manas
we love you. Matt's not here, it's just me bye.

(44:16):
Take it. You've got to help us.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
We don't know what to do. Well, I know what
to do, and we're going to do it. That's because
of one death, an accident. There's no reason for everybody
to panic.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
To death, mister Crockett, to very strange deaths.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Who will What did you see? Rover is dead?

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Found me yesterday?

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Why didn't you tell us?

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Because I thought it best not to. Didn't want to
spoil your day, woesday.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
What happened to him? He was in the swamp, been
hit by as snake? Is that another accident?

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Grandpa?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Is that another coincidence?

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Karen and everybody, this conversation has ended.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
No, it isn't.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Look I don't know what's going on around here or
if it's happening anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
We're a bunch of damn fools.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
We don't face the fact that we're in a hell
of a lot of trouble and we're gonna have to
get together to fight its sh

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