Jaws (1975)

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Well, hey there, folks, Just like how only you can
prevent forest fires, only you can prepare yourself for what's
ahead on this podcast. But before we hike into the
woods of horror films and all the terrifying tales they tell,
you should know that on this show, we'll be taking
a deep dive into some of your favorite scary movies.
But be warned there will be spoilers hidden behind every

(00:26):
tree stump. So if you haven't seen the movie we're
talking about, well you should probably circle on back to
the trailhead partner. Not only that, but things can get
a little let's say explicit.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Around here.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
You'll hear strong language, and those opinions of ours, oh,
they can be as sharp as a bear's fangs. So remember,
only you can decide if you're ready for the journey ahead.
So stick around if you're prepared to face all those
spoilers and listen to all that strong language and entertain
some seriously bold takes.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Otherwise, tread lightly.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Hard.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
You all know me, know how I earn a living.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
I'll catch this bird for you, but it ain't gonna
be easy.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Bad fish. I'd like going down.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
The palm, chasing blue girls and Tommy.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Cots this shark swallow you whole Shacon and horizon down
you go, and we gotta do it quick and don't
bring back the tourists and put all your businesses on
a fade basis.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
But it's not gonna be pleasant.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
I value my neck a lot more than three thousand bucks.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Chief.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
I'll find him for three, but I'll catch him and
kill him for ten. And you're gonna make up your minds.
I'm gonna stay alive and Auntie up. I want to
play a cheap young welfare of the whole window. I
don't want to no volunteers, I don't want no mates.
There's too many captains on this island. Ten thousand dollars

(02:25):
for me by myself, so that you get the head
tail the whole damn thing. Thank you very much, mister Quinn.

Speaker 7 (02:40):
We'll we'll take.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
It under a bike.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Hi, Hello, and welcome to this week's episode of Monster Man.
It is a podcast that it came to all sorts
of creatures, features and beyond. I'm Erica and joined with
me is a man who refuses to go into the
water without a bigger boat, my co host Matt.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Hi. Matt, it's because of bolus. I just I can't swim.
I don't know how to tread water.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
You can keep yourself afloat if you tried. I'm assuming.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I mean yeah, because I'm of heft.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
That's not how that works.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
First came to shove. I just do not know how
to stand still and treadwater.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
The doggy paddle works, my friend, don't downplay the doggy paddle.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
I could. I can swim, I cannot stay in place
tread and water. I can't. I can get from A
to B. I would lose my shit if I tried.
It's uh. I'm very very unsure of everything that I do.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
In life, especially when water is involved. Well, anyway, you
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(03:54):
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links for the aforemened things. Well, we posted in our
show notes. So do you have anything this week that
has he beat your crickety fuck Jimmy's cheese kurts.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I got some of those. Those always those consistently fucked.
They're part of my life and they will never not
be part of my life. Beers pretty great. I'm going
to have a lot of those on account of the
world falling apart and yeah, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, sorry, no, you're totally good. Uh cat Quest two
and like a strange one, has he beat my GB's
cat Quest. I love those games because you can play
them and fully immerse yourself and pay attention to the story.
But you can also not like I was playing it

(04:46):
on my portal earlier because I was trying to grind
to like level up, which is so easy to do.
They do not make it difficult at all to level up.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I do remember leveling very easy in the second and
the f third one, but I know in three you
can level a lot higher. You don't have to, you can.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, I've been playing cat Quest two because I beat
cat Quest one last year and then I was like, okay,
I need to take a break from that. I get it,
it's gonna be more of the same, and I just
I want something different. So I picked it up because
I was like, Okay, I just beat Life is Strange
one and two. Let's have like a little palate cleanser

(05:25):
that will take me literally a day to beat within
two days on like level seventy five, it's great. You
just everything you do, it's like, oh fucking you get
a level, You get a level, you get a level.
It's great. Life Is Strange one was really good. I
enjoyed that a lot. I don't think you would enjoy it.
I mentioned that on a previous show. I think because
there's just a shit ton of reading. You have to

(05:48):
read everything or you're not gonna know what the fuck's
going on, which, yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
No I'm not. I don't think I'm up for that
anymore of these days. Like I started Avowed, which is
the new Blizzard it it feels a lot like Skyrim,
which I didn't care for, but it's on game Pass,
so I gave it a shot.

Speaker 7 (06:07):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I think Jackie mentioned that she mentioned that she was
downloading that today actually on game Pass.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, there was just a shit on a story that
I didn't give a fuck about. But also I didn't
want I don't I didn't want to give a fuck
about it. Yeah, whereas like games like Alan Wake, like those,
I care about the story and all that other shit,
so like I would read that happily.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I I didn't get far in the first Alan Weak,
not because I didn't like it, but because I got scared.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
It's uh, it's very jumpy. The second one is a
little more psychological and less jumpy.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
But yeah, yeah, I've been told that you literally don't
even need to play the first one to play the
second one.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Not necessarily, no.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
But I've been waiting for the second one to go
on like super sale because I know that by the
end of this year it'll be like seven dollars.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well yeah, because all the DLC's out for it.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, so I want to play.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Well, no, I don't like that it's not Alan in them.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
But I do have a grievance though about the life
is Strange games. So I love the first one. The
second one I was so humped for because I everything
about the first one. I really enjoyed. I enjoyed the story,
the twists. I audibly was like, what the fuck at
one point because they got me on a really solid twist.

(07:19):
I love the ability that you have the music in
it is really solid. You wouldn't care about the music
at all because it's not your vibe, but it just
everything blended in really well and somatically and all that stuff.
And then I was I go into Life is Strange too.
I'm vibing with it as it goes on. The characters
were so insufferable to me that it just ruined it.

(07:40):
The storyline could have been really great if they made
the characters actually fucking likable. But according to like reviews
and shit, a lot of people loved this fucking game,
and I was, like, I just I could not get
into it. So that's a grievance right there that that
did not he be my GBI's, but the first one did.
There's two more. I think Life is Strange double exposure

(08:01):
and Life is strange something else, but I'm not.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Sure since we're just talking about video games. A game
that shockingly he beat my GBS. A game about digging
a hole.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Hey man, it's the simplest things.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
You literally the premises that you buy a house because
they're told that there's treasure in the backyard, and you
start digging and then you level up your digging and
you find shit along the way and you just dig
a big fucking hole. I beat it in like four hours,
but it was like five dollars. What's it called a
game about digging a hole?

Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's what it's called. Amazing YEP.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
So it reminded me very much, and I was doing
some googling to try to figure out what some of
the achievements are because they're all hidden, and one was
a guy He's like, I literally cleared everything. It's like,
that's a fucking feat right there, Like because when I
realized you just have to go straight down towards the end,
I just went straight down. Yeah, but you get like
a fucking jet pack and shit, and it's yeah, it's

(08:57):
it was fun. For some reason, I thought it was
a horror game and then yeah, well that's.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Like people say that, like The Stanley Parable is a
horror game, and I was like, there's nothing scary about
that game. Existential dread maybe, but hard. I have enough
existential dread in my daily life that I'm desensitized.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I haven't played it yet. It's on my wish list.
What she told me once it goes on her like
ten bucks that I needed to get, So.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I'm yeah, I think it's definitely worth it, guy, because
I could still continue to keep playing it because I
think it has Like I don't want to say anything
because I don't want to ruin it.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
But either which I I'll forget. So you're fine if
you want to say something, say something.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I don't want to say anything because I want other
people to play it too.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well, Okay, tou che salesman.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I love ridiculous games like the a game about digging
a hole, like I just downloaded. I haven't played it
yet because it came out literally ten years ago. But
it's a game called I Am Bread and You Are
just a slice of Bread. My cousin Andrew played a
game that Jackie sent me a video clip of. It's
I forget. I think it's like Squirrel with a gun. Yeah,

(10:00):
just a squirrel with a fucking gun.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I own that game.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
It is actually quite a bit of fun. It just
kind of like got like you, there's no hand holding,
so it's like I don't really know what to do next. No,
I want just run around as a squirrel with a
fucking gun.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, that's kind of like the Stanley parable, there is
no handholding. Will No, there is a lot of hand holding,
but there's also nothing.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
I don't require handholding at all times. I just sometimes
need like a push in the direction in which I
need to be going to progress.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
And that's again back why I love cat Quest too
is that they have an arrow pointing to me exactly
where I need to go. There are no questions.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well that's what I'm saying. So it's like, I don't
dislike hand holding, but it's a if I'm going to
enjoy a game, I'd like some. I don't want to
get stuck not knowing what to do because of how
you fucking do your shit.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah. I can't think of what game it is, but
one game that it took me a while to get into.
And I know you we've talked about this before. You
do not like this game. But Minecraft, they don't tell
you or give you any directives at the fuck all,
at least to my knowledge. When I played it, I
was like, is there like a fucking tutorial? Because I
have no idea what I'm doing. I'm just punching a tree.

(11:15):
But then eventually, you know, I hooked up with my
cousin and she showed me how to play it and
I learned. But either which way, video games t be
my GBS. I love them quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Since we're still talking about video games, there was a
turn teenage Mutant Naja Turtles addition for a Call of
Duty Solid. If you want all of the skins for
all the players, each one comes with their own bundle.
It's like ninety fucking dollars.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Jesus, Yes, well, I mean you didn't buy those eggs so.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Well.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Anyway, those he beat our gbs. Let us know if
you have anything that he beats your gbs. It can
be anything, literally anything. Email us at monstramanspod at gmail
dot com or dm us on all the socials. Let
us know what you're vibing with. What are you playing
right now? What are you reading? Because I have a
book to talk about along with this movie, unfortunately, but

(12:11):
let's get into it first. This week on Master Vans,
we are diving into the movie that made us afraid
to go into the water. We're talking nineteen seventy five's Jaws.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
Slower ahead, I can go slower ahead.

Speaker 8 (12:26):
Come on down and jump some of this shit.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
You're gonna need a bigger proach.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Jaws is rated PG because in nineteen seventy five, apparently
PG thirteen didn't exist. Backup, Yeah, apparently in nineteen seventy five,
PG thirteen did not exist, So this movie is rated PG.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Huh. I feel like they would have just went R.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
But okay, I'm pretty sure on my listing, I trust
your work plex even it still says PG, which shocks
the shit out of me. No, fucking yeah, it didn't
exist in nineteen seventy five. I don't know when.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
PG thirteen was added in July first, nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Wild See You're all learning shit. It was filmed from
May second, nineteen seventy four to October sixth, nineteen seventy four.
It was released on June twentieth, nineteen seventy five. This
movie came about because of a novel that came out
in nineteen seventy four by the same title Jaws. It
falls into the genre of thriller, horror, and adventure. It
has a runtime of one hundred and twenty four minutes.

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Is directed by Steven Spielberg. We have writing credits for
Peter Benchley, who wrote the novel and took part in
writing the screenplay, as well as Carl Gottlieb, which thank
God for Carl, because I have a lot of things
to say about that fucking book, because I read it
this week in prep for this fucking recording, and oh

(14:08):
my god. It was produced by like we talked about
in Zenook and Brown Productions, it was distributed by Universal Pictures,
and the music is done by the infamous and famous
John Williams, which this movie pretty much kickstarted his true success.
I would say this is what really put him on

(14:30):
the map. We have special effects by Robert A. Maddy
Hey he did the mechanical shark, and Joe Alves who
did shark models and other production designs. The main cast.
I'm only getting to name a few because there's quite
a few people in this movie. We've got roych Schneider. Yeah,
I feel like there should be an end in there,
but it's not. But no relation.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Not Rob Scheider, not Rob Schneider.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay, I thought I spelt it wrong. Yeah, Roy Scheiger.
I was like, there, why is there an endin there?
I was like, that's not right, and then I was
like I was.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Questioning, sorry, no, no, no, no, you're not one hundred percent wrong.
Listed under other names Roy R. Scheider and Roy.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Schneider See my whole life is a lie.

Speaker 8 (15:17):
I don't know Roy, You're a fucking fake Roy.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Who are you? Roy Scheiger or Roy Schneiger? However you
want to say it?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah? No, wonder you only one? You were nominated for
two Academy Awards, one Golden Blow and one BAFTA. Who
gives a fuck about Bafta? Spell your name right, bitch? Wow?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
We got Robert Shaw, Richard Dreyfus, Lorraine Gray, and Murray Hamilton.
Some taglines. There is a shit ton of taglines for
this film, So fucking get comfy. Amity Island had everything
clear skies, gentle surf, warm water. People flock there every summer.
It was the perfect feeding ground.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Did they flock there like the sounds of Capistrano?

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Jesus Christ?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
All right, I'll see you later.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
The nation number one best selling novel is now the
year's most terrifying movie. That one pisses me off a lot.
I really want to talk about the book, but we
haven't gotten there yet. On fourth of July, Fishing Season
will open on You hate that one. If you forget
what Terror was like, it's back. See what you missed

(16:20):
the first time after you closed.

Speaker 8 (16:21):
Your eyes on you sorry, all right.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
On you orta do with Jaws? We're halfway through. There
is a creature alive today which has survived millions of
years of evolution, without change, without passion, without logic. It
lives to kill. A mindless eating machine. It will attack
and devour anything. Try to imagine meeting the devil with jaws.

(16:47):
Who is putting that on a fucking poster? There is
a great white man eating shark hanging around these parts.
The Terrifying motion picture from the Terrifying number one bestseller
When the beaches open this summer, you will be taken.
She was the first. Dot dot dot? Who will be next?
Do you like fish? Well, he likes you too, dot

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dot dot. If you want to survive fishing season, don't
go in the water. See it before you go swimming.
And lastly, thank god, you'll never go in the water again.
That's the only one that I would be like, Okay,
put it on the poster. The other ones are fucking novella.
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
I don't know. Do you think people knew like the
weight of what was happening when this movie came out?
When it came out, because like the I was gonna
shit on like all this these grandiose, like long, stupid
taglines that no one gives a fuck about when it
came out because people probably were just like, oh, here's
a movie about a shark. Like they didn't really you
know what I'm saying, Like, when a new movie comes out,

(17:50):
you don't really know how big it's gonna be, even
though at this point everyone hypes up every movie as
being the scariest movie or the best movie or whatever
the fuck. Back in the seventies, they didn't really do that.
They didn't have to.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Well, here's the thing which really shocks me, because I
just googled real quickly because like I said, and we
can just kind of get the book stuff out of
the way real quick because we all listen, if you
haven't seen Jaws, stop this show right now.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Reassess your life.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, there's that. It was a nice way of saying,
reassess your life and watch Jaws, because Jaws is a
great movie. If you're not a horror fan, it doesn't matter,
it's just quit essential watching. So when I talk about
the book right now, I'm spoiling fucking everything in that
book because it was trash. But what were you going
to say before I get into my die tribe.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
You really threw me for a loop there. The book
was bad, It's awful. Okay, we'll circle back. So, like
I need to point out the fact that and I
don't know how to I don't know how to say
the name of the brewery because there's a bunch of
letters put together that do not make sense. But there
was the beer that he was drinking. Fuck, I'm pretty
sure it was Richard Dreyfus's character camera whoever's.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Crushing the narraganset.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yes, so there's a brewery there near did for it
must have been the four thirtieth anniversary ten years ago.
Feels too long because this will be sorry, fortieth anniversary,
because this will be the fiftieth. In June, they did
the brewery did a Jaws themed can and packaging for

(19:24):
their just straight lager beer because he was he was
drinking it in the whole.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
So it's like this movie transcends like just horror and
pop culture at the time, like even breweries and shit
are doing stuff. So like it's fucking yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Mean even if you haven't even seen it. Everybody knows
the line You're gonna need a bigger boat. Everybody knows
that line. Everybody knows the those two notes, those infamous
two notes. So apparently after just googling, because I did
not before, the book was extremely popular before the movie
came out, which shocks me because here's it started off

(20:03):
on a really great foot because when the book opens,
it opens just like the movie, just you know, certain
things are you know, changed. The girl is still swimming
in the water and all that jazz. She doesn't get
pulled under, and she's like, what the fuck's going on?
She gets her foot bitten off, and she's her body's

(20:24):
still not registering that the foot's gone. And it talks
about how she's feeling, and she feels like the bone
of her ankle, and then she starts panicking and then
she starts getting bull rushed by this shark. What's interesting
when they describe the attacks because literally Brucie, which is
what we'll name call the shark in the book as

(20:44):
well as the movie, they describe his feelings a little bit,
and it's really interesting, like when Alex gets attacked, because
that's also in the book. It talks about how the
shark rams him in the stomach so he can't and
that's why nobody really noticed that Alex was taken alive,

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like every victim of a shark attack usually so right
off the bat. This book came out in nineteen seventy four.
It is not PC. I was actually gonna do my
own episode on this, but it's just I don't want
to because it really devolved for me. I can deal
with non PC terminology. I understand it was a different time.
People talked a different way, they treated people differently. It's

(21:27):
not right, but I understand why. It's very common, especially
in New England. But in the book, Martin Brody and
his wife Ellen are pretty much in a loveless marriage.
There's no affection with them at all. Really, he wants
to fuck her all the time and she's like, I
don't want to fuck you. I just took a sleeping pill. Basically,
where the book really devolved for me is so like

(21:50):
I just said, Ellen and Brody loveless marriage. She really
just can't stand him. He makes an effort like he
realizes he acts like a douchebag, and he tries I
feel like, but then Matt Hooper, who is played by
Richard Dreyfus in the movie Comes Along, and she in
the book is an islander. So she knew his older

(22:14):
brother and dated him for like two years, and he
was like ten years younger than them, but she remembered him.
And eventually they meet up for lunch because she's plotting
to have an affair with him, and during their lunch
conversation and this is a trigger warning for you know,
essay and all that stuff, because this book took like
such a weird turn. Peter Benchley talks about sexual assault

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in this book numerous times. Right out the gate, he
talks about a sheriff who's reading a book about this
girl who's getting sexually assaulted. And then at the lunch
Ellen and Hooper are talking about the fact that she
has a rape fantasy and then they re enact it
because she cheats on Brody with Matt and Hooper dies.

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In the book by the Shark, Brody Kogali finds out
about the affair. It's just a cat gets murdered by
the townsfolk because Brody wants to shut down the beaches.
It it was just not good. Quin lives. Quinn is
like pretty much the only character in this that book
that pretty much stayed the same, just like this sassy

(23:19):
older fisherman who doesn't give a fuck really about anybody.
He just wants to catch the shark and kill the shark.
But it was just it was really not good. This
movie is a perfect example of when you get a
garbage story and you make it way better, way better.
So if I'm never the person that's like, watch the movie,

(23:43):
don't read the book. No, no, no, no, with this one,
watch the movie, do not read the book.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, in most cases, you he're someone that's like, oh,
the book was way better. So while you were talking,
because I was curious, I did some googling. Literally, the
second Google result is a Reddit post that said shocked
to just how awful the novel is compared to the movie. Yeah,
and it's like the first chapter is really good and
then it just is bad. And this person's like, oh,
it's my favorite movie of all time. Started the book
and I was just really disappointed. I'm not much for

(24:09):
a book person. If you've been listening to this the
entire time, you know very well why. Although we're rolling
up upon the lawnmong seasons. So maybe I'll take in
a book or two. So it kind of sucks because
reading is far more popular. I shouldn't say anymore. At
one point it was far more popular than watching movies.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Now I hear that we're gonna put like in the
dialogue of TV shows and movies, people are gonna say
what they're doing in case you're doing something else, like,
how fucking far have we fallen? And as someone who
is very guilty of watching something like on my phone
while watching a movie, that's my fault if I miss it.
I can remind if I miss something, don't spoon feed me.

(24:50):
Everyone needs to reassess their fucking lives.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Oh yeah, I mean this whole world is basically turning
into the fucking movie Wally, where we're just gonna be
like floating chair, massively overweight and just not understanding the
function of anything.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yes, to quote, because we have not talked about friend
of the show Seth yet this episode. To quote my
good friend Seth movement is a gift.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
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your next round of anal beads.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
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holding only the top one percent of ass bead holders
are going to be able to take in movement is
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Speaker 2 (25:33):
It just coiled at.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Jesus, you know, we as fucked up as it is
of a conversation to have. If we did this and
someone was able to stuff them inside their rectum, we
would go viral. Someone do it.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Give us book a World Records.

Speaker 8 (25:51):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
If you're an anal be manufacturer and you can put
letters on each one, get at us.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yes, please do.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I'm taking out stock and anal beads. We're gonna get
in rouge, Matt.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Is there a budget?

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Oh yes, nine million dollars, which today is fifty three
point three million box office four hundred and seventy six million.
Now we gotta do a little fudging here because the
calculator doesn't go up that I have four hundred seventy
Wait wait wait, yeah, four seventy sixty five box office

(26:27):
is four hundred and seventy six point five million, ye,
which right now would equates to eight hundred and ninety
six point seven million dollars.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Worthy.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Absolutely, But it's wild to think about the fact that,
I mean, there were a couple of movies that did
a billion dollars stretch. Yes, but it's like, if you
equated this movie coming out now as opposed to what
people paid for a movie, then two hundred percent of
this thing would have shattered every fucking box office record
non to ma mm hmm. So which is worth it?
It's such a it's such a fucking staple of a movie. Yeah,

(27:01):
really is. I mean there aren't many people that you
hear of that, even people who don't like horror movies
like Jaws. Yeah, there was fucking multiple video games dumbiston
tendo game known to man, but there was a video game.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Shit, that's right. Yeah, I mean, it's a fucking institution.
It's literally just and I can't, I can't say enough
good things about it. So let's get into the plot,
because the plot's a little bit long, because you know,
I stole I wrote, I still I wrote. It's how
we do it here. The film opens at night on
Amity Island. It is a small, idyllic New England beach

(27:38):
town gearing up for its busy summer tourist season. There
is a young woman named Chrissy who leaves the beach
a beach bonfire party with a drunken young man, and
she runs ahead of him. They decide they are going
to go skinny dipping in the dark ocean. She floats peacefully,
but then an unseen force suddenly yankster underwater. She resurfaces, screaming,

(27:59):
thrashing violently as something beneath the surface drags her back
and forth. Her screams go unanswered as the young man
has passed out on the beach. After a few agonizing moments,
she's pulled under for the final time, vanishing without a trace.
The next morning, Amney's police chief, Martin Brody, a former
New York City cop who moved to the island for
a choirter life, is called to the beach for a missing.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Girl right near beach.

Speaker 8 (28:24):
Boy, are you have.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
You ever been to the beach? I'm not even trying
to be an asshole. You're literally from Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
To find beach. Before I make my next statement.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
I'm talking like literal ocean and sand at ocean.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
No, but I grew up on Lake Michigan.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
That's what I'm saying. It's like I grew up next
to Lake Michigan. Like we used to for fun, we
would cruise by the lake. There was a street that
followed the beach and we would just drive up and
down it for fun. I went to the Fourth of
July fireworks every year of high school at the beach
which Schwellian's Beach was featured on ESPN two for some

(29:03):
boat racing this summer. Oh it's Schawillgan's literally called the
Malibu of the Midwest because of the surfing. There's a
huge did you surfing competition? It's fucking wild. I grew
up down the street from a professional surfer who is
also my manager at PICKENSAF. So that tells you how
much money they make. Wow.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
A lot of information in a short amount of time.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
We call it information.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Bukaki there it is. Uh yeah, I've I have seen,
touched and been to the beach, seen the ocean, swam
in the ocean. It's terrifying. Uh yeah, I was curious
about that when I was writing my notes. I literally
have a note that says, ask Matt if he's ever
been to like an actual beach.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
But yes, like I've been to Galveston, Texas, which is
an ocean city, So like I have seen I saw
the golf of what do they call it? Now spaceball
spaceballs of golf, I think is what we're calling it
these days. But yeah, I've seen the ocean. I've been
to San Francisco. I've been to Galveston. I fucking was

(30:01):
on a boat next to the Statue of Liberty for
Kevin's wedding.

Speaker 8 (30:05):
Okay, fair, I'm just reliving all.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
This and being like, holy shit, I've been more coasts
than I thought I have.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
Veteran, we have been on the ocean.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
God damn it, son of a.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Bitch World Traveler US Continental Traveler.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
So At Deputy leads Brody and the young man to
a gruesome sight. They find Chrissy's remains washed up on
the shore. Her mangled torso is ravaged by something they
don't know, but it's currently being eaten by a lot
of crabs. The town's corner initially attributes her death to
a shark attack. Concerned for public safety, Brody quickly prepares

(30:43):
to close the beaches, but Amney's Mayor Larry intervenes. With
the lucrative fourth of July tour season approaching, Vaughan pressures
the corner to amend the cause of death to a
boating accident, dismissing Brodie's concern about a shark. Continuing to
ignore Brody's warnings, the town's beaches remain open. Families, tourists,
all those people are at the shore. It is summertime,

(31:04):
fourth of July. Brody now is deeply concerned, and he
patrols the beach, but hesitates to act. Suddenly, a young
boy named Alex Kintner, who, funnily enough, his name is
in real life Jeffrey voorhis paddles on his inflatable raft.
Without warning, the water beneath him churns, and he is
violently pulled under his raft, bursting in a geyser of blood.

(31:28):
A chilling silence follows as onlookers process what has happened.
Alex's devastated mother later posts a three thousand dollars bounty
for the capture of the shark, causing a frenzy among
fishermen and bounty hunters. Now I want to take a
pause right here, because this scene probably has one of
the most iconic shots in film history. It is Brody
sitting in his beach chair and they do something called

(31:49):
a dolly zoom, which basically the camera is zooming in
at the same time while physically moving backwards, so it's
like this weird force perspective where it looks like the
background behind him is like who washy forward and it's
going right into his face. I found out while researching
this movie that Alfred Hitchcock actually made that pretty famous
when he filmed Vertigo. Not Alfred Hitchcock himself, but the

(32:12):
camera operator named Ermin Roberts. When they were doing Vertigo,
they needed to figure out a way to make the
viewers watching the movie feel uneasy at the heights, just
like the guy in the movie, just like fucking what
is the name, James Stewart, I think it was the
main guy Vertigo, Yes, so trying to make you as
uneasy as possible, to make you as immersed as possible.

(32:33):
In that movie, they actually call it the Hitchcock zoom occasionally,
so I found that to be a very fun fact.
But yeah, I mean, that's like, again, more accolades to
this movie because that's literally the most incredible shot, And
watching it today gave me goosebumps again because I haven't
watched Jaws in a really long time and it's just
it's fucking iconic. It's not the last time you'll ever

(32:54):
see a Dolly zoom in a movie, but I don't
think you'll see it any better than that shot.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Have you seen Vertigo.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I've seen it's and pieces of it. I feel like
I saw it when I was younger, but I do
not remember it, like when we watched when we were
talking about birds. My dad is a huge Alfred Hitchcock guy,
so I feel like he made me watch that movie.

Speaker 8 (33:11):
But I just remember saying my dad.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Has a huge cock, and then I stopped listening.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
An amateur fisherman recklessly hunts for the predator a large
target tiger shot is shark is caught. I can't even
talk now. I think I just said sharp because you're
talking about my dad and his bits. The town breathes
a sigh of relief, thinking that the shark is Finally
that whole issue is put to rest. However, a marine
biologist by the name of Matt Hooper arrives to examine
the specimen. He's quickly determined that this is not the culprit.

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It is far too small and there is nothing in
it in its stomach that is human remains. Hooper convinces
Brody cut the shark open to further prove that it's
not responsible for the attack, and they investigate Chrissy's remains again,
and Hooper confirms that the injuries were caused by a
much larger great white shark. Lager, Hooper and Brody venture
out on Hooper's boat, where they discover a half sunken

(34:01):
fishing vessel belonging to a local fisherman, Ben Gardner. Hooper
dives underwater to inspect the wreck and discovers a massive
hole in the full as if something enormous had attacked it.
In a terrifying moment, Gardner's severed head suddenly floats into view,
causing Hooper to panic and flee. Despite mounting evidence, Mayor
Vaughan refuses to close the beaches, which of course he

(34:24):
does because money talks and bullshit walks. To ease his paranoia,
Brody stations lifeguards and patrol boats all over the place,
and suddenly a dorsal fin slices through the water, sending
swimmers into a panic. However, it turns out to be
a prank by two boys with a fake fin.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Do you have a dorsal fin? Does he call you
at home?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
What the fuck are you saying? Right now? Oh my god,
that is such a deep pool. Holy shit, I am
so impressed.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
What is it? Does he have a dorsal fin? Do
you know him? Does he call you at hom.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Oh my god, I am so delighted. Right just as
relief sets in the real shark strikes in a nearby
pond where Brodie's young son Michael is in a small boat.
The massive great white tips over a nearby vessel and
an adult man is pulled under and devoured. This scene,
when the shark eats that guy who's trying to help

(35:20):
the kids, that actually scared me probably the most. There's
two scenes in this movie that scared me. This one
because that's the first time you really see the shark
opening its mouth and how big it is, and it
always made me really uncomfortable. And then the final time
you see the shark when it scared me the most,
when it's coming on the boat. But you're watching it
right now and giggling, aren't you so proud of you?

(35:44):
Don't worry. I'm gonna put it into the episode right here.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Hinge is loved on the show ding, what's long is
the chow? Ding?

Speaker 8 (35:54):
Who the hell is that?

Speaker 2 (35:56):
That's a.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
Heinski's velvet?

Speaker 3 (36:01):
I am trying to have dolphins. You want to talk
to the dolphin. You talk to me? What happened to
the regular trainer? What happened to him? What happened to me?
Seven yeards, I'm the sag great wey are making the
dolphins disappear.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
And then Roy is coming with the vite tiger on
the stopping in the pants.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Oh no, I'm gone?

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Where is snow Flake?

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Why do you care about the dolphin?

Speaker 7 (36:25):
Do you know him?

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Does he call you at home? Do you have a
dorphin fin?

Speaker 4 (36:30):
To trains a.

Speaker 8 (36:31):
Dolphin, you must think like the dolphin.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
You must be getting inside the dolphins and woms communicating.
I'm saying the snow flake up on the daily and
you can quote him. Heinz Forkelsford trainer to the dolphins. Dolphin,

(36:53):
you talk to me.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
That's a fucking iconic movie. I love that movie. With
the legist attack proving fatal, Vaughn is forced to acknowledge
the threat and Brody, oh god, Matt is dying. Vaughn
is forced to acknowledge the threat. Brody, determined to end
the nightmare, hires Quint, a grizzled and eccentric shark hunter,
to kill the beast. Are you okay?

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
The next day, Brody and Hoop, I always want to
say Hopper, Brody, Hooper, and Quint set out on Quint's boat,
the Orca, to hunt the shark. As they set sail
into open water, the tension between the three men become evident. Quint,
a hard and see veteran, mocks Hooper's academic background, while Brody,
who was terrified of Wager, is completely out of his element.
They soon encounter the shark, a Monstro's twenty five foot

(37:42):
three ton Great White, which is much larger than they expected.
And this is where that infamous line You're gonna need
a bigger boat, which was ad libbed, comes into play.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
You've never been to Florida, correct, happily? Yes, okay, I
mean there's nothing wrong with that, But there is the
universal ride for Jaws. I was gonna ask if you
ton't been on that, but then I'm pretty sure and
you've never been there, and it's it's just a boat
ride and then a fucking shark pops out of water.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
And like I've seen videos of it.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, it's it's fun for what it is, but it's like,
once again the whole concept has now become something bigger
than just a movie.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
You know, yeah, for sure, it's.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
An experience, so needing a bigger boat. All yeahda yeah, yea,
it's just so this movie. May he be my Jeebi's
Oh my god in a good way.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, this is set a year slive. It's gonna be
fucking mara.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh my god.

Speaker 8 (38:37):
We have a fifth No.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
No, we're not getting a fifth. We're not getting a
fifth category.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
We can because should have been offended. We forgot about offended.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Offensive is just the fucking felony, felony.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Level dog shit felony offended. So they attach barrels to
the shark, using harpoons to slow it down, but the
creature it proves to be shockingly powerful and resilient. It
disappears beneath the waves, dragging the barrels with it. As
night falls, The trio bond over drink. Sharing personal stories,
Quinn recounts his harrowing experience as a survivor of the
sinking of the USS Indianapolis, a real life World War

(39:17):
two tragedy where hundreds of men were stranded in shark
infested waters. His chilling monologue sets anymous tone for what's
to come. I have a really cool fun fact about that, actually,
and I can't wait to get to it. Later that night,
the shark launches terrifying tax attacks on the boat, of
ramming it and damaging the hull, and then it disappears
into the darkness. At dawn, the men resume their hunt,

(39:39):
but the orca begins to sink due to the damage.
Also in the book, the men go home every single
night they like, I think they hunt it for like
two three days. They literally go back every night. In
this they're in the middle of the ocean. Yeah, we're sleepy.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah, because you know, during war, you just stop. Everyone
takes a break from Is it war?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Though? When a shark is just being a shark, no.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
No, when you put it that way, no shark sharks
be sharking.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
The shark is literally fighting, just living its life.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
The shark just wants to exist, and everyone's like, we're
gonna fuck that shark.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, it's like that fucking gorilla Harambe. Yeah, he was
just being a gorilla.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
I agree. I think that's part of the problem, is
that Harambe just gonna Harambe. And then people are like
We're gonna kill Harambe. Yeah, why did you have to
have such a smooth sounding name?

Speaker 2 (40:32):
I don't know. Maybe we should change the name of
this podcast.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Top forty Beats by Haraumbi Coming up next, Harambe sings.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
The Ytes should be a radio announcer.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
I wanted to be a radio DJ for quite a
while and I just never got the job. Oh yeah,
because I want to give away and they fired me.
True story. Yeah, it's true. When I went to the
radio station, they had talked about giving me an on
air radio job because they needed help, and then I
want to give away and they had no choice but
to fire me because employees weren't supposed to be able
to enter giveaways. Sometimes it's hard when you're smarter with

(41:05):
other than other people with computers.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Did you win it nobly or did you steal the giveaway?

Speaker 5 (41:11):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
You crafty fuck.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
I might have been able to give myself a lot
of points to enter more times, and eventually I got
flagged nice, proud of you. I want a universal remote
And there was the two hundred and fifty dollars check
cash that got me.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I really don't think I've ever been more proud to
be your friend than this episode when you.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Find out that I'm kind of low key a piece
of shit when it comes to winning giveaways. Work smarter,
not harder. I mean, I was a part time employee,
not making a ton of money, and I was working
like three jobs at the time.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah how old were you?

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Uh twenty three?

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, nobody cares you're a baby.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
I actually so the one of it. He's not the
program director, but he was my middle school bowling partner
who were like really fucking tight. And I didn't talk
to him for years because I was like in wrist
And when I finally ran into him in Milwaukee and
I said something to me and he goes, we thought
it was fucking hilarious. He goes, you hacked the system
to give yourself a billion points and that's how they
caught you. He goes, it's actually fucking genius. He was

(42:12):
the only reason don't set up for is because they
were He goes, these were our full time jobs and
we able to lose them. So we kind of threw
under the bus. And I said, as you should, like,
no part of me is upset with you, guys.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
I just felt like a tipshit, fucking hacker like the
girl in fucking Jurassic Park. A unique system. I know
this clickity klackity.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Oh. Watch Hackers, greatest movie ever.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I think I've seen that once.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Stop. Please watch this. Please this weekend, watch Hackers and
think of me. Angelina Jolie, Johnny Lee Miller.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I have one hundred percent seen it. I just don't
remember anything about it.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Please rewatch it for me. Will for your old pal
Matt Stein, do it? I will, I will thank you. Right.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Hooper attempts a risky move, using a diving cage to
inject a shark with poison. No thank you. However, the
shark demolish's the cave and nearly kills Hooper. Actually, I
take it back. This scene also scared me. Cooper does escape,
but he barely does by hiding on the ocean floor.
Moments later, the shark lunges onto the orca not next
to onto that bitch capsizes the orca. Quinn tries to

(43:16):
fight back, but is brutally dragged into the shark's massive jaws.
In a horrifying scene, he has bitten in half and devoured.
Now I only have one issue, one little small ripe
with this movie. Now I understand there's a lot of
chaos going on. The ship is sinking. There is a
fucking three to twenty five foot shark with a mouth

(43:38):
the size of a buick at the bottom of this
fucking thing, and you're sliding towards it. Don't you think, though,
you could simply just kind of put your foot up
on its snout and it wouldn't get you.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
So theoretically, yes, I understand what you're saying, But do
you think in a moment of distress and panic, that's
gonna be what you're gonna do?

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Like I say in every episode in this season thus far,
except I would not be in this situation. I don't like,
I would not hurts my ears.

Speaker 8 (44:12):
Really smart.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I wish people could see your mustache moving when you
do it. It's so good. It's like a little caterpillar or.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
A little slippery, little fuzzy snake. I I agree with
what you're saying, but you know.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah, it's the it's the only thing that I was
just like, I think I could have I think I
could have made it. But again, giant shark, panic, the
boat is sinking. You know, craziness with Quintin dead and
the boat sinking. Brody makes desperate last stand. He climbs
onto the sinking mast and shoves a pressurized scuba tank

(44:50):
into the shark's mouth. As the beast lunges one final time,
Brody takes aim with his rifle and says, smile you,
son of a and boom. The bullet strikes the tank,
causing a massive explosion. The Great White is obliterated. It
remains sinking into the ocean. I just had an epiphany.
Have you seen the movie Deep Bluecy?

Speaker 3 (45:09):
I don't know if I have. Is this just basic?

Speaker 8 (45:12):
Is Deep Blucy basically Jaws number one?

Speaker 2 (45:14):
If I'm watching Hackers this week weekend, watch Deep Blue
Sy this weekend.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Holy fuck, yeah, no, I got time.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
That movie is a bad, great shark movie. It is
one of my favorite shark movies of all time.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
They are better or worse than Shark Nado.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Oh way begger way bigger?

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Like actually better?

Speaker 7 (45:33):
Or?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Can I give you the synops?

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Can I keep cutting you off?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
You do it very well?

Speaker 7 (45:39):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (45:40):
There's three of them?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
The Motherbugger, Yes I do. I've only seen the first one,
the only one accounts because Sam Jackson is in it.
Son of a bitch?

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Does he pop about an nowhere. It just be like,
I don't know through these motherfucking sharks in this motherfucking lake.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
There is like a little grand stand that he does
that's very Sam Jackson. Damn, I don't watch it right
now and podcast. Basically, it is a movie about the
scientists at this aquatic center that's literally in the middle
of the ocean. You have to take a fucking helicopter
to get there and a fucking massive boat. They are
doing tests on shark's brains to see if they can

(46:15):
cure like Alzheimer's or something, and they make the fucking
sharks smarter.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Why is Sharknato not on the Underwater Shark season that
you've procured?

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Can I think that's on? Like my ridiculous animal series?

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Ridiculousness. There's so many seasons of this show.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
They're just ideas. We don't ever have to do them all,
but I really would love to do them all.

Speaker 8 (46:32):
Ever gonna do them all, Like we're gonna do them.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
We're gonna do this until we're eighty five years old.
It's gonna be great. But yeah, So basically, the sharks
get smarter and then they start attacking the facility and
it's great. This what the the dad's scar scars guard,
isn't it? What is his name? Stepan Stellin, Stealin Jack whatever.

(46:55):
I haven't seen those yet.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Oddly enough, I have. I've seen them both and you haven't.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah, I want to read the first. I'm at dork.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
There's a TV show. You have a lot of reading
a new Bukkeroo.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Audiobooks work too, because that's how I did Jaws.

Speaker 8 (47:07):
Like I read.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
I'd read the first hundred pages a long time ago,
and I was like, oh, I'll just read. I'll listen
to the first hundred pages, and then I was like,
I'm just gonna finish it because this is horrible.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
How long was that book?

Speaker 2 (47:16):
I think like nine hours, eight nine hours. I did
it at one point five speed though, so like five hours.
It did not take me long. I literally finished it
in a shift before my kids woke up, or like
by the time my kids went to school. Jesus Christ,
let's close this out. But Brody exhausted, but Victorious finds
Hooper alive. The two survived by making a makeshift raft

(47:39):
from floating debris and began paddling to the shore. As
they drift towards safety, broading now at peace with the
water remarks I used to hate the water, and Hooper replies,
I can't imagine why, and then the credits will roll.
So I have some notes. I already asked you if
you had ever been into the beach we governed.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
That I right near the beach. Boy.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I love coastal towns. My uncles and my grandfather and
my great grandparents lived in coastal towns in Massachusetts and Maine.
So like the first line you hear pretty much Atga
Brodie's mouth where he's like they're in the yad by
the ca. That's how my uncles and my great grandparents spoke.
So we would spend weeks with them in the summer.

(48:23):
So by the time I would come home, I was
saying stuff like ka and yad and like that's just
how they talk. Because lou Beck, Maine is as that
accent that's as deep as you could get, and it's
very hard to understand. Sometimes it's like the clam chatta,
like it's just great. I love it.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Say it, Frenchy.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
I do have one question for you in regards to
this movie.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
You're less fun when you just ignore me cutting you off.
I know anyway, sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
You're good. I've read and seen a lot of horror
movie lists and segments on shows. Most of them put
Jaws at number one or in the top three. Do
you agree with that that Jaws is the number one
greatest horror movie of all time? Because I will see
The Exorcist and Jaws at the number one spot. The Exorcists,

(49:11):
I understand Jaws, I don't really no, But there you have.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
To take into account people have a serious fear of water, hello, yep,
me no, yeah, and then there are people that have
a serious fear of sharks in water. So it's like
you're hitting two sizeable demographics in one. It's a well
made movie. The problem is is I haven't seen every
horror movie, and I can argue that people that have

(49:38):
made these lists also have not seen every horror movie ever. Yeah,
so you can't say for certain if it is the
greatest horror movie of all times, are in the top
two greatest horror movies of all times against the Exorcist
when you haven't seen them all. You also really need
to have a fear of water or sharks to consider
this movie super fucking scary and also like as a
movie as a horror movie, I would say it's a

(50:00):
very very great, well done horror movie that should exist,
and I would say a top ten. Okay, me being
the age that I'm at, you know, this came out
before I was even born, so a lot of what
I'm going to consider top tier horror movies are going
to exist for my childhood, my upbringing. I don't know
if I've really seen a movie recently that has come
out that was new that I would consider greatest of

(50:22):
all time status status, because nostalgia is a hell of
a fucking drug.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
I think having any like any type of list, I
feel like the number one spot is so subjective mm hmm.
So like in your life, what would you say is
the number one horror movie of all time? Like something
that actually got your got got your goat?

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Oh that actually scared the shit out of me? The
first out Raiser, hands fucking down. First time I saw
it scared the shit out of me. I know, I've
told the story in here before. I borrowed someone's VHS tape.
It scared me so badly I buried it at the
bottom of the garbage and never ever gave it back
to him. Getting older, Yes, getting older and like understanding horror,
being into horror a lot more watching I remember multiple

(51:03):
times a year people had come over my parents I
was in high school, don't at me to watch the
Texas Chainsaw Massacer because I had it, Like I remember
going to Walmart to buy it because people are coming over,
So it was like, so that was It's a great
movie and it has a lot of great memories as
a result of like people coming over and shit like that,
but also like the same vein slumber Party. Massacre too

(51:26):
is one of my favorite movies because of the memories
of watching it when I was a senior in high
school with some of my friends and everything that happened
that night. So once again, it's all subjective. So to
answer your question, I don't know, man, it's a tough one.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
I think top ten is very valid because it is scary.
It is unsettling. Most people have experience going into the ocean.
Very few people that I know have experience with actual sharks,
like I've seen them at the aquarium in Trenton, New Jersey.
There is the well Camden Camden Aquarium and you can
literally walk through a tunnel and there's just sharks floating

(51:59):
around you, and it creeps me out sometimes and like
they have fake but you know, accurate to size megladon
fossiled jaws, and it could it could literally swallow me
whole without a fucking thought. Because like the scariest movie
to me of all time is when the original when
a stranger calls that movie whenever we rewatch get to

(52:21):
that season of Like I think I have a season
on there called Psycho Killer where that's on there. I
know so many I have ideas. I put write them
down because if I don't, I'll forget them forever.

Speaker 8 (52:32):
It's the adhd Well you.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Have Hush on there too, which is a fucking insanely
good movie.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
That is such an underrated movie. I make people watch
that movie. This could be someone's everyone. Like I remember
my grandmother told me when they saw this movie when
it came out. She was probably around my age, and
she was one of the older siblings in her family
because you know, those families back then had like six
seven kids a pop. Her younger siblings were so scared

(52:59):
they would not even go in any type of body
of water for years. So like it had an effect
I have, like similar to the birds I have some
fun facts about sharks. I think I'm gonna add fun
facts about the animals I did not care about or
frogs at all to do that for, but this one
I clearly cared about. So great white sharks are some

(53:21):
of the most fascinating creatures in the ocean, and here
are some jaw dropping facts about them.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I was really proud of that one. Great whites have
an incredible sensitive sense of smell. They can detect blood
and water from miles away, which helps them locate their
prey even in vast open waters. They have electro receptors
that can sense heartbeats, which basically they have this sensory
organ in them which I can't pronounce, so I'm not

(53:49):
gonna even try it. It looks like an Italian dish.
It's called ampuleae of Lorenzzini. It literally looks like I
could eat it, which allows for them to detect electromagnetic
fields produced by living creatures, including the heartbeats of their prey. So,
like that was the cool thing in the book is
because like you get some of the shark's perspective and

(54:10):
it's sensing the movement and the people in the water.
They can leap out of water, which is fucking terrifying.
It's called breaching. Great whites can propel themselves completely out
of the water, often while hunting seals. This explosive hunting
tactic is most commonly seen in South Africa's False Bay.

(54:30):
They have a cartilage skeleton. They have no bones in
their body. It's fully made of cartilage, which makes them
lighter and more flexible in the water. They continuously replace
their teeth over a lifetime. They can go through thousands
of teas. The sharks have rows and rows and rows
of tea, so basically they lose a tooth and another
tooth pops in. It's insane. They can reach speeds up

(54:51):
to thirty five miles an hour, which is faster than
Michael Scott's. So they are also kind of warm blooded animals.
Unlike most fish, great white have a specialized system in
their bodies I'm not going to pronounce that, allowing them
to keep parts of their body warmer than the surrounding water,
which gives them more power and endurance while hunting. This
is probably my fucking favorite fact because there's twelve of these.

(55:16):
They have been around for millions of years, so they
are dinosaurs, which is incredible. Fossil evidence suggests that great
whites have existed for at least four million years, making
them one of the most longest surviving ocean predators. They
could travel very long distances. Some sharks have been tracked
as traveling over twelve thousand miles between continents, which is

(55:38):
fucking crazy. They are extremely intelligent. Intelligent, intelligent, not like
me because I can't say the word. They display lots
of curiosity, problem solving, and social behaviors that challenge the
stereotype of them just being mindless killers.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Do calculusy pieces of shit?

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Tell me what the square root of pie is? Motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Check out there, dick out.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
You're gonna say square over these nuts. I was so close.
Damn it, we were almost simpatico.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Such a disappointment.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
I'm sorry, it's okay. You've been great this whole episode.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
They can live up to seventy years. While once believed
to have a much shorter life span, recent studies have
shown that great whites can live well over sixty years,
making them one of the longest living creatures. Actually, Google this.
This is the most fucking horrifying image ever. Because sharks
do actually freak me out genuinely picture of the oldest
shark in the world. It is so scary to me.

(56:30):
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
He's got no teeth, like to leave the guy alone.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
He's hundreds of years old.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Five hundred.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
That's fucking horrifying. I hate it.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
I went to a Reddit thread. The top comment he's
telling the diver about how he is to swim up
current both ways just to get to school.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
I just thought of like that, that fucking meme of
like I'm tired of this grandpa, and he's just like,
well that's too damn bad, Like that poor shark, just
like he's like, I'm trying to die, but they won't
let me.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Oh God.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
And last but certainly not least, which you know, kind
of goes against what this whole movie is about. Contrary
to popular belief, great white sharks, sharks attacks on humans
are extremely rare. Most incidents of are cases of mistaken identity,
as sharks often test bite before realizing that humans are
not their usual prey. Sorry, I just bit the fucking

(57:20):
your leg off. But you're just a seal, just a
little just a little, just a little taste. So I
think it's pretty obvious for Yay, nay or sleigh or
offended or Mary that we happily yay this movie and
marry it and love it and watch it forever and ever.
It's a great movie. I don't know of a living

(57:40):
person that has seen Jaws, and I'm sure I've known
people that haven't seen it. Actually, I'm gonna text my
friend Chris right now because I can guarantee you he
has never seen Jaws. It's great. It's one of the
greatest movies of all time. So a big old yay.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Yeah, No, for sure. I mean I'm gonna as well.
I don't think I said anything really truly negative about
movie itself.

Speaker 8 (57:59):
The book maybe, but book trash.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Just you know, I have it now and it's a
nice little piece to go on my bookshelf. I love
the cover. It's basically the same cover as the book
or the movie rather, but it's just it, ain't it. Sis. Now, Matthew,
in this scenario, would you survive.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
If I got on that boat?

Speaker 2 (58:16):
No, if I staying out of the goddamn.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Water, yes, yep, yepe.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
I mean I'm exactly the same way. But now let's
go into some monster minutes, because I know this episode
is running a little bit longer than usual. This is
actually probably one of my favorite just happy things that
came from this movie, because we talked about a lot
of just this. Not to have a pun on water,
you know words, but the ripple effect of this movie

(58:43):
is just far and wide. Several decades after the film's release,
Lee Ferrero, who played Missus Kintner, walked into a seafood
restaurant and noticed and Alex Kittner sandwich on the menu.
She commented that she played his mother many years ago.
Jeffrey Voorhees, the manager of the restaurant who played Alex,
ran out to meet her. They hadn't seen each other

(59:03):
since the original movie. Shoot, like the fucking chances of
that now, granted if they both lived in La or
what have you that you know, maybe not as you know, rare,
but you have to think, this is nineteen seventy five
that this came out. Most of these people weren't in
like the Hollywood vibe like they were living today, like

(59:23):
they filmed these movies, and then they went the fuck
hope they didn't live in La exclusively. When composer John
Williams originally played the score for Spielberg, he laughed and said,
that's funny, John, really, but what did you really have
in mind for the theme of Jaws. Spielberg later stated
that without William's score, the movie would only have been
half as successful, and according to Williams, it jump started

(59:44):
his career. Two notes, Baby, it's incredible, less is more.
Everybody knows that theme. It's you can't escape it, and
it's amazing dud. According to Spielberg, the prop arm two
fake in a scene where Chrissy's remains were discovered, so
instead they buried a female crew member in the sand

(01:00:06):
with only her arm exposed. There you go, that's cheaper.
That's one way to do it. According to writer Carl Gottlieb,
rus Schneider ad lib the line You're gonna need a
bigger boat. We said that earlier. Over sixty seven million
people in the US went to see this film when
it initially re released in nineteen seventy five, just under
a third of the country's population at the time, making

(01:00:27):
it the first summer blockbuster. So you don't even get
blockbuster movies in the summer without Jaws. Like, yes, I'm
sure something else we have come along the way, come
along and had that torch, but Jaws got it first.
The blowing up of the shark was scheduled for the
last day of the shoot. Four cameras were trained on it. Spielberg, however,

(01:00:47):
was not there. He decided that before the crew did
any of the any wild pranks on him to mark
the end of principal photography, he would just leave quietly.
He and Richard Dreyfus were on a plane to Boston
when the actor turned to him and asked how the
final shot went. When Spielberg answered, smiling, they're shooting it now,
and Dreyfuss began laughing hysterically. Early in the film, Brody

(01:01:08):
is flipping through a book about sharks. One of the
pictures shows a great white with an oxygen tank in
its mouth. That's how he kills the shark. In the end,
at the town meeting, Quint says. Quint says, this shark
swallow hole, shaking, tenderizing, down you go, foreshadowing his own death.
In the film's climax, the mechanical shark is nicknamed bruce

(01:01:29):
constantly broke it. Brucey constantly broke down, forcing Spielberg to
film many sequences without it, unknowingly making the movie even scarier.
And this is the last fact, and I made reference
to it when quint was doing his speech about the
USS Indianapolis. Though respected as an actor, Robert Shaw's trouble
with alcohol was a frequent source of tension during filming.

(01:01:52):
In later interviews, Rouschneider described his co star as a
perfect gentleman when whenever he was sober, all he needed
was one drink, and then he turned into a competitive
son of a bitch. According to Carl's book The Jaws Log,
Shaw was having a drink between takes, at which one
point he announced I wish I could quit drinking, much
to the surprise and horror of the crew. Richard Dreyfus

(01:02:13):
simply grabbed Shaw's glass and tossed it into the ocean,
much to Shaw's chagrin. Shaw then allegedly bullied Dreyfus for
the rest of the shoot. He eventually sprayed Dreyfus in
the face with a fire hose, causing that to enrage Dreyfus,
and he stormed off set, saying that's it. I don't
want to work with you anymore. Go fuck yourself, which
he would later state that never actually happened. They just

(01:02:34):
had a disagreement because he didn't like they got sprayed
in the face with water blow law, But you know whatever,
but this is what I like the most. When it
came time to shoot the infamous USS Indianapolis scene, Shaw
attempted to do the monologue while intoxicated. As it called
for the men to be drinking late at night, nothing
in the take could be used. A remorseful Shaw called
Spielberg that late that night and asked if he could
have another try. The next day of shooting. Shaw's electrifying

(01:02:57):
performance was done in one take, so that seeing that
you see in the movie is the day after he
drunkenly attempted to do it didn't work out, and he
did that shit in one try. Hats off to you,
mister Shaw. I like it, he says, respected actor. But
I literally have only seen him in one other movie,

(01:03:17):
and that was from Russia with Love, the James Bond movie.
But yeah, those are your minutes fucking love Jaws man.
Do you have anything else you want to chat about
in regards to uh Jaws? Brucey existential dread? All right,

(01:03:38):
well that is gonna do it for this episode of
Monster Mannas. Make sure you share this episode with your friends,
send us some emails, you know the drill, and as always,
until next time, thank you so much. We'll see you. Yeah,
next time we are gonna be talking about the nineteen
seventy six film Grizzly, which enters in a hole. There's

(01:04:00):
in a whole new level of animal right there, should
be up pretty good, so uh buckle up, motherfucker.

Speaker 8 (01:04:11):
Bye bye, she frody.

Speaker 7 (01:04:18):
Yes, I just found out that the girl got killed
here last week.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
And you knew it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:36):
You knew there was a shock out there. You knew
it was dangerous, little people gonna swim me anyway.

Speaker 9 (01:04:50):
You knew all those things.

Speaker 7 (01:04:57):
Still, my boy is dead.

Speaker 9 (01:04:58):
Now there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Tupa.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
That's the US's Indianapolis.

Speaker 6 (01:06:34):
Mmm, you want the Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
What happened?

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Japanese submarine slammed two torpedoes into her side.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
It was coming back from the island of Tinian. The
lady just delivered the bumb, the Hiroshima bumb. Eleven hundred
men went into the water. Vessel went down in twelve minutes.
Didn't see the first shot for beout half an hour.

(01:07:12):
Tiger thirteen foot of you know you know that when
you're in the water chief, you tell by looking from
the door show to the tail.

Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
But we didn't know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
Which Our bomb. Mission had been so secret, no distressed
signal had been sent m They didn't even list as
overdo for a week.

Speaker 6 (01:07:42):
Very first light Chief shoks come cruising, So we formed
ourselves into tight groups.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
It was kind of like old squares in the battle
like you see in the calendar, like the Battle of Waterloo,
and the idea was shot, comes the nearest man, then
man east, that bounding, hollering and screaming. Sometimes the shark
go away. Sometimes he wouldn't go away. Sometimes that sharky
looks right into you, right into your eyes. You know

(01:08:13):
the thing about a Shocky's got.

Speaker 6 (01:08:16):
Lifeless eyes, black eyes like a doll's eye. When he
comes at you, doesn't seem to be living until he
bites you, and those black eyes roll over white.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
And then.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
Oh, then you hear that terrible high pitched screaming.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
The ocean turns red despite of all the pound and
then hollering. They all come in repeated pieces.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
Nobody internet first one.

Speaker 6 (01:08:54):
Lost a hundred men. I don't know how many shocks.
Maybe if I don't know how many manly averaged six
an hour. On Thursday morning, Chief I bumped into a
friend of mine, Herbie Robinson from Cleveland baseball player Bosn's mate.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
I thought he was asleep. He still be to wake
him up.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
Bobbed up and down in the water. It's like a
kind of top.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Up ended.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Where he'd been bitten in half to go the waist.
Noon the fifth day, mister Hooper Luck he'd been tour
So she swung in low and he saw us to
the young part of Luck, younger than mister Hooper. Anyway,
he saw us, and he come in low, and three
hours later a big fat pby comes down and start

(01:09:51):
to pick us up. You know, that was the time
I was most frightened, waiting for my turn. I'll never
put on a life checket again. So eleven hundred men
went in the war. Three hundred and sixty men come
out of the Sharks took the rest. During the twenty ninth,

(01:10:11):
nineteen forty five. Anyway, we delivered the bomb

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