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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Well, hey there, folks. Just like how only you can
prevent forest fires, only you can prepare yourself for what's
ahead on this podcast. But before we hike into the
woods of horror films and all the terrifying tales they tell,
you should know that on this show, we'll be taking
a deep dive into some of your favorite scary movies.
But be warned there will be spoilers hidden behind every
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tree stump, So if you haven't seen the movie we're
talking about, well you should probably circle on back to
the trailhead partner. Not only that, but things can get
a little let's say explicit.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Around here.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You'll hear strong language and those opinions of ours, oh,
they can be as sharp as.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
A bear's fangs.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
So remember, only you can decide if you're ready for
the journey ahead. So stick around if you're prepared to
face all those spoilers and listen to all that strong
language and entertain some seriously bold takes.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Otherwise, tread lightly, yeah hard. Hi, Hello, and welcome to
this week's episode of Monster Man's, a podcast dedicated to
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all sorts of creatures, features and beyond. I'm Erica and
joined with me is a man who would probably still
try to pet a lion during a mauling. My co
host and best friend, Matthew.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Why are you biting me? I just want to be
your friend.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Nice kitty, warm kitty, little fluff of fur or whatever
that fucking thing is.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
They uh, they all look super cute. But I fully understand,
like there was a a I think it's probably still around,
but there's like a YouTube channel that's just a family
that owns like a puma and it just lives in Yeah,
a puma and it just lives inside their house. And
then it's like, at any moment, this murder kitten could
just destroy your whole family, and you're like, I'm gonna
fucking flap your you dumb pussy.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Jesus, that's exactly what they sound like, like these old
twenties gangsters. Hello, why remember Jesus? Before we get into
all the pussycat talk, you can find Monster Madnis on
all your favorite podcasting platforms, social media sites, and things
of that nature. Mats streams video games and drum sessions
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will be posted in our show notes as per the
usual Matt, have you do you have anything that hath
he beed thy gbs.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, we were talking about a little bit before we
tacnically started recording fruit snacks. It's not it's not a
new hebe of the GB's, but Walmart fucked up our
delivery not before because our friend Bradwurst made a comment
when I said something about getting a grocery delivery. The
justification here is that it takes me twenty five minutes
to get to Walmart. I then have to wander around
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a store to get my groceries in another twenty five
minutes home. I can just pay someone to bring them
to me, and then I save on the gas and
the time. So don't don't at me. But yeah, they
straight brought the wrong delivery. And then they're just like
keep it and we'll refund it. Just put a new
one in and in this person, maybe a cereal killer.
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It was a family sized box of Minecraft fruit snacks,
a family sized box of fruit roll ups, a single
can of carrots, a loaf of bread, and giant burrito shells,
and a box of Pops the cereal pops which we've
just been giving the cereal and the burritos to the
chickens because three hundred and thirty calories per tortilla doesn't
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really seem worth it.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
For me, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So yeah, that's insane, but that doesn't stop me from
eating two fruit by the foots rolled up into one
because I'm an adult.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So fruit snacks, I love that, love that for me.
This week, I got these eye masks and you might
actually might suep really buy them. They're only ten bucks
for thirty of them. There are those like gel things
you put under your eyes for like puffiness.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Are you insinuating that I have fucking massive bags under
my eyes? Because I never I don't sleep. I do
right now. So like I woke up bastream Maria, and
I was like, wow, you look awful.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Well now with these I masks, you can do them
once a day. I do them at night before bed
with my girlfriend and they're nice and cool. I don't
remember the name of them, but literally there's a nine
to ninety nine ones on Amazon, and there's three colors.
There's the twenty four carrot gold ones, there's the blue ones.
I have like some sort of acid in them. And
then there's these rose lies.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Oh Grayson Stella under ie masks.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Probably if it's a white box, probably no purple box.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Nope, it's like a it's a well pink I should say.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I could just look at my Amazon.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
No, you totally could so. And my initial question is
going to be is there a difference between the colors
and what they get you?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yes, but there is, there is, there is. It's p
A P E A U A M I E under
eye patches. I don't know how to say that. There's
a lot of vowels uma, pumi puw me. There's really
like fucking seven vowels. Oh yeah, they're so delightful.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You can't triple stamp with double stamplate you. They actually
have a sampler pack, which sampler packs are my weakness.
Oh no, And then I might have to explain to
Alyssa why I have I think she's gonna make fun
of me, and she's like, she's probably gonna ridicule me.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And then she's gonna join you. And they're so soothing,
like they actually relax me. I put one on last
night and watch Love Is Blind and I was just
enjoying life. You only have to put them on for
fifteen minutes. You could do it in the morning when
she's still sleeping, and or when she goes to bed
at eight thirty like I do.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
That's true. Yeah, this is great, But you also get
up at four. I sure do sometimes sleeps later than
I do.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Okay, okay, okay, But I'm just saying you have enough
private time that you could take fifteen to twenty minutes
to rejuvenate underneath your eyes. They're very, very calming and delightful.
They he beat my gps. If you do it and
you don't send me a picture, I'm gonna be so mad.
I'll send you a picture of you wearing one right now.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
But it's less weird for you to do it than
a full grown man. Ts. I have the tits you don't.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's also fair.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
That sounded way worse than it was supposed to. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
That's okay. I'm a part of the itty Bitty Titty
Committee and I'm proud of it.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
There's nothing wrong with that. I just like I want
to get knocked out by a set of tits.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I just want it to be completely standbag by fucking
some knockers.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Any black I've ever had has been a result of tits.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Oh god boobs, but yeah that he beat my GBI's
boss boobs.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
He beat my GB's too.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well, just one pair. But anyway, on this we don't
want any maritals when I know.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
That's why I just stopped.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
But you know you, yeah, yeah, ye're so. On this
episode of My Madness, we are covering arguably the most
dangerous movie ever made, nineteen eighty one's Raw. And can
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I tell you how much I don't like saying the
word roar. It's like it's rural. It's like that word,
it's just there's it's so it feels like I got
marbles in my mouth.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Oh it has nothing to do with your stupid cheese
steak accent.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Speaking of my cheesesteak accent, I was of me, No,
it's fine. I love your accent, bag.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Like, I just love it.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Bag. I was editing our show earlier today, as I do,
and I said something and I sent it to Jackie.
I was like, what is actually wrong with me? Because
I sounded like such a trash, like such a trash can.
I can't even wait for you to hear it. I
remember what I actually said, but it just was full
Philly accent. But either which way or raw is rated PG.
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It was actually filmed between nineteen seventy six and nineteen
eighty one. Don't ask me questions. I don't okay, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I stopped me before.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I don't know that. It was released in Germany on
April seventeenth, nineteen eighty one, and then April twelfth, twenty fifteen,
was the US release. So this movie just was like
hidden forever. And there's a reason why. It falls into
the genre of adventure thriller and nature gone wild, which
is a first for the show.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I thought the genre would be fucking third.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's the Matt genre. It has a runtime of one
hundred and two minutes. It's directed by Noel Marshall as
well as written by It was produced by Film Ways Pictures,
American Film Consortium and Genesis Project. It was distributed by
It just says like The initial release was distributed by
a company in Germany Slash Europe, and then it was
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distributed by draft House Films in the US in twenty fifteen.
The music was by Terry Hood, which the music in
this was just weird to me.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
If the music is where you got hung up with
this movie, that is a different problem.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Fair fair So. The main cast is Noel Marshall, Tippy Hedron,
who was of the Birds fame. She was the main
woman in Birds, Melanie Griffith and John Marshall, now Tippy
and Nol were married at the time. Melanie Griffith was
Tippy's daughter, and John Marshall is Nole's son, and I
believe one of his other sons is in this movie,
but I didn't care enough to put his name down.
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Some taglines for the film the most dangerous movie ever made.
No animals were harmed in the making of this film.
Seventy casting crew members were dot dot dot. A ferocious comedy,
the biggest adventure movie of nineteen eighty three. Doesn't even
have the year right, but okay, the ultimate chase movie
of the year, more suspense than Jaws, more comedy than
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Cannonball Run, more excitement than Raggers of the Lost Art,
Fuck You God, and then last, but certainly not least,
There's never been a film like and there never will
be again. I'm not saying it. Seriously, I can't. I
can't do it.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
You can't. Well, the fact that like, it doesn't even
I thought this was okay, okay, okay, it's it's labeled
as what like a horror comedy, and then the tagline
is a ferocious comedy. So it has nothing to do like,
none of the tags than anything to do with anything
about horror other than it's dangerous to the people that
were involved in the movie because they used live fucking
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tigers and shit, and people like, well.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Here's the thing. They never even considered it a horror movie,
but it goes it falls into this genre because of
the things that happened in the movie. To the actual people.
It's an animal attacks movie. So I'm like, okay, but
do you have the budget.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Fucking seventeen million dollars fucking sixty two million dollars.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Right, that's insane. That's insane, which is that's insane.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
All they spent all on lions. You know what? The
best part about it is what it only made two
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
That's amazing, and that's great because fuck them, this movie.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Was seven point three. So that's hold on, let me
get a fucking calculator out I need to know the
percentage of loss that this movie had. Oh so that's
an eleven percent return on investment.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
That hurts.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, SOONEO.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I'm just gonna hop right into the plot because I'd
rather talk about cool facts about lions than this movie.
And I have like a lot to mockery.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I don't understand how the plot is this long, so
I'll speak little little No, you have to you have
no choice.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's true too. But here's the thing. I said this
to you in a text message as well. There are
things in this world like porn without plot. This is
lions without plot. I could not tell you a single
thing or plot point of this entire movie.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I just couldn't, which you're not wrong, and I realized
he fogged Toway. I'm still making that point. You're not wrong,
which makes even less sense that the Wikipedia plot is
five fucking paragraphs long when there was no literal plot
to this movie. If you ask me, and I unfortunately
watched it, you did.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You really did, and I appreciate you. Just remember that.
So an American naturalist Hank lives This is Wikipedia, by
the way, because I was not putting in effort. American
naturalist Hank lives on a nature preserve in Tanzania with
a collection of big cats to study their behavior. Although
he is due to pick up his wife Madeline and
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their children, John, Jerry, and Melanie from the airport to
bring them to his home, he is delayed by his
friend Mativo warning him that a committee is coming to
review his grant. As he shows Mativo around his ranch
and the rest of the preserve while they wait, Hank
explains the nature of the Lion Pride and their fear
of Tagaro Lyon, who often quarrels with the Pride's leaguer Robbie.
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Hank asks Mativo to help him keep the Pride safe.
I could not tell you a single conversation that reflected
any of that, but okay. The grant committee arrives. One
of its members, Prentice, disapproves of the big cats and
threatens to shoot them. A fight between two lions distracts Hank.
He breaks it up despite having his hand bitten and
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I'm pretty sure it was really bitten in real life.
While Hank is bandaging his hand, the tigers attack members
of the committee and injure some of them, and although
Hank offers assistance, they leave in fear. Mativa expresses his
concerns over another attack. When Hank brings his family to
the ranch. As they leave for the airport on Mativa's boat,
two tigers jump aboard. Traveling with them, Mativo steers into
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a log in the water, causing the craft to sink.
The two men swim to safety. Madeline, John, Jerry, and
Melanie are advised by an airport attendant, Leonard, to board
a bus. They arrive at the ranch and enter the house,
realizing that it has been left on a attended When
Madeline and Jerry open the windows and doors, they are
shocked to see lions eating a zebra carcass in front
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of the house. Family are frightened. That's not right.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Welcome to every issue I've ever had reading Wikipedia.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
The family is frightened when animals enter the house and
try to escape, but Tagar pursues them very very viciously.
Might I add Jerry finds a rifle and tries to
shoot Tagar. While he is fighting Robbie. Melanie fears that
her father has been killed by the animals. Oh so Seth,
Hank and Mitivo, still pursued by the tigers, take two
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bikes from a local village. To prevent the tigers from
following Hank to the airport, Mativa climbs a tree and
distracts them. Hank encounters the airport attendant, who tells them
that his family have taken a bus to his ranch.
Hank arrives back in Leonard's car and rescues Mativo from
a tree that he made him go in. By the way,
one of the car's tires is punctured by a rock
in the road, and Hank runs the ranch while Mativo
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fends off the tigers with an umbrella. The following morning,
the family boards Hank's boat to try and escape, and
an elephant pulls the craft back to shore and destroys it.
John goes for help on Hank's motorcycle, but he is
chased by the big cats and drives into the lake.
After escaping another elephant, the family swims across the lake
and finds another house that they used to sleep in.
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When they awake, they find themselves surrounded by the pride
and conclude that since they are still alive, the animals
do not intend to hurt them. Prentis tries to persuade
the committee to hunt down and kill Hank's lions, though
he is unsuccessful. He and Rick, another committee member, shoot
many of the big cats. Anyway, Eventually, Tagar's attack to
Gar attacks them, and although Hank sees the assault and
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tries to intervene, the lions kill Prentice and Rick before
returning to the house to battle Robbie. Robbie stands up
to Takar and fight, and the fight ends. Hank arrives
at the ranch to find his family waiting for him.
Mativo arrives and Hank asks Hims not to have mentioned
Prentice or Rick's death. He intro. He is introduced to
Hank's family, who agreed to stay for the week. The end.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
So that was rare and excuse me, that was what
ra rah.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
So some notes, Uh well actually before I get into
my notes, Uh yeah, near slay.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Matt for this slap slay app slay slay out a king.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, I have to agree this if this movie had
any type of substance to it where I understand what
the fuck was going on at all, because the ad R,
like the looping that they did, was not good. It
didn't match anything, and it was just chaos, chaos with
this man just like love it onlines, which is great.
Here's the thing. Big cats need love, not Tiger King
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level love, but they need love. What was the name
of the bitch and Tiger King?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Uh, I'm trying really hard not to look it up.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
There's all there's a song, picture of her face, there's
a song.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I know. Carol Basins, Carol Baskins.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Sometimes it's gotta fall sleep for a second.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
You did close your eyes for quite a few seconds.
I do think it was real hard. Yeah, I mean,
it's not that level of I just I don't even know.
I don't even know what to say. I didn't understand
what the story was. I didn't get anything of it
from the dialogue. All I understood with this man lived
in a house with I counted at least twenty five
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lions of some sort. There was pumas, there was panthers,
there was lions, there was tigers. There were so many
cats and I The only small thing that I enjoyed
while watching this is the fact that my cats literally
watched the movie because they were like big brothers, like
they were just.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
But what I was talking to cousin stan Lee is that.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You, Robbie get it right. His name was Robbie. But
what's always fascinating to me, especially about big cats, is
that cats in any shape or size act the same.
Those cats are just really fucking big, deadly, but they
are basically kittens that will slice your fucking face off.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Do you know what they are?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Lions?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Giant pushy dots.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You really are, Because Brooke was watching this with me,
and the whole time she was like, Oh, I don't
want a pet one. I'm like, get the fuck.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Out of here.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
She would though, she would, she would be the one
to nuzzle in a lion's main.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I mean I would too, but then like, I wouldn't
be shocked if my face became less a part of
my body.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Fun fact for the listeners and for you, I think
it's irrational fear, which is it makes me concerned, like
when I think about like hiking in different places that
have actual mounta lions, because there are mountain lions in Pennsylvania.
They are fucking deadly as fuck. They they lock in
on you, You're dead.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I've been on terror. There's a couple YouTube channels which
if you ask me if their names, I will look
them up. If not, I won't. But they're like most
terrifying encounters, Like the one of the ones we watched,
it was like encounters in the woods, So it was
guys that you want them, yeah, yeah, I want them, yeah,
but it was it was encounters in the woods or
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like encounters on hiking trails or some shit. And one
was like a fucking lion was approaching this guy and
he didn't really know what to do, and eventually it
turned around and ran away, but it was like you
could tell if he turned that thing was in a
fucking murder him.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah. I saw one video of this guy who was
hiking or running a trail and a mountain lion was
stalking him, and he was like walking backwards and he
kept going like, ah, get away from me, and it
kept going kept like kind.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Of like it might be the same video, just different channel, but.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah maybe, but he kept like it kept like bucking
at him and uh oh yeah no, it was getting
very close to him and eventually like he was able
to like scare it off with like a stick or something.
But yeah, So I when I was doing research about
because I like in this season, like learning about facts
about the animals, like to see how actually deadly they
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are because it's like a frog. Well, a frog could
kill you if it's a certain type of frog and
it's poisonous and you touch it. But like, it's very
common for people to get killed by lions in a sense.
You know they're very you know they're deadly, so I
like looking up facts about them. Did you know that
if you are hiking and you smell cat piss in
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a very rural hiking area where like a normal cat
wouldn't be and everybody knows what cat piss smells like,
fucking get out of there, because Mount Lion's piss smells
exactly like cat piss. However, tiger piss smells like popcorn.
Lion piss smell, I think just smells like normal ammonia,
but I believe it's tiger piss. I could be mixing
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the two up, but one of them smells like popcorn,
And I was like, that's fucking weird. Because while we
was watching that, I was like, I wonder if, because
I pride myself on the fact that I have three
cats in my house, does not smell a cat. That's
a very hard thing to accomplish because cats are fucking
just whatever. But yeah, popcorn It.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Is tiger piss that smells like popcorn, and it's due
to the presence of two acetyl one pyrol in, the
same molecule responsible for the Roman cooked popcorn, so that
it smells like popcorn because they have that same molecule
in their urin.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Which is fascinating. It's so weird, right.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Lions just being giant pussies. Shocker that it smells like pneumonia. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure tiger is a feline also, but you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It's just weird. How like, like different ones smell like
different things, you'd kind of think that they'd also have
a similar thing but or a similar scent.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Rather if there's any murder cat out there that's piss
smells like funions, I'm gonna die.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I died doing what I loved.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Eating funions. Bye pussy, Yeah, funny and stank pussy murdered
me And I don't.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Mind delete my browser history. You're saying so much as
you're dying.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Right, it was a very long winded death probably speaking.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Of death, would you survive in that house?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
We did, No, absolutely not. Yeah, no way, I'm living
through that.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I am curious. How Okay, So I'm trying to I'm
setting the scene here. You and I are in Tanzania
for whatever you all.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Right, already already not happening.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
But okay, company trip.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
And if you call me and you're like, hey, the
podcast is sending us to Tanzania.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Tanzania, there it is instantly.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Oh you're fine. Instantly, I don't. I don't have the
shots for that. I can't go.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Fair. But okay, So we're in Tanzania and we're in
this house and all of a sudden, fucking lions are
breaking through and they just want to nuzzle us. But
then Tagar wants to fucking eat us. I feel as
I want to know, are you pushing me down to
get to higher ground and away, like are you sacrificing
me like in the panic? Are you throwing elbows or
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are you like kind of just like yeating me up
the stairs because you know I'm dead weight and I'm
not gonna help in any situation.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I think you, knowing me as a human being, you
know this answer, you're yeating me. No, I don't. So
here's the thing is, I've never been in a position
where I've been had to make that decision, so I
don't know for sure. But I would like to think
that me as a human being cares enough about people
that I care about that I wouldn't just be like bitch,
you know what I mean? Like, I feel like I
would at least try to help you.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You fucking just put your leg out and I trip.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, I mean, maybe maybe not.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I always fucking hated this podcast.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Finally free.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I had to go all the way here to fucking
do it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
It took a lion attack to finally get away from
this lady pretty much.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But you know, I feel like we would die immediately.
They would sense my fear, oh yeah, and just rip
my throat out.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
But well, my piss one't smell like popcorns, so they
would know that I'm just expendable.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, They're like, oh, he just smells me.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Not the movie starring Sylvester Small.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Jesus, I have some minutias before we get into fun
line facts to cut out the show to end the show,
because there's really isn't much to talk about. God, yeah,
there isn't really much to talk about with this episode. Guy,
Like this movie, it's not good. We watched it to
watch animals attack people, and they did, and that was great.
But no, most of this is the best. I texted
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you this when you uh were about to watch it
or just finish watching it, because I was like, this
is my favorite fact because it's literally the first one
and the best one. Most of the lion attacks you
saw were very real and usually resulted in actual injury
to the cast and crew, which let me. Okay, so
you had one of the funniest things you ever said
to me in our episode of the Birds.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Oh wow, Okay, well.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Not It wasn't like I've laughed the hardest with that,
but it was one of the funniest thing.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I'm a pretty fucking enjoyable human being.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You made me laugh constantly when we were talking about
the fact that Tippy Hedron, who again right, thanks, who
is the female star of this film as well, she
had to endure a forty hour work week getting attacked
by birds, and you were just like, give me a
goddamn minute, Like if you were Tippy just being like,
fucking birds keep trying to eat me, and like I'm
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just tired. She willingly signed up for another animal attack movie.
She lived with lions, like some of these were her
fucking pets. That was her husband. They really had an
animal sanctuary with one hundred and forty fucking lions that
they took care of. So like, why does this bitch
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love when animals attack her? She is not smart?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
No, I don't know, Like if I had a pet,
if I had an animal that I kept as a pet,
and I had one, like I love dogs. We have
had a number of dogs. We will continue to get
dogs if one like fucking attacked me to a point
where like I lost a foot or something serious happened, Like,
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I don't know if I could ever have a dog again.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
No, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I think.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I think you could have a dog, but you're not
like putting yourself in a circle of wolves.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Well, but that's what I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to, like,
I'm trying to equate it to something that I can understand,
Like I would never have lions, I would never have wolves,
I would never have pumas because I don't want to,
like I understand that they can fucking turn at the
drop of a dime. So I'm trying, like I just
I tippy hedron more like dumbass bitch. That's all I got.
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I don't I loved it.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Uh, cinematographer Yan Debont was mauled by a lion on
the set. Over one hundred and twenty stitches where needed
to sew his scalp back in place after medical treatments.
What yeah, yeah, yeah, this is what these people fucking
endured to film this fucking horrible movie. It wasn't worth it,
my guys.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Hey, yahn, what's what's what? The bald spot? What it
had to show my head back on after I got
attacked by many lions?
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
The German accent makes it so good? Oh fuck, that's delicious.
After his medical treatment, Dippont returned to the production to
complete director of photography duties. He did not make enough.
He did not make enough money for this movie in
any way.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Sh They didn't even cover the medical bills. No.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
In the same theme, Melanie Griffith, who we all know,
was mulled by a lion during filming and required plastic surgery.
Griffith reportedly received fifty stitches to her face. It was
feared that she would lose an eye, but she recovered
and was not disfigured. On another occasion, a lion grabbed
her hair and wouldn't let go. The shot made it
into the film. I remember that shot. I would be
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fucking terrified. With a budget around seventeen million dollars, this
picture has been described as the most expensive home movie
ever made. What an insult that is? That burns because
you know, no Marshall was like, this is going to
be incredible. This is my Jaws, this is my blah
blah blah blah blah, and no, I wonder what Roger
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Ebert said about this.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I legitimately would be curious, like how Melanie Griffith and
Tippy Hedron got convinced to do this movie.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
That was her stepfather and husband and they lived with lions.
They loved them fair enough. So that's and I think
this is one of Melanie griffiths first role. I know
she might have been a child actor. Actually I think
she was a child actor. Noel Marshall was attacked by
wildcats so many times during production that he eventually developed gangreen.
In one incidence, he clawed. He was clawed by a
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cheetah while protecting the animals during a bush fire in
nineteen seventy nine. All of the animals were evacuated, and
it took several years for him to recover from his
injuries all.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I have been waiting for how long we've been in
the show almost five years, six years, six years. I
have been waiting six almost six years to be able
to use the term gangreness, and I finally can.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
There you go?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
He was gangeris he became gangreness?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Gangreness. I hate that word. Gangeris school words with Matt
new segment. The movie was financed by husband and wife
Noel Marshall and Tippy Hedron. Reportedly, to finance this picture,
Hedron and Marshall had to mortgage their assets, including their ranch.
Then they had to sell their Beverly Hills home, one
hundred and twenty acres of prime real estate in San
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Francisco Valley, and other assets in order to complete the picture.
Wasn't worth it?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
No, going back a little bit. Melanie Griffith, his first
acting role was at the age of twelve, so she
was a child actor.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Okay, so there's an actress couple, were you because I
think she was like fifteen sixteen when they first started
filming this. But if it took fucking five years to film,
that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
She was. Yeah, So Night Moves, Drowning Pool and Smile
came out in seventy five and she would have been
like eighteen at the time.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
So yeah, there it goes before in filming, Joel Marshall's
son John Marshall, was the first victim when he.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Was attacked the original Prick when.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
He was attacked by a lion who clamped on its
jaw on John's head. It took twenty five minutes to
get the lion to let go of his head and
it required fifty six stitches.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Okay, can we talk about this, like, for twenty five
minutes there is a murder animal, a murderous animal clamped
onto your head. I would have quit on.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
The spot, be like Dad, I'm not doing this because
that was his son, Like Dad, no, fuck you, They're
not nice.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
They're not my dad, William, You're Dad murial. Dad wouldn't
let a cat eat my face.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Pretty much. This movie is not considered a horror movie. However,
the making of it has been called a horror because
the production was plagued by bushfires, floods, animal attacks, crew resignations,
rain disease, and foreclosure. All of these facts have to
do with attacks. Assistant director Doran Kopper was attacked and
mauled by a lion. During production of this film, he
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had his throat bitten open, his jaw was bitten, and
one of the attempted to rip his ear off. He
was also injured in the head, chest, and thigh, although
it has been reported that the attack nearly proved fatal.
The Santa Cruz Sentinel on July ninth, nineteen seventy eight
pritty to quote from a nurse saying his injuries were acute,
although what this really means is that his injuries were
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sudden and traumatic. He was also reported of being conscious
and in fair condition. He was still attacked and mauled
by a lion, and he was not the first, and
he probably was not the last. Our favorite film cinematographer
now Jan Debont has said that this picture was the
most intriguing, most demanding, and most challenging of his career.
He once said it was also pretty dangerous. Hour is
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the only picture I almost lost my head over. It
was frustrating at times, but I was hooked. The cats
were fascinating. They never did the same thing twice. The
technical problems were gigantic. When you shoot with five cameras simultaneously,
each has to be ingeniously disguised so they don't appear
in the shots. This was my first Hollywood film, and
I'll never be the same again. That was his first
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fucking job, and he was like, yeah, let's do it,
let's keep going. One hundred and twenty stitches on his
first job. I would never ever work with Noel Marshall again,
and I would have sued the fuck out of him.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Right. I remember how much I made at my first job,
and then it's not worth one hundred and twenty six stitches.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Nop uh. Director Noel Marshall's concept for this film was
to allow the big cats to do pretty much as
they wanted. Thereby, it was an unobtrusive scientific technique methodology
that is a mouthful finding the most natural and truest
expression of their personalities and behavior. So, dude, do a documentary.
Why are you doing this fucking shit where people are
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getting fucking bitten and all this other bullshit? But whatever, I.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Died because idiot.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Ye oh yeah, he's a fucking dumb ass. And I
doubt that they stayed married for long after the fucking
financial ruin that this caused them closing out. But the show,
I want to give you guys some fun facts about
lions because lions are actually pretty cool when they're not
mauling entire casting crews, so lions are considered truly social cats.
They live in groups called prides, which are usually consisted
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of females, their cubs, and a few dominant males. Male
lions are very lazy. They sleep up to twenty hours
a day, leaving to hunt mostly leaving the hunting mostly
to the females. Also, when the females want to mate
so that they can, you know, grow the pride and
the lions are lazy and won't wake up, they will
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bite the lions balls to wake them up.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
No one'll thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I'm just saying, so, how long we're Tippy and Noel together?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
So this movie's got done? Filming in nineteen eighty one, Yes,
they got divorced in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Two, fucking shocker. When did they get married? How long
were they married for?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Nineteen fifty two? So shit, okay, twenty twenty three years?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Oh shit? Is Melanie Griffith's father? Why the fuck is
her last name Griffith?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Because her first husband Peter Griffith nineteen fifty two to
nineteen sixty Noel Marshall. They were married. Oh, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. Nineteen sixty four, she married Noel Marshall. They
got divorced in nineteen eighty two. Then in nineteen eighty
five she married Louis Bachernkasha, and they divorced in nineteen
ninety two.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
So I'm looking at Melanie Griffith real quick. She was
married and divorced to Don Johnson in nineteen seventy six.
They got married and divorced in the same year, and
then she married him again in ninete it's not even
listed here.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Then they got sor right Wikipedia.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Oh, i'm Melanie. Then they got married again in nineteen
eighty nine, divorce in nineteen ninety six. But in between
that she was married to Stephen Bauer from nineteen eighty
one to nineteen eighty nine, and then she was with
Antonio Banderis from nineteen ninety six to twenty fifteen. Oh,
she's busy, busy lady.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
It's a picture of her in twenty sixteen. She looks
like a bad shoe with a fucked up nose.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, that's what a lot of plastic surgery will do
to you. She was very, very pretty, and she probably
would have aged wonderfully if she did not do that.
Her father's name Peter Griffith.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I know I saw that before, and I had to
reread it seven times because of whiskey, and I thought
it's at Peter.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Griffin tear pray Like I said, Lioness are the main hunters,
working together in coordinated strategies. Males protect the pride and
fend off intruders. Lions have a hunting success rate about
twenty thirty percent, meaning they fail more often than they succeed.
They can eat up to fifteen percent of their body
weight in one sitting same disease. If it's pasta, I'll
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fucking eat seventy pounds of pasta. Lionesses often give birth
around the same time. This helps cubs nurse communally, which
improves survival odds. Cubs have spots. They are born with
a rosette like spots that fade as they mature, and
it helps with them to camouflage in tall grass. When
a new male takes over a pride, he often kills
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all the cubs to bring the lionesses back in to heat,
but it's a biological and brutal strategy. Male lions grow
mains as a form of intimidation. A darker, fuller Maine
is a sign of high testosterone and good health health
it attracts mates and scares off rivals. I was curious
about that. I was talking to about that. I was like,
why do some of the lions have such short means
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and then the other ones have big, bushy, dark ones.
I was like, maybe it's just like genetics or something,
but it's actually just their testosterone levels. When they're like,
I'm the fucking alpha, which is stupid. I'm gonna be
big and burly. Could you imagine? Could you imagine if
you are like as a.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Huge I realize you're talking to a big and burly,
dark haired boy. Yeah, and you're like, being an alpha
is a dumb fucking thing.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
But being you're not bucking at me, I don't know
what I'm doing right now. Have you seen that fucking
girl on Instagram. I'm gonna have to send it to you.
It's this girl about like inappropriately bucking at random times.
It's just like the birth of someone's baby. It's like,
oh my god, she's so pretty and she's just like
and she like, it's so fucking fun Christ It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I'm sure you'll send it to me at four fifteen
am with thirty seven other reels.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You're goddamn right, I'm pebbling. Okay, I pebble the people
that I love.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Let me no, it's I've gotten into the When I
wake up in the morning, it's the first thing I
do is and then I get to the top of
all the reels you sent. I know this is an
audio podcast, so you couldn't see me vigorously swiping nine
times to get to the top.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Oh no, they could hear it, I'm sure. Last, but
certainly a lot leaves. There are such a thing as
white lions. They aren't considered albino. They are just a
rare color mutation of the Southern African lion caused by
a recessive gene. So enjoy those fun facts about lions.
I hope you like them. I enjoy researching them, and
I really enjoy lions. I like cats, so lions are
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just really big ones. I want to go to the
zoo now and look at lions, But then I feel
bad about them because they're in a zoo and they
shouldn't be there. It's a complicated feeling. So on that note,
thank you for listening to this episode of Monster Madness.
Remember to rate and support our show because we watch
these really bad movies for you guys, or you know,
just scream into the void like we do.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
That's what I do, because you know what we.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Should have screamed about. How nobody stopped this film from
being made. It still happened, and it shouldn't have. It
was bad, It was really bad.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
But I feel like there's there's a lot of movies
that you could argue someone should have stopped and they
never did.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I would have rather watched Beast Day again. At least
I laughed a couple of times watching that. Until next time, guys,
enjoy life.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Please save me Rock. It's not that.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Noisiness, instiness in anything and anything, essays Sash.