S04E33 - BigFootage: The Secret of Bigfoot pt 2

We're back with part two of our 2-part coverage of the 1976 episode of The Six Million Dollar Man that introduced a generation of kids to Bigfoot, and the idea that the creature might be interconnected with space aliens living inside a California mountain.Related
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Munster House presents last on the six Million Dollar Man.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
A geologist team was in the California Mountains planning new
earthquake sensors when suddenly, Harlee, Harlee, do you read?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (00:26):
There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a
track like this. My people named him Sasquatch.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
You call him bigfoot?

Speaker 5 (00:40):
You still think bigfoots of hoax.

Speaker 6 (00:43):
It's a remarkable look at his feet.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
It is unusual, say the least.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Let's test him.

Speaker 6 (00:59):
He's by far the most interesting man we've seen.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Let's do the newer Eulassic scan.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Now, right lake and right foot definitely niosynthetic or perhaps
first generation bionic.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
What country you're from?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Not what country?

Speaker 5 (01:20):
What world?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
And Steve doesn't know that a major earthquake is now
predicted all along the California coast and can only be
prevented by an earlier man made earthquake.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
There may be a way to weaken or actually prevent
that major quake.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
What smaller fault you want to explode?

Speaker 4 (01:36):
The one that starts right here and runs back into
the Martins.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Steve where.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Before we jump into part two? A quick note on
the audio quality for both these my old Mac Mini
finally became unstable for editing, so I switched to an
older gaming rig, which turned out to have hardware issues.
Now I've switched to Linux as the operating system, and
I thought that fixed everything until I discovered that the
OS was overriding the MIC settings, cranking the gain all

(02:17):
the way up to the max. So I fixed that now,
and I believe that future recordings on this box will
be normal. So thanks for bearing with me through this
technical chaos. Now let's unbutton those top few buttons and
glide in on our enormous collars into Part two of
the Secret of Bigfoot. Welcome to Monster Talk, the science

(02:39):
show about monsters.

Speaker 7 (02:41):
I'm Blake Smith.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
And I'm Karen Stolsner.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Well, hey there, Kieren, welcome back to part two of
the Secret of Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, good to be back again. Yeah and yeah, this
feels like a huge deep dive. But I think that
your enthusiasm for this is rather can take you. Well.

Speaker 7 (03:00):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
I just you know, again, this is sort of forbidden
fruit for me because I really wasn't supposed to be
watching this show, but come on, it's got big Foot
in it, you know. I was just such a Bigfoot nut.
I'll tell you something that I was I was kind
of thinking about the I was into Bigfoot because of
the library, and you know, most people around me didn't
really know anything about it. And so when this show hit,

(03:24):
it really mainstreamed Bigfoot into culture in a like broader
than I had ever seen. Almost like when the band
you love suddenly that little indie band suddenly has like
a big radio hit. You're like, oh, and everybody's going
to be talking about it, but they don't know, they
don't know how cool it is.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, didn't the Padson Gimmlin film do that to some
extent or kind of lay the groundwork for this?

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Right? You definitely wouldn't have this without the Patterson Gimlin film.
And I'm actually working on an article for the UK
Skeptic which is sort of a formalization of my scripted idea,
which is that really the PGF gave that sort of
visual cultural template. I mean, Bigfoot stories were kind of
all over the place prior to that, and after that,

(04:09):
it feels like everything started to look like Patty And
so you know, that's just how it is, I think.
But well, I'll work that out in the article. But
here I think, yeah, you probably wouldn't have this without
the PGF. These are you know, California people, California writers
working in California. I feel like, you know, it was
probably more they were more aware of Bigfoot out there

(04:31):
than maybe the general you know, East Coast, the flyover
states and all. So.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
But it's what I'm wondering. And maybe this isn't even pertinent,
but if this really did have such an impact on
people and their perception of Bigfoot, I wonder why there
aren't more claims today that aliens are behind bigot.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
That's a really good question. I there is. We've We've
talked before on the show about what I call the
paranormalists versus the you know, Pelson Paul people, right, and
in my opinion, I don't I have not done a
sort of ethnographic study on this or statistical study, but
I would say that the paranormalists are gaining ground rapidly,

(05:15):
and that includes the ufology people, I mean to some extent.
Ivan T. Sanderson, you know, and John Keel both entertained
the idea that these creatures might not just be animals,
you know, maybe there's something more. Maybe they're ultraterrestrial. Maybe
they're yeah, well again, it's a solid joke, but it's

(05:36):
also kind of it kind of makes sense. It really works, you.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Know, if you're predisposed to thinking that way.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah, I mean everybody's got their own epistemology to
some extent, and like, you know, as skeptics, we kind
of look for more evidence based, fact based, scientifically rigorous,
testable sort of things. But every culture has some kind
of hairy man. It seems like, you know, it seems

(06:03):
like they all have these monsters that live on the edge, right.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
It seems to be universal.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
And I think there was a homogenization of that concept
in the fifties and sixties, and it bled over into
pop culture in the seventies. So the people who were
serious about it as a biological premise helped promote it
in science discussions, but the people who liked it as
an adventure outlet put it into men's magazines, it got
into comic books, and here it's bled over into mainstream television. Now.

(06:33):
It would be good to, I think, maybe do a
little look and see what other TV shows had dealt
with Bigfoot prior to this. I'm sure there were some
I don't think this is the first. This was just
such a popular show and for it hit so many
kids right in the time when they were most open
to you know, thinking about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, I think that would be worth pursuing, because, certainly
in my own research, when you think there's an example,
this is the first time that this ever happened, and
then you deal deeper into the past to find out,
oh no, that this had happened before. So there's probably
some kind of precedent somewhere.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
As I mentioned in part one, nineteen seventy six was
a bit of a banner year for Bigfoot, with movies Sasquatched,
The Legend of Bigfoot and Creature from Black Lake both
hitting theaters. But in the early nineteen seventies the Patterson
Gimlan film had been taken on a tour of the
Pacific Northwest. In nineteen seventy five saw the very popular
independent film The Mysterious Monsters with Peter Graves, clips of

(07:36):
which have been included in this show's interest since the
very first episode. And in nineteen seventy seven, Bigfoot would
make more cultural tracks with In Search Of and the
rigorously scientific documentary series Bigfoot and Wild boy.

Speaker 8 (07:54):
Out of the Great Northwest comes the legendary Bigfoot, who
eight years ago saved a young child law than the
vast wilderness and raised that child until he grew up
to be wild boy.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Surely, and well, I mean again, not so. The Bigfoot
culture only really takes off because of the Yetti, you know,
and and the YETI is an ancient idea, but it's
not just Harry Munch from the mountains. It's got these
important religious and cultural Buddhist ideas and regional ideas that

(08:30):
get sort of chipped off and sanded off. So it
could just be another weird animal we haven't yet discovered.
But that's you know, it's not that it's so much
more than that. And so.

Speaker 7 (08:40):
But in America, we've talked about.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Tom Slick and his expeditions to try to find the Yetti,
and it was much less expensive to set the same
a team of trackers to hunt Bigfoot in America. And
so the Patterson Giblin film of course big influence. That
the Tom Slick work big influence. And uh, the the

(09:03):
big newspaper hoax that gave us the name Bigfoot, the
Ray Wallace stuff, that's big influence. But this brought it
home for the kids.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Man, I guess we get back to it.

Speaker 7 (09:18):
The only thing I want to.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Add from the last episode, because we do start out
with a recap, uh, like like a really long recap.
There's a lot of really funny sexual innuindow in this show.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
And it's blatant stuff too.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, some of it is explicit, some of it's double
on Tandra. But Shalon, I keep wanting to call her
sharing Shalon salon On. Yeah, it's Fallon, Fallon and Shalon
she really wants to do a unastic on on Steve
Austin and uh, she even wants to do a unastic

(09:57):
on his garments, And I don't know what that really means.

Speaker 8 (10:00):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
That kind of passed me by, And so I guess
I thought they were acronyms or something because to prove
how sciencey they are, I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yeah, well we'll get into that. But it is, it is,
it is. There's a whole lot of make them up
stuff in here, and we're going to dive in on that.
But yeah, a whole lot.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, down to the concept too.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Well indeed, But to answer your question, Bigfoot in UFOs
really kind of come to the fore ground Stan Gordon's
research about Pennsylvania Bigfoot and the ties to ufology.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
We'll come full circle.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Yeah, I'll put a link to his I put it.
In fact, I did put a link to his work
in the first show notes on the first episode. So,
h Stan Gordon, he's still alive, very friendly guy. I
would love to talk to him sometime and we should,
we should do that.

Speaker 7 (10:44):
But he's he's uh.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
He He definitely did not do what Josh Cutchen calls
weird watching. He left the weird d and he's one
of the few researchers who did. He didn't try to
make this into an absolutely natural animal because the stories
were stranger than that, and they often are. But you
know when people don't want to be podcast Yeah, exactly,
exactly exactly. So all right, so we come back and

(11:09):
we get this long, long replay of what happened before,
and I'm actually going to use that as the intro
to this episode, because it's like it's a four I
think it's a four minute long intro that what happened though.

Speaker 9 (11:22):
Here's what I save them some time.

Speaker 7 (11:23):
Right in the interim.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Between our two recordings here, I went and listened to
a really cool podcast called Cyborg And now remember the
novel that the series.

Speaker 9 (11:35):
Is based on.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
It's called Cyborg and they're doing basically an episode by
episode watched through and they're really knowledgeable. Some of the
guys on the show have actually contributed to DVDs from
the series. So they're very well done, fun show, but
full of information and a lot of it's coming from
the Bionic book the six Million Dollar Man and the
Bionic Woman reconstructed by Herbie J. Plato, and they mine

(12:03):
from there, but they get on real guests who actually
participated anyway with they say that it turns out that
the writer had originally intended this to be one episode,
but it ran too long, and so instead of like

(12:25):
doing a ninety minute movie, we got show. Well yeah yeah.
Instead of instead of doing one like over chalked episode
and cutting stuff, they decided, why don't we pad it
out and make two full episodes out of it? And
we've never done that here, so.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Well that was wise. I mean, Bigfoot, Aliens, earthquake is
just too much fodder for one episode.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
This I think even now, these two episodes could be
edited down into like a solid seventy seventy five minute movie,
like a really good one, but the things they sacrifice
are really weird.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
Like I didn't get into it.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
In episode one.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
I'll tell you so, this is not about the plot.
This is about execution. They've got under the Giant and
they've got Lee Majors, and there's a really great fight
in season one and it ends when Lee Majors pulls
Bigfoot's arm off.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Right, so supposing the cords and right.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
And Shelan or she takes Bigfoot back and she's going
to fix them and make it better, which suggests there's
going to be around two and it's gonna be awesome.
But what actually happens is sacrifice. Because there was supposed
to be a huge scene of them fighting, all tearing
up the lab and all this other stuff, and the

(13:51):
budget just didn't support it, and so they cut it.
And the way they executed here, I think it didn't
bother me on watching it, but listening to those guys
explaining what it was like, you know, for them as
Giant fans of the series, because they were they were
actually allowed to get invested in the series, they were
watching it regularly, whereas this interfered with a lot of
church activities and so it always got bumped in favor

(14:12):
of the church life of About Family, so that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
That's unfair. But did you see the Matt sent you
a couple of videos from YouTube, and there was one
with Lee Major's being interviewed about these two episodes, and
he was talking about how these were among his favorites
and the most talked about episodes as well.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
And he talks about the show off. I mean he
gets to do his own stunts. That the trampoline jump
over that rock again I mentioned in the first episode.
It's a solid stunt. I mean it looks like he's
super jumping over this rock and he's got to be
coming down six feet and landing on the ground.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
That's that's a hard jump, you know.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
But he was also talking about Andre the giants and
bearing down on him and how frightened he was and he's, oh,
I'm going to really get hurt. But because he had
been a wrestler, yes he had, he had all the
moves and he managed to do what he did without
hurting him. So that was pretty remarkable.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Yeah, Andre is very famous in wrestling circles for how
much beer he could drink without it having any.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Impact about that, yeah, a whole case, and he'd eat
a whole chicken. Or he said something about how they
had these different options to eat on set. You can
have fish, or you can have chicken, or you can
have beef, and heat wanted everything and more and huge appetite.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yes, yeah, he was a man of extraordinary appetites. But
he had a huge heart and was such a just
he seemed like just such a good chi Yeah yeah,
well also true. Yeah, I've watched some documentaries about him.
He's quite a character. So anyway, but they had this
huge recap and then we hop in and remember when

(15:49):
we left off, there's a cliffhanger. So the cliffhanger is
they're going to have to blow up a nuke to
trigger a small earthquake to prevent a massive earthquake that
will kill Let me, okay, let's be honest. It would
kill hundreds of thousands of people. They say hundreds. It
would be way more than that if it's affecting Los Angeles,
San Francisco, all the way down to San Diego.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
It was like that in the nineteen hundred and six exactly.
But I'm just wondering how scientifically accurate that was about
relieving pressure.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Well, the way they did it not at all. And
I'll tell you there's a there's a line in here.
We'll get to it. But they talk about we're going
to bury this atomic weapon five hundred feet under the ground.
That is not enough hole, that is five hundred feet
away from an atomic blast. I don't care how much

(16:41):
dirt you.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Have, but for the time maybe that's I think that was.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Some lazy writing. But I mean it's cool. We never
see their drilling mechanism, but they say they're using a
special laser drill to set the bomb, which that's pretty cool,
which explains why they're not out there with a trenching machine.
They're just.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
But they didn't think fifty years on people would still
be haggling them debate.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Well, also true. Yeah, I don't imagine there was a
science consultant.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
On probably ignored. Yeah. Yeah, it reminds me of the
TV show when I was a kid called Beyond two
thousand in Australia.

Speaker 10 (17:21):
Yes, welcome to Beyond two thousand and just.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
How amusing everything is nowadays to see how little we've
progressed in many ways and in other ways. It's very impressive.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
But yeah, that was well, I ever finished my technology book.
If I finished my technology book, going to be the
will to One of the main lessons is progress is
not guaranteed at all. In fact, I found pretty good
reason why it wouldn't be. And it's really funny. But
it's helped me come to peace with the fact that
we're not living in the Star Trek world and probably

(18:15):
never will, largely because that the pressure. Yeah I can't,
I won't get into it, but it has helped me
sleep at night and stopped.

Speaker 7 (18:23):
I'm not shaking my fist.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
At the at the at the system anymore. And I
think that's progress for me. Right.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, So, you know.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
These people from in the future, so obviously we're going
to see some incredible technology starting with an alien business conference.
I like this conference room.

Speaker 9 (18:42):
It's very it's very modern, it's very minimalist. You know.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
Well, we can see their faces now.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
And in part one everything was like soft focus or
shadows or weird lighting. There was some really interesting direction
people you know. So, but but here's this looks like
a regular, regular sort of business conference and they basically
just lay it out for Steve, like, you know, we're
here to study your guys, you know, we do not,

(19:12):
you know, we're just watching. We can, and they kind
of reveal over time that they've been watching.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
For a long time, kind of boyeuristic.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Yeah, they've been there for two hundred and fifty years,
but subjectively only two because they can use their machine
to basically move forward in time at a different rate.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Okay, yeah, I missed that.

Speaker 7 (19:35):
It's that they've got this device called the TLC.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
This is the most marvelous device that our science has created,
just a timeline confer or TLC. It allows us to
speed up our own individual progression through time relative to
our surroundings.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Well, then you can pass a whole day in.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
One minute, oh second, if we wanted.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
We have been here for two hundred and fifty years,
but as a group, we have moved quickly from time
to time, so to speak. So that wow, two hundred
and fifty years have passed on Earth, only two years
have passed.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
For us controller. But basically that's how they're able to
like disappear and reappear. They can control it on their
bodies or their entire base. They can move it forward
in time.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
And so I like the way too that they said, well, look,
we will answer all of your questions, will everything and then.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
Memory exactly because you'll never tell anyone.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
Well, and that was very ominous.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
That sounded, yeah, really ominous threat. That's I was worried
about where that was going to go.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
One of their guys is definitely a jerk, and it
was it's really funny.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Because he's yeah, he sneezes and uh.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Steve Oast is likea zoom tide or bless you, and
and he was like, I've developed an allergy to your planet.
And Jimmy, he's like, they've cured every disease except allergies
and snark that's discrimination. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 9 (21:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
So that Wow, two hundred and fifty years have passed
on Earth. Only two years have passed for us.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
It still seems like two hundred and fifty years to me,
the two hundred and fifty years allergies.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
The TLC has other applications, such.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
As providing the mild amusement of going from place.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
To place.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Seemingly in the blink of an eye.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
A quick answer here. That snarky alien Fallon is played
by Charles Seipher's He started in so many genre works
before passing away in twenty twenty four. Horror and genre
fans like myself will know Ciphers primarily for his recurring
work with John Carpenter. He started an assault on pre
Sect thirteen Halloween, where he played the sheriff across several

(21:53):
sequels The Fog Escape from New York, and I could
go on, but you get the point. He really dies
into this character though, this snarky alien, and he seems
to be having a lot of fun with it, so
much so that he comes back to reprise the role
in a follow up two parter called Return of Bigfoot
later in the series. So it's again, we're probably not

(22:20):
viewing this. You're not viewing it like a kid who
watched it, and I'm not viewing it like just a
general fan, because I'm trying to see how this show
ties into the bigger picture of how Bigfoot's developed culturally.
And I think in this scene you're seeing this sort
of syncretic narrative because these Bigfoot stories here, they're being

(22:43):
all sort of rolled into this narrative of alien manipulation.
And it's one of the reasons I think this whole
thing is important. They're kind of playing out this scripted
idea of how you know stories can affect how people
perceive things because they've made the story Bigfoot is an ancient,
you know, Native American legend, and and now they've manipulated

(23:06):
that by who they allowed to see the monster and
who they allow to remember the monster, and they they're
basically controlling the narrative from their little science hole over here.
So and according to this narrative, all stories of Bigfoot
are just misunderstood encounters with an alien creature who's in
turn part of a bigger picture that we're not actually
equipped to understand are meant to understand it is. And

(23:30):
that that's very killian, that's very John Keel And.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
I guess I hadn't thought of it through that lens.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Yeah, and I don't think most people should. You should
just enjoy Steve Austin running no.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
No, no, no, no, no, no, well overthinking it.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
But here we cut back to Oscar Goldman and Tom
the geologist, and they're very casually planning to set off
an atomic bomb to to stop this earthquake. And now
that is ridiculous on the one hand, but it is

(24:05):
not something that they made up that comes from this
whole idea that kind of comes out of the hydrogen
bomb program. There were all these serious considerations from the
government for using hydrogen weapons to make roads and tunnels
and infrastructure. Didn't know who it's crazy town stuff. It's like,

(24:29):
it's horrifying now. But at the time they were like, well,
maybe we can do this, you know, maybe we can
do that. And no, no, not really.

Speaker 11 (24:38):
To bring water and food where there's only parts dirth
and people where there it's desolation. To bring free book
movement where there are imposing barriers, and commerce where nature
has decreed there will be isolation. To bring forth a
wealth of materials where there are vast untapped resources, and
a wealth of knowledge where there is uncertain, to perform

(24:59):
a altitude of peaceful tasks for the betterment of mankind.
Man is exploring a source of enormous, potentially useful energy,
the nuclear explosion. He sees the potentials and he sees
the problems. To investigate both and to develop the technology
that will turn potentials into realities, the United States is

(25:22):
conducting for the benefit of all nations, a program it
calls Plowshare.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Also, ironically, when we were making this, putting theavy together
for this show, we had an earthquake in Knoxville, Tennessee,
and I couldn't feel it in the basement, but upstairs
on the top floor, my kids could feel the earthquake
and they freaked out and thought there was an earthquake,
and I was like, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
But in California, they well go to battlement.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
All over the roll all the time, but they're not
usually strong enough to really feel. And I think this
one was a three point nine. But you can go
to the USGS website while we still have it at
least a yeah, but you can go there and you
can see real time data or nearly real time data
when a quake.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Happens, so it's very active in California. I used to
watch that when I lived there, and it was astonishing
how many there were just all the time. You just
wouldn't feel a lot of them. But sometimes I would
come home from being somewhere and a perfume bottle would
be knocked over, and so there signed that there was
a tremor. But I did think in the orlter guys,

(26:38):
So you know, I never thought of that until now
opened my eyes.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
What's wrong with.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
It? Just assumed tremor, But I thought the tremors in
the Secret of Bigfoot were rather earthquake like, like, rather
higher on the Richter scale than a tremor.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Yes, yeah, I would. I would think, uh, well, you
know again, I think there's like a three point ninety four.
I mean, I know, it's one of those exponential scales,
so the high it goes, it gets way worse.

Speaker 9 (27:09):
Yes, absolutely, and uh again I laughed.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
But when my kids told me, and I was like, okay,
let's go check and see. Does that make any sense?

Speaker 7 (27:17):
I was like, holy crap, it does make sense.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
And I was like, okay, well, now answer me. This
kid's how come I was in the basement, awake and
alert and didn't feel anything, but you guys felt something.
And I had them kind of work through that. It's like,
because the house is like a full crumb and we're
getting a magnified effect because we're two stories up.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
And I'm like, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Lessons Yeah, and that happened to me as a kid too.
We had an earthquake in Sydney and it was I
think just a maybe a two, but in other parts
of the country nearby Newcastle a few hours away, it
was about a four and people died. It was so weird.
It really brought down a couple of buildings. But I'm
remember feeling it thinking, well, earthquakes don't happen here. We

(28:03):
don't get earthquakes in Sydney. But the sure was.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
Yeah, I believe they happened just about everywhere because where
there's plates meeting plates, you know, in.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Some parts, Yeah, like New Zealand, places like New Zealand and.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Or fall Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
My brother used to work there who he worked in
Japan for a little while, and he would tell me
about these horrifying ones where the buildings would wave and
just really really terrifying. Has to be they can.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Be, but you want your building to move like that.
That's that's the crazy thing. The scarier they are, like,
it's probably the safer because it means the building and flexibility.
It's not it's the rigidity that's really dangerous from what
I understand. Just like, if you have lots of little
quakes all the time, I believe I'm not geologists. I
know we have geologists listeners. Let me know if I'm

(28:48):
wrong on the lots of them. Yeah, I believe a
lot of little quakes actually is helpful to relieve stress
and you don't want them building up over time. That's
where the real big dangers come.

Speaker 9 (29:00):
You go.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
So again there's some science to the secret big Foot.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
I mean, you do want to let that that pressure out,
you know occasionally.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, okay, well I'm learning things today.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Well I tell you I loved as a as a
as a nerd. The next section that happens, Tom is, uh,
he's he's he's been talking the whole time. Again. It's
it's not it's just a TV show. But there's parts
of this that I get real excited about. And one
of them is Tom this whole science subplot about this

(29:32):
earthquake and how they're using sensors and trying to feed
that back to the national database and then use that
to make predictive models of what's going to happen. That's
the dream man. That's why we have all these networks
monitoring stuff. I mean, that's what we want. It just
turns out that these systems are a lot more complicated
and kind of like weather from what we can tell.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Where we're unpredictable exactly science exactly.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
And so he's in this perfect world they live in.
He's like, Uh, we're gonna have a good test here.
We don't know if we're gonna have to set that
bomb off, but we'll know because we're gonna have, according
to our predictions. In seventeen minutes, we're gonna get a
little a quake, and that'll tell us how accurate we are.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
So I think everything's gonna be okay.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Oh it's such classic writing. I mean, it's just like
I'm a play. The model's wrong, We're wrong.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yay, tell me something, Caernel, What makes a woman attractive
in your world?

Speaker 5 (30:33):
So then we cut back to the aliens, and again
this is as a kid. This just I hated this
because I didn't want Steve Austin in this this Shalan
character flirting around with each other. But she gets right
into the gets into the romantic music, the soft lighting,
and she's like, what makes a woman attractive in your world?

Speaker 9 (30:54):
Oh my god, she's flowing hard species.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, tell me something, Cannel.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
What makes a woman attractive in your world? Well, that
depends on who you talk to.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
For me, a woman needs intelligence, sense of.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
Humor, physical attributes.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
I'll love a little bit of helps.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Why what sort of man would you consider attractive?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Someone like you?

Speaker 5 (31:33):
Oh? So here's and then we cut back and they're
going to do the test and then yeah, as we said,
it's going to be.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Stand by General six seconds five four three two one.
That should have happened. What happened to the tremor? The

(32:02):
sensor must be wrong. No tremor now, no earthquake. Later, Tom,
sign those releasing papers and get that atomic warhead back
to the arsenal.

Speaker 7 (32:10):
Right, General, we've got good news.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
The tremor did not I repeat, did not occur, and
we don't have to worry about it again, long long.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Long, Oh no, it actually is right, Yeah, and I
love how Tom comes back.

Speaker 7 (32:35):
It's like, hey, I found the bug.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
It was my software, you know, I just made a miscalculation.
Now we know exactly what time the big quick's coming,
and we've got to get that nuke planet. So they
had already brought in the atomic weapon. The aliens don't
seem to care, and we'll hear more about that about
why that is.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
They're worried about them species.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
But when the little quake happens, Steve Austin stands up
in uses his bionic arm to hold up the roof
like Atlas, while they basically use their alien future technology
to stick a pole.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, yeah, it.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Really was. I was like, what kind of crazy technology.
Oh yeah, they can engineer a giant robot Bigfoot or
bionic Bigfoot, but they when it comes to holding up
the roof in a cave, it's a wooden pole with
the metal cap. You know.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
It's like, oh and again not a trema much more.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
Yeah, yeah, well that's true. It was. It was pretty big.
But I am not familiar with earthquakes very well. So
the terminology is all over the place, you.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Know, so's some definitions there.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
Yeah, some of those words apparently show scale as well
as the activity. I didn't know that. That's interesting. But
we got back to Tom, who has figured out the
error in his software, and you know, so now they're
going to have to set off this bomb and Oscar
Goldman there's a okay, I know this was done for budget, right,

(34:04):
but they did it. They basically showed stock footage of
San Francisco, and they're discussed through in a radio conversation
where he's talking to the authorities.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
I guess in the sort of the.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Equivalent of whatever he'd be whatever the equivalent of FEMA is, right.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I don't know what it was, but it was cool
to see all the old footage the Bay area and
exactly bridge and the cause and everything.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
General Turner speaking general, This is Oscar Goldman of the OSI. Yeah, sir,
you want to place the troops in my dispose a
lone yellow.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Alert rather way, So what's the situation profile?

Speaker 2 (34:39):
There is a possibility, and I repeat, the possibility of
a major earthquake striking all along the California coast.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Earthquake, sir, that's right. Shall we begin any sort of evacuation?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
No, but I want your units on a media standby,
and I want Los Angeles to Santiago advised right away.
We are planning to trigger a smaller point up here
to relieve the pressure. That doesn't work, I want your
men ready to involve the public and tank emergency measures.

Speaker 7 (35:04):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
It's like, I know this is for budgetary purposes, but
I found it incredibly effective. But what that you're actually
saying is he's like, yeah, he could wipe out these cities.
It could be really devastating. The guy on the other
ends like, so we should evacuate. Not yet?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, give it a few Not yet.

Speaker 7 (35:23):
I mean, well, you know, why not air all this
side of caution?

Speaker 5 (35:27):
I mean, I guess maybe if you tell people the
big ones coming, it creates more havoc. But if they're
playing works, they're going to be able to let the
pressure off and they'll have a bad quake up in
their area. But you won't have this devastating lex Luthor
level event where you define it the coastline.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Now, call me fool, call me irresponsible.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
It occurs to me that a five hundred megaton bomb
planet is just a proper point, would.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Destroy most of California.

Speaker 10 (36:00):
Millions of innocent people would be killed on the West
coast as we know, it would.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Fall into the sea my by California.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Cutting back to the lab, Steve and uh and Sheelan
are discussing medicine, but the conversation turns itself to their medicine.
He's really basically asking all kinds of really cogent questions
about this alien culture and what do they got, what

(36:33):
do they don't got?

Speaker 9 (36:33):
That kind of thing forget about.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
Yeah, so they've developed this drug, Neo Traxon three, which
is this super drug and it cures basically everything again
except allergies and snark.

Speaker 7 (36:45):
Right, and so.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
Steve Austin is clearly he immediately is thinking, I should
get some of that and uh and take that home
with me. But you know, she she's going to raise
his mind, so he doesn't really know what to do
about that.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
But we picked that up again later.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
We certainly do, don't we.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
So Selana, she gives this inny window filled a bunch
of background information, and I mean, wow, but she's telling
information while she's flirting, and I had to wonder does
that make this sex.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Position nice one?

Speaker 5 (37:28):
But I mean, this in the window is there?

Speaker 7 (37:30):
This line really kills me.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
I don't seem to have the proper instrument. I need
one like.

Speaker 9 (37:36):
This, only curved.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
You know I didn't pick that up either. I guess
you have to go back and watch these again.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Yeah, because this is because in preparing for this this thing,
I think I ended up watching it like three times.
So I'm a nice Well yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
But that's when I think the second third watch is
when you do pick up a lot of these things. Yeah,
and the first watch you just overwhelmed with everything that's
happening exactly.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
But all I'm saying is it looks like she really
does want to put a unastic on his garments, if
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
So she's bringing a hell of a lot of jewelry too.
I thought she is like the diamonds.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
Boy they do it was again that wig in that
hot body suit. My goodness anyway, but she needs this,
she needs her She's basically holding up a pair of
pincer pliers and she's like, I anyone like this, like curved,
And then Steve bends it with his hands and I
got it looks like an erection. I mean, you know,

(38:35):
I mean it, and it makes this noise and all
I can think is now for the rest of the time,
I think of this, that noise effect is going to
be the bionic erection for me. And it's just that's
what we're stuck with it this way in my thinking,
it could just be me again. Listeners, especially Patron, let
me know. You let me know if I'm off.

Speaker 9 (38:54):
Base here, you know, get replies.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
We sure will, all right. So they're doing maintenance to
fix mister Bigfoot, and there's all kinds of information here.
It's a lot of techno optimism. And I mean in
that sense, even though there are aliens under Mount Shasta,
I think it's a little different from the way these
sort of ascended masters of that came out of sort

(39:19):
of theosophy are are thought of, but yet they do
have secret knowledge they are a higher being in some sense.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
It's really complicated.

Speaker 9 (39:31):
Yeah, for US media, Yeah it is.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
And I mean I mean just this idea of ascended
masters living in the mountains is you know, it's an
import right, I mean that originally.

Speaker 7 (39:41):
Starts over in the Maya's very much.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
Yeah, it absolutely is. It sort of affects the US
here on the West coast with Mount Shasta, and then
it's it ties into the Buharics Sended Masters stuff on
the East Coast, which the turn goes back out to
the West coast with the Stanford res Institute.

Speaker 7 (40:01):
It's all interconnected.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
So I mean, even if they're just toying with it here,
I don't in any way think that the author of
this episode was deeply plugged into this stuff. On the contrary,
I think he was pulling from the culturally available information
of living in California at the height of the New
Age and just bringing that into his fiction. I think

(40:24):
that's what we're seeing here.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Absolutely. Yeah, that's a really good way to put it.
I think because having lived there myself for almost ten years,
there's still a lot of that around absolutely, oh yeah,
And it's just such a mishmash of beliefs and theories
and so I think that fact what they took these
liberties is just fun.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
So as we're getting through this part too episode, you're
going to feel like it's going pretty fast, and it
is because again, narratively, there's not much here. There's huge
sections of running around and poking around and chit chatting
about stuff, but it's not moving the platform or per se.
But we're now ticking down to the big this atomic

(41:06):
bomb going off, and again they are only five hundred
feet above the bomb, and Steve Austin is going to
be the situation here. It's it's real.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
It's they're worried about him too.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
Yeah, they are not worried about oscars, worried about him.
But when it comes to saving hundreds of people, what
is this? By the way, does that basically make this
a giant New Age trolley problem?

Speaker 7 (41:27):
This is a giant UFO trolley problem.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
Or you know that, like you know, which does to
make more senys to save our you know, twenty aliens
versus well many of them?

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I guess there are more than we know.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
But yeah, yeah, when when the disaster strikes, you'll see
a lot of unnamed characters in jumpsuits laying around with
giant paper mache rocks on them. But but we're not
there quite yet. What happens is Steve tries to the
Aliens because when Selan gets called away while he is,

(42:05):
you know, getting his sort of science debriefing, and I
think she wants to debrief in more ways than one,
if you know what I mean. Anyway, he's left alone
with his console and he uses his bionic brain. And
I'm not really joking about that. It's not supposed to
be a bionic brain, but in this episode, one of
the things he does is he uses his eye to
see them using time manipulation, which only really makes sense

(42:28):
is either he records it in high speed slows it down,
or he is able to speed his brain up to
process this information.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
So yeah, we don't know.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
Yeah, I mean, it's obviously not really that. It's just
writer of being a little lazy here, but the implication
is he's extra smart, right, And so he looks in
this console, he figures out how to turn it away
from the military or the alien base and go back
and see what's happening. He perfectly picks up Oscar Goldman,

(42:58):
explaining the entire thing that they've got. I mean, it
was perfectly time for him to get a depbriefing. And
what does he do? Does he run away? No, Steve
Austin is a good guy. He goes to tell the aliens,
you guys are in danger, you know, like you're in
big danger. They're gonna set up an atomic bomb and
it's gonna mess us all up. And they tell him, no,

(43:22):
it's not gonna mess them all up, because they're gonna
stop the bomb. And he was like, no, no, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
That's one of the most desly populated areas of our country.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Even with adequid warning, hundreds of people will be killed.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
He stopped the bomb.

Speaker 7 (43:33):
Literally, hundreds of.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Human beings will done.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Hundreds.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
So's she's gonna use this TLC device to super speed
her way over to where the bomb is and disable it.
And then so Steve Austin has to use his bionic
speed and strength and he basically pushes past the aliens
before they can grab their TLC's and stop him. And
then he just knocks over all this equipment, uh to

(44:03):
get out of there and he's got to get to
her before she gets disabled the bomb, and and she's
got a machine that makes her as fast as the flash.
You know. I mean it's it's it's.

Speaker 9 (44:14):
Gonna be closed on her belt.

Speaker 7 (44:16):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
That. Yeah that that That's not his biggest obstacle though,
because he has to get through that big tunnel that
spins around and standing on the other side its Bigfoot.
And now this is not the old Bigfoot from the
first episode. This is the new and improved Bigfoot that
was repaired with those bent pliers, right, so we know

(44:40):
this is this is this Bigfoot is ready for battle.
He's tougher, stronger than he ever has been before. And
they've really sets you up as a fan to see
a huge and epic battle.

Speaker 7 (44:51):
M do we get a huge and epic battle, Karen?

Speaker 1 (44:55):
No.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
She he throws Bigfoot into a computer and leaves him.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
But it's like, yeah, I think I.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
Talk about disappointment. The only thing more disappointing is that
Jamie Summers never shows up, because that also was a
bait and switch. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, there were a few there, for sure, But yeah,
I guess they're just kind of running out of time
at this point. Yeah, to get to the earthquake.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
They got to get to that. So Steve successfully he
knocks big Foot out of the way.

Speaker 7 (45:24):
He gets out of this this cave.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
He uses his bionic vision to spot her in three
thousand acres of rule.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
His strength increased or something. You know those stories where
someone has to lift a car, Say someone I.

Speaker 7 (45:40):
Sight is like boosted by adrenaline.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
I don't know, but he's able to spot her somehow
and then runs straight to her and stops her. And
then not even does he stop her, but he's concerned
about the atomic bomb blowing up five hundred feet away
that maybe that's dangerous, so he runs, or.

Speaker 7 (45:57):
At least that's what I thought. I thought he was
concerned about the bomb.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
What he's actually concerned about is that the bomb is
going to set off the earthquake, and then that's where
the real danger is.

Speaker 7 (46:07):
So he's trying to get her into safety.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
So he runs her to a rock shelter where they
experienced this pretty impressive TV earthquake. I mean, you know,
when you think about the Yeah, I thought that was
pretty well done. I mean it's better than on the
you know, the the Dutch tilt on the enterprise when
they get hit by a missile or something. So it
was pretty good. He even gets knocked in the head

(46:30):
at one point and kind of kind of has the little,
you know, a little out of it moment. But the
two of them argue about she's she thinks everybody in
her base is dead now, and they have that discussion.
They actually try She tries to talk him out of
stopping her. He tries to talk her into letting him,
and he has to kind of force the issue.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
She changes her tune because you think she's kind of
almost ready to leave them for him, and then suddenly no,
she's worried about about who she really.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
Kind of she really is putting her own people first,
and he is too.

Speaker 7 (47:05):
But I think he's got the in this.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Imaginary, you know, alien trolley problem. He certainly has the
larger number of living sentient people at stake, you know,
to worry about you. Yeah, but you know, if you're
the one driving the trolley, you might care about your
own people first. I don't know.

Speaker 9 (47:22):
But anyway, what it all boils down to, as you.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Know, historically, Steve's successful and we don't lose California, so
but she's so depressed about how this turns out. She's
she doesn't even want to go back and look because
she's afraid all her friends will be squished, you know,
under rocks. But he convinces her. You know, you know
you're gonna regret it if you don't go. You gotta
go take a look, and what if they need help,

(47:47):
you know, maybe you could be the person who saves them.
But in the base is pretty messed up there, you know,
all of the props are flipped over, there's smoke, you know,
the lights are out, and people are But she's able.
They're able to use this time device, which is so cool,
to slow down the people's metabolism so they can wait

(48:11):
till they get the power back on and get the
surgery in it back up and running and then fix them.
So it's a really multi useful device. It's got a
lot of purposes for your plot, so it can do
any kind of plot repair.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, a lot of TV shows
need that.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
So in order to get the power back on, he's
going to need some help because there's some giant things
he's just not able to do by himself. And so uh,
Sheelan turns Bigfoot to help him, and the two of
them team up and it's just, oh my gosh, Karen,
it just it's just so cool to see the bionic

(48:47):
Man and the bionic Bigfoot working together.

Speaker 7 (48:50):
Because I'll be honest, as a.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
Kid, I saw a lot of non canonical battles played
out on playgrounds across America, and they usually do work.
They were not leaning towards cooperation and teaming.

Speaker 7 (49:03):
So it just turned out this was a model.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
Yeah, this was a good representation of what could be happening.
But what was really happening is Bigfoot was getting his
ass kicked by Steve Austin over and over again. You know.

Speaker 12 (49:14):
So, But the two of them, they they they I
think it's a pretty well put together sequence where they
move a lot of heavy stuff and then they get
down to the power unit and Steve is able to
do some basic electrical and plumbing, just like you would

(49:35):
in your home if there was a problem.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
Their alien power source is not some super secret thing
from the future or from their world, their future futuristic technology.
It's they've dug a volcanic vent and are using hydro
or what you got, geothermal power, and that's why this
era is unusually active right now is because of their

(49:58):
power supply, they're actually contribute to the problem. So but
he's able to fix that. Now they've let pressure off
the fault line, everything's gonna be fine, Everything's gonna be okay.
And there and again, I need to make another gift.
I got several gifts I owe the listeners. I'll update
the show notes for those. I've just been real busy
this weekend with some you know, family's Mother's Day family stuff.

(50:19):
But I that the scene where the two of them
are standing together and andre As Bigfoot just pat Steve
on the shoulder, like, well done. Oh my gosh, it's
so it's hard, it's heartwarming. It did it really, I
mean it kind of did. It was just so wholesome.
I mean, it was such a simpler time when when

(50:41):
atomic bombs and bionic people could solve all the world's problems.

Speaker 7 (50:44):
You know, exactly that kumbaya bon.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
But sadly we come to the part where Sheelan has
to erase Steve austin memory and then give him one
more smooch off the record. She took advantage of him
in another one of those you know, I get it,
you know, but it is quite a little bit of
masculating Bigfoot. Carrie unconscious Steve Austin out of the tunnel

(51:20):
like he was a doll.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Yeah, that kind of quirky, but like that saying about
you know, the looking on the beach, and there are
two sets of footsteps and then at times there's just one.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
And that's when it's Bigfoot. That should be our monster
talk version of that. Oh my god, that's killing me.
I'm not laughing as hard. If I laughed as hard
as I am on the inside, I would not breathe
right now.

Speaker 7 (51:50):
Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
I had Holy cow, that was really funny. Okay, Sorry,
now we cut to a career will break.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Where have you been?

Speaker 5 (52:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Were you hurting? The quake?

Speaker 5 (52:10):
That's quake.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
We had to trigger an earlier quake in order to
prevent another one down the coast.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
I didn't feel it. Did it work?

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Yes, the geologic pressure has been relieved.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
The soldiers an oscar find Steve in the woods and
again this is you know, this is Osi model nuclear weapons.
This isn't our generation. So there's no radiation or anything.
There's not a giant mile wide crater. There's just happy
and relieve people in a happy and relief fault line.
And uh, Steve, as far as he's concerned, he's just

(52:48):
woken up after going out to look. He's lost his
memory of everything.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Where have you been?

Speaker 5 (52:54):
I don't know?

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Were you hurting the quake?

Speaker 5 (52:59):
There's quake.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
We had to trigger an earlier quake in order to
prevent another one down the coast.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
I didn't feel it.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Did it work?

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Yes, the geologic pressure has been relieved.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah, just like the other couple.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
Yeah. There's this little beat at the end where he
reaches into his pocket and there's this blue liquid. He
doesn't know what it is, and we all know it's
the neo tracks in three and he hands it to
Oscar and says they'll have it analyzed, and we're like,
oh ah, this is definitely going to be a world
changing event. And then Salon says goodbye, and I mean

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promises future stories, right, and so Selon says goodbye from
her console and that we cut to the music. But
I again, I have not gone back. There are further
Bigfoot episodes. There's another two parter I think called the
Return of Bigfoot, and then there's yet another one. So
the guys on Cyborg called that one big Foot five,
and we did talk about how that they change out

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Andre the Giant for Ted Cassidy, but they don't keep
enough continuent. They keep enough continuity to have it be
the Aliens. They have Shelan come back, but they don't.
Oscar apparently just messes up and doesn't use the Neo Traxi,
so they need to go find more. It's like.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Trouble today.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
Yeah, yeah, exactly if it hadn't it for Oscar, Like, oh, Oscar,
I'm shaking my fist at you. Why you know, old.

Speaker 9 (54:29):
Man, they screwed up.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
Anyway, I think that concludes are two part uh six
million dollar man introduction of Bigfoot.

Speaker 7 (54:45):
I just I loved it. What did you think?

Speaker 5 (54:47):
I mean, I know this is not your it doesn't
this doesn't have the nostalgia kick that it has for me.
But what did you think?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
As I said, I think you'll You'll exuberance has been contagious,
and I thought it was fun. I mean, it was
of its time. You couldn't compare it to anything right
today obviously, so for it's time. I can certainly imagine
just how fun that would have been watching that as
a kid, and just just the imagination and just I

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mean still a lot of those things are around today,
aren't they. I mean all the beliefs about aliens and
Bigfoot and and I guess seismology is still and then
exact science, so something's never still.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
Incredibly important to people in California.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Yeah, yeah, oh absolutely, Yeah, having lived there as long
as I did, Yeah, I know that full well. And yeah,
so I think that this is still worth watching, absolutely
and a lot of fun and you know it is
it is what it is too.

Speaker 7 (55:48):
Thank you so much, Karen for joining me on this journey.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
That was a lot of unexpected fun, it really was.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
We'll be back next week.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Yeah, it's always something exciting. Stay tuned.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
That's right, all right, Patrion bonus.

Speaker 7 (56:05):
We we talked about Big Bigan is gonna come back, but.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
He's gonna be played by Ted Cassidy, and there's a
lot of uh, there's a lot of mystery about right well.
Ted Casside, who played Lurch on The Adams Family. He
did so much voice where you'll hear him in so
many hand of bar bar cartoons.

Speaker 7 (56:21):
He's all I loved him.

Speaker 9 (56:23):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
He was in Butch Castles and this kid though in
one of the best scenes in the movie in my opinion.
There's gonna be a fight.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
I think his name is Henry. He wants to Cassie
has been away for a while and he comes back
and Henry wants to fight him for who's gonna be
in charge of the gang. And it's just a great sequence.

Speaker 8 (56:43):
No, no, not yet, not to me and Harve.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
We get the rules straightened out, rules and a knife fight.
No rules, Well.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
There ain't gonna be any rules.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Let's get the fights done.

Speaker 8 (56:53):
If someone kind of won two three go Wan to three.

Speaker 10 (56:55):
Go, I was really rooting for you, but.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
Well, thank you, flat nose. So the recast Bigfoot, I
guess it means the Bigfoot, like his famous footprints, had
to be recast.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
That clever. But I do want to ask why did
they recast them?

Speaker 7 (57:28):
Well, okay, good question.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
The general consensus is that Andre the Giant got more
famous after this, significantly more.

Speaker 7 (57:39):
It would have cost too much.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
Plus, wrestling pays really well when you're a superstar like
he was, and it's hard to make time when you're
making oodles of money on the circuit. To go not
work for several weeks, it interferes with everybody's schedule. If
you're the headliner, when your star can't be there, it

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really messes up the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Sure, yeah, now that makes sense. But even still, it
seems like this is these were such cult episodes that
you think that they would have wanted to revisit them.

Speaker 9 (58:12):
But things happen with actors a lot of the time.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
It's not the money, it's that they're working on something
else and just aren't available, you know. Yeah, simple, And also,
let's be blunt, as these shows go on, they don't
typically add more money to a show. They ask it
to find ways to get by with less money. That's
usually the art of these things. And so it's possible,

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not necessarily that Andre wanted more, but maybe they had
less to ask, you know.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
And so with cast working, some of our listeners know
what the full story is and might want to write.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
Yeah, it could be. And again, I didn't have the
six million Dollar Man history book on how that and
the Bionic Woman were put together, but after listening to
those guys on Cyborg talk about it, I think I
do need to pick that book up. It's it's not
in print right now, but you can get reasonably priced
copies pretty easily. I'll put a link to that in
the show notes. Sounds good anyway, I appreciate you indulging

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me on this. I just again, I really think this
is an important piece of bigfoot culture and mainstream it is.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Yeah, yeah, and I think it's good to know. It's
really been and livening for me. And I'm impressed by
how much you know.

Speaker 5 (59:30):
Well again, I probably know more about Bigfoot than I
do this episode, but or this show, but it really
was important to me and I did a lot of
research to prepare.

Speaker 9 (59:39):
For this, and absolutely thank you.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
I thank you, and I thank to you to our
listeners for I hope you guys like this. Let us know.
I mean, big Footage is a passion project for me.
It's typically for only the patrons and I you know,
the episodes usually are like twenty minutes, not two hours.
Whatever this is going to turn out to be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Well, yeah, there's a lot to unpacked with this one.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
This was a big one. Really, it really is a
lot to unpack, and I wanted to make sure we
did a good job because I think again you did
for my generation. This is a what do they call it?
It's it's not the text, but it's something. It's like,
it's it's some core fandom material, you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Know, for my generation, really significant absolutely to just yeah,
I mean it's again use the term again. It's very complicated.
So it is piece of the puzzle.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
And I know a lot of people my age have
a lot of nostalgia. It's like, I don't have time
to indulge my nostalgia. I'm I'm always thinking about what's
coming next, not what's gone before.

Speaker 7 (01:00:46):
But I do have this sort of weird.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
Obsession with filling in the holes of stuff that I
missed culturally because of my upbringing or because of my
scheduling or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I mean, I can appreciate that too. Yeah, it's not
that I had very different upbringings, more secular.

Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
And I'm glad we're able to be friends regardless of
our differences.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
Absolutely, it is neat how much overlap we have given
how different our backgrounds, though.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
And I like that so and that that is so
true really part of the human condition.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Huh.

Speaker 10 (01:01:19):
I was going to say it's so human.

Speaker 7 (01:01:23):
That, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
And you know, and if you approach the world trying
to find what's interesting and where you have commonality and not.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Similarities, yeah, yeah, just exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
It's like it's like it's easy to find differences, finding
that common ground is much more important.

Speaker 9 (01:01:41):
I think, because that's bigfoot in this bigfoot.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
These Bigfoot is the tie that binds.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
That's right, carrying us during those difficult times.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
He really does. I will that that ought to be
a damn T shirt.

Speaker 9 (01:01:57):
All right, thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
Let's care for joining me on this journey.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
That was a lot of unexpected fun. It really was.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
We'll be back next week.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Yeah, it's always something exciting. Stay tuned.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
That's right. All right, you've been listening to Monster Talk,
the science show about monsters. I'm Blake Smith and I'm
Karen Stolsner, and that concludes part two of our special
on the secret of Bigfoot. Big Footage is usually a
Patreon exclusive subpodcast, but if you're hearing the Patreon edition,

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then you got ad free content plus bonus content, including
a joke and some fun talk about actor Ted Cassidy.
Huge thanks to our supporters at Patreon, dot com, forward
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show possible. Theme music is by Peach Stealing Monkeys and remember,
stay a few thousand feet from any atomic explosions, and

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keep an eye out for that Harry critter in the woods.
What's his name again?

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
My people named him Sasquatch. You call him bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
This has been a Monster House presentation.