July 5, 2025 • 34 mins
This week on the Montana Outdoor Podcast your host Downrigger Dale takes over the podcast studios and gets us all caught up on the latest outdoor news, Statewide fishing reports and peek at the future topics he will be covering on upcoming podcasts. He thought it would be nice to let the rest of the podcast staff take the 4th of July weekend off, but we are thinking that maybe he just didn't get invited to any 4th of July parties. However, that is probably not that case as we all have never seen him wait to be invited when he smells food or beer. But seriously be sure and join Dowrigger on this weeks podcast so you can get caught up on the latest news concerning the Makoshika State Park fire, news of a bit of a brouhaha between the BLM and the Montana FWP, a report that indicates the water is flowing on the Milk River Project but how far, and the list goes on. Plus, Rigger has some great fishing reports for rivers, lakes and reservoirs across the state! So, sit back, crack open a cold one and let your old buddy Downrigger Dale keep you up to date on everything outdoors in Montana. In fact, rumor has it that Rigger is planning on something to do with the Flathead Monster and Bigfoot!! Actually, you may want to pop some corn for this one!! So, mash that play button and see what it's all about here on the Montana Outdoor Podcast!
Links:
- Click here to take a survey on hunting regulation changes.
- Region 1 has new Fish and Wildlife Commissioner, click here to learn all about him.
- Click here to lean about Hunter Education. Also click here to find an in-person class near you!
- Rigger gave a fishing report for Fort Peck Reservoir from fishing guide Don Wilkins. Book a fishing trip on Fort Peck with Don by clicking here.
- Click here to listen to the latest fishing reports from all across the state.
- You can see all the results of that unbelievable Walleye Tournament on Tiber Reservoir that Rigger talked about by clicking here.
- You can watch the video version of this a other Montana Outdoor Podcasts by clicking here!
- Send an email to Downrigger Dale by clicking here!
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Dale Moore (01:13):
Thank you very much, Manny, and welcome, welcome to
this special 4th of Julyepisode.
First off, I wanna sendheartfelt thanks to, um, all of
you active military memberstuning in, and of course to all
you veterans out there.
Thank you for your service andfor helping preserve the
(01:33):
incredible freedoms that, uh, ofcourse so many of us are
celebrating this weekend.
4th of July weekend.
Hard to believe in it.
Now, before we dive into today'sepisode, quick reminder, if
you're enjoying the show, do mea favor Subscribe on our YouTube
channel or wherever you get yourpodcasts, you'll find links in
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the, uh, podcast description formore info on everything that we
talk about today, like weusually do.
So this week is gonna be alittle different.
No guess no, uh, campfire,singalongs or anything like
that.
Just me and you.
Now, why is that?
Well, most of our podcast crewand regular guests are taking
(02:20):
well-earned breathers with theirfamily and friends, and I hope
you are too, but we're notleaving you hanging gang because
a lot is happening in Montana'soutdoors.
So today we're digging into thelatest outdoor news fishing
reports from around the state,and we'll give you a sneak.
Peak at some really fun episodeswe've got coming up, actually,
(02:42):
maybe even kind of some weirdones.
You know, you'll get the pointwhen I get to there.
So let's get started.
We're gonna start first withsome news.
We, uh, start in easternMontana.
Mashika.
I always have a h tough timewith that name.
Do you guys, uh, Mashika StatePark in Dawson County was hit
(03:03):
hard this week by a wildfire.
Some rain helped slow it down,but the yurt and at least one
restroom was lost and much ofthe park remains closed.
That's really a shame, isn't it?
But anyway, the, the visitorcenter is still open.
So if you're in the area, swingby, uh, for some local info, uh,
(03:25):
for updates, you can check theFWP Region Seven's Facebook
page, and they've been updatingthat on a pretty, pretty regular
basis.
Checking the Yellowstone River.
Frustrations are building on theYellowstone a long time.
Access point near Twin Bridgeshas been barricaded by BNSF
(03:46):
railway.
This spot has been the go-to forfloating fishing and even agate
hunting for years.
Montana Department ofTransportation and Fish and
Wildlife, and Parks are.
In negotiations to reopen it.
But you'll hear dealing with therailroad easements isn't exactly
a walk in the park.
(04:06):
we'll be keeping an eye on thatfor you as well.
Hey, the Milk River Project isflowing again.
now if you recall, I did a, um,podcast about the Milk River
Project and when I had JenniferPatrick on earlier this, um, I.
(04:26):
Well, it was a what about amonth or so ago?
She talked all about it and,said that things would get
flowing here soon.
And thank goodness that theyactually are, it's hard to
believe that it's really beenabout a year, actually less than
a year, and they've got waterflowing.
(04:47):
That took years to build.
Now think about that.
And they basically rebuilt thething.
and if, if you're not sure whatI'm talking about, I'm gonna put
a link to that podcast withJennifer Patrick, uh, she's with
the Milk River Project and youcan watch that.
Listen to that podcast ratherthat is just.
(05:11):
Fascinating how that had beenaround since, I think it was
conceived about 1905.
I think they finished it in1915.
Something like that from, if mymemory serves me right and.
Amazing how they put thattogether.
What happened is the siphon,this is what moves the water,
uh, across the St.
(05:32):
Mary's River and gets it intothe milk.
Then it flows up through Canadaand actually then comes back
down into Montana over inEastern Montana.
I mean, basically what we'retalking about folks is moving
water across the divide.
It just amazing that they didthat so many years ago.
(05:54):
And then to have the whole thingblow out when that siphon
failed, it blew like a, what wasit?
About 50 foot deep, huge.
And I'm talking huge hole widein the, um, in the ground.
And to take and repair all that,plus several other.
(06:15):
Areas of it.
I mean, this is, we're talkingmiles and miles of this aqueduct
folks.
It's just amazing what they ableto do.
All uh, Montana companies comeinto the rescue and in about a
year they've, they've got waterflowing.
So that is exciting.
Uh, now that water is last Iheard it was, uh, had flown in,
(06:40):
was flowing in across the, uh,US Canadian border.
And, uh, it should be, I wouldsay, in fact, even by now, I
would say it's probably got tothe, uh, Montana border and
flowing back into Montana overthere in eastern Montana.
So I.
Kudos to them.
(07:00):
So that should start tostabilize that, and it should
get some, uh, hopefully somemore irrigation water, things
like that going.
Now let's talk about huntingregulations.
Of course, this is the time ofyear that they start setting
some new regs, and that FWP isgathering input right now on
next season's huntingregulations.
Now, if you care about Montana'sWildlife Management.
(07:21):
And I know you do.
All of us do that are into allthis.
And the outdoors.
Now is the time to get yourvoice heard.
You can uh, find a link in thepodcast description and you can
fill out a survey they have beendoing, you know, live.
Interactions with the folks allaround the state.
A lot of you have emailed me inthat and said, Hey, I, I don't
(07:43):
have time to go to those, but Istill wanna get my input on some
of these regulation changes.
That's where you can go to thelink that I'm gonna put in a
podcast description and just,fill it all out and put in all
your recommendations, all yourthoughts in that, because that
is vital.
And now this survey isn't gonnabe able to give you to go on and
(08:05):
on, but it, it.
We'll ask you a bunch ofquestions in that, so make sure
you do it because that has ahuge influence on what, Montana
FWP puts together to present tothe Fish and Wildlife Commission
and those recommendations, allthat go with that.
(08:25):
So the commissioner c.
All these different inputs andthat goes a long way with how
they are gonna decide how allthis gets done.
A lot of times I think folks,uh, think, well, the FWP decides
all this.
No, their main job is to gathera bunch of information, uh, from
all of us, but also frombiologists and people out in the
(08:48):
field and all that too, thatwork with the FWP, but it's the
Fish and Wildlife Commissionthat ends up deciding, a whole
bunch of this stuff.
Again, get those, Surveys in tothe FWP.
Okay, now let's talk about someHuda restrictions I am imagining
(09:08):
that we probably have other hooda restrictions going as I'm
talking about it, uh, right now.
Uh, in effect in parts of theMadison, Jefferson and Sun
Rivers, we have some alrestrictions.
If you're new to, that term, itmeans no fishing from 2:00 PM to
midnight.
These rules protect, uh, fishduring warm summer temperatures.
(09:30):
If you're practicing catch andrelease.
Remember, net fast, handle thefish, wet, keep'em in the water,
revive before you get'emreleased.
I have a, uh, croppy comeback atthe Tongue River Reservoir story
for you.
Yeah.
The, the Croppy population atthe Tongue River Reservoir has
taken a hit in recent years.
(09:51):
A lot of you that fish that knowabout that, but there's hope.
Still out there.
FWP is stocking young of theyear.
Croppy from, uh, the hatcheryeffort this fall.
Now that is from the, uh,hatchery there in Miles City.
Fingers crossed that we get arebound for that great croppy
(10:12):
population.
I really hope that makes acomeback.
Talking about a, uh, black bearstudy in the little belts
researchers are collectinggenetic data and collaring bears
to better understand black bearpopulations in central Montana.
Orange signs are gonna be postedaround, uh.
(10:33):
Hair corral, uh, and trappingsites.
So be aware if you're hiking inthe area and yes, carry bear
spray.
Now, when you hear me say, bearcorral, what?
What the heck is that downrigger?
And what are you talking aboutthere?
You may have seen these in thewoods, and unfortunately some
people go, well, this looksdumb.
And they, they cut'em down.
(10:54):
Don't do that.
What they do is they put upthese kind of barbed wire.
Corrals and they put'em in areaswhere they know the bears are,
are going back and forth.
What it doesn't hurt the bears,but when they walk under it, it
just pulls some of that hair offof them.
And what that allows research todo is nowadays, of course, you
(11:16):
know, with DNA and all that,they can get all kinds of
information off the hair.
And so this is going to go alongwith the studies.
And of course, as I said, theywill be trapping black bears
too.
So do look out for those signsif you come across them.
Go around don't, go through theareas and, uh, since they will
be doing some things to attractthe Bears best to stay away from
(11:40):
that area and let's let'em dothat research and see what's
going on with the Black Bear.
So we have some good seasons forBlack Bear up in the area.
Now we do have a new speaking ofFWP Commission.
We do have a new FWPCommissioner in Region one E Ian
Wargo.
He's of ca, he's from Kalispell,is the new commissioner for
(12:01):
Northwest Montana.
He's served on several advisorycouncils and brings, uh, an
engineering background to therole.
there's a link in the, podcastdescription.
If you wanna get moreinformation and know him better.
Here's a picture of him rightthere.
You see him?
Welcome, Ian, and, so glad thatyou're a part of that and hope
(12:23):
you make some good decisions,but learning more about Ian and,
we, we do love ourcommissioners.
that is a volunteer deal, and itdoes take'em a lot of time, so
just say thank you when you seesome of them.
Now, if you, if you or someone,needs some hunter education
certification, a lot of you havekids out there, uh, or grandkids
(12:46):
and you're saying, yeah, I guessit is time, isn't it?
You know, often we get in thishot weather, 4th of July, we're
having fun and we forget.
Yeah.
Hunting season is not gonna bethat far away.
What I always hate to hear aboutis when the youngins are ready
to.
Get out and start hunting andthey go, oh heck, we haven't got
our, our, um, hunter's Zedcertificate, and especially for
(13:10):
the very young ones that do notqualify for the online test, and
all of them are full.
Then they miss out and theycan't hunt that year.
So I've got a link down there inthe podcast description.
Go to that link and that willshow you.
In fact, it's real simple.
It'll allow you to put in whereyou're at, and then it will show
(13:31):
you all the available huntersthat classes in your area get on
that right away.
Remember those of you that aretaking the online test.
Make sure that you remember, youdo have to take the in-person
field day test.
Those fill up quick and youcan't get your certification
(13:52):
unless you complete that too.
And remember, you can't do oneor the other.
You have to do both the online.
And the, uh, in-person field daytest, and you have to do the
online part first.
So remember that online, ofcourse, that's easy.
(14:12):
You can do that at your leisure.
However, you, uh, are gonna haveto take that field day test in
those.
Get full, especially a lot ofpeople put that off and put that
off.
So just don't forget that andget involved.
If you have the young ones thatare around 10 years old and
qualify for the apprenticeprogram, I'll have links to all
(14:33):
that so you can learn more aboutit.
But let's get'em out, get'emhunting.
Don't miss out on that.
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We are back here on the Montana Outdoor Podcast.
Thanks so much for being withus.
Thank you.
Superior Hardwoods of Montanafor all you do.
let's get, uh, to what most ofyou really wanna hear about Of
course.
And that's our fishing reports.
And, let me tell you, there'ssome exciting stuff happening on
Montana's rivers and reservoirs.
Right now.
(18:13):
We're gonna take a quick peek atthe Yellowstone River.
Despite runoff, uh, wrapping upearly this year, the Yellowstone
is fishing incredibly well.
Salmon flies are pushing up intothe park, but golden stones and
yellow Sallys are hot belowLivingston.
If you're heading out, try a uh,chubby Chernobyl with a brown
(18:35):
rubber leg dropper.
Put about three feet below.
That combo is producing big timefrom what the folks down in that
area have been telling me about.
Do have some fishing, of course,in Yellowstone National Park,
Fantastic conditions in Lamar,soda Butte and Slew Creek.
Right now, avoid The Madisonstretch that is just too warm
(18:58):
right now.
Watch for gray Drake, salmonflies and uh, terrestrials like
beetles.
Oh, and don't forget your bearspray in that area for sure.
Gang, do not forget that.
You're not in the mall out therefor sure.
And I don't want you to bemalled.
Now Upper Madison is drylyheaven right now, or Lower.
(19:19):
Madison is still fishing prettywell with Cass and a few, uh,
lingering salmon flies.
Uh, let's see, what, what wouldbe some good recommendations?
Uh, take a look here.
Oh pair a chubby with a number14 bead head nymph or a 16 PMD.
Yeah.
(19:40):
Here, and that's working reallywell.
Check the Gallatin River.
Great flows and aggressive fish.
That's a good combo.
Run a uh, paragon dropper undera chubby.
Now be ready for quick strikesin that fast water.
So no drifting off there.
Checking Fort Peck Reservoir.
Here's a name you, uh, willrecognize if you're a regular
(20:02):
podcast listener.
Don Wilkins, uh, files a greatreport here while I are hitting
on weed lines, using slow deathrigs and crawlers, northerns,
shallow, spoons and cranks ofthe ticket there.
Lakers are deep, 95 to a hundredand feet deep.
And guess what?
Gang?
He's been catching a few ofthose king salmon already.
(20:25):
They're biting between 60 and 90feet.
He says, flasher and fly rigsseem to be his, go-to so far.
Now, if you want a shot at FortPecks big boys out there, give
Don Wilkins a call, but do notwait.
He books up fast.
I'll put his contact informationand a link to his stuff.
(20:46):
in the, uh, podcast description.
Now let's, uh, take a quick lookat the Helena Area Reservoir,
shall we?
Starting off with Canyon Ferrywalleye and rainbows are biting
between pond one and Goose Bay.
Use crank baits or spinners withworms.
Taking a look at Hauser, goodwalleye and rainbow action
(21:09):
there.
Early mornings are key.
Holter walleye are hangingaround weed beds.
Fire tiger Jigs are workingreally good from what I hear
from the boys and gals down thatway.
Rainbows are strong throughoutthe, um, Holter area, especially
with slip bobbers and crawlersnear the surface in the morning.
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now if you want more phishingreports.
Those are just a few.
Go to Montana outdoor.com.
I'm gonna put a link to that.
In that link, it will take youto our audio reports.
And there you can get reportsall statewide.
Those get updated all the time,gang.
(21:52):
Check that out.
That is a great resource.
And what I love about that, Iuse it a lot myself.
When you're out driving, you canbe listening to those reports as
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So cool there.
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We are back here on the Montana Outdoor Podcast.
Hey, thanks so much for comingalong here on this abbreviated
version of the Montana OutdoorPodcast.
As all of the folks that helpedme do this podcast are out
taking 4th of July weekend off.
And.
Deservedly so I'm kind of doingthis on my own flying solo, and
(25:53):
I appreciate all of you comingalong with me.
I hope that, you've enjoyed someof these news stories and
phishing reports and all that,if you like that.
I, I was thinking I might dosome of these kind of episodes
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the latest news and that, let meknow down rigger at Montana
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That's downrigor@montanaoutdoor.com.
Shoot me an email, let me knowif you like this idea, if you
like it, but you'd rathersomebody else does it or
something like that I was thinkof.
That might be kind of aninteresting thing to do.
But anyway, so speaking ofthings coming up on the Montana
(26:36):
Outdoor Podcast, we've got somefun and well, maybe if you.
Quirky topics coming up.
Uh, we're doing a Strangest Fishin Montana episode, if you will.
Have you ever caught some oddsnap a picture, email it to me.
And we'll try to, ID it for youand share the story.
(26:57):
But what we've got coming up isa show with two of the top
biologists.
These are wildlife biologists.
One, covers the critters on theground.
The other, the ones that swimaround in Montana, streams and
rivers, they, um, are out of theUniversity of Montana.
These are two really smartfolks, And so what we're gonna
(27:19):
do is we're gonna talk aboutMontana's rarest species, both
on land and water.
Uh, we're gonna touch on.
A lot of the, the normal things,if you have questions you would
like me to ask them of, Hey,what is it with this thing, or,
or that, uh, we're gonna talkabout things like, populations
Sport fish that most peopletarget.
(27:41):
A lot of the big game that weall like to hunt.
And I'm gonna go over with themwhat they're seeing, what
they're hearing.
They do a lot of studies andstuff for Montana and all over
the place.
But then I'm also gonna get intomaybe asking them I, get these
emails and stuff from people andsome blurry pictures, we've
(28:02):
heard of the Flathead monsterout there in Flathead Lake.
People have been citing thisthing since the sixties.
I'm gonna ask'em about that,what they think the
possibilities are, and maybeeven talk a little bit about
Bigfoot.
No promises there, but you know,I.
We're gonna do that too.
the other program we've gotcoming up is with, Katie Vivian.
(28:22):
She is the FWP biologist incharge of Tiber Reservoir.
Now we've been wanting to gether on and she's gonna join us
soon.
And why?
Did you guys see a Montanaoutdoor.com?
The walleye tournament weightsfrom the Tiber Tournament.
(28:43):
I'm sure you've heard about itby now.
It, it's, it's crazy.
I'm gonna leave a link to thatstory on Montana outdoor.com if
I'm not mistaken.
I think these are the biggestwalleye tournament weights in
the United States.
If not, they gotta be prettydang close.
(29:05):
Now, why did Tiber.
All of a sudden start producingthese huge walleye.
Now, before you send me anemail.
Yes.
I know At one time Tyer was thehome of the state, record
walleye, and that record washeld for a while.
Now it's kind of moved around.
Of course, Trevor Johnson caughtthat monster over in Helena.
(29:27):
But I'm telling you, I thinkwe're gonna see the next.
State record walleye come outtaTyre and I don't know what's
going on there, but Katie does alot of, uh, netting surveys, a
lot of stuff.
Of course, it is kind of like aminiature Fort Peck in a lot of
ways.
They have the Cisco in there,which if you remember I did a
(29:48):
podcast called, uh, bacon DoubleCheeseburger Fish.
And there's all about the Cisco.
They have Cisco in Tiber, butthis is kind of exciting.
I mean they produced and notjust the winners of the
tournament.
It's like, I think the top fiveto eight places in the
tournament all had huge weights.
(30:09):
I.
Read that story I've got down inthe podcast description and then
keep your eye, uh, open and yourears open for that podcast,
which will be coming soon.
As soon as Katie gets, back andgets settled in, I.
We're gonna have her on.
That's gonna be a reallyinteresting podcast and find out
what's going on there.
(30:29):
Also, we're gonna have some aswe're get closer on, in through
the summer and into, um, fall,some of the top hunting guides
around the state of Montana aregonna be on.
We're gonna talk to them also.
Do you remember when I did thatpodcast?
Well, I've done it two years ina row now, and, we talk about
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how during the rut is kind oflike a singles bar for elk.
And I won't spoil it all, butthe fellow I have on for that,
he's coming back again thisyear.
It is probably the top elkcaller in the world.
Every time we do this podcastwith him and he always says new
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the place just goes nuts.
In fact, we've had to rerun it afew times'cause it dang near
blew up our, our website.
People just love it and you getgreat information.
He's a great teacher too.
So I want you to, check that outand be watching for that.
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Topics you think I ought to beworking on.
So be sure and do that.
Also, share your, pictures withus.
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We post'em on Montanaoutdoor.com.
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you know, you catch a weirdfish.
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For now, folks.
I guess that's it.
I hope you liked our littlebrief 4th of July, uh, roundup
special with the latest news andsome phishing reports and all
that.
Uh, I hope you're getting out,uh, this weekend and I hope
you're gonna be safe.
I.
Be careful out there.
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Dale Moore (01:13):
Thank you very much, Manny, and welcome, welcome to
this special 4th of Julyepisode.
First off, I wanna sendheartfelt thanks to, um, all of
you active military memberstuning in, and of course to all
you veterans out there.
Thank you for your service andfor helping preserve the
(01:33):
incredible freedoms that, uh, ofcourse so many of us are
celebrating this weekend.
4th of July weekend.
Hard to believe in it.
Now, before we dive into today'sepisode, quick reminder, if
you're enjoying the show, do mea favor Subscribe on our YouTube
channel or wherever you get yourpodcasts, you'll find links in
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the, uh, podcast description formore info on everything that we
talk about today, like weusually do.
So this week is gonna be alittle different.
No guess no, uh, campfire,singalongs or anything like
that.
Just me and you.
Now, why is that?
Well, most of our podcast crewand regular guests are taking
(02:20):
well-earned breathers with theirfamily and friends, and I hope
you are too, but we're notleaving you hanging gang because
a lot is happening in Montana'soutdoors.
So today we're digging into thelatest outdoor news fishing
reports from around the state,and we'll give you a sneak.
Peak at some really fun episodeswe've got coming up, actually,
(02:42):
maybe even kind of some weirdones.
You know, you'll get the pointwhen I get to there.
So let's get started.
We're gonna start first withsome news.
We, uh, start in easternMontana.
Mashika.
I always have a h tough timewith that name.
Do you guys, uh, Mashika StatePark in Dawson County was hit
(03:03):
hard this week by a wildfire.
Some rain helped slow it down,but the yurt and at least one
restroom was lost and much ofthe park remains closed.
That's really a shame, isn't it?
But anyway, the, the visitorcenter is still open.
So if you're in the area, swingby, uh, for some local info, uh,
(03:25):
for updates, you can check theFWP Region Seven's Facebook
page, and they've been updatingthat on a pretty, pretty regular
basis.
Checking the Yellowstone River.
Frustrations are building on theYellowstone a long time.
Access point near Twin Bridgeshas been barricaded by BNSF
(03:46):
railway.
This spot has been the go-to forfloating fishing and even agate
hunting for years.
Montana Department ofTransportation and Fish and
Wildlife, and Parks are.
In negotiations to reopen it.
But you'll hear dealing with therailroad easements isn't exactly
a walk in the park.
(04:06):
we'll be keeping an eye on thatfor you as well.
Hey, the Milk River Project isflowing again.
now if you recall, I did a, um,podcast about the Milk River
Project and when I had JenniferPatrick on earlier this, um, I.
(04:26):
Well, it was a what about amonth or so ago?
She talked all about it and,said that things would get
flowing here soon.
And thank goodness that theyactually are, it's hard to
believe that it's really beenabout a year, actually less than
a year, and they've got waterflowing.
(04:47):
That took years to build.
Now think about that.
And they basically rebuilt thething.
and if, if you're not sure whatI'm talking about, I'm gonna put
a link to that podcast withJennifer Patrick, uh, she's with
the Milk River Project and youcan watch that.
Listen to that podcast ratherthat is just.
(05:11):
Fascinating how that had beenaround since, I think it was
conceived about 1905.
I think they finished it in1915.
Something like that from, if mymemory serves me right and.
Amazing how they put thattogether.
What happened is the siphon,this is what moves the water,
uh, across the St.
(05:32):
Mary's River and gets it intothe milk.
Then it flows up through Canadaand actually then comes back
down into Montana over inEastern Montana.
I mean, basically what we'retalking about folks is moving
water across the divide.
It just amazing that they didthat so many years ago.
(05:54):
And then to have the whole thingblow out when that siphon
failed, it blew like a, what wasit?
About 50 foot deep, huge.
And I'm talking huge hole widein the, um, in the ground.
And to take and repair all that,plus several other.
(06:15):
Areas of it.
I mean, this is, we're talkingmiles and miles of this aqueduct
folks.
It's just amazing what they ableto do.
All uh, Montana companies comeinto the rescue and in about a
year they've, they've got waterflowing.
So that is exciting.
Uh, now that water is last Iheard it was, uh, had flown in,
(06:40):
was flowing in across the, uh,US Canadian border.
And, uh, it should be, I wouldsay, in fact, even by now, I
would say it's probably got tothe, uh, Montana border and
flowing back into Montana overthere in eastern Montana.
So I.
Kudos to them.
(07:00):
So that should start tostabilize that, and it should
get some, uh, hopefully somemore irrigation water, things
like that going.
Now let's talk about huntingregulations.
Of course, this is the time ofyear that they start setting
some new regs, and that FWP isgathering input right now on
next season's huntingregulations.
Now, if you care about Montana'sWildlife Management.
(07:21):
And I know you do.
All of us do that are into allthis.
And the outdoors.
Now is the time to get yourvoice heard.
You can uh, find a link in thepodcast description and you can
fill out a survey they have beendoing, you know, live.
Interactions with the folks allaround the state.
A lot of you have emailed me inthat and said, Hey, I, I don't
(07:43):
have time to go to those, but Istill wanna get my input on some
of these regulation changes.
That's where you can go to thelink that I'm gonna put in a
podcast description and just,fill it all out and put in all
your recommendations, all yourthoughts in that, because that
is vital.
And now this survey isn't gonnabe able to give you to go on and
(08:05):
on, but it, it.
We'll ask you a bunch ofquestions in that, so make sure
you do it because that has ahuge influence on what, Montana
FWP puts together to present tothe Fish and Wildlife Commission
and those recommendations, allthat go with that.
(08:25):
So the commissioner c.
All these different inputs andthat goes a long way with how
they are gonna decide how allthis gets done.
A lot of times I think folks,uh, think, well, the FWP decides
all this.
No, their main job is to gathera bunch of information, uh, from
all of us, but also frombiologists and people out in the
(08:48):
field and all that too, thatwork with the FWP, but it's the
Fish and Wildlife Commissionthat ends up deciding, a whole
bunch of this stuff.
Again, get those, Surveys in tothe FWP.
Okay, now let's talk about someHuda restrictions I am imagining
(09:08):
that we probably have other hooda restrictions going as I'm
talking about it, uh, right now.
Uh, in effect in parts of theMadison, Jefferson and Sun
Rivers, we have some alrestrictions.
If you're new to, that term, itmeans no fishing from 2:00 PM to
midnight.
These rules protect, uh, fishduring warm summer temperatures.
(09:30):
If you're practicing catch andrelease.
Remember, net fast, handle thefish, wet, keep'em in the water,
revive before you get'emreleased.
I have a, uh, croppy comeback atthe Tongue River Reservoir story
for you.
Yeah.
The, the Croppy population atthe Tongue River Reservoir has
taken a hit in recent years.
(09:51):
A lot of you that fish that knowabout that, but there's hope.
Still out there.
FWP is stocking young of theyear.
Croppy from, uh, the hatcheryeffort this fall.
Now that is from the, uh,hatchery there in Miles City.
Fingers crossed that we get arebound for that great croppy
(10:12):
population.
I really hope that makes acomeback.
Talking about a, uh, black bearstudy in the little belts
researchers are collectinggenetic data and collaring bears
to better understand black bearpopulations in central Montana.
Orange signs are gonna be postedaround, uh.
(10:33):
Hair corral, uh, and trappingsites.
So be aware if you're hiking inthe area and yes, carry bear
spray.
Now, when you hear me say, bearcorral, what?
What the heck is that downrigger?
And what are you talking aboutthere?
You may have seen these in thewoods, and unfortunately some
people go, well, this looksdumb.
And they, they cut'em down.
(10:54):
Don't do that.
What they do is they put upthese kind of barbed wire.
Corrals and they put'em in areaswhere they know the bears are,
are going back and forth.
What it doesn't hurt the bears,but when they walk under it, it
just pulls some of that hair offof them.
And what that allows research todo is nowadays, of course, you
(11:16):
know, with DNA and all that,they can get all kinds of
information off the hair.
And so this is going to go alongwith the studies.
And of course, as I said, theywill be trapping black bears
too.
So do look out for those signsif you come across them.
Go around don't, go through theareas and, uh, since they will
be doing some things to attractthe Bears best to stay away from
(11:40):
that area and let's let'em dothat research and see what's
going on with the Black Bear.
So we have some good seasons forBlack Bear up in the area.
Now we do have a new speaking ofFWP Commission.
We do have a new FWPCommissioner in Region one E Ian
Wargo.
He's of ca, he's from Kalispell,is the new commissioner for
(12:01):
Northwest Montana.
He's served on several advisorycouncils and brings, uh, an
engineering background to therole.
there's a link in the, podcastdescription.
If you wanna get moreinformation and know him better.
Here's a picture of him rightthere.
You see him?
Welcome, Ian, and, so glad thatyou're a part of that and hope
(12:23):
you make some good decisions,but learning more about Ian and,
we, we do love ourcommissioners.
that is a volunteer deal, and itdoes take'em a lot of time, so
just say thank you when you seesome of them.
Now, if you, if you or someone,needs some hunter education
certification, a lot of you havekids out there, uh, or grandkids
(12:46):
and you're saying, yeah, I guessit is time, isn't it?
You know, often we get in thishot weather, 4th of July, we're
having fun and we forget.
Yeah.
Hunting season is not gonna bethat far away.
What I always hate to hear aboutis when the youngins are ready
to.
Get out and start hunting andthey go, oh heck, we haven't got
our, our, um, hunter's Zedcertificate, and especially for
(13:10):
the very young ones that do notqualify for the online test, and
all of them are full.
Then they miss out and theycan't hunt that year.
So I've got a link down there inthe podcast description.
Go to that link and that willshow you.
In fact, it's real simple.
It'll allow you to put in whereyou're at, and then it will show
(13:31):
you all the available huntersthat classes in your area get on
that right away.
Remember those of you that aretaking the online test.
Make sure that you remember, youdo have to take the in-person
field day test.
Those fill up quick and youcan't get your certification
(13:52):
unless you complete that too.
And remember, you can't do oneor the other.
You have to do both the online.
And the, uh, in-person field daytest, and you have to do the
online part first.
So remember that online, ofcourse, that's easy.
(14:12):
You can do that at your leisure.
However, you, uh, are gonna haveto take that field day test in
those.
Get full, especially a lot ofpeople put that off and put that
off.
So just don't forget that andget involved.
If you have the young ones thatare around 10 years old and
qualify for the apprenticeprogram, I'll have links to all
(14:33):
that so you can learn more aboutit.
But let's get'em out, get'emhunting.
Don't miss out on that.
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We are back here on the Montana Outdoor Podcast.
Thanks so much for being withus.
Thank you.
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let's get, uh, to what most ofyou really wanna hear about Of
course.
And that's our fishing reports.
And, let me tell you, there'ssome exciting stuff happening on
Montana's rivers and reservoirs.
Right now.
(18:13):
We're gonna take a quick peek atthe Yellowstone River.
Despite runoff, uh, wrapping upearly this year, the Yellowstone
is fishing incredibly well.
Salmon flies are pushing up intothe park, but golden stones and
yellow Sallys are hot belowLivingston.
If you're heading out, try a uh,chubby Chernobyl with a brown
(18:35):
rubber leg dropper.
Put about three feet below.
That combo is producing big timefrom what the folks down in that
area have been telling me about.
Do have some fishing, of course,in Yellowstone National Park,
Fantastic conditions in Lamar,soda Butte and Slew Creek.
Right now, avoid The Madisonstretch that is just too warm
(18:58):
right now.
Watch for gray Drake, salmonflies and uh, terrestrials like
beetles.
Oh, and don't forget your bearspray in that area for sure.
Gang, do not forget that.
You're not in the mall out therefor sure.
And I don't want you to bemalled.
Now Upper Madison is drylyheaven right now, or Lower.
(19:19):
Madison is still fishing prettywell with Cass and a few, uh,
lingering salmon flies.
Uh, let's see, what, what wouldbe some good recommendations?
Uh, take a look here.
Oh pair a chubby with a number14 bead head nymph or a 16 PMD.
Yeah.
(19:40):
Here, and that's working reallywell.
Check the Gallatin River.
Great flows and aggressive fish.
That's a good combo.
Run a uh, paragon dropper undera chubby.
Now be ready for quick strikesin that fast water.
So no drifting off there.
Checking Fort Peck Reservoir.
Here's a name you, uh, willrecognize if you're a regular
(20:02):
podcast listener.
Don Wilkins, uh, files a greatreport here while I are hitting
on weed lines, using slow deathrigs and crawlers, northerns,
shallow, spoons and cranks ofthe ticket there.
Lakers are deep, 95 to a hundredand feet deep.
And guess what?
Gang?
He's been catching a few ofthose king salmon already.
(20:25):
They're biting between 60 and 90feet.
He says, flasher and fly rigsseem to be his, go-to so far.
Now, if you want a shot at FortPecks big boys out there, give
Don Wilkins a call, but do notwait.
He books up fast.
I'll put his contact informationand a link to his stuff.
(20:46):
in the, uh, podcast description.
Now let's, uh, take a quick lookat the Helena Area Reservoir,
shall we?
Starting off with Canyon Ferrywalleye and rainbows are biting
between pond one and Goose Bay.
Use crank baits or spinners withworms.
Taking a look at Hauser, goodwalleye and rainbow action
(21:09):
there.
Early mornings are key.
Holter walleye are hangingaround weed beds.
Fire tiger Jigs are workingreally good from what I hear
from the boys and gals down thatway.
Rainbows are strong throughoutthe, um, Holter area, especially
with slip bobbers and crawlersnear the surface in the morning.
(21:31):
now if you want more phishingreports.
Those are just a few.
Go to Montana outdoor.com.
I'm gonna put a link to that.
In that link, it will take youto our audio reports.
And there you can get reportsall statewide.
Those get updated all the time,gang.
(21:52):
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That is a great resource.
And what I love about that, Iuse it a lot myself.
When you're out driving, you canbe listening to those reports as
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Dale Moore (25:31):
We are back here on the Montana Outdoor Podcast.
Hey, thanks so much for comingalong here on this abbreviated
version of the Montana OutdoorPodcast.
As all of the folks that helpedme do this podcast are out
taking 4th of July weekend off.
And.
Deservedly so I'm kind of doingthis on my own flying solo, and
(25:53):
I appreciate all of you comingalong with me.
I hope that, you've enjoyed someof these news stories and
phishing reports and all that,if you like that.
I, I was thinking I might dosome of these kind of episodes
now, and then just to bring youup to date, get you caught up on
the latest news and that, let meknow down rigger at Montana
Outdoor.
Dot com.
(26:14):
That's downrigor@montanaoutdoor.com.
Shoot me an email, let me knowif you like this idea, if you
like it, but you'd rathersomebody else does it or
something like that I was thinkof.
That might be kind of aninteresting thing to do.
But anyway, so speaking ofthings coming up on the Montana
(26:36):
Outdoor Podcast, we've got somefun and well, maybe if you.
Quirky topics coming up.
Uh, we're doing a Strangest Fishin Montana episode, if you will.
Have you ever caught some oddsnap a picture, email it to me.
And we'll try to, ID it for youand share the story.
(26:57):
But what we've got coming up isa show with two of the top
biologists.
These are wildlife biologists.
One, covers the critters on theground.
The other, the ones that swimaround in Montana, streams and
rivers, they, um, are out of theUniversity of Montana.
These are two really smartfolks, And so what we're gonna
(27:19):
do is we're gonna talk aboutMontana's rarest species, both
on land and water.
Uh, we're gonna touch on.
A lot of the, the normal things,if you have questions you would
like me to ask them of, Hey,what is it with this thing, or,
or that, uh, we're gonna talkabout things like, populations
Sport fish that most peopletarget.
(27:41):
A lot of the big game that weall like to hunt.
And I'm gonna go over with themwhat they're seeing, what
they're hearing.
They do a lot of studies andstuff for Montana and all over
the place.
But then I'm also gonna get intomaybe asking them I, get these
emails and stuff from people andsome blurry pictures, we've
(28:02):
heard of the Flathead monsterout there in Flathead Lake.
People have been citing thisthing since the sixties.
I'm gonna ask'em about that,what they think the
possibilities are, and maybeeven talk a little bit about
Bigfoot.
No promises there, but you know,I.
We're gonna do that too.
the other program we've gotcoming up is with, Katie Vivian.
(28:22):
She is the FWP biologist incharge of Tiber Reservoir.
Now we've been wanting to gether on and she's gonna join us
soon.
And why?
Did you guys see a Montanaoutdoor.com?
The walleye tournament weightsfrom the Tiber Tournament.
(28:43):
I'm sure you've heard about itby now.
It, it's, it's crazy.
I'm gonna leave a link to thatstory on Montana outdoor.com if
I'm not mistaken.
I think these are the biggestwalleye tournament weights in
the United States.
If not, they gotta be prettydang close.
(29:05):
Now, why did Tiber.
All of a sudden start producingthese huge walleye.
Now, before you send me anemail.
Yes.
I know At one time Tyer was thehome of the state, record
walleye, and that record washeld for a while.
Now it's kind of moved around.
Of course, Trevor Johnson caughtthat monster over in Helena.
(29:27):
But I'm telling you, I thinkwe're gonna see the next.
State record walleye come outtaTyre and I don't know what's
going on there, but Katie does alot of, uh, netting surveys, a
lot of stuff.
Of course, it is kind of like aminiature Fort Peck in a lot of
ways.
They have the Cisco in there,which if you remember I did a
(29:48):
podcast called, uh, bacon DoubleCheeseburger Fish.
And there's all about the Cisco.
They have Cisco in Tiber, butthis is kind of exciting.
I mean they produced and notjust the winners of the
tournament.
It's like, I think the top fiveto eight places in the
tournament all had huge weights.
(30:09):
I.
Read that story I've got down inthe podcast description and then
keep your eye, uh, open and yourears open for that podcast,
which will be coming soon.
As soon as Katie gets, back andgets settled in, I.
We're gonna have her on.
That's gonna be a reallyinteresting podcast and find out
what's going on there.
(30:29):
Also, we're gonna have some aswe're get closer on, in through
the summer and into, um, fall,some of the top hunting guides
around the state of Montana aregonna be on.
We're gonna talk to them also.
Do you remember when I did thatpodcast?
Well, I've done it two years ina row now, and, we talk about
(30:51):
how during the rut is kind oflike a singles bar for elk.
And I won't spoil it all, butthe fellow I have on for that,
he's coming back again thisyear.
It is probably the top elkcaller in the world.
Every time we do this podcastwith him and he always says new
(31:13):
ideas, new things to share.
the place just goes nuts.
In fact, we've had to rerun it afew times'cause it dang near
blew up our, our website.
People just love it and you getgreat information.
He's a great teacher too.
So I want you to, check that outand be watching for that.
(31:34):
Also, uh, as I said, I want yourideas of.
Topics you think I ought to beworking on.
So be sure and do that.
Also, share your, pictures withus.
We always love those.
We post'em on Montanaoutdoor.com.
People love those.
you know, you catch a weirdfish.
If anything like that, want usto name it, whatever you wanna
(31:57):
name it or you want me to findout what the heck it is, send it
to me down rigger at.
Montana outdoor.com.
Manny will give you that addressemail address again, or if you
just go to the podcastdescription, it makes it super
easy.
You can just click and itactually opens up your email
(32:17):
browser and, boom, you just sendme an email that way.
And then on our audio.
Podcast.
There is a way that you canclick on that.
You'll see it there, send us amessage and you can send me a
text.
I don't get your, phone numberor anything, so don't worry.
I don't get that.
I don't sell anything.
We don't do that kind of stuffhere, but, that's kind of handy
(32:40):
too, and a lot of people like touse that.
For now, folks.
I guess that's it.
I hope you liked our littlebrief 4th of July, uh, roundup
special with the latest news andsome phishing reports and all
that.
Uh, I hope you're getting out,uh, this weekend and I hope
you're gonna be safe.
I.
Be careful out there.
(33:01):
I'll see you next time on theMontana Outdoor Podcast.
PC Close Manny Only (33:08):
Thanks for listening to the Montana Outdoor
Podcast.
It has been brought to you inpart by Superior Hardwoods of
Montana, home of the largestselection of in stock, high end
wood products and flooring inthe western United States.
Let them guide you throughtheWoods@superior-hardwoods.com
and by Rocky Mountain Truck andTrailer in Missoula, home of
(33:29):
boss snowplows, cm, truck bedsand diamond sea trailers.
Just go to RMTT e.com for moreinformation.
So what did you think of today'spodcast?
Send your questions and commentsto down
rigger@montanaoutdoor.com.
We should be dropping a newPodcast.
this next Saturday.
(33:49):
Until then, we will see you soonout in Montana's Great outdoors.
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