May 27, 2025 • 24 mins
Testing is over? What do YOU do to fill the last few days of school? We're watching eaglets!
The natural world offers endless fascination when we take time to observe it closely. This week, Joel and Misty share their current obsession with tracking the Big Bear Valley bald eagles through a live nest cam, discovering the remarkable process of how eaglets prepare for their first flight.
Starting with reflections on National Sunscreen Day, the hosts exchange memorable sunburn stories from childhood Disney trips to first date disasters, highlighting our evolving understanding of sun protection. What was once baby oil and reflectors has thankfully given way to proper UV protection, especially important for preserving tattoo art and preventing skin cancer.
The conversation shifts to the eaglets Gizmo and Sunny, whom Joel and Misty have watched transform from helpless gray fuzzy blobs to magnificent juveniles with impressive wingspans. Contrary to what many might assume, eagles don't simply jump off the nest and instinctively know how to fly. The hosts describe watching the eaglets practice by stretching their wings, performing vigorous flapping exercises while holding onto nest materials, and, perhaps, observing other birds in flight - all preparations for that momentous first flight that could happen any day now.
This eagle-watching journey sparked fascinating discussions about avian development, personal eagle encounters across the country, and lesser-known eagle facts (did you know female bald eagles are larger than males, and that these majestic birds make surprisingly squeaky calls?). The hosts share stories of magical eagle sightings from Minnesota to Kansas, reflecting on how eagle populations have made an impressive comeback in recent decades.
Want to join the eagle-watching community? Check the link HERE to access the Big Bear Valley eagle cam and witness this remarkable natural phenomenon for yourself. And don't forget to tune in on June 10th for our National Iced Tea Day episode, where we'll explore the history and preparation of this refreshing summer beverage!
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Lo and behold, it is May 27th.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It is.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
So what is the national day today?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Or what day of is today?
Today is, as a I I'mappreciative because we're
getting into a new season, maybethinking about this sort of
thing, but it's nationalsunscreen day oh, national
sunscreen day yes, I do partakein the screen oh yes very much,
so yeah, no, I, I am, I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, me too I do tan , but it takes about two or
three burns before I really tan.
And this time of year.
I have not actually tried tobecome tan in many years now,
like many years.
So I will inadvertently getsome tanning that I can detect,
(01:22):
but like I don't actually try totan anymore, but when I did,
this was always the time of theyear I would get inadvertently
sunburned.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Because, you're like new to the sun.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yes, that and the sun is much more intense right now
than I'm going to say, than youexpect, than I expected at this
time, because I do now, butbecause it's cooler, it's not
quite like it.
It doesn't feel as intense asit might in.
August but given it's like lessright, it's about a month
(01:57):
before the solstice, it's asintense as in the middle of July
.
Yeah, that's, that's, but itdoesn't feel as intense because
the heat is different.
Right, Because everything elsearound you is cooler.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I try and stay out of the sun myself.
I have a variety of colors ofsun hoodies, I have a straw hat
that I like to wear, but justwhat you said reminded me of I
think I get the most sunburnedduring the winter because one of
the activities I like to do isgo up in the mountains and go
skiing, and I don't think aboutit being yeah, cause it's cold
(02:32):
and then you're getting theextra like the direct the sun
and the reflection of this, thesnow, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well, you and I also have reason to use sunscreen,
since we have put a lot offinances into art on our bodies.
That's true, that is prettysignificantly deteriorated by UV
light.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yes, I do.
I was recently in New York Cityand somebody said, wow, when
did you get that tattoo?
And I said, well, it was awhile ago.
It's holding up really well andI thought well, because I wear
sun hoodies.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yep, exactly Yep.
I get the same thing with theone on my arm.
Like I can tell the differencesbetween what's on my hand that
I don't Like.
It gets more sun exposure thanwhat's up on my arm.
Yes, yeah, I think one of the Idon't want to say it was the
worst sunburn I ever had, butone of the most surprising
sunburns I ever got was overMemorial Day weekend, which has
(03:28):
just passed, I went out into theyard and it was a beautiful day
, it was probably 60 degrees andit was very nice, and I was
wearing a whatever like shortsleeve top or tank top or
whatever and doing garden workall day and I did not have any
sunscreen on.
I got fried, yeah, and Ilearned that.
Oh yeah, it is, it's not quoteunquote.
(03:48):
It's not summer yet.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, which always cracks me up.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But the sun is just as intense.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Do you have a worst story?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
A worst story for sunburn.
I have a worst story, but it'snot well.
It's my story, but it's not mebeing sunburned.
The worst story about sunburnthat I have is when I was
probably like five and we wentto disney world.
We lived in georgia at the timeand went to disney world and we
were staying at a hotel thatwas on the beach wherever we
(04:18):
were and I remember we were outin the beach the whole afternoon
, whatever my dad was like goingout into the waves and like
diving and bringing up seashellsand all kinds of things.
We were having so much fun outon the beach.
My mom was sitting on the sandand the next day we went to
disney world.
Well, my parents both got likesecond degree burns, at least on
(04:38):
their shoulders, like really,really badly burned.
I mean, this was back in like1974 or something too, and there
really wasn't sunscreen, evenLike.
The sunscreen was like bandisole, baby oil, whatever.
So yeah, they had really reallybad sunburns and I remember my
mom telling how it was the onetime in their marriage that they
like purposefully slept apart.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah.
Could not like sleep in thesame bed, they could fall over
each other, yeah yeah, totallywhen, when we were at at disney
world.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Of course we're walking around and we're tired
and we didn't rent strollers oranything because that would cost
money, but we wanted to get upon their shoulders all the time
because we were tired.
I remember we saw other kids ontheir shoulders shoulders like
no way we were not getting ontheir shoulders.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
No, that's Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Absolutely not, yeah.
So yeah, it's not really mystory, but it is our story.
Do you have a worst sunburnstory.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yes, I actually have a few, but this one, I think, is
the worst.
So I was on a first date withmy partner, amara, and I only
got to meet the B-level friendson the first date.
I didn't get to go to theA-level.
Well, it happened to be a poolparty, so we went to this pool
party.
(05:53):
I didn't know I was going to apool or anything, but we're
sitting out, of course, andpeople kept walking by like, hey
, dude, do you want somesunscreen?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh no, I'm good, were you trying to impress them by
using sunscreen?
I was trying to be soimpressive.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, I don't like sunscreen.
Who needs sunscreen?
Sunscreen what are you talkingabout?
I think I spent the next weekpeeling sheets of stuff off my
chest and it holds water.
I hope the listeners right noware not throwing up on their way
to work or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
We need a content warning for this podcast.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yes, oh, it was just.
It was the that was the worstand it was so painful.
And it's so weird because Iremember growing up, like my
parents we would.
We had bronzer in the house,like products to help you absorb
sun like that.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh yeah, I mean I was , when I was a young and we
would lay down out on our littlelittle bathing suits and with a
little blanket and put on babyoil yeah or use those little
like reflector things to reflectat your face and and special
sunglasses, so you couldactually like get more sun
without hurting your eyes yeah,yeah, oh well, ah, they all
(07:08):
we've, we've learned, we'velearned yes, I, I do.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
If I see some shade, I run to it now like I yeah,
it's not good to be in the sun,I think so if it's cool enough.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I don't mind being in the sun, I'm definitely also.
I need sunglasses and a hatperson too.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So I've bought a lot of visors when I've been
traveling.
Well, it was sunnier than Ithought it was going to be.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
And if you see something, say something sort of
thing.
But a friend of mine had acancerous mole and so it's from
being out in the sun.
And so if you notice that for afriend or something like that,
I would suggest that too.
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
All right.
So it's National Sunscreen Day.
You're going to put onsunscreen today.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
All over.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That's the other thing People don't realize.
You have to put a lot moresunscreen on quote unquote than
you think.
Yes, so you actually have toput quite a bit of sunscreen on
and reapply Crying out loudreapply.
Yeah, exactly, exactly, allright.
Well, the sunscreen companiesare going to be happy with us
today.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I was going to say we by no means are making any
money off of our national dayout today.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We should have thought of that before we.
We should have, we should havemade some calls.
We've already put it out.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Indeed, anyway, have a great National Sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Day Indeed.
Please wear sunscreen.
Yes, please, all right, so thisis one of those times where we
didn't really have a guest linedup.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, testing is done .
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's almost the end of the school year, oh, here we
go yeah, that's exactly it, it'sthe end of the school year and
we're just going to fill it inwith some interesting things.
So today is Joel and Misty justtalk about stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And we have been talking.
I'm glad we're recording thisbecause we do have interesting
conversations, just if anybody'swondering.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I like how you're trying to convince people.
We do have interestingconversations, by the way, but
we have been talking.
They don't always get recordedon this podcast, but we do have
interesting conversations, we do.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yes, I'm just saying but yeah, we've been talking a
lot about these big bear, baldeagles.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yes, indeed, in fact, we've been watching their eagle
nest cam Right, that's what Isay.
Eagle nest cam, yeah, and theywere born in like early March,
right, yeah, I feel likemid-March, I think that's right.
And now so they're like twomonths old.
So I've learned a lot aboutbaby eagles.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
They fledge, they fledge yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Right Between 10 and 14 weeks.
Wow.
So they grow for 10 weeks andthen boom, they can fly.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
We're still waiting, though.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
We are still waiting, but it's only been like so the
13th, I think, was the first day, so it's only been like a week.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
All right, maybe like .
So the 13th, I think, was thefirst day, so it's only been
like a week.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
All right, maybe right so they're just not so.
They're in that like 11 weekradio, yeah, but you know, so I
I I have this eagle cam open inone of my tabs and everyone's
like, oh yeah, what's happeningwith the eagles?
And I go back and I'm I knowthat there's going to be a time.
I'm going to go over there like, oh no, so I want till now, I
mean, but I'll also be sad,right because you want to see it
happen.
Yeah, absolutely.
But here's an interesting thing, like this last week or so when
(10:34):
I've been tuning in and looking.
I mean one or both of them, butone of them has been doing a
lot.
Of their names are Gizmo andSunny right.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I think that's right.
I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think that's right too.
So one of them I don't knowwhich one has been doing a lot
of standing on the edge of thenets and then stretching their
wings out and doing some bigfloppy, flap, flaps.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
And they're really big wings too, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh yeah, their wings are already like I don't know
three, four feet, whatever Imean they're big and they're
kind of like flapping.
Oh, there's a little teenychickadee, do you see it?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh, there's a tiny chickadee in the nest.
Are they going to get him?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Are you on camera one or camera two?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm on camera one.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Oh, I'm on camera two .
Let me switch to camera one Goback to camera two.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
There's a little chickadee over there, anyways,
so they make these big flaps.
It's been interesting to seethe one that's been doing it a
lot, because I think it's thesame one.
Oh, there it is.
Yeah, they stand around on thenest.
I'm going to say he, I don'tknow.
I don't know if it's Gizmo orSunny.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
We don't know their sexes either.
We don't know genders oranything.
Yeah, they're just guessing.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, so they're flapping, but they're holding on
to one of the big sticks andflapping like they're almost
like strengthened, like if Icould pick up this stick then I
can fly, you know it's.
It's been interesting to see.
I always thought so.
This is where this isinteresting in my.
I had never examined thisthought before.
Okay, but I think if you'd askme like, hey, when a bird starts
to fly, what happens?
(12:04):
I'd be like, oh well, it justlike walks over the edge of the
nest and it just goes it fliesoff Right, right.
Well, clearly, that's not what'shappening.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
No, it's not happening that way, stretching,
and they're practicing and theyhave to be watching their
parents, like they're watchingthis chickadee right now, like
flying and jumping, and they'relike what, the what, the heck, I
, how, how did you do that?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I know, yeah, they're learning by watching a little
bit of I do.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh, he's looking at the camera right now.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
He just flew away.
I can't believe how he did that.
Yeah, so it's.
It's been really interestingwatching them practice over time
doing this before they're goingto get ready, Cause I thought
that was the most amazing thingto me to think about.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Like just one day, you just decide, I can fly that
is way up there.
They're like two stories in theair I wonder how they learn
because, like we talk about,even in in a learning situation,
like it's okay to fail or it'sokay to like try again, this
seems pretty substantial that ifyou were to just jump off the
edge of the nest that wouldn'tfeel that good and you couldn't
(13:09):
get back up.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I think that's why they need to do some like mini
bits right.
Some like practice in where itis safer to fail, like just, I'm
going to just like hop, flyfrom one side of the nest to the
other.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Oh yeah, I wonder if they hover, like just like hover
, over the nest.
They have to flap pretty hardto do that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I don't know they might.
But everything worked becausehe was like he was flapping, he
was flapping and then like,jumping a little bit and like
flippity-flap-flap-flap,flippity-flap-flap-flap,
flippity-flap-flap-flap, justlike that.
I like when you said the otherday, but it was just a little
(13:52):
itty bitty fish, it wasn't maybethat's how they, the parents,
get them out.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
They're just like oh yeah, you'll get hungry enough,
you'll go fly.
Come check us out over here.
Tired, I'm tired of you fishes.
It just jumped up to 41 000people are watching currently
while we're play by playing thisthing play by playing the
eagles.
We will not stop broadcastinguntil these Eagles fly.
No, I think, I don't think thatwould be a good idea.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Also, it wouldn't be very useful because by the time
people see it here, it would belike five days later they're
like what?
Oh, I could go look right now.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Oh, they left five days ago, dang.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Oh, anyway, anyway, yeah, no, it's been really
interesting watching the eaglesget bigger, like from little.
I think I have only beenwatching them for like a couple
months.
Well, no, like, no, it hasn'tbeen that long, clearly, maybe a
month or so, yeah, but theywere like little gray, fuzzy
blobs.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh my gosh, they couldn't move Barely out of the
egg.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, they are crazy Little blob.
They could look like worms,kind of like couldn't do
anything.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Now look at them.
Try and stand and fall over.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, that was a big deal when they could start
standing.
I remember too, there were acouple of days of springtime,
but like the snow would comeback in and they'd have to
hunker down and stay warm.
Yeah well, they're up in theelevation up there.
They're down.
What up above LA?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
in the elevation up there, they're down what up
above LA in the hills up thereNear San Bernardino.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, indeed, shout out.
Yeah, oh man.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, so watching these eagles has been pretty
cool.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It is pretty cool Someday.
Someday they're going to fly.
I'm pretty sure of it.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Somebody's can't wait to see who fledges first.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Uh-huh, I think that's.
The big thing is like who'sgoing to do it first?
We don't know which one's which.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
but I know Sunny or Gizmo, one of the two.
Yeah, I know it's going tohappen.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, so what else are we going to talk about?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, that was our main thing.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, talking about the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So San Bernardino is a district that has adopted the
CPM curriculum.
And I was there recently andthey told me that there on
Fridays they would let theirstudents watch a little bit of
the video.
I'm sure the students arewatching anyway on their own,
but it's easily accessible foranybody.
(16:10):
It's not hidden content oranything like that.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh yeah, no, we'll put a link in the podcast.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
But it was cool because I was at the school that
their mascot was the Eagles, sothey had some pride around
what's happening in this area.
Kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, Eagles is a pretty common mascot.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah For Washkey also the Eagles, mm-hmm kind of cool
.
Yeah, eagles is a pretty commonmascot yeah, fort Washakie,
also the Eagles.
Salt Lake too, we have someEagle areas.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I think we could probably find just about any.
Any school district, not anyschool district If there were
four or five schools in it.
I bet one of them was Eagles.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I did see an Eagle in Minnesota one time too, an
actual bald Eagle, bald eagle.
Yeah, they were actually twobald eagles were.
I thought they were fightingfor a nest.
Maybe they were mating, maybethey were doing something but I
was just mentioning that I'veseen eagles everywhere thank you
, you've seen eagles?
Have you seen?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean, you've seen eagles other than that, haven't
you?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
yeah, oh uh.
Magical time for me was when Ifirst moved out west here.
I had taken a trip to JacksonHole and I remember I was in
charge of the driving, so I wasdriving right next to the Snake
River and everybody else wassleeping.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So I was just In your car.
It was very personal to me thatan eagle just soared right next
to me for about a good mile orso we just had a little moment,
yeah, like up the river yeah,nice, yeah, it was awesome I
feel like when I was a kid andwe're, you know, we're a similar
age when I was a kid I feellike seeing a bald eagle is just
(17:47):
oh my gosh.
It was so amazing to see baldeagles up toward Alaska and
Canada and stuff come down inwinter there and in the Skagit
(18:19):
River, because there's lots offish and the salmon come up and
eat all the fish and there'll belike hundreds of eagles, like
people will do like raft tripsdown the river and stuff, just
to bald eagle watch and you'lljust.
they're just, they're just.
Quote, unquote, everywhere sojust just amazing to me.
Yeah, so like it became reallycommonplace to see them.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I've seen some even here in portland I still feel
like it's special when I see onelike I don't ever feel like
it's commonplace.
One time I was driving fromutah to Utah to Minneapolis and.
I was with Wendell, my dog, andwe were camping along the way
and we made a stop at Pony Lake,which is in Kansas, and I
(19:01):
remember it was a recommendationfrom the DNR.
Is that the right acronym forthe Department of Natural
Resources?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yes, it is, yes, it would be.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
And so he suggested I just go up the road a little
bit.
And I pulled up and it was justme on Pony Lake, and Pony Lake
was named after it was on theNorthern Railroad.
So there was a cave there wherethey used to hide ponies to
help the slaves go from thesouth to the north.
No-transcript.
(19:54):
I was like, okay, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Good thing Wendell was next to you oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I had a witness, number one but two.
It was just like I better pinchmyself go to bed.
I don't know, this seems tooperfect a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Uh-huh.
No, that's pretty, that'smagical, magical, that's pretty
amazing.
Yeah, yeah, no, I think they'restill pretty impressive to see.
They're just, they're so big.
Their white heads are clearlyso like majestic seeming at the
same time.
Yeah, they're definitely.
They're definitely pretty coolbirds what if?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
was it benjamin franklin?
He said he wanted the wildturkey to be our national
turkeys are pretty cool too allright well, they're what they're
way.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
They're way cooler than domestic turkeys domestic
fair.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I agree with that, you know, I would concur, are
they've.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
We have not bred brains into them right so wild
turkeys are actually pretty darncool.
Have you seen it?
I mean mean, you've seen wildturkeys?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I have.
Yeah, there's some around herethat are not in Portland but
outside of Portland.
I was in.
South Dakota home of ourdirector, and I was close to her
house, actually, and I had tostop the car because these wild
turkeys were just running acrossthe road.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, that's super cool, crazy, super cool.
Yeah, yeah, I think that it is,and there's a couple of funny
things about bald eagles that Iwas just thinking of.
So you've heard the noise theymake, right?
Their sound Like there's justthese big, huge majestic birds
and they make this littlesqueaky noise.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I can't mimic it very well.
That's pretty good.
It just sounds like a squeakygate.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
This is a little squeaky sound.
The female bald eagles arebigger than the male bald eagles
.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, there's a lot to learnabout eagles.
There is a lot to learn abouteagles, for me anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
There's probably a lot more to anybody you don't
know, what you don't know ohyeah, well, we can gauge, we can
guess at the scope of it,that's true that's about it.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
We can try and make sense of the world.
And how do you do that withmathematics?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
no, I'm we're talking about eagles well, you can okay
with mathematics too, but it'sjust a part of it.
It's a part of it.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
It's important, it's true, that is true, and that's
why we're all here more math formore people, exactly all right.
Well, that's our, that's our.
We're all here Exactly Moremath for more people, exactly,
all right.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Well, that's our filling in the day with our
stories about eagles andwatching.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
They still haven't flown away.
I'm going to keep watching.
I hope one of us gets to seethe.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I hope so too.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I bet there'll be a recording as well.
There probably will be.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, the camera holds the last 24 hours or 12
hours.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I think it'll be spectacular.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And I don't think they'll fly away at night,
mm-hmm.
So it's just whether or not wecan get it at the time.
Yeah, all right.
Well, the link will be in thedescription.
If you want to go watch the BigBear Valley bald eagle, you can
.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Enjoy.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
So that is all we have time for on this episode of
the More Math for More Peoplepodcast.
If you are interested inconnecting with us on social
media, find our links in thepodcast description, and the
music for the podcast wascreated by Julius H.
It can be found on pixabaycom.
So thank you very much, julius.
Join us in two weeks for thenext episode of More Math for
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More People.
What day will that be, joel?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It'll be June 10th, national Iced Tea Day, so it'll
be fun to hear about how maybewe make our iced tea, the
history of iced tea, ice ingeneral.
Really, I know tea goes wayback.
I like to brew my iced tea or Ido like a little iced tea with
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lemonade, otherwise known as theArnold Palmer.
So on National Iced Tea Daywe'll hear some great recipe
ideas, some history behind theday, and look forward to seeing
you then on Nationalized Tea Day.
Thank you.
You are listening to the More Math for More People
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Lo and behold, it is May 27th.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It is.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
So what is the national day today?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Or what day of is today?
Today is, as a I I'mappreciative because we're
getting into a new season, maybethinking about this sort of
thing, but it's nationalsunscreen day oh, national
sunscreen day yes, I do partakein the screen oh yes very much,
so yeah, no, I, I am, I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, me too I do tan , but it takes about two or
three burns before I really tan.
And this time of year.
I have not actually tried tobecome tan in many years now,
like many years.
So I will inadvertently getsome tanning that I can detect,
(01:22):
but like I don't actually try totan anymore, but when I did,
this was always the time of theyear I would get inadvertently
sunburned.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Because, you're like new to the sun.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yes, that and the sun is much more intense right now
than I'm going to say, than youexpect, than I expected at this
time, because I do now, butbecause it's cooler, it's not
quite like it.
It doesn't feel as intense asit might in.
August but given it's like lessright, it's about a month
(01:57):
before the solstice, it's asintense as in the middle of July
.
Yeah, that's, that's, but itdoesn't feel as intense because
the heat is different.
Right, Because everything elsearound you is cooler.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I try and stay out of the sun myself.
I have a variety of colors ofsun hoodies, I have a straw hat
that I like to wear, but justwhat you said reminded me of I
think I get the most sunburnedduring the winter because one of
the activities I like to do isgo up in the mountains and go
skiing, and I don't think aboutit being yeah, cause it's cold
(02:32):
and then you're getting theextra like the direct the sun
and the reflection of this, thesnow, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well, you and I also have reason to use sunscreen,
since we have put a lot offinances into art on our bodies.
That's true, that is prettysignificantly deteriorated by UV
light.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yes, I do.
I was recently in New York Cityand somebody said, wow, when
did you get that tattoo?
And I said, well, it was awhile ago.
It's holding up really well andI thought well, because I wear
sun hoodies.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yep, exactly Yep.
I get the same thing with theone on my arm.
Like I can tell the differencesbetween what's on my hand that
I don't Like.
It gets more sun exposure thanwhat's up on my arm.
Yes, yeah, I think one of the Idon't want to say it was the
worst sunburn I ever had, butone of the most surprising
sunburns I ever got was overMemorial Day weekend, which has
(03:28):
just passed, I went out into theyard and it was a beautiful day
, it was probably 60 degrees andit was very nice, and I was
wearing a whatever like shortsleeve top or tank top or
whatever and doing garden workall day and I did not have any
sunscreen on.
I got fried, yeah, and Ilearned that.
Oh yeah, it is, it's not quoteunquote.
(03:48):
It's not summer yet.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, which always cracks me up.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But the sun is just as intense.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Do you have a worst story?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
A worst story for sunburn.
I have a worst story, but it'snot well.
It's my story, but it's not mebeing sunburned.
The worst story about sunburnthat I have is when I was
probably like five and we wentto disney world.
We lived in georgia at the timeand went to disney world and we
were staying at a hotel thatwas on the beach wherever we
(04:18):
were and I remember we were outin the beach the whole afternoon
, whatever my dad was like goingout into the waves and like
diving and bringing up seashellsand all kinds of things.
We were having so much fun outon the beach.
My mom was sitting on the sandand the next day we went to
disney world.
Well, my parents both got likesecond degree burns, at least on
(04:38):
their shoulders, like really,really badly burned.
I mean, this was back in like1974 or something too, and there
really wasn't sunscreen, evenLike.
The sunscreen was like bandisole, baby oil, whatever.
So yeah, they had really reallybad sunburns and I remember my
mom telling how it was the onetime in their marriage that they
like purposefully slept apart.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah.
Could not like sleep in thesame bed, they could fall over
each other, yeah yeah, totallywhen, when we were at at disney
world.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Of course we're walking around and we're tired
and we didn't rent strollers oranything because that would cost
money, but we wanted to get upon their shoulders all the time
because we were tired.
I remember we saw other kids ontheir shoulders shoulders like
no way we were not getting ontheir shoulders.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
No, that's Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Absolutely not, yeah.
So yeah, it's not really mystory, but it is our story.
Do you have a worst sunburnstory.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yes, I actually have a few, but this one, I think, is
the worst.
So I was on a first date withmy partner, amara, and I only
got to meet the B-level friendson the first date.
I didn't get to go to theA-level.
Well, it happened to be a poolparty, so we went to this pool
party.
(05:53):
I didn't know I was going to apool or anything, but we're
sitting out, of course, andpeople kept walking by like, hey
, dude, do you want somesunscreen?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh no, I'm good, were you trying to impress them by
using sunscreen?
I was trying to be soimpressive.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, I don't like sunscreen.
Who needs sunscreen?
Sunscreen what are you talkingabout?
I think I spent the next weekpeeling sheets of stuff off my
chest and it holds water.
I hope the listeners right noware not throwing up on their way
to work or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
We need a content warning for this podcast.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yes, oh, it was just.
It was the that was the worstand it was so painful.
And it's so weird because Iremember growing up, like my
parents we would.
We had bronzer in the house,like products to help you absorb
sun like that.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh yeah, I mean I was , when I was a young and we
would lay down out on our littlelittle bathing suits and with a
little blanket and put on babyoil yeah or use those little
like reflector things to reflectat your face and and special
sunglasses, so you couldactually like get more sun
without hurting your eyes yeah,yeah, oh well, ah, they all
(07:08):
we've, we've learned, we'velearned yes, I, I do.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
If I see some shade, I run to it now like I yeah,
it's not good to be in the sun,I think so if it's cool enough.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I don't mind being in the sun, I'm definitely also.
I need sunglasses and a hatperson too.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So I've bought a lot of visors when I've been
traveling.
Well, it was sunnier than Ithought it was going to be.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
And if you see something, say something sort of
thing.
But a friend of mine had acancerous mole and so it's from
being out in the sun.
And so if you notice that for afriend or something like that,
I would suggest that too.
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
All right.
So it's National Sunscreen Day.
You're going to put onsunscreen today.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
All over.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That's the other thing People don't realize.
You have to put a lot moresunscreen on quote unquote than
you think.
Yes, so you actually have toput quite a bit of sunscreen on
and reapply Crying out loudreapply.
Yeah, exactly, exactly, allright.
Well, the sunscreen companiesare going to be happy with us
today.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I was going to say we by no means are making any
money off of our national dayout today.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We should have thought of that before we.
We should have, we should havemade some calls.
We've already put it out.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Indeed, anyway, have a great National Sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Day Indeed.
Please wear sunscreen.
Yes, please, all right, so thisis one of those times where we
didn't really have a guest linedup.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, testing is done .
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's almost the end of the school year, oh, here we
go yeah, that's exactly it, it'sthe end of the school year and
we're just going to fill it inwith some interesting things.
So today is Joel and Misty justtalk about stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And we have been talking.
I'm glad we're recording thisbecause we do have interesting
conversations, just if anybody'swondering.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I like how you're trying to convince people.
We do have interestingconversations, by the way, but
we have been talking.
They don't always get recordedon this podcast, but we do have
interesting conversations, we do.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yes, I'm just saying but yeah, we've been talking a
lot about these big bear, baldeagles.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yes, indeed, in fact, we've been watching their eagle
nest cam Right, that's what Isay.
Eagle nest cam, yeah, and theywere born in like early March,
right, yeah, I feel likemid-March, I think that's right.
And now so they're like twomonths old.
So I've learned a lot aboutbaby eagles.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
They fledge, they fledge yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Right Between 10 and 14 weeks.
Wow.
So they grow for 10 weeks andthen boom, they can fly.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
We're still waiting, though.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
We are still waiting, but it's only been like so the
13th, I think, was the first day, so it's only been like a week.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
All right, maybe like .
So the 13th, I think, was thefirst day, so it's only been
like a week.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
All right, maybe right so they're just not so.
They're in that like 11 weekradio, yeah, but you know, so I
I I have this eagle cam open inone of my tabs and everyone's
like, oh yeah, what's happeningwith the eagles?
And I go back and I'm I knowthat there's going to be a time.
I'm going to go over there like, oh no, so I want till now, I
mean, but I'll also be sad,right because you want to see it
happen.
Yeah, absolutely.
But here's an interesting thing, like this last week or so when
(10:34):
I've been tuning in and looking.
I mean one or both of them, butone of them has been doing a
lot.
Of their names are Gizmo andSunny right.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I think that's right.
I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think that's right too.
So one of them I don't knowwhich one has been doing a lot
of standing on the edge of thenets and then stretching their
wings out and doing some bigfloppy, flap, flaps.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
And they're really big wings too, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh yeah, their wings are already like I don't know
three, four feet, whatever Imean they're big and they're
kind of like flapping.
Oh, there's a little teenychickadee, do you see it?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh, there's a tiny chickadee in the nest.
Are they going to get him?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Are you on camera one or camera two?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm on camera one.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Oh, I'm on camera two .
Let me switch to camera one Goback to camera two.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
There's a little chickadee over there, anyways,
so they make these big flaps.
It's been interesting to seethe one that's been doing it a
lot, because I think it's thesame one.
Oh, there it is.
Yeah, they stand around on thenest.
I'm going to say he, I don'tknow.
I don't know if it's Gizmo orSunny.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
We don't know their sexes either.
We don't know genders oranything.
Yeah, they're just guessing.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, so they're flapping, but they're holding on
to one of the big sticks andflapping like they're almost
like strengthened, like if Icould pick up this stick then I
can fly, you know it's.
It's been interesting to see.
I always thought so.
This is where this isinteresting in my.
I had never examined thisthought before.
Okay, but I think if you'd askme like, hey, when a bird starts
to fly, what happens?
(12:04):
I'd be like, oh well, it justlike walks over the edge of the
nest and it just goes it fliesoff Right, right.
Well, clearly, that's not what'shappening.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
No, it's not happening that way, stretching,
and they're practicing and theyhave to be watching their
parents, like they're watchingthis chickadee right now, like
flying and jumping, and they'relike what, the what, the heck, I
, how, how did you do that?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I know, yeah, they're learning by watching a little
bit of I do.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh, he's looking at the camera right now.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
He just flew away.
I can't believe how he did that.
Yeah, so it's.
It's been really interestingwatching them practice over time
doing this before they're goingto get ready, Cause I thought
that was the most amazing thingto me to think about.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Like just one day, you just decide, I can fly that
is way up there.
They're like two stories in theair I wonder how they learn
because, like we talk about,even in in a learning situation,
like it's okay to fail or it'sokay to like try again, this
seems pretty substantial that ifyou were to just jump off the
edge of the nest that wouldn'tfeel that good and you couldn't
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get back up.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I think that's why they need to do some like mini
bits right.
Some like practice in where itis safer to fail, like just, I'm
going to just like hop, flyfrom one side of the nest to the
other.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Oh yeah, I wonder if they hover, like just like hover
, over the nest.
They have to flap pretty hardto do that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I don't know they might.
But everything worked becausehe was like he was flapping, he
was flapping and then like,jumping a little bit and like
flippity-flap-flap-flap,flippity-flap-flap-flap,
flippity-flap-flap-flap, justlike that.
I like when you said the otherday, but it was just a little
(13:52):
itty bitty fish, it wasn't maybethat's how they, the parents,
get them out.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
They're just like oh yeah, you'll get hungry enough,
you'll go fly.
Come check us out over here.
Tired, I'm tired of you fishes.
It just jumped up to 41 000people are watching currently
while we're play by playing thisthing play by playing the
eagles.
We will not stop broadcastinguntil these Eagles fly.
No, I think, I don't think thatwould be a good idea.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Also, it wouldn't be very useful because by the time
people see it here, it would belike five days later they're
like what?
Oh, I could go look right now.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Oh, they left five days ago, dang.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Oh, anyway, anyway, yeah, no, it's been really
interesting watching the eaglesget bigger, like from little.
I think I have only beenwatching them for like a couple
months.
Well, no, like, no, it hasn'tbeen that long, clearly, maybe a
month or so, yeah, but theywere like little gray, fuzzy
blobs.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh my gosh, they couldn't move Barely out of the
egg.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, they are crazy Little blob.
They could look like worms,kind of like couldn't do
anything.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Now look at them.
Try and stand and fall over.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, that was a big deal when they could start
standing.
I remember too, there were acouple of days of springtime,
but like the snow would comeback in and they'd have to
hunker down and stay warm.
Yeah well, they're up in theelevation up there.
They're down.
What up above LA?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
in the elevation up there, they're down what up
above LA in the hills up thereNear San Bernardino.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, indeed, shout out.
Yeah, oh man.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, so watching these eagles has been pretty
cool.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It is pretty cool Someday.
Someday they're going to fly.
I'm pretty sure of it.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Somebody's can't wait to see who fledges first.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Uh-huh, I think that's.
The big thing is like who'sgoing to do it first?
We don't know which one's which.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
but I know Sunny or Gizmo, one of the two.
Yeah, I know it's going tohappen.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, so what else are we going to talk about?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, that was our main thing.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, talking about the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So San Bernardino is a district that has adopted the
CPM curriculum.
And I was there recently andthey told me that there on
Fridays they would let theirstudents watch a little bit of
the video.
I'm sure the students arewatching anyway on their own,
but it's easily accessible foranybody.
(16:10):
It's not hidden content oranything like that.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh yeah, no, we'll put a link in the podcast.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
But it was cool because I was at the school that
their mascot was the Eagles, sothey had some pride around
what's happening in this area.
Kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, Eagles is a pretty common mascot.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah For Washkey also the Eagles, mm-hmm kind of cool
.
Yeah, eagles is a pretty commonmascot yeah, fort Washakie,
also the Eagles.
Salt Lake too, we have someEagle areas.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I think we could probably find just about any.
Any school district, not anyschool district If there were
four or five schools in it.
I bet one of them was Eagles.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I did see an Eagle in Minnesota one time too, an
actual bald Eagle, bald eagle.
Yeah, they were actually twobald eagles were.
I thought they were fightingfor a nest.
Maybe they were mating, maybethey were doing something but I
was just mentioning that I'veseen eagles everywhere thank you
, you've seen eagles?
Have you seen?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean, you've seen eagles other than that, haven't
you?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
yeah, oh uh.
Magical time for me was when Ifirst moved out west here.
I had taken a trip to JacksonHole and I remember I was in
charge of the driving, so I wasdriving right next to the Snake
River and everybody else wassleeping.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So I was just In your car.
It was very personal to me thatan eagle just soared right next
to me for about a good mile orso we just had a little moment,
yeah, like up the river yeah,nice, yeah, it was awesome I
feel like when I was a kid andwe're, you know, we're a similar
age when I was a kid I feellike seeing a bald eagle is just
(17:47):
oh my gosh.
It was so amazing to see baldeagles up toward Alaska and
Canada and stuff come down inwinter there and in the Skagit
(18:19):
River, because there's lots offish and the salmon come up and
eat all the fish and there'll belike hundreds of eagles, like
people will do like raft tripsdown the river and stuff, just
to bald eagle watch and you'lljust.
they're just, they're just.
Quote, unquote, everywhere sojust just amazing to me.
Yeah, so like it became reallycommonplace to see them.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I've seen some even here in portland I still feel
like it's special when I see onelike I don't ever feel like
it's commonplace.
One time I was driving fromutah to Utah to Minneapolis and.
I was with Wendell, my dog, andwe were camping along the way
and we made a stop at Pony Lake,which is in Kansas, and I
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remember it was a recommendationfrom the DNR.
Is that the right acronym forthe Department of Natural
Resources?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yes, it is, yes, it would be.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
And so he suggested I just go up the road a little
bit.
And I pulled up and it was justme on Pony Lake, and Pony Lake
was named after it was on theNorthern Railroad.
So there was a cave there wherethey used to hide ponies to
help the slaves go from thesouth to the north.
No-transcript.
(19:54):
I was like, okay, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Good thing Wendell was next to you oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I had a witness, number one but two.
It was just like I better pinchmyself go to bed.
I don't know, this seems tooperfect a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Uh-huh.
No, that's pretty, that'smagical, magical, that's pretty
amazing.
Yeah, yeah, no, I think they'restill pretty impressive to see.
They're just, they're so big.
Their white heads are clearlyso like majestic seeming at the
same time.
Yeah, they're definitely.
They're definitely pretty coolbirds what if?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
was it benjamin franklin?
He said he wanted the wildturkey to be our national
turkeys are pretty cool too allright well, they're what they're
way.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
They're way cooler than domestic turkeys domestic
fair.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I agree with that, you know, I would concur, are
they've.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
We have not bred brains into them right so wild
turkeys are actually pretty darncool.
Have you seen it?
I mean mean, you've seen wildturkeys?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I have.
Yeah, there's some around herethat are not in Portland but
outside of Portland.
I was in.
South Dakota home of ourdirector, and I was close to her
house, actually, and I had tostop the car because these wild
turkeys were just running acrossthe road.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, that's super cool, crazy, super cool.
Yeah, yeah, I think that it is,and there's a couple of funny
things about bald eagles that Iwas just thinking of.
So you've heard the noise theymake, right?
Their sound Like there's justthese big, huge majestic birds
and they make this littlesqueaky noise.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I can't mimic it very well.
That's pretty good.
It just sounds like a squeakygate.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
This is a little squeaky sound.
The female bald eagles arebigger than the male bald eagles
.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, there's a lot to learnabout eagles.
There is a lot to learn abouteagles, for me anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
There's probably a lot more to anybody you don't
know, what you don't know ohyeah, well, we can gauge, we can
guess at the scope of it,that's true that's about it.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
We can try and make sense of the world.
And how do you do that withmathematics?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
no, I'm we're talking about eagles well, you can okay
with mathematics too, but it'sjust a part of it.
It's a part of it.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
It's important, it's true, that is true, and that's
why we're all here more math formore people, exactly all right.
Well, that's our, that's our.
We're all here Exactly Moremath for more people, exactly,
all right.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Well, that's our filling in the day with our
stories about eagles andwatching.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
They still haven't flown away.
I'm going to keep watching.
I hope one of us gets to seethe.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I hope so too.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I bet there'll be a recording as well.
There probably will be.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, the camera holds the last 24 hours or 12
hours.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I think it'll be spectacular.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And I don't think they'll fly away at night,
mm-hmm.
So it's just whether or not wecan get it at the time.
Yeah, all right.
Well, the link will be in thedescription.
If you want to go watch the BigBear Valley bald eagle, you can
.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Enjoy.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
So that is all we have time for on this episode of
the More Math for More Peoplepodcast.
If you are interested inconnecting with us on social
media, find our links in thepodcast description, and the
music for the podcast wascreated by Julius H.
It can be found on pixabaycom.
So thank you very much, julius.
Join us in two weeks for thenext episode of More Math for
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More People.
What day will that be, joel?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It'll be June 10th, national Iced Tea Day, so it'll
be fun to hear about how maybewe make our iced tea, the
history of iced tea, ice ingeneral.
Really, I know tea goes wayback.
I like to brew my iced tea or Ido like a little iced tea with
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lemonade, otherwise known as theArnold Palmer.
So on National Iced Tea Daywe'll hear some great recipe
ideas, some history behind theday, and look forward to seeing
you then on Nationalized Tea Day.
Thank you.
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