December 18, 2025 • 15 mins
Crystal interviews a listener out of northern California whose story ties into a generational story of Morgellons.
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(00:01):
I tell no one and I tell all whomay hear.
I'm crystal clear and you who appear here, I have chosen you
and I've been chosen by you too.Or we are lashed.
Or we have crashed. And when you've been here for
100 years, you'll know times drag and flash.
How it accrues by the eyelash and closes the gap and opens the
trap. And by the way, what the hell is
(00:21):
this crap? It's morgalons.
And you're listening to the The Wedding podcast.
More morgalons. I'm crystal clear your host
because on today's show I'd like.
To introduce a monkey. You don't know, even though you
know his mother before that, younever love her.
(00:45):
And now it's time for the next story on down the line.
Yes, this is a family Morgalon drama saga, the story of
triumph, fortitude and personal growth that I am proud to share
and honored to share. It started with life and death,
with Morgalon's episode. It progressed to the Morgalon's
(01:06):
Gospel miniseries, and now we have another story from the same
family, all affected by Morgalon.
Those who are left, those who have survived, I'm honored to
bring you this story. And this is just the first part,
so stick around. It's going to be a great
(01:28):
episode. The like defining what failure
is. So I absolutely hate failure.
I hate it on every single level really, and also on something
that matters. I don't fail until I quit, yeah.
So I may stumble, I may hit my head, I may get turned around
(01:48):
upside down underwater. But yeah, I haven't failed yet
because there's still more to keep going.
Exactly. Like, no, I refuse with
violence, the concept of finality.
You know what I mean? Like, no idea is ever final.
No story is ever final. And still in the play.
(02:08):
It's still in the mix. Guys, I know it looks like I'm
losing now, but it always looks like this right before I win.
Yeah. You know, I mean, seriously,
nobody likes failure. Duh.
It's it's so obvious that peoplethat succeed are people that
fail, right? I guess I said why I said I
assumed that about you, you're not afraid to fail in public is
(02:28):
because we're like taught to be inhibited.
You know, like if I go into a kindergarten classroom and I'm
like, who in here can sing? Every hand in that room will be
like shooting up. Some people already start
singing. If I go into a college classroom
and I say raise your hand if youcan sing, you know, there'll be
like 4 people, you know, I mean,it's like that's the thing.
(02:51):
Anyone can sing. I didn't ask whether anyone was
a singer, but anyone could sing.And if and, and of course, you
know, society and socialization just it breathes out of us, you
know, that uninhibited expression, you know, and, and
because we got to follow the rules and we got to fit in and
we got to belong and this and stuff.
So I think people who are able to improv are people who never
(03:15):
quite let go of that, like me, me, me, I can do it, you know
what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
I I I I I I agree with that. It's also just like it's a
certain level for me where I still like, I struggle to like
start new things. So it's like, it's even like I
(03:37):
definitely would say like I'm terrified of failure all the
time, but I'm something that I am am good at or that I am able
to get past my own bullshit enough to start.
I'm able to go hard and commit until I'm good and then.
Keep going, yes, like you're in,you're in school right now, you
know, learning and, you know, training to do your profession.
(03:59):
It was like when I got into nursing school, I was like, oh,
it's on, you know what I mean? Like there was no problem
getting shit done because it waslike, this is what I'm going to
I do, this is who I'm gonna be. It was the same way when I
walked into my first job. I'm like, are any positions
open? Can I get promoted?
They're like, you've been here 3days.
(04:22):
But it's weird because there's so many other things where I'm I
have 30 projects that are forgetnot finished.
They're not started like, you know what I mean?
Like it's extremely hard to do it all, you know, or to do any
of it. Do you have a lot of you have a
(04:45):
lot of ideas and visions of things that you want to do?
I mean, that's a very hard thingto quantify on whether what
defines a lot. Yeah, right.
I would say like I have ideas about things and I kind of to
compare to how you're describingit and what I know about my mom.
(05:08):
I have very, very few compared to you guys, OK.
I see what you're. Saying and and and like
interacting with with my mom about that topic is like she's
like, oh, I got this topic to doblah blah blah blah blah.
Then also be able to do blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
So also have a sewing machine tothen be able to like put them
together and do both at the sametime.
Yeah. And then I'm like, yeah, you
know, I just want to get good atthis like one thing and then
(05:31):
that's. Like which is so wise?
Which is so wise. But yeah, I have like, say like
a handful of priorities and thenI kind of want to just like
commit to those. That's like kind of the the way
that I, I go through things because I'm, I'm a very
structured person. Yeah, yeah, that'll do.
(05:53):
I I like to like, have my internal self organized and
united and like commit to something and then go for it.
Absolutely. That's, that's the clarity that
brings peace. You know, you're not, you're not
conflicted. You, you know what you want and
you're going after it, you know?Yeah, it's interesting.
(06:15):
That's very interesting because I, I, I do feel like I was much,
much like that when I was younger and I'm not like that
now. And I, I won't say that's
because of the morgues, but I will say that in spite of the
fact that I am no longer, I'm like a mixed up Rubik's Cube
now. Like I, I'm not structured now,
(06:36):
but I still am able to, for whatever reason.
And it doesn't seem like I choose the things that I have
this fidelity to, But like, there's still things that I am
committed to doing. Like this podcast, for instance,
like 5 years, 400 episodes, you know what I mean?
Like, I don't know why I wish I could like, you know, handle my
taxes like that, but you know, like, I don't know why I do the
(07:00):
things I do. And I don't seem to have any
discipline over which ones they are.
But luckily one of them makes memoney.
And you know, luckily, you know,some of them are, are valuable
to other people, but most of it is just like me, like kind of
compulsively, like insistently, tenaciously going after
something, you know, right. Yeah.
(07:22):
Do you feel like the things thatcalled you, did they call you
like that though? Like, do you pick, you know, the
things that you pursue or do they pick you?
Both, yeah. So it's kind of like mixture of
things. I kind of, I'll use like kind of
(07:43):
one for an example of poetry. So around a year ago I had some
health issues besides Morgellonscome up.
Apparently I was having heart attack symptoms and was having
like, yeah, I was very altered. I could barely move myself and
(08:03):
like I was basically just like down for the count.
And so in that kind of crisis and things, it was very scary.
But it was in the aftermath of that where I was having these
kind of attacks on occasion. Yeah.
And, like, spiking chest pain. And we didn't know where it was
(08:25):
from and what was happening. And, like, I was out of school
and work because I wasn't able to drive.
And I was just like at home. So destabilized and it was.
In it was in that place where it's like felt like COVID all
over again. And I I thought I came to.
How old were you when COVID happened?
(08:46):
How old were you? I was like 15.
I think 1516 was my sophomore year high.
School. That's a big deal.
Yeah. Go on.
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
And I was like in that place where I was just like at home
and yeah, my Morgellons was really bad.
(09:07):
My whatever weird condition thatwas happening to me was really
bad. And.
Mystery illness #2 thanks universe like.
Yeah. And in that place, that was one
where I kind of decided to try and like I, I'm always, I've
always been a very verbal person.
I've always been. No articulative speech and like
(09:28):
focusing on how I. Can like precise.
Verbalize things and and being precise with my words.
Yes. Yeah, because you want to
actually communicate, you know what you actually mean.
Yeah, that precision is something I definitely
recognize. Yeah.
And being called to teach othersand things of that nature and
just things involving words. I mean even when I was in my
(09:51):
voice acting stuff is the first accent I made I made when I was
in 3rd grade by just copying what the TVA were.
Cuz all the antagonists are Russian.
I love it. I love it.
Oh my God. I was doing impersonations when
I was like 5 too. Yes.
Oh God, I want to hear it. But the the I mean, of course I
can do a number of accents. Yes, yes, I love it.
(10:13):
Yours is way better than mine that I think I've done on this
show at least three times. Yeah, as far as like those
accents, I've like spent the numbers and numbers of hours to
make them accurate. And that's why they're good, a
lot of. Work.
But but even like is like a Texan Southern accent.
Yeah, yeah. Or like a British accent, or an
(10:34):
Irish accent, or a Scottish. 10 Nice nice rain a.
Lot of them. We have to do a skit.
I'm sorry, we have to. But yeah, that was where in my
pain and frustration, I was called to basically put my
(10:58):
experience into words. But of course, words are faulty.
Words are like no. No words can encapsulate an
entire experience, no. Way we know you become a
nihilist if you really dig into words.
Right. And and So what kind of got me
like, I kind of started doing poetry.
And so I kind of just like wrotea poem.
(11:20):
And it wasn't that that good, but it was like, it meant
something to me. Yeah.
And so then I was able to do more and more and more and more
and more of it. And so everybody starts as the
kindergartner, You know, you don't know what you're doing,
but yeah, yeah. Yeah.
And so it was like I I kind of focus in and like put my energy
into poetry over the course of like a while writing maybe a
(11:43):
poem once every couple weeks. Yes, yeah.
And like where whenever I had anan experience that need to be
needed to be written down and I was like.
Was it like an impulse like a like almost like I have to write
this now? Like, was it like that I.
No, it was just that I had an experience that needed an out.
(12:03):
I needed somewhere to put. It that's what I.
Mean, of course, that's what I mean, yeah.
I wanted to just like poetry forme or all the words I wish I
could have said, like like that's, that's kind of what it
means to me. And like how I can put an
experience into words so that itcan really match what I really
(12:26):
like, what I was feeling. Inside like you're authoring it,
you know what I mean? Like you're making it so in the
world and and that is power, right?
You know, that's power and it's it's also, I think I'm sorry.
Go ahead. And like to even go like
further, that was words. I, I spend the time to perfect
(12:49):
it. Like I don't, I don't skip on
and say like, oh, hey, I wrote apoem and that was fun.
Let me go. Interesting.
Draw Something or put something else.
So you started crafting it? Right.
And until now, it's like, I meanlike a lot of things that I do
where it's not about the result,it's like and it is about the
result like I try and just. Make it right, Yes.
(13:10):
Making. It's not the artifact, it's the
artifacting. Yeah, Yeah, right.
And so it's the, it's like the process of improvement, which is
what I latch onto so much and like to this point where I for
my ceramics and sculpture, I could be like go into that fully
as a career if I like I have theskill for that and my poetry and
(13:33):
my voice acting. And like my, I mean, a lot of a
lot of these different hobbies of mine where I just kind of
committed years to them and thenbecame good enough to now
they're like stand alone. You're becoming a Renaissance
man is what you're becoming. Isn't it interesting how the,
the references to clay and the Bible are some of the, I guess
(13:56):
most that speak the most to whatit means to be like human and
like what it means to be a creator part of the creation.
But we are also creators of the creation.
And it's, you know, the divine within us.
You know, it's just, it's interesting.
We're made of clay, but we're also made of stars, you know,
right. Right.
Who just came in my house? Hang on, Tom.
(14:20):
Hey, all right, listeners, there's plenty more to come in
this story. I will formally introduce you to
this caller who is just absolutely full of wisdom beyond
his years, full of insights thatI personally had never thought
of and and even some treatment ideas for those of you out there
(14:41):
still searching for different treatment modalities.
I so look forward to bringing you the rest of this story.
It is essential to this archive,right?
More morgolons@gmail.com. To all of those who have already
shared your story, thank you so fucking much.
Your bravery and your generosityare what makes this show.
I tell no one and I tell all whomay hear.
I'm crystal clear and you who appear here, I have chosen you
and I've been chosen by you too.Or we are lashed.
Or we have crashed. And when you've been here for
100 years, you'll know times drag and flash.
How it accrues by the eyelash and closes the gap and opens the
trap. And by the way, what the hell is
(00:21):
this crap? It's morgalons.
And you're listening to the The Wedding podcast.
More morgalons. I'm crystal clear your host
because on today's show I'd like.
To introduce a monkey. You don't know, even though you
know his mother before that, younever love her.
(00:45):
And now it's time for the next story on down the line.
Yes, this is a family Morgalon drama saga, the story of
triumph, fortitude and personal growth that I am proud to share
and honored to share. It started with life and death,
with Morgalon's episode. It progressed to the Morgalon's
(01:06):
Gospel miniseries, and now we have another story from the same
family, all affected by Morgalon.
Those who are left, those who have survived, I'm honored to
bring you this story. And this is just the first part,
so stick around. It's going to be a great
(01:28):
episode. The like defining what failure
is. So I absolutely hate failure.
I hate it on every single level really, and also on something
that matters. I don't fail until I quit, yeah.
So I may stumble, I may hit my head, I may get turned around
(01:48):
upside down underwater. But yeah, I haven't failed yet
because there's still more to keep going.
Exactly. Like, no, I refuse with
violence, the concept of finality.
You know what I mean? Like, no idea is ever final.
No story is ever final. And still in the play.
(02:08):
It's still in the mix. Guys, I know it looks like I'm
losing now, but it always looks like this right before I win.
Yeah. You know, I mean, seriously,
nobody likes failure. Duh.
It's it's so obvious that peoplethat succeed are people that
fail, right? I guess I said why I said I
assumed that about you, you're not afraid to fail in public is
(02:28):
because we're like taught to be inhibited.
You know, like if I go into a kindergarten classroom and I'm
like, who in here can sing? Every hand in that room will be
like shooting up. Some people already start
singing. If I go into a college classroom
and I say raise your hand if youcan sing, you know, there'll be
like 4 people, you know, I mean,it's like that's the thing.
(02:51):
Anyone can sing. I didn't ask whether anyone was
a singer, but anyone could sing.And if and, and of course, you
know, society and socialization just it breathes out of us, you
know, that uninhibited expression, you know, and, and
because we got to follow the rules and we got to fit in and
we got to belong and this and stuff.
So I think people who are able to improv are people who never
(03:15):
quite let go of that, like me, me, me, I can do it, you know
what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
I I I I I I agree with that. It's also just like it's a
certain level for me where I still like, I struggle to like
start new things. So it's like, it's even like I
(03:37):
definitely would say like I'm terrified of failure all the
time, but I'm something that I am am good at or that I am able
to get past my own bullshit enough to start.
I'm able to go hard and commit until I'm good and then.
Keep going, yes, like you're in,you're in school right now, you
know, learning and, you know, training to do your profession.
(03:59):
It was like when I got into nursing school, I was like, oh,
it's on, you know what I mean? Like there was no problem
getting shit done because it waslike, this is what I'm going to
I do, this is who I'm gonna be. It was the same way when I
walked into my first job. I'm like, are any positions
open? Can I get promoted?
They're like, you've been here 3days.
(04:22):
But it's weird because there's so many other things where I'm I
have 30 projects that are forgetnot finished.
They're not started like, you know what I mean?
Like it's extremely hard to do it all, you know, or to do any
of it. Do you have a lot of you have a
(04:45):
lot of ideas and visions of things that you want to do?
I mean, that's a very hard thingto quantify on whether what
defines a lot. Yeah, right.
I would say like I have ideas about things and I kind of to
compare to how you're describingit and what I know about my mom.
(05:08):
I have very, very few compared to you guys, OK.
I see what you're. Saying and and and like
interacting with with my mom about that topic is like she's
like, oh, I got this topic to doblah blah blah blah blah.
Then also be able to do blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
So also have a sewing machine tothen be able to like put them
together and do both at the sametime.
Yeah. And then I'm like, yeah, you
know, I just want to get good atthis like one thing and then
(05:31):
that's. Like which is so wise?
Which is so wise. But yeah, I have like, say like
a handful of priorities and thenI kind of want to just like
commit to those. That's like kind of the the way
that I, I go through things because I'm, I'm a very
structured person. Yeah, yeah, that'll do.
(05:53):
I I like to like, have my internal self organized and
united and like commit to something and then go for it.
Absolutely. That's, that's the clarity that
brings peace. You know, you're not, you're not
conflicted. You, you know what you want and
you're going after it, you know?Yeah, it's interesting.
(06:15):
That's very interesting because I, I, I do feel like I was much,
much like that when I was younger and I'm not like that
now. And I, I won't say that's
because of the morgues, but I will say that in spite of the
fact that I am no longer, I'm like a mixed up Rubik's Cube
now. Like I, I'm not structured now,
(06:36):
but I still am able to, for whatever reason.
And it doesn't seem like I choose the things that I have
this fidelity to, But like, there's still things that I am
committed to doing. Like this podcast, for instance,
like 5 years, 400 episodes, you know what I mean?
Like, I don't know why I wish I could like, you know, handle my
taxes like that, but you know, like, I don't know why I do the
(07:00):
things I do. And I don't seem to have any
discipline over which ones they are.
But luckily one of them makes memoney.
And you know, luckily, you know,some of them are, are valuable
to other people, but most of it is just like me, like kind of
compulsively, like insistently, tenaciously going after
something, you know, right. Yeah.
(07:22):
Do you feel like the things thatcalled you, did they call you
like that though? Like, do you pick, you know, the
things that you pursue or do they pick you?
Both, yeah. So it's kind of like mixture of
things. I kind of, I'll use like kind of
(07:43):
one for an example of poetry. So around a year ago I had some
health issues besides Morgellonscome up.
Apparently I was having heart attack symptoms and was having
like, yeah, I was very altered. I could barely move myself and
(08:03):
like I was basically just like down for the count.
And so in that kind of crisis and things, it was very scary.
But it was in the aftermath of that where I was having these
kind of attacks on occasion. Yeah.
And, like, spiking chest pain. And we didn't know where it was
(08:25):
from and what was happening. And, like, I was out of school
and work because I wasn't able to drive.
And I was just like at home. So destabilized and it was.
In it was in that place where it's like felt like COVID all
over again. And I I thought I came to.
How old were you when COVID happened?
(08:46):
How old were you? I was like 15.
I think 1516 was my sophomore year high.
School. That's a big deal.
Yeah. Go on.
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
And I was like in that place where I was just like at home
and yeah, my Morgellons was really bad.
(09:07):
My whatever weird condition thatwas happening to me was really
bad. And.
Mystery illness #2 thanks universe like.
Yeah. And in that place, that was one
where I kind of decided to try and like I, I'm always, I've
always been a very verbal person.
I've always been. No articulative speech and like
(09:28):
focusing on how I. Can like precise.
Verbalize things and and being precise with my words.
Yes. Yeah, because you want to
actually communicate, you know what you actually mean.
Yeah, that precision is something I definitely
recognize. Yeah.
And being called to teach othersand things of that nature and
just things involving words. I mean even when I was in my
(09:51):
voice acting stuff is the first accent I made I made when I was
in 3rd grade by just copying what the TVA were.
Cuz all the antagonists are Russian.
I love it. I love it.
Oh my God. I was doing impersonations when
I was like 5 too. Yes.
Oh God, I want to hear it. But the the I mean, of course I
can do a number of accents. Yes, yes, I love it.
(10:13):
Yours is way better than mine that I think I've done on this
show at least three times. Yeah, as far as like those
accents, I've like spent the numbers and numbers of hours to
make them accurate. And that's why they're good, a
lot of. Work.
But but even like is like a Texan Southern accent.
Yeah, yeah. Or like a British accent, or an
(10:34):
Irish accent, or a Scottish. 10 Nice nice rain a.
Lot of them. We have to do a skit.
I'm sorry, we have to. But yeah, that was where in my
pain and frustration, I was called to basically put my
(10:58):
experience into words. But of course, words are faulty.
Words are like no. No words can encapsulate an
entire experience, no. Way we know you become a
nihilist if you really dig into words.
Right. And and So what kind of got me
like, I kind of started doing poetry.
And so I kind of just like wrotea poem.
(11:20):
And it wasn't that that good, but it was like, it meant
something to me. Yeah.
And so then I was able to do more and more and more and more
and more of it. And so everybody starts as the
kindergartner, You know, you don't know what you're doing,
but yeah, yeah. Yeah.
And so it was like I I kind of focus in and like put my energy
into poetry over the course of like a while writing maybe a
(11:43):
poem once every couple weeks. Yes, yeah.
And like where whenever I had anan experience that need to be
needed to be written down and I was like.
Was it like an impulse like a like almost like I have to write
this now? Like, was it like that I.
No, it was just that I had an experience that needed an out.
(12:03):
I needed somewhere to put. It that's what I.
Mean, of course, that's what I mean, yeah.
I wanted to just like poetry forme or all the words I wish I
could have said, like like that's, that's kind of what it
means to me. And like how I can put an
experience into words so that itcan really match what I really
(12:26):
like, what I was feeling. Inside like you're authoring it,
you know what I mean? Like you're making it so in the
world and and that is power, right?
You know, that's power and it's it's also, I think I'm sorry.
Go ahead. And like to even go like
further, that was words. I, I spend the time to perfect
(12:49):
it. Like I don't, I don't skip on
and say like, oh, hey, I wrote apoem and that was fun.
Let me go. Interesting.
Draw Something or put something else.
So you started crafting it? Right.
And until now, it's like, I meanlike a lot of things that I do
where it's not about the result,it's like and it is about the
result like I try and just. Make it right, Yes.
(13:10):
Making. It's not the artifact, it's the
artifacting. Yeah, Yeah, right.
And so it's the, it's like the process of improvement, which is
what I latch onto so much and like to this point where I for
my ceramics and sculpture, I could be like go into that fully
as a career if I like I have theskill for that and my poetry and
(13:33):
my voice acting. And like my, I mean, a lot of a
lot of these different hobbies of mine where I just kind of
committed years to them and thenbecame good enough to now
they're like stand alone. You're becoming a Renaissance
man is what you're becoming. Isn't it interesting how the,
the references to clay and the Bible are some of the, I guess
(13:56):
most that speak the most to whatit means to be like human and
like what it means to be a creator part of the creation.
But we are also creators of the creation.
And it's, you know, the divine within us.
You know, it's just, it's interesting.
We're made of clay, but we're also made of stars, you know,
right. Right.
Who just came in my house? Hang on, Tom.
(14:20):
Hey, all right, listeners, there's plenty more to come in
this story. I will formally introduce you to
this caller who is just absolutely full of wisdom beyond
his years, full of insights thatI personally had never thought
of and and even some treatment ideas for those of you out there
(14:41):
still searching for different treatment modalities.
I so look forward to bringing you the rest of this story.
It is essential to this archive,right?
More morgolons@gmail.com. To all of those who have already
shared your story, thank you so fucking much.
Your bravery and your generosityare what makes this show.
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