The debate is heating up—DC and Silicon Valley are deeply split over DOGE.
This week on More or Less, Jessica and Brit hold down the fort (while the husbands ski Alaska’s powder) with media heavyweights Ben Smith of Semafor and Nick Carlson of Dynamo.
This week’s big swings:
• The Signal Group Chat Scandal
• DOGE divides: Silicon Valley cheers efficiency, DC smells ideology
• China’s BYD overtakes Tesla: Is Elon losing supporters?
Plus, whispers of fake AI revenue, ChatGPT’s image wizardry, and a nod to The Information’s SABEW haul.
Featuring:
1) Ben Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-smith-04b1403/
2) Nicholas Carlson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholasmcarlson/
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1) Ben Smith: https://x.com/semaforben
2) Nicholas Carlson: https://x.com/nichcarlson
3) Sam Lessin: https://x.com/lessin
4) Dave Morin: https://x.com/davemorin
5) Jessica Lessin: https://x.com/Jessicalessin
6) Brit Morin: https://x.com/brit
00:00 Trailer
01:29 Our guests and our husband clones
08:23 The Signal group chat scandal
12:01 The Atlantic's marketing
19:25 Ethics impact
23:27 DOGE divides
35:06 Trump, the tech giants and pragmatism
39:35 Wiz deal, arms race,
42:44 11X and straight up fraud
49:50 ChatGPT's Image Generator
51:41 Using AI: what would JD Vance do?
55:40 AI and journalism side by side
57:02 Outro
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