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April 18, 2025 48 mins

With Jess and Sam taking the week off Brit and Dave are joined by two leading voices in venture and tech: Ben Lerer (Managing Partner, Lerer Hippeau) and Morgan Beller (General Partner, NFX; Co-creator of Libra). 


Together, they dive into the shifting tides of tech, venture, and AI:


– OpenAI’s next move: A social network?

– Venture’s broken math

– The ‘AI’ label inflation, and

– Figma’s IPO and what it signals for tech


Plus, Ben and Morgan weigh space travel risks—would you commit to a ticket to Mars?


Let us know in the comments below!


00:00 Trailer

01:16 Guest Intro

03:39 VC East Coast scene

08:39 Offline from tech

10:32 OpenAI social media leak?

15:08 Investing in AI

22:59 Like AI companies

28:49 Figma's Potentital IPO

33:08 LPs and founders are pissed

41:52 Pop culture corner: Katy Perry went to space

45:02 Humans on Mars by 2040?

46:36 Outro


Featuring:

Ben Lerer: https://x.com/benjlerer

Morgan Beller: https://x.com/beller


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1) Sam Lessin: https://x.com/lessin

2) Dave Morin: https://x.com/davemorin

3) Jessica Lessin: https://x.com/Jessicalessin

4) Brit Morin: https://x.com/brit

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