January 21, 2025 • 31 mins
This episode focuses on effective goal setting and the strategies to achieve them, drawing lessons from personal experiences and past challenges. We explore the importance of environment, structure, and regular reflection in maintaining focus and accountability throughout the year.
• Importance of changing environments in goal setting
• Overview of our journey from nine-to-five to entrepreneurship
• Introduction of the five pillars guiding our goals
• Emphasis on reflecting on past achievements
• Importance of trust and will for family security
• Utility of tracking net worth for financial health
• Maintaining focus through a 'word of the year'
• Systems versus goals: creating actionable strategies
• Intentional actions lead to greater success and fulfillment
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
What's going on, guys ?
Welcome to another episode ofthe more than a side hustle
podcast, where we helpnine-to-fives create more impact
, income and influence outsidetheir jobs.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And my name is Anthony and I'm Janoka and we
are happy to be back.
I'm laughing because the lasttime we did episodes we said
we're back.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I don't know how long ago that was, and we really
weren't back.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Are we back this time ?
We're back this time.
This time we're speaking aboutgoal setting.
Right, we're speaking about notnecessarily just our goals, but
how to goal set and what we didand maybe this can help you as
well, no matter when you listento this and we'll speak about
the goals of the podcast as well.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
We'll figure out by the end of this podcast if we
are back or we just kind of sitout back, or we're just doing
things.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But this time you know that we weren't as
consistent, because the lastreview let's tell people who we
are.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So if you are, if you are a first-time listener, if
you guys don't know, we are twotechnically former
nine-to-fivers.
We built multiple seven-figurebusinesses outside of our jobs
and now we help others do thesame, the same um, whether it's
a in person, whether it's adigital, physical product.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So we continue to share our story and share our
impact as you said that thiswould be my first year as, my
first full year as anine-to-fiver if I last the full
year, what do you mean?
I mean as a, not anine-to-fiver, excuse me my
first full year as anentrepreneur, as a full-time
entrepreneur, as a full-timeentrepreneur, because, um,
previous episode, go back, thelast one we said we spoke about,
(01:36):
uh, me losing my job in august.
So this will be the first fullyear of full-time
entrepreneurship for me.
You are going on to your fourthyear of doing it, which sounds
absolutely nuts.
Exactly so anyways, before Ithink we should speak about, do
we want to speak about the goalsof the podcast before we jump
in or just intertwine it in?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
No, we're intertwining it in because, well
, happy new year everyone.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Always the question when do you stop saying it?
When do you stop saying?
When do you stop?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I don't know, somebody's like the second week
and then also, if you listen tothis, it might be the third or
fourth week of january,depending when we release this.
Technically national quittersday has passed.
So if you had a goal or you hadsomething you want to
accomplish and you're no longerdoing it, most people stop doing
it by the second week, which iswhere you also realize the
second week of the gym kind ofcalms down.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
People stop going to the gym.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
They're like you know what.
So by the second week if you'restill here by the second week
of January, that means you madeit past most people's goals of
the year.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
But so goal setting is something that's very
important to us.
If you've been around for a fewyears, it tends to look the
same.
We first started goal settingwith um going to somewhere
special.
So like usually we're doing asteakhouse, we're bringing a
computer, ipad, all of thethings to plan out our night, to
plan our year.
Sorry, and the reason we didthat was to get away from the
(03:00):
noise.
At that time, when we started,the noise was just our dog blue.
We just wanted a differentsetting.
But, as you know, we have twokids now and we still that's how
we did it the previous yearsgoing to our fancy restaurant,
planning it out, recapping ourprevious year and then planning
the next year.
Last year was a littledifferent.
It was a bit more stiffy.
(03:20):
What did you decide to do?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
so.
And when she said, when shesays, get away from the noise,
it's just change of environment,and I think that's super
important.
So I changed the environmentagain and I booked a conference
room.
And the way I would.
I booked a conference room, wehad a whiteboard, we bought our
laptops, we had a screen, wewere able to display what the
notes were.
So it was more of a formalizedmeeting, what the notes were.
So it was more of a formalizedmeeting.
(03:45):
And between the steakhouse andbetween the formalized office
setting, what do you feel likeyou enjoyed more out of those
two?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, the office, see the office setting.
We were in there for eighthours.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
The steakhouse.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You can't do that because obviously it's a
restaurant, so you can't bethere that long and so maybe
sometimes you don't even needthat long.
But because we had the time, weused it, we used the time.
It's not like it was dead space, but we actually did use this.
I don't know which one I likedmore than the other, it was just
different.
It just was different.
Yeah, I don't know at thispoint of the way that goals are
(04:19):
growing and different things arechanging, I don't know that a
restaurant is the setting for useither, though I do feel we
need a bit more time, a bit morespace, a bit more.
You know, it's a little weirdhaving a laptop at a steakhouse
asking for their Wi-Fi.
It is a little bizarre.
You got your laptop, you gotyour iPad, you got your notepad.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
We want you guys to think about just changing your
environment, if you haven'talready.
I was actually listening to apodcast and they were like
listen, I'm not really focusedon the new year until the second
month of the year.
It's like the clock strikes 12and it's a new month, it's a new
year, but that doesn't mean youhave to get up and do
everything then, and that'ssomething that we've always
(04:59):
tried to be intentional about.
It's like by the time the newyear comes, we want to have our
goals and everything inalignment.
If you listen to the lastpodcast, it was a solo episode I
did and I talked about, insteadof creating goals, create
systems.
We'll talk about some of thosesystems as well, but that's one
of the things we wanted to getaway from is just that um,
stuffy environment.
But then also we knew that wecouldn't just go to the
steakhouse, so we did change itup again this year and we'll
(05:19):
talk about the format.
So how do we change it up againthis year?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So, this year we went to Mexico it didn't start there
.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, I'm going to get to it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So it actually started with us putting notes
down and we put it as notes forthe meeting.
And we did that in the house,like on a random night, of
things that we wanted to makesure we touched on in the goal
meeting.
Because it's kind of like youwant to plan before you get
there, cause you have a lot ofideas, things that may be
running through your head and itis a lot to recap the previous
(05:51):
year, plan that year then.
Oh yeah, I remember this.
So we kind of pre-planned forthe meeting, basically, and we
started writing notes for themeeting and, um, setting it up,
if you will like, how we wantedit to look.
We did some of that preliminarystuff so that when we actually
sat down for the meeting it waslike, boom, like these are were
a bit more consistent and didn'tneed the eight hours in our
(06:13):
office.
Yeah, we had an agenda goinginto it, some things we started
on, but mostly the heavy, heavywork, I would say, got done in
Mexico.
So it was a two part meeting,which is the first time ever as
well.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, so having that preliminary agenda and I'll go
through this so that they knowat least the framework of I'll
just go through the five pillars.
So the five pillars of everygoal setting, just even meetings
that we have with our family,is five pillars.
Five pillars which is numberone, family, number two, faith,
(06:46):
number three, finances, numberfour, fitness and number five is
freedom.
Yeah, five pillars are, and Igot this from a guy named jamal
king.
He talks about the same thing.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I think we had three pillars at one point yeah, but
just to break down a bit further, like you say, family is like
well, what falls on the family?
Somebody may not know um, and,for example, some things that
fall on the family, maybe liketravel, like where, what's our
travels this year?
What do we plan to do or hopeto do?
Maybe we don't make all of themum, also, right now we're in a
phase of looking for morecaretakers for our children, so,
(07:17):
like setting the goals of whenwe're gonna find a nanny or a
babysitter or things like that.
Those are some of the um, tryingto see if there's any more but,
those are some of the thingsthat would fall under family for
us yeah, just to help you out.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
That could be you want to find a man, or you want
to find a wife, or you want tostart dating more going out more
.
Those are things that you couldput like.
Date nights is something thatwe put would put on the family.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So those are a few um examples of that any big family
events we have that we want toplan.
So all of that goes on.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Next one would be faith.
So going back to church, thingslike that, finances, budgeting,
paying off debt, whatever youguys want to do, fitness, that
could be.
I want to start working outmore.
What does that system look likefor you?
And then freedom is what's thefreedom one?
Freedom could also be traveling, too.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
It could be, but we also sometimes put our
businesses under freedom,because our businesses allow us
freedom.
So it may not exactly fallunder that.
If somebody was to ask butthat's how we do it, because you
know, but each of them we breakit down further, so it's not
just like so okay, I want to geta nanny.
Like by when?
Like when are you going to dothis by?
Is it by the end of quarter one?
(08:25):
How do you plan to do it?
Same thing with losing weight.
Like I put a hefty goal oflosing 20 pounds for the year
and so I broke it down of everyquarter.
How much pounds do I want tolose?
I think I put like the most inthe first quarter, because after
that summer comes in theholidays.
So like that's how I broke itdown.
So just making sure you'rebreaking it down why 20 pounds,
though?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
how'd you come up with that?
We never.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
We didn't speak about that how did I come up with 20?
That brings me back to kind ofwhere I usually am status quo.
Right now I'm about 20 poundsabove where I usually am.
Wow, okay, yeah, I know I don'tknow how I got here.
Yeah, so I do know how I gothere, but still so preliminary
notes before the meeting.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
So, like I said, we had those five pillars.
We would just jot some notesdown so we know what we're
walking to the meeting with.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So another big thing is just making sure you recap
the previous year.
That was a big thing for usbecause we felt like last year
wasn't, as let's say, big,because you know you had you set
these goals and if you don'thit all of them, you're like, oh
, I didn't do so.
Well, um, but being able andthat's why it's big to write it
down, being able to actually goback and check back like, oh wow
(09:32):
, we actually did do this, weactually did do these things, uh
, that was helpful.
And even looking back toprevious years, because we've
been doing this since 2021 maybe, I'm not sure, I think 2021 or
2020, we've been doing thesespecific goals, writing it down,
these exact things.
So going back to see exactlywhat we've done, exactly how far
we've come, can also be, Iwould say, a big booster, a
(09:56):
boost to your confidence.
That is not also bad, even ifit doesn't feel like I didn't
hit this hefty goal.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, we've been documenting our progress in
terms of goals since 2020.
I actually went back to myphone and actually some of it's
in 2019.
But one of the things we did oneof the things we started the
meeting with was going back.
Did we do the photos or did wedo the trust first?
The trust was before too Okay.
So the first part of themeeting we sat down, like you
(10:24):
said we did.
We had the agenda items of whatwe would talk about, or at
least different pieces of it,but we knew the general is like
at the top of year, we got to doour trust.
We got to do our will um, andyou want to go through that yeah
.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
So we do have a trust and will in place, and if you
don't, you absolutely shouldespecially have a wife or kids.
Yeah, I know, some people arelike, well, I'm single, it
doesn't matter.
I think it does, especially ifyou have a wife or kids.
Yeah, I know some people arelike, well, I'm single, it
doesn't matter.
I think it does, especially ifyou have family around.
But, even more important, ifyou are a spouse and have
children, you should have atrust and a will.
It's really simple to do.
A lot of companies can help you, assist it.
You don't have to come up withit on your own.
(10:57):
So that was something we setthat in place.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I think We'll put a link in the show notes with the
company that we used, will we,because am I getting a kickback
for that?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
If it helps people, why not?
You are money hungry sometimes,sometimes, but I'm not just
promoting anything.
Maybe there's another company Icould promote.
Anyway, what?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
was I saying.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Estate planning.
So we put it in place aroundwhen we had Alani.
So back in 2022, I want to say,is when we officially got
everything done.
But, as they say, you should beupdating it yearly and we
didn't do it as frequently sobefore the year and then like we
need to update it.
As you know, we've had twomajor life changes in that we
had another child and the lossof a family member.
(11:37):
But the way that you set it upcan kind of cover those things.
You don't have to change thingsdrastically but but just going
through it, making sure that itstill makes sense, making sure
that people's names that you putdown make sense of taking care
of your children, taking overthe will.
Um, some spots we saw that wereempty.
Like they have information inthere where you can put your
(11:57):
what is this like?
Social media and email, allthat type of password and that
type of stuff so people can getinto it.
Some of that was empty for us.
Deciding what happens when youpass.
All of those things are inthere and I think it's important
just to review it yearly, andthat's something that we were.
I put it on the calendar.
I'm like, no, we're going tosit down and do this, and we got
(12:18):
that done first before anything.
That was about like two, threeweeks before we started doing
any of that.
So start there If you have one,if you don't have one.
It will be a bit of a process,but you need to start it now.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, and I want to talk to the single people for a
second too, because when myyoungest brother passed away
last year and we're goingthrough and we're discovering
things like he had outstandingparking tickets and he had this
over here and this over herenothing bad that you can't find,
but it just creates more of aheadache when you have to dive
(12:50):
through certain things.
So I know at some point wethink about.
You know we're too young tothink about these things.
You know he was barely touching30, so I want you guys to think
about those things.
I'm an especially important.
This is the second time we'regoing through this.
My best friend passed and hehad this stuff a little bit more
in order, but it still wasdifficult for his mom to find
those things.
So if you got some time, writedown some things.
(13:11):
Right, you know?
Share your phone password withsomebody.
Share your email password.
Share your bank accountpasswords which?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
which are beneficiaries, on your bank on
your account, right we?
Went.
I think we had an episode onthis we did things we learned
from his funeral, and thebanking house was one of them
that if somebody is not on therethen no one can access it.
I don't know, do we have awhole episode on that?
We did.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay, we might we try to link that.
I need some show notes for theshow notes right now, so we'll
try to link that episode.
But that Started it by goingthrough our trust, our will, we
update the documents, make surelittle girl was on it,
medium-sized girl was on it andeverything was good.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Medium-sized girl, that's a lot Amaya.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You're the big girl, little girl.
What?
You're the big girl, medium,little.
Okay, all right.
So the next exercise we did wasthis one, right, yeah, so we
are you talking?
Ooh, yep, so we are you talking?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Oh, yep, this one here, yeah the game.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So I was listening to a podcast.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
No, you didn't get the game for a podcast, get it
from my Instagram.
I sent you.
But he's funny, he did the samething he did.
Yeah, okay, good Maybe he sawthe Instagram, but go ahead.
So you told you about the game,got it?
That's that.
Yeah, we send each otherInstagrams all the time.
Reels sorry, that's the wordI'm looking for.
This couple said they sat downand they went through their
phone every single month and satdown with a timer and wrote
(14:30):
down everything that kind ofstood out during that month and
it was separate, like Janoka hadher own, tony had his own and
three-minute timer and you wentthrough January, through
December, things that stood outfor you as you looked through
your camera.
No, the camera was supposed tohelp you because you could just
do it based off of the thingsyou remember in your head, but
if you're like me, I don'tremember anything.
(14:51):
So the camera, I needed myphone for every single thing to
remember what we did each month.
And it was a fun exercisebecause we were like, oh, I
didn't even remember that.
Or yeah, I had done the sameexact thing for that month.
It was just something differentthat wasn't.
Yeah, I had down the same exactthing for that month.
It was just something differentthat wasn't, and that's that
wasn't ever necessarily justfocusing on goals, but still a
(15:12):
way to reflect back, uh,reflection on the previous good,
bad things that happened and itwas just funny just going
through it as well, like thingsthat you remembered versus me
and like, oh, I didn't remember,we went there what was, what
was the most shocking thingabout going through that meeting
, that part of the meeting,because I had a good time doing
it.
You were like.
You were like oh, I don't knowhow you remember anything that's
not in your camera.
Oh, yeah, and I'm like I don'tknow that just I just remembered
(15:34):
that, oh, maybe like travel orI can't remember.
There were some things thatyou're like.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I don't know how you even remember so I'll take a lot
of photos, photos.
So when we did this exercise,you set the three-minute timer
and everyone goes, and even ifyou're single, you don't got
someone to go through.
You should do this as well,just so you can kind of reflect
on the year that you had.
So I think Miles was in mynotes or something.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
No, we shared it.
We shared it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I don't see it, but you go through your notes and I
think everyone should do thisexercise just to see how the
year was.
And the reason that thisactually made sense is because
you might have thought you hadan absolutely terrible shitty,
you know, last year.
And the funny thing is, I askedJanoko a question.
You remember the question Iasked you?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
No, what was it?
Oh you asked me do you rememberwhat we did in 2023?
And I started listing somethings and I mentioned South
Africa.
You was like I didn me.
Do you remember what we did in2023?
And I started listing somethings and I mentioned south
africa.
He was like I didn't evenremember that yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So going back to not 2024 we started the meeting in
2024.
I said what did we do last year?
And that shows you and sheremembered like you normally
remember the biggest highlightand the biggest low.
So it would probably be a death, a promotion or a big trip you
made, and that's the whole yearsummarized for most people.
So when you're going back andyou're doing this exercise, you
(16:49):
could actually say like, oh yeah, most of the time we think
about 2024.
And it's funny because a lot ofpeople said 2024 was one of
their worst years that they'veever had, and I'll probably say
we had a pretty bad 2024 too,absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I don't want to say bad.
It was highs and lows Difficult.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It was pretty difficult 2024.
And it's funny that's like thetheme of the year right now
having a bad 2024.
But what was I saying?
Oh yeah, so you set all thesegoals and plans and then, a year
later or two years after, youdon't even remember what they
were.
So the highs and the lows areabsolutely gone for the entire
(17:26):
year.
So let's say, 2024 was a badyear for you.
You go back in 2025, 2026, andactually what happened in 2024?
You're going to remember adeath, you're going to remember
a birth and you're going toremember one more thing, which
may be a travel, it might beDisney for us.
So those are going to be thehighlights of the entire 24,
whether it was good, bad ordifferent.
One year more, one year later,you won't even remember what
(17:47):
happened for that entire year.
So the point of me telling youthat was to don't put so much
pressure on you having a good ora bad year.
It's just another year in thebooks and let's just push
forward and make sure you get itdone.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
But yeah, so we wrote out those things and it was fun
just to see what we remember,what we didn't remember.
You didn't have nothing forthis month.
What happened in august for you?
Oh no, you're here.
So some months it was waylonger than the other person had
way longer than the otherperson.
But yeah, it's just a goodexercise.
We thought it was fun too.
You can still do it now.
Go ahead and do it.
Um, we're not the inventors ofit, but just letting you know.
(18:19):
So after we did the trust andwill, after we did the exercise
that we just spoke about withthe pitchers, after we did a
preliminary meeting to prepare,for the meeting.
before the meeting before themeeting we also something we
also did that we haven't done ina while was update our net
worth.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
That was something you use, a system or yeah, I use
personal finance for that, sothat's just an app and you
should be going through thatpretty frequently.
We had a spreadsheet becausepersonal finance stopped
accepting updates after a whilefor some reason, so glitchy.
Yeah, it was like very, it'scalled empower, now um, but they
weren't accepting certainaccounts.
I'll just stop using it, butanyway, we went through and
(18:59):
updated our network happy to saythat we're still above a
millionaire status, so but yeah,you should download the app,
empower, go through and justupdate your bank accounts.
I net worth happy to say thatwe're still above a millionaire
status, so but yeah, you shoulddownload the app and power, go
through and just update yourbank accounts, your assets, your
debits, things like that.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Everything's 401ks, um, I don't know, cars, jewelry,
everything that's considered anasset can can go on there, um,
so we did all that.
And then we got to Mexico.
So we did all that and then wegot to Mexico.
So we were going to Mexico.
It was a friends slash familytrip going to Mexico and we
decided to fly in a day earlierBecause one we realized before
(19:32):
the chaos Because you know, withfriends things are hectic but
also we realized the last timewe did any type of trip without
the kids was June 2023.
Was the last time we did a tripwithout the kids and even that
was a friend's group to go seeUsher in Vegas.
So we're like let's just go aday by ourselves, let's finish
(19:57):
our goal setting meeting andkind of go like that and that
was a great idea.
Actually, just traveling inJanuary was just.
I think you should kick offyour year that way if you can.
Every time it just feels like,feels good.
I don't know what to say aboutit, just feels like I should be
here every year january on abeach or somewhere, not in my
regular setting oh yeah, andwhat that?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
what that allows you to do is, especially when you
get out somewhere warm and youget an ocean, or if you like
mountains and you want to seethe mountains, or if you're in a
city whatever you enjoy doingwhat you like to see.
It allows you to I don't knowhow to describe it it allows you
to like see the bigger pictureof life, if that makes sense.
So normally you're sitting, wedo our.
You might do it at home, youmight do it in the office with
(20:40):
your goals, or you might do itin a restaurant, but being out
and traveling and being in a newcountry gives you another oomph
.
You're like oh, wow.
Now your goals are getting alittle bit bigger, your energy
is higher and you're not sittingaround in a stuffy conference
room like we did last year orthe year before last.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So it just felt good.
You have the sun is shining inwater, you hear the music
outside, and that's where we didthe bulk of the work that was
from.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I think we started at like 12, 11, 30.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That was about four, four and a half hours of goal
setting.
You're probably like what thehell are you guys talking about
Now?
We may have more things thanthe typical person because we
have multiple businesses, wehave multiple kids, so it may
not be the same for you.
It's not like you need a time,a specific time, but we're
combing through everything thatwe kind of prepared for, making
sure we close out 2024 as muchas we can and really preparing
(21:38):
for the new year, and differentyears look differently, right,
and I think it's important aswell when you're goal setting,
like sometimes there are certaingoals, like I just stopped
writing reading a book a quarter, or reading a book.
Oh yeah, that was superimportant because I have like a
list of probably 30 books in mynotes that I want to read, that
I've seen people rave about, andI don't read, I don't read.
(21:59):
So it's kind of like stopputting it there, like if you
end up doing it, great, but Istopped putting like that's just
an example of something that II think that's the only thing
that I stopped putting down,cause I'm like I'm'm not, I'm
not reaching that goal.
So that's important as well, toreflect on what exactly is be
realistic with yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Essentially, be realistic with yourself so
reflecting yeah, reflecting onyour goals.
It doesn't have to.
It doesn't have to wait untilthe end of the year.
So if you're going through itand you're seeing every single
month, this is not even gettingnudged, it needs to be removed
because it's not that importantto you.
Yeah, so for, like me, I waslike I'm gonna make sure I'm
reading a book a quarter.
(22:38):
So I got my book first book ofthe year.
Yeah, and you read so danmartell uh, buy back your time.
I don't know if you guys couldsee that.
There do we have another bookby him.
I feel like I heard that namebefore um no, I might have
bought the same book twice.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Okay, no.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
But anyway, that's the first Ann.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Sullivan is who now Ann Sullivan?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, and the reason I wanted to.
That's just one of the goals,but the system behind it is like
reading five pages a day, likewaking up, reading five pages a
day.
That's literally the system, sothat I know I can read a book a
quarter.
And the reason I'm reading thatbook is because that's one of
the things that I realized thispast year is that I'm still very
much ingrained in thebusinesses with the baby and the
(23:17):
death.
It was like those were just twohits back to back.
So I want to be able to buyback our time and get unstuck,
reclaim your freedom and buildyour empire.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So and just along those lines of setting these
goals and reviewing it.
I think it's important to noteso last year we had recognized,
when we were doing our 2024goals, we recognized in 2023.
We didn't really look back atit um visit our goals as
frequently as we once did.
So what we did was put on thecalendar monthly family meetings
(23:45):
, like put an alert, you know,every um one friday of the month
.
We put that on there and thenwe said we'll do quarterly
meetings as well.
We did one yep so we didn't.
We weren't consistent with this.
So this year now we're likeokay, we have these goals, we're
spending so much time on it,how can we make sure that it's
important to us?
So for like, at least for me weset this.
(24:07):
I don't have the date, but Ithink we did the goals exactly
on january 9th, like we finishedit.
Since then I probably reviewedit at least five times.
Since then I've just beenlooking back at it to remember.
Like, what do we say?
What do we say?
Most of the goals that we've setis quarterly based, but in
order for you to get there, youhave to know what you're working
towards.
You have to you know.
So I think, reviewing it more,we also put the monthly meeting
(24:31):
at the end of the month becauseI think we had just picked a
Friday.
So now it's at the end of themonth and we really are just
going to have to be consistentabout making sure we get it done
.
Does that mean we have ababysitter here that's going to
be here for us for the hour, twohours for us to review?
But we are being veryintentional.
Like you said, you set thesegoals.
You don't remember it beingvery intentional to make sure
(24:51):
that we are at least reviewingit.
It may not hit everything, butat least reviewing it on a
frequent basis.
It doesn't have to be asfrequent as me, but I forget
things.
So I am looking after thismeeting, I'm probably going to
look at it again and to makesure.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, one of the things we going back to 2019
when we had these.
I think we were both we had, weboth worked in the same office.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So we had a little whiteboard behind us and you saw
the goals every single day.
And the same office was oursecond bedroom, by the way.
Yeah, the second bedroom.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
So she worked in there, I worked in there.
It was like back to back, right.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Literally, you were behind me.
Yeah, I was behind you.
We had the goals on the board.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
But now, the only bedroom we're both in at the
same time is our bedroom.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, the living room .
Speaker 2 (25:32):
you can't really put your goals in the living room.
Yeah, like I want to make athousand million finity dollars
in this living room Just makesit kind of weird, but the office
was like the place we both wereat this space here.
You're kind of in it sometimes,but 90% of the time I'm in here
.
So I think us having a.
But also, we bought, we bought.
(25:52):
We bought this thing called Big.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Ass Calendar.
You might have seen it.
If you're on TikTok, you'vedefinitely seen it.
This is from who is it from?
Jesse, I don't remember hislast name, but he's the husband.
That's what I'm.
I'm sure he's retired of beingcalled this, but he is the
husband of the lady.
What's her name?
Because I follow her thatinvented Spanx.
I can't remember if I don'tremember her name, but I do
follow her.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yes, amazing story.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And his name is Jesse , something I don't.
His name is Jesse.
Let's go with that ItzlerItzler.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
It doesn't say his last name often, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
It's literally a big ass calendar and it plans out
the entire year man superexcited to get this started.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Maybe we'll tag them.
I don't know.
We got a lot of people to tag.
Oh now, we got a lot of peopleto tag.
Literally.
If you guys are watching thison YouTube, I'm opening up the
calendar.
Oh, this is cool and maybe I'lldo a YouTube live while we're
starting it.
There's a whole YouTube on here.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I'm covering up all the cameras, what the hell.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well, he's covering himself himself, but it
literally is the entire year 365you plan out your entire year
on this thing.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, so you plan out your year.
You got markers, you got allthis stuff they make it fun
stickies and everything fordifferent colors, for different
things, like a color for kidsactivities, a color for travel,
like.
So we've never we planned outour year in this way that we
wrote it down, bulleted, butnever on a calendar.
So this will be something newfor us to see.
Do we like it?
Do we love it?
Are we sticking to it?
Are we not?
Is it something new?
(27:19):
We'll see.
That's something else thatwe're kind of putting into um
our goals.
We're big about our goals thisyear.
I mean, we've always been bigabout it, but I think even more
now, just being more intentionalabout it is something that
we're we're making sure that wetackle essentially, and I think
the last thing we could go intois the word of the year so we
had started doing.
(27:40):
I don't know where did I getthat from somewhere?
Did I just say we need to wearthat one time?
I just said we need a word ofthe year and I've seen people
actually talk about it recently,but we've had the only one I
can remember right now is likeelevate, but we're like what is
going to be our word of the year, the word.
I think it sets the tone of thetheme of your year, um, and
most of the things will fall onunder it.
(28:01):
So what's our word of the year?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
so how we came to the word of the year was we looked
at our goals and then I put intochat gbt, that's it.
We're trying to find a word ofthe year that describes our
goals and I also put somesetbacks.
And also you can't just put itin the chat GBT, and say, hey,
spit this out for me.
So it's going to give you abunch of words, but we went
based off of where we felt wewere last year, where we want to
(28:25):
be this year, and the word wechose of this year was
breakthrough.
So we know there's some thingswe want to do, like Janoka's
going to get into her contentbag.
Like breaking through theceiling of us doing everything
together.
We'll still have the podcast,right?
I'm going to be doing, probablydoing some solo episodes by
myself.
Janoka might decide to do herepisodes by herself.
She's on TikTok.
(28:45):
If they don't ban it, if youguys watching this, if you still
got TikTok, they ain't banningit yet I put up a vlog.
So those are just a few of thethings.
We might also go into someother, like start educating
people on social media andcontent creation and stuff like
that.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Don't keep a glass ceiling.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah.
So that's like breaking throughwhere we've been and figuring
out what that next step is.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, so that's our word of the year, but some of
what we've been speaking aboutwe spoke about just changing
your setting to do your goalsetting, pre-planning for that.
Don't just sit down and say,all right, let's do it, because
you will be there for hours,trust and will, if you do not
have one, setting something up.
(29:26):
I think you also spoke aboutnet worth.
If that's something that youwant to do, you mentioned the
app Empower or the websiteEmpower, and that's what you can
do.
The big-ass calendar we can'treally speak on it yet, but
we're going to try it.
So maybe there'll be episodesspecifically on how that went
and how it goes, and I think,coming up with a word whatever
your word of the year is goingto be and put it somewhere and
tell people, mention it.
(29:47):
Oh, also sorry, making sure youreview your goals.
You put it in place on Januaryor whatever.
Make sure you review itfrequently so that you're
hitting these goals and makingsure they're still attainable.
You know, if an injury happensand maybe the 20 pounds ain't
for me this year, like.
So making sure you're updatingall of those things.
Seeing the needle move ishelpful as well.
(30:08):
So, yeah, that is, that is ourgoal setting of 2025.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
So setting the systems that allow you to hit
the goal.
So a system is a predictableflowing outcome and if something
changes in that system, the endresult is going to change.
A goal is just a cog in thatsystem.
So you have a bunch of systemsin it, you have a bunch of
systems in the uh you're messingme up here, sorry, I said one
(30:32):
thing.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
You have a bunch of systems.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
At the end of this system, it creates a goal for
you.
So if the goal is to get 20pounds, you have a system where
you're doing this, this, this,this and this and the goal is 20
pounds.
If something changes in thatsystem, the goal is going to
change and that's totally fine.
You got to be okay with that.
You got to review the systemstime and time again throughout
the year.
Um, so hopefully you guys havean amazing 2025.
We are a couple weeks into theyear, but we are still here for
(30:54):
you guys.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
So oh, we didn't, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
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And we are still here, guys, sowe'll keep this thing going.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yes, we will See you next week Maybe have a good one.
What's going on, guys ?
Welcome to another episode ofthe more than a side hustle
podcast, where we helpnine-to-fives create more impact
, income and influence outsidetheir jobs.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And my name is Anthony and I'm Janoka and we
are happy to be back.
I'm laughing because the lasttime we did episodes we said
we're back.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I don't know how long ago that was, and we really
weren't back.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Are we back this time ?
We're back this time.
This time we're speaking aboutgoal setting.
Right, we're speaking about notnecessarily just our goals, but
how to goal set and what we didand maybe this can help you as
well, no matter when you listento this and we'll speak about
the goals of the podcast as well.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
We'll figure out by the end of this podcast if we
are back or we just kind of sitout back, or we're just doing
things.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But this time you know that we weren't as
consistent, because the lastreview let's tell people who we
are.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So if you are, if you are a first-time listener, if
you guys don't know, we are twotechnically former
nine-to-fivers.
We built multiple seven-figurebusinesses outside of our jobs
and now we help others do thesame, the same um, whether it's
a in person, whether it's adigital, physical product.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So we continue to share our story and share our
impact as you said that thiswould be my first year as, my
first full year as anine-to-fiver if I last the full
year, what do you mean?
I mean as a, not anine-to-fiver, excuse me my
first full year as anentrepreneur, as a full-time
entrepreneur, as a full-timeentrepreneur, because, um,
previous episode, go back, thelast one we said we spoke about,
(01:36):
uh, me losing my job in august.
So this will be the first fullyear of full-time
entrepreneurship for me.
You are going on to your fourthyear of doing it, which sounds
absolutely nuts.
Exactly so anyways, before Ithink we should speak about, do
we want to speak about the goalsof the podcast before we jump
in or just intertwine it in?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
No, we're intertwining it in because, well
, happy new year everyone.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Always the question when do you stop saying it?
When do you stop saying?
When do you stop?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I don't know, somebody's like the second week
and then also, if you listen tothis, it might be the third or
fourth week of january,depending when we release this.
Technically national quittersday has passed.
So if you had a goal or you hadsomething you want to
accomplish and you're no longerdoing it, most people stop doing
it by the second week, which iswhere you also realize the
second week of the gym kind ofcalms down.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
People stop going to the gym.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
They're like you know what.
So by the second week if you'restill here by the second week
of January, that means you madeit past most people's goals of
the year.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
But so goal setting is something that's very
important to us.
If you've been around for a fewyears, it tends to look the
same.
We first started goal settingwith um going to somewhere
special.
So like usually we're doing asteakhouse, we're bringing a
computer, ipad, all of thethings to plan out our night, to
plan our year.
Sorry, and the reason we didthat was to get away from the
(03:00):
noise.
At that time, when we started,the noise was just our dog blue.
We just wanted a differentsetting.
But, as you know, we have twokids now and we still that's how
we did it the previous yearsgoing to our fancy restaurant,
planning it out, recapping ourprevious year and then planning
the next year.
Last year was a littledifferent.
It was a bit more stiffy.
(03:20):
What did you decide to do?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
so.
And when she said, when shesays, get away from the noise,
it's just change of environment,and I think that's super
important.
So I changed the environmentagain and I booked a conference
room.
And the way I would.
I booked a conference room, wehad a whiteboard, we bought our
laptops, we had a screen, wewere able to display what the
notes were.
So it was more of a formalizedmeeting, what the notes were.
So it was more of a formalizedmeeting.
(03:45):
And between the steakhouse andbetween the formalized office
setting, what do you feel likeyou enjoyed more out of those
two?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, the office, see the office setting.
We were in there for eighthours.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
The steakhouse.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You can't do that because obviously it's a
restaurant, so you can't bethere that long and so maybe
sometimes you don't even needthat long.
But because we had the time, weused it, we used the time.
It's not like it was dead space, but we actually did use this.
I don't know which one I likedmore than the other, it was just
different.
It just was different.
Yeah, I don't know at thispoint of the way that goals are
(04:19):
growing and different things arechanging, I don't know that a
restaurant is the setting for useither, though I do feel we
need a bit more time, a bit morespace, a bit more.
You know, it's a little weirdhaving a laptop at a steakhouse
asking for their Wi-Fi.
It is a little bizarre.
You got your laptop, you gotyour iPad, you got your notepad.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
We want you guys to think about just changing your
environment, if you haven'talready.
I was actually listening to apodcast and they were like
listen, I'm not really focusedon the new year until the second
month of the year.
It's like the clock strikes 12and it's a new month, it's a new
year, but that doesn't mean youhave to get up and do
everything then, and that'ssomething that we've always
(04:59):
tried to be intentional about.
It's like by the time the newyear comes, we want to have our
goals and everything inalignment.
If you listen to the lastpodcast, it was a solo episode I
did and I talked about, insteadof creating goals, create
systems.
We'll talk about some of thosesystems as well, but that's one
of the things we wanted to getaway from is just that um,
stuffy environment.
But then also we knew that wecouldn't just go to the
steakhouse, so we did change itup again this year and we'll
(05:19):
talk about the format.
So how do we change it up againthis year?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So, this year we went to Mexico it didn't start there
.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, I'm going to get to it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So it actually started with us putting notes
down and we put it as notes forthe meeting.
And we did that in the house,like on a random night, of
things that we wanted to makesure we touched on in the goal
meeting.
Because it's kind of like youwant to plan before you get
there, cause you have a lot ofideas, things that may be
running through your head and itis a lot to recap the previous
(05:51):
year, plan that year then.
Oh yeah, I remember this.
So we kind of pre-planned forthe meeting, basically, and we
started writing notes for themeeting and, um, setting it up,
if you will like, how we wantedit to look.
We did some of that preliminarystuff so that when we actually
sat down for the meeting it waslike, boom, like these are were
a bit more consistent and didn'tneed the eight hours in our
(06:13):
office.
Yeah, we had an agenda goinginto it, some things we started
on, but mostly the heavy, heavywork, I would say, got done in
Mexico.
So it was a two part meeting,which is the first time ever as
well.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, so having that preliminary agenda and I'll go
through this so that they knowat least the framework of I'll
just go through the five pillars.
So the five pillars of everygoal setting, just even meetings
that we have with our family,is five pillars.
Five pillars which is numberone, family, number two, faith,
(06:46):
number three, finances, numberfour, fitness and number five is
freedom.
Yeah, five pillars are, and Igot this from a guy named jamal
king.
He talks about the same thing.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I think we had three pillars at one point yeah, but
just to break down a bit further, like you say, family is like
well, what falls on the family?
Somebody may not know um, and,for example, some things that
fall on the family, maybe liketravel, like where, what's our
travels this year?
What do we plan to do or hopeto do?
Maybe we don't make all of themum, also, right now we're in a
phase of looking for morecaretakers for our children, so,
(07:17):
like setting the goals of whenwe're gonna find a nanny or a
babysitter or things like that.
Those are some of the um, tryingto see if there's any more but,
those are some of the thingsthat would fall under family for
us yeah, just to help you out.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
That could be you want to find a man, or you want
to find a wife, or you want tostart dating more going out more
.
Those are things that you couldput like.
Date nights is something thatwe put would put on the family.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So those are a few um examples of that any big family
events we have that we want toplan.
So all of that goes on.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Next one would be faith.
So going back to church, thingslike that, finances, budgeting,
paying off debt, whatever youguys want to do, fitness, that
could be.
I want to start working outmore.
What does that system look likefor you?
And then freedom is what's thefreedom one?
Freedom could also be traveling, too.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
It could be, but we also sometimes put our
businesses under freedom,because our businesses allow us
freedom.
So it may not exactly fallunder that.
If somebody was to ask butthat's how we do it, because you
know, but each of them we breakit down further, so it's not
just like so okay, I want to geta nanny.
Like by when?
Like when are you going to dothis by?
Is it by the end of quarter one?
(08:25):
How do you plan to do it?
Same thing with losing weight.
Like I put a hefty goal oflosing 20 pounds for the year
and so I broke it down of everyquarter.
How much pounds do I want tolose?
I think I put like the most inthe first quarter, because after
that summer comes in theholidays.
So like that's how I broke itdown.
So just making sure you'rebreaking it down why 20 pounds,
though?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
how'd you come up with that?
We never.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
We didn't speak about that how did I come up with 20?
That brings me back to kind ofwhere I usually am status quo.
Right now I'm about 20 poundsabove where I usually am.
Wow, okay, yeah, I know I don'tknow how I got here.
Yeah, so I do know how I gothere, but still so preliminary
notes before the meeting.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
So, like I said, we had those five pillars.
We would just jot some notesdown so we know what we're
walking to the meeting with.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So another big thing is just making sure you recap
the previous year.
That was a big thing for usbecause we felt like last year
wasn't, as let's say, big,because you know you had you set
these goals and if you don'thit all of them, you're like, oh
, I didn't do so.
Well, um, but being able andthat's why it's big to write it
down, being able to actually goback and check back like, oh wow
(09:32):
, we actually did do this, weactually did do these things, uh
, that was helpful.
And even looking back toprevious years, because we've
been doing this since 2021 maybe, I'm not sure, I think 2021 or
2020, we've been doing thesespecific goals, writing it down,
these exact things.
So going back to see exactlywhat we've done, exactly how far
we've come, can also be, Iwould say, a big booster, a
(09:56):
boost to your confidence.
That is not also bad, even ifit doesn't feel like I didn't
hit this hefty goal.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, we've been documenting our progress in
terms of goals since 2020.
I actually went back to myphone and actually some of it's
in 2019.
But one of the things we did oneof the things we started the
meeting with was going back.
Did we do the photos or did wedo the trust first?
The trust was before too Okay.
So the first part of themeeting we sat down, like you
(10:24):
said we did.
We had the agenda items of whatwe would talk about, or at
least different pieces of it,but we knew the general is like
at the top of year, we got to doour trust.
We got to do our will um, andyou want to go through that yeah
.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
So we do have a trust and will in place, and if you
don't, you absolutely shouldespecially have a wife or kids.
Yeah, I know, some people arelike, well, I'm single, it
doesn't matter.
I think it does, especially ifyou have a wife or kids.
Yeah, I know some people arelike, well, I'm single, it
doesn't matter.
I think it does, especially ifyou have family around.
But, even more important, ifyou are a spouse and have
children, you should have atrust and a will.
It's really simple to do.
A lot of companies can help you, assist it.
You don't have to come up withit on your own.
(10:57):
So that was something we setthat in place.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I think We'll put a link in the show notes with the
company that we used, will we,because am I getting a kickback
for that?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
If it helps people, why not?
You are money hungry sometimes,sometimes, but I'm not just
promoting anything.
Maybe there's another company Icould promote.
Anyway, what?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
was I saying.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Estate planning.
So we put it in place aroundwhen we had Alani.
So back in 2022, I want to say,is when we officially got
everything done.
But, as they say, you should beupdating it yearly and we
didn't do it as frequently sobefore the year and then like we
need to update it.
As you know, we've had twomajor life changes in that we
had another child and the lossof a family member.
(11:37):
But the way that you set it upcan kind of cover those things.
You don't have to change thingsdrastically but but just going
through it, making sure that itstill makes sense, making sure
that people's names that you putdown make sense of taking care
of your children, taking overthe will.
Um, some spots we saw that wereempty.
Like they have information inthere where you can put your
(11:57):
what is this like?
Social media and email, allthat type of password and that
type of stuff so people can getinto it.
Some of that was empty for us.
Deciding what happens when youpass.
All of those things are inthere and I think it's important
just to review it yearly, andthat's something that we were.
I put it on the calendar.
I'm like, no, we're going tosit down and do this, and we got
(12:18):
that done first before anything.
That was about like two, threeweeks before we started doing
any of that.
So start there If you have one,if you don't have one.
It will be a bit of a process,but you need to start it now.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, and I want to talk to the single people for a
second too, because when myyoungest brother passed away
last year and we're goingthrough and we're discovering
things like he had outstandingparking tickets and he had this
over here and this over herenothing bad that you can't find,
but it just creates more of aheadache when you have to dive
(12:50):
through certain things.
So I know at some point wethink about.
You know we're too young tothink about these things.
You know he was barely touching30, so I want you guys to think
about those things.
I'm an especially important.
This is the second time we'regoing through this.
My best friend passed and hehad this stuff a little bit more
in order, but it still wasdifficult for his mom to find
those things.
So if you got some time, writedown some things.
(13:11):
Right, you know?
Share your phone password withsomebody.
Share your email password.
Share your bank accountpasswords which?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
which are beneficiaries, on your bank on
your account, right we?
Went.
I think we had an episode onthis we did things we learned
from his funeral, and thebanking house was one of them
that if somebody is not on therethen no one can access it.
I don't know, do we have awhole episode on that?
We did.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay, we might we try to link that.
I need some show notes for theshow notes right now, so we'll
try to link that episode.
But that Started it by goingthrough our trust, our will, we
update the documents, make surelittle girl was on it,
medium-sized girl was on it andeverything was good.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Medium-sized girl, that's a lot Amaya.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You're the big girl, little girl.
What?
You're the big girl, medium,little.
Okay, all right.
So the next exercise we did wasthis one, right, yeah, so we
are you talking?
Ooh, yep, so we are you talking?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Oh, yep, this one here, yeah the game.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So I was listening to a podcast.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
No, you didn't get the game for a podcast, get it
from my Instagram.
I sent you.
But he's funny, he did the samething he did.
Yeah, okay, good Maybe he sawthe Instagram, but go ahead.
So you told you about the game,got it?
That's that.
Yeah, we send each otherInstagrams all the time.
Reels sorry, that's the wordI'm looking for.
This couple said they sat downand they went through their
phone every single month and satdown with a timer and wrote
(14:30):
down everything that kind ofstood out during that month and
it was separate, like Janoka hadher own, tony had his own and
three-minute timer and you wentthrough January, through
December, things that stood outfor you as you looked through
your camera.
No, the camera was supposed tohelp you because you could just
do it based off of the thingsyou remember in your head, but
if you're like me, I don'tremember anything.
(14:51):
So the camera, I needed myphone for every single thing to
remember what we did each month.
And it was a fun exercisebecause we were like, oh, I
didn't even remember that.
Or yeah, I had done the sameexact thing for that month.
It was just something differentthat wasn't.
Yeah, I had down the same exactthing for that month.
It was just something differentthat wasn't, and that's that
wasn't ever necessarily justfocusing on goals, but still a
(15:12):
way to reflect back, uh,reflection on the previous good,
bad things that happened and itwas just funny just going
through it as well, like thingsthat you remembered versus me
and like, oh, I didn't remember,we went there what was, what
was the most shocking thingabout going through that meeting
, that part of the meeting,because I had a good time doing
it.
You were like.
You were like oh, I don't knowhow you remember anything that's
not in your camera.
Oh, yeah, and I'm like I don'tknow that just I just remembered
(15:34):
that, oh, maybe like travel orI can't remember.
There were some things thatyou're like.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I don't know how you even remember so I'll take a lot
of photos, photos.
So when we did this exercise,you set the three-minute timer
and everyone goes, and even ifyou're single, you don't got
someone to go through.
You should do this as well,just so you can kind of reflect
on the year that you had.
So I think Miles was in mynotes or something.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
No, we shared it.
We shared it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I don't see it, but you go through your notes and I
think everyone should do thisexercise just to see how the
year was.
And the reason that thisactually made sense is because
you might have thought you hadan absolutely terrible shitty,
you know, last year.
And the funny thing is, I askedJanoko a question.
You remember the question Iasked you?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
No, what was it?
Oh you asked me do you rememberwhat we did in 2023?
And I started listing somethings and I mentioned South
Africa.
You was like I didn me.
Do you remember what we did in2023?
And I started listing somethings and I mentioned south
africa.
He was like I didn't evenremember that yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So going back to not 2024 we started the meeting in
2024.
I said what did we do last year?
And that shows you and sheremembered like you normally
remember the biggest highlightand the biggest low.
So it would probably be a death, a promotion or a big trip you
made, and that's the whole yearsummarized for most people.
So when you're going back andyou're doing this exercise, you
(16:49):
could actually say like, oh yeah, most of the time we think
about 2024.
And it's funny because a lot ofpeople said 2024 was one of
their worst years that they'veever had, and I'll probably say
we had a pretty bad 2024 too,absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I don't want to say bad.
It was highs and lows Difficult.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It was pretty difficult 2024.
And it's funny that's like thetheme of the year right now
having a bad 2024.
But what was I saying?
Oh yeah, so you set all thesegoals and plans and then, a year
later or two years after, youdon't even remember what they
were.
So the highs and the lows areabsolutely gone for the entire
(17:26):
year.
So let's say, 2024 was a badyear for you.
You go back in 2025, 2026, andactually what happened in 2024?
You're going to remember adeath, you're going to remember
a birth and you're going toremember one more thing, which
may be a travel, it might beDisney for us.
So those are going to be thehighlights of the entire 24,
whether it was good, bad ordifferent.
One year more, one year later,you won't even remember what
(17:47):
happened for that entire year.
So the point of me telling youthat was to don't put so much
pressure on you having a good ora bad year.
It's just another year in thebooks and let's just push
forward and make sure you get itdone.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
But yeah, so we wrote out those things and it was fun
just to see what we remember,what we didn't remember.
You didn't have nothing forthis month.
What happened in august for you?
Oh no, you're here.
So some months it was waylonger than the other person had
way longer than the otherperson.
But yeah, it's just a goodexercise.
We thought it was fun too.
You can still do it now.
Go ahead and do it.
Um, we're not the inventors ofit, but just letting you know.
(18:19):
So after we did the trust andwill, after we did the exercise
that we just spoke about withthe pitchers, after we did a
preliminary meeting to prepare,for the meeting.
before the meeting before themeeting we also something we
also did that we haven't done ina while was update our net
worth.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
That was something you use, a system or yeah, I use
personal finance for that, sothat's just an app and you
should be going through thatpretty frequently.
We had a spreadsheet becausepersonal finance stopped
accepting updates after a whilefor some reason, so glitchy.
Yeah, it was like very, it'scalled empower, now um, but they
weren't accepting certainaccounts.
I'll just stop using it, butanyway, we went through and
(18:59):
updated our network happy to saythat we're still above a
millionaire status, so but yeah,you should download the app,
empower, go through and justupdate your bank accounts.
I net worth happy to say thatwe're still above a millionaire
status, so but yeah, you shoulddownload the app and power, go
through and just update yourbank accounts, your assets, your
debits, things like that.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Everything's 401ks, um, I don't know, cars, jewelry,
everything that's considered anasset can can go on there, um,
so we did all that.
And then we got to Mexico.
So we did all that and then wegot to Mexico.
So we were going to Mexico.
It was a friends slash familytrip going to Mexico and we
decided to fly in a day earlierBecause one we realized before
(19:32):
the chaos Because you know, withfriends things are hectic but
also we realized the last timewe did any type of trip without
the kids was June 2023.
Was the last time we did a tripwithout the kids and even that
was a friend's group to go seeUsher in Vegas.
So we're like let's just go aday by ourselves, let's finish
(19:57):
our goal setting meeting andkind of go like that and that
was a great idea.
Actually, just traveling inJanuary was just.
I think you should kick offyour year that way if you can.
Every time it just feels like,feels good.
I don't know what to say aboutit, just feels like I should be
here every year january on abeach or somewhere, not in my
regular setting oh yeah, andwhat that?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
what that allows you to do is, especially when you
get out somewhere warm and youget an ocean, or if you like
mountains and you want to seethe mountains, or if you're in a
city whatever you enjoy doingwhat you like to see.
It allows you to I don't knowhow to describe it it allows you
to like see the bigger pictureof life, if that makes sense.
So normally you're sitting, wedo our.
You might do it at home, youmight do it in the office with
(20:40):
your goals, or you might do itin a restaurant, but being out
and traveling and being in a newcountry gives you another oomph
.
You're like oh, wow.
Now your goals are getting alittle bit bigger, your energy
is higher and you're not sittingaround in a stuffy conference
room like we did last year orthe year before last.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So it just felt good.
You have the sun is shining inwater, you hear the music
outside, and that's where we didthe bulk of the work that was
from.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I think we started at like 12, 11, 30.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That was about four, four and a half hours of goal
setting.
You're probably like what thehell are you guys talking about
Now?
We may have more things thanthe typical person because we
have multiple businesses, wehave multiple kids, so it may
not be the same for you.
It's not like you need a time,a specific time, but we're
combing through everything thatwe kind of prepared for, making
sure we close out 2024 as muchas we can and really preparing
(21:38):
for the new year, and differentyears look differently, right,
and I think it's important aswell when you're goal setting,
like sometimes there are certaingoals, like I just stopped
writing reading a book a quarter, or reading a book.
Oh yeah, that was superimportant because I have like a
list of probably 30 books in mynotes that I want to read, that
I've seen people rave about, andI don't read, I don't read.
(21:59):
So it's kind of like stopputting it there, like if you
end up doing it, great, but Istopped putting like that's just
an example of something that II think that's the only thing
that I stopped putting down,cause I'm like I'm'm not, I'm
not reaching that goal.
So that's important as well, toreflect on what exactly is be
realistic with yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Essentially, be realistic with yourself so
reflecting yeah, reflecting onyour goals.
It doesn't have to.
It doesn't have to wait untilthe end of the year.
So if you're going through itand you're seeing every single
month, this is not even gettingnudged, it needs to be removed
because it's not that importantto you.
Yeah, so for, like me, I waslike I'm gonna make sure I'm
reading a book a quarter.
(22:38):
So I got my book first book ofthe year.
Yeah, and you read so danmartell uh, buy back your time.
I don't know if you guys couldsee that.
There do we have another bookby him.
I feel like I heard that namebefore um no, I might have
bought the same book twice.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Okay, no.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
But anyway, that's the first Ann.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Sullivan is who now Ann Sullivan?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, and the reason I wanted to.
That's just one of the goals,but the system behind it is like
reading five pages a day, likewaking up, reading five pages a
day.
That's literally the system, sothat I know I can read a book a
quarter.
And the reason I'm reading thatbook is because that's one of
the things that I realized thispast year is that I'm still very
much ingrained in thebusinesses with the baby and the
(23:17):
death.
It was like those were just twohits back to back.
So I want to be able to buyback our time and get unstuck,
reclaim your freedom and buildyour empire.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So and just along those lines of setting these
goals and reviewing it.
I think it's important to noteso last year we had recognized,
when we were doing our 2024goals, we recognized in 2023.
We didn't really look back atit um visit our goals as
frequently as we once did.
So what we did was put on thecalendar monthly family meetings
(23:45):
, like put an alert, you know,every um one friday of the month
.
We put that on there and thenwe said we'll do quarterly
meetings as well.
We did one yep so we didn't.
We weren't consistent with this.
So this year now we're likeokay, we have these goals, we're
spending so much time on it,how can we make sure that it's
important to us?
So for like, at least for me weset this.
(24:07):
I don't have the date, but Ithink we did the goals exactly
on january 9th, like we finishedit.
Since then I probably reviewedit at least five times.
Since then I've just beenlooking back at it to remember.
Like, what do we say?
What do we say?
Most of the goals that we've setis quarterly based, but in
order for you to get there, youhave to know what you're working
towards.
You have to you know.
So I think, reviewing it more,we also put the monthly meeting
(24:31):
at the end of the month becauseI think we had just picked a
Friday.
So now it's at the end of themonth and we really are just
going to have to be consistentabout making sure we get it done
.
Does that mean we have ababysitter here that's going to
be here for us for the hour, twohours for us to review?
But we are being veryintentional.
Like you said, you set thesegoals.
You don't remember it beingvery intentional to make sure
(24:51):
that we are at least reviewingit.
It may not hit everything, butat least reviewing it on a
frequent basis.
It doesn't have to be asfrequent as me, but I forget
things.
So I am looking after thismeeting, I'm probably going to
look at it again and to makesure.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, one of the things we going back to 2019
when we had these.
I think we were both we had, weboth worked in the same office.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So we had a little whiteboard behind us and you saw
the goals every single day.
And the same office was oursecond bedroom, by the way.
Yeah, the second bedroom.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
So she worked in there, I worked in there.
It was like back to back, right.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Literally, you were behind me.
Yeah, I was behind you.
We had the goals on the board.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
But now, the only bedroom we're both in at the
same time is our bedroom.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, the living room .
Speaker 2 (25:32):
you can't really put your goals in the living room.
Yeah, like I want to make athousand million finity dollars
in this living room Just makesit kind of weird, but the office
was like the place we both wereat this space here.
You're kind of in it sometimes,but 90% of the time I'm in here
.
So I think us having a.
But also, we bought, we bought.
(25:52):
We bought this thing called Big.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Ass Calendar.
You might have seen it.
If you're on TikTok, you'vedefinitely seen it.
This is from who is it from?
Jesse, I don't remember hislast name, but he's the husband.
That's what I'm.
I'm sure he's retired of beingcalled this, but he is the
husband of the lady.
What's her name?
Because I follow her thatinvented Spanx.
I can't remember if I don'tremember her name, but I do
follow her.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yes, amazing story.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And his name is Jesse , something I don't.
His name is Jesse.
Let's go with that ItzlerItzler.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
It doesn't say his last name often, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
It's literally a big ass calendar and it plans out
the entire year man superexcited to get this started.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Maybe we'll tag them.
I don't know.
We got a lot of people to tag.
Oh now, we got a lot of peopleto tag.
Literally.
If you guys are watching thison YouTube, I'm opening up the
calendar.
Oh, this is cool and maybe I'lldo a YouTube live while we're
starting it.
There's a whole YouTube on here.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I'm covering up all the cameras, what the hell.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well, he's covering himself himself, but it
literally is the entire year 365you plan out your entire year
on this thing.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, so you plan out your year.
You got markers, you got allthis stuff they make it fun
stickies and everything fordifferent colors, for different
things, like a color for kidsactivities, a color for travel,
like.
So we've never we planned outour year in this way that we
wrote it down, bulleted, butnever on a calendar.
So this will be something newfor us to see.
Do we like it?
Do we love it?
Are we sticking to it?
Are we not?
Is it something new?
(27:19):
We'll see.
That's something else thatwe're kind of putting into um
our goals.
We're big about our goals thisyear.
I mean, we've always been bigabout it, but I think even more
now, just being more intentionalabout it is something that
we're we're making sure that wetackle essentially, and I think
the last thing we could go intois the word of the year so we
had started doing.
(27:40):
I don't know where did I getthat from somewhere?
Did I just say we need to wearthat one time?
I just said we need a word ofthe year and I've seen people
actually talk about it recently,but we've had the only one I
can remember right now is likeelevate, but we're like what is
going to be our word of the year, the word.
I think it sets the tone of thetheme of your year, um, and
most of the things will fall onunder it.
(28:01):
So what's our word of the year?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
so how we came to the word of the year was we looked
at our goals and then I put intochat gbt, that's it.
We're trying to find a word ofthe year that describes our
goals and I also put somesetbacks.
And also you can't just put itin the chat GBT, and say, hey,
spit this out for me.
So it's going to give you abunch of words, but we went
based off of where we felt wewere last year, where we want to
(28:25):
be this year, and the word wechose of this year was
breakthrough.
So we know there's some thingswe want to do, like Janoka's
going to get into her contentbag.
Like breaking through theceiling of us doing everything
together.
We'll still have the podcast,right?
I'm going to be doing, probablydoing some solo episodes by
myself.
Janoka might decide to do herepisodes by herself.
She's on TikTok.
(28:45):
If they don't ban it, if youguys watching this, if you still
got TikTok, they ain't banningit yet I put up a vlog.
So those are just a few of thethings.
We might also go into someother, like start educating
people on social media andcontent creation and stuff like
that.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Don't keep a glass ceiling.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah.
So that's like breaking throughwhere we've been and figuring
out what that next step is.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, so that's our word of the year, but some of
what we've been speaking aboutwe spoke about just changing
your setting to do your goalsetting, pre-planning for that.
Don't just sit down and say,all right, let's do it, because
you will be there for hours,trust and will, if you do not
have one, setting something up.
(29:26):
I think you also spoke aboutnet worth.
If that's something that youwant to do, you mentioned the
app Empower or the websiteEmpower, and that's what you can
do.
The big-ass calendar we can'treally speak on it yet, but
we're going to try it.
So maybe there'll be episodesspecifically on how that went
and how it goes, and I think,coming up with a word whatever
your word of the year is goingto be and put it somewhere and
tell people, mention it.
(29:47):
Oh, also sorry, making sure youreview your goals.
You put it in place on Januaryor whatever.
Make sure you review itfrequently so that you're
hitting these goals and makingsure they're still attainable.
You know, if an injury happensand maybe the 20 pounds ain't
for me this year, like.
So making sure you're updatingall of those things.
Seeing the needle move ishelpful as well.
(30:08):
So, yeah, that is, that is ourgoal setting of 2025.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
So setting the systems that allow you to hit
the goal.
So a system is a predictableflowing outcome and if something
changes in that system, the endresult is going to change.
A goal is just a cog in thatsystem.
So you have a bunch of systemsin it, you have a bunch of
systems in the uh you're messingme up here, sorry, I said one
(30:32):
thing.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
You have a bunch of systems.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
At the end of this system, it creates a goal for
you.
So if the goal is to get 20pounds, you have a system where
you're doing this, this, this,this and this and the goal is 20
pounds.
If something changes in thatsystem, the goal is going to
change and that's totally fine.
You got to be okay with that.
You got to review the systemstime and time again throughout
the year.
Um, so hopefully you guys havean amazing 2025.
We are a couple weeks into theyear, but we are still here for
(30:54):
you guys.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
So oh, we didn't, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Okay, go ahead Go ahead and Hit that subscribe
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Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yes, we will See you next week Maybe have a good one.
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