April 8, 2025 • 30 mins
We explore what true success looks like beyond financial milestones, examining how freedom of time, family impact, community building, personal growth, and everyday joy create a more meaningful definition of achievement.
• Freedom of time as the ultimate currency that can't be bought back
• Impact on family through breaking generational patterns and creating new opportunities
• Building community and legacy that extends beyond immediate family
• Personal growth and self-discovery that compounds with each new venture
• Finding joy in everyday moments like family vacations and simple pleasures
• The cat-and-mouse game of chasing financial success that never fully satisfies
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's going to be the same cat and mouse game when it
comes to financial success.
So you have to realize thereare going to be versions of
success that you need to findoutside of monetary, because the
money ain't it.
The money can provide some ofthose things that we spoke about
, but when you get the money,you hear it all the time.
Will Smith said I hope and Iwish that everyone could be rich
(00:23):
so they can know what it feelslike and realize it's not all,
that Will Smith is way richerthan me.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Way richer than us.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I wish everyone had the feeling of being rich and
wealthy, so that they could findout what true happiness
actually means.
Because it's not that let's go,let's go everyone's chasing the
(00:53):
bag.
But what if we told you thereal flex of is only your time,
making memories with your familyand building a legacy that
outlives you?
Today we'll be talking aboutredefining success and what it
truly means to build ameaningful life.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Welcome back to more than a side hustle podcast.
I am Janoka and I'm Anthony,and we are happy to have you
here, week after week as we talkabout our lives
entrepreneurship, parents,marriage, business, all of the
things, vacations, all of thethings.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, we're talking about how to build a meaningful
life and what it actually meansto be successful, and this
conversation came up and I'malways listening to different
podcasts.
I'm always trying to learn andgrow, and when we talk about
success, one of the biggestthings we think about is money.
Right, we're like, oh, the moremoney we have, the more
successful we have, and I thinkthat just comes from.
What does that actually comefrom?
(01:43):
What's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
uh, in general, that's how you measure success.
Most people how successful theyare.
They tend to ask like what'syour career?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And that connects to how much money you're making.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So if someone knows they're a doctor or a lawyer,
like oh, you're doing reallywell for yourself because you
know that they tend to make alot of money or engineer, or if
somebody says they're a teacher.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
it's not the same reaction.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
No, I'm serious, it's not the same reaction as
someone that they know as alawyer is not valued the same,
probably because of the cost ofmoney attached to it.
That's not the only reason, butthat has to do with it.
It's just not the same reaction.
So a lot of times we seesuccess as money, but also in
the society that we grew up inor the way that we're raised.
When we think about nine tofive successes going into the
(02:30):
career that you like, once againgoing back to work and kind of
around that, and so money isgenerally attached to that, but
it can be so much more.
I'm not here to say moneydoesn't matter, but you know,
for us success looks different,I think, at different times of
your life as well.
Right, yeah, because if you'reat a low point and you need a
job, then getting one is beingsuccessful, um, but it can be so
(02:54):
much more and you can build onso much more than that remember
the pursuit of happiness.
You remember that movie willsmith in the bathroom with his
son crying yeah, why was hecrying?
Because he couldn't get the jobthat he wanted right, then what
happened?
Eventually got it.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And then what happened?
The movie ended I don't reallyknow.
Podcast is done.
The pursuit of happiness isabout money.
Will smith getting a job?
You know, once he, once he gotthat job.
It's more about fulfillment inhis life and, um, obviously he
was at a low point.
You're just speaking about that, but I was listening to a a pot
okay, something in discussion.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
In saying this, I am thinking to myself now, can you
truly be successful withouthaving some type of money,
though, like some of the thingsthat we're going to go over now,
without money, can you evenattain it?
Probably not.
It depends you.
Some of these things, youactually some of them.
yeah, well, this some of them.
I would say yes, because thisis why some people say just
(03:47):
because you're rich doesn't meanthat you're happy, and all
those types of things, but thereare other things, but I think
you know, having the moneyallows for some of these stuff,
though, and I think this episodeis is extremely important right
now because where we are in theworld and in the market, it is
a.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Depending on when you listen to this episode, it
could be a year from today, butright now it's a bloodbath in
the market.
What?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
a bloodbath.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It is literally a bloodbath.
The markets are as low as themarkets have been achieving
record lows.
We're having a high amount oflayoffs during this time.
So February, march, april, likeall these months back to back
to back have been record monthsin terms of layoffs, and there's
going to be a particular timethat we got to find success and
happiness outside of the amountof income we bring in.
(04:33):
We got to find other ways to behappy during this time, because
we might not find it, you know,in generating income.
Well, some of us right, there'salways going to be people
spending.
There's always going to bepeople making money throughout
the throughout the amount oftime in history when the markets
are like this.
This is when people tend tobuild the most wealth, because
they're the ones that actuallygo out and invest and learn and
(04:53):
grow.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
They're like and do something about it and do
something about it, right?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
so I was listening to a podcast and this is just
talks about.
We talk about success and wethink about money, but this
person had a particular app.
It was an app and it wastalking to a founder and they
were trying to find ways to getinvestors.
And one of the things they saidwas oh, I can't get investors
because most investors are whiteand, truth be told, most
(05:18):
investors, when you go throughseed rounds and funding and
options that work with venturecapitalists, that's a white
league for the most part.
Right To be completelytransparent, you guys know this.
We ain't teach you nothing here, but you know.
They got on the phone, theyspoke to a black founder and
they said you don't absolutelyhave to go that route.
They said you have enoughpeople in your network, you have
(05:39):
enough resources that you cango another route where you don't
need to be quote unquotesuccessful by having a big
venture capitalist fund backingyou.
And the first thing theythought about was oh, I need to
go and get.
I need to go get funding inorder to be successful.
Like, no, you're successfulright now, where you are.
You just need to change yourenvironment and get around the
right people who will give youbetter advice, cause what you're
(06:00):
hearing and what you're seeingis the absolute wrong advice.
That will keep you exactlywhere you are today, and that's
why it's important to get aroundthe right people.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And I also think that when it comes to success, it's
different depending on whatyou're going for, right?
So at night sometimes we'relike that's a successful day
with the kids, right?
It doesn't always have to bethis grand thing when it comes
to success.
It can be something prettysmall, like I made it through
the day, I made it through theweek, I made it through this
meeting with whoever or whateverit may be, I made it through a
(06:32):
hard conversation with a familymember or a friend.
So it does look different indifferent ways, but these are
some of the ways that successlooks like outside of money that
we wanted to talk about, thatsometimes people don't consider
or think about, which this firstone, I think, is our biggest
one that we scream to the top ofthe mountains all the time, and
it is freedom of time.
And I don't know that we reallywe as human beings in general,
not just the audience, us toothat happens.
(06:54):
I don't know that we reallyappreciate or think about time
as much.
I mean now, as you get older,maybe you're thinking about it
more, but you cannot buy backtime.
That's one thing that we'revery particular about.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So, whatever we're, putting Well, you can buy back
time.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Oh, with the guy who's watching what the
Kardashians.
He's getting younger.
The Venmo guy, anyway, you gotto explain what that was.
I don't know the real detailsof it, but he's reversing his
time, he's getting younger.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So you got people who are biohacking their bodies and
their age, and we're talkingabout buying back your time.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
They're like his metabolism is the age of a
20-year-old, but he's really 60.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I don't know if he's 60, maybe 45.
I don't know.
So technically, you could buyback your time with that.
But buying back your time whatmeans that you're spending money
to get time for.
So, like we talk about mealprep or laundry, okay, things
like that but generally most ofus are not doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So the freedom of time is such a big deal um for
us in this household that youknow, if anthony or myself get
on calls, it has to make sensebecause you're taking away from
our time from doing somethingelse, mostly probably for the
family, for the kids, and that'simportant to us right Time to
be able to go on vacations Noteveryone has enough PTO or
(08:13):
enough time to be able to dothose things or to visit family
and friends Time to be able togo on a date for an hour or two
with your spouse.
So freedom of time is soimportant and I think that's one
of the biggest things that wescream about and when it comes
to our success outside of money,um, anything else you would say
about that at all?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I would say um, if you hadthe ability to have complete
control and freedom over yourtime, what would that look like?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So I know that's hard for some people.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That's hard for me.
I know you've done the wholejourney, like you'll wake up, go
do Pilates, have a Starbucksmocha chocolate.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't even drink Starbucks or coffee.
People, he's lying.
You don't drink Starbucks youdon't drink Starbucks.
Well, yeah, but I don't drinkcoffee.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
People usually think Starbucks is coffee.
Oh, you said I don't drinkStarbucks, but you do drink
Starbucks Once every two, threeweeks.
That is drinking Starbucks.
So when you think about havingfreedom of your time, so I know
that I want to spend the morning.
I don't want to have to spendthe morning rushing throughout
our day because we got to getthe kids out and ready for
school, so one of the things Istarted doing was going to the
(09:19):
gym before they wake up.
I was like, all right, by 7o'clock I can come in.
I've been doing so.
My morning routine people talkabout I'm not going to do the.
We didn't even talk about that.
What's his name?
Ashton Hall Morning routine.
My morning routine has been forthe last I'd probably say the
last couple weeks.
Probably the last couple ofweeks.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's been the last two, three weeks, but it
basically seems like I've beendoing this for seven months.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
It's been the last two, three weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I always wake up early.
Yeah, yeah, but what I've beentrying?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
to do was I don't want to rush and have to run out
and run to the gym.
So one thing I've been doing iswaking up a little bit earlier.
So I will wake up this the samecalm meditation app and it's
like 10 minute routine.
I'll sit in my closet in thedark because I can't go into the
room, because I hear peopledriving and stuff like that.
(10:07):
So I sit in the closet becausethat's where my clothes are and
I don't want to wake you up.
So I'll sit there, listen tothe calm app, breathe in,
breathe out.
For 10 minutes I'll get up outof the closet, get dressed, you
know, brush my teeth, wash myface, all that stuff go to the
gym.
So now when I come back, I'mcalm, I exhausted my body, I got
my mind in the right place, sonow I go in and wake up my
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daughter.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And time does look different for us, since we don't
work a standard 9 to 5.
And I say standard 9 to 5because we'd be in this office
still for a certain amount ofhours and honestly, that's a
whole nother topic likeentrepreneurship looking
different from what I thought.
But time does look differentfor when we were working full
(10:49):
time jobs.
But, like you said, we're ableto move slower, prioritize, rest
, making sure that we doexercise because we have a bit
more time in our day.
But that's the whole reason forus at least, for
entrepreneurship, for us atleast for entrepreneurship, for
being able to have options,being able to, um, get that
freedom of time, because youcannot get time back.
Essentially is what I was.
What about?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
what about to the non-entrepreneur?
I mean our?
Our goal of this show is tohelp people who have not in the
files, create options.
So let's create options for thepeople who aren't entrepreneurs
.
What would that look like?
Freedom of time for them?
So for us, when we we're gonnatalk about, it's gonna be always
oh, you guys, so it was before,when we had the freedom of time
.
We didn't have kids, so we usedour time to grind to create
(11:30):
more income so that we could payoff the debt.
That was our version of freedomof time yeah we had the time, it
was flexible and we controlledit.
We were able to control ourtime throughout that.
Then it's like, okay, you havekids.
So you guys are saying, well,if you got kids, what do I do
then?
And I have a 9 to 5.
So I was talking to a lady andwe were doing our coaching call
and I said is there any timeduring your day where you have
(11:55):
the ability to just do nothing?
And she's like, yeah, haveabout um three hours once my
kids go down or whatever.
I was like what time is that?
She's like usually from like 9to 12.
I was like wait 9, 10, 11, 12,that's three hours yeah so it
was like 9 to 10, it was like 9to 11, 11, 30 or something like
that.
So I was like you at least havetwo hours of freedom and
flexibility that you could dowhatever you want.
(12:15):
So yeah, yes, um, and I waslike, is it any more time
throughout the day?
It's like, well, I got 15minutes here, 30 minutes there.
I was like, okay, now this isstarting to add up.
I'm not even going to countthat, let's just focus on that
two, two to three hour windowthat you have at night.
What are you doing during thattime?
She's like I'm usually justwatching tv.
I was like is this somethingthat you want to do or
accomplish instead of watchingtv?
And we kind of went through itand she was like, oh yeah, I
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could use that time.
Even if I don't use a full twohours, I could use about an hour
at that time just to get somework done.
And that's what we're talkingabout having that freedom of
time, because you could find it,it's just gonna find it do you?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
do you have to wake up earlier, you know, before the
kids get up.
I see a lot of those when youspeak about routines.
But I do watch a lot of routinevideos of moms and just people
in general, and I've seen people, yeah, wake up at four, 30.
And I'm like baby.
Some people are morning people,yeah, or they make themselves
morning people because they areprioritizing whatever it is.
They're waking up earlier tomake sure they meditate, make
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sure they pray, do something forthemselves before they attack
the world.
Essentially Because, yes, onceyou get them kids up, get the
day started, get to work, thereis like no time to breathe
during that time.
So can you wake up a littleearlier?
Can you do something at the endof the day and maybe it's not
every day, because I completelyunderstand, like when that, when
the kids go down, or when it'sthe end of the day, I don't want
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to look at nobody, I don't wantto do anything, but if there is
something that's important toyou, can you set the time apart
to do it.
So, yes or yes, yes or yes next.
So that was the first one.
Freedom of time, um, issomething that's important, that
is, you know, we measure assuccess outside of just money.
The second one is impact on ourfamily.
(13:52):
So us being good, oh, no, no.
So us being home does not meanthat you are necessarily with
your family the entire time,like we have had with our first
daughter.
We had a nanny full time, andthen with our second daughter,
we now have our peer and ouroldest is in school, right.
(14:14):
So during the day, you know,we're not necessarily with her
all the time time, but we'reable to still check in because
she's in the house, right, she'snot, it's not like she's
somewhere else, so we can stillkind of see her.
And having, you know, theability to kind of always be
around if there's somethinghappening at alani school at 12
(14:34):
in the afternoon, we can show up, um, if there's something
happening and they tell uswithin two hours, we can be
there that impact of being ableto show up whenever you want,
being able to have time to takeher places on the weekends after
school, that type of stuff isjust as important for us, um, as
money, and even more, I wouldsay and breaking generational
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curses curses and creatingopportunities for our children
and that's one of the thingsthat I posted something on
social media.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
We was in Columbia.
We didn't talk about being inColumbia.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Oh, we didn't yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
We got to catch y'all up on what's been happening.
Well, we went to Columbia.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I did do a vlog, though, on traveling there.
Did it post?
Yes, did you post it on.
My personal page.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So we went to columbia and I said I want to
get some content with alani andI was like and she did like a
little, a quick little mini vlog.
I said where are we?
She's like columbia, and I waslike you having fun?
She's like, yes, and I was likeare you happy?
She's like yeah, something likethat.
But it's just like those momentswhere you're able to work and
still include the family in someof the tasks.
Like this has technicallyworked for us, but being able to
, if we wanted to, if Alani washere, we could bring her into
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the podcast, let her play around.
But this is now us creatingopportunities for ourselves and
our family.
And then even, for example,with the cleaning business,
there was a time where your momhad to talk to some people
speaking Spanish, and these areopportunities We've had.
One of my frat bros bought histwo kids in and they was picking
up phones during the summer orcalling people in their own
(16:04):
businesses.
So these are the things thatyou're able to do that a
traditional 9 to 5 might notallow you to do.
So I was like I can't hire mykids in my 9 to 5 because I
don't own the job, but my bosscould hire his nephew that
didn't know a damn thing aboutthe job, and that could hire his
nephew that didn't know a damnthing about the job.
And that's another story foranother day, but these are the
things that are measured.
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That helps us measure the typeof success that we want by the
opportunities that we're able toprovide for other people
Friends, family.
We can invest in our friends,we can invest in our families.
We can invest in theirbusinesses.
We could hire them to do thingsfor us, with us, alongside us,
and it's like always,opportunities that we can create
for other people.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And just along the lines of creating those
opportunities for your childrenjust being able to do like, okay
, from the very at a young ageAlani was in swimming,
gymnastics, music class.
Same thing will be for Amayaand then soon we'll be signing
her up for, possibly, iceskating or dance and all these
other things.
So those opportunities and theimpact that we can have in our
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family, and even something asAlani seeing us on YouTube
because she watches YouTube hereand there with Miss Rachel and
once in a while our video wouldbe there and she's like I want
to watch, watch that, and it'smommy and daddy, so, uh, these
podcasts can be an impact, youknow, on our, on our family and
our children, which I think kindof brings us to that, to the
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next thing the third thingcommunity.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Community and legacy is another way we we measure
success, that legacy piece.
Everyone talks aboutgenerational wealth and passing
down money, but what is theactual legacy of your family?
Look like and the YouTube partof it is a funny one, because
your grandmother my grandmotherin Panama watches it.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
92-year-old, she watches our podcast.
Shout out to Abuela.
Shout out to Abuela she watchesour podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
She's 92 years old.
She's on YouTube consuming ourcontent.
Imagine if you could go backand watch videos of your great
great, great great grandmother,great grandfather.
What they were doing at thattime, what were the struggles?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
going on well how, what they were doing, but still
a little different.
It's a little different.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, we know.
Yeah, it wasn't.
It wasn't that, but we're gonnamove forward.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
We're breaking generational curses and
hopefully things continue tochange.
Well, they have obviously.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oh yeah so you mean that they was out there?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
yeah, there was no time for this.
Yeah, they know this is.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
This is the thing that the legacy that we're
talking about.
Like we would hope that stuffis not recorded, it's documented
.
It needs to be shared,obviously, but we don't know
what the next gender, next two,three, four generations, will
look like.
So if they come back and watchour videos, this could be that
version like oh they, they gotta, they got to record stuff, they
got to sit there.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
They don't have their .
We just think about it and youknow what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
They don't have their hologram, doing that stuff for
them, like, oh my God, thatcould be.
So imagine your kids, kids,kids, looking at videos of
yourself and what you guys aregoing through and what you guys
were accomplishing and beingable decided to change.
Somebody decided to say I'mgoing to pay off $114,000 of
debt.
I decided to leave my 9 to 5.
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I decided to have these kids, Idecided to take them traveling,
I decided to start sharing onsocial media and that could be
anyone.
So when you're talking aboutcreating a legacy, it's not just
about the generational wealth.
It's about also the teachingmoments and the opportunities
and the rewards that you'reallowing people to receive on
behalf of that.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I think another big one for us is, you know, the joy
of building a community withClean and Business University.
Now, there's not many timesthat we sit and kind of do kudos
to ourselves, but every once ina while, when someone just
simply says thank you forallowing me to think differently
, or thank you, and I have hadtwo bookings, thank you, and I
hit 10,000 in two months, orwhatever it may be, that is
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community, that is legacy, thatis an impact on someone's life
and family that we probablydidn't even think about.
That would always be with them.
Like, if you have this cleaningbusiness, you can pass it down
to anyone, it can be part ofyour family forever, and that's
something that the heart dogshave played a part in.
So that's huge for us.
Our cleaning business communityis huge for those people that
once in a while, just let usknow what's happening.
We thank you because wewouldn't know, right, and
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sometimes it's like do peoplestill want this and does it make
sense to still do this?
And even if you don't open acleaning business and you do the
course and you do somethingelse with it, or you just get
some type of knowledge from us,even from our podcast from our
content, then that is part ofour legacy, that's part of the
community that we are building.
So I think that that's a not abigger thing, because obviously
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it's important for our family tosee us.
You know, and kind of be a partof that, but we've impacted
strangers and thousands ofstrangers that we may never hear
from, and people that we havechanged the trajectory of their
life, and not just their life,their legacy.
So I think that's just asimportant.
So kudos to us on that.
Here we go, celebrate.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That was a good one yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So you think about what kind of legacy you want to
leave for your family, yourcommunity.
That's it, she nailed that onePersonal growth and
self-discovery.
It's number four.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Building businesses have stretched us as individuals
, as people, as parents, asfamily, as friends, learning
patience, learning communication, learning resilience.
These are versions of successthat you may or may not think of
when you start your business.
We've grown as a couple,balancing these type of
conversations, Like you know.
(21:25):
It was like I don't want torecord, Anthony wants to record.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Anthony's always recording.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Janoka wants to record today, so here you go
Right.
So here we are, these are.
These are many wins that you goout and you realize these are,
these are versions of successthat have nothing to do with
money.
So you talk about all thethings that you've been able to
accomplish, but the personalgrowth and discovery of yourself
and others, that's a version ofsuccess that we have to be
reminded of constantly yeah, Ithink, like you said, the
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confidence and clarity.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So when we first started our cleaning business,
it was our first business, sothere is no confidence there.
You know you may haveconfidence in other areas, but
when you're doing something new,something that you've never
done before, you're not asconfident with it.
You think like I don't knowwhat I'm doing, am I doing this
right?
You're questioning everythingthat you're getting started with
when you don't even need to,right, because half of us don't
(22:13):
know what we're doing either.
We're just doing it.
That's the difference.
We're actually going to try it,fail and do it again, and some
of us are just going to sit backon the side and say like I
don't know what I'm doing, so Idon't think, I'm not going to
start it.
So I think that with personalgrowth and self-discovery, you
do gain that confidence in areasthat you may have never thought
of, right?
So when I think about just formyself, when I think about doing
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content, I'm like there's no,why would I be?
I shouldn't be scared of doingcontent.
I've been doing it for sevenyears, right, and that's a
confidence that's come just withtime, right?
So just something as simple asthat the personal growth and the
self-discovery that you learnthroughout the process and when
you have these conversationswith people, you never think
about it in the moment per se,but it is something that kind of
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helps you and builds to yoursuccess throughout your life,
because they can't no one cantake that away from you, if you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, that no one can take that confidence away from
you.
So, going from, it took us fiveyears to build our first seven
figure business.
We built our second sevenfigure business in two and a
half to three and a half threeyears.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, now think about the next, the third venture
that we decide to start right,will it two and a?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
half to three, two and a half, three years.
Yeah, now think about the next,the third venture that we
decide to start right.
Will it take two and a halfyears?
Will it take two years?
Will it take one?
You're able to compound thoseexperiences, you're able to
compound that growth, you'reable to take what you learned
from your nine to five, fromthat first experience, from that
second, into that third and itall snowballs into a cumulation
(23:39):
accumulation.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Cumulation Sounds like Kamala.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh, they need her now .
We all need her right.
So it becomes a cumulation ofskill sets.
What's the game, liam Nelson?
Have a particular skill set.
Is that him?
Oh, I don't know, but youreminded me of something else.
Have a particular skill setthat can be used to find you.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Oh, in any movie he takes, does taken Taken.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, have a particular set of skills that,
uh, but either way, you have aparticular set of skills that
you can now use a snowballbecause you have that personal
growth, you have thatdevelopment and that's another
version of success that you haveto be mindful of.
That has nothing to do withmonetary.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So, before we get to the last one, I just want to
recap all the things that we'resaying.
So what success looks like forus beyond money?
The first one we spoke aboutwas freedom of time.
The second one was the impacton our family.
Number three is community andlegacy.
Number four is personal growthand self-discovery.
And the last one is joy in theeveryday moments, which I kind
of touched on at the beginning.
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And the last one is joy in theeveryday moments which I kind of
touched on at the beginning.
So the simple joys of thingsfamily vacation, lazy mornings,
spontaneous adventures, weekends, bringing out the bouncy house
in our backyard for our daughterto jump in that is success to
us.
We have a house, we have abouncy house that our daughter
can utilize.
We don't have to go anywhere todo it.
We have, we've had events atour home.
(25:00):
We've had our baby our home,we've had our baby shower, we've
had our um housewarming at ourhome.
Those are little success joys.
A moment to bring our familyand friends together in
something that we build,something that we're comfortable
in, for them to have thosemoments with us.
Um, the financial freedom ofprioritizing those moments right
, because you do need some typeof money to do these things.
(25:20):
Taking our children to DisneyWorld with us, where we had all
the grandparents with us wedon't know when we'll ever have
that type of vacation againwhere we can have all the
grandparents join.
Or taking our daughter to SouthAfrica with us, where she went
to safari I don't know if I'llever do that again.
Will she ever do it again, whoknows?
So those little joys andeveryday moments are definitely
(25:42):
part of the success, definitelypart of what we think about.
When we think about success andwe were talking about that, I
think, the other day becauseTony kind of kicks and fights to
go to any vacation and he'snever really excited until like
the day before, and I'm excitedfive months in advance.
I'm like we got to put theticket now and he's like every
time he gets there he's like,yeah, this was really good, we
(26:04):
needed this, we should have donethis.
And I'm like I know that youdidn't have to tell me that.
I knew I just had to like pullit out of you.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
But you know you never kind of regret, sorry
those moments that you have withfamily and friends and you
spend and that spontaneous tripto New York, like just being
there for an event.
You just never regret thosethings.
And let me give you guys somereal life context on the
monetary success and how itfeels in certain aspects and I'm
going to make it superrelatable to where you are today
and also where we are today.
So think about where you wereseven years ago, five years ago,
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whatever you were doing, therewas a time or let's say last
year, there was a time and amoment where you prayed to be
where you are today.
You might have cried for it,you might have wanted it so bad.
You said, if I get there I'llbe good.
And I want you to visualizethis because I remember when I
wanted to get my first job inNew York City and I was like I
hope I get to leave Albany, newYork, and go to New York City.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I hope that I prayed and.
I wished.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
And then I got it and I said yes.
And then seven years later,eight years later, I'm like, oh,
I'm still here.
Now it's like, yeah, I love myjob, I love the people.
I no longer love the job andit's like, okay, now I'm just
doing the same thing.
It's like what's next?
But I remember eight years ago,nine years ago, praying for
that job.
Think about where, what youprayed for, and then, when you
got in, and imagine how you, andthen you know how you felt when
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you got it.
I remember when we hit ourfirst, we wanted to, we wanted
to pay off $114, we did it.
It was like, oh my God, we didit.
We popped champagne Very nextday.
It was like okay.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, what's next, what's next.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And then I remember we didn't even know that we
became millionaires, like, oh,we can't wait to become
millionaires.
And then we became it.
We didn't even know it.
And then it was like, oh, okay,what's next?
And then it was like, oh, okay,we did it.
(28:06):
Oh, wait, what's next?
Okay, maybe a hundred thousanddollars in a month.
What happens?
My life will be so different.
And that was three years ago.
It's like okay.
And then we did it againmultiple times.
It's like, well, I want to makea million.
It's going to be the same catand mouse game when it comes to
financial success.
So you have to realize they'rethey're going to be version of
success that you need to findoutside of monetary, because the
money ain't the money, ain't it.
The money can provide some ofthose things that we spoke about
(28:26):
, but when you get the money,you hear it all the time um, so
will.
Smith said.
I hope and I wish that everyonecould be rich, so they can know
what it feels like and realizeit's not all that.
Yeah, so they can really.
He said.
I wish everyone could be rich,so they can know what it feels
like and realize it's not allthat.
Yeah, so they can really.
He said I wish everybody couldbe rich so they could actually
find what success and truehappiness is.
Will Smith is way richer thanme Way richer than us.
(28:51):
He said, I wish everyone had thefeeling of being rich and
wealthy, so that they could findout what true happiness
actually means, because it's notthat.
So we gave you guys someencouragement, but we also want
you guys to think about whatdoes success and happiness look
like for you now, today, beyondmoney, what brings?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
you the most joy and beyond the standards of society,
like just for yourself, becausethat's another thing.
Like we said, careers isusually attached to that.
Beyond money, beyond thestandards of society, what does
it look like for yourself?
What brings you the most joyand fulfillment?
Those things are success.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
You know, seeing your body change.
Running one mile, running amile, consistently, like those
things are success that we justlike oh okay, I did it, or this
person does it all the time.
That has nothing to do withanybody else, but what about you
?
What about your family?
What about the intentions thatyou kind of set?
What about your family?
What about the intentions thatyou kind of set, which is always
important, as to like brings usto like goals, which that's
going to be our next episode.
You know the quarterly goals,like how are you even measuring
what the success is if you don'thave it written down or know
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what you're striving towards,right?
So, beyond money, what bringsyou most joy and fulfillment?
Just think about that Commenton you know, our YouTube Comment
on our Instagram, when, on ourInstagram, when we post this let
us know what are the thingsthat you, that you look at and
what do you measure.
Health is a big thing.
That's beyond success, right?
Because another thing you don'thave control over that you just
(30:09):
hope that you will be hereforever.
You hope that you eat, right,you hope that you do all these
things.
So, um, yeah, I don't think Ihad anything for that.
Yeah, I don't think I hadanything for that.
Let me see if there's anythingelse.
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without cleaning any houses.
It's going to be the same cat and mouse game when it
comes to financial success.
So you have to realize thereare going to be versions of
success that you need to findoutside of monetary, because the
money ain't it.
The money can provide some ofthose things that we spoke about
, but when you get the money,you hear it all the time.
Will Smith said I hope and Iwish that everyone could be rich
(00:23):
so they can know what it feelslike and realize it's not all,
that Will Smith is way richerthan me.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Way richer than us.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I wish everyone had the feeling of being rich and
wealthy, so that they could findout what true happiness
actually means.
Because it's not that let's go,let's go everyone's chasing the
(00:53):
bag.
But what if we told you thereal flex of is only your time,
making memories with your familyand building a legacy that
outlives you?
Today we'll be talking aboutredefining success and what it
truly means to build ameaningful life.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Welcome back to more than a side hustle podcast.
I am Janoka and I'm Anthony,and we are happy to have you
here, week after week as we talkabout our lives
entrepreneurship, parents,marriage, business, all of the
things, vacations, all of thethings.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, we're talking about how to build a meaningful
life and what it actually meansto be successful, and this
conversation came up and I'malways listening to different
podcasts.
I'm always trying to learn andgrow, and when we talk about
success, one of the biggestthings we think about is money.
Right, we're like, oh, the moremoney we have, the more
successful we have, and I thinkthat just comes from.
What does that actually comefrom?
(01:43):
What's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
uh, in general, that's how you measure success.
Most people how successful theyare.
They tend to ask like what'syour career?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And that connects to how much money you're making.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So if someone knows they're a doctor or a lawyer,
like oh, you're doing reallywell for yourself because you
know that they tend to make alot of money or engineer, or if
somebody says they're a teacher.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
it's not the same reaction.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
No, I'm serious, it's not the same reaction as
someone that they know as alawyer is not valued the same,
probably because of the cost ofmoney attached to it.
That's not the only reason, butthat has to do with it.
It's just not the same reaction.
So a lot of times we seesuccess as money, but also in
the society that we grew up inor the way that we're raised.
When we think about nine tofive successes going into the
(02:30):
career that you like, once againgoing back to work and kind of
around that, and so money isgenerally attached to that, but
it can be so much more.
I'm not here to say moneydoesn't matter, but you know,
for us success looks different,I think, at different times of
your life as well.
Right, yeah, because if you'reat a low point and you need a
job, then getting one is beingsuccessful, um, but it can be so
(02:54):
much more and you can build onso much more than that remember
the pursuit of happiness.
You remember that movie willsmith in the bathroom with his
son crying yeah, why was hecrying?
Because he couldn't get the jobthat he wanted right, then what
happened?
Eventually got it.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And then what happened?
The movie ended I don't reallyknow.
Podcast is done.
The pursuit of happiness isabout money.
Will smith getting a job?
You know, once he, once he gotthat job.
It's more about fulfillment inhis life and, um, obviously he
was at a low point.
You're just speaking about that, but I was listening to a a pot
okay, something in discussion.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
In saying this, I am thinking to myself now, can you
truly be successful withouthaving some type of money,
though, like some of the thingsthat we're going to go over now,
without money, can you evenattain it?
Probably not.
It depends you.
Some of these things, youactually some of them.
yeah, well, this some of them.
I would say yes, because thisis why some people say just
(03:47):
because you're rich doesn't meanthat you're happy, and all
those types of things, but thereare other things, but I think
you know, having the moneyallows for some of these stuff,
though, and I think this episodeis is extremely important right
now because where we are in theworld and in the market, it is
a.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Depending on when you listen to this episode, it
could be a year from today, butright now it's a bloodbath in
the market.
What?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
a bloodbath.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It is literally a bloodbath.
The markets are as low as themarkets have been achieving
record lows.
We're having a high amount oflayoffs during this time.
So February, march, april, likeall these months back to back
to back have been record monthsin terms of layoffs, and there's
going to be a particular timethat we got to find success and
happiness outside of the amountof income we bring in.
(04:33):
We got to find other ways to behappy during this time, because
we might not find it, you know,in generating income.
Well, some of us right, there'salways going to be people
spending.
There's always going to bepeople making money throughout
the throughout the amount oftime in history when the markets
are like this.
This is when people tend tobuild the most wealth, because
they're the ones that actuallygo out and invest and learn and
(04:53):
grow.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
They're like and do something about it and do
something about it, right?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
so I was listening to a podcast and this is just
talks about.
We talk about success and wethink about money, but this
person had a particular app.
It was an app and it wastalking to a founder and they
were trying to find ways to getinvestors.
And one of the things they saidwas oh, I can't get investors
because most investors are whiteand, truth be told, most
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investors, when you go throughseed rounds and funding and
options that work with venturecapitalists, that's a white
league for the most part.
Right To be completelytransparent, you guys know this.
We ain't teach you nothing here, but you know.
They got on the phone, theyspoke to a black founder and
they said you don't absolutelyhave to go that route.
They said you have enoughpeople in your network, you have
(05:39):
enough resources that you cango another route where you don't
need to be quote unquotesuccessful by having a big
venture capitalist fund backingyou.
And the first thing theythought about was oh, I need to
go and get.
I need to go get funding inorder to be successful.
Like, no, you're successfulright now, where you are.
You just need to change yourenvironment and get around the
right people who will give youbetter advice, cause what you're
(06:00):
hearing and what you're seeingis the absolute wrong advice.
That will keep you exactlywhere you are today, and that's
why it's important to get aroundthe right people.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And I also think that when it comes to success, it's
different depending on whatyou're going for, right?
So at night sometimes we'relike that's a successful day
with the kids, right?
It doesn't always have to bethis grand thing when it comes
to success.
It can be something prettysmall, like I made it through
the day, I made it through theweek, I made it through this
meeting with whoever or whateverit may be, I made it through a
(06:32):
hard conversation with a familymember or a friend.
So it does look different indifferent ways, but these are
some of the ways that successlooks like outside of money that
we wanted to talk about, thatsometimes people don't consider
or think about, which this firstone, I think, is our biggest
one that we scream to the top ofthe mountains all the time, and
it is freedom of time.
And I don't know that we reallywe as human beings in general,
not just the audience, us toothat happens.
(06:54):
I don't know that we reallyappreciate or think about time
as much.
I mean now, as you get older,maybe you're thinking about it
more, but you cannot buy backtime.
That's one thing that we'revery particular about.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So, whatever we're, putting Well, you can buy back
time.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Oh, with the guy who's watching what the
Kardashians.
He's getting younger.
The Venmo guy, anyway, you gotto explain what that was.
I don't know the real detailsof it, but he's reversing his
time, he's getting younger.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So you got people who are biohacking their bodies and
their age, and we're talkingabout buying back your time.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
They're like his metabolism is the age of a
20-year-old, but he's really 60.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I don't know if he's 60, maybe 45.
I don't know.
So technically, you could buyback your time with that.
But buying back your time whatmeans that you're spending money
to get time for.
So, like we talk about mealprep or laundry, okay, things
like that but generally most ofus are not doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So the freedom of time is such a big deal um for
us in this household that youknow, if anthony or myself get
on calls, it has to make sensebecause you're taking away from
our time from doing somethingelse, mostly probably for the
family, for the kids, and that'simportant to us right Time to
be able to go on vacations Noteveryone has enough PTO or
(08:13):
enough time to be able to dothose things or to visit family
and friends Time to be able togo on a date for an hour or two
with your spouse.
So freedom of time is soimportant and I think that's one
of the biggest things that wescream about and when it comes
to our success outside of money,um, anything else you would say
about that at all?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I would say um, if you hadthe ability to have complete
control and freedom over yourtime, what would that look like?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So I know that's hard for some people.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That's hard for me.
I know you've done the wholejourney, like you'll wake up, go
do Pilates, have a Starbucksmocha chocolate.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't even drink Starbucks or coffee.
People, he's lying.
You don't drink Starbucks youdon't drink Starbucks.
Well, yeah, but I don't drinkcoffee.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
People usually think Starbucks is coffee.
Oh, you said I don't drinkStarbucks, but you do drink
Starbucks Once every two, threeweeks.
That is drinking Starbucks.
So when you think about havingfreedom of your time, so I know
that I want to spend the morning.
I don't want to have to spendthe morning rushing throughout
our day because we got to getthe kids out and ready for
school, so one of the things Istarted doing was going to the
(09:19):
gym before they wake up.
I was like, all right, by 7o'clock I can come in.
I've been doing so.
My morning routine people talkabout I'm not going to do the.
We didn't even talk about that.
What's his name?
Ashton Hall Morning routine.
My morning routine has been forthe last I'd probably say the
last couple weeks.
Probably the last couple ofweeks.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's been the last two, three weeks, but it
basically seems like I've beendoing this for seven months.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
It's been the last two, three weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I always wake up early.
Yeah, yeah, but what I've beentrying?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
to do was I don't want to rush and have to run out
and run to the gym.
So one thing I've been doing iswaking up a little bit earlier.
So I will wake up this the samecalm meditation app and it's
like 10 minute routine.
I'll sit in my closet in thedark because I can't go into the
room, because I hear peopledriving and stuff like that.
(10:07):
So I sit in the closet becausethat's where my clothes are and
I don't want to wake you up.
So I'll sit there, listen tothe calm app, breathe in,
breathe out.
For 10 minutes I'll get up outof the closet, get dressed, you
know, brush my teeth, wash myface, all that stuff go to the
gym.
So now when I come back, I'mcalm, I exhausted my body, I got
my mind in the right place, sonow I go in and wake up my
(10:27):
daughter.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And time does look different for us, since we don't
work a standard 9 to 5.
And I say standard 9 to 5because we'd be in this office
still for a certain amount ofhours and honestly, that's a
whole nother topic likeentrepreneurship looking
different from what I thought.
But time does look differentfor when we were working full
(10:49):
time jobs.
But, like you said, we're ableto move slower, prioritize, rest
, making sure that we doexercise because we have a bit
more time in our day.
But that's the whole reason forus at least, for
entrepreneurship, for us atleast for entrepreneurship, for
being able to have options,being able to, um, get that
freedom of time, because youcannot get time back.
Essentially is what I was.
What about?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
what about to the non-entrepreneur?
I mean our?
Our goal of this show is tohelp people who have not in the
files, create options.
So let's create options for thepeople who aren't entrepreneurs
.
What would that look like?
Freedom of time for them?
So for us, when we we're gonnatalk about, it's gonna be always
oh, you guys, so it was before,when we had the freedom of time
.
We didn't have kids, so we usedour time to grind to create
(11:30):
more income so that we could payoff the debt.
That was our version of freedomof time yeah we had the time, it
was flexible and we controlledit.
We were able to control ourtime throughout that.
Then it's like, okay, you havekids.
So you guys are saying, well,if you got kids, what do I do
then?
And I have a 9 to 5.
So I was talking to a lady andwe were doing our coaching call
and I said is there any timeduring your day where you have
(11:55):
the ability to just do nothing?
And she's like, yeah, haveabout um three hours once my
kids go down or whatever.
I was like what time is that?
She's like usually from like 9to 12.
I was like wait 9, 10, 11, 12,that's three hours yeah so it
was like 9 to 10, it was like 9to 11, 11, 30 or something like
that.
So I was like you at least havetwo hours of freedom and
flexibility that you could dowhatever you want.
(12:15):
So yeah, yes, um, and I waslike, is it any more time
throughout the day?
It's like, well, I got 15minutes here, 30 minutes there.
I was like, okay, now this isstarting to add up.
I'm not even going to countthat, let's just focus on that
two, two to three hour windowthat you have at night.
What are you doing during thattime?
She's like I'm usually justwatching tv.
I was like is this somethingthat you want to do or
accomplish instead of watchingtv?
And we kind of went through itand she was like, oh yeah, I
(12:37):
could use that time.
Even if I don't use a full twohours, I could use about an hour
at that time just to get somework done.
And that's what we're talkingabout having that freedom of
time, because you could find it,it's just gonna find it do you?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
do you have to wake up earlier, you know, before the
kids get up.
I see a lot of those when youspeak about routines.
But I do watch a lot of routinevideos of moms and just people
in general, and I've seen people, yeah, wake up at four, 30.
And I'm like baby.
Some people are morning people,yeah, or they make themselves
morning people because they areprioritizing whatever it is.
They're waking up earlier tomake sure they meditate, make
(13:10):
sure they pray, do something forthemselves before they attack
the world.
Essentially Because, yes, onceyou get them kids up, get the
day started, get to work, thereis like no time to breathe
during that time.
So can you wake up a littleearlier?
Can you do something at the endof the day and maybe it's not
every day, because I completelyunderstand, like when that, when
the kids go down, or when it'sthe end of the day, I don't want
(13:31):
to look at nobody, I don't wantto do anything, but if there is
something that's important toyou, can you set the time apart
to do it.
So, yes or yes, yes or yes next.
So that was the first one.
Freedom of time, um, issomething that's important, that
is, you know, we measure assuccess outside of just money.
The second one is impact on ourfamily.
(13:52):
So us being good, oh, no, no.
So us being home does not meanthat you are necessarily with
your family the entire time,like we have had with our first
daughter.
We had a nanny full time, andthen with our second daughter,
we now have our peer and ouroldest is in school, right.
(14:14):
So during the day, you know,we're not necessarily with her
all the time time, but we'reable to still check in because
she's in the house, right, she'snot, it's not like she's
somewhere else, so we can stillkind of see her.
And having, you know, theability to kind of always be
around if there's somethinghappening at alani school at 12
(14:34):
in the afternoon, we can show up, um, if there's something
happening and they tell uswithin two hours, we can be
there that impact of being ableto show up whenever you want,
being able to have time to takeher places on the weekends after
school, that type of stuff isjust as important for us, um, as
money, and even more, I wouldsay and breaking generational
(14:55):
curses curses and creatingopportunities for our children
and that's one of the thingsthat I posted something on
social media.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
We was in Columbia.
We didn't talk about being inColumbia.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Oh, we didn't yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
We got to catch y'all up on what's been happening.
Well, we went to Columbia.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I did do a vlog, though, on traveling there.
Did it post?
Yes, did you post it on.
My personal page.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So we went to columbia and I said I want to
get some content with alani andI was like and she did like a
little, a quick little mini vlog.
I said where are we?
She's like columbia, and I waslike you having fun?
She's like, yes, and I was likeare you happy?
She's like yeah, something likethat.
But it's just like those momentswhere you're able to work and
still include the family in someof the tasks.
Like this has technicallyworked for us, but being able to
, if we wanted to, if Alani washere, we could bring her into
(15:44):
the podcast, let her play around.
But this is now us creatingopportunities for ourselves and
our family.
And then even, for example,with the cleaning business,
there was a time where your momhad to talk to some people
speaking Spanish, and these areopportunities We've had.
One of my frat bros bought histwo kids in and they was picking
up phones during the summer orcalling people in their own
(16:04):
businesses.
So these are the things thatyou're able to do that a
traditional 9 to 5 might notallow you to do.
So I was like I can't hire mykids in my 9 to 5 because I
don't own the job, but my bosscould hire his nephew that
didn't know a damn thing aboutthe job, and that could hire his
nephew that didn't know a damnthing about the job.
And that's another story foranother day, but these are the
things that are measured.
(16:26):
That helps us measure the typeof success that we want by the
opportunities that we're able toprovide for other people
Friends, family.
We can invest in our friends,we can invest in our families.
We can invest in theirbusinesses.
We could hire them to do thingsfor us, with us, alongside us,
and it's like always,opportunities that we can create
for other people.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And just along the lines of creating those
opportunities for your childrenjust being able to do like, okay
, from the very at a young ageAlani was in swimming,
gymnastics, music class.
Same thing will be for Amayaand then soon we'll be signing
her up for, possibly, iceskating or dance and all these
other things.
So those opportunities and theimpact that we can have in our
(17:05):
family, and even something asAlani seeing us on YouTube
because she watches YouTube hereand there with Miss Rachel and
once in a while our video wouldbe there and she's like I want
to watch, watch that, and it'smommy and daddy, so, uh, these
podcasts can be an impact, youknow, on our, on our family and
our children, which I think kindof brings us to that, to the
(17:27):
next thing the third thingcommunity.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Community and legacy is another way we we measure
success, that legacy piece.
Everyone talks aboutgenerational wealth and passing
down money, but what is theactual legacy of your family?
Look like and the YouTube partof it is a funny one, because
your grandmother my grandmotherin Panama watches it.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
92-year-old, she watches our podcast.
Shout out to Abuela.
Shout out to Abuela she watchesour podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
She's 92 years old.
She's on YouTube consuming ourcontent.
Imagine if you could go backand watch videos of your great
great, great great grandmother,great grandfather.
What they were doing at thattime, what were the struggles?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
going on well how, what they were doing, but still
a little different.
It's a little different.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, we know.
Yeah, it wasn't.
It wasn't that, but we're gonnamove forward.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
We're breaking generational curses and
hopefully things continue tochange.
Well, they have obviously.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oh yeah so you mean that they was out there?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
yeah, there was no time for this.
Yeah, they know this is.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
This is the thing that the legacy that we're
talking about.
Like we would hope that stuffis not recorded, it's documented
.
It needs to be shared,obviously, but we don't know
what the next gender, next two,three, four generations, will
look like.
So if they come back and watchour videos, this could be that
version like oh they, they gotta, they got to record stuff, they
got to sit there.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
They don't have their .
We just think about it and youknow what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
They don't have their hologram, doing that stuff for
them, like, oh my God, thatcould be.
So imagine your kids, kids,kids, looking at videos of
yourself and what you guys aregoing through and what you guys
were accomplishing and beingable decided to change.
Somebody decided to say I'mgoing to pay off $114,000 of
debt.
I decided to leave my 9 to 5.
(19:02):
I decided to have these kids, Idecided to take them traveling,
I decided to start sharing onsocial media and that could be
anyone.
So when you're talking aboutcreating a legacy, it's not just
about the generational wealth.
It's about also the teachingmoments and the opportunities
and the rewards that you'reallowing people to receive on
behalf of that.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I think another big one for us is, you know, the joy
of building a community withClean and Business University.
Now, there's not many timesthat we sit and kind of do kudos
to ourselves, but every once ina while, when someone just
simply says thank you forallowing me to think differently
, or thank you, and I have hadtwo bookings, thank you, and I
hit 10,000 in two months, orwhatever it may be, that is
(19:47):
community, that is legacy, thatis an impact on someone's life
and family that we probablydidn't even think about.
That would always be with them.
Like, if you have this cleaningbusiness, you can pass it down
to anyone, it can be part ofyour family forever, and that's
something that the heart dogshave played a part in.
So that's huge for us.
Our cleaning business communityis huge for those people that
once in a while, just let usknow what's happening.
We thank you because wewouldn't know, right, and
(20:09):
sometimes it's like do peoplestill want this and does it make
sense to still do this?
And even if you don't open acleaning business and you do the
course and you do somethingelse with it, or you just get
some type of knowledge from us,even from our podcast from our
content, then that is part ofour legacy, that's part of the
community that we are building.
So I think that that's a not abigger thing, because obviously
(20:30):
it's important for our family tosee us.
You know, and kind of be a partof that, but we've impacted
strangers and thousands ofstrangers that we may never hear
from, and people that we havechanged the trajectory of their
life, and not just their life,their legacy.
So I think that's just asimportant.
So kudos to us on that.
Here we go, celebrate.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That was a good one yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So you think about what kind of legacy you want to
leave for your family, yourcommunity.
That's it, she nailed that onePersonal growth and
self-discovery.
It's number four.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Building businesses have stretched us as individuals
, as people, as parents, asfamily, as friends, learning
patience, learning communication, learning resilience.
These are versions of successthat you may or may not think of
when you start your business.
We've grown as a couple,balancing these type of
conversations, Like you know.
(21:25):
It was like I don't want torecord, Anthony wants to record.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Anthony's always recording.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Janoka wants to record today, so here you go
Right.
So here we are, these are.
These are many wins that you goout and you realize these are,
these are versions of successthat have nothing to do with
money.
So you talk about all thethings that you've been able to
accomplish, but the personalgrowth and discovery of yourself
and others, that's a version ofsuccess that we have to be
reminded of constantly yeah, Ithink, like you said, the
(21:51):
confidence and clarity.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So when we first started our cleaning business,
it was our first business, sothere is no confidence there.
You know you may haveconfidence in other areas, but
when you're doing something new,something that you've never
done before, you're not asconfident with it.
You think like I don't knowwhat I'm doing, am I doing this
right?
You're questioning everythingthat you're getting started with
when you don't even need to,right, because half of us don't
(22:13):
know what we're doing either.
We're just doing it.
That's the difference.
We're actually going to try it,fail and do it again, and some
of us are just going to sit backon the side and say like I
don't know what I'm doing, so Idon't think, I'm not going to
start it.
So I think that with personalgrowth and self-discovery, you
do gain that confidence in areasthat you may have never thought
of, right?
So when I think about just formyself, when I think about doing
(22:35):
content, I'm like there's no,why would I be?
I shouldn't be scared of doingcontent.
I've been doing it for sevenyears, right, and that's a
confidence that's come just withtime, right?
So just something as simple asthat the personal growth and the
self-discovery that you learnthroughout the process and when
you have these conversationswith people, you never think
about it in the moment per se,but it is something that kind of
(22:57):
helps you and builds to yoursuccess throughout your life,
because they can't no one cantake that away from you, if you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, that no one can take that confidence away from
you.
So, going from, it took us fiveyears to build our first seven
figure business.
We built our second sevenfigure business in two and a
half to three and a half threeyears.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, now think about the next, the third venture
that we decide to start right,will it two and a?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
half to three, two and a half, three years.
Yeah, now think about the next,the third venture that we
decide to start right.
Will it take two and a halfyears?
Will it take two years?
Will it take one?
You're able to compound thoseexperiences, you're able to
compound that growth, you'reable to take what you learned
from your nine to five, fromthat first experience, from that
second, into that third and itall snowballs into a cumulation
(23:39):
accumulation.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Cumulation Sounds like Kamala.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh, they need her now .
We all need her right.
So it becomes a cumulation ofskill sets.
What's the game, liam Nelson?
Have a particular skill set.
Is that him?
Oh, I don't know, but youreminded me of something else.
Have a particular skill setthat can be used to find you.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Oh, in any movie he takes, does taken Taken.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, have a particular set of skills that,
uh, but either way, you have aparticular set of skills that
you can now use a snowballbecause you have that personal
growth, you have thatdevelopment and that's another
version of success that you haveto be mindful of.
That has nothing to do withmonetary.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So, before we get to the last one, I just want to
recap all the things that we'resaying.
So what success looks like forus beyond money?
The first one we spoke aboutwas freedom of time.
The second one was the impacton our family.
Number three is community andlegacy.
Number four is personal growthand self-discovery.
And the last one is joy in theeveryday moments, which I kind
of touched on at the beginning.
(24:39):
And the last one is joy in theeveryday moments which I kind of
touched on at the beginning.
So the simple joys of thingsfamily vacation, lazy mornings,
spontaneous adventures, weekends, bringing out the bouncy house
in our backyard for our daughterto jump in that is success to
us.
We have a house, we have abouncy house that our daughter
can utilize.
We don't have to go anywhere todo it.
We have, we've had events atour home.
(25:00):
We've had our baby our home,we've had our baby shower, we've
had our um housewarming at ourhome.
Those are little success joys.
A moment to bring our familyand friends together in
something that we build,something that we're comfortable
in, for them to have thosemoments with us.
Um, the financial freedom ofprioritizing those moments right
, because you do need some typeof money to do these things.
(25:20):
Taking our children to DisneyWorld with us, where we had all
the grandparents with us wedon't know when we'll ever have
that type of vacation againwhere we can have all the
grandparents join.
Or taking our daughter to SouthAfrica with us, where she went
to safari I don't know if I'llever do that again.
Will she ever do it again, whoknows?
So those little joys andeveryday moments are definitely
(25:42):
part of the success, definitelypart of what we think about.
When we think about success andwe were talking about that, I
think, the other day becauseTony kind of kicks and fights to
go to any vacation and he'snever really excited until like
the day before, and I'm excitedfive months in advance.
I'm like we got to put theticket now and he's like every
time he gets there he's like,yeah, this was really good, we
(26:04):
needed this, we should have donethis.
And I'm like I know that youdidn't have to tell me that.
I knew I just had to like pullit out of you.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
But you know you never kind of regret, sorry
those moments that you have withfamily and friends and you
spend and that spontaneous tripto New York, like just being
there for an event.
You just never regret thosethings.
And let me give you guys somereal life context on the
monetary success and how itfeels in certain aspects and I'm
going to make it superrelatable to where you are today
and also where we are today.
So think about where you wereseven years ago, five years ago,
(26:42):
whatever you were doing, therewas a time or let's say last
year, there was a time and amoment where you prayed to be
where you are today.
You might have cried for it,you might have wanted it so bad.
You said, if I get there I'llbe good.
And I want you to visualizethis because I remember when I
wanted to get my first job inNew York City and I was like I
hope I get to leave Albany, newYork, and go to New York City.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I hope that I prayed and.
I wished.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
And then I got it and I said yes.
And then seven years later,eight years later, I'm like, oh,
I'm still here.
Now it's like, yeah, I love myjob, I love the people.
I no longer love the job andit's like, okay, now I'm just
doing the same thing.
It's like what's next?
But I remember eight years ago,nine years ago, praying for
that job.
Think about where, what youprayed for, and then, when you
got in, and imagine how you, andthen you know how you felt when
(27:28):
you got it.
I remember when we hit ourfirst, we wanted to, we wanted
to pay off $114, we did it.
It was like, oh my God, we didit.
We popped champagne Very nextday.
It was like okay.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, what's next, what's next.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And then I remember we didn't even know that we
became millionaires, like, oh,we can't wait to become
millionaires.
And then we became it.
We didn't even know it.
And then it was like, oh, okay,what's next?
And then it was like, oh, okay,we did it.
(28:06):
Oh, wait, what's next?
Okay, maybe a hundred thousanddollars in a month.
What happens?
My life will be so different.
And that was three years ago.
It's like okay.
And then we did it againmultiple times.
It's like, well, I want to makea million.
It's going to be the same catand mouse game when it comes to
financial success.
So you have to realize they'rethey're going to be version of
success that you need to findoutside of monetary, because the
money ain't the money, ain't it.
The money can provide some ofthose things that we spoke about
(28:26):
, but when you get the money,you hear it all the time um, so
will.
Smith said.
I hope and I wish that everyonecould be rich, so they can know
what it feels like and realizeit's not all that.
Yeah, so they can really.
He said.
I wish everyone could be rich,so they can know what it feels
like and realize it's not allthat.
Yeah, so they can really.
He said I wish everybody couldbe rich so they could actually
find what success and truehappiness is.
Will Smith is way richer thanme Way richer than us.
(28:51):
He said, I wish everyone had thefeeling of being rich and
wealthy, so that they could findout what true happiness
actually means, because it's notthat.
So we gave you guys someencouragement, but we also want
you guys to think about whatdoes success and happiness look
like for you now, today, beyondmoney, what brings?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
you the most joy and beyond the standards of society,
like just for yourself, becausethat's another thing.
Like we said, careers isusually attached to that.
Beyond money, beyond thestandards of society, what does
it look like for yourself?
What brings you the most joyand fulfillment?
Those things are success.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
You know, seeing your body change.
Running one mile, running amile, consistently, like those
things are success that we justlike oh okay, I did it, or this
person does it all the time.
That has nothing to do withanybody else, but what about you
?
What about your family?
What about the intentions thatyou kind of set?
What about your family?
What about the intentions thatyou kind of set, which is always
important, as to like brings usto like goals, which that's
going to be our next episode.
You know the quarterly goals,like how are you even measuring
what the success is if you don'thave it written down or know
(29:48):
what you're striving towards,right?
So, beyond money, what bringsyou most joy and fulfillment?
Just think about that Commenton you know, our YouTube Comment
on our Instagram, when, on ourInstagram, when we post this let
us know what are the thingsthat you, that you look at and
what do you measure.
Health is a big thing.
That's beyond success, right?
Because another thing you don'thave control over that you just
(30:09):
hope that you will be hereforever.
You hope that you eat, right,you hope that you do all these
things.
So, um, yeah, I don't think Ihad anything for that.
Yeah, I don't think I hadanything for that.
Let me see if there's anythingelse.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
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