September 6, 2025 • 31 mins
Scott Schara never imagined his journey would transform from successful businessman to full-time medical freedom advocate. But when his beloved daughter Grace died in a hospital during COVID after he was forcibly removed from her bedside, everything changed.
The heartbreaking story begins with Grace's birth in 2002. Born with Down syndrome, the hospital staff's first reaction was to ask if the family wanted to "keep her." Instead of seeing limitation, Scott and his wife embraced their daughter completely, eventually recognizing her extraordinary capacity for unconditional love. "I wish I had Down syndrome," Scott confesses, acknowledging how Grace's perspective on life taught him profound lessons about what truly matters.
When Grace developed mild COVID symptoms in October 2021, the family followed established protocols, monitoring her oxygen levels with a pulse oximeter. When her levels dropped to 88%, they took her to the hospital for what was described as a "precautionary" three-day stay. What followed instead was a nightmare of escalating interventions, medication overuse, and ultimately, Scott's forcible removal from Grace's room by hospital security.
Without her father as advocate, Grace's care deteriorated rapidly. The hospital administered contraindicated medications at dangerous levels, placed an unauthorized DNR order on her chart, and ultimately refused to enter her room when her condition crashed - forcing Scott and his wife to watch helplessly via FaceTime as their daughter died.
Through extensive research following this tragedy, Scott discovered Grace was one of an estimated 1.2 million Americans who died under similar circumstances during the COVID era. His mission now centers on warning others about the dangers of surrendering medical autonomy and the importance of patient advocacy.
Scott's powerful testimony delivers a crucial message for anyone navigating our healthcare system: "You insist they do absolutely nothing unless you have approved it." His story serves as both heartbreaking warning and empowering call to action, reminding us that medical freedom isn't just a political talking point—it's a matter of life and death.
Ready to hear the full story that's transforming how Americans view hospital care? Listen now to discover what really happened to Grace Schara and how you can protect yourself and your loved ones from the same fate.
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Dr. Jackson (00:04):
Welcome to More Than Medicine, where Jesus is
more than enough for the illsthat plague our culture and our
country, hosted by author andphysician, dr Robert Jackson,
and his wife Carlotta anddaughter Hannah Miller.
So listen up, because the doctoris in.
Welcome to More Than Medicine.
I'm your host, Dr RobertJackson, bringing to you
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biblical insights and storiesfrom the country doctor's rusty,
dusty scrapbook.
Well, I'm privileged andhonored today to have a new
friend of mine, Scott Schara,online with me today.
Scott, welcome to More ThanMedicine.
Well, thanks for having me, DrRobert.
It's a real pleasure to be here.
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Well, it's my privilege and mypleasure, Scott.
Now, before we even begin, I'mgoing to ask you, if you would,
to tell my listening audience alittle bit about yourself and
your family.
Tell them a little bit aboutwho you were in your former life
and what you're doing now inthis present life.
So I'll start with my formerlife first and then jump to the
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present, and then we'll rewindas to how we got to the present.
So my former life, I would sayI would describe myself as a
businessman with a healthydistrust of the government, and
I chased the American dream fora lot of my life.
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I missed a lot because of that.
Ultimately, that all had beguncoming to a close before our
daughter, grace, died in ahospital on October 13th of 2021
, but it definitely came to acomplete halt after her death.
And now I am on a full-timemission to save people's lives.
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Under Genesis 5020, which sayswhat God meant for good excuse
me, what you meant for evil Godmeant for good the saving of
many lives, which is happeningtoday.
And we're on a mission to savepeople's lives both physically
and spiritually, and God hasgiven us quite a platform to be
able to do that.
So you know if I jump back,which is how did we even get
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here?
It's interesting, as I thoughtabout our life and trying to
compress it in a short period oftime.
It's got to start with Grace'sbirth.
Grace was our third child andour last child.
She was born on September 22ndof 2002.
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2002.
At that point we had wonderedabout if we should have another
child.
And it was interesting becausewe found out you know, roughly I
would say eight years or sobefore that that we were one of
God's.
And so then, as you startwalking through that reality,
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you start questioning thingslike why do we only have two
kids?
And we realized that, you know,we were again chasing the
American dream.
We had 2.1 kids, 1.7 dogs, nocats, and you know all those
things.
And so we're 39 years old, mywife and I, and we decided to
turn the baby department over toGod, and on September 22nd of
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2002, he blessed us with alittle stinker who had Down
syndrome, and we named her Graceafter God's grace.
Amen amen.
It was amazing to you know, as Ithink about.
When she was first born we hadno idea she had Down syndrome.
When she came out of the wombshe looked different to me and I
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said to Cindy, who's my wife.
I said I think she has Downsyndrome.
And you know, this was ourfirst experience with the idea
of Down syndrome being negative.
You know, we were fine with it.
But the doctors came rushing inafter having a huddle and said
we suspect your daughter hasDown syndrome.
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Do you want to keep her?
And we were shocked by that,not knowing what they were even
talking about.
I believe they meant puttingher up for adoption.
We never got into that becausewe just said don't bother us
with this type of talk, we'renot interested in that.
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This is our daughter.
Ultimately, for the first coupleof years, how I looked at Grace
was through the eyes ofnegative.
So you know meaning that Iwould say to myself in quiet
time you know she's never goingto get married, she's never
going to drive a car, she's, youknow she's never going to do X,
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Y and Z, you know.
And ultimately she did allthose things other than getting
married because she just didn'tlive long enough, but what I
learned over a fairly shortperiod of time.
So after she turned two and youstarted to see what she was
capable of and how she didthings, it was mind-blowing and
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I got to the point where,towards the end of her life, I
got to the point where, towardsthe end of her life, I realized
I wish I had Down syndrome.
That sounds foolish.
I know, but it's not foolish,because people with Down
syndrome have something that westruggle with and what God calls
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us to do, which is to loveunconditionally.
That's right Grace lovedunconditionally.
That's right and grace lovedunconditionally.
That's right, I love it, you'reright Just to backfill a little
bit more.
And it was interesting.
When I look, you know, inhindsight you look at things
different and you know, you andI both know God is sovereign,
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that's right.
And so when you start lookingat things in hindsight, you see,
well, why did you know?
God knew exactly the situationas to how Grace was going to die
before she was ever born.
He knew he was going to use me,he was going to use Grace's
death to wake me up and use mefor what he's going, what he's
doing now.
I mean, he knew all thesethings, but there were so many
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steps now, when I look back, andreal milestones that I didn't
see at the time.
And we had, as I said, gracewas our third child, she was our
last child, and we had a son,travis, and we have a daughter,
Jessica, jessica's 35.
Travis would be 37.
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Jessica Jessica's 35, Traviswould be 37.
And you hear me say we had andwould be.
When Travis was 30, he lost hislife to suicide.
Oh no, I didn't know.
So as I see this now, afterdoing about 4,000 hours of
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research, I see that whole areais another one of the tentacles
that they're using in thepopulation control agenda.
This whole psychiatry,psychology movement got started
in the late 60s.
I went to kindergarten in 1968,and the programming in 68 said
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in the weekly readers that ifyou have more than two children
it's irresponsible.
We have a population problem.
If your parents have anelectric can opener, that's
irresponsible because they'reusing resources of the planet
that are going to run out.
So they're already pushing thepopulation reduction agenda in
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1968, along with the climatecontrol agenda to kindergartners
.
They're programming uskindergartners then.
Well, I'm sure thatsubconsciously influenced me and
ultimately that's why we didn'thave more children.
I mean, I wish we had ourquiver full, but we were blind
to it at that time.
And you know, ultimately, asI've studied I see the
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population control agenda becamepublic, although the public was
unaware of it.
It was a published document in1867, and psychology and
psychiatry was one of thoseareas.
One of those areas and Travis,our son, ended up being on meds
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that the psychiatrist prescribedand ultimately prescribed him a
contraindicated med that hadsuicide thoughts as a side
effect, and 30 days to the dayafter that med was prescribed,
travis lost his life to suicide.
So I see it as as another pieceof the medical industrial
complex now, as I've researched.
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So anyway, that was a stake inthe ground.
Then, prior to Travis's death, Ideveloped heart disease, or at
least I learned having heartdisease, and I I learned that,
um, the lies relative to thecause of heart disease are part
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of this situation also.
So they told me that you havehigh cholesterol and that's the
cause of your heart disease.
Well, I studied heart diseasefor a couple hundred hours then
and realized this is all a lieand the prescription they wanted
to give me, the statin, waspart of that lie.
Those were things I had learned, obviously before Grace was in
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the hospital, but it never madesense to me until after Grace
died and I started researchingand putting the pieces together.
So now, if we fast forward, wehomeschooled all three kids.
Grace went to kindergarten in aparochial school and then we
homeschooled her.
After that, grace never receiveda vaccination.
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We were awake to the idea ofvaccinations, not the psyop of
vaccinations, but believing thatwe should trust God instead of
man relative to vaccinations.
I've subsequently studiedvaccinations and now have
understood that no vaccinationhas ever been tested.
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It's all part of the populationreduction agenda, creating
boogeyman viruses, followed bytheir man solution of
vaccinations to deal with thefear caused by the bogeyman
viruses, I hear you.
So Grace never had the COVIDjab, none of that.
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And ultimately, now we roll intoOctober of 2021.
And I did not know about thevirology agenda at that point.
So when the governmentannounced the lockdowns and all
the things relative to covid, Ibought it, I believed the
propaganda and ultimately felltrap to the lesser of two evils
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and we'll get into this um a bitlater.
Uh, regarding what I've learnedsince grace's death.
But one of the main things I'velearned is how Satan uses
dialectics to give us twochoices, and both the choices
are evil.
So there's the evil propagandafrom the government, but then
the less evil solutions that arealso by design.
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So we were following thefrontline COVID critical care
doctors protocol in October of2021.
In fact, we were going to.
Grace had developed a cold inlate September of 21, and on
October 1st we were going to goto a wedding and we thought it
was our civic duty to test her,and that's another one of these
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things we've programmed tobelieve is that we have this
civic duty, so that's under thecollectivism lie, and so we
decided we'll test her.
Well, she tested positive forCOVID and so we did not go to
the wedding and we started theFLCCC protocol.
So she was on ivermectinvitamins and she was doing fine.
She just had cold symptoms.
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But the key thing that wepurchased was a pulse oximeter.
And we started measuring heroxygen saturation and I'll just
be blunt, that is a veryspecific thing that I had to
repent for, because fearmotivated me to buy that tool.
And when you have fear, youcheck out of your critical
thinking.
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Critical thinking would havetold me I have no baseline and
if I'm going to purchase thattool, I better do some research
beforehand, because I'mbasically measuring something
that I have no idea.
How does it even fit?
And now that I understand itand as you well know, I mean
it's common that oxygensaturation will drop into the
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high 80s when you have a cold orflu, and on October 6th,
grace's oxygen saturationdropped to 88%.
The protocol said that's anemergency.
Take her to the hospital, andwe did, and seven days later
Grace was dead.
We admitted her, or agreed toadmit her, to the hospital under
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the condition that I could staynumber one, and the ER
physician said we should admitGrace as a precautionary measure
.
We'll put her on oxygen and asteroid for three, four days and
then she'll be home.
I thought, well, that makessense.
Grace is my best buddy.
We're going to do whatever ittakes and ultimately, if they
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would have only done that, gracewould be alive today.
But what happened is they hadGrace start on a regular cannula
.
We got into the room shortlyafter midnight on October 7th.
Grace is on a regular cannula.
We got into the room shortlyafter midnight on October 7th.
Grace was on a regular cannulathroughout the day on the 7th.
It was just what I expected ofa typical hospital stay.
Grace and I were watchingmovies, joking around, just
having fun, and then theystarted their oxygen therapy
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protocol, which was first aVapotherm, which is a high-flow
cannula, and they have a way toturn it up.
Interestingly, I didn't evenknow she was on the high-flow
cannula, they didn't tell meanything.
And she's on the high-flowcannula.
They end up turning it up sothat you could hear whistling
coming out of her nose and thatreally bothered her.
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I mean, it would have botheredanybody.
And so in the process of thatbothering her, they suggested
well, we should switch to aBiPAP instead.
So there's a progression fromnasal cannula, high flow cannula
, to BiPAP and in that processthey sedated Grace to get her
comfortable with the BiPAP.
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Grace had a reaction to thesedation med, which was Presidex
combined with lorazepam, andthey had to turn the Presidex
down immediately.
Well, ultimately, grace thenext day is recovering, so I
thought I thought she was sleepy, but she's recovering from this
over sedation event, which Iwas not aware of.
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And she had a second event.
They started Presidex again andthis time it just about killed
her.
They had to use meds through acentral line to revive her.
Again, I didn't even know this.
I'm in the hospital with her,but I did not know it.
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And now we go to October 10th.
So remember, we started onOctober 6th in the ER, october
7th, first day in the room.
We get to the morning ofOctober 10th and the head nurse
showed up with an armed guardand said you need to leave
immediately.
And I said what's the reason?
She said well, the last threeshifts of nurses don't want you
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in the room.
And this was because I waschallenging feeding grace.
I was challenging their oxygennumbers because my oxygen meter
was not was reading 10 pointshigher than their meter and you
know.
So the nurses didn't like to bechallenged.
And the second thing she saidwas you've been shutting off the
alarms at night.
And of course that was acomplete lie.
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Why would I shut off alarms?
What I was doing was resettingthe alarms that were
nonessential, because thenursing staff trained me how to
do it.
And then, third, she said wesuspect you have COVID.
Train me how to do it.
And then, third, she said wesuspect you have COVID, which
was a complete joke, because thedoctor who was the hospitalist
in charge of Grace's care toldme I'm going to get COVID while
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I'm in the room.
I said I don't care, I'm herefor Grace, not me.
Ultimately, I was escorted out.
My wife was sick at the time soshe couldn't replace me.
We thought Jessica, ourdaughter, would replace me.
She tried to go to the hospital.
They wouldn't let her come in,so we ended up hiring an
attorney to get Jessica in theroom, and Grace was without an
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advocate at that point for 47hours.
During that 47-hour window,they increased the dose of
Presidex six different times.
They sedated Grace instead oftaking care of her.
As we roll forward to Grace'slast day on earth, just quickly,
the night before her last day,the evening of October 12th,
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grace is doing fine In spite ofat this point.
Through the medical records wesee that she's been on Presidex
for four full days.
The Presidex package insertsays specifically to not use the
drug for more than 24 hours orit causes acute respiratory
failure and it caused many otherside effects that are on the
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package insert that Grace had,but they completely ignored them
.
Grace called us on FaceTime andwe told her we loved her.
She told us she loved us.
She's doing this through aBiPAP.
She sat up in bed waving to hertwo nephews and yelling to them
Hi, boys, she's doing fine inspite of being sedated.
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As we rolled into October 13th,starting at midnight, they
started increasing precedentsbeyond the dosages that caused
over-sedation events on October7th and 8th.
Interestingly, we had a phonecall that started at 10, 12 in
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the morning on October 13th withthe doctor.
During that call, theyincreased precedents to the
maximum allowable dose at 1.4,which was 40% higher than the
dose that caused the previousoverdose events Simultaneous
with hanging up the call.
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At 10.55 the call, the call,and at 1056 the doctor put an
illegal do not resuscitate orderon grace's chart.
Um, it's hard to grasp what I'mgoing to tell you next, but
what they did after that duringthat call, uh, we approved a
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feeding tube.
The doctor told us Grace isdoing fine.
We need to get her bowelsmoving, we need to get her out
of bed.
Today, all these things endedup being not the truth, but we
approved a feeding tube based onhis recommendation and his
prognosis.
The nurse put a feeding tube inat about 1130 on the 13th.
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Before that she gave Gracelorazepam she had not based on
her deposition.
She said she never looked atthe prior record.
She didn't know Grace wasoverdosed.
She didn't know that Grace wasoverdosed on the combination of
Presidex and lorazepam.
When Grace's breathing startedto increase and our expert
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during the trial said that Gracewas experiencing metabolic
acidosis so she was increasingher breathing to get rid of the
carbon dioxide, the nurse, whohad 18 years of ICU experience,
gave her another dose oflorazepam at 546, another dose
at 549.
Lorazepam has a 12-hourhalf-life.
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So now she's got three doses oflorazepam along with the max
dose of Presidex, and thelorazepam dose is now 50% higher
than the dose when she had theoverdose events previously.
Unbelievably, grace's bloodpressure tanked to the point
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that at 6.08, she had no bloodpressure.
Now the doctor is in the roomwith Grace and instead of
realizing what's happening, hegave Grace morphine and he gave
Grace morphine at 615.
So now Grace has threecontraindicated meds in her
system.
The morphine package insertsaid you're not supposed to
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combine those meds because theycan cause death.
If you do, you're supposed tohave the reversal drug bedside
and directly monitor the patient.
That didn't happen.
To have the reversal drugbedside and directly monitor the
patient that didn't happen, infact.
What did happen?
They left Jessica in the room tomonitor Grace and Jess begged
the nurses to come in.
She knew something was going onwith Grace because she started
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getting cold.
Finally, jess called Cindy andI at 718, panicking, and she
said Dad, grace's numbers aredropping like crazy.
I said Get the nurses and shesaid grace's numbers are
dropping like crazy.
I said get the nurses and shesaid I've been trying.
They refused.
So now we're on this facetimecall and cindy and I on the call
start screaming to the nurseswho are outside the room and
jessica estimated about 30nurses because of shift change
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and we screamed save ourdaughter.
And they hollered back she'sDNR, do not resuscitate.
This is the first time we knewthat she was DNR and we screamed
back of course, she's not DNR,save our daughter.
And they refused.
They wouldn't come in the room.
At the trial we learned thatonly a doctor can reverse the
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DNR order, so that's what theystood on as far as their excuse
for not coming in the room andsaving Grace, and we watched her
die at 7.27 pm, nine minutesafter Jess called us on the
FaceTime call on October 13th of2021.
Oh my goodness, I don't evenknow what to say, scott, I'm
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shocked.
I'm just totally overwhelmed.
I understand, I'm overwhelmedjust telling the story again,
I'm overwhelmed.
What I found out is that, as Istarted digging and we'll get
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into this but I found out thatGrace was one of 1.2 million
people who died in the same orsimilar fashions in hospitals
during the 39-month COVID era,and the purpose of these
hospital deaths was simply tocreate the fear porn so that it
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would convince people to takethe jab.
That's exactly right To take thevaccine, the so-called vaccine.
The so-called vaccine.
Yeah, to increase the profitsfor the pharmaceutical industry.
Correct.
Exactly, oh my goodness gracious, exactly.
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Yep, oh, my goodness gracious.
Interestingly, what got usgoing?
So Cindy and I instantly got inthe car.
We drove to the hospital.
I stayed in the car, partiallybecause I was sick, partially
because I was kicked outpreviously, and Cindy went into
the hospital.
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Of course, at that point theydon't care about anything.
You know before you know ifsomebody's alive they won't let
you in or you've got to gown upin a spacesuit.
But now that Grace is dead, shecan walk right in through a
process of four hours.
You know they, jess and Cindygot Grace cleaned up.
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You know all the things you do.
The person from the funeralhome came, our pastor came and
what got us into the mode thatsomething nefarious happened was
one of the nurses walked Cindyout and she had Grace's
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belongings on a cart and Cindywas being pushed out in the
wheelchair by our pastor and sheleaned down and said Mrs Shara,
me and several of the nursesdon't think Grace should have
died today.
Oh, my goodness.
And that was the starting pointas to the research that
followed.
That got us into what we'redoing today.
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Oh my goodness, oh my goodness.
Well, my wife and I havediscussed this.
What little bit we learned andwhat we gleaned from our reading
about this on the Internet anda couple of stories in the print
media.
And, of course, we have twospecial needs boys and you know
they spent extended time in thehospital, both of them when they
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were young multiple surgeries,multiple surgeries, and you know
we discussed what we would havedone if we'd been excluded from
the hospital when they weregoing through all of their
surgeries and all of theirsickness.
And my friend Scott, I don'tknow if I would have been able
to control myself, if I wouldhave been able to deal with the
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emotional angst of beingexcluded from the hospital like
you were, and of course, youknow your hospital stay was 10
days, I guess, if I'munderstanding correctly.
But my boys were in the hospitalfor a year and a half and you
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know it was a very longexperience for the both of them.
And multiple surgeries, seriousheart surgeries, and if I had
not been able to be a part ofthat, I just don't know.
I would have been beside myselfand so I just my heart is just
broken to listen to your storyand to hear you tell about how.
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And it's not just you, I knowyou're right.
I know that there have beenliterally millions of people who
have experienced the same thingbecause of COVID and the
policies of hospitals.
My patients have told mesimilar stories.
My patients have told mesimilar stories.
My friends have told me similarstories of being excluded from
their parents or their childrenor their spouse while they were
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in the hospital because of COVID, hospital, covid policies and
it's just unbearable.
Well, with what I've learnedtoday, I realize that I still
trusted the white coat, andthat's why, when I was taken out
by the armed guard, I leftgrace.
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That was the first time we'veever left grace alone, but I
still had trust in the system,and so, of course, if I could
replay the event, I would havetaken Grace with me.
Yes.
She was fine and she'd be alivetoday if I would have taken her
home.
In fact, our expert at thetrial said the same.
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Yes yes, because she was fine.
I mean, I just thought you knowthis is where she needs to be
right now.
And what I would tell anybodylistening is you know to the
extent you can stay out of ahospital, you should, but if you
need to go into a advocate notallowing anybody to do anything
unless you approve it, don'twait for them to give you
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informed consent.
That's a lie that we've beensold and we found out at the
trial that informed consent isnot necessary.
In fact, what the jury decidedis you give implied consent when
you enter a hospital that'sright, and so the doctors have
no responsibility to tell youanything, and so that we got to
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take that back.
You know, if you go into ahospital, you take that back.
You have that right, um, tobodily autonomy, and so you
insist they do absolutelynothing unless you have approved
it, and if they don't obey whatyou are insisting on, you move
to another hospital.
First you request anotherdoctor and second you move to
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another hospital, because thatis the only way you're going to
survive a hospital stay is to bethe one in charge of your care.
That's right and you have to.
And doctors don't understandthat.
Doctors have this authoritarianperspective that they're in
charge and they don't respectyour medical freedom and your
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bodily autonomy.
And it's a slap in the face tomost physicians when they have a
patient who assumes control ofhis own medical care and I see
it all the time and when I havepatients who assume control.
I respect that, but mostphysicians do not and it's a
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real slap in their face whenthere's a patient who exerts
control over their own medicalcare.
And patients are not ignorant.
Patients know and theyunderstand.
Many of my patients are verywell educated about their
illness, about the options thatare available and the adverse
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effects of medications andmedical care, and doctors are
totally affronted by patientswho assume control over their
personal autonomy.
All right, well, listen, scott,our time is up for today.
Will you come back next weekand let us talk further about
this?
And I know that you have acalling and a ministry that
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you've stepped into because ofwhat's happened to Miss Grace.
Would you come back next weekand tell us all about that?
I would enjoy that very much.
All right, all right, well,you're listening to More Than
Medicine.
I'm your host, dr RobertJackson.
My guest today is Scott Shara.
He's the father of Grace Sharaand you heard this heartbreaking
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story, and I'm going to havehim back next week and he's
going to tell us about theministry that he's been called
into, which I think isfascinating, and he's going to
have a lot more to share withyou that I think you really are
going to want to hear.
All right, this is More ThanMedicine.
I'm your host, dr RobertJackson.
Remember, your doctor loves youand we'll be back again next
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week.
Till then, may the Lord blessyou real good.
Scott Schara (31:20):
Thank you for listening to this edition of
More Than Medicine.
For more information about theJackson Family Ministry or to
schedule a speaking engagement,go to their Facebook page,
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Also, don't forget to check outDr Jackson's books that are
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The Family Doctor Speaks theTruth About Life in his first
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book, and the Family DoctorSpeaks the Truth About Seed
Planting.
Equipping Believers forEvangelism is his second.
Welcome to More Than Medicine, where Jesus is
more than enough for the illsthat plague our culture and our
country, hosted by author andphysician, dr Robert Jackson,
and his wife Carlotta anddaughter Hannah Miller.
So listen up, because the doctoris in.
Welcome to More Than Medicine.
I'm your host, Dr RobertJackson, bringing to you
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biblical insights and storiesfrom the country doctor's rusty,
dusty scrapbook.
Well, I'm privileged andhonored today to have a new
friend of mine, Scott Schara,online with me today.
Scott, welcome to More ThanMedicine.
Well, thanks for having me, DrRobert.
It's a real pleasure to be here.
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Well, it's my privilege and mypleasure, Scott.
Now, before we even begin, I'mgoing to ask you, if you would,
to tell my listening audience alittle bit about yourself and
your family.
Tell them a little bit aboutwho you were in your former life
and what you're doing now inthis present life.
So I'll start with my formerlife first and then jump to the
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present, and then we'll rewindas to how we got to the present.
So my former life, I would sayI would describe myself as a
businessman with a healthydistrust of the government, and
I chased the American dream fora lot of my life.
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I missed a lot because of that.
Ultimately, that all had beguncoming to a close before our
daughter, grace, died in ahospital on October 13th of 2021
, but it definitely came to acomplete halt after her death.
And now I am on a full-timemission to save people's lives.
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Under Genesis 5020, which sayswhat God meant for good excuse
me, what you meant for evil Godmeant for good the saving of
many lives, which is happeningtoday.
And we're on a mission to savepeople's lives both physically
and spiritually, and God hasgiven us quite a platform to be
able to do that.
So you know if I jump back,which is how did we even get
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here?
It's interesting, as I thoughtabout our life and trying to
compress it in a short period oftime.
It's got to start with Grace'sbirth.
Grace was our third child andour last child.
She was born on September 22ndof 2002.
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2002.
At that point we had wonderedabout if we should have another
child.
And it was interesting becausewe found out you know, roughly I
would say eight years or sobefore that that we were one of
God's.
And so then, as you startwalking through that reality,
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you start questioning thingslike why do we only have two
kids?
And we realized that, you know,we were again chasing the
American dream.
We had 2.1 kids, 1.7 dogs, nocats, and you know all those
things.
And so we're 39 years old, mywife and I, and we decided to
turn the baby department over toGod, and on September 22nd of
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2002, he blessed us with alittle stinker who had Down
syndrome, and we named her Graceafter God's grace.
Amen amen.
It was amazing to you know, as Ithink about.
When she was first born we hadno idea she had Down syndrome.
When she came out of the wombshe looked different to me and I
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said to Cindy, who's my wife.
I said I think she has Downsyndrome.
And you know, this was ourfirst experience with the idea
of Down syndrome being negative.
You know, we were fine with it.
But the doctors came rushing inafter having a huddle and said
we suspect your daughter hasDown syndrome.
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Do you want to keep her?
And we were shocked by that,not knowing what they were even
talking about.
I believe they meant puttingher up for adoption.
We never got into that becausewe just said don't bother us
with this type of talk, we'renot interested in that.
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This is our daughter.
Ultimately, for the first coupleof years, how I looked at Grace
was through the eyes ofnegative.
So you know meaning that Iwould say to myself in quiet
time you know she's never goingto get married, she's never
going to drive a car, she's, youknow she's never going to do X,
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Y and Z, you know.
And ultimately she did allthose things other than getting
married because she just didn'tlive long enough, but what I
learned over a fairly shortperiod of time.
So after she turned two and youstarted to see what she was
capable of and how she didthings, it was mind-blowing and
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I got to the point where,towards the end of her life, I
got to the point where, towardsthe end of her life, I realized
I wish I had Down syndrome.
That sounds foolish.
I know, but it's not foolish,because people with Down
syndrome have something that westruggle with and what God calls
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us to do, which is to loveunconditionally.
That's right Grace lovedunconditionally.
That's right and grace lovedunconditionally.
That's right, I love it, you'reright Just to backfill a little
bit more.
And it was interesting.
When I look, you know, inhindsight you look at things
different and you know, you andI both know God is sovereign,
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that's right.
And so when you start lookingat things in hindsight, you see,
well, why did you know?
God knew exactly the situationas to how Grace was going to die
before she was ever born.
He knew he was going to use me,he was going to use Grace's
death to wake me up and use mefor what he's going, what he's
doing now.
I mean, he knew all thesethings, but there were so many
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steps now, when I look back, andreal milestones that I didn't
see at the time.
And we had, as I said, gracewas our third child, she was our
last child, and we had a son,travis, and we have a daughter,
Jessica, jessica's 35.
Travis would be 37.
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Jessica Jessica's 35, Traviswould be 37.
And you hear me say we had andwould be.
When Travis was 30, he lost hislife to suicide.
Oh no, I didn't know.
So as I see this now, afterdoing about 4,000 hours of
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research, I see that whole areais another one of the tentacles
that they're using in thepopulation control agenda.
This whole psychiatry,psychology movement got started
in the late 60s.
I went to kindergarten in 1968,and the programming in 68 said
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in the weekly readers that ifyou have more than two children
it's irresponsible.
We have a population problem.
If your parents have anelectric can opener, that's
irresponsible because they'reusing resources of the planet
that are going to run out.
So they're already pushing thepopulation reduction agenda in
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1968, along with the climatecontrol agenda to kindergartners
.
They're programming uskindergartners then.
Well, I'm sure thatsubconsciously influenced me and
ultimately that's why we didn'thave more children.
I mean, I wish we had ourquiver full, but we were blind
to it at that time.
And you know, ultimately, asI've studied I see the
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population control agenda becamepublic, although the public was
unaware of it.
It was a published document in1867, and psychology and
psychiatry was one of thoseareas.
One of those areas and Travis,our son, ended up being on meds
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that the psychiatrist prescribedand ultimately prescribed him a
contraindicated med that hadsuicide thoughts as a side
effect, and 30 days to the dayafter that med was prescribed,
travis lost his life to suicide.
So I see it as as another pieceof the medical industrial
complex now, as I've researched.
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So anyway, that was a stake inthe ground.
Then, prior to Travis's death, Ideveloped heart disease, or at
least I learned having heartdisease, and I I learned that,
um, the lies relative to thecause of heart disease are part
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of this situation also.
So they told me that you havehigh cholesterol and that's the
cause of your heart disease.
Well, I studied heart diseasefor a couple hundred hours then
and realized this is all a lieand the prescription they wanted
to give me, the statin, waspart of that lie.
Those were things I had learned, obviously before Grace was in
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the hospital, but it never madesense to me until after Grace
died and I started researchingand putting the pieces together.
So now, if we fast forward, wehomeschooled all three kids.
Grace went to kindergarten in aparochial school and then we
homeschooled her.
After that, grace never receiveda vaccination.
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We were awake to the idea ofvaccinations, not the psyop of
vaccinations, but believing thatwe should trust God instead of
man relative to vaccinations.
I've subsequently studiedvaccinations and now have
understood that no vaccinationhas ever been tested.
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It's all part of the populationreduction agenda, creating
boogeyman viruses, followed bytheir man solution of
vaccinations to deal with thefear caused by the bogeyman
viruses, I hear you.
So Grace never had the COVIDjab, none of that.
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And ultimately, now we roll intoOctober of 2021.
And I did not know about thevirology agenda at that point.
So when the governmentannounced the lockdowns and all
the things relative to covid, Ibought it, I believed the
propaganda and ultimately felltrap to the lesser of two evils
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and we'll get into this um a bitlater.
Uh, regarding what I've learnedsince grace's death.
But one of the main things I'velearned is how Satan uses
dialectics to give us twochoices, and both the choices
are evil.
So there's the evil propagandafrom the government, but then
the less evil solutions that arealso by design.
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So we were following thefrontline COVID critical care
doctors protocol in October of2021.
In fact, we were going to.
Grace had developed a cold inlate September of 21, and on
October 1st we were going to goto a wedding and we thought it
was our civic duty to test her,and that's another one of these
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things we've programmed tobelieve is that we have this
civic duty, so that's under thecollectivism lie, and so we
decided we'll test her.
Well, she tested positive forCOVID and so we did not go to
the wedding and we started theFLCCC protocol.
So she was on ivermectinvitamins and she was doing fine.
She just had cold symptoms.
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But the key thing that wepurchased was a pulse oximeter.
And we started measuring heroxygen saturation and I'll just
be blunt, that is a veryspecific thing that I had to
repent for, because fearmotivated me to buy that tool.
And when you have fear, youcheck out of your critical
thinking.
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Critical thinking would havetold me I have no baseline and
if I'm going to purchase thattool, I better do some research
beforehand, because I'mbasically measuring something
that I have no idea.
How does it even fit?
And now that I understand itand as you well know, I mean
it's common that oxygensaturation will drop into the
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high 80s when you have a cold orflu, and on October 6th,
grace's oxygen saturationdropped to 88%.
The protocol said that's anemergency.
Take her to the hospital, andwe did, and seven days later
Grace was dead.
We admitted her, or agreed toadmit her, to the hospital under
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the condition that I could staynumber one, and the ER
physician said we should admitGrace as a precautionary measure
.
We'll put her on oxygen and asteroid for three, four days and
then she'll be home.
I thought, well, that makessense.
Grace is my best buddy.
We're going to do whatever ittakes and ultimately, if they
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would have only done that, gracewould be alive today.
But what happened is they hadGrace start on a regular cannula
.
We got into the room shortlyafter midnight on October 7th.
Grace is on a regular cannula.
We got into the room shortlyafter midnight on October 7th.
Grace was on a regular cannulathroughout the day on the 7th.
It was just what I expected ofa typical hospital stay.
Grace and I were watchingmovies, joking around, just
having fun, and then theystarted their oxygen therapy
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protocol, which was first aVapotherm, which is a high-flow
cannula, and they have a way toturn it up.
Interestingly, I didn't evenknow she was on the high-flow
cannula, they didn't tell meanything.
And she's on the high-flowcannula.
They end up turning it up sothat you could hear whistling
coming out of her nose and thatreally bothered her.
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I mean, it would have botheredanybody.
And so in the process of thatbothering her, they suggested
well, we should switch to aBiPAP instead.
So there's a progression fromnasal cannula, high flow cannula
, to BiPAP and in that processthey sedated Grace to get her
comfortable with the BiPAP.
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Grace had a reaction to thesedation med, which was Presidex
combined with lorazepam, andthey had to turn the Presidex
down immediately.
Well, ultimately, grace thenext day is recovering, so I
thought I thought she was sleepy, but she's recovering from this
over sedation event, which Iwas not aware of.
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And she had a second event.
They started Presidex again andthis time it just about killed
her.
They had to use meds through acentral line to revive her.
Again, I didn't even know this.
I'm in the hospital with her,but I did not know it.
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And now we go to October 10th.
So remember, we started onOctober 6th in the ER, october
7th, first day in the room.
We get to the morning ofOctober 10th and the head nurse
showed up with an armed guardand said you need to leave
immediately.
And I said what's the reason?
She said well, the last threeshifts of nurses don't want you
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in the room.
And this was because I waschallenging feeding grace.
I was challenging their oxygennumbers because my oxygen meter
was not was reading 10 pointshigher than their meter and you
know.
So the nurses didn't like to bechallenged.
And the second thing she saidwas you've been shutting off the
alarms at night.
And of course that was acomplete lie.
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Why would I shut off alarms?
What I was doing was resettingthe alarms that were
nonessential, because thenursing staff trained me how to
do it.
And then, third, she said wesuspect you have COVID.
Train me how to do it.
And then, third, she said wesuspect you have COVID, which
was a complete joke, because thedoctor who was the hospitalist
in charge of Grace's care toldme I'm going to get COVID while
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I'm in the room.
I said I don't care, I'm herefor Grace, not me.
Ultimately, I was escorted out.
My wife was sick at the time soshe couldn't replace me.
We thought Jessica, ourdaughter, would replace me.
She tried to go to the hospital.
They wouldn't let her come in,so we ended up hiring an
attorney to get Jessica in theroom, and Grace was without an
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advocate at that point for 47hours.
During that 47-hour window,they increased the dose of
Presidex six different times.
They sedated Grace instead oftaking care of her.
As we roll forward to Grace'slast day on earth, just quickly,
the night before her last day,the evening of October 12th,
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grace is doing fine In spite ofat this point.
Through the medical records wesee that she's been on Presidex
for four full days.
The Presidex package insertsays specifically to not use the
drug for more than 24 hours orit causes acute respiratory
failure and it caused many otherside effects that are on the
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package insert that Grace had,but they completely ignored them
.
Grace called us on FaceTime andwe told her we loved her.
She told us she loved us.
She's doing this through aBiPAP.
She sat up in bed waving to hertwo nephews and yelling to them
Hi, boys, she's doing fine inspite of being sedated.
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As we rolled into October 13th,starting at midnight, they
started increasing precedentsbeyond the dosages that caused
over-sedation events on October7th and 8th.
Interestingly, we had a phonecall that started at 10, 12 in
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the morning on October 13th withthe doctor.
During that call, theyincreased precedents to the
maximum allowable dose at 1.4,which was 40% higher than the
dose that caused the previousoverdose events Simultaneous
with hanging up the call.
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At 10.55 the call, the call,and at 1056 the doctor put an
illegal do not resuscitate orderon grace's chart.
Um, it's hard to grasp what I'mgoing to tell you next, but
what they did after that duringthat call, uh, we approved a
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feeding tube.
The doctor told us Grace isdoing fine.
We need to get her bowelsmoving, we need to get her out
of bed.
Today, all these things endedup being not the truth, but we
approved a feeding tube based onhis recommendation and his
prognosis.
The nurse put a feeding tube inat about 1130 on the 13th.
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Before that she gave Gracelorazepam she had not based on
her deposition.
She said she never looked atthe prior record.
She didn't know Grace wasoverdosed.
She didn't know that Grace wasoverdosed on the combination of
Presidex and lorazepam.
When Grace's breathing startedto increase and our expert
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during the trial said that Gracewas experiencing metabolic
acidosis so she was increasingher breathing to get rid of the
carbon dioxide, the nurse, whohad 18 years of ICU experience,
gave her another dose oflorazepam at 546, another dose
at 549.
Lorazepam has a 12-hourhalf-life.
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So now she's got three doses oflorazepam along with the max
dose of Presidex, and thelorazepam dose is now 50% higher
than the dose when she had theoverdose events previously.
Unbelievably, grace's bloodpressure tanked to the point
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that at 6.08, she had no bloodpressure.
Now the doctor is in the roomwith Grace and instead of
realizing what's happening, hegave Grace morphine and he gave
Grace morphine at 615.
So now Grace has threecontraindicated meds in her
system.
The morphine package insertsaid you're not supposed to
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combine those meds because theycan cause death.
If you do, you're supposed tohave the reversal drug bedside
and directly monitor the patient.
That didn't happen.
To have the reversal drugbedside and directly monitor the
patient that didn't happen, infact.
What did happen?
They left Jessica in the room tomonitor Grace and Jess begged
the nurses to come in.
She knew something was going onwith Grace because she started
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getting cold.
Finally, jess called Cindy andI at 718, panicking, and she
said Dad, grace's numbers aredropping like crazy.
I said Get the nurses and shesaid grace's numbers are
dropping like crazy.
I said get the nurses and shesaid I've been trying.
They refused.
So now we're on this facetimecall and cindy and I on the call
start screaming to the nurseswho are outside the room and
jessica estimated about 30nurses because of shift change
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and we screamed save ourdaughter.
And they hollered back she'sDNR, do not resuscitate.
This is the first time we knewthat she was DNR and we screamed
back of course, she's not DNR,save our daughter.
And they refused.
They wouldn't come in the room.
At the trial we learned thatonly a doctor can reverse the
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DNR order, so that's what theystood on as far as their excuse
for not coming in the room andsaving Grace, and we watched her
die at 7.27 pm, nine minutesafter Jess called us on the
FaceTime call on October 13th of2021.
Oh my goodness, I don't evenknow what to say, scott, I'm
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shocked.
I'm just totally overwhelmed.
I understand, I'm overwhelmedjust telling the story again,
I'm overwhelmed.
What I found out is that, as Istarted digging and we'll get
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into this but I found out thatGrace was one of 1.2 million
people who died in the same orsimilar fashions in hospitals
during the 39-month COVID era,and the purpose of these
hospital deaths was simply tocreate the fear porn so that it
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would convince people to takethe jab.
That's exactly right To take thevaccine, the so-called vaccine.
The so-called vaccine.
Yeah, to increase the profitsfor the pharmaceutical industry.
Correct.
Exactly, oh my goodness gracious, exactly.
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Yep, oh, my goodness gracious.
Interestingly, what got usgoing?
So Cindy and I instantly got inthe car.
We drove to the hospital.
I stayed in the car, partiallybecause I was sick, partially
because I was kicked outpreviously, and Cindy went into
the hospital.
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Of course, at that point theydon't care about anything.
You know before you know ifsomebody's alive they won't let
you in or you've got to gown upin a spacesuit.
But now that Grace is dead, shecan walk right in through a
process of four hours.
You know they, jess and Cindygot Grace cleaned up.
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You know all the things you do.
The person from the funeralhome came, our pastor came and
what got us into the mode thatsomething nefarious happened was
one of the nurses walked Cindyout and she had Grace's
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belongings on a cart and Cindywas being pushed out in the
wheelchair by our pastor and sheleaned down and said Mrs Shara,
me and several of the nursesdon't think Grace should have
died today.
Oh, my goodness.
And that was the starting pointas to the research that
followed.
That got us into what we'redoing today.
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Oh my goodness, oh my goodness.
Well, my wife and I havediscussed this.
What little bit we learned andwhat we gleaned from our reading
about this on the Internet anda couple of stories in the print
media.
And, of course, we have twospecial needs boys and you know
they spent extended time in thehospital, both of them when they
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were young multiple surgeries,multiple surgeries, and you know
we discussed what we would havedone if we'd been excluded from
the hospital when they weregoing through all of their
surgeries and all of theirsickness.
And my friend Scott, I don'tknow if I would have been able
to control myself, if I wouldhave been able to deal with the
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emotional angst of beingexcluded from the hospital like
you were, and of course, youknow your hospital stay was 10
days, I guess, if I'munderstanding correctly.
But my boys were in the hospitalfor a year and a half and you
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know it was a very longexperience for the both of them.
And multiple surgeries, seriousheart surgeries, and if I had
not been able to be a part ofthat, I just don't know.
I would have been beside myselfand so I just my heart is just
broken to listen to your storyand to hear you tell about how.
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And it's not just you, I knowyou're right.
I know that there have beenliterally millions of people who
have experienced the same thingbecause of COVID and the
policies of hospitals.
My patients have told mesimilar stories.
My patients have told mesimilar stories.
My friends have told me similarstories of being excluded from
their parents or their childrenor their spouse while they were
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in the hospital because of COVID, hospital, covid policies and
it's just unbearable.
Well, with what I've learnedtoday, I realize that I still
trusted the white coat, andthat's why, when I was taken out
by the armed guard, I leftgrace.
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That was the first time we'veever left grace alone, but I
still had trust in the system,and so, of course, if I could
replay the event, I would havetaken Grace with me.
Yes.
She was fine and she'd be alivetoday if I would have taken her
home.
In fact, our expert at thetrial said the same.
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Yes yes, because she was fine.
I mean, I just thought you knowthis is where she needs to be
right now.
And what I would tell anybodylistening is you know to the
extent you can stay out of ahospital, you should, but if you
need to go into a advocate notallowing anybody to do anything
unless you approve it, don'twait for them to give you
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informed consent.
That's a lie that we've beensold and we found out at the
trial that informed consent isnot necessary.
In fact, what the jury decidedis you give implied consent when
you enter a hospital that'sright, and so the doctors have
no responsibility to tell youanything, and so that we got to
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take that back.
You know, if you go into ahospital, you take that back.
You have that right, um, tobodily autonomy, and so you
insist they do absolutelynothing unless you have approved
it, and if they don't obey whatyou are insisting on, you move
to another hospital.
First you request anotherdoctor and second you move to
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another hospital, because thatis the only way you're going to
survive a hospital stay is to bethe one in charge of your care.
That's right and you have to.
And doctors don't understandthat.
Doctors have this authoritarianperspective that they're in
charge and they don't respectyour medical freedom and your
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bodily autonomy.
And it's a slap in the face tomost physicians when they have a
patient who assumes control ofhis own medical care and I see
it all the time and when I havepatients who assume control.
I respect that, but mostphysicians do not and it's a
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real slap in their face whenthere's a patient who exerts
control over their own medicalcare.
And patients are not ignorant.
Patients know and theyunderstand.
Many of my patients are verywell educated about their
illness, about the options thatare available and the adverse
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effects of medications andmedical care, and doctors are
totally affronted by patientswho assume control over their
personal autonomy.
All right, well, listen, scott,our time is up for today.
Will you come back next weekand let us talk further about
this?
And I know that you have acalling and a ministry that
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you've stepped into because ofwhat's happened to Miss Grace.
Would you come back next weekand tell us all about that?
I would enjoy that very much.
All right, all right, well,you're listening to More Than
Medicine.
I'm your host, dr RobertJackson.
My guest today is Scott Shara.
He's the father of Grace Sharaand you heard this heartbreaking
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story, and I'm going to havehim back next week and he's
going to tell us about theministry that he's been called
into, which I think isfascinating, and he's going to
have a lot more to share withyou that I think you really are
going to want to hear.
All right, this is More ThanMedicine.
I'm your host, dr RobertJackson.
Remember, your doctor loves youand we'll be back again next
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week.
Till then, may the Lord blessyou real good.
Scott Schara (31:20):
Thank you for listening to this edition of
More Than Medicine.
For more information about theJackson Family Ministry or to
schedule a speaking engagement,go to their Facebook page,
instagram or webpage atjacksonfamilyministrycom.
Also, don't forget to check outDr Jackson's books that are
available on Amazon.
The Family Doctor Speaks theTruth About Life in his first
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book, and the Family DoctorSpeaks the Truth About Seed
Planting.
Equipping Believers forEvangelism is his second.
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