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June 25, 2025 16 mins

In this episode, host Julie Varner Walsh explores her idea of the “spiritual physics” – a concept through which she tries to make sense of the mess in the world – especially in politics, and in the way politics has come to affect our relationships with one another.

She believes there is a truth to human relationship that is both deeper than and counter to our basic human inclinations, and that this truth applies to both small-scale human relationships (like family, friendship, and community) and large-scale relationships (like politics, society, and international affairs). 

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