March 6, 2025 • 26 mins
Exploring Religion vs Spirituality: A Deep Dive - Mormon to Medium Podcast
Welcome to the Mormon to Medium podcast! Join Brad and Nan as they talk about the differences between religion and spirituality. In this episode, they delve into Nan's journey transitioning from Mormonism to a spiritual medium and explore how spirituality can exist independently of organized religion. They share personal anecdotes, including peaceful experiences in nature, meditative practices, and even a humorous reading from the Book of Mormon. Don't forget to hit that like and subscribe button to stay tuned for more enlightening and entertaining discussions!
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Nannette (00:00):
3, 2, 1.
Brad (00:02):
Three, two, one, three, two, one.
All right.
Hello and welcome.
This is the Mormon to mediumpodcast.
We're so glad you joined ustoday.
We're going to have a lot offun.
I've got a special surprise forNan.
Nannette (00:22):
Oh, gosh.
Brad (00:23):
Oh yeah, you're going to love this one.
Nannette (00:25):
I don't know.
I'm scared.
Brad (00:27):
And, uh, it should be a lot of fun.
So, uh, if you're joining usbrand new, I'm Brad.
Nannette (00:32):
I'm Nan.
And welcome.
We're so happy that you tookyour time to listen to us.
Brad (00:38):
Yeah, thanks for jumping on.
But make sure you hit that likeand subscribe button.
That really does help us out.
And let's talk religion today.
Nannette (00:48):
Oh boy.
Brad (00:49):
Because, you know, as you know, we like to talk
spirituality, religion, andNan's journey in becoming A
Mormon.
Nannette (00:56):
Mormon to medium, right?
You know, um, religion is a bigpart, you know, of a lot of
people's lives.
And trying to navigate religionand spirituality is kind of a
tough thing, because they kindof don't go together.
Brad (01:10):
go together.
What do you mean by religion andspirituality don't go together?
Because that seems like, thatseems like a Reese's Peanut
Butter Cup.
That's peanut butter andchocolate, right?
That, that's
Nannette (01:19):
Oh, now you're making me hungry.
Brad (01:20):
right?
Sounds good.
But that should go together.
So Chocolate and peanut butterTell me more.
Make me hungry, Nan.
You
Nannette (01:32):
to have religion.
You can have religion.
It's a man made thing.
Um, you can show up, you can goto church, you can read your
scriptures, you can pay yourtithing, you can attend the
temple, whatever.
You don't have to havespirituality, especially if you
count on the prophet, um, who'sleading the church to give you
the revelation you're supposedto have, right?
You don't have to have it.
Brad (01:53):
But,
Nannette (01:53):
You don't have to have religion to have the
spirituality.
You can have spirituality all byitself.
And that's who you are.
You are a spirit having a humanexperience.
Brad (02:04):
I don't need to have a building to have spirituality.
Nannette (02:07):
are the building.
But wait a minute.
Brad (02:09):
I feel so spiritual in the temple, right?
That you hear that all the time,like, right, like I've got this
great piece, this spiritualityin the temple.
Every time I go, I try to goevery week because I feel such
peace inside.
Nannette (02:22):
But don't you feel the same kind of peace if you were
to go and sit among the redwoodsor go to and sit at the edge of
the water of a lake or go to theocean or hike a mountain and sit
there in silence?
Um, don't you feel the exactsame way?
The exact same reverence andsilence and it, it's just
(02:44):
getting the mind quiet.
That's all it is.
And that's all you do in thetemple, is you let go of all the
outside world.
And you get quiet.
And if we would do that in ourworld, we're among the most
beautiful things ever.
Brad (02:59):
And that's a really good point because you go in there,
you leave your cell phone in alocker, you leave all of your
street clothes in a locker, uh,you change into your, your
little baker's uniform and yougo in there with a complete
different mindset.
So which you could literally doanywhere, but they've made it so
that you have to do it in thisopulent setting in order to.
(03:22):
Exactly.
Nannette (03:25):
it's because it's manmade and it's religion.
It's all about, you know,control and money and, you know,
keeping you going.
But when, remember when a coupleof weeks ago we were with our
kids and we went up, um, toZion's national park and we got
out of the car and we walkeddown into a wash and we were
walking in the sand where thewater would normally run.
(03:47):
We love to look for rocks anddifferent kinds of things in
the, Sand.
Do you remember how quiet it wasand how peaceful it was and how
we just sat there for probablyan hour and a half or two hours,
just silent.
And even our puppy
Brad (04:01):
all four of us in voodoo.
Nannette (04:03):
yeah, we were just silent and it was, it was the
best church because you can bequiet with your own thoughts,
with your own heart.
You can get, there's no onetelling you what to do or what
to feel or what to think.
You're one with your source andthat's the best church.
Brad (04:19):
Well, and Yuki and Britton were so, you know, just enamored
with the rocks and they, I thinkthey had so much fun.
They're little rock hounds.
Nannette (04:27):
out in nature, we're part of nature.
We're made of the same thingsthat beautiful nature is made
of.
And so we're just
Brad (04:36):
that beautiful nature is made of.
And so we're just
Nannette (04:39):
at one where.
We're one with our creator.
And I think that that's evenmore important to realize that
we don't have to go to a templeor a building because we are the
temple.
We are the building.
And that's much more important.
Um, when we can turn thatfreeway off in our brains and
let our phones go, um, and calmthe energy around us and just be
(05:03):
at one with creation, um, youget a lot of downloads, a lot of
beautiful things can comethrough from the other side.
Brad (05:09):
Yeah, after somebody listens to the podcast, they
should totally put their phoneaway.
But not until after they consumethis show.
Once that's done, then yeah, putyour phone away and go
Nannette (05:20):
with your friends.
Brad (05:22):
Share it with your friends, like them, subscribe,
all the things.
Um, but no, on a very seriousnote.
Nannette (05:27):
what
Brad (05:28):
What does it take to get in that meditative state?
I know that I've heard you talkabout helping clients before,
you know, who were like, I don'tknow where to start.
How do you start?
Nannette (05:41):
Um, you could start by lots of different things.
I think, I think the big thingis to get quiet in your mind,
you know, whether you'rejournaling your thoughts down.
Um, that's what I like to dowhen I'm super stressed and I
feel overwhelmed.
Um, I like to write my thoughtsdown and then kind of.
Mold them over, read over themjust so it's a mind dump and I'm
(06:02):
not walking around with allthese crazy thoughts in my head,
you know, stressing me out.
Then I can look at it from adifferent perspective, a more
calm perspective because it'snot all jumbled in my head.
But I mean, you could, you couldjournal.
Um, I personally, I love, love,love.
I love to meditate.
I love at night before I go tobed.
I love to fill my bath full ofsuper hot water and I love to
(06:24):
get in there with sea salt inthere and vinegar in there and
change the pH so it removes allnegative energy and I, I connect
with the other side.
Ask my team questions.
I ask them to guide me.
Um, I will pray in that spot.
Um, when I miss Corey, I'll askhim to come to me and I've even
(06:46):
had the honor and the privilegeof, sorry,
Brad (06:51):
You're okay.
Nannette (06:52):
I got to see my new little grand baby girl.
And I got to meet her and she'sso fun.
And, um, when my beautifuldaughter was just here, I got to
feel her kick my hand.
So, um, super cool, super cool.
Um, meditation is the very bestand you can't, you can't just
start meditating.
You have, you have to takelittle bits at a time, you know,
Brad (07:15):
Um, well, I think you can start meditating.
You just can't go.
I'm gonna sit there for an
Nannette (07:19):
an hour.
Yeah.
So do you like three minutes?
Um, there is a speaker set thatI always use.
They're called now speakers andthey do Tibetan bowls and they
vibrate in your hands.
And, um, so it's kind of, it'sa, it's a touch experience and a
sound experience, but they,they, yeah,
Brad (07:39):
go ahead and just turn them on.
Nannette (07:42):
they're amazing.
It's kind of like yoga for thebrain.
And, um, these will go for threeminutes.
But you just concentrate on thebowl and the vibration in the
hand.
Brad (08:00):
And they'll bounce back and forth between each other.
It's almost like what EMDRfocuses on.
It's like a little home EMDRset, almost.
It's very cool.
Um, but we both use these thingsall the time.
They're awesome.
Nannette (08:15):
Well, and I've had people that have come into my
office and have just laid on thetable and I put this on each
side of their ears and they justlay there and it calms them
right down.
It takes them from super, superstressed to a zero like, Oh my
gosh, I could almost fall asleepright now.
But.
Learning to calm that freeway inour brain because we were so
inundated with electronics and,you know, all of the news and
(08:38):
all of the things and all thepeople's energy were feeling
each other so much more thesedays, um, to be able to shut
that off and just be one.
With the other side and with theelements.
Um, it's just such a beautiful,beautiful place to be.
But it takes practice.
It takes doing it every singleday.
Brad (08:56):
Yeah.
Well, and so what I'm learningtoo from you is it's okay to
have an aid, something to helpyou through it, whether it's an
app on your phone that talks youthrough a meditation or
something like the, these, youknow, now speakers that, that do
it with you.
Um, it's okay to have a help.
It's not something where youjust have to jump into it and
go, Oh my God, please mind
Nannette (09:16):
be quiet.
No.
Because you're
Brad (09:18):
going, okay, my mind, at least for me.
I bounce to all these thingsthat I have to do with work,
with home, with, okay, I'm doingthis remodel job here and oh my
gosh, at work, I've got totravel here and here.
And it's hard to keep quiet.
Nannette (09:33):
And that's where the practice comes in because that's
completely natural for your mindto bounce to different thoughts.
But what you do is you recognizethe thought and bring it back to
the breath.
You recognize the thought, bringit back to the breath.
Um, or if you fall asleep.
That's okay to fall asleep.
That means you're tired.
Your mind will, yoursubconscious mind will still
(09:54):
take in the meditation and it's,it's really, really cool, but
it's okay to not be perfect atit.
And I still do guidedmeditations.
I'm really good at doing my ownmeditation, especially before I
go in with a client.
But um, I will do a guidedmeditation.
I did an awesome one a couple ofweeks ago about abundance and
um, the, the person taking methrough it.
(10:16):
Kind of described a morningwhere you're laying in your bed,
and you're just waking up, and
Brad (10:22):
the Sun
Nannette (10:23):
are coming through the white curtains, and the sun's
starting to shine, and like allthe details you could see, and
then all of a sudden you go tothe window, and you open the
window, and then it starts torain.
Little tiny gold coins.
And then you go out into therain and these gold coins start
to, um, land on the ground allaround you.
So you open your hands and theystart to land in your hands.
(10:45):
And then as you start to walk,you look off in the distance and
there is a green cloud comingtowards you and it's full of
money and like all these detailsof abundance and wealth and
things coming and like.
Brad (10:57):
why did my whole vision of that just go to Mario Brothers?
Nannette (11:00):
I haven't seen it.
You
Brad (11:02):
dun dun dun
Nannette (11:03):
see him
Brad (11:05):
bouncing.
Jump in and grabbing the coins.
Oh my god.
That, seriously, that's where mymind
Nannette (11:11):
Of course it did.
Of course it did.
Brad (11:13):
did.
Nannette (11:13):
14.
Brad (11:14):
it did.
Nannette (11:15):
a gamer though.
I am not a gamer.
But I do, I love playing MarioKart though.
It is fun.
But yeah, I even do guidedmeditations.
I did a guided meditation onceor twice to find my spare
animals, um, because I wascurious.
I kind of had an idea, but forthem to show up in a meditation
is really cool because you getto actually meet them and hear
(11:35):
their thoughts, which is really,really cool.
So I'm guided meditations, aplus do those.
Absolutely.
Do those.
There's lots of apps out therethat we can do free ones.
YouTube has some, um, you caneven do like binary, binaural,
um, beats like drum beats orflute sounds or things like
that, that will help youmeditate as well.
(11:57):
It just depends on what you'reup for, but if you only have
three minutes, do three minutes
Brad (12:02):
Gotcha.
Yeah.
So it's three minutes a longtime?
Well, look, let me, let mesurprise you with what I was
talking about
Nannette (12:13):
geez.
I'm so nervous.
Brad (12:17):
Bam.
Nannette (12:18):
No, you did
Brad (12:19):
Oh yeah, I did.
Nannette (12:21):
He's getting serious.
He's got his
Brad (12:22):
I've got my readers on because I'm old
Nannette (12:25):
Are you for real?
Brad (12:26):
I am.
This is the real deal.
So in Mormonism, this is knownas.
The quad, and only the mostspiritual people actually own a
quad.
Nannette (12:37):
Really?
Cause there's a lot of 12 yearolds that own quads.
Brad (12:40):
here's the thing.
This is a status symbol withinthe Mormon community.
If you have to carry all ofthem.
That's four books that you'recarrying around, you know, you
got, well, even more if yousplit it up, usually the
Bible's, you know, one book,then you've got your book of
Mormon, your pearl of greatprice and, uh, your doctrine and
(13:01):
covenants.
So you're carrying around all ofthese different books.
If you're really cool and reallyspiritual, you have a quad.
Um,
Nannette (13:10):
Dude, though, you know, I got that in one of those
for seminary in high school, andin seminary, you're only using
like just the Book of Mormonpart or just the Doctrine and
Covenants part or just theBible.
Brad (13:24):
SE seminary.
Yeah, because I got the Bibleand then I got a book of Mormon
and a DNC and Pearl of GreatPrice, but I, I didn't get a
quad.
I had'em all separated.
Nannette (13:35):
I
Brad (13:36):
guess I didn't really go all the way through seminary.
I really only just got the Biblebecause that's the seminary
part.
I did initially when I was inhigh school, I was like, this is
a waste of time.
Nannette (13:48):
Well, and I had my kids get the quad too for, um,
for seminary, but I always hatedthat I had to carry around all
the extra books when we wereonly studying this one, one
book.
It was like, it's such a pain inthe butt.
It's like trying to carry yourEnglish book and your math book
and all of your other books allat the same time.
It's like, Oh, come on.
Brad (14:08):
a lot of people are like, well, I don't want to read the
Book of Mormon, but I'mwondering what it says.
And I, I was looking at it todayand I am going to
Nannette (14:17):
Is that a scripture mastery card?
Brad (14:19):
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like, these are greatbookmarks cause you can use them
to highlight things with.
Um, But I am going to read themost read scripture in all of
the book of Mormon.
Nannette (14:34):
I bet I can quote it with you.
I bet you can.
It
Brad (14:39):
goes like this.
Nannette (14:40):
born of goodly parents.
Brad (14:42):
Nan's got it right.
Nan's got it right.
I, Nephi.
Some people pronounce it Nephi.
That's how you can tell ifsomebody's from Utah or not.
If they say Nephi, becausethere's a town called Nephi in
Utah.
If somebody calls it Nephi, theyare not from Utah.
Nannette (15:00):
If
Brad (15:01):
true.
If they're from Utah, they sayNephi.
I, Nephi, having been born ofgoodly parents.
You are saying that.
Oh yeah, goodly parents.
What is a goodly parent?
Seriously.
Do we have, let's see if we havesomething down here.
What does it say?
(15:21):
Um, it refers us to Proverbs 22one
Nannette (15:27):
And you have a quad so you can go
Brad (15:28):
talking about the birth, right?
So I, Nephi, having been born ofgoodly parents, therefore I was
taught somewhat in all thelearning of my father.
And having seen many afflictionsin the course of my days,
nevertheless,
Nannette (15:45):
Yes.
Nevertheless, having
Brad (15:51):
been highly favored of the Lord in all my days.
Yay.
Having had a great knowledge ofthe goodness.
And the mysteries of God.
Therefore I make a record of myproceedings in my days.
So this is Nephi.
This is the guy who's like, Hey,I'm writing this shit because I
(16:11):
am awesome.
He starts it off, right?
Nephi is the OG of the Mormonreligion.
Nannette (16:18):
It's true.
Brad (16:18):
He is.
He's the one everyone loves.
Now.
His dad was pretty cool, but notas cool as him
Nannette (16:24):
It's true.
Brad (16:25):
and so everyone's like, Oh, Nephi.
Oh my God, Nephi.
Yes, he did.
That's actually an interestingstory because murder is okay.
It establishes it very well.
Murder is okay in the light ofreligion.
Nannette (16:41):
I mean, seriously, even Dexter has, like, a code.
Dexter
Brad (16:45):
a code.
Nephi also had a code.
So here's, here's a verse that Ithink was really interesting
though.
And I, I read this and I'm like,why did he have to say that?
This seems like, okay, let mejust read it and then we'll talk
about it.
(17:07):
Okay, first I'm going to read,I'm going to read two.
So I read the first one, blah,blah, blah.
Number two.
Yay.
I, and just the way they talk,right?
It's like, it seems verycontrived.
Anyway.
Yay.
I make a record in the languageof my father.
Nannette (17:23):
My father.
Brad (17:28):
I'm sorry guys, that's an inside joke that we just can't
really explain, but it'shilarious to us.
Nannette (17:34):
uh,
Brad (17:35):
Which consists of the learning of the Jews and the
language of the Egyptians.
So, he's teaching about the Jewsin the language of the
Egyptians.
So, that was one of the thingsis, oh, this was reformed
Egyptian, you know, that's beingtranslated, right?
Nannette (17:52):
Right.
The book of Abraham is supposedto be reformed Egyptian.
Yeah.
Brad (17:56):
And this is the one that really gets me.
And I know that the record whichI make is true.
And I make it with my own handand I make it according to my
knowledge.
So,
Nannette (18:10):
Oh, wow.
Yeah,
Brad (18:12):
this is true.
You just believe this.
This is true.
So let me ask you this.
Do you remember driving upSpanish Fork Canyon and around
Covered Bridge, there was alwaysa guy across the way selling the
best beef jerky in the world.
Nannette (18:30):
Yes, it was.
Brad (18:32):
No, it wasn't.
It was horrible.
That's what the sign said.
But was it the best?
No, it was shit.
Kind of.
Nannette (18:40):
shit.
Brad (18:41):
Well, it was shit kind of like in elf when he goes, Oh, I
found the best cup of coffee inthe world.
And he, he has Zoe taste it.
And she's like, it tastes like areally crappy cup of coffee.
Nannette (18:53):
If
Brad (18:54):
you have to say this is the best one in the world, it's
probably not true.
And.
Nannette (19:00):
That's a good point.
Yeah.
Brad (19:01):
when I'm reading that now, it's almost like, Hey, look at
this.
This is the truth.
This, I swear to God, this istrue.
I'm writing this.
It's true.
And it's all of my experiences.
Nannette (19:12):
Well, additionally, if you think about it, when you
were 20 years old, what you knewis completely different at you
at 50.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
And so you may be like, I mean,I remember thinking that the
church was completely true.
Absolutely.
And I'd stick my life on it.
There was a point in my lifewhere that was me.
But, um, you take me at 58 and,um, yeah, no, no,
Brad (19:37):
Yeah, different story,
Nannette (19:38):
So I, I, I think you need to take into consideration
his age and what has.
He, he gone through in his life,probably not so much.
Brad (19:46):
Or, or take into consideration that this was
written by Joseph Smith and he'strying to make sure everyone
believes that it's true.
So how, how do I make it sopeople believe this is true?
I know
Nannette (20:00):
going to tell them it
Brad (20:01):
I'll tell them it's true in the book and then they'll
have to believe it.
That's
Nannette (20:06):
That's a good
Brad (20:07):
Right?
Yeah.
So, that was just something.
Gosh, I almost want to startanother page where I just read
the Book of Mormon.
I would so.
How about that
Nannette (20:14):
How about that be a different podcast?
Brad (20:16):
I mean.
Just another podcast.
We'll call it Mormon Readings.
Right?
Brad Reads.
is there a book you would liketo hear me read?
Let me know other than the bookof Mormon.
I'm sure there's something outthere.
Um, no.
(20:37):
So that's, I wanted to read thatbecause it bothered me.
I was thinking about it theother day and I'm like, wait a
minute.
Why would you have to tellsomebody how true this was
Nannette (20:47):
Right.
Brad (20:47):
instead of just going, here's the story.
Here's, here's what happened.
This, this is what happened.
I don't need to tell you it'strue.
Um, But essentially it goes onand, and yeah, there's a lot
here.
There's a lot.
We could literally walk, talkabout this for, for days and
read this for days.
But let me ask you, Nan, when itcomes to that giant ass book,
(21:13):
and obviously the book of Mormonis not that big and usually it's
not that big.
I just have the large fontbecause.
Why not, right?
Eventually you'll need it, soget the large font.
Um, What do you think of thatbig book?
Is it the most correct book onearth, as once was proclaimed by
(21:33):
a prophet?
Nannette (21:36):
You know, um, P R O F I T, prophet,
Brad (21:41):
More now than ever.
Nannette (21:42):
Yeah.
You know, I, I would absolutely100 percent say no.
Just because there's nohistorical, um, or
archeological, um, evidence of,of this.
Brad (21:56):
Yeah.
Nannette (21:57):
And, um, I, I even remember us going to Mexico for
the very first time and, and ourguide was LDS and he was trying
to make the Book of Mormon fitinto these ruins that we were
seeing and stuff.
And it just didn't, it didn'tgo, it didn't, it didn't fit.
It
Brad (22:14):
all.
Well, there were certain thingsthat were similar, right?
And so based on confirmationbias, you go, Oh my God, yeah,
that is so accurate.
That just goes right along withthe temple and look, they're
wearing an apron just like wewould in the temple.
Um, so you, you look at it andyou go, yeah, that's definitely
got to be true.
Nannette (22:35):
Yeah, I think it's a stretch.
I think it's a big stretch.
I think that a lot of the quoteunquote manmade religions, um,
they, they talked, you know,people traveled, like, um.
Yeah, but the fact that thereisn't any historical evidence,
there's no
Brad (22:54):
Giant battlefields with millions of people who were
murdered?
Nannette (22:57):
No, no,
Brad (23:00):
No
Nannette (23:00):
not to mention the horses.
And I mean, it's just, it's sad.
Brad (23:06):
Iron.
Nannette (23:07):
Yeah, I think, I think there's a reason why so many
people have started first Nephi35 times and not gotten through
the first Nephi Or the Book ofMormon, because it's like, it's,
they can feel that it's not truethough.
That's the
Brad (23:24):
thing.
And here's maybe how they shouldsell it initially.
Go, look, this book's got somefun stories in it, you should
read it.
Oh, and when you get to thatreally boring chapter, don't
worry about it, just skip it.
Exactly.
Well, what
Nannette (23:36):
Well, what if it were movies?
Oh my gosh, there would be somepretty raunchy ratings that a
lot of Mormons couldn't watch.
Yeah,
Brad (23:44):
Mormons couldn't watch their own book,
Nannette (23:46):
No!
Brad (23:46):
they can read about it.
Nannette (23:47):
Right?
Brad (23:48):
But they can't read that, what is it, Court of Thorns?
What is the,
Nannette (23:52):
Thorns and Roses.
Brad (23:53):
and Roses, yeah.
Everyone thinks, oh look, mywife's reading fantasy novels.
She loves the fairies.
No, that's porn.
Nannette (24:02):
is porn.
Oh my gosh, you only read onelove scene.
Oh my
Brad (24:07):
Um, yeah, one out of a whole book full of them.
And it made me blush.
Nannette (24:12):
blush.
It did
Brad (24:13):
I was like, Holy shit.
Oh yes, it did.
Nannette (24:17):
did not.
It takes a lot to make
Brad (24:18):
Exactly my point.
Nannette (24:20):
were like, whoa.
Brad (24:21):
Yeah, it made me blush.
So when you see your wivesreading that or your ladies
reading that,
Nannette (24:26):
ladies reading that, Mm hmm.
Yeah.
Nope.
Brad (24:30):
not reading it for the fairies.
Nannette (24:32):
my gosh!
Brad (24:35):
Look,
Nannette (24:35):
I didn't know, I didn't know it bothered you so
much,
Brad (24:37):
oh it doesn't bother me, I think it's funny.
Nan's face is going red becauseshe knows, she's like, oh yeah,
I read that.
Nannette (24:43):
I did.
The funny part is my daughterread it with me.
She's the one that told me toread it.
It's a very good series.
It really, really is.
Brad (24:53):
Yeah, I believe you.
Hey, and it's your story.
You want to read softcore porn?
I don't care.
Nannette (24:59):
Whatever.
Yeah, honey.
Brad (25:04):
So, so that's what, that's what I've got for folks today.
You know, my, maybe that's whatwe need to do on a regular
basis.
Now.
We'll just read a, a verse fromthe Book of Mormon, each show.
Nannette (25:13):
of Mormon
Brad (25:15):
Are you sure?
It would be fun.
All right.
We don't have to, but
Nannette (25:18):
sure?
Alright.
I'll read
Brad (25:21):
read a book, a Mormon verse and you can draw a
Nannette (25:23):
You can draw
Brad (25:25):
want to draw a tarot card right
Nannette (25:26):
right now.
Brad (25:27):
Oh, you're prepared as you need to be.
Nannette (25:29):
you need to be.
That's
Brad (25:32):
That's alright.
Pull it.
Pull a card.
Any card.
Let's see what the month
Nannette (25:37):
Month
Brad (25:40):
Yep, let's pull a card for the month of March.
Nannette (25:43):
March?
Brad (25:46):
there to the camera.
Oh, what does that mean?
Nannette (25:50):
I don't know what it says.
It's an eagle, I know that.
Brad (25:52):
it around and
Nannette (25:55):
Ha! Embrace spirit, bitches! Ha ha! Did we not just
talk about this?
Yeah.
And actually, an eagle is myspirit animal as well, too.
Brad (26:07):
is my spirit animal as well, too.
Card for the week.
Nannette (26:14):
Yes.
Yeah.
Get to know who you are as aspirit and step into your
spiritual path.
You guys, life is so much richerwhen you're able to do that and
you're not reactive to theoutside world.
You're coming from a place ofpeace and calm.
So highly recommend.
Brad (26:30):
I love it.
Thank you so much everyone forsticking around listening to us.
Uh, sorry if I traumatizedanybody or brought up old wounds
by reading the Book
Nannette (26:39):
I need a Xanax.
Brad (26:39):
Yeah, especially you.
Sorry now.
Uh, but thanks again everybody.
We sure appreciate it.
Please remember, like andsubscribe.
Uh, we love you and we'll seeyou
Nannette (26:49):
on the other side of the veil.
Brad (26:53):
Hmm, hmm,
3, 2, 1.
Brad (00:02):
Three, two, one, three, two, one.
All right.
Hello and welcome.
This is the Mormon to mediumpodcast.
We're so glad you joined ustoday.
We're going to have a lot offun.
I've got a special surprise forNan.
Nannette (00:22):
Oh, gosh.
Brad (00:23):
Oh yeah, you're going to love this one.
Nannette (00:25):
I don't know.
I'm scared.
Brad (00:27):
And, uh, it should be a lot of fun.
So, uh, if you're joining usbrand new, I'm Brad.
Nannette (00:32):
I'm Nan.
And welcome.
We're so happy that you tookyour time to listen to us.
Brad (00:38):
Yeah, thanks for jumping on.
But make sure you hit that likeand subscribe button.
That really does help us out.
And let's talk religion today.
Nannette (00:48):
Oh boy.
Brad (00:49):
Because, you know, as you know, we like to talk
spirituality, religion, andNan's journey in becoming A
Mormon.
Nannette (00:56):
Mormon to medium, right?
You know, um, religion is a bigpart, you know, of a lot of
people's lives.
And trying to navigate religionand spirituality is kind of a
tough thing, because they kindof don't go together.
Brad (01:10):
go together.
What do you mean by religion andspirituality don't go together?
Because that seems like, thatseems like a Reese's Peanut
Butter Cup.
That's peanut butter andchocolate, right?
That, that's
Nannette (01:19):
Oh, now you're making me hungry.
Brad (01:20):
right?
Sounds good.
But that should go together.
So Chocolate and peanut butterTell me more.
Make me hungry, Nan.
You
Nannette (01:32):
to have religion.
You can have religion.
It's a man made thing.
Um, you can show up, you can goto church, you can read your
scriptures, you can pay yourtithing, you can attend the
temple, whatever.
You don't have to havespirituality, especially if you
count on the prophet, um, who'sleading the church to give you
the revelation you're supposedto have, right?
You don't have to have it.
Brad (01:53):
But,
Nannette (01:53):
You don't have to have religion to have the
spirituality.
You can have spirituality all byitself.
And that's who you are.
You are a spirit having a humanexperience.
Brad (02:04):
I don't need to have a building to have spirituality.
Nannette (02:07):
are the building.
But wait a minute.
Brad (02:09):
I feel so spiritual in the temple, right?
That you hear that all the time,like, right, like I've got this
great piece, this spiritualityin the temple.
Every time I go, I try to goevery week because I feel such
peace inside.
Nannette (02:22):
But don't you feel the same kind of peace if you were
to go and sit among the redwoodsor go to and sit at the edge of
the water of a lake or go to theocean or hike a mountain and sit
there in silence?
Um, don't you feel the exactsame way?
The exact same reverence andsilence and it, it's just
(02:44):
getting the mind quiet.
That's all it is.
And that's all you do in thetemple, is you let go of all the
outside world.
And you get quiet.
And if we would do that in ourworld, we're among the most
beautiful things ever.
Brad (02:59):
And that's a really good point because you go in there,
you leave your cell phone in alocker, you leave all of your
street clothes in a locker, uh,you change into your, your
little baker's uniform and yougo in there with a complete
different mindset.
So which you could literally doanywhere, but they've made it so
that you have to do it in thisopulent setting in order to.
(03:22):
Exactly.
Nannette (03:25):
it's because it's manmade and it's religion.
It's all about, you know,control and money and, you know,
keeping you going.
But when, remember when a coupleof weeks ago we were with our
kids and we went up, um, toZion's national park and we got
out of the car and we walkeddown into a wash and we were
walking in the sand where thewater would normally run.
(03:47):
We love to look for rocks anddifferent kinds of things in
the, Sand.
Do you remember how quiet it wasand how peaceful it was and how
we just sat there for probablyan hour and a half or two hours,
just silent.
And even our puppy
Brad (04:01):
all four of us in voodoo.
Nannette (04:03):
yeah, we were just silent and it was, it was the
best church because you can bequiet with your own thoughts,
with your own heart.
You can get, there's no onetelling you what to do or what
to feel or what to think.
You're one with your source andthat's the best church.
Brad (04:19):
Well, and Yuki and Britton were so, you know, just enamored
with the rocks and they, I thinkthey had so much fun.
They're little rock hounds.
Nannette (04:27):
out in nature, we're part of nature.
We're made of the same thingsthat beautiful nature is made
of.
And so we're just
Brad (04:36):
that beautiful nature is made of.
And so we're just
Nannette (04:39):
at one where.
We're one with our creator.
And I think that that's evenmore important to realize that
we don't have to go to a templeor a building because we are the
temple.
We are the building.
And that's much more important.
Um, when we can turn thatfreeway off in our brains and
let our phones go, um, and calmthe energy around us and just be
(05:03):
at one with creation, um, youget a lot of downloads, a lot of
beautiful things can comethrough from the other side.
Brad (05:09):
Yeah, after somebody listens to the podcast, they
should totally put their phoneaway.
But not until after they consumethis show.
Once that's done, then yeah, putyour phone away and go
Nannette (05:20):
with your friends.
Brad (05:22):
Share it with your friends, like them, subscribe,
all the things.
Um, but no, on a very seriousnote.
Nannette (05:27):
what
Brad (05:28):
What does it take to get in that meditative state?
I know that I've heard you talkabout helping clients before,
you know, who were like, I don'tknow where to start.
How do you start?
Nannette (05:41):
Um, you could start by lots of different things.
I think, I think the big thingis to get quiet in your mind,
you know, whether you'rejournaling your thoughts down.
Um, that's what I like to dowhen I'm super stressed and I
feel overwhelmed.
Um, I like to write my thoughtsdown and then kind of.
Mold them over, read over themjust so it's a mind dump and I'm
(06:02):
not walking around with allthese crazy thoughts in my head,
you know, stressing me out.
Then I can look at it from adifferent perspective, a more
calm perspective because it'snot all jumbled in my head.
But I mean, you could, you couldjournal.
Um, I personally, I love, love,love.
I love to meditate.
I love at night before I go tobed.
I love to fill my bath full ofsuper hot water and I love to
(06:24):
get in there with sea salt inthere and vinegar in there and
change the pH so it removes allnegative energy and I, I connect
with the other side.
Ask my team questions.
I ask them to guide me.
Um, I will pray in that spot.
Um, when I miss Corey, I'll askhim to come to me and I've even
(06:46):
had the honor and the privilegeof, sorry,
Brad (06:51):
You're okay.
Nannette (06:52):
I got to see my new little grand baby girl.
And I got to meet her and she'sso fun.
And, um, when my beautifuldaughter was just here, I got to
feel her kick my hand.
So, um, super cool, super cool.
Um, meditation is the very bestand you can't, you can't just
start meditating.
You have, you have to takelittle bits at a time, you know,
Brad (07:15):
Um, well, I think you can start meditating.
You just can't go.
I'm gonna sit there for an
Nannette (07:19):
an hour.
Yeah.
So do you like three minutes?
Um, there is a speaker set thatI always use.
They're called now speakers andthey do Tibetan bowls and they
vibrate in your hands.
And, um, so it's kind of, it'sa, it's a touch experience and a
sound experience, but they,they, yeah,
Brad (07:39):
go ahead and just turn them on.
Nannette (07:42):
they're amazing.
It's kind of like yoga for thebrain.
And, um, these will go for threeminutes.
But you just concentrate on thebowl and the vibration in the
hand.
Brad (08:00):
And they'll bounce back and forth between each other.
It's almost like what EMDRfocuses on.
It's like a little home EMDRset, almost.
It's very cool.
Um, but we both use these thingsall the time.
They're awesome.
Nannette (08:15):
Well, and I've had people that have come into my
office and have just laid on thetable and I put this on each
side of their ears and they justlay there and it calms them
right down.
It takes them from super, superstressed to a zero like, Oh my
gosh, I could almost fall asleepright now.
But.
Learning to calm that freeway inour brain because we were so
inundated with electronics and,you know, all of the news and
(08:38):
all of the things and all thepeople's energy were feeling
each other so much more thesedays, um, to be able to shut
that off and just be one.
With the other side and with theelements.
Um, it's just such a beautiful,beautiful place to be.
But it takes practice.
It takes doing it every singleday.
Brad (08:56):
Yeah.
Well, and so what I'm learningtoo from you is it's okay to
have an aid, something to helpyou through it, whether it's an
app on your phone that talks youthrough a meditation or
something like the, these, youknow, now speakers that, that do
it with you.
Um, it's okay to have a help.
It's not something where youjust have to jump into it and
go, Oh my God, please mind
Nannette (09:16):
be quiet.
No.
Because you're
Brad (09:18):
going, okay, my mind, at least for me.
I bounce to all these thingsthat I have to do with work,
with home, with, okay, I'm doingthis remodel job here and oh my
gosh, at work, I've got totravel here and here.
And it's hard to keep quiet.
Nannette (09:33):
And that's where the practice comes in because that's
completely natural for your mindto bounce to different thoughts.
But what you do is you recognizethe thought and bring it back to
the breath.
You recognize the thought, bringit back to the breath.
Um, or if you fall asleep.
That's okay to fall asleep.
That means you're tired.
Your mind will, yoursubconscious mind will still
(09:54):
take in the meditation and it's,it's really, really cool, but
it's okay to not be perfect atit.
And I still do guidedmeditations.
I'm really good at doing my ownmeditation, especially before I
go in with a client.
But um, I will do a guidedmeditation.
I did an awesome one a couple ofweeks ago about abundance and
um, the, the person taking methrough it.
(10:16):
Kind of described a morningwhere you're laying in your bed,
and you're just waking up, and
Brad (10:22):
the Sun
Nannette (10:23):
are coming through the white curtains, and the sun's
starting to shine, and like allthe details you could see, and
then all of a sudden you go tothe window, and you open the
window, and then it starts torain.
Little tiny gold coins.
And then you go out into therain and these gold coins start
to, um, land on the ground allaround you.
So you open your hands and theystart to land in your hands.
(10:45):
And then as you start to walk,you look off in the distance and
there is a green cloud comingtowards you and it's full of
money and like all these detailsof abundance and wealth and
things coming and like.
Brad (10:57):
why did my whole vision of that just go to Mario Brothers?
Nannette (11:00):
I haven't seen it.
You
Brad (11:02):
dun dun dun
Nannette (11:03):
see him
Brad (11:05):
bouncing.
Jump in and grabbing the coins.
Oh my god.
That, seriously, that's where mymind
Nannette (11:11):
Of course it did.
Of course it did.
Brad (11:13):
did.
Nannette (11:13):
14.
Brad (11:14):
it did.
Nannette (11:15):
a gamer though.
I am not a gamer.
But I do, I love playing MarioKart though.
It is fun.
But yeah, I even do guidedmeditations.
I did a guided meditation onceor twice to find my spare
animals, um, because I wascurious.
I kind of had an idea, but forthem to show up in a meditation
is really cool because you getto actually meet them and hear
(11:35):
their thoughts, which is really,really cool.
So I'm guided meditations, aplus do those.
Absolutely.
Do those.
There's lots of apps out therethat we can do free ones.
YouTube has some, um, you caneven do like binary, binaural,
um, beats like drum beats orflute sounds or things like
that, that will help youmeditate as well.
(11:57):
It just depends on what you'reup for, but if you only have
three minutes, do three minutes
Brad (12:02):
Gotcha.
Yeah.
So it's three minutes a longtime?
Well, look, let me, let mesurprise you with what I was
talking about
Nannette (12:13):
geez.
I'm so nervous.
Brad (12:17):
Bam.
Nannette (12:18):
No, you did
Brad (12:19):
Oh yeah, I did.
Nannette (12:21):
He's getting serious.
He's got his
Brad (12:22):
I've got my readers on because I'm old
Nannette (12:25):
Are you for real?
Brad (12:26):
I am.
This is the real deal.
So in Mormonism, this is knownas.
The quad, and only the mostspiritual people actually own a
quad.
Nannette (12:37):
Really?
Cause there's a lot of 12 yearolds that own quads.
Brad (12:40):
here's the thing.
This is a status symbol withinthe Mormon community.
If you have to carry all ofthem.
That's four books that you'recarrying around, you know, you
got, well, even more if yousplit it up, usually the
Bible's, you know, one book,then you've got your book of
Mormon, your pearl of greatprice and, uh, your doctrine and
(13:01):
covenants.
So you're carrying around all ofthese different books.
If you're really cool and reallyspiritual, you have a quad.
Um,
Nannette (13:10):
Dude, though, you know, I got that in one of those
for seminary in high school, andin seminary, you're only using
like just the Book of Mormonpart or just the Doctrine and
Covenants part or just theBible.
Brad (13:24):
SE seminary.
Yeah, because I got the Bibleand then I got a book of Mormon
and a DNC and Pearl of GreatPrice, but I, I didn't get a
quad.
I had'em all separated.
Nannette (13:35):
I
Brad (13:36):
guess I didn't really go all the way through seminary.
I really only just got the Biblebecause that's the seminary
part.
I did initially when I was inhigh school, I was like, this is
a waste of time.
Nannette (13:48):
Well, and I had my kids get the quad too for, um,
for seminary, but I always hatedthat I had to carry around all
the extra books when we wereonly studying this one, one
book.
It was like, it's such a pain inthe butt.
It's like trying to carry yourEnglish book and your math book
and all of your other books allat the same time.
It's like, Oh, come on.
Brad (14:08):
a lot of people are like, well, I don't want to read the
Book of Mormon, but I'mwondering what it says.
And I, I was looking at it todayand I am going to
Nannette (14:17):
Is that a scripture mastery card?
Brad (14:19):
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like, these are greatbookmarks cause you can use them
to highlight things with.
Um, But I am going to read themost read scripture in all of
the book of Mormon.
Nannette (14:34):
I bet I can quote it with you.
I bet you can.
It
Brad (14:39):
goes like this.
Nannette (14:40):
born of goodly parents.
Brad (14:42):
Nan's got it right.
Nan's got it right.
I, Nephi.
Some people pronounce it Nephi.
That's how you can tell ifsomebody's from Utah or not.
If they say Nephi, becausethere's a town called Nephi in
Utah.
If somebody calls it Nephi, theyare not from Utah.
Nannette (15:00):
If
Brad (15:01):
true.
If they're from Utah, they sayNephi.
I, Nephi, having been born ofgoodly parents.
You are saying that.
Oh yeah, goodly parents.
What is a goodly parent?
Seriously.
Do we have, let's see if we havesomething down here.
What does it say?
(15:21):
Um, it refers us to Proverbs 22one
Nannette (15:27):
And you have a quad so you can go
Brad (15:28):
talking about the birth, right?
So I, Nephi, having been born ofgoodly parents, therefore I was
taught somewhat in all thelearning of my father.
And having seen many afflictionsin the course of my days,
nevertheless,
Nannette (15:45):
Yes.
Nevertheless, having
Brad (15:51):
been highly favored of the Lord in all my days.
Yay.
Having had a great knowledge ofthe goodness.
And the mysteries of God.
Therefore I make a record of myproceedings in my days.
So this is Nephi.
This is the guy who's like, Hey,I'm writing this shit because I
(16:11):
am awesome.
He starts it off, right?
Nephi is the OG of the Mormonreligion.
Nannette (16:18):
It's true.
Brad (16:18):
He is.
He's the one everyone loves.
Now.
His dad was pretty cool, but notas cool as him
Nannette (16:24):
It's true.
Brad (16:25):
and so everyone's like, Oh, Nephi.
Oh my God, Nephi.
Yes, he did.
That's actually an interestingstory because murder is okay.
It establishes it very well.
Murder is okay in the light ofreligion.
Nannette (16:41):
I mean, seriously, even Dexter has, like, a code.
Dexter
Brad (16:45):
a code.
Nephi also had a code.
So here's, here's a verse that Ithink was really interesting
though.
And I, I read this and I'm like,why did he have to say that?
This seems like, okay, let mejust read it and then we'll talk
about it.
(17:07):
Okay, first I'm going to read,I'm going to read two.
So I read the first one, blah,blah, blah.
Number two.
Yay.
I, and just the way they talk,right?
It's like, it seems verycontrived.
Anyway.
Yay.
I make a record in the languageof my father.
Nannette (17:23):
My father.
Brad (17:28):
I'm sorry guys, that's an inside joke that we just can't
really explain, but it'shilarious to us.
Nannette (17:34):
uh,
Brad (17:35):
Which consists of the learning of the Jews and the
language of the Egyptians.
So, he's teaching about the Jewsin the language of the
Egyptians.
So, that was one of the thingsis, oh, this was reformed
Egyptian, you know, that's beingtranslated, right?
Nannette (17:52):
Right.
The book of Abraham is supposedto be reformed Egyptian.
Yeah.
Brad (17:56):
And this is the one that really gets me.
And I know that the record whichI make is true.
And I make it with my own handand I make it according to my
knowledge.
So,
Nannette (18:10):
Oh, wow.
Yeah,
Brad (18:12):
this is true.
You just believe this.
This is true.
So let me ask you this.
Do you remember driving upSpanish Fork Canyon and around
Covered Bridge, there was alwaysa guy across the way selling the
best beef jerky in the world.
Nannette (18:30):
Yes, it was.
Brad (18:32):
No, it wasn't.
It was horrible.
That's what the sign said.
But was it the best?
No, it was shit.
Kind of.
Nannette (18:40):
shit.
Brad (18:41):
Well, it was shit kind of like in elf when he goes, Oh, I
found the best cup of coffee inthe world.
And he, he has Zoe taste it.
And she's like, it tastes like areally crappy cup of coffee.
Nannette (18:53):
If
Brad (18:54):
you have to say this is the best one in the world, it's
probably not true.
And.
Nannette (19:00):
That's a good point.
Yeah.
Brad (19:01):
when I'm reading that now, it's almost like, Hey, look at
this.
This is the truth.
This, I swear to God, this istrue.
I'm writing this.
It's true.
And it's all of my experiences.
Nannette (19:12):
Well, additionally, if you think about it, when you
were 20 years old, what you knewis completely different at you
at 50.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
And so you may be like, I mean,I remember thinking that the
church was completely true.
Absolutely.
And I'd stick my life on it.
There was a point in my lifewhere that was me.
But, um, you take me at 58 and,um, yeah, no, no,
Brad (19:37):
Yeah, different story,
Nannette (19:38):
So I, I, I think you need to take into consideration
his age and what has.
He, he gone through in his life,probably not so much.
Brad (19:46):
Or, or take into consideration that this was
written by Joseph Smith and he'strying to make sure everyone
believes that it's true.
So how, how do I make it sopeople believe this is true?
I know
Nannette (20:00):
going to tell them it
Brad (20:01):
I'll tell them it's true in the book and then they'll
have to believe it.
That's
Nannette (20:06):
That's a good
Brad (20:07):
Right?
Yeah.
So, that was just something.
Gosh, I almost want to startanother page where I just read
the Book of Mormon.
I would so.
How about that
Nannette (20:14):
How about that be a different podcast?
Brad (20:16):
I mean.
Just another podcast.
We'll call it Mormon Readings.
Right?
Brad Reads.
is there a book you would liketo hear me read?
Let me know other than the bookof Mormon.
I'm sure there's something outthere.
Um, no.
(20:37):
So that's, I wanted to read thatbecause it bothered me.
I was thinking about it theother day and I'm like, wait a
minute.
Why would you have to tellsomebody how true this was
Nannette (20:47):
Right.
Brad (20:47):
instead of just going, here's the story.
Here's, here's what happened.
This, this is what happened.
I don't need to tell you it'strue.
Um, But essentially it goes onand, and yeah, there's a lot
here.
There's a lot.
We could literally walk, talkabout this for, for days and
read this for days.
But let me ask you, Nan, when itcomes to that giant ass book,
(21:13):
and obviously the book of Mormonis not that big and usually it's
not that big.
I just have the large fontbecause.
Why not, right?
Eventually you'll need it, soget the large font.
Um, What do you think of thatbig book?
Is it the most correct book onearth, as once was proclaimed by
(21:33):
a prophet?
Nannette (21:36):
You know, um, P R O F I T, prophet,
Brad (21:41):
More now than ever.
Nannette (21:42):
Yeah.
You know, I, I would absolutely100 percent say no.
Just because there's nohistorical, um, or
archeological, um, evidence of,of this.
Brad (21:56):
Yeah.
Nannette (21:57):
And, um, I, I even remember us going to Mexico for
the very first time and, and ourguide was LDS and he was trying
to make the Book of Mormon fitinto these ruins that we were
seeing and stuff.
And it just didn't, it didn'tgo, it didn't, it didn't fit.
It
Brad (22:14):
all.
Well, there were certain thingsthat were similar, right?
And so based on confirmationbias, you go, Oh my God, yeah,
that is so accurate.
That just goes right along withthe temple and look, they're
wearing an apron just like wewould in the temple.
Um, so you, you look at it andyou go, yeah, that's definitely
got to be true.
Nannette (22:35):
Yeah, I think it's a stretch.
I think it's a big stretch.
I think that a lot of the quoteunquote manmade religions, um,
they, they talked, you know,people traveled, like, um.
Yeah, but the fact that thereisn't any historical evidence,
there's no
Brad (22:54):
Giant battlefields with millions of people who were
murdered?
Nannette (22:57):
No, no,
Brad (23:00):
No
Nannette (23:00):
not to mention the horses.
And I mean, it's just, it's sad.
Brad (23:06):
Iron.
Nannette (23:07):
Yeah, I think, I think there's a reason why so many
people have started first Nephi35 times and not gotten through
the first Nephi Or the Book ofMormon, because it's like, it's,
they can feel that it's not truethough.
That's the
Brad (23:24):
thing.
And here's maybe how they shouldsell it initially.
Go, look, this book's got somefun stories in it, you should
read it.
Oh, and when you get to thatreally boring chapter, don't
worry about it, just skip it.
Exactly.
Well, what
Nannette (23:36):
Well, what if it were movies?
Oh my gosh, there would be somepretty raunchy ratings that a
lot of Mormons couldn't watch.
Yeah,
Brad (23:44):
Mormons couldn't watch their own book,
Nannette (23:46):
No!
Brad (23:46):
they can read about it.
Nannette (23:47):
Right?
Brad (23:48):
But they can't read that, what is it, Court of Thorns?
What is the,
Nannette (23:52):
Thorns and Roses.
Brad (23:53):
and Roses, yeah.
Everyone thinks, oh look, mywife's reading fantasy novels.
She loves the fairies.
No, that's porn.
Nannette (24:02):
is porn.
Oh my gosh, you only read onelove scene.
Oh my
Brad (24:07):
Um, yeah, one out of a whole book full of them.
And it made me blush.
Nannette (24:12):
blush.
It did
Brad (24:13):
I was like, Holy shit.
Oh yes, it did.
Nannette (24:17):
did not.
It takes a lot to make
Brad (24:18):
Exactly my point.
Nannette (24:20):
were like, whoa.
Brad (24:21):
Yeah, it made me blush.
So when you see your wivesreading that or your ladies
reading that,
Nannette (24:26):
ladies reading that, Mm hmm.
Yeah.
Nope.
Brad (24:30):
not reading it for the fairies.
Nannette (24:32):
my gosh!
Brad (24:35):
Look,
Nannette (24:35):
I didn't know, I didn't know it bothered you so
much,
Brad (24:37):
oh it doesn't bother me, I think it's funny.
Nan's face is going red becauseshe knows, she's like, oh yeah,
I read that.
Nannette (24:43):
I did.
The funny part is my daughterread it with me.
She's the one that told me toread it.
It's a very good series.
It really, really is.
Brad (24:53):
Yeah, I believe you.
Hey, and it's your story.
You want to read softcore porn?
I don't care.
Nannette (24:59):
Whatever.
Yeah, honey.
Brad (25:04):
So, so that's what, that's what I've got for folks today.
You know, my, maybe that's whatwe need to do on a regular
basis.
Now.
We'll just read a, a verse fromthe Book of Mormon, each show.
Nannette (25:13):
of Mormon
Brad (25:15):
Are you sure?
It would be fun.
All right.
We don't have to, but
Nannette (25:18):
sure?
Alright.
I'll read
Brad (25:21):
read a book, a Mormon verse and you can draw a
Nannette (25:23):
You can draw
Brad (25:25):
want to draw a tarot card right
Nannette (25:26):
right now.
Brad (25:27):
Oh, you're prepared as you need to be.
Nannette (25:29):
you need to be.
That's
Brad (25:32):
That's alright.
Pull it.
Pull a card.
Any card.
Let's see what the month
Nannette (25:37):
Month
Brad (25:40):
Yep, let's pull a card for the month of March.
Nannette (25:43):
March?
Brad (25:46):
there to the camera.
Oh, what does that mean?
Nannette (25:50):
I don't know what it says.
It's an eagle, I know that.
Brad (25:52):
it around and
Nannette (25:55):
Ha! Embrace spirit, bitches! Ha ha! Did we not just
talk about this?
Yeah.
And actually, an eagle is myspirit animal as well, too.
Brad (26:07):
is my spirit animal as well, too.
Card for the week.
Nannette (26:14):
Yes.
Yeah.
Get to know who you are as aspirit and step into your
spiritual path.
You guys, life is so much richerwhen you're able to do that and
you're not reactive to theoutside world.
You're coming from a place ofpeace and calm.
So highly recommend.
Brad (26:30):
I love it.
Thank you so much everyone forsticking around listening to us.
Uh, sorry if I traumatizedanybody or brought up old wounds
by reading the Book
Nannette (26:39):
I need a Xanax.
Brad (26:39):
Yeah, especially you.
Sorry now.
Uh, but thanks again everybody.
We sure appreciate it.
Please remember, like andsubscribe.
Uh, we love you and we'll seeyou
Nannette (26:49):
on the other side of the veil.
Brad (26:53):
Hmm, hmm,
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