October 31, 2024 • 33 mins
In this episode of the Mormon to Medium podcast, Nanette and Brad dive into their ghostly adventures and fascinating discoveries in New Orleans! After briefly recapping their eerie experiences at Muriel's and Bourbon Street from the last episode, they venture into the historical and haunted landmarks like the St. Louis Cathedral, Pirate Alley, and the infamous LaLaurie Mansion. Hear about dark tales from the past, mysterious energies, and creepy ghost stories that will send chills down your spine. They also mix in their vibrant experiences with New Orleans' unique culture, delicious food, and unforgettable parades. Don't forget to put up your protection and brace yourselves for some intense supernatural stories. Tune in, get spooked, and maybe even plan your own trip to explore the haunted wonders of New Orleans!
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Brad (00:00):
Last episode, we talked about our trip to New Orleans
(00:03):
and we covered our visit to
Nannette (00:05):
Muriel's, that's where, the seance room was and
we also ate dinner there andthat's also where the ghost
table is.
Yes.
Yeah, some crazy shit happenedthere.
Brad (00:17):
Also talked about how Nan had some ghostly encounters at
some of the other bars that wereon Bourbon Street.
But this week, we're going totalk about some really cool
places that we were able to seethat we had talked about
previously.
Nannette (00:34):
Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll
talk about spirituality, theparanormal religion, and my
journey going from Mormon tomedium.
I'm Nanette Wride.
Thanks for listening.
Now let's go have some fun.
(00:58):
So in previous episodes, wetalked about, the St.
Louis Cathedral, which was madea basilica, by the Catholic
church.
There's actually a statue outfront of the Pope with a couple
of little kids and all thethings.
And, I guess he came and visitedbut, in a couple of the places
that we studied, they had saidthat there was a big photograph
(01:20):
or painting of Pierre Antoine.
And so we searched high and lowin this
Brad (01:27):
Yeah, we were in the St.
Louis Cathedral looking all overthe place for this.
Nannette (01:31):
Yeah, we even asked someone that worked there and
and there is not a picture ofPierre Antoine.
But we did find Pierre Antoine'sname and Dagobert's name.
and and it was dated back in the1800s and it was the time that
they served.
So they had, you know, the, howthey, when they began and when
they ended on both of them.
So we did find their namesthere.
Brad (01:51):
Yeah, you know, interesting to me was that the
stained glass in the entirecathedral is not actually
stained glass.
It's actually just glass.
thats been painted.
And when we talked to one of therectors there, he let us know
that the Catholic Church hadactually removed all of the
stained glass and had it sentback to the Vatican, which is
super weird.
Nannette (02:10):
tell you why they did
Brad (02:11):
No, he didn't.
That
Nannette (02:13):
That seems so strange, maybe because of the hurricanes.
Brad (02:16):
I don't know.
I don't know.
We
Nannette (02:18):
we didn't, we did notice though, that it needs
some upkeep.
Brad (02:21):
need some upkeep.
Nannette (02:23):
Yeah.
I like the clock on the outsideof it's really rusty.
Some of the paint is, is peelinginside.
It's kind of sad because it's areally beautiful cathedral,
Brad (02:31):
Yeah, it is.
Well, and there's so muchhistory there.
Which is one of the main reasonswe went there, right?
Is because of that history andbecause of some of the ghosty
tales that you had heard about.
Nannette (02:42):
Right.
So if you remember right inprevious episodes, uh, Pierre
Antoine, was the, the friar orthe father or whatever you want
to call him.
that was in charge the day thatthe fire broke out, on Good
Friday.
And, he made the decision not toring the bell to warn the city
and the city burned down.
Brad (03:00):
Well, and not only did the city burn down, but they
attribute nearly 500 deaths tothat fire because he didn't ring
the
Nannette (03:08):
Because he didn't ring the bell.
Yeah.
And and here's here's how hot itgot.
The people were just crispy andparts of them were everywhere.
We found this out while we werethere in New Orleans.
And so rather than pick up thepieces and go properly bury them
because I mean, you can't putpieces together because there's
so many people they justbulldozed over it and Built the
city on top of it.
(03:29):
So think about that for asecond.
Cause that whole city is buriedon top of people that died in a
horrific way.
It is weird energy.
Brad (03:38):
and it's not only, that's not the only time, I mean, so
that particular area, thecathedral, was the place of
another basically mass murder.
Nannette (03:47):
Right.
So, To the, to the side of thecathedral, you, you've got the
Presbyter, and then on the otherside you have the Cabildo, and
these buildings are identical,okay, but the Cabildo the word
means council, and it was thelocation of the colonial
government, and when the Spanishfirst arrived after the 1762
(04:08):
treaty, it went from Frenchhands to Spanish hands.
So you had a lot of theFrenchmen that were pissed off.
They were, they were furious andthey had been traded in an act
of war.
and, and they were uninformed ofthe treaty for an entire year.
And so when they found out, theynaturally rebelled.
The Spanish had wished an end toall of this.
(04:28):
And so that they had a, theirvery best general, his name was
Don Alejandro Bloody O'Reilly.
Brad (04:34):
bloody O'Reilly.
So he was actually,
Nannette (04:36):
he
Brad (04:37):
he was Irish.
Nannette (04:39):
I don't know about
Brad (04:40):
He was probably a drinker too.
Well, his name was O'Reilly.
Nannette (04:43):
and bloody.
But, they wanted him to, toquash the rebellion that was
going on.
and he had arrived in 1769 with2, 000 troops.
After killing the first of therebelling Frenchmen he came
across, he invited the rest ofthe leaders of the French to
come to the Cabildo.
And he fed them and, and talkedto them and was really nice.
(05:05):
And then guess what he did?
Brad (05:06):
What?
Nannette (05:08):
he scurried right down.
Next to them, and he stayed trueto his name, he handcuffed the
men, brought them to theintersection of Esplanade Avenue
and Frenchman Street, where heexecuted all of them.
thus, bloody O'Reilly, he killedall the Frenchmen.
Brad (05:24):
Well, and one of the things we learned while we were
there is that he didn't justkill them.
He didn't just take them out andhang them.
He took them out and.
Very much tortured them and madeit bloody and made it a show so
that no one else would eventhink about revolting
Nannette (05:40):
Right.
And just a fun fact, themusically inclined Frenchman
Street, because you hear all themusic and stuff on Frenchmen it
is where the Frenchmen losttheir lives in the Spanish,
against the Spanish.
In the 18th century.
Brad (05:53):
Interesting then that's why it's Frenchmen Street
Nannette (05:54):
Uh huh.
So, so today, I didn't know thiswhen we were there, but it's,
the Cabeldo is actually a museumand it has hundreds of artifacts
and even has a bronze death maskthat belonged to Napoleon
Bonaparte.
So you won't want to miss it.
We missed it.
So.
Brad (06:14):
did miss it.
We didn't realize.
Nannette (06:17):
There was so much to do and I mean we walked 21
miles.
So there was so much.
We just didn't go in
Brad (06:23):
It's just, the architecture and everything,
it's just a beautiful city.
Nannette (06:27):
So beautiful.
The gardens are beautiful.
The people watching isuntouchable.
Brad (06:31):
but look, nobody's here really to hear about the
architecture or the peoplewatching.
They want to hear about theghosts.
Let's talk
Nannette (06:38):
Okay, so, so let's talk about Pirate Alley because
we didn't know the stories onPirate Alley other than, you
know, the, the, the, Booty
Brad (06:47):
pirates would sell their booty.
Nannette (06:49):
glue, the glory holes, right?
We didn't really understand, butwhen we were walking, it was, it
was nighttime.
It was dark and we were walkingdown pirate alley.
And there was just this one areawhere a phylo erection,
Brad (07:04):
like,
Nannette (07:05):
crazy energy.
We looked at each other, likeit's right here.
It's right.
Something happened, right.
Brad (07:10):
it's right here, it's right, something happened right
here.
Yeah,
Nannette (07:18):
Yeah.
So we ended up going on a tour,a ghost tour, and they took us
back to that place.
And there's an absinthe housethat's right there right now.
And if you don't know whatabsinthe is, it's a liquor that
smells just like absinthe.
And I guess it tastes just likeblack licorice and broadhead.
It's black licorice.
Even if I eat it, he won't
Brad (07:39):
Oh, it's so gross.
It is
Nannette (07:41):
I love black licorice, but I didn't taste it.
I just, you could smell it outon the street.
But, but we found out that.
This absinthe house, this barthat is right there on the
corner where we were feelingthis energy used to be a prison.
Brad (07:55):
So
Nannette (07:55):
there were men and women and children that were
held in this prison and it wasdeplorable conditions there.
So a lot of the people even diedin these cells under the
conditions.
And it could be for something assimple as stealing bread.
That these people were puttingthe, right, Lina's,
Brad (08:14):
Look down look down.
Nannette (08:17):
but, but that's why we're feeling what we were
feeling.
There was a lot of exchange thathappened there.
Brad (08:23):
there.
Well, and one thing aboutPirates Alley, people will go
there to get married becausethere's a certain spirit that
haunts the alley.
Even to this day, and peoplewill get their photos taken
during their weddings to see ifthey can capture his ghost in
these.
And he's got an interestingstory.
Nannette (08:43):
Yeah, there's a pirate by the last name of Hicks.
And actually he, he was a youngboy and he was captured by the
pirates.
So by Lafitte's, uh, group ofpirates as a young boy and he
was raised by the pirates.
So he soon became uh, anassistant or second in command
next to Lafitte.
So he worked right near Lafitteall the time.
(09:06):
and just as the war of 1812 wasstarting Hicks had fallen in
love with this beautiful,gorgeous Cajun woman.
And they were madly in love andthen she ended up being pregnant
and he didn't want his child tobe illegitimate.
And he, it meant a lot to himfor them to be married,
especially before he left forthe war.
(09:26):
So there was no preachers to befound anywhere.
And all they could find was aGerman preacher that was in a
gel cell.
So he actually is marriedbetween the bars.
They, they brought the preacherto the back part of the church.
Pirate's Alley, and he wasmarried through the, the gel
bars there in Pirate's Alley.
And and then he took off for thewar and they say that he was
(09:47):
killed in the war.
And so oftentimes they say it'seither Lafitte or Hicks that is
found walking in the earlymornings down Pirate's Alley.
And you can hear, uh, the bellsring, wedding bells ring and him
singing.
Sorry.
I kind of, I kind of go for,it's going to be Hicks, not
Lafitte,
Brad (10:04):
walking
Nannette (10:05):
That that's walking there because that's the last
time he was truly, truly happy.
Brad (10:08):
would make sense.
Well, and to be fair, we didn'thear singing, whistling, or
walking.
No,
Nannette (10:13):
No, but we felt that crazy energy through there and
it hit us all every single time.
Brad (10:19):
It did.
So that was definitely aninteresting area.
Yeah.
You
Nannette (10:25):
know what?
New Orleans is just full of thatinteresting energy.
It is crazy, bouncy, hauntedenergy everywhere.
Brad (10:31):
Yeah, it really, really is.
Well, and we didn't end there.
We also went to the LaLaurieMansion.
Nannette (10:39):
That was weird.
Yeah.
So the Lillaria mansion iscurrently up for sale.
It's been for sale for fiveyears.
It was 12.
5 million and now it's down to 9million.
Brad (10:52):
So
Nannette (10:53):
any of you want to buy a haunted mansion, there you go.
Brad (10:56):
Right.
Nannette (10:56):
It's really beautiful though.
It's locked up really tight, youknow, bars all around it, but
the courtyard is lit up so youcan see in and Our friends that
were with us got a beat on awindow that the, that the
curtains were moving.
Brad (11:10):
So the LaLaurie Mansion is way down Royal Street and it
gets pretty quiet.
There's not a lot of people downin that area.
We were down there pretty late.
Big, beautiful full moon.
So we got some really coolpictures with the mansion and
the big full moon behind it.
But you can just feel aheaviness.
It's heavy there.
Nannette (11:30):
It is heavy there.
And, you know, I think part ofme was a little feeling guilty
because we were there to seewhat we could feel.
And there were some horrificthings that happened there.
It's almost not right.
You know, in a way, I mean, Iknow, I know that they are
intentions are good, but thereare a lot of other people there
too, for the same reason.
(11:52):
And it was at a cost, a greatcost to these people that were
tortured just horrific.
I can't even believe anyonewould be so vile and brutal.
Evil that they could do thingslike they did to humans.
But the, the energy is reallycrazy there.
I have to back up because Imentioned in other episodes that
(12:12):
when we were talking about thelittle Laurie mansion and
looking into the history, I hada young black girl come to me.
She had little tiny pigtails andshe was maybe seven to 10 years
old.
And, and she showed up and I'mjust like, in my mind, I'm like
thinking, is she attached to theLaLaurie mansion?
If she is, why is she coming tome?
(12:34):
I mean, in my mind, if I can seeher here at my house, why can't
I help her here?
Why do I need to go there typeof thing?
And so I kind of just filed itaway and kind of was like, if
she's supposed to be with theLaLaurie mansion, we'll see when
we get there type of thing.
So when we got there.
there.
Kristen was actually talking toa girl by the front door where
they kept feeling like a coldspot.
(12:56):
And she, she was encouragingthese, this young girl that kept
telling her mom that she canfeel something in this one area.
I personally didn't feelanything.
And so I kind of smiled and wentand stood in a in a window well
to the Laurie mansion and justkind of got quiet for a second
and breathed.
And I shit you not, I had theyoung girl come through.
Brad (13:17):
to explain what you mean by a window well because people,
especially like in Utah orplaces that have basements, a
window well is very differentthan what you were
Nannette (13:25):
Oh, well, these aren't, this isn't a basement.
This is like, it starts at themain level and it's just kind of
like a doorway.
But it's a window.
And, and I just, they, they havebars on the windows and things
like that.
It's not like you can actuallyget into the place.
So I did some deep breaths andkind of blocked out everything
that was going on around me justso I could see if this girl goes
(13:48):
with the Lillory mansion andsure enough, she showed up and I
saw her, but she was on theother side of the window.
And I said, so what do you need?
And she started banging on thewindow and she says, let me out
and kept screaming, let me out.
And I kind of took me backbecause I was like, Oh, okay.
(14:13):
That that's just so weird.
Let me out.
Brad (14:15):
Like
Nannette (14:16):
How come she can't get out, but she could come to me
when I'm at home, but she can'tget out of the Lillari Mansion.
I'm like thinking it was kind ofodd.
So I kind of sat with it for aminute and I didn't really know
how to help because I could feelthere was like this block around
the whole place.
Like whoever's in there stayingin there and they're not getting
(14:37):
out type of thing.
I don't know if they've they'vehad it warded or whatever
they've done, but
Brad (14:43):
but which would make sense, right?
Nannette (14:45):
Yeah,
Brad (14:46):
Well, and I would even say that, you know, when, when, uh,
the fire broke out and theLaLauries were busted for what
they had done.
The townspeople destroyed theplace, right?
Nannette (14:58):
yeah.
Brad (14:59):
I could absolutely see them, you know, setting wards
and having, know, voodoopriestess come down to, you
know, to help make it safe.
Nannette (15:08):
Right, right.
Brad (15:09):
The
Nannette (15:10):
The thing that gets me, though, is if there's evil
energy in there or dark energyin there or even spirits left in
there why would you not clearthem or help them cross or just
completely clear the spacecompletely?
Why, why are they in there?
Why is someone that that's whereI was at, but it just didn't
feel right.
(15:30):
It just, I sat with it and wewatched the windows and we, we
kind of walked around the placefor a second and then headed
out.
But it kind of just ate at mebecause I was like, if I can
help, I want to help, but I'mnot feeling like I I'm being
instructed exactly what to do.
So, yeah, I think that.
It kind of felt like it was moreevil than, or dark energy than,
(15:54):
yeah.
We probably don't want that out.
Brad (15:56):
that out.
Well, and that's the thing.
If you look at the history ofthe
Nannette (16:04):
and that's the thing, if you look at the history of
the house, no one has livedthere for longer than five years
and most people that have livedthere have gone bankrupt or had
something horrific happen.
So it's like the house doesn'twant anybody there.
And it sat now for five years,so I'll bet you someone will buy
it and then they'll be there forless than five years and cycle
(16:24):
will keep happening happeningbecause it's been happening.
I mean, it was what once agirl's school, you said before.
Is that right?
Brad (16:33):
Yeah, it housed orphans for a time during shit, yellow
fever.
Nannette (16:37):
Yeah.
Brad (16:39):
it's been a number of different things.
Nannette (16:42):
Yeah.
So yeah, not a lot of goodthings have happened in that
house.
And anyway, we came to theconclusion that that was not, it
was, it was not a good energythere.
Brad (16:54):
Yeah, it wasn't an innocent energy that it, it may
have presented itself as.
And you know what, that, that'sa whole different take, right?
You know, how can that darkenergy present itself to be, you
know, innocent or good?
And does it happen often?
I mean, if
Nannette (17:10):
I mean, if you think about people, you know, there
can be innocent, looking peoplethat have dark intentions,
right?
So I mean, I think it justcrosses over to other energies
and spirits and stuff.
It's the same, same
Brad (17:27):
That makes sense.
I
Nannette (17:28):
thing in my world.
It's the same, same it's it'snot demons.
It's crazy.
It's dark energy.
It's dark choices.
It's it's imprints of bad thingsthat have happened.
And that naturally is going tobe like a darker entity.
Brad (17:42):
Got it.
that makes sense.
Nannette (17:43):
Crazy though.
Right.
And then we got to attend areally awesome, uh, parade.
Brad (17:51):
parade.
Yeah! We happened to be thereduring, well, and we talked
about that a little bit, justthe big, awesome New Orleans
parade that they were doing for,uh, Halloween.
it was so much fun.
Not, uh, not very many paradesyou go to where they
Nannette (18:07):
Yeah.
Our friends were like, so it wasKristen's birthday and our
friends were like, we're goingto go see a parade.
Yay.
We're like, Oh no, no, no.
New Orleans parades are verydifferent.
And we did some lives if you goand look, it was at the
beginning of the parades.
But they went for hours andhours and yeah, mini bottles
(18:29):
moon pies.
Peeps, beads, like all differentkinds of really cool stuff.
I mean, it is just junk, butit's really fun.
Cause they throw it all in theair and you catch them.
And the cool thing too, iseveryone in the parade was
dressed up like Halloween stuff.
Brad (18:45):
Yeah, it was really a lot of fun.
Nannette (18:47):
And my favorite were all of the really older men that
were overweight and they weredancing.
Brad (18:54):
What were they called?
Because they had a, do youremember?
I
Nannette (18:57):
remember, but I was dying laughing.
It was so funny.
Brad (19:03):
Yeah, it was awesome because you had all walks of
life there.
Everyone was just at the parade,enjoying themselves, having fun.
And.
It just felt good.
You know, it was just goodenergy.
People were happy.
It was Kristen's birthday.
Everybody showed up for herbirthday cause they love her.
And, uh, you know, it just verydifferent than like parades
(19:27):
you'd get here in Utah wherethey're just so boring.
They're It
Nannette (19:39):
didn't feel like that.
I didn't feel like it was awalking billboard.
Brad (19:42):
Well, it was a walking billboard because they were, you
know, sponsored by MonsterEnergy, sponsored by Rockstar,
sponsored by So, every float andeverything, it was a walking
billboard.
It just, they covered it up alot better by throwing cool
shit.
Nannette (19:56):
And dancing and having fun.
Oh my gosh, so fun.
Brad (20:00):
wasn't just an old car with a sign on it.
It was, people actually had fun.
Nannette (20:04):
So.
Brad (20:05):
we're
Nannette (20:06):
We went through the garden district too.
We, we got on a trolley and thisis where Kristen lost her penis.
And she was super sad on herbirthday.
She lost
Brad (20:16):
lost it.
Oh, it's detachable.
Yeah.
Detachable penis.
Ha
Nannette (20:20):
We had to buy her a new one.
Anyways, what did, what did youfeel about the garden district?
What did you think?
Brad (20:26):
Do you know, I, I would have liked to have had a car to
be able to drive through thearea, I think.
There were some big, beautifulhomes.
I mean, but that's, you know,and we got to see the college
and it's, it's a beautiful area,but I, I had expected more and
maybe it's because of the timeof year we went, it was starting
(20:46):
to get cold.
And so it wasn't as overgrownand luscious.
Maybe it usually is.
Nannette (20:52):
I thought that their yards were really beautiful.
And that I was disappointed thatall of the cemeteries were
locked.
Brad (20:59):
Yeah, all the cemeteries we went to were all locked up.
Nannette (21:03):
And you had to have a tour guide to take you in, and
they were all booked.
So we didn't get to go into acemetery, which totally sucks.
I mean, Brad and I have been inone, but in the St.
Louis Cemetery One, we've beenin one the first time we went to
New Orleans.
But I was hoping Kristen andWylan would have been able to
see a cemetery, but they wereall locked.
Brad (21:23):
But we got to see'em from the outside.
Nannette (21:25):
Yeah, and we met some really cool people that were
doing the same thing we were.
Brad (21:28):
Yeah.
Looking through the gates going,wow, that looks really cool.
Well, the crazy thing is the, itsaid it was closed for
renovation, but there was no oneworking in there.
No.
It was literally just locked.
Nannette (21:39):
Yeah.
Kind of disappointing.
You know, the thing that got metoo was the homeless that were
there,
Brad (21:45):
A lot of homeless,
Nannette (21:46):
a lot of homeless people.
And I mean, we even walked pastsome churches during the
evenings and there were homelesspeople on the steps of the
church asleep.
And I, I was like, they shouldbe in the church, you know, on
the pews or whatever.
They, They shouldn't be, we'reAmericans.
We shouldn't be sleeping on thestreet.
What the fuck?
Brad (22:04):
Yeah,
Nannette (22:04):
That's disturbing me.
It's really sad.
And then there's our Lyftdrivers.
We had some really cool
Brad (22:10):
my
Nannette (22:10):
drivers.
Brad (22:13):
Yeah, so we've got to tell stories about this.
So we had a couple of Lyftdrivers that were just so much
fun.
So I'm going to start with thelast one first.
He drove us to the airport andas we're driving out, we're
talking and you know, the wholespirits of New Orleans comes up
and he starts telling us how hewould feel his uncle because he
(22:34):
was.
Yeah.
The executor of his uncle'sestate and he took the money and
bought a plot in one of thecemeteries because his uncle had
always wanted the family to havea plot in the cemetery, but his
family was upset with himbecause he had done this and he
just was like talking to hisuncle like, did I do the right
thing?
Did I make you happy?
And he just got, he was able to,he actually said he saw his
(22:55):
uncle.
And the uncle just smiled andnodded at him, and he knew that
he had made the right choice.
Like, so cool.
Nannette (23:04):
Yeah, really, really cool.
And I never realized how peoplein the South, especially black
people in the South are soaccepting of the paranormal.
And because the people that weran into, they, they didn't act
like there was a division in, incolor or in belief systems or
anything like that.
We were all just Americans andwe were just having fun.
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Both of our drivers were botholder.
One was a woman, one was the manthat Brad was just talking
about.
The guy super cool, reallyawesome energy and had cornrows
and longer hair.
So you wouldn't think he waslike, I think he said he was 46.
Brad (23:40):
Oh my gosh.
He looked like he was in histwenties.
Nannette (23:43):
Yeah,
Brad (23:43):
genetics.
In fact, speaking of genetics,he was telling us a story and
this is awesome.
So he said that during Katrina,everyone was displaced, right?
You couldn't find family.
There was no cell for service.
It was just a nightmare tryingto get everyone back together.
So he's with his uncle and someof his family.
They're trying to find grandma.
They couldn't find his grandma.
(24:03):
Anywhere.
Well, he had heard through thegrapevine that some of the
people from her area had beentaken to LSU to stay in the
stadium where the athletes wouldstay.
They had like dorms in thestadium, so he loads up in the
car with his with his uncles togo down and see if Grandma's
there.
As they're driving through theneighborhood, they see these
(24:27):
ladies out playing cards andhe's like, I think that's
grandma and sure shit.
It was so they were able toreunite with her.
But as they pull up to get her,she looks at him and she goes,
You can keep on driving cause Ididn't call y'all mother mother
motherfuckers to come get me.
(24:48):
She was enjoying herself withthe ladies just playing cards.
He's like, my grandma was agangster.
She used to carry around a 45.
You didn't mess with my grandma.
Nannette (24:57):
Exactly right.
She didn't feel like she was indanger at all, but there were
like, you know, convicts thatwere displaced And, and it was,
it was crazy
Brad (25:06):
was, it was crazy out there.
You know, criminals and everyonewas in there and maybe I
shouldn't say it like that, butthey literally had predators in
there who were committing sexualassaults, who were victimizing
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people while they were at thelowest low of their lives.
And you had these, thesehorrible people who decided that
they were just going to makeRight.
Nannette (25:43):
other states.
And Utah was one of the statesthat got
Brad (25:46):
you talk out a lot of people.
We, we actually flew people infrom New Orleans to Utah.
They all stayed at campWilliams.
They had camp Williams set upwith cots all through the
buildings to house people.
And they had the same type ofthing happened there.
It was, you know, they hadsexual assaults, they had
robberies.
It was, it was really
Nannette (26:04):
had sexual assaults.
They had robberies.
It was, it was really ugly.
They were the first to gobecause they didn't have
anywhere to put them.
It was interesting too, becauseI, I was able to ask some
questions that I typicallywouldn't ask a black person just
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because I would be afraid to.
But I,
Brad (26:28):
Why do you think you would be afraid to?
Nannette (26:30):
I think because I think because Of what I've seen
on social media and stuff thatthey might take offense, but I
was able to ask her because shestarted talking about the
projects and and she said thatthat kids nowadays don't
understand where the projectscame from and why they were
there.
And she was.
56.
(26:51):
I know she was like two yearsyounger than me, so she's like
56.
And and it was late when she wasdriving with us, so she talked
to us for quite a while.
But she, she was explaining.
I said, so are the projects justlike low income housing?
And she's like, she's like, Yes.
And no, she's, she's like, yes,like the lowest of low income
housing.
(27:12):
And she's like, why do you nothave projects in Utah?
And I said, no, I've never, I'venever been to a project or known
what one was.
And, and I've kind of beennervous to even ask because you
see it on movies and stuff likethat, but you don't really
Brad (27:26):
don't really understand.
Well, they're, they're typicallygovernment funded housing
developments, right.
Or housing projects.
So the, The government cansubsidize rent and help people
live.
So it's, I mean, look, I I'vebeen in super, super, you know,
poor situations in my life wherewe had to get assistance to, to
live.
Nannette (27:46):
Oh, same.
And we lived in Californiathough, and they weren't
projects.
They were the same thing, butthey were just called low income
housing.
And, and we.
In my earliest marriages welived in low income housing.
I just wanted to know what thedifference was and she was
really kind, but she, to explainit, but she also said that the
projects began during the warand they were actually meant for
(28:08):
the military to live therebecause they the Louisiana area
is where they built ships forthe war,
Brad (28:13):
they built a lot of ships for the war.
Nannette (28:15):
which I thought was fascinating.
So that's how they originated.
And then then the governmentjust moved them in.
But she
Brad (28:21):
They're like, hey, we have these buildings, let's use them.
Nannette (28:23):
right.
She also said something reallyinteresting.
She said, she just shook herhead and she says, they let that
levy break.
They let it purposefully breakto get rid of the scum of this
city.
And then she just shook her headlike just in disgust.
And I was like, I, holy crap.
Like, I've never even thought ofthat, but looking at what the
(28:44):
government has done throughouttime, even since Katrina it
makes you really wonder, youknow, it makes you scratch your
head and be like, is that whatthey do to do a land grab, you
know, do they let naturaldisasters happen so they can
take over the land?
Cause
Brad (28:58):
the land?
Cause that's what she told us.
She had purchased that land.
She
Nannette (29:03):
Yeah.
Brad Pitt had grabbed that land.
Brad (29:06):
houses out there
Nannette (29:07):
And, and built some major houses out there and
stuff.
So like,
Brad (29:10):
us.
I tend to believe
Nannette (29:12):
no, that's what she had told us.
Yeah.
I tend to believe her.
She's pretty cool.
I don't think she has any reasonto lie, but I, I think it was
really interesting because shesaid that kids these days don't
know where their roots came fromor else they wouldn't act the
way that they do.
And, and I didn't, I don't know.
I was a big fan of both of ourLyft drivers.
They were very cool.
Brad (29:32):
And, and I didn't, I don't know.
I was a fan of both were verycool.
but their culture accepts, youknow, spirits in the past and
they're a little afraid of it,but they accept it where a lot
of the white people were justlike, yeah, no, I don't really
(29:55):
believe in that.
Nannette (29:56):
You know, it's, it's Halloween times and you look at
different cultures.
So like the show Coco, right.
They, they honor theirancestors.
They always talk about theirancestors.
There are different culturesthat are very into it.
And I've never been around aCajun culture or a black culture
to know how they do, you know,and so we found out that they
actually honor their ancestorsas well.
(30:17):
And they talk about them andthey love being able to see them
and feel them close, just likeus.
And I think
Brad (30:22):
Well, but they all said, they all said it scared them
though.
Nannette (30:25):
Oh yeah.
Oh
Brad (30:26):
It freaked them out.
And they'd rather not seeghosts, but they do see them.
Nannette (30:30):
But they do see them.
Yeah.
I, I think it's just really coolthat it happens to everyone, no
matter the culture, no matterthe people, it's who we are.
We're souls having a humanexperience and it doesn't
matter, you know, our skincolor, our religious beliefs, or
even how we're brought up.
It's just who we are.
And if we can unite with thatother side, it can be a pretty
(30:51):
rich life,
Brad (30:52):
you're in the right space, you're going to see that.
Nannette (30:55):
right?
Frequency, everything's aboutenergy, right?
Brad (30:58):
Absolutely is.
Nannette (30:59):
But yeah.
I highly recommend, uh, newOrleans.
If you're into the ghost thing,really awesome culture stuff.
Brad (31:07):
Food.
Nannette (31:08):
awesome.
Beignets
Brad (31:10):
Oysters.
Nannette (31:11):
chargrilled oysters.
Yeah.
Brad (31:13):
of it.
The food is just amazing.
Anyway, New Orleans is a very,very cool city.
Nannette (31:19):
Here's the thing though.
It's taken us five days torecover.
Brad (31:24):
Yeah.
Not
Nannette (31:25):
because of the alcohol or anything, but like our energy
has just been zapped.
Brad (31:28):
It was like we were around a bunch of energy vampires
there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, and I think there'ssomething to that and I Great.
And I don't think there arepeople who are alive.
I think it's, it's, uh, energysuckers from the other side.
I agree.
I agree.
Nannette (31:42):
suckers from the other side.
Brad (31:52):
in the brain,
Nannette (31:53):
people can have a really hard time.
And when I balanced Brad and I,after a couple of days, we were
so tired.
I didn't even do it when wefirst got back.
But after a couple of days, Ibalanced both of us and we both
had to have a brain integrationbalance from being in New
Orleans.
So kind of, if you're going togo put your protection up and
make sure that you're aware ofall of your surroundings
(32:14):
especially the ghosty ones,cause there's a lot of those.
Brad (32:18):
Yes, there are.
Well, I'll be going back inApril, so maybe some of those
places that uh, we didn't get tovisit, I'll make sure to go to.
Nannette (32:26):
so you're going without me for my birthday.
Brad (32:28):
your birthday.
Great.
I invited you.
And you said, I don't know if Iwant to
Nannette (32:33):
That's going to be hot.
Brad (32:34):
to be hot.
It
Nannette (32:36):
Yeah.
I think I'll go to Hawaii withKristen and Wylan.
Brad (32:39):
Hawaii with Kristen.
Dick move, Nan.
Ha ha ha.
Nannette (32:43):
I'm going to be a hot.
I want a beautiful beach andturtles and scuba diving and you
know, all the
Brad (32:49):
things.
Fair enough.
I'll go work.
You go
Nannette (32:52):
All right, bitches.
Brad (32:54):
Thank you so much, everyone for listening.
We're so grateful for you.
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Nannette (33:12):
and remember during this holiday season remember
who's important in your life andlet them know that you love them
both on the other side on thisone, and we'll see you.
Brad (33:21):
veil.
Last episode, we talked about our trip to New Orleans
(00:03):
and we covered our visit to
Nannette (00:05):
Muriel's, that's where, the seance room was and
we also ate dinner there andthat's also where the ghost
table is.
Yes.
Yeah, some crazy shit happenedthere.
Brad (00:17):
Also talked about how Nan had some ghostly encounters at
some of the other bars that wereon Bourbon Street.
But this week, we're going totalk about some really cool
places that we were able to seethat we had talked about
previously.
Nannette (00:34):
Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll
talk about spirituality, theparanormal religion, and my
journey going from Mormon tomedium.
I'm Nanette Wride.
Thanks for listening.
Now let's go have some fun.
(00:58):
So in previous episodes, wetalked about, the St.
Louis Cathedral, which was madea basilica, by the Catholic
church.
There's actually a statue outfront of the Pope with a couple
of little kids and all thethings.
And, I guess he came and visitedbut, in a couple of the places
that we studied, they had saidthat there was a big photograph
(01:20):
or painting of Pierre Antoine.
And so we searched high and lowin this
Brad (01:27):
Yeah, we were in the St.
Louis Cathedral looking all overthe place for this.
Nannette (01:31):
Yeah, we even asked someone that worked there and
and there is not a picture ofPierre Antoine.
But we did find Pierre Antoine'sname and Dagobert's name.
and and it was dated back in the1800s and it was the time that
they served.
So they had, you know, the, howthey, when they began and when
they ended on both of them.
So we did find their namesthere.
Brad (01:51):
Yeah, you know, interesting to me was that the
stained glass in the entirecathedral is not actually
stained glass.
It's actually just glass.
thats been painted.
And when we talked to one of therectors there, he let us know
that the Catholic Church hadactually removed all of the
stained glass and had it sentback to the Vatican, which is
super weird.
Nannette (02:10):
tell you why they did
Brad (02:11):
No, he didn't.
That
Nannette (02:13):
That seems so strange, maybe because of the hurricanes.
Brad (02:16):
I don't know.
I don't know.
We
Nannette (02:18):
we didn't, we did notice though, that it needs
some upkeep.
Brad (02:21):
need some upkeep.
Nannette (02:23):
Yeah.
I like the clock on the outsideof it's really rusty.
Some of the paint is, is peelinginside.
It's kind of sad because it's areally beautiful cathedral,
Brad (02:31):
Yeah, it is.
Well, and there's so muchhistory there.
Which is one of the main reasonswe went there, right?
Is because of that history andbecause of some of the ghosty
tales that you had heard about.
Nannette (02:42):
Right.
So if you remember right inprevious episodes, uh, Pierre
Antoine, was the, the friar orthe father or whatever you want
to call him.
that was in charge the day thatthe fire broke out, on Good
Friday.
And, he made the decision not toring the bell to warn the city
and the city burned down.
Brad (03:00):
Well, and not only did the city burn down, but they
attribute nearly 500 deaths tothat fire because he didn't ring
the
Nannette (03:08):
Because he didn't ring the bell.
Yeah.
And and here's here's how hot itgot.
The people were just crispy andparts of them were everywhere.
We found this out while we werethere in New Orleans.
And so rather than pick up thepieces and go properly bury them
because I mean, you can't putpieces together because there's
so many people they justbulldozed over it and Built the
city on top of it.
(03:29):
So think about that for asecond.
Cause that whole city is buriedon top of people that died in a
horrific way.
It is weird energy.
Brad (03:38):
and it's not only, that's not the only time, I mean, so
that particular area, thecathedral, was the place of
another basically mass murder.
Nannette (03:47):
Right.
So, To the, to the side of thecathedral, you, you've got the
Presbyter, and then on the otherside you have the Cabildo, and
these buildings are identical,okay, but the Cabildo the word
means council, and it was thelocation of the colonial
government, and when the Spanishfirst arrived after the 1762
(04:08):
treaty, it went from Frenchhands to Spanish hands.
So you had a lot of theFrenchmen that were pissed off.
They were, they were furious andthey had been traded in an act
of war.
and, and they were uninformed ofthe treaty for an entire year.
And so when they found out, theynaturally rebelled.
The Spanish had wished an end toall of this.
(04:28):
And so that they had a, theirvery best general, his name was
Don Alejandro Bloody O'Reilly.
Brad (04:34):
bloody O'Reilly.
So he was actually,
Nannette (04:36):
he
Brad (04:37):
he was Irish.
Nannette (04:39):
I don't know about
Brad (04:40):
He was probably a drinker too.
Well, his name was O'Reilly.
Nannette (04:43):
and bloody.
But, they wanted him to, toquash the rebellion that was
going on.
and he had arrived in 1769 with2, 000 troops.
After killing the first of therebelling Frenchmen he came
across, he invited the rest ofthe leaders of the French to
come to the Cabildo.
And he fed them and, and talkedto them and was really nice.
(05:05):
And then guess what he did?
Brad (05:06):
What?
Nannette (05:08):
he scurried right down.
Next to them, and he stayed trueto his name, he handcuffed the
men, brought them to theintersection of Esplanade Avenue
and Frenchman Street, where heexecuted all of them.
thus, bloody O'Reilly, he killedall the Frenchmen.
Brad (05:24):
Well, and one of the things we learned while we were
there is that he didn't justkill them.
He didn't just take them out andhang them.
He took them out and.
Very much tortured them and madeit bloody and made it a show so
that no one else would eventhink about revolting
Nannette (05:40):
Right.
And just a fun fact, themusically inclined Frenchman
Street, because you hear all themusic and stuff on Frenchmen it
is where the Frenchmen losttheir lives in the Spanish,
against the Spanish.
In the 18th century.
Brad (05:53):
Interesting then that's why it's Frenchmen Street
Nannette (05:54):
Uh huh.
So, so today, I didn't know thiswhen we were there, but it's,
the Cabeldo is actually a museumand it has hundreds of artifacts
and even has a bronze death maskthat belonged to Napoleon
Bonaparte.
So you won't want to miss it.
We missed it.
So.
Brad (06:14):
did miss it.
We didn't realize.
Nannette (06:17):
There was so much to do and I mean we walked 21
miles.
So there was so much.
We just didn't go in
Brad (06:23):
It's just, the architecture and everything,
it's just a beautiful city.
Nannette (06:27):
So beautiful.
The gardens are beautiful.
The people watching isuntouchable.
Brad (06:31):
but look, nobody's here really to hear about the
architecture or the peoplewatching.
They want to hear about theghosts.
Let's talk
Nannette (06:38):
Okay, so, so let's talk about Pirate Alley because
we didn't know the stories onPirate Alley other than, you
know, the, the, the, Booty
Brad (06:47):
pirates would sell their booty.
Nannette (06:49):
glue, the glory holes, right?
We didn't really understand, butwhen we were walking, it was, it
was nighttime.
It was dark and we were walkingdown pirate alley.
And there was just this one areawhere a phylo erection,
Brad (07:04):
like,
Nannette (07:05):
crazy energy.
We looked at each other, likeit's right here.
It's right.
Something happened, right.
Brad (07:10):
it's right here, it's right, something happened right
here.
Yeah,
Nannette (07:18):
Yeah.
So we ended up going on a tour,a ghost tour, and they took us
back to that place.
And there's an absinthe housethat's right there right now.
And if you don't know whatabsinthe is, it's a liquor that
smells just like absinthe.
And I guess it tastes just likeblack licorice and broadhead.
It's black licorice.
Even if I eat it, he won't
Brad (07:39):
Oh, it's so gross.
It is
Nannette (07:41):
I love black licorice, but I didn't taste it.
I just, you could smell it outon the street.
But, but we found out that.
This absinthe house, this barthat is right there on the
corner where we were feelingthis energy used to be a prison.
Brad (07:55):
So
Nannette (07:55):
there were men and women and children that were
held in this prison and it wasdeplorable conditions there.
So a lot of the people even diedin these cells under the
conditions.
And it could be for something assimple as stealing bread.
That these people were puttingthe, right, Lina's,
Brad (08:14):
Look down look down.
Nannette (08:17):
but, but that's why we're feeling what we were
feeling.
There was a lot of exchange thathappened there.
Brad (08:23):
there.
Well, and one thing aboutPirates Alley, people will go
there to get married becausethere's a certain spirit that
haunts the alley.
Even to this day, and peoplewill get their photos taken
during their weddings to see ifthey can capture his ghost in
these.
And he's got an interestingstory.
Nannette (08:43):
Yeah, there's a pirate by the last name of Hicks.
And actually he, he was a youngboy and he was captured by the
pirates.
So by Lafitte's, uh, group ofpirates as a young boy and he
was raised by the pirates.
So he soon became uh, anassistant or second in command
next to Lafitte.
So he worked right near Lafitteall the time.
(09:06):
and just as the war of 1812 wasstarting Hicks had fallen in
love with this beautiful,gorgeous Cajun woman.
And they were madly in love andthen she ended up being pregnant
and he didn't want his child tobe illegitimate.
And he, it meant a lot to himfor them to be married,
especially before he left forthe war.
(09:26):
So there was no preachers to befound anywhere.
And all they could find was aGerman preacher that was in a
gel cell.
So he actually is marriedbetween the bars.
They, they brought the preacherto the back part of the church.
Pirate's Alley, and he wasmarried through the, the gel
bars there in Pirate's Alley.
And and then he took off for thewar and they say that he was
(09:47):
killed in the war.
And so oftentimes they say it'seither Lafitte or Hicks that is
found walking in the earlymornings down Pirate's Alley.
And you can hear, uh, the bellsring, wedding bells ring and him
singing.
Sorry.
I kind of, I kind of go for,it's going to be Hicks, not
Lafitte,
Brad (10:04):
walking
Nannette (10:05):
That that's walking there because that's the last
time he was truly, truly happy.
Brad (10:08):
would make sense.
Well, and to be fair, we didn'thear singing, whistling, or
walking.
No,
Nannette (10:13):
No, but we felt that crazy energy through there and
it hit us all every single time.
Brad (10:19):
It did.
So that was definitely aninteresting area.
Yeah.
You
Nannette (10:25):
know what?
New Orleans is just full of thatinteresting energy.
It is crazy, bouncy, hauntedenergy everywhere.
Brad (10:31):
Yeah, it really, really is.
Well, and we didn't end there.
We also went to the LaLaurieMansion.
Nannette (10:39):
That was weird.
Yeah.
So the Lillaria mansion iscurrently up for sale.
It's been for sale for fiveyears.
It was 12.
5 million and now it's down to 9million.
Brad (10:52):
So
Nannette (10:53):
any of you want to buy a haunted mansion, there you go.
Brad (10:56):
Right.
Nannette (10:56):
It's really beautiful though.
It's locked up really tight, youknow, bars all around it, but
the courtyard is lit up so youcan see in and Our friends that
were with us got a beat on awindow that the, that the
curtains were moving.
Brad (11:10):
So the LaLaurie Mansion is way down Royal Street and it
gets pretty quiet.
There's not a lot of people downin that area.
We were down there pretty late.
Big, beautiful full moon.
So we got some really coolpictures with the mansion and
the big full moon behind it.
But you can just feel aheaviness.
It's heavy there.
Nannette (11:30):
It is heavy there.
And, you know, I think part ofme was a little feeling guilty
because we were there to seewhat we could feel.
And there were some horrificthings that happened there.
It's almost not right.
You know, in a way, I mean, Iknow, I know that they are
intentions are good, but thereare a lot of other people there
too, for the same reason.
(11:52):
And it was at a cost, a greatcost to these people that were
tortured just horrific.
I can't even believe anyonewould be so vile and brutal.
Evil that they could do thingslike they did to humans.
But the, the energy is reallycrazy there.
I have to back up because Imentioned in other episodes that
(12:12):
when we were talking about thelittle Laurie mansion and
looking into the history, I hada young black girl come to me.
She had little tiny pigtails andshe was maybe seven to 10 years
old.
And, and she showed up and I'mjust like, in my mind, I'm like
thinking, is she attached to theLaLaurie mansion?
If she is, why is she coming tome?
(12:34):
I mean, in my mind, if I can seeher here at my house, why can't
I help her here?
Why do I need to go there typeof thing?
And so I kind of just filed itaway and kind of was like, if
she's supposed to be with theLaLaurie mansion, we'll see when
we get there type of thing.
So when we got there.
there.
Kristen was actually talking toa girl by the front door where
they kept feeling like a coldspot.
(12:56):
And she, she was encouragingthese, this young girl that kept
telling her mom that she canfeel something in this one area.
I personally didn't feelanything.
And so I kind of smiled and wentand stood in a in a window well
to the Laurie mansion and justkind of got quiet for a second
and breathed.
And I shit you not, I had theyoung girl come through.
Brad (13:17):
to explain what you mean by a window well because people,
especially like in Utah orplaces that have basements, a
window well is very differentthan what you were
Nannette (13:25):
Oh, well, these aren't, this isn't a basement.
This is like, it starts at themain level and it's just kind of
like a doorway.
But it's a window.
And, and I just, they, they havebars on the windows and things
like that.
It's not like you can actuallyget into the place.
So I did some deep breaths andkind of blocked out everything
that was going on around me justso I could see if this girl goes
(13:48):
with the Lillory mansion andsure enough, she showed up and I
saw her, but she was on theother side of the window.
And I said, so what do you need?
And she started banging on thewindow and she says, let me out
and kept screaming, let me out.
And I kind of took me backbecause I was like, Oh, okay.
(14:13):
That that's just so weird.
Let me out.
Brad (14:15):
Like
Nannette (14:16):
How come she can't get out, but she could come to me
when I'm at home, but she can'tget out of the Lillari Mansion.
I'm like thinking it was kind ofodd.
So I kind of sat with it for aminute and I didn't really know
how to help because I could feelthere was like this block around
the whole place.
Like whoever's in there stayingin there and they're not getting
(14:37):
out type of thing.
I don't know if they've they'vehad it warded or whatever
they've done, but
Brad (14:43):
but which would make sense, right?
Nannette (14:45):
Yeah,
Brad (14:46):
Well, and I would even say that, you know, when, when, uh,
the fire broke out and theLaLauries were busted for what
they had done.
The townspeople destroyed theplace, right?
Nannette (14:58):
yeah.
Brad (14:59):
I could absolutely see them, you know, setting wards
and having, know, voodoopriestess come down to, you
know, to help make it safe.
Nannette (15:08):
Right, right.
Brad (15:09):
The
Nannette (15:10):
The thing that gets me, though, is if there's evil
energy in there or dark energyin there or even spirits left in
there why would you not clearthem or help them cross or just
completely clear the spacecompletely?
Why, why are they in there?
Why is someone that that's whereI was at, but it just didn't
feel right.
(15:30):
It just, I sat with it and wewatched the windows and we, we
kind of walked around the placefor a second and then headed
out.
But it kind of just ate at mebecause I was like, if I can
help, I want to help, but I'mnot feeling like I I'm being
instructed exactly what to do.
So, yeah, I think that.
It kind of felt like it was moreevil than, or dark energy than,
(15:54):
yeah.
We probably don't want that out.
Brad (15:56):
that out.
Well, and that's the thing.
If you look at the history ofthe
Nannette (16:04):
and that's the thing, if you look at the history of
the house, no one has livedthere for longer than five years
and most people that have livedthere have gone bankrupt or had
something horrific happen.
So it's like the house doesn'twant anybody there.
And it sat now for five years,so I'll bet you someone will buy
it and then they'll be there forless than five years and cycle
(16:24):
will keep happening happeningbecause it's been happening.
I mean, it was what once agirl's school, you said before.
Is that right?
Brad (16:33):
Yeah, it housed orphans for a time during shit, yellow
fever.
Nannette (16:37):
Yeah.
Brad (16:39):
it's been a number of different things.
Nannette (16:42):
Yeah.
So yeah, not a lot of goodthings have happened in that
house.
And anyway, we came to theconclusion that that was not, it
was, it was not a good energythere.
Brad (16:54):
Yeah, it wasn't an innocent energy that it, it may
have presented itself as.
And you know what, that, that'sa whole different take, right?
You know, how can that darkenergy present itself to be, you
know, innocent or good?
And does it happen often?
I mean, if
Nannette (17:10):
I mean, if you think about people, you know, there
can be innocent, looking peoplethat have dark intentions,
right?
So I mean, I think it justcrosses over to other energies
and spirits and stuff.
It's the same, same
Brad (17:27):
That makes sense.
I
Nannette (17:28):
thing in my world.
It's the same, same it's it'snot demons.
It's crazy.
It's dark energy.
It's dark choices.
It's it's imprints of bad thingsthat have happened.
And that naturally is going tobe like a darker entity.
Brad (17:42):
Got it.
that makes sense.
Nannette (17:43):
Crazy though.
Right.
And then we got to attend areally awesome, uh, parade.
Brad (17:51):
parade.
Yeah! We happened to be thereduring, well, and we talked
about that a little bit, justthe big, awesome New Orleans
parade that they were doing for,uh, Halloween.
it was so much fun.
Not, uh, not very many paradesyou go to where they
Nannette (18:07):
Yeah.
Our friends were like, so it wasKristen's birthday and our
friends were like, we're goingto go see a parade.
Yay.
We're like, Oh no, no, no.
New Orleans parades are verydifferent.
And we did some lives if you goand look, it was at the
beginning of the parades.
But they went for hours andhours and yeah, mini bottles
(18:29):
moon pies.
Peeps, beads, like all differentkinds of really cool stuff.
I mean, it is just junk, butit's really fun.
Cause they throw it all in theair and you catch them.
And the cool thing too, iseveryone in the parade was
dressed up like Halloween stuff.
Brad (18:45):
Yeah, it was really a lot of fun.
Nannette (18:47):
And my favorite were all of the really older men that
were overweight and they weredancing.
Brad (18:54):
What were they called?
Because they had a, do youremember?
I
Nannette (18:57):
remember, but I was dying laughing.
It was so funny.
Brad (19:03):
Yeah, it was awesome because you had all walks of
life there.
Everyone was just at the parade,enjoying themselves, having fun.
And.
It just felt good.
You know, it was just goodenergy.
People were happy.
It was Kristen's birthday.
Everybody showed up for herbirthday cause they love her.
And, uh, you know, it just verydifferent than like parades
(19:27):
you'd get here in Utah wherethey're just so boring.
They're It
Nannette (19:39):
didn't feel like that.
I didn't feel like it was awalking billboard.
Brad (19:42):
Well, it was a walking billboard because they were, you
know, sponsored by MonsterEnergy, sponsored by Rockstar,
sponsored by So, every float andeverything, it was a walking
billboard.
It just, they covered it up alot better by throwing cool
shit.
Nannette (19:56):
And dancing and having fun.
Oh my gosh, so fun.
Brad (20:00):
wasn't just an old car with a sign on it.
It was, people actually had fun.
Nannette (20:04):
So.
Brad (20:05):
we're
Nannette (20:06):
We went through the garden district too.
We, we got on a trolley and thisis where Kristen lost her penis.
And she was super sad on herbirthday.
She lost
Brad (20:16):
lost it.
Oh, it's detachable.
Yeah.
Detachable penis.
Ha
Nannette (20:20):
We had to buy her a new one.
Anyways, what did, what did youfeel about the garden district?
What did you think?
Brad (20:26):
Do you know, I, I would have liked to have had a car to
be able to drive through thearea, I think.
There were some big, beautifulhomes.
I mean, but that's, you know,and we got to see the college
and it's, it's a beautiful area,but I, I had expected more and
maybe it's because of the timeof year we went, it was starting
(20:46):
to get cold.
And so it wasn't as overgrownand luscious.
Maybe it usually is.
Nannette (20:52):
I thought that their yards were really beautiful.
And that I was disappointed thatall of the cemeteries were
locked.
Brad (20:59):
Yeah, all the cemeteries we went to were all locked up.
Nannette (21:03):
And you had to have a tour guide to take you in, and
they were all booked.
So we didn't get to go into acemetery, which totally sucks.
I mean, Brad and I have been inone, but in the St.
Louis Cemetery One, we've beenin one the first time we went to
New Orleans.
But I was hoping Kristen andWylan would have been able to
see a cemetery, but they wereall locked.
Brad (21:23):
But we got to see'em from the outside.
Nannette (21:25):
Yeah, and we met some really cool people that were
doing the same thing we were.
Brad (21:28):
Yeah.
Looking through the gates going,wow, that looks really cool.
Well, the crazy thing is the, itsaid it was closed for
renovation, but there was no oneworking in there.
No.
It was literally just locked.
Nannette (21:39):
Yeah.
Kind of disappointing.
You know, the thing that got metoo was the homeless that were
there,
Brad (21:45):
A lot of homeless,
Nannette (21:46):
a lot of homeless people.
And I mean, we even walked pastsome churches during the
evenings and there were homelesspeople on the steps of the
church asleep.
And I, I was like, they shouldbe in the church, you know, on
the pews or whatever.
They, They shouldn't be, we'reAmericans.
We shouldn't be sleeping on thestreet.
What the fuck?
Brad (22:04):
Yeah,
Nannette (22:04):
That's disturbing me.
It's really sad.
And then there's our Lyftdrivers.
We had some really cool
Brad (22:10):
my
Nannette (22:10):
drivers.
Brad (22:13):
Yeah, so we've got to tell stories about this.
So we had a couple of Lyftdrivers that were just so much
fun.
So I'm going to start with thelast one first.
He drove us to the airport andas we're driving out, we're
talking and you know, the wholespirits of New Orleans comes up
and he starts telling us how hewould feel his uncle because he
(22:34):
was.
Yeah.
The executor of his uncle'sestate and he took the money and
bought a plot in one of thecemeteries because his uncle had
always wanted the family to havea plot in the cemetery, but his
family was upset with himbecause he had done this and he
just was like talking to hisuncle like, did I do the right
thing?
Did I make you happy?
And he just got, he was able to,he actually said he saw his
(22:55):
uncle.
And the uncle just smiled andnodded at him, and he knew that
he had made the right choice.
Like, so cool.
Nannette (23:04):
Yeah, really, really cool.
And I never realized how peoplein the South, especially black
people in the South are soaccepting of the paranormal.
And because the people that weran into, they, they didn't act
like there was a division in, incolor or in belief systems or
anything like that.
We were all just Americans andwe were just having fun.
(23:26):
Both of our drivers were botholder.
One was a woman, one was the manthat Brad was just talking
about.
The guy super cool, reallyawesome energy and had cornrows
and longer hair.
So you wouldn't think he waslike, I think he said he was 46.
Brad (23:40):
Oh my gosh.
He looked like he was in histwenties.
Nannette (23:43):
Yeah,
Brad (23:43):
genetics.
In fact, speaking of genetics,he was telling us a story and
this is awesome.
So he said that during Katrina,everyone was displaced, right?
You couldn't find family.
There was no cell for service.
It was just a nightmare tryingto get everyone back together.
So he's with his uncle and someof his family.
They're trying to find grandma.
They couldn't find his grandma.
(24:03):
Anywhere.
Well, he had heard through thegrapevine that some of the
people from her area had beentaken to LSU to stay in the
stadium where the athletes wouldstay.
They had like dorms in thestadium, so he loads up in the
car with his with his uncles togo down and see if Grandma's
there.
As they're driving through theneighborhood, they see these
(24:27):
ladies out playing cards andhe's like, I think that's
grandma and sure shit.
It was so they were able toreunite with her.
But as they pull up to get her,she looks at him and she goes,
You can keep on driving cause Ididn't call y'all mother mother
motherfuckers to come get me.
(24:48):
She was enjoying herself withthe ladies just playing cards.
He's like, my grandma was agangster.
She used to carry around a 45.
You didn't mess with my grandma.
Nannette (24:57):
Exactly right.
She didn't feel like she was indanger at all, but there were
like, you know, convicts thatwere displaced And, and it was,
it was crazy
Brad (25:06):
was, it was crazy out there.
You know, criminals and everyonewas in there and maybe I
shouldn't say it like that, butthey literally had predators in
there who were committing sexualassaults, who were victimizing
(25:26):
people while they were at thelowest low of their lives.
And you had these, thesehorrible people who decided that
they were just going to makeRight.
Nannette (25:43):
other states.
And Utah was one of the statesthat got
Brad (25:46):
you talk out a lot of people.
We, we actually flew people infrom New Orleans to Utah.
They all stayed at campWilliams.
They had camp Williams set upwith cots all through the
buildings to house people.
And they had the same type ofthing happened there.
It was, you know, they hadsexual assaults, they had
robberies.
It was, it was really
Nannette (26:04):
had sexual assaults.
They had robberies.
It was, it was really ugly.
They were the first to gobecause they didn't have
anywhere to put them.
It was interesting too, becauseI, I was able to ask some
questions that I typicallywouldn't ask a black person just
(26:25):
because I would be afraid to.
But I,
Brad (26:28):
Why do you think you would be afraid to?
Nannette (26:30):
I think because I think because Of what I've seen
on social media and stuff thatthey might take offense, but I
was able to ask her because shestarted talking about the
projects and and she said thatthat kids nowadays don't
understand where the projectscame from and why they were
there.
And she was.
56.
(26:51):
I know she was like two yearsyounger than me, so she's like
56.
And and it was late when she wasdriving with us, so she talked
to us for quite a while.
But she, she was explaining.
I said, so are the projects justlike low income housing?
And she's like, she's like, Yes.
And no, she's, she's like, yes,like the lowest of low income
housing.
(27:12):
And she's like, why do you nothave projects in Utah?
And I said, no, I've never, I'venever been to a project or known
what one was.
And, and I've kind of beennervous to even ask because you
see it on movies and stuff likethat, but you don't really
Brad (27:26):
don't really understand.
Well, they're, they're typicallygovernment funded housing
developments, right.
Or housing projects.
So the, The government cansubsidize rent and help people
live.
So it's, I mean, look, I I'vebeen in super, super, you know,
poor situations in my life wherewe had to get assistance to, to
live.
Nannette (27:46):
Oh, same.
And we lived in Californiathough, and they weren't
projects.
They were the same thing, butthey were just called low income
housing.
And, and we.
In my earliest marriages welived in low income housing.
I just wanted to know what thedifference was and she was
really kind, but she, to explainit, but she also said that the
projects began during the warand they were actually meant for
(28:08):
the military to live therebecause they the Louisiana area
is where they built ships forthe war,
Brad (28:13):
they built a lot of ships for the war.
Nannette (28:15):
which I thought was fascinating.
So that's how they originated.
And then then the governmentjust moved them in.
But she
Brad (28:21):
They're like, hey, we have these buildings, let's use them.
Nannette (28:23):
right.
She also said something reallyinteresting.
She said, she just shook herhead and she says, they let that
levy break.
They let it purposefully breakto get rid of the scum of this
city.
And then she just shook her headlike just in disgust.
And I was like, I, holy crap.
Like, I've never even thought ofthat, but looking at what the
(28:44):
government has done throughouttime, even since Katrina it
makes you really wonder, youknow, it makes you scratch your
head and be like, is that whatthey do to do a land grab, you
know, do they let naturaldisasters happen so they can
take over the land?
Cause
Brad (28:58):
the land?
Cause that's what she told us.
She had purchased that land.
She
Nannette (29:03):
Yeah.
Brad Pitt had grabbed that land.
Brad (29:06):
houses out there
Nannette (29:07):
And, and built some major houses out there and
stuff.
So like,
Brad (29:10):
us.
I tend to believe
Nannette (29:12):
no, that's what she had told us.
Yeah.
I tend to believe her.
She's pretty cool.
I don't think she has any reasonto lie, but I, I think it was
really interesting because shesaid that kids these days don't
know where their roots came fromor else they wouldn't act the
way that they do.
And, and I didn't, I don't know.
I was a big fan of both of ourLyft drivers.
They were very cool.
Brad (29:32):
And, and I didn't, I don't know.
I was a fan of both were verycool.
but their culture accepts, youknow, spirits in the past and
they're a little afraid of it,but they accept it where a lot
of the white people were justlike, yeah, no, I don't really
(29:55):
believe in that.
Nannette (29:56):
You know, it's, it's Halloween times and you look at
different cultures.
So like the show Coco, right.
They, they honor theirancestors.
They always talk about theirancestors.
There are different culturesthat are very into it.
And I've never been around aCajun culture or a black culture
to know how they do, you know,and so we found out that they
actually honor their ancestorsas well.
(30:17):
And they talk about them andthey love being able to see them
and feel them close, just likeus.
And I think
Brad (30:22):
Well, but they all said, they all said it scared them
though.
Nannette (30:25):
Oh yeah.
Oh
Brad (30:26):
It freaked them out.
And they'd rather not seeghosts, but they do see them.
Nannette (30:30):
But they do see them.
Yeah.
I, I think it's just really coolthat it happens to everyone, no
matter the culture, no matterthe people, it's who we are.
We're souls having a humanexperience and it doesn't
matter, you know, our skincolor, our religious beliefs, or
even how we're brought up.
It's just who we are.
And if we can unite with thatother side, it can be a pretty
(30:51):
rich life,
Brad (30:52):
you're in the right space, you're going to see that.
Nannette (30:55):
right?
Frequency, everything's aboutenergy, right?
Brad (30:58):
Absolutely is.
Nannette (30:59):
But yeah.
I highly recommend, uh, newOrleans.
If you're into the ghost thing,really awesome culture stuff.
Brad (31:07):
Food.
Nannette (31:08):
awesome.
Beignets
Brad (31:10):
Oysters.
Nannette (31:11):
chargrilled oysters.
Yeah.
Brad (31:13):
of it.
The food is just amazing.
Anyway, New Orleans is a very,very cool city.
Nannette (31:19):
Here's the thing though.
It's taken us five days torecover.
Brad (31:24):
Yeah.
Not
Nannette (31:25):
because of the alcohol or anything, but like our energy
has just been zapped.
Brad (31:28):
It was like we were around a bunch of energy vampires
there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, and I think there'ssomething to that and I Great.
And I don't think there arepeople who are alive.
I think it's, it's, uh, energysuckers from the other side.
I agree.
I agree.
Nannette (31:42):
suckers from the other side.
Brad (31:52):
in the brain,
Nannette (31:53):
people can have a really hard time.
And when I balanced Brad and I,after a couple of days, we were
so tired.
I didn't even do it when wefirst got back.
But after a couple of days, Ibalanced both of us and we both
had to have a brain integrationbalance from being in New
Orleans.
So kind of, if you're going togo put your protection up and
make sure that you're aware ofall of your surroundings
(32:14):
especially the ghosty ones,cause there's a lot of those.
Brad (32:18):
Yes, there are.
Well, I'll be going back inApril, so maybe some of those
places that uh, we didn't get tovisit, I'll make sure to go to.
Nannette (32:26):
so you're going without me for my birthday.
Brad (32:28):
your birthday.
Great.
I invited you.
And you said, I don't know if Iwant to
Nannette (32:33):
That's going to be hot.
Brad (32:34):
to be hot.
It
Nannette (32:36):
Yeah.
I think I'll go to Hawaii withKristen and Wylan.
Brad (32:39):
Hawaii with Kristen.
Dick move, Nan.
Ha ha ha.
Nannette (32:43):
I'm going to be a hot.
I want a beautiful beach andturtles and scuba diving and you
know, all the
Brad (32:49):
things.
Fair enough.
I'll go work.
You go
Nannette (32:52):
All right, bitches.
Brad (32:54):
Thank you so much, everyone for listening.
We're so grateful for you.
Uh, make sure that you like theshow.
Make sure that you follow us onour social media, and make sure
that you refer us to yourfriends.
Let them know that you love thispodcast and you think they will
too.
Remember
Nannette (33:12):
and remember during this holiday season remember
who's important in your life andlet them know that you love them
both on the other side on thisone, and we'll see you.
Brad (33:21):
veil.
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