November 7, 2024 • 28 mins
Join Nanette and Brad on the Mormon to Medium Podcast as they dive into spirituality, the paranormal, and their personal journeys. In this episode, they discuss their love for the holidays, the emotional struggles during this time, and the importance of gratitude. They share heartwarming stories about family and ancestors, emphasizing the need to honor and remember our loved ones. With a mix of fun, laughter, and deep reflection, Nanette and Brad provide valuable insights on navigating the holiday blues and the power of connections, both in this life and beyond.
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Nannette (00:01):
Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll
talk about spirituality, theparanormal religion, and my
journey going from Mormon tomedium.
I'm Nanette Wride.
Thanks for listening.
Now let's go have some fun.
Brad (00:27):
Welcome everyone! This is the Mormon to Medium Podcast and
we are so thrilled and excitedbecause that's what you're
supposed to say when you start apodcast.
I'm so excited to be here.
Nannette (00:38):
Really?
Brad (00:39):
Well, look, here's my big thing is I'm excited that we are
almost to Thanksgiving andChristmas.
And we just finished off.
Halloween and the day of thedead.
And this last few months of theyear is always so cool.
I love the holidays.
Nannette (00:56):
Oh, seeped in tradition and family and
connectedness.
Yeah, we've got a lot going on.
It's, I think it's exciting.
It's an exciting time of year.
Brad (01:04):
Yeah.
And you know, the sad thing isthere are so many people out
there who, who associate theholidays with
Nannette (01:11):
trauma
Brad (01:12):
trauma and sadness, or, well, I've got to choose one
family or the other, rather thanlooking at it and going, Oh my
gosh, I have the opportunity tospend time with family, or I
have the opportunity to do this,or just loving, you know, the
smell of pumpkin spice andpeppermint or, or whatever.
(01:34):
You know what I mean?
It's, it's, uh, it's sad when,
Nannette (01:39):
this time
Brad (01:40):
this time of year is depressing for folks.
I, I, I wish that it wasn't.
Nannette (01:44):
Okay, I, I want to touch on that for a minute
because it really is and it.
It has actually been somethingthat's been really hard for me
in our marriage, because I knowthat Corey's death day is four
months away when September hits.
And so I have his birthday inSeptember.
We have Halloween, we haveThanksgiving, we have Christmas,
(02:05):
and then he dies.
So
Brad (02:07):
and you have your anniversary,
Nannette (02:08):
well, and my anniversary is December 23rd.
So, I always want to run inDecember and I can, we sat down
to do the podcast today and Ilooked at Brad and I'm like, I
can feel, I can feel it coming.
I can, I can feel all of thoseemotions rushing in and it feels
like somebody just flushed thetoilet and I'm going around the
balls like shit.
(02:30):
But holidays can be really,really hard.
But I think one thing thatyou've taught me, Brad because
there's been a lot of timeswhere family can't be here with
us or we have celebratedholidays, just me and you and
our little Papa.
And what you just said earlieris, is really important.
You celebrate with those thatyou can celebrate with.
And not everyone is at the pointwhere you're at.
(02:53):
So, just be grateful for thepeople that you do have around
you and the friends that youhave around you.
Cause not all family is blood.
Brad (03:01):
That's a good point too.
Nannette (03:02):
So yeah,
Brad (03:04):
You know, we, we pick up a lot of, a lot of people along
our journey, right?
Nannette (03:09):
we have some of the most wonderful friends and I've
never really had friends until Imet you.
Like I had acquaintances, butnot
Brad (03:16):
that,
Nannette (03:17):
Friends that, you know, if my shirt gets stuck on
my shoulders and my boobs arehanging out, I can actually call
my friend across the street andbe like, Help! I can't breathe
and I can't get it off! It is!
Brad (03:33):
super graceful and, uh, Yeah, I'll let you tell the
story, because I wasn't home, soI couldn't help you.
Nannette (03:39):
Brad.
Brad wasn't home and so I wear,when I work, I wear like yoga
stuff and so a lot of my stuffhas like the built-in bras and
so very elastic.
Okay.
and I, I have big shoulders andsometimes things get.
Doc on my shoulders and I can't,I'm not, I can't like pull them
(04:00):
up.
Like I get stuck and there'vebeen a lot of times where I've
gone into Brad and been like,help me pull this over my head.
And he just laughs, but hewasn't at home and this
happened.
And I
Brad (04:09):
also very flexible.
Nannette (04:13):
I literally was just stuck and I, I tried for like 10
minutes and couldn't get it off.
And at this point I'm startingto have labored breathing and
I'm like, okay, so
Brad (04:23):
she's panicked.
Nannette (04:24):
I, I'm panicking at this point.
So I call my neighbor across thestreet.
And she comes running over andshe's laughing her ass off as
she helps me pull my stuff overmy shoulders.
And I mean, I'm sitting therewith nothing on other than the
stuff stuck on me, but she'sjust laughing her butt off.
And those are,
Brad (04:43):
You're like, Renee, help me! me!
Nannette (04:47):
still teases me because sometimes I can be
really, really dumb, but that'sokay.
It's just me.
Yeah.
But those are good friends.
Really, really good friends thatyou can count on.
Like when Brad goes out of town,he's going out of town today.
I have a backup husband.
I have a couple of them acrossthe street.
If something happens or I feelunsafe, I can call them and I
know they will come over andhelp me.
(05:08):
So
Brad (05:09):
we've got great friends and neighbors.
It really is remarkable.
Yep,
Nannette (05:27):
all over the world.
Brad (05:28):
you know who you are.
Nannette (05:29):
Yeah, we're super grateful.
This is time to be grateful
Brad (05:33):
It is.
It absolutely is.
So, and those who, who do feel alittle bit blue, how do you, how
do you get through that Nan?
What, what is your suggestion?
And then I know maybe you'relike, I don't know, how the hell
do I answer when it happens tome?
But how would you suggest peopleget through the holidays when
they struggle with them?
Nannette (05:52):
You know, sometimes it's just an hour by hour thing
or a day to day thing.
You take baby steps through thatkind of stuff.
But when you start to feelfeelings like that it's an
invitation to heal somethingand, and it's really hard to sit
in that.
But if you can go inside andremember that gratitude, love,
and abundance are all the samevibration.
(06:14):
Just sit in your gratitude andit'll help shift you out.
I, that's what I've learned todo in the last 10 years because
I've had some really, really,really hard years.
And like I said, this morning, Ican feel, I can feel it.
I can feel Corey's death coming.
Got some emotion.
And I hate it.
Absolutely hate that I can feelit, but I'm going to sit in
gratitude because I have a lotof love around me.
(06:35):
I have a lot of really goodpeople and that's, what's going
to get me through.
And that's what we'll geteveryone through sitting
gratitude, even if it's babysteps of gratitude.
Like I got up today and I put mysocks on, you know, or I had a
really good cup of coffee or Ihave a really awesome Papa or I
live in a beautiful home or I SI felt the sunshine on my face.
(06:56):
Find those little things thatyou're grateful for so that you
can rise, rise.
Raise your vibration and be ableto step out of that grief.
But you know, being withoutfamily is a loss and it's a
grief and it's to be felt aswell.
So, but, but let your familyknow that you love them as much
as you can, even if they'reassholes, right?
Brad (07:21):
family.
You might not always like them.
But yeah, you'll always lovethem.
And it is, to your point, it'ssuper important to let the
people who you love know thatyou love and appreciate them.
Right.
I mean, because you're notguaranteed any extra time.
Ever.
No.
No.
And
Nannette (07:39):
No, no, and I think that that's what one of the
biggest lessons that Corey'sdeath taught our family Is is to
stand in that light and to letpeople know that you love them
It's it's really good to havegood boundaries with people that
are the assholes, right?
Right.
But you can still love them at adistance that keeps you safe.
(08:00):
But let everybody know how youfeel about them and stand in
that gratitude because it doesget you through the holidays.
And if you get lonely, we'retaking in strays.
and we
Brad (08:13):
Well, and, and look, here's something that's really
interesting.
So we just mentioned that wejust got through Halloween and
Day of the Dead and, and wetotally sidetracked because
that's what we were going totalk about is, Hey, let's talk
about the Day of the Dead andlet's talk about honoring our
ancestors today.
And somehow we just jump intothis other
Nannette (08:32):
it was you.
It was you.
You always sidetrack.
Brad (08:34):
gonna blame
Nannette (08:35):
Oh, totally.
But you know what?
I want to open it today of thedead with the fact that we were
waking up this morning reallyearly and it was still dark.
And.
Brad's grandmother poppedthrough and I know her because
I've seen her before and I'vedone a reading with Brad before
and she's shown up So I know herby just the look and she popped
in and had a great big hugesmile And I told him I said, oh
(08:58):
your grandma's here and she'ssmiling I said you need to take
time today to get to feel her.
And what did you say when we satdown?
Brad (09:06):
So my grandma and I were super close, like really, really
close.
She was my, you know, if I evergot in a fight with my mom, I
would run away to grandma'sright.
She just lived down the road.
And so I would pack up myovernight bag and I would run
away to grandma's and she wouldjust take care of me.
And we.
always had so much fun together,whether it was just watching TV
(09:30):
or a movie or going camping orsitting on the patio and just
listening to the, the birds singand reading books together.
She was,
Nannette (09:42):
well and she'd walk you to school.
Brad (09:44):
she was amazing.
She, well she would, when I wasin junior high, she would
literally make me breakfastevery day before I went to
school.
I would, I would get up and getready and I would walk to
grandma's house.
And she would have breakfastthere for
Nannette (09:57):
I love grandmas like that.
Brad (09:59):
And then my, and then my friend Ryan, and we've talked
about, wow.
Nannette (10:10):
It's okay.
Brad (10:15):
And then Ryan would meet me at grandma's and we'd finish
walking the rest of the way toschool.
Nannette (10:22):
Now Ryan's one of Brad's really good friends that
has passed as well.
Brad (10:25):
so, yeah, that's a, that's a big memory today.
Nannette (10:28):
Yeah.
That's what you get for lightingup the altars, mister.
Brad (10:36):
Yeah.
Nannette (10:37):
So, uh, why would your grandma show up this morning?
Brad (10:40):
grandma So Yeah, this is a special time of the year.
Obviously, you know, we justfinished with Halloween, right?
Which is such a cool holiday.
You know, it's very non secularnow, but once upon a time, it
was a Celtic holiday.
You knew that right now.
Nannette (10:54):
a time it was a Celtic holiday.
You knew that
Brad (11:00):
Well, I'm doing the weave here.
So, so there's a couple ofthings that happened.
Nannette (11:12):
Okay.
Brad (11:14):
died.
Grandpa Zeman died Halloweennight.
November 2nd is grandma'sbirthday.
And that's also part of the dayof the dead, right, where we
honor our ancestors.
And, uh, so I was lighting upour altar yesterday and, and so
in our home, we have an areawhere we have pictures of our
(11:36):
ancestors and our loved ones whohave passed.
And part of that altar is, youknow, we'll.
Put small offerings out, whetherit's something that helps us
remember them.
Like my grandpa, I have one ofhis below bolo ties and
harmonica, and we'll put thatout for him.
Or, you know, I have a littleShakespeare book for my grandma,
(11:58):
just little things like that.
Nan has a Mountain Dew for Coreyand.
You know, it's it's things thatthey they loved in in this life
or things that remind us of themso we can tell Stories about
them and we can reminisce andremember them
Nannette (12:13):
them.
When we do that though, don'tyou feel them just come in so
strong?
Brad (12:17):
Oh, always every time.
And you know, one of the thingswith honoring the ancestors like
that, and it's a ritual that hastaken place in so many different
cultures, right?
You know, we, we credit day ofthe dead to that the ancient
Aztecs and because that's kindof where that particular portion
came from.
(12:37):
But there are cultures aroundthe world who do very similar.
Rituals, right?
They, the Chinese do it, the,you know, Indians do it.
It's, uh, Native Americans doit.
It's, you know, it's, it's soprevalent to honor those
ancestors because they're partof our team, right?
And
Nannette (12:56):
But, but Western the Western world doesn't do it.
I,
Brad (13:02):
think that they don't do it maybe in the same manner, but
they do it because think aboutthis.
We do, we have our cemeteries.
Right.
And we have like Memorial Dayand I think that that is, you
know, the, the Western conceptof doing the same thing.
We'd go and put flowers on thegraves, right?
(13:23):
You go and you clean thegravestones every Memorial Day.
At least I, I remember doingthat with grandma.
We would go and we'd clean the,the, the, the headstones and
we'd take flowers You know, tohonor those ancestors, it's just
a little different way of doingit, right?
So, with the altar and lightingthe candles and, burning, you
know, incense or kopal or, uh,palisanto or sage or whatever
(13:45):
you choose to do, and sendingthose prayers to, to the
ancestors and helping them findtheir way back to you.
It's kind of the idea of that,but it's something that we do
Nannette (13:56):
All year.
Brad (13:56):
yeah, we, we basically do it all year.
We, we try to make sure thatthey are part of our home
always.
And so when we have, you know,grandkids come over or even our
kids come over, they can look atthe pictures and go, okay, now
who was this?
And I can go, Oh, that was, thatwas my grandpa's mom and dad, or
that was my grandma's mom anddad.
And that was my grandma's.
(14:19):
Grandma, you know, I, it's, it'sreally cool to have some of
those photos and
Nannette (14:24):
Well, and to keep the stories alive too, because you
tell the stories and they justlive on.
And so it makes them tangible,but we celebrate we light up our
altar all through the year forall the holidays, but for their
birthdays death days and we'lljust do, you know, stuff around
the one person's on birthdaysand death days candles and
offerings and things so that welet them know that we haven't
(14:46):
forgotten them and we love themand we want them around.
We know that they're part of ourteam, but it, it strengthens
that bond.
Bond, I think you tell me whatyou think, but it strengthens
the bond on a day to day becausethey're always a part of us.
And when we talk about them allthe time, it's as if they're
still alive in here with us.
I mean, and they are here withus, but we just keep their
(15:08):
memory more alive and fresh andtangible.
Brad (15:11):
Yeah, you know, I, I read something that was similar to
the effect that
Nannette (15:17):
people
Brad (15:18):
people.
Aren't really dead until youforget about them.
Nannette (15:24):
Right.
Brad (15:25):
Because they're always alive in your heart and in your
mind and in those stories thatlive on.
And once those stories are gone,that's when someone's dead.
Nannette (15:36):
Right.
Well, and words are power,right?
So those stories are powerfuland, and they go on and on and
on.
It's like, some of the people wemet in Orleans, you know, that
they're like people, kids thesedays don't know their history.
They don't know why we do thethings that we do right now in
our culture.
(15:56):
They don't know where theorigins come from.
And so by keeping you know,honoring our dead and keeping
their stories alive, it remindsthe kids growing up where they
come from and where their rootsare from.
And it's so important.
You feel her, don't you?
Brad (16:12):
Yeah, so I'm going to tell you a story.
Nannette (16:15):
Okay.
Old Town
Brad (16:16):
Grandma and Grandpa grew up in, you know, the little town
of Spanish Fork.
It was just a tiny little townat the time and they, like the
whole town would go to Payson tothese dances because they had a
dance hall.
And Grandma and her friend werewalking to the train or they
might have even just beenwalking to go to the dance.
(16:38):
And, uh, grandpa and his brotherwere driving and they pulled up
in their little car and said,are you going to the dance?
Yeah, we are.
Well, would you like a ride?
Nannette (16:47):
a ride?
Brad (16:48):
Well, yeah, they didn't want to walk.
So of course they, they acceptthe ride.
Even, you know, here's these twostrangers.
They don't know who they are,but they get a ride with, with
grandpa and his brother, uh, togo to the dance.
And, uh, they're talking in theback of the car and, you know,
in the backseat and a littlerumble seat and saying, you
know, yeah, when we, when we, weget there, let's ditch these
(17:10):
boys and, and, you know, go havefun.
Right.
Well, they get there and theyjust kind of try and ditch them.
And grandma goes to the, to thebathroom and just hides out in
the bathroom.
Yup.
And when she comes out,grandpa's standing right there.
And he looks at her and goes,are you ready to dance yet?
(17:31):
And, uh, she said she dancedwith him and he was the best
dancer.
And she just fell in love fromthat point on.
But yeah, it's, it's memorieslike that and stories that, uh,
They keep them alive.
And I would like to think thatthat's exactly what grandpa told
her when she passed, you know,are you ready to dance?
Nannette (17:54):
Yeah.
Now I know where you get yourmoves from, babe.
Brad's a really good dancer.
Brad (18:01):
I'm a cheese ball dancer.
Nannette (18:05):
This is
Brad (18:06):
Wow.
This is an emotional show.
I, I don't know how much of thisis going to make it off the
cutting room
Nannette (18:12):
all going on every single tiny bit.
She's going to make you cry allday, Brad.
It's called love.
Yeah.
What
Brad (18:23):
Whoa.
Okay.
So when we light up the altar,what stories come to your mind?
Nannette (18:29):
Oh, so many.
I mean, it just depends on whichone we're talking about because
we've got everybody from cousinsto uncles to aunts to
grandparents to friends, youknow, Everyone and each one has
a different story.
So it's just, I think thesefeelings of love that we feel
(18:49):
right now about yourgrandparents I think we fill
them with each story and eachperson because they come, their
essence, their spirit comesright in and it's like, yeah, I
remember this and they surroundus with their love.
That's a heck of a heavenly hugif you ask me.
Brad (19:05):
you know,
Nannette (19:06):
Yeah.
Brad (19:06):
that and you go, Oh my God, I miss them so much.
I wish I could just give them ahug, but they're there.
They're right here.
They're with you.
And it's funny because, like,when I lit things up the other
day, you know, I'm like, Hey,please, ancestors, help.
You know, so and so in thefamily.
(19:27):
And, and, uh, I put a fewdifferent requests out there
and,
Nannette (19:33):
And,
Brad (19:33):
and, you know, you hear the follow up and you go, wow,
okay, thank you.
Thank you for helping.
And, uh, they're there, they'rethere.
You just have to reach out, letthem know.
I mean, it's a lot of peoplepray to God, right?
Nannette (19:47):
It's
Brad (19:48):
And it's really the same idea.
You know, just thank yourancestors.
They're there for you.
Just like, like God is.
Yeah,
Nannette (19:54):
we're all connected to our source, so it's the same,
same with the prayers that youhad with the ancestors, you had
asked them to help certainfamily members.
I remember cause last night Ihad, I had said exactly what you
had said and it kind of freakedyou out a little
Brad (20:14):
It was, yeah, like the exact verbiage that I said to
the ancestors, Nan's like, soand so needs to just learn how
to do such and such.
And I'm like, Holy shit.
That is the exact thing I saidjust a couple hours ago when I
lit the altar.
It was crazy, but it's maybethat's just because we've been
(20:36):
together so long and we're so intune with
Nannette (20:38):
tune.
We do finish each other'ssentences.
Brad (20:42):
was, uh, yeah, it's, it's surprising sometimes
Nannette (20:46):
I love us.
Brad (20:47):
me too.
Me too.
So I wanted to point somethingelse out.
So Halloween just passed and.
What we did this year forHalloween was literally, uh, we
watched Harry Potter.
Nannette (20:58):
We binged
Brad (20:59):
we did a, we, we binged all the Harry Potter movies.
And, uh, one of the things thatI realized, and it was
terrifying when I did.
And I pointed this out to Nan,but we'll see what she has to
say about it.
So if you haven't seen HarryPotter, well, you need to go and
watch the series because it's anamazing series.
It's special to me because itcame out when my kids were
little and I remember readingthem the books and then going to
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see the movies.
Anyway, there's a character inHarry Potter named Dolores
Umbridge.
Nannette (21:28):
my gosh.
Brad (21:30):
And she is by far like the most villainous, horrible, uh,
person.
She's even worse, I think, than,you know, the main evil Lord
Voldemort.
But, uh, I realized why I'mlike, Oh my God, she's
terrifying.
I realized why she is literallya relief society president.
Nannette (21:49):
She talks just like that.
She does with the half fakesmile.
Brad (21:53):
Yeah, well, hello.
Hello students.
I'm so happy that you're here,but I really hate you, but she's
going to say it with a smile andin a sicky, icky, icky voice, so
sweet and nice.
Even though she's being reallyhorrible.
Nannette (22:07):
Talking down to people, you know, and she's all
in pink.
Brad (22:12):
She's like a Mary Kay lady.
I
Nannette (22:13):
Yeah, Brad was like, you know, it would have been
really funny if she walkedaround Hogwarts saying, Oh,
you're so lovely.
I'd like to do a photo shootwith you.
Can I do your, your makeup andgive you a facial?
And drive a pink Cadillac, butlike she's, she wears everything
pink.
And then she has these plates onthe wall that has cats that move
around on the plates.
But the horrible thing that shedoes.
(22:35):
Is she punishes the students bymaking them write you know,
sentences and as they write thesentence, the sentence is carved
in their flesh.
So they don't need ink, it'scarved in their flesh and so
they have like these bleedingwounds and it's just,
Brad (22:50):
Yeah, she's an awful woman, but, but she is
literally, I think the lady whoplayed her must have watched
like hours of conference talksto be able to nail that
character so precisely.
Oh my gosh, she's, she justnailed it.
Anyway, that was, uh, probablythe most horrifying thing about
(23:10):
our Halloween and our all whatsix trick or treaters that we
had.
Nannette (23:15):
and we, we give good candy, too.
Like, what the heck?
never, we never used to gettrick or treaters in Benjamin
because all the houses were sofar apart.
But, like, in the city here, youwould think.
Brad (23:26):
Well, we don't have a lot of young kids in our
neighborhood.
You know what I mean?
We have,
Nannette (23:30):
I know, but
Brad (23:31):
have a lot of middle aged
Nannette (23:32):
parents should be like, yeah, so old people live
up on that hill.
Like, we should go take our kidsto trick or treat with old
people to make them happy.
And,
Brad (23:41):
So you've got a really good point there because no one
appreciates cute kids dressed upin costumes.
Like.
Grandmas
Nannette (23:48):
it's so true.
Brad (23:49):
take your kids to go trick or treat in those neighborhoods
that are like seniorneighborhoods.
They love that.
Well, some of them.
There's always the grouchypeople, but
Nannette (23:58):
very few.
Most of them are just lonely andwant to, you know, interact and
see little tiny ones and see thecreativity and
Brad (24:06):
And they might give Tootsie Rolls, but you know
what?
Let them give Tootsie Rolls andthen give your kid a candy bar
later.
Nannette (24:14):
I don't know.
We get full size candy
Brad (24:16):
Well, we do, but not everyone does.
Nannette (24:18):
Our neighbors do.
Brad (24:20):
everyone does.
There are a lot of people whoare like, I'm going to give
Tootsie Rolls.
I'm on a fixed income.
This is what you get.
Or here's a potato.
Enjoy it.
You know what I mean?
Nannette (24:29):
Definitely not on our Ridge though.
you know, I, I think that it isimportant, especially this time
of year, to remember if youcould picture like a big
spiderweb and you're in thecenter of the spiderweb, it's
not a sticky spiderweb or ascary one, just, just a web
everyone that your ripple hasever touched, Or you've run
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into, you guys are connected,whether it be, you know, the
person at the grocery store, ateacher, a police officer, you
know, no matter what, we're allconnected and we should all
watch out for each other andshow each other respect and
love.
And there's a lot of upheavalgoing on, especially with the
elections coming around and
Brad (25:10):
Dude, people are crazy.
People, people talk, talkpolitics and they get crazy.
Like you can talk to the mostlevel headed, amazing person and
they start getting into politicsand you're like, okay, that
shit's crazy.
We're going to back off.
Nannette (25:24):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Brad (25:26):
When
Nannette (25:27):
In actuality, you should be able to talk about
religion or politics or anythingand have a civil conversation
about it and actually be open toeach other's stuff without
feeling attacked.
But it's just so angry and soattacking that it shuts people
down, but that's what dividesus.
So hopefully this holiday seasonwe can come together and unite
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because we are part of thegreatest country in the world.
And I challenged anybody thatdoesn't believe that go travel
the world because there are somepeople that have a whole lot
less than we do and we're prettyspoiled.
And our founding father set usup pretty, pretty nicely.
So I think that we need to standback and stand in gratitude and
(26:08):
our, our nation needs to begrateful and united.
So just remember we're allconnected.
Brad (26:13):
and I think that's kind of the key, that we're all
connected and it's even bigger.
It's not that our nation needsto be connected and united.
The human race needs to beunited.
And we need to remember ourhumanity.
Right, right.
Well,
Nannette (26:27):
and even deeper than that.
Z, we need to remember no matterwhat color, religion, or
anything physical that we are,we're all souls having a human
experience.
We are all spirits and we're allenergy.
And with that, we need to beable to know that not only are
we connected with everyone here,but we're connected with
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everyone on earth.
On the other side too.
So every one on the other side,all of their experiences and all
of their expertise that theyhave, they can bring forward to
us and help us.
They're there to help us, but wehave to ask.
So just remember that you'remore powerful than you think.
And you're more loved than youcan ever even think of.
Brad (27:09):
Yeah, remember your ancestors, remember your loved
ones, and have such a wonderfulholiday season.
Nannette (27:15):
Yeah.
Be grateful.
Raises your vibration.
Brad (27:20):
thank you everyone for listening.
We are grateful for you andwe're grateful for all the
people you tell about the showand all the likes and the
comments and the reviews thatyou leave.
Please don't be shy.
If you haven't left a review,let us know what you think of
the show.
If you love it, if you hate it,you know, either or, but, uh, we
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love hearing your feedback andwe hope that you have a
wonderful week.
Nannette (27:45):
see you.
On the second take of
Brad (27:47):
On the other side of the, I just fucked that all up.
Wow.
Can I, can I have a second takeat that?
On the other side of the veil.
Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll
talk about spirituality, theparanormal religion, and my
journey going from Mormon tomedium.
I'm Nanette Wride.
Thanks for listening.
Now let's go have some fun.
Brad (00:27):
Welcome everyone! This is the Mormon to Medium Podcast and
we are so thrilled and excitedbecause that's what you're
supposed to say when you start apodcast.
I'm so excited to be here.
Nannette (00:38):
Really?
Brad (00:39):
Well, look, here's my big thing is I'm excited that we are
almost to Thanksgiving andChristmas.
And we just finished off.
Halloween and the day of thedead.
And this last few months of theyear is always so cool.
I love the holidays.
Nannette (00:56):
Oh, seeped in tradition and family and
connectedness.
Yeah, we've got a lot going on.
It's, I think it's exciting.
It's an exciting time of year.
Brad (01:04):
Yeah.
And you know, the sad thing isthere are so many people out
there who, who associate theholidays with
Nannette (01:11):
trauma
Brad (01:12):
trauma and sadness, or, well, I've got to choose one
family or the other, rather thanlooking at it and going, Oh my
gosh, I have the opportunity tospend time with family, or I
have the opportunity to do this,or just loving, you know, the
smell of pumpkin spice andpeppermint or, or whatever.
(01:34):
You know what I mean?
It's, it's, uh, it's sad when,
Nannette (01:39):
this time
Brad (01:40):
this time of year is depressing for folks.
I, I, I wish that it wasn't.
Nannette (01:44):
Okay, I, I want to touch on that for a minute
because it really is and it.
It has actually been somethingthat's been really hard for me
in our marriage, because I knowthat Corey's death day is four
months away when September hits.
And so I have his birthday inSeptember.
We have Halloween, we haveThanksgiving, we have Christmas,
(02:05):
and then he dies.
So
Brad (02:07):
and you have your anniversary,
Nannette (02:08):
well, and my anniversary is December 23rd.
So, I always want to run inDecember and I can, we sat down
to do the podcast today and Ilooked at Brad and I'm like, I
can feel, I can feel it coming.
I can, I can feel all of thoseemotions rushing in and it feels
like somebody just flushed thetoilet and I'm going around the
balls like shit.
(02:30):
But holidays can be really,really hard.
But I think one thing thatyou've taught me, Brad because
there's been a lot of timeswhere family can't be here with
us or we have celebratedholidays, just me and you and
our little Papa.
And what you just said earlieris, is really important.
You celebrate with those thatyou can celebrate with.
And not everyone is at the pointwhere you're at.
(02:53):
So, just be grateful for thepeople that you do have around
you and the friends that youhave around you.
Cause not all family is blood.
Brad (03:01):
That's a good point too.
Nannette (03:02):
So yeah,
Brad (03:04):
You know, we, we pick up a lot of, a lot of people along
our journey, right?
Nannette (03:09):
we have some of the most wonderful friends and I've
never really had friends until Imet you.
Like I had acquaintances, butnot
Brad (03:16):
that,
Nannette (03:17):
Friends that, you know, if my shirt gets stuck on
my shoulders and my boobs arehanging out, I can actually call
my friend across the street andbe like, Help! I can't breathe
and I can't get it off! It is!
Brad (03:33):
super graceful and, uh, Yeah, I'll let you tell the
story, because I wasn't home, soI couldn't help you.
Nannette (03:39):
Brad.
Brad wasn't home and so I wear,when I work, I wear like yoga
stuff and so a lot of my stuffhas like the built-in bras and
so very elastic.
Okay.
and I, I have big shoulders andsometimes things get.
Doc on my shoulders and I can't,I'm not, I can't like pull them
(04:00):
up.
Like I get stuck and there'vebeen a lot of times where I've
gone into Brad and been like,help me pull this over my head.
And he just laughs, but hewasn't at home and this
happened.
And I
Brad (04:09):
also very flexible.
Nannette (04:13):
I literally was just stuck and I, I tried for like 10
minutes and couldn't get it off.
And at this point I'm startingto have labored breathing and
I'm like, okay, so
Brad (04:23):
she's panicked.
Nannette (04:24):
I, I'm panicking at this point.
So I call my neighbor across thestreet.
And she comes running over andshe's laughing her ass off as
she helps me pull my stuff overmy shoulders.
And I mean, I'm sitting therewith nothing on other than the
stuff stuck on me, but she'sjust laughing her butt off.
And those are,
Brad (04:43):
You're like, Renee, help me! me!
Nannette (04:47):
still teases me because sometimes I can be
really, really dumb, but that'sokay.
It's just me.
Yeah.
But those are good friends.
Really, really good friends thatyou can count on.
Like when Brad goes out of town,he's going out of town today.
I have a backup husband.
I have a couple of them acrossthe street.
If something happens or I feelunsafe, I can call them and I
know they will come over andhelp me.
(05:08):
So
Brad (05:09):
we've got great friends and neighbors.
It really is remarkable.
Yep,
Nannette (05:27):
all over the world.
Brad (05:28):
you know who you are.
Nannette (05:29):
Yeah, we're super grateful.
This is time to be grateful
Brad (05:33):
It is.
It absolutely is.
So, and those who, who do feel alittle bit blue, how do you, how
do you get through that Nan?
What, what is your suggestion?
And then I know maybe you'relike, I don't know, how the hell
do I answer when it happens tome?
But how would you suggest peopleget through the holidays when
they struggle with them?
Nannette (05:52):
You know, sometimes it's just an hour by hour thing
or a day to day thing.
You take baby steps through thatkind of stuff.
But when you start to feelfeelings like that it's an
invitation to heal somethingand, and it's really hard to sit
in that.
But if you can go inside andremember that gratitude, love,
and abundance are all the samevibration.
(06:14):
Just sit in your gratitude andit'll help shift you out.
I, that's what I've learned todo in the last 10 years because
I've had some really, really,really hard years.
And like I said, this morning, Ican feel, I can feel it.
I can feel Corey's death coming.
Got some emotion.
And I hate it.
Absolutely hate that I can feelit, but I'm going to sit in
gratitude because I have a lotof love around me.
(06:35):
I have a lot of really goodpeople and that's, what's going
to get me through.
And that's what we'll geteveryone through sitting
gratitude, even if it's babysteps of gratitude.
Like I got up today and I put mysocks on, you know, or I had a
really good cup of coffee or Ihave a really awesome Papa or I
live in a beautiful home or I SI felt the sunshine on my face.
(06:56):
Find those little things thatyou're grateful for so that you
can rise, rise.
Raise your vibration and be ableto step out of that grief.
But you know, being withoutfamily is a loss and it's a
grief and it's to be felt aswell.
So, but, but let your familyknow that you love them as much
as you can, even if they'reassholes, right?
Brad (07:21):
family.
You might not always like them.
But yeah, you'll always lovethem.
And it is, to your point, it'ssuper important to let the
people who you love know thatyou love and appreciate them.
Right.
I mean, because you're notguaranteed any extra time.
Ever.
No.
No.
And
Nannette (07:39):
No, no, and I think that that's what one of the
biggest lessons that Corey'sdeath taught our family Is is to
stand in that light and to letpeople know that you love them
It's it's really good to havegood boundaries with people that
are the assholes, right?
Right.
But you can still love them at adistance that keeps you safe.
(08:00):
But let everybody know how youfeel about them and stand in
that gratitude because it doesget you through the holidays.
And if you get lonely, we'retaking in strays.
and we
Brad (08:13):
Well, and, and look, here's something that's really
interesting.
So we just mentioned that wejust got through Halloween and
Day of the Dead and, and wetotally sidetracked because
that's what we were going totalk about is, Hey, let's talk
about the Day of the Dead andlet's talk about honoring our
ancestors today.
And somehow we just jump intothis other
Nannette (08:32):
it was you.
It was you.
You always sidetrack.
Brad (08:34):
gonna blame
Nannette (08:35):
Oh, totally.
But you know what?
I want to open it today of thedead with the fact that we were
waking up this morning reallyearly and it was still dark.
And.
Brad's grandmother poppedthrough and I know her because
I've seen her before and I'vedone a reading with Brad before
and she's shown up So I know herby just the look and she popped
in and had a great big hugesmile And I told him I said, oh
(08:58):
your grandma's here and she'ssmiling I said you need to take
time today to get to feel her.
And what did you say when we satdown?
Brad (09:06):
So my grandma and I were super close, like really, really
close.
She was my, you know, if I evergot in a fight with my mom, I
would run away to grandma'sright.
She just lived down the road.
And so I would pack up myovernight bag and I would run
away to grandma's and she wouldjust take care of me.
And we.
always had so much fun together,whether it was just watching TV
(09:30):
or a movie or going camping orsitting on the patio and just
listening to the, the birds singand reading books together.
She was,
Nannette (09:42):
well and she'd walk you to school.
Brad (09:44):
she was amazing.
She, well she would, when I wasin junior high, she would
literally make me breakfastevery day before I went to
school.
I would, I would get up and getready and I would walk to
grandma's house.
And she would have breakfastthere for
Nannette (09:57):
I love grandmas like that.
Brad (09:59):
And then my, and then my friend Ryan, and we've talked
about, wow.
Nannette (10:10):
It's okay.
Brad (10:15):
And then Ryan would meet me at grandma's and we'd finish
walking the rest of the way toschool.
Nannette (10:22):
Now Ryan's one of Brad's really good friends that
has passed as well.
Brad (10:25):
so, yeah, that's a, that's a big memory today.
Nannette (10:28):
Yeah.
That's what you get for lightingup the altars, mister.
Brad (10:36):
Yeah.
Nannette (10:37):
So, uh, why would your grandma show up this morning?
Brad (10:40):
grandma So Yeah, this is a special time of the year.
Obviously, you know, we justfinished with Halloween, right?
Which is such a cool holiday.
You know, it's very non secularnow, but once upon a time, it
was a Celtic holiday.
You knew that right now.
Nannette (10:54):
a time it was a Celtic holiday.
You knew that
Brad (11:00):
Well, I'm doing the weave here.
So, so there's a couple ofthings that happened.
Nannette (11:12):
Okay.
Brad (11:14):
died.
Grandpa Zeman died Halloweennight.
November 2nd is grandma'sbirthday.
And that's also part of the dayof the dead, right, where we
honor our ancestors.
And, uh, so I was lighting upour altar yesterday and, and so
in our home, we have an areawhere we have pictures of our
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ancestors and our loved ones whohave passed.
And part of that altar is, youknow, we'll.
Put small offerings out, whetherit's something that helps us
remember them.
Like my grandpa, I have one ofhis below bolo ties and
harmonica, and we'll put thatout for him.
Or, you know, I have a littleShakespeare book for my grandma,
(11:58):
just little things like that.
Nan has a Mountain Dew for Coreyand.
You know, it's it's things thatthey they loved in in this life
or things that remind us of themso we can tell Stories about
them and we can reminisce andremember them
Nannette (12:13):
them.
When we do that though, don'tyou feel them just come in so
strong?
Brad (12:17):
Oh, always every time.
And you know, one of the thingswith honoring the ancestors like
that, and it's a ritual that hastaken place in so many different
cultures, right?
You know, we, we credit day ofthe dead to that the ancient
Aztecs and because that's kindof where that particular portion
came from.
(12:37):
But there are cultures aroundthe world who do very similar.
Rituals, right?
They, the Chinese do it, the,you know, Indians do it.
It's, uh, Native Americans doit.
It's, you know, it's, it's soprevalent to honor those
ancestors because they're partof our team, right?
And
Nannette (12:56):
But, but Western the Western world doesn't do it.
I,
Brad (13:02):
think that they don't do it maybe in the same manner, but
they do it because think aboutthis.
We do, we have our cemeteries.
Right.
And we have like Memorial Dayand I think that that is, you
know, the, the Western conceptof doing the same thing.
We'd go and put flowers on thegraves, right?
(13:23):
You go and you clean thegravestones every Memorial Day.
At least I, I remember doingthat with grandma.
We would go and we'd clean the,the, the, the headstones and
we'd take flowers You know, tohonor those ancestors, it's just
a little different way of doingit, right?
So, with the altar and lightingthe candles and, burning, you
know, incense or kopal or, uh,palisanto or sage or whatever
(13:45):
you choose to do, and sendingthose prayers to, to the
ancestors and helping them findtheir way back to you.
It's kind of the idea of that,but it's something that we do
Nannette (13:56):
All year.
Brad (13:56):
yeah, we, we basically do it all year.
We, we try to make sure thatthey are part of our home
always.
And so when we have, you know,grandkids come over or even our
kids come over, they can look atthe pictures and go, okay, now
who was this?
And I can go, Oh, that was, thatwas my grandpa's mom and dad, or
that was my grandma's mom anddad.
And that was my grandma's.
(14:19):
Grandma, you know, I, it's, it'sreally cool to have some of
those photos and
Nannette (14:24):
Well, and to keep the stories alive too, because you
tell the stories and they justlive on.
And so it makes them tangible,but we celebrate we light up our
altar all through the year forall the holidays, but for their
birthdays death days and we'lljust do, you know, stuff around
the one person's on birthdaysand death days candles and
offerings and things so that welet them know that we haven't
(14:46):
forgotten them and we love themand we want them around.
We know that they're part of ourteam, but it, it strengthens
that bond.
Bond, I think you tell me whatyou think, but it strengthens
the bond on a day to day becausethey're always a part of us.
And when we talk about them allthe time, it's as if they're
still alive in here with us.
I mean, and they are here withus, but we just keep their
(15:08):
memory more alive and fresh andtangible.
Brad (15:11):
Yeah, you know, I, I read something that was similar to
the effect that
Nannette (15:17):
people
Brad (15:18):
people.
Aren't really dead until youforget about them.
Nannette (15:24):
Right.
Brad (15:25):
Because they're always alive in your heart and in your
mind and in those stories thatlive on.
And once those stories are gone,that's when someone's dead.
Nannette (15:36):
Right.
Well, and words are power,right?
So those stories are powerfuland, and they go on and on and
on.
It's like, some of the people wemet in Orleans, you know, that
they're like people, kids thesedays don't know their history.
They don't know why we do thethings that we do right now in
our culture.
(15:56):
They don't know where theorigins come from.
And so by keeping you know,honoring our dead and keeping
their stories alive, it remindsthe kids growing up where they
come from and where their rootsare from.
And it's so important.
You feel her, don't you?
Brad (16:12):
Yeah, so I'm going to tell you a story.
Nannette (16:15):
Okay.
Old Town
Brad (16:16):
Grandma and Grandpa grew up in, you know, the little town
of Spanish Fork.
It was just a tiny little townat the time and they, like the
whole town would go to Payson tothese dances because they had a
dance hall.
And Grandma and her friend werewalking to the train or they
might have even just beenwalking to go to the dance.
(16:38):
And, uh, grandpa and his brotherwere driving and they pulled up
in their little car and said,are you going to the dance?
Yeah, we are.
Well, would you like a ride?
Nannette (16:47):
a ride?
Brad (16:48):
Well, yeah, they didn't want to walk.
So of course they, they acceptthe ride.
Even, you know, here's these twostrangers.
They don't know who they are,but they get a ride with, with
grandpa and his brother, uh, togo to the dance.
And, uh, they're talking in theback of the car and, you know,
in the backseat and a littlerumble seat and saying, you
know, yeah, when we, when we, weget there, let's ditch these
(17:10):
boys and, and, you know, go havefun.
Right.
Well, they get there and theyjust kind of try and ditch them.
And grandma goes to the, to thebathroom and just hides out in
the bathroom.
Yup.
And when she comes out,grandpa's standing right there.
And he looks at her and goes,are you ready to dance yet?
(17:31):
And, uh, she said she dancedwith him and he was the best
dancer.
And she just fell in love fromthat point on.
But yeah, it's, it's memorieslike that and stories that, uh,
They keep them alive.
And I would like to think thatthat's exactly what grandpa told
her when she passed, you know,are you ready to dance?
Nannette (17:54):
Yeah.
Now I know where you get yourmoves from, babe.
Brad's a really good dancer.
Brad (18:01):
I'm a cheese ball dancer.
Nannette (18:05):
This is
Brad (18:06):
Wow.
This is an emotional show.
I, I don't know how much of thisis going to make it off the
cutting room
Nannette (18:12):
all going on every single tiny bit.
She's going to make you cry allday, Brad.
It's called love.
Yeah.
What
Brad (18:23):
Whoa.
Okay.
So when we light up the altar,what stories come to your mind?
Nannette (18:29):
Oh, so many.
I mean, it just depends on whichone we're talking about because
we've got everybody from cousinsto uncles to aunts to
grandparents to friends, youknow, Everyone and each one has
a different story.
So it's just, I think thesefeelings of love that we feel
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right now about yourgrandparents I think we fill
them with each story and eachperson because they come, their
essence, their spirit comesright in and it's like, yeah, I
remember this and they surroundus with their love.
That's a heck of a heavenly hugif you ask me.
Brad (19:05):
you know,
Nannette (19:06):
Yeah.
Brad (19:06):
that and you go, Oh my God, I miss them so much.
I wish I could just give them ahug, but they're there.
They're right here.
They're with you.
And it's funny because, like,when I lit things up the other
day, you know, I'm like, Hey,please, ancestors, help.
You know, so and so in thefamily.
(19:27):
And, and, uh, I put a fewdifferent requests out there
and,
Nannette (19:33):
And,
Brad (19:33):
and, you know, you hear the follow up and you go, wow,
okay, thank you.
Thank you for helping.
And, uh, they're there, they'rethere.
You just have to reach out, letthem know.
I mean, it's a lot of peoplepray to God, right?
Nannette (19:47):
It's
Brad (19:48):
And it's really the same idea.
You know, just thank yourancestors.
They're there for you.
Just like, like God is.
Yeah,
Nannette (19:54):
we're all connected to our source, so it's the same,
same with the prayers that youhad with the ancestors, you had
asked them to help certainfamily members.
I remember cause last night Ihad, I had said exactly what you
had said and it kind of freakedyou out a little
Brad (20:14):
It was, yeah, like the exact verbiage that I said to
the ancestors, Nan's like, soand so needs to just learn how
to do such and such.
And I'm like, Holy shit.
That is the exact thing I saidjust a couple hours ago when I
lit the altar.
It was crazy, but it's maybethat's just because we've been
(20:36):
together so long and we're so intune with
Nannette (20:38):
tune.
We do finish each other'ssentences.
Brad (20:42):
was, uh, yeah, it's, it's surprising sometimes
Nannette (20:46):
I love us.
Brad (20:47):
me too.
Me too.
So I wanted to point somethingelse out.
So Halloween just passed and.
What we did this year forHalloween was literally, uh, we
watched Harry Potter.
Nannette (20:58):
We binged
Brad (20:59):
we did a, we, we binged all the Harry Potter movies.
And, uh, one of the things thatI realized, and it was
terrifying when I did.
And I pointed this out to Nan,but we'll see what she has to
say about it.
So if you haven't seen HarryPotter, well, you need to go and
watch the series because it's anamazing series.
It's special to me because itcame out when my kids were
little and I remember readingthem the books and then going to
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see the movies.
Anyway, there's a character inHarry Potter named Dolores
Umbridge.
Nannette (21:28):
my gosh.
Brad (21:30):
And she is by far like the most villainous, horrible, uh,
person.
She's even worse, I think, than,you know, the main evil Lord
Voldemort.
But, uh, I realized why I'mlike, Oh my God, she's
terrifying.
I realized why she is literallya relief society president.
Nannette (21:49):
She talks just like that.
She does with the half fakesmile.
Brad (21:53):
Yeah, well, hello.
Hello students.
I'm so happy that you're here,but I really hate you, but she's
going to say it with a smile andin a sicky, icky, icky voice, so
sweet and nice.
Even though she's being reallyhorrible.
Nannette (22:07):
Talking down to people, you know, and she's all
in pink.
Brad (22:12):
She's like a Mary Kay lady.
I
Nannette (22:13):
Yeah, Brad was like, you know, it would have been
really funny if she walkedaround Hogwarts saying, Oh,
you're so lovely.
I'd like to do a photo shootwith you.
Can I do your, your makeup andgive you a facial?
And drive a pink Cadillac, butlike she's, she wears everything
pink.
And then she has these plates onthe wall that has cats that move
around on the plates.
But the horrible thing that shedoes.
(22:35):
Is she punishes the students bymaking them write you know,
sentences and as they write thesentence, the sentence is carved
in their flesh.
So they don't need ink, it'scarved in their flesh and so
they have like these bleedingwounds and it's just,
Brad (22:50):
Yeah, she's an awful woman, but, but she is
literally, I think the lady whoplayed her must have watched
like hours of conference talksto be able to nail that
character so precisely.
Oh my gosh, she's, she justnailed it.
Anyway, that was, uh, probablythe most horrifying thing about
(23:10):
our Halloween and our all whatsix trick or treaters that we
had.
Nannette (23:15):
and we, we give good candy, too.
Like, what the heck?
never, we never used to gettrick or treaters in Benjamin
because all the houses were sofar apart.
But, like, in the city here, youwould think.
Brad (23:26):
Well, we don't have a lot of young kids in our
neighborhood.
You know what I mean?
We have,
Nannette (23:30):
I know, but
Brad (23:31):
have a lot of middle aged
Nannette (23:32):
parents should be like, yeah, so old people live
up on that hill.
Like, we should go take our kidsto trick or treat with old
people to make them happy.
And,
Brad (23:41):
So you've got a really good point there because no one
appreciates cute kids dressed upin costumes.
Like.
Grandmas
Nannette (23:48):
it's so true.
Brad (23:49):
take your kids to go trick or treat in those neighborhoods
that are like seniorneighborhoods.
They love that.
Well, some of them.
There's always the grouchypeople, but
Nannette (23:58):
very few.
Most of them are just lonely andwant to, you know, interact and
see little tiny ones and see thecreativity and
Brad (24:06):
And they might give Tootsie Rolls, but you know
what?
Let them give Tootsie Rolls andthen give your kid a candy bar
later.
Nannette (24:14):
I don't know.
We get full size candy
Brad (24:16):
Well, we do, but not everyone does.
Nannette (24:18):
Our neighbors do.
Brad (24:20):
everyone does.
There are a lot of people whoare like, I'm going to give
Tootsie Rolls.
I'm on a fixed income.
This is what you get.
Or here's a potato.
Enjoy it.
You know what I mean?
Nannette (24:29):
Definitely not on our Ridge though.
you know, I, I think that it isimportant, especially this time
of year, to remember if youcould picture like a big
spiderweb and you're in thecenter of the spiderweb, it's
not a sticky spiderweb or ascary one, just, just a web
everyone that your ripple hasever touched, Or you've run
(24:51):
into, you guys are connected,whether it be, you know, the
person at the grocery store, ateacher, a police officer, you
know, no matter what, we're allconnected and we should all
watch out for each other andshow each other respect and
love.
And there's a lot of upheavalgoing on, especially with the
elections coming around and
Brad (25:10):
Dude, people are crazy.
People, people talk, talkpolitics and they get crazy.
Like you can talk to the mostlevel headed, amazing person and
they start getting into politicsand you're like, okay, that
shit's crazy.
We're going to back off.
Nannette (25:24):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Brad (25:26):
When
Nannette (25:27):
In actuality, you should be able to talk about
religion or politics or anythingand have a civil conversation
about it and actually be open toeach other's stuff without
feeling attacked.
But it's just so angry and soattacking that it shuts people
down, but that's what dividesus.
So hopefully this holiday seasonwe can come together and unite
(25:47):
because we are part of thegreatest country in the world.
And I challenged anybody thatdoesn't believe that go travel
the world because there are somepeople that have a whole lot
less than we do and we're prettyspoiled.
And our founding father set usup pretty, pretty nicely.
So I think that we need to standback and stand in gratitude and
(26:08):
our, our nation needs to begrateful and united.
So just remember we're allconnected.
Brad (26:13):
and I think that's kind of the key, that we're all
connected and it's even bigger.
It's not that our nation needsto be connected and united.
The human race needs to beunited.
And we need to remember ourhumanity.
Right, right.
Well,
Nannette (26:27):
and even deeper than that.
Z, we need to remember no matterwhat color, religion, or
anything physical that we are,we're all souls having a human
experience.
We are all spirits and we're allenergy.
And with that, we need to beable to know that not only are
we connected with everyone here,but we're connected with
(26:49):
everyone on earth.
On the other side too.
So every one on the other side,all of their experiences and all
of their expertise that theyhave, they can bring forward to
us and help us.
They're there to help us, but wehave to ask.
So just remember that you'remore powerful than you think.
And you're more loved than youcan ever even think of.
Brad (27:09):
Yeah, remember your ancestors, remember your loved
ones, and have such a wonderfulholiday season.
Nannette (27:15):
Yeah.
Be grateful.
Raises your vibration.
Brad (27:20):
thank you everyone for listening.
We are grateful for you andwe're grateful for all the
people you tell about the showand all the likes and the
comments and the reviews thatyou leave.
Please don't be shy.
If you haven't left a review,let us know what you think of
the show.
If you love it, if you hate it,you know, either or, but, uh, we
(27:41):
love hearing your feedback andwe hope that you have a
wonderful week.
Nannette (27:45):
see you.
On the second take of
Brad (27:47):
On the other side of the, I just fucked that all up.
Wow.
Can I, can I have a second takeat that?
On the other side of the veil.
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