November 28, 2024 • 27 mins
In this episode of the 'Mormon to Medium' podcast, Brad and Nannette team up with their friend Christine Tanner from 'The Shit Behind the Show' podcast. Together, they discuss their unique journeys, from Nan's transition from Mormonism to becoming a medium, to Christine's experience with divorce, trauma, and healing. The episode is filled with humor, candid conversations about relationships, spirituality, and personal growth. Christine shares insights from her own show and her dating stories, while Brad and Nan provide their perspectives. Join this engaging and relatable discussion that combines laughter, life lessons, and a touch of the supernatural.
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Nannette (00:01):
Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll
talk about spirituality, theparanormal religion, and my
journey going from Mormon tomedium.
I'm Nanette Wride.
Thanks for listening.
Now let's go have some fun.
Welcome to the Mormon to mediumpodcast.
(00:22):
we are your host, Brad and Nan,and we're here with a really
good friend, Christine Tanner,and she has a podcast.
You need to go check out too.
It is the shit behind the showand oh my gosh, well can relate.
Brad (00:35):
Yep, we're going to have a great show for everyone today,
so we're really that you'rejoining us this week.
Christine (00:41):
And welcome back to the shit behind the show.
This week I am joined by Bradand Nan from the Mormon to
Medium podcast.
Super excited.
We are going to just collabtoday and have fun with this.
Thanks for joining guys.
Brad (00:56):
Absolutely.
Nannette (00:57):
though?
I am.
Just keep
Brad (01:00):
you happy
Nannette (01:02):
Alright.
Yeah.
Yours might be cold, yeah?
Christine (01:05):
Yes, thank you for the coffee.
Nannette (01:07):
and I will make
Christine (01:08):
It's getting there.
Nannette (01:09):
So, if we have to take a pause.
Christine (01:13):
Okay,
Nannette (01:14):
Run back, take two minutes,
Christine (01:16):
I'm spoiled here.
Nan makes her own creamer.
Brad (01:19):
of like a Susie homemaker.
She's the Susie homemaker ofmediums.
Nannette (01:25):
mediums, She, she's a medium
Brad (01:28):
She just
Nannette (01:29):
good homemaker,
Christine (01:30):
she's,
Brad (01:30):
she's a medium homemaker.
She's not really high on thelist, but
Christine (01:34):
goals,
Brad (01:35):
goals, goals to be a medium, medium homemaker look,
We've been looking forward tothis podcast for a while.
So we actually had recorded anepisode a few weeks ago and.
Talk about the shit behind theshow.
Things just didn't work out.
And so sometimes you just haveto scrap a project and say, you
know what?
It wasn't meant to be at thattime.
(01:57):
We'll do it again later.
So thank you for, uh, yourpatience, Christine, for working
with us like this.
It's so weird how none of theelectronics wanted to
Christine (02:06):
Thank you.
Mine didn't work.
Like nothing worked that day.
No.
And we had some great content.
Nannette (02:13):
We did.
Brad (02:14):
yeah.
We had so much fun.
Christine (02:16):
Like two hours worth, probably.
Nannette (02:19):
then an hour before that.
So, yeah.
Christine (02:21):
And it didn't, none of it worked out.
Nannette (02:22):
No.
Brad (02:23):
that's the problem is we always go to breakfast or lunch
or whatever, and all your reallygood conversation comes out
then.
And you're like, oh, we shouldhave said that on the show.
Christine (02:32):
Yeah, we should have a mic with us at all times.
Nannette (02:35):
Oh, you mean like the last hour we've been sitting
here?
Christine (02:37):
Yeah.
Nannette (02:38):
you guys.
Christine (02:39):
And Nana's been like, guys, come on.
Brad (02:41):
like, stop.
Will you push record?
Christine (02:43):
record?
Brad (02:44):
Just push record.
So
Nannette (02:46):
So a lot of people probably don't know this, but
Brad and Christine used to worktogether.
So, um, they became friends thatway.
And, um, and I later when I wasdating Brad met Christine and we
kind of didn't have a whole lotto do with each other until your
shit behind the show startedhappening.
And she just reached out to meone morning and was like, Hey,
(03:07):
can you pull some cards for me?
And I was like, she's talking tome.
She usually talks to Brad.
Christine (03:13):
It was this crazy feeling of like, Spirit was just
like hitting me on the head.
You have to reach out to her.
You have to reach out to her.
Ask her if she does, because Ididn't even know that you did.
tarot readings.
I think I just asked, do you doreadings?
And, and it was amazing.
Did a great reading
Nannette (03:32):
Thank you for
Brad (03:32):
what was
Nannette (03:33):
out.
That's what I
Brad (03:35):
That's what I want, what was amazing about it?
Christine (03:37):
I told you, everyone would know.
No, she was,
Nannette (03:40):
knew
Brad (03:41):
that out there.
She
Christine (03:42):
she was spot on with my spirit guide right now, which
is my grandmother.
That I feel a lot, but knew mynickname that she calls me,
called me and just some otherinsight in life that I'm still
waiting for, but calming andcomforting.
Brad (04:02):
I love that.
That's super cool.
It's super cool that you know,your spirit guides.
Christine (04:07):
you know, you're sure guys.
One,
Nannette (04:10):
Yeah, you have a couple more.
Christine (04:12):
Yeah, I just know of the one, but.
I would love to, Ooh, that wouldbe fun.
A fun show, right?
Nannette (04:18):
Spare guides?
Christine (04:19):
To talk about
Nannette (04:20):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, the stories.
Christine (04:23):
Yes.
We have lots.
Nannette (04:26):
It would be so fun to like step you through a
meditation, to talk to yourspirit guide.
That would be really
Christine (04:32):
Can we?
Nannette (04:34):
If you want.
Christine (04:35):
Oh, let's do that.
Nannette (04:36):
Brad's like, wait, what about me?
Remember you don't care aboutyour spirit guides.
Brad (04:40):
I'm good.
Yeah.
They're there.
They're good.
It's all he needs to know.
Christine (04:44):
That's all he needs to know.
Nannette (04:46):
It's true.
You would think being married tome because I'm an Aries, so I
have to be in control.
I have to know everything'sworking and all the things I
even asked him, I'm like, don'tyou want to know about your
spirit team?
Don't you want to know who yourspirit guides are?
He's like, yeah.
Like, for real like me,
Brad (05:05):
they're there.
Well, look here.
Here's my thing.
If you overthink it too much,then It ruins the, the magic,
right?
Let there be, it does.
Let there be some magic and justlet things happen the way
they're supposed to.
If you sit back and go, alright,it's going to work out.
It usually does.
And if you stress out about itand you put all of your energy
(05:28):
into like, oh my god, this ishorrible.
Guess what?
It, it really does continue tobe horrible.
You, you get what you put outthere.
Christine (05:37):
be horrible.
You, you get what you put outthere.
See,
Nannette (05:48):
I was the same way.
I wanted to know because Iwanted to know why they were
with me.
And what they brought to thetable.
Because, you know, every spiritguide will have different, um,
gifts that they can, that theycan do.
So, I have a new spirit guidethat came in.
Funny little thing.
I'm not going to tell youeverything about her, but, um, I
(06:09):
did some shit that, and I saidsome words the other day that
are not English that I don'tknow, but she told me to say
them and I said them three timesand she blew some stuff into the
air and I was like, holy shit,something's going down.
Like
Christine (06:24):
Oh, wow.
Nannette (06:25):
they, They bring their gifts that they have created in
their life, um, to you so thatyou can.
by them.
So they're like your personaltutors.
So, um, very, very cool peopleor spirits or whatever, but
they're still people.
Christine (06:39):
So fun.
Brad (06:41):
So Christine, tell us a little bit about your show.
Christine (06:44):
I can get started why I started it.
Brad (06:47):
Yeah, that's perfect.
Christine (06:48):
Okay.
Uh, so, I was the typical newlydivorced single shitshow who got
out there and just, not only doyou, you know, Or did I bring
all of what I call my emotionalbackpack?
You know, you throw all of yourstuff in that you've carried
through conditioning, throughlife, through marriage,
(07:09):
whatever.
Childhood.
So I had all of that because mychildhood was colorful.
Then, you know, the marriage andthe being cheated on and just
the stuff.
So I get out in the single worldand I'm like, ooh.
Boys,
Brad (07:26):
attention.
Christine (07:27):
you know, attention.
Did it
Brad (07:30):
ask you this.
How old were you when you gotmarried?
Christine (07:33):
was 19.
Makes sense, right?
Brad (07:36):
yeah.
Well, I, I was 18.
How old were you Nan?
16.
16.
So yeah, we were all young,married folks from Mormon
Christine (07:46):
Yes.
And then having children young,like I was, you know, Being a
mom when everyone else was goingto college and
Brad (07:55):
right.
Christine (07:56):
and so yeah, get divorced.
And all of a sudden I'm pretty,you know, all these guys and I
get out there and I date themall.
And I'm just like, as I'm goingalong, I'm spreading my traumas.
Out to everyone else, you know,I had no business dating.
I would date guys that wereready for marriage and I would
(08:20):
just, you know, three to sixmonths.
I'm like, Oh, I'm gone by anddidn't even give a shit about
their feelings or anything.
It was just like, I'm out.
Brad (08:26):
I'm That's so cold.
Christine (08:27):
I know, but I didn't realize it at the time.
I wasn't on purpose, but
Nannette (08:32):
I have a question though.
You said guys that were readyfor marriage.
Is that even really a thing?
Because they've got theirbackpacks too, right?
And most guys don't do theirhealing as quickly as girls do.
So I'm just wondering, were theyjust wanting somebody to come
and be toxic with them?
Christine (08:51):
Yes, wanting marriage, I should say.
Wanting
Nannette (08:55):
but wanting marriage.
Okay.
Christine (08:56):
And I was not even, that was not even a word in my
vocabulary.
I was like, oh hell no, neveragain.
Like, I was a mess.
Brad (09:05):
a mess.
Well, and after you've beenthrough a divorce and it's
messy, that is the last thingyou want.
That is the last thing you'relooking for.
You're like, nope, that's nothappening.
Christine (09:16):
and mine was pretty gross.
So then I, I get remarried andon our honeymoon, he beat the
shit out of me.
Nannette (09:26):
Woah.
Christine (09:27):
and so what does that tell me?
Like, girlfriend, you got topull your shit together.
And do some work on yourself andmeet this guy on a dating app.
And we just, you know, decidedwe're just buddies.
And he's like, you should reallyshare your stuff with people.
(09:48):
It could help them.
Brad (09:49):
say your stuff or your shit.
You've got a lot of shit,Christine.
Christine (09:52):
got a lot of shit, my, all of this shit in my
backpack And people liked it,but.
The one thing that I learnedthrough all of this is they like
it because they can relate andthey get something from it
because it's like almost like,okay, she's already carved this
(10:13):
path the wrong way.
I'm gonna take the other one theright way
Nannette (10:17):
the
Brad (10:17):
And just
Christine (10:18):
and just follow where she tells me to go.
Brad (10:20):
If only people did that.
I think humans by nature love tolearn things the hard way.
We have to learn it
Christine (10:27):
one?
No.
No,
Brad (10:28):
No, no, you're not.
Christine (10:30):
learning is,
Brad (10:31):
Vicarious learning is, it's a great concept, but it's
so seldom actually done.
I
Christine (10:37):
it differently, it's, that's how I got started.
And then I doing, well, went onmy healing journey, began it
about that point.
It was like, okay, you've got tostop.
You're going to keep doing it.
This pattern going andAttracting these men.
I am still trying to get thisdown.
By the way.
I am NOT I Don't feel like Ihave perfected it yet.
(11:01):
So taking a step back againtrying to figure it out, but
Brad (11:06):
Christine, can I ask you a question?
So you brought up gettingmarried and going on your
honeymoon and he was abusive andI don't want to talk about
something that's hurtful to you.
So, yeah.
Christine (11:18):
Oh,
Brad (11:18):
You know,
Christine (11:19):
know me, it's fine.
Okay.
Brad (11:21):
but, but if it's ugly or uncomfortable, you know, raise
your hand, ring the bell,whatever, go to your safe place
and cry.
I, you get it.
But why do you think thathappened?
Did you just settle?
You were like, Hey, I needcompanionship.
I need a relationship.
What drove you to pick thatperson?
Or was he not that person whileyou were dating?
Christine (11:41):
So he was not, while we were dating now other people.
Brad saw red flags.
Nannette (11:48):
Oh! You told her?
Oh,
Christine (11:52):
he did.
And yeah, tried to warn me, butI was like, but he was, he was a
provider and backstory.
And this is where you canrelate.
He had recently lost his wifeand had her daughters that he
was still raising.
And they called me second mom.
Oh, And he's like, he used that.
(12:15):
They, they just want a mom andshe wanted you to be there for
them because they didn't have arelationship with their dad,
their biological dad.
And he, he knew I had known himfor 12 years.
He knew I had a kind heart and Iwas never fully attracted to him
(12:35):
or in it for the marriage.
It was more for all of the kids.
He was a great stepdad to all ofthem.
And I loved those girls.
But was he physically abusive?
No.
Was he verbally even?
No.
He was like, we didn't reallyfight.
Uh, just something snapped onthe honeymoon in Hawaii.
And then later I found out hehad beat his wife for years.
Nannette (12:59):
Wow.
Christine (13:00):
But was I in a place to even be remarried?
No.
Like I should, that would havebeen a great time to take that
two years and just do my work,you know, and, and discover who
I am.
But I didn't even realize thatthat was a thing at that time.
Does that make sense?
Nannette (13:17):
Oh, totally.
I think a lot of people don'trealize that when you get
divorced, that it's a loss.
And so you have to grieve thatloss and go through all of the
feelings, all of the emotionsthat that provides.
And if you skip that and juststart dating again, it's, it's
the rebound effect and it'snever the right guy ever.
And it's usually.
(13:38):
the same vibration as what youjust left.
So it's like, you're not gettinganything any better, but you
never know until you actuallysee that in hindsight, right?
Christine (13:48):
Yeah, yeah seeing it now And I, I try to notice the
right, I could tell you guysright now, I could sit here and
you're all going to shake yourhead and say, I'm full of shit.
I could sit here and say, Ohyeah, and I, I get it now and I
understand it now.
But as you all know, in thisroom, I recently just got out of
something that was an abusivecycle again.
Brad (14:08):
Yeah.
But you've got your feetunderneath you
Christine (14:09):
I've got both feet under me again, He's never gonna
let that one go.
Brad (14:14):
It was amazing.
Nannette (14:15):
That would Um, Yeah, so
Christine (14:19):
yeah, so I'm, I'm trying to back to the drawing
board, right?
And that's what I do.
Brad (14:24):
So if you were to talk to people and say, Hey, look, watch
for these red flags, what wouldthose be?
What would that look like tosomeone?
Who might be in that situationyou were in, how would you help
them avoid that?
Christine (14:37):
You know, I have learned The best way to know,
and the most accurate is followyour feelings and your gut.
Girls, we are not being crazy ifa guy says something to us and
it feels off and your nervoussystem starts to go a little
crazy and your stomach startsturning and they're saying, Oh,
you're full of shit.
No, you're not.
(14:57):
No.
Something is telling yousomething is off.
If you feel that at all, payattention to that.
That's a red flag.
And that's the best way is isjust listening to that and not
letting and it can be women towrite men and women can both be
abusive, not letting them tellyou like, Oh, it's all you, you
know, you're just crazy, becauseyou will find out later that
(15:19):
you're actually not fuckingcrazy.
Like, right, the truth alwayscomes out.
And and I'm very grateful forthis last relationship, though,
Because there was a lot of,there were good things that I
have taken from that, but alsoit triggered me a lot.
And that is so important in yourhealing because I have learned
(15:41):
to be triggered and sit withthat and sit with my emotion and
my nervous system going crazyand I can regulate myself now.
I don't need them to come to meand do it for me, but I've
learned how to do it myself.
And I also understand, okay,this is something that I need to
address is I'm being triggered.
And that was great for myhealing.
Brad (16:03):
I love that.
Well that's like Nan alwayssays, if you can feel it, you
can heal it.
So if you get triggered, that'san opportunity to heal and grow,
right?
Nannette (16:13):
Right.
And I just barely learnedsomething, by the way.
I know that you have, um, layersof trauma in your life, Like an
onion.
Brad (16:22):
onion.
Nannette (16:23):
but the layers of trauma, if you were to, you
know, put little dots across apiece of paper and then draw the
lines from trauma to trauma totrauma, and it can be, you know,
Childhood abuse to being chasedby a dog, but I mean, trauma,
anytime the body's had to gointo fight or flight, trauma,
trauma, upon trauma, upontrauma, right?
And they all have a vibration.
(16:44):
When you have one of thosetriggers, the trigger, as you
know, as you just pretty muchsaid, it is an invitation to
heal, right?
The body saying, I need you tolook at this.
I need you to sit with this, buta lot of times people don't like
to sit in the shit.
They don't like to look at it.
They don't like to.
Feel it.
And we have to feel it and letit pass through us, but the key
(17:04):
is letting it go body, mind andsoul.
But what I learned is thoselittle dots of each trauma.
If you have a trigger and onegoes off, guess what?
It's not just the one going off.
It's all of them at once Goingoff And that's why you feel so
shitty because it's all of thebelief systems, all of the
emotions from all of themtogether that are going off and
(17:26):
making it so that you absolutelycannot cope.
And then you are, you're like,okay, I'm gonna have to sit in
this for a couple of days, or doyou know what I mean?
That's why it takes so long toprocess it, um, in your mind so
that you can get ready to let goof it with your soul and letting
your body feel safe again.
But I thought it was reallyinteresting cause I had never
thought of trauma like that atall, but it literally,
Brad (17:49):
what's like a spiderweb.
It just kind of pings all theway across the web, right?
Nannette (17:53):
Oh, totally, totally.
Christine (17:56):
And that does make sense because I will shake.
My nervous system just goesinsane and I have to take a
minute and pull myself out ofthe situation and just sit with
that and breathe through
Nannette (18:07):
Yes.
Christine (18:07):
And it is difficult, but the more I've done that, it
is, it is getting easier.
but I've also learned that alongwith those triggers comes the
intuitive nature of like,something's not right here.
This is a red flag, like, youknow, a huge warning.
And so that's something thatI've learned recently about
(18:29):
myself and, and it feels good tofeel like, okay, this is like
light years from where I waswhen I first got divorced years
ago.
So, you know, I'm, I'm levelingup.
But, dammit, I'm ready to not betriggered like that anymore.
Like, I am done.
I
Nannette (18:49):
that you're willing to sit with it though, because so
many people, it's uncomfortableand they don't want to sit with
it.
And so they'll, you know, pleasedon't take this wrong, but
they'll numb it with a pill orthey'll numb it by taking
something that will make themsleep or alcohol or whatever,
but they'll numb it so theydon't have to feel it.
But the problem is, is when thatwears off.
It's still there waiting foryou.
(19:11):
Like this little tiny monster.
And I was like, no, you stillget to look at this.
You can numb me for years.
I don't give a shit.
Cause you're still going to feelit when you come out of this
shit.
So it's like, if you realizethat this is part of the
journey.
Yeah.
I love that you sit with that.
Cause so many people are tooafraid or they just, it's just
too uncomfortable.
Christine (19:30):
uncomfortable.
It is uncomfortable, but it,again, there's, there's a piece
that comes with it that like,Okay.
Each time it's getting and youknow, I work on doing breath
work and my own ways of healingand each time I do that also, I
feel like I've healed a lot andit's just getting easier and
(19:52):
easier.
The fight or flight is stillthere, but again, I can calm
myself down quicker and addressit and heal it.
And.
So, yeah, I absolutely lovethat.
And, and really honestly, youcan read all the books, you can
go to therapy, but you're notgoing to fully heal until you
have to practice it until youhave to really apply what you've
(20:14):
learned and discover exactly,well, one, we can say all day
long, well, this triggers me.
How do you know until it does,you know, there are things that
trigger me that I'm like, holyshit.
And I have to dive into why, youknow, where did this come from?
So, so yeah, I'm just the posterchild for healing and, and
Brad (20:35):
But you know what?
We should all be our own posterchild for healing though, right?
We should all be doing thatanyway.
So yeah, that's awesome.
Good for you.
Nannette (20:44):
you.
Brad (20:44):
Good for you sitting in the Well,
Christine (20:47):
Well, I mean, I did have to get my ass kicked first.
Nannette (20:50):
You're stubborn.
We know it.
It's fine.
Christine (20:52):
Universe is like, fine, here's a black eye.
God damn it,
Brad (20:56):
damn it again.
Nannette (20:57):
I have to make you listen this way, I will.
Christine (21:00):
way, I will.
I learned the hard way.
No.
Brad (21:03):
Sometimes the hard way is good.
Nannette (21:04):
Bradley J.
Zeman.
Brad (21:06):
What?
Christine (21:07):
I tried to say it before she got it.
You
Brad (21:10):
You two perverted
Christine (21:11):
Yeah,
Nannette (21:12):
Yeah.
Uh huh.
We hang out with
Brad (21:13):
That was, that was a very, very benign comment that you
guys just took the wrong
Christine (21:18):
Oh,
Nannette (21:19):
Oh yeah.
Cause you're so innocent.
Yeah.
Brad (21:22):
don't know if anyone can realize this, but I am being
picked on.
Nannette (21:25):
Uh huh.
Christine (21:26):
you are the only man in the room.
Brad (21:27):
Yeah, it's very
Christine (21:29):
So
Nannette (21:29):
He's actually a lesbian, but whatever.
Brad (21:31):
Pseudo masculinity.
Christine (21:34):
I need a t shirt.
Brad (21:35):
Oh my god, yes.
Christine (21:37):
it has to be hot pink.
Brad (21:38):
Yeah, Pseudo masculinity.
So, Christine got ghosted by aguy.
She had some greatconversations, but Christine's
kind of a smartass and, uh,well, I should let you tell the
story.
So tell us about pseudomasculinity, Christine.
Christine (21:54):
so, so, you know, someone was trying to really
honestly, I think he was tryingto get in my pants.
And, um, He tried to play thewhole, uh, energy healer, you
know, Ooh, I'm going to get toher this way.
He even used Deadpool.
Like how rude is that?
And when he figured out I wasn'tthat girl, he ghosted me, but he
(22:17):
posted something on Facebookwhere he said something along
the effect of, um, Man areturning women into lesbians
these days.
And so I commented and I said,hashtag pseudo masculinity, man,
bro, text me right away.
And he's like, did you just sayI have no balls and pseudo
masculinity?
(22:37):
And he was so offended
Brad (22:39):
I have
Christine (22:40):
had to Google it.
And it was only on UrbanDictionary.
I'm like, of course, because Imade it up.
Brad (22:46):
it
Christine (22:47):
I didn't know it was an actual term.
Okay, bro.
Brad (22:50):
like, of course, made it
Christine (22:55):
My own.
It's
Brad (22:57):
Oh, our energy just vibes.
I can feel a connection betweenyou and I.
We've definitely known eachother so many lifetimes.
Christine (23:05):
Oh, I've had that
Brad (23:06):
Oh my God.
Like seriously, women fall forthat.
Nannette (23:11):
No.
Christine (23:12):
but it's been a while since I've had someone do this.
Brad (23:16):
someone's fallen
Christine (23:16):
Well, someone
Brad (23:17):
would stop doing it.
Nannette (23:18):
it I know.
Christine (23:20):
to give it up.
I thought he was cool.
I really did.
I love the bantering, you know,I am a smart ass.
It was fun, but I did notice,and I felt his energy.
I can feel people's energy evenover the phone text I felt it
pull away.
Brad (23:33):
I can totally feel your
Nannette (23:34):
this work for
Christine (23:35):
Wait, could this work for me?
I need to find
Brad (23:38):
Do you know what?
Yeah, that's your, that's yournew angle, Christine.
Yeah.
Next time, next time you go tothe club, just be like, I can
totally feel this energy betweenus.
I could feel it across the roomand, and you just have this aura
about
Christine (23:50):
just going to say the aura.
And ooh, is that my name?
I see my name.
using it.
Yeah, totally.
You're
Brad (23:57):
You're welcome.
Christine (23:58):
report
Brad (23:59):
Return and report.
Christine (24:00):
and report.
Gosh.
Oh, you can live vicariouslythrough me.
It's fine.
Thank You
Brad (24:07):
You know, honestly, I would not want to live through
the dating scene again.
Christine (24:10):
I'm so over it.
Brad (24:11):
yeah, I don't envy you at all.
It was one of those times whereit's right after the divorce.
I was like, Oh shit.
You know?
And for a long time I like, Ididn't want anything to do with
anyone else.
And then I started dating.
I'm like, kind of like you, I'mlike, wait a minute, Like women
like me.
So I'm going to go out and I'mgoing to, Have fun and do
(24:35):
whatever, but it
Nannette (24:37):
Have a lot of sex, you mean?
Brad (24:39):
No, that's not what I said.
Christine (24:41):
a dirty little whore?
Nannette (24:42):
was a ho bag.
Yeah.
He slept around all the time.
One night stands all the time.
Just bang, bang, bang.
Done.
Brad (24:48):
Yeah, I was the biggest slut in like
Christine (24:51):
and he used He used to call me Ho-fo-sho
Brad (24:54):
me.
No, you were Tinder Tanner.
Christine (24:56):
Tinder.
Tanner I did try Tinder backthen.
That was a long time ago.
Brad (25:00):
That was a long time ago.
My gosh.
Yeah, I've known Christine aslong as I've known, you No, Nan,
that's kind of crazy.
Nannette (25:07):
But you dated Christine before you dated
Brad (25:09):
We went on a date and it just,
Christine (25:11):
We were more like pals.
This
Brad (25:13):
This is, this is like a sister.
You know what I mean?
Nannette (25:16):
yeah.
Christine (25:17):
Yeah, And then it was just like, well, we can be
office, husband, wife, and talkabout all of our
Nannette (25:23):
of our dating.
He did?
Christine (25:25):
You did?
Yeah.
Nannette (25:26):
like,
Brad (25:27):
Yeah, because I'm like, oh yeah, my, my,
Nannette (25:29):
my, My work
Brad (25:29):
my
Nannette (25:30):
My work spouse.
I'm like, no, how about no,because you did take her on a
date.
I'm like, did you kiss her?
He goes, well, yeah,
Christine (25:39):
We did.
Brad (25:40):
Exactly.
That's how memorable it
Christine (25:42):
like, I didn't
Nannette (25:43):
Oh no, she's like my sister.
Christine (25:45):
Yes.
Nannette (25:45):
That's what he said.
Christine (25:46):
were like that.
But I
Nannette (25:48):
But I still love teasing him.
It was way fun to
Brad (25:51):
Rich was my work spouse too.
So I'm like, well, that's,there's nothing, no harm there.
Nannette (25:55):
that's why I thought you were gay.
just Justine, tell us about
Christine (26:01):
one that I would go to, go into work on Monday, and
everyone, Okay, Christine, tellus about your weekend, and I was
like, so Brad, there's this guy,and he's like, Oh my god,
Nannette (26:12):
name.
S
Christine (26:13):
are you that dumb?
Brad (26:14):
Wait, okay, there was a time where she dated like three
guys who had the same name likein a row.
Christine (26:21):
Oh, I recycled names?
Yes! Yes! She
Brad (26:24):
would use the same name and I'm, I'm pretty sure it was
so she didn't say the wrongname.
Christine (26:29):
I almost choked on my coffee.
Brad (26:31):
This is new Greg.
That's old Greg.
Christine (26:34):
Greg.
Old
Brad (26:36):
Now, which Greg are we on now?
This is Greg 3.
0.
gay.
Christine (26:41):
I really, I
Brad (26:42):
people I
Christine (26:44):
Let's see, how many Cody's?
How many?
Brad (26:46):
So it was like,
Christine (26:48):
I don't want to.
Brad (26:49):
guy and just
Nannette (26:51):
to.
Christine (26:52):
And I was the relationship girl too.
So it was like I would meet aguy and just like so codependent
and I would jump into arelationship three to six months
later.
I'm in another one and I justkept doing that.
And yeah, I was like
Nannette (27:04):
That's exhausting.
Christine (27:06):
Yeah, it was.
It was, but I never took thetime to like sit with myself.
It was just go, go, go likedate.
And then I was
Nannette (27:15):
So you didn't know yourself well enough to know
what you wanted, so you werejust, you were just keeping
busy.
Christine (27:21):
Yep,
Thank you so much for joining uson this first episode of our
collaboration between the Mormonto medium podcast and the ship
behind the show.
Make sure to tune in next weekfor more juicy details about
Christine's dating life and mineand Nan's.
It should be a lot of fun.
If you enjoyed the show, pleasemake sure to like and subscribe
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and leave us a positive review.
It It really helps us out withgetting visibility for the show.
Thanks a ton everybody.
We'll see you on the other sideof the veil.
Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll
talk about spirituality, theparanormal religion, and my
journey going from Mormon tomedium.
I'm Nanette Wride.
Thanks for listening.
Now let's go have some fun.
Welcome to the Mormon to mediumpodcast.
(00:22):
we are your host, Brad and Nan,and we're here with a really
good friend, Christine Tanner,and she has a podcast.
You need to go check out too.
It is the shit behind the showand oh my gosh, well can relate.
Brad (00:35):
Yep, we're going to have a great show for everyone today,
so we're really that you'rejoining us this week.
Christine (00:41):
And welcome back to the shit behind the show.
This week I am joined by Bradand Nan from the Mormon to
Medium podcast.
Super excited.
We are going to just collabtoday and have fun with this.
Thanks for joining guys.
Brad (00:56):
Absolutely.
Nannette (00:57):
though?
I am.
Just keep
Brad (01:00):
you happy
Nannette (01:02):
Alright.
Yeah.
Yours might be cold, yeah?
Christine (01:05):
Yes, thank you for the coffee.
Nannette (01:07):
and I will make
Christine (01:08):
It's getting there.
Nannette (01:09):
So, if we have to take a pause.
Christine (01:13):
Okay,
Nannette (01:14):
Run back, take two minutes,
Christine (01:16):
I'm spoiled here.
Nan makes her own creamer.
Brad (01:19):
of like a Susie homemaker.
She's the Susie homemaker ofmediums.
Nannette (01:25):
mediums, She, she's a medium
Brad (01:28):
She just
Nannette (01:29):
good homemaker,
Christine (01:30):
she's,
Brad (01:30):
she's a medium homemaker.
She's not really high on thelist, but
Christine (01:34):
goals,
Brad (01:35):
goals, goals to be a medium, medium homemaker look,
We've been looking forward tothis podcast for a while.
So we actually had recorded anepisode a few weeks ago and.
Talk about the shit behind theshow.
Things just didn't work out.
And so sometimes you just haveto scrap a project and say, you
know what?
It wasn't meant to be at thattime.
(01:57):
We'll do it again later.
So thank you for, uh, yourpatience, Christine, for working
with us like this.
It's so weird how none of theelectronics wanted to
Christine (02:06):
Thank you.
Mine didn't work.
Like nothing worked that day.
No.
And we had some great content.
Nannette (02:13):
We did.
Brad (02:14):
yeah.
We had so much fun.
Christine (02:16):
Like two hours worth, probably.
Nannette (02:19):
then an hour before that.
So, yeah.
Christine (02:21):
And it didn't, none of it worked out.
Nannette (02:22):
No.
Brad (02:23):
that's the problem is we always go to breakfast or lunch
or whatever, and all your reallygood conversation comes out
then.
And you're like, oh, we shouldhave said that on the show.
Christine (02:32):
Yeah, we should have a mic with us at all times.
Nannette (02:35):
Oh, you mean like the last hour we've been sitting
here?
Christine (02:37):
Yeah.
Nannette (02:38):
you guys.
Christine (02:39):
And Nana's been like, guys, come on.
Brad (02:41):
like, stop.
Will you push record?
Christine (02:43):
record?
Brad (02:44):
Just push record.
So
Nannette (02:46):
So a lot of people probably don't know this, but
Brad and Christine used to worktogether.
So, um, they became friends thatway.
And, um, and I later when I wasdating Brad met Christine and we
kind of didn't have a whole lotto do with each other until your
shit behind the show startedhappening.
And she just reached out to meone morning and was like, Hey,
(03:07):
can you pull some cards for me?
And I was like, she's talking tome.
She usually talks to Brad.
Christine (03:13):
It was this crazy feeling of like, Spirit was just
like hitting me on the head.
You have to reach out to her.
You have to reach out to her.
Ask her if she does, because Ididn't even know that you did.
tarot readings.
I think I just asked, do you doreadings?
And, and it was amazing.
Did a great reading
Nannette (03:32):
Thank you for
Brad (03:32):
what was
Nannette (03:33):
out.
That's what I
Brad (03:35):
That's what I want, what was amazing about it?
Christine (03:37):
I told you, everyone would know.
No, she was,
Nannette (03:40):
knew
Brad (03:41):
that out there.
She
Christine (03:42):
she was spot on with my spirit guide right now, which
is my grandmother.
That I feel a lot, but knew mynickname that she calls me,
called me and just some otherinsight in life that I'm still
waiting for, but calming andcomforting.
Brad (04:02):
I love that.
That's super cool.
It's super cool that you know,your spirit guides.
Christine (04:07):
you know, you're sure guys.
One,
Nannette (04:10):
Yeah, you have a couple more.
Christine (04:12):
Yeah, I just know of the one, but.
I would love to, Ooh, that wouldbe fun.
A fun show, right?
Nannette (04:18):
Spare guides?
Christine (04:19):
To talk about
Nannette (04:20):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, the stories.
Christine (04:23):
Yes.
We have lots.
Nannette (04:26):
It would be so fun to like step you through a
meditation, to talk to yourspirit guide.
That would be really
Christine (04:32):
Can we?
Nannette (04:34):
If you want.
Christine (04:35):
Oh, let's do that.
Nannette (04:36):
Brad's like, wait, what about me?
Remember you don't care aboutyour spirit guides.
Brad (04:40):
I'm good.
Yeah.
They're there.
They're good.
It's all he needs to know.
Christine (04:44):
That's all he needs to know.
Nannette (04:46):
It's true.
You would think being married tome because I'm an Aries, so I
have to be in control.
I have to know everything'sworking and all the things I
even asked him, I'm like, don'tyou want to know about your
spirit team?
Don't you want to know who yourspirit guides are?
He's like, yeah.
Like, for real like me,
Brad (05:05):
they're there.
Well, look here.
Here's my thing.
If you overthink it too much,then It ruins the, the magic,
right?
Let there be, it does.
Let there be some magic and justlet things happen the way
they're supposed to.
If you sit back and go, alright,it's going to work out.
It usually does.
And if you stress out about itand you put all of your energy
(05:28):
into like, oh my god, this ishorrible.
Guess what?
It, it really does continue tobe horrible.
You, you get what you put outthere.
Christine (05:37):
be horrible.
You, you get what you put outthere.
See,
Nannette (05:48):
I was the same way.
I wanted to know because Iwanted to know why they were
with me.
And what they brought to thetable.
Because, you know, every spiritguide will have different, um,
gifts that they can, that theycan do.
So, I have a new spirit guidethat came in.
Funny little thing.
I'm not going to tell youeverything about her, but, um, I
(06:09):
did some shit that, and I saidsome words the other day that
are not English that I don'tknow, but she told me to say
them and I said them three timesand she blew some stuff into the
air and I was like, holy shit,something's going down.
Like
Christine (06:24):
Oh, wow.
Nannette (06:25):
they, They bring their gifts that they have created in
their life, um, to you so thatyou can.
by them.
So they're like your personaltutors.
So, um, very, very cool peopleor spirits or whatever, but
they're still people.
Christine (06:39):
So fun.
Brad (06:41):
So Christine, tell us a little bit about your show.
Christine (06:44):
I can get started why I started it.
Brad (06:47):
Yeah, that's perfect.
Christine (06:48):
Okay.
Uh, so, I was the typical newlydivorced single shitshow who got
out there and just, not only doyou, you know, Or did I bring
all of what I call my emotionalbackpack?
You know, you throw all of yourstuff in that you've carried
through conditioning, throughlife, through marriage,
(07:09):
whatever.
Childhood.
So I had all of that because mychildhood was colorful.
Then, you know, the marriage andthe being cheated on and just
the stuff.
So I get out in the single worldand I'm like, ooh.
Boys,
Brad (07:26):
attention.
Christine (07:27):
you know, attention.
Did it
Brad (07:30):
ask you this.
How old were you when you gotmarried?
Christine (07:33):
was 19.
Makes sense, right?
Brad (07:36):
yeah.
Well, I, I was 18.
How old were you Nan?
16.
16.
So yeah, we were all young,married folks from Mormon
Christine (07:46):
Yes.
And then having children young,like I was, you know, Being a
mom when everyone else was goingto college and
Brad (07:55):
right.
Christine (07:56):
and so yeah, get divorced.
And all of a sudden I'm pretty,you know, all these guys and I
get out there and I date themall.
And I'm just like, as I'm goingalong, I'm spreading my traumas.
Out to everyone else, you know,I had no business dating.
I would date guys that wereready for marriage and I would
(08:20):
just, you know, three to sixmonths.
I'm like, Oh, I'm gone by anddidn't even give a shit about
their feelings or anything.
It was just like, I'm out.
Brad (08:26):
I'm That's so cold.
Christine (08:27):
I know, but I didn't realize it at the time.
I wasn't on purpose, but
Nannette (08:32):
I have a question though.
You said guys that were readyfor marriage.
Is that even really a thing?
Because they've got theirbackpacks too, right?
And most guys don't do theirhealing as quickly as girls do.
So I'm just wondering, were theyjust wanting somebody to come
and be toxic with them?
Christine (08:51):
Yes, wanting marriage, I should say.
Wanting
Nannette (08:55):
but wanting marriage.
Okay.
Christine (08:56):
And I was not even, that was not even a word in my
vocabulary.
I was like, oh hell no, neveragain.
Like, I was a mess.
Brad (09:05):
a mess.
Well, and after you've beenthrough a divorce and it's
messy, that is the last thingyou want.
That is the last thing you'relooking for.
You're like, nope, that's nothappening.
Christine (09:16):
and mine was pretty gross.
So then I, I get remarried andon our honeymoon, he beat the
shit out of me.
Nannette (09:26):
Woah.
Christine (09:27):
and so what does that tell me?
Like, girlfriend, you got topull your shit together.
And do some work on yourself andmeet this guy on a dating app.
And we just, you know, decidedwe're just buddies.
And he's like, you should reallyshare your stuff with people.
(09:48):
It could help them.
Brad (09:49):
say your stuff or your shit.
You've got a lot of shit,Christine.
Christine (09:52):
got a lot of shit, my, all of this shit in my
backpack And people liked it,but.
The one thing that I learnedthrough all of this is they like
it because they can relate andthey get something from it
because it's like almost like,okay, she's already carved this
(10:13):
path the wrong way.
I'm gonna take the other one theright way
Nannette (10:17):
the
Brad (10:17):
And just
Christine (10:18):
and just follow where she tells me to go.
Brad (10:20):
If only people did that.
I think humans by nature love tolearn things the hard way.
We have to learn it
Christine (10:27):
one?
No.
No,
Brad (10:28):
No, no, you're not.
Christine (10:30):
learning is,
Brad (10:31):
Vicarious learning is, it's a great concept, but it's
so seldom actually done.
I
Christine (10:37):
it differently, it's, that's how I got started.
And then I doing, well, went onmy healing journey, began it
about that point.
It was like, okay, you've got tostop.
You're going to keep doing it.
This pattern going andAttracting these men.
I am still trying to get thisdown.
By the way.
I am NOT I Don't feel like Ihave perfected it yet.
(11:01):
So taking a step back againtrying to figure it out, but
Brad (11:06):
Christine, can I ask you a question?
So you brought up gettingmarried and going on your
honeymoon and he was abusive andI don't want to talk about
something that's hurtful to you.
So, yeah.
Christine (11:18):
Oh,
Brad (11:18):
You know,
Christine (11:19):
know me, it's fine.
Okay.
Brad (11:21):
but, but if it's ugly or uncomfortable, you know, raise
your hand, ring the bell,whatever, go to your safe place
and cry.
I, you get it.
But why do you think thathappened?
Did you just settle?
You were like, Hey, I needcompanionship.
I need a relationship.
What drove you to pick thatperson?
Or was he not that person whileyou were dating?
Christine (11:41):
So he was not, while we were dating now other people.
Brad saw red flags.
Nannette (11:48):
Oh! You told her?
Oh,
Christine (11:52):
he did.
And yeah, tried to warn me, butI was like, but he was, he was a
provider and backstory.
And this is where you canrelate.
He had recently lost his wifeand had her daughters that he
was still raising.
And they called me second mom.
Oh, And he's like, he used that.
(12:15):
They, they just want a mom andshe wanted you to be there for
them because they didn't have arelationship with their dad,
their biological dad.
And he, he knew I had known himfor 12 years.
He knew I had a kind heart and Iwas never fully attracted to him
(12:35):
or in it for the marriage.
It was more for all of the kids.
He was a great stepdad to all ofthem.
And I loved those girls.
But was he physically abusive?
No.
Was he verbally even?
No.
He was like, we didn't reallyfight.
Uh, just something snapped onthe honeymoon in Hawaii.
And then later I found out hehad beat his wife for years.
Nannette (12:59):
Wow.
Christine (13:00):
But was I in a place to even be remarried?
No.
Like I should, that would havebeen a great time to take that
two years and just do my work,you know, and, and discover who
I am.
But I didn't even realize thatthat was a thing at that time.
Does that make sense?
Nannette (13:17):
Oh, totally.
I think a lot of people don'trealize that when you get
divorced, that it's a loss.
And so you have to grieve thatloss and go through all of the
feelings, all of the emotionsthat that provides.
And if you skip that and juststart dating again, it's, it's
the rebound effect and it'snever the right guy ever.
And it's usually.
(13:38):
the same vibration as what youjust left.
So it's like, you're not gettinganything any better, but you
never know until you actuallysee that in hindsight, right?
Christine (13:48):
Yeah, yeah seeing it now And I, I try to notice the
right, I could tell you guysright now, I could sit here and
you're all going to shake yourhead and say, I'm full of shit.
I could sit here and say, Ohyeah, and I, I get it now and I
understand it now.
But as you all know, in thisroom, I recently just got out of
something that was an abusivecycle again.
Brad (14:08):
Yeah.
But you've got your feetunderneath you
Christine (14:09):
I've got both feet under me again, He's never gonna
let that one go.
Brad (14:14):
It was amazing.
Nannette (14:15):
That would Um, Yeah, so
Christine (14:19):
yeah, so I'm, I'm trying to back to the drawing
board, right?
And that's what I do.
Brad (14:24):
So if you were to talk to people and say, Hey, look, watch
for these red flags, what wouldthose be?
What would that look like tosomeone?
Who might be in that situationyou were in, how would you help
them avoid that?
Christine (14:37):
You know, I have learned The best way to know,
and the most accurate is followyour feelings and your gut.
Girls, we are not being crazy ifa guy says something to us and
it feels off and your nervoussystem starts to go a little
crazy and your stomach startsturning and they're saying, Oh,
you're full of shit.
No, you're not.
(14:57):
No.
Something is telling yousomething is off.
If you feel that at all, payattention to that.
That's a red flag.
And that's the best way is isjust listening to that and not
letting and it can be women towrite men and women can both be
abusive, not letting them tellyou like, Oh, it's all you, you
know, you're just crazy, becauseyou will find out later that
(15:19):
you're actually not fuckingcrazy.
Like, right, the truth alwayscomes out.
And and I'm very grateful forthis last relationship, though,
Because there was a lot of,there were good things that I
have taken from that, but alsoit triggered me a lot.
And that is so important in yourhealing because I have learned
(15:41):
to be triggered and sit withthat and sit with my emotion and
my nervous system going crazyand I can regulate myself now.
I don't need them to come to meand do it for me, but I've
learned how to do it myself.
And I also understand, okay,this is something that I need to
address is I'm being triggered.
And that was great for myhealing.
Brad (16:03):
I love that.
Well that's like Nan alwayssays, if you can feel it, you
can heal it.
So if you get triggered, that'san opportunity to heal and grow,
right?
Nannette (16:13):
Right.
And I just barely learnedsomething, by the way.
I know that you have, um, layersof trauma in your life, Like an
onion.
Brad (16:22):
onion.
Nannette (16:23):
but the layers of trauma, if you were to, you
know, put little dots across apiece of paper and then draw the
lines from trauma to trauma totrauma, and it can be, you know,
Childhood abuse to being chasedby a dog, but I mean, trauma,
anytime the body's had to gointo fight or flight, trauma,
trauma, upon trauma, upontrauma, right?
And they all have a vibration.
(16:44):
When you have one of thosetriggers, the trigger, as you
know, as you just pretty muchsaid, it is an invitation to
heal, right?
The body saying, I need you tolook at this.
I need you to sit with this, buta lot of times people don't like
to sit in the shit.
They don't like to look at it.
They don't like to.
Feel it.
And we have to feel it and letit pass through us, but the key
(17:04):
is letting it go body, mind andsoul.
But what I learned is thoselittle dots of each trauma.
If you have a trigger and onegoes off, guess what?
It's not just the one going off.
It's all of them at once Goingoff And that's why you feel so
shitty because it's all of thebelief systems, all of the
emotions from all of themtogether that are going off and
(17:26):
making it so that you absolutelycannot cope.
And then you are, you're like,okay, I'm gonna have to sit in
this for a couple of days, or doyou know what I mean?
That's why it takes so long toprocess it, um, in your mind so
that you can get ready to let goof it with your soul and letting
your body feel safe again.
But I thought it was reallyinteresting cause I had never
thought of trauma like that atall, but it literally,
Brad (17:49):
what's like a spiderweb.
It just kind of pings all theway across the web, right?
Nannette (17:53):
Oh, totally, totally.
Christine (17:56):
And that does make sense because I will shake.
My nervous system just goesinsane and I have to take a
minute and pull myself out ofthe situation and just sit with
that and breathe through
Nannette (18:07):
Yes.
Christine (18:07):
And it is difficult, but the more I've done that, it
is, it is getting easier.
but I've also learned that alongwith those triggers comes the
intuitive nature of like,something's not right here.
This is a red flag, like, youknow, a huge warning.
And so that's something thatI've learned recently about
(18:29):
myself and, and it feels good tofeel like, okay, this is like
light years from where I waswhen I first got divorced years
ago.
So, you know, I'm, I'm levelingup.
But, dammit, I'm ready to not betriggered like that anymore.
Like, I am done.
I
Nannette (18:49):
that you're willing to sit with it though, because so
many people, it's uncomfortableand they don't want to sit with
it.
And so they'll, you know, pleasedon't take this wrong, but
they'll numb it with a pill orthey'll numb it by taking
something that will make themsleep or alcohol or whatever,
but they'll numb it so theydon't have to feel it.
But the problem is, is when thatwears off.
It's still there waiting foryou.
(19:11):
Like this little tiny monster.
And I was like, no, you stillget to look at this.
You can numb me for years.
I don't give a shit.
Cause you're still going to feelit when you come out of this
shit.
So it's like, if you realizethat this is part of the
journey.
Yeah.
I love that you sit with that.
Cause so many people are tooafraid or they just, it's just
too uncomfortable.
Christine (19:30):
uncomfortable.
It is uncomfortable, but it,again, there's, there's a piece
that comes with it that like,Okay.
Each time it's getting and youknow, I work on doing breath
work and my own ways of healingand each time I do that also, I
feel like I've healed a lot andit's just getting easier and
(19:52):
easier.
The fight or flight is stillthere, but again, I can calm
myself down quicker and addressit and heal it.
And.
So, yeah, I absolutely lovethat.
And, and really honestly, youcan read all the books, you can
go to therapy, but you're notgoing to fully heal until you
have to practice it until youhave to really apply what you've
(20:14):
learned and discover exactly,well, one, we can say all day
long, well, this triggers me.
How do you know until it does,you know, there are things that
trigger me that I'm like, holyshit.
And I have to dive into why, youknow, where did this come from?
So, so yeah, I'm just the posterchild for healing and, and
Brad (20:35):
But you know what?
We should all be our own posterchild for healing though, right?
We should all be doing thatanyway.
So yeah, that's awesome.
Good for you.
Nannette (20:44):
you.
Brad (20:44):
Good for you sitting in the Well,
Christine (20:47):
Well, I mean, I did have to get my ass kicked first.
Nannette (20:50):
You're stubborn.
We know it.
It's fine.
Christine (20:52):
Universe is like, fine, here's a black eye.
God damn it,
Brad (20:56):
damn it again.
Nannette (20:57):
I have to make you listen this way, I will.
Christine (21:00):
way, I will.
I learned the hard way.
No.
Brad (21:03):
Sometimes the hard way is good.
Nannette (21:04):
Bradley J.
Zeman.
Brad (21:06):
What?
Christine (21:07):
I tried to say it before she got it.
You
Brad (21:10):
You two perverted
Christine (21:11):
Yeah,
Nannette (21:12):
Yeah.
Uh huh.
We hang out with
Brad (21:13):
That was, that was a very, very benign comment that you
guys just took the wrong
Christine (21:18):
Oh,
Nannette (21:19):
Oh yeah.
Cause you're so innocent.
Yeah.
Brad (21:22):
don't know if anyone can realize this, but I am being
picked on.
Nannette (21:25):
Uh huh.
Christine (21:26):
you are the only man in the room.
Brad (21:27):
Yeah, it's very
Christine (21:29):
So
Nannette (21:29):
He's actually a lesbian, but whatever.
Brad (21:31):
Pseudo masculinity.
Christine (21:34):
I need a t shirt.
Brad (21:35):
Oh my god, yes.
Christine (21:37):
it has to be hot pink.
Brad (21:38):
Yeah, Pseudo masculinity.
So, Christine got ghosted by aguy.
She had some greatconversations, but Christine's
kind of a smartass and, uh,well, I should let you tell the
story.
So tell us about pseudomasculinity, Christine.
Christine (21:54):
so, so, you know, someone was trying to really
honestly, I think he was tryingto get in my pants.
And, um, He tried to play thewhole, uh, energy healer, you
know, Ooh, I'm going to get toher this way.
He even used Deadpool.
Like how rude is that?
And when he figured out I wasn'tthat girl, he ghosted me, but he
(22:17):
posted something on Facebookwhere he said something along
the effect of, um, Man areturning women into lesbians
these days.
And so I commented and I said,hashtag pseudo masculinity, man,
bro, text me right away.
And he's like, did you just sayI have no balls and pseudo
masculinity?
(22:37):
And he was so offended
Brad (22:39):
I have
Christine (22:40):
had to Google it.
And it was only on UrbanDictionary.
I'm like, of course, because Imade it up.
Brad (22:46):
it
Christine (22:47):
I didn't know it was an actual term.
Okay, bro.
Brad (22:50):
like, of course, made it
Christine (22:55):
My own.
It's
Brad (22:57):
Oh, our energy just vibes.
I can feel a connection betweenyou and I.
We've definitely known eachother so many lifetimes.
Christine (23:05):
Oh, I've had that
Brad (23:06):
Oh my God.
Like seriously, women fall forthat.
Nannette (23:11):
No.
Christine (23:12):
but it's been a while since I've had someone do this.
Brad (23:16):
someone's fallen
Christine (23:16):
Well, someone
Brad (23:17):
would stop doing it.
Nannette (23:18):
it I know.
Christine (23:20):
to give it up.
I thought he was cool.
I really did.
I love the bantering, you know,I am a smart ass.
It was fun, but I did notice,and I felt his energy.
I can feel people's energy evenover the phone text I felt it
pull away.
Brad (23:33):
I can totally feel your
Nannette (23:34):
this work for
Christine (23:35):
Wait, could this work for me?
I need to find
Brad (23:38):
Do you know what?
Yeah, that's your, that's yournew angle, Christine.
Yeah.
Next time, next time you go tothe club, just be like, I can
totally feel this energy betweenus.
I could feel it across the roomand, and you just have this aura
about
Christine (23:50):
just going to say the aura.
And ooh, is that my name?
I see my name.
using it.
Yeah, totally.
You're
Brad (23:57):
You're welcome.
Christine (23:58):
report
Brad (23:59):
Return and report.
Christine (24:00):
and report.
Gosh.
Oh, you can live vicariouslythrough me.
It's fine.
Thank You
Brad (24:07):
You know, honestly, I would not want to live through
the dating scene again.
Christine (24:10):
I'm so over it.
Brad (24:11):
yeah, I don't envy you at all.
It was one of those times whereit's right after the divorce.
I was like, Oh shit.
You know?
And for a long time I like, Ididn't want anything to do with
anyone else.
And then I started dating.
I'm like, kind of like you, I'mlike, wait a minute, Like women
like me.
So I'm going to go out and I'mgoing to, Have fun and do
(24:35):
whatever, but it
Nannette (24:37):
Have a lot of sex, you mean?
Brad (24:39):
No, that's not what I said.
Christine (24:41):
a dirty little whore?
Nannette (24:42):
was a ho bag.
Yeah.
He slept around all the time.
One night stands all the time.
Just bang, bang, bang.
Done.
Brad (24:48):
Yeah, I was the biggest slut in like
Christine (24:51):
and he used He used to call me Ho-fo-sho
Brad (24:54):
me.
No, you were Tinder Tanner.
Christine (24:56):
Tinder.
Tanner I did try Tinder backthen.
That was a long time ago.
Brad (25:00):
That was a long time ago.
My gosh.
Yeah, I've known Christine aslong as I've known, you No, Nan,
that's kind of crazy.
Nannette (25:07):
But you dated Christine before you dated
Brad (25:09):
We went on a date and it just,
Christine (25:11):
We were more like pals.
This
Brad (25:13):
This is, this is like a sister.
You know what I mean?
Nannette (25:16):
yeah.
Christine (25:17):
Yeah, And then it was just like, well, we can be
office, husband, wife, and talkabout all of our
Nannette (25:23):
of our dating.
He did?
Christine (25:25):
You did?
Yeah.
Nannette (25:26):
like,
Brad (25:27):
Yeah, because I'm like, oh yeah, my, my,
Nannette (25:29):
my, My work
Brad (25:29):
my
Nannette (25:30):
My work spouse.
I'm like, no, how about no,because you did take her on a
date.
I'm like, did you kiss her?
He goes, well, yeah,
Christine (25:39):
We did.
Brad (25:40):
Exactly.
That's how memorable it
Christine (25:42):
like, I didn't
Nannette (25:43):
Oh no, she's like my sister.
Christine (25:45):
Yes.
Nannette (25:45):
That's what he said.
Christine (25:46):
were like that.
But I
Nannette (25:48):
But I still love teasing him.
It was way fun to
Brad (25:51):
Rich was my work spouse too.
So I'm like, well, that's,there's nothing, no harm there.
Nannette (25:55):
that's why I thought you were gay.
just Justine, tell us about
Christine (26:01):
one that I would go to, go into work on Monday, and
everyone, Okay, Christine, tellus about your weekend, and I was
like, so Brad, there's this guy,and he's like, Oh my god,
Nannette (26:12):
name.
S
Christine (26:13):
are you that dumb?
Brad (26:14):
Wait, okay, there was a time where she dated like three
guys who had the same name likein a row.
Christine (26:21):
Oh, I recycled names?
Yes! Yes! She
Brad (26:24):
would use the same name and I'm, I'm pretty sure it was
so she didn't say the wrongname.
Christine (26:29):
I almost choked on my coffee.
Brad (26:31):
This is new Greg.
That's old Greg.
Christine (26:34):
Greg.
Old
Brad (26:36):
Now, which Greg are we on now?
This is Greg 3.
0.
gay.
Christine (26:41):
I really, I
Brad (26:42):
people I
Christine (26:44):
Let's see, how many Cody's?
How many?
Brad (26:46):
So it was like,
Christine (26:48):
I don't want to.
Brad (26:49):
guy and just
Nannette (26:51):
to.
Christine (26:52):
And I was the relationship girl too.
So it was like I would meet aguy and just like so codependent
and I would jump into arelationship three to six months
later.
I'm in another one and I justkept doing that.
And yeah, I was like
Nannette (27:04):
That's exhausting.
Christine (27:06):
Yeah, it was.
It was, but I never took thetime to like sit with myself.
It was just go, go, go likedate.
And then I was
Nannette (27:15):
So you didn't know yourself well enough to know
what you wanted, so you werejust, you were just keeping
busy.
Christine (27:21):
Yep,
Thank you so much for joining uson this first episode of our
collaboration between the Mormonto medium podcast and the ship
behind the show.
Make sure to tune in next weekfor more juicy details about
Christine's dating life and mineand Nan's.
It should be a lot of fun.
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We'll see you on the other sideof the veil.
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