December 5, 2024 • 22 mins
Welcome to the second part of the collaboration between the Mormon to Medium Podcast and The Shit Behind the Show Podcast with Christine Tanner. In this episode, Christine steers the conversation back to the relationship between Nann and Brad. Nannette delves into her journey and shares the story of moving from a tumultuous past involving multiple relationships and a tragic loss to finding real love and friendship with Brad. Through anecdotes about her dating experiences post-divorce and widowhood, Nanette discusses the importance of soulmates, spiritual journeys, and the crucial role of friendship in her love story. Get ready for a heartfelt mix of humor and raw truth as these hosts explore themes of love, loss, and healing. Don't forget to catch Episode 93 for the beginning of this conversation and stay tuned for Episode 95!
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Nannette (00:01):
Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll
talk about spirituality, theparanormal religion, and my
journey going from Mormon tomedium.
I'm Nanette Wride.
Thanks for listening.
Now let's go have some fun.
Brad (00:21):
Hello, everybody.
Welcome to the show.
This is the second part of agreat conversation Collaboration
between the Mormon to mediumpodcast and the ship behind the
show podcast with ChristineTanner We Are so grateful that
you joined us, but if youhaven't listened to episode 93,
you might want to go back, catchyourself up on the conversation,
(00:43):
then sit back and enjoy.
Christine (00:45):
And I was the relationship girl too.
So it was like I would meet aguy and just like so codependent
and I would jump into arelationship three to six months
later.
I'm in another one and I justkept doing that.
And yeah, I was like
Nannette (00:57):
That's exhausting.
Christine (00:59):
Yeah, it was.
It was, but I never took thetime to like sit with myself.
It was just go, go, go likedate.
And then I was
Nannette (01:08):
So you didn't know yourself well enough to know
what you wanted, so you werejust, you were just keeping
busy.
Christine (01:15):
Yep, I was just, I call it putting a band aid on
it, right?
The dating and just busy all thetime.
I even, I would work Saturdaysand Sundays.
I would go into work alone andwatch football just to occupy my
mind.
Nannette (01:30):
Wow.
Christine (01:31):
it was, I just never stopped.
And, And as you know, like I wasgoing through a ton, you know,
still going through divorcestuff.
Like I was a shit show.
I was seriously just a mess.
Nannette (01:43):
But how many people do that when they don't want to sit
in their shit and they don'twant to feel it?
So they just go a thousand milesan hour all the time.
So it's, you know, it's adiversion from having to have to
do their own work.
So many people walk around doingthat all the time.
Christine (01:59):
And that's why I started a show, but let's go
back to you guys.
Brad (02:03):
back
Christine (02:04):
So speaking of when we first met and stuff, first of
all, Brad came in and he to workand it was like, What cartoon
character is that on LooneyTunes?
That like, was it the skunk withthe hearts And the eyes?
That's, I swear, that's what itwas like.
And he was just Twitter pated.
And you guys have the cuteststory of like, where you came
(02:29):
from and how you evolvedtogether with two different
traumatic experiences.
Like divorce and being widowedand you guys have the most
amazing Marriage and friendship.
I'm so jealous of you guys
Nannette (02:48):
be jealous.
Christine (02:49):
but i'm jealous You
Brad (02:51):
You know, I think the key that you just hit on is
friendship because we becamefriends far before anything else
happened.
And I think that was the mostimportant step that we took.
But yeah, you're right.
Um, Nan definitely stalked mefor a while.
Nannette (03:05):
is hot though, Okay.
Him.
Christine (03:09):
you don't take hints, Brad.
Nannette (03:12):
oblivious,
Christine (03:13):
Apparently making
Nannette (03:14):
oblivious.
So my husband was murdered inJanuary of 2014 and all of the
pomp and circumstance and all ofthe public, everything
happening, I felt like I was ona really fast merry go round
that just never stopped.
I could never get off of it.
And so many people were justlike biting at me and wanting
(03:34):
more information or more a pieceof action or whatever.
So he waited until.
August, and then he reached outto me on messenger and he is, he
said, I just want to give you mycondolences and give you some of
my memories of Corey.
I used to work with him andtrain dogs with him and
literally he gave me literalmemories that were tangible and
(03:56):
I just sat there and sobbedbecause I had heard so many
times, I'm so sorry for yourloss.
You know, and it's like, thatdoesn't mean anything.
Don't tell me that I know youfeel bad, but tell me you feel
bad and just hug me.
But don't say, I feel so sorryfor your loss and walk away
because it's like, okay, thanks.
I think like, I don't even knowthat leaves me empty, but
(04:19):
tangible memories were like,they were like a balm for my
soul, you know?
And, so.
I looked him up on Facebookbecause I didn't know anything
about him.
I was like, Oh, he's so handsomeand he's bald.
And I had this, I've always hadthis fantasy about a bald guy.
So my husband who was killedfull head of hair, like you're
(04:39):
looking GQ hair and
Brad (04:41):
Oh, Cory had great hair.
Nannette (04:42):
He had great hair, pretty boy, like literally.
And he, he was like youthful allthe time.
It made me sick.
Like just never would age, but Ialways wanted a guy that was
bigger than me, but I never saidit.
Never said it.
I always wanted a bald guy.
Yeah.
I always wanted a guy that wasbigger energy.
And Corey was more blend intothe wall.
Don't pay attention to me typeof person.
(05:05):
He was my exact same height.
Our hands were the same size.
Our feet were the same size,like literally.
And like, I would tease himbecause he tried to pick me up
and his legs would buckle.
So like, it's like, no, I wantedsomebody that could Move me
around and like, make me feellike I was skinny cause I
probably wasn't like whatever.
But, um, so I'm looking at thesepictures of him and, and he is
(05:25):
with his kids and like he lookslike a really good dad and like
whatever.
And so I just kind of would saystuff on his Facebook every once
in a while.
And so that was in August.
So
Brad (05:34):
I I did.
Nannette (05:36):
I did just to see what he looked like and what he was
like, you know,
Christine (05:39):
we all do it.
Nannette (05:40):
But he was the only person, literally the only
person that gave me memories.
And so in October he had put apost up that said even Hitler
had a girlfriend.
I was like, Ooh, this means hedoesn't have a girlfriend.
Now we have to back up in mystory a little bit because
people will think, Oh, she's awidow.
Her husband was murdered inJanuary.
Now October she wants to date.
(06:00):
I had a gift from Corey.
And a couple of days before hewas killed, um, he was pacing in
our bedroom and he was sobbing.
Like his Royal blue eyes werejust full of tears and he was
just sobbing and he pulled hisbaby fine hair and pulled it out
and I'm like, what is wrong?
And he said, Nan, something isso wrong right here.
(06:20):
And he touched his heart and I'mlike, what do you mean?
Is it money?
Is it the kids?
Like what's wrong?
And he sat on the end of the bedand just stopped for him and he
looked up at me and he says, Ijust need to spend time with you
I was like, Okay, awesome.
Neither one of us have to go to,this is Monday.
Neither one of us have to go towork until Thursday.
And so let's spend timetogether.
(06:41):
This will be awesome.
I'll date you like awesome.
We'll spend this time together.
But he kept crying and he keptsobbing and he came over to me
and he grabbed hold of myshoulders and he said, Nan, when
I die.
I need you to promise me thatyou will fall in love and you'll
move forward.
You don't do well alone.
And I was like, fuck you.
You are not doing this shitright now.
(07:03):
Like back it up.
Like it was the maddest I'veever been with him in 18 years
of marriage.
It was like, I, because I'd hadthree dreams, he would be shot
and killed.
So I, and we had talked about itand he literally is nine months
from retirement.
So it was like, no, you were notdoing this right now.
This is not, but he, and heshook me.
It's like, Shaken baby syndromehere, shook me.
(07:24):
He said, Nan, promise me, as hehas these tears just streaming
down his face, I said, okay,fine.
Can we just stop talking aboutthis?
Brad (07:32):
But, but he said when, not
Nannette (07:34):
No.
Yeah.
He said when I die, not if hesaid when.
And so I think he had the headsup on Monday and on Thursday is
when he was murdered.
So, um, it was such a gift, butsuch a hard time when it
happened.
So that is why I moved ahead.
Like I did, because it was like.
Yeah, I'm not doing good bymyself here.
(07:55):
And I'm literally drowning and Idon't want to be in this space.
I need someone where I can feelsafe again because my safe was
murdered that day.
And my world is shattered.
And so that's why I started totalk to him.
And I was like, he felt safe.
He felt kind.
He felt like he was a goodperson.
so I gotten hold of him onmessenger when he had posted
(08:17):
that.
And I'm like, so
Brad (08:19):
but you had been dating other guys.
Nannette (08:21):
not very many.
No, not before that.
No, I started dating reallyheavy from October to April.
Really heavy between therebecause I was just like, fuck
it.
He's not listening to me.
So I'll just go do something
Christine (08:34):
not paying it.
He's not picking up when I'mputting
Nannette (08:36):
No, I was, I was legit like, so you don't have a
girlfriend.
No, I don't have a girlfriend.
I'm like, so what kind of girlsare you into?
And he goes, well, I've neverdated a blonde, so probably not
a blonde.
I was like, okay.
Okay.
So, and I'm like, so what kindof personality?
He goes, well, I want somebodythat's really happy, you know,
that, that likes to adventure.
He goes, and they, they have tohave, use proper grammar.
(08:58):
They have to know the differencebetween their, they're, and
there, and your, you're, andyore, and like all the things.
I'm like me, me, me, me thewhole time.
And
Christine (09:05):
pick me.
Nannette (09:06):
nothing over here, like not picking it up.
So he's telling me all aboutwhat he wants and I'm like,
check in all the boxes.
Like, I mean.
It's right here, right here.
You should date me.
And so we get done with theconversation.
I'm like, I know exactly who youshould date.
And he goes, really?
Who?
Well, that was the last time wetalked until the following
April.
Brad (09:24):
talked until the following April.
I
Nannette (09:26):
Oblivious.
Believe me.
Brad (09:27):
Oblivious.
Is that an appropriate
Christine (09:29):
Really, who?
Brad (09:30):
Yeah, who?
Wouldn't it be presumptive
Christine (09:33):
Who's the blonde here?
Brad (09:34):
if I was,
Christine (09:36):
I dunno.
Brad (09:37):
I was like, Oh yeah, you're totally into me.
Apparently I'm
Christine (09:40):
true.
I
Brad (09:40):
to date you.
Right?
That would be
Nannette (09:43):
if you were, if you were suave, you would be like,
so do you check any of thoseboxes?
Brad (09:49):
But I'm not, but I'm not Rico Suave.
Nannette (09:51):
who do you think I should date, man?
Christine (09:54):
Oh yeah, yeah.
I would've asked, oh yeah, tellme more.
Brad (09:57):
Okay.
Nannette (09:58):
But no, it, it literally like conversation
ended right there.
I didn't talk to him again.
I watched him and I, I saw thathe like traveled and at one
point he had to travel and go toa laundromat cause he got stuck
traveling and had to rewash hisclothes.
I'm like, Oh yeah, I don't wantto date anybody that travels
like that.
That's, that's not for me.
Brad (10:16):
That was a horrible Chicago trip.
Christine (10:18):
Yeah.
You traveled a lot.
Nannette (10:19):
Yeah.
Brad (10:20):
still do.
Nannette (10:21):
He still does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But in the meantime, I datedguys and I, by the way, I'd
never dated before ever.
So I got knocked up at 16 first,first experience and it was not
a good one.
I didn't even know what sex was.
Okay.
So knocked up at 16, married for10 years, super abusive, um, got
(10:42):
divorced, um, went to myfriend's house with, and I was
hanging out with her and herboyfriend.
We went to a bar and, where Imet another guy.
Married him like three monthslater.
So only saw him.
So I never really dated.
Christine (10:57):
Yeah,
Nannette (10:57):
He used to beat the shit out.
He, he drank a 12 pack of beerevery night and he chewed and
smoked and he would pull my kidsout of bed at night when they
were sleeping, beat the shit outof them.
And he would lock me in roomsand tell me what I could wear,
what I could say, like all thethings.
So that lasted three years causeI needed to punish myself.
That was my, I hate God stage.
that I went through.
(11:17):
And then, then I went, therewas, there's a radio station
that was doing like, um,calendars, you know, and so that
all these girls, trying out forall these calendars and stuff.
And I ended up being one of thecalendar pinups.
Girls.
And, very,
Brad (11:32):
month were you?
Nannette (11:33):
I was a June and I was the cover.
I was hot.
anyways, anyways, I had somereally cool bathing suits.
I think that's why.
But anyway,
Christine (11:41):
I want to see these.
Nannette (11:43):
okay.
It's a long time ago and so manyNans ago, but.
Brad (11:47):
I honestly, I think Nan is way more attractive now than she
was then because there is a verydifferent confidence vibe.
You can, you can feel the lackof confidence in her photos from
that calendar versus theconfident woman you see before
you now.
Very different.
Christine (12:05):
is sexy.
Brad (12:07):
is very
Nannette (12:07):
That is what he told me when we were dating.
He said, you know, the sexiestthing about a woman is her
confidence.
It doesn't matter what she lookslike, but it's what comes from
inside.
And I was like, well, I got noneof that, so we're done
Brad (12:22):
Well, and
Nannette (12:23):
boobs.
Christine (12:24):
Boobs.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yeah.
Nannette (12:25):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and I found that out withthe guys that I was dating, um,
and, and all I wanted was tolaugh.
I, I was doing their, theirrunning thing.
I was just keeping busy.
So I would date people just togo on dates, but I mean, I
screened them.
They knew that I wasn't going tosleep with them.
I put that out up front, like,and I'm looking for my best
(12:47):
friend.
The end, because that's what Ihad just lost.
So it was like, this is what Iwant.
And most of the guys were like,yeah, no, I just want to sleep
with you.
And I'm like, yeah, we're notdoing that.
And I can't even tell you howmany of those came through.
And then other ones were like,Oh no, it's good.
And then I actually get in aroom with them and then they,
Try to attack me.
And so I decided that I wasgoing to start just meeting at
(13:09):
coffee shops and I would show upearly and buy my own coffee.
So I didn't owe them shit andthen they would show up and if
they couldn't carry on aconversation and energy wasn't
there, I would just be like,yeah, peace out.
I even dated, went on one datewith somebody that, um, put a
younger picture of himself up.
Like in his forties, he was veryhandsome, but I had a 70 year
(13:30):
old that showed up to look likeSanta in a grandma sweatshirt.
It was so embarrassing and I washot.
I was so hot and he like, andyeah, it was so embarrassing.
Brad (13:41):
He totally catfished you.
Nannette (13:42):
He catfished me and, and even the person at the
Chipotle saw me sitting with himbeing very, cause I'm, I'm a
kind person.
And at this point.
I'm kind of it.
I don't know how to use it as apower.
I kind of let people walk allover me a
Christine (13:56):
Nice.
Nannette (13:57):
Yeah, it wasn't a power yet.
Christine (14:00):
Yeah.
Nannette (14:01):
Um, I was learning, but even, even the guy that
brought me my food, he goes, areyou okay?
do you want me to sit here withDo you need to go to your car?
I'm like, no, I think I'm okay.
Ended up like we ended up justbeing friends and just kind of
went our way.
And I'm like, you do not looklike your picture, like not
cool.
You're a nice person, but don'tdo shit like that to people.
(14:21):
That's not cool.
Type of thing that I had otherpeople like that Justin guy,
that Justin guy,
Brad (14:28):
like,
Nannette (14:28):
Swinger City, like, and, and I was like, I was like,
seriously swing swingers.
There are swingers.
I thought that was like a 1960sthing.
Like I, I'm so naive and soinnocent, like literally so in
the Mormon box.
And so like,
Christine (14:44):
Yeah.
like, I
Nannette (14:45):
no idea it was a thing.
Yeah.
Completely taken aback.
And then I just laughed and I'mlike.
Ew.
No.
Ew.
Like I just can't even wrap myhead around that.
So had people like that.
And then I actually datedsomeone that was 36 of my second
kid down.
Same age as my second kid down.
He was so fun.
(15:05):
He made me laugh.
We went on horseback rides.
Um, but the problem was, isthat.
He had little tiny kids and hehad three six year olds that
were still on pull ups and I waslike, I love them and you're
awesome and I'm having so muchfun, but I'm done raising kids.
So I had to break that off and Imean, he'd even introduced me to
(15:25):
his parents.
It was, yeah, awkward, but Ilearned a lot about myself.
Sorry.
I learned a lot about myselfduring all of that because I
started to make my list with theuniverse and I was like, okay,
number one.
They have to be my best friend.
Number two, they have to make melaugh.
Number three, they have tochallenge my mind because most,
(15:47):
and I dated guys my age and theywere, they're like, you're
exhausting.
I'm like, and you're
Christine (15:52):
Uh, yeah.
I was just gonna say boring.
Nannette (15:54):
yeah.
And so I was like, I want to gohave adventures.
I want to see the world.
Like, All I've done is raisedkids like, and, and don't get me
wrong, my kids are awesome andthey have been my greatest work,
but I needed to find me and Ineeded to explore and find out
what this girl's like becauseI've never had the chance, you
(16:14):
know?
And, um, yeah, so they weren'tfor me.
So when this came along, so I,I'm seven years older than him,
then Brad and I'm a cougar.
Yeah.
But he literally.
Could keep up with me in everyway, shape, and form.
Like, and then the numbersdidn't matter anymore, you know?
So it was like, and then hebecame my best friend, like very
(16:36):
quick.
It was like, our souls knew eachother.
And strangely enough, we livedin the same city for all of
these years and never ran intoeach other.
We went to the same grocerystores, same schools, all the
Brad (16:50):
Well, there was one time that we could put together that
we had actually seen each otherand that was at a SWAT training
and at the end of it, they hadthis big Dutch oven barbecue and
Nan had brought food and washelping serve because it was a
Utah County SWAT thing and Coreywas part of Utah County SWAT,
but I remember seeing her atthat SWAT dinner.
Nannette (17:13):
And I remember seeing him.
And what's funny is I asked thepeople that I was with.
I was like, dang, who is that?
Cause he's just yummy.
Like his energy, his energy isjust yummy.
And those big lips.
And
Christine (17:26):
I was like,
Nannette (17:26):
dang, I'm not dead.
Like I can see a good lookingman and be like, I mean, I
completely devoted to Corey, butGod, like, ouch, like, you know
what I mean?
Like Lenny in school, you get,ah,
Christine (17:38):
So, that's
Nannette (17:39):
that's how I felt.
But it was just, oh, that Z andyou know, he, he's just on, he's
with the state and trains a dog,like blah, blah,
Brad (17:48):
Yeah, he's a trooper.
Nannette (17:49):
a
Brad (17:49):
don't want it.
Nannette (17:50):
Yeah.
But he did the same thing.
He was like, who's that?
And they were like, oh, that'sride's wife.
And he's like,
Brad (17:55):
I'm like, who's the blonde with the big boobs?
Christine (17:58):
Of course, I know that's what you said.
Nannette (18:00):
it is.
Christine (18:01):
what he said.
Nannette (18:02):
boobs.
Christine (18:03):
Cause we both appreciate nice boobs.
So
Brad (18:06):
that
Christine (18:07):
that's why we're friends.
Brad (18:09):
you know, boobs are boobs.
Nannette (18:13):
It's so fun when he's on a conference call and I flash
him,
Brad (18:16):
Oh my gosh, it's
Nannette (18:16):
he can't even keep a straight face,
Christine (18:19):
That's awesome.
Nannette (18:21):
but there was even chemistry just then.
And we were with differentspouses, but to be in the same
little town like that and neverrun into each other ever again.
I think it was the universe'sway of being like, you don't
want to hurt people.
This needs to come in the righttiming.
So at my husband's funeral, Ididn't know this until after we
were together.
He has a video of me walkingbehind the casket and I, he was
(18:46):
literally less than 75 feet awayfrom me
Brad (18:49):
he was literally less than 75 feet away from me.
Well, okay, but
Nannette (18:58):
Well, okay, but there's like 40, 000 people at
this funeral, right?
So it's the McKay event centerand we're down on the floor and
the caskets right there.
And Brad is literally off to theside videotaping that.
It's almost like he's been thisguardian this whole time, just
at a distance, you know?
And um, I, I saw it and I just,I cried.
(19:18):
I was like, you.
We're right there when my worldwas shattered.
You were right there.
Christine (19:24):
That's so cool.
I love your story.
I think it's great.
Brad (19:27):
we've been together ever since.
Nannette (19:28):
well, sort of April.
He asked me on our first date,best date
Christine (19:33):
Finally.
Nannette (19:34):
finally.
Yeah, it was two days before mybirthday.
And we went to the Tulipfestival in Thanksgiving point
and road segways.
I even got acrobatic with the
Brad (19:43):
Yeah, segways are not made to jump, just so you know that.
They're supposed to keep thewheels on the
Christine (19:48):
from Nan.
Thanks for the warning.
Because I don't dare get on one.
Because I'm so clumsy.
Hey, Tinder Tanner doesn't existanymore.
Thanks.
is
Nannette (20:00):
She is wearing heels.
Christine (20:02):
heels.
Nannette (20:02):
that.
Brad (20:04):
I'm sorry I went there.
Christine (20:05):
not surprised.
I am Nor am I upset.
Now I'm just going to be like,Brad, it's up to you to find
your clone for me.
Thanks.
No pressure.
Brad (20:17):
If if any of you guys out there are single, attractive,
and amazing, um, Christine is
Nannette (20:22):
You have to know the difference between their, their,
and their, and your, your, andyour, and actually be funny.
Christine (20:27):
be funny,
Nannette (20:28):
And be sexy too.
Christine (20:29):
And pick up on my sarcasm.
Brad (20:31):
Yeah, sarcasm is important.
Nannette (20:33):
yeah.
Christine (20:33):
And have, I'm not, I'll be nice.
Nannette (20:36):
Well, and have done your work.
Okay.
Christine (20:38):
Yes,
Nannette (20:39):
Two feet are really important.
I'm just gonna say it for you.
Christine (20:42):
for you.
Oh, you know.
Nannette (20:43):
need a stable foundation.
Christine (20:45):
need a stable foundation.
I wouldn't joke about it if hewouldn't laugh as well, so.
You're welcome.
I'm not being entirely anasshole because he would think
it's funny too.
Brad (20:54):
You didn't even have to explain it that far.
Christine (21:00):
that's what I am seeking.
I actually had a psychic oncetell me that, um, and so far
she, everything on the timelinethat she told me, this was when
I first started my healingjourney.
She gave me a reading of like mywhole life.
And told me the house I wasgoing to buy all of this.
And she said, um, your guy,you're going to meet him and
(21:25):
he's everything on your list,which I didn't tell her I had a
list.
I have a list too, my phone.
And she said, uh, and has donehis work.
And at that time I was like,done his
Brad (21:35):
you're like, what
Nannette (21:36):
I just got full body chills.
I kid you not.
Christine (21:39):
she was, I was like done his work.
I hadn't even fucking done mywork.
Like what the hell, you know, Ididn't really understand what
she meant at that time because Imeant, cause I, I hadn't, I was
just barely starting my journeywhen I talked to her.
So
Brad (21:55):
cool.
Christine (21:56):
she told me I would be speaking to the world and
this was before my podcast.
Nannette (22:01):
That's so
Christine (22:02):
get on it.
find him.
Brad (22:05):
with
Christine (22:09):
Thank you.
You, you are actually very muchappreciated.
Thank you everyone for listeningin and joining us for this
second part of the collaborationbetween the Mormon to medium
podcast and the ship behind theshow podcast.
Make sure to jump in next weekand listen to episode 95 to
learn all about Christine'sfavorite Book of Mormon
(22:31):
character.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Anyway, we'll see you next time.
Until then, we'll see you on theother side of the veil.
Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll
talk about spirituality, theparanormal religion, and my
journey going from Mormon tomedium.
I'm Nanette Wride.
Thanks for listening.
Now let's go have some fun.
Brad (00:21):
Hello, everybody.
Welcome to the show.
This is the second part of agreat conversation Collaboration
between the Mormon to mediumpodcast and the ship behind the
show podcast with ChristineTanner We Are so grateful that
you joined us, but if youhaven't listened to episode 93,
you might want to go back, catchyourself up on the conversation,
(00:43):
then sit back and enjoy.
Christine (00:45):
And I was the relationship girl too.
So it was like I would meet aguy and just like so codependent
and I would jump into arelationship three to six months
later.
I'm in another one and I justkept doing that.
And yeah, I was like
Nannette (00:57):
That's exhausting.
Christine (00:59):
Yeah, it was.
It was, but I never took thetime to like sit with myself.
It was just go, go, go likedate.
And then I was
Nannette (01:08):
So you didn't know yourself well enough to know
what you wanted, so you werejust, you were just keeping
busy.
Christine (01:15):
Yep, I was just, I call it putting a band aid on
it, right?
The dating and just busy all thetime.
I even, I would work Saturdaysand Sundays.
I would go into work alone andwatch football just to occupy my
mind.
Nannette (01:30):
Wow.
Christine (01:31):
it was, I just never stopped.
And, And as you know, like I wasgoing through a ton, you know,
still going through divorcestuff.
Like I was a shit show.
I was seriously just a mess.
Nannette (01:43):
But how many people do that when they don't want to sit
in their shit and they don'twant to feel it?
So they just go a thousand milesan hour all the time.
So it's, you know, it's adiversion from having to have to
do their own work.
So many people walk around doingthat all the time.
Christine (01:59):
And that's why I started a show, but let's go
back to you guys.
Brad (02:03):
back
Christine (02:04):
So speaking of when we first met and stuff, first of
all, Brad came in and he to workand it was like, What cartoon
character is that on LooneyTunes?
That like, was it the skunk withthe hearts And the eyes?
That's, I swear, that's what itwas like.
And he was just Twitter pated.
And you guys have the cuteststory of like, where you came
(02:29):
from and how you evolvedtogether with two different
traumatic experiences.
Like divorce and being widowedand you guys have the most
amazing Marriage and friendship.
I'm so jealous of you guys
Nannette (02:48):
be jealous.
Christine (02:49):
but i'm jealous You
Brad (02:51):
You know, I think the key that you just hit on is
friendship because we becamefriends far before anything else
happened.
And I think that was the mostimportant step that we took.
But yeah, you're right.
Um, Nan definitely stalked mefor a while.
Nannette (03:05):
is hot though, Okay.
Him.
Christine (03:09):
you don't take hints, Brad.
Nannette (03:12):
oblivious,
Christine (03:13):
Apparently making
Nannette (03:14):
oblivious.
So my husband was murdered inJanuary of 2014 and all of the
pomp and circumstance and all ofthe public, everything
happening, I felt like I was ona really fast merry go round
that just never stopped.
I could never get off of it.
And so many people were justlike biting at me and wanting
(03:34):
more information or more a pieceof action or whatever.
So he waited until.
August, and then he reached outto me on messenger and he is, he
said, I just want to give you mycondolences and give you some of
my memories of Corey.
I used to work with him andtrain dogs with him and
literally he gave me literalmemories that were tangible and
(03:56):
I just sat there and sobbedbecause I had heard so many
times, I'm so sorry for yourloss.
You know, and it's like, thatdoesn't mean anything.
Don't tell me that I know youfeel bad, but tell me you feel
bad and just hug me.
But don't say, I feel so sorryfor your loss and walk away
because it's like, okay, thanks.
I think like, I don't even knowthat leaves me empty, but
(04:19):
tangible memories were like,they were like a balm for my
soul, you know?
And, so.
I looked him up on Facebookbecause I didn't know anything
about him.
I was like, Oh, he's so handsomeand he's bald.
And I had this, I've always hadthis fantasy about a bald guy.
So my husband who was killedfull head of hair, like you're
(04:39):
looking GQ hair and
Brad (04:41):
Oh, Cory had great hair.
Nannette (04:42):
He had great hair, pretty boy, like literally.
And he, he was like youthful allthe time.
It made me sick.
Like just never would age, but Ialways wanted a guy that was
bigger than me, but I never saidit.
Never said it.
I always wanted a bald guy.
Yeah.
I always wanted a guy that wasbigger energy.
And Corey was more blend intothe wall.
Don't pay attention to me typeof person.
(05:05):
He was my exact same height.
Our hands were the same size.
Our feet were the same size,like literally.
And like, I would tease himbecause he tried to pick me up
and his legs would buckle.
So like, it's like, no, I wantedsomebody that could Move me
around and like, make me feellike I was skinny cause I
probably wasn't like whatever.
But, um, so I'm looking at thesepictures of him and, and he is
(05:25):
with his kids and like he lookslike a really good dad and like
whatever.
And so I just kind of would saystuff on his Facebook every once
in a while.
And so that was in August.
So
Brad (05:34):
I I did.
Nannette (05:36):
I did just to see what he looked like and what he was
like, you know,
Christine (05:39):
we all do it.
Nannette (05:40):
But he was the only person, literally the only
person that gave me memories.
And so in October he had put apost up that said even Hitler
had a girlfriend.
I was like, Ooh, this means hedoesn't have a girlfriend.
Now we have to back up in mystory a little bit because
people will think, Oh, she's awidow.
Her husband was murdered inJanuary.
Now October she wants to date.
(06:00):
I had a gift from Corey.
And a couple of days before hewas killed, um, he was pacing in
our bedroom and he was sobbing.
Like his Royal blue eyes werejust full of tears and he was
just sobbing and he pulled hisbaby fine hair and pulled it out
and I'm like, what is wrong?
And he said, Nan, something isso wrong right here.
(06:20):
And he touched his heart and I'mlike, what do you mean?
Is it money?
Is it the kids?
Like what's wrong?
And he sat on the end of the bedand just stopped for him and he
looked up at me and he says, Ijust need to spend time with you
I was like, Okay, awesome.
Neither one of us have to go to,this is Monday.
Neither one of us have to go towork until Thursday.
And so let's spend timetogether.
(06:41):
This will be awesome.
I'll date you like awesome.
We'll spend this time together.
But he kept crying and he keptsobbing and he came over to me
and he grabbed hold of myshoulders and he said, Nan, when
I die.
I need you to promise me thatyou will fall in love and you'll
move forward.
You don't do well alone.
And I was like, fuck you.
You are not doing this shitright now.
(07:03):
Like back it up.
Like it was the maddest I'veever been with him in 18 years
of marriage.
It was like, I, because I'd hadthree dreams, he would be shot
and killed.
So I, and we had talked about itand he literally is nine months
from retirement.
So it was like, no, you were notdoing this right now.
This is not, but he, and heshook me.
It's like, Shaken baby syndromehere, shook me.
(07:24):
He said, Nan, promise me, as hehas these tears just streaming
down his face, I said, okay,fine.
Can we just stop talking aboutthis?
Brad (07:32):
But, but he said when, not
Nannette (07:34):
No.
Yeah.
He said when I die, not if hesaid when.
And so I think he had the headsup on Monday and on Thursday is
when he was murdered.
So, um, it was such a gift, butsuch a hard time when it
happened.
So that is why I moved ahead.
Like I did, because it was like.
Yeah, I'm not doing good bymyself here.
(07:55):
And I'm literally drowning and Idon't want to be in this space.
I need someone where I can feelsafe again because my safe was
murdered that day.
And my world is shattered.
And so that's why I started totalk to him.
And I was like, he felt safe.
He felt kind.
He felt like he was a goodperson.
so I gotten hold of him onmessenger when he had posted
(08:17):
that.
And I'm like, so
Brad (08:19):
but you had been dating other guys.
Nannette (08:21):
not very many.
No, not before that.
No, I started dating reallyheavy from October to April.
Really heavy between therebecause I was just like, fuck
it.
He's not listening to me.
So I'll just go do something
Christine (08:34):
not paying it.
He's not picking up when I'mputting
Nannette (08:36):
No, I was, I was legit like, so you don't have a
girlfriend.
No, I don't have a girlfriend.
I'm like, so what kind of girlsare you into?
And he goes, well, I've neverdated a blonde, so probably not
a blonde.
I was like, okay.
Okay.
So, and I'm like, so what kindof personality?
He goes, well, I want somebodythat's really happy, you know,
that, that likes to adventure.
He goes, and they, they have tohave, use proper grammar.
(08:58):
They have to know the differencebetween their, they're, and
there, and your, you're, andyore, and like all the things.
I'm like me, me, me, me thewhole time.
And
Christine (09:05):
pick me.
Nannette (09:06):
nothing over here, like not picking it up.
So he's telling me all aboutwhat he wants and I'm like,
check in all the boxes.
Like, I mean.
It's right here, right here.
You should date me.
And so we get done with theconversation.
I'm like, I know exactly who youshould date.
And he goes, really?
Who?
Well, that was the last time wetalked until the following
April.
Brad (09:24):
talked until the following April.
I
Nannette (09:26):
Oblivious.
Believe me.
Brad (09:27):
Oblivious.
Is that an appropriate
Christine (09:29):
Really, who?
Brad (09:30):
Yeah, who?
Wouldn't it be presumptive
Christine (09:33):
Who's the blonde here?
Brad (09:34):
if I was,
Christine (09:36):
I dunno.
Brad (09:37):
I was like, Oh yeah, you're totally into me.
Apparently I'm
Christine (09:40):
true.
I
Brad (09:40):
to date you.
Right?
That would be
Nannette (09:43):
if you were, if you were suave, you would be like,
so do you check any of thoseboxes?
Brad (09:49):
But I'm not, but I'm not Rico Suave.
Nannette (09:51):
who do you think I should date, man?
Christine (09:54):
Oh yeah, yeah.
I would've asked, oh yeah, tellme more.
Brad (09:57):
Okay.
Nannette (09:58):
But no, it, it literally like conversation
ended right there.
I didn't talk to him again.
I watched him and I, I saw thathe like traveled and at one
point he had to travel and go toa laundromat cause he got stuck
traveling and had to rewash hisclothes.
I'm like, Oh yeah, I don't wantto date anybody that travels
like that.
That's, that's not for me.
Brad (10:16):
That was a horrible Chicago trip.
Christine (10:18):
Yeah.
You traveled a lot.
Nannette (10:19):
Yeah.
Brad (10:20):
still do.
Nannette (10:21):
He still does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But in the meantime, I datedguys and I, by the way, I'd
never dated before ever.
So I got knocked up at 16 first,first experience and it was not
a good one.
I didn't even know what sex was.
Okay.
So knocked up at 16, married for10 years, super abusive, um, got
(10:42):
divorced, um, went to myfriend's house with, and I was
hanging out with her and herboyfriend.
We went to a bar and, where Imet another guy.
Married him like three monthslater.
So only saw him.
So I never really dated.
Christine (10:57):
Yeah,
Nannette (10:57):
He used to beat the shit out.
He, he drank a 12 pack of beerevery night and he chewed and
smoked and he would pull my kidsout of bed at night when they
were sleeping, beat the shit outof them.
And he would lock me in roomsand tell me what I could wear,
what I could say, like all thethings.
So that lasted three years causeI needed to punish myself.
That was my, I hate God stage.
that I went through.
(11:17):
And then, then I went, therewas, there's a radio station
that was doing like, um,calendars, you know, and so that
all these girls, trying out forall these calendars and stuff.
And I ended up being one of thecalendar pinups.
Girls.
And, very,
Brad (11:32):
month were you?
Nannette (11:33):
I was a June and I was the cover.
I was hot.
anyways, anyways, I had somereally cool bathing suits.
I think that's why.
But anyway,
Christine (11:41):
I want to see these.
Nannette (11:43):
okay.
It's a long time ago and so manyNans ago, but.
Brad (11:47):
I honestly, I think Nan is way more attractive now than she
was then because there is a verydifferent confidence vibe.
You can, you can feel the lackof confidence in her photos from
that calendar versus theconfident woman you see before
you now.
Very different.
Christine (12:05):
is sexy.
Brad (12:07):
is very
Nannette (12:07):
That is what he told me when we were dating.
He said, you know, the sexiestthing about a woman is her
confidence.
It doesn't matter what she lookslike, but it's what comes from
inside.
And I was like, well, I got noneof that, so we're done
Brad (12:22):
Well, and
Nannette (12:23):
boobs.
Christine (12:24):
Boobs.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yeah.
Nannette (12:25):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and I found that out withthe guys that I was dating, um,
and, and all I wanted was tolaugh.
I, I was doing their, theirrunning thing.
I was just keeping busy.
So I would date people just togo on dates, but I mean, I
screened them.
They knew that I wasn't going tosleep with them.
I put that out up front, like,and I'm looking for my best
(12:47):
friend.
The end, because that's what Ihad just lost.
So it was like, this is what Iwant.
And most of the guys were like,yeah, no, I just want to sleep
with you.
And I'm like, yeah, we're notdoing that.
And I can't even tell you howmany of those came through.
And then other ones were like,Oh no, it's good.
And then I actually get in aroom with them and then they,
Try to attack me.
And so I decided that I wasgoing to start just meeting at
(13:09):
coffee shops and I would show upearly and buy my own coffee.
So I didn't owe them shit andthen they would show up and if
they couldn't carry on aconversation and energy wasn't
there, I would just be like,yeah, peace out.
I even dated, went on one datewith somebody that, um, put a
younger picture of himself up.
Like in his forties, he was veryhandsome, but I had a 70 year
(13:30):
old that showed up to look likeSanta in a grandma sweatshirt.
It was so embarrassing and I washot.
I was so hot and he like, andyeah, it was so embarrassing.
Brad (13:41):
He totally catfished you.
Nannette (13:42):
He catfished me and, and even the person at the
Chipotle saw me sitting with himbeing very, cause I'm, I'm a
kind person.
And at this point.
I'm kind of it.
I don't know how to use it as apower.
I kind of let people walk allover me a
Christine (13:56):
Nice.
Nannette (13:57):
Yeah, it wasn't a power yet.
Christine (14:00):
Yeah.
Nannette (14:01):
Um, I was learning, but even, even the guy that
brought me my food, he goes, areyou okay?
do you want me to sit here withDo you need to go to your car?
I'm like, no, I think I'm okay.
Ended up like we ended up justbeing friends and just kind of
went our way.
And I'm like, you do not looklike your picture, like not
cool.
You're a nice person, but don'tdo shit like that to people.
(14:21):
That's not cool.
Type of thing that I had otherpeople like that Justin guy,
that Justin guy,
Brad (14:28):
like,
Nannette (14:28):
Swinger City, like, and, and I was like, I was like,
seriously swing swingers.
There are swingers.
I thought that was like a 1960sthing.
Like I, I'm so naive and soinnocent, like literally so in
the Mormon box.
And so like,
Christine (14:44):
Yeah.
like, I
Nannette (14:45):
no idea it was a thing.
Yeah.
Completely taken aback.
And then I just laughed and I'mlike.
Ew.
No.
Ew.
Like I just can't even wrap myhead around that.
So had people like that.
And then I actually datedsomeone that was 36 of my second
kid down.
Same age as my second kid down.
He was so fun.
(15:05):
He made me laugh.
We went on horseback rides.
Um, but the problem was, isthat.
He had little tiny kids and hehad three six year olds that
were still on pull ups and I waslike, I love them and you're
awesome and I'm having so muchfun, but I'm done raising kids.
So I had to break that off and Imean, he'd even introduced me to
(15:25):
his parents.
It was, yeah, awkward, but Ilearned a lot about myself.
Sorry.
I learned a lot about myselfduring all of that because I
started to make my list with theuniverse and I was like, okay,
number one.
They have to be my best friend.
Number two, they have to make melaugh.
Number three, they have tochallenge my mind because most,
(15:47):
and I dated guys my age and theywere, they're like, you're
exhausting.
I'm like, and you're
Christine (15:52):
Uh, yeah.
I was just gonna say boring.
Nannette (15:54):
yeah.
And so I was like, I want to gohave adventures.
I want to see the world.
Like, All I've done is raisedkids like, and, and don't get me
wrong, my kids are awesome andthey have been my greatest work,
but I needed to find me and Ineeded to explore and find out
what this girl's like becauseI've never had the chance, you
(16:14):
know?
And, um, yeah, so they weren'tfor me.
So when this came along, so I,I'm seven years older than him,
then Brad and I'm a cougar.
Yeah.
But he literally.
Could keep up with me in everyway, shape, and form.
Like, and then the numbersdidn't matter anymore, you know?
So it was like, and then hebecame my best friend, like very
(16:36):
quick.
It was like, our souls knew eachother.
And strangely enough, we livedin the same city for all of
these years and never ran intoeach other.
We went to the same grocerystores, same schools, all the
Brad (16:50):
Well, there was one time that we could put together that
we had actually seen each otherand that was at a SWAT training
and at the end of it, they hadthis big Dutch oven barbecue and
Nan had brought food and washelping serve because it was a
Utah County SWAT thing and Coreywas part of Utah County SWAT,
but I remember seeing her atthat SWAT dinner.
Nannette (17:13):
And I remember seeing him.
And what's funny is I asked thepeople that I was with.
I was like, dang, who is that?
Cause he's just yummy.
Like his energy, his energy isjust yummy.
And those big lips.
And
Christine (17:26):
I was like,
Nannette (17:26):
dang, I'm not dead.
Like I can see a good lookingman and be like, I mean, I
completely devoted to Corey, butGod, like, ouch, like, you know
what I mean?
Like Lenny in school, you get,ah,
Christine (17:38):
So, that's
Nannette (17:39):
that's how I felt.
But it was just, oh, that Z andyou know, he, he's just on, he's
with the state and trains a dog,like blah, blah,
Brad (17:48):
Yeah, he's a trooper.
Nannette (17:49):
a
Brad (17:49):
don't want it.
Nannette (17:50):
Yeah.
But he did the same thing.
He was like, who's that?
And they were like, oh, that'sride's wife.
And he's like,
Brad (17:55):
I'm like, who's the blonde with the big boobs?
Christine (17:58):
Of course, I know that's what you said.
Nannette (18:00):
it is.
Christine (18:01):
what he said.
Nannette (18:02):
boobs.
Christine (18:03):
Cause we both appreciate nice boobs.
So
Brad (18:06):
that
Christine (18:07):
that's why we're friends.
Brad (18:09):
you know, boobs are boobs.
Nannette (18:13):
It's so fun when he's on a conference call and I flash
him,
Brad (18:16):
Oh my gosh, it's
Nannette (18:16):
he can't even keep a straight face,
Christine (18:19):
That's awesome.
Nannette (18:21):
but there was even chemistry just then.
And we were with differentspouses, but to be in the same
little town like that and neverrun into each other ever again.
I think it was the universe'sway of being like, you don't
want to hurt people.
This needs to come in the righttiming.
So at my husband's funeral, Ididn't know this until after we
were together.
He has a video of me walkingbehind the casket and I, he was
(18:46):
literally less than 75 feet awayfrom me
Brad (18:49):
he was literally less than 75 feet away from me.
Well, okay, but
Nannette (18:58):
Well, okay, but there's like 40, 000 people at
this funeral, right?
So it's the McKay event centerand we're down on the floor and
the caskets right there.
And Brad is literally off to theside videotaping that.
It's almost like he's been thisguardian this whole time, just
at a distance, you know?
And um, I, I saw it and I just,I cried.
(19:18):
I was like, you.
We're right there when my worldwas shattered.
You were right there.
Christine (19:24):
That's so cool.
I love your story.
I think it's great.
Brad (19:27):
we've been together ever since.
Nannette (19:28):
well, sort of April.
He asked me on our first date,best date
Christine (19:33):
Finally.
Nannette (19:34):
finally.
Yeah, it was two days before mybirthday.
And we went to the Tulipfestival in Thanksgiving point
and road segways.
I even got acrobatic with the
Brad (19:43):
Yeah, segways are not made to jump, just so you know that.
They're supposed to keep thewheels on the
Christine (19:48):
from Nan.
Thanks for the warning.
Because I don't dare get on one.
Because I'm so clumsy.
Hey, Tinder Tanner doesn't existanymore.
Thanks.
is
Nannette (20:00):
She is wearing heels.
Christine (20:02):
heels.
Nannette (20:02):
that.
Brad (20:04):
I'm sorry I went there.
Christine (20:05):
not surprised.
I am Nor am I upset.
Now I'm just going to be like,Brad, it's up to you to find
your clone for me.
Thanks.
No pressure.
Brad (20:17):
If if any of you guys out there are single, attractive,
and amazing, um, Christine is
Nannette (20:22):
You have to know the difference between their, their,
and their, and your, your, andyour, and actually be funny.
Christine (20:27):
be funny,
Nannette (20:28):
And be sexy too.
Christine (20:29):
And pick up on my sarcasm.
Brad (20:31):
Yeah, sarcasm is important.
Nannette (20:33):
yeah.
Christine (20:33):
And have, I'm not, I'll be nice.
Nannette (20:36):
Well, and have done your work.
Okay.
Christine (20:38):
Yes,
Nannette (20:39):
Two feet are really important.
I'm just gonna say it for you.
Christine (20:42):
for you.
Oh, you know.
Nannette (20:43):
need a stable foundation.
Christine (20:45):
need a stable foundation.
I wouldn't joke about it if hewouldn't laugh as well, so.
You're welcome.
I'm not being entirely anasshole because he would think
it's funny too.
Brad (20:54):
You didn't even have to explain it that far.
Christine (21:00):
that's what I am seeking.
I actually had a psychic oncetell me that, um, and so far
she, everything on the timelinethat she told me, this was when
I first started my healingjourney.
She gave me a reading of like mywhole life.
And told me the house I wasgoing to buy all of this.
And she said, um, your guy,you're going to meet him and
(21:25):
he's everything on your list,which I didn't tell her I had a
list.
I have a list too, my phone.
And she said, uh, and has donehis work.
And at that time I was like,done his
Brad (21:35):
you're like, what
Nannette (21:36):
I just got full body chills.
I kid you not.
Christine (21:39):
she was, I was like done his work.
I hadn't even fucking done mywork.
Like what the hell, you know, Ididn't really understand what
she meant at that time because Imeant, cause I, I hadn't, I was
just barely starting my journeywhen I talked to her.
So
Brad (21:55):
cool.
Christine (21:56):
she told me I would be speaking to the world and
this was before my podcast.
Nannette (22:01):
That's so
Christine (22:02):
get on it.
find him.
Brad (22:05):
with
Christine (22:09):
Thank you.
You, you are actually very muchappreciated.
Thank you everyone for listeningin and joining us for this
second part of the collaborationbetween the Mormon to medium
podcast and the ship behind theshow podcast.
Make sure to jump in next weekand listen to episode 95 to
learn all about Christine'sfavorite Book of Mormon
(22:31):
character.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Anyway, we'll see you next time.
Until then, we'll see you on theother side of the veil.
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