January 3, 2025 • 28 mins
In this episode, we discuss holiday experiences and unexpected visits from Mormon Missionaries! We also talk about the deeper aspects of spiritual growth and personal development. Plus, get insights into Brad's attempt at romance. Tune in for a mix of humor and serious conversation as we start the new year on this spiritual journey!
Did you know you can schedule a reading or energy balance with Nannette? All you have to do is go to this link and arrange your session. She even does remote readings and proxy balances so you're in luck if you don't live in the same area.
Are you ready to add Touch for Health to your first aid kit? Sign up for Nannette's classes and learn how to move energy and talk to the body. Tap on this link for more details.
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Nannette (00:01):
Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll
talk about spirituality, theparanormal religion, and my
journey going from Mormon tomedium.
I'm Nanette Wride.
Thanks for listening.
Now let's go have some fun.
Brad (00:27):
Hello and welcome.
This is the Mormon to Mediumpodcast.
I'm Brad and I'm here withNanette and we are kicking off a
fantastic new year.
Nannette (00:35):
Happy New Year.
Brad (00:37):
new year, everyone.
I hope that you guys had anoutstanding holiday and spent
some wonderful time with friendsand family, were really able to
enjoy the time.
Nannette (00:48):
know here at the Zeeman house, we sure did.
We had some magical times andlots of click moments.
So yeah, we're
Brad (00:55):
exciting.
Um, we sat down and literallyput together puzzles, I think
for a week.
Nannette (00:59):
a living.
You know what, I guess that's
Brad (01:03):
Right.
Uh, you know what?
I guess that's not entirelytrue.
We did have friends over forcocktails one night
Nannette (01:08):
in a
Brad (01:09):
and games.
So, you know, we're not entirelyboring.
It was just, it was nice to
Nannette (01:15):
be quiet and have, you know, good snack food and listen
to our book and do the puzzleand just joke around with each
other.
It was fun.
Brad (01:23):
was fun.
It really was.
It
Nannette (01:25):
Yeah, just quiet.
Brad (01:26):
was the one day though, when we were sitting down
watching TV and the doorbellrang.
Nannette (01:30):
Oh God.
Brad (01:32):
Okay.
Sometimes you get theseunexpected visitors, right?
And sometimes you're like, Oh myI'm so glad to see you.
And other times you're like,
Nannette (01:38):
Why are
Brad (01:39):
are, yeah, why are they here?
This was one of those, wait aminute.
Why are they here?
And okay.
I sound horrible saying thatbecause it's, it's okay.
I don't mind if they come.
I just don't mind.
I just don't want to be preachedto.
Nannette (01:55):
Right, right.
So, in July of 2023, um, Iremoved my name from the records
of the church.
And, um, since then, I get, um,regular missionaries that come
to the
Brad (02:13):
and you probably ought to specify that is the Mormon
church, right?
Not, not the Catholic church,because you say the church.
And different people think ofdifferent things.
Well,
Nannette (02:23):
it is the Mormon to medium podcast.
So the Mormon
Brad (02:26):
the Mormon church.
Fine, that's, that's fair.
God,
Nannette (02:30):
know, right?
Have more coffee, Brad,
Brad (02:32):
logical.
Isn't that
Nannette (02:34):
but, I've had missionaries that have shown up
regularly.
Actually two weeks after I gotmy, my actual resignation, the
official, you know, document thewhole thing, I had missionary
show up.
Two weeks after and they haven'tstopped.
They show up pretty much everymonth.
Brad (02:51):
it's been like every other month.
Nannette (02:53):
I don't know.
No, no, no It hasn't like justlast month you had we had the
boys that showed up and then youtold them
Brad (03:03):
That
Nannette (03:03):
were in a mixed faith marriage While you were making
cocktails and and strangelyenough.
Oh, he explains that his wifeTook her name off the records of
the church, but he's still in.
Brad (03:15):
still in.
Yeah, I'm still in.
It's The
Nannette (03:17):
missionaries this time.
Brad (03:19):
they sent the girls, they're like, alright, let's try
a different approach.
Let's send the sisters overbecause they'll be able to sit
down with this poor sister who'sleft the church and help her
understand how important it is.
Nannette (03:30):
And, and they've been nice kids that they're really,
really nice kids, but theirselves tactics.
Yeah.
They all say the very samething.
Oh, we're here to talk to youabout your neighbors.
I'm like, okay, well, they'reJewish over there.
They're not Mormon.
They're Mormon, but we'll neveranswer their door for you.
These guys are all Democrats, sodon't worry about it.
(03:51):
It's always the same, the sameanswer too.
So I don't, I don't know howthey want to get.
in our door or get pastanything.
But this time, um, I did what Isaid I was going to do and I
gave them a little nugget ofwisdom of my own.
Brad (04:07):
I was a little terrified.
Nannette (04:09):
You were a lot
Brad (04:10):
was like, oh
Nannette (04:10):
He's like quivering behind the door.
Brad (04:13):
I'm like, be nice.
Nannette (04:14):
He's like hitting me like my dog does when she wants
something.
She just paused me and paused meand stares at me.
He's doing that behind the door.
But I mean, part of my bodiesbehind the door.
And he's hitting me like, benice, be nice.
I'm like, I'm not being a nice.
I'm, I'm being nice.
Like shut up.
But like the one sister, um, wasfrom California and we talked
(04:36):
about California for a minute.
Cause I'm a Cali girl.
And the other sister was fromArizona.
And I think I scared the shitout of her.
Um, but.
Brad (04:46):
but well, most of those folks from Arizona, they're,
they're just not ready for this.
Nannette (04:49):
But they, I have family that's in Arizona.
I have clients in Arizona.
Um, I have awesome clients thatare in Arizona.
And,
Brad (04:59):
You, you do actually have some really cool clients and
podcast listeners in Arizona.
So we're really happy andgrateful for you guys.
I'll give, I'll give Arizonashit all day long just because
of the family that's there andthey're not ready for this But I
know there are a lot of openminded people in Arizona
Nannette (05:15):
Oh, totally.
Totally.
Yeah.
So, um, I just gave them littlenuggets of wisdom.
Brad (05:24):
She bore her testimony
Nannette (05:26):
I did not bear a testimony.
I don't have a testimony oftheir church.
Brad (05:30):
It doesn't have to be a testimony of their church it was
still a testimony hundredpercent
Nannette (05:34):
I just told them, you know, do believe in whatever
religion you want to believe in,but you're a soul having a human
experience.
Remember that.
And remember as a soul.
You have a birthright to all ofyour heavenly gifts and, um, I
explained to them, you know,would you send your child on a
trip somewhere without makingsure they could stay in touch
(05:56):
with you and get making surethat they would be completely
successful?
And and the one sister fromCalifornia was like, yeah, I
would make sure that my kid, youknow, had everything that they
needed.
And the other girl's like, I'mnot really sure where you're
going with this type of thing.
But, um,
Brad (06:11):
was thinking, yeah, that's why God gave us the one true
prophet who can communicate withhim.
Nannette (06:17):
yeah, no, she didn't say that.
Brad (06:18):
No, she was thinking it
Nannette (06:19):
She might have, I don't know, but I just explained
that we have our heavenly giftsthat our heavenly father has
given us and that we should usethose gifts in order to stay in
touch with the other side.
And I explained to them thatthere's much more than just one
Holy Ghost, that you have anactual team of spirits through
there for you.
You have spirit guides, angels,ancestors.
(06:42):
And everyone that your Ripplehas touched, is a part of your
team and is there to help you inthis life.
And you should use theirknowledge and, their experience
and, you know, their guidancethroughout your life to make
your life richer.
And, the one sister was like,that.
That totally makes sense.
And the other sister was like,no, I believe in one Holy Ghost.
(07:04):
But the, to the, to Arizona'scredit, she would only been out
for four months.
So she was a newbie.
And so I, I kind of just letthem know, you know, pro tip
here, find out who you are, whoare you without the church?
Who are you standing all byyourself?
Who are you and why are you
Brad (07:23):
Well, and that was really interesting because one of the
comments was, well, yeah, youjust have to grow closer to him.
And Nan said, no, you need tolearn who you are as a person.
Nannette (07:33):
Right.
So kind of my pet peeve, um,about religion is everybody
blames everything either onJesus or Satan.
You know, if, if you're closerto, to Christ, then you're a
better person.
But if you do something wrong,then you're closer to Satan type
of thing.
And, and I think, It makes it sothat you're not taking
(07:54):
responsibility for your ownactions or for your own
spirituality.
but when you're standing in yourown truth and light and you're,
you're standing there, speaking,from your heart and from your
soul is completely differentthan speaking for a church.
And I wanted to get through tothem that look into, you know,
(08:15):
who you are without the church,believe whatever you want to
believe.
I don't believe it becausethat's not been my journey, but,
and that's okay.
And I'm not going to take yourjourney away from you, but.
Add this to your journey and,you know, kind of take a look
at, at who you are because it'sbeautiful and it's why you're
here.
This is our earth is our schooland you should realize that and
(08:38):
not put wrap everything up in areligion that may or may not be
true.
Brad (08:42):
Yeah.
Nannette (08:44):
Yeah.
So the one girl from California,she goes, she goes, okay, wow.
I feel like.
I just got taught, um, a reallygood lesson.
And the other girl was like,yeah.
And I was like, I, I send you inlove and light.
Like just, you know, have agreat time.
I don't know, I don't know thatthey'll ever be back.
I'm pretty sure I
Brad (09:04):
they might not be back, but you got a great picture with
them.
Nannette (09:08):
I did.
And there was no negativitywhatsoever.
Like I'm not trying to rip downtheir religion or take it from
them.
Um, that's their journey.
That's their path.
And I respect that.
And.
They need to respect mine and,um, the church is not part of my
journey anymore.
And by them constantly, youknow, I, I'm, I'm talking to the
guys when they would knock onthe door, they would stay for
(09:29):
six or seven minutes banging onthe goddamn
Brad (09:32):
for six or seven minutes banging on that goddamn
doorbell.
Well, it, it pisses me offbecause my
Nannette (09:39):
it, it pisses me off because my dog is going crazy.
Like, mom, why aren't youanswering the door?
I'm like, I'm not answering thedoor.
It's so stupid.
Cause I want to punch him in theface.
When you don't answer the door,you just go on and leave.
You know what I mean?
Oh my gosh.
It was ridiculous.
But I feel like, I feel like I'mbeing hassled in so many ways
and it's fine.
I'm never going to be mean andI'm never going to want to rip
(10:01):
them down or take their beliefsystem from them.
But they need to be able to knowthat I'm in a different place
too and respect my, my beliefstoo.
And I'm not going to be quietabout what I believe in.
If they're going to knock on mydoor, they're going to hear it.
Brad (10:15):
And I think that's completely fair and look it's
like we've told them if you needto use the bathroom if you need
a drink You need to get out ofthe heat or the cold.
You're welcome here anytime, butwe just don't want to talk
Church with you
Nannette (10:29):
They don't want us to talk church with them.
That's the
Brad (10:32):
but that's the thing too I think the important That these
kids because they're just
Nannette (10:38):
They are
Brad (10:39):
It's important to know that they have support and that
you know They're cared for and Ithink a hundred percent because
if it was my kid I would wantsomebody to be like hey come in
and get a drink come in and youknow get cooled off for a
Nannette (10:53):
Well, absolutely.
And, and you know what?
On this journey, we have paidfor a missionary, in our family
Brad (11:00):
we have paid for missionaries.
Nannette (11:01):
I was out of the church, Brad was out, but we
still paid for a missionarybecause they needed the help and
that was their belief system.
And, and that's okay.
We respect that.
That's the thing we need torespect each other's journeys
and cheer each other on becausewe're all learning.
And, um, if these missionaries.
Need to be on this path to learnawesome, you know, I honor that
(11:24):
but they have to honor me too.
And that's my point like I, ithas to be okay that I'm not
going, you know, it has to beokay that I'm different and, and
they
Brad (11:35):
for sure.
Nannette (11:36):
Yeah.
So if they're going to continueto knock on my door, they're
going to continue to get littlenuggets of love, that I hope
that they take to their heartand they know that I mean no
harm, but I want to help enrichtheir life because there's so
much more than what the churchwill allow them to be.
Brad (11:50):
Next time, we should just have, like, a missionary care
package ready.
With, like, some crystals andtarot cards.
Nannette (11:57):
Oh my gosh.
No.
Brad (12:01):
We could just get the, like, at the Mexican market.
They've got, like, those, thosecheap tarot cards.
We'd just give them a cheaptarot deck.
Why?
Nannette (12:07):
because they would think that they were evil and
then they would just throw themaway.
It would be a waste of money,but, but if we had them come in
and we did a reading on them,that would be different.
I would be open to
Brad (12:17):
would be open to that.
I doubt it.
Especially on a mission, I
Nannette (12:23):
especially on a mission.
I doubt
Brad (12:25):
would be more than
Nannette (12:27):
but I would be more than happy to read'em if they
wanted a reading.
That would be fun.
Brad (12:30):
reading.
That would be fun.
Nannette (12:41):
Yeah, well, I did with the sister missionaries, I did
let them know, that I saw stuffwith my human eyes, that I saw
spirits with my human eyes.
And the one sister, like shetook two steps backwards.
I know I scared her, but, and Ididn't mean to scare
Brad (12:56):
that's a little more normal in California.
Unless you're in Sedona.
Sedona, they know all about that
Nannette (13:00):
not California.
Oh, that's Arizona.
Yeah.
You're talking about
Brad (13:03):
Arizona.
Yeah, the California, it'snormal.
Nannette (13:05):
Well, we're talking Gilbert area where the temple
is.
So yeah, that's like where sheis from.
Brad (13:10):
Yeah.
That's the thick of it.
Nannette (13:14):
It is, you know, though, there's a lot of, LDS
people that are there that aresuper open minded.
There are other ones that arefull of fear and, and are not
open minded.
So everybody's on their journeyand you have to
Brad (13:25):
But speaking of journeys, if anyone out there is looking
to change the direction they'regoing right now, Nan has put out
an amazing opportunity foreveryone to get on their own
path and create their ownjourney through a journey.
Energy balancing for themselves.
She's actually got classes up onthe website and they are live.
(13:50):
And if you want to get into aclass, you can do that for this
coming year.
So it's a great opportunity, tojoin up with Nan and learn about
what she does and be able to doit for yourself and put that in
your own personal first aid kit.
Nannette (14:03):
It is so important, yes, to have in your first aid
kit.
there are pain balances inthere, there's everything from
balancing the stomach toheadaches to all the things, all
the symptoms, the body can healitself.
So to be able to balanceyourself and your kids and your
animals and everything, um, isjust so golden.
Brad (14:22):
to
Nannette (14:23):
Have that in your toolbox.
Yeah, you don't have to go pay adoctor.
For something like that when youcan do it yourself.
Pretty cool.
Brad (14:30):
Yeah, and that's our mid roll advertisement.
Ha, ha, ha.
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Nannette (14:36):
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Brad (14:37):
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Nannette (14:41):
I love it.
Yeah.
It says energy is the name ofmy, my energy.
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So
Brad (14:47):
So I
Nannette (14:49):
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Brad (14:50):
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Nannette (14:55):
That is really cool.
Brad (14:57):
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Yeah.
You can
Nannette (15:01):
Yeah, you can sign up for any of the classes there.
the touch for health classes,one through four are in person.
The other ones are all on zoom.
So.
Anyone throughout the world canget on the Zoom call and learn
different things on how tobalance kids, pets, introduction
to Touch for Health, that kindof thing.
But if you want to actuallylearn hands on Touch for Health,
(15:23):
you can come get a hug from meand spend a couple days with me
and learn how to do it.
Oh, there is a limit of 10students per class.
So make sure that you get Inthere and sign up as soon as you
can.
Brad (15:36):
can.
Awesome.
Are you going to do multiplesessions of that throughout the
year?
Have you decided yet?
Or is it just going to be onesession a year?
So just
Nannette (15:43):
far, I'm just going to see how the one goes and how
taxing it is on me.
But my plan is to have it twicea year.
I'd love to do it again, inOctober.
so towards the end of the year,so
Brad (15:55):
we'll
Nannette (15:56):
though.
I'll, I'll let you know.
Brad (15:58):
Got it.
Cool.
Yeah.
Let me know so we can make surewe get it up.
Nannette (16:03):
Yeah.
I mean, I, after all of myclients and teaching and
everything, I might need somereally good tropical vacations
in October.
So we'll see.
I just saw your eyes get reallybig, Brad.
Brad (16:15):
What did, what do you mean?
Nannette (16:16):
yeah.
Oh my God.
Brad (16:18):
Yeah, you're not subtle at all.
Nannette (16:19):
You can either join me or stay home.
Either way I'm going.
Brad (16:23):
it'll be interesting to see when the next set of
missionaries come.
Nannette (16:25):
So with it being New Year's, I'm just wondering, um,
what are your New Year'sresolutions?
What are your goals for the NewYear?
Do you have any?
Last year, your goal was to givea
Brad (16:35):
It was to give a shit.
I think I did pretty well.
I was very caring and I took myheadphones off more often on the
plane and had some goodconversations with people.
So, yeah, I think I did prettywell.
Nice.
Yeah.
I
Nannette (16:51):
I love that.
I don't even remember what minewas.
Brad (16:54):
Wow.
Nannette (16:54):
We'll probably have to go back and listen to our own
podcast and find out what I,what my goal was, but I always
tried to be better than I wasthe day before.
So
Brad (17:02):
Well, I think you crushed it.
You're way better today than youwere yesterday.
Nannette (17:07):
thanks so much.
The shitty day yesterday.
Brad (17:09):
a miserable person yesterday, but today, oh my God,
you're awesome.
Yeah, so
Nannette (17:17):
So we're trying to quit coffee for a quick minute.
Brad (17:20):
Are we?
Or are you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, you
Nannette (17:23):
haven't had it very much lately, but I'm trying
because we've got to drop.
We've got to drop some LBs inthis house.
Like we like to eat so much and,and we need to drop some pounds.
Brad (17:37):
nothing wrong with that.
Nannette (17:39):
no, that, that's part of my new year's resolution.
I have some LBs to, to, to, Dropand it's not like that.
I'm really really heavy It'sjust I'm heavier than I want to
be and I want to be strong.
I want to feel really strong Ithink that that would be really
good and I have a busy year
Brad (17:57):
to be like, bodybuilding strong again?
No, no,
Nannette (17:59):
no, no, no, no, no, no,
Brad (18:00):
no, no.
If, for those of you who don'tknow, Nan actually did a
bodybuilding competition.
And she took first in twodifferent
Nannette (18:05):
I was the only one in the category.
Brad (18:07):
But she still took first.
You did.
You're such
Nannette (18:14):
such a smart
Brad (18:15):
You took first.
Nannette (18:16):
Oh my gosh.
Brad (18:17):
have to tell everybody it was only you.
Nannette (18:21):
Oh my gosh.
Brad (18:22):
You, you looked great and you had two great big medals
that covered your boobies.
Nannette (18:26):
I did get two giant medals.
They look like
Brad (18:29):
medals.
Yes, they did.
But you look great.
You put in the work and you, youearned it.
You deserve that.
Nannette (18:35):
don't want to be that kind of strong though.
I, I don't, I, I just want mybody to feel strong.
So I want to, You know,cardiovascularly and yeah, and,
and toned.
I want to be strong and tonedand know that I can go hike all
day long and not be exhausted.
You know what I mean?
Brad (18:54):
I mean?
Nannette (18:55):
Oh my gosh, the triggers stop.
You're such as yeah.
So y'all may think that me andBrad have like this perfect
marriage and we pretty much do,but Brad, he warned me when we
were dating that number one,he's oblivious and number two,
he is not romantic.
(19:16):
Check.
Okay, so he, when he is
Brad (19:18):
romantic I am, I am a romance god.
Nannette (19:20):
know, when you are romantic, you have to really put
some thought into it.
And he does, he does.
Okay, let me get, get you clearhere.
But, for our New Year's, Bradwas being super romantic.
And it was like, Oh my gosh, Ithink it was like midnight or
something.
And I always go in and I take ahot bath before I go to bed
(19:43):
because it helps my musclesrelax.
And I just seem to sleep better.
It's always been my routine mywhole life.
And so I've been there.
And then pretty soon Brad comeswalking in and.
He drops, trying to, I'm like,are you getting in here with me?
And he's like, yeah.
And I'm like, okay, cool.
Way to start the new year.
Right.
He gets in and he's like, Oh,you feel so good.
(20:03):
And the water feels so good.
And I'm like, what do I feellike?
And you know what he says?
This is how romantic Brad is.
Back skin.
I'm like,
Brad (20:12):
I did
Nannette (20:12):
I feel like back skin and he's like, yeah, you feel
like back skin.
Brad (20:17):
did not say it like
Nannette (20:18):
Yes you did.
Brad (20:19):
No, I did.
I
Nannette (20:19):
Yes, you did.
Brad (20:20):
my back.
Okay.
Nannette (20:21):
No, you didn't say my back
Brad (20:23):
Yes, I
Nannette (20:24):
no, you feel like back
Brad (20:25):
No, I said my back
Nannette (20:26):
No, you
Brad (20:26):
because here's,
Nannette (20:28):
I'm like, what are you talking about?
Back skin.
And you're like, yeah, you knowhow soft my back is.
I'm like, well, sometimes youget zits on your back and you
have hair at the bottom of yourspine.
I'm like, you think I feel likeskin on your back?
Back?
I'm like what?
Oblivious and not romantic.
I'm just gonna say.
That's how we started our newyear.
Brad (20:47):
new year.
Okay, so, first
Nannette (20:49):
faith
Brad (20:49):
I was touching your skin and you're like, How does that
feel?
And I was like, Well, how do Igive her an example of what her
skin feels like?
I'm like, okay, if she's rubbingmy arm it doesn't feel like that
because my arm is hairy.
And if she's rubbing my chest,my chest doesn't feel like that.
My back though, my back mightfeel smooth and soft like that.
Nannette (21:08):
He's never living
Brad (21:09):
feels like my back skin.
Nannette (21:11):
Yeah, you're never living it down.
Brad (21:12):
I thought it was the perfect example so you could
know what it
Nannette (21:15):
romantic.
Just like when we were,
Brad (21:19):
I was
Nannette (21:19):
we were going on a trip separate from each other,
and I'm like, why don't you makeme a playlist so that it reminds
me of you?
And, you know, because I have, aplaylist of songs that reminds
me of Corey.
And, um, so I was like, youknow, make me a playlist that
reminds me of you.
Oh, no, he, Brad's a rocker.
So he sends me this playlistfull of rock music.
(21:40):
And I'm like,
Brad (21:42):
It was songs
Nannette (21:43):
it was
Brad (21:44):
I love and you didn't just say that remind me of you You
said that you love that mightremind me of you and I'm like,
oh, I'll send you all the songsI love and I thought I did a
great job.
I Crushed that assignment.
I gave you all the songs that Ilove and you scoffed at them
Nannette (21:59):
back skin, Brad, oblivious.
Brad (22:01):
what it felt like so smooth and soft
Nannette (22:04):
Yeah, uh huh.
Epic fail.
Brad (22:08):
So I failed the beginning of the year I've got to make up
for it I may or may not havebeen a little embarrassed, so I,
I thought I
Nannette (22:17):
May or may
Brad (22:18):
not.
I thought I did a great job onexplaining it.
Nannette (22:22):
I think your heart was in the right place.
I think your brain was somewhereelse.
Brad (22:26):
so hard though.
Oh
Nannette (22:31):
He can, he can believe that's what he said and that's
how it came across.
I'm just like looking at himwith disgust.
Like
Brad (22:38):
She's like
Nannette (22:39):
I'm an energy worker.
You're going to tell me I feellike back skin.
Brad (22:42):
Yet she was looking for apparently if a girl asked you
that she's looking for some sortof like you feel like the warm
sun Shining on my face on abeautiful sunrise with the
orange glow behind it But youcan't be literal You can't be
literal.
That's not what they're lookingfor.
(23:03):
Just a word of advice to all youguys who listen and all you
ladies, just let your husbandsknow.
Please don't be literal if I askthis question.
Unless you say it feels like thesoftest silk from China.
I think that probably would havebeen a good answer.
Right?
Yeah.
(23:23):
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Nannette (23:25):
kidding.
Brad (23:27):
Also, don't be romantic when you're impaired.
It doesn't work out like youthink it will.
Nannette (23:31):
your wife.
God, you couldn't stop laughingafter that for like an
Brad (23:37):
It was hilarious.
Nannette (23:39):
was just stunned, like, what?
Brad (23:41):
Okay.
Enough about me.
So hey,
Nannette (23:45):
Jinx, you owe me a Coke.
Brad (23:47):
damn it.
Um, I did want to sharesomething with you that I
thought was funny.
So when we were talking aboutmissionaries before the show, I
actually looked up missionarybecause I was like, Let's see
what comes up.
Well, when you look upmissionary, it's not just like
missionary stuff that comes up.
One of the big things,
Nannette (24:08):
Brad, is this sexual,
Brad (24:11):
course, one of the things that comes up is the missionary
position.
And I learned actually that themissionary position was Deemed
such because that is whatmissionaries said was
appropriate when they would goout and proselytize, but the
reason that came about is
Nannette (24:30):
missionaries that are prose had sex that way.
Brad (24:32):
No, like the, like the people they were teaching, they
would say, Hey, this is the onlyappropriate way.
And this is kind of the thing.
So around 1215, um, 80,obviously, um, A cleric had
decided that there was oneposition that was the least
disagreeable and it wasmissionary.
Yeah.
(24:53):
And the reason was it balanced,you know, the chance of
procreation with a relativelylow eroticism.
But the funny thing is
Nannette (25:02):
the 1200s, they're trying to control
Brad (25:05):
people.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
Nannette (25:07):
yeah.
Is this a
Brad (25:08):
Yeah, this is the catholic church Yep, and so they actually
began handing out penances forpeople who
Nannette (25:16):
punishment?
Brad (25:16):
oh, yeah So if you went into confession, you know,
forgive me father i've sinnedblah blah blah blah It's been 30
days since my last confession.
Um during that 30 days.
I actually had sex while seatedWell, they would, they would
hand out 40 days of penance,which their punishment included
(25:36):
eating only bread and drinkingonly water, as well as
abstaining from sex for acertain amount of time.
Nannette (25:43):
what
Brad (25:44):
bread and water.
So what do you, if the woman wason top three years, three years,
pal, sorry.
Yeah.
Right.
Nannette (25:58):
sex and ejaculation.
Brad (26:01):
Here, here was one oral sex that included ejaculation.
Nannette (26:04):
on our podcast.
Brad (26:07):
I can.
Um, three to 15 years, three to15, depending on the theologian.
So it was kind of like Bishoproulette, you know, Hey, you
drank coffee.
You're good.
Go to the temple.
You drank coffee.
Oh, hell no.
We're excommunicating you.
So it literally, Bishop roulettehas been a thing for all the
ages.
Um, yeah.
(26:27):
Oh, here, the withdrawal method,pulling out.
Nannette (26:31):
Okay, but back in those days, they didn't have,
have contraception.
Brad (26:34):
matter.
It's still two to 10 years.
So you may as well just
Nannette (26:39):
Wow.
The things you look up.
Brad (26:41):
right.
Nannette (26:42):
Okay, you're done.
Brad (26:43):
Oh, but we didn't even get into masturbation.
Nannette (26:46):
it's okay.
It's okay.
Laughter Laughter
Brad (26:52):
This is the funniest thing.
So my friend LD, I was at hishouse one day and, um, His
little brother got a phone calland his mom answered the phone
and said, Hey, you know, Gavin,it's the ward clerk.
He wants to schedule anappointment to meet with the
bishop.
And without even skipping abeat, Gavin, Gavin goes, tell
(27:15):
him, yes, I pay my tithing andno, I don't masturbate.
Oh my God.
It was awesome.
Anyway, sorry.
I got sidetracked, but I thoughtthat was hilarious.
Yes.
That is a lot of controllers.
Oh yeah, yeah, anyway, yeah, itwas pretty crazy.
(27:39):
And, and that's the, uh, thewhole missionary style.
Yep.
Nannette (27:43):
Yeah.
Brad (27:44):
Yeah,
Nannette (27:45):
a whole different missionary than what we were
talking about earlier, but
Brad (27:48):
were talking about earlier, but okay.
Yes, definitely.
And
Nannette (27:52):
my gosh, Brad.
Brad (27:55):
that's how I romance my wife.
Yep.
Thank you though for listeningeveryone to our uh, wild ramble
for the new year and we hopethat you have a fantastic new
year.
Make it your best year yet.
will
Nannette (28:11):
we will see you.
Brad (28:13):
Oh, we're doing that already.
On the other side of the veil.
Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll
talk about spirituality, theparanormal religion, and my
journey going from Mormon tomedium.
I'm Nanette Wride.
Thanks for listening.
Now let's go have some fun.
Brad (00:27):
Hello and welcome.
This is the Mormon to Mediumpodcast.
I'm Brad and I'm here withNanette and we are kicking off a
fantastic new year.
Nannette (00:35):
Happy New Year.
Brad (00:37):
new year, everyone.
I hope that you guys had anoutstanding holiday and spent
some wonderful time with friendsand family, were really able to
enjoy the time.
Nannette (00:48):
know here at the Zeeman house, we sure did.
We had some magical times andlots of click moments.
So yeah, we're
Brad (00:55):
exciting.
Um, we sat down and literallyput together puzzles, I think
for a week.
Nannette (00:59):
a living.
You know what, I guess that's
Brad (01:03):
Right.
Uh, you know what?
I guess that's not entirelytrue.
We did have friends over forcocktails one night
Nannette (01:08):
in a
Brad (01:09):
and games.
So, you know, we're not entirelyboring.
It was just, it was nice to
Nannette (01:15):
be quiet and have, you know, good snack food and listen
to our book and do the puzzleand just joke around with each
other.
It was fun.
Brad (01:23):
was fun.
It really was.
It
Nannette (01:25):
Yeah, just quiet.
Brad (01:26):
was the one day though, when we were sitting down
watching TV and the doorbellrang.
Nannette (01:30):
Oh God.
Brad (01:32):
Okay.
Sometimes you get theseunexpected visitors, right?
And sometimes you're like, Oh myI'm so glad to see you.
And other times you're like,
Nannette (01:38):
Why are
Brad (01:39):
are, yeah, why are they here?
This was one of those, wait aminute.
Why are they here?
And okay.
I sound horrible saying thatbecause it's, it's okay.
I don't mind if they come.
I just don't mind.
I just don't want to be preachedto.
Nannette (01:55):
Right, right.
So, in July of 2023, um, Iremoved my name from the records
of the church.
And, um, since then, I get, um,regular missionaries that come
to the
Brad (02:13):
and you probably ought to specify that is the Mormon
church, right?
Not, not the Catholic church,because you say the church.
And different people think ofdifferent things.
Well,
Nannette (02:23):
it is the Mormon to medium podcast.
So the Mormon
Brad (02:26):
the Mormon church.
Fine, that's, that's fair.
God,
Nannette (02:30):
know, right?
Have more coffee, Brad,
Brad (02:32):
logical.
Isn't that
Nannette (02:34):
but, I've had missionaries that have shown up
regularly.
Actually two weeks after I gotmy, my actual resignation, the
official, you know, document thewhole thing, I had missionary
show up.
Two weeks after and they haven'tstopped.
They show up pretty much everymonth.
Brad (02:51):
it's been like every other month.
Nannette (02:53):
I don't know.
No, no, no It hasn't like justlast month you had we had the
boys that showed up and then youtold them
Brad (03:03):
That
Nannette (03:03):
were in a mixed faith marriage While you were making
cocktails and and strangelyenough.
Oh, he explains that his wifeTook her name off the records of
the church, but he's still in.
Brad (03:15):
still in.
Yeah, I'm still in.
It's The
Nannette (03:17):
missionaries this time.
Brad (03:19):
they sent the girls, they're like, alright, let's try
a different approach.
Let's send the sisters overbecause they'll be able to sit
down with this poor sister who'sleft the church and help her
understand how important it is.
Nannette (03:30):
And, and they've been nice kids that they're really,
really nice kids, but theirselves tactics.
Yeah.
They all say the very samething.
Oh, we're here to talk to youabout your neighbors.
I'm like, okay, well, they'reJewish over there.
They're not Mormon.
They're Mormon, but we'll neveranswer their door for you.
These guys are all Democrats, sodon't worry about it.
(03:51):
It's always the same, the sameanswer too.
So I don't, I don't know howthey want to get.
in our door or get pastanything.
But this time, um, I did what Isaid I was going to do and I
gave them a little nugget ofwisdom of my own.
Brad (04:07):
I was a little terrified.
Nannette (04:09):
You were a lot
Brad (04:10):
was like, oh
Nannette (04:10):
He's like quivering behind the door.
Brad (04:13):
I'm like, be nice.
Nannette (04:14):
He's like hitting me like my dog does when she wants
something.
She just paused me and paused meand stares at me.
He's doing that behind the door.
But I mean, part of my bodiesbehind the door.
And he's hitting me like, benice, be nice.
I'm like, I'm not being a nice.
I'm, I'm being nice.
Like shut up.
But like the one sister, um, wasfrom California and we talked
(04:36):
about California for a minute.
Cause I'm a Cali girl.
And the other sister was fromArizona.
And I think I scared the shitout of her.
Um, but.
Brad (04:46):
but well, most of those folks from Arizona, they're,
they're just not ready for this.
Nannette (04:49):
But they, I have family that's in Arizona.
I have clients in Arizona.
Um, I have awesome clients thatare in Arizona.
And,
Brad (04:59):
You, you do actually have some really cool clients and
podcast listeners in Arizona.
So we're really happy andgrateful for you guys.
I'll give, I'll give Arizonashit all day long just because
of the family that's there andthey're not ready for this But I
know there are a lot of openminded people in Arizona
Nannette (05:15):
Oh, totally.
Totally.
Yeah.
So, um, I just gave them littlenuggets of wisdom.
Brad (05:24):
She bore her testimony
Nannette (05:26):
I did not bear a testimony.
I don't have a testimony oftheir church.
Brad (05:30):
It doesn't have to be a testimony of their church it was
still a testimony hundredpercent
Nannette (05:34):
I just told them, you know, do believe in whatever
religion you want to believe in,but you're a soul having a human
experience.
Remember that.
And remember as a soul.
You have a birthright to all ofyour heavenly gifts and, um, I
explained to them, you know,would you send your child on a
trip somewhere without makingsure they could stay in touch
(05:56):
with you and get making surethat they would be completely
successful?
And and the one sister fromCalifornia was like, yeah, I
would make sure that my kid, youknow, had everything that they
needed.
And the other girl's like, I'mnot really sure where you're
going with this type of thing.
But, um,
Brad (06:11):
was thinking, yeah, that's why God gave us the one true
prophet who can communicate withhim.
Nannette (06:17):
yeah, no, she didn't say that.
Brad (06:18):
No, she was thinking it
Nannette (06:19):
She might have, I don't know, but I just explained
that we have our heavenly giftsthat our heavenly father has
given us and that we should usethose gifts in order to stay in
touch with the other side.
And I explained to them thatthere's much more than just one
Holy Ghost, that you have anactual team of spirits through
there for you.
You have spirit guides, angels,ancestors.
(06:42):
And everyone that your Ripplehas touched, is a part of your
team and is there to help you inthis life.
And you should use theirknowledge and, their experience
and, you know, their guidancethroughout your life to make
your life richer.
And, the one sister was like,that.
That totally makes sense.
And the other sister was like,no, I believe in one Holy Ghost.
(07:04):
But the, to the, to Arizona'scredit, she would only been out
for four months.
So she was a newbie.
And so I, I kind of just letthem know, you know, pro tip
here, find out who you are, whoare you without the church?
Who are you standing all byyourself?
Who are you and why are you
Brad (07:23):
Well, and that was really interesting because one of the
comments was, well, yeah, youjust have to grow closer to him.
And Nan said, no, you need tolearn who you are as a person.
Nannette (07:33):
Right.
So kind of my pet peeve, um,about religion is everybody
blames everything either onJesus or Satan.
You know, if, if you're closerto, to Christ, then you're a
better person.
But if you do something wrong,then you're closer to Satan type
of thing.
And, and I think, It makes it sothat you're not taking
(07:54):
responsibility for your ownactions or for your own
spirituality.
but when you're standing in yourown truth and light and you're,
you're standing there, speaking,from your heart and from your
soul is completely differentthan speaking for a church.
And I wanted to get through tothem that look into, you know,
(08:15):
who you are without the church,believe whatever you want to
believe.
I don't believe it becausethat's not been my journey, but,
and that's okay.
And I'm not going to take yourjourney away from you, but.
Add this to your journey and,you know, kind of take a look
at, at who you are because it'sbeautiful and it's why you're
here.
This is our earth is our schooland you should realize that and
(08:38):
not put wrap everything up in areligion that may or may not be
true.
Brad (08:42):
Yeah.
Nannette (08:44):
Yeah.
So the one girl from California,she goes, she goes, okay, wow.
I feel like.
I just got taught, um, a reallygood lesson.
And the other girl was like,yeah.
And I was like, I, I send you inlove and light.
Like just, you know, have agreat time.
I don't know, I don't know thatthey'll ever be back.
I'm pretty sure I
Brad (09:04):
they might not be back, but you got a great picture with
them.
Nannette (09:08):
I did.
And there was no negativitywhatsoever.
Like I'm not trying to rip downtheir religion or take it from
them.
Um, that's their journey.
That's their path.
And I respect that.
And.
They need to respect mine and,um, the church is not part of my
journey anymore.
And by them constantly, youknow, I, I'm, I'm talking to the
guys when they would knock onthe door, they would stay for
(09:29):
six or seven minutes banging onthe goddamn
Brad (09:32):
for six or seven minutes banging on that goddamn
doorbell.
Well, it, it pisses me offbecause my
Nannette (09:39):
it, it pisses me off because my dog is going crazy.
Like, mom, why aren't youanswering the door?
I'm like, I'm not answering thedoor.
It's so stupid.
Cause I want to punch him in theface.
When you don't answer the door,you just go on and leave.
You know what I mean?
Oh my gosh.
It was ridiculous.
But I feel like, I feel like I'mbeing hassled in so many ways
and it's fine.
I'm never going to be mean andI'm never going to want to rip
(10:01):
them down or take their beliefsystem from them.
But they need to be able to knowthat I'm in a different place
too and respect my, my beliefstoo.
And I'm not going to be quietabout what I believe in.
If they're going to knock on mydoor, they're going to hear it.
Brad (10:15):
And I think that's completely fair and look it's
like we've told them if you needto use the bathroom if you need
a drink You need to get out ofthe heat or the cold.
You're welcome here anytime, butwe just don't want to talk
Church with you
Nannette (10:29):
They don't want us to talk church with them.
That's the
Brad (10:32):
but that's the thing too I think the important That these
kids because they're just
Nannette (10:38):
They are
Brad (10:39):
It's important to know that they have support and that
you know They're cared for and Ithink a hundred percent because
if it was my kid I would wantsomebody to be like hey come in
and get a drink come in and youknow get cooled off for a
Nannette (10:53):
Well, absolutely.
And, and you know what?
On this journey, we have paidfor a missionary, in our family
Brad (11:00):
we have paid for missionaries.
Nannette (11:01):
I was out of the church, Brad was out, but we
still paid for a missionarybecause they needed the help and
that was their belief system.
And, and that's okay.
We respect that.
That's the thing we need torespect each other's journeys
and cheer each other on becausewe're all learning.
And, um, if these missionaries.
Need to be on this path to learnawesome, you know, I honor that
(11:24):
but they have to honor me too.
And that's my point like I, ithas to be okay that I'm not
going, you know, it has to beokay that I'm different and, and
they
Brad (11:35):
for sure.
Nannette (11:36):
Yeah.
So if they're going to continueto knock on my door, they're
going to continue to get littlenuggets of love, that I hope
that they take to their heartand they know that I mean no
harm, but I want to help enrichtheir life because there's so
much more than what the churchwill allow them to be.
Brad (11:50):
Next time, we should just have, like, a missionary care
package ready.
With, like, some crystals andtarot cards.
Nannette (11:57):
Oh my gosh.
No.
Brad (12:01):
We could just get the, like, at the Mexican market.
They've got, like, those, thosecheap tarot cards.
We'd just give them a cheaptarot deck.
Why?
Nannette (12:07):
because they would think that they were evil and
then they would just throw themaway.
It would be a waste of money,but, but if we had them come in
and we did a reading on them,that would be different.
I would be open to
Brad (12:17):
would be open to that.
I doubt it.
Especially on a mission, I
Nannette (12:23):
especially on a mission.
I doubt
Brad (12:25):
would be more than
Nannette (12:27):
but I would be more than happy to read'em if they
wanted a reading.
That would be fun.
Brad (12:30):
reading.
That would be fun.
Nannette (12:41):
Yeah, well, I did with the sister missionaries, I did
let them know, that I saw stuffwith my human eyes, that I saw
spirits with my human eyes.
And the one sister, like shetook two steps backwards.
I know I scared her, but, and Ididn't mean to scare
Brad (12:56):
that's a little more normal in California.
Unless you're in Sedona.
Sedona, they know all about that
Nannette (13:00):
not California.
Oh, that's Arizona.
Yeah.
You're talking about
Brad (13:03):
Arizona.
Yeah, the California, it'snormal.
Nannette (13:05):
Well, we're talking Gilbert area where the temple
is.
So yeah, that's like where sheis from.
Brad (13:10):
Yeah.
That's the thick of it.
Nannette (13:14):
It is, you know, though, there's a lot of, LDS
people that are there that aresuper open minded.
There are other ones that arefull of fear and, and are not
open minded.
So everybody's on their journeyand you have to
Brad (13:25):
But speaking of journeys, if anyone out there is looking
to change the direction they'regoing right now, Nan has put out
an amazing opportunity foreveryone to get on their own
path and create their ownjourney through a journey.
Energy balancing for themselves.
She's actually got classes up onthe website and they are live.
(13:50):
And if you want to get into aclass, you can do that for this
coming year.
So it's a great opportunity, tojoin up with Nan and learn about
what she does and be able to doit for yourself and put that in
your own personal first aid kit.
Nannette (14:03):
It is so important, yes, to have in your first aid
kit.
there are pain balances inthere, there's everything from
balancing the stomach toheadaches to all the things, all
the symptoms, the body can healitself.
So to be able to balanceyourself and your kids and your
animals and everything, um, isjust so golden.
Brad (14:22):
to
Nannette (14:23):
Have that in your toolbox.
Yeah, you don't have to go pay adoctor.
For something like that when youcan do it yourself.
Pretty cool.
Brad (14:30):
Yeah, and that's our mid roll advertisement.
Ha, ha, ha.
Mormon to
Nannette (14:36):
Come join me.
Brad (14:37):
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Nannette (14:41):
I love it.
Yeah.
It says energy is the name ofmy, my energy.
Company.
So
Brad (14:47):
So I
Nannette (14:49):
I love it.
Brad (14:50):
It's also the name of the energy company in Australia.
They actually provide power forthe entire country.
Nannette (14:55):
That is really cool.
Brad (14:57):
If you're interested, go to zenergysage.
com.
Yeah.
You can
Nannette (15:01):
Yeah, you can sign up for any of the classes there.
the touch for health classes,one through four are in person.
The other ones are all on zoom.
So.
Anyone throughout the world canget on the Zoom call and learn
different things on how tobalance kids, pets, introduction
to Touch for Health, that kindof thing.
But if you want to actuallylearn hands on Touch for Health,
(15:23):
you can come get a hug from meand spend a couple days with me
and learn how to do it.
Oh, there is a limit of 10students per class.
So make sure that you get Inthere and sign up as soon as you
can.
Brad (15:36):
can.
Awesome.
Are you going to do multiplesessions of that throughout the
year?
Have you decided yet?
Or is it just going to be onesession a year?
So just
Nannette (15:43):
far, I'm just going to see how the one goes and how
taxing it is on me.
But my plan is to have it twicea year.
I'd love to do it again, inOctober.
so towards the end of the year,so
Brad (15:55):
we'll
Nannette (15:56):
though.
I'll, I'll let you know.
Brad (15:58):
Got it.
Cool.
Yeah.
Let me know so we can make surewe get it up.
Nannette (16:03):
Yeah.
I mean, I, after all of myclients and teaching and
everything, I might need somereally good tropical vacations
in October.
So we'll see.
I just saw your eyes get reallybig, Brad.
Brad (16:15):
What did, what do you mean?
Nannette (16:16):
yeah.
Oh my God.
Brad (16:18):
Yeah, you're not subtle at all.
Nannette (16:19):
You can either join me or stay home.
Either way I'm going.
Brad (16:23):
it'll be interesting to see when the next set of
missionaries come.
Nannette (16:25):
So with it being New Year's, I'm just wondering, um,
what are your New Year'sresolutions?
What are your goals for the NewYear?
Do you have any?
Last year, your goal was to givea
Brad (16:35):
It was to give a shit.
I think I did pretty well.
I was very caring and I took myheadphones off more often on the
plane and had some goodconversations with people.
So, yeah, I think I did prettywell.
Nice.
Yeah.
I
Nannette (16:51):
I love that.
I don't even remember what minewas.
Brad (16:54):
Wow.
Nannette (16:54):
We'll probably have to go back and listen to our own
podcast and find out what I,what my goal was, but I always
tried to be better than I wasthe day before.
So
Brad (17:02):
Well, I think you crushed it.
You're way better today than youwere yesterday.
Nannette (17:07):
thanks so much.
The shitty day yesterday.
Brad (17:09):
a miserable person yesterday, but today, oh my God,
you're awesome.
Yeah, so
Nannette (17:17):
So we're trying to quit coffee for a quick minute.
Brad (17:20):
Are we?
Or are you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, you
Nannette (17:23):
haven't had it very much lately, but I'm trying
because we've got to drop.
We've got to drop some LBs inthis house.
Like we like to eat so much and,and we need to drop some pounds.
Brad (17:37):
nothing wrong with that.
Nannette (17:39):
no, that, that's part of my new year's resolution.
I have some LBs to, to, to, Dropand it's not like that.
I'm really really heavy It'sjust I'm heavier than I want to
be and I want to be strong.
I want to feel really strong Ithink that that would be really
good and I have a busy year
Brad (17:57):
to be like, bodybuilding strong again?
No, no,
Nannette (17:59):
no, no, no, no, no, no,
Brad (18:00):
no, no.
If, for those of you who don'tknow, Nan actually did a
bodybuilding competition.
And she took first in twodifferent
Nannette (18:05):
I was the only one in the category.
Brad (18:07):
But she still took first.
You did.
You're such
Nannette (18:14):
such a smart
Brad (18:15):
You took first.
Nannette (18:16):
Oh my gosh.
Brad (18:17):
have to tell everybody it was only you.
Nannette (18:21):
Oh my gosh.
Brad (18:22):
You, you looked great and you had two great big medals
that covered your boobies.
Nannette (18:26):
I did get two giant medals.
They look like
Brad (18:29):
medals.
Yes, they did.
But you look great.
You put in the work and you, youearned it.
You deserve that.
Nannette (18:35):
don't want to be that kind of strong though.
I, I don't, I, I just want mybody to feel strong.
So I want to, You know,cardiovascularly and yeah, and,
and toned.
I want to be strong and tonedand know that I can go hike all
day long and not be exhausted.
You know what I mean?
Brad (18:54):
I mean?
Nannette (18:55):
Oh my gosh, the triggers stop.
You're such as yeah.
So y'all may think that me andBrad have like this perfect
marriage and we pretty much do,but Brad, he warned me when we
were dating that number one,he's oblivious and number two,
he is not romantic.
(19:16):
Check.
Okay, so he, when he is
Brad (19:18):
romantic I am, I am a romance god.
Nannette (19:20):
know, when you are romantic, you have to really put
some thought into it.
And he does, he does.
Okay, let me get, get you clearhere.
But, for our New Year's, Bradwas being super romantic.
And it was like, Oh my gosh, Ithink it was like midnight or
something.
And I always go in and I take ahot bath before I go to bed
(19:43):
because it helps my musclesrelax.
And I just seem to sleep better.
It's always been my routine mywhole life.
And so I've been there.
And then pretty soon Brad comeswalking in and.
He drops, trying to, I'm like,are you getting in here with me?
And he's like, yeah.
And I'm like, okay, cool.
Way to start the new year.
Right.
He gets in and he's like, Oh,you feel so good.
(20:03):
And the water feels so good.
And I'm like, what do I feellike?
And you know what he says?
This is how romantic Brad is.
Back skin.
I'm like,
Brad (20:12):
I did
Nannette (20:12):
I feel like back skin and he's like, yeah, you feel
like back skin.
Brad (20:17):
did not say it like
Nannette (20:18):
Yes you did.
Brad (20:19):
No, I did.
I
Nannette (20:19):
Yes, you did.
Brad (20:20):
my back.
Okay.
Nannette (20:21):
No, you didn't say my back
Brad (20:23):
Yes, I
Nannette (20:24):
no, you feel like back
Brad (20:25):
No, I said my back
Nannette (20:26):
No, you
Brad (20:26):
because here's,
Nannette (20:28):
I'm like, what are you talking about?
Back skin.
And you're like, yeah, you knowhow soft my back is.
I'm like, well, sometimes youget zits on your back and you
have hair at the bottom of yourspine.
I'm like, you think I feel likeskin on your back?
Back?
I'm like what?
Oblivious and not romantic.
I'm just gonna say.
That's how we started our newyear.
Brad (20:47):
new year.
Okay, so, first
Nannette (20:49):
faith
Brad (20:49):
I was touching your skin and you're like, How does that
feel?
And I was like, Well, how do Igive her an example of what her
skin feels like?
I'm like, okay, if she's rubbingmy arm it doesn't feel like that
because my arm is hairy.
And if she's rubbing my chest,my chest doesn't feel like that.
My back though, my back mightfeel smooth and soft like that.
Nannette (21:08):
He's never living
Brad (21:09):
feels like my back skin.
Nannette (21:11):
Yeah, you're never living it down.
Brad (21:12):
I thought it was the perfect example so you could
know what it
Nannette (21:15):
romantic.
Just like when we were,
Brad (21:19):
I was
Nannette (21:19):
we were going on a trip separate from each other,
and I'm like, why don't you makeme a playlist so that it reminds
me of you?
And, you know, because I have, aplaylist of songs that reminds
me of Corey.
And, um, so I was like, youknow, make me a playlist that
reminds me of you.
Oh, no, he, Brad's a rocker.
So he sends me this playlistfull of rock music.
(21:40):
And I'm like,
Brad (21:42):
It was songs
Nannette (21:43):
it was
Brad (21:44):
I love and you didn't just say that remind me of you You
said that you love that mightremind me of you and I'm like,
oh, I'll send you all the songsI love and I thought I did a
great job.
I Crushed that assignment.
I gave you all the songs that Ilove and you scoffed at them
Nannette (21:59):
back skin, Brad, oblivious.
Brad (22:01):
what it felt like so smooth and soft
Nannette (22:04):
Yeah, uh huh.
Epic fail.
Brad (22:08):
So I failed the beginning of the year I've got to make up
for it I may or may not havebeen a little embarrassed, so I,
I thought I
Nannette (22:17):
May or may
Brad (22:18):
not.
I thought I did a great job onexplaining it.
Nannette (22:22):
I think your heart was in the right place.
I think your brain was somewhereelse.
Brad (22:26):
so hard though.
Oh
Nannette (22:31):
He can, he can believe that's what he said and that's
how it came across.
I'm just like looking at himwith disgust.
Like
Brad (22:38):
She's like
Nannette (22:39):
I'm an energy worker.
You're going to tell me I feellike back skin.
Brad (22:42):
Yet she was looking for apparently if a girl asked you
that she's looking for some sortof like you feel like the warm
sun Shining on my face on abeautiful sunrise with the
orange glow behind it But youcan't be literal You can't be
literal.
That's not what they're lookingfor.
(23:03):
Just a word of advice to all youguys who listen and all you
ladies, just let your husbandsknow.
Please don't be literal if I askthis question.
Unless you say it feels like thesoftest silk from China.
I think that probably would havebeen a good answer.
Right?
Yeah.
(23:23):
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Nannette (23:25):
kidding.
Brad (23:27):
Also, don't be romantic when you're impaired.
It doesn't work out like youthink it will.
Nannette (23:31):
your wife.
God, you couldn't stop laughingafter that for like an
Brad (23:37):
It was hilarious.
Nannette (23:39):
was just stunned, like, what?
Brad (23:41):
Okay.
Enough about me.
So hey,
Nannette (23:45):
Jinx, you owe me a Coke.
Brad (23:47):
damn it.
Um, I did want to sharesomething with you that I
thought was funny.
So when we were talking aboutmissionaries before the show, I
actually looked up missionarybecause I was like, Let's see
what comes up.
Well, when you look upmissionary, it's not just like
missionary stuff that comes up.
One of the big things,
Nannette (24:08):
Brad, is this sexual,
Brad (24:11):
course, one of the things that comes up is the missionary
position.
And I learned actually that themissionary position was Deemed
such because that is whatmissionaries said was
appropriate when they would goout and proselytize, but the
reason that came about is
Nannette (24:30):
missionaries that are prose had sex that way.
Brad (24:32):
No, like the, like the people they were teaching, they
would say, Hey, this is the onlyappropriate way.
And this is kind of the thing.
So around 1215, um, 80,obviously, um, A cleric had
decided that there was oneposition that was the least
disagreeable and it wasmissionary.
Yeah.
(24:53):
And the reason was it balanced,you know, the chance of
procreation with a relativelylow eroticism.
But the funny thing is
Nannette (25:02):
the 1200s, they're trying to control
Brad (25:05):
people.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
Nannette (25:07):
yeah.
Is this a
Brad (25:08):
Yeah, this is the catholic church Yep, and so they actually
began handing out penances forpeople who
Nannette (25:16):
punishment?
Brad (25:16):
oh, yeah So if you went into confession, you know,
forgive me father i've sinnedblah blah blah blah It's been 30
days since my last confession.
Um during that 30 days.
I actually had sex while seatedWell, they would, they would
hand out 40 days of penance,which their punishment included
(25:36):
eating only bread and drinkingonly water, as well as
abstaining from sex for acertain amount of time.
Nannette (25:43):
what
Brad (25:44):
bread and water.
So what do you, if the woman wason top three years, three years,
pal, sorry.
Yeah.
Right.
Nannette (25:58):
sex and ejaculation.
Brad (26:01):
Here, here was one oral sex that included ejaculation.
Nannette (26:04):
on our podcast.
Brad (26:07):
I can.
Um, three to 15 years, three to15, depending on the theologian.
So it was kind of like Bishoproulette, you know, Hey, you
drank coffee.
You're good.
Go to the temple.
You drank coffee.
Oh, hell no.
We're excommunicating you.
So it literally, Bishop roulettehas been a thing for all the
ages.
Um, yeah.
(26:27):
Oh, here, the withdrawal method,pulling out.
Nannette (26:31):
Okay, but back in those days, they didn't have,
have contraception.
Brad (26:34):
matter.
It's still two to 10 years.
So you may as well just
Nannette (26:39):
Wow.
The things you look up.
Brad (26:41):
right.
Nannette (26:42):
Okay, you're done.
Brad (26:43):
Oh, but we didn't even get into masturbation.
Nannette (26:46):
it's okay.
It's okay.
Laughter Laughter
Brad (26:52):
This is the funniest thing.
So my friend LD, I was at hishouse one day and, um, His
little brother got a phone calland his mom answered the phone
and said, Hey, you know, Gavin,it's the ward clerk.
He wants to schedule anappointment to meet with the
bishop.
And without even skipping abeat, Gavin, Gavin goes, tell
(27:15):
him, yes, I pay my tithing andno, I don't masturbate.
Oh my God.
It was awesome.
Anyway, sorry.
I got sidetracked, but I thoughtthat was hilarious.
Yes.
That is a lot of controllers.
Oh yeah, yeah, anyway, yeah, itwas pretty crazy.
(27:39):
And, and that's the, uh, thewhole missionary style.
Yep.
Nannette (27:43):
Yeah.
Brad (27:44):
Yeah,
Nannette (27:45):
a whole different missionary than what we were
talking about earlier, but
Brad (27:48):
were talking about earlier, but okay.
Yes, definitely.
And
Nannette (27:52):
my gosh, Brad.
Brad (27:55):
that's how I romance my wife.
Yep.
Thank you though for listeningeveryone to our uh, wild ramble
for the new year and we hopethat you have a fantastic new
year.
Make it your best year yet.
will
Nannette (28:11):
we will see you.
Brad (28:13):
Oh, we're doing that already.
On the other side of the veil.
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