Mormons on Mushrooms

Mike and Doug sip eggnog and red wine, trade stories, and play a handful of original Christmas songs—some joyful, some aching, all deeply felt. Along the way they talk Santa, Jesus, solstice, grief, family, belief, and what it means to reclaim Christmas after faith falls apart. Cozy, chaotic, sincere, and full of heart.

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Mike and Doug revisit the Mormon mythos and the Book of Mormon, from headless Shiz gasping for breath to Utah’s mission-call pageantry and the culty performance of modern Mormonism. Doug reads from the book of Ether while Mike keeps interrupting with memories and myth, and somehow it all circles back to Jesus, ayahuasca, and The NeverEnding Story. A mix of laughter, rage, reverence, and the strange beauty of waking up.

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A hilarious, stoned wander through smoke alarms, old drafts, and Mormon boyhood that somehow morphs into Mike and Doug opening up about how music saved their asses. From first songs to personal meltdowns to the magic moments when melodies just “arrive,” this one’s a messy, heartfelt love note to friendship and making art together.

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From hotel revelations to Book of Mormon fan fiction — Mike and Doug catch up after a month apart to talk faith, fantasy, and the messy beauty of the in-between. They wander through Mormon nostalgia, creative purpose, and what it means to enjoy life without an endgame.

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An exploration of art, money, and meaning — from Twain’s hustle to the Beatles’ breakup, Nashville bars to AI-generated songs. Mike and Doug wrestle with the paradox of creating for love versus chasing success, and what it means to keep the soul in the work 

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Mike and Doug dive into Mark Twain and Beatles deep cuts, swap stories about their own songwriting, and laugh about Care Bear hats at a Darius Rucker show. The talk drifts into authenticity, slowing down creatively, and Doug’s raw reflections on health, ego, and the fear of being “phony.”

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Mike and Doug catch up after their Idaho trip and reflect on the stories we tell ourselves. Doug shares an experience in his yard where a snake encounter turned suddenly when his dog Ozzy bit it in half. The moment sparked reflection on presence, seriousness, and experiencing life as a waking dream.

They also talk about:

• Valley folk vs. mountain folk, and local identity.
• The confusion between names like Kurt and Kirk.
• How Mormon up...

Mike reunites with Glenn Ostlund of Infants on Thrones to kick off a new series on the Gene Keys. They dive into Glenn’s new book You’re Not Broken, Just Rewiring, explore Gene Key 51 (Agitation → Initiative → Awakening), and share raw stories of faith, separation, creativity, and transformation.

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Doug kicks things off with a story about finally using his Real Salt Lake season tickets and having what he calls the “time of his life.” A mid-season match against Club América turns into something more than just a game—it’s a full-body experience, complete with mariachi bands, yellow smoke, and a feeling of being transported. We talk about what it means to ride the wave of communal energy and how aliveness can show up in unexpect...

In this episode, we cover everything from Trump’s compulsive lying and the Mormon Church’s complicity in capitalist power structures, to Bel-Air acid trips, murder kinks in scripture, and Jesus maybe being a little gayer than we were taught. We draw parallels between culty MAGA thinking and Mormonism, laugh about being perceived as “different than we imagined,” and land in the deep mystery of belief — how none of us knows what the ...

Mike and Doug drop in after a bit of a break to catch up on life, psychedelics, healing, and everything in between.

Doug shares what came through during the solstice while recovering from surgery—some sun, some stillness, and a feeling that didn’t quite have a name. Mike talks about spending a Saturday alone, taking acid, deep-cleaning the house, and somehow stumbling into one of the best days he’s had in a long time.

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It finally happened. After five years of teasing it, Doug’s brother Adam joins the podcast—and it's everything we hoped for and more.

We dive deep into childhood hallucinations (or were they?), the mysterious and possibly imaginary Mitch Wrangler, and the shared false memory of eating rocks on the playground. Things get even weirder as we relive our first temple experiences—from sandwich board nudity and oily rubdowns to the su...

Mike is joined again by Kelli Christine Case for a deep dive into life after Mormonism, the messiness of self-discovery, and reclaiming pleasure, power, and presence.

They explore:

• The grief and rebirth that comes from leaving Mormonism
• Codependence and control in Mormon structures (and how it shows up post-Mormon)
• Deconstructing dating, polyamory, and monogamy as evolving processes, not fixed identities
• Why emotional honesty is a s...

After a few weeks apart, Mike and Doug catch up on everything that's been stirring—internally and out in the world.

Mike returns from Portugal, where he wandered the streets of Lisbon, finding a party around every corner, and accidentally discovered he may be a bit of a unicorn. He shares what it’s like to travel alone for the first time, dance with couples across cultures, and say yes to a spontaneous 2:30 a.m. tattoo.

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Welcome! We're excited you're here! In this episode, we introduce ourselves and give you the lay of the land on what you can expect from the podcast.

Whatever path you are on or whatever path you came from, we hope you join us as we explore higher consciousness while healing from toxic religious shame. How can we collectively heal from trauma, rewrite our stories, and reenchant our lives? Come and let's both...