Chimaev Dominates DDP, Lerone Murphy KOs Pico | Full UFC 319 Results + Recap - MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Using It's time to bank? Oh yeah, the jemaiahv era
is upon us. Welcome on into Morning Combat. Here to
breakdown all things UFC three nineteen on this Monday, August eighteenth,

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of the twenty five's Brian Campbell from c T fame
and of course from the nation's capital. Who's ready to
join the National garden turn on his own people.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's Luke Thomas, my.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Own I support my own people, but I'm ready to
turn on everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Okay, okay, shout out to that. Just the same. We're
gonna have a great show for you today, not only recapping,
of course, what went down in the Windy City on Saturday.
It's the middleweight title changed hands. Aaron Pico got killed, not.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Exactly Hendo who No, not exactly exactly. I mean Pico
tried for that finish, but.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Man, oh my god, protest the cigarettes are back in style. Also,
we'll look back at twenty year old heavyweights Moses Atama's
dismantling of Dillion White in one round doing Holy shit.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Dude, did he did? He did? Dillion White? I'm serious
question did he land a punch?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Maybe a jab? I didn't, I mean I didn't see
really anything of significance. And then we'll get into that
and more. Also, we'll take your dms, we'll go through
my ship to check for colonels and yeah, we're gonna
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the Main Card Minute. Where would we be lt without
that horned assceed you know what I mean, without that
man who just lusted after them fine American women to
produce this man, Luke Nocida. Okay, that was probably too
a little too far.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, that was a little too much, guys, but a
great time. You guys joined me for prop Quiz this week.
Got a lot of good feedback on it. If anyone
hasn't seen it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
You know, but don't forget who's the defending champion? Stop?

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Stop the steal is what I have to say.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Stop Are you going to jan sixth?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
The next episode? Ty's your girlfriend? I know you don't know.
She's great, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
All Long Island. Look, thank you for joining us today.
Just one word to describe what we saw in.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
That main event, please domination. There you go, that's one.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Uh yeah, I'm so fired up to talk about that. Also,
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Speaker 1 (03:27):
Right, you can take that.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, there we go. Yeah. I mean, I mean, did
you like if there's one Lilith Fair Act that you
had to publicly vouch for, Like, which which one is it?
I mean I'm not sure who Jewel?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Come on?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, sure, I mean McGee like McLachlan and the Sarah,
I mean the Angel. Now I'm good on that.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I mean so, I mean, look, I was ready to
build a mystery with her. There was a point where
I was in But I'm just saying in general.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Who was the who was the one who didn't shave
her pits? Who had the mummers dance? What was her name?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I don't know. We both indigo girls, I don't know.
I don't know if it was my scene overall, but
I watched a lot of MTV content surrounding it. Luke,
did you have a nice weekend or was your weekend
dominated by the fights?

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Dominated by the fights? But I had a nice weekend.
We had some fun with the Tuchster, went to the
Arlington Fair. It was a good time. Nice took her.
I saw my friend bought a house and moved in,
and I did a housewarming or went to his housewarming party.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
What do you bring for that?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
To bring wine? Yeah, some wine and some cheese. I
don't know if anybody had any of it except me?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
But did you cut any silently as you walked through
their kitchen?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Did I cut any silently?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
The first thing I did after I walking was took
a dump in his house, had to christen that boat.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Is that how a man marks his territory? On the
twenty five's there we go.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
I'm not running the fan either, I'm letting that one.
No courtesy flash Cranberry.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I'd lord that zombie ass. Wow.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
By the way, I've got my death liquid here today.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah you're I mean, do you lose What do you
think you lose from drinking that? A day?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
At least a day off your life. This is the
Barry power bomb.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Which I guess is a WWE infused are Co promoted.
It tastes like the backside of BC's nutsack.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
It is come drink my payloads right there.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
It's called C four. It'll kill you. Also, Luke, yesterday,
I was in so Bad. I was in the city,
so I went to the Imax theater and saw the
Grateful Dead movie that nineteen seventy four going Away concert.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
I bet you were sober as shit.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Huh, it's funny enough. My ticket was for seat number eight.
It was apropos, but I will tell you.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
That wow wow wow. Why were you in the city?

Speaker 2 (05:35):
That was that?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
No?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I worked in Stanford Saturday. Oh right, covering at the
SBA Sports Studio. So I have to assume that UFC
is going to be my life.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Moving seems that way. It seems that there's a direction.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
That it's headed. So we'll see where that takes us.
Let's take us into the recap of this show, and
let's get into the first topic right now. Hey, UFC
three nineteen in Chicagy didn't give us the fight of
the year like we might have thought in the fantastic
on paper matchup for the middleweight Championship that on the
way out we talked about Chimaia's dominance. There's also this

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growing minority of man. How boring was that. We'll get
into all that stuff, but first and foremost, Tom's chamayav
controlled and physically dominated Drecis Duplessy en route to unanimous
decision fifty to forty four on all three judges scorecards.
Round three, a ten eight round as he opened up
a cut over the eye of DDP. I don't know
if I've seen someone dominated exactly like this this thoroughly

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in a title fight. You know, we've seen quick knockouts,
but this was a different story. Luke, How impressive or
how impressed should we be by this complete dismantling in
of a pound for pound top fiver who was nine
to zero in the UFC and just being four straight
current former champions.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
I think, if you lose this bad, I don't know
if you should still be in the top ten pound
for pound can be hot. Old Crawford Spence bit right, well,
I mean if he lost fifty forty four across the board,
should you really be pound for pound If you're losing
fifty forty like, no one should be able to beat you.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I dropped him from four to ten, No five to ten,
number five to ten, Okay, because I did the same
thing with pereyra I'm like, look at the run they had.
This was a bad performance. Maybe now for prayer we go, well,
he was kind of more hurt. But you don't take
that excuse me.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I mean, I just say it's worth thinking about whether
you can lose like this and maintain pound for pound status.
It's a debate, but it's certainly open to question. I
have mixed feelings about this performance.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
You didn't enjoy it. I'm not saying the fight was
traditionally entertaining it. I'm not standing up for it in
that regard. Because I understand why people would hate this,
but there was some Floyd Mayweather brilliant performances too, where
you could say it didn't light up the airwaves, but man,
that was fun to watch. How he just systematically destroyed
that other guy.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I don't really agree.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I mean, everyone's going to be different, and everyone's going
to have a different feeling about what mattered to them,
or what they cared about or what stood out. Like
I'm one of these guys where like, if you enjoyed it, cool,
I don't really have an issue with that.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I don't think that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
But I've seen a lot of lecturing, including from fighters
who are just completely fucking wrong, saying that if you
didn't like this performance, and if you didn't like the grappling,
you're a casual.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I couldn't disagree more.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
I think that's completely insane and off base. Let's sort
of unpack what happened here. First of all, it wasn't
there was a mean, ZIPPYHNDO who would of this one?
So that one got you know, it's not.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Quite as bad, But whose fault is that? Is it
more of the guy doing the mauling?

Speaker 1 (08:28):
The majority of the fault goes to DDP.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
And his coach. Yes, after four rounds they have no answers,
open mouth, kiss each other, do something to try to
spice up the.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Bedroom, right, I mean, you just have to take risks,
you know, at that points risky. The point I would
I would make is clearly him. The reason why I
thought this fight could go bananas is not that you
did not think that Hamzat was better in the grappling department,
like you kind of took that as a given. But
the question was could DDP have enough defensive grappling and

(08:58):
then just you know, assertiveness to the course of about
to have these bursts of offense and life and like
what could that do to the course.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Of stay alive long enough to see if this man
has that championship round guesting.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
A few of these things that we were looking for.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
And he was so deficient in the grappling that we
really never got out of first gear.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
That was the issue. Offensively, This fight stayed in first
gear the entire time. The majority of the blame has
to go on DDP. His coach even said that they
were not prepared for the mounted crucifix, to which I
have to say, well, somebody didn't watch tape because at
Brave eighteen in November of twenty eighteen against Marco Kissich,

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he went hamsat Chamaiah went exactly into mounted crucifix. You
had to have known that this was at least partly
something that he would.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Also that sounds so lame to be, like, well, if
it wasn't for this one move, we would have won.
So you're talking about Dennis's interview on submission, Yeah, I
think we should check it out. It almost completely exposes
that guy without him realizing it.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
He doesn't seem to realize how bad he comes off,
but he comes off.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Back blaming the fans, aiming the referee. I mean, I
thought it was almost gratuitous how they stood that fight
up in round five and gave I disagree.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I thought the standard r was a fantastic I.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Guess I'd have to rewatch them at the uppruter link.
You did, but you wouldn't tell me in real time.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
You weren't like, wait, no, no, I was waiting for it.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I thought he could have stood him up earlier. Actually interesting,
But the one is this, Clearly the majority of the
blame goes to DDP for being unable to extricate himself
from seemingly anything, being on his back, being on his base,
standing leaning up against the fence, one knee, leaning up
against the fence. He had no ability to or very

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little anyway to remove himself from the situations that he
was in. His defensive grappling got audited. What I think
is kind of interesting about that BC is if this
was an interesting moment for all the other contenders, because
now you see all the positions that DDP got stuck in,
you also have to have an answer for all of
them too, exactly otherwise you're going to be back there

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as well. So it was an interesting revelation.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
But I just was finally tamia of being forced to
show us a little bit more full depth of his game.
Maybe not the full, but a lot more than we knew.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
But I have a big problem with the way Tamaiah
fought this fight, and I'm sorry that I do. He
made a concerted strategic decision. Okay, the strategic decision that
he made was he was going to keep chest to
chest or chest to back content excuse me, connection, I
should say, at basically all times. And there's a good

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reason for that. It's actually a very smart play. The
play is if you can maintain these kinds of connections,
it makes it vastly more difficult for the man underneath
to get out of that right it is it is
literally it is a way to put pressure and lay
weight on top so that they are stuck in whatever position,
either hands to the mat or back to the mat,

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whatever is being exposed in that moment. If you go
back and you watch, there's almost no place when as
long as they're touching one another. And if tremaievs in
a dominant position where there is distance between his chest
and the back or chest of DDP. But the problem
with that game plan is that that is maximally designed

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to maintain positional control, which is why it worked so well.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
But would you would would you say he looked for
a submission when it was there? Are you saying this
was more purposeful to basically be like, if you're not
going to change this, we're going to go the distance?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Just like what I am saying is, if you're going
to fight a game plan where you are that aggressively
pursuing chest to chest and chest to back connection, you
are making a choice to severely limit any kind of
meaningful ground and pound, and you are making a choice
to severely limit what kinds of submission opportunities are available

(12:47):
to you. He waived on a bunch of different things
that were very accessible that he could have gone to
because he was more prioritizing the pancaking control. So I
have plenty of appreciation for this skill it took to
do that kind of a thing. But dude, it's not
difficult to imagine put your chest on the ground and
try and punch around you. There's nothing you can really do.

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You have to create posture if you want to pass.
For example, Jamaiah got stood up in the fifth When
he got stood up in the fifth BC, he had
chest to chess contact on DDP. Ddp's guard is open,
and Shamiah has both knees on the ground. Ladies and gentlemen,
you cannot pass an MMA with both knees on the ground,
and you cannot ground and pound in MMA making chest

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to chess contact. So what is your offense from there?
You made a choice to have minimal offense in favor
of maximum positional control and the audacity, the fucking audacity
of people out there, fighters and media alike.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Be like, if you don't like this. You're a casual. No,
you're a fucking casual.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
I feel like this drives you forgetting me asking me
to jack off to twenty one minute of positional control.
I understand it is skillful and I don't mind it,
but make the argument where it is that is a
choice to minimize your offense in an offense first sport.
I don't have to think that's awesome. You're fucking wrong.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Period, and these people live inside of you.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
It drives me.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I just can't stand the currency that we give terrible
arguments because certain people from authority are just declaring that
this is how it is.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, the fuck it isn't a right.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
No, the fucking pushback a little, you would say, or
maybe you wouldn't. He went for it in round three,
getting the ten eight. While there were times in the
Crucifix where it's just dabbing the side of the head
for volume, that seemed to be a time where he
prioritized trying to get some elbows in. He didn't cut him. Okay,
maybe you didn't see that consistently in that want to
end it, But what if he didn't know the true

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answers to the to the gas tank issue and I
had some people DM me even before the fight and
Saturday and be like, you guys are missing that he
fixed his nose and all that's going to be behind
GDP or Tamaia. I don't even know if that's the case.
All I know is you truly don't know if you
have that five ron stand until you're in a crazy fight.
What if this was more about that basically.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
So again, so if you're going to make the choice
to maintain those kinds of forms of connection, it doesn't
mean that there's no chance you could get something in
the submission department, or that there's some kind of errant
shot might not cut him with an elbow from a
short distance. For example, Matt Hughes used to get mounted
crucifix and his elbows in that position were so devastating
they would call the fight from there. So he was

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able to maintain positional control with dominant ground and pound.
But again, it's gonna it's not an either or question, BC,
It's a question of you know, it's just a range
of possibility of what you're limiting to your point in
that third round, was he opening up a little bit
more sure and look at the results. I think that
they spoke for themselves. He could have done more offensively
and simply chose not to. Another point you raised about

(15:53):
the cardio, to me is actually very interesting. Again, if
you want to make the argument he was being diligent
and patient about his offense, then make that argument, But
don't make the argument that that is also simultaneously something
that's not offensively muted.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
No, it is like you have to make that argument.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
You're right if he did this three or four more
times in a row, then it would be a totally
different conversation about is there one dominant style that's making
the sport boring? You know, and people already doing that
of course, and on my Twitter that like see we've
got too many you know, Chechin and Georgian guys. I'm
foundationally of the other belief of like try and stop it.
I know that if he did this three, four or

(16:33):
five more times in a row, he would kill his marketability.
You can only be so popular like that. But I'm
just talking about from the one time, even though we
didn't get the fight of the Year Canada, this back
and forth action fight, I'm still more of the I
appreciate this shit about what he just did and showed
us he's got twelve finishes and fifteen wins, so we
know what his intentions are in fights. I looked at

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this as a little bit like when he fought Gilbert Burns,
and I thought, actually thought he lost that fight. But
I thought he unnecessarily was willing to try to show
the world that I'm not just a wrestler. I got
a backbone, like I'll fight to the death too, like
I am that guy. He showed that he passed that test.
I almost felt like this was the opposite, like he
wanted to show the world now that I'm fully healthy,
I'm not fighting once a year for three out of

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four years, I don't have gas tank issues. I'm ready.
This is what I can do to everybody in this division.
So look, if he fights his way every time, we're
gonna have a problem where he's not maximizing his strengths completely.
He's killing his potential crossover stardom. I mean, do you
hear the pops before the fight, show you the momentum
he's on and how badly people want this guy to
be for real. I believe he'll go for the finish

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more in these next fights. But I think he was
entering a five round fight knowing it could be a
war against a guy whose gas tank has never failed him,
and he basically said, let me take that strength, that
thing that he has over me. Let me take it
away completely by putting the onus on him. I'm gonna
gas him out. I'm gonna constantly be on top of
him anywhere he's gonna go, I'm gonna cut it off,
and I'm gonna make him force a type of rally

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that's going to leave him open to make a big
mistake him.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
One on positional control. We're just saying the same.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
That is also, to me, was fascinating as shit to watch,
you know what I'm saying. I was fascinated by dom.
I mean remember when Justin get You was on our
show and said, if one guy can hold you down,
then that means too care.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't I don't understand these
arguments from people where it's like, hey, we're not going
to count takedowns as offense and ma let me unless
you slam them, but we're not going to count take
it on in mma because the reward for the takedown is, well,
now you've got the fight on the floor. Because you
wanted it there. What is the reward for achieving a
control position from which you can do nothing else?

Speaker 1 (18:39):
This is it?

Speaker 3 (18:40):
It's just more of the control position, Like there's a
value to that, and I acknowledge it. And it's hard
like can everybody do what Hamzad did if they choose
to be maintain those same kinds of connection. No, Hamzad
is very very good. But to your point, I think
it's also we should say this, this could be one
of those scenarios BC where hey, listen, if Hamza loses

(19:01):
this fight, he's one of the biggest what ifs in
MMA history. At that point, you know, there might have
been a lot of pressure on him, and so he
chose to fight in a way where this was a
safer approach to get the dub on the en route
to twenty five minutes.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
But that doesn't make people being like I didn't necessarily
love a safe approach.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
From the guy for being wrong.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Nor is it us saying necessarily to the point you raise, hey, listen,
he might go out there against let's make something up, lady,
are and just really open up on him on the
ground here. Absolutely, what I'm saying is in this fight.
He thought he made a concerted choice to be offensively conservative.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
That's just all.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Things at once. I think it was both impressive. I
think it was also to what you're saying, taking a
put off the gas a little bit, where maybe he
could have taken a little bit more chances and got
the finish. I think he was also part of him
was that artistry of I want to show you now
that I'm finally here, exactly what is possible. I can
completely shut down your game now, Luke.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, but he has to shut down his in the process.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
I totally understand that, and not every fight is going
to look like that. Because as much as this was
super impressive from Chamaiyev, it was also disappointing to hear
to see ddp's performance, to hear from the coach afterwards
on Submission Radio and see that they had lack of answers.
Is there any potential? Is this one performance that people
were not entertained by. I don't think it's going to

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be the future, But do you think there's anything to
these casual Twitter arguments of like we don't have any
American champions and more and more we're seeing dominant for
foreign wrestling dominance. I don't believe that. I think it's
cyclical and it's gonna come around.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I think the reality is two things are happening. I
honestly don't think it matters that Chamaiev is not American.
I think people can really get again. He might go
back in his next fight to opening up. And I
rewatched some of his other fights, like against the Lead
or even Robert Whitaker. He's much more open. So, like
we know he can do it. I'm saying he chose
not to. But to your point, I think he can
still be a big star in this market, especially now

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that he can get here is a big part of it.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I don't really believe that.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
But at the same time, what people are noticing, they're
blaming this on other people. But two things are happening
at once. There's this ascendency of guys from you know
that the Caucus, the Caucus's mountains in that region where
they're all really being able to be great and deliver.
And there's also, independent of that a decline in American MMA.
That's just the reality.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
And so and we've talked about the decline in American
amateur wrestling stars because of Nil and all that.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
There's just there's just a lot less of these elite
guys coming over and I think make a ton of money,
and I think it's just I think it's just.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
You're seeing both the people like, oh, it's it's their fault.
It's not their fault.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
It's just a bunch of things are happening once and
it kind of looks bad for America in that way.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Well, part of me is like, Okay, I want to
see now who can stop this, and we'll get into
that first. Let's show some reaction here. This first being
UFC President Dana White reacting in the post fight pressre
to Hamzat's dominantly.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
Do you see before this fight that being the possible
way it was going to play out?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
No?

Speaker 7 (21:56):
Uh, the lead up to this fight, I said, I
bet the main event is fight of the night. Didn't
see that coming, but not shocked either. I mean, you
go in and dominate the way that he dominated, if
you can do it the first round one like they're
gonna do it the second and throughout.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
The rest of the fight.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
There was a time, and it was in the promos
leading up to this fight, you said hums Up was special,
one of the most special guys you've ever seen. Do
you think he's lived up to that yet or does
he still have a little ways to go, because he's
been a bit more inactive since.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
The night for you know, when we were on Fight Island,
he said, I want to fight next Saturday. Ever since then,
the guy's been a rocket ship and obviously is very
popular too.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
People love him.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
Fighting back here in the United States, and obviously Chicago
loved him too.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
And what did you think of Ddp's performance?

Speaker 6 (22:40):
Right, obviously he was out matched in the wrestling, never
gave up though, even in the last round he started
landing his own shots. What did you make of DDP
and his toughness to survive five rounds?

Speaker 7 (22:49):
Yeah, I mean, first of all, I had every round
of ten eight, maybe except for the last round, but
you know, to be in the position that he was
in and the crew crucifix and just getting dominated on
the ground and punched in the face and elbowed, and
it's a very frustrating place to be.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
And I thought he.

Speaker 7 (23:06):
Handled it well and came out every round, you know,
trying to to get in the fight and try to win.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
Yeah, on the crucifix, it's a weird one. Right, they're
landing strikes. He's landing like two hundred punches around, but
they're not quite hard enough to.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
H Dana would go on to speak a little bit
more on that fight. Yeah, as long as it's sort
of a one off. I don't think this kills the
momentum he's built so aggressively and so fast. If you
take out a John Jones and econom McGregor, who are
sporadic and only have a you know, one or none
left each and them probably when you look at their
star list right now, their valuable assets. To PORI I

(23:42):
feel like is is still the most powerful, the most valuable,
even if others have been more established longer, like a
ma Machev who got the hoobie brub but Hamzak catapults
toward the towards the top of that list. Suddenly, is
he like number two in your eyes?

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I would not put him ahead of Morob. I certainly
wouldn't put him ahead of Ilia.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Really because he's far more charismatic in headline creating than Morob.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Poetson too.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
We gotta I mean Poeton certainly, you know, with a
bounce back, no.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Question, I'm not sure. I guess I don't understand the crow.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Here's the most valuable brand as a promotional entity, as
a promotionalth not just driving pay per view bys, but
actually like building momentum people follow.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
He's up there.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, he's top three certainly among active fighters. I don't
really count John O'Connor in that way. Yeah, he's top
three for sure, but I don't I do think that. Listen,
people are gonna buy his next pay per view more
than who bought this one, or you know whatever. The
metric ends up being one people will watch. Let's say
it's a better way to put it. And again, he
could return to form. But I don't think this this

(24:45):
was this was this was just important in crossing the threshold.
It was just important crossing the championship threshold. This is
not one I don't think that's necessarily going to stand
the test of time. Yes, in part because I think
some of the other middleweight contenders are going to be
a little bit more forceful about resistance.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Well, him not gassing out. Him doing this in such
question about thorrough detail, I think cancels the questions that
I most had about him coming in. So that's very
good that we got that question. But I don't know
about him staying consistent and healthy and being this guy
needs to start fighting three times a year like he
needs to agree with him, he's gonna have the rocket
ship behind him. He needs to be able to get

(25:20):
in there. And that's my biggest hope.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
For my question is this it's and I'm listen to
what I am saying. I am asserting a question. I
am not asserting an answer. Some things I feel like
I have an answer for this one I don't, which
is clearly, apportioning his offense in the way that he
did was smart for a twenty five minute fight, and
the fact that he was able to maintain discipline about

(25:41):
that only speaks good of him. Yeah, However, is there
a question that if he has to disperse his offense
and manage his resources this way, he becomes a lot
less dangerous.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
And that's something that he has to prove to us
through evolution, that he can start chipping away at that gap.
And I don't think that gap as monster. I mean that,
whether you thought him or Gilbert Burns want to grant it,
that was welterweight. But same thing with Camorrow. They were
very even competitive fights where you saw a lot to
love and you saw some things that you questioned. You know,
for usman fight, it was him sort of you know,

(26:15):
kind of not giving up the round, but like trying
to stay up with that same level of stamina he was.
He was gassing and stalling and not at that same force.
He showed at least in this fight that the five
round thing probably won't be an issue. But again, if
he's in a brawl, we're going to see a lot
more of who he actually is. But now it's up
to somebody to get him into that brawl. So before
we talk exactly about who's next for him, I just
wanted to close the book on DDP. This has the

(26:37):
potential to be demoralizing, or you can simply say, all right,
that's a hole in my game. I've got to level
it up. Can he level it up and get right
back in and stay in contention and be one to
two wins away from a title shot again to try
to right that wrong, no matter who's you know, who's
on the throne at that moment.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I don't know, I don't know. I mean, I don't
think there's a lot of demand for rematch. That's not
what you're saying. You're saying one to two.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Here's the question you have to ask yourself, how far.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Behind is DDP in the wrestling? And of course the
answer is not that you have to get him equal
with hams On. I don't know if there's enough time
in their lives for them to do that. The question
you have to ask yourself is does he have enough
time and enough ability to you know, shut down Let's
say half the takedowns. So he got twelve on hums
On DDP he only gets six in a five round fight,

(27:29):
and that that's six difference is enough to change his
competitive fortunes.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I don't know the answer to that. Yeah, I don't
know the answer to that.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
I think that I will say this, get the gap
between them in grappling skill is enormous. It is enormous.
This is not a simple fix, which is what another
reason why his coach being get out of there is, Oh,
I know exactly what we have to work on. Well, yeah,
because your guy got fucking audited, Like everybody.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Knows what he has to work on. I forget.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Can you look at up for us? It's on Submission
Radio's YouTube channel. Shouts to h to Dennis.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, I mean it's damaging. But you guys, you got
to bounce back in a big way. You got to
show us.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
I mean, it's not like I don't think he's gonna
beat other good middleweight. It's like, for sure I do,
but it's a big fucking difference.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
His name is Moore and Visser. They got weird names
in South Africa, don't they.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
I mean that, I don't. I don't think he has
to change camps and that's going to be the fix.
But they all got to look in the mirror.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, dude, you got shown up in a big way.
You couldn't do anything. I mean literally, they could do nothing.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Well, that's why I hate when people do the boring
thing because and I don't hate it from the standpoint
of you can't appreciate it if you think it's boring,
like I'm not. I'm just doing it from the like,
don't take away from what how brilliant that actually is. He?
I mean that dude had this dude was the championship
with Lee pound for pound breakout star and he's like I.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Say, I said, if you told RDR to do exactly
what HAMSA did, if you told Fluffy Fluffy could get closer,
but even that, I don't think they could pull off
what Hamza did. What he did was skillful. I just
feel like it's not unfair to say he made a
choice to give up on the most important kinds of
offense that are available. And I'm not a dickhead for
noticing that.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
All Right, Who's next for Hamzad opens up a big
wad because we've got a lot of names. You certainly
have Rnier de Ritter, who's won four UFC fights in
like six months since joining and is on fire and
getting better somehow every time. Anthony Fluffy Hernandez maybe more
of a dark horse, but that shut down performance of
Roman Deliedze catapulted him up. The bigger one may be
the September number one contender about headlining a fight Night

(29:29):
card between nassardin Imavov and Kyle Bohalio. Let's hear from
the new champ regarding how quickly you come back when
and who and all that, because I can't wait to
see who it is. I got opinions about all of them.

Speaker 8 (29:43):
But here's Hamsa, do you still want to turn around
and fight? And Abbi Dabby.

Speaker 9 (29:47):
We'll see what they says I'm ready overly, so no
injursh thanks ed.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
Who do you think is the most deserving contender to
challenge you for that belt?

Speaker 2 (29:59):
First?

Speaker 9 (30:01):
I don't care about these things, but I just where
they use the money. I fight anyone.

Speaker 8 (30:06):
He had said all fight he wants to turn around
and fight in Abu Dhabi? Is that something you would
consider or do you feel like with the heavyweight title
already on that card like he made.

Speaker 7 (30:15):
I just had a kid fight Tuesday and wanted to
turn around and come here, I would Abu Dhabi, I
would definitely consider.

Speaker 8 (30:21):
Yeah, I mean so many great potential contenders right now.
Right we have the great fluffy win Renar to Ritter,
we have a huge fight in Paris. Are you just
kind of waiting for the Paris one and then maybe
see the lay of the land if he could be next.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
I'm waiting for Tuesday, But yeah, I agree with everything
you just said.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
So, Luke, this is going to be interesting of who
gets the nod. We talked at length about this heading
into this card. We both felt Nasardine, even if it's
kind of an impressive wind, may not have the clout
or the company protection or momentum. However, you want to
phrase it, I think I would want most RDR next
the streak, he's on the fact that naturally he could
potentially could have that kryptonite on the ground, where not

(31:01):
only he could prevent that grappling takeover, he could provide
a counter threat with a submission that makes that look
a lot different. And then I think that striking battle
would be very interesting in that fight because r DR
is dangerous in weird ways, but maybe that gives Chamaia
of an opportunity to really show.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Us what he can do there.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Who do you think it will be and who do
you want at this point after this fight?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I think my most interesting question is probably going to
be Fluffy. For me, I'm gonna rank Fluffy again, not
as the number one contender exactly, but an answer to
your question, who has the best chance of giving CHAMAI
I would pick CHAMAIAV over anybody I think right now, yes,
But who's got a best chance? I'd say Fluffy one,
maybe Kyo two I'm less committed to that one, and

(31:41):
maybe r DR three. And the reason why is on
the feet. I certainly think on the feet. By the way,
Jamaiah is skillful, but not lights out power face. He's
a little basic basic powerful. He's powerful and that that counts,
but that's not like his ability to meaningfully set up
and execute without being defensively vulnerable is saw.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
He's also going to develop that kick game.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yes, I totally agreed. I mean he can punch. I mean,
there's no question you could punch. But what I would
say is the RDR factor is he's gonna get taken
down and he's gonna get put in bad positions. What
you have to bank on is can RDR do funky
jiu jitsu stuff to counter it.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
I don't know. I don't know what I want to see. Yeah,
I don't know the answer to that.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
I feel like Hernandez has the best chance of making
that one real tough for CHIMAIV down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I do feel like, you know, with the TREMAIEV when
it resets things, because you know, DDP had been on
top there for a while and for all the big
names in a row. But I wonder if this helps
Fluffy's chances because he brings, like you know, as much
as RDR is an interesting counter because of the submission game,
Bluffy's got the cardio to max the wrestling to potentially match.
I said, Max that match. I wonder if this helps

(32:51):
him potentially propel Like let's say Imovov versus h Well
Halio as a dud Imovov gets a somewhat disputed but
boring I must just say that weapons could you see
Fluffy getting getting pushed in because he's hot? He represents
an interesting uh you know, of the Mexican American fan base.
I mean there's a couple of things suddenly going in
his way that I wonder if the title change made

(33:12):
it more possible.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
I think they're gonna go with what makes the biggest splash.
Hernandez is a hardcore fans delight. I'm not sure how
much more in the wider But here's the problem, dude, Like,
are any of these middleweight guys KYO, RDR or Fluffy? Yes,
some stand out more than the others, but none as
exactly like?

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Am I being wrong?

Speaker 10 (33:35):
Along on Luke?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Which of these contenders that we're talking about here do
you feel like has really captured the imagination of the
fan base RDR.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
It's gotta be RDR. I'm in agreeance with you, Luke.
I think give the shot to Fluffy Necks against SHAMAIAV
do DDP RDR and sorry kyomov, you guys are in
no man's land in time.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
DDP RDR has the capacity for I mean, call a shoga,
who h and hando, but I would say Kat's in
a bag.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, it'd be wildcats and a bag. Stuff going on
right there. Damn. This is interesting. Obviously, Sean Strickland is
kind of quasi in this mix. He's coming off of
a loss though too, in his last three both against DDP.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
However, and Strickland have a fight lined up.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
He doesn't, but I think that, like if he did
and could get a quick wines, that would be interesting
about the CHAMAIAV calendar. If he comes back October against
whoever they put him in, well, if he gets a
quick win there, I'm not saying he will, but if
he does, you could even bring him back in January
for the debut on Paramount if you wanted to, right like,
because you got to think you got to put somebody
in that main event who's got big time momentum and
has a splash. But specifically related to Strickland, we do

(34:39):
have homs out here responding to the back and forth
that they had or really just you know Strickland pumping
the twitter waves with calling him weak, calling him a
lot of things. Here's the New Champs reaction.

Speaker 6 (34:50):
Okay, Sean Strickland, your old friend has been tweeting about
you since the fight.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
He said that when you were.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
In the gym together, he would actually out wrestle you,
be better than you and the rest thing over the
four rounds.

Speaker 9 (35:02):
They just take him down many times? How can he
take me down?

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Come on?

Speaker 9 (35:07):
This guy beat him to able to adit a striking
But these guys just talked too much. So he's a
funny guy. He's walking with what his names. I make
them together.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I want them together.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I'll make them together. He'll beat them both in the
same night right there?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
That is uh.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I kind of wish Strickland. I mean it would have
to be like a loser leaves title contention, which it
probably would be anyway, if you have a shot here,
But I don't want it coming off of a loss.
I'd love to see him have to prove it. There
are other guys that are more deserving. Let's hear Fluffy,
who was there in Chicago and was interviewed backstage afterwards
about if he could get the shot.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
Tell me your thoughts on what we saw.

Speaker 11 (35:51):
I thought you might have the new champion of the
middleweight division.

Speaker 12 (35:54):
Congratulations for him. He's fucking pretty boring five not a lie,
But man, call me for the fight. I can wrestle,
I can do jiu jitsu, I can stop all the shit,
and I can shut him down. And like with my guests,
thank man.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
I'll drawn him.

Speaker 12 (36:07):
I promise, I'll make him fucking work. So call me.
Keep me in mind, guys, and I think you guys
will have a new fucking Mexican American champion.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Dude, I would see the real Kane Velaskaz.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
I wonder if they watched if the UFC brass watches that,
and it's like.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
He's fucking right.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
This is the two alpha fight that we thought the
DDP versus Tamia fight was because we thought it would
be more just in the mix of everything in the recklessness.
But no, this one has that potential to be more
about just high pace, both having the same skill sets
in some ways.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
If it's and also here's a very basic question. No
one is going to argue that Hernandez is a better
wrestler than Shamia. Certainly, I would not make that argument.
But if it ends up coming down to being because
TAMAIV gets tired a labor issue, Fluffy's gonna win that
one ten times out of ten. That's an interesting fight

(37:02):
to me. Also, we have Kyle giving sound.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
For we're getting there.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
I did want to ask you before we show Kyle here,
who is the best dance partner if they were going
to save Tremaiah for the debut paramount card? Who brings
the most name value, who brings the most potential.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Strickland, Yeah, I think that's right. Strickland, that is right.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
If that's going to be their first CBS Live type
of deal, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
We'll see what happened when we come back in October.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Here is the aforementioned Kyle Bohalio talking about him being
the guy to beat HAMSA.

Speaker 8 (37:29):
But we see five hundred and twenty nine total strikes
landed twenty one minutes of ground control. But you see
a lot of fans out there calling it boring, not exciting.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
What did you think he did? Just back connection, but
this time he didn't finish.

Speaker 13 (37:40):
So when a grapple it comes and just hug the
guys and he doesn't finish, he becomes a boring fight.
Spent one month in his training camp when he was
in All Stars over there, and I know very well
how he works, he sees him and everything. And I
think I'm have a advantage between all the middleweight fighters. I
think I'm the one that had have advantage to beat

(38:03):
him because I know what what exactly is he's doing,
what exactly is his system and all these steps that
he needs to go through, and hows to deny these steps.
So I'm very respectful for Hamsa. He's like a brother
for me. But at this time, at this point is
level of the competition.

Speaker 8 (38:21):
It's me and him. You know, let's talk. Maybe Humsat
will turn around for Abbi Dabby. Would you be open
to you know, fighting and then fighting again that soon
or would you maybe have him fight someone else?

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Then you get the winner.

Speaker 13 (38:30):
To be honest, if if someone somebody offered him avolve
to fight Hamsa, he will say no right now because
he was mopped in the floor by Hamsa when they
trained together. So to be honest with you, if you
comes to me right now and say fucking above, he's
a guy that gives us a lot of work. He
didn't want to fight on International Fight Week. He called

(38:53):
it backup as a left over. He's like, he don't
respect the UFC, so fuck him above, Fuck Perry go
prepared to fight Hams in October.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I'm ready.

Speaker 13 (39:02):
If YOU'REFC offer me this, I'll say yes right away.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
This is going to make their fight in Paris in September,
him and Imovov. He's going to be electric because they
both know that, like Laro Murphy, who we're going to
talk about in a second, you can turn your reputation
in an instance with a badass finish or a breakthrough win.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Right there, you're right there, And I think Kyo to
me doesn't sound like he doesn't believe he can win this.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Neither Flood they are convinced. Sounds badass, they can win this. Yeah,
I love can't say.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
What's your guys opinion on Kyo weighing in as the
backup two weeks before he's.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Headlined like that.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Probably a mistake, right, Probably a mistake. Maybe I may
not be a fatal one, but my mistake.

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What's our next paper view here UFC.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Three, Well, not till October. So the next big pay
per view is Canelo Crawford. But a next big MMA
pay per view is not till October.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
So it's the last week of September and then it
turns October. So that's you have see three twenty Abu
Dhabi and Calia versus Peira two yep, and then Morob
versus Corey, Sandy and brit That's going to be a
big pregame preview as well. Fired Up for that one,
all right. Topic number two takes us to the co
main event on Saturday, which could have been a debuting

(40:55):
coronation for Aaron Pico into true featherweight title contention in
a potential gift to the promotion as we talked about
coming in. But oh by the way, last minute and
opponent Laro Murphy was sixteen oh to one and that
became seventeen in such a shocking, violent, massive way after
a first round in which Pico very aggressively, if not

(41:15):
over aggressively, brought the offense to Murphy. Late in that round,
with his back to the cage, he unleashed a KO
of the year like spinning back this ko swiminning back
elbow excuse me the tenth and promotional history and back
to back fights after Carlokes practice did it the one before?
Holy shit, It was one of those type of moments

(41:36):
that Dana White deals. How much does a win like
this do for Lo Murphy's promotional development? Considering I thought
this was a chance for the UFC to get rid
of the problems with where do we put this guy?
This is a new guy, Luke, Holy Shit's that's gotta
be overnight changing your fortunes in a massive way.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
I don't know if there was anyone else short of
the champ. I don't know if there as anyone else
on the roster they could have matched him up with
that would have yielded as promotionally valuable a result as
this one, right, because Pico had a ton of hype
coming in Murphy, I think people begrudgingly, not us, but
others begrudgingly respected him. But you know, didn't think that

(42:18):
he was necessarily a dangerous.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Nin evv in that begrudging You don't feel like he
was the fill in for the guy that people didn't want.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
That exactly right, and you know, a bit of an
unknown figure to most. To be perfectly honest, you could
have matched him up with Mosar, but what do you
have gotten an electric win like this. You could have
matched him up with Yayir and that would have been good.
But I don't think he's gonna fight yea year like this.
To the point I'm trying to make is you got
a promotional darling to make himself vulnerable in such a
way where Murphy got the most electric win of his

(42:46):
career at the most important juncture. I think he's thirty
six again, yep, thirty I believe that's right.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Look is Laron Murphy thirty six?

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Double sounds way too old? Way looked that up? Look
that up.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I'm offended by that.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Maybe thirty four? What is he? I'm typing, guys, give me.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I mean, this should be quicker long.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
You know, I'm on a phone.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
It's a controller for the two hour shows.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Here, I clicked the Wikipedia. He's thirty four, thirty four, Okay,
getting up there.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
It's time.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
It's time.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
As a point'm trying to make, this was I mean,
it could not have gone better for him.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
This was like uh what's his name? Uh? Head kicking
Camarro in the rematch Leon Edwards a little in terms
of turning your faith. Only that was for the championship.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
I mean, although he was getting thrashed in that fight
a little bit, and it was it was competitive in spots,
but whatever, this was so good for him. This was
this was I mean, it's worst case scenario for Aaron Pico,
honestly it is, and this is best case scenario for
Laren Murphy. It is that stark and that different, and honestly,
BC good for him, man, because I just don't know

(43:47):
what other combination they could have given him that would
have just catapulted him in the way that he did
it one more time. He took this fight on three weeks.
Notice he traveled, made weight and got a first round KO.
What more can you ask from a guy?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
And he weathered the storm of Pico's over aggressiveness, but
it was at times effective over aggressiveness when he's landing
those big time hooks to the body. He took Murphy down,
landed some kind of heavy ground and pound. Looked like
that that you know, contracted, you know, hit man right there.
But if you noticed his advances increasingly got a little

(44:21):
more reckless. He got checked by a left hand when
he went in for a double leg. He caught on
knee of the face, and it started to be like, okay,
Murphy's picking this up. Still, Holy shit, that was a
violent finish. I mean, Pico was down so long. Do
you see the Daniel Cormier video he put out where
he was like from our vantage point, it took four
people to come in and upwards of four minutes to

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get the mouthpiece out, and he was out for you know,
over four minutes. I know. He put out a statement
that on Instagram that was like, you know, I've been
here before. I'm gonna bounce back. This is just a loss,
it's a setback. As much as this was the most
samee greatest thing that could ever happen to Luran Murphy,

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I can't imagine a worst case scenario. And at the
same time, it wasn't a lucky shot. He was doing
the things that got him in trouble back when he
was originally climbing, and while that last nine fight stretch
he had repaired it. This is a higher level of competition.
I know. It's something we debated during the pregame preview.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
I was right.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
He brought it. You know, what can you say he
brought He brought it on himself. He was over aggressive,
he was effective. Now he was knocked out cold. And
I don't even know about his feature, Luke, I really don't.
I don't really know how you picked this up.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I mean this it's gonna sound hyperbolic, but we were
right to note that on the pregame preview, Like Dude Larone,
we said it about Mosar, the Mozar is not a
big puncher or even you know, a very capable striker
in that way. Yeah, so the argument was the same,
which was, you've never fought anyone remotely this good, but
the threat of mozart Is could take q pay on
that badly, right right, And it's just it's just a

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different threat, like he's gonna wrestle you and blah blah blah.
But Murphy's threat. And I didn't think he was gonna
be a big KO threat. I thought he'd be able
to touch and go and be hard to find. But
then when you just roll up on a guy like
this so recklessly, look what happens.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
BC.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Let's just say it out loud, like Pico is a
very very nice young man and he's only twenty eight.
That part is true, but his career is in trouble.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
You like saying get into modeling, now, No, that's not
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
I'm not even saying he won't come back and get
some nice wins. I think he will, but the amount
of damage he's taken has compromised his ability to absorb
further damage.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
He's like a mere Khan.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
And the thing that got me was like, dude, you
got in trouble in MMA for rushing your offense when
it wasn't the rest and partly the rest of his
game wasn't ready but still rushing and in your UFC debut,
you're still doing this, ye, dude. I mean I don't
know what to say, but like, how can you be
repeating these kinds of mistakes unnecessarily?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
I mean I was wrong, of course, I just never
thought he would go back to that way of creating
that mistake. That'll, right, take your time, take your time,
I mean, slowly wrestle him, wear him out a little bit,
lean on that all that.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
It wasn't like Murphy marched over across the cage and
then like forced him into a firefight. He was the
one doing this. It just is the decision making is poor.
The consequences are catastrophic.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
His career is in trouble. It's in trouble. It's not over,
but it's in trouble.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
You would almost need a complete defensive overhaul.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
It's not just but have we done this.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
We've we've been through this. Yeah, and it's only the he.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Tried to stagger step like his way in and then
by the time he gets hit, he's square.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
It's I mean, your heart broke form, didn't it. Your
heart broke form. It's what happens in this game, but
holy shit.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
It did break from But at the same time, it's
like I don't know what to say to people.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Like damn well, considering the trash talk between Peko and
Volkanovski leading up to this fight, we felt like we
had the perfect transition into a red hot matchup that
we need to see. Luckily for Laron Murphy, he's He's
transitioned us pretty excitingly. Maybe not on the level of
what we would expect out of Peko versus Volk, but
now we need to recalibrate how difficult a matchup potentially

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thirty four year old the Royd Murphy will be for
the two time champion. First, let's here from Murphy at
the post fight pressor repeating what he did in the cage,
which was calling out the chip.

Speaker 6 (48:16):
And again, nothing is concrete in this game, but you
have the featherweight champion of the world calling you out
for a fight in December. Alex Wolkonowski wants to fight.
It seems like you've done enough at this stage. Is
that the fighting is that the timeline you would like
to do.

Speaker 14 (48:30):
That December will be perfect for me. Gives me time
to recharge, spend some time with the family, and then
and work on some bits and get better and come
back better. December would be great to share the to
gone with Volkanovski, one of the featherweight goats, another adding
another scalp to my already quality resume. I'm nine fights,

(48:53):
nine fights, nine fights. No, yeah, so I've had ten
fights in the UFC now one draw, nine wins.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
It's time for a title fight.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Hard to debate that at all, in fact, and he's
never been sexier in that regard. Uh. Look, before we
throw it to Dana White, I do how much of
a threat is he to the title after that performance?

Speaker 3 (49:17):
I would not favor him to beat Folkanovski, but I
think he's a worthy adversary that could surprise. I wouldn't
I wouldn't bet on him, but I would not dismiss
him as some kind of overmatched nothing.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I don't think that's right.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
And nobody's got a stronger case of by the way
right now, unless you want to go back to ev Love,
who just pulled out of right, so you're not.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Most are in a different circumstance would be the guy.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
But now no, so, uh do you guys think if
Jan Silva beats Diego Lopez in a month.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
So that's the X factor that opens up factor. If
he goes in there and fucks Diego Lopez up, he's
gonna jump the queue.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Maybe yeah, but how could it be a sexier finish?
Then he just did that to the potential new Golden
Jayon Silva. He fucks, yeah, he fucks.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
So it's a it's a it's a tall order, but
I let's see, let's see, let's go from the boss.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Here's Dana Way reacting to the idea of Vulk versus Murphy.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
Alex Wolkonowski said he would like to fight him in December.
It's not often you see a champion calling out the
challenger could be interested.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
I love it and here's the two. Okay, here we
go it. That's all we need to hear. Here's the
tweet and mentioned Vulk came right out after that call
out in the kid see in December, Laurn Murphy, congrats.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
He's looking for it to get back out there.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Vulk also recorded a video sense then in his car
talking about this matchup.

Speaker 15 (50:32):
A lot of people gonna be like, moms, I should
be there is like, hey, I tried it.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
You know, I'm gonna tell you right now. I try
to make that happen. I thought he deserves it. He
did deserve it.

Speaker 15 (50:40):
He had this fight and then I'm like, all right,
you know he's gonna have to do this fight. And
then he definitely gets it, and then he pulled out.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
And you know what the UFC is like with things
like that.

Speaker 15 (50:50):
You know that maybe they try to push it back
because they pushed the date further and he still didn't
do it.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Maybe it was a serious injury. I'm not sure. I
don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Maybe that's why he have thought as well.

Speaker 15 (51:00):
I don't know, but you know, it doesn't look like
it's gonna be a ah, you know.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
A Movza.

Speaker 15 (51:07):
But I mean I've tried with all of them, but
now it looks like it's a Laura Murphy.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
It makes a lot of sense. So let's do Loroa
Murphy decend.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Sounds good to me. Volk, do you think if al
Jo beats Ortega on Saturday that he catapults back into
this conversation or does the loss to iv Loev, even
though it was competitive, hold him back.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Sterling could make a little noise, but I just feel like,
it's the kind of matchup where it's going to be
really hard to do that, and it's in China and
it's at six in the morning.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
You know, they're not.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Exactly setting him up. They're not setting him up to fail,
but they're not. This is a little bit of you know,
swimming upstream in order to get what you want, can
be done that it would have to be extremely impressive.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I mean, again, to your.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Point, you just lost a couple of really close ones
in this division, right.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
And he lost to moss Are in a very fun
ass fight. So well that's the other part too. But
like you know, again, dude, Laren Murphy doesn't have the
name recognition that Aljo had, but he's got an arguable
KO of the Year contender and that's just going to
be really tough to beat.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
To close the book on Pico, does this play into
the argument that those coming from Bellator or PFL, you know,
have a hard time. I mean, you can always argue
back and say that Eddie Alvarez became champion. There's always
going to be But on this recent run, which includes
Patricio Pitbull, you know, losing in his UFC debut on
a spot where he could have gone over maybe become
a title contender. Does this play into that that thread

(52:35):
at all?

Speaker 1 (52:35):
I mean, I think to a degree it does.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
People overstated because the problem with the argument is that
they made it for Strikeforce and it was totally untrue.
They made it for WEC and it was totally untrue.
The leaders and trust me, they were saying if you
were like you weren't a round back then I was,
and they were saying the exact same things. So partly
you roll your eyes a little bit at it, however,
you know, and also too, like Kayla Harrison came from PFL.
She's three, you know, when she's a champion, you know,

(53:00):
there's people you can point to that have done well.
But for the beltour guys, yeah, it hurts a little bit. Again,
you got you got post Prime pit Bull and he
did rescue himself against Danny Gay, but it.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Has he's doing something vs.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
VP's out there, you know, making some noise and a
little bit kind of stuff. But in in other words,
I will say this, By the time that Bellatour was created,
the difference between UFC and Strike Force was not nearly
as pronounced as the difference between UFC and Bellatore, and
so you wouldn't want to say, oh, because he fought
in Beltour, he can't compete. They also match made a
real tough let's be honest about that. But but there

(53:34):
is I think, you know, it's not a it's not
a yeah, there's a difference.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
I mean, I think the Michael Chandler experience overall is
a success story as an.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Expels promotionally, it's a big success story. A lot of
guys got nice wins off of him, you know, multiple times,
and his two wins the hooker and Ferguson win are
devastating KOs.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Yes, and he's been in countless Fight of the Year contenders.
It's it's like a it's like a holiday when he's
fighting that you know you're going to get an absolute
brawl against a fellow veteran, So close out the comain.
Let's go to topic number three, which was the rest
of the UFC three nineteen main card, which produced some
really big finishes, and none more than the first of
back to back spinning elbowkos, only this time it was

(54:13):
from a refurbished Carlos Protest, fresh off that lost to
Ian Matchatto Gary Over in their sort of number one
contenders about or at least it felt a quasi version
of that where he looked bad early good late. He
came in and you can tell he did the hard
work in terms of the cardio squaring off against Jeff Neil,
overwhelming him a bit early with the striking, but once

(54:34):
he started to pick away, hurt Neil and then set
him up for that devastating spinning back elbow that Lord
Neil blood coming out of the side of his head. Luke,
how redemptive was this? Does this erase? And he stepped
back against Gary and now make him look better than ever.
And oh, by the way, still flawing the cigarettes like
not even you know, like kids, this is how you

(54:58):
can get ahead, just like me, and like yo, I'm
gonna be drinking for three to four days before I started.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Fucking Bill Hicks, the fucking Bill Hicks of UFC.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Yeah, only it's cool. It's it's fucking cool as shit too.
This guy's on fire.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
The aura man, well, Bill Hicks was pretty cool. But
to your point, this is huge. You know, you don't
want to overstate one thing. I still think BCEE people
are going to look at Carlos protests and they're going
to say, well, there might be some other questions about
exactly how good he can be. But what I loved
in this fight is not just that he had that
devastating win BC. He was setting it up the whole time,

(55:31):
how creatively and how massively he was spreading out his
targets of attack, leg kick, front kick, a jab, cross,
uppercut hook.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
He's not just being power right, He's putting the game.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
He's going ahead body leg, leg, head, body, He's just
mixing it up. And then finally, you know, like the
fighting nerds do, they put a little bit of sauce
on that before they serve it to you, and it's tremendous.
So what I'm saying is people will focus on the
finish and be like, wasn't that great? Sure, but the
stuff he was doing before that to really create huh,
wasn't that great? You know I'm saying they will say,

(56:03):
wasn't that great the stuff he was doing? Yeah, yes,
of course it was. But I'm saying the stuff in
the lead up to it, with the targets diversity and
the striking diversity, that's what I wanted to see and
that's what enable to finish and dude, no one has
put out Jeff Neil with that.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Men shows you like he's even more dangerous than maybe
we thought.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
I think he's going to learn the lessons from not
not sticking to the game plan and that I and
Gary fight and freestyling maybe a little bit too much,
but he's not going to stop smoking cigarettes. This of
protests at the presser afterwards was just it was our.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Team fighting nerds went three and oh today, so I guess, uh,
how's the team back there after Karine's wins. He looks
like a mechanic and you know, I don't know pick
any part of any any what you want to call,
like any junkyard filled with the scraps.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Dude, Should they in your eyes, given that the UFC
really doesn't silence or police people, you can say what
you want. You can almost do what you want. Should
they give him the Ricardo my Orga treatment and allow
him in the post fight interviews in the cage, yes,
to light up right there and sort of not worry
about the message and all that.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Just like, yes, yes they should?

Speaker 2 (57:09):
They mean he's living the life, dude. He said he's
gonna need to party for four days before he even
talks about his next week.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Well, we got a little footage of that too, but
h yes, they should, they should absolutely lean into this. Yes,
oh my.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
God, here's Carlos Protest partying afterwards.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
That's me after three margaritas, except no one's cheering for me.
The whole show time.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Staff would all right, dude, Long Island look from like
the hardcore fans favorite fighters, like did he just make
the bleeper there?

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yeah? And I was rooting, not rooting.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
I was on Jeff Neil though in this fight, and
I gotta say all week, I was like, Carlos Protest
might be one of my favorite fighters.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
He's fucking great. It's great.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
That was I mean, Jeff Neils hard. It's hard to
do that too, dude. He looked like damn, I mean
he was.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Yeah, and those the other part two.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Did you guys not notice that Jeff Neil looked so
much faster than him?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Yes, when it was competitive early and before Protests started
to find his mark, And though, I mean that's a did.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
You guys see that clip after Neil gets finished of
Remi's brahimage in the crowd? No, No, Gilbert Burns was
like obviously recording something, and Gilbert was miked up and
Remize starts yelling.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Say fucking ruined his career.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
Savee Salud and it was and Remize is a four
disc guy too. I don't I don't know any details behind.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
It, but maybe or maybe was.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
That's a really inside baseball there in the MMA. Jim
war as Wow, Luke, let's continue on down the card
to now middleweight, but he is open and going back
to welterway and that's Michael ven and Page. Excuse me.
I thought he might come into trouble against a forty
one year old Jared cannoneer who was figuring out how
to how to really use his toughness and his brawling
ability to his advantage. Like the last fight against Hobokop,

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this went much differently, as not only MVP was able
to do MVP things, but with a noticeably bigger body
which didn't slow him down at all. He was even
able to drop Cannon near a couple times, land clip
combinations and almost just clown him. Ultimately afterwards, MVP is
talking about the idea of a return to welterweight, the
potential of a quick turnaround against who's he uh link

(59:11):
to now it's falling out of my memory. He wanted
who did he call out afterwards?

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Who MVP? Well, there was a talk of him fighting
protest That's.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah, who we were just talking about exactly. I was
like I was missing it in real time there. What
do you make first of this victory? And do you
think the welterweight path or the eighty eight five path
could be more fruitful here?

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Well, I mean I don't really, I don't. I don't
know the answer to that because I feel like any
kind of true escalation in either direction is impossible. You know,
you're not gonna beat Rochmanov. You're not going to beat
Sean Brady at one seventy. It's just not going to happen.
There's other ones you can probably, I mean already fought
eting Gary.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
So you can give your name for money against protests.
But you do have a shot of beating that guy.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yes, for sure him, for sure him.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
But at eighty five, look who's at the top there,
Hamzat's up there and Fluffy's up there. Like those guys
are fucking nightmare for MVP. So like the ultimate destination
is not really achievable in either direction. So which direction
do you go? I would say, whichever one gives you
the most fun fights on a time agreeable to your calendar,
and you know, to an extended money changes depending on

(01:00:15):
the matchup.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Do that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
I honestly don't think it really matters too much beyond that,
because how far can you actually go? By the way,
is not far from forty himself. He's getting up there
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Said in the cage before the protest conversation really got
going that if I can get another fun off r
at middleweight like this, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

Speaker 14 (01:00:31):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
There are a lot of big names coming down.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Yes, there's that as well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
So to me, it's like, listen, as long as you
can stay in fun relevant fights on big cards. If
it's one seventy, do that. If it's one eighty five,
do that. But I don't think there has to be.
It's not much more complicated than that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
So the protest quick turnaround would be in Brazil. That
would be crazy to fight that dude in Brazil. Wow,
here's MVP taking to the mic and talking about which
veteran middleweight he might prefer to fight next.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
If that falls through, you just beat the number nine
guy at middleweight.

Speaker 8 (01:01:01):
I'm gonna throw a couple of names at you and
you tell me what you think about it. We got
we got Robert Whittaker and we got Sean Strickland.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
What do you think about those two?

Speaker 16 (01:01:08):
Either one? Robert Witz I'm a massive fan of I
love his style. I love his just how he fights
up and down. What a great fight, you know the
similarities in our styles.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
What a great fight.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Strickland is just a beastive work for it.

Speaker 16 (01:01:24):
He's gonna want to just take those shots, but again,
a great fight. I want big names, I want big fights,
and you just named two people.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
I'm one hundred percent in.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
The Strickland fight could be wild. Strickland would take those
shots and keep coming on. He would be the Forest
Griffin to the Anderson Silva.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
That would be a hell of a difference too, with
one guy marching him down and kind of deflecting the
other guy just having to leap in all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Okay, what about the ultimate Spider meme man meme fight
MVP versus Izzy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
I don't know that they would boys.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
They said they would only fight if there was a
shitload quote unquote shipload of money on the table.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
And also that they would kind of circle and not
commit right if it would be like the ultimate.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
I mean is he is definitely not going to like
bite down on the mouthpiece against a guy like that.
You know he's gonna play it smart. So if they
wouldn't make it, I wouldn't hate it. It just seems unlikely.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Especially compared to the other potential opportunities there. Hey, good
win for MVP, and we'll see. He'll have his offers.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Right now, I will say.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Because his game is so predicated on speed and reflexes,
I thought he would have fallen off by now, but.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
He has found some interesting longevity. You got to give
him credit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
A threat with that extra speed event.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
He is much faster than these guys. It's very very pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
I mean, do you think he was hitting harder. He
was just landing so clean, so quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I think his punches have almost like a pushing effect,
because when you watch the replay, they do make like
pretty good contact. But he's not like whipping people's chins
past their shoulder. He's more like hitting them and then
they lose their balance and the process and then they
get back up. So it's like the charging almost has
like a pushing effect.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
That's the point.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
So he does kind of fight in like like ban
the old Batman TV show when he'd punch it on
the screen like Powell.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Yeah, it's called automnopia.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Yeah, he he fights in a very automnopius. So I like, hey,
how about thirty eight year old Tim Elliott kicking off
the main card against a kaya Osakura who had lost
his UFC debut but in a title fight against Pantosia
two years removed. This veteran Tim Elliott, of course, was
caught up in that weird divorce love triangle on Twitter.
Put all that away, came back and was in probably

(01:03:25):
the best shape of his career. Was dynamic at times,
fought smart at times, and then he goes in there
and gets a damn submission victory over kai Osakura. Luke.
This was a flowing Tim Elliott who had longer haired
during the press things this week, shaved it off and
then sat in the corner as the cameras came to
him after the victory and was like like A g

(01:03:46):
was like, I love this shit. It felt good to
see the old guy get the win. But like the
old guy looked maybe as good as he looks since
the Demetrius Johnson.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Fight, very impressive and at first too, you know, I thought,
okay Osakora lost a pantoe. All right, well that's pantoja,
you know what I mean, like what you're gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
But he shows up here and Elliott at first is
doing you know, in like far weird shit. Yeah, and
I didn't love it, But what if you watch the
final sequence. Well, if you watch the final sequence, you
got Asakora, who is prone to charge at times, charging
and he's able to get underneath that for the takedown,
and then he just had basically superior grappling from there

(01:04:26):
on out. Like I'm not I don't know to what
extent he baited him, but it looked like he baited
him a little bit or it kind of encouraged him
to go into a little bit more of a defensively
vulnerable charge.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Dude, he's crafty.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Like tim Elle was one of the first guys, by
the way, and I say this not pejoratively tim Elle.
It was one of the first guys being like, I'm
definitely gonna foul people a couple of times about because
they don't they don't take a point, so why wouldn't you?
And I'm like, right, that's exactly right, Like why the
fuck wouldn't you? He plays the game BC in a
way where you think, oh, well he's not very good
because he plays the game that way. But it turns

(01:04:57):
out like in certain dimensions he does actually have pretty
considerable skill and he'll play it in a veteran way.
He didn't need to do that so much in this
particular sense. But again, all of those like you know,
doing the robot shit, I think it threw off Osacura
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
And look at the result.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
He'll deserve a pretty high rank guy after this win.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
I mean it was very redempt and also for people
being like, oh, well Demetrius didn't beat you know, he
beat tim Ellia. How good is it Timilia? Tim Elliot's
pretty fucking good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Actually, he's definitely traded wins and losses in ways that
made him you know, journeymen or gatekeeper level in recent years.
But this was a step up, in a very step through,
step forward victory.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Although Osacura coming from Rise and has been a huge.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Disappointment, well that's the flip side of it. So how
big of a disappointment. I mean it puts him into
the middle of the pack or worse. It's it's not
something that you know, two to three consecutive wins can't fix.
But I also wasn't impressed ultimately with his ability to
find ways to exert dominant's dominance in the face of
Elliott's awkwardness. I mean he had significant trouble with that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Yes, now, there's simply no question he didn't really know
how to deal with it, to be honest with you.
And he's a good puncher and he can be a
good wrestler, but I don't know, he's been disappointing in
his UFC run.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Yeah, Long Island. Look, can you can you give me
confidence that Kyle will bounce back?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
I think he's still a viable option. How about like
hi Ver Steve Ver sig. That sounds fun to me.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
I think it's a winnable fight for both guys. Both
guys kind of need I mean, I know Steve just won,
but he still needs like a little little bump up,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
I mean the loser gets really set back, but that's
why those fights happened.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Yeah, I mean, the loser would be in terrible position
at that point. But you can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Where's Ascar, ask Grovel? We need him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
He's with Zabeat hanging out, hanging out the winner circle. Conrad.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
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he a household name in your household?

Speaker 9 (01:07:36):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
I don't think anyone in my household knows who he is, okay,
and what's in any capacity whatsoever?

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Does he look as Doofie as Uncle Eli or.

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Edgend know if he doesn't look as doofee as as
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Okay, but your Valdosta background tells you to vote SEC
this year.

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We're you know, like I'm always one of these guys
who they over complicated. They're like, Oregon's good this year,
Penn State's good this year, and I'm like, yeah, you
know what, I bet Alabama's better.

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Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Well said Luke, right there, Well done.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
I can read yes in the English language as well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Let's keep it going, though. Topic number four takes us
to what else happened at UFC three nineteen on the
prelims and early prelims. Hey, how about Chase Hooper bringing
that five fight win streak at lightweight and really becoming
a prospect until he ran into Alexander Hernandez and he
ran into him in a big way. I think it's
fair to really call out the lack of striking in
this one by Hooper because he was getting pieced up

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and then he got lit up with one second to
go in the first round. How improved is Alexander Hernandez,
who we've seen at this level before, we seen him
fall apart before. This looked like the best of him
all over again.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
I don't know, because Chase Hooper's Chase Hooper is massively
improved and he looked huge by the way this fight too,
Like this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Wasn't massively improved. But now it's Hernandez on the three fightin.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
And by the way, he's been in the UFC for like,
I don't know how many years now and they're almost ten,
not quite maybe, and this is his first three fight
win streak.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Keep that in mind.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
That's actually kind of nuts that it took me this
long to get it, especially since his first two fights
in the UFC were back to back knockout wins yep
over Aom and Benil dry USh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
But wait, wasn't the Oam a decision or you know,
it was a big win, but the dar USh one
was a big ko.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Did the callers just change in here?

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Yeah? They did just change in here way to go,
all right, it was Ken's fault.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Sorry, somebody's got gummies in there, tum and they came
to work anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I think it's a prerequisite.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Yeah, what I was gonna say, I don't know if
I learned a whole lot new. I mean, he comes prepared,
he fights more disciplined, and he fights smarter, and we
saw evidence of that, but Chase super like I have
to go back and review the tape, but it felt
to me like his mechanics he did the Benson Henderson
jab where they lead with the elbow and then extend
like they're doing a triceep flex, which is inherently a
much slower way to reach a target, and that's where

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he got countered.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
And it's like, so it's more about Chase Hooper falling apart,
so destructive not or disastrously it is probably.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
The better word. I need to double check.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
I haven't gone back and rewatched this fight enough to
declare exactly what got him into trouble, but I feel
like he was getting timed and therefore that's how he
got countered.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
So it's a good job.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
It's a good job by Hernandez. But if a guy's
got big defensive flaws. You got to be a little
bit careful about overstating the upside.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
I think I have video that could prove the reason
why he got caught Long Island. Look are you able
to pull that Chase Hooper video from? Have you seen
this ship?

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Yeah? Do you know what number it is?

Speaker 17 (01:11:37):
Number?

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
I don't know. I mean, look at shit, you know
how about it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
You should have seen the out house?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Yeah, I forget it all right?

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Well you should have seen you should have seen the
porta potty I went to at the Arlington Fair. That's
I don't want to it looked like the inside looked
like the cover of a Cannibal Corpse album.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Really don't like this conversation? Uh luke lupy Godinias went
in there in a pretty good all action back and
forth with Yessica Androge. I was entertained who Dinyaz would
get the close nod on the scorecards? How ready is
the Mexican for a title shot at Straw? You're not serious,
are you?

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
I don't know?

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
But that was a pretty good performance, don't you agree?
I mean, here's what I was gonna say, Like Loopy
was teeing off on her using great footwork, clearly landed
the more impactful strikes despite the one being on the
back foot for the majority of that bout. And I thought,
in general, just fought a really smart, uh and you know,
offensively capable contest. What stood out to me, though, BC

(01:12:36):
was less you know, okay, definitely impressed with Godinaz's two
wins in a row though, so I'm not exactly exactly,
but here's the thing for me, Jessica Androge looks like
she's given up a little bit. And what I mean
by that is not that she doesn't go in there
and try to win. She does, but it doesn't look
like she is attempting to technically improve at all. Right,
you go in there and you watch her. She's still

(01:12:57):
throwing these like wild ass arm punches well into round three.
And that doesn't mean she's not dangerous. We know she
can punch, we know she's strong. But it does mean
that if you take a more technical approach, and you
have a good game plan and you're a great athlete
slash wrestler, slash you know, play the levels like Godinez,
this is a very winnable contest for you. And she
has no She's Androge, no ability to then make adjustments thereafter,

(01:13:20):
like she's just right, like it looks at me like
she's made a decision, being like, Okay, this is my
skill set, this is my athletic ability, this is just
what it's going to be. And if this wins me
a fight, great, If it doesn't win me a fight,
it'll win me the next one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
I don't know how much I love that from her.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
I'm with you on that. It has been very back
and forth. We did have video. I've missed it on
the rundown. I see it now on Alexander Hernandez to
close that book, here's Hernandez explaining why he's been able
to turn it back around and win three in a row.

Speaker 18 (01:13:49):
But I've been a really good mental state too, right now.
You know, I had like big balls and advertised dick
when I first came in here, just like super Hubris,
you know. And now I feel like I've leveled out
and I've got like a good level head on my shoulders,
and I know how to lie. I know how to
be in the game, you know what I'm saying. And
so now now now I know how to like I
know what I'm a vet now and so I feel
like I can execute on my on my plans, my words.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Better do you feel like of this?

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
That was tremendous? Now analysis you didn't prepare me for that, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
That's why I picked that one, because I was like,
BC's gonna love this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Wow, what was that I got?

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
I had big balls, had an average sized hog something
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Oh, that was fantastic. So that is that's that tells
that story of him coming back. I mean, he's always
a fun fighter. So I want to see that. I
want to see Loop Loopy get an opportunity here to
climb these rankings because beating jess Kondrodge at this point
still matters, even though she's becoming an over forty Dan
Henderson who just stands through with the right hand cocked.
You know, she doesn't move ahead, I mean at all, Luke,

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after all these years and winning a championship.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
And I think she's given up a little bit, like
I'm just gonna be who I am and that's what
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Shut up and enjoy it. Yeah, and she's still ranked,
by the way. Let's go over to thirty nine year
old Edson Barbosa who went in there against Drakar Close
and it's certainly the the end of times in a
lot of ways for Barbosa, but he's been coming in
great shape. He's still been fighting good fighters. He had
lost to Laron Murphy by decision last time out, only
this time, Luke, he took a lot of punishment against

(01:15:08):
jer car Clos. Were you shocked?

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Edson looked bad? He looked bad.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
I mean he still looks like physically. You look at
him and you're like, wow, he's jacked.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
You know, he had that two fight win streak not
too long ago when he killed Billy Q and then
he beat Sadik Yusav.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Yeah, but then you know, he goes down to forty
five and he goes three and three.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
It didn't really change his fortunes.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
So he comes back to fifty five and jacar Clos
is a good fighter. But it felt like you heard
Daniel Cormier talking about it, like it just looked like
Barboza's reactions to getting hit. We're just they're concerning dide.
You look at the amount of abuse that this dude
has taken in his career and it's extraordinary. And now
he's starting to move in a very lumbered way.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
It's getting there it's getting to the end, I.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Think for me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
So jacar Clos did the right thing. He had like
this pressure boxing style and it broke through. He did
his job.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
Great, great win for him, But I'm a little concerned
for Barboza.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Did you side anywhere on what I thought was a
pretty good women's flyweight out with Karini Silva and Dione Barbosa,
But a lot of people had issues with the scoring.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Yeah, I thought the score, How did you score that
one long round?

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
Louke Barboza definitely won that fight. That was pretty shocking
when Karine got her hand raised. But I did have
Karne by decision, so I'll take.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Oh on the bet, Yeah you did.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
You did the You did the the two way hedge,
like you lack one person to win, but then you
bet the other way.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
So another Just ask me how I scored it. When
I was watching it, I thought, damn, Karine lost.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
I lost my I was like, oh, yeah, I thought
this was a I thought Barboza looked pretty good, had
some good judo, some good top control, good jab for
long portions of this, some pretty good pressure throughout.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
But scoring was fucking weird.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Oh let's talk about me. How Olek shay shock that middleweight.
Two fights now with the Fighting Nerds, two camps and
he's got two wins, but none more disarming than this
big time ko of GM three, Gerald Meyershower.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Who's looking a little old too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
He was looking a little old. Then some guy at
the postfight press conference was like Pepper and Dana of like,
you're gonna make this guy retire? Like, you know, like
is this it for him? Should he be taking shots
like that? Look he got folded? How much of this
is about me Hal going to a new camp? He'd
been through wars, he'd won something, he'd lost him. He
does look refocused, sharper, and more dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
He just looks more confident.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
It looks like he knows he can do more things,
so it opens him up. He's not so focused on
one way or the other. You know, is he beating
guys that tell you like, oh wow, he's completely revolutionized
this game.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
We don't know that yet.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
This is a great win, a super solid name, certainly,
but the ease with which he dispatched him both tells
me that I feel like Olak Shishek has really leaned
into what the Fighting Nerds have given him. Yeah, but
at the same time, I feel like Meershar. You know again,
I didn't love the body language taking punishment.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
He's got like eighteen losses too, Like he's been short.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Yeah, he's been through it, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
I may be off by thirty seven years old, which
is not a death sentence. Yeah, thirty seven and twenty
he is, Oh my god, Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
He's been through it. We got to talk in that
same division though. What was the featured prelim middleweight Bisingar
Susa Kayev, who had won on Tuesday night stain a
White Contender series trains with Chamaiev, got the opportunity on
four days notice against a very game Eric Nolan, who
was in a different weight class too, and stepped up
in the end. It would be at the end of
the round two that bison Ger would score this submission.

(01:18:15):
He did get hit cleanly a few times. What do
you make overall? It wasn't perfect. It was thrown together
last minute. There was a lot against him, but also
a lot going for him. I think overall this felt
like a win to show you that this guy feels
like he's a savage and he's ready to over.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Yeah, but he was getting tuned up a little bit
by a guy who's not even a natural middleweight, He's
more of a welterweight.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Did they do how much were you scared by that?

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
On his future?

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
Um?

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
I mean I wouldn't say that, Oh my god, now
I'm panicking about him long term. But what I would
say is, hey, we're not going to do the Homsat
thing where we just rushed this guy to the front,
are we? Because it looks to me like he does
have considerable ability, But it also looks to me like
there's some things that could be tightened up, and we
have no need to rush him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Let's not rush him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
I agree with that, but want to see more of him,
and I want to see more of him soon. He
talked about making another quick turn around as well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
As long as it's appropriate, you know, a level of competition.
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
I hear you on that one. Anything else you want
to point to on this?

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Joseph Morales won the Ultimate Fighter? Are great? Does it
matter anymore?

Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:19:14):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
There you go, now, Luke, you got anything to say?

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
It was an upset for Joseph Morales also another UFC
veteran to win tough. I think that's like the second
season in a round.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Yeah, that tells you the show is doing great now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Yeah, all right, coming to Paramount very soon probably. No, Actually,
it's not that. In the Dana White Contender.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Series, do and we don't know about Road to UFC
do not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Have TV homes? Did you hear that was? Did I
hear accurately that Paramount chose to pay more to not
have to take the power slab?

Speaker 13 (01:19:40):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
I think I actually heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
I think I actually heard They're like, we hate that
so fucking much. We're gonna give you money to stop
asking if that's true. Like, hell yeah, dude, nobody wants
that shit. Hell yeah, nobody else?

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Right, Wow, loved it all right? Topic number five, Hey,
the heavyweight division is has a new hope certainly and
uh twenty year old Moses Etauma who stepped up his
level of competition aggressively in the form of thirty seven
year old Dillion White in just his thirteenth pro fight.
But now we will continue to have this discussion of

(01:20:12):
is he ready should he go for it all now
with undisputed champion Alexander Usik because it took less than
one round and the ease in which Moses Atama hurt
Dillian White backed him into the ropes, and then was
both patient and aggressive at the same time. Somehow and
just how he lit up White with combinations dropped him
once White stumbled upon beating the ten count, fell into

(01:20:35):
the ropes and the fight was waved off. Luke Thomas,
I know there's always gonna be that cynical part of boxing.
Twitter and they were out there saying, well, yeah, White
was old and stop fighting bombs like blah blah blah blah.
I don't know how that is your reaction. I know
we don't know yet about the chin, about the twelve
round stadmin, about all that stuff. I'm not saying it
has to be usick next. But are you not entertained?

(01:20:57):
Are you not excited? This kid is a PHENI offensively.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
He's the Tom aspinall of heavyweight boxing, except he doesn't
put his chin in the air.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
He's much craftier. He is much dude. I watched this fight.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
I turned it on because I was actually in my
office and then I saw on Twitter They're like, oh,
they're doing ring walks now, So I pulled the fight
up and I'm watching this dude.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
I cannot overstate.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
To you the ease with which he dispatched Dillian White,
not just when you can see like, oh, he landed
two punches compy boxes two punches that White landed, and
then of course that it only went a couple of
minutes basically. But I'm just saying, when you watch him,
he would effortlessly faint.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Dude. Can I say this about mosesy Toma.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
People are like, oh, you have to faint to set
something up, but not everyone like fainting itself is a skill.
You have to sell it, and there's a level of
salesmanship and how good you can make it. Dude, the salesmanship.
You had White looking at that, bringing his hands all
the way down because the combos are so fast, so fast,
and he's able to take these like big hard steps
because he's athletically can shift his weight back and forth,

(01:21:57):
so you of course you think it's coming. And then, dude,
here's part two. He'll do that, get a reaction, go
to the body, and then get a tiny reaction, yeah,
and then build off that immediately, so he's able to
make immediate reads and build, build, build, bill build. He's
the best heavyweight prospect in all of combat. Sports buy
a million miles. He's fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
He is so dynamic offensively it's ridiculous. And it seems
like at least seventy five percent of his combos have
a body shot in it. Sometimes he leaves with me, sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
It ends with it, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
So he is constantly leaving you perplexed where he is
going to have a chance to knock out early a
ton of elite heavyweights. So like, that's the real question
of like how much is too much too soon? For
all the talk coming in about Usik after the win Utama,
it wasn't like he said he hasn't wanted. He kept
saying the fans can decide, and then he said, like, look,

(01:22:52):
you know, he reiterated that Joseph Parker and Ajik Kabayel
are more deserving, but he's willing to enter the negotiation
and put his name in the hat. But then you
started to hear his team, particularly coach Ben Davison, who's
still just twenty eight himself, by the way, and has
already coached Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua in big time
heavyweight championship fights. Luke, Now they're talking about, well, we

(01:23:12):
would actually like him to get some rounds. First, they
mentioned Jermaine Franklin, a veteran in this division who lost
to Dillion White a couple of fights ago, that that
potentially could give him a round. Some people are thinking
Derek Chesora, you know a lot of names being thrown around,
Deontay Wilder. What do you do here? He wants it
and is willing to fight Usik. Has he proved that
he's ready? No, is he was like the maybe the

(01:23:35):
only one that could really really exploit and expose him.
Hard to say because we've never seen We've never seen
him past six rounds as a pro, and now eleven
of his thirteen fights in total have not gotten out
of round two.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
So what do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
It's an attraction fight. Turkey wants it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
He came out after it. Turkey is saying a bunch
of bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
There is no good reason to make the Sick fight
except you just want to rush a guy because he's
he is brilliant and he is interesting. But the notion
that like you can just put him in front of
Usick and listen Etauma is dangerous enough where I think
he on the right day, in the right moment, he
could potentially beat any.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Heavyweight in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
However, the risk you could run with him getting tuned
up by USK over the course of you know, six
rounds or more is also real, and it makes no
sense to do that. He needs a class of heavyweight
guys who are young enough just to give him rounds
b see and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
Then not even like, let's not even go du Bois level.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
I would not even go to yet give me yeah, exactly,
Like I know that the pressure is all there to
rush him because you've got oh my god, you can
tell what the.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Future is going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Keep him busy, but give him the right names, give
him heavyweights that can push him past six and really
make him have to lean on it and earn it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
That's what he mean.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Mike taught you that because there were actually guys that
pushed him to ten and twelve rounds. Where you're like, oh,
you know what I mean, Like, he can't beat Mike
Tyson's record for the youngest heavyweight. That's twenty years and
four months. Tom will be twenty one in December, So
I get what you're saying. There's no need to rush it.
What about somewhere in between? What about Big Bang.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Jiang you could do it. You can.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
You may not get rounds anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
You may yeah, I mean he might do. The speed
difference between him and bang is going to be significant.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Big a bang.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
Yeah, you know he's going to bang them. They're gonna
have sex.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Yeah, I cannot believe have sex. Let's go to some
videos here. First we have Toama's father laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Is this what we Yeah, you gotta listen to this.
Listen to this ship the man responsible?

Speaker 8 (01:25:38):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Mom? He said, giant? Can I answer your questions?

Speaker 13 (01:25:44):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Get you regret it that?

Speaker 5 (01:25:46):
Please?

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Oh you'll have about the waterlock?

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
My guy?

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
Yeah, he's he's uh, he's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Dude, Come on you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
I love him.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
But even if he was, like if he was like
our sidekick, you know how like inside the NBA eventually
brought on check and we're like, we'll work with.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
The chemistry is let me tell you something. I've had
to take car rides.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
With Garrett while he is a close talker, and he
will share details you absolutely did not ask for.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Here is Moses Atalma himself, reacting to this wind, talking
about the.

Speaker 19 (01:26:13):
Future because you know what, like a lot of people
think that I want to be a superstar. A lot
of people think that I like the bright lights, that
I just like being a boxer. It's something that I've
always done. I've been doing it since I was nine
years old. So if I don't do it, I feel
out of place. I don't feel comfortable with myself. So
I'm not doing it to be a superstar or whatnot.

(01:26:33):
Even Michael Buffer did came up to me that it
came up to me after the fight. It's at Wembley next.
I'm not bothered whether I fight in Wembley and you'll
call whatnot. I just know that I need to box.
I know that I need to do it. If not,
then I don't feel comfortable with myself.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
All right, I don't need the music fight next, but
I do wonder what Turkey's hard on for it will mean?
Can Frank Warren talk him out of it? If that's now,
I don't even want yourmine, Franklin, because I don't think
Frank that fight. I would one in between where you're like, okay,
if this person does push him to round six seventy,
then at least we're learning something.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Yeah, yeah, So it doesn't have to be Franklin and Wild.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
They're wild they're going to get well, that's a terrible
he'll fucking smoke Wilder. Yeah, somebody who can push him
a little is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
What you need. That's it a Valeen.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
I take that, even though AJ sent him to the deepest, darkest.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
I take that. I take that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
He also but he's a bit chinny and this is
going to have a speed problem.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
So here's promoter Frank Warren of Queensberry talking about what
could be next.

Speaker 11 (01:27:30):
It's a statement. You know, nobody's ever done that to
doing And you look at what the fighters he's been
with over the years. You look at the condition he
come in at. He was very confident. And you know
when you look at these losses, they've been in to
real good quality fighters, world championship fights, and look at
the hard fights he's given people to fight. And then

(01:27:52):
you look at this twenty year old who've got in
there and just done something special. It doesn't say something
now that you know he's like and the amount of
fights he said.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Right, you're calling him reptilian that, but he's got these
bug eyes like it's like, dude, I think you need
a good night's sleep, my man.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Yeah, then you can figure out who's next. But hey,
breakthrough win for a tama. Let's keep him busy. Let's
keep this coming. Let's transition out from our five topics
to you the fan, because every Sunday night at morning
combat on X and the IG we give you an
opportunity to potentially be heard, especially if your name is
Flannels and JITs or dazz when you used to mahalo

(01:28:28):
are ass Hey, this one's called d MS from the
Diggity donks. Well, that sounds like forced masturbation, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
That sounds like me when I get on X hamp
don't get on anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Please, let's hear the first question here. Do we got
or see it from Flannels and just Yes, that guy's
got great jesuit's Luke. Do you think someone like Craig
Jones will be able to have a good strategy for
to counteract homsat spat.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Yep, I'm telling you the fact that DDP spent all
of these times stuck in control positions is going to
give people like Craig Jones, and not just him but
others a sense of just reverse engineer.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
What do you do to have to prevent this?

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
And what do you have to do once you're here
to get to some kind of next place that you
have to be. They're going to figure it out. I'm
telling you what.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
If ank Elijah beats Herrera in the rematch, do you
not see Chamaiah looking to uh?

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
I think Uncliah mops up. Tamaiah mops up is an
aggressive way to say.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
I don't think JAMIAV has I don't think JAMIAV can
win three rounds against him.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
No, And do you think it's likely the UFC would
allow him to go to welterweight? No? They want to
protect Ilia Islam like they should, right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
Yeah, I mean right now is they're gonna I mean
Islam as there are, you know, top guy in many respects,
and I think they're going to give him some.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Would you argue that Tamaiah's best potential blockbuster fight is
Herrera if he if he wins back the.

Speaker 10 (01:29:49):
Two O five.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
I think the biggest one he's got now is honest
Strickland probably, but like in terms of like a real
threat to him, yeah, but also.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
A fight with real meaning him trying to become a
two division champion. Not that I'm saying you have you
should do it soon. Middleweight, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
I think Uncle Ave might win. Well, I guess we'll see.
I don't know what's gonna happen else.

Speaker 8 (01:30:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
I don't know, Cedar, Let's hear from this person, A
man and his cat. He says, why does it seem
that so many fighters in this generation have an issue
coming from other promotions to the UFC. We talked about
it recently from the Bellator PFL guys. But history has
shown mixed results across the board in all of the mergers,
as you said.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
Earlier, Yeah, but also, like you know, multiple champions came
from the Strikeforce merger, multiple champions came from the WC merger.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Would you say the UFC, like New York City, is
just a melting pot of different cultures coming together.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
Uh, different background, yes, although less New York, less racist
than MMA culture, but which is amazing if you think.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
About It's true.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
But I would just say that again.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
I think that because UFC is in a different place
than it was eleven. No, the Strikeforce merger was what,
like I mean basically thirteen fourteen years ago, a long
time ago. MMA was in a different place at that time,
and I just think now you're just getting much more
of the Championship caliber kind of pooling in and around UFC.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
So yeah, I was on a car ride to the
Mohican Sun to cover a belitar card when that news
broke which one oh the UFC purchasing Strike Force?

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
I was, I was.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
I just got out of the shower and I looked
at my phone and I was like, what the fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
That's funny because you've always said, of all the things
that happened in your life, you always remember where you
were in two spots when UFC bought Strike Forces and
nine to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
Unfortunately, I was in my college dorm room. Yeah, I mean,
I didn't mean to bring down the mood unit E.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
I really didn't. On the row, Ok, yeah, I think
I have good shit to for today. It's only you
can judge that. I mean, I'm on fire lately.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Fire is a strong word. All right, Well, you've won
a couple of rounds.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
Let's see the next DM from Pentameter nine. As someone
in attendance, I thought that this card overall was great,
crazy and plentiful matchups, A very hype crowd, I'll give them.
The main event was let down, but a major ce change.
What is your pick for card? Of the year so far.
I'm assuming he means in the UFC pay per view.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
That's a question for Long Island, Luke. I don't know
what the answer to that would be.

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
What would be if W three seventeen that card was Bangers.
I didn't even I was camping. I watched it the
next day.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Oh, you're right, that was Ilia and Charles.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
What was the command on that? I can't prosia?

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
What was the other attraction on that?

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
Yeah, Peyton Talbot Diego Lima was Josh Van Brandon roy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Val Yes, okay that, Yes, I was in the studio
in Stanford on HQ for that fight, like I was.
I remember just feeling that like if the fights can
all be if the cards can be like that?

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Yeah, that was it, and then Ilia came and just
fucking lowered the boot. Uh yeah, I think the main
event was a letdown, but he's right. I think overall
the card was pretty great.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
Yeah, yeah, well done.

Speaker 8 (01:32:54):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
We've got another one from the d MS. This is
from Stephen Armitt m Steve Armitt age eighty nine or
Stephen Armitage or Steven Armpitt. I'm not really sure who
laid the bigger egg. Cyril Gone versus Jones or Dillian
White versus he t Wow, that's pretty close.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
Gone Gone was more selfish.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Gone just Gon just looked helpless by making bad choices.
White looked helpless at the you know, in front of
a pack of wolves, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Like I love when when Dana's retelling history and he's
like John Jones just be the baddest heavyweight active alive
and Cyril Gone, he'd always like throw that extra line.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
And you know, yeah, No, Gone Gon's decision making is
or White was just dude, he had no chance just
seeing what just seeing what Etama did to him, It's like,
you were never gonna win this fucking fight.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Yeah, I'm with you on that one. Our final DM
question comes from a donk named.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Taekwon Do no Taekwan Dude memes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Taekwon dude memes. I mean, it's hard to figure these out. Look,
you know it, It is kind of hard. Why do
MMA fans get so defensive when people point out that
some cards are absolute nubs? Fans of the other sports
I follow are always quick to declare some games as
bad and don't lose fan status. Is that because fans
of those sports sometimes aren't concerned with the trade jectory

(01:34:14):
of the sport as much because sometimes in the fight game,
like you are even as a promotion, only as good
as your last free cards sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Right, fight sports will always occupy a place where the
degree to which they entertained you will hold more importance
than they will in other sports. It's simply the reality
and more sport in other sports, particularly ones where there
are points involved, you know, the amount that is paid
to just did you get the dub? Did you not
get the dub? These are the things that they really count.

(01:34:42):
Combat sports is an entertainment business. It's real sport, but
it's an entertainment business, and there's just always going to
be more focus on to what degree was the audience entertained.
Your answers will vary, it will matter more to some
less to others, but that general concern is always going
to be higher here there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Still, we could use a few more American champions and a.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
Few more would be nice, wouldn't it. You know?

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
I mean, I think you can say both things, you can,
you know, you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
Know, it's one thing we didn't discuss about in the
UFC paramounting. I was thinking about the UFC will hold
pay per views, for example, on occasion in the UK,
and they will obviously in October go to Abu Dhabi,
but they've been holding them for the majority of their existence.
They've been holding nearly all of the pay per views
in the United States or Canada because that was your

(01:35:31):
number one pay per view buying audience in the US
and the North America more broadly. But if you're getting
rid of them, why can't you just take your numbered
events to anywhere that you want.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
I wonder if the time, the starting time.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
Mass starting time is always going to be a limiting factor,
but you know you are freed from one big limiting factor,
which is you don't care if this sells pay per views.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Yeah, but that when you're saying, when Mark Shapiro is
saying publicly that they want to simulcast every event on CBS,
that could every number event, every numbered event, excuse me,
I meant that, and and then that could really uh
change that could that could stunt the growth of.

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
Yeah, a little bit of a little bit of a
mixed messaging between he and Dana Whitey had won a
quarter and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
I'm like, I wonder if Dana just wasn't briefed up
to the speed that he needs.

Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
People think that Dana is the one in charge, and
I'm like that that's also a major party.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
I don't sure. I'm not sure how true that is anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Indeed, those are your d ms for the week.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Hopefully now you have talked a Gangash took a gang.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
You texted me yesterday you were like, yo, bro, wait
until you motherfucking.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
See not that is not what I did mention I
had a good batch, though I had no breachers all weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
Seriously sharing that with me so disgusting. I scoured the
globe on yesterday for the highs and lows, the good,
the bad, the ugly, in the in between, in the
world of combat sports and beyond. This is a long one,
but I hope it gets a good reaction from Luke.
It's called have you seen my ship?

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Colonel?

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
Yeah? Who a dress? Somebody's drinking. Hey, big weekend for
Daniel Cormier, Luke. He got carried like a baby, not once,
but twice by Hamza CHAMAIAV in public.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
You know, it's so fine.

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
I saw people being like, Wow, it's really strong of
Ham's out to do that to a three hundred and
fifty pounds, man, I mean, and I'm like, guys, DC
is a little fat, but he's not three fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
We will get into that in a second. Here's the
second time, with DC commenting over video of it when
they were clowning him for it on the UFC Way
and Show.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Can we talk about how Chamaiav swung you around like
a little baby this week?

Speaker 8 (01:37:33):
One of was terrifying.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
Oh my god, see that strong. He's one of the
easily stronger than you. He's one of the strongest. I
ever broke my strong Did you jump up or did
you just know?

Speaker 10 (01:37:42):
He just picked me up?

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
To drop back in your hips and still?

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Whoa Hey, why'd you spread your legs like that in
the air?

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
I'm talking aboutself.

Speaker 10 (01:37:50):
You're a day You're like, hey, dog, That way and
Show is the best thing that they do other than
the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
It is so very Here's the hilarious tweet here from
super k Loo. In fact, Tamiah picking up Cormier is
more impressive than Hogan slamming hundred the giants. Statistically from
Rustlemania three, if Jamaiev is won a or Chimney is
one eighty five.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
You know super Cow is like a big troll account right,
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Okay, and uh Cormier three point fifty. That's a two
hundred and fifty five pound difference. But look the numbers
don't lie. Hogan three hundred and two pounds andre five hundred.
Look at that. That is much more much.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
By the way, Hogan would change the story every time
over the years and say he tore his bicep. Then
the next story would be he tore his back all
the way down.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
You know what that that C four sounded tasted like
rather well, it tasted like how much Joe It tasted
like how much Hulk Hogan loves the N word.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
That's how much it tasted, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
De Gross also helped produce the sound bite of the
week for this segment when he got Chimayev to say this.

Speaker 10 (01:38:50):
Well, look at me, but look at me, look at
my face, look at your face. This beautiful black skin, caramel,
Your skinful like mine.

Speaker 9 (01:39:01):
It needs to be beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
What you need to be world champion?

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
Like you're so crazy? Do you get say that?

Speaker 8 (01:39:10):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Yeah, I know you are.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
Okay. That was a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
That was a singer that was a decent line he did.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
By the way he shouted out, Uh, did you see
he didn't shout out cader Off by name, but he
shouted out the ca deer Off gym by name.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
Oh I didn't hear that?

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Going to be one of these times, It's just a
matter of time.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Wild. Here's also DC getting a little suss with Jared
Katineer on the scale.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
Looks great for.

Speaker 10 (01:39:34):
If I had a body like Jared Cannon here, I
would put oil on me.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Oh my boy, that room I was just.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
Like I would hit the.

Speaker 10 (01:39:45):
Way in stage and just slide on my stumbles.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
All right, three fifteen at least right right? Also, U
d C got sent to hell on social media by
Jack Della mat Atlanta. Did you see this?

Speaker 5 (01:39:58):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
The only way KO the pay per view company in
Australia can redeem themselves. As with the DC mute.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
But you know what, people people, he he produces big reactions.
And I have to say, out of all my problems
with the various UFC commentators, I don't share a lot
of the negative DC sentence.

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
I like him as a whole usually, but he the
last two cards, he's one he said, Oh that's not
even under that's not even him a second later.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
I'm not listening.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
I'm not making an argument that there are not legitimate
criticism do that all the time? Him and Joke have
they have they they suck helium and have goofball hour
on there. And also he didn't know Capawa was an
actual martial art and I was like, holy fuck, that's
kind of bad.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
You don't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:43):
But but but I think there's a lot of like,
you know, going after him that I don't support.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
That was like the ESPN lady with the Barry Sanders jersey.
That was rough as well. Let's keep it going here.
Speaking of fat fellas, listen to this. Did you ever
play Hide and Seek?

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Yeah? As a kid?

Speaker 5 (01:40:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
I mean how did that go? Well?

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
Done? Right there? That's that dude Maton. Yeah, he's fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
Luke, here's a preview of you trying to navigate your
new e bike with your now that you're a member
of think well his bike, bros.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
Or what's he doing? Okay, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
Are your tires that big?

Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
Luke?

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
They're thicker than a normal tire, but they're not like that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Okay, Luke, you know how much I love soccer. Finally
someone tells me, like.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
You have interesting taste.

Speaker 8 (01:41:33):
That is, despite a twenty nine year effort by the MLS,
soccer has never broken into the mainstream in the United States,
instead being far outpaced by the NFL, and they're eighteen
billion dollar yearly profit.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
It's because soccers. Doc, Do you think you're cool for
not liking soccer?

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
I mean I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
I didn't A serious question. Do you think that makes
you cool?

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Finally someone spoke.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
Up, Luke, You're not cool for that. I hope you
know that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Look, it's time for regional combat sports, where, of course
anything anything can happen. Let's go to Tom Loffler's three
sixty promotions. Watch this little piece of business between and
Abel Mahia. They both go down. But watch Mahia here.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
After he rally, okay, putting it on him here, Well
these are nice.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
He would get him out of the ship. They both
would go down. We also saw a banger with that
Philip Ergovich fight on the Dezonne undercards. They both went
down in round eight and Kovich got up.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
To what about versus Ergovich?

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
That's a decent idea, that is, can box a little
bit a little bit, but not not as not as Yeah. Okay,
let's go over to r X F M M A and.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
Like a drunk at a bar bouncer, when the ref
says fucking style, they mean it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Luke, Now we mix together the unknown of regional MMA
with some elder abuse. Watch this fight. I don't think
we need senior mma.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
Let me see that one more time. We'll play that
ship society.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
Good lord? Wow, all right, now we can transition into
some actions.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
If I got paid nothing for that, since they're wearing
shim pads, that means it's the amateur.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
Here's some bonus older abuse.

Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
It's on the card. Let's see says I've taken four
ships today. That's what I said to you earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
I know it's the same level of harassment. I mean,
there's no lady's days going to be changed from knowing
that now in a bad way. Luke, new game alert.
Are you ready? I show you the way someone acts
in a clip. You tell me if it's lame game
or Hall of Fame. Okay, so there's levels to this.
Here's their first guy in the elevator.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
But you guys going up something for you fart on this.

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
You get one.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
Lame lame Come on, that's at least game, right there.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
No, you do that to your friends, not fucking strange.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
You do it to the first class section of every airplane.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
Okay, that is class politics and I should be commended
for it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
All right, let's go to the concert. Luke, bring pitstick.
Make sure that these disgusting people.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
Okay, that's game.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
Okay, that's game.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
I'm actually it's game. It's a Hall of Fame. But
I'll play ball with that one.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
All right, right, this guy is lame game or Hall
of Fame rating h going to get four meat rockets
and a dipping plate filled with mustard.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
That's Hall of fame.

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
Yeah, he sweat and look at look at this man.
He is ready to die for these glizzies. That's what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
We go to Washington in DC. Excuse me for this one, Luke,
lame game or Hall of fame. As the cops walking
on this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
The fucker, oh the sandwich thrower.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
Oh yeah, here's a five dollars foot long bitch. He's
just protesting.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
Jared people, protesting the cops down in the city, just
like as like he became a symbol of resistance.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
Is that? What do you think you got to rate him?

Speaker 3 (01:45:18):
Oh that's a Hall of fame. Oh yeah, they charged
him with a fucking felony for that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
By the way, I'm not surprised one more. Here's the
Yankee security guard.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Oh hell yeah, all mother fucking fame. He's keeping us
as all.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
Right, let's circle back to UFC three nineteen. We got
a nice Chama flex in the crowd. Rate that tat
his right bicep.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
Luke Um, that's a five out of four out of ten.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
Okay, you're right with this.

Speaker 3 (01:45:48):
I mean, here's the thing. Obviously, becoming a champion, getting
the belt tattooed. It conceptually sounds good, but the execution
of that is real ass.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
So here's the Chase Hooper video I was talking about
from embedded. Maybe we should have saw this as a
warning sign.

Speaker 5 (01:46:01):
There's been a lot of memes this week about me being,
you know, on the hood side. This one, you know,
added me into the lineup on the hood guys on
the card you want to help me fit the do
rag on you on. I feel like I'm proposing.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
This is me co signing him wearing a do bat.
So anybody some racers and moms around. He was co
signed by a.

Speaker 5 (01:46:27):
HOOD official, certified now Night Chase. I think I'm certified now, so.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
Certified.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
Look, he went Hood, he got KO afterwards, so that
was most wanted he Uh. It also reminds me of
uh mister McMahon during his run as e c W
champion when he would drop the N word. Luke, I mean,
prosty is just absurd, right, Oh you don't know that
famous clip to John Cena, like, what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
My my?

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Yeah, it was part of the storyline apparently, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
Dude. W W is a gross ass company, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Yeah? Okay, Speaking of the way and show, they had
John Anny play f Mary Kill. I think you're like this.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
You have Brian Stan, you have Daniel Cormier, and you
have Dominant Cruz.

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
You know the game f Mary Kill. Let's go John Kill.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
With one of these gentlemen here.

Speaker 4 (01:47:24):
I mean, theoretically speaking, let's say straight it on a
desert island.

Speaker 17 (01:47:27):
So I mean, I'm definitely marrying Brian Stan. I think
that goes without saying that's.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
A platonic relationship.

Speaker 17 (01:47:34):
Platonic relationship though, stand because I do not want to
sleep with you. You know, be too hard, DC, be too
hard to kill, you know, so I think I try
to kill Cruz and uh we we'll have you know,
our one night stand and move on with it, you guys,
man of all the questions I expected here today. Yes,

(01:47:55):
this is the biggest fight of the year, our main event.
I did not expect.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
You have to sleep with this a different way and
show tho ago it is? Oh yeah, hey, DC, Room
eighteen o two. I'll played Byanic right there, dude, you
get stand back? Is he gonna be announcing fights?

Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
I would love for him to do that. I don't
know he has another job still, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
That was awesome to see right there. All right, I
lost my spot and then let's keep the fun going
here to here we go. You know, if we put
a punch punch bag machine, you know where you rate
your power, you'll let you'll usually end up in this segment.

Speaker 13 (01:48:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yes, I'll come out.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
You choose something up young and choose something night whit?

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
What the fuck?

Speaker 9 (01:48:45):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
Scared of that? AI?

Speaker 1 (01:48:47):
What happened right there?

Speaker 4 (01:48:48):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
Are you showing me? Fucking dude?

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
I don't domestic I don't know what that was. Oh hey,
it's time for your a question of the week. Let's
go to Rick Ross on the Raid uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
I have another question.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
You won't mind me asking?

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
You don't mind No, I'm a lift service person, so okay,
I like the way that sound. But are you a squirter?
Oh uh?

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
You know I tried to ask that in an HR
meeting one time and they didn't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
You know you've seen that ship. Let's go to some
rugby or Ossie rules football. I don't know, but apparently
they do double oil changes in this game. This is
some as rules watch.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
Okay, this is how you were conceived.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
I mean, what what is this? Playing a little as
grab in the park with the the I mean touch,
but what is this this? Oh my god?

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
In Australia, I don't know if you know this, they
jack off each other to males will jack off each
other as a greeting.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
That's a true story.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
W Let's go to this meme.

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
Okay. I just want to point out.

Speaker 3 (01:49:53):
I just want to point out that half of the
humor on this segment is violence against women.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
I mean, it randomly became that today, but it's not
a typical.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
It's a little. I gotta tell you it's a little much.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
All right. Hey, this week in facials, let's go to
the or nothing a jet to holiday. But it didn't
stop there, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
Let's go to the sideline was insane.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
Let's go to NFL practice. Watch how Pam Oliver?

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
Oh, here it is back up quarterback Chandler Harnish throws
and Pam Oliver wham. Let me tell you that was right? Okay?
Are you okay at home?

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
I'm trying to make.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
Are you in the problems at home? What is there?

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
Let's go to the golf course and see. I think
you have to yell four for this, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
It's solid contact.

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
Right to the pebbles. Luke. Wow, that is great.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
That's why they call it pebble beach eat.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
Indeed, all right, let's we got to cleanse the palate here.
It's been a little rough here. Let's go to cake lady.
What do you got for us this week? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
Why don't you just eat the chair? You fucking goat,
you billy goat? Are you gonna eat the trash?

Speaker 8 (01:51:21):
To you?

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
Unbelievable scaring?

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
Okay, that's that's very aggressive, all right. The only thing
that can save us from that are crowd fights, Luke,
Let's go over to the UH to the to the
high level of the upper deckare it ain't work. It
ain't worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
People fighting other people from an elevated position.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
Did we learn episode It.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
Just seems like a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
Have the high ground for a reason.

Speaker 3 (01:51:52):
Yeah, I mean, you know again, it's like shooting fish
in a barrel trying to attack someone from an elevated position.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Let's go to the Los Angeles Angels crowd. I'm not
sure here's how it finished. Oh my soccer kicks too, dude,
this is nuts today, right? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:52:15):
Why did they let raiders fans into the game?

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
I don't know. Let's flash back to my favorite MMA
interview of all time?

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
Is it heavy?

Speaker 4 (01:52:22):
It is heavy?

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
And I touch it? Absolutely? Go ahead, let me get
them tiptoes.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
I think that's in it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
I don't think that's how that interview actually went.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
One more for you. Here's Grandma.

Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
You know that phone smells. You know that she whipped
that phone out and immediately were like, wow, I didn't
know we were at the worst.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Think this segment has just run its course today. I
think we you know, we found.

Speaker 1 (01:52:53):
You're like hero, We're just gonna look at murders of
women on the side of the room.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
You know, I'm trying to be non gender specific. You
know everyone can get it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
I'm think you need one more pass.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
So North Korea did approve that. That's all.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
The ship's amazing what the North Korean sensors will approve
and what they won't approve.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
But they were against murdering for a while. But uh,
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Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
Do we have kids watching this show? I hope I
don't think we do. We have wives?

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
I hope not.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
I don't know if You're gonna have a wife after
this show. Fair point.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
That's a fair point. Long Island, Luke of the Main
Card Minute Fame.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
Rocking prop Quiz, prop is Fame.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
Check out that episode of Luke and I on prop Quiz,
the new main Card minute vehicle. What can the people
expect from you?

Speaker 4 (01:54:06):
For the rest of you can expect a new episode
of prop Quiz hopefully later in the week. Contender series
watch Along tomorrow, but breakdown and saticated. Well, so how
about this for dedication Saturday? That Shanghai card three am start?
You know I'm doing the full card.

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
No, No, those are actually dude, you're waking up.

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
You know what he's not doing getting married three am?

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
You must be lonely, all right? You know what she said, baby, baby,
that's he's cornering the market.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
How long have you dated this girl? Seven years?

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
How long have you been living together? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
Three years? Four years? And what is she saying about?
There's a lot of time committed the next step.

Speaker 4 (01:54:47):
You know, that's we're in We're in discussions, Luke, you
know things are moving.

Speaker 9 (01:54:51):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
Yeah wow?

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
Seven girlfriend, it's a that's quite a niche.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
What do you think about him? Cornering the market of
lower end mm A, nobody is going to beat this
guy to the live stream and this stuff is a
livestream tough too, No.

Speaker 4 (01:55:06):
I will say Gaffs also helping me corner the market.
Gaft did PFL on Friday even I didn't Liz car
Moose one.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:11):
Yeah, shout out to Liz car Moose for that win.
So she wins the tournament at women's what was that?

Speaker 8 (01:55:16):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
Fly wait?

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
Okay? And Alfie Davis got a big upset against you.

Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
Yeah, he beat him out of No, it was like
a plus two thousand underdog something insane number.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
Interesting, he got the job done.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
What's next for PFL? Do they have more divisions that
have yet to have the tournament final?

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
I mean, the only one I'm really counting on is
what they must have some more. But the one I'm
counting on is the rematch.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
That's October thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
Yeah, the America made Off and Paul Hughes rematch.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
What do you think about Corey O. T Anderson friend
of the program in the Comaane for the PFL light
heavyweight title against double Zon.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
Above.

Speaker 3 (01:55:51):
He should win that one, and I big shouts to
Corey he's a good dude who's waited his turn.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
For what room? Was he the beast in?

Speaker 1 (01:55:57):
It was beast in twenty five to seven?

Speaker 4 (01:56:00):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
Wait now eight twenty five eight? I'm sorry? Yeah, what
am I saying?

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
Twenty four college?

Speaker 1 (01:56:06):
I don't know, do they whatever? College? They don't do math.
I don't know. Oh, you're gonna beast twenty four to seven.
I'm gonna beast twenty Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
Well there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
Get that through.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
Yeah, yeah, that's great. Thank you for watching today. I
hope that you'll watch us again this Friday, eleven am
Eastern Time for a remote episode as we set the
stage for UFC. Where's that card specifically this weekend? It's Shanghai.
I like the cole Maine more than the main I'm
here for Brian or takeo versus algia.

Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
Yeah, the main event. I don't really give a shit.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
About Johnny Walker against Uh, what's the guy's yang yang?

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
The what is he?

Speaker 3 (01:56:40):
The snow tiger, the snow leopard? What is yeah, one
of those mountain tiger or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
You can follow our social handles there. Please like and
subscribe to this video if you are a supporter of
what we do. It does help us make advances. Please,
we like to make advances on people. That's about all
I can produce for today, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
I'm a little bit scarred by that last segment. I'm
gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
I mean, the art on this show is meant to
move you, but it's never a guarantee that it will
move you in the direction you think coming in.

Speaker 1 (01:57:07):
Yeah, I hope you recover.

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
Yeah, that's that was more violent than some of the
pornography that you watched.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
So what was the point of no return? The soccer
kick in the crowd or Pam Oliver?

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
I think the guy just turning around after the punch
machine and being like, I'm just gonna assault this random
woman that seems.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
To be a skip.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
Yes, I don't think that could a hap. Well, it
could happen, but I don't think definitely. I don't think
it's getting out there.

Speaker 3 (01:57:31):
As like soccer kick at the Angels game was was
was not great.

Speaker 1 (01:57:36):
I give that an as.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
I mean, Cake lady coming out this week with the
toes was something.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
I'm going to fly to wherever she's from have a
word with her.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
Do you think she would accept an offer to be
on the show as a guest or would that you would?

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
Probably I've called her bad names. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
All right, Hey, that's all we got for you today
for Long Island, Luke and LT I'm the BC.

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
How many buildos are in that bag?

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
Thank you for playing. I will not return home. Finally,
after this, I gotta jump on the train Osborne style.
We out. Yeah,

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