Maycee Barber Last-Minute Scratch vs. Erin Blanchfield, UFC Vegas 107 Reaction, UFC 316 Lookahead

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shout out to a bron one of the nicest people. Luke,
anything else you want to say before we get into
the hard details of an unfortunate weekend and mixed martial arts.
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So why don't we transition right now to topic number one.
UFC Fight Night APEX Over the weekend I was supposed
to give us a typically watered down card, but with
an interesting main event in the women's flyweight division, as
title contention and maybe a straight up title shot was

(09:22):
at stake on paper when Aaron Blandsfield and Macy Barber
were set to face off. But not only did Macy
Barber miss weight on Friday and really really looked bad
on the scales as she tried her best to get
in under that one hundred and twenty six pound main
event limit. There it would get a lot worse for her,
as just moments before the start of the main event,

(09:43):
reports backstage would be that Macy Barber had multiple seizures
and the fight was scrapped at the very last minute,
leading UC analyst Loris Senko to literally put her head
down on the table in disappointment or maybe even fear
for Barber's well being. Does Aaron Blinchfield that same fear, Well,
we'll get into that in a second. But Luke, we
know that Barber has had a number of serious health

(10:06):
complications that have held back what we felt like was
an inevitable march to the top of this division. Is
there any way to say, from the outside looking in,
what all of this means? Not for the UFC, not
for the warehouse. We're talking about the athlete and her
health here for Macy Barber. How scary was this in
your eyes? To see this fight fall apart and see

(10:27):
the reports of what she went through.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, so this is by my count, at least three
times she's had to withdraw from about now. Obviously, never
this late. This is one of the latest ones you'll
ever see. This is up there with Kevin Randleman hitting
his head on a pipe walking out to the fight,
or just before walking out to a fight. In terms
of the lateness of it, it's hard to get much
later than this. But of course the Rose nambi Unis

(10:51):
fight she had to withdraw from, and I think maybe
even the first attempt at the Montana de la Rosa
fight she had to withdraw from. That's to say nothing
of some of the other like orthopedy heatic injury she's had.
But BC, I don't know what the medical situation is,
and obviously virtually all of those things are her business,
not ours. But if we can connect some of the

(11:12):
dots here and at least began to ask some bigger questions,
if you've had, now multiple times you've had to withdraw
from a fight early, including one, this is I wouldn't
call it catastrophic, but this is concerning at a bare minimum.
We don't have this confirmed, but it was at least
said by Aaron Blanchfield that she was told that Macy
had a seizure Campbell just through Hunter Campbell. That's right. Again,

(11:38):
that's still secondhand, but nevertheless that's what she said. And
then if you look at the Rosnamba unit situation where
she had to pull out, she had a lasting medical
illness that her doctors, according to Barber's own social media
posts and subsequent discussions about this, that they weren't even
sure what it is and they're still not exactly sure
what it is. And it seems to me that whatever

(11:59):
it is. Again, I don't know what the situation is.
I can only make some kind of halfway informed speculation
about it. But it does not appear to be over with.
It does not appear to be in control. It does
not appear to be something that is otherwise than a
known but containable medical issue or series of medical issues.

(12:19):
If you're having a medical event of that kind just
before a contest where you can potentially sustain serious head trauma,
you have questions about whether you can do this at all.
That's not to say, again, I'm not some doctor who
can declare definitively what it means and what you can
and can't do. Be se but seizures are a again
to the extent that is real, that's a very serious thing.

(12:43):
And some seizures, as I understand it, have come with
conditions that are largely controllable. I don't know to what
extent this one is, especially if some of the situations
from the iom a Unis fight are still unresolved, like
what are they trying to identify? What are they trying
to get at? And BC like I don't have anything
near approximating this kind of problem. But when I had

(13:04):
that issue with my leg and I had to go
to doctor after doctor. You knew about this. I was
telling you about it, doctor after doctor after doctor after doctor,
and none of them had any idea what the problem is.
These problems can linger, they can get worse. They can
lead to subsequent problems because they weren't handled more easily
and quickly, because they weren't known conditions like the amount
of cascading downstream problems that it can cause. They tend

(13:27):
to get worse over time. So let's just say this.
We obviously hope the best for Macy Barber. We obviously
hope that she's gonna be okay, but I know she's
just what twenty seven years old BC. Yeah, there's some
big questions to ask about is this a viable career
path right now?

Speaker 4 (13:44):
No doubt about that. This is a scary situation for
a fighter who's won six in a row and one
that we generally think is one of the better fighters
in this division. Obviously, she came in as a betting
underdog against Aaron Blanchfield, and this was a fight that
really could have propelled the winner, you know, directly to
knocking on that door for a title shot. So it's
definitely concerning news. You know, as was to some degree

(14:05):
her missing weight in just in general by a half
pound when you consider how big of a fight this
was for her. But Luke, when I saw her on
the scale, I mean, you know, we've seen scary scale
situations before. I mean, who was the field was it
ash aspen Lad that time? Who's sort of like was wobbly,
you know, and it's trying to step And we've seen

(14:26):
that before and none of that is even remotely healthy.
But you saw the look of Barbara on that scale.
You know, she looked like death and that was really concerning.
So then even I'm gonna say this, even the live
video which Dana White tweeted out of her entering the
APEX facility, you know, two hours before the main event
was supposed to start, I also felt that she didn't look,

(14:47):
you know, that healthy in that situation. Either, this escalates
it to a new area. I mean, unfortunately for the UFC,
and we're gonna get into that discussion. This is a
really bad timing to roll out another fight and warehouse card,
a card that wasn't that strong up and down. If
you have apathy toward women's MMA, maybe you'd even want
the main event and now you don't get anything. But

(15:09):
the human side of this is even bigger. Macy Barber
did finally update on social media her condition, showing pictures
as you can see here of her in the hospital
and specifically what she said here was not what I
had planned for a Sunday post. Thank you to everyone
for the prayers and support. I own apology to UFC, mcmayner,

(15:30):
Dana White, Shaun Shelby, Aaron Blanchfield, and PS, my life
is not messy. This is just a bad hand. We
will get to the bottom of it all and be back.
So Luke that messy comment, well, that's in direct relation
to how Aaron Blanchfield handled this, which was multiple interviews,
one with Megan o Levy right after the main event

(15:51):
was canceled, and then one at the press conference afterwards,
where Blanchfield did not pull any punches. Let's listen in
on that.

Speaker 7 (15:59):
Yeah, I guess I jinxed myself because I shouldn't have
been saying that. I feel like I'm still pretty in
disbelief right now, you know, I feel like I was
in disbelief yesterday when she missed Wait, because we knew
about this fight since January. You could have been fifty
pounds overweight and still made weight, you know what I mean.
So she missed Wait, then she gets to Saturday, she
gets to the locker room, I'm fully ready to go.

(16:20):
She's supposed to be ready to go, supposedly. Now she
has like all these health issues right when we were
supposed to fight. I think it's pretty crazy, pretty unprofessional. Yeah,
I wouldn't want to fight her again.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Do you know what happened?

Speaker 7 (16:35):
I was told she had a seizure in the locker room.
I don't know like how or why exactly that was caused,
but that's what I was told. I mean, when she
missed wait yesterday, I definitely thought that was strange. I mean,
I didn't care. I was gonna take her money. I
would have took her win money tonight too. But I
remember they said six minutes, and I was like, this
feels like a lot longer. Like I didn't feel like
six minutes. No one said anything until like Hunter came

(16:57):
in and told me, you know, that she was having
a seizure and that she wouldn't be able to compete,
And yeah, I don't know. I feel like It's it's
almost like like a nightmare kind of thing. You know,
when you have jitters, you're like, oh, maybe something will happen.
The fight won't happen, but you never want that, you know.

Speaker 8 (17:12):
What I mean.

Speaker 7 (17:12):
It's uh, yeah, it's pretty disappointed. I don't know. She
needs to look at another division. She needs to fix her life.
She needs to just fix herself. I think she's a
complete mess in every aspect of her entire life.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Well, Luke, her nickname is cold blooded. That was cold
blooded as shit. But I have seen a response from
people that it's torn. Some people saying, like you mentioned,
maybe insensitive to release the medical info, maybe just insensitive
in general to talk down to someone's situation, you know, medically.
But at the same time, Aaron prepared for this fight.
I believe I saw where she's still gonna get the

(17:44):
show and uh maybe even the wind bonus off the
check that.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
That's what her management reported on social media.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
So there's that part covered. But there is an unprofessional
side of this in general, even separate from the health conditions.
How do you read how Aaron Blanchefield, in her cold
blooded ways, responded to this.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I mean I saw listen if Okay, be seen if
you work in this industry long enough. Fighters don't come
in one type. They come in all different kinds of types,

(18:23):
even in a more homogenized combat sports space that we
have today. But the reality is there tend to be
some kinds of behaviors that are simply much more common
among them, or considered to be much more acceptable among them.
And not having sympathy for an adversary who caused you

(18:44):
professional issues is pretty standard. Now, that's not me saying
this is the kind of logic that an ordinary person
in ordinary life should employ. To your point, it is
quite heartless. And if Barber is having medical issues that
her doctors cannot discover and or properly control, she is

(19:07):
the victim. She is not the perpetrator of these issues.
And someone should be able to look at that and
say as much. But you know, in fight sports, you're
not tasking fighters with having ultimate rational rationality. You're tasking
them with having the kind of viewpoint that lets them
have maximum success. And you know, looking at an opponent

(19:32):
in the way in which Blanchefield did here is ugly
by normal standards. But to be honest, among a highly
competitive prize fighter who has a heated rival who you
know again, for whatever you want to say about it,
but the by what happened to her, everything on that
evening got blown up. Yeah. I don't necessarily expect every

(19:52):
fighter to say nice things in that circumstance. When they do,
we should praise them. And I think it's a great
sign of maturity. But you know, am I am I
losing sleep over what is? Yeah? It's a coal heartless message.
Am I losing sleep over it?

Speaker 9 (20:05):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I am not.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
I mean I kind of agree with her and her
team on the idea that like, they don't need to
run this fight back.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
They definitely don't need to run the fight back. Yeah, no, dude,
I mean this was the problem with this situation. It's
one thing we were talking like, oh, what are all
the permutations that could lead to X or lead to Y?
But now you've got a situation that can't really lead
to anything other than you just have to like wash
your hands of it and move away. A you don't
even know what the situation is with Barber and b Blanchefield.

(20:34):
It's not like she got like a oh they fought
for thirty seconds and she got a bes stoppage. You
didn't even get that. You got nothing, You got a
window into absolute nothingness, and so it's gonna be hard
for her to catapult. But trying to put this one
back together, forget it, just just whatever it can be
made available. Figure it out from there. Maybe it's the
Natalia Silva number one contender fight. Maybe Silva now gets it.

(20:56):
Maybe one of them fights you on, excuse me, not
Yancha Man. I'm sorry, Jong Way Lee. We shall see.
But yeah, we don't need to worry about this.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
I mean, does it go without saying that that for
Macy's health, for the you know, credibility of the sport,
you don't want to see her back into a fight
until she really understands what's happening to her medically. So
that for her own, you know, the scare of her
own health here, that we don't see her back until
everything's figured out.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, there's no one wants to give up professional time
when you have youth on your side in a combat sport.
But if you're having these kinds of medical issues a
ongoing and b, as it was suggested by Blanchefield, potentially
seizures backstage, dude, that's serious. Is this is these are
the kinds of things that could affect the entirety of

(21:40):
your life in very substantive ways. You must get an
answer to this question, and maybe the answer is b see, oh,
we figure this out and it's all controllable and you
can go right back to it. We've seen fighters make
seemingly miraculous comebacks even with situations where they had, you know,
brain scans that didn't come up all that great. We
just have to wait and see, but they get to

(22:00):
the bottom of it first.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
It feels like there's something missing looking at Aaron's reaction
because I get the competitive anger, and I prepared for this,
and because of you, I don't get to take a
step ahead in my career, which is what this was
supposed to be about, maybe maybe even up and up
to and including securing a title shot. Although we said
coming in, I felt like it was a little bit

(22:23):
of a longer road for Blanchfield than Barbara. But we
can argue that. But from the standpoint of what we
don't know, did it sound to you at all? Based
upon how again cold blooded Blanchfield's comments were that maybe
she knows a little bit more than she's saying about Macy,
that maybe.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
There was, I don't think so.

Speaker 8 (22:41):
No.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
What I would say is, let's take a more common
scenario BC. How many times have you seen a big
grudge matcher really any kind of fight. But let's say
there's a little bit of bad blood on the line
and then one of the opponents missus wait right, and
then not only do they misswait, but then because of
the miswait, the missed weaight, and the pros that they
had to put themselves through even though they missed the weight,

(23:03):
they now you know, they have a medical ailment the
next day, and then the fight gets scrapped. We've seen
it a million times, right, So I mean think about
it if you're if now she got apparently again ko
rep said that Blanchfield's going to get her show and
her win money, which is great, but remember she was
entitled to more than that. If she had won, she'd
be entitled to show win and was it twenty or
thirty percent of Barber's purse. He doesn't get that either.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
And performance of the night if you can get that too,
and you know everything that what.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'm saying about. So it's this's a number of ways
in which she's kind of negatively effected here. But under
that consideration you would still have a degree of sympathy
for the fighter who had a medical issue. But then
you could say, hey, man, you got sick the next
day after missing weight because you are unprofessional and you
didn't make weight right, you didn't do the work necessary

(23:50):
to put yourself in a position not merely to win,
but to even get to the octagon. Your own unprofessionalism
cost you in those scenarios. That kind of cold bloodedness
that you seeing there from Blanchefield seems to be totally
normal to me. What's missing is this is a something
of a pattern. And maybe BC, maybe we don't know,
and I don't want to unfairly speculate, but certainly it

(24:12):
seems not only is there merely a pattern involved, but
that could there be escalating issues in other ways. Again,
a series of deep and serious unknowns that have to
get answered here. And in those situations, it actually inverts
it less about Barber's preparation and more about her suffering
from whatever ailment is causing these complications.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Luke, let's tie this into the bigger picture. And you know,
I want to say, unfortunately for the UFC, this is
another big notch on the negative belt of the direction
we're heading in twenty twenty five, where again it's not
just you and me and people in the know. You know,
what's the word you want to talk about, complain about

(24:56):
where UFC is headed, the soullessness, the money first on everything,
all of that. But then again, even though this isn't
directly related to being UFC's fault, they also are not
doing the type of things that that would put them
in a good light right now. So is it inevitable
that you have to sort of link this, even though

(25:17):
it's not the UFC's fault, with the continue continued downward
trend of the of the court of public opinions, you know,
pr state of where UFC is at right now, where
again it's not just you and I. I'm seeing and
same thing. By the way, with what's going on with
WWE and how angry fans are increasingly getting with TKO,
do you think this is another giant negative feather in

(25:39):
the cap of we have a major problem here in
combat sports and mixed martial arts and TKO land, and
it's only continuing to build negative apathy with the fans.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely think so. But let's let's
try and make the case as clearly as we can.
First of all, what we have to say is, let's
actually start with a bit of good news BC. From
this point forward. The rest of June, assuming you know,
and I'm going to knock on a wood here, assuming
things stay relatively intact, the month of June should be incredible.
You have UFC three sixteen coming up, you have Buckley

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versus Usman coming up, You've got International Fight Week coming up,
and you've got the show in Baku, Azerbaijan headlined between
Khalil Rowntree and Jamal Hill. Right, so you've got an
exciting month ahead. We already know UFC three eighteen's got
a big main event, as does UFC three nineteen. There's
a lot to look forward to, and it appears like
the calendar might be really finally heating up. That's the

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first thing I want to say. The second thing I
want to say is, obviously, with this situation happening, that
by itself is not the fault of the UFC, And
in fact, to the extent that there's any promoter in
the MMA space that's doing advanced medical screening, it's going
to be the ultimate fighting championship, and that's just a reality, right,
So there's that as well. But here's what I did
want to say. There is some speculation about whether Saturday's

(26:56):
fight card is the worst one in UFC history, and
I think you can actually a legitimate claim that it is.
And even if you don't want to make that claim,
you can very much make the claim that it's the
most irrelevant card in UFC history. There's a big mistake
that everybody makes. They when they look at the list
of the fights or the events that are considered to

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be the worst in UFC history. And of course, even
if it's a UFC event that's really bad by relative standards,
that's going to be much better than you know, a
lot virtually almost anything any other promoter can make, right,
So when we say worst, we are grading on a
curve here, Okay, But I do think it's because there
were there were finishes on that fight card. There were
some good fights on that fight card. It's not like

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they were bad fights in and of themselves. But that's
why I'm calling it the most irrelevant fight card in
UFC history. UFC thirty three is kind of considered to
be the worst one in UFC history. Because they had
a bunch of big fights planned for it, they all
went to a decision such that in the main event
between Tito Ortiz and Vladimir matt Ushchenko, they went over
their time that they were allowed to be on pay
per view and it cut out in the middle of
the fight. It was considered a disaster. This was the

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first big event under the ZUFA leadership. This was a huge,
huge mess and it sort of went in time as
like ways not to book a card and all the
things that could have gone wrong. But this is my
point in one of these situations where you know, people
think that though the worst UFC events just gonna have
all bad fights, but it's actually one where it has
like a lot of either irrelevant fights, fights that you know,

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just don't end up delivering, and then some kind of
calamity affecting it on top. That's that's kind of what
this one is. This one had some decent action, to
be clear, but it didn't have anything beyond the comain
which ended up being the main in Ludovit, Klein and
Gamrot that had much stakes for any division maybe Kaitlyn Vieira,

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but even then they had to go up a weight class.
There was numerous weight misses, there were numerous fights that
fell out right before the fight, and then it didn't
even have a main event. Ultimately, in the end, it
produced by UFC standards anyway, BCEE the most irrelevant kind
of MMA and didn't even have a main event in
the end. If there's a more irrelevant UFC card than

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this one, I am struggling to identify which one it
could be.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Well, that's well said right there, and it's the same night,
by the way. We'll get into it deeper, but it's
the same night that they announce what we all thought
was coming, that USA Notch will not happen in Wada Lajara.
It will no longer even be a pay per view.
We'll get into that. It's just a bad time. Let's
throw to this fan tweet, which kind of sums up
the apathy for this card in general. Here's from Valdar

(29:29):
at the three l's eleven fights scheduled, Nine fights actually happened,
three weight misses, two medical issues canceling fights outside of
the cage. The main event got canceled. Three finishes won
by Ko, one of the more violent sustained injuries. Was
the one with a women's feather? What was it? What

(29:51):
the hell does that say? Luke w fl do women's
flyweight who is a much as much an influencer as fighter?
I mean, And that's as harsh as you could get.
It's also not wrong. So look, is there any part
of you that believes, although we know that there's no
APEX cards in June, there's there's two in August back

(30:13):
to back. They are doing what construction on the facility
in hopes of improving the amount of the you know everything,
the amenities, the amount of people that can watch. Is
this enough of a negative blow because we've been talking
about that in the timeline of lately, when when the
fans in London were pissed off about the ticket prices
and the lack of big names. Is that the first
sign that maybe you know things are changing in a

(30:35):
negative direction and could force change. Do you think this
horrific ending to a already bad card with bad circumstances
is enough? Maybe where they're gonna go. We can't do
this anymore. We can't put out these shitty fight night
cards in a warehouse. That's not gonna change it.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
They love making money the guys at t KO love
making money and these cards help them make money. But
it just goes to show, like one point I didn't
make my last in my last comment is like, you know, listen,
I don't know what card would be just fine losing
its main event, right, I mean, virtually any card is
going to be to a degree ruined by losing the

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main event. Some are going to be more resilient than others, obviously,
but it's a big it's a big deal. So in
that sense, like losing the main event, you can be
very forgiving of the card in that sense. But the
problem is one if I had to tell you that
the most irrelevant UFC card of all time took place
in this era, would that in any way be surprising?
Probably not? Probably not. And then more broadly, it's like, dude,

(31:34):
these APEX card they just have their bare bones, you
know what I mean, Like they don't they're not filled out.
So yes, again, losing a main event is a huge problem,
but that's not all they lost. And you know, you
take a couple of pieces away and all of a
sudden it's just a complete different animal. I mean that
was I mean, that was Mataosh Cameron, Ludivett, Kleiner, good fighters,

(31:56):
and maybe there's a couple of the ones you could
throw in there, but that was basically an LFA card.
It was basically an LFA car, which, by the way,
LFA is a good promotion. You can see good fights
on LFA, but that's not the highest tier.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
It's pretty fu Remind you we are in the season
of negotiation for a new broadcast deal in which the
UFC has stated their goal is to get one billion
per year to triple the value of their current one.
This is the timeline that we're running leading into that.
It's insane to me, Luke, it's not.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
It's not good timing. But like you know, again unless
I mean, this is the problem, Like you just don't
have an alternative. Like if you are a fan and
you're like, I'm gonna take my NMA dollars elsewhere, Dude, No,
you're not.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
You're not just I'm gonna take my dollars to PFL
South Africa whatever channel that.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, they're in Nashville next week, which is not about
not a bad place, but yeah, to your point, like,
what are you gonna do? You're gonna go give them
your money? To to PFL like it. It's nonsensical.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
So, Luk, I was debating to myself which topic you
would be less interested in talking about on today's show.
So I figured I would just give you the two
topics and you can pick which one you are less
interested in talking about, all right, the negative effective breast
implants on women's MMA or Big John McCarthy's story about
John Jones sexually assaulting a commission member in the locker

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room before a fight.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Boy, this is truly the sophie's choice of MMA questions here.
Can I just put a gun in my mouth instead?
Can I just do that?

Speaker 4 (33:19):
That's too far? That is too far. I don't accept that. Wow. Wow, Wow,
I don't know how to transition out of that into
an ad read, Luke. So maybe I'll just take five
seconds to pause.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Here, Wow, what did you drop?

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(34:15):
Bronsteader Luke, I'm gonna get down on the Blanco, if
you know what I mean. And I'm fire up about
this pregame preview because it's it's my favorite vehicle that
we have right now to drive.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
It's gonna be great. As we said, We're gonna have
a bron with us here in studio. And like I said, dude,
for as bad as Saturday was, and it was quite
remarkably bad, the rest of the month looks great. The
rest of the month looks.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
I mean, the summer headliners are very good too.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
So I'm happy to just and this walk forward.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah, and John Jones did say in some public thing
that he won't announce the Espenall fight. Luke the UFC
will can.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
We I don't care about him anymore. I just genuinely
don't care.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
I'm I'm still wondering about his twenties, Luke, But his
thirties have been a lot worse, a lot worse, no worse.
I don't know that the headlines in his thirties looked.
They have a pretty damn bad Okay, all right, who
would you rather be? Move on?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
He's boring.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
Luke doesn't want to talk about uh, probably just tattoo.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
All right, You're like, all right, here we're gonna do.
We're gonna talk about potential gay sex acts or sexual
harassment in the workplace. And I'm like, yeah, we could
skip both of those.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Okay, Hey, let's go to topic number two. It's the
rest of UFC Fight and I for what there was
inside the apex in terms of, you know, advancements, storylines,
breakout performances. Luke and that comin event which became the
main event on paper, This was contender Miteyoush Caamra looking
to stay busy and hold his own spot contention against

(35:48):
unranked but rising Ludvoight Klein and over three rounds. Boy,
did we see that dominant wrestling ability and increased I
think urgency with the striking. At times he though it
was grappling heavy, but even when he had climbed down,
he reined it on in terms of the ground and pounds.
So Luke, considering Klein's calling card coming in, was that

(36:09):
plus ninety percent takedown percentage to see Gamrock just absolutely
control dominate in out class. Was this win impressive enough
to do more than just hold serve in this division
and maybe lift old Maddie Gamra to a much bigger
fight here atop this?

Speaker 10 (36:26):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I don't think so. Uh, Well, he'll get a bigger
fight after this. Yes, he got to win. There are
available people, there are good fights to make. He's a
good test for certain kinds of fighters. Yes, And I
did notice him open up a little bit more with
strikes this time, although that was mostly because he could
because he had better control of Klein and therefore he

(36:52):
was able to open up with his strikes. But this
was not one of those fights that I watched and
I was like, oh wow, like he's reborn and this
is all this is everything that I wanted to see.
Now again, he's coming off of a loss and a
very I think difficult one to accept, although a real
one against Dan Hooker, and so he you know, getting
the W was the most important thing. But I don't
know how you can watch this and be like, oh,

(37:14):
now I need to rethink how he matches up with
the rest of the division. He was already tough against
any of those fighters BC, But there's nothing in this
fight where you're like, oh now I need to reconsider
what other threats he brings. It's more or less maybe
a little bit extra thrown in, but basically more or
less what you knew about him before. And to your point,

(37:35):
I'll give you know, Listen, it sounds like I'm backing
on Gamro and I'm not. Klein came in with that
more than ninety percent takedown defensive rate, and you would
have not known that with the way Gamrock was handling him.
That was pretty impressive. That was you know, this was
Gamrock made the point. We even talked about it on
Friday SHOWBC. We even said, like, we looked at the
names that he's ninety percent above against. It's like, yeah,

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but none of these guys wrestle like Gamrock. Well, sure enough,
Gamrot's a level. It's not to say he's the high level.
Be see, he's high level. He's a very very good fighter.
But I just don't know how you can look at
this and come away with the conclusion that, like there's
something else being added beyond what we basically already knew
about him.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
True, true, Klein did have a seven fight on Beaten
Street coming in he was surging, even though, as we
just said, this was basically a fight to hold Gamroth's place,
and it became the main event, unfortunately after it already
ended in a lot of ways, but it did. It
was Gamrot at least holding serve and showing us that
in his early thirties he's trying his best to put

(38:34):
the full game together. He does have an impressive record.
He does have victories over very key contenders in this division,
including Armant Sarukian. So in terms of who he wants next,
let's let Gamrot tell us himself.

Speaker 11 (38:45):
I can I can change Ben your nickname. He has
nicknamed Good, but I can change this nickname my good
Good of comfort Zone, because bro, he got the help
fight with me one week before. Many times she call
call out me like I want to fight with Gamrod,
he gets opportunity and he said, no, bro, what the

(39:08):
fuck good of comfort Zone? Is that a fight that
you hope hope happened?

Speaker 7 (39:18):
Like, do you want that fight to happen in Paris,
Abu Dhabi somewhere else?

Speaker 11 (39:23):
I think Paris his hometowns will be good. Like another time.
I will be myself against everybody, no problem. His big
name in French. So if I get mine event, five
rounds with him and I will enjoy this time. This
is like September right this three months later, perfect timing.
I back to home, I rest, then I beg to Florida.

(39:45):
Prepare give me this guy.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
So look, even though I love this fight on paper,
the idea of Gamera against the good of comfort Zone.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Oh, don't be mocking his accent.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
I'm just relaying what he said. He is ranked number seven, Gamrod.
He just beat an unranked fighter and now he's gonna
wants the number thirteenth ranked fighter in BSD, who I
do agree is better than is ranking. Is that the
right call? Or should he be looking into that top
five and saying, hey, gaechee, hey whomever, let's get hey
sar Rouki and I beat you yet you've lapped me,
let's do it again.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
I mean, if he's calling out the Bsd's of the world,
he probably has an idea that he needs to get
the matchmakers on his side, you know what I'm saying, Like,
why would you fight BSD well? Because you know he's
gonna bring it. It's gonna be action packed. He'll probably
bring it in the way which it will accommodate Gamra's
existing style, which means he'll get an exciting fight against
the known contender that's respected and he'll probably win. So

(40:44):
that makes a lot more sense to me than just
being like, Hey, I beat a guy on the most
irrelevant card in UFC history. Can I have a title shot? Now?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Like, did you like the swagger? Though in the post
fight interview, I'm gonna guess you had the volume down,
but he was almost doing like a shtick like, yeah,
let's go, I've taken anybody, Like he was kind of
trying to show some some riz if you will, some uh,
you know.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Some wrizzler. Is that what the kid does or is
it like this? I can't quite I can't. You know.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
There's this, there's this, and then you got to do
this along the fat lineatlash Yeah. Right, well, it's like,
I don't know if it's.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
That's where he taught, that's where he tells his servants
to tie his bib, like right.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
By the way. By the way, the Wrizzler had a
question with his name as the answer on Jeopardy in
the past week, did a collab with Elmo. Meanwhile, the
Costco guys are still like debating how much money they'll
spend on their Costco trip and interviewing shoppers like they
have this just what ones are running.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
I can't believe guys whose personalities are deals at Costco
didn't have staying power in any way in terms of
public relevancy. How could that be a thing?

Speaker 4 (41:51):
All right, well, Gamra truck.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
So the Wrizzler's gonna die of type two diabetes, I mean,
what are we talking about?

Speaker 11 (41:56):
Right?

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Didn't you also say that, uh, that big aj was
gonna ben wah down the street? I mean, what are
we doing here right.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
In Big ag? Oh yeah, he was gonna ben wam up.
I mean he might you never know.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
But all right, I mean bj Penn got arrested three
times in a few days.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Luke, and this is six days.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Yeah, how do we end up here? I don't know,
but hey, gam Rot, nice win Luke. When we look
up and down the rest of this card, No, this.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Is where we got it. This is where we got
to bring in main card minute Fiscionado. I want to
hear him. I want to hear him spin this one up.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
Oh, I'll spin it for you. I mean, Jordan Levitt
looked great against Kurt Hollibah. Got a nice sub there.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
He did look, he did look Nicemis.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
Brahimaj knock or knocking, choking Billy Ray Golf unconscious.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
That he had a great, very inspiring post fight speech.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Erry inspiring its own.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
Dustin Jacobi also knocked out Bruno Lopez. That was a
fun fight.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah, I mean I didn't think much of you know,
the opponent in this case, but I will he's doing great.
I will say.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
You know, it's a bad card because I was having
trouble figuring out who they were going to get the
bonuses too, and not because there were too many things
to choose from. They were too little. We only had
three finishes, so you can't do four Performance of the nights,
and there was no fucking fight of the night. On
this card. I don't care what anyone says.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
No, there was definitely the fight of that. Why do
you think Jacobe didn't get a bonus?

Speaker 5 (43:15):
I don't know, And I was actually uh, because he's
a mid carter.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
He had the fucking only TKO stoppage on this whole thing.

Speaker 12 (43:21):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
They gave it to Levitt Brahimage, and then they gave
a Fight of the Night to Ardelian Dos Santos, which
I don't think deserved it.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
I don't mind that because it rarely does the very
first fight on a car to ever get Fight of
the night, and so the one time that it does.
But this is what I mean, dude, if you're giving
Fight of the Night to the fucking curtain jerker, holy shit, man,
you must have been suffering for greatness out there.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
You know, Hey, Luke Brahimage had been trading wins and
losses over a ten fights stretch and now has back
to back finishes of Mickey gall By KO and now
they put him to sleep against Connecticut's Billy ray Goff.
When you pair that with the exciting or sorry, the
inspirational speech he gave in that thick, thick Bronx accent.

(44:09):
Should we be looking for him at welterweight or was
this the worst card of all time and it's time
to move on? Thought?

Speaker 2 (44:13):
No, I mean, listen, it's a nice win. He looked.
I mean, he dispatched an overmatched opponent very very quickly.
He did exactly what he was supposed to. It's hard
to say what that means about his total upside. But
nice wins, nice nice speeches. They get you noticed and
it moves him up the chain. Let's see what he
can do next. But good win, and you can't just
say not not. All these wins mean so much about
the next one, at least from the outside looking in.
And this is one of those cases, all right.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
Speaking of Dustin Jacoby in his light heavyweight till against
Bruno Lopes, which lasted just a few minutes, Luke, he
did say afterwards, now with two consecutive knockout victories over prospects,
that he wants to be looked at as a contender
and not just a veteran sort of gatekeeper tough out.
Is this enough to begin that transition where USC starts
to match him against you know, more willing live bodies

(44:58):
in the rankings.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Dustin Jacoby. Yes, So he had that bad loss against
Reyes and then since then he's put together two good
wins in a row. I think that's right.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Yeah, he's thirty seven. It was the Reyus knockout in
the first round, which was right after a loss to
Lonzo Menifield, and it was in a stretch where he
dropped four fights, four losses in five fights.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Right, but he's had two good stoppages in a row.
I mean, I think he's good for action. You know,
it's hard to say exactly what he is beyond that. Remember,
Dustin Jacoby was one of the original guys who did
the Road to Glory series. They were trying to find
American kickboxers and he went and had I think a
modicum of success there certainly. But he's back in MMA
and I think it definitely leveled up his striking. You know,
how good he is ultimately in the division BC is

(45:42):
a little hard to tell, and probably you know, we've
probably seen the highest of the upside. But he's putting
together a nice win streak. He is reliable for action.
He doesn't you know, he doesn't put on boring performances.
He tends to, you know, give you what he has,
keep him busy as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
You know, all right, Kitlyn Vieira at women's bantam weight
missed weaight forfeited twenty five percent of her purse. They
had to make it a one to forty five bout
against Macy scha is On and you know, Vieira dominated
with grappling for the most part and then celebrated like
she won the super Bowl. But do we cut her
at the legs because she missed weight here? Luke?

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, we do. You gotta make weight? Sorry, I mean, no,
gotta make weight.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
And did Jordan Levitt, who did put that anaconda choke
on Kurt holl the ball and put him to sleep
in round one? Did he walk in terms of in
cage torking so that Aileen Perez could run? Luke?

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, I'm a little sick of the torking. Can I
be honest?

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Okay, like all in general, with all Latin women or
just with UFC.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Fighters, just the UFC fighters. Yeah, it's a little You know.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
If you're if your Shakira tickets had come through, there'd
be a there'd be a lot of a lot.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be crying about that, but
you know I've had enough of it in the cage.
You know what I'm saying. All right?

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Anything else you want to say about you have see
Fight Nights Apex's TV deals BC wanting and complaining that
his second favorite sports sucks the horn this year.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Anything else, no good?

Speaker 4 (47:11):
All right, Well, we'll put that behind us here and
let's transition into topic number three, which just might continue
the trend I was just talking about, or maybe it won't.
Let's get Luke's opinion on this Noche UFC, which was
originally scheduled to be a pay per view card UFC
three twenty on Saturday, September thirteenth in Wadalajara, despite constant,

(47:33):
constant rumors that the arena would not be finished its creation,
and after so many concerts and other events were canceled.
Now we're seeing UFC slipping it in as an announcement
during Saturday's APEX card that no Cha UFC is moving
from Wadalajara to San Antonio, Texas. It'll stay on the
same day, it'll no longer be a pay per view fight.

(47:55):
We don't know how that will change the matchmaking. Remember
it appeared as if they Vulcanevsky rematch with Ayer Rodriguez
was going to be rushed into place, not because it
was it was you know, earned or desired, but because
of the Mexican connection. But Luke, a lot of changes here,
and it does connect, by the way, with all of
these still unknown issues related to Turkey Aloshic and Dana

(48:19):
White and TKO boxing, this opens up you know, a
can of worms on that. But let's get into this
actual thing. According to UFC's own message, it appears now
that it's not a pay per view as I mentioned,
Was this the right call for the UFC, considering everything
going on from the arena to the unknown about Canelo
Crawford on the same night, Is this the right move
for the UFC given.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
That this is a blessing they lucked out with this.
Now put the UFC's message up here because I want
to make sure we're talking on the same kinds of terms.
If you can on along island, Luke. This is what
they wrote via tweet. The third Annual Noia UFC will
now take place at the Frostbank Center in San Antonio,
Texas on September thirteenth, That is that Saturday. Doch a

(49:00):
UFC Fight Night Card will celebrate and honor the remarkable
and listen to what they wrote here at the note
JA UFC Fight Night Card will celebrate and on the
remarkable contributions of Mexican fighters to combat sports and continues
UFC's great tradition of holding an event around Mexican Independence Day. Okay,
as BC indicator, Well, I'm sure we'll get to in
a minute. There is, of course, what does this mean
for Dana White now and TKO and Canelo Crawford and

(49:22):
all that kind of stuff. But putting that to the side, BC,
just on the MMA side, UFC should be grateful about this.
They actually caught a break. In my view, we keep
talking about how they're making content that and making events
along lines that are designed for maximum revenue generation or
a broader revenue strategy where we're going to go to

(49:45):
places when they pay us to go in this sort
of highest bidder government contracting sense, rather than taking fights
to cities where that fight makes sense for that city.
But here you have a situation BC where now it's
pairs by the UFC's own language, it's not a pay
per view, so you don't have to make VULK versus

(50:05):
Yaieir two a fight that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
You don't have to do that. Now you can make
Yaiir versus Diego Lopez a fight that makes sense and
is absolutely perfect for this main event of this card.
And San Antonio, Texas has a vast Mexican American population,
as we all know the card. Cheweewe's right, yeah, exactly.

(50:27):
There's a ton of stuff you can do so you
are relieved of that pressure. And as you indicated before BC,
now because it's not a pay per view, you can
then shift your focus for September to a different card
where you can now put on a proper pay per
view event. And I'm sure they had to shuffle some
things around, but I'm saying the fact that they got
to move it out of Mexico is neither here nor

(50:48):
there necessarily, But the fact they got to downgrade it
from a pay per view to a fight Night card
gives them the flexibility they need to do this event correctly.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
It took and Arena not being ready that journalists from
Mexico had told the UFC, including David Shaw, the head
of international there, that comes out to speak in Dana spot.
But even though this is the best choice for them.
Their hand was forced in a lot of ways, right.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah, I mean they they didn't select it this way.
They obviously selected it to go to Mexico, and they
were warned that this was going to be a problem.
We should play this so like Rodrigo del Compo, you
can put the tweet up first. And I'm saying it
like a gringo. But you know, uh, there's Rodrigo. He
asked a question. We'll listen to it just a second.
In March, he tried to tell them that the that

(51:38):
the event in Guadalajara. I asked about assurances for their
date because of delays. Remember we heard about the venue
was told they didn't appreciate that line of questioning. All right, now,
let's go back to that day April twenty first, when
he asked David Shaw about it, and this is how
it went.

Speaker 8 (51:54):
Questions, Hi, David, coming from kind of sports here, obviously
a great announcement that this in this room last year,
said that he was looking forward to the arena being
finished and going to the arena. Yet the arena presents
a one month delayed today. There are a lot of
concerts book between February and March and April. What are
the assurances that the promoter in the internet have given

(52:14):
you for your day to be reserved for the pay
per view.

Speaker 9 (52:17):
I mean, we've been in constant contact with them enough
so to be able to announce tonight. If we weren't confident,
we wouldn't announcing.

Speaker 8 (52:23):
The fight perfect your broadcasting partner now in Mexico. Fox
Sports Mexico has been going through a downfall in the
last few months.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
They're being suited in the US by Conca CAFF.

Speaker 8 (52:33):
They've lost Premier League FA Cup, they had an issue
with the NFL do the lack of payment. It's been
kind of difficult to've been almost sold to the Mordech
family again. What is your current relationship with Fox Sports
Mexico strong?

Speaker 9 (52:44):
If you saw front Row tonight, behind the Octagon data
section front Row and data section, we had a number
of executives from Fox Sports Mexico. The relationship that we've
had with them has been nothing but excellent. They've been
They've been firm supporters of the UFC for very long time.
They invest heavily in content. They you know, build profiles

(53:04):
of our athletes, They help promote our events.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
They've been great, great partners for us.

Speaker 9 (53:09):
You know, have read a number of things in the
newspapers about the status of their business here in Mexico,
and they've given us assurances that you know, we go
through the end of year with them and there'll be
no disruption to the UFC in Fox Sports and Mexico
partnership through twenty twenty five, and you know, just want.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Yeah, interesting, I mean, it's weird here, Luke. They may
have dodged a bullet, but their hand got forced. We
still I mean, people get upset that we don't always
have like all the hard details on here. UFC doesn't
speak publicly on stuff. They've gone quiet for a while
on a lot of this big ticket information. It felt
like this was something that could have been seen coming.
But maybe, like you mentioned, Luke, taking it off pay

(53:50):
per view, not forcing a matchup that isn't necessary. It
will be a blessing in disguise. But this does coincide
with a few things here. Lance Pugmyer of Boxing Scene
did put out a story on Saturday that basically said, look,
we're all waiting for news on whether Canelo Crawford is
still going to be a Turkey Ala CHK slash TKO
Global Dana White Production. But according to Lance's reporting, this

(54:14):
development does open up back the idea that the two
could work together. Still on that same date, September thirteenth,
in Las Vegas, two put on Canelo versus Crawford. What
do you make of this? Because you did have Canelo
Alvas coming out in Spanish at a press conference in
the last week saying he was the one who told
Turkey we can't do this on Friday. My fans are

(54:37):
coming in from Mexico. They need to be able to
come in on Saturday to see it. Also, Canelo said
in that same interview that he told Turkey he's not
fighting anymore in Saudi Arabia. It has to be in
the US. Will we now see Dana in your eyes
in Turkey partner together? Is it's still too unknown.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
At this Yeah, that one's still too unknown. I don't
exactly understand how they can get that one back together.
I mean, I guess, I guess if it's a fight
night and not a pay per view, there's less pressure
on Dana to be there, is the idea, And also
you're not trying to grow the Mexican market as much
if you pull out from there. I mean, I'm sure
there still are more broadly, but I'm saying on that night,
they're not. They're putting it back in San Antonio, So

(55:15):
you know, I guess it relieves Dana of having to
even though they're on the same day. Does he have
to prioritize the UFC event at all times if it's
a fight night This is what I mean about getting
a if it's a pay per view, even then he
could still prioritize Canelo Crawford over it, but it makes
it a little bit harder, especially if you get your
pound for pound or you know, one of the top
pound for pound guys in the sport competing on it.

(55:38):
But if it's a fight night card and none of
those concerns are in play, then who gives it? Damn
just do whatever you want. It certainly frees it up
in that sense.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
I think you've got to say here that the choice
of changing from pay per view to fight night feels
aggressively like it's opening up the door to go ahead
to head. Dana said he wouldn't go head to head
with a pay per view. This feels like if they're
throwing a bone back to maybe like and I don't
know if it'll end up on Netflix. I don't know
if Kennella Crawford will ever be as big as they

(56:06):
say it will be, because right now it's only a
few months away and there's no date, no network, no sight,
and really not a lot of buzz going on to it.
But this does feel like that opens the door and
maybe this TKO boxing thing is still alive.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
So yeah. I mean, people wanted to make the big
deal to be that it went from Mexico to Texas.
That's not the big deal. The big deal is that
it got downgraded from pay per view to fight Night.
That opens up a range of new possibilities that they
just were kind of locked into before.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
Well, dude, this is a weird year, man, really really.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Soup dude, this is the strangest fucking time in combat
sports that I've maybe ever seen, and I mean that
very sincerely.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
I mean I've seen some really bad years where it's
just like, you know, the money wasn't coming in for combat. Yeah,
there's some big fights, but it's just the momentum is down.
This is much deeper because obviously look at the cross
pollination between Turkey kind of controlling by but we've got
questions whether he'll you know, pair with TKO and everything
going on. The apathy in general for everything is as

(57:07):
low as possible. Boxing isn't going to enter it. Kind
of a dark month here in June. I hope we
pull out of this.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Okay, Yeah, well, don't worry BC. I'm told that monopolization
only leads to good things.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
So dude, do you know though that, like, just real
quick on this Okay, the ww let our truth go
Yesterday a long time performer who yes is fifty five
years old, but is like this long term fan friendly
comedic character, locker room giant, and this is the I
think that's the bridge too far. The amount of backlash

(57:39):
I'm seeing now on social media against TKO for specifically
how much their you know, value extraction model removes the
soul from all the things we love. Dude, WWE fans
are unhappy and not backing down. Look, why are we
not getting that same response from him make fans? I
don't know, It's wild. It's as if they're like, yeah,

(57:59):
this is.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Dude. I see people like, you know, every time there's
one of these cards, it's like super irrelevant, and people like,
who's gonna watch this card? And I'll read the comments
and half the comments are you know, it sucks. But
I've got nothing else going on in my life and
I don't watch TV or movies or you know, I
guess interact with friends, and therefore like this is the

(58:21):
only thing I told you, Like, there's a certain kind
of person that's become. It's probably sports wide actually, to
be honest with you, but certainly you can see in
the combat sports that have this passive relationship of baby
bird being fed constantly. You know, it's a dopamine hit.
Like on social media, you're just constantly looking for new tweets,

(58:41):
constantly looking for new posts on ig so you can
get this constant stimulation rather than like having a life,
you know what I mean. It's actually, honestly, it's kind
of sad, it is.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
And do you know how many people are like BC,
you're way too harsh on Saudi and TKO. Why don't
you want them in boxing? They're gonna make huge fights.
The temperature of what's going on in MMA and pro
wrestling right now, just check it.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Yeah, I'm sure it's great for boxing that the biggest
fight in the last several months has been Caleb Plant
Armando Racendi's I'm sure that that's a great thing for boxing, more.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Like Race Anddy's nuts. Luke. I couldn't fit that into
the broadcast on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
I see, there was a couple of ones you had.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
I had an off night. I had an off night.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Oh no, no, you called. First of all, you called
Cornflake a fucking Connecticut legend, which I was like, get
the fuck out.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
I called Willie Pep a Connecticut legend. Cornflakes from New Jersey,
that's right.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Because Marrow then called you a Connecticut legend. I was like, Marrow,
you're really reaching here, motherfucker. You had another one during
that Cornflake fight. I forget what it was, and I
was like, wow, dude, he almost got fired for that one.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
No, there was no almost got firing. There were like
two moments where I attempted to bring in a zinger
at the wrong time as there were developments in the fight.
So it made me look like an asshole, and I
deserve it. Look I deserve it.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I don't know about that, but I'll go back and
find it. But you had another one. I was like,
he's really reaching don't.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
I don't think it was really that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
But no, who did you say? You said race? And
D's looked like Mario Lopez. I was like, that's quasi racist.
But that's all right?

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
How was that quasi racist? When Mario Lopez then tweeted
out uh from the broadcast of me, saying that as
he was celebrating, I know he look I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Get it to someone like you. They all look alike.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Oh my god, this guy, I mean, you know, why
don't I just come back with this Luke.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Okay, you know, I'm just teasing. I'm just teasing Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
All right, Hey, look, let's go to topic number four,
which was the surprising big developments in Saturday's PBC on
Prime Video boxing card, of which yes, your boy BC
was on the call, and in that main event. We
thought this card was a set up to take us
to a Caleb Plant versus Jermal Charlow grudge match, and
by the way, we still could be on the road

(01:00:49):
to that despite the results. But Caleb Plant, despite being
a heavy betting favorite, came up empty against an Armando
Raycendes who was determined moving up in wait and really
never said die now. Luke Prisindy's was known for his
pressure fighting. He came in this time though a very
relaxed demeanor. He actually boxed, increased the pressure over time,

(01:01:10):
and unfortunately for Caleb Plant the one big negative in
his game, the fact that he does fade late against
pressure fighters, really came into play here. It goes down
in the end as a split decision win for race Endes,
even though eight rounds to four seems to be the
general opinion of most, including the scorecard that I have
as well. How bad of a loss in your eyes

(01:01:33):
is this for Plant? And at age thirty three, is
it enough to question whether not only his best days
are behind him? But you know, with the second child
on the way, there's some whispers of people saying, maybe
he should be maybe he should be done, Maybe this
should be the beginning of the end. Do we overreact
for a guy who's only fault once a year in
recent years? How did you respond to Saturday Night?

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:01:54):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
This was a weird one. First of all, the fight
itself was actually pretty good, very good.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Caleb Plant is you know, usually not in bad fights,
like their fun fights. One way or the other typically
and actually this might have been the most enjoyable fight
all weekend MMA or boxing, depending on your perspective. But
you know, it certainly was the co main event to
me on that card was but we'll talk about that
in a second. But I have mixed feelings BC, and
I wonder if you do too. On the one hand,

(01:02:21):
when I went back, cause I didn't see the fight live,
and I had seen all the reactions, so I was like,
all right, let me go watch. I watched it last
night on the couch and I'm looking at Plant through
the first four rounds and I'm like, how did he
lose this fight? And it's like, oh, right, Well, after
the first four rounds, everything basically changes. But even late
into the fight, BC, he didn't look slow. He didn't

(01:02:42):
look like he was laboring with his movement, you know
what I mean. He still had some snap to him,
but he just seemed like his skills declined. And maybe
that's because they had a bad camp, maybe because it
was a short camp, maybe they didn't really plan properly
for what rays and D's we could offer them. But
like a couple of things, BC, he didn't Caleb Plant

(01:03:04):
until like, you know, the latter third of the fight,
couldn't keep his hands up and kept getting tagged with
right hands from Race Anddz as a consequence. And I'm like,
I know he does the load thing because he likes
to go load to high with the jab, and he's
got that kind of shoulder roll half Philly shell style,
but it wasn't working against a guy with that kind
of forward pressure. That was the first thing I noticed, also, BC,

(01:03:25):
and I went back and I looked at this. I
don't think he threw anything more than a three punch
combo the entire fight. Great double jab, right hand, jab,
cross hook, you know, you name it. He was never
putting four and potentially five punches together. And in certain fights,
maybe against it was Kateegy, maybe against early in the

(01:03:47):
fight against Benavidez, you saw him putting a little bit
more into it, and in this one he just seemed
out of ideas. So there's that, and then there's the
last part BC, which is, I don't know. I'm not
a Race and DZ historian. He looks like a tough guy.
Twenty six clearly was ready for this opportunity, but in

(01:04:07):
looking at with some of his other fights, he did
not look to me like a home run hitter of
a puncher, and yet Plant was just getting shook up
by it. So it seemed to me that his skills
just weren't where they needed to be for this fight.
For whatever reason, I don't know what happened to his
punch resistance, and the combination of the two just made

(01:04:28):
for a weird result.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
It totally did. And Planet is thirty two, not thirty three,
as I mentioned, But that doesn't necessarily change what we're
talking about right here. The fact that now in his
last five fights he's two wins and three defeats understandable
when you're talking about Canelo Alvarez and David Benavetez. But
Rac and D's wasn't known for that. His biggest work
he had done was that one sixty, even though he
turned pro at light heavyweight and has fought as high

(01:04:50):
as one hundred and eighty three pounds in the past.
But I think the difference was he came in to
win the biggest fight of his career, which he ended
up pulling off. He brought an insanely large crowd from
his hometown in Niarete, Mexico, with him. They completely dominated
the way in on Friday at the Mandalay Bay. They
made their presence known on Saturday, best shape of his career.

(01:05:10):
But I think you got to give a lot of
credit to trainer Manny Robliss, who was of course world class,
for helping Rac and D's not just be that aggressive
guy who throws twenty punches more per round than the
super middleweight average. He was patient, He knew. They had
to know that if you can get Plant into the
later rounds, that a lot of the constant movement Plant
does the circling away. I mean, he uses a lot

(01:05:32):
of effort and a lot of his movements, and I
do think it plays into stamina, dump down the stretch
and fights that he's not controlling and dominating. We saw
that in the losses to Canelo and Benavidez. We saw
that in his breakthrough title win in twenty nineteen against Uskatagi,
where he really had to bite down in the final
rounds at thirty two. I don't think this is enough

(01:05:53):
to say it's over. And I don't think it's enough
to say Rac and D's only look that great because
because Plan is no longer good. But to some degree,
both things were true and they gave us this result.
You do have a lot of people saying, as I
mentioned earlier, that Plant fought once in twenty twenty four,
once in twenty twenty three, once in twenty twenty two,

(01:06:13):
hasn't fought twice in a year since twenty twenty one.
So is it that lack of consistency building momentum? Was
he just cold? Was he on a single night? Was
he overlooking Rayce and D's because of all the talk
for this big charlot fight. Either way, it was eye opening,
it was alarming. Now we can see the scorecards here.
David Sutherland is certainly other under fire. The third judge

(01:06:35):
who had at one fifteen, one thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
That's insane that he gave the last three rounds to
Caleb Plant.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
Well, that's insane, dominated largely down the stretch. So you know,
Caleb Plant really entered the championship rounds where he's known
for fading in the worst spot down on the cards
on most people's eyes, against Race and D's, and he
wasn't able to rally. I think you're right on a
few things. You mentioned one punch at a time not
gonna work. You know, he's not known as a big puncher,
although under Breadman Edwards he's been sitting down on his

(01:07:04):
shots more. He turned to an inside style against McCombe
and knocked him out. But I think Raycindes was not
there to be hit, and I think the fact that
Plant threw every single punch at a time was because
Rayce and Des was countering with combinations, and I think
Plant realized that he couldn't stay in there against that power.
But look, if you really want a detailed thing on
what might have happened, there's an absolutely incredible interview with

(01:07:26):
Stephen Bredman Edwards, the trainer of Caleb Plant. But known
really more right if you read his boxing scene weekly
call him as just a smart mind in this game.
He gave one of the most candid interviews I've ever
seen to a group of reporters in which he said
a few things, not just moving forward. Does he wish
if he stays with Caleb, that he could take Caleb
from the beginning of the camp and have full control.

(01:07:48):
I don't know if that's speaking to the idea that
Caleb is co trained by his father Ritchie, and Caleb
doesn't spend full time in training Cab with bread right,
they visit each other, but his dad also trains him.
Maybe there's part of bread Man that isn't getting the
message all the way through that he wants. But Luke
Bredman identified two things that were concerning. He said, one
Caleb's skin and reactions to punches from Race and D's

(01:08:12):
that didn't actually appear to be that hard. Was concerning
to it that Plant wasn't necessarily showing the durability in
the in the positive response in those moments. And then
he also mentioned about the lack of output overall. We
do have sound from Caleb Plan in which he, you know,
made it seem like it's kind of just one off night.
He thought he had an argument to win. Let's listen

(01:08:33):
to Kayleb Plant.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
His great fight tonight. Close fight felt like it could
have went either way.

Speaker 13 (01:08:39):
But you know it's lived by the sword, die by
the sword, and the judge's seen how they've seen it.
And you know, I'm not the type to make any excuses.
I left no stone unturned this camp, put it, put
it all in, paid a lot of money for camp,
did a lot of work, a lot of running, and
so you know, obviously I'm disappointed, but wanted to make
sure I come out here, and you know, I said,

(01:09:00):
piece came and see you guys, and you know I
still got you know, I still get a lot of
love from the fans, and you know, I think I've
earned the respect over the years, and obviously right now,
I'm just disappointed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
So in life, I'm a winner.

Speaker 13 (01:09:14):
You know, if you look at where I started, what
I've been through, and what I've had to accomplish to
get here, It's taken a lot, and I feel like
if anybody is the man for the job, it's me. So,
like I said, I'll regroup on my team. We'll get
right back to work. And I'm not easily discouraged.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
You know, two boxing's biggest stars.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Look, we know how mentally tough he is with his
own trainer, talking about maybe the one fight a year thing.
Maybe you know, he gets active that this could turn around.
I'm gonna lean more towards one off night. Maybe not
the best training camp, maybe partially overlooking the opponent. Maybe
the opponent performed better than we expected. But I'm not

(01:09:56):
gonna lie. From what I'm reading on the internet, which
is a lot of people from fans to connected insiders,
basically saying they kind of feel like, not only is
the best of Plant behind him, but without being a
power puncher for a style that's heavy on movement but
staying in the pocket a lot, they don't see a
sustainable future for him. I'm not gonna go that far

(01:10:16):
after hearing him say, look, I don't discourage easily. I'll
be back. Do you think fighting two three times a
year could get him back into the elite shape we
expect there?

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Yeah, but he's got to bring a better skill set again.
I I I didn't. I saw just better elusiveness against
Canelo and Alan. Granted that was four years ago, it's
been some wear and tear on the the tread.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
He took a beating against straight up took a beating.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Yeah, I mean he looked good for the first six rounds,
but the last six were terrible. I mean it was.
I mean, the fact that he survived was remarkable. And dude,
in the fifth round here he got tuned up by
race ends. I mean that was I was amazed he
didn't go down from that to be perfect consot. I
haven't seen him wabble that bad. Maybe since he fought
he had been a betez for being honest. So you know,
to me, it's like there's a lot of things you

(01:11:00):
need to get tightened up again. The good news is
BC he did not physically look shop worn in the
sense of how well he could move and the speed
at which he could move. That all looked pretty good.
He still had some zip and pop in his legs,
and that's what you want. But he didn't wear the
punch as well, and he did not have many either
offensive or even defensive answers. And that's not going to

(01:11:21):
be enough against even a diminished Charlo or whoever else
in the division they can give him a fight against.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
Yeah, let's see the clowning here from Edgar Berlanga, who's
been in a constant feud with Plant, but they've been
unable to sign a fight against each other. Berlanga putting
out the Caleb Plant pack of buds there and weed. Luke,
that'll I guess if you smoke that, you'll get well.
You won't get put to sleep. Plant didn't get put
to sleep. He was competitive in a loss, but it

(01:11:48):
certainly was a step back. Now, Luke, Jamal Charlie, I
didn't think.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
I didn't think this fight was that competitive. I did
not think it could go either way. I think four
rounds is generous.

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
Okay, there's a difference when I say competitive between competitive
on the scorecards means in my eyes, it's that the
judges were giving rounds either way. But it can be
a twelve to nothing fight that's competitive within each round.
Do you know what I'm saying. I thought it was good.
The rounds were competitive, but he was losing them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I never thought that Plant was getting abused, but I
did not think that he was in it by round
nine or ten. I can assure you that well.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
In that co main event, Jamal Charlo handled his business obviously,
though against a lower tier opponent in Thomas Cornflake Lamana,
who sins being one punch ko by Arislandi. Laara did
win nine straight fights they were on the regional circuit. Luke,
this fight got lambasted coming in.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Yeah, it should have. This fight was stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
Yeah, it took a lot of hits afterwards, with Lamana
just not being remotely on Plants level. I'm sorry on
Charlo's level. But with that said, Luke, before we tie
this into the future for a Plant Charlo matchup, were
you impressed by what we did see? From the thirty
five year old Charlo, from the poise, the heavy jab
that he's known for, and just in general, Look, it's

(01:13:01):
not prime Jamal Charlo, but is this is still a
title contending Jamal Charlo in a new weight division at
one sixty eight?

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
In your eyes, I don't think there's any way to
really know. I mean, he had a little bit of
loose change on him. He did not look to be
in the terrible shape. No, by any stretch. No, he
did not look to be in terrible shape, but not
traditionally good shape. He's traditionally looking traditionally looks a little
bit leaner. He had a little bit of loose change
on him. I'd say that first and foremost. Second of all,
it's just really hard to know against an opponent of
this quality. I mean, dude, corn Flake seems like a

(01:13:31):
nice guy. But what the fuck was that fight? Like
he had no he got dropped in the third and
the fourth and the fifth, yeah, you know what I mean,
And like they were like not all. I mean, what
was the one. I think it was the one in
the fourth or the fifth. It wasn't the first one.
He literally was right on the ropes. He gets the shot,
he gets his hand up, the punch hits the glove.
It split it a little bit, but it mostly landed

(01:13:52):
on the glove and it's still knocked him down. And
I was like, Okay, what the fuck are we doing here?

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
Yeah, his legs were gone at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
I mean it was I mean, it's like, it's like,
did Charlo And by the way, Charlo could have got
him out of there much earlier, and I think wanted
to get some rounds, which fine, but you're asking me
to make like a declaration about what we can learn
from there. It was nice to see him put together
the pieces of something back together again, you know. But
I don't know what to say beyond that. I just

(01:14:19):
it's hard to put any of this into context.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
Well, I'll give him credit. Look getting back after the hell.
He's been through mental health issues. He's talked to openly
about bipolar disorder in the past. He had a bad divorce,
he had substance abuse issues. I mean, he went through
hell and back mentally and physically. So to be back,
that's great. To see the smile on his face afterwards,
to see him speak a positive message about mental health
and especially in the African American community. Alan Dawson, our friend,

(01:14:44):
had a great interview with Charlo coming in about how
you know there's a stigma against mental health, but specifically
in that community. So to see Jamal speak out on
that all good stuff. And I think a lot of
people came away going, look, he still got it. He's
still got something here. He's a fun fight for a
lot of super middleweight moving forward, whether you're talking about
Berlanga Mongie although he's got issues here, or maybe Caleb Plant. Now,

(01:15:06):
according to Charlo, he did say that Plant dropped the ball.
He also said, hey, even with that loss, I got
to get my look back. I still want that fight.
Let's hear from Jamal Charlow.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
This camp was amazing.

Speaker 14 (01:15:20):
I probably had too much fun this camp. But it's
cool though because you know, uh, that's that's what it's
at about, you know, having fun, giving my all working
and you know, just staying focused. You know, talk to
my mom every day, talk to my my brother, my peers,

(01:15:40):
my friends, CC, hit me up, d D eat me
up every day. Everybody. That's just like being like really
holding me down. Like you know, I just like I
want to say if to my fans and my friends
and people out there. If you ever going through something like,
the worst thing to do is hold it. And it
don't matter who it is. Uh, just talk to someone

(01:16:00):
and that's the best thing you can do and and
try to move forward. Just pray to God that you know,
like he could change the view on things in life.
And that's kind of what I've been doing. And I've
been battling with it. I know, I just got a
VIC three and I got a VIC three maybe a
year ago, and and I've kind of been inactive. But
my goal is to get more active.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
But you know, I was.

Speaker 14 (01:16:20):
You know, I'm still bading some things now, you know,
but I'm not. It's not affected me not to fight.
As you can see, I went in there and still prevailed.
And just want to tell y'all, thank y'all for following me.
Thank y'all for being there with me each and every
step of the way. You know, it's a journey and
I'm still working towards getting making myself better. I'm not perfect,
but my record is boxing's biggest stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Luke, what do you make of what he said that,
while yes we can lambast the idea of marination boxing,
we've done it for years. Going back to your York
Scambo and one my Lopez falling apart when they each
took tune up fights ahead of an expected clash. You
can talk about what just happened in Times Square with
Haini and Garcia. This was I think open to criticism
whether Plant in Charlo should have just been fighting on

(01:17:05):
Saturday Night. I think you can offer that criticism. Does
it kill the matchup? Though, considering where they are in
their age and considering that there is a real grudge
between them, with you know, Charlo pulling on the beard
of Plant back in twenty twenty three and then having
that fight backstage at the Spence Crawford Way, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Still think that they could make that fight. I even
still think you could make Plant Mungia or sorry when
I say mongia a plant to Berloga. I think you
could do either of them. Promotionally, I don't feel like
he sank a lot of what there was there, because
you know, the reason why those fights are interesting are
can only be resolved by making the one fight the other,

(01:17:45):
right like there's not there's no real clear substitute that's
just as good. I mean, there's a few different permutations
of fights that are available, but there's a certain connectivity
between X and Y, and so you have to kind
of see what's up with that. None of that really
got super displaced. But to me it's like, you know,
I don't know who would have been the favorite Plant
or Charlo before the weekend BC, but now it's like,

(01:18:06):
I don't know. I mean, Charlo's a big puncher, and
to your point, he jab was heavy and against a
guy like Plant, if he can't wear the shots of
race Endys, you definitely can't wear the punches of Charlo.
Like it makes me wonder how competitive it is, not
so much like do I want to see it? Yeah, sure,
I would still definitely see it, but my view of
what it actually would mean has changed fairly significantly with

(01:18:27):
just one weekend of fights.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's tough to speak on Charlo
because we only have this one fight in the last
eighteen months and it wasn't against a top tier contender.
But considering that he lost out on super fights with
Canelo twice in the past four years, one where he
wasn't ready, a second time where Canelo just chose a
different opponent. If you look in your crystal Ball. And
we don't know if Canelo's gonna lose this the undisputed

(01:18:49):
championship to Crawford or what's gonna happen. But Canelo this
week did say he wants to fight until he's thirty seven.
Do you think Jamal Charlo ends up getting the Canelo fight? Oh, Jesus,
does play into the type of opponent's Canelo once.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Let's be fair, right, Golly, I hadn't even thought about it,
probably because I hate the idea.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Then the answer is yes, probably, I mean I wouldn't
hate it if he puts together a couple of wins
and looks the part.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
And hopefully if he looks the part, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
Jamel Charlo was also in the ring celebrating with his brother,
and I interviewed him quickly on the postfight broadcast. Look,
I'm happy to say this. The Charlo brothers have been
either each other's best friends and biggest motivators or the
biggest enemy between the two of them. Over the years,
We've seen them have call each other out, and I
mean we've seen some really you know, tough situations where
they didn't talk to each other for a long time.

(01:19:46):
Jermal said that Jermel is the reason why he's boxing again,
that his brother was there for him day after day
to help him. And I don't know if you saw
Lance Pugmyer's reporting over the weekend on Twitter, Golden Boy
and PBC, according to Lance, are talking about well potentially
a comebacking Jermel Charlow at one fifty four against Virgil
Ortiz Junior. Are you in or out?

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
I'm in? Yeah, I'm in. Oh yeah, it's a fun
fight that sounds like a really fun fight and Ortiz
looked really good against Madromov, so yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Indeed, also the close here Luke. PBC will be back
July nineteenth. As they officially announced their pay per view
card on Prime Video, I was able to interview both
Fondora and Zoo, who are going to rematch in the
co main event, Manny Pacio and Mario Barrios in the
main event, and to round out that pay per view,
as was teased, we're going to get Brandon Figuero against
Joey Gonzalez, which should be a brawl, and then a

(01:20:38):
rematch of pit Bull Cruise in on hell Fieriro from
earlier this year. All things considered, even with Pachio at
forty six, Luke, and with me being a PBC homer,
I gotta say I'm excited for this card and it
should be really good and I hope that it is
continued momentum. Are you giving Manny any chance at this point?

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
I mean, you know, you never know with the magic
of pharmaceuticals, But in general, I don't give a shit
about that fight. The rest of the cars. We said
before the rest of the fight, the card looks good.
That main event to me as a.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
Joke, shout out, shout out to everybody involved. Interesting development,
and we have another name now in race and d's Luke,
who's gonna be deserving of a big fight now has
the interim belt there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Just twenty six. Yeah, he's got a break.

Speaker 4 (01:21:20):
Very interesting stuff. Uh, Luke. Is a sequel better than
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Speaker 4 (01:23:55):
Lucas time for topic number five, which is exactly what
we're talking about. Are UFC three sixteen this Saturday, Newark,
New Jersey. Of course, two days from now, we're gonna
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But for today, let's look at some of the biggest
storylines entering this pay per view clash. And look, UFC

(01:24:15):
needs a big weekend, all right, let's do it. So, Luke,
I want you to name one fight, one fighter, one
situation on this card that has you the most intrigued
heading in to the first of two pay per view
events we can expect as UFC fans in June. What
is that one storyline that you're focused on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
The reformation of Sean O'Malley. So one of the reasons
why people might be upset about this fight to a
degree is not that people don't think Morob is good,
Hello he's the champion, or even though O'Malley is good,
hello he's the former champion, but that it happened within
ten months, which is not typically a long amount of time. Typically,
if we're a rematch to be interesting in terms of

(01:24:53):
some of the differences you could get with a second matchup,
a couple of years or more need to go by
before you get a real big difference. But I would
actually say something interesting is kind of happening here. Sean
O'Malley may be only having a ten month difference, but
he appears to be doing any number of major changes
to the way in which he's operating, both in terms
of training, physical health as well as like personal health

(01:25:17):
in a different way, not so much ailment, but centering
his life, so that I think you actually are going
to get something of a different Sean O'Malley. Now, I'm
not suggesting to you that's a reason why he may win.
You still have to kind of match up the x's
and o's as best we understand them. But I guess
the point I'm trying to make here is I actually
do think he's going to come into this with some

(01:25:38):
different ideas about how to fight, with some different ways
in which he prepped, and a different centeredness about self.
And the reason why that's important, B see is twofold
one you actually give him, he's giving himself. Like remember
he had a hip injury apparently, and he wasn't able
to train the right way, and he he I know,
we have some sound to this effect. He kind of

(01:25:59):
made the enemy in a certain way. He's changing enough
things where you do have to reconsider his chances in
a second fight. But here's the interesting part BC. Either
those changes are going to lift him to a new
sense of success, right he actually this will work, or

(01:26:20):
he's going to be doing all of these things and
the results won't be there. And what I've often seen
in my career covering fighters who have done this kind
of thing where they've actually committed their life to change
and then the subsequent result doesn't yield that for them.
They end up going through a bit of another journey
as a consequence, because what's happening is they're telling themselves

(01:26:42):
I'm the man. I couldn't show that I was the
man that night, but with these changes, this can still
help me to believe internally how much that I am
the man. Something that young men and young women may
not appreciate is you will tell yourself something about who
you are for very long period of time, especially if
you're driven to go do things, and then eventually life

(01:27:05):
may reward it, life may not, and if it doesn't,
you then have to reconcile with how many things you
have told yourself over the years that actually were not true.
And when that's not true, who are you? And so
it could lead to him going up to forty five BC.
It could lead to him maybe actually because of the
positive health changes. On a personal level, it won't matter,

(01:27:26):
like he'll actually still be quite happy about who he's
become through that journey. But this is what I want
to say. When you go all in on these kinds
of changes, a it gives you the best chance at
victory in a rematch. But the problem is if those
don't work, you have serious questions to answer for what
you actually told yourself and how it's impossible to believe

(01:27:47):
it going forward, and that could yield a bunch of
different changes as a consequence, an interesting way in which
this main event could yield a variety of outcomes, no
doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
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not jaying the pen. I mean when he could re

(01:28:20):
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Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
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Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
No, what's that term when you recharge and refill?

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
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Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
The satchel and uh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
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Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
Yeah, this's great anyway. Here's the deal, though, Luke, the
history of people that have because this has not been
a tune up fight from O'Malley in between or a
bounce back number one contender fight. He's going right from
a title loss to directly for him, an immediate rematch,
and under circumstances where people you know complained about whether
he was truly deserving. Now you've got him absolutely golong
all in, as you mentioned, where the stakes are pretty high.

(01:28:59):
If he he lose his consecutive title bouts, considering the
star push he received, he's pretty much gonna have to
move up to featherweight, isn't he? Luke right?

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
He doesn't have to, but I wonder if he might
be incentivized too.

Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
Yes, and it might be a situation where he might
be forced to really overhaul a lot of things in
his career. So this is that all In opportunity to
regain what he had. And I do take into account
a few things, the injury, the need for surgery that
he had coming into the first matchup, whether elements of
the sphere you know, affected him in ways that it
didn't Morob, all of these things. I'm excited to see

(01:29:34):
where this goes because we're looking at one of the
biggest potential stars in this game coming off a muted performance.
Now you've got to keep your back off the canvas
against Morob. You've also got to hurt him ultimately. So
this is more intriguing as we are just a few
days out than I expected when this fight was first announced,
but you mentioned we do have some sound from Sean O'Malley.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
May I interject very quickly please. People are like, oh,
he's doing this the same thing that all fighters do. No,
he's not Bjpan. In the rematch for Matt Hughes, they
asked him what he was going to do differently this time,
and he goes, nothing, I'm gonna go surfing. I mean,
I remember this distinctly. He was like, I'm gonna do
absolutely nothing different. Like there are fighters who are like I.
Even if you lost, like I still had the right

(01:30:17):
game plan. I still had the right idea just didn't
come together that night. Blah blah blah. O'Malley's doing the opposite.
He is trying in a short amount of time to
overhaul a bunch and whether it's enough, we'll see. It's
a tough, tough fight. But if you overhaul a bunch
and you still don't get there, it leaves you in
a very strange place oftentimes.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
Sorry about the refractory period, that's what we were thinking of, right, Luke. No, Well,
he's not gonna need that period this time, Luke. Anyway,
let's go to some sound about a strange encounter o'mellyhead.

Speaker 12 (01:30:47):
The owl has been like I randomly got this owl
tattoo on my test. I had a shitty tattoo right here,
and I didn't like it. I told this, I told
the tattoo on my covered up.

Speaker 15 (01:30:54):
He's like, what do you want?

Speaker 12 (01:30:55):
It's like, I don't know what would be there. He's
like some kind of bird. He's like, you fucking tell me.
He put an owl here? And now it's like ever
since I, uh, the last it was the period for
the first period fight I ses, so I watched the
sunset and like this owl came and flew late on
this or was sitting on this wood thing by me, and.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
I was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 12 (01:31:13):
I was so scared to look up what that meant
because I thought it was bad, Like what if that's bad?

Speaker 11 (01:31:17):
I think I've ever seen an owl in my life?

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Yeah, well I looked it up.

Speaker 5 (01:31:19):
It was ever Harry Potter. It's really it was good luck.

Speaker 6 (01:31:22):
You at six am?

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
Is like a fucking owl.

Speaker 6 (01:31:24):
Actually, yeah, that's only howl I've seen.

Speaker 12 (01:31:26):
Yeah, but owls have been coming in and out of
my life in a weird way, like a weird way,
and uh, you know, I moved out to this other
house and there's I have a bunch of owls that
live in these trees around me, so I see him
quite often. Ten days before the Moron fight, there was
a dead owl in my driveway and I was like
that that that can't be good. And I was like,
I was like, I don't know. I didn't want to

(01:31:46):
I didn't want to think about that, but I and
it sounds crazy, but I was like, fuck, I just
didn't feel like I was supposed to win that fucking fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
He's in his own head. He's in his own head
a little bit. This is what I mean. You see
how he's like reinforcing any kind of positivity in there,
because I wonder if there's like a real hardcore element
of doubt that he's trying like a flame he's trying
to extinguish.

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
Like the invincibility in him was damaged. And now you
know he's under maybe he is under a serious refactory period,
just in a different way, you know what I mean.
It's an interesting storyline just the same. But I do
like what he says in this next clip about changing
his mindset and how he looks at Morab And we
know how often in pro sports are really in pick

(01:32:32):
up basketball and anything, Luke, there's a small percentage of
people that can play emotional, fight emotional and benefit from that.
O'Malley seems to be the opposite. Let's hear him another thing.

Speaker 12 (01:32:45):
I just feel like that the second Cheeto rematch there
was like animosity. I really truly want to beat the
fuck out of him. He felt like I really didn't
like him at that time, and I had such a
good performance. It felt so good. I was like, I'm
going to carry that into the mirab like I don't.
I almost forced myself to not like Morob, but it did.
It wasn't like genuine, it was just like so I
felt like I forced that a little bit. And uh,

(01:33:08):
this camp, it's like, I have nothing against Morob. I'm
want to go out there and compete because I love
to compete. I'm an athlete, I'm a high level performer.
I want to go out there and put on a
beautiful performance because I love this sport, not necessarily because
I don't like me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
I mean, that's what I'm talking about. That's good stuff
right there.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
Yeah. Yeah. The dead owl thing and the driveways a
little concerning, Luke, but that's that's refreshing right there. So
you know Morob though, Luke, didn't. He just hurt another toe?
Did you see that? I mean, the guy's just popping
off toes left and right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
I don't know what to say about Morob except he'll
be there. He'll be there.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
He'll absolutely be there, Luke. We're gonna break down these
matchups in depth on Wednesday. But the whole Caleb Kayla
Harrison making weight and looking great doing it and being
effective is a big part of this. I like that
her story is really getting to push this week ahead
of this title fight, and that she we already know,
took on the children of sibling who was going through

(01:34:01):
hard times, adopted them, became a mom, and is really
an inspirational sort of encouraging figure in a lot of ways.
But there's gonna be a big physical task for her
to finally climb this mountain. We're still looking at someone
who can do really great historic things in the sport,
and the idea of her potentially winning this championship and
welcoming Amanda Nunas it's the best news Women's MMA has

(01:34:22):
had in a while. So this Saturday's fight should be
pretty interesting in that regardless.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
I'm telling you. I mean, you know, the whole month
has got a lot of positivity to it, and there
are some is it the best fight the comaine this
month or even the main Is it the best fight
this month? No, probably isn't the best fight this month,
but it's it's a quality main event. It's a quality
co main event for the most part, and interesting storylines
all the way through.

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
You got patchie mix, you got Joe Pifer's dislike for Mexico.
We got a few things to focus on. On Wednesday's
pregame came, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
It's amazing to me that he's like, I don't want
to fight in Mexico. You know what, let me go
fight in Newark. Guys. Yeah, Newark is not an improvement,
well you terrible news for everybody Newark.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
Pan will give you all those same water issues you
had there and uh.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
Yeah, and you'll get stabbed up on the walk home
to the to the subway.

Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
So we catch diesels too on the way. That'd be
fantastic right there. But you know, the patchy mixed storyline
very interesting. Can't wait to break this all down come Wednesday,
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Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
I don't know, they're both pretty. It's like computer jizz.

Speaker 4 (01:36:30):
Eh. You know it's okay, right, Hey. Our first one's
from Johnny Underscore Thump. If you're Aaron Blanchefield, Johnny asked,
do you call for the Manon Pharaoh rematch or shoot
for the Natalia Silva matchup? What is the easier route
to the title shot in your eyes?

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
Luke Thomas, Yeah, I don't go back to the Manon
fight she got. She was fighting a brick wall that night.
I was a terrible im unless you feel like you
can really advance past it at this point. But dude,
Manon is a tough out. You already lost to her.
Try try a different route. I I don't go back
to that at all.

Speaker 4 (01:37:04):
Yeah. But as we talked about, Luke, if the next
two fights for val are Jeonggwi Lee and then in
already deserving to some degree, Natalia Silva, it all comes
down to whether UFC says, Aaron, you have to go
through Menoon a second time because the title is not
going to be available for a while, or maybe Jongwei

(01:37:24):
Lee does get the next one. Is there any world
in which they tell in Natalia Silva you have to
go through Minnown yourself to get the Toits.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Unlikely. I would bet against that Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
Okay, but he wanted to know, if you're Aaron, what
would you do, Luke? And probably stay spicy and cold
blood it would be the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
Right, Get, try to get a fight booked, Get out
of Jersey maybe no, get to leave Jersey permanently. Okay,
and never go back there.

Speaker 4 (01:37:53):
You go, shout out to Aaron Blanchfield. Let's hear from
Eric Bolden. He says, what would be the odds for
a Kayla Harrison versus Amanda fight if Kayla demolished payinya first? Furthermore,
could that fight headline a UFC pay per view and
do decent numbers if the undercart is solid.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
It's a good question for a resident gambling expert and
boyfriend of the year. What do you think? What's the
in the scenario that they're positing? Give me a line.

Speaker 5 (01:38:22):
All right, So Kayla just first round finish over Juliana.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Let's say, let's say it's a round and a half,
but it's just a fucking beat.

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
Down rounded pound. It's a joke from behind.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Yeah, I'm not just that gets the takedown, passes the
dominant position and just works her over.

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
It's tough just because Amanda is going to be coming off. However,
many a year layoff now, like how long has she
been out, It's probably gonna be two years by the time.

Speaker 4 (01:38:42):
Two years. I think it's two years for old Mandy. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:38:45):
Yeah, and she's up there in age if I'm not mistaken,
over thirty five, right.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
Yeah, she's also the greatest of all time. So take that.

Speaker 5 (01:38:53):
I mean, dude, if she could stop the takedown, this
is Amanda's fight, I'm gonna still fuck man, this is
a tough one to line. I'm gonna say Kayla Harrison
is still the dog, but it's close. I'll say she's
like plus one ten Amanda minus one thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
I'd go a little higher. I'd go Amanda like minus
one ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
Well, she the striking, she would have a potential dominant advantage.
But Luke, look, outside of the first Valentina fight in
round three and maybe the second GDR fight, we've never
really seen Amanda like handled consistently on the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
There might be a couple more than that one, but yeah,
I mean it's few and far between, certainly. I Mean.
The issue is this like one of the things we've spotlighted,
and we'll talk about it on Wednesday. Penya has terrible
takedown defence from a statistical point of view, so you know,
it's hard to know what that might mean if Harrison

(01:39:52):
struggles against her but wins in terms of getting the takedown.
You're like, Oh, you're not going to get the takedown
on Amanda. Yes, you know what I mean. That's different
kind of conversation just.

Speaker 4 (01:40:02):
For age purposes. Kayla Harrison will turn thirty five on
July second, and Amanda Newness just three days ago turned
thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Still she can punch, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
Yeah, I'm with you on that now. The final question
from Eric Bolden there was could it be a main
event on its own? I mean it could be, but
I would think it would be a comane a to
a pretty good title fight.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
And be a large Yes, but if need be, it
could headline.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
Yes, Like, doesn't this kind of feel like the perfect
ifw Comaine or am I.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
No, it would under that scenario would be a perfect one.
But you know, I don't know if they're gonna wait
that long or what's gonna at that point.

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
Our third DM comes in from lower case three. He says,
who are the fighters that make up the top five
chins in active current MMA, and what about historically if
a Tory comes to mind for current fighters, considering he
gets nuked and stays standing, Yeah, he's got a help
for modern UFC right now active fighters. But Tory's got
a hell of a beard.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
Ell the Tory, I mean it's been cracked now, but
it's you know, historically speaking, even though he's still relevant.
Max Max Holloway's chin has been fucking legendary.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
John Jones, maybe Luke.

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
John Jones has a phenomenal chin, you know, who just
never gets hurt hardly at all. Trying to think like
who else had like a really good chip. I mean, dude,
like some of these guys like they're not really relevant anymore,
you know, but Stepe had a phenomenal chin. But honestly,
like the beginning of the chin conversation historically starts with
No Garra. No Gerra has had the maybe the most

(01:41:34):
amazing chin I've ever seen at any way, class just
an absolute demon to deal with. Josh Neer early on
had a good chin. Nelson, Roy Nelson had a ridiculous chin.

Speaker 4 (01:41:48):
A lot of these mark up there, who Mark Hunt
for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
Yes, yes, he had a good chin as well. I
mean again, you know, you have to kind of define
the era in which it was their best because you
see them when he gets cracked and it's not the
same anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:42:01):
But big Nog, dude, prime, Big Nog is just in
you said it, good Lord, that's that might be my
pick for the greatest chin ever because those Pride fights
were just.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
The Gara fought a nearly four hundred pounds sap who
like separated his vertebrae on the first spike of the
goddamn fight, like dude, and he didn't won it, you
know what I mean, Like he's just insane. It's a
different level of physical punishment.

Speaker 4 (01:42:26):
You can talk, hey, to try to bring a female
into this, Do you put Juliana Pina in there?

Speaker 6 (01:42:32):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:42:34):
No, do you put anybody in there?

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
You know, just go on. Rog has a respectable chin. Yeah,
but it's been tapped. Yeah no, I know more recently
it's become more of a liability. But she's been hit
with some big shots.

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
And Joe way Lee took her out quick, Luke.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
I know, I know now it's not the case, but
there had there was a time. There was a time
where she.

Speaker 4 (01:42:56):
Was I mean before it went Liddell could could take
a bomb Ladell.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Well maybe Liz Carmouche had a decent chin for a while,
she could take a big shot.

Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
Yeah all right, all right, that's great. It was great
talking to you on this one. Let's hear from what
the hell russell question with missus Luke Thomas being of
Colombian descent.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Columbia spelled wrong, it's Columbia.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
Can Luke actually dance? Or does a gangster still? Just
bounce a little? Now, Luke? It's been established on this
show that I will tear up your wedding reception dance
floor and make it all about me. But can Luke
move if he needs to?

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
I can sulsa only because I've taken many, many salsa lessons.
That's it. So you know, do I freestyle? And can
I freestyle?

Speaker 5 (01:43:44):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
No, it's a disaster.

Speaker 4 (01:43:45):
Wait, okay, we're at a wedding reception, all right, Yeah,
we just finished eating, we're drinking, we're laughing with each other,
and then like a traditional classic dancing banger for the
old people, it might be like celebration or something. For me,
who's also an old person but a different era, it's
gonna be gonna Make You Sweat by C and C
Music Factory. Let's say that song hits Luke. We're at

(01:44:07):
the reception together, our wives, gravised by the arms, we
head out to the dance floor. You don't have like
a little bit of like just to sid like I
don't mean to bring in the trump dance, but like
something like that, just a go to safe movie, you mean.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
Like safe white guy, hold position, don't embarrass yourself, kind
of like a tread water thing. Yes, I've got a
tread water thing. Okay, but I can't like commit, you
know what I mean. I can only commit under like
very very narrow circumstances.

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
Okay, okay, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
But dude, they they they you know, it's what do
you want to say? It's a festive time. You gotta
be ready, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
Would you say Columbian people in general can really dance?

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Or is that Yes, it's the thing that you don't
really understand. I didn't fully understand, and like how can
that be? Like, is you know they're not born that way.
It's just such a part of everything early on in
their life, both like at school and in so they're
always dancing. There's like something dance is just a big
element of life, broadly for young, for old, for every

(01:45:09):
everything everything. So yes, it's it's so pervasive that you
know they are just better at it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:15):
Right, would your wife be angry at Aileen Perez's post
winning theatric dancing in the UFC cage upset?

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
I don't think she'd be upset at it. She might
have some choice words about it, but I don't think
she'd be upset about it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:28):
Okay, that's great. Finally from von Beckel, are you guys
doing any camping this summer or are you city rats?

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
So my family's been asking me to take them camping
for maybe a solid year now.

Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
And this is real camping, like drive to a campsite,
put up a tent, right, You're not talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
Like all right, So I'm glad you brought I'm glad
you asked that because, first of all, I was an
eagle scout in the Boy Scouts, Right, So I was dude.

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
When it comes to things like yeah, debate team sergeant
in the Marines, it eagle scout.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
Yeah, so I was an eagle scout.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
I got it? How old was I? I got it?

Speaker 16 (01:46:07):
Before?

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
I that was fifteen sixteen something like that. I think
I just started I had second year of high school,
so something like that. But I definitely did it. I
was actually quite bitter about it because I had a
single mom at the time, as everyone probably can recall
me talking about, and I never had they do it
like this is the voice of the Eagle thing when

(01:46:29):
you get it, and I never had an eagle ceremony.
So they gave me the patch. I was able to
wear it, and I actually I might even have it
stole in my closet somewhere. I had. Do you know
the differences between the Boy Scouts and the Explorers. The
Explorers is like for older people and it's actually co
ed and you wear a green shirt on a brown one.
So I had that.

Speaker 4 (01:46:44):
Yeah, the Explorers, well I did.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
After that. After that, I was like, I think I'm
done with this part of my life. And that's when
I actually had the year after that when actually I
had my first serious girlfriends. So it actually kind of
happened right like that. But in any case, between that
and the Marine Corps, where I literally one time had
to get hospitalized because of the number of mosquito bites
on my face and head, I've I've I don't like

(01:47:08):
being out in the elements anymore. I don't. It's I
had to deal with so much suffering that I it
made me kind of like, I hate it. To be
honest with you, I told him that you.

Speaker 4 (01:47:22):
Would say anything positive about camping.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Well, what I told him was, I'll do like the
half thing where you can rent like a yurt. He
was seeing these things called yurts, or you can do
glamping is what they call it. I told him, I'll
do that. I'll do that, but I'm not I'm not
buying a tent to fucking dicks and then setting it
up and then getting chewed to death by fucking mosquitos.
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:47:40):
I'm chiming in here to say that my family we
go camping like every summer. We're going in a few weeks.
And camping is great, man, sleeping, you get a nice pet,
you just sit in front of the fire all day,
drinking beers.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
I mean, it's good time for Do you hear yourself?
Do you realize I have a child like I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:47:59):
All my nieces and nephews come. They range in ages
from two to fourteen.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
Or are you watching them?

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:48:05):
Sometimes you're not my kids sometimes sure, but I have
to say Luke.

Speaker 4 (01:48:11):
Back when we really didn't have money for you know,
what you would consider normal vacations or expensive vacations, we
did a lot of family camping when the kids were small.
We did a full week at a Kadia National Park
in Maine, and it's it's a it's weird, it's amazing.
At the end, you're like, wow, that was an incredible experience.
But it's a lot. It's a lot of work to

(01:48:32):
spend a whole week sleeping outside and.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
It's to be me and me and to to Columbiana's
like what, you think they're going to help me set
up the tent. Yeah, you think they're going to help
me make the fire? Like I have to do everything.

Speaker 4 (01:48:42):
It was great when my kids are small. I feel
like once we could afford not to camp, we stopped.
But I do miss it. It is a lot of setup,
it's a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
And again I don't have a tent, I don't have
a sleeping bag, I don't have any gear. So now
we have to go buy all this gear, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:48:56):
Yeah, I mean there is something about once it's all
set up and you're looking at the lake and you're
sitting in your chair, the fire's going. I mean, it
is pretty awesome. Luke, turn that phone off, right, connect
with nature.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
The part is great. That's what I'm saying. If I
could do a glamping scenario where I don't have to
bring half of these provisions, we'll talk about it.

Speaker 4 (01:49:13):
But all right, I don't. I don't think that's the
most manly response you've had, though, considering you're an ex
Marine sergeant who survived Paris Island.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
Right, Uh, dude, I'm telling you like I had to
sit in the back of a five ton in New
Jersey at Fort Dix one time. They didn't have a
lid on the five ton and it was snowing and
freezing rain, and we had to ride on the back
of that bitch for hours. Dude. I it's like I
remember that night going to bed, and because we actually
made it back to the motor pool and I got

(01:49:40):
in my sleeping bag, and I remember I just could
not get warm. Hour after hour I just sat there freezing.
And then the next one, the summer hits, I had
to get hospitalized because I couldn't open my eyes for
the amount of mosquitoes that had feasted on me during
the course of that evening. It's like, dude, you go
through a few of these experiences, You're like, it's not
that money outside, it's just not.

Speaker 4 (01:50:00):
Here we go. That was your DMS from Donks. Thank
you for playing. A reminder that you can reach our
program by emailing Morningcombat at gmail dot com. We will
not have a show this Friday programming update obviously, as
we'll have Wednesday's pregame preview, but the following week you
better believe we're coming strong with fansubmissions and dead wrongs
and maybe you guys showing Mikey your package, but please don't.

(01:50:23):
Our final segment involves me scouring the internet like I
did yesterday during that brief break between flights in Dallas
at the Admiral's Lounge, Shout out American Airlines, where I
put together enough weird videos to try to make Luke uncomfortable.
This one's called BC's specs, who uh indeed, Luke. We

(01:50:50):
start with the quote of the week and it comes
from Mike Bones interview with the one and only Derek Lewis.

Speaker 17 (01:50:56):
If the guys called me out, you know, so, I
think what I need to start doing now once I
knocked guys out. Stop putting my finger in the ass.
You know it's people alone to call me out afterwards.
You know, if I stop putting my finger in my
opponent asked why they knocked down on the ground. I
don't think nobody won't call me out anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
No, no, deed nod. I guess that's funny if you're five.

Speaker 4 (01:51:21):
Oh, come on, that's great stuff from that man. He's
known for that. Come on.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
Yeah again, I guess it's funny if you I've been
exposed to lead at an early age.

Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
All right, Luke, sorry about that. You know who's under
fire this week on the Old Twitar Tayo Fema Lopez.
One week after brawling over the Internet with Turkey Ala Chic,
Tayo is getting ripped for this tweet Saturday to his
Excellency turkeyla Chic, I take full responsibility for my inappropriate
words on the x app. I publicly apologize to h E.

(01:51:52):
I will conduct myself with greater respect, humility, and professionalism.
Sending love and light to all hashtag boxing except.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
Except African Americans, but yes to everybody else. He probably is.

Speaker 5 (01:52:03):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:52:03):
Does this look like the way the boxing public is
receiving it that you talk all that junk until it
comes time to lose money, and now you're back kissing
h E's ball bag.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
Yeah, Tato is a great boxer and seems to be
a terrible person, but I guess we'll see how that
can be. That's it's hard.

Speaker 4 (01:52:20):
Because he's one of my favorite personalities until the hard
R era. But like you know, it's just damn.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
The hard R era. That's what we're living in, BC
well hard era.

Speaker 4 (01:52:33):
Our next subcategory is a shout out to all things
father daughter bonding, you and the late Kobe Bryant hashtag
girl dads And Luke, do you ever go golfing with Chuky?

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
I've taken it to the driving range. Definitely that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:46):
This dad has done the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
What's up guys today, I'm going to be golfing with
my daughter. How high were you when you.

Speaker 4 (01:52:59):
Would recommend that?

Speaker 6 (01:53:00):
But uh?

Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
And Luke, unfortunately your tickets for the Father Daughter Shakira
concert fell through. But this could have been you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
I don't anybody know what I'm looking at. Oh, okay, okay,
that one's better.

Speaker 4 (01:53:21):
And Luke, this last clip is definitely not the way
we want Father bonding to go for anybody. If you
found out your daughter was an OnlyFans model, what would
you do.

Speaker 5 (01:53:29):
Well, I would probably have to unsubscribe.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
No sound, but that's a good joke. That's Oh I
heard the song.

Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
You didn't hear the sound.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
I didn't hear the sound.

Speaker 5 (01:53:38):
It was only in the left speaker.

Speaker 4 (01:53:40):
A well, is he is Luke gonna have a problem
moving forward?

Speaker 6 (01:53:47):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:53:47):
I think it was just that clip.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
Okay, all right, so I can switch.

Speaker 4 (01:53:49):
But Lucas time for your local news interruptions of the week.
Here's Molly McBride.

Speaker 14 (01:54:07):
We'll check back in with Molly and just An honest.

Speaker 13 (01:54:10):
So she's having some interactions there, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:54:14):
Did she have a dollar?

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
And I didn't care? If you've not been to Vegas,
the how would you describe to BC the vagrants who
wafted through Strip Mall parking lots in Vegas are a
unique kind of breed that you typically don't see in
a lot of other American cities. True or false?

Speaker 4 (01:54:37):
Well, I see them in Newark. But yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
Yes, it's and it's just people coming and going. I
mean that guy might have been down on his luck
a little bit there, obviously, But it's just like I'm
telling you, walking through a parking lot and Vegas Strip
mall is you're gonna see some wild ship. Let's put
it that way. You will.

Speaker 4 (01:54:56):
Here's our second news blooper of the week. Listen to
this lady closely.

Speaker 18 (01:55:00):
Oh the police wouldn't let me go to through one
hundred and twenty seconds, so I had to go around
one hundred and nineteenth and go and I was They
let me look at the lawyer's building. I know the
vacuum cleaner man. He's seen my tits. I know that's
not going on TV.

Speaker 13 (01:55:20):
But it's true.

Speaker 5 (01:55:20):
It's true.

Speaker 18 (01:55:21):
I'm not here to lie to you.

Speaker 4 (01:55:24):
Look, truth prevails again.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
Okay, poor guy, That poor guy, well he came to.

Speaker 4 (01:55:30):
Sell her a vacuum and he got a folly out
of that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
Okay, so you know what actually credit to him. He
was like here, I'm here to vacuum. She's like, no,
you're not. Take a look at the well.

Speaker 4 (01:55:39):
Look, we honor he's like.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
The landlord in uh in Kingdom.

Speaker 4 (01:55:45):
We honored the great Long Island Luke with his contributions
to getting our merch off the ground. And here's a
young kid standing up for Long Island Luke's pronunciation of
the word coffee.

Speaker 13 (01:55:55):
Yo, guys.

Speaker 10 (01:55:57):
I was at Starbucks and the guy ash me, do
you want a cup of coffee? I said, Yo, guy,
it's a cup of coffee. And I'm twelve years old
and I don't drink coffee. But if I did drink coffee,
I would drink expressio with no sugar, like a real
man and with the shade, no problems.

Speaker 4 (01:56:18):
How you doing Long Island? Look, you must feel attacked
by this.

Speaker 5 (01:56:23):
I mean, he's on point. It is a cup of coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
Two hint, that's who that is.

Speaker 4 (01:56:28):
And this is normally what a Long Island and Luke
is like on a podcast. If you haven't watched the
main card minute.

Speaker 5 (01:56:34):
The beck seat, I mean long out.

Speaker 4 (01:56:48):
Look what happened on the podcast when the main event
was canceled? Was it just all right?

Speaker 5 (01:56:52):
Let's just know we just sat and talked about it
for like another thirty minutes or so with everyone in
the chat because we were all just like fuck. It
kind of felt. Some described it as being blue bowled.
It was kind of an accurate description because you're like
waiting for the main event and then they're like, oh no,
actually the card's over and you're like.

Speaker 4 (01:57:07):
Risky take by you considering it was a female main event.
But that's just fine.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
I just went to bed.

Speaker 4 (01:57:12):
All right. Here's Bud Crawford playing our boys.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
Ac In Barack, who's the hardest puncher you ever faced?
Should be these nuts?

Speaker 4 (01:57:27):
Yeah, Luke, I pop for that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
Come on, he sold it well. I'll say that he
sold it well.

Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
Luke signed signs everywhere. There's signs wherever this is.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
We need to show up, right, God damn, what the
fuck's going on over there?

Speaker 4 (01:57:45):
I don't know, but I'm kind of interested.

Speaker 16 (01:57:47):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:57:47):
Also, Luke, while you're at it, please don't jerk and drive.
Let's go to the next one. Okay, what are we
doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
You know what? I needed to hear that before I
got behind the wheel of the car today because I
was definitely thinking of, you know, going to Low's or
something and then just having a having.

Speaker 4 (01:58:04):
Disgusting. It's time for your biggest l's of the week.
Let's hit the runway at the fashion show. Luke, what
do you think is gonna happen here?

Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
I have a feeling this is gonna end terribly. Yep,
here we go, there we go?

Speaker 4 (01:58:16):
Okay, all right, maybe we should get some railings on
there here. Let's also go to the funeral r I p.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
Mean we about to see some heinous ship I hope not, Luke.

Speaker 4 (01:58:29):
I mean I don't always screen all these, but uh,
you know they're honoring one who's who's uh, who's past
one who has fallen?

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
If you will right, Oh my fucking god, Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:58:42):
Okay, okay, just what don't you? I want you to
know that North Korea did approve that for the Today Show.

Speaker 5 (01:58:49):
Just so you know.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
But uh, how did the North Korean censors let that
one through?

Speaker 4 (01:58:53):
I actually had to get a full approval. But not
the first dead body we've shown on this show.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
Let me ask a question. Have you ever carried a caskep.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
Of I have?

Speaker 4 (01:59:01):
Yes. My great great aunt who was one hundred and three,
I carried her candy.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
Wow, I had to carry a caskie when I was
a teenager. I had a friend who was a teen
who died. It's not the most fun experience. Don't recommend that.

Speaker 4 (01:59:11):
I mean, especially when the bottom drops out, Luke, But
you know that's awful. Hey, did you ever do you
did a lot of nerd stuff? Did you do college
team trivia? Wi William and Mary.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
I did not do that in William Mary.

Speaker 5 (01:59:21):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:59:21):
All right, well here's these kids doing it whose last
words were let's do it.

Speaker 6 (01:59:33):
Sandy the passengers of flight ninety three.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
Incorrect, that was right, So that answer was let's roll,
not let's do it. Who was the answer? Do we know?

Speaker 4 (01:59:47):
I don't know, but that was, you know, maybe an
unnecessary callback to a tragedy. Indeed, right there. Also, Luke,
you ever had your graduation, just want to grab your
diploma and be like fu for the last four years
this kid did.

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
Everyone is dumb?

Speaker 4 (02:00:08):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:00:09):
No, I mean I didn't have general hostility at the
institution that was granted me a certification of completion of
their programs. But I'm also, you know, not a fucking
idiot like this guy.

Speaker 4 (02:00:17):
So well, you know, Luke, people have asked often, who's
your favorite character in this segment? What do you think
the answer would be? Cake Lady? Obviously let's check in
with her.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
Oh god, where is a drive by shooter? When you one,
you're gonna eat the fucking Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (02:00:39):
Oh boy, Luke, the friend you.

Speaker 2 (02:00:42):
Just know her dumps are next level insane?

Speaker 4 (02:00:46):
Can she's She lives in France, I don't know if
her English is good. If I can get her on
this program, will you be okay with that?

Speaker 2 (02:00:52):
She's gonna start eating her hands and ship it's.

Speaker 4 (02:00:54):
Gonna I'm into that, Okay, I'm definitely into that. Speaking
of would you eat, Luke, this is the big get
you can get at the Major League Baseball stadium. It's
called the Slugger Dog. It's forty dollars and it's a
sixteen inch glizzy.

Speaker 2 (02:01:08):
Wow, my man, my man went to work on the
sheboying boying, didn't he?

Speaker 4 (02:01:12):
I was gonna say, should you get after the hog
that aggresses? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:01:15):
Why don't you put more mail on it? You fucking
absolute creeting.

Speaker 4 (02:01:22):
All right, that's great stuff here, Luke Katz. As we
know from Reggie and Zoe already appearing on today's episode,
they're the coolest animals ever. All right, you know that?
Watch this? Oh yeah, wake up, wake and bake. Right,
that's great differ right there.

Speaker 2 (02:01:41):
All right? Oh yeah, Mittens wants to get to work
on that.

Speaker 4 (02:01:45):
Here's Mitten's brother also interested.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
All right, Luke, Yeah, yeah, I get him a bit.

Speaker 4 (02:01:54):
All right, there you go, Luke. There's an announcement here
for all, potential homeowner.

Speaker 16 (02:02:00):
You're not gonna believe this.

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
See this right here?

Speaker 16 (02:02:02):
See this hole could be a mouse, a rat, a mole.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 16 (02:02:05):
I had gerbils and hamsters when I was a kid,
so I've got kind of a love for these animals.
The inside of this tube is scented with a pheromone
that will attract whatever kind of roadent this is to
go right in the two and run out the other side. Now,
all we gotta do is wait for these babies to
get to their new home.

Speaker 4 (02:02:26):
That gup was brought to you by Richard Gear Luke obviously, Okay,
all right, such.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
An old man reference that Richard gear snuck Gerbils in
his ass.

Speaker 4 (02:02:37):
Oh Luke, you big Back to the Future fan like
Jay Aaron.

Speaker 2 (02:02:40):
I do like Back to the Future. Yeah, all right,
some people have.

Speaker 4 (02:02:43):
Issues with the plot hole consistencies, right, you know what?

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
He did? Miss that detail?

Speaker 4 (02:02:55):
Anyways, Luke, them streets are pretty crazy, yo. Watch out.
Let's go to some road rage here. There's the cage.
Is that pronounced cahoon cajun pass?

Speaker 2 (02:03:04):
I'm guessing cahoon, but I don't know. Hell yeah, dude,
hell yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:03:10):
Or I have seen this before a few times, Luke
in Connecticut, this is oh.

Speaker 2 (02:03:14):
Man just slugging it out. That's awesome, dude. There was
a video that the local news did of this year's
valedictorian from Harvard. It's a it's a it's an Asian girl.
So they're talking to her and in the background of
wherever they were in Cambridge, two American guys start fighting,
and it's like, this seems like a metaphor for our
life right now.

Speaker 4 (02:03:32):
Indeed. Indeed, also, Luke, you big into drive throughs.

Speaker 2 (02:03:37):
I live in a city, so driveters aren't that common here,
but uh, you know when in Rome.

Speaker 4 (02:03:41):
Sure, well if you don't have one in your city,
just make one, Okay. That's uh, that's why were they

(02:04:09):
banging up the dollar tree that way? Hit? What the
fuck was that I could buy the whole store with
what's in my wallet? Look, I don't know. That's pretty wild.
Here here's your subway fight of the week, though, the off.

Speaker 2 (02:04:36):
Whatever dude, he had to sit on that train ride
after just getting bitched and everyone looking at him. Whatever, funk.

Speaker 4 (02:04:49):
Look, it's time for your worst T shirts of the week.
Let's check out this couple first. That man loves finger painting.

Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
These two look like classic individuals.

Speaker 4 (02:05:00):
Okay, all right, well look it's good to have a
wingman like this. Next guy right when you go out.

Speaker 2 (02:05:07):
Hey, listen, someone's gotta jump on that grenade. He's making
it explicit.

Speaker 4 (02:05:11):
Luke, we got one more for you. Have you heard
the latest new woke world mandate that barbers need to
ask permission first? You hear about this all right before
we start today?

Speaker 3 (02:05:21):
Is it okay if I test you?

Speaker 2 (02:05:23):
Okay, I'm getting a haircut tomorrow. I'm gonna I'm gonna
decline that part of the service. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:05:30):
Okay, that's the ship of the week. I hope you
enjoyed that, all right, see see see you're gonna give
a seat of that. Come on, well all right see
see then all right, that's all the show we can
provide for you today, though, thank you for playing one
more time. If you like this new, brand new shirt
right here, you like the one on Luke's chest, why
don't you head over to Morning Combat Dot Shop Right freakin' now,

(02:05:55):
Merch three point zero is back. It's a new era.
It's a new season in our life, Long Island, Luke,
Luke Thomas and myself Average Joe Art helping out. We
have been so pleased to be able to get this
off the ground, so thank you for supporting the show
and new designs coming every single month, Limited edition and

(02:06:16):
don't forget. You can also order the signed Beavis and
butt Head Morning Combat posters right now, signed by Luke
Thomas and Brian Campbell. Get fired Up, Let's go. That's
all I got? You know what I mean? Anything else
from Long Island? Luke? You got anything else to say?

Speaker 5 (02:06:36):
You HAVEC three sixteen bet Breakdown coming out today, tune
in for that. I'll be doing the full card watch
along Saturday.

Speaker 4 (02:06:41):
You are the Drill Wednesday, brought to you by Quervo.
It is pregame preview YOUFC three sixteen. So no show
this Friday, but check us out Wednesday, eleven am Eastern.
A bron will join us, Luke Thomas. They can follow
us at the handles below. They can check out our
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over at sub Stack. Anything people should be looking for

(02:07:03):
this week.

Speaker 2 (02:07:04):
I'm going to be doing Let's See a Fight Day
episode where we watch old fights together and watch breakdown tape,
So that'll be later on substack, but I'll have a
bunch of stuff on YouTube as well, YouTube dot com
slash Luke Thomas great stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:07:16):
We'll see you guys on Wednesday and have a great week.
All right, Let's go, Let's get fired up, good weather outside,
raise your spirits, enjoy life, get after it for BC,
n LT and l L. Apparently I'm also BC. Have
a great time.

Speaker 15 (02:07:30):
But we out All the Smoke Fighters headed to the
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 17 (02:07:34):
That's right.

Speaker 15 (02:07:35):
This year's International Boxing Hall of Fame Induction weekend in
boxing's hometown Hannah Stoda, New York. It takes place on Thursday,
June fifth through Sunday June eighth, ending with an annual
ceremony immortalizing boxing's all time greats.

Speaker 3 (02:07:49):
The International Boxing Hall of Fame a hosting fan events
and experiences all weekend long. On Friday night, June sixth,
Salida Promotion will present a Terrific Fight car in association
with All the Smoke Fight Live on the Zone from
the Turningstone Resort Casino and Ramona, New York, featuring USBA
Heavyweight Champion Brandon Moore defending his title against undefeated prospect

(02:08:11):
Stanley Right in the main event. Plus a stack undercard
featuring world champion Franchion Foods Dessern and rising prospects JJ
Pagan and Develle Smith.

Speaker 15 (02:08:20):
Sounds to me, we're gonna have a great fight night
and of course Sunday the ceremony to a productor class
of twenty twenty five legends like Many Pacman, pak Yao, Michael,
Second to None and Pasmanian Devil Vinnie Paz.

Speaker 3 (02:08:33):
Joined All the Smoke Fight and Seleted Promotion at Turning
Stone Resort Casino for this year's International Boxing Hall of
Fame Induction weekend.

Speaker 4 (02:08:41):
Hey listen.

Speaker 15 (02:08:41):
Visit Turningstone dot com for accommodations and tickets to Fridays
fight Night. Visit ibhof dot com for the full Induction
weekend schedule

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