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October 6, 2025 • 127 mins

Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas and the Morning Kombat crew are back in the studio and ready to discuss all the latest in the world of combat sports.

Alex Pereira delivered violent revenge to Magomed Ankalaev in Round 1 in the main event at UFC 320. The fellas break down the fight and discuss what's next for Pereira, including a potential move up to heavyweight to challenge Jon Jones?

Merab Dvalishvili extended his win streak to 14 as he continues to dominate the bantamweight division. Is he in the bantamweight GOAT conversation?

Also, BC and LT go through the undercard, including Jiri Prochazka's insane rally to KO Khalil Rountree Jr. in Round 3.

Happy MK Monday, Donks!

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Using will.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
It's time to band? Oh yeah, Monday Morning, Get fired up.
Hey it's October sixth, twenty twenty five. This is Morning
Combat Live in direct from Metal Larks Studios in Manhattan. Trauma,
no chrama, Yeah, Jama, that's what we got today. UFC
three twenty recap in full. We're gonna look at PFL

(00:54):
big time rematch between the Maga made Off and Hughes.
A little bit of controversy on that scoring right there.
Hit your d em, look at my shit, all the
regular stuff. Brian Campbell live and direct here in NYC
from the Connecticut suburbs. That's Luke Thomas, who's fresh off
an Amtrak trained with a large bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
I should have just flung my feces all over now.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Silence of the lamp style. Dude. I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
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a month old and it had to stop twice for
mechanical failure. When I say mechanical failure, I don't know
what that means. All I'm telling you is HI, everybody,
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our balls.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
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fucking a c. Yeah, they should go back to like
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Speaker 3 (01:38):
If it's on time. I'd almost prefer it at this point.

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that your goal? No?

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Quite the opposite I have you should.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Just lift shirtless out there for Halloween.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Just thinking about that, but now it's too cold. Via
letta God became friends with some other kid at gymnastics.
Oh yeah, and now her and her parents are going
to come to our house.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Are they lame or are they like workable?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
They seem pretty cool. Okay, it seem pretty cool for sure.
I definitely like them. But you know, it's just gonna
be a lot, just gonna be a lot. So I
have to go as you don't k pop Demon Hunters. No, no, guy,
your kids are here. You have boys and they're too old.
But it's the biggest thing in the world right now,
Demon Hunters.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
We're still stuck in Italian brain rot. I don't know
what that is, but that's what we're in.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I saw what's his face? The fat kid do that?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, we're in the six to seven mode right now.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
No, anyway, so I have to go as Genu.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
You're talking about the whistlers.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, uh, I have to go as Genu from cap
What are his superpowers? He's a demon? He shoulds violently
and then he sings songs. All right, you're ma sooed up? Pop,
I have to do that all right.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Uh, let's introduce you to the third member of our team,
live in direct from his own main card minute. He's single.
He had a good rung in that relationship, though it's long.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Sorry, I'm taking the under on that one lasting.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
You know what I'm saying, dude, you got to take
the over. I mean we're going on seven years.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Here, exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Wow, it might be time seven years in, it might
be time to seven years no ring. Wow, it sounds
like Charles Barkley's career.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
All right, this is awkward.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Waits hey, now back to talking about your dad's balls.
How are your Long Island look? You're good here, I'm good.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
I had a good betting weekend, enjoyed the fights.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
What'd you hit? What did you miss?

Speaker 5 (04:12):
I hit poton money Line.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
I had a parlay of Morob and the over one
and a half in Yuri Khalil, and then I lost
on the first two fights, but I did get on
the prelims too.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeerie gave us a moment. In fact, why not just
skip ahead to that right now? Can we show you
the footage of the oh face that L teammate during
his live stream of Hotsk's comeback. Ko, let's watch it now?

Speaker 6 (04:37):
Oh what what.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Fuck?

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Are you shitting me?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
What?

Speaker 7 (04:52):
What?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Wow? Are you shitting me? What a feel good moment.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I want to flail more. But I have so much
shit on my because I figured it out though it's
not okay. So I finally got into the bottom of this.
It is not my computers.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh you're you're.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
It's the Verizon router. So I dumped comcasts hoisted by
my own petard. Yes, and now Verizon is causing havoc
on my life. So that's actually the issue. So I
have to have a laptop and then different stuff for
that to work with my other stuff on there are you.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
To like foil and bubblegum?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Just mcgiver level, I'm already there, already there.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
That was borderline paweweh like the emotion though, that was
fun great moment in history, I gotta tell you he was.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
It was not looking too great for him.

Speaker 8 (05:37):
No.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Heading into the third well, you know, what, that's not
quite true.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
He was winning.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I thought the last minute of the second round wasn't
beating him up, but I thought he was winning the
last minute. And then the third round came and he
was like, well, we just I just got a Homer Simpson.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
This ship. That's what it is right there. That's what
we've also shout out to Jed Meshu for joining us
on Friday for UFC three twenty pre game preview.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
It was a spirited episode, I would say, people seem
to like it, right yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
And he looks like a tiny man though when he's
sitting there in this camera with that you know, Dale
senior mustache going on. All right, that's our guy right there,
Jethrow Meshu, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
All Right, anymore up bullshit to talk about her com
Hey how about Mark Sanchez?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Dude, what a twist? What a wild turn of events?

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Is that not insane? I was like, oh, holy shit,
he got stabbed up at Indianapolis. This is terrible. And
then all the accounts were like, you know, former Jets
and other Fox Sports commentation King of the butt Fumble,
We're all like, you know, our prayers up for Mark
Sanchez that's like, well, guys, he's been arrested at the
hospital because he stabbed a door dash driver.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
No, it was a truck driver. A little job is
to pick up the excess grease at like restaurants and hotels,
you know, like when you cook and you got the
access grease. His job is to pick that up. And
and he Sanchez tried to get in his truck and
tried to like a costume, and then he got shoved
into a wall.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Sixty nights.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
We stabbed him. They came out with the knife.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Wow, stabbed my bitch up. But I'm feeling very musical today.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, you got this Sanchez thing. You're really excited. This
is great. Yeah right, it's good. Stapped. Imagine throwing your
life away like that. No, no, you think he'll lose
his Fox gig.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
And I just don't understand. I've been drunk as fucks
so many times and I've never done something like that, Like.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I've never stabbed another dude. It just says, I mean,
I've stabbed him.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
They just died.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I never I got away with it, you know what,
the third world.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
But I'm saying, like, how many times have you just
been like you know, insanely drunk, and it never occurred
to you to go fistfight a man who's collecting oil.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I don't. Isn't incredible when you're insanely drunk, the falls
you can take and get right back up. Yeah. I
fell backwards over a railing and landed on my neck
on a staircase and got right up like nothing. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
But then the next day you're like, hey, how come
my leg has been amputated?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
I mean I was sore, but you I should never
walk again after something.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's true? Right, it's true.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Okay, that's the power of canned logger. Thank you very much. Hey,
let's get into the show with topic numero uno. Hey,
UFC three twenty in Las Vegas was a banger, let
me tell you from start to finish, but we are
here to talk about this main event, a changing in
the guard for the second straight fight in the light
heavyweight division, as the UFC three to twenty main event
brought the return of a healthy Alex Pereira, the return

(08:18):
of Chauma, and a revenge an eighty second first round
ko of Magamet and Klaiev to regain the championship, joining
a select grow of group of legends, by the way,
who have won titles into two divisions and also had
separate reigns in one of them. Right there, So at
age thirty eight, of course, rumors of Poeton's demise proved

(08:40):
greatly exaggerated as he bounced back here in the manner
that mkviewer Tony Gutierrez DM mean called very similar to
Roy Jones Junior in the rematch with Montell Griffin when
he got get him out of there angrily in one round.
It had that same feel right there. This is Poton
improving to ten and two in the UFC. He's beaten everybody.
He's what did Saturday's victory do in your eyes to

(09:03):
either improve or cement both his historical revelency, but maybe
even more important that aura of not invincibility, but of
this monster because he came out angry, he rushed across
the cage in the opening bell, and in some weird way,
it felt like all of MMA was chairing his resurgence
back on top after one hiccup fight in which he

(09:26):
clearly wasn't the full Poeton. Yeah, it felt like.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
After Poton lost to Unclave in their first fight that
MMA fans in the industry felt a little, i don't know,
demoralized something.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Like that, like the biggest star's gone. He's not the same,
he's washed, and now we have more boring wrestling heavy
chest or.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Other people who are doing stuff, but the people aren't. Again,
you can debate about who was the twenty twenty four
fight of the year, but people don't are not as
fond about Ilia as they are about Poeton, And so
there was this massive like yes, okay, this is great
feeling that seemed to be everywhere, but BC, that was
one of the most impressive performances in UFC title fight history.

(10:09):
And the reason why I say that is not just
because of the fight himself. First of all, he squashed
him like a bug. I mean he really just grabbed
you know, have you seen that thing that meme where
the guy takes the kid's face and puts it on
the record player and spins it around. It was kind
of the equivalent of that. I mean, this was an
absolute mugging in every way. I mean, you felt like

(10:32):
Poeton must have had some extra weapon that we didn't
know about.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
But yes, bite, By the way, he's been taking dunks
on Ali for the tweets from Michael eyas he's been
going after him.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Well, I can understand the point too. He's like, one
of you has to get in here, and he's not
the one tweet in this shit, y'all are it's a problem.
But okay, But getting back to the situation, here's why
it was so impressive to me on so many levels.
First of all, he now becomes the oldest active champion
on the UFC roster. As you indicated, there are fighters
who have won titles in two weight classes, including the
multiple rains Kator at heavyweight and obviously had the lighthead

(11:03):
weight rate in between. But you know, to pack it
in so densely, look.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
At this graphic real quick show the graphic of the
there's now five two division UFC champions who have also
had two reigns in one of those divisions. Dude, this
is like, yeah, the all timers. You have Amanda Newness,
the greatest female fighter, John Jones, the greatest male fighter,
Randy Cooter GSP and now Polton. Dude. That answers the
question of what does this do historically?

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Like this is you're asking what's the historical relevance of
this He's been able to accomplish at least on paper
similar kinds of achievements, but he did it much, much,
much quicker. I also want to point out something that
I think gets lost a little bit for some of
those of us who have been watching MMA for a
very long time. For a guy with a kickboxing background

(11:48):
to get in a guy's face who ostensibly has the
wrestling and then bully him as a consequence is actually
itself historically unusual. He's the oldest active champion at age
thirty eight. Obviously he got I Want a House, but
he lost convincingly the first time around, so now you
get the revenge aspect over it. How many UFC title

(12:08):
fights ever? Look that short? You got John Jones against
Gone that was one. You know, a Nate Quarry getting
beaten by Rich Franklin that was within one round?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Was the Aldo rematch with Mendes? Was that the first?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
That was the first fight? The rematch was the one
that was actually and I realized, like Aldo and you
know Connor was thirteen seconds. But you can pick out examples,
but these are historically quite rare. Even when one guy
is better, one lady is better than the other, it
usually takes at least a little bit of time to
get that going like you know, but but but but
in cases where it wasn't for example, Noonas versus Rowsey,

(12:44):
Yes that was a drubbing, but Rowsy was still coming
off of the home loss. This was taking the belt
from a champion.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
For a guy to have lost be this old, his
five years senior to his opponent. And when you consider
the depth of UFC title fight history, what you saw
on Saturday is profoundly and historically unusual. That sums up Pooton.
He is just unusual, b see, and you can you

(13:13):
can cut that in so many different ways and why
he's unusual. But people have been saying, you know, what
about how would you compare him to Izzy's career? And
I know that might come up here a little bit later.
And there are some ways in which obviously Poton's career
is much much better. In other ways, you know, who
is a better middleweight? The answer is is he is.
He was a better middleweight. But the point I'm trying
to make is he's redefining the ways in which we

(13:35):
actually measure greatness. For a kickboxer to speed run multiple
title reigns this late against an opponent who just beat
him at age thirty years.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Less than four years. Why you have that less than
four years?

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Everything about it just should not exist, and yet he
makes it possible.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
And he fights all the time, which can be a
blessing or a curse. When it caught up to him
in March in their first meeting where the wear and tear,
because when he won, when he had three title defensive
last year, one hundred and seventy five days, we find
out after he had many things physically ill wise holding
him back. He got through those. He didn't get through
in March. But look what happens when he's not flying
around the globe. Look what happens when he's got spiite

(14:13):
and reason to get in there. Dude. He walked right
across that cage at the opening start through the big
two punch combination, put ank alive on his heels. The
whole point of that first fight was Anklelve was putting
so much pressure on him. He didn't overdo it, but
just enough where Pereira was on the back foot against
the cage the whole time. He made sure that was
not even a factor right here, and he's not fighting
some like flashing the Pan Champions fighting a guy who

(14:35):
was himself top five pound for pound, twenty wins, one
lost one draw coming in and just obliterated him like
it didn't matter. So when I say what does it mean?
Historically we saw that, but what does it mean to
like the aura of the baddest man on the planet
type feel? I feel like all the air is back
in the balloon after this.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well to that end, I wrote this on Twitter on
Sunday yesterday saying, you know, he has done this notice
a bit and it was fun and cool for a while,
and it worked for a while, but you kind of
saw what the limits of that were, and at age
thirty eight, and especially given what you saw here, I
think if you want Poeton to be able to accomplish

(15:13):
the best things that he can, not making it. Of
course he elects to do it, but not having him
out there so consistently is I think important at this point.
Save him for the big things because BC fully prepared,
healthy against a guy with purpose. Look what he can do.
He can do really impressive things. Is he the most

(15:35):
well rounded? He'll never be the most well rounded, But
this guy pulls rabbits out of hats.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Well, you can't expose him for his vulnerabilities, the fact
that he was, what he says the first fight Constant
Clive in March, the worst version of himself yet in
the UFC because of the physical setbacks. He's still stuffed
all twelve takedowns. The fact that you cannot take advantage
of him in his vulnerable place is probably the secret
to his success, right, And maybe that's a credit to
Glover to share and Poeton for putting in the work.

(16:02):
I mean, it's just insane. You would expect he would
come over as a kickboxer and in the right matchups
he can look spectacular, but inevitably someone's gonna sub him out.
Inevitably someone's gonna lay on him for five rounds. That's
not happening, dude. Yeah, and that's remarkable.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
People treat kickboxers, you know, like and you see them
kickboxers and ma especially when this wrestling heavy era, they
tend to have a very defensive of sensibility, Like you know,
look at someone like wonder Boy. Yes, of course he's
got some spectacular KOs, but you know, if someone wants
to wrestle him, it's just this constant defensive situation. Poeton
took that fight by the fucking scruff of the neck

(16:35):
and was like, we're just not We're just not gonna
do that today. This is not gonna happen. I'm gonna
tell you exactly what terms we're gonna fight under. And
he forced that guy into multiple mistakes and then Dude,
his power. Even if it's not one punch, which it
can be at a bare minimum, it is fight altering.
There's one way you're fighting, then he lands something and
now you have to fight a different way. He changes

(16:57):
the way that his opponents come pete, and it's just
the downstream effect of it is very, very difficult for
them to collect.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Let's center a piece of evidence into the all time
great photos. Look at this iconic celebration over a falling
Ankliath doing the whole shama.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Look at look at his eye contact too. He's looking
right at him too.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
And eventually, as we saw a lot of people were
putting the memes, you know, and Clive would sit up
and look at him, and then Poton put out a
meme of a tire around. Take that back to the
tire shop to close the point on the forty percent
the first fight, and look, this is what you get
if you can keep Poton with a full camp, and
they did say on the broadcast, I don't know if
you agree with this. DC was saying Poton's history is

(17:37):
a kickboxer, being in tournaments and stuff. He's just used
to quick turnarounds fighting her. Yes, it's not a problem
for him.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
I think it's also kickboxing is a rematch sport too.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, and it's also part of his understanding that he
came to the UFC at thirty four. He had a
short ish window to make big success. So I'm not
against what he did last year, which is he believed himself.
He went and there, scored big wins, became a star.
But maybe we should have saw it coming of what
happens if you take this guy off the road from
showing up, flying around the world and being an ambassador.
This is Poton in a podcast that was recorded during

(18:07):
fight week that I didn't see this last of the fight.
Check out his response to this question lex at was
a scary prospect. What does Alex a one hundred percent
look like?

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Percent the same percent that you get Jews.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Percent.

Speaker 9 (18:26):
I don't think I've ever been at one hundred percent.
I think if I was at one hundred percent and fighting,
I'd probably kill someone.

Speaker 10 (18:32):
Okay, Like, do you have an argument against that that
sounds about right?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Good record? Let me ask you this. If Poton was
in some ways the face of the UFC after last
year saving them a multiple cars.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I don't know if he's the face of the UFC,
but I can't tell you what he is. He's the party.
He's the life of the fucking party for a.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Guy that doesn't speak English. Now, Anderson Silva eventually got
there where he became so viral that people loved him
before he developed English. It's rare what Poton's doing to
adopt speak English really at all and be able to
become this beloved. But when you look at what look,
there's a I know Poton represents Brazil, he happens to
live in the US, but we know in totality of US,

(19:13):
there's these narratives that maybe the stars aren't there where
they once were, Maybe there's not enough American faces and
names of what they once were. But for Poton to
be as established as he was, then lose as humbly
as he did to Ankliave, but now to get it
back when you look at the next year, for the UFC.
They're kicking off the PARAMIDT deal in January. They've got
to make a White House card in June. That Dana

(19:34):
White has said multiple times, including at the postfight press or,
that it's going to be the biggest card in company history.
How important do you believe it is for the company
that Pooton not only came back rejuvenated his brand, but
did it in one of the most historic and violent
ways possible.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
They had to be toasting champagne flutes backstage after this,
I mean, how much better for you? I mean again,
as a promoter, you have a couple of jobs, right,
You've got to put on the fights that people want
to pay money to see. You have to find and
recruit talent. You have to in certain cases develop talent.
You have to develop contenders. You have to keep divisions moving.
But you know what you also have to do BC.
You got to get a little lucky. Yeah, you have

(20:11):
to have a couple of guys who break out in
ways where when they signed Poeton, I'm sure in their
mind they were like, Okay, here are some good or
even best case scenarios of how this could go. But
they think that for probably all the people that they signed.
They probably thought that for PATCHI mix too, and that
has not gone even close to what they thought. This
guy has delivered again. He had a loss against uncliev

(20:32):
he got viciously KOed against Izzy. So has it been
like the very ultimate, oh my god, best case No,
but it's been pretty goddamn close to best case scenario.
And to have multi this is what it really means
to be lucky as a promoter, to have multiple acts
in each fighter's career. Well, they'll have a surge and

(20:53):
there might be a decline, but then another surge you
get a secondary. That was the problem with McGregor's career.
He had one surge and then it just kind of
petered out slowly after that.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
He wasn't a new surge that comes in White Power.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, Look, look at
the other people you're pointing to.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Do you have that graphic with the multiple champions there?
Can you put it up on the.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Screen for a second. So look, in the case of
John Jones, there was a big break and you know
you can. I don't think much of his heavyweight campaign. Nevertheless,
it was a second chapter after a long break.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
And him regaining his light heavy title was only because
he got stripped three times for exactly reason.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
The tour multiple multiple stages of his career where it
was up, down, up down. Saint Pierre obviously had a
little bit of a down, mostly up with then a
break and then had another one, and an Amanda Nunez
had a slow start and then kind of a big push.
And but the what I'm trying to make is, in general,
what Poeton has fulfilled are these multiple stages of rejuvenation,

(21:50):
of greatness, of grandeur, of spectacle, of joy, and dude,
the fact that he did it kind of angrily and
what he was fucking mean on Saturday, I don't know.
It felt like it broke a spell that was maybe
hanging over the product lite.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Let's be honest. I don't try to think in these
terms a Ton. I understand there's a problem of American fighters,
and Poton's not even technically American. I'm not trying to
connect those two, but I'm saying there's this narrative that
all all the champions now are from Augustan and they
don't speak English, and they're boring personalities and they have
an even more boring fighting style. In reality, I don't
think that of Anklaive. I think he's well rounded and

(22:26):
there's a lot to like in his game. But do
you think the fact that we took the belt off
of a quote unquote boring guy to the masses and
put it back on arguably the most exciting guy like
that doesn't hurt. That's a huge part of right, you know,
like that has to be said out loud. Poton became
a star almost by killing off other people's star rise.
In fact, we have a graphic that from Twitter that

(22:46):
illustrates this. These are the wind streaks that he snapped.
John Strickland had an eighteen fight win streak until Poton
knocked him out Atasania was riding a twenty three fight
win streak, thirteen for Prahatsko, only four there for Hill,
five for Roundtree, fourteen fight unbeaten streak there for Ank Alive.
That's kind of how he did it right. We thought
there was Atosnia's story, as Chuckmannhall famously said here and

(23:09):
this show, it was really Poeton's story, and Poeton's story
will continue.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
I got a dead wrong this graphic. In real time,
Sean Strickland was on like a six fight win streak
before Poeton, he lost to ez Ds.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Before that, it.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Was was one of them in a different weight class.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
He lost to Tomorrow. Maybe those were at seventy and
then he moved.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Look, I didn't you know, it's not like I researched
that tweet at all.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
It sounded way too long.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
I'm like, sure, Nevertheless, nevertheless, you know, he's not beating
guys who are like he's coming off of two stoppage
losses in a row. You know, he's fighting really good
fighters who are on you know, good parts of their campaigns.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
All right, let's talk about the loss quickly. For Anklive,
We've we've given him first first team All Donk status before,
we've called him donk Alive, whether he deserves that or not.
Did any of that play into his eighty second eighty
second dismantle or was it just simply Poeton was going
to walk through whoever was across from him.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, I gotta say, I mean, I would love to
I would love to dunk on Donkelive, but I don't
know if that is really appropriate in this case. So
a couple of things happen, Right, let's talk about it.
In the first fight, you got those it was open stance,
so it's like this, right, rather than being like this,
it's like this, And so he would use the lead
leg to the lead leg of the outside for leg kicks,

(24:27):
and those can be damaging certainly, but on balance, it's
the ones from the back leg whipping all the way around.
Just naturally. What's going to be stronger your powerhand or
your jab. There can be differences sometimes, but typically it's
going to be the backhand. So it's kind of like
that in this fight. Which you'll notice is he whips
three of those into oncle Iive and then he switches stance.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Well, when he switched dance. He can switch dance.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
It's not like Uncle Ive hasn't done that before, but
he does that BC when he is pressuring through transition
to get you to back up, or when he's setting
up a takedown on the defensive side, and I mean
like right up against the goddamn fence. That's not something
he's used to. I don't know if you notice this.
I did a breakdown I put it up on YouTube yesterday.
He's under such pressure from Pooton that he's trying to

(25:12):
get away laterally and he crosses his feet and when
he has to take a second to uncross them to throw.
But at that point, again, if your feet are crossed,
you have to uncross them before you can get back
to your balanced stance. And by the time he does that,
that's what. Did you notice that the punch that Poton
lands is like way ahead of that hook that he
was trying to throw is because he couldn't get his

(25:32):
feet set in time. And Pooton did Pooton time, did
it perfectly on that So he just forced that guy
into like did onun CALEI have make some bad mistakes, yes,
but under the kind of insane pressure that I don't
think he was. I don't think he ever expected Pooton dude,
you know what parison Verdum used to start fights running

(25:53):
across the octagon and then just you know, jumping sidekit. Yeah,
like he did to Travis Brown and some other guys.
This was like that energy but channeled into a focused demolition.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Also, they're a boomerang once at Colby Covington's so shout
out to v cavaljo.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
By caval Yeah, I think so. And it's yeah, Portuguese
is a foreign language.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Our second topic is going to be uh, Pereira's tease
of a possible move to heavyweight, But we don't know
if that's one hundred percent. So if I can ask
you if we're operating under a temporary let's let's say
he stays at one seventy or two o five. Excuse me,
what does this mean for both Carlos Olberg writing a
nine fight win streak coming off the stoppage of Dominic
reyis he was caged sied on Saturday and Yeri Prohatsko,

(26:33):
who will get into his incredible third round rally against
Kalil Raunchy. But that was a top five matchupes which
one would deserve it more? In your eyes, if Poeton
either was told to or chose to make one more
defense out light.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Of you, it's Alburg. It's Alburg. I mean, the reality
is this, That was an incredible as you saw my reaction,
that was an incredible comeback by year. I don't think
anyone would say anything even remotely approaching the opposite. But
the reality is, while that's two wins in a row,
that's not the nine wins in a row that Olberg has.

(27:05):
And more to the point, b see, the problem that
we really have is that for example, we'll talk about
this later. Would I be interested in a third five
between Usman Nimbergamdev and Paul Hughes. Yes, because the first
two were very close and the scoring is very controversial.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Same thing for Vulcan Holloway in the sense same Well,
meanwhile you got a third one year.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yes, but in this particular case, he got stopped in
the first one and then he got stopped even easier
in the second one. And let's be real, while.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
That win what by YERI was real nice.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
I didn't exactly see some of the skill development things
I'd wanted to do, some of that I'd actually was
a little bit of it. But you get my point, like,
what did you see that makes you think it's going
to go different than the second one, especially given the
way that Poeton looked like fucking RoboCop chasing down you know,
bandits in the City of Detroit.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I mean, it could be all action fun, but we've
seen it twice. Although Dana didn't shoot down on the
idea of that for the White House, we'll get more
into that for Pereira's future. I agree with you. I
think that, I mean, did you see when YERI when
Uncle Ive was in the prep point before the main event,
and Yuri was in the front row, and he sort
of stood up and was just glaring at him. It
had to hurt Yeeri to some degree that, even though
we saw the memes of him literally crying in support

(28:18):
of Poeton for being able to come back and win
the title in an emotional manner, that was almost akin
to ad Asanya doing it to Poeton a couple years
earlier in Middlewait. But you have to almost feel for
YEARI because I fank Alive had won that. Then suddenly
you're like, I could even see him cutting the line
ahead of ahead of Carlos Olberg by.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
The way, just real quickly long island, Luke, what do
you think of this comparison. I don't know if this
is too of an old man reference. But in the
first fight between Shogun and Machidah very controversial. It was
a leg kicking fest, yes, and they didn't count it.
Then they have a rematch and he fucking squashes Bachida
like a bug. Very good COMPARI does it.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Seem like it's a little bit of that happening here.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
It's a pretty spot on all right.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
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(29:41):
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Speaker 3 (29:44):
We had no UFC pay per views in September. We
got two of them jokers. This month we're going.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
To get UFC three twenty one pregame preview. And what
a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's the last week of or the last Saturday.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
To October twenty fifth. Yeah, so we who's going to
be in this chair, that's the question. Who's going to
be sampling?

Speaker 3 (30:02):
My hope is Angela White? But they the North Korean
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Speaker 3 (30:16):
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time because she's from DC, and it was like, there's
like a big sports we could I forget exactly what
it was happening, and her people were adamant, adamant. They're like,
under no circumstance are you allowed to ask about you know, yeah,
adult material.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I'm I'm sure Cuervo had that same reaction to you
bring it up just now too, But that's fine, all right,
we'll keep it Cuervo. Yeah, absolutely. Let's go to topic number two.
And that good job on the crickets.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I like that. That's nice.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Wow, nice nice introduction on there. Topic number two, what's
next for Alex Perreira. He did seem to tease a
big time move to heavyweight. We don't know if it'll
be temporary one time or full time. Of course, in
the post fight interview with Joe Rogan at after defeating
malgam Medenkliev, you did see Poetons say I had a
prepared statement and instead of reading it, he chose instead

(31:06):
to do a moment of silence for the death of
John Jones's brother and a former NFL player, Arthur Jones,
which was a classy move right there. But we would
see him go on to talk about hopes of not
only moving up to heavyweight, but potentially fighting John Jones
at the White House in June. So Luke, given his
age of thirty eight, given everything he's accomplished in just
four years as a UFC fighter, and the reputation that

(31:29):
he's built within the company, which matters because he's doing
what Dana loves. A guy that will turn around on
short notice, will fight anybody at any time. Few would
argue Pereira deserves the opportunity to be the first to
move up to heavyweight and maybe become the first three
division champion in UFC history. But from a promotional standpoint,
provided Pereira's injured fort which we'll get into a second,

(31:49):
doesn't keep him out. What do you think would be
the best way to accommodate Pereira's heavyweight hopes in twenty
twenty six. Is it a one off against a contender
or Derek Lewis someone like that? Is it John Joe
Owns in a super fight? Is it lining him up
to face Tom Asperall or the winner of the serial
gun matchup? How would you, if you were the UFC,
given that he's healthy, address his wishes because you have

(32:12):
more leverage and money in the bank with the company
than Poton right now?

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Well, I think that the prevailing view that I see
online it's not my view, but I definitely recognize that
it's there, is that people want Poton to fight John
Jones now on this White House card, And I think
for a couple of reasons. One again, Poton just went
there and it wasn't like he had I guess he
defended one takedown, that half ass takedown after Uncle I

(32:38):
have got rocked. It's not really a great examination of
how he would do it with the wrestling. But the
point is is that you know Poton would argue, I
don't need to worry about that because look what I did.
I beat him with these other things. There's a lot
of star power there between Poton and John Jones. There
is obviously, well you even heard Potons say he was

(33:00):
going to call him out and then didn't want to,
obviously because there was this tragic and sudden passing of
his brother. So there was this moment of silence there,
which I thought was, by the way, a very classy
gesture on the part of poets On. But I'm just
holder pointing out you need an American on that White
House card. John has been angling for it. You know,
it's not my personal preference for what I would see.

(33:20):
I'm going to answer it just based on what I
want to see, you know, understanding that I think that
the majority of fans probably want to see those two
together on that card. I want to see Poton get
the winner of the next pay.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Per view as.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Either way, either way you're going to get something worthwhile there.
Now to that point, in either case, that's probably not
a fight that is as well suited for that White
House card as the John Jones factor because of who
John is. He's an American. I see the most decorated
champs in the UFC history. Blah blah blah, get you
get the point there. But for me, if Gon wins,

(33:59):
which I don't think he will, but you know, a
striking contest between those two would be very fun. Or
in the case of Aspinall, I don't know. I don't
know exactly what Aspinall's got to offer. I would favor
Aspinall to win. But Aspinall needs a boost. Yeah, he
needs somebody to help raise his profile.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
A boost Megamental he needs, he needs, he doesn't need.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
He My man's got one round and then you know
what I'm saying, he's good for a round.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
He's great for a round.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
So for me, the answer is the winner of UFC
three twenty one's main event. But I recognize that Long Island. Luke,
I'm guessing you probably prefer the Jones factor of the
White House.

Speaker 11 (34:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
No, I'm actually with you.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
But I'll actually say with this caveat, if Aspinall wins,
I want to see Pereira Aspinall. If Gone wins, then
I would go John Jones Pereira. Oh really yeah, just
because that's the bigger like star value fight.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Can we have it all and have Jones Aspinall and
then Pereira also on the card around a different card
making his heavyweight debut, or do you want?

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Okay, who would it be?

Speaker 1 (34:59):
I don't know. I mean, it's what you It depends
on Peyer's injury. Depends on a few things. Because if
he's if he can come back pretty soon. It's like,
do you put him in a main event and you
want to your early paramount number, pay per viewer p
at least whatever you want to call it. Yeah, well
let's let's get right to that. Can you just do
the foot video first?

Speaker 4 (35:16):
I know you have a boot on your foot here.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
When you think about the timeline of getting back in there,
You've always been very active throughout your UFC career.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
When do you want to get back in there?

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (35:25):
Yeah, we have to see how this heels up. I'm
pretty sure it's broken. You know, I was kicking his
legs and when he switched dances. As soon as I
kick his league leg, you know, I felt my foot.
So we'll have to see, all right.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Did that tell you that the White House return in June,
which is now being targeted for Sunday, June fourteenth, which
is the President's birthday.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Just very American history focused. I can see that.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I can't wait to see you holding up a one
dollar coin with that men's based on it. We'll get
more on the LGBTQ spin off political channel. Look if okay,
I'm not a doctor here, If he has a broken foot,
then June probably would be a more.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Realistic Yeah, my understanding is my understanding, which of course
is quite limited, probably makes January aggressive as a timeline.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
And I maybe you are hearing Ilia Gaiche as a
rumor of that could be the first paramount, which.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Is something of a swash match. But fine, it would
you never know, you never I agree with you, but
you do never know. Fair enough, fair enough, but okay,
but it makes the June timeline for Poeton certainly doable. Sure,
so I think, okay, so if you're doing it, also,
just just to add the outher piece here, if you're
gonna do whatever you do, whether it's aspinall Gone Jones,

(36:37):
whoever give me Yeeri and Carlos Alberg interim title.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Interim title, so interim title just in case he stays
at everyway, meaning just in case Perrera moves.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
If he goes up there, and even if it's fluky, right,
even if you like, dude, what is who am I am?

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Who?

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Am I what impression is this? Tom Aspinall? Yeah, yeah,
what if he gets just You could even say, what
if he just GETSU and he just fucking chins them
one time, they're gonna run it back. They're gonna run
it back.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
But then again, if you can get poton John at
any point, do you just cash it and do it?

Speaker 3 (37:09):
There's a lot he chins aspen All. Again, I don't
think this is the likeliest outcome, But then to your point,
you do that, and they're gonna set up the John thing.
Like if he goes up to heavyweight and has any
measure of success. I'm not saying he never goes back
to two a five, but it seems a lot less
like he talked.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
To this past fight week about how tough it is
now to make two a five. So I think that
has to be part of the decision.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Let's first hear from Dana White, who wasn't like all
In on the idea of Pereira at heavyweight, which was interesting,
but he also talked about the joy of promoting someone
like Poeton.

Speaker 11 (37:39):
So today I was at work and had a bunch
of meetings over there this afternoon, and I went over
to the PI and he was over in the PI
and I'm like, well, the last guy I expected to
see here today. What are you doing here? And uh,
they're telling me we want to fight at heavyweight. I said, uh,
how about we win tonight and focus on tonight and
then we could talk about, you know, heavy weight And

(38:01):
I don't know, I don't know that you know, there's
there's still fights here in this division, but we'll see.
I mean, this guy has been an absolute stud for us.
He's on vacation in Australia, flies over and fights because
you know, somebody fell out. He fights when he's hurt.
He doesn't care. He wants to fight everybody. He wants
to move up to heavyweight. You know, he's a he's

(38:25):
a uh, he's a dream to have in this organization.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
And now we have Alex Pereira after the fight doing
that new sort of UFC post pay per view press
or podcast thing that they do. Here's Chris Widman talking
to Poeton about his dream super fight that he wants.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
So there's a lot of options now for his next fight.
He got Carlos Oldberg, you got Yurbrahashka. They both really
want the shot. You also have heavyweight. He's talked about
going up to heavyweight. I know he doesn't make his
the fights. You know, it's what the UFC wants to do.
But if it was up to him, what does he
think is the most exciting and most probable matchup next?

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Well, I was sick of decision of.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Heavy everyway, not even a moment's hesitation. Wow.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Well we got asp and Cyril booked already, I think
in this month.

Speaker 12 (39:18):
This month.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, so I guess the winner of that that would
be the best bat formed.

Speaker 9 (39:27):
Now I want to super fight super.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Fight a heavyweight.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
I can think of one.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Who else is there?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
It's jos John.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
At the White House that.

Speaker 12 (39:47):
Super all right?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
So he's interesting.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
What's kind of funny before is you know two things
I've said it before. What makes poton special BC? He's
a big game hunter. He's only out for the game
on the on the safari, that's the first thing i'd say.
And this that's part of his DNA. What's interesting about
the Jones thing is before it was Jones kind of
angling for it when he had the belt and which

(40:12):
caused all the friction. It's like, you know, you got
to fight the guy who has been waiting on it,
which there's an interim champ at that time. A that's
now gone. B now you've got poets on lobbying for.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
It, and who has more money in the bank. To
go back to that point, you heard Dana saying it's like.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
He built up some capital and now he wants to
spend it.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Now.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
There obviously is a big question here about where this
all leaves Jones, And again I don't Obviously his family
has experienced a profound tragedy, so I don't even I
don't even know what to say about that, especially at
the present circumstances. I suppose we'll hear from him in
time when he feels ready, But to me, it's not
the fight that I particularly want to see. However, what

(40:54):
I recognize is different now is that the belt thing
is gone. It's irrelevant, and Poloton wants it after and
an historically unusual performance that changes the stakes of it,
probably by a significant amount.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
All right, whether he's fighting or actually, let's keep it
in this Jones aspall matchup in theory here if Saturday's
version of Poeton at full strength, full camp or close
enough tow one hundred percent full strength is what he
still has. Let's imagine him now with a little more
weight on the frame. Let's also remind ourselves that he's
stuffed all twelve takedowns from Ank Alive. Whenever we originally

(41:31):
talked about the idea of the Poton Jones super fight,
when John was really pushing for it so that he
didn't have to fight aspinall, the first thing we said, well, yeah,
John's just gonna take him down like he did Serial
Gain and just sit on him. Do you feel like
that would be a major factor in that fight?

Speaker 7 (41:44):
Like?

Speaker 1 (41:44):
What is full strength thirty eight year old Pooton moving
up with that speed, with that power? What would that
look like against John? In your eyes? Does he still
end up on the bottom?

Speaker 3 (41:57):
I would imagine that he would. I mean, And if
you're John Jones, are you trying to strike with that
fucking no? But that fucking guy for any I mean,
for any of these.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
What did Tom Aspinall say if you have to fight.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Him, he would rugby tackle him after running across the octagon,
like dude, Stan, look at on calive On. Calith is
a talented, well rounded fighter. Is he the best striker
at two of five or the division? No? But he's
very competent and very good, and he couldn't last eighty
seconds under duress. I mean, just consider that. Do you
think John Jones would last any longer under duress?

Speaker 1 (42:31):
No?

Speaker 3 (42:31):
No, absolutely, or aspinall or gone or any of these guys.
They would have to change up the equation. So to me,
that's why this win is so great. But at the
same time, it does leave some questions because it's like, right, well,
now that the cat's out of the bag, that you
might just come out of there like evil Knievel shot
out of a goddamn cannon. They're gonna be ready for this,
and at a bare minimum they're gonna want to turn
the tide on him. What does that do? We'll have

(42:53):
to see.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Wow, that stuff right there.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Listen to the conversations that we're having, right listen to
how fun these possibilities sound. Like Pooton just bring Poton
just brings joy, does he not? It just brings joy.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
I used to say that about the fighting Nerds when
they used to win. They just bring fun joy. But
Pooton does. So to remind you, Poton ten and two
in UFC in less than four years, two division championships.
Now on his second reign at light heavyweight, he has
beaten everyone he has stepped foot into the octagon with.
He has twelve fights, eight of them have been title fights.

(43:28):
The stats go on and on, So Luke Thomas, this
is probably the most important question of what could happen
by him moving up to heavyweight. In my mind, John
Jones two division champion, the recognized goat. Could you make
an argument for GSP, you know, even someone like Habib
or Silva, I mean you could, but I've never been
in a time where it's felt more universal that John
Jones is the goat. If Alex Pereira were to defeat

(43:51):
John Jones in a super fight or defeat the winner
of aspinaal Gon to become the first three division champion
in UFC history, would you feel comfortable saying he could
exit those fights as the goat in the history of
the sport? Or is it too special and unique his
run to compare it to others, Because if you had

(44:11):
to say, at thirty eight, what's left for him? What
else could he do? We're talking about you know, Jones
super fight win or that third division title. But with that,
is that enough for him to not only enter that conversation,
But to potentially exit the cage with that mythical title
with people saying, Yep, he's probably the best we've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
I'm not sure how to answer that question, because do
I consider him the most objectively talented fighter that has
ever entered the octagon?

Speaker 1 (44:38):
I don't think I can say that, not on a
pound for pound level.

Speaker 7 (44:41):
No.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
However, if you have a double champ record in the
highest level of professional kickboxing for heavyweights anyway, or for
big guys, and then you have the most unique run
and achieve a feat of excellence before any other fighter

(45:02):
could do it to your point, becoming a triple champ,
what are you supposed to call that guy?

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Or if you take on the reigning go although you
know he's older, but he's if he signs up for
the fight, you take him on, and let's say you
beat him. Yeah, isn't that like the easiest path to
try to get there? I'm not saying, well, beating the champion,
even a win over an old Jones, I'm not seeing
that automatically catapults him. But if you did get that,
if you became the first three division champion, I mean
that's hard.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
That's like I don't even know why. I don't know
if it's so mental, it's actually quite I've said this again.
I said it on the show, I said it on
Saturday Night. Like the guy achieves in ways that are
so unusual by conventional standards that like when you're trying
to compare him to other people, it's like, Okay, well
there's pieces that fit, but he's his own unique standard.
It's the Poeton standard, and it's just in real time,

(45:48):
hard to grasp, but a fun thing to witness.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
It's it's crazy. I mean, I always say that about
Lennox Lewis's heavyweight boxing reputation, that he's a top five
heavyweight of all time, and one of the biggest things
is he had two losses, both of which he avenged
by knockout in title rematches. So he beat everybody he fought.
What if Perera runs that table and has that same
part to his legacy, that's pretty damn awesome. I know,
a beat beat everybody, fought to GSP ultimately beat everybody.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yes he did. He lost him at Hughes, he beat him,
he lost him at Sarah.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Okay, so he's got that going for him too. That
is to me.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
That's an incredible st Yeah, that's when you can do
that you're doing. I mean, yeah, are you gonna win
every time?

Speaker 13 (46:21):
No?

Speaker 3 (46:21):
But you were the better guy every time, right.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
I know Pere or I know Peera lost to out
of signing in the rematch, but he also got him
in the first place kickboxing and that and all right,
let's go to topic number three. We go to that comin
event there at UFC three twenty in Las Vegas, as
Morob Devalishvili extends that wind streak till fourteen and bantamweight
goat talks are now swirling following his victory over Corey Sanhagan,

(46:45):
And I know what you're gonna say, No one can
score a big win in MMA these days without a
podcast showing up and doing the whole goat thing. But
as we try to figure out that the machine has
won fourteen consecutive fights, he's too shy of Anderson Silver's record,
one shy of Islam Mahjev And he's moved into a
first place tie for most title defenses in Bandham Wait history,
and he seemingly cleaned out his own era in this

(47:08):
division short of fighting teammate Aljamain Sterling, who's no longer
in this division, and when you consider the eight fight
win streak that got him to this point where wins
over Marlon Marie, Joseialdo peordr Jan Henry sa Hudo, Shawn
O'Malley twice, umarg and Omagha Medov and now Corey Sanagan.
Has Morob done enough to supplant names like Dominic Cruz

(47:32):
and TJ. Dillashaw in this conversation for bandam waight goat
or are we just fill in time here with another segment?

Speaker 4 (47:37):
No?

Speaker 3 (47:37):
I think he has order bare minimum. I don't think
the argument is that hard to make, You're I think
I was looking at some of their streaks and there's
a there's a win streak there that Domina Cruz has
up until the Garbrandt fight, even with all the injury,
that is still very very good. Two wins over Uraya
went over, Mizugaki, went over TJ.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Dimitrius Johnson, Matris.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Johnson's and that I was there for that fight, and
you know he housed him, and everyone'd be like, well
he was flyway true, But DJ went up to thirty
five at one, and you know he was great there, so,
like I get the point, it was a different kind
of DJ, but nevertheless it was a different kind of
dom Cruz. I don't think that the argument is so
overpowering BC that if you believe that the answer is Cruise,

(48:19):
that you have no place to go to. What I
am going to say though, is now it's becoming not
quite undeniable, but pretty close that Morob is the guy
certainly across eras I would pick Morob to beat any
of them. I don't think that part is really in
any way in question. For me, what he's done is remarkable.
The thing that really stands out to me, BC is
you know, it's kind of funny, right Cruse lost early

(48:44):
to Favor when he was barely recognizable in WEC, and
then eventually they fought two more times than he won
both of those. But when you look at the age
of which he fought him, I think even the third fight,
Cruse was close to like thirty one years of age.
Morob is he'll be thirty five in January. When Cruz
was thirty five, he was fighting Henry Sehudo. And what

(49:05):
I mean by that is Morob is able to do things.
Obviously later in his athletic career. That's part of it.
But the other part is, dude, he's a little bit
of an accidental champion. You know a lot of times, Like, dude,
I remember when I saw Saint Pierre's UFC, I mean,
his first fight with Hughes, which he lost, but you
could just tell early, like this guy was different. The
same when I saw Ilio. I was like with John
Jones early, the same thing with John Jones, you can
just tell something too, You're like, they're doing something different.

(49:28):
Rob wasn't necessarily that guy, and I think that's why
a lot of us, me included, were a little slow
to come around on him.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
He was adding those skills everything.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
That's the part. It's like the thing that he was
doing when he was fighting lesser competition now he's doing
when he's fighting the non lesser competition, and that to
me is just so unusual, so remarkable, so special, and
to your point, the accumulative weight of what he has achieved.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Most names that I mentioned is everyone who is in
power in this division in the less Like, we're at the.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Point now where we're like, who could who could even
give him a threat? Maybe Song you Dong, not really
maybe Yan in a rematch, but he already Beata fifty
attempted to take down.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Tamar in a rematch. Is the fight that guy? He's
he's got to defeat Mario Batista, and I think if
Umar ratchets up that that stamina even more, we're gonna
have a fight. But whatever, we thought that a few
times on this journey. I thought so Judo was gonna
beat him. I thought a few different people were gonna
beat him. He just keeps getting better. But he's also
this undeniable alien who was an absurdtionin the best cardio

(50:30):
we've ever seen. I mean, let's talk about it. Umar
won the first two rounds I thought against Morob until
Morob turned into the machine there and once he gets
you even fatigued for a second, he's just gonna be
all over you. San Dagan looked fantastic in this first round,
where you're like, maybe we misread this. Maybe BC was right.
This style is going to be tough for him. Morob
almost knocked him out in round two. He came really

(50:52):
damn close, and on my scorecard, just cruised the rest
of the way. What changed, what changed for Corey, who
had a great game plan, was comp depletely well prepared
and probably would have been a champion one time in
any other era. Instead, he's now got bridesmaid sort of
thing wrapped around him. But that fight was his inuntil
it wasn't, and it never was again.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I mean two things. One, Morob doesn't have to be
judicious about his offense. He does in the sense that
he doesn't want to be so open that he's getting
countered all the time. But he doesn't have to pick
and choose about like other people do. They have to
think about what am I going to do in round five?
He can just flow, and I think that opens him
up to he's throwing punches when Corey's up against the fence,

(51:31):
or he's going for takedowns or transitioning or whatever. He
can just do whatever he wants because there's no consideration.
More to that point, BC he's striking is underrated. He's
got that lead left hook that he constantly. It's not
going to knock you out, but will it interrupt or
rhythm or disrupt you know, your your base, or limit
the impact of what you can throw. He's got little
tricks like that, and he will slow down.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
So once you slow down, he becomes so much more.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
The other part, too, is I think he hurt Corey,
as you indicated in that second round. Corey had a
better third round than a second round, but clearly lost
that one. To me, you could have given round four
to Corey is a document. There's an argument for it,
but they didn't happen. But you could. He had a
decent round. But the poem's trying to make is after
the second round, he was still digging himself out of
a hole in the third round. And this was the

(52:15):
other part, like what was the what was the sin?
To your point? By the way, Saan Haagan did not
fight poorly. He thought he was prepared, He was in shape,
He had an idea about what he wanted to do
his game.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
He came back from getting his ask kick, no.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Question, he gave a shot. He gave himself a shot
to win against maybe the best guy to ever do it.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
No shame.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
He didn't fuck around and like shit the bed or
what was up with that game plan? Nah, he gave
it a shot. It's just you know, it's like it's
just it's the Gordian not like how are you gonna
get around this? The point I'm trying to make is.
His theory BC was if we get locked hands with
Morob and he's behind you, their plan was to wrestle up,
break the hands and then turn. And then Morob just

(52:55):
found a way to reset that so many times Corey
couldn't get it. The offense going, yeah, it's interesting. Morab
will go offense, offense, offense hold, offense, offense, offense hold,
and they just and then oh you want to get going,
pick up Matt return, pick up Matt return. He never
lets you settle into any kind of offensive rhythm. And

(53:15):
to your point, because he just has a gas tank
like we've never seen it, you can only it's just gas,
no break.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
It seems like you can only hurt him in like
the final minute and a half of round five. That's
the long time he allows you to, like, you know,
outside of the Marash fight a moment while this night
seemed to be all about Poeton and boy did we
give him his flowers. I welcome the goat talk about Morob,
not only because he's earned it, but because he's so
damn unique, weird and lovable, like eerie, like Pereira, but

(53:41):
in his own way. Throwing to this video here here's
Mirob at six am on Sunday morning at a club
on stage celebrating his win. He would end up shirtless.
I mean, how do you not love this guy?

Speaker 3 (53:52):
I like how he's not dancing and he's just shadowboxing.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
I mean, this is awesome. I don't even think he drinks,
does he?

Speaker 3 (53:58):
I think he just don't like it.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
He just aggressively gets after life.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I wish I felt this happy.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Ever, this is so awesome. I mean Long Island, Luke,
you love Long Island in This guy, to you is
probably an adopted would would you?

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Yeah, that's the one I can honestly say. But there's
an epic video of Morob from like ten years ago
at Fravola's house party, like climbing a tent in his
jack yard doing basically this exact thing, and it's epic.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
He seems like a great time.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yeah, let's hear a Dana White Settle the Goat talk
here about Morob.

Speaker 11 (54:29):
I found on looking for a fight and literally Matt
Sarah told me that night, this guy's gonna be one
of your greatest champions. Ever, it took me a while
to see it, and a lot of other people. I think, uh,
you know, everybody always doubts him Corey. Corey is a very,
very fucking tough guy. And you know, it wasn't the
most exciting fight of the night, but Morob dominated.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
He seems to He seems to want to fight in December,
to the surprise of no one.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Is that something I guess you'd entertain another short notice
fight for Morob?

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Did he say he wants to fight in December? Pay
per view?

Speaker 11 (55:02):
December? There's another Tuesday conversation.

Speaker 9 (55:06):
Like Morob doing what he's doing, Is it easy to
say that he might be the best bantamweight champion he's
ever had?

Speaker 1 (55:14):
No question? Absolutely, he just said I like that. He
said that. I think they should give him that chance
to come back in December against piotr Yan. That would
be a great rematch. Jan's earned it, he deserves this.
And then we set up if if Umar gets past
Mario Bautista, I think that's the last remaining Like I've
got to see that one more time. That's my opinion,
and Morob clearly won their first fight. I just feel

(55:35):
like that is the only guy Umar. I mean, Jan
could do it, but really the Umar is the only
guy that I believe maybe could do it. But here's
the deal. Rob is not thinking about one forty five.
We have some sound on that. Can you throw that?
No featherweight here from Rob.

Speaker 8 (55:51):
Everybody's beautiful.

Speaker 13 (55:53):
Like even gsp said, like we all lose in a gym,
like some training partners. I'm gonna tell you guys, Like
so we saw Pachi Mix just lost fight. But this
guy many times submit me in a gym. You know
he's good, but sometimes fight doesn't go go your way.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
You know.

Speaker 8 (56:14):
I saw him like.

Speaker 13 (56:18):
I think yesterday Patchy Mix and he got chills and
he told me he was training through like during the
like he has an impaction you know, I think stop
impaction and stuff. So it's it's it's it's it's fight
fight business. And we saw like first fight Uncle I
versus Pereira, different result this time, different result next.

Speaker 8 (56:40):
Maybe there are times you know, it's a fight and.

Speaker 13 (56:43):
Everybody's bearable, good luck to fight with me, but it's
of course everybody.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Oh here's right. That was the wrong clip that I
like that he said that. I think he's trying to
say that in defense of Like even Rogan was like,
there's nobody left for you to fight, you know what
I mean? And I don't think as we're about to
hear that he wants to move up and do a
future you know, super fight with volcanvsk. He wants to
stay in his division Bernard Hopkins style. He's got three
title defenses, that's tied for the record. He says he
wants to fight till he's fifty maybecutive Uh five, okay five?

(57:13):
And are we cont wc there.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Yes, that would be that would be fair in my judgment.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Okay, interesting, Let's hear Morob talk about that specifically.

Speaker 8 (57:23):
This is my division and I'm comfortable here.

Speaker 13 (57:26):
I don't want to like try go up and make
a mess and uh, you know, because I don't want
to be like, you know, without in white, you know,
saying it's like you have a if somebody show up.

Speaker 8 (57:38):
I'll just wedding tomorrow.

Speaker 13 (57:39):
We will facing, we will be mad the least, you know.
So it's like the guys earned them, like wait, I
mean whatever. So and then also I'm comfortable here, like
you know, I wanna be the my division champion.

Speaker 8 (57:54):
And and then there is like.

Speaker 13 (58:00):
I mean I have respect for all these guys, especially
like my brother al Jemain Stanley wokanos Ski and.

Speaker 8 (58:08):
I don't want to fight these guys. You know, I'm
good here. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
We'll see, you'll see, we'll see, we'll see who comes
up on the underneath to eventually be a contender for him.
But right now he's looking he's I mean, he could
be a number two, you can. Could you put him
above Islam, who's only taking a step back because Elia
is rising, And Mahachev, who had to fight McConnell last minute,
hasn't been fighting I guess the the Super A list,

(58:32):
but he will be soon. He's been moving up to
fight Jack Dela Mettelena's.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
But I haven't thought about it.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
I guess you could.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
I mean the names separily, you could now obviously if
Islam Beach Jam, change that again.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
But right now I think I have Ilia one, Morab two,
Islam three, and then where you're going four you put
Pereira there, put Pantosia five. I mean, this is this
is a wild time to be alive. I'm loving it
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Let's move on to topic number four. The UFC three
to twenty undercard brought a lot of surprises, explosions, and
breakthrough wins. Obviously none bigger, of course than Yeri Prohotzka

(01:00:30):
in round three. Down on the scorecards against Khalil Rowntree Junior,
talk about embracing the chaos. After Prootsko has picked apart
for two rounds, he went into berserker mode in round
three and im probably finished a top five opponent to
put him within striking distance once more at that UFC
Light Heavyweight title. Luke, you've actually talked with Yuri in
the past about his game. You know his game very well.

(01:00:52):
After this performance and all the love he's receiving for
being as uniquely weird and dangerous as he is, should
poke prohats he could just continue to fight like a
crazed asshole the rest of the way. Put that pressure
on gas people out and do exactly what he did
to Rountree, who looked like a champion for two rounds,
by the way, for ten minute. What do you do
if you're pro, do you just continue this chaos?

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
I don't think that. I just that's a tough one.
I don't think it's a good idea. Now you're gonna
be like, well, what he was doing before he went
into berzerker mode wasn't going to get the job done.
And that is also true. I mean there's you know,
seven or eight minutes into this fight, BC, you were like,
oh Jesus, this is Khalil's got his number. You know,

(01:01:34):
I thought Khalil had his number here.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
He was confused. He was getting pieced up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
And again that was another one. They were in open
stance and he just couldn't figure out a way to
get through that first line of defense.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
It was really really different. The tree had range distance.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Everything he threw was heard and like huge powerful hooks
he was landing. But I'm gonna say this, man, like,
you know, I think that Prohotchka should treat his unus
just I mean absurd levels of durability as an ace
in the hole. In other words, I actually feel like,

(01:02:06):
given the circumstances, he went to that at the right time.
He went to the get the he went to get
the the sawed off from the trunk when he.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Had to let me get over my car and get
my other gun.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Yeah, I think that's what it felt like to me,
And and that worked. And it's amazing that he's got
that gear, I will say. People being like, oh, he
didn't reprove at all, I don't really agree with that.
You ever seen, you know what a double end bag is?
Those are the bags that sit like this and it's
tied to the ceiling and it's tied to the floor,
and you press it and it goes out and comes
back so you can jab it and then it comes
back and you can slip. When he is playing at

(01:02:40):
a range where his opponent almost serves as like a
double end bag and he's flowing and then punching and
then flowing and then punching, breathe right, then he actually
looks amazing. And the reason why he won this fight BC,
aside from just eating enormous punches and kicks the whole
way through, was he got Roundtree to fight at a
stage where they were kind of trading a double n

(01:03:02):
bag style of fighting, and he will win that fight
with any light heavyweight.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
I think you're going to have crazy stamina along with
that chin to be able to keep.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Up that pace. He's an amazing athlete.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
It's insane.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
But the thing I'm going to say is his theatrics
for us are just the stuff of legend. Fans are
going to remember a night like Saturday for a long time.
But dude, I've been around long enough to tell you
someone's going.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
To crack that shit. Oh if he keeps this up
and it's there, well we've already seen it. He lives
by the sword, he dies by this.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
No, no, no no, but he still has good durability. What
I'm saying is someone's going to crack that shit. Where
all that's going to go away?

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
By the way, he improved to eight and oh against
everyone in the UFC not named Alex Perreira, and he
continued this incredible streak of seventeen consecutive fights that have
not gone the distance dating back to twenty sixteen. He
brings the chaos. Here's year. He walking backstage immediately after
this insane victory. I was the champion though that wasn't necessary.

Speaker 8 (01:04:02):
I think it was necessary.

Speaker 12 (01:04:06):
It was necessary.

Speaker 7 (01:04:08):
It was necessary to be.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
To catch a little bit second, it was necessary to
turn into brazerker. It was super necessary, Jed, miss you
sat here and challenged you to start loving this man.
Was Saturday of the turning point. We saw that reaction
from Luke Thomas.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
I already had a turning point with the Jamal Hill wink,
so I didn't need to be convinced at this point.
But the thing is that YEARI excuse me, Jed likes
it when Year he fights like a donk, and I
like it when he's a little more selective.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
So you'd like.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
But I was gonna say, my man had to pull
the pin on the grenade on this one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
If you wanted to get a win. So well that
I was moving forward, maybe a little head movement and
defense could help him. Let's hear your talk about that.

Speaker 14 (01:04:53):
I started to be to be to believe in my defense,
in my hands up. Man, I didn't and didn't understand
that that works, because yeah, my hands up and head
movements and when I when I first time I connected
together and it worked.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
That is the best quote of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
Like it's like bro boxing has been around for well
over one hundred years. They figured this out a lot, a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Lot of elite MM fighters. I need to watch that
video though. Turns out it works, guys. You know if
I avoid contacts.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
So actually, I cannot believe how poor they just think that,
Like you know, I don't need them up here. I'm
just gonna be yes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Well, look, YERI still believes in this trilogy with Poeton,
and by the way, team Pooton does like him. Glover
to Share gave an interview where he said, like this
third fight will happen in some form. The question is
how does Yury change the result? Here's per Hotsco once more.
But I am really happy that I saw that.

Speaker 7 (01:05:46):
Alex One you can maybe you don't believe me yet,
but I believe I will find a way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
In the third March. What would it be different this
time around?

Speaker 7 (01:05:58):
You? As as you saw the the fight, that was
a pressure. That was a pressure from Alex in this
in this my last fight with Khalil, I really understand
I need a pressure from an opponent from myself, and
in that in that case, I'm working the best.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
I'm doing the best.

Speaker 7 (01:06:17):
I just need to accept who I am and just
go through every time, find a way through Alex Spereira.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
I think the way through is to get him into
a berserker brawl and just try not to get gop.
But that's really hard against Poeton.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Gonna be tough.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
You're gonna welcome the demon, Gonna be tough. And luckily
though he's not accusing him of channeling the spirits anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
For the victory, which it's like, you didn't go to
a shaman this time. Yes, Also YEARI dressed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Like his life is a costume party.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
He's literally dressed like you know, either you're going to
a costume party or this is the most insane cultural
appropriation on planet Earths. Yes. Either way, though no one
seems to get do my man is like I am
a samurai. It's like, dude, you're from You're from the
Czech Republic. I A no, No, you're not all right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Before we get into the many you break through stoppage
performances on this card, I do want to talk about
PATCHI mix. They moved this fight up from the early
prelims to the mid prelims. The official record now is
zero and two in the UFC, and it really wasn't
in my opinion a strong performance against former KSW champion
and debutante Yakub Wicklots. I believe big Lots. What do
they call him, Yakub Jacob Wicklatz. Anyway, Yakup gets the

(01:07:27):
win here. But you had Daniel Cormier, you had John
Annick trying to make the argument that the judging got
it wrong and that maybe it should have been two
to one Patchy. But I think the question is beyond
even the scoring on there. Seriously, we you and I
covered his entire run through Belator and he wasn't beaten. No,
but he's beating killed George Horra Gucci finished.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
Was the one he did finish was Horror Gucci who
he dominated, and he being Sergio.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Pezli beating legit. Frickin' dudes, the guy that showed up
for both UFC fights is not the same guy. No
head movement, body language is not good, flat foot, just
I don't know what happened Luke, what the hell happened
to him?

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
At least in the case of Tatiano Suarez, you can say, hey,
here's a case where somebody had a boatload of injuries
that they but you know, just even if you could
get over them the next day. You're losing some of
the physical capability that comes with you know, surgical rehabilitation
or whatever. And then also just a ton of time
be see that she lost in her career. And by

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the way, even with all of that, she still might
get a title like that's actually not how the Roman possibility.
But at a bare minimum, you know, was there a
difference from what she was doing pre pandemic to now
in terms of how she looked? And the answer is
quite clearly that there was. But her you can look
at that situation and be like, right, well, this makes sense.
The injuries, the time off, it really had an impact.

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I don't know what happened with Patchy. I don't know
if he's concealing some kind of injury that we don't
know about. I don't know if because.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
It's not it's not that his skills don't translate on
this level. He's not putting the best of him out there.
He doesn't have that aura he had in militaria. So
is there a disconnection? Do you think it's something mental?

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
I mean, it honestly might be the fact that he
is kind of stiff on the feet. Was I mean,
there was a bit of a red flag in the
Mega Met Mega Met Mega Medov rematch correct and something.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
That's where it really started.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
They signed him anyway after that, and it's like, dude,
this guy used to be able to find the back effortlessly.
This was the guy who had a step through ko
On Ralphie on Statts. This was a guy who dominated
Sergio Pettison finished him off too. What the fuck is
happening here? I don't under This is my challenge to everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
I don't know where the footage would even be. Maybe
it's on YouTube, maybe it's not. My challenge is watch
Patchy Mix in the bellat or Grand Prix, the Bantaway
Grand Prix. It's four fights, he wins by finish and
three of them and come to the conclusion that he's boring,
I dare you, and then come to the conclusion that
he's not good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
I dare you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
It is a distant memory at this point and people
are just forgetting about it. But to your point, we
watched that shit happened.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
It's gone, it's not there, and then I just long island.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Luke, do you have a theory about why PATCHI Mix
has looked this way because you could say, oh, well,
the uf he's a step up. I'm sorry, with all
due respect to his last two opponents, especially this one
on Saturday, they're actually like, he's not better than killed you, Horr, Gucci,
He's not better than Sergio Pettis. What is happening?

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
You made a good point, like I don't His two
opponents in the UFC were tough guys.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I don't want to like Mario.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
I'm not saying they're bad, and Mario especially is hard
to look good against you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Your point, horror, Gucci is obviously a legend and more
well rounded whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:10:35):
But yeah, dude, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
I heard I saw someone say that him and Tatiana
are winless since they got engaged. But I actually think
that's false because I'm pretty sure he proposed to Tatiana
just before the Magamed Magametov fight, the one that he
won by close split decision.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
May I think she had a win before the title
opportunity too, didn't you have a comeback and win? I
don't know. Whatever the point is, they're both suffering unfortunately
in terms of not putting the best of them out.
Can you show that picture of him long. Do you
think he deserved this way?

Speaker 9 (01:11:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Is this no?

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
So in real time we knew was one one going
into the third, and I think I remember saying like,
I feel like Patchie could win this, but I wasn't
like shocked at the score card, but with decision.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
I mean, obviously, how could anybody sit there and be
mad about that scorecard? He didn't even pass guard the
vast majority of the time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
He got freaking mounted, dude, And I know he.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Had the back at the end of the third for
a minute, which was I was like, Okay, well, what
the fuck was this?

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
The guy is known as I mean to the extenting
used to be criticism of him, that was he wasn't
good enough. It's like, well, he's just a backpacker.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Where where is that?

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
I don't even see where that is? So to me,
it's like, dude, I don't know what happened. I don't
know again, mental block, hidden injury. I honestly don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
I wish him well. I hope he bounces his back.
He's still young enough. He's what like thirty one, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Still something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Yeah, he only has what three career defeats one of
them to one Archieletta in a title fight, and then
these two back to back UFC debuts. I love him
to see him, to get to see him have a
chance to show how good he really is, because we've
seen it. Who were the three?

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
So the PFL sent Pico mix at least, so Patricio
is the only one that's gotten to win of the three.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Yes, fought once. Yes, all right, let's talk about the
breakthrough performance. So so look from Usef Solal to Joe
pifer A, Taba Gautier to Edmund Shabazi and Brahimage. Who
scored it is?

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
They said on the I ate crow on my watch along,
I said, me and Luke Thomas got into an argument
about this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
He was right, who do you think had the biggest
breakout win for where their stock was coming in to
where it is now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
It's a good one. The problem is Gautier obviously looks
like a million bucks. But yeah, he was fighting as
Joe bart looked like, I mean, you know that guy
got electric.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
There was running from the opening.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
You ever seen guys like talk cops and then they
hit him with a taser and then they just freeze
up and then it felt like he got tasered, gotate was.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Almost mad afterwards. Ask him when we want to fight?
He's like anybody, just like right now, bring somebody else in,
let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Do you guys watch embedded with him and the cats? No,
but I got to see that My man is obsessed
with kittens. He has like five kittens at home and
then he goes to a cat cafe to waste time.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
He is so wholesome. He's the man that is a
little bit much for me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
They were talking up his body being so large from middleweight, go.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
To his fucking abs, protrude out. I've never seen anything
quite like that. All right, So for me, the Brahi
my ten finger guillotine was real nice.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
I will absolutely say that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
I don't know if it made a huge impact, something
like changing it. I'm gonna actually say Edmund Shabazi and
or Andre Mouniz, Yes, I don't think. Again, I don't
think anyone had like this worrow, you know, uplifting moment
you needs.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
His punch resistance has been against him for a while,
you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Like Edmund just starting to put things together a little
bit better.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
He's physically filled out, which is good.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
He's and the game all connects smoothly at this point.
He doesn't rush things, although he's still kind of dangerous obviously.
In the stand up, I liked what I saw from
Edmund Shabazi and I thought that and by by the way,
Ronica Hardy had a pretty decent performance too, but he did.
I'm gonna go with Edmund shabazim h.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
That was a very good victory for Edmund. And it's
good to see because what am I saying?

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Dud Daniel Santos, They didn't even put him on the
list over to young Juice on you. You're right, that's
my bast dude. That fight was fun for as long
as it lasted. And then my man got electrocuted.

Speaker 7 (01:14:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
He had a lot of spinny shit in that one.
Uh yeah, but they fought. They was a heart on
for your boys. Uck. We'll get into that, all right.
Let's start the top.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
You see him in the back like giving prep advice,
Like what the fuck is he going to say to
you before a fist fight that you would ever need
to hear?

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Didn't learn the lesson the hard way? All right? Uh,
let's talk about U SEFs Law here, a featherweight dude,
he needed ninety eight seconds to submit Josh Emmon after
a clean takedown, and he was like above and beyond
apologetic about that Cater fight where it was boring. He
ran he uh, he accused, uh, he excused Cater of greasing.

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Like there was a lot the fans didn't like about
that performance. Zolavo almost went above and beyond to say, like,
that's not me. I apologize. You'll see, dude, he's streaking
at featherweight. This felt like the exact victory at the
exact time that he needed to be taken seriously because
that's that's a Josh Emma who can still bang well.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
I mean, I'm glad Josh Eedmont spent a portion of
this camp working on his power. That proved quite useful.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Very I didn't understand what the hell he was doing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
If you have if you are on top of someone
and they turn at an angle, right so now it's
ninety degrees and they frame for an arm bar, your
job as the top man is to force compression because
what you want as the bottom man is extension.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
He just fucking stood up, and what happens when you
used to it just comes f I was like, bro,
what the fuck.

Speaker 12 (01:15:40):
Are you doing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
There's a little dunk in there saying.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
A lot of times in MMA, guys will think, oh,
by training partners, try this and it doesn't work, I'm
gonna he man this shit, and ninety nine percent of
the time it's true. But like in fights that goes
down to like, let's say, at best fifty percent, and
they don't make that connection. You have to have a
slow compression then slowly inched the elbow out and then
you're cooking with gas. And he didn't do that, and

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I was like, what the fuck is that? So the
Law to me was opportunistic and has well rounded skills,
and I definitely want to see more. But at the
same time, like Emma kind of gave it to him
a little bit. It was a little wir for.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Zilal to shake off a four fight straight where he
didn't win, where he went oh three to one. Then
now to win eight in a row, and there are
good victories Calvin Cator, Jack Shore, Billy Q. And now
you get Josh Emmett. I'm not saying give him a
t shot now, I'm not saying given that, but like,
give him a fight that matters, really test him let's
see what we got in this division. Absolutely, Joe Pifer
was in this discussion because he did have a breakthrough,

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but he did it as ass kick by a boost
Smaga met Off for most of that first round. He
would say afterwards that physically he just didn't feel right.
Mentally he was and it wasn't until that second round
that he felt that motivation to put it together. Look
a boos, Smaga Metov is ripped. I mean just topped
to boy like bottom of gy rid of the socks,
but like as soon as the pressure comes on him,

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he just crumbles. Is this a redemptive great big bounce back.
Not that he's coming off loss, but Pifer has needed
to regain the buzz that he had coming out of
the Dana White Contentder series. Be like Joe Pifer and
whether it was the loss to Hermanson, whether it was
the Mexico comments, He's become not always likable. Body came
off not always likable. He almost did a full on

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babyface on an American Fighter USA like get behind me type.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Of political rant afterwards. Is this that type of win
that you think could project him in fairness? I thought
the rant was and I mean this is a compliment
somewhat generic. I was sort of pro American without much
beyond it. I don't know if it's a baby face turn,
but I will say to the point that he had
he even said that he had he did you hear
he almost fell asleep in the in the warm up

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room because he was so chill before the fight, and
he was like, I was not really there mentally. And
then of course Mega Madoff, who is good for around,
was given him the business.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Needs to the body of the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Yeah, yeah, so I woke him up. And I think
having to answer for adversity, whether it's because he did
it to himself or because the opponent was good, or
whatever the case may be, and then coming back and
then just absolutely smashing him in the second, I think
it's definitely good for his stock. You know, did you
beat the very best guy? No, but you dealt with
unenviable circumstances and still overcame them and still, by the way,
got a really nice finish in the end. And it

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wasn't with huge power, obviously, he was with a bit
more well rounded skill.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Little face crank, Little face crank.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
So I definitely feel like, you know, again, are we
saying he's a future champion. No, but that was a
real nice win against let's say, challenging circumstances, and he
shined in the end.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
He would say after that he wants either Vittori or
Cannon near next, and that could be the type of
guy that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Now those are more Votory hard to put away, Cannon
ear hard to put away. Those are those are some
tough challenges.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
I'm all in on that one.

Speaker 15 (01:18:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
And we mentioned, of course Gautier taking care of Trace
Trace don Vine.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Yes, somebody he used to know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying on there. Between
Gautier in Santos. We like in both in terms of long.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Term here too early to tell with either of them,
but I got to say a lot to like about
their next step. That's kind of where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Did you like much from yakup wicklots in that Patchy
Mix fight? It was more all about PATCHI but you
weren't overly. He seems talented.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I looked at
him was like a your sucks. That's not what I'm saying,
So that what I'm saying. But did I see anything
next level? That got me intrigued. No, no, I did
not all right tough.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Break Frost and Vanderford and that Brahimi fight, because that
was a fun fight. It went back and forth.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
It was the problem was he was trying to wrap
the legs. So this is what was driving me nuts, right,
Rokimi had his back up against the cage and he's
sitting See did you had Austin either trying to shelf
or wrap the legs. It's like, dude, if his head,
if Brackymi's head is higher than Austin's, that's a problem.
You actually heard Corner talk about it. It's a concept

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called head height. And in fact, if if Vanderfert's head
is above his, it's gonna make sitting up for Rami's difficult.
So the head height battle is kind of important. The
way you can fix this is you just wrap his
legs and then just fucking rotate him off fence. And
he just never did that, and so he just sat
in these positions. I'm like, bro, you're sitting in a

(01:20:06):
dangerous spot for a guy who's got very good guillotines. Yeah,
why are you doing this? And then he just kept
going back to it and I was like he eventually
tried to shelf a little bit later and then rotate
him a little bit later, but like there was all
this time where he's just over pursuing head down where
he is going to have head height and now he
can wrap your fucking neck. Like, I don't know, I didn't,
I didn't, I didn't love the game plan.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Long Islan Luke, anyone you want to shout out because
you are tuned into these prelims.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
Dude, you guys pretty much covered everything. Just want to
give a shout out to Remi's he is from the
Bronx also New York Park. Like four New York fighters
on this card, two of them just train here. But uh,
PATCHI mix fucked it all up.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
He's the only Yah you have, Rotten Carhardy got your back,
by the way she got Jack. She's like kind of
making trying to make a run here.

Speaker 13 (01:20:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
And they were even talking about like, you know, did
she start off with the most auspicious beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Oh and three and then didn't fight for years? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Yeah, but now look at her, she's putting it all together.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
She was rocking a Pantera T shirt post fight. I'm
sure you like that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
I do love Pantera.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Also, Janno Santos like, that's not a great division.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Better win four opponents in a row, not making weight.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
I know she thought angry and she was pissed against Chazon.
You cannot all right, let's go to topic number five.
We had a big one for pfl or was it
in Dubai? It was certainly on paper and from the
matchup in that main event, a rematch of the must
see January lightweight title fight between Usman and Maga Medov
and Paul Hughes. We did have some larger issues here

(01:21:26):
regarding distribution and some other things. But let's start right
off at the top. Usman and Maga Medof edges out
Paul Hughes for the second straight tom. The first was
a majority decision, this time universal, but it's not without
some disruption. After five exciting rounds. Once again, Usman proved
that he's slightly the better fighter in this rivalry. But
Luke is it Well, that's the thing. Is it possible

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to separate both the highly disputed judges scoring, which included
a fifty to forty five card from Brian Minor that
has been much maligned, and the multiple follows from Usman
for the second straight fight, this time with referee Keith
Peterson just not acknowledging that they happen low blows multiple
times that stopped the action when trying to decide whether

(01:22:09):
Hughes ultimately got a fair shake on this night.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Yeah, let me let me start with the Keith Peterson part. Keith, normally,
I'm like, well, these guys have tough jobs. I try
to be as understanding as possible. Keith Peterson, you fucked
up bad. You fucked that fight up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Are you saying he smells like cold cuts and chin No,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
He looks like he's been on we go v or ozembic.
He's all, he's all cleaned up. He still sounds like
but like I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
I'm honestly not trying to be demeaning. I'm being serious.
You fucked that up. You fucked that up big time,
Like the notion that he can even lightly headbutt Hughes
between rounds. And I saw what Pete Peterson said after
that around. He was like, we're gonna obey my commands.
We're gonna bay my commands.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
Keith.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
They didn't obey your commands.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
They'd nobody shit They wasn't just the low blows that
stopped it. There were a bunch of other tiny low
blows where he would be like, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Look, there was no constant fouling. I won't say, just
a little bit back and forth, but mostly from Usman.
Remember Usman had a point taken in the first fight.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
The fact that you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Didn't take a point, Keith Peterson, you absolutely failed as
a referee in that fight. I'm gonna say that, matter
of factly. You fucked that fight.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Did he fail more than the judges?

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
He felt just as much. That fight was a travesty
of officiating led by Keith Peterson. Absolutely, Dude, Why on
earth if Keith Peterson I'm being dead serious, BC. If
you are a prize fighter and Keith Peterson is your referee,

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you're a fool if you don't foul your opponent.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
If you don't, I'm not Yeah, but that's like eighteen
referees on the roster.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
No, no, no. But like the fact that he would
let that go on for as long as he did, Dude,
you are negligent, Keith Peterson. You are negligent. You acted
negligently and you fucked that fight up. There is an
absolutely zero. I don't give a shit what anyone tells you.
Zero justifiable reasons for what Keith Peterson did other than

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plainly cowardice. Cowardice on the part of doing the job
that they need you to do. If you want fowls
to stop in MMA, fucking do something about it, which
you've failed to fucking do Number one, Number two.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Let him cook. Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
I'm just so tired of watching the fouls happen, having
consequences for people's vision long term, and then the fight itself.
It drives me fucking crazy. All right, let's talk about
the judging BC. How did you have it so in
real time?

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Three? Two?

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
Ousman me too? Okay, upon rewatch, I'm gonna change that.
I'm gonna go three to two hues.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
So is the swing round round three?

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
Yes? Rounds two, three and four?

Speaker 7 (01:25:00):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
No to me, the swing round is two because I
go two and five hughes, and I'm pretty solid on that. Yes,
three was the one I felt was a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
Maybe that's right, but in retrospect, I didn't feel like yes, yes,
two and three are the five was the easiest one
to judge. I think of the three, maybe you could.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
And I saw a lot of people online having three
two Hughes, A lot of people. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
I think if you're going to make a case for Hughes,
it is two, three five, right. If you're try to
find three rounds for him, it's that way. Now again,
can you find one, three four or whatever for Nrberkameidov.
I don't think number Gomedov winning is a TRAVESTYBC. I don't.
I don't think that's fair. But remember you had Cage
Warriors going on, you had UFC going on, there was

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a shortage. I think of the best of it. I
mean Ben Cartilage, who to me is like the gold
standard good good news. He was at the UFC event,
which is where you would want him, but there just
wasn't enough of him, so to speak, to go around.
This is the part that I come down to. It's
like I understand the argument. And for folks who don't know,
Round one is over b CNI and Long Island Luker judges.

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We have to write our scores down, turn them in.
There's no ability for the next round to start a
until those scores are in, and then B you cannot
revise them later.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
No one's watching the full fight and then going five
nothing Usemann, right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
It doesn't work that way. So I understand the argument
that we're all five rounds close enough that could you
conceive of one person winning fifty forty five? I suppose
on some levels.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Jimon did say after he thought he won every round.
I mean fighters say that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
But yes, but here's what I'm gonna say. The judge
who looks at that fight and can't in any of
the five intervals ever see a case for Paul Hughes winning,
your judgment is bad.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Let's show those scorecards if you don't mine up on
the screen.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
Which, by the way, can we say something about the
PFL putting out multiple versions of the scorecards and then
deleting it? And it was fucking weird.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
There's a ten eight in round five. For a while,
though there is a tena so Brian Minor who had
it fifty forty five. Oustman had a ten to eight
round in favor of Usman in round four.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Four There it's round five, isn't Where am I looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Ryan Miners on the far left? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
Yes, this scorecard makes no sense because it says fifty
forty five.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Ye, this scorecard makes there's there's another eight on the
Daryl round.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
This must have been an early version that they updated,
so I think it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Was just there was no ten eights in that round
either way, No, I thought, Paul, he's one round five?

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
I mean, wait, can you throw that up one more time?
And then that middle judge right there is uh is
what naughty? Ali? Ali? Taudi Ali? That's a forty nine,
forty six, four rounds.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
To one and they give a ten to ten on
round five.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
God, this is a debox to what the fuck is
this scorecard?

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
And then you had Darryl Ransom.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Is that what it says in the yea? So he
had a forty eight forty seven. That's a fair that's
a justifiable scorecard.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
And he gave Paul Hughes two and five just like
I did.

Speaker 5 (01:27:49):
But he also had ten eight round four. Is that legit?

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
That can't be legit because it doesn't make sense. But
to the extent that he gave, like what rounds did
he give to Hughes? He gave him two and five,
he gave three to Usman. Fine, this is a fine score.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Two kis classmates doing the math?

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
Yeah, I mean just playing a tick tack toe with
the shit. Come on, uh dude, I want to know
what the worldview is of how they perceive offense such
that every time the default, because my question is like, Okay,
he came up five to oho on Ousban. Why couldn't
you come up five to oh on Paul Hughes. What

(01:28:23):
would be the difference in how you would perceive it?

Speaker 7 (01:28:25):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
What are you favoring where you can't go five oh,
Paul Hughes, but you can go five all for Usban
And I'm just gonna say you're not good at interpreting
what you're looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
By the way, Usman and maccom is pretty fucking good.
So is Paul Hughes.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
I mean they were both fucking good.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
I mean so if the first fight was almost a
ten out of tenement, it was a leading candidate for
Fighter of the Year, in the best fight in PFL history.
Even if it's a nine point seven, it's a great fight.
How do you sort of rate the second one?

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
This was a fine fight. I wouldn't call it a
barn burner. I think some people felt let down partly
by the scoring. I suspect i'd give it a solid eight.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Solid. It was a very competitive, high energy fight. I
mean usman taking the back as many times as he did,
and then Paul he was shaking him off. One thing
we didn't give credit to Corey Sandhagan constantly getting up
every time Rob took him down. Rob let him yeah
by the way, oh yeah, because Rob scored twenty takedowns,
which is a new five round record.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Rob doesn't try to take your back in the sense
of hooks in BROB just wants to be on the
back as a way to just be behind your elbows,
so there's no offense. Usbin still tries to take the
back with those hooks, and I think that actually does
him no service against the guy as good as Paul Hughes. Also,
Paul Hughes has a stans orthodox. He'd whipped that hook
around and as soon as the shoulder would pass, Usbin

(01:29:36):
was right behind him onto the back like the way
he would time those hooks out. Dude, Usbin's I'm gonna
say this, I.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
Love how he switches stances in the flow him.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
He's Usbin's ability to chain together attacks and the speed
at which he can do it. He's the best at
one hundred and fifty five in the world. At Wow,
I was going to ask you that at that at
that one particular.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
We're gonna ask you in the whole world, are we
looking at a top three or five lightweight here?

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
I think I think either of those guys can compete
with the top five if you have seen no question absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Whether you like the scoring or not, it is another
win for the unbeaten Rmaga Metof and you can add
to the abdullmanac tree. Look at this graphic here of
the four fighters directly.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
It's kind of insane.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
Twenty one to one is Islam Mahachev former Pomfu Pom king,
you could still be on your list, twenty nine and
oh the retired Habib now the coach eighteen and one
Umar Demagametov, who's going to face Mario Bautista for probably
a shot at the title, and now twenty and oh
Usman normalgam Enav ninety four and two for Abdulmanak's son,
two of his nephews and a gentleman in Islam who's

(01:30:35):
considered a son from the very beginning. That's an incredible legacy.
But if you're PFL regarding this matchup, this rivalry, does
the controversy warrant an eventual third fight, and how quickly
would you go back to that? I mean, if you're usman,
You're like, what else do I have to do? Right?
I think that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
I mean, if they did, I would not complain. I
just think it's unlikely. I think what probably is going
to happen, and maybe even best for the promotion purposes
is give each of them some newer opponents, you know,
kind of cycle it through. But as far as I'm concerned,
they have unfinished business. I just and I'm gonna say
this to PFL too, Like, I get that they're in
by the way, obviously they're in Abu Dhabi or Dubai.

(01:31:15):
I think Dubai because they're being paid by the government
there to bring a show, which you know, I get
I understand at this point, But didn't you find it
weird that they had da coda ditchit? But walking around
Dubai and she was like, Wow, Dubai is so nice
and modern and the sun is bright, not like bullshit
ass Manchester, England. I'm like, aren't you from Manchester? Like
what the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
You didn't see that?

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
She was like, oh, it's not great. She didn't say that,
but she was like, it's not gray and gloomy all
the time, like Manchester. I'm like, aren't you from there?

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Like he now lives in Florida, which is really nice?

Speaker 7 (01:31:48):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Yeah, a difference to kinda get interviewed on the broadcast.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
He was there, I didn't. I didn't see him get interviewed.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
No, all right, let's talk about the PFL in general. Now,
look shout out to PFL PR. They were great to me.
They got me both with usman Paul Hughes and new
CEO John Martin and the build to that fight. But
even before the fight happened on Friday, a lot of
people online are like, look at their YouTube channel. They
have not promoted this. It's supposed to be the biggest
fight in their company history, this can't miss rematch. They
have not gone the length to promote. You can argue that.

(01:32:16):
But then when we all tried to tune in Friday afternoon,
if you're an ESPN Plus subscriber and you're thinking, like normal,
you're just going to go to the menu and click
on live PFL. They gave you that up charge for
what is it called the.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
ESPN on Limited Limited.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
And I know that WWE fans just went through this
in the first pay per view Poe that they just
had Wrestled Palooza, but like, this is a company that
desperately wants to change its image with MMA fans. They
brought in the new CEO who seems to get it.
We played it up last week.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Cardivera didn't necessarily deliver, but it was a well put
together card.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
I know that this is being framed as an ESPN
decision and not a PFL decision. Is but how bad
does this look upon the PFL mixed with people already
saying you got this great card on paper and you're
not doing much to promot and now average fans have
to pay an additional fee on top of this. So
they basically made it a pay per view without announcing
it like that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
Basically, I mean, this was the problem that I think
PFL had is that who's DECI I talked to some
folks in the organization. My understanding is, you know, if
it was up to them, they'd be on ESPN Linear,
not even on the Plus much less Unlimited. But here's
what I'm gonna say to the PFL folks. It's not
their fault, and I'm being serious that this was an

(01:33:29):
ESPN decision. ESPN decided to put them in this place.
They can't do anything about it. What they can do is,
if you're going to be there, you need to go
on an information campaign to let everyone know so that
it's not Friday afternoon. I'm like, oh, I'm just going
to fire up ESPN Plus and I'm gonna watch this,
and all of a sudden, now I can't. They should

(01:33:50):
have done everything possible, even if it would have caused
a little bit of blowback. You're going to get blowback
one way or the other. You might as well get
it just being transparent and honest. This is how you're
gonna have to watch this particular event. You know, I
was pissed off and they didn't do any of that.
I didn't watch it because of that, And everyone's like,
whyn't you to stream guys. I know how to do
stre how to do it, But like, the whole point is,

(01:34:11):
you took away my interest by by the bait and
switch to that. UNFL should have done a media tour
with these guys. I'm glad that they went to you,
but they should have gone to a lot of people.
They should have done that. They should have they should
have had state side or even UK or or I
should say, you know, in Northern Ireland or whatever the
fuck in Belfast or wherever, having some kind of press

(01:34:31):
conference there that they all got everyone excited about. They
should have done things that let people know, a this
is coming, here's how you're gonna watch it and why
you should care. And it's like, I get, if you're
getting money from a government, you know, you're just you know,
it's you're on you're on autopilot. But you can't treat
it that way. You got to treat it like it's
still something that is special because that fight, it wasn't
like the most amazing fight. Having those two together in

(01:34:54):
that rivalry is special.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
Very quickly, Sergio pettit's on the undercard, spinning back elbow
to the face of just just Nasty Tomaga med Ma
Gonna Medoff knocked him out cold with Habib in the corner,
by the way, and Bib was going sick. In the
main event for usman, Cory Anderson, front of the Program
wins the inaugural PFL Light Heavyweight Championship with a decision
in the rematch with gazillion Time, and then the PFL

(01:35:18):
doesn't give an interview afterwards, like what.

Speaker 16 (01:35:20):
Are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
I just couldn't believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
I just couldn't believe it. Ah, that is what it
is right there, PFL on Friday, I was just I
guess in all, I'm disappointed. I wanted them to win.
I wanted this to be like this breakthrough moment for PFL.
Instead it was kind of nerve wrecking. But we'll see
where they go from here. Well, all right, I'll tell
you where I'm going to go from here, Luke, to
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(01:38:13):
to completion. Let's hear the first one from our friend
over there at at Eric Bolden, Who's stock rose the
most from all across mixed martial arts this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
It's it's Poeton, It's Poton. Yeah close, Rob took another step,
but Poton felt like like the kool Aid man bursting
through the fucking It really was.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
It really was.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Yeah, here's the thing, everyone's gonna be like, Oh Poton
stock was high. Yes and no. Yes, obviously on some
level it was. We had talked about like you know
that Bermuda triangle of On Calias. Yes, people were a
little bit deflated from that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
This was, I mean, the party is back. It really was.
And seriously, Yeri though Yerie like on the on, like
the character of Yeri that really like it, Like people
love that man.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
Yes, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
That's true, that that idea delightfully weird him as an entertainer.

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
Yes, that got bumped on.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Then seriously to see him in the crowd tearing up
when poets On wins the time like a check samurai,
just this ultimate like I love this weird man. I
love him so much. All right. Second question, what do
we got from at.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
I'm not even saying that name.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Douki macpoopy stink? Is that when you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
Imagine setting that up and being like, Hey, your employer
needs to know what your social handles are, and it's like,
oh yeah, it's Booty Eaters sixty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
Like if Morob knocks out Corey in the second, oh,
the second round on Saturday, if he had knocked him
out in the second, well, that's a good question.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
That's a great question.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
Could that have moved him up to pucause that would
have been consecutive stoppages he had the.

Speaker 3 (01:39:40):
Sol I still think the fact that Ali went up
and wait would not allow that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
And he's flatlining these likes.

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
To your point, it would make him uncontestable. Number two,
I think yes.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
If you're wondering who does number two work for, it
works for Morob wonderfully.

Speaker 7 (01:39:52):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
Let's keep it going. Great questions today from at World's
Worst Hero. UFC three twenty was a bangar and three
twenty one seems like one on paper as well. How
would you rank the twenty twenty five UFC pay per
views so far?

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
I feel like they've been good but not great. There
hasn't been an exceptional one, right, what do you think
Long Island Luke? I feel like they're only just now
getting good towards the end of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
Yeah, I feel like they've done a pretty damn good
job with main events and co main events. For the
most of the year. There hasn't been like these ones
were like that's not a pay per view like sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
Last year we had all let's think about we had
a strong summer, right, so we had the Max and
Dustin worm.

Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
What was the one before that?

Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
I got to go from the beginning, So January was
Islam Moikano and then Comaane was rob okay, so that
was supposed to be Islam Arma and part it wasn't
their fault. And also you had Morob and uh Lumar
that one okay. February was DDP Strickland two and the
Comaine was Tatiana and way Lee right, So so that's so.

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
So March was uncliv Perreira one that that was not good.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
Sorry, it was not that that led to that led
to people being deflated.

Speaker 4 (01:40:59):
April I think was good. That was Volk Lopez, but
I remember that undercard being good. Yes, that was good,
and then May was JDM blall good.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:41:08):
June was Morob O'Malley.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
I think it was. That was i f W that
was in Newark. That was not a big event.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
There were two in June, so that was Tayla Harrison too, right, yes,
and then late June was.

Speaker 7 (01:41:22):
I f W.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
That was Iliot knocking out Charles, Yeah, and then you
had Max and Dustin.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
In July.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
Was Hamza.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
Yeah. So it's from the summer. It's been picking up
and we have to believe they're going to kick off
the Paramount era with a bank I would imagine, and
maybe keep it running through the White House. The only
question is how much will the White House card take
away from their momentum or will they try to some
gimmicks some legends coming back at the White House.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
We gotta kind of wait and see what I think
Rossy comes back, but did She's.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
Put another video out where she's like getting after it
with x UFC fighters and training and she's like ripped
up again, even though Dana kind of downplayed it at
the press conference of like he's like, I don't I
don't think she's coming back. She's like had children, Like
what about those CT comments that she put out there.

Speaker 3 (01:42:04):
That's kind of I mean, brother, we live in a
world where like Brot at least is getting federal law changed.
What commission is going to say no to UFC.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
I mean they stopped Frankie Edgar in Jersey to UFC.
I know, I'm just saying, shout out to the Jersey.
What else you got here? Chin? We got from at
PlayStation Chavi after watching the Usman Hughes fight, How do
you guys see a potential Iliya to Poria versus Usman
Normagametov fight at one fifty five?

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
God, that'd be a great fight. Here's Usman's fatal flaw.
He has no pop whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
Kicks though he can, he doesn't use me a.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
Little bit, a little bit, little bit. But I think
a guy like to Pooria, who keep him it was
good wrestling, good takedown defence, good jiu jitsu, he'd be
able to survive like Hughes wood, except when he lands,
it's going to be devastating.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
He's really at Usman would really have to keep that
distance and constantly switches. I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
I think it would make him too unable to make
his offense work.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
And what do you need Usman to step up become
more of a submission threat. I mean he took Hughes
his back a lot, but really wasn't able to convert
that into one where there was you know, close to
a tap or where there was extreme danger. Some of
that is Hughes' ability to get back to his feet.
He's a strong kid. Yes, I'd like to see him
be more of a finishing threat, whether that is through kicks,

(01:43:19):
whether that.

Speaker 3 (01:43:19):
Is through so I would say what's kind of interesting
to me is ground and pound is getting harder because
people are so good at standing up. But if you
can't have ground and pound, you gotta do what Morob does,
which is reintroduce the offensive cycle. You're up, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
Downs, and you use you in the thigh like a
thousand times in the standing clincher.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
That can be stalling though it's needs to the ribs.
That's what I'm like, that's that's that's that's to me.

Speaker 15 (01:43:40):
Ground.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
Yeah, let's keep it going here. We got more from
these people from at data underscore to eighty six. Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
Do you really think TKO is going to make any
discernible difference in the boxing world? At best, TKO becomes
just another promoter like top Rank or Matchroom. Crawford and
Canelos just sealed my skepticism. Data was completely unnecessary. Turkey
is still footing the bill for the big names Aliact
or No Ali Act. What exactly is TKO expected to
do different besides just being the token boxing promoter promotion

(01:44:06):
funded by Turkey. Well, the answer is if they get
the lawch it now they don't get the law changed.
Maybe he's right. If they get the law changed, they
become a they because they transform boxing, at least in theory.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
Well, the spirit of his question is like, what are
they going to be just another promoter?

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
To start, it seems like they're going to be the
new grassroots a system to produce the next fighter. So
for a while it would be more cross prospect building,
I mean prospect building for a bit. I think that
the answer that we don't have is when does that
merge with what Turkey's doing on the higher level with
Ring Magazine and riyazis if it never does in UFC,
ZUOFO boxing just stays this exciting. You know, a monthly

(01:44:42):
series that produces fighters for the next era, you know
tomorrow's pay per view stars, then it won't impact the
game as much. But dude, you see that report that
Turkey might buy Mattrium Sport from Eddie Earn, like they
announced deal this morning. Well they announced deals for boxing,
snooker and darts moving forward, but they're like, he may
buy that whole thing out. Well, it's it's trending toward
the idea that Turkey is going to control all of

(01:45:05):
boxing soon and then maybe that they combine that with
TK with zoof of Boxing where they're the ones promoting
the big fights.

Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
Everyone thinks that match Room and Top Rank are just
going to stick around, and the answer is a lot
of these promotions are going to die and or Turkey's
gonna buy there, or.

Speaker 1 (01:45:18):
They're going to merge in. So I think when that
merging happens, then we'll see what Zoofa really is in
this space, right Like, it's kind of hard to see
that right now until they kind of establish this.

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
But good question.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
Let's keep it going here with one more from the people?

Speaker 5 (01:45:33):
Was the last one?

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
That's it?

Speaker 7 (01:45:34):
All?

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
Time to pick?

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
Okay, I want to see I want to see not
the cake lady. I want to see everybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
Everybody else, but what's your name? Selene? Yes, Selene, the
cake lady from Friends may show up. We'll have to
see all. I scoured the globe yesterday for the huis
and lows to good the bed, the other thing, the
in between. In the worlds of combat sports and beyond.
These are viral videos to make Luc uncomfortable. It's called
have seen this sho shot for somebody out there. It's

(01:46:09):
four o'clock, five o'clock somewhere. Hey, it's UFC three twenty
in Las Vegas. Let's start right here. Forget about just
bleeding the crowd. It's baby on board and team mobile.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
What are we doing here, I mean, revoke this man's
license to be a father?

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
Well, you know, this is just baptizing your children into
into into competitive warfare.

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
Right and by the way, to the best that I
can tell, those aren't even headphones. He's wearing wrestling earguards.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Is that even a real baby? Or is that like
a dog? I'm seriously like, I don't know what's going
on here.

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
All right, let's keep it going here. You know, DC
and Pooton have this like prank war between them where
Poton picks them up a lot. They continued this week
at three twenty. Yeah, but my hair comes polotontam.

Speaker 7 (01:47:00):
Me.

Speaker 17 (01:47:01):
I would always go ahead on the I'm never gonna
shoot my head inside because me, Yes, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
Yeah, I like that guy. It's a good bit. DC
also gifted Morob with something that appears that he just
had sitting around in his car.

Speaker 3 (01:47:23):
There we go, Hey have half for you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
It's not how you pour it, but I have you
congratulations that congratulations did he rob the movie theater?

Speaker 7 (01:47:37):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
How did you?

Speaker 5 (01:47:38):
I know, I know, but you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:47:43):
Universal, I cannot stand when people call not American. I understand,
I understand, I understand. Who you heard him say to
DC is like I understand because I'm not American.

Speaker 10 (01:47:52):
Yes you are, you are the best part about the
end of that bit was DC started to try to
get inside.

Speaker 1 (01:47:57):
They're like, no, you don't off in the box. Shout
out to John wood on that regard, by.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
The way, underrat. I mean, I know that he's got
a big profile. We talk about him, but like the
dudes around John wood win, Yeah he's a good coach.

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
Yeah, a lot of hard fighters for that would We
talked about Polish newcomer.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
Where's my Crickets? Dickhead Yakov.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
Yach Luke yakov wicklots Uh scored his first UFC went
a little disputed there against Patchy Mix, but talk about
the reward here getting a hug from Yojana Champion. Do
you know that he used to be her sparring partner
when he was like a teenager? Yeah, and she used
to bring him into her corner.

Speaker 3 (01:48:35):
You think she ever called him? And then like right
when they were about to talk, she just hung up.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
What am I missing what she did to me? Oh? Yeah,
yeah she did. I mean that's a great victory. Though.
That's it for for the back, you know, for the okay,
thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
I don't care.

Speaker 15 (01:48:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
And meanwhile, Daniel Santos got the most important hug after
his knockout, the last fucking nerve. I just want to
point out billion of dollars can't unlame you? Is this
m m as John DuPont.

Speaker 3 (01:49:04):
It looks like I look at these guys, Yeah, look
at him. He can't even hug like a normal human being.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
That looks good? In't that true classic though?

Speaker 11 (01:49:12):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
Yeah? He does?

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
You're right, the true classic.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
All right, let's keep it going, Luke. You sent me
this coming soon to your nearest theme park.

Speaker 4 (01:49:21):
Looking for.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
They got ai. Yeah that was made by Sora. Oh
my god, that's they should bring that to d C.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
The ride I don't think the locals would care for all.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
Right, let's go to your billiard shot of the week.
I think they call this a bridge Luke.

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
Oh big mama, Oh wow, I keep that. Let me
ask you a question, would you smell?

Speaker 7 (01:49:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
Look, we say to keep your kids out of NFL stadiums.
I think you should ep your kids out a across
after this. That's a pretty violent sport, right, You got
jacked up? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:50:12):
They used to when we grew up. They used to
show highlights of people getting massive ct and they kind
of had to stop that after all the lawsuits.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
Let's go to pro lacrosse. You got to cover all
your bases here, protect yourself at all times.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
Why did you play lacrosse in high school?

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
No chance, they didn't offer that where I come from.
Oh my god, look at that. Yeah, right to the
bulls eye? Is that legal?

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
In did you play lacrosse?

Speaker 15 (01:50:35):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:50:36):
I was gonna say I played in middle school. Big
Long Island known for its lacrosse.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
So you know what was kind of funny was my
buddy went to Georgetown and I would visit him and
when I was in college, and uh, you know, most
even will even Mary like homecoming is when the football
team comes home and then you have a big but
they don't have Maybe they do now, but at the
time they didn't have a football team, or that's not
homecoming was around the lacrosse team. And they were all
these women who used to hang around the lacrosse team.

(01:51:02):
And they were called the lacrossetitutes. Did you Yes, it's
just going to end in the duke lacrosse. But they
were no, no, no, no, they were found not guilty.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
By the way.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
I mean, this is a very misogynistic frame.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
I'm just telling you my town, my Ritzy town now
is big on lacrosse. But where I come from, the
factory town, we didn't have wrestling. We didn't have lacrosse.
We have boys volleyball. We didn't have any that ships.

Speaker 3 (01:51:21):
Did you have in high school football?

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
We had football, baseball, basketball, cross country.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
Didn't have wrestling, not an expensive sport.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
I went into that ship. We like to wrestle with girls. Yeah,
all right, Hey, what a while weekend over there in Newark.
Not necessarily at Penn Station, although I'm sure it was.
We had b KFC back for a big one. Shout
out to Mike Perry by the way, stopping Jeremy Stevens
knocking him down five times. That was a pretty gnarly
win for It's just.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
A weird thing to like for that fight to be
set up because one guy fought at seventy five.

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
Well, it wasn't the only weird thing this week. Connor
McGregor had a tour to force in the in the
Microphone Games, we're.

Speaker 16 (01:51:58):
Going to see them settle the Scar and there's nothing
more satisfying than seeing Scar settled.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
I wish all my combatants well.

Speaker 16 (01:52:07):
May we torn our knuckles to dives and raise the
roof on the Potential Center this Saturday night Live on
the Zone pay per view, where we destroy all our
competition that we are facing on this night, Long Live
Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship, Long Live Dave Fellman, Long Lift

(01:52:27):
the Potential Center and long Lifting Outsorius.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
Let's come. I think I grabbed the wrong for that
mental I don't care or he was making fun of
Mike Perry.

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
So the one where he makes fun of Mike Perry,
he's like, if you don't do what you're supposed to do,
you're out, and then he goes and then on the other.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
Side, who the fuck is that guy? But then he
says something.

Speaker 3 (01:52:46):
I honestly I was laughing at he just shat on
the main event.

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
Was he feeled by energy drinks for that speech? You
know what?

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
Probably just just straight up sober enthusiasm, Luke.

Speaker 5 (01:52:55):
I think our next video is the one you're no, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
Not, but this video is good to watch Connor during
this face off here, this is insane. I just think,
Oh no, here is sorry.

Speaker 15 (01:53:04):
World title honors is what it's about.

Speaker 12 (01:53:07):
You've never been a world champion.

Speaker 5 (01:53:09):
You have a chance here.

Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
You're downplaying everything. The mockery.

Speaker 8 (01:53:14):
You haven't far here.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Why don't you come get I own.

Speaker 12 (01:53:17):
This fucking thing. What are you talking about? I'm the owner.
I booked the matches.

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
You need to climb for.

Speaker 15 (01:53:23):
A world title otherwise you're here today, gone tomorrow. A
fart in Michael Perry, a fart in the wind. That
could be fucking you. If you don't climb for the
fucking world title.

Speaker 1 (01:53:34):
It's more than any fight you're doing.

Speaker 12 (01:53:35):
You ain't fighting nobody.

Speaker 15 (01:53:36):
I don't even coming back in the White House trying
to Cramer and switch rolls.

Speaker 12 (01:53:40):
You'all fighting for that world toil. If you get shooters
this weekend, you.

Speaker 15 (01:53:45):
Like Frankie red neck mob boss is gonna make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
Dude. It's just so wacky to see him feuding with
his own fighter.

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
It's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
And here's the insane thank you long al. Look we
did have that one I forgot. Here's the face off.
What Connor's like like checking these guys like it's a
cocky fight. Look at this shoulder bumps. Look at the eyes.
He's got a foreigner.

Speaker 7 (01:54:11):
You know that.

Speaker 12 (01:54:12):
This is what it's all, my ladies and gentleman violence.
Who's the king of violence? Come on, Perry statements perhaps
a fight with McGregor on the line.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
They keep selling that, but he's got two fights with
the UFC left. And Dana was like, yeah, we're not
negotiating with Connor yet.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
I'm happy for Mike Perry, you know, but that is
that's close to the bottom of the barrel.

Speaker 18 (01:54:40):
Like Perry got the win in the fight, but he
also got the win after this away and challenger Choman,
he's delightfully corny.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
You have to give him that. Did you see by
the way that Christine Farrea, who had defended her title again,
broke that chick's nose Like I wish we could show
the highlight it was.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
I did see the after math and it's vicious.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
You're a BKFC Fighter of the week, though, However, is
Carl Roperson, who competed despite wearing a low jack under
his side.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
Understand that if convicted, he has an upcoming court case.
If convicted, he's facing ten years in prison for various
forms of quite serious and these are accusations he is innocental,
proven guilty, essay, No, but robberies that are violent. Again,
he's facing up to a decade in prison, not small

(01:55:29):
charges at all.

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
Maybe he should fight sa drink a dumas, right, Yeah,
let's go to your fails of the week. These are
pretty violent.

Speaker 7 (01:55:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
If there's a pool on a roof involved.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
Someone's he's not going to make it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
A mini scorpion there at the end. Let's go to
the golf links. They're getting that water fatty, all right,
watch jump for the gators. There you go. That's great.
Don't put your k it's on BMX bikes. It's not
nineteen seventy nine anymore. Yes, that is great.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
Orthodont is about to make a ton of money off
this moron.

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
Check Out this sign in the UK right near the crematorium.

Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
They had a Mick McDonald's to remove tasteless sign opposite
Cornwall Crematorium.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
McK crispy.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
Yes, oh I couldn't see it because of my sight.
So the so okay, so the bus stop ad says
Mick Crispy and their next to the fucking place that
they just burn up their room.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
Yeah, yeah, they had that. They had to remove that
because enough people complain. All right, let's check in on
the tour to cross in Spain. We're coming up on
the curve here in this bike race. But as we
zoom in, Luke.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
Just a big old dick that is awesome, Just some dude.

Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
With a bunch of chalk and some free time. And
they knew that the camera would be up. Oh yeah
they would.

Speaker 3 (01:57:01):
By the way, I was walking the Rest in Peace
to Barbis. I was walking to him, you know, close
to the end of his life. And there was someone
who was selling a house in my neighborhood. And I'm
not fucking kidding. I took a picture because I was like,
you couldn't go by James. His name, I'm not making
this up was Jim Crow. It said it on the
fuck you know, they planned this thing in the yard
to like realtory or what his name was, Fucking Jim Crow.

(01:57:23):
I looked it up on the list of the camp
right is it a QR code? I scanned it on
the fucking website. He goes by Jim Crow and I'm like,
James wasn't available.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
I guess not. All right, it's time for my favorite
mini segment, MMA Fighters in the Wild. Let's check out
Habib the footballer corner kick.

Speaker 3 (01:57:41):
Luke is he's got something got him on the soccer
a regular Hamas Rodriguez.

Speaker 1 (01:57:54):
There he is right there. Let's go over to the
front of the program, Raw dog royvall the hell?

Speaker 7 (01:58:06):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:58:06):
The audio blew the joke. The audio there blew the joke.

Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
What was the audio here? Was a bunch of talent
on us.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
I yeah, he was doing a bit there, but I
don't know what happened to that audio there, So shout
out to that. Sorry were ruined that joke. Let's keep
it going.

Speaker 10 (01:58:22):
Former UFC and GFL star Sage north Cut has taken
into real estate.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
Luke, would you buy a house? Remember?

Speaker 3 (01:58:30):
Not going to get his face smashed doing that. Cosmo
Olschandra completely destroyed his face.

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
I do remember that. Do you think he will outsell
raging Aya Quinta.

Speaker 3 (01:58:38):
I don't know what kind of business he does, but
I wish them both best of luck, all.

Speaker 1 (01:58:42):
Right, Luke. People always ask me what it would look
like if I had become a hibachi chef rather than
a podcaster.

Speaker 3 (01:58:57):
How did these people not get fired?

Speaker 1 (01:58:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 16 (01:58:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
Okay, it's time for your ko's of the Week, Regional
Amateur m m A. This fighter's name is Jim Kelly
Saint Pierre.

Speaker 3 (01:59:06):
Watch this finish, show that one one more time from
the top. Watch this ship, Watch this spinning back kick.

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
Did you see this yet?

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
Yes, dude, I think I sent it to you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:19):
It's possible.

Speaker 3 (01:59:20):
That is insane.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
That's a great KO. We saw an even better one
at the Jason Alden concert. Don't hit, don't hit the police.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
Don't do it. Yeah, I have recommendation for people. Don't
punch the police because they're gonna punch you back.

Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
You know who. You shouldn't mess with either, the umpire
because he strikes back. Tell the coach up right.

Speaker 3 (01:59:47):
That's the most umpire build on.

Speaker 7 (01:59:54):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
Don't take no ship spoiler earlier? Okay, Empire.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
I'll go to the first base coach, bro hell to
the nose that he treated that first base coach like
uh like go to treated that dude who just like

(02:00:21):
ripped him off and threw him away like a fucking scab. Wow,
that was amazing. I mean, what what did the guy
hit him? They called him a bitch? Did he put
his hands on Hi must have touched him. He must have,
because otherwise he just would you see him.

Speaker 1 (02:00:32):
Hit that that hook with the mask in his hand? Ship? Yeah?
Uh Luke. The people have been wondering where does Robert
Kraft go now that he's been outed at his orchids place?

Speaker 3 (02:00:42):
Where does he get jacked off?

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
I don't know. Okay, maybe it's me, maybe I'm tripping.

Speaker 8 (02:00:47):
But we We Massage.

Speaker 3 (02:00:53):
That's a Texas landmark right there, luc Can someone send
me the address of the we We Massage?

Speaker 1 (02:00:59):
You know they say sometime times a sports car people,
you know, call it sexy because of the curves. It's
almost like a woman. Check out this Ferrari, right? Do
you like that color?

Speaker 3 (02:01:09):
It's the color of your super U?

Speaker 7 (02:01:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:01:12):
Is he jacket?

Speaker 15 (02:01:13):
All?

Speaker 1 (02:01:14):
I think he likes the Ferrari? Luke?

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
All Right, maybe he's just excited about the color orange.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
You never know. All right, let's head to the old
football pitch here American football. Don't let your kids play
high school football either, Luke.

Speaker 10 (02:01:29):
Oh brother, Wow, that's helmet to helmet geez passing out
CTE like lollipops, like like RB's coupons on Halloween.

Speaker 3 (02:01:45):
They need to teach that kid who is trying to tackle.
There's a better way to go about this.

Speaker 1 (02:01:48):
Yeah, your celebration of the week comes from the University
of Hey, are you you're a Giants or Jets?

Speaker 7 (02:01:54):
Guy?

Speaker 3 (02:01:55):
Jets?

Speaker 5 (02:01:55):
Jets?

Speaker 3 (02:01:56):
Do that kid from the Giants camp? What's the last
in scataboo? Scatabo My man is going to have the
most amount of ct imaginable the way he runs.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
Go ahead, Oh, here's your college football celebration of the
week last week from the coach of the University of Minnesota.
Watch this. This is fun. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (02:02:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
I wish we could start each MK episode like that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:18):
Yeah, I love us like that though. Wow, I was
going to say I used to hate college football because
it's so bad, you know, relative to the NFL level, Like, oh,
it's not so bad relative different relative to the NFL level.
It is bad, But now I love college football because
it's so bad.

Speaker 1 (02:02:33):
It's not bad though, it's just different. It's different.

Speaker 3 (02:02:36):
It's bad relative to Again, listen to what I'm saying.
Relative to the NFL level, it is bad football. They
play out a shotgun, the formations are simpler, the players
are not as good.

Speaker 1 (02:02:45):
I get what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (02:02:47):
Relative to the NFL level, it is bad football, But
I'm trying to explain to you the fact that it's bad.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
I actually now that's why I enjoy it more now,
because it's so goof. I don't think you're going to
it's like regional. I like like regional.

Speaker 3 (02:02:59):
MMA football is not regional. Em it's relative to the UFC.
That's the closest equivalent.

Speaker 1 (02:03:04):
Yeah, it's a lot closer, but anyway, that's an argument
for another day. What check out this football hit, Luke.

Speaker 3 (02:03:16):
Did they launch that motherfucker into space and to know,
into a garbage can?

Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
Did you see the ending that?

Speaker 7 (02:03:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:03:21):
That was great? All right, we got a couple more
of your good Samaritan moment of the week. Check Out
this guy on the sidewalk just helping out power washing.
You know what I need, my buildos washed here, power
wash man, can you hold this one for me?

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
My man has look at the build on this man,
he's like, no problem with cargo, shorts, no shoes, just
getting dildo juice all over his toes.

Speaker 1 (02:03:47):
All right, Uh, Luke, I had to dig deep to
find a new one. Here, here's Selene. She's back from France.

Speaker 16 (02:03:52):
Luke.

Speaker 6 (02:03:53):
All right, Okay, oh my god, she's eating the fucking razor.
Look at this disgusting wench. Can you eat something not weird?
You absolute fucking baboom.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
Oh woah, why just eat that can? Thank you silly?
This is great. Oh she's got more child.

Speaker 3 (02:04:13):
Yeah, I just put weird shit in your mouth, you
absolute fucking mutant.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
Oh, Luca, we're gonna close with this one. Do you
know the Chinese city of Cho King.

Speaker 3 (02:04:22):
This is the one that's like the cyberpunk city.

Speaker 1 (02:04:25):
It has the largest city proper population in the world
at over thirty million, and it's known for that those
trains that cut.

Speaker 3 (02:04:30):
Through this is the cyberpunk Oh yeah, this out.

Speaker 15 (02:04:32):
I went on the train that went through residential buildings
in chong Qing and you won't believe what I saw,
But it looks cool.

Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
Super cool. You can like see people in their houses
when you drive through. Okay, you got me.

Speaker 12 (02:04:49):
That's of the week.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
I hope you saw it. Yeah, good stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:04:53):
Or I don't know if I would take that metro
line anymore, I might just walk. It's like, oh, here's
the here's the deal. The fastest way to get to
the city is to take the subway line. You're gonna
have to watch them.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
You know what. We watched the masturbators on the New
York City.

Speaker 3 (02:05:06):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (02:05:07):
Oh my gosh. Going into that Penn Station bathroom today.
You know a lot of showers going on again.

Speaker 3 (02:05:12):
Once again, I've watched grown men shave their pubic hairs
in the sink.

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
That's expend station.

Speaker 3 (02:05:18):
That's a real thing I've seen.

Speaker 1 (02:05:19):
Well that's your show for today. Thank you for watching.
Remember you can reach the program at Morningcombat at gmail
dot com. We'll be back on Friday to see your
dead wrongs and your fan submissions. You can also like
and subscribe to the show. It does go a long way.
They're on YouTube. Shout out to everybody there. Check out
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(02:05:40):
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Speaker 3 (02:05:59):
Yes, he does take good care of us.

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
Morning Combat Dot shop some evergreen items on there as well.
You want a coffee mug? All right? You want something
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Speaker 3 (02:06:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:06:09):
Right, I mean they don't have Yeah, I mean, well, no,
that's not true.

Speaker 3 (02:06:12):
I think MK fans have some ladies. I mean, geez,
look at Long Island. Look, he's got one of his life.

Speaker 1 (02:06:16):
He just never sees too. Yeah, she does, she does.
Can we interview her? Yeah? You want an interviewer. Would
you be less comfortable with your dad or your girlfriend
on the show.

Speaker 4 (02:06:27):
Oh, I'd probably be less comfortable with my dad. Why
my girlfriend knows all the jokes we make and like
she knows the auss. My dad would immediately be.

Speaker 3 (02:06:39):
BC would literally ask to look at his testicles, be like,
look look at the origin, and.

Speaker 5 (02:06:42):
I think he would contemplate what he had done with
his son at that or.

Speaker 1 (02:06:46):
His life where Yeah, yeah, that's great, all right, thank
you for watching everybody. I'll look anything to say to.

Speaker 3 (02:06:51):
The people on the way, please check out my you know,
I know the fight was very short, is eighty seconds,
but I did have a little bit of a brief
breakdown on the fight.

Speaker 1 (02:06:58):
But UFC posting the fight in full on social media, people.

Speaker 3 (02:07:01):
Were saying like, this was some kind of attack on ESPN,
And I'm like, they've done this before.

Speaker 1 (02:07:06):
In big moments. Yeah, yeah, and this was such a
short fight.

Speaker 3 (02:07:08):
It was such a short fight, why would you not
show the whole thing. I didn't quite I mean, yeah,
I'm sure ESPN's not thrilled about it because but I didn't.
I didn't see it as like a fuck you to them.
I didn't quite read it that way.

Speaker 1 (02:07:20):
And then ESPN's like, yo, let's put PFL behind the
double paper. All right, there we go for LT the
L I L. This is BC. Thank you to Kenan
and deer in the back, even Matt Snyder. We love
that guy too, all right, From our family to yours,
take care of yourself this week. This is bed morning
Combat piece. We out of here, all right.
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