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April 9, 2025 • 89 mins

Luke and BC are joined by friend of the show Jed Meshew to break down EVERYTHING about UFC 314. In the main event, Alexander Volkanovski and Diego Lopes clash with the vacant featherweight title on the line. The co-main event features Michael Chandler and Paddy Pimblett in a lightweight showdown. Can Chandler rebound from back-to-back losses and take down Paddy "The Baddy?" Plus Yair Rodríguez takes on Patrício Pitbull and much more! Join the guys as they crack open some drinks and preview this stacked card in a way only they can!

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to you by Cuervo. Welcome on into this Wednesday, April nine,
twenty twenty five. Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas and our special
guest back in the seat. Good Rock, MMA fightings, Jed
Messu the second. Jed, thank you for joining us. Do
I have to disclaim once more what we expect from
you today? I mean it wouldn't hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:19):
Me between the two of you and the perspective makes
me look like a small chot. I did give you
the option of sitting on Lucia.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I called you kid. You're more like Joe Cie.

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that that's a true fact?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
After he shot up a bunch of bud light. All right,
there we go. Hey, we're gonna be happy today. We're
going to be excited because this Saturday in Miami pay
per view UFC three fourteen, it's loaded, guys. There's bangers
on that card. There's big name action stars, there's big
name debuts. There's fights deep on the undercard that we
care about. Nobody came here to Harris complain. This is
a no judgment zone today. We're just gonna bring it

(02:00):
and have fun. All Right.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
I will say I want to be in that Miami mood,
but it's freaking cold outside here in New York City.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
It's a little chill it is.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
It feels like That's my only complaint is that I'm
seeing all the summary vibes in Miami and I want
a little taste of it.

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Speaker 2 (03:07):
I gave you a big one there, Jed, I'm sorry
You're gonna have to go deep on that.

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Speaker 2 (03:44):
Now, got a dream that we can show now, Hey, guys,
First and foremost, I want to say something.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, we know you're a fucking piece of ship.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
You think that's what we know?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
You're a shoplifting dead deep dad. You don't have to
tell us.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
Now.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I'm going to say, we have really good mma this weekend.
So let's start off with there. The quality of this card.
I don't know if it's a plus plus plus plus,
but compared to what we're used to in this ESPN
plus content farming era, this card on Saturday Luke Thomas
is nine.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Out of ten, nine out of ten, I think that's
pretty fair. Now, if you had to nitpick, which, of course,
no card is perfect. But if you had to nitpicked,
I think the one thing you could say that it's
missing is a next level box office superstar.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yes, to bring in the casual. This is not necessarily
a casual pulling fight, but it's top to bottom hardcore seven.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
You don't have a name on there, like you know,
a prime not not the current version of Connor McGregor,
but you know, the the UFC Highlight version or even
like you know, even John Jones at this point it's
still a pretty big name. You don't have that. However,
do you have quality up and down this card? Check?
Do you have important matchups for a series of some
of the better divisions in the entire sport? Check? Do

(04:58):
you have fights with rivalry, storyline stakes, all the things
that you would want? Check? And in particular in that
main event, to me, I was kind of like, well,
you know, losing to Poria was not great. I didn't
love that. But now when I look at it, you
have two things. I'm gonna say BC one and we'll
get to this later. I'm sure you have the thirty
five and overstat which of course still applies one to

(05:19):
fifty five and down right.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
In Rocky Pennington, and that's.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
The women's side is different. The women's side is different. Challenge, Oh,
I said fifty five and down. That's seventy and up,
and there had been one before him at seventy is
a tweener one, but here's the other one. I was
looking at volks resume and I was like, dude, who
has been finished twice and then won a full on
UFC title? Has that ever happened? You're saying, yeah, it's

(05:46):
never ever happened. There have been six people who have
lost two fights and then tried to get a title.
The closest was Randy katora UFC forty three, but he
had to change weight classes and it was only an
interim title. Vulk is going to attempt something in this
main event that has literally never been done in the
history of this organization, in any era, in any weight class,

(06:07):
both genders, you name, it never been done before. Holy
fucking shit.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, wow, he's fired up. We're gonna get deep into
that main event very shortly. But about the totality of
the card. For how much complaining we've done on Morning
Combat on Below the Belt with with Brendan links on
uh and Mike hac on MMA fighting, you have to
be like, super super excited. We're allowed to do that.
We're allowed to take our thing out and put it
on the table if we want, right, We'll.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Just hang Yeah, not not trying to do that with
you be some Okay, look, cards awesome, cards are really
really good. There's this you said, you know, we can
nitpick there's nothing at the top, like there's not Alex
Paheta something like that.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I think that's true. Oh they got you good on
that lower third. By the way to seven to eleven.
I live in the South. We don't have to take
that jet all right, quick?

Speaker 1 (06:58):
First, Whatever I.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Think is that I think you can nitpick that this
card is great because, as you said, BC, it's there,
we live in It's great in there. If you throw
this back to twenty eighteen, you're like, oh, this is
a good card.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
This is in no area? Is this a bad card?
The front four fights of the evening like this, ain't
you give a shit about? Nor Cornwilly opened up the
though you can't. You can't like the first four fights
are weak, but who gives a ship? Because it doesn't
matter anymore. We get such bad efforts like we just
watched the worst cards of all time last weekend the

(07:33):
week before Mexico is good?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Okay? What am I missing with my analysis?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (07:37):
I think you can nitpick that the other parts of
this card are are weaker historically not compared to correct
We're not comparing two five, seventeen, two hundred like all
these ones that were just top to bottom, like I
can't miss these fights. But ultimately this is just like
this is the best card we get these days, is
the best card of the year. And not trying to
be a negative fucking nancy here, like let's have some

(07:58):
fun because this the main card.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Sick. The middle prelim section is great in the early prelims, you.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Know, I'll just say this. Last April was UFC three hundred, right, yeah,
and okay, but that card was stacked top to bottom,
and like you know, when they stack it like that,
to me, there's too much going on. I like a
little bit of like I don't need to us Rick
Rickerson at the bottom, but then at the top you've
got you know, pound for pound talents up there.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Looks like I don't need to be tuning in at
four thirty pm Eastern Stus. Let's get into our We're
gonna hit our main event hardier. Right off the top,
the vacant featherweight title, Eliot Taporia is gone, and I
hope UFC. I hope he will be on International Fight
Week fighting Isla Mahachev for that lightweight title. Damn. I
hope that. But for now we do have the aforementioned
thirty six year old Alexander Volkanowski, loser of three of

(08:46):
his last four, stopped in his last two fights, albeit
against the number one and two pound for pound of
the world on my CBS Sports list, in Islam Mahachev
and Elia Taporia. He welcomes a red hot Diego Lopez,
Brazilian born Mexican repping five fight win streak. I do
want to bring in quickly the fourth member of our
team today, producer, director, bong enthusiast and a man who

(09:08):
is only here with us today by way of an
Australian gentleman's ball bag. It is Luke Nocido of the
main card.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Minute.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Luke, I want to hear the the odds from you
from DraftKings on this main event and anything else you
want to say to the people.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
I believe last I looked, Volk was minus one twenty
two Diego plus one h two. It started Vulk like
minus one seventy five. So money's definitely come in on
Diego as the week has gone on, but Volk has
not been a dog yet. Personally, I don't want to
take him unless he's a dog. So I'm gonna wait
it out, all.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Right, it will thank you so much, Long Island, Luke
that stat jed that we heard or that or the
line right there? What does that line tell you that
the odds makers are trying to tell us about this
main event the show? Is Volkanovsky good? Or is his
chin shot? Like that? To me and Will, I'm sure
we're gonna dive into all this. I'm really excited to
get both your takes on this because I did a

(09:57):
lot of research coming in not just for this show
but through fourteen or whatever. I don't know. I don't
know the answer to that question. If his chin is there,
I think he's gonna have a day. He is gonna
do something nobody has ever done before. Is his chin there, dude,
I don't know. It's really hard to be like, his
chin's gone. It's Illeo freaking upourrial. It's a head take

(10:18):
from five yes, short notice and Iliot de Puria like, Okay, well,
sure he got knocked out by Alex Pereira. Does that
mean his chin is shit or does it mean that
it's Alex Prera. I don't know the answer to that.
The line that's gonna induce bedding or is the are
the odds makers saying for as fun as Diego Lopez
is beating second term Ortega isn't beating Volkanovsky. He's not

(10:42):
on this level necessarily.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I think they're nervous. I think that's exactly what it is.
I mean, dude, listen, listen. This is in some ways
not complicated to understand, but at the same time very
hard to see the future. There's no real good argument
for Diego Lopez being better than Volkanovsky. It just doesn't
exist now on the ground. Obviously, in pure jiu jitsu
he probably is better or whatever, But as far as

(11:04):
mma jiu jitsu is concerned, in the way in which
vulc can manipulate that position or he's just negated completely,
doesn't seem the most relevant threat. And on the feet,
like in terms of pure talent and ability, who they fought,
who they've beaten, dude, fulk is like miles ahead of
this fucking guy. Like if this was prime Vulcan, I'd
be like, this is you know, I'm not gonna say
the ya aar fight over again, but no, it's that
something kind of like that. But dude, he's been stretched

(11:28):
twice and you could say all these he's short notice,
which you know, okay, okay, you know, I understand, and
against a pooria dominant punch or fine, But like, this
was a guy who was dropped against let's see Chad Mendez.
He was dropped against Brian.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Ortega twice by Max and the remas.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Wice by Max in the rematch. He's been dropped numerous times,
and he's all kind of rallied as a consequence for
all of Lopez's shortcomings. He's a good fighter, and to
be clear, when I say he's nothing like Vulk, I'm
saying we're comparing it to basically one of the highest
technical standards that we've seen. But he could swarm, he cans,
He has excellent finishing instincts and all he's got to
do is clip them, and you know, the whole shit

(12:07):
goes sideways, And I'm like, right, I get why the
odds are where they are. One guy is just better
but compromised, and the other guy is a fucking ninja
with the with the with the follow up, like that's
a tough matchup, Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
People hate on podcasts like this when all we do
is say, does this fight make this guy the third
greatest this of all time? But I did hear John Annick,
the Great John Ank the Voice of the Octagon. He
did an interview with R. J. Clifford where Annix said, look,
considering the age in Luke Thomas's favorite stat if Volkanovsky
comes back and wins this championship for the second time
coming off of those two defeats, when it's very easy

(12:42):
to write him off even though the odds makers have
him as a slight favorite. That Annik believes that would
make him kind of the most accomplished featherweight in UFC history.
He's fucking bananas.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
John Innick has been on a career long crusade to
forget the Josealdo exists.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
He's been doing it. We don't be smart the shit
talk to me because I don't understand it. Since like
day two, you've been like, and here's the greatest featherweight
of all time because he beat Jose Aldo nine title defenses.
Man like I don't know what the vult beat out.
Volk beat Max three times and although got stopped by

(13:19):
maxicos cool different goddamn eras nine defenses, come talk to
me when he puts up three more, it is in
like this will be no bones about it. Like if
if Volke comes and does it outside of this stat
that I just learned about being the first ever do that,
this will be the crowning achievement to one of the
ten best fighters I've ever seen, because I do believe

(13:40):
that Alexander Volkowski is one of the ten greatest fighters
of all time already. This will be that sort of
next level greatness that you see from guys like Anderson
Silva and Josey Aldo and George Saint.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Pierre and John Jones who well after their prime, they
are still able to beat good competent, like high level opposition.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
That is what this will be. He is still well
short of the title defenses set by Jose Freakinaldo, who
is the youngest champion in Zoo for history. I'm sorry
that he you know, the WEC wasn't there and so
John Jones gets to claim it. Jose Aldo puts some
respect on his name. I don't hate here, but the
fact that that you can play the m M A

(14:21):
math with those three great ones of this era, it does.
It's not nothing, It doesn't matter into this is John
speaking out of his a hole or if Vulk does
in you think you do have to focus not on
the past, even though Vulk did start his career on
a twelve fight win streak with the UFC, but you
got to focus on the fact that he can come
back from two devastating knockouts and if he wins this,
it's gonna be that's gonna be a huge feather in

(14:42):
his all time resume.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, I'm with gentleness one. Not that I love John Nix,
so I don't have any ill will, but I do
agree that the that that dominance of a weight class
is best exemplified by what jose Aldo did. Uh. But again,
I just want to say this is this is what
I love about this fight because all so you know,
Iliot Tuporia looms large over this main event because everyone
thought after he got knocked out, oh, Volk will get

(15:04):
a rematch against him, and now we're just probably not
going to get that. You might have go to fifty
five to get it. I don't think the UFC is
gonna have an appetite for just one second. But the
point I'm tranting to make is one reason why I
like this fight is because what Volc is actually up
against is yes, Diego Lopez, but he's up against historical obstacles.
He's up against this thirty five stat He's up against this,
as I mentioned, the two losses, getting stopped and winning
a title fight in your third fight, these are things

(15:25):
that just have literally never been done. And so he
can kind of reclaim a version of glory not by
avenging those things that set him down the first time,
but by climbing new mountains. And I know I'm speaking
quite metaphorically here, but I don't know it. To me,
it's quite interesting actually for those reasons like that, I
would love to see the rematch with Taporia, but this is,
to me, for all those other aforementioned reasons, almost as

(15:46):
interesting almost.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I want to want to up you there, because I've
been thinking about that a lot this week. I think
this is more interesting than the rematch with Tuporia, and
there's more mystery, more mystery.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
I think it leads to more interesting places because I
agree like if you put the Taporia rematch on top
of this, that gives this card a little bump, right,
like the Taporia star power, the rivalry that's.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Going on there. I think that adds some juice. I
would have zero qualms.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Like there, I would be here in this chair being like, yeah,
Tpori's gonna kill the old man again because he already
did it and he's getting better, and Volkanovski is coming
all the same stuff and he's there.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
But the Diego Lopez match is so much more interesting.
And if Volk wins, now I'm more interested in a
rematch with Tapoia. I would still pick Taporia, you know if,
but if Volk goes out here and says, hey, my
chin is good.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
I took some shots from a hitter, maybe not the
same caliber of hitter in Tapoia, took some shots from
this young, massive dude who throws hard hammers at me,
and I showed that I still have it. I am
suddenly far more interested in that rematch. I think this
is a better business decision from the AH can lead
to cooler fights, and this fight itself is cooler than
the extra coronation of Tapoia, which is what this would

(16:56):
be if he was still right.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
It could rejuvenate Volkanovski, a fighter that, even though he
is getting older, still demands attention, still demands critical attention.
Is one of the best of all time and still
close enough to the pound for pound even with these
two losses. Obviously, the central thing we need to learn
from this fight as if he still has it. Did
you see the shape he came in the look for
this bo Yeah, these vult training videos on countdown and
embedded like this is like do you see him talking

(17:19):
about it? Apparently he like actually took training seriously this time,
where he's like, instead of you know.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Patty pimbling it between fights, I've just been like serious
the whole time, because apparently you have to do that
if you're gonna be well.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I also said on this week he once played rugby
at two hundred and fourteen pounds that stet at all,
But uh, like would it mean less if he does
it against Lopez, who hasn't had an elite win near this.
Although I certainly respect the Ortego win and the Danny
Gay win on one hour's notice, I don't know, it's.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Not it's not. First of all, Lopez is a quality opponent.
He's not like the world's best guy, but is a
quality opponent on that level. It's not his best win,
Like the beating Max three times is going to be
better than this.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Even trying, and he made that man stop trying to believe.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
But what I do think is true is the broader
set of history that is trying to guide this moment
that he is trying to buck. That to me is
what he is fighting. He is fighting the tides of
history that is a much stronger force than any one
individual fighter. And so for that reason, man, and like
you know, again, it's if if anybody can do it, it
would be him. But this is tough. So to me,

(18:24):
I got to tell you, I think if he goes
in there and beats a very dangerous diego Lopez. Unless
Lopez goes in there and looks like ship because he's
got staff infection on fight week or something, that would
that would that would diminish it.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Don't put that ship out.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
It's like every pay per view, it's like so and
so is dying from you know, whatever the fuck they
got out. Some communicable disease.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Have last time, the hoof and mouth or something, or
no neurovirus.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
So assuming that's not in play, I just I just
want to say it one more time. What Vulk is
attempting is unique and special, and Lopez is the guy
who presents the challenge, but it's so much bigger than that.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Absolutely, let's been at to Lopez thirty years old, as
people pointed out to us, like proudly rep in Mexico
and people look at him as a Mexican national there,
and the work he does coaching in the Lobo Jim correct.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, and Brazilian war is which they've all kind of merged.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah. I don't think he's turned his back on Brazil
the same level. You have India your country of origin,
but I.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Was not born there.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
That's okay, okay, But we know that Lopez is exciting
five fight win streak, has power, is willing to engage.
But Jed the odds tell you he's a slight underdog,
almost to the point of flipping the coin. Do you
believe the escalation of victories have showed us that he
is ready for this level? And even if this thirty
six year old Vulcan is eighty percent of the old guy,

(19:42):
how are you feeling Lopez's game Max Jups matches up
with vulk, It's not going to be prime VULC, but
it still could be a very, very title contending, slash
winning version of him. There's a bunch of questions. Very simply,
he's ready for this level, like in the the holistic Ah,
he deserves be in the top five of the thing
or whatever. He's a very talented fighter's very good. If

(20:06):
Vulcan has a chin, he matches up really poor, poorly
against him. In my estimation, I think he's still the
kind of fighter who I would say has the best
chance against Vulk because he is dynamic and you just like,
aren't really gonna win decisions against Alexandervolkanovski's two cerebral the
ultimate point fighter in a lot of ways, even though
he can knock you out, he's the ultimate point.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
He's so good at making adjustments on the fly and
like Max Holloway couldn't do it in three attempts, Like
it's really really hard to win that. So you've got
to bring some sort of overpowered weapon to the table,
and Diego Lopez.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Can do that.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
But we've also seen a bunch of dudes like Yahia Rodriguez,
like Brian Ortega bring those to the table and they
might get close or get interesting. The house always wins
if Vulk can withstand it, I think, and we could
get into the nitty gritty of stuff, but like I
mostly just think Diego Lopez is I got as watching tape.
I just have you ever had this experience, We're just like, oh, yeah,

(20:58):
he's just not as good is Iliotaporia. Like I was
just watching the Taori. If I was like, he can't
do any of the things is doing to make this problem.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
You'll be like in your mind, you'd be like, all right,
let me see that might be something here, and then
you watch your like yeah, no, this.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Ain't lolienda, No, it honestly made.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
And like I have a ton of respect for Eliot Toporia,
but I was just like, oh.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
You want to bang him? Like other people in this room, I.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Super do not know you. I perceive if I banged him,
which I'm not going to, but if I did, it
would be as a heterosexuals.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Okay, there you go. All right, you had a point
you were in the middle of, like you know, I
don't like mindud, that's right.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Uh, he's just not I Tooria and watching him fight
was like, oh, all the things that was doing to
make Volkanovsky really struggle at times like maybe Diego Lopez
can do a piece of that, but it's the whole
part of it. It's having the power, having the footwork
to cut the corner, to make sure Volkanovsky is never
comfortable in there, having the ability to time his counters

(22:00):
to deploy his weapons. Diego Lopez just doesn't have those
same tools.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Changing your rhythms, Yeah, and that's what volk said. Went
went wrong in the Taporia fight was that he wasn't
varying his offense enough to Poria picked up on the
patterns found the opening gap entries. Absolutely, Diez does not
do a lot of all. Right, Well, Jed said something,
he does the same three things.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
But I will say this, he's wild a little bit. Sure,
he is somewhat of a risk taker. As I mentioned,
he's a blitzer and that element of surprise. It's not
technicality per se, but it is danger and that by
itself couldn't make up some of the difference. But to
the point that Jed raises technique versus technique, there is
a noteworthy gap here.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, he's saying that that Volkanovsky's chaining, the current status
of it will will define this fight.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I think I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
What about the other side of it. Volkanovsky can do everything,
can Lopez stop a takedown. Well, we see veteran wrestling
out of Volkanovsky to try to to try to mitigate
some of the danger on the feet or will it
not even matter? Do you think that volkanovsk can get
in those footwork patterns and just make Lopez frustrated control
of that distance? How about the other parts of Lopez's
game besides the power, how will those work against.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
This version he's been working on his wrestling. I think
it's I think I would say Lopez's wrestling is good enough,
good enough to be a part of his game that
he could leverage to some degree. I don't think he's
gonna pull guard. I don't think he's gonna go for
flying triangle. So you know, it's not exactly if it
went to the ground. It does feel like that would
probably happen more on Volkanovsky's terms, but that's a little

(23:28):
hard to say. I just feel like the thing that
the through line for me, like what makes Lopez a
threat is that we talked about the risk taking just
a second ago, but it's a little bit more than that.
He just has offense everywhere in the clinch, on the
clinch break, at kickboxing, range boxing, range in tip phone
booth on top and jiu jitsu on bottom from the back,

(23:49):
I mean, the whole nine. And it's all deadly too.
It's all designed to finish the fight there. That to
me is kind of the interesting part because you go back,
for example, you HAVEC. Three hundred a year ago this
month where he beat Sadik Yusef. They were just a
momentary lapse where they've break in the clinch bang and
he hits them with a shot and he cannot recover
from there. Like again, Volkanowski is much more skilled than

(24:12):
I think both of those guys, and I think both
of them are good fighters, but it's like a little
tiny window where he makes an error and the whole
shit goes up in flames. That's a tough guy to fighting.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Before this five fight win streak, Lopez had like lost
two of three, like he has been gaining some of that.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
He'd take it on short notice.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Sure, but we are seeing this man evolve. I mean,
this would be a pretty good story if he climbed
this ladder and did it and got to do it
against Volkovsky, There's no question they wouldn't that ease the
transition of losing a big star like to Poria. I'm
not saying Lopez has the same star trajectory, but at thirty,
we consider him young because his experience is not at
the level of Volkanovski. He's fun, he's colorful. There's a
lot to like about him as potentially as champion in

(24:50):
terms of like, you know, you're getting fun action fights.
I want to see him against everyone he hasn't fought
in this division. You're getting fun action fights.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Hey, suddenly the Noche UFC that that's got a new
main event right there. It's your new champion coming in
doing that, Like, it's not going to replace Taporia, but
Toporia may also just go get a belt anyway, so
you don't maybe not need to replace him, and it
could set up the fight. I really would love to
see the two of them fight. He could set that up,
Like I think the UFC probably wants Diego Lopez to

(25:20):
win this fight, which.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Hey, that should be a lesson to you, Laron Murphy.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Being exciting matters because you've been in the UFC a
lot longer and you are not anywhere near where Diego
Lopez is, so.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
You can be as good as you want. You should
also be cool as shit. Oh, shots fired right there.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Huh, Laura Murphy is a very very talented fighter and
that was his best performance. And we don't need to
talk about it, but coming out and be like hardcore fans,
no sick, all seven of them aren't going to pay
your bills, Homie, be fun uh luke real quickly.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Who knows what I'm talking about? Speaking of this division,
watch and there's obviously a great fight in this division
on this pap per view main card that we'll get
too shortly with the Air and Pitbull. But Aaron Pico
is now officially sign of the UFC. We don't know
if it will be most sarv loevre. That's still not
that's not happening that it was discussed, but it in

(26:11):
terms of the idea of Taporia being gone, there's still
names lingering here. If you had Pico and that's fun.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Man, that's an injection, dude, forty five fucking bangs man.
I mean again, to Poria being gone kind of sucks,
but Lopez is exciting here. He comes as a title contender.
They're gonna put pit Bull in. I don't know what
to expect from that. I got to manage expectations, but
there's a chance he can put a little bit of
life with what he's got left in his career. Pico
to me, man, this is this is the most exciting
part of his career. I was there at belt Or

(26:37):
NYC for his debut that went real fucking bad, and
then he went into a journey into the quite literal deserts. Yes,
but now he's ready to make his move out of that,
and he has become so much better. He is such
an awesome addition to this division. And you know, we
we were all like, well, if you've got Ilia and
Max and Volk at the top, no one else is
ever going to break through. But something kind of funny happened.

(26:58):
Ilia left, Max left, and we don't really know if
Bult can hold the line from those elite guys anymore.
There might be a big change of guard coming again.
We'll see on Saturday, but if it does, it feels
like a guy like Lopez, a guy like Aaron Pico,
And I'm kind of forecasting here with a little bit
of you know, we'll see what happens, but young guys
coming and building a charge up the of the contententship queue.
This is what you want out of the division. This

(27:20):
is why one seventies young guns are making that division.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
So final point on Pico. Do you think moving to
New Mexico and acquiring that horse with the Safreddi like dong.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
That that horse's dong is the size of Saturn's ring. Yeah,
I mean, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Turning point in the Pico experience.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
You could take. You could take kids at the playground and.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Terrific.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
You even seen this horse's dongh like I know reputationally horses,
this horse, this horse is the Rocco Saffreddi of horses.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
I'm not VC.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
I don't go Instagram searching on animals.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Well, let me just tell you if you're looking for
the Lexi Impaler of horses.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
To Aaron Pico in New Mexico right there? Uh, what
else we got with this matchup? What? What? What are
some X factors in this that could change it? Obviously
if Volksgen isn't there that could change it?

Speaker 3 (28:06):
What is?

Speaker 2 (28:06):
There are the things we're not thinking about it?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I was thinking about this. You know, you were saying,
who does the UFC want to win, and the answer
is probably Lopez probably, But at the same time, I
don't think this win is an It's enough to get
a big main event in Mexico.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yes, against the air pipple winner.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Maybe could be again again. We'll have to see and
we'll talk about that in a minute. But I don't
think it's gonna result. You need a this is this
is what I talked about. What was missing? You need
Like if aspinall is to become a big star in
the UFC, he needs that fight against Jones. Right, we
are missing that. Vulk doesn't have quite that star power.
He was kind of building towards that and then it
all went bad against fifty five and then against a Poia.

(28:44):
But that's the only thing that's missing to me. Is
as good as this win might be for Lopez as
you smirk and I know you've got some idea, some
joke in the chamber ready to fire, I just feel
like that part won't. It won't set him up like
all of a sudden. He's a huge star. It's gonna
take some time. If he wins.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Jed, you were Gonnath.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
If Lopez wins, are we sure ily is at lightweight
because Ili is saying I'm getting a title fight. I
know you guys are both very and you in particular
must see it. I mean when thet fighters in the
world face off. Yeahlmark Chev has been pretty clear like
I'm not doing this.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
We'll see who wins this battle.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
But like if if suddenly Diego Lopez wins, I can
understand Illa being like, what do I get from beating
Volkanovsky a second time? Because he does it all risk,
minimal upside. Even if I think the risk is like minor,
I think he's gonna win that fight. Diego Lopez wins.
Suddenly there's a legitimate question whether Taporia was ever the
best featherweight because Diego Lopez, he didn't beat Diego Lopez.
He beat the two best featherweights, and I would say

(29:40):
he was the best featherweight certainly. But like, here's a
guy who you didn't beat, who just beat Volkanovsky.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Let's say he even does it more impressively, knocks him
ot in the first round.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Also to that point you raise, you go back to
the judge of scorecards, to Poria lost the three.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Suddenly to Poria is sitting up there like, Okay, here's
somebody new fact that Max though kind which is sick,
like it's awesome. I'm not taking this away, but if
it's hey, I can either fight Diego Lopez and that
will do something for him like you do Tuporia freaking
Diego Lopez and Guadalajara. Like all right, I mean, isn't

(30:14):
the central theme of this that Tporia doesn't want to
keep trying to make that weight cut?

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yes, it's the he claims it's the weight cut, which
I'm somewhat skeptical of. But if it's true, then what,
I don't know what you're supposed to say about it.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I hope he does another like thank you card to
himself at some point, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Just I don't know why you. I mean, dude, what
what fighter's personality do you like besides.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Besides Bryce Mitchell, Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
It's like, I'm not in this because I want to like,
have you know, oh what do they what? What are
their favorite colors and movies? Like that's kind of fun,
but what are the fuss?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Dudes? We get it.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, when the door closes, who's shirtless? That's also the
only question I care about Blahovich.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I like that attitude except for the whole like weird
hanging rope thing that hangs on too, But that's.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's a little morbid, Yeah, a little morbid, but this.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Is MMA for yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Oh wow, he fights in the cage for his money.
You gotta you gotta cut some slack.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
All right? As I pour myself and maybe you guys
here on that level, a second shot of this fantastic
quaerevolanco second shot, I would, I would, speaking of being
a man, I'd like to hear some predictions here on
this main event from all four of us. I'd like
to find out who will I want to go along? Why,
let's go over to the betting man himself, the least,
the most sober and theory of us. But do you

(31:29):
really believe that? Hey, Long Island, Look, who do you
gotten this main event?

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Why?

Speaker 5 (31:33):
I'm gonna go Vulcan by decision. I'm not betting on it,
full disclosure.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
But I how are you betting on it?

Speaker 5 (31:40):
I'm taking the over two and a half in a parlay.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Okay, I buy that?

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Yeah, Like, I think it goes at least three rounds,
maybe a late finish from either guy. I don't have
full belief in Volke, but I'm riding with him. I'm
taking Vulc by decision.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I mean, what what Vulk's trying to do rarely ever happens.
Chevchenko did it in the trilogy against Grosso, but it's
women's mma. Whar It's not the same level of depth,
and Grosso like got worse Surgic and also Shift Chankles
an all time great, but so is Vulk. But this
is a is a tall hill to climb, even if
Lopez is less skilled. Dude, I've got to take Lopez

(32:15):
my stoppage hair the younger hunger dude. The thing about it,
young legs is one thing. Power is one thing. He's
got both, but he's got hunger. He's got hunger to
get above that that that line between the one percent
of UFC and everyone else, to get that real money.
Did you see embedded where they showed Volt's house on
a hill in Australia with the with the animals and
everything like that. That's the damn promised land right there.

(32:39):
Lopez is on the rise to that. That hunger is
hard to be.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Let me ask the question, please. Bernard Hopkins before he
ever won titles late into his run, was he ever
stretched like hardcore?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Like? No, he had a great chin and it was
defensively so sound.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
He got was quite plausible. Other than the age being
a limiting factor.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Well, the only thing that's still hard to comprehend is
how he was like outslicking super middleweights and light heavyweights
deep into his forties. He wasn't overpowering them and knocking out.
He was like dodging punches and using his.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Brain and usion was insane.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
He also was ahead of the game on nutrition all
of that. But yeah, he didn't get he didn't have
the devastating knockout losses.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
There's somebody you can think of who was really good,
had some bad losses, maybe even moving up in weight,
and then had to come back and win a title.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I mean George Foreman, but he also took off ten
years in between that and had thirty fights before. I mean,
that's that's a complete outlier. But like it's I mean,
Randy Coutur would reinvent himself, but when you're reinventing yourself
against Tim Silvia, yeah he gets limited skill heavyweights, you're
gonna have combined limited skill.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
He did it, but he only won an interim title
doing I'm.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
I just that fact alone. Even though Vulk is great,
even though IM sure he's gonna have the best game
plan ever, make the best adjustments here. Inevitably, he's going
to get rocked by a hook, I think, and it
could lead to his exit. So money where the mouth is,
I'm going Lopez by stoppage in the early fourth round.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah, I'm gonna take Folk. I won't be at all
surprised if I'm wrong. I spent the last like month
every time talking about this. When we were on Submission radio,
I was like, I'm pretty sure dieg Olopas is gonna
hit him and he's gonna fall over because he's old
man now and di olops is a big, big, big
strong man and he hits real hard. And then I
watched a bunch and I just watching the Tapuria fight back,

(34:15):
Volk looks so tentative from the opening bell, like just
immediately he does not want to get hit, and I
can't help but think that there is some lingering to
the previous knockout. Taking a long time off is Jenny
has been dropped multiple times, as I'm dropped him in
the first fight, even like that that is the thing
that's happened. But he's historically been very durable until this run,

(34:39):
and Diego Lopez is not the same kind of hitter
as Toapuri, he doesn't deliver in the same way.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
The same delivery system.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah, I think he is too rote. If it happens,
I think it will be in the clinch. As Luke
was pointing out, like Diego, Lopez just kind of bombs
on you when you get in tight.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Blanco Blanco, I'm going decision, all right, Luke, you're the
last one to put your money where your mind.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Give me Lopez by stopping. I think inside three, inside three.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
I hate to say that and do nothing inside.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Three to your boy. See, but is do you consider
Volca's boy you know the history of Luke Thomas's love
affairs or has he really taken all the c KB
toys and put him back in the bin now that
this uh, I don't think of Volcans like well that
this German George and Spaniard guy.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Here's what's so amazing with these losers that we're talking
to right now, the.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Kind of people that follow I get that debate. If
Ian Gary does live with his wife sex husband.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, I don't care. Well, so that's a different kind
of loser. But in this particular case, what ends up
happening is I discover someone is good earlier than the
rest of them, and they throw out a sign and
then they make fun of me on the front end,
like all this guy's really good and they're like, no,
he's not. I'm like, no, he's really fucking good, And
sure enough he ends up being really good. Then these
idiots get on board, and then their decline becomes quite obvious,

(35:51):
and I'm like, all right, well the end is near,
you know. And then they're like no, so Luke Scott,
what they'll do is a big no, keeps going, And
of course it doesn't keep going. They start fucking loo
and I'm like, I am the one who got the
bracketed at the beginning and the end of what made
them good? Correct? You idiots are the ones that were
late to both.

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way in the lightweight division, as thirty eight year old
Michael Chandler, who has It's true, has lost four of

(38:01):
his last five, but goes for broke against only elites
and typically comes that short. He's going to welcome a
Patty Pimblet, who, if he's gonna make that star turn
it is now or never. Pimblet unbeaten in the UFC
on a run, but hasn't beaten outside of an old
Tony Ferguson, outside of an old King Green. Anyone really

(38:21):
still on thirty eight year old Chandler's level. That's a
big part about why this matchup matters so much, Luke.
When you look at this matchup on paper, Chandler Pimblet,
what's the what's the sexiest element of this to you?

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Changing of the guard potentially or not Chandler who punted
two years of his career waiting for MMA's biggest fuck up.
Apparently Well, actually, now there's there's debate about that one.
I mean that I don't know if that's quite conclusive. Yeah,
not conclusive, but certainly one of them. Uh But anyway,
punts away two years of his career and it gets
to gets to UFC late thirty four years of age,

(38:56):
and was very clear now here for a long time,
here for a good time. He has made. By the way,
he'll be thirty nine at the end of this month
April twenty fourth, so he's almost at forty at one
to fifty five, and he's still trying to accomplish something
that has kind of eluded him in part by you know,
his own fault.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Is he's trying to accomplish. I think he's just trying
to make fun ass action fights into that's.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Always his modus eparandi. But I still think that like
another title fight is something he actually really is like
looking for, whereas in the case of Patty Pimblet, I'll
be honest, about Patty, Dude. I this is a guy
who I'm still not fully sold on him. His chin
is still doing one of these numbers, and someone's just
gonna fucking drill it eventually one of these days.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
He didn't get on the Patty train early. No, are
you saying Sorenbach is not coming through that curtain, sorbox.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Sornbach is not a bad fighter for a time, but
I've not been a believer in him. But the truth is,
a couple things have happened. One he's gotten a lot better. Two,
he's physically filled out at fifty five in a way
that I didn't actually expect. And three, like, you know,
the things he was good at, he's gotten actually like
really good at his back taking and then back maintenance
positions are excellent. Like he's really really fucking good at it.

(39:59):
He's good from gaul. Now he kind of gases, And
he's never fought a guy who I think can deliver
power as quickly as Chandler can, and who's this battle
tested as Chandler by no stretch of I don't think
anybody's even close. But like this generational battle, this old
line kind of hanging on waiting for that last opportunity
and this guy who I never really took all that
seriously and still have some questions about. Hence the fight

(40:21):
being interesting. They're gonna clash right at this moment. Both
of them are I think, risk takers to a degree.
Both of them are wild and somewhat undisciplined. It just
has action written.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
I can't wait card, this is the thing I need
to see the most. How much though, Jed and we'll
get into cheating Chandler and a second your favorite fighter
in the world, But how much stock are you going
to put into the pictures that we showed on Monday's
MK of Patty having like ridiculous abs, the fact that
embedded he comes out and says, look, I got twins.
Now I'm a dad. I am taking fitness and training

(40:52):
on a different level of seriousness. I used to rely
on my talent more than my hard work. Well, now
obviously you're gonna go five rounds against a wild man
like Chandler, you better up that hard work and have
that gas tank. When you combine that with the corners
that he did look to turn against King Green, for
whatever that matchup is worth. How confident are you in
the stock of Patty pimblet entering this and can we

(41:13):
believe that becoming a dad and becoming serious could elevate
his game to a new level.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Bit So I think you can, because that's being an adult.
Like we all grow up and less you're Brian Campbell,
then you don't.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
And that's okay. That's why we love you. We love
you for not growing up.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
But like you have kids, you get thirty, you oh shit,
my time is running out.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I need to do things for me. I decided to
come and be with you. Jackie. You should probably in
this world, even by accident, right, I.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Mean, he should definitely get you.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
This would be much better. Take your manhood from me,
I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
But like, yeah, he's gonna get better because that's just
being an adult.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
That's that's maturing.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
I'm much more like that means way less to me
than like what I've seen, and I have seen, like
Luke said, I was a huge Patty's pad.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
He's a hitter guy. Let me guess the experience. Yeah,
I was like, oh, he's a blaming her. No, because
around the cage with Portnoy, like she's the world champion.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
It's like you know, they were putting wigs on like
they were on that Patty train where there was any
evidence they should have been.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
But I honestly thought that he was going to be
like mollyple, like a decent enough fighter, you know, maybe
get you ranked and then just he'll be more popular
than he's talented. But one the UFC brought him along
really well.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
They gave him winnable matchups. He kept winning them. He
did mature and get better.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I think he beat Jared Gordon, that's what you're saying.
I do not think he beat Jared Gordon, but he
be technically. He can't put that back up there. I
I've never been mad at one of these cons until
that bullshit.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
That's bad who wrote that?

Speaker 5 (42:53):
I just want to say, they're not me.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Jed all right, I see how it is. You don't
have to put it up there. I don't even know
what I was saying.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
I take much more on the fact of what I've
seen that the proof is in my eyes of seeing
him every time out be better and like Luke said,
like he's just getting better at fighting.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
He does look looks real good right now, like looks
good getting off the bus.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
He I.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
You know, I'm picking him with confidence this weekend. I mean, look,
and it's also because I hate Michael Chandler and think
he sucks so well, there is a path.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I don't hate Michael Chandler, nor do I think why
do you think he sucks? It doesn't suck.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
I mean, he doesn't suck as a fighter, but he
sucks like you know that he sucks.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
He's too alpha for you.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Michael Chandler is a fighter that by all accounts I
should love because he's very silly. He cheats, and his
game is nothing but exciting, kind of stupid stuff. And
for some reason he's all like, he's all the things
that I usually love in a fighter, and for whatever
reason doesn't connect.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
I just hate him so much. We talked about this before.
There's a path to Patty Pilba to the title without
having to go through too many or maybe even a
single like super elite young guy. They're actually kind of
smart matching him against action guys on the way down.
That notwithstanding, Luke, when you talked about the two year
gap that Chandler set out waiting for Connor, is there

(44:14):
like a feeling that no one's talking about that maybe
that revived him or extended him in that. Yeah, he's
lost four or five, but it's always against super Lead
twice against OLIVERA. Like. You know, he's been in title
fights and he comes close with that recklessness and that danger.
I know lately he's not coming as close. And don't
forget the cheating Chad is a big part of it.
Should we are we sleeping on Chandler, I guess is

(44:37):
what I'm trying to say, coming into this matchup and
focusing it too much on Patty already already paving the
road that leads him to a title shot.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
I don't think anybody is sleeping on Chandler. I think
people are you know, even if they don't like Chandler,
they're still pretty respectful the fact that he is powerful,
he is athletic, and at thirty eight still pretty quick.
You're relatively speaking, he can certainly wrestle better than Patty.
Whether that will be useful for him, I don't know.
That's kind of a hard part. And he's useful as

(45:04):
an opponent for Patty right he represents certain things that
if Patty would to beat him, this would mean something
that you could be like, wow, that's actually a really
interesting win that he got so for that reason, I'm
actually like quite excited about it. But I don't think
anyone's like, I don't think there's anybody who's got, you know,
rose colored glasses on about Chandler's abilities or upsides or
for that matter, his limits. His limits are fucking well known,

(45:28):
you know. And the two years off that you mentioned,
I mean, it probably was good for him in the
sense of any nagging injuries. You know, it's not that's
two years we're not taking at least well in the gym,
who knows, but certainly in the cage, no head trauma.
You know that there's probably a rejuvenation for that. But dude,
two years is too long. A year is long enough,
a year a year alone is too.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Long, really long. At thirty six, it's so long.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
It's so fucking long. Now again against Charles Olivery, how
did he look well? He rallied late and that was
pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
But as Jed told me off camera, that was kind
of a Nate Daz saving your name, aaint Leon Edwards
rally cheating. Okay, if I just cheat the ship something,
I can look good too. He looks so bad in
that fight.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
He looked bad early. He certainly did he certainly did.
He just showed well, what can I say? How about
this spirit? He showed a little bit of competitive spirit late.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
I will never say that he's a quitter, because he'll
go out there and try try.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Also, also, I just gotta say this. In a fucking
sport where the referees like, don't you I gouge the
second eyeball out and then you gouge the second eyeball out,
don't you cut their tongue out? Why the fuck would
you not cheat? Why the fuck would you not him?
Why not cheat? So to me, it's like, I don't
think anyone is like presenting Chandler as something other than

(46:42):
what he is. But what the good side of what
he can do is still formidable enough.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
All Right, we got to consummate this matchup so it
don't run at the time long. I look, do you
have an updated draft kings uh odds? Cheat on this
one please?

Speaker 5 (46:54):
We got plus one twenty four for Chandler minus one.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Pat Okay, this will be five rounds guy and not three,
so that may change our pick here, Jed, where are
you going with this? Comin event?

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Alright, he told you I'm picking Patty. I think he
probably finishes Chandler because when Michael Chandler.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Loses, he he likes to get finished. Maybe because Patty
is as to Luke's point, Patty has become very good
at taking the back holding.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
We saw Charles have that position for a very long time.
Maybe he can't finish because Charles is Charles and Michael
Chandler didn't allow him. But do you think he's gonna win?
And I've been waiting to drop this one? This fight,
this fight, it's it is the Iliad to Puria Derby.
The winner of this fight is going to be the
guy who welcomes Ilio to Puria to lightweight.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I am. I have talked myself in Bronx not the
chap because if you're to Pouria, if Patty gets this,
when he's a top five dude, you've got the storyline.
Put him, I think, because if Patty somehow beats Ilia
ready made title challenge, you get Patty Pimble, they give
they give him another old guy. You know they would
the Iliad. The Iliad juice is there and it's a

(47:58):
no lose situation share when one has the belt, and
you know that's true.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
But the concern is if you make illea fight Charles,
Charles might fuck around and beat him because Charles is
really goddamn you don't Charles in the Pattie won't beat
him like.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Probably a gamerad. And then if he wins, this is
this is the illiot to Poria Derby. The winner should
call out. I will call out and will get him.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
That's last thing. I don't think it's necessarily fair, because
I do think Patty has improved in a legitimate way.
But if he goes in there and gets his chin
setting to the fucking into orbit, people are going to
be like, oh right, that that guy who we've been
thinking was a fraud this whole time. It finally revealed themselves.
Not saying that's fair, but if he gets beaten that way,
it's absolutely going to be the narrative post fight.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Patty did say leading into this fight that he's not
going to be like the other people who fell into
Chandler's trap, got into a crazy, bloody brawl, allowed Chandler
to cheat. He's going to carry out his game plan.
I don't know if he can do that, but I
think he'll be in shape where he's not gonna fold.
I think Chandler's age will show a little bit. I
think Patty can sub him and it will be obviously
the biggest victory Patty's career and catapulted him into true
title contention. Does Patty get it done, Luke?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I think he does. I think he does. Now. I
do have concerns about him gassing, because while he does
look big, he he gassed like a motherfucker even against
Tony fucking Ferguson. And if I'm Michael Chandler, I'll find
ways to make him work, just just make him labor.
But I don't know I've been I've been wrong about Patty.
He's definitely been much better than I thought he would be,
and so I think that that culminates in something here.

(49:25):
All Right, before we.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
Transition out come just Chandler winning a grindy twenty five minute.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Decisi, hob, no one would be happy. Before we transition
into pre meth, Mitchell, let's create our own pick six lineup,
brought to you by DraftKings four this weekend. Remember we're
talking about fantasy lineup where you're looking at stats like
control time, strikes, things like that. If you get an
early stoppage, that's a big point swing. I'm gonna take
my first pick here, even though I'm picking him to
get stopped if he doesn't. If this goes the distance,

(49:51):
who's gonna score more points in here than Alexander Volkanowski
From that, So I'm going Volkanovski, Luke, who do you got.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
I'm gonna go Lopez for pick sex. I'm gonna go Lopez,
and I'm gonna go Patty. And I think that for
the two five round fights, So that could go long.
But I think in both cases, in Patty and Lopez,
you have somebody who could potentially end at early certainly
case more so of Lopez, and I think that there's
a chance we're talking about accumulated stats. I feel like
either guy, if they end up getting from the back

(50:19):
for Patty's case or in the case of Lopez, from
the clinch, could fire out a lot of different strikes,
a lot of different labor. Let's say that could add up.
So my two pick sixes are the two ones that
are gonna pick for this Lopez, Patty Jed.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Who's going to all perform their stat predictions in your
mind game in the system here going for the two
five round fights. Look at this, guys, it's hard to
play betting games with. He'll always find a way to
get around it. Yeah, he knows the game. He's not
listening to us about him.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
I'm going with two fights we haven't talked about yet.
Give me, Yeah, you're Adriguez going to just kill Patricio Pipple.
I would like Patricio Pipple do well. It would be
much more interesting. I don't he's old than kind.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Of wa you'll get some good points. He's fighting Jeremy Kennedy. Year.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Rodriguez is just a whole different world of a beast here.
I think, yeah, rodri is gonna have a big day.
And I don't really believe this with my chest, but
I believe this spiritually. Jean Silva is fighting Bryce Mitchell,
and if you're rooting for Bryce Mitchell, we're not gonna
be friends. I think Bryce Mitchell's a really good chance
to perform well. But John Silva has been one of

(51:24):
my boys.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yeah, Jean, don't care.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Lord is awesome And like Luke, you know, sometimes I
too can be like Luke Thomas and be ahead of
the curve at how good.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
So you better get permission from his missus on how
to pass that before you come into the studio. I'm
gonna add Danny Gay to my pick six lineup there
against Sean Woodson. I wonder if he can go heavy
strikes a lot of volume there to give you the
points you're looking for. Interesting stuff right there. And of course,
if he didn't know, Pick six presented by DraftKings, DraftKings,
the crown is yours. Thank you very much. All right, gentlemen,

(51:55):
let's continue on down this card. And obviously there's a
lot of fights to talk about, a lot of people
talking about this one. The featherweight matchup Bryce Mitchell, fresh
off of the debut of his podcast in the very
controversial comments about Adolf Hitler that fed into a wild
March kickoff press conference between him and his opponent, The
Fighting Nerds GN Silva, who has won all four of
his UFC appearances, all four by stoppage, acts like an

(52:17):
absolute offensive savage and is a somewhat sizable betting favorite.
I think, long isl Look what are we getting here
for plus money on Bryce Mitchell the wrestler.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
I'll get the updated.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
It's about two plus two thirty two sixty area.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
Right, it is plus two fifteen.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
It's come down a little bit.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
Yeah, and minus two sixty five.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Luke, I could ask you what we're talking about in
this matchup, and everybody will bring up the ridiculousness in
the fact that Bryce says Silva can't be called lord
and Bryce is probably gonna walk in with the Bible.
I mean this, there's a lot of weirdness associated this matchup.
But would you not agree that, even if it's shameless
from the UFC to exploit that and for Data to
go if you didn't like his hitler comments, you can
watch them get knocked out in the cage. It's a

(52:57):
damn good matchup in terms of what Shawn s be
Nick Maynard do to put together the grappler, the experience
in Mitchell against that pure reckless power and energy of Silva.
I'm not wrong here. This is one of the fights
you kind of have to see on.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
I don't think you're wrong about the fight terms itself again,
whether or not the UFC should be in business and
whether or not they should make this fight and blah
blah blah that they did. We're just asking on fight terms,
what are we getting from this? You have grappler versus striker,
which is interesting. Jayon Silva very good fighter, but like
relative to what Bryce Mitchell can show on the ground,
I would say Silva is untested relative to that. At
the same time, if you're Bryce Mitchell, who says increasingly

(53:35):
I'm trying to be as nice as I can strange
things in addition to just nice. Yeah, in addition to
just the Hitler stuff, beyond that, beyond that, what I
would say is, you know, coming back from that Josh
Emmett nuclear Ko, where's he going to be with that? Like?
What is the story in that particular case. So like
on both sides, you have not Bryce is not untested.

(53:58):
He's quite tested, but we've got some of his upside
in some of his known limits. On the other side,
you know, with John Silva, you're going to against a
very creative striker, a guy who can find different ways
to attack you from different positions, different angles, the whole
nine yards. Then you get to a point where it's like, oh,
how are these two going to interact in this? Going

(54:19):
to the two previous fights, something of a genuine mystery,
Like I'm not exactly sure what the.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Tension play in that. And you bring up good points
about Mitchell at thirty in questioning he's lost two of
his last four, and those losses are devastating. The submission
loss to Supporia where he almost literally got beaten into retirement,
and then that massive one punch KO. How much can
you give him credit for that crone Gracie win last
time that? It's tough to tell Gracey Danny Kay. He
did score a decision over in between. But the hot money,

(54:45):
the hype is on g and Silva twenty eight years old,
who's actually running a twelve fight winning streak overall four
to oh in the UFC. Is Silva worthy of the
odds he's getting the hype he's getting. We've seen many
a guy come in and do explosive knockouts, but when
they st up to that level of the veteran gatekeeper level,
they get found out. Are you putting stock on gn
Lord silver here? In terms of where he's headed? BC,

(55:08):
I need you to pour me a shot because I'm
about to say something somewhat kind about Bryce Mitchell and.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
Here let's go, Uh, the odds aren't deserve it. Bryce
Mitchell has a very clear path to win, like we
have seen. John Silva, to Luke's point, is a little untested,
but like he's we've seen a good amount of like
certainly in his previous to UFC run, he does not
have the best offensive wrestling. And I don't really care
how great your bottom game jiu jitsu is. Bryce Mitchell,

(55:37):
whatever he thinks in that head of his, it's a
very good grappler, a very very good grappler. I think
that Jean Silva my my great hope, as Jean Silva
is my you know, draft picks pick six guy, Yeah,
and your lord, my Lord and savior, I.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Hope he saves us.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
My hope is that he knew what he was getting into,
because this the fight he wanted. It is the fight
he called for immediately. And I hope that he understands
and he is crafting his career appropriately because I look
at this fight and see, there's a very good chance
that Bryce freaking Mitchell gets a hot live.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Mic in front of his ass on Saturday and whoabody,
who the hell knows?

Speaker 1 (56:20):
They know?

Speaker 2 (56:21):
They didn't give who did they not give an interview
to recently recently, oh torres Finnie in the cage afterwards
there like yeah, we're cutting commercial, no, But Torres Finnie
made the great cardinal sin of being boring yes, he
free speed Mitchell, but you know UFC rules, we can
say what we want there. Looking outside of the saying
what we want, I gotta I almost ask you the
same question, are you a believer in Silva? I mean,

(56:42):
the fighting nerds are so on fire that it's they're
so aggressive. They bring joy to the octagon. He's bringing
the earth globe to the press conference to make fun
of Bryce. He's in Bryce's head. But what happens when
this fight goes to the ground, Dude.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
I'm not entirely sure. I really don't know. I mean,
I'm just trying, not trying to feign ignorance. I really
don't know. On the feet, I'm thinking it's much of
a mystery with all of those guys with hoofy, with projests,
with all of them, they're they're creative, they're dangerous, they're
they're clever, they're interesting, they're new on the ground. I mean,
even Iliota Poria had to kind of play it safe
off of a takedown that he suffered against Bryce, and
you know he had to kind of wait and then

(57:16):
on the second attempts he had to show great down
blocking the old Like I don't know if Silva's got
that in him. To be quite honest, I don't know.
I don't know. Maybe he won't have to, maybe he'll
land something before it's even relevant. But I trust the grappling,
even when it didn't go perfect for Iliota Poria. Silva
is a completely different ballgame. It's a totally different guy,
totally different style, totally different known weaknesses. This is why

(57:39):
they make the fight, this is why the fight is interesting.
On those fight.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Turns, Mitchell vulnerable chin wise, I mean, if.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
You get cracked the way he's been cracked, I.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Mean, Chrome's not gonna crack and Crohn's disease. Well, but
now Chrome, Gracie, you know what I mean, he's a problem.
Luke's right, you get cracked like that. Sure. Also, I
don't know every human being alive can get knocked out
by Josh fucking and Eliot Tapoorria. That's doesn't really tell
me about his ship Long Island. Look, you are a
betting expert. We already know you're gonna take the plus
money on Bryce because that's how you're built. But what

(58:07):
I really want to know is how confident are you are?
You literally willing to bet your house and your future
as a bad boyfriend. As Luke would say, no.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
Of course not. I'm just taking the value here, dude,
plus seventy five. He's gonna take John down. John was
taken down by Charles Jordain three times, Charles Jordain fifteen
UFC fights, only taking down two different opponents. I mean,
not really a great wrestler there. I feel like Bryce
is gonna pretty handedly take.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Wow, pretty handedly win and take him down and all that,
and so excited. What will be the subject lou Thomas
of Bryce's post fight interview if he does win, O, god,
let me take let me take a little blanc out
of that volume.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Not just not just that, but his post fight comments,
like we backstage much.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
Worse because he's usually fairly tame. I think the last
time he's like gave money to charity or something. If
some memory serves, like the earthquakes or the fires, maybe
in La like he'll probably be fairly tame.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
With the live mic book, We're going to be on
a journey at that fight. Mitchell, at that press conference
where he did have a chance to clear the air,
said the really best like they hated Jesus too. He
kind of went down that road. It's like not not
comparable on the since there not? I mean, come on,
like not all right, sorry about that? That's that's uh
g and Silva by knockout s silver By?

Speaker 4 (59:26):
Are you choosing that because he has put the demons
in Bryce's head or.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
You know, also rocks JC too, so he you know,
but he'll be willing to fight.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Like he's got that Lord tattoo.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah, he'll be willing to fight like like the demon there.
I'm not I'm not being one of these people that
you know, Rice can say whatever he wants at the
end of the day. I'm not subscribing to his podcast
or his point of view. I'm not even cheering for
him to meet violence for all the shit he said,
it's it's deplorable. I just think Silva's coming on. These
fighting nerds are fun as hell.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Man.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
This is his moment. This is moment's kind of become
a star.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Bryce Mitchell is still quite young. How old is by?
I mean, it's not like he's washed. He had a
terrible knockout loss against but he's not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Warm City miles on him though. Even though he's a
country boy, he's been around the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
He doesn't wear seatbelts. So he's got the tuck and
roll miles.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Yeah, city hills.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
When a power drill can't take your nuts off you,
what is a car crash going to do to you?

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Really, Loube, I don't know how to answer that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
These are the things. He's a minimalist. He lives in
that trailer and for morning coffee he just takes a
scoop of coffee grounds and just choose on it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
You know what. The guys in the Marine Corps did
that too. Yeah, it's not not a great way to
enjoy a couple of coffee. We would dip it. We
would put it in our gums and then just like
dip it like tobacco.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
But I guess you gotta do what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
And the MRI it's like, am I going to sit
here on a cold ass morning and boil fucking water? No,
I'm gonna take this folders, I'm gonna stuff it in
my gun.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
You know how many of Luke's marine buddies, Well, not
only have paid for sex I think I was about saying,
but have married active strippers. Not one, not two, yeah,
not three.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
It's been several active at the time when they married him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Yeah, Hey, whatever makes you happy and nice anybody. I'm
not going to be moral police here, but I'm gonna
make her retire from that job, Okay, not not to
necessarily be in the kitchen. Just like we gotta we
gotta turn the corner. Okay, we gotta turn the corner. Okay,
we got to go to a new new direction.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
If you want to turn the corner, turn the corner
on that person, not like turn the corner on their stripping.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Okay, Hey, we should turn the center on the career work. Okay, Well,
let's let's end that conversation and transition to this one. Hey, guys,
there's a featherweight about that you just can't miss on
this UFC three fourteen main card and this breakdown off. Yeah,
He're Rodriguez versus Patricio Pitfull is presented by Total Wireless. Yes,
let's do it right here. Yeah, you're Rodriguez is riding
a two fight losing streak, although he's still in general

(01:01:38):
considered one of the better featherweights in this world. He'll
be taking on a thirty seven year old Patricio Pitbull Friari,
the all time great belatour fighter. In fact, the greatest
fighter in belitour MMA history, the multi divisional champion. Damn.
He almost tried to pull off a three divisional champion
run there but lost to Sergio Pettis. We know this
is not going to be the prime pit Bull fellas,

(01:02:01):
but you know that he's been waiting his entire career
dealing with the bedazzling blindness of Eric Alberressin's gene collection.
And really, you know that he's going to bring that
one punch power. He's gonna go for broke, he fights savage.
I mean, we love everything that Pipule brings. I'm glad
in his career he's gonna get this close up. But
is it too late? Jed and As Yeah, ear Rodriguez

(01:02:22):
the wrong opponent or f ubc. Either way, we're getting
fireworks on Saturday, both right, Like I'm we're gonna it's
gonna be fun. Piple is fun, Yeah, Hera is fun.
It is too late for him. He's pushing forty in
a way class where you can't push thirty five and
be good. Yeah, yere is a I think a really
bad matchup for him. Just stylistically. I'm mostly offended that

(01:02:45):
this isn't the Jose Aldo matchup that we should have,
like this should fire. Huh freaking Jose Aldo, whether it's
one thirty five, have to be for Catchwait, however you
do it? Because Piple has said he'll fight anywhere from
featherweight to welterweight in the US. He didn't say anything
without bantam.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
Eh, whatever, we'll make it work, like that's what should
have happened, and said Jose's fighting even as a hobby
or whatever. But like, this is still going to be fun,
and so I can't be that upset because it's going
to be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
I think the end of that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
Fun will be yeah, you Rodriguez totally whipping that ass,
But like they'll still be pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Not every bellator great that's come to the UFC has
instant success. Will Brooks is a great example, Lombard. But
Eddie Alvarez and the great uh what's his name, sorry,
the great Michael Chandler, Eddie Alvarez and the great cheater
Michael Chandler have had incredible success transitioning. This is a
little bit later in years. How confident are you that

(01:03:35):
Pipple can maybe not have you know, a four fight
win streak, maybe not become champion, but might be able
to get himself into a title fight. He'd have to
win this matchup most likely. But where are you on
what's left in that gas tank?

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
I mean, his last win was somewhat redemptive. That effort
at thirty five was a big waste. I don't, I
just don't. I don't even know what.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
We get stopped in Japan, then he lost to Pettis
by decision. The other way he lost a Pettist. Then
he went to and then he stopped Jeremy Kennedy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Yes, that was a lightweight fight or like one fifty
five or something whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
So he looked good at that one. He looked much better.
I thought he was gonna get waxed in that one.
I was like, oh, he's completely done. But then he
looked pretty good, so I was like, Okay, he's not.
So maybe he just had a bit of a rough
run there and the weight class change and everything wasn't
great and whatever. Obviously, dynamite power puncher, you know, he's
got a more convention He's got a well rounded but
more conventional game than Yi Rodriguez. So it's really going
to be a function of, like, to what extent he

(01:04:27):
can close the distance and put the fight on his range.
But you know, yeah, hear's got all kinds of tricks
and explosivity and like just fine stuff. And it's like,
I don't know exactly what the state of pit Bull's
reflexes are. He has good defense traditionally, but you know
you're gonna get hit with wild ass shit going in
against that unless you can define the terms of the
exchange like vault where you're fainting the whole time and

(01:04:49):
you're in your changing stances and all this kind of stuff.
I don't know if he's that kind of a guy.
I don't know if he's got that kind of an
effort to put into it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
What do you think he's gonna go for it? Though?
Who Pitbull? You're gonna make the most of this opportunity
and come out gun blazing. I mean it's kind of
what he does anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
No, you think it'll be No, I mean he has
enough power, like we saw him sleep Michael Chandler, Like
he's got enough power to do that. I just don't.
I mean, do people come out guns blazing against the
ear and do well, I'm suck.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Not historic Max did in Round one that was a war.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah, but Max has like a legendary chin and isn't
wasn't thirty seven in that bout? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
So well, I'm just wondering if we are not talking
enough about the fact that Yahye has lost two in
a row. One was a stoppage on strikes to Volkanovski
for the title. The second it was against a second
half of his career, Brian Ortego. Where were there almost
donk elements for yeah year in that fight or am
I making things.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Up donk elements against Brian or.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Yeah making mistakes being in the wrong. I mean what
I'm I guess what I'm trying to spell out here.
For his elite as Yaya has been at certain points
of his career, in particularly that that build up to
when he won the interim title and when he finally
fought Volk, he can get lured into crazy ass matchups.
I'm saying, if Pippule decides to come out, make the
most of his opportunity, make this the fight of the
night that we expect it has the opportunity to be.

(01:06:08):
Maybe this is the right opponent ultimately, because Pipple's willing
to get in there and take the damage and deliver it,
and maybe he can. Maybe a ra is the right
foil for that. I would suggest that that would be
terrible for Pippule because, like people who know me outside
of this, I don't have a lot of good things
to say about Brian Orteg as a fighter. He confounds me.

(01:06:28):
He's one of my favorites. Okay, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Understand him because I don't think he's good, but he's
obviously very good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
The thing that he is very good at is taking
a beating like he cannot be killed. And so if
if the calculus is I'm gonna come and just bash heads,
that's a really bad math problem against Brian Ortega. Pipple's
is not the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Like if Pipple's like I'm gonna throw caution to the wind,
I'll be like, sweet, you're gonna get knocked out here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
I don't mean fight like an asshole, but I mean
aim to land the knockout punch in the opening round.
I mean, you know, really be aggressive. It wouldn't be
legitimately cool.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
Yeah, Year's pretty good chin like the dudes he's lost
to Volkanovsky, all time great, Max Holloway, all time great.
With an impervious chin or UNDERTAKEO. You can't hurt him
like these are just I don't think Pitpole's there anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I hope I am wrong, because it would be so
much cooler if Pipple won this fight and we could
do Pitbull versus Diego Lopez at Guadalajara like that would
be sick. The other losses for h yeah year by
the way, was that decision lost to Max that was
very competitive, and then he was stopped by Frankie Edgar
back in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
He was he was unprepared for that moment.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Were his other UFC defeats. Is what I'm trying to
stay there so early thirty two years old, Like I
guess what I'm trying to say is not enough people
are mentioning that Yeayer is coming on a two fight
losing streak, both by stopping.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
And by the way, he only fought once in twenty
twenty three and once in twenty twenty four, and here
he is one time so far anyway, one time in
twenty twenty five. Like that's relative level of inactivity that
doesn't suit his interest all that well. Pitbull, you know,
I think is going to be highly motivated. Obviously, this
is an experienced guy, if ever there was one UFC debut.
But it's just a question of like, can he get
close enough to let what he does well. I mean

(01:08:06):
he's got a heighth disadvantage and a reach disadvantage. You
know that's he can wrestle. He probably does have better
pure jiu jitsu than Yeah, but you know he needs
to get into the right kind of real estate to
make that happen. And yeah, here's pretty tough to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Again saying don't count out Pipple, I'm saying the biggest
moment of his career in a lot of ways, even
if it's coming after his prime, this is his this
is his showcase opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
I just wish he would have thought someone who would
have accommodated the distance a little bit more like an Aldo. Sure,
I think that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Would have been cool. No, see, what do we have
for odds on this? Fantastic?

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
I know it would been great.

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
Got minus one ninety two for yeah, year plus one
sixty for.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
There's a lot of respect to these odds on all
these fights are like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Great is I mean, shout out to them. This is
car I'm leaning in Pipple here, I'm leaning Pipple. I
think that he's going to give himself a shot to
be in a title fight, and I think UFC would
be smart to capitalize. I hope you're right. It would
be so much cooler.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
I'm gonna go yeah, Air, but I hope you're right
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Yeah, it'd be a lot cooler if you did. Everyone
is rooting for Pimpole to get it done this week. Look,
have you been nursing that? Yeah? I haven't that drink
they're coming through. Yeah, that's what I think, Hick Margheriti,
you got going on there to close out here the
pay per view main card. No one's talking about this matchup,
but it's interesting. Nikita Kreelov hasn't fought in two years,
even though he's writing what looks to be a pretty

(01:09:21):
good on paper three fight win streak. Dommic Rays at
thirty five, has won his last two, both by stoppage.
I get also a win streak two is a streak,
two is a streak. The level of opponents at the
times right when it's Anthony Smith, last time, Dustin Jacoby
before that can be argued with do I think at
this point, you know, in terms of just pure stock,

(01:09:42):
is Creeloft the better fighter. Sure, but as we mentioned,
the thirty three year old Kreeloff has not been around
for a while. Is there a dom Reyis renaissance that's
going on and we just have not fully woke up
to it? Because if he wins this, like, we're gonna
be talking about him in this shallow ass division in
terms of like is he kind of back? I am
I putting the cart wave.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
I don't think you're I don't I don't do. Two
of five is like fly weight. It's like, did you
win at least disrespectful?

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Yeah? That is respectful? Oh is it? Is it anyway
to flyway?

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Yeah? Way?

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Flyweight?

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
It's a good division, okay, But flyweight is also it's
not hard to get a title shot, relatively speaking, relative
to even one seventy. It's not hard to get a
title shot because they're just looking for people to fucking
throw it to the front of the line. Two of
five is like that. Two of five is like, uh,
can you pass a reading exam? And uh, you know
if you paid your taxes on time? All right, there
you go.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
I don't think the latter is necessary.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Fire them up, fire them up, so like, I don't
think you're ever that far, and it's like, I don't
know if there's like giant momentum for either guy, But
I don't think you're that I really a good A
good win on a card like this against either of
these opponents can do a world of good for your
chances to the title.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Jed kree Love twenty twenty two. So he had he
had lost three of four, he was on a bad stretch,
But in twenty twenty two he stops old ass Alexander Guvsison,
gets a decision over No Time Volcano's Damir, and then
submits Ryan Span and then disappears for two years. Where
is this guy at at thirty three? How good is
Kreelov right now? Dude?

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
You could have asked me that at any point in
time during his career, and I could have never given
you an answer. When he came in as a heavyweight,
it was the only time I'd been like, he's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
He is bad.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Ok.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
But that's the thing I would have been wrong, because
he's not bad. He is like a good competent light heavyweight.
But he has been so mercurial, like sometimes his performances
are like, oh, this dude is exciting and fun and
he's got limitations, he's got problems, but like everyone does
it two o five, who gives a shit. He's a
fun dude, and then he goes away for two years
on a good It's really hard to say coming off

(01:11:42):
beating Ryan Span qualifies a good win streak, but that's that's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
The same got to stop by Ryan Span at the
end of his forefight, losing Spook.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
We're not here to talk about bad things for dom
Reys because dom Reyes is back and this will be
the weekend where we all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Get to say it and it'll be very fun for us.
So I don't know what to make of Krilla, know
what to make of this layoff. I am deeply interested
in this fight. Like you said, what fight? Did you
say was the comin event? Is your most anticipating Mine
is the Comaine.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
I don't know what Luke's would be the main main Okay,
both of those are good choices.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
This is my most anticipated because I don't know what
the hell is gonna happen, and I am deeply interested
in It's the silliest fight of the whole event, and
I love the silly fight.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
When the wheels fell off for dom Reis in that
four fight losing skid did start with the John Jones
fight that you thought he won, and a lot of
people thought he won, but none of us could predict it.
After Jones vacated the title and we were ready, I
was ready to give the crown to Reyes, that he
would get stopped by Yan in the vacant title fight
and then get stopped two times more after that. Maybe
some of that was mental or his game not evolving.

(01:12:45):
I don't think it was fully Chin related. I mean,
he did take some time off in between that. Is
he like back back back? Is it possible to be
back back back? Or is eighty percent of him in
this division? Like we're talking about an interesting story.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
I don't know if I think he's back to the
guy who gave Jones everything he could handle. I don't
know if I can believe that was that twenty That
was twenty twenty, right, twenty twenty maybe just pandemic. Yeah,
So like I don't know if we're gonna get back
to that. But can he be better than the guy
who was getting iced by Yeerie and then iced by
Yan and then you know, I'll just a constant series

(01:13:19):
of like really terrible knockouts. It appears that he can
be better than that. But I'm you know, even if
he beats Kriloff, that would this would be the first
win since like, you know, this win Street keep put
together that I would be like, okay, all right, he
has really fixed a lot of things that have been
a problem for him. But you know, you get iced
that many times, and it's just going to be a

(01:13:40):
lot easier to get iced the subsequent time. Krill Off
can be a bit of a fuck up, but he
also has got a little bit of surprising offense at times,
you know, by the way, surprisingly good guard too, Like
he can play with that. That's the thing he needs
to do. So this this is an interesting fight at
light heavyweight. For light heavyweight, it's just you know, do
you see a guy in either case that's going to
give on? Calai have a tough time.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
I don't look no, see it real quick? Where are
you leaning as it? From a betting standpoint on this,
Given everything we just said.

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
Betting standpoint, I took the over one and a half
in a parlay, little risky. From just picking standpoint, I'm
going Krylov, But I hope Jed is right. I hope
Reyes wins and we finally go Don Reyes is back. Personally,
I can't trust him going into this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
What are the odds on Reys right now? I mean,
you could just keep that website. I don't think I
helped the show one ninety when I bet him.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
He is, see they have the fights out.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
It'll just move on. Thank you very much, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
It was great.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
I got it right here.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
Okay minus one seventy five K plus one forty.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Five that seems right. But I think it wouldn't be
bad to put a little money on Reys and ride
this ride, this streak, ride this momentum. He made us
feel good again as fans. He's gonna get it done.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
Here's the thing about Dom Rays. There are two important
things about this. One, he's streaking. He's got the confidence back.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Baby. Like you lose four in a row, you start
doubting yourself, you think, oh, maybe I can't do this streaking. Two,
I think there's a noticeable like if you just look
at his resume and you were like, is it just
a chin? Honestly, yeah, I kind of think it's just
a chin.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
Because John Jones easily his best performance, just regardless of
the fact they lost it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Like John Jones is not known as a dude who's
a one hitter quitter. He doesn't bring that kind of offense. Sure,
Jan Belhovich, I think his power is a little overstated,
but he certainly does have one punch power. Ryan Span
basically the only thing he has is a guillotine choke
and one punch power. And Yuri Prahashka, we kind of
know that he can really lay the wood into you there.

(01:15:30):
Like Prilov's not a dude who has that sort of
violent offense.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Like his offense kicking, he can't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
I guess the kicking, like it's possible that gets there,
but like he's mostly he'll he'll be attrided with his
damage or he's got like a sneaky good submission game.
And that really hasn't been the foidbale for dom Rees.
I don't think dom Rees is back, Like we're not
getting dom Reyes who beat John Jones or should have
beat John Jones. But I do think he can and
will win this fight, and we should all be rooting

(01:15:58):
for him because he was good guy. He was this
close to being the greatest what if in the history
of this sport, Like here's the guy who should forever
be known as the guy who beat John Jones and
he got fucked by the jests. Well, Hoovich put that
footprint on the side of his bookcage, and that was
that was the beginning. You know, remember that mark that
when I kicked him and a cut Oh yeah, yeah, nasty.

(01:16:18):
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beautifully for us there, although we were on the truth. Okay,
let's keep it going, guys. The preliminary featured fight. I'll
go to Jet first here. I don't hate this all
action already, all the time. Danny Gay will welcome a
featherweight opponent in Sean Woodson, who, yeah, used to be
a heavyweight.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Who looks like two featherweights stacked on top of each other.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
It's all true. He's thirteen one and one in his career.
He hasn't lost in seven UFC fights. No one ever
talks about this guy as a contender. Yet he's fun.
He's a difficult matchup for everybody. How do you like
this matchup in terms of like the size difference, the
skill difference, everything.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
I think this is really good matchmaking because this is
the fight where we start talking about Sean Woodson as
a contender.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
I love Danny Gay. I think Danny Gay is exactly
the term gatekeeper has looked as like a pejorative, but
it's not like that's a noble profession. You guard the gates.
That's what Danny Gay does.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
He guards the gates to the top ten at this
weight class. I think Sean Woodson he's gonna be comically larger,
Like I can't wait for the first like the face offs,
after the ceremonials, Like he is going to be cartoonishly larger.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Then Danny Gay. Danny Gay is a very talented fighter,
incredibly durable, And so we're gonna get fifteen minutes of
Sean Woodson kind of showcasing the best of his abilities.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
I think that those will be good, certainly good enough
to get the W and we can start that conversation
BC of Hey dark horse, you know in the way
class like, guy's got a lot of physical attributes. It
tough out, it hadn't been been in a long time,
tough out, Like, how do you approach him?

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Guy that big? Like, I think this is the coming
out party for Sean woods Look, the thirty three year
old Leguay has lost three of his last four. There
were certain circumstances, including fighting Diego Lopez on about an
hour notice off.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Of his couch.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
This is more of an opportunity for Woodson to get ahead.
But you can't count out Egan.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
No, you can't count out Egan Eric Nixon trance, So
you know they're gonna have a good game plan. I
suspect that height differential is going to be interesting because,
on the one hand, Woodson's knees might come into play.
And if you're Ega, I think body shots, body shots
are gonna be real, real big to see what happens there.
Egay has proven to be better so far than Shawn Woodson,
but he's also had better opportunity. Well, now Woodson is
getting opportunities. Let's see what two featherweights on top of

(01:21:04):
each other in a trench coat trying to get into
an R rated movie in nineteen eighty six can do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
That was a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
That was a good one. All right, we don't talk
no hip hop warning. We don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
We don't get it. You don't get it after the
fact either. Oh, let's go to the women's straweight division.
We never go to the women's straweight division because it
used to be loaded top ten all killers. Now it's
a lot of filler. But this matchup might produce the
next title challenger for Joangwaili if she stays in the division.
When we're talking about Yon, Shawnan winner of three of
her last four, against a streaking thirty six year old
Vienna Jenji Roba, who has won four in a row.

(01:21:35):
We don't have to go along on this or the matchup,
but you might be seeing the winner get a title shot.
Who's going to be the winner?

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Luke I susp Jan shaw NaN's gotten a lot better.
She was already good on the feet, but her game
ground game has gotten a lot better. She's thirty five.
I think Geni Roba is much better on the ground.
I don't think that's really the issue. The issue is
can she make that work? I think she can, but
it's a very What are the odds on that one?

(01:22:03):
Let me see here, favorite Oh I got here. Our
friends at DraftKings have Jenji Roba minus one forty eight,
Yansha non plus w twenty. I mean these are all
one or plus or minus. There's a damn near pickums
in every case. I do think I kind of understand
the odds. I think Geniu Roba has just a little
bit of an edge in the ground and that should
be enough. But it's a good, competitive, tough fight.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
I love John's only lost in the last four was
to the champion Whalley, but she gave her a good
fight at UFC three hundred, So I'm into this matchup.
I know most people aren't. It looks to me like
you aren't.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
It's a really good fight. I wish it was five rounds.
I think that that would be a little more instructive.
Three rounds I think give you on a much better chance.
She is coming along in the wrestling. Her defensive grappling
against Wylie. She gave up the takedowns, but she didn't
get finished, so you know, credit to her there. If
she had a little more danger on the feet, I
would pick her.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
I know she killed Jessica and Droves.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
It's the only person she's ever done that too, and
so I just don't have confidence that she can hurt Vienna.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
I think Vienna it looks you know point.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
I think Verna is also have been getting better, right
like he's you know, he said that uh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Jan has been improving. I think Verna has been improving.
I think she gets over the hump.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
She gets a title fight, whether it's against Wiley or
whether it's an interim title fight, because Wiley's moving up.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
I guess we'll come to find but I think I
like Verna can look at her opponent and check. Sorry,
she could look for teven Farmer.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Gets one for that, all right, he gets one for
the eyeballs show.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Sorry, we're deep into the show. No one's watching anyway.
Let's hit this lightweight matchup that is like a perfect
crossroads of young versus old and Jim Miller and Chase Hooper. Look,
Chase Hooper's fun of shit, and he's getting better his
co his stand up used to be comical, but he's
an action guy. He gets in crazy twisters and mixes
around and changes positions. And Jim Miller is freaking Jim Miller.

(01:23:43):
I know we love this fight. Who's gonna win it?
That's the real question here.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Probably Jim Miller.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Wow, make a wager with our friends.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
Oh Jesus, no, I guess I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
It is a big line.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Yeah, they've got Hooper at minus eight fifty. What am
I missing about this?

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Well, Jim has one everything. I think this line is
way too big. I mean it is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
What is the argument for why Miller is such an underdog?

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
Chase Hooper just beat another old man and now he
gets another proxy for his dad that he gets to
beat on Miller better. Jim Miller is much better than
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
This line is very very I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
I guess I'm wrong. Hooper deserves to be the favorite,
but I feel like Miller could make this much.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
More minus eight hundred favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Yeah, that's crazy, huge number.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
I normally I love that fight in so many ways.
I normally wouldn't ask you guys about Sidricus Dumas against
uh alf Rand impersonator mihal Ola shakescheck, but Shakeshack is
now with the fighting nerds. I think is true. I
don't know, or maybe for this camp or did I
misread the VI.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
I'm not sure. I did see something about that, but
I didn't know if that was a bit all right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Well, the thirty year old Poland brawler has lost four
of his last five, but he comes to fight every
time it makes wars, so I'll be watching.

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
He comes throes the kitchen sink like he's an action dude,
So you're always fun. Juma's I don't know if he's
good even so, like I'm gonna guess we'll look stage
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
A really fun our early prelim featured fight. I'm not
going to miss this featherweight Darren Elkins with the worst
tattoos of all time, but willing to just bleed for
anyone anywhere. Juicy j is his opponent, Julian Erosa at featherweight.
Neither one's going anywhere but entertainment. That's where they're going.
Luke this Saturday, are you in?

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Will you versus Eurosa? Are you know? That is just
violence car crash written all over it, getting you ready
for the pre lim the main well, the main prelims,
whatever you want to call them. That's all that that is.
It's an interesting fight for that reason. Should be fun,
enjoy it. There's not much more to it than that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Zumadargi.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
Another big line on that one too, that the old
man getting getting big plus money there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Yeah, dude, they got Darren Elkins our friends of DraftKings
plus two eighty five on Elkins Eurosa minus three sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Wowzumidarji is bringing a three fight losing skit against Metropos,
So I don't think you care a flyway. There's two
other fights that start, but I kind of interested, but
I don't. We shouldn't talk about it. If they don't care, No,
they don't care. I would like to thank so many
people for this great episode today.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Oh one more thing, Long Island. Luke, is there any
betting that you recommend that we didn't really touch on.

Speaker 5 (01:26:10):
Well, you guys just skipped over that Mitchroposo assume a
darl I do think Mitch Roposa is a live dog.
I like jan Jo Nan is a live dog, like
you were saying, Luke, a lot of close odds on
this card. I think it's gonna be one of those
cards people make a lot of money on.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
So good luck to everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
All right, Luke, will you be providing live fight entertainment
for the folks over there at Luke Thomas dot com?

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
But do it my best? Well, it's not Luke Thomas
dot com. It's YouTube dot com slash Luke Thomas.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
But yes, can they access through via the substack or
do I don't understand technology?

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
No, they would have to be just on the YouTube. Yeah,
these are two separate platforms. But yes, I'll be doing
I'll watch along for at least the two top fights,
and then I'll do a post fight show.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Well, we did this episode today because I'm going on
vacation later this week, but you'll be back on Monday.
With Chuck Minnenhall in studio to recap. Is right, we're
going to record a next Friday episode ahead of time.
I don't think. I don't know if we pushed for
enough questions enough movem. I just have to og rsd
it right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Yeah, how about us? Email us Morning Combat at gmail
dot com. Keep your questions to a paragraph for less.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Yeah, please, and we'll hit him up for a special
mail bag episode that all week that will air a
week from this Friday, when we both are a way.
We come back though the following Monday, So don't get upset. Sorry,
I got burps here. Jed Mischu from MMA Fighting dot com.
We thank you for flying up from the Deep South
for this, for sprinkling in your dirt baggery on top

(01:27:26):
of what we already built here in this foundation. We
love you. I think the people love you, but I
would not be surprised if they didn't. Is really where
I'm trying to go. Oh, they shouldn't love me. But
I want to thank y'all because this is super fun.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
It was way more fun this time to not have
you put me on a plane where I will sit
in the loading bay for seven hours.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Delayed because I'm in charge of that, and Luke is
just sending me mean messages like where the fuck are you?
I was like, I'm stuck in this fucking airport, but
so thanks for you know, sending me up at a
reasonable time for plus. Look, m K, they do it
big when they're not trying to intentionally ruin your day
with a red eye that gets delayed by six hours.

(01:28:09):
Your reputation right with the lower third? You got any
more insulting ones for jed back? There? We have them all?

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Can we see them? Let's see? Can we can we
go through the list? Probably believes in UFO frequent seven
to eleven ship shoplifter. That's a that's a guarantee. Mike
hex Caddy, I am legitimately better at golf than my
disgraced ex lawyer. Better call y'all. Ye took bar examine
a pub.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
I'm sure it was on time for once.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
That's a great. How many of these do you listen to? Halls?

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Every god damn right doesn't need Private Eyes?

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Is an incredible song, plays with action figures. You got
more holy ship cheats at life worse than Chandler?

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Wow? Whoever did this touch all the time? That was good,
well done. All right, I'll allooks bangs. Thank you for
your service. Can people watch you on the main card
minute this weekend?

Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
Yeah, I'll be live full card watch along, join me. Luke,
don't make a boyfriend joke.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
Thank you, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Boyfriend of the Year to Jafney, Jim Pierre, your trusty
co host, Jed, thanks for being here, Thanks for listening. Folks.
We will not have a Friday episode this week, but
enjoy this. Watch it again a few times. Thank you
to Cuervo Total Wireless. You know what I mean, Mando, DraftKings,
all the fight.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Everyone taking good care of us, and the fans for
tuning in on a Wednesday. We have been a Wednesday
MK in a while. I know this felt good, feel
very good.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
You want to shout out Ken too. I mean, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
He's gonna know what dead animal he's got on his nest, but.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Ah, there it is. Shout out to our great folks
behind the scenes, Kennon the Deer, We love you. Thank
you to Metal Larks Studios. Thank you for watching until then.
Guys for Luke, Luke, Jed, all the other guys in MEBC,
take care of yourselves. Enjoy the fights. This weekend. It's
going to be a great one. We're out of here. Hey,
you
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