UFC 316 Pregame Preview: Dvalishvili vs. O'Malley Presented By Cuervo® | Morning Kombat - MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Really really look at this now tempted.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Jesus.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh he's doing what it's time to bank.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Oh yeah, right, we're talking about real talk like the
men do. Welcome on in. Hey, it's UFC three sixteen
pregame preview and this is Morning Combat. Brian Campbell, my
typical co host from DC. Luke Thomas what special here
by way of sports net making his I don't want

(00:59):
to say in person an MK debut, because you did
appear at the three Margaritas, That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Never forget I was there for you on a margarita
in person.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
But Aaron Brown, setter of Canadian fame, of Vinyl fame.
Great to have you here, Welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
And thank you. I want to do.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
I do want to clear one thing up that was
mentioned I guess last week. So when Luke, when I
was on with Luke, he asked me if I was
more of a mathlete or an athlete when I was
in high school. We heard and you've been and you've
been like looming on this for a lot of time.
So I'll break this down mathematically for you. I failed
math in grade ten and eleven, so I was terrible
at math. So really, any athletic endeavor that I would

(01:34):
have done would have been better.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Look at the screen.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
I mean, as you.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Can see, I had to take time away from the gym.
There in a self proclaimed former varsity, but I never
proclaimed it. So I picked. I played like pick up
basketball and like road hockey. So those athletic endeavors to
me made me more of an athlete than an athlete
because I had failed math.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Were pistol from beyond.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, I could shoot.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Did your school have minorities?

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Well, I mean you consider Jewish people minorities as if
so we were like eighty five percent.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Minor not like typically NBA. Ready, and then you go
to like a like a high school like I went to,
and you know, on that subject, when I went for
summer school because I failed math twice, like I mentioned
many times before this, I went to Von Secondary School,
which is where Andrew Wigans played fast.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
That's nice.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean I was.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
I was athlete adjacent.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Okay, very good, All right.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
We'll get more to see you Wednesday, June fourth, twenty
twenty five. As I mentioned, we're a few days out
from just down the road and river from here in Newark,
New Jersey. And if you're gonna travel there, please use
Newark Penn Station, Luke Thomas sent you.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
You know the good part about Newark pen Station. Everywhere
is a toilet. You don't have to walk to the toilet.
You just go. That's what you do.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Where's the bathroom?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
They just let just look around exactly everywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
In today's episode of Morning Combat is of course presented
to you by DraftKings. DraftKings. The crowd is yours also, folks,
this is pregame preview with our friends from Quervo. So, Luke,
we should probably indoctrinate this episode and and braun into
our way of.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
What the word indoctrinate means. But I'll run infest infest
date is not a proper word either from proper conjugation.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Anyway, when you can get a little Quervo Blanco in
your life, you should, That's where I'm talking about, especially
when real men are going to get together.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I heard a certain someone is gonna than not real man,
it's gonna chicken. Why can't you booze?

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Because I'm doing an interview with Sean O'Malley directly after this.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
You should show up to work smelling like piss. That's
what you should do.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
So I should head over to newer pen stations. That's
where I should send my my uber after this.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Okay, you talk all that ship about how I'm not
shooting and you're pooring half shots.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Dude, this is a double shot.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
That's not a double shot.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
It's a single shape. Hey, three margaritas, let's go how many?

Speaker 4 (03:54):
About how many? How do you get a double shot
into one shot glass?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
You don't? That's my point.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Okay, I'm gonna go full. I'm going all in.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
You talk that ship, you gotta back it up at
least a little bit.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I'm not the one chasing it.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I am chasing.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Okay, I don't talk that ship.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I don't talk that ship. I have my lane and
it's the it's the pussy lane, and I'm just gonna
live in it. Hey, why don't you pour more on
the desk, you fucking moron.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Well, I'll enjoy my my grapefruit and fused water from
this bougie studio you guys have.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Is we legal in Canada?

Speaker 6 (04:20):
What's this?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yes? It is right, it has to be.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, what about tariffs?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Aaron?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Okay, so we're gonna now sound like my uber driver
from yesterday.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
He just I told him I was from Canada and
he just got deep into the political weeds with me,
and I was like, come on, Adam, I'm just trying
to enjoy my French Canada and you don't.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
As we sank in Columbia, Luke.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
All here we go, get your classes al centroo.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
All right, we're gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
M great water, great food, tinged. I love it.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Man. Fuck you.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
How about I was on the clock, I would be
indulging in this, in this great What is your drink
of choice? I'm a whiskey guy, Bourbon whiskey like that
straight up.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Usually I make old fashions. Sometimes I have that the
bidders and yeah, that's like you know, if I'm winding
out after a long day.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, he's an old timey type of guy. He's an
old music and whiskey very much so. Guys, when I
say words to you like three three sixteen, I don't
want you to say what.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Do you think?

Speaker 7 (05:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, do you do you think of a stone called et? No,
we don't UFC three sixteen. Given the climate in UFC
right now, and this will not be a negative UFC program,
Let's celebrate a pay per view that's coming let's have fun.
But how do we rate the depth of this pay
per view, the star power all things considered, Luke, can
we get a letter grade to kick this off?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Oh, that's a good one. So I'm gonna grade it
by like pay per view standard. And we've talked about
this before. It's one of two UFC pay per views
this month, which is a tough thing to do because
one is clearly going to be better than the other.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
I think fans prefer good fights over paying, because a
lot of them don't pay anyway.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I think it's just I think this one might be better.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Like this, the main card might better than International Fight
Week main top to bottom.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
What like, like I'm talking about the five fights in totality, Yeah,
maybe debut.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
The problem is that main event at International Fight Week
is like it's so it's killer. Uh yeah, yeah, I'd
probably give it a B minus.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Ron, would you agree on this?

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Gonna say it's like in the B plus range for me.
I got you got two title fights. You got Kayla
Harrison potentially, like.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
She's like that story, She's.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
Revived that division, Like I mean that division was like
totally on the verge of stagnation before she came along, I.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Think she has a chance to revive.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
I would least she's kept it interesting because noone is left.
Like if you look at the Noon's era and who
were ranked in the top fifteen, like not much has changed.
There's no obvious contender next Like if Noons isn't coming back,
who's going to get the next title shot? Like there's
nobody there. So having Kayla Harrison come in and shake
things up, I think has done wonders for again when

(07:03):
I think a division that was on the verge of stagnation.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I'll give you that. She's gonna add personality, a great
story and I love that uf she's like trying to
tell it through countdown and embedded of you know, taking
on her siblings, children and all that. But I think
it's also just a great story with her you know,
Olympic background, cutting this much weight, and I do believe
she's the bridge to getting Amanda back. Now, I think
Amanda would come back if Juliana won too, But I'm

(07:26):
saying that's that's where I think they can really pump
some life into not just the division, which has really
kind of been down for a while, but women's m
a man in general, I think this could be a
spike to it right because I like pleasure spiked with
pain and the UFC women on my aeroplanet fuck out.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
How can you hip hop horn that you encourage this.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
I mean it's one hot minute. I mean it's not
the best of the chili papers.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
That's the Dave of Navarro era.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I think I think that the I I really do
hesitate to call this a the level event because Morob
is the champion of one of the better divisions. The
matchup can be hit or missed depending on what O'Malley brings,
But you know, one thirty five title being on the
line is a significant event to the point that you
raised in the co main event cayleb at least her
and what she's doing has injected life. And then you

(08:18):
got the the debut of Patchie Mix in the UFC,
which by itself, I think Patchi Mix versus Maria Baptista
could be the headlining of a fight night if they
they played it right. Joe Pifer versus Kevin Gastlum is
a ton of fun there now. Kevin Holland and Fine
Fine fight to open perfect exactly gets you going, what's

(08:38):
the appetite? All that kind of stuff. So I think
there's definitely some quality there. It just doesn't have the
wow factor that some of the other cards later this
summer has.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
It is the beginning. If I'm trying to find some
joy in this calendar year in Mma, I think it's
the beginning. Given upward trend, June's packed in the summer
does have big main events, so I'm happy about that.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Fired up definitely all of June, all four weekends have
sick main events.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
No doubt about it. Our main event for this Saturday
UFC three to sixteen, of course, is a rematch, not
a rematch everybody was screaming for, but the closer we get, man,
I am interested when you take into account the storylines,
particularly former champion Shaan O'Malley as we've been talking about
a lot leading up to this, swearing off everything from
weed to podcasting to jaying the peen. I think that's

(09:21):
how they could say it. I think he was od
locked in against Morob devalis Veli, who man, he's indestructible.
He had like the back injury in his first title
defense against umar Andr maga Metov that his team was
begging him to pull out of it, just broke a
couple toes. I think in the last few weeks either way, guys,
when this was announced, people weren't raving. I've come around

(09:43):
to it. So from the perspective that matters here the
fight itself, ab let me start with you, what intrigues
you the most? X's and o's wise about this second
chance for Sean O'Malley atop this division, Well, I think.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
With Sean he's actually I think one of the tougher
matchups former rob in the division. I think his striking
because of how elite it is, and I think his
grappling is fairly underrated as well, Like in terms of
if you've ever watched his submission grappling matchups that he
had a couple of years ago, he's pretty good in
that regard, and I think he's probably only gotten better.
So if he is coming into this in a much

(10:17):
healthier fashion torn Labrum last time around, I think you
look at the odds last time and it was basically
the same odds as it is this time, except flipped
like O'Malley was like a minus two to seventy five favorite,
and the reason for that is he was a create
favorite in that fight, and the expectation was, oh yeah,
O'Malley's gonna win, to get a knock him out or
get a decision or something along those lines. Obviously we've
seen from Arab and you look at his resume, it's

(10:37):
like it's it's absolutely stacked. But at the same time,
I think that from a matchup standpoint, like this is
an intriguing matchup. I did an article for Sports and
at this week where I went back to the first
fight and looked at it from a judging standpoint with
a judge.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Which judge this is a man named Patrick Linenfelder.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
He actually invented a new app called like the MMA
Judge Analyzer, so you can watch fights in real time
and score and time and then at the end you
look at how it scored, kind of almost numerically, so
like you have like fifteen to ten for this person,
and then and then you have a minute by minute
break or actually it's more of a second by second
breakdown of where you waited those rounds.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
It was kind of a cool technology.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
When you went into the lab and rewatched the first one,
which I believe I was fairly confident going as high
as even four one.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Morob, Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
What did you find out upon applying this scientific you
know which no one doesn't judge.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
It's very nerdy, right so I mean but yeah, you
don't get laid with it, but no, definitely not yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
But anything mma really but when you look.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Unless you're grooming balls, no as like a young fighter
to marry, you know what I mean, like like a sleek.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Unless you're like just being a sex press.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, back to you.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Thank you for making get back to me on that note.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
But when you when you look at it again, people
I think thought it was more of a dominating result
than it was.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
But if you go back to it two.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Of the.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Oh okay, yeah, okay, is it trusting me?

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Yeah, if you're looking at the audio or you're not
going to get what we're laughing at.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
But so feel free to check it on YouTube.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
But sorry, O'Malley one rounds three and five on two
of the judges' scorecards, and the first round. If you
go back to it, it's a fairly close round. Now,
I think that if you would have given that fight
to O'Malley, people would have gone crazy, like it would
have the sphere might have had a hole poked in
it by the fans because of how convincing that fight
looks from Rob.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
But didn't Rob get three takedowns in that first round?

Speaker 4 (12:24):
No? No, I think one takedown.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yes, one, and it was negated not automatically but fairly quick.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
And I think the problem for Amalley is he didn't
put too much out in the first round. So like
I think that it's a comfortable round for It's like
a it's a competitive but clear round for Morob. But
that being said, like two three more punches in that
first round, like they could have potentially given that to
Amaley based on how fights are scored round by round and.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
The scoring criteria.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
But you have two really dominant rounds from Rob in
there with two four, So you know, optically Rob wins
that fight. If you're doing pride judging, like ten times
out of ten, Morob wins that fight. So when you
but when you look at it again, round by round,
very close fight. And I think that this fight is
going to be a close one as well. I think
that Sean is being kind of overlooked in the same
way that Morob was the first time around.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Luke. We did talk a lot about we're expecting a
better O'Malley's not doesn't have the torn labram that he
delayed surgery for. Obviously he's going into the mental He's
not going full Anthony Joshua mental isolation like the four
days in the dark Room where you like, you think
he has to use the restroom in the pitch black
when he does mean.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Like Aaron Rodgers, yes, I'll just be wearing depends and
just let it go.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
My question ultimately to you is how much better can
he be than that first time? Especially when you add
in now they got five rounds of video that they
can look back on and try to You know, that's
a smart coach in Tim Walls right there. They're a
very good team, the two of them. How much better
do you expect to see, O'Malley.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I expect them to be significantly better. The question is
whether or not that matters, because you would imagine Morob
is also going to make some adjustments along the way,
and so they're going to play catch up. I think
no matter what. But you know, there's just some things
about five Morob that you really have to kind of
come around to, which is you know I talked about this,
I think on Monday show or maybe last Friday show

(14:06):
when we were like previewing this. I've been doing a
lot of tape studying on Morob and I actually it's
kind of this is driving told you about this. I've
spent the last week reaching out to fighters and coaches
about some theories I have on how to beat Morob
and like just getting some anybody take the advice, all
of them, all of them. Yeah, I couldn't believe people have.
It's kind of funny. Apparently a lot of people have
thought about this well.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
And to be fair to to you know, handle your
bag a little. You have had active fighters, even champions
reach out to you.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I did. I've had I had a UFC champion reach
out for tape study. So I was pretty happy about that.
But in any case, I asked a bunch of other ones,
not that one. I asked a bunch of other ones,
like what they thought about it, and and and what
O'Malley could do. And one of the big things that
like they kept coming around to was if you notice
as time goes on, not the first round, right, which
was you know we would discuss previously, but the other rounds.

(14:54):
A lot of times O'Malley gets taken down and he'll
hold position with a guard, or he'll spend a lot
of time time with O'Malley, excuse me, with with Rob
on his back, not in any kind of threatening way
for submission. But he can't build height if you just
time the clock, dude, he's burning minutes doing this he's carrying.
And also like if you're doing that where you're just

(15:15):
focused on building height, there's just no meaningful offense there.
You might be able to sneak a couple of short
shots in, but there's no meaningful offense. You can't do
that with him. You have to have a game plan
where it's attack all the time, not necessarily like running
at him, but whatever position you're in, it's time to attack.
And that also has implications for the stand up department

(15:36):
because when he let his strikes go with some of
those kicks in the fifth round, and I know that
Alja man Sterling was saying things like, you know he
fakes that kind of stuff, But after he takes the
bodykick in the fifth round, he tries for two takedowns
and he fails miserably at them.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
I thought he might break in that moment.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
So my thought is like, dude, you can't fight this
fight being like I'm going to be I'm going to
protect my space. Dude, you have to kind of throw
what he does. You kind of have to his intensity.
You kind of have to, you know, take some risks
along the way.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
You might take him though, because that's what he does.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I think he's If you aren't injured and you're a
champion this way class, there's no reason you cannot match
his You can no one can match Morob's cardio, but
you can have twenty five minutes of good cardios.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
O'Malley's best round in that last fight exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
So my point is you're asking how different can he
be with a better health, to get better prep and
better strategy, this fight could be a lot different.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
Though.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
In the countdown, show really focused in on what he's
giving up from the distractions of where his life was,
and I like that. Even admitted like I was believing
in the sugar thing a little too much. I had
become the gimmick, he kind of basically said without saying there,
And now you're seeing him extreme family man. I'm wondering
if that, uh if the open side of that relationship
is off the table, though this is not part of
the analysis that you typically enjoyed.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
But would that help him I'm wondering.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
I'm wondering if he's gone the full level of back
to like one woman.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
One, you know, do you need to crank the hall
if you're just slaying the beast every way?

Speaker 3 (17:02):
What I'm really trying to set up here is that
Morab really hasn't outside of the fifth round where he
did finally slowed down. He caught that jumping knee of
the face too, you know, like it caught up to
him a little bit had he not been disciplined by
a striker before that. Since like the marish fight, which
was like the beginning of the streak for him.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
The streak, Sohudo cracked him, Altho kind of cracked him
a couple of times, but no one had No.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
One's been able to get him off of that a game, right.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Because everyone's fighting him on his urn exactly exactly the issue,
Like they're all kind of waiting for him to do
something and then reacting to it rather than like setting
the offensive tone, which again hard to do, so rare.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Is it to be a come forward guy with that
volume and constant pressure and become that responsible defensively, because
when I rewatched the first fight, that's the thing that
jumped out for me. It's not just the high guard,
which he constantly employed to stop the kind of O'Malley
strikes that he's used to landing to set up other ones.
It was the darting in and out. I mean, we
know it goes without saying. He's got, you know, historically

(18:04):
great cardio, but he was like never in range. So
how does O'Malley get him back to that range in
the rematch? That's my question because obviously that threat of
the takedown is a big part of what Morob does great.
Mixed with the pressure and the constant threat, you're you're
always playing his game, but you have to not only
doesn't have to land, he has to take back those terms,
and without a wrestling game, it's not going to be easy.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
I don't think you can match. You can't match Morob's wrestling.
Why would you try?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Right, So, you're automatically going to be losing some of
your stanama because you're going to spend time using a
lot of energy fighting off those.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Takedown Again, why would you keep fighting off the takedowns,
put in a little bit of effort. If they go, fine,
reset the terms underneath that. You have to completely reset
the terms. And I talk about it all the time
what Corey sam Thagan did against Devison FIGUREDO, he gets
taken down a couple of times, did he stay under
there and fight underneath? Nope? He inverted and was like, no,
I'm going to go for a heel hook backside fifty
to fifty and make you react to it. You have

(18:58):
to make Morob react. And another part is on the
stand up, guys will just hold it. They'll hold it,
they'll hold it waiting for Morob to do something as
he's moving side to side, in and out, fainting side
to side, and so you're just not throwing. You're not
using offensive volume in that way. I'm not saying you
have to walk him down and put it on him.
You could wait for him to approach and then intercept
him at the point of contact and then knowing you

(19:20):
might still get taken down, and then you'll have a
whole offensive sequence. But the point I'm trying to make
is any game plan that's gonna work on Morob involves
hurting him any game plan, any game plan that you
can't beat him.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
Do.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
We saw Umar Umar, I thought, what how about you?

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Umar?

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I was like, okay, Umar can match him in the
wrestling and can take him down and shut all that down.
And then it turns out Morob's takedown defense is fucking awesome, but.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
I think it was stamina induced.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Stamina induced as well. It's also his technical part of
his technical takedown defense was so good in that fight.
You can't do that either, So that is shut down.
You have to hurt this guy.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
And I think the advantage that O'Malley has and nobody's
had a rematch with Morab yet, this is the first
rematch that Morob has had is I don't think you
can prepare for the mental energy that is going to
be expended from having to face a guy like that
who is not going to go away, who's going to
be on you for five rounds, who's going to be
in your face, Like as much as you want to
do in training, like, you can't practically train for the

(20:21):
mental drain that comes with having to face a guy
like that that's just constantly going to be in your face.
Having dealt with that already for O'Malley I think is
going to be a big bonus for him as well.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, I mean he's gonna know what that drowning feeling
is like. And I'm just trying to figure out how
like that is a dramatic change to his game or
is it just he's going to be twenty to thirty
percent better fully healthy dialogue. I don't.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I think one of the big mistakes is there might
be some real big differences, but in general, at this
level of MMA, small differences yield big results. I don't
think you need to like completely overhaul it, but you
might want a small tweak to for example, the pushkick
that was so successful in the in the fifth round,
let's just imagine something he brings it out in the first. Now,

(21:06):
of course you would imagine also Morob is gonna be
looking for that for the takedown too, But let's just
say he can snap it off a little bit and
that begins to create a chain reaction of events, sets
up other offense, neutralizes the kind of come forward pressure
of Rah. This yields big results. So people are like, oh,
you got a completely change what you were doing. Well,
maybe on the ground, I think on the ground, he

(21:26):
does really need to change on the on the feet.
You gotta do what they said, what Terrence Crawford does.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
What does he do?

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Ready? He goes, I get active, That's right, he has
to get active out there.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
He gets active and again that first round. Had he
been more active in that first fight, he might have
won it, might have won it. And I think that
that's the X factor from the Umar fight with Morob
was again. I just think that mental energy that you
can't account for when you're fighting a guy like that.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
That's what Costumer down the stretch.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
He was just two steps behind when the championship Browns
came about. And I think, O'Malley again, I think the
odds for this fighter are off, Like.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
I believe this is a much closer fight. Do we
have I think we introduced the fourth.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Member of our team here long Island, Luke no cita.
We know how he got here. No need to rehash
that history. Dad's from Australia. I heard was Horn no ceda.
Do you have the draftings odds on that.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
I'm pulling them up right now. Last I looked, I
believe Morob was minus three hundred ish.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Yeah, it's two seventy five so he's minus.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
Two to eighty five Sewan coming back plus two thirty.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
All right, I got a couple things to bring up here.
Morob striking is certainly not something you need to it's
not a major threat, but it's evolved to almost an
elite habib level where he's he's used the awkwardness and
he's figured out how to use to set things up.
Will we see any increases in that?

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Will?

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Will? Will he have evolved in that area? And your
eyes coming into here at all? I mean, is it
just the fact that it's odd timing and looping shots,
or is it the fact that he's just so active?
What's the real threat here? On the feet?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I mean, I think his striking is functional and it's
got some value for sure. I don't think it's just
like poorly rudimentary and there's nothing else to it. But
you know, you spend a bunch of time striking with
Sean O'Malley, and if he's got a different attitude, I
don't know how much that's going to mean, you know,
I think I think Morob's key to victory here is
to get to get to the back control position, ground

(23:17):
and pound, rinse and repeat. You know or if he
can get him flat on his back too, that that's
going to be a place as well. I just don't.
I just don't think long term success is on the feet.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
He's going to need not only the threat of the takedown,
but he's going to need the takedown as well right
to tire out his opponent.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Well, what Morob does really well, in my opinion, is
when he gets those takedowns and he gets control. We've
seen in the past a lot of fighters get complacent
with control, and I think that costs them on the
scorecards because they're not doing.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Much with it.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Morob is so active after the takedown with his striking.
He's constantly landing, and that's constantly scoring. Is he's not
afraid to lose that position. Is he's confident he's going
to get it back right now. I think a lot
of fighters think they hang on to that position for
dear life, right and it costs them because they're losing
valuable minutes their own offense because they believe that they're
winning on the scorecards.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Just simply because they have their opponent on the ground.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
Then fighter gets up lands a couple you know, front kicks,
punches and suddenly you're down because he didn't do anything
with your control. Rob's not afraid of losing that control,
and he's willing to utilize his striking on the ground
to punish you when you're on the ground and when
you're getting up.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Okay, let me put a Let me put like an
asterisk on that though, because I fully agree with it.
Did you just call cap No? I think that's I
think it's basically correct. But what I'm about to say
is a matter of interpretation. This is my interpretation in
that fight, and I think it's relevant who the referee
is for this one. Do we know who the referee
is yet? Have they announce New Jersey? No?

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Not yet.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
But Rob stalls. He stalls in my view, Now what
I what do I mean by that? Is he'll get
to a control position where he's not trying to advance
the position. So let's say, O'Malley's got one leg up,
one knee down, he's got behind the waist, and he'll
throw knees to you know, the thigh or something, not
super hard, but to your points, it's kind of raining
down pretty consistently, but you know it's not effectuating anything

(25:04):
as a result. He'll do this for a minute or
more if you let them, and I think that the
referee should put a stop to that. This is my
personal opinion. My personal opinion is and I had a
long conversation with a bunch of referees about this too.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Oh shit, look at you.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
They they not so much Morob specific, but what they
say is they're starting to see a lot of guys
get to some kind of control position and throw a
continuous barrage of what they call busy shots in order
to hold it right. They're not actually scoring damage, and
they have no intention of putting the hooks.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
In leaning the weight and especially in the clinch, just
using those moments to just put.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
That they're scoring more damage than the guy who's on
the bottom eating the shots. All right, yeah, and that
I think when you're scoring a fight matters. But I
thought in the last fight Herb Dean was way too
quick on the trigger with that, like I did.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Morob would take him down. He'd immediately be like get up,
you know, he says.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I think if you have both knees on the mat
and your chest chest and that goes on for thirty seconds,
you're stalling.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
But he wasn't doing that.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
He was doing that.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Absolutely, he was landing strikes the side that he was landing.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
If you have both these and chest to chest and
you're punching like this, this is nothing.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
I just I'm getting turned down by the adversarial nature
this conversation.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
I don't think it is nothing, though, I mean, it's
definitely nothing when it comes to the actually, there is
no meaningful ground and pound chest to chest, knees on
the ground.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
It doesn't exist.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
He was on the debate team in high school.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
But it's not that it's not meaningful, but it's it's
meaningful enough that the referees, at least by the letters
of the letter of the law, aren't standing up. It's
it's activity. It's not that it's meaningful activity, but it's
activity busy work.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
It's not activity. There's a difference in my view.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
What's differ that in passing, Like if you're passing.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Passing, you're trying to advance position.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
I understand, but that's still being busy on the ground, Like,
that's still in the eyes of the rest.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
So I'm sure you can be busy and being and
being stall and then you can be busy and then
you're actively trying to advance. But I think that there's
a portion of like is it's not like Morob is
just like and not moving. That's That's not the point
that I'm making. What I'm making is he's doing an
active version of this where it's just kind of this
and there's really nothing happening. Now, you could make the

(27:10):
claim that the guy underneath, and in case Sean O'Malley
should have done more, and I think for his winning chances,
there's no argument he absolutely needs just sitting there and
being like, oh, I'm gonna wait for the referee to
save me, good fucking luck. You know, you're totally at
the at the whim of whoever is doing that, and
they may agree with him, they may agree with me.
It doesn't who knows. You have to have active offense underneath.

(27:31):
I'm just saying I have, in my view, I have
seen Morob go to places where there's nothing meaningful happening,
and I think we should be a little bit more
aggressive in calling sauling on that.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
Okay, here's one thing I want you to weigh in on.
O'meanley did a lot of work with Dimitriz Johnson in
this camp and we're talking about brighton minds. I mean,
there are very few that you'll find that are brighten
in Deitriz Johnson, how many different strategic I guess advantages
do you think you'll have just from working with Demetrius
and being able to pick the brain of somebody like that?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Hard to say, but I would imagine scrambling underneath would
be a big factor for that. Movement is another big
factor for that, like Demetrius's movement in and outside to side,
setting up strikes, all that's going to be pretty relevant.
Beyond that, though, you just don't want to take a
guy like Sean out of his game. You know, he
has to still do Sean O'Malley things and true, I
think just picking up ways in which you could create

(28:26):
scrambles underneath, ways in which you could you know, pull
pull the rob into things that could be hugely beneficial. Again,
it's off at least.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
More than one sip on that drink. I mean, are
you putting that thing through?

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Gone to close on this main event?

Speaker 3 (28:42):
O'Malley is going all in. I love when fighters do that.
You know, no stone left unturn all that stuff. He's
still what thirty one, he's probably entering that second half
of his prime, but he's still in it in terms
of his aura and marketability. I know there's a lot
of people on MMA Twitter trying to say, well, he
never was that market blah blah blah blah, here's the
YouTube numbers to fix. Yeah, does he need to win
to retain what he's been known for as a star

(29:05):
fighter in this matchup? Because some guys lose back to
back to other great fighters and they're never the same
more often than not.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
You know, I think it would be kind of foolish
to say yes, just because we know that in this sport,
like it's it's what have you done for me lately?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
And if you lose this to an a roun and Rob, yeah,
it's gonna hurt his stock.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
But if he comes back it has like an incredible
knockout over somebody, Like you know, we know how the
fans deal with mixed martial artiz It's like, how did
you do in your last fight? It's like that's what
you are. That's how they look at these fighters, which
I think is wholly unfair, but it's also just the
nature of the game.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
I think he might move up the featherwaight to.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Well also something you didn't bring this up, but something
to talk about Morob here as well. You know, if
you watch the reaction after the winner over O'Malley, the
crowd was, you know, nonplussed for the most part, but
then when you watch the reaction after he beats Umar,
the crowd really lights up. And I noticed online too
that like the way in which he theatrically almost dismissed Umar,

(30:02):
it won him a lot of fans. And honestly, you know,
Long Island not too far from New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
I know, sh okay, all right, all right, quick fingers
over there.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
It's like if you want to get just sitting there,
if you need if you need meth, it's not hard
to find that. What I'm trying to point out is
it'll be interesting to see what, like what kind of
reception either of them gets. So Maley's supposed to be
the bigger star, and I suppose that he is, but
I might venture to say that Morob might get a
pretty big pop that night.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
And one more thing, you were in, and that's a
great point. You were in the crowded sphere when they
fought the first time. By the way they're just calling
it now at Sphere, not at thus energy at Sphere.
You know, some people from other parts of the country
are like, I went to problem last night, so you
went to the prom, Like what are you an asshole?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Or when they say I went to university, yeah, or
I have.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
To go bathroom, you know, like just you know, okay, sir,
I mean all third world you're I have to go body.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Abe.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
The things that that Tim Welch did say about the
lighting being you know that I'm bringing this up because
the recent Times Square boxing card, which like really bad
fights and it was hot in there that were it
was just weird. Right, there's a flashing lights with the
Times Square. Do you think there's anything valid to that,
being that you were there and it's just a different
lighting grid than they're used to at the start of it,

(31:14):
then you've got this entire screen that encompassed.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
We last Morov about this yesterday because I said, you know,
they've been talking about this. You know, what was your
experience fighting there? And he said he actually liked the
lighting better at the Sphere. He said he wished the
lighting was like that in all of his fights because
he said he could see his opponents so clearly, really
He also said that he could hear his corner so
much better at the sphere because there's only one side
of the sphere. Had the fans right, because the theater
set up, and he said he loved it. He said

(31:37):
that in the fifth round, you know, had he not
been able to hear his corner and John Woods so
clearly might have ended up, you know, taking undue risks
that he didn't to take because his corner was like,
you've got this fight, just.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
You know, don't do anything silly.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Yeah, when he was getting hurt, just like he was,
they were basically saying get away from him, you know,
like that helped him. So I think it's based on
what your experiences in that fight and in that moment.
So maybe the lighting was bad for O'Malley, But Morob
said the opposite. He said he thought the lighting was
better than any other fight that he's had.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
This is the central question about the improvements that O'Malley
wants to make. How many of them are like, oh,
I can change this and it's a real improvement, Versus
how many of it is something he's telling himself as
an improvement, but it's no real actual change.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
He needs an extra gear, which he didn't have last time.
Maybe he thought the fight was closer than that was,
but he didn't have that extra guy. I know he
heard him in the fifth I know that was a
surging moment for him, but I didn't see that like
electricity to him the whole fight. Morob had taken that fight. Yes,
Morob's style is so taxing and demanding prediction time or
which way are you lean in or anything you're willing
to go on record to say, if you're a real

(32:41):
man and you're willing to talk like men.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Do welling to just say reckless dumb shit.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Uh, Morob by close and possibly even contentious decision is
where I end up. I think O'Malley will be better,
but I think the same equation O'Malley facing against Morob
is a problem for him in either situation. You know
what I'm saying, You're going to get physically taxed fighting
Rob Umar was not the same Umar once that guest

(33:09):
thank started to slip. I just feel like it's inevitable
to be a little bit closer, but we're gonna see
almost a repeat of the first fight, just a little closer.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
That's kind of where my head is at too. I mean,
you know, usually when there's a change in a rematch,
it's either something went terribly wrong with the judging of
the refereeing in the first one and they book an
immediate one, and then there's the change you expected. But
if something was again one side is a little strong,
but you know fairly clear who the winner was, and
then they're a book in a rematch ten months later.
One guy was active during that time.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, hanum matters, wellmentum matters. And right now, Morob who's
going to try to close this year with four title
defenses in one year, which would be an awesome, like
historical note for him to have. He's pomp for pound ranks,
he's bad ass, he's all that does he get it
done a second time.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
I'm gonna go with O'Malley this time around.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Yeah, I don't think right. I don't think that Ko
is off the table either. I think that if I
think that it's indestructible this week, I just I understand that.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Right, I know.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
But even couldn't get not by Ko or No, that's
that weird. Ricky Simone's submission, which I still don't really get,
but it.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Was out I guess whatever.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
I mean, it's Mark Goddard. I don't want to question.
I think he's the best rough we've got right now.
But I just think that O'Malley has more ways to
win this fight, to be honest, and I think I
think that when it comes back.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Ways to win where I mean, I get that Mob
is not a finisher, so maybe the more creates.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Yeah, I think I think that O'Malley if he can
put you know, make morobs start to think a little
bit more in this fight, maybe hurt him early. I
think you can switch the tie of the fight quickly.
And I think that uh yeah again, I'll just go
on on a limb. I think that O'Malley can, especially
with it being a rematch like that. All of these
different things are taking me more to that real fast.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Something'd be interesting to consider. It is o' maley could
lose like the first three rounds, but then hurt him
badly in the fourth and then finish him off in
the fifth. Like it's not one of these things where
he has to win a bunch of rounds. Oh, he's
got a he's got a bank rounds early. Maybe he
doesn't have the bank rounds at all.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
So dude, this dude doesn't injuries don't slow him down
like nothing.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
It's hard to go against the guy's been. He's the
machine for a reason.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
And the momentum I think is key. Yeah, he's put together.
I mean it is, it has been absolutely in credit
Long Island. Look, you have anything to add on this
main event?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Fifty you are you're you're in You're in what south Shore?

Speaker 4 (35:33):
North sor can you remind me when we Robb used
to train north Shore? But said he was it? Wait
rob used to train and he lived in these parts city?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Where was it in city? So long ago?

Speaker 5 (35:42):
Yeah, and that's kind of near Long Island, right, it's
on Long It's on Long Island.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Wo.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Yeah it might be.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
But he's an adopted Long Island brethren.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
What's the Long Island equivalent in Ontario? They have like, uh,
you know, just the strip of land where it's like
at the tip of it, if you go tip to tip,
it's rich. But everything else as as you go down
the veins of the cheft to kids, maybe they get
worse until you.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
Maybe like pork credit, chout out the pork credit Ontario.

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Speaker 3 (37:38):
Very well done, right there, Hey, let's go to the
Comain event also abandonedly title fight, this time chicks two
chicks at one time in the cage and Saturday's Comaine
as the two time champion. But in my opinion, the
rightfully maligned Juliana Panna, who's got that fighting spirit? How
many elite wins should somebody have to be a two
time champion? How many?

Speaker 4 (37:58):
How many elite wins?

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Elite wins? She has one and the and the champ
wass hurt?

Speaker 4 (38:03):
How many opportunities did she have?

Speaker 5 (38:05):
I guess she fought chef Tchanko, but how many opportunities
did she have to have elite wins.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Well that's the point though, like if you're not good enough,
you won't get opportunity right.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
To But okay, well, let me rephrase that. How many
fighters in the women's vanthamweight division cold.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Qualified two title shots that were unwarranted in my opinion,
both of them given the time off of the second
one and then the first one. She had beaten anybody
she meet, Sarah McMahon barely. But that's not neither. That's
neither here nor there.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
I mean, she still plays to my lack of elite. Well,
that's probab qualifying elite.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
It's probably why the odds are insane here. As Kayla Harrison,
in her third UFC fight, looks to climb the mountain
become the champion at one thirty five long, Islan Luke,
according to DraftKings, are we still at like minus five
hundred higher Kayla.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
We are at seven hundred I think now minus seven
fifty seven fifty and plus five to twenty.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Five back on okay, wow, style wise, fighter to fighter wise,
they're telling you Kayla should and win, will handle the
business with ease. How much should we focus on the
storyline of the one thirty five cut. She won two
gold medals in judo at one seventy one, you know,
fought seventy two well, fought at one fifty five, fought
at one forty five once, and is now literally peeing

(39:16):
blood in the hospital of the week before the Kaitlyn
Vira win. And she got beat up a little bit
in there, but but she got through the storm. It
was a good experience builder. How much Aaron brownstutter should
we care slash focus on this thirty five year old
woman really pushing her body the limit just to show up.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I think she's.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Thirty four, so I don't want to age Kala more
than I think she did.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
I think she turns thirty five in like a week
or two weeks or something like that.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
Yeahood oh, either way, I think it's obviously it's it's
something worth discussing. I mean, she's done it twice ever, right,
and this is her third fight at one hundred and
thirty five pounds. She's never made a thirty five flat.
This will be her first fight at one hundred and
thirty five pounds flat. After like you guys said, competing
at one seventy two and judo won fifty five in
the PFL one forty five. Occasionally she'd have to change
her entire life in order to do this. But even

(40:01):
with a diminished product, will that still be enough to
beat Juliana Payya?

Speaker 4 (40:06):
And I think the answer is most likely.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
I guess I'm asking is is there are the potential
weight issues which could play into stamina, could play into anything,
and it may not even be a thing, by the way,
but is that the only way she could lose in
your eyes? Or is there in this matchup? Are people
not looking because obviously nobody except for Luke Kana half
fifty to fifty was giving Payna a shot against Newness
the first time rightfully, so she pulled off one of
the greatest wins in human spirit history. Okay, I do

(40:31):
think there's an asterisk after that rematch when we saw
Amanda full of healthy whatever? Is there? Is there part
of Kayla's game, like when Pacheco upset her in their
third meeting that can be solved by Payna here well.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
I think that the big question is when this gets
down the stretch into the championship rowns, will that one
hundred and thirty five pound version of Kayla Harrison have
the cardio to hang on if you've got a Juliana
Payne who's going to be.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
In your face.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
And I talk a lot about that with Morob the
mental energy that it takes that you can't really account
for when you have a championship level fighter in your face,
pushing the pace on you, landing strikes again, putting out offense.
And that's what Juliana Pina does, like she doesn't go
way like you have to get her out of there.
That's the thing that interests me the most about this
fight is like when we get into rounds four and five,

(41:15):
if Harrison hasn't gotten a stoppage, or Payya has gotten
a stoppage. If if that's what it comes down to,
what is Harrison going to be able to do to
maintain that sort of composure?

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Luke, what might as I take this shot of Cuervo Blanco,
thank you, thank you very much, what might rounds four
and five look like if they get to that point.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Man, it wasn't like I thought Kayla looked super depleted
in the third round against Kaitlyn Vieira. I thought she looked,
for the most part, still with it. Now, that was
a round she was able to get another takedown in,
so she wasn't exerting an enormous amount of energy there.
But you know, she looked fine, So I'm not so
sure she's going to fall off a cliff in the

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fourth of the fifth nless she's getting busted up on
the feet earlier, which case all bets are off, you
know what I mean. And and one of the things
that really comes to mind for me is Kayla is
sacrificing speed and explosivity trying to get down there like
she moves in slow motion. Not because she's a bad athlete,
far from it, but because it's such an absolute murderous.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Well, slow motion kicked the ship out of holly Holm,
and I'm not even sure Paya beats this version holly Home.
I'm just being honest with you.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
You seem pretty down on Paina. I mean, I'm I'm
picking Kayla quite clearly, but you don't give I'm just serious,
understand something.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
The card.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
The reason why Amanda Nunez won the rematch with Painya
is because.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
She was healthy well yeah, not injured, and she only
didn't pull out of the first fight, in my opinion,
because Dana gave her so much shit for pulling.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Out of the I don't think that would have changed much.
And the reason why I say that is because she
was getting lit up with the jab and she had
no way of getting her head out of the way.
So when the second fight, by the way, when she
was sitting in that same stance, she also got lit up.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
She had to fight stance south the whole.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Time because that was the only way she could control
the forty three. I just want to fine, fine, because
she has big power, and then once you take that away,
elbows up and she comes running.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
In like this, Yeah, it's a different and then I
hope it's just picking her off and sniping.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
What I'm saying, Yes, was she healthier, Yes, that the
bigger can't matter. She was getting she was getting out
technical in that first fight. You can say whatever you want,
that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
But like, is her best win, I'm being serious here,
is her best win? Like a second market Cats and
Ghano like or a still prime Jessica. I Like, that's
literally what we're talking about outside of that great victory
over Yes, I mean again, there's like, if there's no
tape that shows you that, look the obviously the answer
would be Rocky Pankt in the last fight, which but
that was one of the worst fights of all time.

(43:56):
I thought Rocky actually got ro I thought rock So
I'm I'm saying, like, where is I mean, the odds
makers are telling you that my aggressive skepticism is real,
So like, oh, you're the argument in less.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I mean because Harrison, I don't think at this weight
can move very well relative to her real athletic potential.
And Pina takes risks and will be and will be quicker, and.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
Like Julianna a lot, I think that her fighting style
is it's tricky because she's unpredictable and she does a
lot of things that I guess kind of overwhelmed your
CPU if you're not ready for it.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Dude, she has twenty five percent takedown defense. Pinya not great.
I mean, she should probably get taken down and probably
beat up. That's probably what's gonna happy.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
One year old Sarah McMahon did do that.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Right, This is probably what's going to happen. But like,
if you got a fighter who has an enormous handicap
with this weight cut, who has I think again physical
mobility issues as a consequence against someone who's kind of
quick and a big ass risk taker. I don't think
you can just dismiss that out of hand. I don't
think that interesting.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Interesting. Well, we knew that the silver lining on this,
along with the connection, potentially demanded newness coming back, which
I think she comes back no matter who wins this.
But the silver lining in a lot of ways is
the way this could be built.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Now.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
I'm not saying this has been a grudge blood war,
but we've had moments at that original kickoff press conference
and in the recent interviews, especially when they're on there
together enough that I can refill that shot class and
tell you it might be time for some Quervo shots fire.

(45:29):
This is shots fired, brought to you by Quervo. Now
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Shout out to UFC. They went back to the old school, like,
let's put the two fighters on and just have him
yell at each other. A little spicy moment here between
Paany and Harrison. Let's what listen in.

Speaker 7 (45:45):
Tayla you can get with the last word in if
you want, I mean, yeah, absolutely. First of all, not Ronde,
because Ronda couldn't win an Olympic gold medal, and second
of all, you are a great fighter.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
She'd be here, she'd be huge, didn't she RONDI ben.

Speaker 7 (46:00):
To my career And it doesn't matter because it's not
about that, and it wasn't your manager. That was literally,
you're gonna accomplish my id't been able to. I know
you've got nothing to lose. I know that you're gonna
throw the kitchen sink at me because you have no
idea how you're gonna beat me. And on June seventh,

(46:21):
I'm gonna put a hurt in on you.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
Okay, Okay, I'm so scared you're gonna put.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
A hurt on me.

Speaker 7 (46:28):
Scared, honey.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
So Luke, it sounds like you kind of are feeling that. Peina.
I understand you don't want to just dismiss her and
we and I did that incorrectly ahead of the Newness fight. No,
haven't done this before, but I didn't know all the
I just think historically we have to. You have to
add in that Amanda didn't have a full camp and
was injured and shouldn't have been in that fight, but
she took it, she lost it, she got it back

(46:51):
fifty to forty three. My point is, Luke, do you
see her waiting to the championship rounds if she thinks
that's her best chance and just trying to make this
I frantic, high energy fight in the meantime, is there
her whole goal here to push on that guest tank
or do you think Juliana thinks I can out box her.
I can get in there and hurt her.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I definitely think she wants to make her work, but
not not up close right. I mean, if Kayla gets
her hands on her and then can lock them, that's
p Yeah, that's a problem at that point. I mean,
the strength difference alone is going to be significant, to
say nothing of the technical difference. So it's going to
play a distance game. But I think it's frustrate, slow down, stop,
you know, put put up some kind of roadblock to

(47:29):
whatever she's doing. If it's a grappling context, and on
the feet, dude, I think it's about blitzing. I think
you're going to see blitzing on the feet and not
a headhunting as well. This is just an area of
the game that Kayla struggles with. For all these reasons,
there's a better.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Boxer between the two is it the awkwardness of Painia
that's going to win out here?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
In terms of that, I mean, I think, Aaron, maybe
you disagree. I feel like Pina can do more with
her striking. I don't know if I technically call her better.
I think she has the deep yeah, more effective something
like that.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Right, I mean, ILKs gross, but it's more, isn't more?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
When they're out here, you know, it's a lot of
my favorite but it gets the job done most of
the time anyway.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
I would agree with that.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
But I also think that if she gets sloppy, Kyla
is gonna have a good entry and take her down.
I mean, and that's going to be the problem, you know, Noonaz,
I don't think wanted to lose striking exchanges the Pannon
was willing to engage.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
I don't think that we're going to see that happen.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Like I think that when you I'm sorry, I get
distracted because they keep they keep keeping me with all
kinds of weird Canadians.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Was the last one probably the last one didn't even
run in the last election.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Fellas Maybe maybe they were talking about it earlier. I
didn't put those together, but there I.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Think the North Korean.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
I think that I think that if we do see
Paanya get sloppy, that that she'll get taken down. And
I think that's where she's most likely to lose the fighters.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
And if we can say one thing like what's the
best part of Kayla's offense, it's ground and pound her.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Ground pound, and I think she's got a lot of
good submissions.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
You know, even if she's a depleted weight, like she
can still she can.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I've noticed in the Kaitlyn Viera fighters a couple of
times she could have gone for an armbar and bailed
on it just to keep position. So I wonder at
least early if she'll avoid that now maybe later in
the fight she'll just you know, wrench into.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
It and Pena's got off her back.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
Also, like if you look at a Sarah mcmahonfight, for example,
like she was very active off her back, and I
think that could be a key for her as well,
is you know, as soon as she has taken down
throw off triangles, be creative, be crafty from bottom and
try to create scrambles.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
I feel like Kayla is not only have the physical
advantage mentally, she's so and I know Juliana is arguably
like the most mentally tough female fighter, Like, she's incredible
in that regard. I think Kayla's iron will on that
same level. I just feel like I wonder if Panya,
who was able to actually break down Nunias and finish
her ultimately, is thinking it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen late,
So let me just get through these rounds making it

(49:45):
as taxing as possible. But could Kayla get out to
a big lead. It's going to be interesting.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I mean, I'll ask you a question.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Please, this is what this show's about.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
If you if we get a Kayla like like her
best performance right makes way, she'll look terrible no matter what,
but then goes out there fucking bludgeons, yeah, pain right,
how big of a star can she be? Because here's
the thing, even if you want to say that could
be a big performance, I just don't know how many
of these weight cuts she's got in her.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
No, I don't think she has a lot in here.
And I think that she's actually I don't want to
see she's capped as a star because now her story
is finally getting out there on a higher level. I
don't think the star thing is going to go that far.
But I do think in her true goal, which is
to try to retire as the greatest of all time,
she's from the beginning, she said, I that's what I'm
going for. If she can lure Amanda Nuna's out and

(50:33):
get a big fight there. I mean, is there any
scenario where Cyborg comes back super old and you can
get that name on your resume too, or Pacheco gets signed.
I'm just saying, like, is there are there enough couple
names in this short window that she can really put
together like a strong career that you can close and say,
I beat all these people two time champion and PFL
champion in UFC. I wonder. I mean, I think at

(50:54):
the very least this is going to get us Amanda.
I mean, I don't think it's going to be a
massive pay per view draw, but it's going to breathe
life into these women's division, which could use that right now.
You need star power, you need rivalries. They actually Kayla
and Amanda have the Juicy X teammate rivalry.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Yeah for sure, And I think that a win over
Neonnez will definitely put her up there. I think Chef
Chenko's the more interesting name really if you're looking at
if you're looking at thirty five, right, I mean, I
don't think the UFC are in a hurry to bring
back a women's one hundred and forty five pounds division,
although if you look at last weekend with Macy Chase
on and unintentionally at one hundred and forty five pounds
with Kaitlyn Vieah.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
But yes, or at I see Barber unintentionally.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Yeah, well that's a whole different story.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
But I think that when I spoke to Kayla yesterday,
I said how much longer are you going to be
doing this for? And she's like, you know, people keep
asking me this, like I'm getting older. And I was like, well,
chef Chenko just defended the title. I believe thirty seven
years old. She goes, oh, I'm not stinking around that long.
I'm thinking that's like two years, Like.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
So how much how much ground can you actually make
up in that time?

Speaker 5 (51:50):
And I also think the onus is kind of on
the UFC to build new challengers at thirty five in
the meantime, like you, Harrison has bought them time because
noon is if she's gonna come back, that's a no
brain or of the next fight. Now you have to
look at some of the fighters, like a Norma Dumont,
like a Luana Santos, some of the more interesting names
at thirty five to try to where's your.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Yeah, please no. But I don't think they should have
made it not Vieira. I thought they should have realized
with the short window of amount of times she can
make weight, get her into that title fight right away,
try to set up an Aman to fight. But I
think you that's interesting that you had chef Chenko to
the list. Maybe there are a couple fights that that
would make it worth it to make this wait a
few more times. And who knows what we'll be saying
out of by about her at the end of it

(52:31):
if she defeats them all. But are we going? What
are we going? Here? Are we going? Harrison by mid
fight submission, because that's where I'm going.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
I'm gonna go third round. T Ko okayo, no.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
One, tko is panya like that.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
Elbows on the ground can take people up there.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Harrison's ground pound is real good.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Okay, you got you gotta you got an upside picker.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
No, I'm going Harrison's second round sub But I think
if it gets into later rounds fourth and fifth, that's
where I think Pana can really be dangerous.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Okay, all right, uh let's continue on, don car This
is your non title fight, featured fight, and it will
come in the middleway division. We almost saw it in Mexico,
but then that damn country made Joe pipe for sick
Kevin Kelvin Gastolon. So it's not like this is a
great fight or anything. Guys, But did you see Joe
Piper kind of doubled down on the Mexico thing, but

(53:17):
also said I.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Was unbelievable to me that He was like, I don't
want to fight in Mexico City. I want to fight
in a great place like Newark.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Yeah, which is just.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
I mean, why don't you just go fight in some
and just And he's from Philly fighting Philly is a
lot nicer than Newark.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
They're both pretty news Like.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
If you want you want, Newark smells like, why don't
you wipe the backside of my balls and then tell
me about it, because that's what Newark smells like. Philly
is not that bad.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
No, see that you interested?

Speaker 6 (53:46):
No, but I still want to double down that Philly
is pretty terrible.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Philly.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Philly is gross, dude, p Philly is.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
So much Have you been to Nice?

Speaker 4 (53:52):
I haven't been in a while, but Philly.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Is so much better.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
I f with Philly, but it's it's normally it's gross.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
It's definitely. It's got some part but also has some
nice parts too, Like y'all, y'all are hot. Newark has
no nice parts. You know, you know the nicest part
of Newark is leaving.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
That's fair.

Speaker 6 (54:07):
I'll agree with you on like, no one goes to
Newark unless they're going to production.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
I mean they bowed Shaker Stevens his whole ton of
walk down the arena twice for that.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
All right, guys, it is hold.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
You've been holding. You've been to Newark? Yeah, you've been
to the Prudential Center. Ye, yeah, I've been to. I
saw Kimbo Slice fight James Thompson there. That's a true story.
And Gary Shaw, do you know what the food was
in the back that he catered? Hot dogs with no
buns and chocolate chip cookies. I swear to god, hot
dogs with no buns.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
And track suit full track suit on. Gary.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I was like, this is not like the other spreads.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
I would love if we could get Sky for room
service diary Jared Shaw.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Did I tell you the story? So back then there
was this I used to live in New York City
at the time. There was a Circuit City that was
in Union that Union Station Union Square, Sorry in Union Square.
It was Circuit City's all. And I wanted to take
pictures at the Kimbo Slice event. And I had a
friend of mine who I got credentials to go to this.
We totally scammed these people. I went to Circuit City

(55:10):
and bought like a thousand dollars camera and we were
like super careful about opening it. He used it for
the whole event, then repackaged it, took it back in,
didn't even have to pay a restocking fee, and I
got all those photos for free.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
What a cheater.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
And a lot of places used have great, very last
return policies where you could just get stuff, use it
for a week, and.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
I was expecting to have to pay the restocking fee.
They didn't even charge us. Not right, how about that stealing?

Speaker 4 (55:36):
He's like a rental fee. Basically, just needed to use
it exactly.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
You know, I don't know if Mexican American Kelvin Gaslom
is fighting for that nation in this matchup against American
Joe Pifer, but Pifer has won six to seven. He
did bounce back from the decision loss to Jacker Manson
by getting Mark Andre Barrio. Is he a legitimate future
title contender? And is this the fight against a name
that gives him some momentum because he doesn't seem to

(55:59):
have moment him right now? Where are you out on
the Joe Pifer? Do you want to be like Joe Pifer?

Speaker 5 (56:03):
Every Yeah, everybody should try to be like Joe Pifer
if they're going to be on a Contender series.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
And hate ars.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
No, I don't love my parents very much. Shout out
to Alex and Ileen my parents.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
What's up with the parents? Comment?

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Oh, he has no relationship with his parents. Yeah, Joe Pifer, Yeah,
I think your dad is abusive.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Follow mma. You never know who's dating who.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
I have learned to not take interest in their lives anymore.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
You have like no idea which guys are actually cooks?
And you know I could get we could do a
patriarch podcasting.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Yeah, you know, Uh, the fighters have taken the joy
out of getting to know them. He won't agree with that,
but it has been a boay for me.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Is the is Joe Pifer evolving, escalating to the area
where taking him seriously should be our focus.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
I think top ten is certainly in the conversation for
Joe Piper championship level. I think we have to wait
and see because I don't think we've seen enough yet
to really make that determination. And I thought that the
Hermanson fight was a big eye opener because kind of
fell apart as that fight went down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
And Hermanson tough and gritty.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Yeah, very much.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
So in those are the fights you learned the most
from too, not to mention training with Sean Brady every day,
Pat's Appatini's on a roll right now, Like that's a
really good camp with with guys that are on runs
right now. So I think that no pun intended with
his trip to Mexico City.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
But yeah, I think that right now we're gonna exactly
we're going to see. I'm getting sir, I came, I
came out of my shell.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
So I'm talking about Farrow's navel all mental. She has
an audi chuck in this. You don't remember chucking this show?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Okay, back of memory, hold it.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
But yeah, I think that Piper is a guy to
watching this division. I think that eighty five is coming
around finally. It's like it's taken some time, but we're
starting to see a lot of good challengers coming up
at eighty five. I think Anthony Hernanz is a guy
that could fight for the title at some point in time.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
He's really good.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Well, the Fluccinator needs uh needs to prove a little
bit after that last performance.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
According no, well, he was great in performance.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
He was super sick too, if you recalls antibiotics in
the whole nine yards so well you.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Had questions about that. Luke, break my heart gently here.
It's a rare time. Kelvin gasol in one half of
the UFC two thirty six comin event, which was the
greatest fight experience I've ever just lathered on my show.
I just put it out of myself like butter right,
it was great, like ky Joe like yeah, well, yeah, well.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
I know about the Atlanta event because I've said this
before and people getting mad at me.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
There there you.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Were there with jedsh Me and I didn't even know
wack trash guy.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
Yeah, but the fight between Max and Poortier at the
time felt kind of like an afterthought.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
It did.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
I remember tapping somebody joing fight. Well, we'll probably not
talk about Max versus Dustin two ever again because of how.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Good awesome fight. But like Izzy versus.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
Gastolon was, like after that fight, it just felt like
you had a Thanksgiving dinner.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
It was twenty five minutes of sex, which I've never
I've never enjoyed.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
It'd never gotten there. You know what I mean, I
don't even want to do it for twenty five.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Seconds, But I'm really asking you, is Kelvin Gaston's a
rare time right now? I was coming off a win.
Shout out to him. Who was it against Kelvin? Yeah,
he's actually right.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
I think I know who it is. It was Chris Curtis,
Wasn't it was the most recent.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Why No, it was d Rod Wasn't.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
Oh, you're right, thought about that fight. And look there's
where he like showed up ten pounds overweight.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Yeah, it's like his way of handling it. Look, it's
probably not gonna go well moving forward. It hasn't gone
well before that. Can he upset Joe Pifer?

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Here?

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Is there? Like I mean, like he's still like thirty
two thirty three ish, I think he's thirty three. He
still has a big left hand, but he doesn't move
his head, he's slowing down. All those things are negative.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
The issue for me is eighty five. He's just not
an eighty five. I mean, he can fight at eighty five.
I know he's got some wins at eighty five. I
just don't feel like he's gonna do his best work now.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
Now he might say, well his best word was at
eighty five, though definitively.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Yeah, but there's a real ceiling to it is the
problem for me. Whereas I guess the counter to that
would be like, well, he went up against Sean Brady
at seventy and he got rolled in that one, so
maybe the movie is back to eighty five. But PI
for to me is like a real eighty five, and
he's young. It's not like fighting Chris Wideman. He's angry,
so just much longer in the tooth at the point
where you're fighting him. So, you know, I understand why

(01:00:00):
this is one of the situations where like there should
be a weight class between seventy and eighty five if
we're actually taking athlete health seriously. Although I get that,
you know, there's business considerations involved, but listen, he is durable.
He's certainly much more experienced than Joe Pifer, There's no
question about that. And at eighty five, he's not going
to be drained by the weight cut. We think. Now,
if there's weight issues tomorrow or Friday, I should say, well,

(01:00:22):
then then it's a you know, a completely different ballgame.
But I just feel like the firepower of Pifer and
the and the I don't know. I think he's probably
much more athletic than him should be enough.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Is this the bad period of Gasoloin's runn where he
starts getting kocked out cold?

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
That's what I'm concerned about, right like. That's that to
me is the big worry. And I think the odds
for this are a little bit off. I think Pifer's
I got five to one favorite and the guy is
good and tough as GASTLM. That's hard to see because
I think that means people believe that Gasolin is in
the era that you just mentioned where his chin is
gonna start finally getting chill.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Love him. He gave a lot of fun fights. He
doesn't make weight a lot, but I mean he just damn.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
He's kind of like the ultimate underdog fight.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Here's competitive in so many losses with the last pick
on tough, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
And then moves up to eighty five gets the championship level.
I mean, you gotta at least respect Kelvin Gaslam for
everything's a cheating.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
This version of Kelvin Gaslam at two thirty six tour
false that was a championship version.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
Yeah, championship level.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
I mean except for that takedown attempt.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah, that one he hit really fucked himself. But so
many guys have done that, I mean even good ones.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Steve her Segret Oh fucking Steve Men's banham weight main event,
women's bandam weight cole made event, but a very good
men's bandam weight fight on this card. Two fellas riding
a seven fight win streak, one of them Mario Batis.
Still people don't love what happened in the Josie Although fight.
The other former Belator, mm A world champion and PFL
refuge Patchie Mix, who is riding seven fights in a row,

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all against like the best names available for him, and
a lot of that by finish, by the way, including
that dominant decision went over he Kyogi Horagucci guys, this
is a gift to the UFC band weight to vision,
getting PATCHI mixed for nothing. There's no there's no trading
Mighty Mouse for this one. What do you think of
this Mighty Mouse Guru podcast collaboration post pay per views?

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
I haven't watched it yet.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Is good? Well, they're going to start it. It's a
new old ship. It's it's, you know, two worlds collide.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
You know what I'm I'm going to be an optimist
about this and just say that I feel like Guru
will restart to respect the fighters a little bit more,
getting the opportunity to sit and be with with a
former fighter.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
And I wonder what Guru's reaction was to Big John's
John Jones story about the official I think it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:30):
Could be like an enlightening period for him. Luke, what
do you think of that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
I haven't thought much.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Okay, Luke, PATCHI mix is a gift for this division.
He's in his absolute prime at thirty one. We've always
said of people not in the UFC, he might pomp
for Palm be the most talented guy out there, even
with that whole hum performance in his one PFL fight
against In the rematch, the unnecessary rematch with Maga mad
Maga Medov Luke should we be expecting because he's got
a tough fight, a guy on a seven fight winster.

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You win this, you're gonna get catapulted to the top.
Are you expecting instant title contention for PATCHI mes in
the UFC.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
With a big win, sure, yeah. I think with a
big win, absolutely, that's on the table. Now. I don't
know if he'll leap frog Corey Sandhagen, that's a little
harder to say. He does seem to be the guy
that's in the cappardcy to that point. You even heard
Morob say, hey, I think Corey is probably the next guy,
although you know, Sean probably has got his own sense
about all this, you know. But the point being is

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if you're we don't see a lot of people signed
away from other organizations all that often anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
And so I mean we just saw kayas Sakura. There's
been a couple I like that the UFC's putting these
guys in big fight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
There was a time in that was happening like fairly regularly,
and it just was a big to do when itever
it did, and they're a little bit rarer these days,
and by the way, a lot of fans won't even
know who he is. It's going to be insiders telling
that story. But I just feel like, you know, if
he can come in here and do what he did
at the Belatore Bantamway Grand Prix was which was one
of the most electrifying tournament runs I've ever seen in
all of MMA, I don't know how you can deny him. However,

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as we've said before many times times, he had the
one PFL fight where he looked not like all that
great against Mecca med Mega madeoff split decision, but.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
He put to sleep in the first fight. To be fair,
he did.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
He dies, That's what I mean. That run of that
tournament was insane. But then this part of it, it's
just hard to know exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
It's not easy to get up around, don you know
what I mean? With two ends down with it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Yeah, certainly you can say he's going to be motivated
for the opportunity. How about that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Give me an od line on this.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
I think his minus minus one eighty five or right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Plus one fifty on Bautista.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Uh, Aaron, is it fair? What people? I mean? Bautista
is on a seven fight win streak, but Joe Zilda
was a step up from the black Shears boom Kellhers
that he had been beaten on this build. Does he
warrant the people that have just sort of said, ah,
if this guy he's boring.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
I think if you look at Batis's previous fights, they'd
been pretty exciting for the most part. The Aldough fight
was kind of a self preservation angry at him. I
know people are mad, and they shouldn't be really be
mad at him, like I mean, if you don't like
the way that that fight was judged, I mean, be
mad at the judges.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
I thought that that was a very close fight.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
So it's not one where you really, like I thought,
although one, but I mean, it's not one where I'm
gonna like get all upset about.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
It is a hobby one that you're gonna get all
upset about.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
Now makes sense to me too, like I and again,
I had all the winning that fight. I had all
the winning that fight. I told I told him in
that after the fact, But apparently I do need to
go back and watch that one. But regardless of that,
like I interviewed PATCHI mixed yesterday, and you mentioned, like,
I guess the question you just asked. Luke was like
can he be next in line for the title? Like

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my very suggestion that Corey Sanagen should get the title
shot before him if he wins on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
He looked at me like are you Are you an idiot?
Do you not know who I am?

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Are you a moron?

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
You don't think that I should get the next title shot?
Like that's how confident he is. Like I was backstage
with Patchi in La earlier this year when Morob and
Umar fought, and he was like in such a good mood,
and he was like, yeah, you know, I've I've trained
with both these guys. I'd love to see, you know,
my level compared to them in the UFC yesterday he
was like a different dude, Like he's dieled in, Like
he he came in with like a chip on his
shoulder when I spoke to him, and Uh, this is

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a guy that I think is gonna make a lot
of noise in the UFC. I think that if you
were to rank the bantamweight division, you probably put him
at like number three right now based on what we've
seen from him. Bantamweight division was no joke, Like that
field was really good. You got Sergio Pettis, you Gucci,
You've got I'm forgetting, I'm forgetting Stello, Like that was

(01:06:27):
a good field of phantam weights and the guys that
he's beaten, like, they're no joking. He beat a lot
of them in pretty dominant fashion. So I really like
PATCHI Mix. I think that he is going to be
a title challenger here in the UFC, and that he's
one of the best bantam weights in the world. And
I'm looking forward to seeing this fight against Batista because
I think it's an interesting entry level fight for him
into the UFC.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
He can be a big leap though, if he gets
to win, especially if he signed a guy on that
wind streak. Look who's more likely in mixes bed to
gain UFC gold first him or Tatiana? What like?

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Which of the more likely?

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Who's you said? What?

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
What does it have to do with a bed?

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
They share a bed? Like, it's not I'm not I
didn't make this news up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
You're just framing mer I.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
He may have my sleep app different sleep divorce.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
You know one third of American couples are sleep divorce.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
You watch those old shows.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
I love Lucy her separate sea.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
I could save a marriage.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
You know what. Uh yeah, I have to ask my wife.
She wants me to get a seatpat machine. I might
have to get that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
No, don't do that, be like you just take the
Gary breckup. Just charge it and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Gary Brikers playing, all right, What you need to do
is ground yourself and also take testosterone. Yeah, okay, don't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Forget about cold plunging every money that can help with this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Yeah, fucking hell. Anyway, it's got to be him. It's
got to be him. She had a shot and it
looked like she came well short of it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
Hold on, if Wiley moves up and fights chef Chenko,
if there's an interim title, it could be her versus Vernu.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
For all we know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
But that's an interim title.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I'm not dismissing it. I'm not dismissing it. Possible she
could do it. You're asking which one I think is
more likely. I think it's probably gonna be Patchy because
he should get a win here, a potentially really good one,
although I do think Bautist Bautista could very much play spoiler,
but probably him, probably him.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
I wonder if Bautista will be more too aggressive in
this one to try to like And.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
I've heard lots of stories about him and Morob in
the training room and what it looks like when they
go out each other. It's kind of interesting. He knows
Morob's weaknesses better than anybody else. So it'll be again,
maybe Sean wins this weekend, maybe Corey wins the next one.
Who knows, But like, if you do get a Pachi
and Morob matchup, it's intriguing for that reason.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Indeed, Indeed, on that one, let's go to the final
about of the pay per view main card and that that,
by the way, takes us to the welterweight division Viacente Luca,
Kevin Holland, I don't hate this fight. It's it's gonna
be action, It's gonna be fun. Is there anything at
Steak here? How would you identify that?

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
It?

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Is this just a fun banger to kick off the card?

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Aaron, Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
I saw Luk yesterday and say welcome back to the
Motherland because he's from New Jersey, was born, yes he is. Yes,
dad lives fifteen minutes from the hotel that the fighters
are staying at, so shout out to Vicente and the
New Jersey contingent of his life. But uh yeah, just
a fun fight, right, Like, I think that Holland is
a different animal. Lot one hundred and seventy pounds, I
think he should stay at one hundred and seventy pounds
and listen, if his goal is to make as much
money as possible, take fights as often as you want

(01:09:19):
by all means.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
But I think that he's a new cowboy.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Well yeah, but I think that his level lot of
one hundred and seventy pounds is so much like his
ceiling is so much higher than it is at middleweight.
And uh, I think that he's going to give Vicente
a lot of problems with his his length in this fight,
like he has done with a lot of one hundred
and seventy pounders, lost.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Four of his last six though, Yeah, it's how many situations?

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
Who are the losses to?

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Near Ritter, Michael Paige, Jack Dela medal.

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
The page, John was like the champion, so wonder boy
boy and it was split.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Wonder boys up before that, Yeah, brought before that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Listen. He can fight up, he can fight down. But
I agree with it, Aaron, He's got a. I think
a very high level that he can access, and I
think his best chance of accessing that easily at one
hundred and seventy pounds.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Luk not young anymore, lu K thirty three years old.
It felt like there were health.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Issues, yeah, the brain issues.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Yeah, the brains game, which seems absolutely legit. But he
is coming off a win against Garimbo, He's won two
of his last three. I'm not asking you if there's
a run here, Luke Thomas for Luk coming up, but
how do you feel about this matchup? Do you think
he can get the win against Holland.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Holland can fight in disappointing ways, so you can never
really know count him out. And I thought Luke, I
thought he was really done and that's really not the case.
But this is Holland's fight to lose. Holland's got the range.
Remember Holland at at both eighty five but definitely at
seventy can crack This guy put out Joaquin Buckley's lights
up at eighty five.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Previous people forget that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
People forget that. Dude. He can, he can thump so
and he's got good jiu jitsu and he's absolutely not
afraid the question is like, is he going to fight
in a way where he's dialed in and not like
fighting down to the level of competition.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
It's up to him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
It's up to him. But like I think his well,
you just look at like what he's got on tape
on paper, You're like, there's a lot to work with here. Man.
This guy maybe not a champion, but we can beat
good fighters. He should be Vicente Luke.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Yeah, it'll be an interesting one to kick it off.
I kind of like this pay per view, I'll say,
I kind of like it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
It doesn't have that wow factor. Yeah, the wow factor
is missing, but quality fights and for our first weekend
in a month of nothing but bangers for main events,
it's a good way to start.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
It really is. And that takes us into DraftKings Pick
six because there's more than just the car the main
bout's going on in terms of who's gonna win or lose.
You can put a little cash shola on there and
bring some in yourself. When we look at the DraftKings
website and look at the over unders here, it's all
the combined points we know the categories of like take down,
top control, strikes, everything going on statistically, we love the

(01:11:53):
guys that finish early, the guys and girls, and the
guys and girls like that go the distance and pad
the stats. Nobody pads the stats more than the very
active Morab de Valishvili, Luke Thomas Right, No, DraftKings has
his significant strike total at seventy eight point five. You're
gonna have to go high or low over under basically
on that. What are you thinking heading into this?

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
I'll take over. You'll take the over on that. I
think he can absolutely again, we even said it. Whether
or not we consider it stalling or not a matter
of debate, but like he's going to be applying something
at all times. If they're locked up, like and even
on the feet, we'll do it too.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Morab at seventy eight and a half. Aaron chronol Maalley's
seventy two point five total significant strikes is the over
under for DraftKings here on this pick six. If he
has a big day, I feel like this is going
twenty five minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
I think the over on that. I like the over
and a half.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
Yeah, all right, interesting, I mean the only thing the
only downside for both those is if this fight ends early,
like by Ko or something.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
You're done.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
They're not gonna land.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
That in three rounds. Indeed, Kayla Harrison sixty eight point
five on the significant strikes, but she can put together
an early stoppage.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
I might take the under all yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
I also don't forget about Wang Wang tongback on that one.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Everybody went to the next highest over under at sixty
two point five. So at over to Pick six dot
DraftKings dot com for more on the rules, all of
that presented by DraftKings. It's pick six and you already
know that the crown is yours. I'm definitely adding, uh,
I'm definitely adding morob to my Pick six teams.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Oh well, I don't know if you can. Can you
can for that? For that DraftKings promo? Can you consider
prelim card?

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Absolutely did that Josh Van Bruno, Gustavo, the Silver fight.
That one's got. That one's got barn Burner written all
over it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
I believe it does. Let's speak about it now, the
from the preliminary card all the way down to the
early prelimbs. Aby, give me a storyline you care about
on this card?

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
Well, I think that Kata Harrison, I think is the
big story right and below the main car okay, blow
the main card.

Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
I liked this Chaos Williams and Andreaus Gustaves and fight
kind of came together because both of them kept losing
opponents along the way. Gustustin was supposed to fight last
weekend at Trevin Giles. I guess got hurt when he
was trying to do his weight weight cut and then
you know, Kas Williams needs.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
An opponent's part of a disastrous night at the Age.

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
Yeah yeah, And they had signed Chaos someone else to
fight Kaos Williams and they had a medical issue of
some sort and he had to get pulled out. So
the fact that these two guys are coming together because
Andreas Gustavson is like a madman like that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
This guy is like a Viking.

Speaker 5 (01:14:13):
He's just gonna move forward, and Chaos Williams does the
same kind of thing, Like this is gonna be a
fun fight that I'm glad kind of came together at
the last minute as a band aid solution for both
these guys.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
I'm with you, So that's gonna be a fun one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Uh Luke, Chaos got bone themed last time Brabo choke.
You think he bounces back in a big way here
against Andreas Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
He should. I think he's got enough. I think he's
got enough things going in his favor to probably get
the win here. But honestly, just if I can that Bruno,
Gustava Da Silva and josh Van fight. Josh Ban fought
four times in twenty twenty four. Now again it wasn't
without some blemish along the way. But he's just twenty three.
He's already fought in twenty twenty five. This is his
second fight of the year, three fight win streak. I

(01:14:50):
like this guy staying active. He gets better every time.
He's got a ton of natural ability. Josh Van at
Flywait Flywait needs some fresh prospects. You know, they're pulling
in guys title shots. You know, great, they got, they
got a look, they got some choices, depending what happens
later in the month between Menil Cop and raw Dog.
But nevertheless, nice to get some guys on the younger
side of the twenties out there doing some impressive things.

(01:15:12):
Still in the prelim card where he should be. Yeah,
but the featured and by the way, and by the way, uh,
Bruno's coming off of a loss, but before they had
like three performs of the Night Bonus.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
He met virtuoso copl Cop gave it to him, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
But Van is maybe not at Cops level. So this
is a very intriguing fight.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Does this feel like Joshua Van's getting the push? Is
that why this could be the future prelium according to Wikipedia?

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Maybe.

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
I think that Joshua Van is a guy that's coming
up pretty quickly in the flyweight division and as long
as he can keep making the weight like it seems
like he's had some problems keeping the you know that
weight down, so we'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
There's also Quillen Sell killed on the very early prelims
like he's a guy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Oh whoa Long Island, Lukey, just.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Like it was an Australian prospect.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
Australian quillin Sell Killed is really good at lightweight.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
The man is twenty five years old from Pinjara down
on the Is that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
Where your dad's from, Luke?

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
I think I think he's from Western Australia, Solka, My
dad's from Melbourne.

Speaker 5 (01:16:02):
I think he trains in that camp with with Erse. Yeah,
I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
How blessed are we that UFC decided not to put
this fight as an APEX main event, and we just
get it on this undercard. Sergeate Speedback versus Waldo Cortes
a Costa. Look that's our.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
I actually feel like Sergei Spivak has improved his game
enough that I got a lot of respect for him.
And you know, Waldo's Waldo Cortes Acosta has done okay,
but you know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Dude, Waldo's riding a four fight wins. Yeah yeah, yeah,
but like you know he said Ryan Span to hell, he.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Did, he did. I just don't you know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
All right, is there Long Island? You got sleepers? Find
me a sleeper on this card.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
I just want to Kanov.

Speaker 6 (01:16:43):
Yeah, but I mean the guy he's going against, by
the way, has a ten inch reach advantage on him,
Bredston Heibero.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
But him, that's like.

Speaker 6 (01:16:50):
That's wins that I wanted to point out. The fight
that Aaron brought up, Chaos Williams versus Gustavson. Chaos Williams
not the greatest takedown defense did get two takedowns in
his Contender Series fight. I could see him wrestling him there.
That being boring, but on paper that does seem like
a banger.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Interesting stuff. Right, there is there any who's gonna make
a leap? I mean, let's can we we can Ariana Lipski.
Don't call her that now, the Silva Silva taking out
Wang Tong, that's a decent matchup. That's going to be
the feature.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Out of her.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
What's the what are the odds on that one?

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
She's like minus four eighty or something like that, the
big face wing.

Speaker 6 (01:17:25):
Yeah yeah, she's minus five fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Yeah yeah, not that not that competitive.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
Well, the Silva's riding a two fight losing skid, but
two decent names in kariny Silva and Jasmine from Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Did she marry that she changed her name?

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
Uh, Steve Silva. Maybe it's Paul de Silva.

Speaker 5 (01:17:43):
I don't know, but if she if if I get
to the ground, she's she's pretty crafty with her submissions
in her arm bars.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Yeah, Luke, don't call her out. I already saw Wang
Tong lose.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Okay, that's true. That the whole joker bit doesn't really
work for me either.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
By the way, when you lose like that, she bounced back.
I mean she's she looks legit, but she's got to
continue to rebuild you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Obviously, his phenom on the feet. But you're right, yeah, tested, this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Has been absolutely fantastic. I want to talk shop for
a minute though with you a bron Man. You are
at every pay per view card you get there Monday
to kick off the week. You are living the life.
How what are you in a little over one year
at Sportsnet?

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:18:19):
Since uh, I guess I started January last year when
Dec was in Toronto, so that was, you know, good timing.
All right, yeah, so but yeah, it's been awesome sports
and that's great. Shout out to my producer Dan Fernandez,
God does an awesome job.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Yes, and follow him on Twitter.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
Yeah, he's a great follow And whenever he's uh, he's
with me during fight week. He is always putting out
cool videos of things that are going on behind scenes
and clips of the interviews. So shout out to Dan.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Oh yeah, we can check out your work all over
You're at what at Aaron.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
Bronstetter on at Aaron pretty much everywhere?

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
All Right, all right, I need something big from the UFC.
I need I need some resolutions. Can we get the
Jones aspinall thing figured out? Please?

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
Well I'm pretty bummed out we're not getting Eli e
versus Islam.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Like they this man, this man, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
I'm pretty bummed out saying what needs that?

Speaker 5 (01:19:04):
That is the best fight you can make skill wise
right now in usc it's just a ball.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
Of sex and it was there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
I'm not hating on it right there.

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
But I also think though, you know, Ilia versus Charles
oliveraz about us can't miss of a fight as you
could book in mma, like, is there any chance that
if I could be bad, that is not going to
be crazy for.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
As long as it lasts. So it's going to forget that.
I mean, that's that's not a bad consolation prize.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
I hadn't had an experience with him, but I did
want to throw an rip out to Jordan Braen, who's
been getting a lot of love, who passed away, an
innovator in the m M A podcast, radio space, among
other things, a brilliant mind that I've read about. Luke,
you have a long history back in the day.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Yeah, I don't want to talk about it here, Okay,
thank you, No, I don't mean I I'll I'll probably
talk about it on my live chat tomorrow, but.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Hey, tune in, folks, bring your cash.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
But terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible situation. But Hm easily one
of the most brilliant mind into all of combat sports
I've ever spoken to, and it was great to work
with them. I was actually looking up old emails that
he sent me yesterday, so I don't want to talk
about it. It's a little, it's a little, it's a
little hard for me.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
I got you. I got you also r I P.
John Brancus of Sports Science, and Mike mckellum, the body Snatcher,
and Leo Santa Cruz, Dad Jose al right, he died.
We know we had cancer, but I don't know if
that is the I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
That's officially how you went.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
Yeah. But well, while we're ending this on the worst
possible I had to. I had to. I had to
send a tribute.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Do you have aids? A week?

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Clean?

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
We're gonna, we're gonna, we should clean the palette here?
How many only fans subscriptions are you up to these
days of just UFC fighters?

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
Zero? Luke from what I would get, guess, I mean, not.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
My not my scene. All right, what about you? Fu face?

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
I'm amazed, asked the question.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
The ever smelted delta, Is that where you're going?

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
With that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Uh, Luke Thomas, you know we have a couple of
minutes left here to just talk about the know the great,
like you have anything to say? You look mad. I mean,
we have a new merch website, Morningcombat dot Chop is
where you can grab your merch right friggin now. Okay,
you want autograph posters, you got them all right, check
that out. Some of these items are limited edition. Shout

(01:21:17):
out to Long Island Luke on the back end, yeah,
and Average Joe among others. We were back, We're back.

Speaker 5 (01:21:23):
I showed you guys on my phone that the posters
were sold out, and Long Island Luke's like, no, they're
not sold out. I was gonna give guys major props because, like,
the website came out and I don't know if it's
because I know, people hit me up said that they
were sold out, and I was like.

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
Wow, shout out to those guys that they're massive.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Yeah, we're just lying.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
We're just so we did move everyone out there who
are supporting us in this manner and want to represent them. Okay,
thank you so much. We definitely definitely appreciate that. Thank
you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
I actually bought that same shirt. I believe for my
friend Dan Tom.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Who shout to contenders Tom he's a good guy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Yeah, yeah, I feel real bad, you know, bringing down
the mood. You want to talk about breast implants and
women's of a mad atle Not really.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
How well do you sleep in hotel rooms?

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
Not bad?

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
Actually I do okay because I have a white I
have a white Noise app on my phone and I
use that because usually you hear all kinds of noises outside.
I thought it was like ten to fifteen last night,
or like ten thirty. It was pretty amazing because I
had to get I don't have drugs. I can't do it. No, no,
I mean prescription drugs. I understand, But I mean, yeah, well,
what's the what's the hang up?

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Anxiety? I have to sleep now with ear plugs in
a nose strip and now and the masks and the mask.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Wow, that's the eighties equivalent of when you had like
the bracest so bad that you had like the root.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
I mean it's like literally like the only thing missing
is like shackles, and you could take me to Guantanamo bag.

Speaker 5 (01:22:43):
I mean, that's truly what I have On airplanes. That's
a no go for you imagine not possible. I got
a Pluto pod, and I'm loving that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
If I'm really tired, and this used to happen with
showtime every once in a while, if I'm really tired
and I have a first class seat where I can
like really lay out, I can maybe catch a couple
of z's. But if they've got me back with the
fucking the Long Island donks back there at the north shore,
just catching just catching crab lice and shucking COVID.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
Shout out to Northport Long.

Speaker 6 (01:23:11):
Like a baby.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
I bet you are highest balls with all that marijuana,
and you're telling.

Speaker 4 (01:23:15):
Me I'm also like five eight, so on an airplane,
it's not a big deal. That's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
We would go on the road. I would come back.
You go back to your family. Wrecked as ship at all.

Speaker 5 (01:23:24):
Always travel kills me. I don't think people like get
the like the rigors of travelers.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
I didn't understand what people would be like, oh, I'm
tired when I travel when I was like a teenager,
and be like how.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
Just sitting No, No, it wrecks your ship, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
You could.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
I landed in Vegas last weekend and I just randomly
had a hangover for a day and a half without drinking.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
That's how it feels.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
That's what it feels like, what the crushed. But those
you know, those are First War problems because we're living
the dream.

Speaker 5 (01:23:48):
The three of us fe like, especially in my forties,
like once I hit my forties, hold you forty three,
but like it really started to effect live in a.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
Dream, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Everyone was like, Oh, it's different when you get over thirty.
Not really if you take a forty.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
Oh yeah, everything just sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Everything.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
The programming reminder, we will not have a show this Friday.
Right you're watching the Friday episode right now. Thank you
to Cuervo for all things. UFC three sixteen pregame preview.
You can follow this show right there. But can I
get ten seconds of your excitement level? On Saturday's top
rank boxing card, Keyshawn Davis making the first defense of
that WBO lightweight title against Edwin Delis Santos at.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
The scope, I'd say a solid eight out of ten,
pretty high, pretty high key.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Shawn told me he's going to walk through him and
knock him out, and Edwin's the puncher of the matchup.

Speaker 5 (01:24:33):
Let's go, what's with all these like tune up fight
guys winning this year in boxing yet so I've noticed
that all these guys that are like expected to win
so they can set up the next fighter losing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Also, it's a nightmaver. It worked out for UFC. They
had Kayla and they had Juliana.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
They have a different level of control over the fair enough.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
But the plan didn't fail. Like they had him. They
could have just put him together and they didn't. And
now they are McGregor Chandler. You know, it didn't really
work out for them.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
But yeah, it's been a wild year in the box.
It's going to be a good fight this weekend. I'm
ready Abdula Mason and the Comaine.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Eventy if you've seen this kid, yeah, the guys.

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
Guy's got amazing footwork.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
It looks incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
He's exciting, he's thrilling right there. I had one other
box thing I would have made. Oh do you see
Tayo Fine would just pulled out of the any fight.

Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
Yeah, eleven million at the table, thought that it was
made and then suddenly it was off.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
But that would have been in reod though. That is
not a red fight.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Stop you stop putting fights in red, please, please, for
the Love of God.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Puts some fight night UFC fight night fights in riod.
All right, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
You could do that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
That's why I get more active crowd than the APEX.
But although they make it changes, right, make a change?

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
What have you heard about? That?

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
About what the instruction? That could have been under contruction
for months?

Speaker 5 (01:25:42):
So they're building it out so they can have, like
I think it's like triple the amount of people that
they have.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Like a thousand, two thousand and three thousand.

Speaker 5 (01:25:50):
They basically wanted so that you can walk up the
box office and buy tickets there and there's gonna be
enough for people because and they also want to accommodate
family and friends and things like that too. So there
even working on it should be ready, I think relatively soon.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
I mean Zuck will rent that ship out in a heartbeat.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
You yeah, fuck him?

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
Do you think he should have join that im parabol
Imperial March before the main card of the main events
when the whole Yeah? Do you think he should replace
Kid Rock or Tucker Carlson in that lineup?

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
Place Elon's out?

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
So I.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
Pretty simple out.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
For X for Threads is this is very equivalent to
when bg L was on the outs on the shot
reddit sphere and then suddenly like was sharing all the
secrets of the inside and stuff. The is b g
l uh. I don't know if you were first at
Homeless Cats or not, but I will say that it

(01:26:43):
is reminiscent of that. It's very interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Wow, all right, we can this is this is finished.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
A good run though today we definitely had a good
run today. Thank you to Quervo, Thank you to you
the viewer. Thank you to one Aaron Bronstead Or of
Sportsnet just one of the nicest gentlemen in the world today. Aaron,
do you have anything else you want to pitch?

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
You got How can people get your work on fight Night?

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:27:06):
Just on all the different social channels. If you go
to Aaron dot Report, it's my website. Would they just
links to all my stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
That's what I'm talking to. Breeze right for the great
Aaron Browns setter for Long Island, Luke, No sena, no cita,
Pitch your Pitcher, We Bullshit Podcast.

Speaker 6 (01:27:20):
Join me on main Card minute this weekend Full Card
watch along, Thank you very much and buy some merch
Morning Combat Dot.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
Shop Morning Combat Dot Shop Shout out the Gaff by
the way of the main card minute for lt AB
and the old BC over here and the Deer and Ken.
Ken's back, baby, can it's back?

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Yeah, this has been morning combat. Enjoy. We love you.
Take care of yourselves.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
Thank you, Thanks Ken.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Yeah

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