UFC 319 Pregame Preview: Dricus Du Plessis vs. Khamzat Chimaev Presented By Cuervo® | Morning Kombat - MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Revelation.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Look at us now, timpted Jesus, ohs will be too.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
It's time to bang.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Oh yeah, let's beg to me. It's a big one today, Thursday,
August fourteenth, of the twenty fives. And you've stumbled in
on Morning Combats UFC three nineteen pre game preview episode.
It's LT, it's BC. But don't bury the lead. He
may look tiny on camera there, but he's big in person.
How about UFC Lightweight Matt Fravola, the steam rolla himself.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I mean, show him the shirt, show him the shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
We got, we got the ray long.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
They'll hook you up.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Look at the look at that fucking shirt that.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Look at that gangs, look at those nipples, look at that.
Oh my goodness. We are going to get you all
set up for Saturday's UFC three nineteen pay per view,
live in direct from Chicago and a main event that
is like a thirty five out of ten in ratings.
Trickis Duples making the fourth defense of his UFC middleweight
title against unbeaten Hamza Chamaia. Before we get any further,

(01:33):
when I say that fight, what happens next to your body?

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Matt? I get the tingles, the tingles in my ball sack.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
All right. You may remember, of course, Matt Frivola's great
visit to our couch back in Jersey City for our
room service diary, so good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Right he tried to Bill Cosby. It was terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
It was pretty terrible, right there, Brian Campbell, of course,
Luke Thomas, welcome on in one one disclaimer, Matt. You know,
I don't know if you're familiar with pregame preview, but
not only do we get down with a little Quervo tequila,
but we expect real talk.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
Can I tell you I've never liked that catch line ever.
I think it's been dumb since you've done it.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
I thought that T shirt was going to sell. And
then r J Dunkel Gangbang was like, yeah, we didn't
move in, not a single No one wanted real talk,
like and then people.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Got mad at us and said it was sexist too.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
It probably is, to be fair, but hey, welcome on in.
You can like the show. You can certainly subscribe on YouTube.
Welcome to everybody watching on the DraftKings Network or if
you're an audio only donk like that. We still appreciate you.
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Speaker 5 (02:55):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
That is pretty much down to I think one or
two left, so we've been moving them. They won't be
here for septem Remember, hopefully we can get mister Fravola
outfitted more in this MK bullshit, right, yeah, once we
hook you up last time right now?

Speaker 5 (03:06):
No? None, No, we didn't give you any gear.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Sean Brady got a bomber jacket. This guy got nothing.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, we did. Well, that's what we gotta fix.
We'll fix that. We will fix that. Okay, Long Island, Luke,
we got to fix that all right quickly.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Let's say hi to the fourth member of our team.
What a what a Long Island sausage fest we got today.
He's the son of an Australian, he's our producer, director,
bong enthusiast, and of course the host of the main
Card Minute podcast. Luke Nosita, Bro, you must have a
heart on from here to Huntington over what's going on today?

Speaker 7 (03:35):
I'm hyped up for this episode. Welcome Matt, good to
be here.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, that's Long Island guys. We got to stick together.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
That's it. Do you ever see that guy walking around
the street panhandling or no, you've never.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
No, no, not yet, no yet you'll see it too.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah under a bridge, fucking old drivers.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
That's wild. All right, Yeah, thank you very much. Also,
I wanted to remind you that today's episode of Morning
Combat is presented by draft Kings, and of course with
Draftings heredy, the crown is yours, thank you. Luke Thomas
was crowning like the King of England, but he went
to the restroom for the third.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
That's a different kind of crown, read for the third.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Time this morning, and then told us some gross details
about it. All right. We always kick it off by
getting a little saucy here from our fine friends over
at Quervo Tequila. And of course this segment, this show,
this feeling in spirit is brought to you by Quervo,
and now's a good time to enjoy the tequila. That
invented tequila, So why don't we do that? We are

(04:30):
back with the Devil's reserves the camera, yeah, which is
a wonderfully awesome piece of machinery.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
Now, mister Fravola has said to us, you know, listen,
he's not a big drinker. We're not gonna make them.
There's no peer pressure. We always we always encourage drinking
in moderation, except you and me, which we don't agree
to that, but everyone else I enforce it. However, he's
gonna play ball. He's gonna have one shot, which I
think is the appropriate amount.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
As we are setting this up, because you know, Luke's
got to put mountain dew in there and maybe a tampon.
But as we're saying are you in are you in
camp now or are you expecting to be in camp?
What can you say about the.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
What's going on in the Laft Steamroller?

Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah? You know, I'm training. I'm always training. I'm I'm
coaching a lot right now, but I'm always training. You know,
if guys got fights coming up, I'm always stepping up
and sparring. I'm feeling good. You know, I'm ready to
start camp. And I told him that I'll fight anybody
at Madison Square Garden. You give me King Kong, I'll
fight him. So I'm just prepping for November and hoping,

(05:33):
hoping to get some big fight news hopefully soon.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Let's go to all those steamroller fans out there in
Long Island and beyond. Shout out to Billy Q. You
guys should tear it up and take cooked.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
All right.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
The devil is done right here. I normally don't support
devilish activities, but the devil, I mean, just.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
The here, just the smell. For just a second, you
can smell the spice on it.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Yeah, it smells like Melby smells delicious.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Okay, it's a little oddly specific, but all right, all right, Luke,
I don't know why you need a chaser, but hey,
I just like being your friend.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
You can get this, uh can lye? Luke?

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Can you still get this one at the shop?

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (06:09):
That is available, that one right there?

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Class alright, So we do a particular kind of toast here.
It's the one that I learned from from my South
American in laws. Yes, so Abajo Alsandra toast.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Toast tyo Bobajo go mmm oh yeah, smooth as the
day is long that that was smooth.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
What I'm saying, I didn't chase alcohol.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Wow, I just tasted success right there. All right, yeah,
let's go. I'm a borderline TK homployee right now. All
this is great?

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, it makes a little weird, all right, all right.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
But I'm ready to get you fired up. We always
open our talk of a pay per view for pregame
preview here by really talking about how we would grade it,
and we have critical when it's time. I don't think
this is a week to be critical, Luke Thomas, right
off the top, give me a letter grade. We already
know the main event is of fifteen out of ten,
whatever you want to call it, top to bottom. Though,
what are you giving with King Green pulling out this morning?

(07:02):
So no Carlos diego for Hay to fight? We've got three?

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Does hurt the card a little?

Speaker 4 (07:06):
We have three late.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
Editions, Definitely. I was excited for that fight. Those those
are two guys I've had on my radar for a
long time, and I was excited. I wanted to see, uh,
you know, who would come out in that one up.
But you know, King Green pulled out. I guess undisclosed.
We don't really know why, but.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
That's called for vola. He would have filled in on it.
You know, if he wasn't taking down this stequila right now,
he would have filled in.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
At one seventy maybe. Yeah, what's your what are you
walking on right now? I'm like like one seventy eight,
seventy nine not too big? Yeah, yeah, right right where
we need to be?

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Okay, all right, by the way, shout out to the
new dad. I did want to mention this. Oh yes,
just like Muhammad Ali you named your so cash. Just
watch him bash this one years old? Congratulations, yes, thank you?

Speaker 5 (07:48):
You sleeping I am. He sleeps great. You know, he
sleeps great, he eats great, he's a happy kid. And
now he's starting to like walk around, run around. It's
it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, when they get ambulatory, it's a new ballgame.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
When will you introduce the jiujits to him?

Speaker 5 (08:02):
I've already had him at the gym, like he grew
up in the gym, you know. I was. My wife
works a real job, so she goes to the city
like three days a week, so I would just bring
him to the gym with me and.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
I ray watch him. Yeah, that's grea.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
It was well. I bring him in the morning before
Ray doesn't get there till one.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Uncle Morale will take care of him.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
It's all good, yeah, real quickly, twokey. Yesterday at it
mine's my daughter. I want to call her. Told me
she wants to take jiu jitsu.

Speaker 8 (08:31):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I took her to swim camp.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
I took her to slim camp and they did a
jiu jitsu demonstration from a nearby school and she goes, Daddy,
I want to take lessons.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Is that because your wife rolled with Roxanne Motaferry.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
She didn't even know that.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
And when we told her, I was like, you know,
I used to do this, and she just didn't care.
She was like no, no, yeah, but interesting, I want to
go train that thing.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Her dars is going to be amazing. Let her grade
for three nineteen with the additions by the way of
two Ultimate Fighter Finale fights. And the dude who fought
on the Contender series in onon like three nights ago.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yes, what's his name, Kiev Kaiev?

Speaker 4 (09:01):
What's the first name?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
It was Bayong Bayanngar something like that.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Let the rhythm take you over. This guy is gonna
fight twice. This is a Cowboys serony shit, what do
you give the grade to the card?

Speaker 6 (09:13):
I think because the main and I know you're asking
for the full card, which I do think there's quality on,
but I think that the main is so outrageously good
and the comain definitely one to really care about.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
I'm gonna give it an a. I'm gonna give it
an a.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
This is the main event I've cared about the I mean,
I was interested in Ilia versus Charles. I think we
all were, But this is the one I've had my
eye on. This is the one to me that's got
the most capacity for something I don't know, memorable, different, elevated, crazy.
The sport's built off of oh shit moments, and I
just feel like this fightah, I mean, don't you feel

(09:50):
like that matter, Like this one's got the potential to
unlock something different.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Oh yeah, especially because the middleweight division is just booming
right now. There's so many like awesome contenders, and uh,
this fight. I go back and forth. You know, Hazmat
is so good. You know he's undefeated, and that's what
you want out of a title fight. You want an
undefeated challenger who's gonna go in there and challenge for
the title and uh DDP. You know, he's so good,

(10:17):
he's like unorthodox and I'm excited to see you know,
I've I've I've counted DDP out too many times and
I've stopped doing that. I think, I mean, I think
he's gonna go in there and uh and stop the
hype train in Hamza.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Out early predictions. By the way, the champ will be
the betting underdog Long Island. Could you relate to us
the current DraftKings odds on this main event.

Speaker 7 (10:45):
Yes, we got plus two ten forty eight for Homs.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Okay, look, we totally understand why Hamza, who eight out
of ten times in his UFC career looks like fucking
the unstoppable villain Jason who might be the pomp for
pound king. He also has looked human at times. We
mentioned that Uzman fight, the Gilbert Burns fight. He also
is inconsistent at being consistent as a fighter health wise,
visa wise, all this shit that's kept him to a

(11:12):
point where he's fought once in a year for three
of the last four years. Is it, though, with all
those facts, is it disrespectful of the champion that the
odds makers are like, yeah, but this might end in
two and a half minutes.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
Well, I gotta tell you, I don't think it's crazy
that he's the favorite. I don't think that that it's
that m I mean, that's not a huge, huge favorite,
but that's a pretty.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Bit one given.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
I mean, this is the part to me that gives
me some trepidation about that it's like this, there seems
to be like a lot of unknowns. To have the
odds in that particular way is a little bit surprising
to me because listen, is Ham's not gonna get him down? Yes, yes,
he's gonna get him down. Is he gonna get him
down multiple times?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Probably? You know.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
But I think anybody who's telling you, oh, this fight's
gonna go one way, I don't know, man. I think
that confidence is just misplaced. That's the point's trying to make.
There's fucking chaos written all.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yeah, we missed the I missed the boat on DDP
on the Rise, I thought Robert Whitiker was going to
completely embarrassing and obviously his opponents underestimate him to the
point that we love that video that came out earlier
this year of Robert Whitaker on Outusani's couch podcasting and
they're like, my god, he's slow, he's awkward. He's the
best ship fighter that's out there. Like when you watch
the tape as a fighter, are you more apt to

(12:24):
think he's not legit? He just is finding a way
to win these fights in the most legit way every
single time.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Yeah, he's so unorthodox, but he's effective. And that's the
key is you know, he he even said it. He's
not the best striker, he's not the best wrestler, he's
not the best scrappler. But in mixed martial arts, the
way he puts everything together is effective. And he's strong,
he's a gorilla in there, and he's confident and uh

(12:50):
and he's got the cardio and for five rounds. I
think that's the real thing in this fight is that
the later the fight goes, DDP is going to keep
getting stronger. And then Hamza his cardio has always been
in question, but he is, you know, training with the
new strength and conditioning was it Sam Calveo training lab?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Yeah, so and you see Armin's there, Pico's there, So
I think I think Hamsud's definitely you know, prepping for
a five round war. But again, is he gonna uh,
you know, work change his fighting style for five rounds?
Is he gonna go in there in the first round
and maybe not just shoot right away and and kind

(13:32):
of you know, uh ease into it. But but we'll see,
you know.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
We're gonna see. And that's obviously the central.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Can I pick his brain for a second, I would
love it.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
Can we actually like pinpoint what d DP is good
at or why rather why he has success?

Speaker 5 (13:48):
You mentioned one thing?

Speaker 6 (13:49):
He is just so physical, right you look at the
past he hit on Robert Whitaker, that's Apolo, the Tozy
pass just you know, you're just you're just driving down.
He's like these like you know, these like grinding kind
of hardcore passing like that, not mobile passing.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
That's one, right, he's just a gorilla.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
But the other one that seems to me is I
just look at stuff he does. Even when he's fumbling,
he just kind of keeps trying shit, you know what
I mean, Like he just throws stuff at the wall
and just sees what sticks. But because he just doesn't stop,
eventually something just breaks through, you.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Know what I mean? Oh yeah, do you agree with that? Sessman?

Speaker 6 (14:23):
Like pinpoint for me what you think he actually does well?
Why does he win?

Speaker 5 (14:28):
I think he's so unpredictable, and it reminds me of
Mirab a little bit. You know, they're they're in there
and they I don't even think they know what they're
doing until they do it. There'd at all times, yeah,
full speed, and they're I think they're just the best
at fighting, and that's like natural. You know, they have
the skills in each discipline. But and then when they're

(14:48):
in there, the way they mix it up and the
way they just fight is and is why he's the
best in the world.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
And the way he carries out a game plan seems
to be pretty special. Like when you see his coach,
what do you know?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
His name is very underrated coach.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Like it feels like, tell me if I'm wrong that
one of his greatest things is that adaptability. Were when
the fight gets close and you're not sure which direction
it's leaning, he finds the right move, the right count
of the right path to take it. There is that
like something that's hard to like put into words, like
a clutch gene or something.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Yeah, I think it is. It's clutch and and he
kind of he just trusts his instincts. Yeah, he's got
those instincts, you know, he was maybe born with them,
but he also dialed him in through his training, and
his coaches look like they're really preparing them the right way,
you know. Do you hear him on the on the
Countdown show kind of just saying, Oh, Hamsas is just
gonna wrestle, just gonna wrestle. His striking sucks, just like

(15:42):
like talking so much smack about his striking. And I
thought that the his u ddp's coach was kind of
playing a mind game, like trying to get he knows
that Hamza's coaches Homsat's gonna see that sure, and then
maybe Hamzat's gonna come in there and he's going to
strike with him, and he's not gonna do what he
does best, switches wrestle. So you know, I feel like

(16:02):
ddp's coaches maybe playing a mind game. They're trying to
get Hamzat to like prove everyone wrong that he can strike.
And I like that.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
I like that way of looking at it.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
Also, ddp's mind games might be the best in the sport.
People just cry when he talks it's insane.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
That's true. But also when we talk about the connection
between fighter and trainer. How much do you think that's
fueled by the fact that they're willing to open kiss
each other on camp.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
That's definitely a close relationship.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
I mean, how close are you and Ray Longo is
my real question, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (16:30):
BC tries to kiss me every episode. I have to
fight him off.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
I'm not kissing a long ago on the list.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Yes, thank you, thank you very much, right there, so
I think, I mean, I don't want to say it's
disrespectful to make him the underdog. Odds makers said it
how they believe, and Hamzad is such a fucking rocket
right now that you don't know what's gonna happen. But
look at the run DDP is on unbeaten in the UFC. Definitely,
we could show highlights from the Darren Hill fighter from
earlier fights and be like, damn, he looks you know,

(16:55):
not Elye in that moment or whatever. But he makes
the awkwardness work for him. Four consecutive wins over current
or former champions, and if he adds an unbeaten Chremaiyav,
we are talking about him separating himself more from the
pack of to be fair the great middleweight champions in history.
But Luke, is he taking it too far? When at
media Day Duplessie said, I'm this is the win. I'm

(17:15):
one win away from being in the middleweight go conversation
we do? I mean, come on, we gotta respect the
spider here, Like, let's let's not like.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
He would be in the conversation for where he fits
in in the izy wide men like at that pointed
to be like a Izy wideman DDP thing who now
can move in that space, but Anderson Silva space, Like,
we're not even fucking close.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
So we are certainly talking about somebody who is a
top five pound for pound guy is really showing you
he's at the peak of his powers and he's a
growing brand. I would say, do you get the feeling
like he could be a pivotal player for the UFC
on the from the idea that they're pivoting now to
Paramount and CBS and it's going to be all in
some ways a whole new market they're attacking. Do you
look at DDP as one of the pillars of the

(18:02):
current stars that UFC has uh not.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Yet, not yet, but with a win over Hamza, I
think that will definitely get him there. But he's got
a whole country to back him. And you know, the UFC,
they love that. And you know, he's he's charismatic, he's
he's fun to watch, he's fun to listen to. I
think he goes out there and he finishes Hamzad, he's
gonna be, you know, in that next tier.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
All right.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
And I made this point too, liked becoming a star
takes a while. Like I can't tell you how long
it took Anderson Silva before he really became a household name.
He became who you understand Anderson Silva to be. It
did not happen overnight.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
It took se Do you think it's a single moment
or do you think it's a combination of the front
kick to belfour.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
It's a series of small moments that one moment ultimately
is the straw that breaks the camels back. So there
can be, yes, you there can be that one moment
where you're like everything changed, but there has to be
a significant amount of build up to get even to
that point. And did he if he hasn't had that
yet to the point that this is why I totally agree,
because you know, beating Sean Strickland in Australia. That's nice.

(19:07):
That's not nothing. That's a tough fight to win. But
to become a promotional darling, to become a name, you
gotta win fights like this one here in Chicago.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
I mean that Georgia dirtthole. Jed Meshu the Second, who
is on some sub radio with me yesterday shout out
to Dennis by the way, says that if DDP wins
by finish here, he's gonna put hm number one from
pomp U pot Like yo, slow your damn he did,
but at the same time he was day one shit
on DDP. On the flip side, Luke, you start, this
is what we do to DDP. If he wins, he

(19:39):
goes way higher here in the middleway, you know, history
and everything. What does Hamzat become with a first round finish,
I mean, or any win where you're like, holy shit,
he's as good as he has teased that he might be.
Is he because he's already I think a bigger star
than DDP. But if he's a champion, and if he
finishes the champion to do it, what is he on
Monday morning?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
M I that's a tough one.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
I'm hesitant to say the face of the UFC, but
something right behind it, Wow, something right behind with that.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
You know, he's already the boogeyman, right, you know, nobody
wants to fight him. He's he's scary, he's and he
backs it up.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
You know.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
He goes in there and he runs through people. He
takes people down and then he chokes their face off
like that, breaking Whitaker's jaw with that choke that. After
that fight, I was like, all right, I'm a believer
in this guy. He's have you ever seen anything like that? No?
I have not. And then I mean I remember after
that fight, like I go to jiu jitsu practice and
we're starting to like work this, like real Nick, you

(20:38):
don't even need to get onto the under the neck.
You know, Hamza just showed it. You can just choke
people's face and break their jaws. It's it's insane. But
he goes in there and finishes DDP. I think he's
going to be one of the top. Probably him and
Ilia will be the top top.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
That's what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Because Ilia is a little bit further ahead in terms
of big promotional wins, right because he iced Max, he
iced Charles, he iced Vulcan. Those are three big names.
Hamza hasn't had a chance to beat names like that
or people who are in elevated positions like that. Robert
Whitaker was pretty close. But now you've got a champion.
Now you've got a freaking champion. You ice him, dude,

(21:18):
it's a different ball.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
You think about. We haven't had a guy like him
as a UFC champion star who is an obvious bad
guy but gets cheered like he's a good guy. I
don't mean he's a bad person. I mean he presents
that he's the wolf with the crazy beard. He made
the joke with Daniel Cormier and that great clip that
came out today of chickstick terrorists, like he knows the
foreign gangster you know role that he's playing here. Yet

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almost like in nineties WW when Stone called Steve Austin
becomes the biggest babyface by being a bad guy. It's
like he really has that right star at the right
time moment that everyone has makes everyone have an emotion,
whether you know, love him or you're scared of him
or whatever all that. But he has been saying things
mat and We talked about this on Monday Show that
he thinks he could be the first UFC three division

(21:59):
champ and I know, like, you gotta win this one first,
Like we've had a lot of inconsistencies, but you know,
he wants to go down and fight the winner of
Islam JDMM. He wants to go up and fight the
winner of Poton versus Anklaya Part two. Do you think
the division is too red hot at middlewaight for the
UFC to even allow that to happen in the near
future if he wins.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah, definitely. I think he's got one five is booming
and he's got contenders just lined up, and I think
that sets the stage for him, you know, or for
whoever whoever wins this fight, DDP or Hamzat, whoever wins
this fight. You know, there you're gonna have challenger after
challenger of you know, very good fighters, and you're gonna

(22:37):
be able to build a legacy if you can run
through all these challengers.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Real quick, Luke, tell me who the winner of this
fight faces, either guy next Bob prob MM. Is it
depend on Imovov against Ohilio or is Imovov already behind
the eight ball because our dr is has is on
a sexy run where he'll fight anyone at any time.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I think there's a good chance it's already are it.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Is it a better chance for DDP or does Tamaia
kind of reset the division where it could be anybody.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
I think what's gonna happen is they're gonna wait and
see how big the win is for either Bahalio or Imovov,
and to the extent that that's not a boring decision,
to the extent that there's something electric about it, that
person will get the bump. But if it is just
an ordinary win, which is a good chance it could be,
then I think they're gonna they're gonna go to the bullpen.
Then they're gonna pull up arty are.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
I wonder like, if tamaiav wins and you reset the
stable now because you know DDP fought a lot of
those guys, does that somedthingly mean that would occur out
to sign Yeah, Strickland or one big win away from
being right back in the title picture, just because imagine
if you're the UFCE and you're selling Tamaia versus I don't.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Think those guys are right back in the title picture.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Okay, I thought they win that Rich Franklin spot where
there were one went out one name.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
We didn't bring Land. Definitely, isn't I.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Met Rich Franklin spot where they can call you at
any time.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
I know what I'm saying, Like, I don't think Strickland's
in that spot. I don't think is he's in that spot.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
I think if tamiav wins and the beef between them
and if Strickland gets a win in the next couple.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Of months, then you're right.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
We didn't mention Anthony Fluff your name aggressively inserted his
name a little off topic, but I wanted to bring
it up from a fighter when we as journalists slash
super fans see the way he ragged all the Roman
deletes a like, I don't see shit like that happen
in competitive elite main event fights. From a fighter perspective,
were you even like, holy shit, what he just did
to that man?

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Yes, definitely, because Roman is a beast. You know, he's
a very intelligent, strong fighter. But Fluffy looked unreal and uh,
he's a dog, and that's like the end of the day.
Fluffy just he loves to fight. He comes forward and
he can fight you anywhere as jiu jitsu is so good,
is grappling so good? You know? And then his he
just he goes in there to beat people's asses and

(24:40):
that's what you love about it. And uh, he could
beat anybody out there. And he's in that title picture
and I'm excited to see what he gets next.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Hell yeah. As we transition out of the matchup Long ISLANDUK,
do we have the video of what a lot of
people on you know, Detective Mma Twitter, we're trying to
decode of that handshake between DDP and Tamaiva during fight week.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
Nah, we don't have the HDGE.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
We don't have the handshake. Did you guys see that
video of when they approach each other. There are two angles,
one from the uh the what's the name of the
documentary series embedded and then one from the other side.
The first angle did kind of make it see like
TREMAIAV was taller, but it's just kind of the angle
the video. But is it is it wrong to look
in there and be like, oh, well, GDP looked a
little scared. I mean, you know that's kind of BS.
But I'm not five Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
It's always funny. You know when you see your opponent
fight week, you know, you you shake your shake their hand,
you know, you tell them have a good fight week,
and uh you kind of size them up a little bit.
And I think that's what they were doing. They're both
shaking their hands, sizing each other up a little bit,
and uh, you know, in the end of the day,
it doesn't matter. They're gonna both step into that case
and they're gonna fight.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
You know, the media just likes playing up that w bullshit.
Luke is like enough, you know, I.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
Just I just hate Like, do you think he's scared?
I'm like, I don't actually know.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Luke also won't let us talk about him and may
power couples when when when fighters, you know, like, I'm still.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Not don't I don't care who is dating who.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
I'm not over the Cortez or take a break up,
like I'm still in that relationship mentally. Are we ridiculous
for that bullshit?

Speaker 5 (26:04):
A little bit? A little bit, all right.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
I'll accept that though coming there's a reality TV side
to this sport.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, if you have the entertainment palette of a toddler.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yeah, okay, Well back to this matchup. Obviously, Luke, the
central you know, tension when it comes to the actual
x's and o's is not only the wrestling of Tremaiav,
but particularly the first round. I don't know if he
saw that stat on Twitter where they showed how early
in the first round he took down every single name
for the first time and it was like thirty seconds,
forty seven second, fifteen seconds. It's insane. What can you

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say about Dricus Dupless's takedown offence ability on the ground
to try to make the case that him getting finished
in round one is not going to happen on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Oh, that's a tough one. So I'm just gonna say
something up front.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
I think Tamaiav might have the best wrestling shot in
the UFC.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I mean the speed, the distance he.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
Covers, the level, how low his level can sometimes get,
and even if he doesn't get the takedown, he's able
to consolidate the position, you know, with a lock thereafter
right like they'll stuff it on the first go and
then he comes up and then you know he's starting
to ragged all and it's really quite impressive. I just
don't think DDP is going to stop that Ddp's been
taken down three times in the UFC, and I looked

(27:12):
at all three of them on the train ride up today.
One was Darren Till, one was Derek Brunson, and one
was I forget the other one Whitaker. That's right, the
Whittaker one is the one that's unlike the other two.
The Whittaker one was he took him down stepping forward
off of he got underneath the punches. The other two
they caught kicks and that's how they got him down.
But there's a common denominator there, which is the guy

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is offensively open to such a degree that he makes
himself available to be taken down with.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
His percentage though, does he has he been in the
fight where he's been spammed with the takeow?

Speaker 6 (27:42):
Not necessarily No, So Hamzad is unlike a lot of
other dudes. There's not a lot of Hamzats out there,
So to me, it's like there's one. That's one consideration
that I just think DDP is just going to make
himself so open that he's gonna get taken down. The
other thing is, if you look at how he tried
to get up off of underneath Brunson, he does a
lot of like like almost Marcella Garcia stuff where he

(28:05):
tries to push past the elbow and then lift his
leg and then kind of hoist himself up.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Have you seen those before?

Speaker 6 (28:11):
Huh? Yeah, where they push on the elbow to kind
of sit up. And that can work on like lower
level guys, it doesn't necessarily work on like a really
good UFC fighter. So like, I think he's going to
struggle for a few minutes underneath. I genuinely believe that.
But goes back to what we were talking about earlier. Okay,
his first attempt at getting up fails, his second one fails.

(28:32):
He just keeps trying until one thing breaks through, and
I think eventually it will.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
It's insane that DDP can be that big for the
Middleway Division and be a tank and really have an
insane cardio gas tank to compete with anybody an outlast anybody.
But Tremaia should challenge that, especially if DDP gets taken
down a lot but can get himself back up. What
is your confidence level in Ddp's ability to stuff the
shot or at least change that. Take that away from

(28:59):
Tremiah enough or we can turn that back into a kickboxing.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
You know, watching that countdown, I really think DDP is
going to be prepared for that wrestling early. I think,
I like you said, Luke, he throws those punches and
then he gets shot under. So I think maybe maybe
you're gonna come out and see DDP a little bit
more relaxed in the in the first round, kind of
waiting for Tamaiav to to spam that low, that low

(29:22):
double leg that he shoots, and I think he's going
to be prepared for it. But I also think that
there's no way that Chamaiav's not going to get him
to the ground. Chamaiav's going to get him to the ground,
and uh, DDPS should should be working on getting back
up to his feet a safe way and not giving
up his back because I think that's the key, is
being able to get up but not giving up your back,

(29:44):
because I think Chamaiev will jump on that back and
make him pay. But as long as DDP can keep
getting up, it's turned into a dog fight, bringing into
those later rounds.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
That's when if the cardio debate flips aggressively against Tamaiev.
Of course, there's no question about that. How deep is
the submission Arsenal in Chremaiah, who certainly is a rear
naked guy, and it's the benefactor of how quickly he
gets you not only down, but in a bad position.
Do you does he Do you believe he's shown enough
that like this could be a problem area for the
champion too.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
I mean, you don't want to discount it. He doesn't
need a million different submissions, Like I don't think he's
the submission guy that Habib is. Habib's got chokes and
limb manipulation right, and had triangles too, remember.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
That, sos mean just like Tomiov.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
So he had like the Kamora on Michael Johnson, he
had to choke over the jaw against McGregor and then
he had you know the essentially if he wanted the triangle,
he could have had it on Justin Gaetchee.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I don't think he's that.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
I think, you know, he's got more bread and butter,
high percentage stuff. The thing is, I just can't get
the Kamara Usman fight out of my mind, you know
what I mean? Where it's like, if you've got good enough,
if you know you gotta be careful about planting your
hands and where your chin is when you're trying to
build height and build to build your base, you know
there's some sort of better than I do. You gotta
be careful down there. But it's not like it's not

(31:05):
to me like chremaia has such finesse that like any
mistake there is fatal. I actually don't think that's quite true.
That's why this fy is interesting, right, because to your point,
he's gonna get him down like it's gonna happen. But
after that's a little bit of a mystery because Tramaiav
is deadly, especially through transition. I think that's where he
could get in trouble, right, if he tries to scramble up.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
In the wrong way or something.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
But it's not like he's got lights out submissions. I
don't think that's quite right.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
But if this turns back into a kickboxing match, if
DDP is successful at showing him you're not gonna finish me,
I'm starting to stop the takedowns. Where does your confidence
in Chimaiav's cardio end? Because you could make the argument
that he didn't have enough to look as dominant in
the third round against Usman, that he maybe left the
door open a little bit, and he does has had
like double COVID attacks. He once retired like he's been

(31:54):
through the through the mill physically. You don't know until
you get there in rounds four and five, Right, what
are we going to see? Are you confident that even
after a bunch of failed takedown attempts, that he's going
to have that tank to keep pushing.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
You know it?

Speaker 5 (32:08):
See it depends on how hard he works on top.
You know, when he gets the takedown, he's controlling position,
how much ground and pound he's doing, and then how
fast DDP can get up and and you know, way
on Tchamaiav's gas tank on the ground. So and then
once you get up to your feet after the grappling,

(32:29):
being able to have your your technique still and stick
to your game plan, and then Shamaiah should be shooting again.
I think I'm curious to see how CHAMAIAV looks on
the feet against DDP, because DDP his style is so
un orthodox and it's hard to it's hard to fight
unorthodox guys. So it's going to be interesting for sure, who's.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
The weirdest striker, either in training or a fight you've
ever gone up against, Like just had a hard time
getting a beat on him.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
I'll say al Jo al Jo is so on his kicks,
his like his length, his switches, stance is nice. Aljos
striking is very underrated. And uh, I think I'm excited
to see him against Artaga in Shanghai.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Luke, what does that stand up going to look like
when we have those exchanges? Because I feel like the
more DDP keeps his bat off the matt back off
the mat, it obviously increases his chance of winning. I
think it increases the chances that this fight between two
alphas will be like a legit Fight of the Year contender.
That's why we're this excited. This could be a fricking classic.
But Luke, how does tremaiav strike and compare with that

(33:33):
of the champion.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
I'd say Tremaiav's is deadly. He's very powerful, but it's
a little bit more bread and butter, a little more traditional.
He's got a jab when he wants it. But part
of it goes back to like, Okay, you've got all
these skills, how are you going to use them? For example,
like he had a bunch of skills he could have
used in the Gilbert Burns fight. But then just fought
like a fucking you know, rabid raccoon or something, you

(33:55):
know what I mean, Like he just threw caution into
the wind.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
In which case these questions.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
That's why this one keep saying like I've made this point.
I don't.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
I'm not saying that what's gonna happen on Saturday is
what I'm about to make. The comparison to which was
Dan Henderson versus Shogun Huo one one of the most
insane fights you'll ever fucking see in your life. But
one thing I'm trying to point out is those two
getting together. It just brought out a greater hole, like
it unlocked something. And part of it is, you know,

(34:24):
do I think I think Hamzat is more technical and
has a jab should he elect to use it, That's
what I'll say. But you know, fucking door knocker still knocks.
Drag is duple. See, he just keeps knocking on doors
until someone answers, you.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
So he's got a ddp's got a solid calf kick game.
That could be that could be something that he's got.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
Have you ever noticed he's got I mean his knees
like bow in when he when have you noticed that
when he stands? Yea, his knees kind of bow in
like a little deer. It's like and then part two
is okay, if your team tremaiev, you know you have
to expect expect the blitz from him at some point, right,

(35:05):
just the standing blitz a that he is. What would
you say would be a good way to handle that?
What would you recommend? Given Hamzat's skill set wrestle.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
I think he's gonna he's gonna time those punches lowers level,
shoot that double leg and wrestle with him. I think
TAMAIAV knows you know, his path of victory is through
his wrestling, through his grappling, and I think he's going
to do that. You know, he's gonna at least try
to and do it for as long as he can
with just the question is can he do it for
five rounds? So that's what we're gonna say.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
It looks like Long Island Canelo, right, Long Island Canello?
Oh shit, what about that for a nickname? Or maybe
the Huntington bad Boy.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
I think that's I'll take both of them.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Was the Huntington Beach.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
That's why to Tito right there, uh man, man, man,
I love this fight.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Action.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
We're gonna see a lot of action in this We're
gonna see.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
A look, how are you betting this one?

Speaker 7 (36:00):
I took DDP of plus money.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I think that's probably good bet.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
That's my pick. That's my bet. I mean, we're gotting
into the picks now until I see him not make
that championship adjustment against a guy who I don't want
to say his questions in the cardio, but like, you're
gonna have to give us the answers. We need the answers, Homsa,
we need you to be able to fight your balls
off in four and five against this guerrilla across from you. Legitimately,
I'm still backing the champion plus money. You gotta man.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
I've been back in Duple's see this whole time thinking
everyone's sleeping on Jamaiva. Now fight week is here and
I'm like, I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
You go first.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
Yeah, Well, I've been going back and forth all the time.
But like I said, I I can't pick against DDP anymore. Yeah,
I always pick against someone, especially at plus money, the underdog,
Like this is a pick and fight for.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Me, And does it go to the distance if it.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Yeah, I think it goes a distance, goes.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
A distance, is going to be a fight of the
Your contender gonna be sick. I'm gonna go Chamaio because
Bars the Boars had the cold cut guy. Dude, he
is crazy, right, it's.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
A different Boars. Do you think Chamayav can beat him
if it goes distance?

Speaker 4 (37:10):
What about long on? Look, what's a Chamayav decision?

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yes, but I wouldn't. That's a little that's tougher.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
That's tougher, Tamayah, we can't hear you, sorry, TAMAIAV by
decision is plus five hundred.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Ship Now that might be the five dollars take a
chance right there? That is crazy because you can see
it if he's hurting DDP and dropping.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
I mean I have I don't know he's gonna win
the striking.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Battle against DP. Ultimately, could they fight.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
I'm gonna go back on. I'm going to pick DDP.
I'm gonna stay with it. I'm going to pick DDP.

Speaker 6 (37:43):
I think that I have too many questions about Chamayev's
longevity in the course of a fight.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
All Right, I currently have Hamsa Chamayev, who's undefeated at
number ten on my CBS Sports Palm rankings. For whatever
that matters or what it's worth. I've got DDP. I've
think got three or four, No marab at three, d
DP four. Or if Hamza does the damage to DDP,
I mean, doesn't necessarily have to be a first round submission.
But let's say he wins the title and fucking shows

(38:09):
you what he's all about.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Is he a top five pund for ponger undefeated? If
he goes in there and finishes DDP, I think he's
definitely in the talks top five.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
I don't know top ten, I could.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
I mean we got Ilia, we got Islam, we got Morob,
and we got DDP. I mean those are four damn studs.
But if you disrespect and Pantosia and if you pull
but then if you pull the DDP out of there,
does Hamzat slide in and almost take his spot? He might?
He might, Because that's no answered the questions we don't
have answers to. I guess unless he submits him in

(38:44):
the first round, then it doesn't answer all the questions.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
But I don't know about my pick. I really can't.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
This is distressing you, This is making you.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
This is so tough because I just feel like I
don't know, I don't know, I can't I don't really
have a firm pick in this one.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I'm gonna stick with DVP, but I don't.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
See you that upsets and say pulled Kelly Kapas from
the Alternate Senior season on staved by the Bell and
gave Tory and the black leather jacket. I mean that
was so lame, right, But.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, you can just tell him he's a fucking nerd.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
That's okay, all right. Anything else you guys want to
say about the main event, I'm just you know, I
got a phoner as Ryan Bader or I'm sorry, is
that as Jake Jackson.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
Wall Hager who never fought like would he would? Like
two times in belt or and it was like, I
give him.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Credit, he fought a few times. Chris stops porzingis wants in,
by the way foot two NBA player christops porzingis thirty
years old.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah, former Washington Wizard.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Former Celtic. He wants to taking him, former New York
Nick he wants an m m A fight.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
That's some skyscraper strove.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
Ship you know who also is training out in I
think in Boston now Taco Fall. He's training seven to
seven guys.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Yeah, not for like serious stuff, just.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Like yeah, just to funk around. Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
I'm thinking now that we're gonna get into the co
main event. I gotta I gotta break into this crystal.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, I'm gonna break into it.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Yeah. Yeah, let's do that.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Right, you're gonna tell people about your hemorrhoids?

Speaker 4 (40:00):
No, no, no.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
No, you know that'll put a cure to that, right.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
I mean, Luke, how are you doing over there? You
put that drink through college? Yeah, I mean that's that's
all you got in return, right.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
Because you're fucking using ship from like when we were
drinking beers as teenagers in the woods.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Do you think the show is?

Speaker 4 (40:19):
The show is Dirthole's uniting Matt God.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
Bless you here, cheers, I'll have more.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Get in there, and I opened this one or not?

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Please do?

Speaker 4 (40:34):
That is the Blanco, which is fantastic.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Yes, it is the Blanco.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
All right, we are going to transition, of course, to
our co main event and what it's not lov Sorry,
I'm gonna start to slur my words here. Who of
course I had to pull out late but Aaron Pico's
long away to UFC debut is not only a fight
we need to see, but now the idea that this
is an audition for a title shot is not just

(41:03):
an idea. UFC matchmakers love this guy. It was a
gift for twenty eight year old Aaron Pico to fall
out of the PFL sky in the UFC to go yep,
We'll take him and make him what he has the
chance to be. What unbeaten late replacement Laren Murphy is
that annoying out you know what I mean at the
end of this division, who's obviously trying himself to crack
the title picture. He said, Lauren Murphy, he's going for

(41:24):
the finish, by the way. But Matt, what does UFC
potentially have in former beller toward MMA star Aaron Pico.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
I think he's they got a future star. I think
Aaron Pico is the real deal. You know, he wrestled
his entire life and then he fell in love with boxing,
and he's got beautiful body work, and he's he's got
the wrestling to always, you know, have if he needs.
But he's got a tough fight right now with Murphy
because Murphy Murphy's another undefeated guy, so technical everywhere, is

(41:55):
such an intelligent fighter, and it's definitely going to be
a tough challenge for Pico. But you know, we're gonna
see if if he uses that boxing or if he
you know, goes to that wrestling.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Luke Pico probably should have already gotten his prove it moment.
He probably should have fought Patricio Pipple and either in
Belait or PFL right, which would have told us a
lot more about him. For as much as we harped
about those early knockout defeats and the submission and his
pro debut in the wrong division, he's eight and one
in his last nine and the only one was that
Jeremy Kennedy fight where he was he was gonna fight
until his shoulder fell off, right, That was an injury.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
And they were yanking on Remember that they were yanking
on it between rounds.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Do you feel like, whether he wins or loses, that
the hype is justified for how much we're looking at
him with the ripped up abs, you know, looks good
in a suit. We're gonna get to his trash talk
in a minute. Like I don't think UFC is wrong
on being fired the fuck up.

Speaker 6 (42:48):
That I'm glad the UFC is promoting him like he's
the next big thing. In the event that he wins,
they can turn around and be like, hey, this guy
is great, let's just fire him to the front of
the line. So, so I want to be clear, I'm
not in any way suggesting that the UFC is like
doing something wrong by pushing him as hard as they are.
It's a good idea, but we should be very clear
here do I have because you were there at Beltore NYC.

(43:09):
I was there at Beltore, NYC. Do I have concerns
that that guy is gonna show up somebody who's just
overwhelmed by the moment making bad decisions.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Or or those knockout losses in a row where he
was or haunted by the coast in love with his power,
he kept his chin out.

Speaker 6 (43:21):
You know, well you got to like four and three,
you know, we got to a real bad place all
of a sudden. No, I think that guy has been fixed.
But that is a very different question than show me
on Pico's resume, anybody who is even half as good
as Laron Murphy. And the answer is, there isn't a
guy he has never ever, ever ever thought a guy

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this good, not even close, and not only that. You know, listen,
if you fight mosts are it's a tough challenge.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
But you're not.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
You know, you don't have to go find him, right,
He's gonna wrestle you like they're gonna make contact.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Murphy.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
He is a touch and go guy. You have to
go get him. That is not fucking easy to do.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
Now.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
It's on short notice, relatively speaking, short notice. But the footwork,
the open cage, dude, I'm telling you, Pico has never
proven he could win against a guy like that because
he's never fought a guy like that.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
This is a hardcorese fight, but this is a real
ass fight with storyline stakes like this is a pretty
damn good fight. My central tension question to flip it, though,
is to ask you it's a tough question. Does Larl
Murphy lack an extra gear? Or is he just too
safe at times? Because I believe he's a he's a
he's a hot you know, he's a wild he's a
live dog, is what I'm trying to regurgitate here. Which

(44:40):
one is it?

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Though?

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Does he not go for it when he needs to?
Or is he too. Is he too calculated?

Speaker 5 (44:44):
I think he's too safe, he's too smart, and he's
good everywhere, and he knows how to win. He's undefeated
and he knows what he needs to do to win.
And I think he's gonna know, you know, to like
Luke was saying, stick and move, stick and move, stay
away from those takedowns and I think he's gonna go
out there. He could out outpoint him, but I think
he does. You know, if he really wants to get

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in the title picture, he needs to turn it up.
He needs to go for the finish. And uh, you know,
we'll see if he if he goes out there.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
And does it mean Peko has been willing to fight anyone.
The fact that he transitions so quickly from Ivloyev to
Murphy shows you that we know the push behind him.
Luke he's already talking about I'm just gonna take this
guy down and show you and show him exactly what
my wrestling is all about. I think the key to
his turnaround a couple of keys. One moving to Jackson
Winke in New Mexico.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
To find and Brandon Gibson in particular Ye and.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
Then finding the Rocko sa Freddi of Horses had to
boost his ego and his you know, his top. I mean,
if you've ever seen that the ship, that ship, the
Johnson on Pico's horse.

Speaker 7 (45:40):
You've never seen that, right?

Speaker 5 (45:41):
No? I haven't.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
I mean I know it probably you know, makes you
uncomfortable that we're bringing this up, But sometimes you gotta.
Sometimes you got a clap for the enemy, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Like like that.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
It's it's impressive his ship. Where were we right here?
Uh Luke. What I'm trying to say is.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
How do we have sponsors? It makes no sense.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
His The fact that he's leading with the threat of
his wrestling is what's making his striking even more dangerous.
Will he have extreme success in your eyes? Taking down Murphy?

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Extreme success?

Speaker 5 (46:07):
No?

Speaker 6 (46:07):
I do not think he'll have extreme success. Josh Emmett
took him down four times and then lost the unanimous decision.
Dan IgA took him down and lost the unanimous decision.
Gabriel Santos took him down five times and lost the decision.
Douglas Silva Deonrage took him down and lost the decision.
So how about that he did lose one to Zubira
to Googov in his first fight, This was in twenty nineteen.

(46:30):
He got taken down six times and there was still
a split decision loss. That's the only one he's got raw.
It says here split decady, Oh you're right, you're right.
Well they call it split decision slash draw. That doesn't
make any sense. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Great job, step boy.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
What point the point being is that was you know,
early on that might have been a bit of a
weakness for him, and it could still be something that
he's trying to shore up.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Like, of course, I think Pico is a better wrestler.
It's not really an issue. But I'm gonna say it
one more time, dude, it's going to be hard to
find this guy. He is.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
His footwork is part of his take down defense, right,
the fact that he's moving so much and he gets
good positioning and I don't know, I mean interesting, you.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Would think, knowing Murphy's history and the potential strength that
he has that boxing and using movement to make Pico
chases the game plan here. But there is a way
to get Pico into a brawl where you can find
that self destruct. But I mean everyone's got that ability.
We saw homs out against against Gilbert to get lured
into the seduction of a brawl. Which game plan do
you think ultimately will give Murphy the victory if he

(47:28):
pulls the betting up set here?

Speaker 5 (47:30):
And another thing is the UFC jitters. You know, Aaron
Pico could get in there co main event in Chicago
of a big UFC pay per view. He could go
in there and want to just bang. So I mean,
I think that, you know, he's got to use that boxing.
He's got to be calculated with his shots. He can't
just go in there and spam the shots. Because Larent
Murphy's movement is going to be so good in the

(47:51):
big in the big cage, to the big pay per
view cage. You know, Pico's got his work cut out
of him for him for his UFC debut, And I think,
you know, Laron Murphy is definitely gonna go out there
and use that movement, use those strikes and mix it
up enough to stay on the feet and you know,

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try to edge out edge out a decision.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Yeah, a lot of edging talk over here.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
It's interesting.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Do you think if you add that extra gear to
Murphy that sometimes we criticize him for not showing in
a situation maybe where he's in control of a fight.
If you add that, is he a threat to stop Pico?
Do you believe him when he says I'm gonna go
in there for the finish?

Speaker 1 (48:32):
No, I don't believe him. No.

Speaker 6 (48:34):
I mean, maybe you know it could happen. MMA's wild
and Peko's been stopped. I realize, but that doesn't seem
to me like the most likely.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Of things to happen.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
Couldn't rule it out, not ruling it out, But no,
I don't really think that. I think the issue is,
you know, is Peko going to be able to use
his wrestling enough to get a win? Or is the
stick and move of Laren Murphy or you'll to scramble
up the wrestle up, you know, is that going to
be the decisive factor?

Speaker 1 (48:57):
That's really what we're.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Gonna get into Peko's title chances here, and I by
the way, he's getting the title shot, no any form
of a victory here because even such a even if
he sit out, because this is such a fertile opportunity
for a division that needs it. The big stars leave
in Holloway and Taporia, and maybe they're kind of lucky
that Volkanowski was able to get back to the top
of the throne, and it really gives you a sellable name. Uh,
this is the exact guy that you would want on

(49:19):
this path. Before we get there, though, Long Island, Luke,
what are the current DraftKings odds for this comin event?

Speaker 7 (49:23):
Yeah, plus one forty for Murphy, minus one sixty six
for Peako.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Okay, so those are getting a little closer. I saw
Pico in the minus two to twenty area. Long Islanod,
Do you have an angle on the betting on this one?
Are you? Because I'm believing more in the idea that
Pico gets a breakthrough stoppage to announce himself than Murphy
doing things that he doesn't normally do.

Speaker 7 (49:43):
I think Murphy probably wins the decision. I did take
Murphy money life plus money.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
Do you think he probably wins? You're not just talking
about betting angles.

Speaker 7 (49:50):
Yeah, I could see it being twenty nine twenty eight.
You know, maybe a close decision, but I think Murphy
gets it done.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Are you are you backing that?

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Yeah? Iron back in that.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
I mean, guys are not believed that the raw dude
he was ready to explode.

Speaker 6 (50:03):
I do think that's right, and I do think. Listen,
I'm not I'm not necessarily questioning the full upside of Peca.
That's really not what I'm saying. But his last fight
was in February of twenty twenty four. We're not even
talking about the fact he's been off for a while,
not his fault altogether. Things happen, but that's just where
he's at. And again, I'm going to say one more time, dude,
look at the fucking record. Who on there is even

(50:23):
remotely as Okay, but they're not cab drivers, right, what
do you mean the opponents? No, they're not cab drivers,
but they're a tier or two down. They're you know,
this is we're talking about, dude, this is SEC football,
and he's been you know, he's been fighting. He's been fighting,
you know, Florida Atlantic. I mean, it's not the same thing, right,
I'm not trying to be dick upout Florida Atlantic. But
it's a different ballgame when it's Alabama or UGA. That's

(50:46):
not what's different.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
Yeah, he's getting thrown into a comaine event UFC pay
per view as well.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Wow, I'm shocked all three of you are picked.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
No, so let's look back on you. What is it
that gives you confidence? And what I say bout that
is yes, all the things with talked about. Does he
look like he's insane shape, Yes, Kenny Russell, no fucking question.
Does he have that left hook to the liver is
just fucking money? Fine, But it's all against you know,
you know, it's against University of Nebraska at Lincoln or

(51:16):
whatever the fuck. It's not against the fucking real deal.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Look the doubts against him, I'm not missing any of them.
I totally understand it. But he was the most hyped
prospect of all time for a reason. He was the
national high school Wrestler of the Year. He was went
to the stories of going into Freddie Rochi Jim and
sparring Miguel Coto on like somewhat even terms like you know,
I mean, like we know what the hell this guy
brings to the table. I think he has fix we do.
I think he has fixed what is broken within him.

(51:41):
So I don't have the confidence that he would implode.
He doesn't have to implode to lose here. He could
just get out technical by a brilliant game plan from
Laura Murphy. A lot of you know he can win
it while still showing himself. I just think the upside
on him is so real. I think we've seen flashes
of that, of that full potential come out and some
of these beltar wins, even if it's against being opposition
at best. Fine, you know, I know we've seen different

(52:04):
Belltour guys come in and some exceed our expectations and some,
you know, not live up to it. I think Patricio Pippol,
even though he's thirty seven, kind of had that in
his pro in his UFC debut, although he redeemed that
last time. This kid can knock you out at any time.
So if he's down two and a half rounds here,
I'm still believing that there's chances for him, whether it's
mauling ground and pound, whether it is needing to rally

(52:25):
for a KO, or just going to the body and
taking control and slowing Murphy down and then mixing in
those takedowns to give you an honest points when where
he shows everything he's got. This is an opportunity for
a coming out party to go into a Volkanovski fight
with hype and potential, even though I understand that most
of the audience will not have known his full story.
He has the chance to be impressive as shit, and

(52:48):
I think that overrides the fears or doubts we have
about who really is in there.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Yeah, he didn't answer my question, but that's fine.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Yeah, but it was like, like the field, give me.

Speaker 6 (52:57):
A passion plea for why you have confidence, which I
think is vibes yes, which is no, It's totally fine.
It's totally fine. And again, if he plays it smart
and he's pressuring Murphy up against the fence where he's
going to be able to like land some of the
hooks to the body or more easily set up a takedown,
it's his fight for the taking at that point. But
I just want to be clear. What you're talking about
is reasons for full on career optimism. I share, and

(53:19):
I also completely agree. I'm not worried about him imploding.
That's really not where I'm.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
Then add in the real truth. But I'm underwhelmed up.
I'm underwhelmed by Lauren Murphy. I was also underwhelmed and
wrong by Leon Edwards, and he showed us in the
Usman rematch that he can fucking pull it out and
that he was legit pump for palm for a couple
of fights. I was wrong on that one. I don't
think Lauryn Murphy is going to take it to that
next level enough to expose him. And if he does,
I think he's gonna get knocked out trying. That's what

(53:45):
I'm really saying, Luke, let's put the real talk on
the line, like Quervo do.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
It's certainly possible.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
I just think if you want me to believe truly
in Pico being ready, now he's got to prove it
against an A class opponent, and this is the first
A class opponent he's ever had.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Let's go. Yeah, that's the intrigue though, just like not
knowing exactly what Hamza will look like in rounds four
and five, the things that we don't know about this
Peko fight is partially what makes it so attractive and exciting.
And also he's planting a damn seed for the future
so much so now. And he was reactionary to the
champion Alexander Volkanowski that we had to call it Quervo

(54:24):
because I think there were just some shots being fired. Yeah,
that's what I'm talking about. Of course, this segment brought
to you shots fired by Quervo. Now is a good
time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. We are
enjoying it just fine. Here is Alexander Volkanowski on Fox
Sports Australia, escalating the growing sort of back and forth

(54:48):
between them.

Speaker 9 (54:49):
O honestly excite me because I reckon I crumbling in
the wrestling department.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
Department.

Speaker 9 (54:54):
He might be good for one tykedown, two tkedowns. If
he even gets me down.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
I'm straight back up watch.

Speaker 9 (55:00):
Him, not wanting to, you know, clean up anymore. After that,
his best bet is to obviously try and land a
big shot.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Other than that, I'm off the floor with him.

Speaker 5 (55:09):
He's got their own Murphy to deal with it, exactly right,
That's what I mean.

Speaker 9 (55:12):
I'm sitting there trying to eat myself up, get it ready.
But at the same time, he needs a due work
and he's in a position now where again I like
to I'm more talking about this because I need someone
right if it's.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Going to be him, Let's start.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
With feeling beefs with everybody of a beef.

Speaker 9 (55:28):
Get people who thought ready for it, because it might
happen after this week if we don't know.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
But in saying that I'll take it.

Speaker 9 (55:34):
I really will take it serious after I see what
he I think he's got a tough fight ahead of
him this weekend. Murphy, you know when it comes to strategy,
game planning and all that sort of stuff. Very safe
fighter if he can get through him and bluff.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Good ship there from the folks at Fox Sports Australia. Now,
do you believe him or is he just trying to
start to ratefully so trying to build that storyline and
build that beef between them.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
That's what you want to see out of a champion.
You want a champion who says he's going to the
floor with anybody, any contender coming and and that's he
he needs, he needs contenders, and that's what he's doing.
He's getting there talking, talking his talk, and and you
love to see that at a champion who I want
to see it. I want to see that fight, you know.
But again, whoever comes out, you know, they need a finish.

(56:20):
I want Murphy to really go out there and go
for it. I want to. You know, he can, he
can fight safe, he can win a decision, but I
want him to go for it. Either go broke and
and and get the finish, or he goes for it
and then Pico will make him pay for it. And
if if he goes for it, I think, uh, Volcanov's
gonna have a very good contender.

Speaker 8 (56:42):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Nextree with you, Luke, do you, I want to say,
do you believe volkanovska? I meant, do you think he
believes his wrestling would really take over against Pico's wrestling on.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
The defensive side? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (56:53):
Yeah, I do think he thinks that well, and he
should like his He's great his he's at this level,
he's his battle tested as it fucking gets. I mean,
he's proven how good he is. There's no question about it.
So yeah, I think he thinks everything he's saying.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Well, now, look, please tell me we have video of
Aaron Picco's rebuttal.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, So we talked him at about this.
You've not seen this. No, take a gander of this ship.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Bro James, you have got Alexander Bolkanovski's attention. I know
you said to Fox Sports Australia you would knock him out.
He replied to that, I don't know if you heard it.
He said, I reckon, I'd crumble him in the wrestling department.
His best bet is to try and land a big shot.
Other than that, I mopped the floor with him, so
I guess what's your response to that? And at least
you have his attention, it seems.

Speaker 8 (57:37):
Well it would be five rounds, So I think I'm
gonna land a left hok or a right hand so
I can put him out. But I'm the new guy
in this organization and I'm just going to be upfront
and to have his attention, that's a good thing. But
I have to take care of larn Murphy. That's all

(57:58):
I'm focused on. But Volkanowski, you know, has it coming. Yeah,
He's He's not an easy guy to fight, and I'm
aware of that. And and uh, I look at who
he's fought as far as the high level wrestlers. He's
never fought a high level wrestler like me. And your

(58:18):
time is coming?

Speaker 7 (58:19):
Are you happy to almost take a little longer?

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Get your feet wet?

Speaker 7 (58:22):
In the US he experienced this stage a bit more.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Are you ready?

Speaker 7 (58:25):
Like, Hey, if he calls me out, I'm fighting volk
as soon as possible.

Speaker 8 (58:29):
No, Volkanowski, we win this fight, We fight Volkanovsky. Why
am I gonna Why am I gonna go through the
ringer and and take.

Speaker 5 (58:38):
Fight?

Speaker 1 (58:38):
He would Your reaction to that, WHOA.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
Hey, he's confident and you know he's dialed in. He
just had a amazing fight camp, he's fight week, he's
cutting weight. You know, his confidence is through the roof nice.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
He's a fucking gaucho. And how can you not see that?
The fact that he had to wait through the PFL
BRT Bellator merger and not and was miss handled. It's
building a callous on him. I know he can be
lured into a brawl and he can get God, I
don't care. My argument is not pointed ultimately.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
Yes, that's the My concern is him being just a
hit and then fucking Murphy is gone like a fart
in the wind.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Yes, that's my problem.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
You don't see that next level like it's time and
he knows it's time, and he's carrying himself.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
Like Adam, You will is important, but it's not really
the will that wins championships.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
And that's all you need to know all about real man.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
All Right, He's going to be out there with something
to prove and I think that's going to bring out
the best in him and he wants. He wants the title.
You know, he he knows that he's the new guy.
You know, nobody really knows him. He doesn't, you know,
nobody respects him. But I think he's gonna go out
there and he wants to finish Murphy and get that
title fight. He's got confidence through the roof. He's prepared,

(59:55):
He's been training his entire life. He's a wrestler from
from when he was a baby. So I think he
knows the time is now and he's gonna bring it.
And like you said, I think Murphy can outpoint him.
That's his Murphy can jab move, defend those takedowns, you know,
outpoint him. And you hope that that Pico doesn't, you know,

(01:00:18):
doesn't blow smoke out of his nose and just come
forward and get all pissed off and throw caution to
the wind.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
No, he's got to be calculated, yeah, to be but
he dude, there's a demeanor around him that is like mean.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Yeah, well, he's got mean ground and pound. I mean,
that's one thing I will say for him.

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
If he gets Murphy down and Murphy's stuck for any
amount of time, he's gonna get He's gonna get drilled.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
You know, that's a real thing.

Speaker 6 (01:00:41):
So not a submission threat, and Piko's not much of
a submission threat, but he's definitely a heavy ground and
pound threat.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
He's gonna have to use it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
If he gets Murphy down, you gotta make it count,
really hurt him, even with the idea that like, Okay,
I can only hold him down for ninety seconds, right,
I got ninety seconds to just just drill this dude.
Let it happen, and then if he gets up, he
gets up, But like, like what pause? I got ninety
seconds to have sex with him in front of everyone.
It's not what I'm saying. I'm saying to really score

(01:01:07):
meaningful ground of pound, that's your window.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Let's see what he did n't see what he does,
all right?

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
I mean it has to be said. If Hunter Campbell
reportedly is a huge Peico stand and they're ready to
give him opportunity, but he would deserve it if he
gets past La real Mo for your hare. Could should
you push behind the scenes of your Pico's team to
allow him to ride that horse down the ramp, you know,
for the introduction horse. Yes, but his horse is Sefreddi
and his horse has a you know, if you got

(01:01:32):
it big, you know what I mean, let me search
that maybe be maybe there would be issues with the
horse shitting, but imagine how bad that said be if
that horse came up the ramp into the cage and
reared up and he just.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Can you believe the amount of time he thinks about
horses cocks.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
Hey, it's a good flex for Pico if he could
do that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Please, Okay, I mean, I know it's cool when you
know when the bow and Arrow comes out and Pereira
does that dance. I mean, it's you know, it's I
love the heritage and the and the roots in it,
but this is cooler. Thank you very much. Hey, let's
get further down the line. And I love this main
card and part of that is just the all action
we expect we're going to get from this welterweight till
when the veteran Jeff Neil welcomes a Carlos protest who

(01:02:10):
was four or zero with four stoppages in the UFC.
Then we saw a little bit of humbling against Ian
machadod Gary, although he almost repaired it in the end.
And this fight is so good that our breakdown a
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slow you down. Now, Fellas, Jeff Neil is always going

(01:02:30):
to have a butcher's chance. He's battle tested. He is
coming off a TKO injury win over the legend ar Dia,
but he had been stuck. He had lost two fights
before that coming in. He has been up and down
at times. Is the narrative of this fight, Matt really
about can Carlos Protests pick up the pieces from the
Gary loss where he said, I wasn't listening to my
coach's game plan. I didn't execute how I needed to.

(01:02:53):
Is this fight really about whether we find out if
Protest is for real? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
I think so. I think he's with those fighting nerds.
You know, they they're very analytical, they they they're very
you know, coaching heavy, and and he said that he
wasn't listening to his corner. So we're gonna see if
he can definitely pick those pieces up and fight smart.
But hands of steel Neil like Jeff Neil. I love
that nickname. That's one of my favorite nicknames. And he does.

(01:03:19):
He's got hands of steel. Is boxing is beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
He's cold when he needs to be in there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
Oh yeah, he's a mean fighter and and he's he's
high level. I think that this is a it's a
great matchup, it's going to be a great stand up fight,
and somebody's getting knocked out. It's amazing that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Ian Gary beat both of them, you know, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
And it was a split decision for Gary against Neil,
just like the protest fight became closer than it looked
like it was going to be through three and a
half rounds in the end. Do you take you don't see.
You don't take pluses from protesters lost to Ian But
because he rallied against the schadele Gary and because now
he's saying the right things. By the way, he's also
saying that he's still smoking cigarettes and it's helping with
his weight cuts. Are you expecting a big bounce back here?

(01:03:59):
Like like base, If you beat Jeff Neil, you're pretty
much ready for that top five.

Speaker 6 (01:04:03):
You've got a very different opponent than Ian Gary. Jeff Neil, again,
he is technical and he is a good fighter. I
certainly agree, but he's definitely gonna come forward, right you
would agree with that he's gonna be in your face,
and so I think Prochest is gonna be for the
most part, that's gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
I don't know if that's gonna make it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:04:23):
I'm not saying that's gonna make protest win. What I
am saying is that's what Projest wants. In order to
get the win he wants, someone's gonna come to him
and then they can duke it out. That's what you're
gonna get. You're gonna get two fucking dudes duking it out.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
How wild is it to smoke cigarettes as a right?
I mean, you know, athletes have done that. It wasn't
just like nineteen fifties mba like Vadie Devout used to
go to the locker room for you know, it's a
European culture thing. But is it insane in fighting or
more guys you know get away doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
No, it's insane, don't I don't know how he does it.
I mean, I'm I want to fight in November and
I'm already stopped smoking blunts now.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
Yeah, And we were making him shoot tequila, Harry, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
But it was good. That was good.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
Yeah, I mean, that's got a rob from the cardio,
so he just have sick cardio to begin with them.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
You know, maybe he does it while he trains, so
he's just used to it. He's adapted to it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
And have you been to Thailand? I have.

Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
I've heard some of those old tie trainers smoke cigarettes.
But then they get out there and they can just
run forever.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
There's a there's a culture and distance running. They get hide. Yeah,
oh yeah, you have to be able to get around it, right.
I mean NBA players say they're high all season.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
I think that everybody's body is different, everybody adapts different.
You know, if he's doing it throughout his training and
he's feeling good, then I guess that's what he does.
You know, I think he's figured out his right amount
of cigarettes with his training, red amount of cigarettes to
help his weight cut. You know, maybe he utilizes it

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in an effective way. He doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
He doesn't look like he gases, right, No, that's not
the issue.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
And he had much more gas laid against Ian michead Ogary.
Do you look back and say, could have should have
finished Gary?

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
Where is like we got there was one good window
where he had a shot. But like, dude, you know,
if a twenty five minute fight, if you got like
one good window, you know you need like three or
four good windows, you know what I mean. Like, so
he had a moment, but not enough.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
You ever guess out in a fight? I mean, does
it feel helpless?

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
I always tell everybody, every single fighter gets tired in
a fight. Everybody gets tired in a fight. But it's
who is comfortable there, who can keep their technique, who
can fight through it. Like I always say, me and
Billy Q, like I'll I'll smoke Billy Q in any
race and any any competition and any like lifting and
any kind of thing. But when we're in there sparring,

(01:06:38):
he just spars for rounds and rounds and rounds and rounds.
It's cardio is just as much mental as it is physical,
because everybody's tired. But it's who's comfortable there, who could
keep fighting when they're tired, that they're known for having
good cardio.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
I have good cardio as a as a podcaster.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
An announcer, as a masturbator.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
Okay, that's a very aggressive all right. The Stroway division
not where it used to be to be fair at
the moment, you know, in terms of talking to him death.
I'm talking from a fighting standpoint Long Island. Look, what
are the odds here for this Jeff Neil Carlos as
Luke would say, I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Mean, that's not what I would say.

Speaker 7 (01:07:13):
Jeff Neil plus two hundred minus two forty.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Five, Okay, that makes a lot of Well pes, do
you look at him as a future title contender? I
know you don't know, you, but you don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
No, he's not.

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
I mean, dude, you've got fucking Sean Brady Rock monov Ian, Gary,
you know you got JDM up there, here comes Islam.
You got you know, Jeff Joaquin Buckley's not far behind. Kamar,
who's still making mos Morales.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Is not far either. Yeah, do Walter Wait? Walter Waite is.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
A murderer's fucking row at the top. Prochest is good.
He's dangerous. I'm not just missing him. But he's not
those guys.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
No, you think he Gary wants the title at Walter Wait.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
I think he's got what it takes. He could. You
know he's got the skill, but you know, I think
he's got to stay focused. Like his seems like his
mind's like everyone, like all the promotion, all the all
the things that he does on social media and stuff.
If he can really dial in and focus, he's got
the skill.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
I can't figure out if he has too much reality
TV drama in his life or if he thrives because
of having too much reality TV drama. I mean, Luke,
you know what I'm saying. It's a legit question. I'm
not asking you about the relationship necessarily.

Speaker 6 (01:08:21):
I'm just saying I think his promotional Yes, he is
lifted promotionally by it. I think that is true, but
I don't know if it actually makes this game better.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
It is bad ass when he comes out to Laila,
but Derek and the Dominoes is it? Look, you need
to respect that man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
I became team I'm not the one. I'm obsessed with
his personal life.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
I fell into becoming a I Chidle Gary believer.

Speaker 6 (01:08:46):
I'm the only way to be obsessed with his personal
life is if you don't have one, right, That's the
only way.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
I mean, I have one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
But they're not how good is it?

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Well, you know it's very basement heavy records, you know well, but.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Most of them have a very good That's got to
be a real loser to care about his life.

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
I look from a betting angle.

Speaker 7 (01:09:07):
We going back big on protest or no, so I
stayed away from the money line. I took over one
and a half, which is a little risky in a parlay.
I will say, though I like Jeff Neil a plus
money in this fight. I don't, ye do I really
especially like a spread bet dude Jeff Neil to win
one round or something.

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
I think people sleep on Jeff Neil. I think he's
got hands of steal. You know, he's only lost to
really tough fighters. Very true, He's in every fight and
he's I love his boxing. I love the way he fights.
Like you said, he comes forward and and that's gonna
be That's just gonna make for an awesome fight. Because
Pratos comes forward as well. I think they're both gonna

(01:09:44):
throw down, and Jeff Neil can definitely definitely finish him.
And that underdog money I let. I like all the
underdogs on this card.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
Honestly, shit head over on down to the window.

Speaker 7 (01:09:55):
I agree. I agree one hundred percent. I think every
underdog on the main card is a live dog.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Five of them.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
So that would be DDP, that would be Lara Murphy,
and in this case, that would be Jeff Neil. All
interesting stuff right there. I still like protests. I don't
know if he's gonna get the knockout, but this is
the fight where he's got to put it all back together.
I believed in the things he said. He said I
got too caught up in the Gary fight and he
wasn't fallowing the game plan. And he also also said
what needs to be said more is like there's part
of Gary's game, the distance management, the defense that makes

(01:10:23):
it really hard. He almost caught up and got here.
This is the really hard fight to correct that wrong.
Get back in line. Man. I feel like I'm saying
that about everybody, but I believe in Pekah. I believe
in protests. All right, So all peep right there. Look,
anything else you want to say on that, because it's
getting weird?

Speaker 5 (01:10:37):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
In on down the card we go to the middleweight division.
I freaking love this fight, even though it's two goal
guys going together and I'm not even sure you can
talk me into there being any stakes here. But Michael
venim Page, at thirty eight years old, can still do
it in a big way, and he gave shar Ball
at his first defeat last time in his middleweight debut.
He's talked about not he knows his spot in the rankings.

(01:11:01):
He knows it's gonna be hard for him to get
a big fight at Welterwait. He's one and one at
welter wait since coming to the UFC, that lost to
Ian Gary, and now he's going to go in there
against a Jared Cannoneer at forty one who's coming off
a brawl with Hobo Kop where he sent him to
hell and now he's like, I'm broken. I need to
buy my mama house. Don't mess with this guy, because

(01:11:21):
think about it. I used to say Cannoneer got pretty
darna Lee title challenger, but he was a little too
technical at times when I wanted him to let that
shit go as an older fighter. Now he's letting that
shit go. This against the striking of MVP. I'm knocking
shit over, Luke. This is gonna be a sneaky, great
entertainment about for three rounds.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Come on.

Speaker 6 (01:11:38):
Michael Page at eighty five has been very surprising to me.
He's still fast, he's still accurate, he's still got all
the swag.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
That he always competes with. And then you got cannoneir
who I left for the dead on the side of
the road. After that, is he lost? And you know
he's had some tough fights since then.

Speaker 6 (01:11:53):
But as kind of to your point, BC put himself
back together again a little bit here as kind of
you know, by hooker by crook, he's in relevant spots
and he's I think he's definitely the more powerful of
the two. The question you have to ask yourself is
is a forty year old cannony or what kind of
speed and reflexes does he have relative to what Michael
Page has. You're right, and I don't think he's got
the speed. So what is Cannonar gonna do? I'm gonna

(01:12:15):
try and kick out the legs why I see some wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
I don't want him to do what he did against
Izzy and this is kind of a similar matchup, even
though it's at different times. Is I don't want him
to wait on the outside and try to land that
perfect gun.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
You'll get beat to the punch every time.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
But is it going to go really bad for him
if he throws caution to the wind like he was
forced to do against Gregory Rodriguez and try to corner
Page and make this, you know, more of a brawl.

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
I think that's what he needs to do. MVP is
so fast, he's so I love watching him fight, like
his karate style is his movement, his strikes are. He's
so fast, he's so accurate, and I think Cantoner has
to like turn it into a dogfight, make it dirty
in there. That's I think that's his best chance at winning.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Last. The two fights before that, the Hobocop comeback was
a just and lost to Kyle Bohalio, a TKO lost
in Asterdine Imovov. But wasn't there an injury related or something.
I'm not explaining it away.

Speaker 5 (01:13:08):
It wasn't an injury.

Speaker 7 (01:13:08):
It was just a late finish and it was arguably questionable.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
I remember that moment, yes, But we then two fights
before that, he'd be Sean Strickland and Marvintory.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Back to battle that Strickland was ship.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
It was like some Dan Henderson versus shot type nubs.

Speaker 7 (01:13:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
It was just weird shit, so terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
But I'm not saying he's the best version of himself
right here, but I think he still got more, especially
if he's gonna lean into trying to be violent. MVP
is never going to be an easy style. But I
don't hate Cannoneer by upset knockout here, I really don't.
Or I don't know what it's the line long Island please.

Speaker 7 (01:13:40):
Plus one sixty four Caneer minus one.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
That's where I expected it to be. Am I crazy
here on plus killer gorilla money to get the ko.

Speaker 5 (01:13:48):
No, I don't think you are. I mean I like canonear.
He seems like a very interesting guy. Like it with
his uh crystals, right, he likes.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
Gotta believe in those crystals.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
He likes the crystals, so maybe believe in the power
of rocks.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
I don't I don't quite get it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:02):
But you know, maybe he's got maybe he got another
special crystal to uh to get him on point for
this fight. But again, I think he needs make it
a dog fight, Like if you're trying to strike from
range with MVP, you're gonna lose. You know, MVP is
too fast, he's too he's too technically, he's got too
you know, much of a karate style with his kicks

(01:14:24):
and his punches and his weird Yeah, his timing is beautiful.
Uh So I think you know, Cantoneer's got to get
in his face. You know, maybe shoot some takedowns, just
turn it into a dog fight. And at forty one
years old, you know, does he have that in him?

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
Does he have the stamina to keep pushing. It's not
gonna be one shot that gets it done. But if
you do bully Page you can find an opening. Yes,
but it's got to be La kicks. It's got to
be things that will slow and wear him down.

Speaker 6 (01:14:51):
You're right, Yeah, I mean, if MVP has time and
space to move, you're fucked.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
You gotta take that away.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
Yeah, I'm loving it. I'm loving it. I'm believing in
cannoneer long on. Look you back me on that.

Speaker 7 (01:15:02):
Come on again. I'm taking the over one and a half.
But I actually like prediction. I'll go MVP by the year.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
I'm going MVP on this one.

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
Yeah all right.

Speaker 6 (01:15:10):
By the way, another guy been up and down since
came to the UFC, but definitely a good addition from
Bellator to the UFC.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
He's going through his HUNGLEI portion of his career, only
without the class action lawsuit. That's okay, We're onto something.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
We opened this card with another good fight at Flyway
as Kai Asakura, who came in with that big UFC
debut in a title shot against Alexandre's Pantosia will finally
come back here the Japanese superstar of the All Action
Fighter and a very good matchup against thirty eight year
old Tim Elliott, who's always got that funky style on
the ground, is a dog when he needs to be.

(01:15:45):
And oh, by the way, tim Elliott's won three of
four at one twenty five, the only loss being a
submission against Mohammed mokayav in twenty twenty three, who's not
even here right now. So I feel like this could
be a firecracker type opening about high speed, a lot
of things going on. But Luke, do you think Elliott
is just a tough veteran old out or he's live

(01:16:05):
in this fight.

Speaker 6 (01:16:05):
He's crafty as shit, He's super crafty and a couple
things about him. He can find the back, which I
think is gonna make him a real big problem. Got
good wrestling. He's fought I.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Mean, Demitrius Johnson and the best that you know.

Speaker 6 (01:16:17):
I know this is not a one twenty five five,
but I'm just saying he's fought a lot of really
really tough, battle tested guys. This is Uh, okay, you're right.
I'm sorry, you're right. He used to be a thirty
five as well. I apologize, but you get my point.
Like he's definitely been you know, he's fought really good guys.
My only concern. And by the way, also Tim Elliott
has gone on the record and been like, I'm going

(01:16:38):
to cheat until the ref stops me. And honestly, I
don't blame him, like the case, it's the fucking way
this work goes. Putting that aside asakora Is, I think
a little bit younger, and I definitely think a little
bit more athletic, and I definitely think a much heavier hitter.
So it's a tough challenge, but it's doable for a
guy like Tim Elliott who's really fought very, very credible opposition.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
Matt before we go forward. We almost celebrate, whether it's
pitchers in baseball or crafty boxers like Bernard Hopkins, when
you can effectively cheat in strategical ways like you know,
John Stockton in the NBA, you know, known for pushing
and grabbing and he got away with it. Do fighters
strategize little little you know, boundary pushing to try to

(01:17:19):
gain an edge and is there like a are there
experts in that field in the in the game that
you see.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
No, I don't think so, but I mean it though, Luke,
there would I always say, you know, you get picked up.
You know, if you could grab the cage, you know,
you usually get a warning. You know, you most of
the time get a warning at least I say that
in sparring whenever I grab the cage, like come on,
I get a warning.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
But if somebody ball kicks you, you know you have
that one get out of jail free card if you
need like a break or something.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
Right, Oh yeah, if you need yeah, you know, you
kick them the nuts, get oh my bed. You know,
you get a little get a little breather.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
So you're a former bouncer in bar street fight unspoken
etiquette is a ball kick survival?

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Or is it?

Speaker 6 (01:17:57):
You know, it never comes to that even if you
world zone usually back of the pants and then like
scruff of the neck or like the back of the collar.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
But like, is it is it respectable in a manly
sense in.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
A bar fight?

Speaker 8 (01:18:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Whatever goes?

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
Yeah, No, take you like take that eye off, n
you can three stoom, you can do the whole they
test you at the local bars in Huntington.

Speaker 5 (01:18:18):
They don't test No, they don't test me.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
But do you ever feel like you have that hidden
superpower or maybe they don't recognize you. They think you're
just like the.

Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
Let's show the show, the show the crowd your ears,
let's see your ears. Yeah, I mean, look, you got
motherfucker's got dumplings.

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
AirPods in there.

Speaker 5 (01:18:35):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
But that's a badge that says something, So you get
that respect. Look even if they don't know you're Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
I do.

Speaker 5 (01:18:41):
But you know, every once in a while, like like
or like years ago, you know, people would I would
say stuff, and like I would laugh at people because
they just have no clue. You know that the untrained
uh you know, person out there, especially after with a
couple of drinks and them they think they're unstoppable, but
they just don't know. That's why you got to get

(01:19:03):
him in a gym. And if people that train you
get humbled so quick.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
For cardio above anything.

Speaker 6 (01:19:08):
The average donk seems to think that like fighting is
some way to channel emotional energy. And I'm like, it's
a skill, like you just it's a trade. It's like
calling up a plumber and being like, I can fix
this faster than you. There's no fucking way you can
do that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
No, Shita, you need to infiltrate yourself in the Vola
mafia and then get them to go out to a bar,
run your mouth out of control in public. Cheese rolls
right behind him.

Speaker 7 (01:19:33):
That's being humble, though. This guy's got pictures up all
around town with his photo and every place, so everyone
knows matt and town.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
There you go, that's you don't pay for a drink
in that town. And I love that Kayasakura, He's thirty
one years old. Funny ship, right, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
Man, And I'm always rooting for the for the Japanese guys.
I like, I like the Japanese, the Samurai fighters, and
I'm I'm hoping that he can go out there and
and really get a big finish to get back in
like a title picture of a division that really needs it.
But he but Tim Elliott is a is a veteran man.
He's been through, He's fought everyone. He's he's good everywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
I love his performance. Demetrius Johnson obviously in a loss
after he won the Tough Tournament, but he was it
was difficult in that ship.

Speaker 5 (01:20:13):
He was in it. He was big Demetrius had you know,
he was more skilled than him.

Speaker 6 (01:20:17):
But like the size and he knows how to use
his size too, and the weight cut's gotten better for
him to go to twenty five.

Speaker 5 (01:20:22):
Like he's a tough out crafty vet.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Is that? Where does divorce Twitter beef thing over with?

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Once again?

Speaker 6 (01:20:27):
I don't give a but like if a fighter is
going through some personal ship that's in the middle of
a divorce, I do think that's a relevant thing to
think about.

Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
Yeah, I'm saying, is that behind him now? So maybe
we're gonna come and have another run.

Speaker 6 (01:20:38):
He beats some of derg like he's got a win
under his back taking he's taking the underdog.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
Here, Luke.

Speaker 7 (01:20:44):
I'm not officially, but I was saying, I like every
underdog on this, I'm taking the over one and a
half in this as well. But dude, Tim Elliott points
spread we haven't seen Kayosaker beat anyone in the UFC yet.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
I don't. He had one fight against the champions yep
y still count. But Kayosker obviously has a decorated record
from Japan, was fresh off that one Archiletta title win
before he came to the UFC, so we're gonna see
he can punch. I think he certainly has a great
chance to bounce back here, Tim, but great matchmaking, So
shout out to the UFC in that one. That's your
main card before we look at the uh. You know
the cherries to pick, they're out of things that should

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Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
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five minutes?

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
Yes, give me the over, I'm giving the over. I'm
taking that as well. How about Aaron Pico here in
the three round fight against l Ron Murphy two point
five takedowns. He said he's going to lead with that wrestling.

Speaker 5 (01:22:56):
See that's a tougher one, right, Yeah, I'm gonna uh,
I'm gonna say over.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
I like the oder on that one as well. And
if you look at the strikes here, particularly in this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
It doesn't matter what he does with him, he just
has to collect them.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
More or less in any category there.

Speaker 6 (01:23:15):
And you pick josh Emmett, who's a good wrestler, not Pico,
but he's a good wrestler, dynamite puncher.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
He got four and twenty five minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:23:26):
Hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Man, that's a tough one. That is that is I'll
take the under all right.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
Let's talk quickly about that MVP versus Cannoneer fight. The
more or less on total strikes for MVP fifty one
and a half over three rounds. You're going more or
less for Michael ven and Page against Cannoneer more.

Speaker 5 (01:23:41):
I think MVP is gonna touch him up.

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
I'm with you on that. I like that bet a lot. Luke,
what about quickly to close on this main event? When
you look at significant significant strikes, they have the more
or less DDP sixty eight point five, the more or
less on Tremaia fifty four point five. We go five rounds,
we can get the over on both of those here, right,
Am I asking too much in this matchup?

Speaker 6 (01:24:02):
If you go fall five, I definitely would take the
over on both. But that part's hard to know, right,
I mean, because you could it could be a one
round fight. It could be a one fucking round fight.
But if it goes the full five, I would take
the over on both.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
If you think you know better, download the DraftKings Pick
six app today. Let's do it use our code combat
with a K. All right, folks, when we look for
a few minutes here to close out on the prelims
and early prelims. Look, I'll let you pick off the menu. First,
we lose King Green in that fight against Carlos Diego Fijeda.
That looks like the new featured prelim is a middleweight
bout between GM three, Gerald Mehershard and mihal Olek shaikesk.

(01:24:36):
What is the prelim or early prelim that you're most
focused on?

Speaker 6 (01:24:39):
Very interested to see this kid in the Contender series
again by Sengor Sersakayev, But that's not my pick. My
official pick is how about Chase Hooper and Alexander Hernandez.
That is a fun one. By the way, your division,
if memory serves, Alexander Hernandez been up down, up, down,
up down looks the part physically.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Chase Hooper, he is.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
The curse of calling them cowboy dead.

Speaker 6 (01:24:57):
The day drinking done, day drinking don It is what
he call which, by the way, was a good zip.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
It didn't work out too well.

Speaker 6 (01:25:04):
But however, Chase Hooper to me, is the more interesting
factor here. Chase Hooper was I thought very physically undersized
when he first got to the UFC.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
And skill is not really where it needed to be.
But low and behold is.

Speaker 6 (01:25:14):
He's gotten a little bit older, He's filled out. I
think the game is really starting to mature. I'm loving
what I'm seeing from him. Hernandez tough out for him,
I fully recognize, but I love that contest.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Your division, what do you think about these two?

Speaker 5 (01:25:28):
Yeah, Chase, Chase has really grown into like a full
fighter now. You know, he's he came out at one
forty five. I think he started out and he was
young getting into the UFC, and now he's filled that
at one fifty five. He's on a roll. I want
to say. He's on like a four fight winning streak
and he's got elite jiu jitsu. He there's no doubt

(01:25:48):
that he wants to get it to the ground and
he wants to use that jiu jitsu. But his striking
is starting to look very good.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Song too, right, Rangy, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:25:58):
Oh yeah, but with that jiu jitsu, I think he
could he could beat anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
Well, he's not a good twenty five years old. You
mentioned how he basically came as a teenager five wins
in a row, and he's been escalating from Slava Clause
to Clay Weed to the Jim Miller, so he's ready
to take on more challenges. This is a tough challenge,
long Islan Luke. What are the odds on this featured
early prel.

Speaker 7 (01:26:17):
Let me see quick, guys, Chase Hooper is minus three
twenty five. Wow, Alexander Hernandez plus two sixty.

Speaker 5 (01:26:24):
I understand though, And.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
Chase Hooper's long as shit for this division too. You
could end up fighting him.

Speaker 5 (01:26:29):
Yeah, I like that fight. I wouldn't. I wouldn't let
that nerd beat me up.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
That's what we expect on this show, right, There's all
I mean you would say, look that the steamroll has
got there's something left in that basement, right Yeah, so
there's a few, there's a there's another.

Speaker 5 (01:26:43):
Run in the little week got off. We got it,
we still got some.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
That's what I'm talking about right there. Anything any fighter
or matchup on this deep undercard when you have names
like Eds Barbosa, Jessica, and Rodge. What's jumping out to you?

Speaker 5 (01:26:54):
Brian Battle, Brian Battle?

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
I love that it's buried right now?

Speaker 5 (01:26:58):
Yeah, man, I love Brian Battle. I remember I was
hanging out with him out in Paris and he's a
cool dude, and uh he's a dog in there.

Speaker 8 (01:27:05):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
I love watching him fight.

Speaker 6 (01:27:07):
He's got a little attitude, like a good way, you
know what I mean. Yeah, he's he because he was
fucking he was like fuck this crowd.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
I was like, this is my guy, this is my god.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
He's a four and oh with one no contest in
his last five. What type of matchup, Luke, are you
expecting against Nurseltan?

Speaker 6 (01:27:22):
Ryan Battle has surprised me, to be perfectly honest, I
mean I would I'm guessing a long Luke that that
Battle is the favorite here.

Speaker 7 (01:27:29):
Oh that's a good question, Luke, isn't I just have
a question for everyone. Isn't Battle moving up to eighty five?

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
Yes he is?

Speaker 7 (01:27:37):
That would make me well.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
He wasn't happy about the billing here, you know, like
the second.

Speaker 6 (01:27:41):
Ruse Boyev has been somewhat unimpressive to me. Battle I
think has a little bit all over the place sometimes
with his offense. But I just feel like Rosy Boye
is I don't know, he seems to fight more. How
do I explain this? I think Battle will be able
to be on the front foot here, and I think
that's going to be the difference maker.

Speaker 7 (01:27:59):
It's minus seventy Battle plus one's about right.

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
Yes, that is going to be an absolute banger. Look,
Women's strawait not as exciting as the you know, the
that prime era not too long ago. But Jessica Androdge
and Lupy Godinyaz, that has the potential to be kind
of a sleeper action fight.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
No, no doubt about it. One fifteen.

Speaker 6 (01:28:15):
There's still a little bit of life left in that
division as well. Jesicon Dridge is so funny to me.
Jessica and Drige was strong at one thirty five. She's
a fucking powerlifter at.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
One, she's only thirty three, she's been round four ever.

Speaker 6 (01:28:27):
Has fought everybody. It's absurd. Her her resume is fucking absurd.
And of course was a champion too. But go Dinez,
is it Godenez or go din Yez?

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
Is are the ladder But you know, you know Tomato
Tomato here, j there's.

Speaker 5 (01:28:40):
No there's no there's no Nye here.

Speaker 6 (01:28:42):
So I'm gonna say Godinez either way, loopy to me,
slowly starting to put it together as well. The wrestling
I think is gonna be obviously critical in this matchup.
We'll see what Androge can.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
Do androgeligit losing five of her last seven, but also
a former champion, is it's still like that? That that
puncher's chances is always going to mean a lot. Dan
Henderson had the puncher' chances, who was forty six by.

Speaker 5 (01:29:01):
The way, Yeah, she's elite. You know, she's got power
and she's got jiu jitsu. She she could and at
one fifteen she's I don't I don't see anybody uh
touching her at one fifteen. I'm excited to see her there.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
It might be end of days for a legend. And
Edson Barboso's at the tail end here, but he's arguably
like the best shape of his damn life.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Back to fifty five and.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
Him back to fifty five against Draw kark Close like
I'd watch it. Yeah, hell yeah, let's see what we got.
I don't think Barbosa is that far out of it.
He did send our good friend Billy Q to the
to the subregions, but he's still in there. This is
I love when when they when they just sprinkle on
the names at the end of the card. Let's do it.

Speaker 6 (01:29:39):
This card has that and Drew kar Close, you know,
is a dog. Yeah, I mean he'll fight like a
fucking maniac like that. One should be no matter who wins.
Funny shit right.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
Oh yeah, and you mentioned the Dana White Contender Series
return on Tuesday with the debut there of what was
that Fella's I sent Kaio and he's coming on like
three four days notice and they're going to give him
opportunity to shine here. That should be fun. Now, Luke,
you're much closer to the ultimate fighter than you really
desiree a loser, but two finals coming to this card,
should we know things?

Speaker 7 (01:30:08):
Yeah? I mean I should be the guy to go
to for this because I did technically watch this season.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
Probably did a live.

Speaker 6 (01:30:13):
I can say one thing there is there's a big
regional promotion that's in Kazakhstan that people need to start
paying attention to called Nysa and A I z A
and two of their former fighters, Ali be uh Idiris
and then Daniel don Chenko both came from Nysa.

Speaker 7 (01:30:29):
Okay, all right, Neil. Also that guy that is boys
with Robert Valentine. They did that funny thing during the
ceremonial way in where they like punched arms and flexed.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
And yes, and then they got sent to hell, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
maybe the same for Daniel.

Speaker 7 (01:30:41):
We'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
That's gotta hell. That's gotta suck if you do the
gimmick and then you uh, by the way we were,
we should not be allowed to point down anymore?

Speaker 8 (01:30:49):
Can we?

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
Can we bend that Max Holloway thing? All the fucking
guys doing that?

Speaker 5 (01:30:53):
Yeah? I feel like you might do that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Shift though, I mean, would you do that? What happens?

Speaker 6 (01:30:58):
What happens if you're in a f let me ask QUI.
So you're in a fight, you're up two rounds to one, right,
and you know it like two rounds until you took
him down, beat the fuck out of him. He got
one round where they did the dancing, and then at
the end your opponent does this, What are you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:31:10):
I'm thrown down.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
Right, But yeah, that's what.

Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
I'm talking about. That is then your UFC three to
nineteen pay per view this Saturday from Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
But where are you going to watch the fight?

Speaker 5 (01:31:23):
We'll see. I'm gonna try to stay awake for the
main event. That's that's a young battle. Yeah, I'll I'll
probably be home and watching and gonna just take a
nap during the day. Try to and tell you stand
up for these main events now are tough on these papers.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
East Coast guys. You know we're washed. You know you
will be one day. I'm sorry, it's the truth. One
day that you knock on your door, it's gonna be
old balls. You got to answer it, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
That's very true, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
We had talked before about you coming back. You know,
you're on a two fight skate. It happens here. You've
taken though, it seems like a lot of time off
to recharge. Yeah, you said ideally it'd be msg you know,
we know what you love to do in that cage there.
If you had the choice, who would it be? Come on,
if you had the damn choice.

Speaker 5 (01:32:06):
If I had the choice, you know, so right now
I'm tied with the most fights at Madison Square Garden
with with Michael Chandler and Jim Miller. All three of
us have three fights at the garden. So you know
it would be cool to get one of those guys.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
Imagine Michael Chandler see you at the top.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
That's a good one, dude. The Jim Miller one's good too.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
Come to the table without a huntingdon bias. What is
the betting line on Michael Chandler versus Steamroller?

Speaker 7 (01:32:34):
That's got to be a right pick them. Wow, I
feel like Michael Chandler, I won't get that fight.

Speaker 5 (01:32:38):
Michael Chandler.

Speaker 7 (01:32:39):
Don't giving Michael Tandler.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Chandler is out there shilling already.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
Looke, put some respect on that man. Okay who Black
History months own Michael Chandler. Okay, please thank you?

Speaker 5 (01:32:53):
All Right, we's see. I bet Michael chanler' is gonna
fight McGregor at the White House.

Speaker 6 (01:32:57):
I don't think they're gonna do that. I think they're
gonna go. I think they're gonna call Diaz out of
the bullpen.

Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
Imagine forgot that trilogy. That's wild? Would you be I
know you weren't like jumping to social media. We're like
President Trump, please pick me, but like that's insane to
fight on the White House.

Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
Oh yeah, I want to get a big win at
MSG and then and then we uh, then we get
on the White House.

Speaker 6 (01:33:17):
Oh, let's go, stem If you come to d C,
I'll take you out to eat and then we'll get
shot by the National Guard.

Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
But it's okay, you I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (01:33:25):
Yeah, we can recreate January sixth.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Great, we'll shut on Pelosi's Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
Okay, this was fun. Guys, thank you so much. Shout
out of course, and uh shout out to you the listener.
Please follow and like us. We will be back next
Friday with your typical fan segments of fans of instead
wrong all that stuff you know already. We know, I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
My name is stupid, I'm this guy.

Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
You know how to reach the show, of course with
Morning Combat at gmail dot com. You just saw our
social handles as well. Where can we find the steamroller?

Speaker 7 (01:33:58):
Moving forward? Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:34:00):
Theme roll of for vola on on Instagram, Twitter and
all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
I'm talking about it. You can see his handle on
the screen. Uh, follow him. We're fired up for your return.

Speaker 6 (01:34:11):
We know you're going to bring the so hey, do
us a favor all right if you get on that
MSG card, pop in on studio before during fight week
before we'll do because we have a show on Mondays.
You got plenty of time for the way cut and everything.
Come see us on that Monday, all right, I'll be
here all right.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
Yea one of my favorites. And congratulations to you and
your wife. Continuation there at the start of that for
Vola family. We love to see that. Shout out to
your twin brother, cheez Roller. What do you got to
say about that guy?

Speaker 5 (01:34:38):
Yeah, he's doing good. He's he's helping me with all
my socials and helping me with all my sponsorships. He's uh,
and he always gives me like fight breakdowns too, and
then he gets apponent. He always gets my opponent, like
who I want to fight? He gets like five guys
of possible opponents, and then we give him to my manager.

Speaker 8 (01:34:57):
Love that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
Well, I didn't even tell you this.

Speaker 6 (01:34:59):
So I was in that sleepy little beach town in
the middle of nowhere and a guy I was crossing
the shoes it was it was in Virginia, okay, and
a guy I'm crossing the street and some guy goes
Luke and I turn around.

Speaker 5 (01:35:11):
Do you know who it was?

Speaker 6 (01:35:11):
And I've never met him before. Phil Hawes's brother. Oh wow, brother,
He's like Phil Haw's his brother and he looked like
him too, and I was like holy shit, and uh, anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
All right, good ship. We can't wait to see for
Vola back by the way, Luke. This weekend, can they
catch your post wah?

Speaker 6 (01:35:26):
Yeah, we're gonna do a post fight or a post
fight show, and I do. We're gonna do a full
main card watch along because I haven't done one in
so long, So main card watch along and then immediately
into the post.

Speaker 4 (01:35:34):
No MK tomorrow on Friday. But I will be getting
inside the Box on the BCX at eleven a m
Eastern Long Island. Luke. Can we find you not hanging
out with your girlfriend this weekend?

Speaker 7 (01:35:41):
Yeah, I'll be doing a full card watch along, full card,
not just main cards.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
So everybody's got a podcast, right, Do you have a
podcasts too?

Speaker 5 (01:35:48):
I mean no, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
There you go you're doing well.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
Shout out to coach don't start one. They're terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
Tell coach Ray we love them.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
Okay, big shots to Coach Ray, we love coach right ship.

Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
Thank you for watching. Enjoy the fights on Saturdays, guys,
DDP versus Tremaia if it's going to be great UFC
three nineteen, Thank you. We are out of here.

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