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you today, by the way, as we recap all things,
UFC Atlanta and maybe BC and LT bend over, bend
down and maya kulpa to one kalamru Ousman.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'll say, I'm sorry, I'm not going to bend over.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Mr Usman made our His body will fall apart and
they'll remove him from the octagon for good take look
really bad.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
So it made it look bad on Saturday. I don't
know how like I thought he'd be.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Remember when Archditwo was in Chewbacca's backpack and episode five
in the Cloud City because he was all in different
pieces that me took him apart. Yeah, yeah, I thought
that's what was going to be, Marty you mean three?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Did I screw that up? All right? Either way, dude,
Kamar wispan look good and we're going to talk about that.
Wocking b still have some ques. Main event Rosnami Unis
was back. Also, Richardson Hitchins defended his one hundred and
forty pound title with a big breakthrough tko of George Camps.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Will we say something for a moment about that, just
for a moment. Sure, when Cambosis, who on paper you
know is a fine fighter but nothing special, when he
luck boxed into that.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Win, Okay, he fought his balls off, but he.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Always fights his balls off. The question is not whether
he fights courageously. The question is whether he fights excellently.
And what we had said was he doesn't fight excellently.
He gets this what is now clearly in retrospect and
an unbelievable lucky opportunity to beat a very diminished Tao
and hasn't done anything else since except every time he

(03:58):
goes up against anybody half the elite. He gets worked
like a summer job. Twenty four blank rounds against Haney
to say nothing about this one or about Lomachenko, or
you could just go on down the list. B See,
we were fucking right when we said about him, and
our Australian viewers got super mad at us at the time.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Don't realize one day about the esophagus. I mean it
was a diminished tail.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
That's what I mean about Kamorrow Tomorrow Tomorrow absolutely look
good on Saturday, there's really no question about it. But
Buckley fucked up big time.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
What Luke is basically saying is you'll see in the end.
While he was right from.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
The no no, I definitely no no, There's no question
I misjudged what Usman has left. But I didn't look
at this and think, oh, well that's enough to beat
the top, the very top guy. I don't. I didn't
get that view.

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It did really well, well done. It did really well. Yeah,
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Speaker 2 (05:08):
You should get Tucker Carlson on it.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
I don't have much interest in talking to him.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, maybe I used to.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
I briefly. Here's a little bit of a no no,
here's a bit of a backstory. And I don't know
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I mean, for like a couple of months on a
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and Gary was there, he'd be the Okay, I don't

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I'm good.

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Speaker 2 (05:56):
I'm sure he was, you know.

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Now he had no idea that fight even shout out Miniche.
Miniche joined us on Main Car Minute this weekend. It
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He didn't.

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He didn't have anything with him, so he was faking
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Killing kind of like Luke with the tequila last episode.

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Yea, I had stomach problems that day. I had to
I had to fake it.

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Is this like you're such a super fan of Cannibal
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I didn't say that there was What are you talking
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I think it's time to get into the program today,
So let's do it right now. With topic number one,
UFC Atlanta, A loaded fight, and I from the standpoint
of big names, three former champions on the card, and
a welterweight main event with absolutely legitimate title implications, unless

(07:51):
you were Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell coming in saying listen.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Ambition, were hardly alone.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Listen, ambitious, unk Listen, Uncle Marty. It's cool that you're
talking about fighting for the title next. It's cool to
talk about going up to middleweight after that. But you're
thirty eight, You've been out for so long, blah blah blah. Well,
Kamorrow came in there against a red hot Joaquin Buckley
riding a six fight win streak and in a lot
of ways looked like the Camarrow of own scoring what

(08:17):
we thought or what my eyes thought were victories in
the first four rounds or advantages on the scorecards before
fighting off a late Buckley rally. So Luke, too little,
too late at the end for new Manza. What is
the story? This is a classic question. Is the story
of this fight and Usmann reminding us who he still
is at this weight class for the first time in

(08:37):
four years. More about what he did retooling, taking time
off and proven that he still got it. More about
what Joaquin Buckley didn't do for four rounds when one
takedown was enough to neutralize him completely.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
I'm gonna say fifty to fifty. And I know some
folks want us to get on here in e crow.
I'm happy to crow because the central point that I
think there's no way around is I thought kamar Usman
was going to look not decrepit BC, but like obviously diminished, right,
the power wouldn't be there to do something he had,
any speed, the craftiness, the thirst for the battle itself.

(09:13):
I thought all of it would have just kind of
been shown to be falling apart. And that did not
come true, even with some of the stuff that Buckley
was serving up to him. So I'll definitely take me
a couple on that. There's no question in my mind,
BC after Saturday that you have to regard kamar Usman
as at least having and I would count this bout
as part of it. One more push. I don't know

(09:35):
how far that push goes, and I don't know how
far it lasts, BC, but you're getting one more pull.
You might get more than a push, but what I'm
saying is you're getting one more push at the elite
end of the division. Buckley was at the elite end.
He might get belaw next. If he wins that, he
probably gets a title shott for that, he might get
a title shot next. I'm sure we'll talk about it.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, it's up right now. I don't think he deserves
a title shot next, but I'm one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait, we should
start where we were wrong. We should start there. I
am admitting to a pretty strong degree overestimated how washed
he would look.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
We've kind of seen this equation before in a crossroads fight,
and we knew to believe based on recent history of
what it where it could go. But now I'm wondering.
This is a credit to Kamara Usman, the fact that
he has been so inactive. You did take that fight
two years ago against tamayav and did fight admirably. We
all know if it went five rounds, probably who would
have won that. We can say that over and over.

(10:31):
But even in the fights leading up to that, he
didn't have the same freshness he had in this fight.
And it's a credit to him at this age that
he can turn that back on. But the trends that
he had been on physically suggested a lot of what
we were thinking. I think it was right that he
was the underdog. I think we were wrong for basically
giving him no chance. But it's not normally done like this.
So how much do you think all that time off

(10:54):
repaired what was an increasingly broken down body at the
tail end of it run as the power for Pound
King with that win streak, defending the title as many
times as he did. Once it was over, it seemed
like it was over. Do you think the time away
has really allowed him to find that that new fountain
of youth, you know, not just drive because he had
five round cardio on Saturday as well.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Now, I didn't think that was ever going to be
in question.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I think a guy like I thought it'd be any
question if he wrestled as much as he did.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Right, No, not for me, Not for me.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
You wouldn't say at the at the end he could
have done rounds the tail end of its title reign
that being broken down with injuries and falling too much
in love with his striking, you didn't see dedicated spam
performances like that.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
I'm not so sure I agree with that. What I
what I would say is did he look to a
degree physically restored. Sure, I definitely saw that he looked
physically restored, especially relative to the third Edwards fight, where
I felt like, you know, again, he had good cardio
in that fight too, but he seemed a little to
a gear short, Yeah, a gear short, and this one

(12:03):
he did not. And I think there's probably something to
be said for restoration. Who knows he was on some
kind of pain management protocol that at least for that
night enabled him to perform well. But no, I don't,
I don't think so. I mean, I think that there's
a couple of things about this fight that are really interesting.
We should talk about him a second. Number one, As
you indicated, Kamaru would get one takedown in the first
four rounds and that was the only one he needed.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
And he was dynamic on top with the constant.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
He moved him mount twice and it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Like he was rare enough, but the constant little strikes
were adding up.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
He got those good elbows in at various times. Those
were nice. I mean, he made good use of it.
And also, like you know, Kamaru's Kamarw's ability to control
in that particular dimension is pretty strong. But I couldn't
believe how badly Buckley looked. And we're gonna talk about
that in just a second, but I want to say something.
So I went back and I watched the third Edwards
fight and I was like, how the fuck could Edwards,

(12:55):
who got housed by Sean Brady have looked so good
against Kamaru and then Buckley can't do shit to him?
Basically to now, Buckley looked great in the fifth. I
think we can all agree about that. But as you indicated,
too little, too late, two major differences I saw in
this fight. I haven't seen anybody talk about this. I'm
gonna debut him here on Morning Combat.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
No, no, we got first rights of refusal. So you
know what.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I noticed two things about the differences, and I think
these are actually pretty critical. Number One, Edwards in the
third fight against Kamaru was almost the whole time up
against the fence, even when he wasn't being pressed, sure,
he was just close. So what you noticed from Kamaru
is kamarw does not explode into him. He almost falls
into him and leans into him. And so it's a

(13:38):
because there's where, there's nowhere to charge, and so what
ends up happening is Edwards catches him at the point
of contact and then is able to do his game.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
The Buckley's much more effective in the center.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Of the cage. So what happened. You saw Kamaru hit
him and then run his ass into the fence, and
that gave him much more momentum.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
It gave him a runway for the when he makes
those and he give him credit the quick sharp cuts
to make him down.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Bingo, bingo. It made a huge difference. Number two, the
way in which Edwards stuffed these takedowns or excuse me
or excuse me, once he got taken down, how he
got off the bottom. He showed his back every time
because what that enabled him to do was to get
two hands on one and not allow Kamara to make
a grip. Buckley never did that. He kept trying to

(14:22):
face him the whole time and could never ever build
height as a confert.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Thought of how he was going to get up to
like kick him off with two knees from the bottom.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I mean, which is what you couldn't do if you're
strong enough, Like it's it's possible, but it's very.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Low, smothering and moving.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
So but the way to get up is to basically
think you have you know you're gonna be pressed the
whole time? How are you gonna stand while being pressed? Now,
I'm gonna just bench press them off of me and
then stand. Doesn't work that way. So what I'm trying
to say is, man, I gotta give Edwards some credit.
They really did their homework, and maybe it was accidental
that they kind of just roam that outside rim or
maybe it was intentional, but either way, it diss armed

(15:00):
Kamoru in a way that Buckley was simply unprepared for.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Indeed, Indeed, what a performance ultimately at this age two
years off to go twenty five minutes against a guy
who is this dangerous, has a great motor and is
at this spot. But Luke to talk about the spot
Buckley was at and the wind streak he had coming
in and finishing veterans like Colby Covington and announcing himself
legitimately in play to get a title shot. It wasn't

(15:27):
just too little, too late, where the urgency was finally
there in round five and he was not only able
to stuff takedowns, which was the key to opening up
those striking moments, but he was able to stand in
there in trade that effectiveness was not available to him
in rounds one through four. So when you look back
for a guy in his spot, is it forgivable that
he would lose in this manner to a fighter in
this situation, including age and time off, even though we

(15:50):
are talking about a former found king and one of
the great ones. Is it forgivable the way ultimately that
Buckley performed and managed the rounds?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
No, no, it is not. It is forgivable that he lost.
I'm okay with that. It is not forgivable. And the
question you asked was in the way that he lost. No,
it is not, dude. You've already shown in the first
two rounds. One takedown is enough and even with that,
when you get taken down. One thing that was really

(16:18):
great about Leon Edwards is he would the instant and
you would drop him to his hip, he would pop
right back up. Against Camorrow in the third fight like
the instant that had happened, Buckley didn't have any of that.
He would wait until the position was consolidated and then
try and then simply had no method of getting up
according to normal best practices. But then by round three
he gets picked up on a single leg. It's not finished,

(16:40):
he gets run to the fence, which we just talked
about Kamaru using that as like a runway to really
push the takedown further, and that he's punching his way
Buckley is to defend rather than wrestling through position. Someone
on my postfight show was saying, why are you you know,
why do you get mad when fighters don't fight perfectly?
That's not not perfectly, that's fighting well below professional standard.

(17:06):
Every pro knows do I'm sure you've seen at work
someone tries to take down, the other person punches their
lights out and they drop and then that's the end
of it. There are situations where that can happen. But
as a general rule, if you've been taken down and
held down for ten minutes and they're up on a
single your number one job is to defend the takedown
with high percentage defense techniques, not that. And he punched him.

(17:30):
He tried to punch his way through it. So what
happens he gets sat down again? Not forgivable. Not forgivable
for someone in the top ten of the one hundred and
seventy pounds of the UFC's Walterweay division. In a massive
bout of consequence to perform like that. I don't mind
that he lost PC. I really don't when they lose.
But people will be like, oh, you're being too hard
on him. I don't think that I am. I don't

(17:51):
think that I am.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
It's not like I thought of him as a guy
who's completely well rounded. He's always leaned toward the power
of the explosiveness, the threat of the knockout, and I
think he has elevated his striking to be able to
disguise certain setups and land huge shots. There's no question.
I can't defend that what he was able to or
what he was not able to do on the ground,

(18:13):
there's no question about that. Do you think in hindsight,
if we're trying to see pieces that were there that
we didn't notice it, did he show Kamara Usman too
much respect? Like in their face off where he's fan boying.
He didn't think so on Friday, but he didn't show
Colby Covington that respect, right, there was little contention there.
He got him the hell out of there. Do you
think in hindsight, new Man's might say, maybe I looked
at him too much as a as a hero.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
I'm going in again, dude. In the post fight. He
put out a post fight video, and I can appreciate,
you know, Dominic Cruz said, and we have it right, Yeah,
I think we have just his statement, okay, which could
be the same thing in terms of text. But Dominic
Crue said, he's going to learn a lot from this,
and Buckley is just thirty one. I'm not writing them off.
I'm not writing them off, but I'm not going to
give him. I'm not going to grade on a curve here,

(18:54):
you know, if you're going to be fighting guys. Where
did he not say if he won this he was
potentially in line for a number one contenders. I'm gonna
grade at a high level when I watch fights like that,
and the way in which it's not just that BCE
like with his stand up. His stand up is obviously formidable,
his power is real. And he did, by the way,
have good five round cardio. Yes, we should say that
he always has. So I was very happy with that.

(19:14):
I was like, Okay, he's got good run cardio and
he tries, and I appreciate that as well, But don't
you feel like watching his stand up it feels a
little disorganized, Yes, feels like he's just kind of throwing
stuff at the wall, and not a whole lot of
it is planned or set up or thoughtfully put together.
Like he's obviously got a lot of ability, clearly has
a lot of ability, and he is the guy who's delivered,

(19:36):
in my mind, arguably the single greatest knockout in MA history.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Like that what we're talking about, rebranded himself in a
new division with the wind Streak run it.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I'm not writing them off, but I think he has
to take a long look in the mirror. Even if
he was happy with how this went in terms of
you know, pinch me moment in my career, you have
to look at this and say, there are significant areas
of improvement that have to happen if you want to
beat the Brady's, the Monovs, whoever.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
He still don't have time in that regard. I'm not
saying he does, but it's like, look at Kamara Usman.
I know it's a different story, a different financial bracket
when you consider Usman's a play per view veteran and
a former champion, But that dude's got Trevor Whitman and
Henry hoofton his corner, among others.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
You know what I mean, so are we Lord Santiago
also know all this of him a very very good
fire George.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's a super team in many ways. Are we looking
at Buckley's arc and the gyms that he's went to
and who is he with now and say that maybe
he still hasn't found the.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Right There was something to be said for the fact
that I guess I didn't see it, but people were
telling me. One of his cornermen was on I think
Demetris Johnson's podcast and said that he still works full
time at Panera. Now, of course, you know, you gotta
do what you gotta do to make against meat and
being You can be a great coach, but if the
economics of it aren't great, you're gonna have to do
what you have to do. So I'm not going to
be a spirtch your man for having an honest job
and doing his best. He might be great. What I
am going to say is.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Great at the all of them.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
What I'm going to say is Buckley has to take
a look at that and realize that was a winnable
fight or certainly a much could have gotten much different scores.
And the level at which he was doing foundational things
is not acceptable for an elite prize fighter, period, and
whatever the solution is to that is the solution to him.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
But now's the time to find that. Let's see the
statement put out there by one Joaquin Buckley on this performance.
That's small limit.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I don't have my glasses. I can read this back
one hand. Wasn't raised last night, but I am still
victorious and will be one of the greats. The trip
has been beyond amazing, and I wouldn't change a thing
that happened in my fight camp. Everything was perfectly planned.
I just didn't execute like I know I could. We
wanted to land early damage on Usman and get him
moving back, but he did a good job neutralizing threats
with takedowns so well. I mean, okay, but don't get

(21:41):
a twisted Usman was more concerned about holding me than
hurting me in this fight, but he did what he
felt was necessary to win, and so that can't be
mad at that. Congrats. Blah blah blah. Excited about the beat.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
He felt like a veteran. He controlled it, but he
was also dude.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I said this, I said this on Saturday night, Long Island. Luke,
tell me if this is sure or false. Ready, the
way in which Uspan fought, he didn't show you anything new.
He didn't see a damn thing new from him. But
what he did do was fight very efficiently in his
bread and butter style of his game, which I think
he can do if it comes that easy, he can
do forever true or false true.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, And he didn't. He didn't lean on his striking
this time. It was the threat of the takedown, which
was the original thing that made him great. Even if
we can't expect him to be as aggressive as he
was in his prime and when he was climbing to
the belt, he's got that level of cardio and that
level of ability, especially against a wrestler who doesn't have it,
to dominate in the way he did, then what can
we say about him negative? I mean, dom Cruse was

(22:39):
against Buckley Hart on the on the broad not against him,
but was critical from his role as analyst and saying
it looks like Buckley was never in these situations in camp.
That's that's pretty that's a pretty damning statement. I hope
that's not true for him, but either way, it's it's
the big wake up close.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
This is what I'm saying. People want to pin in
on his coach just because his coach has a has
a you know, a job, that could be a distraction.
And I'm trying to explain to them maybe that is.
But maybe it's just on him.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Maybe it's just a guy who didn't perform the way
he needed to.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, look, we don't talk enough about good moments, whether
it's busheto or inspirational moments. In mma, Usman had to
go through a lot of doubt. It went through a
lot of injury recovery to try to get back to
where he is now. Took an additional two years off
after that Jamaiah fight, and here we are, here's Usman
talking from a mental side about that journey.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
I know it's been a while. I know it's been
a while. And after the last one going up against
a young, strong, hungry guy, one of the most you know,
just kind of dangerous and terrifying guys, and I was
dealing with some things going into that one, but I

(23:49):
took the fight on short notice. And because of that fight,
it's almost like they forgot I could fucking wrestle, and
they got dismissive, you know, And the little borderline disrespectful,
but I just had to pull out the skill and
just let him know, hey, respect every aspect of my game,
every aspect swimming. It's hard. I mean it's been a while.

(24:14):
It's uh, not just with getting back in here, but
obviously getting in the win column, battle with a lot
of things just to get here, just repairing my body,
just physically personally, a lot of things that I had
to just kind of I guess expression would be fight

(24:38):
a lot of demons just to get back in here.
But yeah, a lot that I had to go through.
But thankfully, I'm blessed with a great team, great support system,

(24:58):
great family, and I'm back here. So I just want to,
you know, recognize them. I want to recognize my family,
my mom, dad, brothers, sister, Tea baby, Sammy, Lulu, zena baby.
I love you guys, my coaches, Henry Trevor, George, Ben, teammates,

(25:28):
Justin Archie, all these guys, uh, you know, even guys
down there at kill Cliff. I love and I appreciate it.
And every one of you guys, whether you knew it
or not, they played a big, big factor in this tonight.
So I just want to say I'm thankful.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
But look, you could really hear the emotion in him
and hear what he battled through, and it does make
me feel like a dick for using the locker room
side of our show breakdown, which is you know, part
of our part of what we do, and being like, nah, man,
it's not going to happen. History shows that he's not
supposed to have that performance in that moment. But when
you hear him talk about the injuries, it was a

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diminished version of him. This time off has done him
well to hear the emotions that go into that and
the disrespect that yes he had to read on the
internet or hear from people like us straight from the basement,
that I do feel it in this moment. I give
him full respect.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
My understanding as well. I don't know much beyond what
I've been told secondhand, so I'm not going to repeat
a bunch of it, but my understanding is just in
a very euphemistic level. He's also had a series of
personal issues to deal with. Uh, you know, I'll just
leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
So that that changes. Yeah, a fighter's focus and ability
everything interest.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
It requires a lot of bandwidth to you know, to
lean it to to to.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Depends on the person, right, some people can tune it
out that.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
I don't mean like substance like that, nothing like that,
just just just some life stuff. But long story short, dude,
he had a nice win on Saturday. He had a
nice win and to see to see him back, you know,
and again it was more just the old dog didn't
have any new tricks. But the old dog still a

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tough bastard, is he not.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Each especially if he take you down and lean on
you and and and get and work, you know, pull
the air out of that balloon.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
It was. It would be a thirty eight year old
welterweight coming off of three back to back to back
losses and a two year layoff. You know, I'm sorry,
but like under normal circumstances, you'd be like, this is
not an ingredient for winning. We're also talking about the
second best welterweight of all time exactly. He defies the rules.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
So yeah, I should have put more respect on his name.
That retard, I was a lot of people want him
against bal Mohammad. Next, there is that podcast incident that
happened leading into the bal Mohammad title fight with JDM,
where look am I getting it right. Apparently they did
the podcast in person. They had the cameras rolling. There
was some trash talk that developed back and forth that
started friendly but went a little more between Belal and Kamaru,

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and it actually turned.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Into a fight, that's my understanding.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
And then they just decide we're never going to show
the footage, right because it does that lead you No,
I'm not taking side her, but does does it lead
you to believe that maybe Belal won that sequence? And
that's why that footage never came out.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
They're all a la guys. I wonder if it was
just a way to broke her peace. I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Okay, either way, you would think that could be next.
I could just as just as much. Luke argue that
Chodcock coming back from injury is the perfect fight for Kamorrow.
Winner gets the next title shot in line.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Well, now it's kind of complicated. I don't know what
the hell.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
The I do Brady versus h Sean versus what's Ary
Philly with no Sean Brady, but that Gary versus sorry
Brady versus Gary? Yes, talking myself into a ship into it?

Speaker 6 (28:47):
What?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Obviously that's going to leave.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Out Balal.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Listen, what about Edwards rematch a fourth Edward?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
No?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
No, no, Edwards versus ballall to keep.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
I don't have any interest in it. I want to
see Bela versus Kamaru.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Okay, you do?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
You do? I bet UFC does too.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
I think that's the only fight anyone wants to see,
like Belalan realistic.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
But that's not the fight Kamara Watson. We have video
to prove it, and I have to ask you.

Speaker 8 (29:15):
I know, I think I know what you're gonna say.
But below, Mohammad quickly tweeted soon, I know your eyes
are on a title fight.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
That's also a pretty big fight.

Speaker 8 (29:25):
Former champ for former champ. Is that something you would
entertain if you?

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (29:33):
Below Mohammed husa former welterweight champion. Below Mohammed Next, you
can't remember the name at all? Look apparently, Hey, you
ever heard about that name?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Balao Mahomet Over there.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Our final piece of video is Usman believing Luke he
may have already earned that title shot and look for
someone in his spot with that name. Depending on the
person they might have, I just think the divisions too
crowded for him to go.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Let's be honest. I'm the biggest in the division, you know,
And this is about entertainment. The UFC is an entertainment company.
You want to make the biggest fight. It's going to
be the winner of JDM and Islam. You know, if
Islam pulls that one out former pound for pound, current
pound for pound, who doesn't pay for that?

Speaker 9 (30:20):
You feel like, basically tonight you got yourself a title show.
You get yourself the winner of JDM Islam.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
I mean you don't feel like that.

Speaker 9 (30:27):
Who else you're the biggest name?

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yeah, okay, thank you, But I'm asking you, Oh yeah,
for sure. JDM is no slops. Let's not look past JDM.
I said that in his last fight, and he went
out there and he showed you guys, don't look past him.
He's very very talented. Islam is extremely talented. I love Islam.
I think him coming in makes that division a lot
lot more interesting. So if he's able to get in

(30:50):
there and get to wrestle that belt away from JDM
former pound for pound current pound for pound, I mean,
I think everybody wants to watch that.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
So yeah, So, Luke, you prefer Bellaal versus Usman, And
I'm certainly not against it. If it goes that way,
and we already know JDM versus Islam is likely next.
What would you do then with the other relevant players?
What would you do with Gary Brady? What would you
do with shaf Copp?

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I don't know. I really don't know what the answer is. Yeah,
so in a perfect world, in a perfect world, here's
what I would say. So you obviously got Islam JDM,
so they're across them off the list like you Brady, Gary,
I think that's just a fight to make. But now
it gets real hard.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Leon.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
I think you could do shaf cot Leon, But if
you're Leon, that is a tough fucking consolation prize.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
You're damn right.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
But I think Long Island Lou's got some ideas. What
do you have?

Speaker 6 (31:46):
I was just gonna say, we're forgetting about Like Michael
Morales is in this mix too.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
He's a little bit on the outside looking in.

Speaker 7 (31:50):
Though, but he's number eight.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I mean, doesn't he still need like a WonderBoy type?

Speaker 4 (31:54):
I think, just.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
Quickly, Leon versus Michael Morales is the I think, Okay.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
So what do you do with what do you do
with Kamara? What do you do with ballall? Put them
together tomorrow? Can fight.

Speaker 6 (32:07):
Yes, yeah, fuck, but I don't even want to see that.
I feel like that doesn't tell me enough about where
they're both at.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Well, the best way to find out is have them
fight each O.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Might it might? I don't know.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
I want to see Shafcott tested against like Sean Brady,
but I know he might not be ready for that,
and I do really want to see Brady versus Gary's if.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
If I'm not saying I'm not trying to say Usman's
the easiest one of the group, But what I'm trying
to say is if shavcut or not getting the immediate
title shot when he's already secured it but he got injured,
it was I guess his fault in a way, not
not really, but you know, things happen whatever. Then isn't
that the salt. I don't want to say the softest
landing because I don't mean that, but I mean I'm

(32:46):
not against that if you go shaf cut Kamala right now,
because if you're not going to give Shofcutt the title shot,
then give him the big name former champion.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah. Reality is there's only a couple of fights that
interest me. With Bealal versus ex or Bealaliverus. Why But
to Kamaru's credit, there's actually a bunch that could work
right now. There was not a trilogy with Colby's another
trilogy with Colby. Also, we didn't say this, dude, how
fucking washed is Colby? Real wash dude? Because I went
back and I watched that fight. Buckley resisted what he

(33:15):
was doing.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
How did you not know that from the Mosfootal fight.
To be fair, that's where I never thought even people
were giving Colby a chance in his last few fights
under that, well, what if he rustles him for twenty
four minutes and controls him. He doesn't do that. He
didn't bring a threat to the table.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
I didn't think it was that far gone. It's gone,
Like the Colby could do not quite he got one takedown.
He could do almost nothing to Buckley. Camaro could do
whatever he wanted. It was such a huge difference between them.
So I just want to point it out there, like
Colby's in a bad play, dude, Listen, we're like and
I get that he's lost a bunch and he's not
relevant necessarily, but like, you know, you still think Alwa's

(33:51):
got a bit of a name. We're not even talking
about him other than oh my god.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Who just called him out?

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Is it Kevin Hollan.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
No, Michael Key kind of suggested he might, but then
was not going to.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Kevin Holland was straight up cold.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah. I picked Kevin Holland over Colby. What do you
think Long Island?

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I don't think that's a debate.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
No, I like that, But I also I want to
see Jaquem Buckley Kevin Holland rematch.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Now I won seventy.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I'm not against that either.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
I'm not a post to that, but at some point
he needs to meet another wrestler, maybe in a fighter two.
We need to see what he's been working on. Because
that was real bad on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
It was real bad, all right. I just wanted to
remind everybody out there that now, right now is a
good time as any to remember where Tequila's story truly began.
You know, I'm talking about seventeen ninety five, when Cuervo
invented tequila. Since then, Kuervo has stayed true to its roots,
same family, the same land, and of course that same passion.
Two hundred and thirty years later, Quervo still right here, folks,

(34:50):
and every poor and every margarita in every celebration. So
enjoy the tequila that started at all Quervo, the tequila
that invented tequila Oximo Cuervo dot com. Please drink responsibly, Luke,
The next pregame preview on Morning Combat, brought to you
by Buervo, is not that far away, considering we've got
two pay per views in June. We're heading up to

(35:13):
if W, which is going to be June twenty eighth,
UFC three seventeen. That should be a fun pregame preview.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
It should be a very good pregame.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
We're figuring out the third man at the moment, or
woman or child, whoever's.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
We should get a woman to do that with us.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
But I don't think we know is female friendly.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I really have to can be.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
I really have to blame all of our fans who
hate women for that, Luke, Luke Thomas. Yeah, we landed
the plate. All right, there we go. Hey, back to
the show. Here, let me find where I was looking at?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, good thing. You don't have a computer and use
your phone?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
No, I just use my phone like any any educated
person these days. Topic number two. We stay at UFC
Atlanta on Saturday night and the cole main event, former
two times straweight champion rosenama units was looking to break
out from a two to two run after moving up
to one hundred and twenty five pounds. She did welcome
in former training partner Miranda Maverick, who was riding a
four fight winning streak of her own. In the end,

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Rose would take a close fight on the least was
perceived on the scorecards entering the third round and really
left no doubt with her control with her top position
without striking Maverick considerably to win going away, but she
was also the favorite to do it in the sixth
Rink fighter welcoming the twelfth Rink fighter Luke Thomas. The

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larger topic surrounding Rose and has been for a few fights.
How much did this performance change that topic? Do we
believe at the moment that Rose nama Unis looks like
a future champion at flyweight following this performance or title
contender at the very least?

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I want to be careful about this because under no
circumstance did I look at this fight and ever think
Rose looked bad. I didn't think she looked lost. I
didn't think she looked out of ideas. I didn't think
she looked like she was did not look to me
at all like she had any issues with her conditioning.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
She kind of had that edge back in terms of
like punching off the brake, and.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
It just seemed clear she knew what she wanted to
do as well and then was very good for the
most part at delivering it. It's just hard for me
to look at this fight and be like, ah, here
we go, battle contender, like this is the one. This
was the performance I was waiting for. It was a
perfectly fine, competent, nay even good performance I think from

(37:28):
Rose nama Unis, But I don't know. It's still kind
of left me in the same position that we went in.
I knew, I know that she can beat good fighters.
I know she can beat very good fighters. I just
don't know if she can beat the elite anymore. So,
like I'm not saying this was a waste of time
per se, but it doesn't to me. Maybe you feel differently.
It did not bring me to a place where I'm like, aha,

(37:51):
now I've seen enough, Now I learned something. I didn't
get that closer.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
To that place, and for you know, to be a
super fan of somebody, I feel you have to be
their biggest critic, cannot be lost on it. And there's
been times on this one twenty five journey where I'm
just like, I don't think she's gonna get it. She's
missing something that was there at one p fifteen. It's
not here at one twenty five. There was an improvement
in that conversation, and I don't want to say the
improvement was because she thought somebody that's less her to

(38:15):
her recent opponents maravarek Luke as we like to call
her because we can't speak English. She fought well. She's
limited to a certain degree, but she used her physicality
and particularly on the ground in those transitions and that
submission attempt, she made it gnarley for a second, like
she was in this fight. I like the way largely
that Rose responded, but I still feel like Rose gets

(38:37):
hit too much at this weight class, continued compared to
the free flowing movement that she showed at one one five.
Maybe that's a footwork issue with the added weight on
and just trying to find that right balance. I'm not
sure I thought the killer instinct was back yet. I
don't know if I still see a dominant fighter there.
Maybe that's too much to ask. She's in the second

(38:58):
chapter of her career. She's thirty two years old, She's
been through with some very tough fights. All in all,
she didn't give me reason to say we're going in
a backwards direction. I just think we're still moving in increments.
I do say this, though not as an apologist. Would
you agree with me that if you do look back
at her losses in this division? Right, I have no
problem with the wins over hebas And why can I

(39:19):
never remember her name when I need it? Tracy Cortes,
even though again I thought she got hit a little
bit too much. Would you say that both the Fireau
loss in which she broke her pinky in the first
round and needed another full round to sort of recover
mentally and then kind of put it on her a
little bit and the Blanche Field loss in which she
was up three to nothing at that point and then
kind of got outworked or I thought she was up
three nothing and then gets outworked over the final three

(39:41):
rounds and loses. That's that's not a the way she
lost those They're not air reparable in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, I mean to the to the point you're raising
like none of these things are if this is not
like Buckley showing up and you're like, you know, you're
well below the elite standard. This is totally in keeping
an elite standard. As a matter of fact. It's just
that we keep looking for signs of a spark, signs
of magic, signs of ascension, signs of something transforming our

(40:11):
understanding of it or how we think we understand it,
and she just keeps delivering super solid, super competent performances.
It seemed to confirm what we already think to be true.
Now again, we thought that Kamara was going to look
like an old washed, you know nothing coming into Saturday,
and that wasn't true. So our assumptions are only good
as you know, fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I suppose her offensive wrestling was there. That was nice
to see.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
We got some sound from Rose grading her performance. Let's
listen in on the Thug and former two time champion.

Speaker 10 (40:41):
I was really happy with my, uh just my ability
to just go out there and fight and not just
worry about being perfect, you know. So there was moments
obviously where I felt like I was kind of thinking
a little bit but I just I was really proud
of myself that I just kind of let it go
and just uh not, don't worry about the outcome so

(41:03):
much and just fight.

Speaker 9 (41:04):
Yeah, you've trained with her in the past, so the
ways that you guys have trained obviously that stays in
the in the gym. But now that it's done, was
it more or less what it what it looked like inspiring?
And when you guys trained together.

Speaker 10 (41:16):
You know, uh, there was I think it was more
or less uh she. I think in training she was
a little more tentative on the feet, more like backwards stepping,
like there was maybe only a couple of times where
she would come forward a little bit. In the fight,
she was a little bit more aggressive in the second round,
I think from my memory.

Speaker 7 (41:37):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 10 (41:39):
Would say it would always be a very like, uh
she would shoot more I think too in training. So
so that was something a little different, I think. And
I think that uh I grapple with her more in
this fight than than in training.

Speaker 8 (41:57):
So you we talked about you training with Miranda, was
that something you'd be willing to go back and do
now that this fight's over?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Period off?

Speaker 10 (42:06):
I think, So, you know, she's a great training partner,
like she's uh yeah, uh. She actually mentioned that in
the cave.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
That's a Jed Mishue there live and local and like
breaking in Atlanta on the scene.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Do you think you can play the mouth harp, that's
the one that goes boying, boying, booying in your mouth
you we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I think I do. But I also have you never
heard of a mouth harp in sexual connotation?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I guess, but a mouth harp and sexual connotation?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Well, I thought that's where you were going. You tend
to go there in terms of your T shirt choices,
so we'll see it at them's from Donks right there.
But yeah, look, let's get the fresh opinion separate from
the two of us who tend to uh, I don't know, uh,
give me a give me a current stock on Rose.
After that victory, which wasn't easy, she pulled it off.
Though she surged in the third round. She was the
dominant fighter.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
I think name value alone, like we could see road.
I don't know if this performance, if she could get
a title shot. I guess if everything fell into place,
I think, like, dude, you put her against Alexa Grosso
like another I want.

Speaker 7 (43:07):
Another former champ. You got her a nice win. She
gets the title shot right after that.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
I'd be cool with that.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
That is, even though Grosso's did she snap the losing
streak last time? No, she lost now, so it's continued down.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
She just lost in Natalia Silva.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yep, that's right. In a number one tender fight. It'd
be weird that Rose is coming up right now as
as as she's coming down, But it seems like the
right fight to really get a test.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Actually, I think that's a great call.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
How would we map the division out around that? Are we?
I guess we to answer that question, we need to
figure out if Chevchenko is going in the direction of
Jeong Way Lee next moving up from one one point fifteen,
or if Natalia Silva has held down with that victory
over Grosso the number one contender spot.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah, I don't know how to answer that, But assuming
that it's Silva, I well, you could still make it
either way.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Now, how do we do because Blanchfield versus Barber was
supposed to give us some very key information about uh,
who's coming and going? What that that not happening? Do
we It doesn't look like Blanche wants to go in
that direction again, so you're not running back Rose and
Blandfield again. Necessarily, there's enough names in and around this.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
If they go Jeong WILEI, they can go Blanchfield Silva,
winner of that.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Cat there too.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Jazz Divisius is right next to her in the rankings,
so you could absolutely do Rose versus Jasmine. And by
the way, Jasmine coming off of another great win, she
looks to be in the best shape and form of
her career. That actually could be a really interesting fight.
But I do agree that the Grosso fight, although I'm
not so sure. Grosso's in the down swing Jazz Divisius
is on the upswing. I might like the Jasmine fight better.
To be honest with you, either of those works.

Speaker 7 (44:31):
Thatf your Rose, though you want the Grosso for sure.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be a quicker path to the
top with the name value right there. But restorative, yes, restorative,
restorative win just just not perfect. We don't know if
she ends up there. But the elephant in the room
or in the training corner. Luke is the internet's obsession
slash hatred of Pat Berry in general as her fiance
slash coach, but more particularly the run at flyweight that

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he has been positioned almost to the head coaching role.
There are other names and voices in her corner. Chico
KMA's former UFC fighter's been with her forever as a
training partner. But Trevor Whitman was a big part of her.
She's had many sort of resurrections in her career. He
was a big part of getting her to the top
of that one fifteen division twice. So Luke, he was

(45:17):
in the building just in Usmann's corner. Are we too
critical of Rose and her corner and biproxy pat Berry
in general when we're asking Rose in a new division
to show that same thing that made her great in
the former one, When not only does this take time,
but are the are the issues we've had with Rose
at twenty five? Her fault? Coach's fault? How do we

(45:38):
put this to bed?

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah, I mean, it's the situation is that there are
people who are making accusations, and again to what extent
there's you know, a trail of evidences so that you
can decide for yourself, but there's at least accusations, not
without some degree of you know, merit, but that you
know she was essentially groomed young age.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I wasn't going there.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
No, I'm not making it not I'm not. I'm not
telling you I endorsed the theory. What I'm I'm trying
I actually have never studied it very closely.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
I mean, Seline Dion's manager was definitely grooming her.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
The problem, the problem, the reason why I have to
bring it up and why it's relevant is because that
is enough of a charge, at least to some of
the fan base, such that Rose's career flags to any
degree and there's automatically a tying of that together. I'm
not to say that losing Whitman is somehow auditioned by subtraction,
or yeah, exactly by addition, by subtraction. That's I don't

(46:33):
I don't know. What I'm just trying to point out
is people need to be as careful as they can
in teasing out theories of decline. It could well be
her coaches, it could well have nothing to do with this.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
There's also a tougher division right now with bigger fighters,
so there's part of that adjustment.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
And she's older and has more miles on her She's.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Fought some of the best coming in She's fought tough competition.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Right, I mean this idea that it's like automatically the
coaching staff's fault. Again, I'm not here to exonerate them.
I'm not saying that. I but this like, oh, we
we have these issues related to these matters which are
unrelated or at least seemingly unrelated to performance, could be
unrelated to performance. And I'm just saying the level of
evidence that people employ to make these conclusions sometimes seem

(47:15):
a little lacking to me, but it's a it's a
question worth at least asking, would.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
You buy pickles from random Maverick? Moving forward, I don't
get the joke she sells pickles on the side. You
remember when Long Island Luke told you that on the
last episode.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
I think I vaguely do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, try sure.
I like pickles, you know what I like? I like
corna chons.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
I like those no pickles to me or the devil.
But that's okay.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
They're just cucumbers soaked in vinegar.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
It's just it's right through them.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
What does that mean? I see through pickles.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
They're really cucumbers and desize disguise. And that's my mortal enemy.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I was forced I don't think anyone hides that fact,
do they?

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Most of my life they.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Were so basically if anything like, you don't like anything savice.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
I don't. I don't know at that reference means.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Bathed in acid. It's cooked and acid.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Carbonic, or more like.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
You never shrimp, you never had fucking I don't like shrimp,
but you know it's okay. Well, I didn't realize I
was dealing someone who has the palette of a toddler, right,
because I don't get some get some chicken nuggets and
a happy meal for you.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
It could be said you currently have the musical palette
of a toddler.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I don't think that's right. I don't think toddlers have
musical palettes like mine.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Okay, you have the musical palette of somebody who had
heard of toddler. Okay, let's go to the topic number three.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Ham I couldn't even muster a responsible.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
About the rest of UFC Atlanta. And there are a
few big bullet points to talk about for a card
that kind of started red hot in the prelim level
with big finishes, did peter out a little bit from
the standpoint of decisions, booing from the crowd and a
few fights in a row that there was fouls and
that really you know, decisions because of that. So Luke,
let's talk at the top here. Malcolm well Maker, who

(48:54):
was not on the top of the card, had a
great homecoming moment from two hours away there in Atlanta.
But continue the streak he's on as Chris Mutino's well
publicized comeback to the UFC ended as violently as possible,
a absolutely gorgeous sort of check left hook to remove
him from his senses. Luke Thomas, this well Maker hype train,

(49:16):
which I was not even aware was at the station.
Holy shit, I'm aware now, Luke. Good lord, this guy's
looking exciting. There's a difference between exciting and being the goods.
But for another step on the ladder, that's about as
good as it gets.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
He has a Contender Series fight in two UFC fights,
and all of them he's won via first round. Ko.
Let me just say this, first of all, I don't
think Chris I mean, you know, I'm not trying to
take away money out of some guy's pocketbook, but I
think Chris Moutino is gonna get real fucking hurt fighting
in UFC. Yes, he looks deeply unprepared for this level.
And you know, all that time off and I didn't
see how long was the fight? Two minutes and thirty

(49:50):
seven seconds. For two minutes and thirty seven seconds, I
did not see any evidence of defensive improvement.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Saying it was Phil Brooks versus Micky gall.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Slightly better than Phil brook not much, you know, not much,
it was. I'm not even trying to be a dick.
I'm saying, if he keeps taking fights in UFC, there's
a very strong possibility he's gonna get really badly hurt.
He's not, He's like, so.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
The five stoppage is on the regional level. To get
back here, that's sort of the super Bowl. He's gotten as.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Far as he can get, in your eyes, I don't
know how much better he can get. I don't know
what his training looks like. I'm just telling you where
he's at right now, and where he's at right now
is a place that's going to get him hurt real bad.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
So he's not with nobody.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I like Tyson Chardier, but I'm sorry, Chris Moutina looks
like he's in rough shape.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
I mean, but but well maker.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Though, okay, well, maker. To my point, they got to
stop feeding him kids like this. He's hurting these fucking
guys badly. They need to give him a bumping competition
for his competition's sake, Yes, because he's just steam rolling them.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
No, cita, have you backed this guy from the very
beginning on your deep undercardes?

Speaker 10 (50:51):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (50:51):
No, I gotta be honest, but I like, he was
obviously really hype coming into this. He was also the
hometown guy.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
So sure.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
Also Chris Mautino, Yeah, he was on that five fight
finish streak or whatever. Dissecting the records.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Of his opponents.

Speaker 7 (51:02):
Oh no, they're all like under five hundred.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
It's pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Okay, So you know, there's you know.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
The regional scene has value, but like anything else, it's
there's limits to it as well. And I appreciate, listen,
I appreciate that he went back out there and got
after it and tried to win and did nothing but win.
But he came back looking like there was no difference
in his ability to avoid punishment. And you fight like
that at this level and you're gonna get real fucking hurt.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
All right, all right, Luke, let's go to the Middlewaight
division quickly on this did the Armenian Edmund Schabazian look
like he's fixed a lot of the glitches. And this
decision went over Andre Petrowski that was thirty to twenty
seven on two of the scorecards. He didn't fold late.
It looked like his body was the most sort of
built in balance that I've seen him. Sometimes he's awkward

(51:44):
in there, and.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
He got the way you got those ribs that poke
out like you're near to ritter.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
He's more solid than I've ever seen from him, and
he carried out a good game plan. What's what's to
say negative here?

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah? No, I think I would largely agree with that.
I think, you know Eric Nixck being in this corner,
it just seemed to me BC he fought. We talked
about Camarrow fighting an efficient fight. I thought, in general,
you saw a disciplined, efficient fight.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
The kitchen sink on every combination and had those.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
One twos were landing real nicely, and then he would
kind of put some pressure, but he wouldn't go crazy
following up, which I was like, Okay, this is better.
So they clearly got him to fight more strategically, and
I think that's going to pay dividends how far he
can go with this. It moves him to fifteen and
five on his record, which is not nothing. I guess
we'll see, you know, he's he It reminded me of Rose.

(52:34):
It was like maybe maybe a little bit more than that.
I think he fought a disciplined enough where I was like, okay,
this is interesting, but you know, this is also a
guy that finished Brat tavaresn't around. It's like, we are
we in a better place than that. I mean in
certain ways we're in a better place than that, but
in other ways we're not. You know, So it's I
don't know, it's still a weird place for me.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I'm with you on that one. The third former champion
on this card, Cody Garbrant bantam wait, had a two
fight wins streak that was recently stopped with a loss.
This was supposed to be the one he turned it
around against a streaking veteran on Ioni Barcelos. So I
didn't put the respect on for what he had done
to Peyton Talbot in the two fight win streak. He
brought in Luke, this is a weird fight because for

(53:13):
five minutes it looked like somebody had like relt the
old flame inside of Cody. We saw the celebrating, we
saw the robot, We saw like all these weird sort
of cocks fast you got the corn rows. He looked
fit like for a second you were seeing flashes of
the or on him. Okay, a little bit, but I'm
saying with the new tats, with everything that he had menaced,

(53:35):
he had swagger. He hadn't been fighting with that in
this losing streak. Some of his losses were just like
two cocky getting in brawls, like the you know, del
Shaw knockouts. But then other times, I don't know, I
didn't see this focus. But whatever he had in round
one didn't seem sustainable. He didn't necessarily fall apart, but
slowly but surely he let go of the reins as

(53:56):
Barcelos rallied and was able in the end to pull
off a very close decision. I mean, there's not much
lower you can get for Garbrand from the heights that
he was that we always compare him to. But this
felt like a win that was in his hands that
just got slippery and it fell and it slipped out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
I keep seeing people on the internet being like my god,
how could this happen? How did we get here? You know,
he loses three and never recovers, and I'm like, why
is that surprise? Like, how long you've been watching fights, dude?
That can happen to you after one KO, much less
back to back to back KOs. Like, I'm very, very
surprised that people are surprised by this. People like, well,

(54:33):
where would you pinpoint in the resume where things went wrong?
And I'm like that, plus add to the fact number
one he got stopped flatlined in the Amateurs as well. Yeah,
so you have now you know, multiple times you've been
put out on this.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
And some people never recover from it.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
I'm telling you, dude, you can never recover from certain rounds.
I say this before David L. Wazzo getting beaten up
by Rich Franklin. He did not recover from that. His
career was never the same after that. Guys you might
see take three, four or five KOs and they still
fight with the same kind of reckless abandon You do
not realize how special and rare that is. You take

(55:08):
it for granted because we just that's that's just what
they do. But these guys are they're humans, they're fragiles
and even if this chin is not completely busted. The
psyche though, what it means to have your lights put out,
what it means to have been touched touched that way?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Does that explain how he looked amazing in one round
and then just averages he got out working?

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Can't? It seems to me that there's real psychological barriers
to letting himself go, because when he does, it's reckless
enough where he knows he's going to get stopped, so
he doesn't know how to calibrate it anymore. And I
think he does have concerns about the chin's sturdiness, and
also you know he's to add on to a BC.
I know he's had other health problems associated with it. Listen,
I'm not celebrating his decline and I don't have It

(55:50):
doesn't make me feel good. But the people acting like, oh,
it's very surprising, There's there's not a single thing surprising
about it. Damage is poison in your career, and some
people be se have different tolerance for the poisons, but
it's poisoned.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
A three straight wins now for Barcelos. This is a
fun little late career search from him. He had a
name ready though after the fight to call it out.
Let's hear from.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Him from a victor here.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
He's so much.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
He pushed on.

Speaker 11 (56:30):
I think it was definitely the biggest win in my career.
It was a great fight. Uh, Cody was in great
form and we put on a great fight.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Yeah, you hit him with some hard shots.

Speaker 9 (56:41):
Were you surprised that he was able to take them
and see the fight out?

Speaker 4 (56:53):
Helmscian you touk.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
An hour after.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Benja.

Speaker 11 (57:08):
I knew he was gonna be tough. What did surprise
me was how strong his wrestling was, even though he
comes from a wrestling base. I think it made for
a really fun and uh and dynamic fight. And uh,
I want fifty grand.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
You had called for the Cody Garbran fight. You got it.

Speaker 9 (57:24):
So is there someone you want to call out? Is
there a fight that you won next?

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Kick?

Speaker 11 (57:40):
I want Rob Fond by the end of the year.
I want to be in the rankings by the end
of the year, and uh, to basically get into the
new year on a high note.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Dude, he I've heard him in other interviews like he's
talking about a run to a title. I mean, you
know there's some mindset that says if you're not talking
about a run to the title, you shouldn't be fighting.
I get that, But like he's looking at it like
I've put together the best run of my career and
I'm peaking.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
He's listen by hook or by crook, by nickel or
by dime. He fights for every inch. He deserved to
win that contest. It was nice to see he survived again.
Cody did look good the first round. It's tough.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
I mean, you can't sometimes you can't pump you numpty
back together.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Dude, I'm telling you that this is such a These
guys are way more fragile than they realized.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Yeah, let's talk about Hodolfo Blotto, who was a big favorite,
the hulking Brazilian light heavyweight against Paul Craig. I said, Belotto,
I know.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
But I think would it be Belato?

Speaker 2 (58:33):
I don't know Beloto Belotto, Long Island. Luke, do you
have a John anikin proNTs, Dulpho Blotto, Blato, Caserras? I
think so, Luke.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
He he lost to Coachromanov, Yeah, he did.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
I saw that in the dirty boxing. Look, this was
I thought this was Paul Craig shot to keep his job,
but they in the pre fight package, they repackaged him
as a guy with big wins over you know, current
top light heavyweights. I get that he has a win
over both Jamal Hill and the current champion, and Kalaia
bit at him both, but they talked him up like
this was a new chapter he was gonna start, and

(59:06):
to his credit, for a brief second when he hit
that up kick, koh I thought, wow, he just damn
resurrected his career. Turns out, obviously it's an illegal strike
because of where the knees were of Blatta at the time.
But Luke Bolotto falling down arguing with the referee, then
in mid turning his body to argue, passing out eyes,
roll in his head, and then waking up defensively like

(59:28):
he's still fighting off the submission. It looked to me
like he was completely chaoed. Here people are calling him
out aggressively for what they thought maybe was an act.
Let's first hear from Paul Craig on this incident.

Speaker 12 (59:41):
What did you make of the way he went down?

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Right?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Like, let be candid about it. We just watched the replay.

Speaker 12 (59:46):
Yep, he was awake on the way down and then
when he hit the canvas, he was apparently incredibly knocked out.
It's not a reaction I would have expected from a
blow that I thought landed more on the neck than
the chin. Yep, curious your take on that reaction.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (59:59):
You know a few people of mess's made regarding this,
and they're saying that it looked a bit floppish, like
he was maybe hamming it up. Maybe, Like I don't
want to think any fighter is looking for an easy
way out in this spot. We're all fighters, we're all
in the USCU, the pinnacle of our careers, and we're
looking to put on performances. But I can see where
people are looking at and thinking it looks a bit floppy,

(01:00:21):
so like he's maybe taking a dive. I don't want
to think that, but I'll need to watch it back.
It's it's right at the moment, you know what, it's
my fault as much as it is has fault. This
is like we shouldn't be looking at to persecute him
if he's taken taking the knee.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
It wasn't illegal, but that's that's cool of him to
take some responsibility. If it was illegal, it was an
illegal kick.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
It absolutely was illegal. But I have to say, like,
upon looking at the replay, obviously he's can cuss an
ft up from the kick. I was equating it to
being like on the verge of blackout drunk at times,
and like my really twenties where like just jerking yourself
really quickly can throw off your equilibrium and you can
pass out, like it's happened to me during a sobriety

(01:01:07):
check with my parents one time. Really awful story after
a Rusted Root concert. It's got it, you know, sending
home away, It's theater for another day. I can believe
that in which was the words that he said afterwards,
where he was conscious but her was arguing with the referee.
But he said he turned so quickly that basically he
lost vision. He lost vision, he blackdout, he fell backwards.

(01:01:28):
I thought his reaction made it feel like he definitely
was concussed because he thought he was still in the fight,
which is a major sign of that. There's another side
of it, and Anthony Smith, to his credit as an
ESPN analyst, he didn't hold back. He gave his opinion
and this is what he said on air. You see
his eyes come come to the referee, to protest and
then realize maybe I can get a free win. Lays there,

(01:01:48):
pretends he's unconscious, jolts back awake, Allegedly the referee comes over.
This is a man that is awake, pretends to grapple
the referee as if he's unconscious, trying to get a
cheap win. I've been doing this a long time, and
I know what it was like when somebody is faking it.
End quote Luke, I disagree. A respects Smith for that take.
He's a fighter, he's close to the action there. What

(01:02:09):
would he gain. Smith's trying to say he would gain
a DQ win by doing that. It was a no
contest in the end, it could have been a DQ.
Do you think in the end Blotto was trying to
influence the referee to DQ it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I mean, I can. I don't think it's implausible to
suggest it, but I will tell you I didn't ask
for one, but I had a doctor, and I would
verify that they were a doctor reach out to me
and tell me that, and this is their words. It
is one thousand percent possible to look like what Belato
looked like and be actually concussed and have these symptoms

(01:02:43):
and the reactions that he had. And one thing I noticed,
you actually watched the replay, he does the gesturing to
the camera like this. Then the next thing you see
he's flat laying out. But there's a moment that you
miss because the referee walks in front of the screen.
Actually never see how his head hits the canvas. And
the doctor was saying, it was driving this doctor nuts,

(01:03:07):
and I'm not making I swear to I'll show you
the note later. It drove them nuts that people were saying,
this is obviously acting when they don't know what types
of reactions are consistent with neurological trauma. So I don't
think it's in any way implausible that he did it.
But I think people loudly declaring that they know what

(01:03:28):
it is. Maybe maybe you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Yeah, I think look, if he's arguing with the referee,
that also shows me he's concussed because he's trying to
argue like that was illegal or whatever he thinks. He's
arguing there it was an illegal blow. I feel like
he didn't have the understanding to know that it definitely was,
and everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
I guess the point is that these symptoms can set
it doesn't happen all at once. You can be clear
clairvoyant for a second, and then for the next second
you can be completely out of your depth.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
And they were right to stop the fight.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
That was good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Does this of Paul Craig new life? Because it's not
a win, it's also not a loss. It's almost like
people want to give him a moral win some weird way.
I kind of wanted to in the moment before I
sort of realized, oh, yeah, this is completely illegal.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
I don't think it does anything one way or the other. Okay,
they still need names at Light Heavy, and he's got
wins over two former champs, so that's going to keep
him in the major.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
He's not getting back to the ankle Ive rematch for
the title.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Ye a lot of what we've seen Kamaru proved that
he was still doing something special, but everyone else in
his car just kind of proved they were doing what
they were doing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Should I fear that you have reached back to that
doctor over the d MS and asked if you can
get off brand dick pills.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Like on the or may or may not have asked
for my prostate to be examined, But yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
By him, virtually he's just Ski Guid, I just need
you to look at my buck Okay, there we go.
Anything else on this undercard that we should talk about,
that we're a couple of other.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Good scratches, that's a question for Captain bong all.

Speaker 6 (01:04:51):
Over there got to give a shout out to New
York's own Phil Rowe and a sick comeback.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Wow, he did have a nice comeback win, Yes he did.
And was it Losasa? That was dope?

Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
Also, first fight of the night like low Key banger
Man Vanessa Demopolis, Jamie, that was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
A good fight. No, it was not really all right here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
That was so sloppy and you could not be more
wrong argument under under like two thousand and four terms,
Yes it was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
It was a spirit level.

Speaker 6 (01:05:19):
What do you guys think without looking, if you don't
already know, what do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
One fight of the night? Fight of the night.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
It probably should have been uh well, I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Guess it should have been Barcella's Garbrand. I don't know
what actually won it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
It was Usman Buckley, which no, no, no, yeah, I
can make the argument, Jamie lynhrthe Vanessa Demopolis was a
better fight.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
You absolutely cannot.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
You cannot, I mean up away, I wonder if she
gets cut with this lost.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I appreciate that she took this fight on short notice
up away class, but she got it looked like she
was fighting on short notice up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
I mean she got there's no head moment, she just
got lit up.

Speaker 7 (01:05:54):
She was tough.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
I give you credit. I mean give Demopolis credit, dude,
She's tough as old shoe leather.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
But not a great decision loss for Cody Brunda Jet Middlewee.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Also, do you see Ricky Simone held Cameron Smotherman against
the wall and told him you're under arrest, and then
Cameron Smotherman told him you're racist.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
I didn't see that moment. That's very interesting. Wow. Also,
Michael Kaya has to getting the old guy fight win
over Court McGee as they bowed the shit out of
that fight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Was not great. Yeah, not not great. Indeed, I do
like both gentlemen, but I did not care for the contest.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Yeah, I mean, you know that's that's you know, whether
you like them or not. Look, that was not great
right there. Okay, let's keep it going right here, Luke,
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Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
There you go, Luke Thomas Let's transition here to topic
number four. We got a little something in boxing over
the weekend on to Zone from the Theatre at Madison
Square Garden in New York's own unbeaten one hundred and
forty pound title holder Richard Sin Hitchins was making the
first defense of the title he picked up by split
decision over Liam Paro. Welcoming in the well traveled George
Cambosis Junior, the ferocious warrior from down Under, of course,

(01:08:48):
upset Tao Fimo Lopez and was in big fights, made
some big money along the way against Hainy twice Loma
Chenko who stopped him. But here we are Cambosis, this
time on the wrong end of it, a breakthrough victory
by Hitchins, who scores a TKO on Cambosis via body
shot Luke Thomas. This jab from Hitchins was absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Fucking cooking, fucking incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Cooking all night. Did Hitchins in your eyes prove he
can move behind beyond that sort of boring label that
has chased him at times in some uneven performances and
look as good as he did again, uh to maybe
set the table for his epic callout as he did
after the fight against Devin Haney, whether it's Haney another
title holder in Tabo Fimo who was ringside, Did Hitchins

(01:09:34):
show you that he's a monster player at one forty.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
I don't know. And the reason why is because cambosis
is bad enough for me to not be able to
tell Hi, Australia, I do love. They were so fucking
wrong about him. Yeah, yes, so fucking wrong, dude. Hitchines
look great in this fight that jab, as you mentioned,

(01:09:58):
and in the final shot he comes over with the right, cambosis,
tries to duck and get out of the way, and
then he hits him with the left to the liver
or to the body, shot to the bread basket, and
he could simply not recover. He actually stood up, folks.
You didn't see it, but even when he was turned
around and was waiting to go back out there, he
had this pained look on his face, and the ref
was like, I'm gonna wave it against this caliber of opponent,

(01:10:22):
Hitchins looked like the real deal holy Field. But as
we know with enough evidence at this point, this caliber
opponent is not Devin Haney. This caliber of opponent, even
though he's got the win over him, is not Tayo
fi W Lopez. I wonder if in a situation like
that BC, he might retreat and not be as open.
When I say open, I mean is willing to throw

(01:10:44):
as much offense as he did, Because, dude, if you
watch Hitchens in this fight, it was amazing. In the
first few rounds, he's moving a bunch, he's not setting,
you know, a consistent look. He's not letting Kimbosis do anything.
Then a few rounds go by and he's kind of
stationary in front of him right just at the end
of his range, just getting out of the way, and

(01:11:04):
then you know, hitting him with stuff. Yeah, and then
in the last couple of rounds he's fucking hunting. Yeah,
he's pushing Cambosis back.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
He pushed off any talk about boring or whatever like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Okay, but let me let me pitch it back to you.
Clearly we saw the same thing with Hitchins on that night. Sure,
do you believe he can do that against a higher
quality opponent, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Because I'll have to He'll have to do that. I
understand certain uneven performances on the way up when you're
still trying to figure yourself out, you're still learning. That's
why experience matters. That's why you have to put in
those fights incrementally. The fight that I say, even against
Liam Paro, I thought he started too late, and once
he put it on he was able to get that victory,
but there was still that question of can he be
that consistent threat throughout the fight. The way that he

(01:11:44):
built upon in this fight really impressed me. And then
the fact that when it was time to hurt cambosis,
and he had hurt cambosis in round five on a
beautiful shot earlier as well, but when it came time
to put him away, you saw him step up. Look,
he tooks a lot of shit, and I think he's
marketable in that regard. I think most don't know who
he is, but he's starting that name, you know, starting
to hear his voice more. I interviewed him this past
week and he was, you know, very aggressively cocky and confident,

(01:12:08):
but he backed it up this time. So when you
look at the title holders in this division, you got
Alberto Poyo, the PREBC fighter who will be fighting on
that Ring Magazine card coming up in New York. You've
got Tayo Fimo Lopez, Devin Haney, a former title holder
there at one forty. Who's the other, oh Gary Antoine
Russell from PBC. It will be interesting in terms of
what big name he gets because he declared this is Hitchins.

(01:12:29):
He declared after the fight and made sure to say
it that he is a free agent. Eddie Hearn would
come out afterwards who is his promoter and basically be like,
we've built so much together, I really hope you know
we're going to continue working together. Blah blah blah. Even
Turkey Ala Chic came out and said, any all future
Riad season type performances for Hitchens, we'll have to come
with that. He hearn us the promoter. So that's sort

(01:12:51):
of interesting that you're starting to see that camp solidify more.
Even though Eddie Hearn is in in theory a part
of TK, part of Turkey's post plans with TKO. Maybe
he will be in the end. It's sort of interesting.
Who knows either way whether Hitchins signs with somebody else.
I mean, if he went to PBC, there's two title
hold that there's right right now, or he can stay
on he wants Devin Haney, who happens to be on

(01:13:13):
that side of the street. Currently, although I don't know. No,
Devin's the free agent, he's not officially a Eddie Hern fighter.
If you go anywhere he wants, he's definitely a re
odd season fighter. Luke, we can't play the call out
because it's from the de Zone broadcast and they'll definitely
pull us out. Also, he said the end word a lot,
but he has been aggressively calling out Haney and the
guy for a while, So Luke, I am all in

(01:13:35):
on this fight. I don't know if Haney can make
one forty or wants to anymore. Though he fought in
the Catchwait last time out, it seems like his future
is at welterweight, especially if Boots is going to fifty four.
Like kind of looks like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
The direction is the inside rumors are That's what was
reported over the weekend. Yeah, fine, I don't know how
they're gonna move from here. But if Hitchins needed something
to like stamp his arrival, change people's impressions, just get
people excited about what he could do next, this was
This did a lot of say.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
The highlight, he's got the swagger he's when if he
puts it together, and he'll have to again to beat
the hey need to beat a Lopez, He'll have to.
But Lopez was there, He was in the ring after
you know, you know that Turkey with the worst used
to like working with tail Femo, but maybe not anymore.
So who knows a lot it's gonna happen. Lot's gonna

(01:14:23):
happen in the The boxing landscape is still far from
being fully ironed out, and there's a lot of deep
rumors being written about whether it's the him a draw
or other outlets lately. So, uh, something to watch moving forward.
Is it going to be a Turkey against the world, Luke?
What's it gonna be? You know, Turkey and Data takes
on everybody else or not, We don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Usually rich people get their way, so I'm going to
bet on that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
All right. That was topic number four, A rising a
rising stud there in the boxing side. Let's go to
topic number five and we are saying this, Okay, it's
not that he necessarily needed to be there, but UFC
Atlanta was a big fight night card and a big
time city over the weekend, and it was another event
where Dana White was not in attendance. What does this

(01:15:05):
say about his current role? Is it good that the
UFC can run without Dana, or should the UFC appoint
someone else to help promote the brand for all of
the times that Dana isn't there, because, as we've talked about,
a nauseum when Dana is there, Like at three point fifteen,
he left through the back door at three sixteen, he
looked distant and uninterested. Luke Thomas, I was also looking

(01:15:26):
to see on the Dana watch, will he be back
and will we be back in his role? He was not.
I say, just give Hunter Campbell the damn ball, not
like he needs more responsibilities, but make that guy your
voice either way. You got to have a consistent public
voice who can answer the questions and steal that steer
the narratives. I don't think it's this guy anymore, Luke,
what are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Yeah? I'm not even here to make some kind of
angry claim about it. He's got to be there, and
he's got to do that. It's not going to work.
It doesn't mean anything. We are where we are right
b See. We are where we are. Whether you think
it's good that he's gone because you don't like him,
whether you think it's good or bad that he's gone,
because you think someone needs to do that work. It
doesn't matter what we think about what he's doing. BCE,

(01:16:04):
he's got his energy drink, he's got obviously ties to
the president. If we can play the video, Yeah, he
was actually in my neck of the woods over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Is in DC for the big two hundred and fiftieth
anniversary parade of what the military.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Of the army. Okay, the army's birthday was the two
to fifty Army, and he had a prominent seat. I'm
not going to get up here and be like it's
good or I don't. It doesn't matter what we editorialize
around it anymore. Sure, the question you have to ask
as fans is what would you like to see the
UFC do about it? And the answer is nothing. Keep
doing what they're doing because it more or less works,
and that's the end of it. That is one option.

(01:16:37):
Or the other one is do we think that there
is someone within the MMA universe that can occupy something
of a similar role. And let me tell you what
a similar role means showing up at all these events,
having some answers to some of these questions pre fight,
post fight. It also means doing local media. Sure, going
through and talking to news stations and doing morning radio

(01:16:59):
and all all the things that they used to do,
talking to the AJAC editorial board, you name it. Somebody
who can get out there and bulldog, acolyte, whatever proper
description like to give it. Do we think as fans
that the brand needs it? Because tkl's gonna look at
this and say, well, look at the ticket sales and
we're about to sign probably a huge contract. Do we

(01:17:21):
really need to pay someone to go do morning radio
in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
No, they don't pay for like we always talk about
for big media tours to build big fights. These are
areas where they've been able to say, look, it's unnecessary
to our bottom line. We're gonna get there anyway. So
do they need it?

Speaker 14 (01:17:36):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
It all comes down, in my opinion, to whether they
want the brand to be on autopilot and they're okay
with that as long as they're getting their financial returns,
or are they not worried at all about the direction
of the sport, the buzz factor of the brand, and
whether you're gonna build on that. In my opinion, you
do need someone championing for you, somebody that's putting out
the fires or taking the fires and shifting the blame

(01:17:57):
or whatever you're doing. You're playing the company pr role
in a lot of ways. When they put David Shaw
out there, he doesn't have the answers right. They don't
really put anybody else out there outside of John Anak
to host the pressers, and he does his best to
answer the point in questions from the media. If we're
only talking about financial then no, then we should shut
the hell up and let them keep putting on the
cards that they're putting on and charging the prices that

(01:18:17):
they're charging. I just feel like we happen to care
about the brand, the sport, the interest, all of that
more than they do in a lot of ways. And
if Dana is so disinterested or so busy whatever it is, yeah,
maybe it's time. I mean, look, you could argue that
when you sign these deals like the one with ESPN
that was historic and record breaking, a massive and like

(01:18:40):
whatever the version of the new deal that they're about
to sign, which appears as of now, it could be
two or three outlets at once in getting the entire package,
are we just is everything on hold until then? From
Jones aspinall to Dana getting back in front of the mic, like,
I can understand why you wouldn't want to talk about
things on the regular and give updates when they're in negotiation.
And I did think Dana handled that well when asked

(01:19:02):
specifically at three sixteen about the upcoming deal. But don't
you get that feeling like everything that's critical right now
for the UFC is on hold until we find out
where they're going. Will that change the product at all
or that just you know, it's dependent upon the outlets.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
I don't know. The only thing I can say is
the UFC definitely made Dana White it's biggest star. But
the issue with that is when they become this level
of star where they're on the board of, you know,
essentially trillion dollar companies, when they're hobnobbing with the President
of the United States, when they're launching their own independent businesses,

(01:19:40):
the biggest stars in UFC end up transcending and leaving
the sport because they go on to quite literally bigger things.
If that's just where Dana White is, you just have
to ask yourself, does the company, as from a fan experience,
will it benefit from someone bulldogging that front that front role.
There's a lot of people who've been complaining that Dana

(01:20:01):
White was the biggest star in a way and they
didn't like that. And it's like, Okay, well if he's gone,
then what's the problem. And I think the answer would be, well,
it's not like they're putting renewed emphasis on you know,
the fighters per se to kind of leave them to
their own devices to some extent, although there is obviously
some media coordination, but in any case, it's just a

(01:20:21):
question of, like, you built up this gigantic entity which
used to have a gigantic process, and I had a
complicated role. And now that's clearly that era is clearly
going away, not permanently, but not in every way, but
that say goodbye to whatever that was where he was
at everyone doing everything constantly being an acolyte. Now we're
in a space where that's very inconsistent. Sure, what, if anything,

(01:20:44):
is the remedy to this. Let me ask you a
question a Long Island, Luke, do you think Chail son
and could do that role?

Speaker 6 (01:20:51):
To be honest, I like, I know people always say Chail,
people always say DC Hunter, Like I really don't think
it matters who the fuck you put there. It could
be Dave Shaw, just have the answers and everyone will
be happy. I really don't think it matters who you are.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
I think it's important and say, we can say what
we want about cooker. But he had the media like
for the most part, believing in him and kind of
championing his clause in the same way Dana did. There
has to be that element, you have to There's has
to be a like either a likable element or a
must see element to where people want to take your
word and hear what you have to say.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Right, Like if did he declares from jail that he's
going to be an MMA fan? Which promoter is going
to have him at an event first if he gets
a pardon?

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Uh, probably UFC. But I wouldn't put pfl out out
of this topic right now as well. Okay, I'm just yeah,
But I do think that the deal will matter. What
if they sign, for example, a portion of their deal
is Netflix and it's only for four to six super
pay per views per year, and then we're gonna get
four to six super pay per views, you know, like

(01:21:49):
like right, aren't we like extreme Big Fight? If that's
part of it, If that's part of it, that that
will handle that. Part of my problem with them that
we don't see enough like killer matchups at the top
that are gonna pull in the casual. Netflix might demand
that out of them, whereas ESPN was more the demand
was just fill all the dates. Maybe they still have
a portion on ESPN if they have a small contract there,

(01:22:09):
And maybe that's where the mail in fight night cards
at the Apex are. Okay, fine, everybody's getting their fights.
They're staying busy. Who will be the other? Who will
be the third suit? Or is that is that prime?
And is Prime gonna want a certain amount of big names.
I hope the TV deal dictates the quality weekend, That's
what I because it's obvious that it's rating for that
before big things are gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
That's right, there we go. That's right, all right, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
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Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
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just normal stuff. This is a standard black True Classic shirt.
I wore it because I didn't even know we were
doing the read today. I swear this is true. I
didn't even know what we were doing the read today
because I didn't look at it until this morning. And
I put this on no matter what, because it's just
a comfortable tea. Those genes fit so good, dude, they
fit fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
We don't usually have these conversations about, oh, nice shirt, Luke,
how does it fit? But it fits so damn good.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
And again, one thing I want, really want to stress
is it's not just different occasions. You can mix and
match it with so many different things because the look
is simple, clean, high quality, as BC indicated, fits well,
this is what we're looking for, is it not, BC? Yeah,
this is it.

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Agreed to read it. Here's here's my thought on this.
First of all, one more time, I want to remind
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and they told me one of them was so outrageous
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Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Why don't you read that out BC?

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
This shirt says I respect women so much that I
never have sex with them? Is this an indictment upon
marriage in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 8 (01:27:12):
Look?

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Or just young males in general?

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
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Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
It was just it was all I could get past
the censors. This is all I could get past. So
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right yeah, I mean, well, motherfucker, you could be. You
could have a fucking tuxedo one. You're gonna look washed. Now.
It's a large I don't know. And this is from
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Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
They left the price tag on it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
I told it, take it off. Take it off. It's
just a sticker there it is. Yeah, Yes, it looks great.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Yeah, dude, I'm gonna get some great looks on the
subway of going home.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Oh, that is fucking awesome. If anyone wants to send
me a screenshot of that, please do.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Ow that's embarrassing. All right, let's go. Let's go into
our first question from the people from Appy FATA thon
it should be FATA thon. Dude, David Appleton here he
is diffrom France.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Right hiding from fucking you know innerpol h.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
David says, can we organize LT and BC eating some
humble pie with cake lady or dismissing Usmann's prospects so
out of hand? Luke, is this worse than the Devin
Haney's gonna? Is this worse than me saying because he
has no reason avenue of victory against Robert Whitaker.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
It's not that's that's a bad one. This is not
as bad as the Devin Haney one, because Buckley did
fight well. I mean, Haney fought back too, but Buckley
fought so badly and so below standard that I was, like,
I just couldn't believe it. So I you know what
I mean, Like, I'm sorry we said it earlier. Part

(01:28:52):
of the story of that fight is that we were
wrong about Buckley. Like clearly we were wrong about I'm sorry, Osman,
but we were also wrong about Buckley two. We overestimated him.
It's it's not just one or the other. So actually
it's kind of worse. It's like, what are you most
wrong about? I'm not even sure at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
I mean, I was pretty dismissive of Bollall's chances of
winning the welterweight title, as well Juliana Pine's chances of
defeating a man in newness in the first second Pennington fight,
and also her most recent performance. So yeah, I guess
we take l's at times.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
We do, you're gonna take them. I mean, that's definitely
an L. It's just a question.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
I mean I I I discounted Max Holloway for most
of his entire run too, and you just can't prove
me wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Yeah, you also didn't think very highly of until I
had to beat you over time.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
I mean, you know, when somebody introduces you to him
with their peace in their hands, and you're gonna love
this fighter as much as I do.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
You know, dude, you are You are so unfair with that.
I'm not saying I have as many jokes, but you
give his CID level.

Speaker 6 (01:29:50):
You know what it is is I buy into all
the like MK isms and you loving Ilia is obviously
one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
You know, I look deceivingly fitting this shirt. By the way,
I'll lose my sponsors in any Yeah, there we go. Okay,
all right, that's great. Next question from the people at
sticks Plays time. Are you more excited by Elia versus
Charles at IFW or Dricis versus Hamsad at UFC three
eighteen or nineteen? One of the two? What is it eighteen?

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
That would be nineteen, that's Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
This man says, I'm personally intrigued by Elia versus Charles,
especially if Elia wins and goes on to defend the
title multiple times. So, Luke, he's asking, are we more
excited for the IFW man event or the DDP hamsa
I believe when both were announced we did. We both
say DP homsat a little bit better fight.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Yeah, the DP homs out to me is a little
bit more intriguing because there's just seems to me a
little bit more unknown. Now. Of course, Charles could go
and win and upset my expectations, expectation wild war like,
I'm not in any way I want to be clear,
I'm not in any way riding Charles off, but I
do you not agree there's just a little bit more
electricity in that hamzad DDP fight because of the unknowns. Yes,

(01:31:03):
that's what it seems like to me.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Hamza could still be this breakthrough boss at the end
of the video game who comes in and stops this
incredible champions.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
I'm cautiously of the belief Ilia will win, and if
gun to my head, I think Ddp's gonna win, But
I really don't know. In that middleweight fight, I really
don't know. Okay, because of that, I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
If we believe that Islam will now be fighting JDM,
probably not too long after Ilia fights for a vacant
title in his own division. They both moved up kind
of simultaneously. Who will have more title defenses that we're
not guaranteeing that both win the championship, but if they're
both gonna have a good shot at it, Like who

(01:31:48):
will have the more decorated run in that division?

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
I might say Islam because I just don't know how
long Ilia is gonna hang around. I really don't know. Also,
he's got a fuck can beat Charles first. I mean,
do you think it will.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Be dominant at Walter? Wait, like he's dominant at lightweight
or is the gap already?

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
I'll tell you what I think. I think there's probably
a few guys he matches up with well, but over
time that would catch up with him.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
Yeah, but yeah DDP versus Hamsa is a hell of
a fight. There come three nineteen Do we have more
from the people? This is from at Mike ring Chin
nineteen ninety five. How do you think you Mike pronounces
the last name Kurian or it could be Mike h rinchin.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
Urian sin not sure, I'm not sure you think he
has he's Armenian.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
I believe the crepit search history on his left up
or what why?

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
Because he's Armenian.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Yeah, That's that was the correlation I was going for
because that's the only other Armenian and I know that
well to really prove that or shout out to Minouk
Pocian copy in right copy and yes, who are some
fighters you'd like to see change divisions? And who are
some fighters you'd prefer to see stick it out where
they currently are?

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
I could see a couple of heavy's going to heavy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
And I'd like to see heavyweight, even though he's talking
more about middleweight. I'd like to see a athletic, dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
I want to see a guy at heavyweight who's comfortable
being two forty but big an athletics.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Yeah, and I don't I don't know if his punches,
if his kicks and punches we have the same effect
at heavyweight. But I'd like to see him as that
active kind of reckless striker for sure. Imagine him again's
aspinall if he could pull it off moving up to heavyweight.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
And I mean, there's been a lot of guys moving
Max move is moving up. Obviously he's done fifty five before,
but like permanently, Ilia's moving up, Islam's moving up. A
lot of guys are moving up. Vulk we've seen move up.
I'd like to see Pantosium move up and fight morob Ok.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
I'd just like to see Gastolon go back to welter.
Oh sorry on conversation, would you like to see Wailey
go to one twenty five?

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
I'd like to see that for sure. I could even
see Chefchenko going back to thirty five. Non champion. You
would want to see move up? We did, We did.

Speaker 7 (01:33:53):
Yeerie, Sean is like a pertinent topic right now.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
O'Malley, O'Malley, I'd like.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
To see that.

Speaker 6 (01:34:00):
Yeah, I was gonna say, personally, I'd rather Sean stay put,
but I just know that, Yeah, he's got options.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
I like Kle to be allowed to move up to
one forty five for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
That fight, that fight against the man, it should be
at forty five.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
I agree with you on that one. Is there anyone
we we would want to stay? I mean, you wished
Elia stayed longer.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
I get your she stayed longer.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
I don't want him to bastardize his run in the
division by actually pulling a Connor if he wins and
then instantly call it Islam. But then again, you are
playing into a really big fight angle that could be awesome.
Uh do you want Usman to move up to middleweight?
Do you think he's okay?

Speaker 6 (01:34:34):
There?

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
Welterwait still has this? Huh? Yeah? All right, that's all
I got on that topic. Thank you, Mike rinchin A
Man and his cat who is really a man after
my heart? With Parker Porter doing well, Parker Porter won
at BKFC Mohegan over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
All right, at the Mohegan Sun.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
Yeah, he won in the main event. Uh with Parker
Porter doing well with his jump over to BKC BKFC.
Who are some of your favorite fighters who left the
UFC and saw a massive success elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Or a Gucci had some good success.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Bader going to division with Belatour, Right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Yep, I'm trying to think like who you could say?
I mean, it's weird to say this and it was
only true for a time, but you know, Phil Davis
left UFC. He might win this PFL tourney, we'll see,
and he already won the Bellatour title. He got a
little something out of it. Batter obviously is indicated got
something out of it. He got two titles at once.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
Metrice Johnson had a nice run in one. I don't
think it's better than what he.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Did in UFC, but it's not hit a very very
respectable run after the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
UFC and still had a lot of success. So that's
that's rare these days.

Speaker 7 (01:35:34):
But certainly smiling Sam Alvi and karate com, how could.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
We say wise story?

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
I could not. Mike Perry, would.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
You say Francis and Ghanam or you would not. He
made a lot of money with boxing but he I.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
Mean he took el. I mean the goal was to
make money. I mean that was the goal.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
We'll get to him and have you seen this ship.
I did not forget that he was there at a
UFC stage over this past weekend. But I mean sometimes
people have left, done things in and then come back. Yes,
like a Dan Henderson, like that's happened, But I don't
think they've gone to greater glories after leaving. That's sort
of the thing, you know, Bader, Phil Davis. Yes, Mike
Perry that Mike Perry definitely is the go to on this.

(01:36:12):
He's gone up to bigger things, so as Sam Halvey
in a smaller regard that way, But it's usually not
like this.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
I'm trying to think back in the earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Carty has not gone to higher pastures since leaving them.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
I mean, some of those guys who left UFC who
did the Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix definitely did. But then
of course, to your point, they went back to UFC
like Doom, for.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Doom raised his profile being Fader.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
People forget that Antonio Silva almost beat him. Antonio Silva
rocked his ship in that tournament and then or maybe
it was the first round.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
I'm not sure pre washed Bigfoot was dangerous. Man, it's
a big as dude.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
Yeah, he was very dangerous. Yeah yeah, And obviously it
was before UFC, so it doesn't con that's not the way.
But like you know what, Dani Cormier didn't strike Force again,
it was pre UFC, wasn't after. I'm just saying having
a life outside of UFC.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Here, sure, I'm with you on that one. That's That's
about it. What else we got from these people? Chin At?

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
I guess you could say Ronda went on to go WWE. Right,
she was a hit there for a time, was she not?

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
She was a hit for a time. There was actually
a time where she was considered that she's really good,
at least from an entering standpoint, even though I always
felt her promo where her mic work was cringe. I
don't think she went to higher well, she was champion
headlining the WrestleMania in the.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
First all.

Speaker 7 (01:37:20):
Ronda's UFC career or I don't even watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
Did not exceed where the question is is it was
it big enough that it's not a downgrade even though
it wasn't bigger than her.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
If you're a headline. I mean, listen, you know what
I think about professional wrestling. But like, if you're headlining WrestleMania, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
In an all woman.

Speaker 6 (01:37:38):
I mean she was also headlining UFC pay per views,
I'd argue that that's a bigger Dkay.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
How many wrestlers have headlined WrestleMania? I have no idea
how many WrestleMania. How many women's banda weights have headlined
pay per views? It's RNDA and it's Amanda. Uh and
Schevchenko was supposed to but the fight got canceled.

Speaker 6 (01:37:55):
There you go, and it was a fight against Amanda.
So argument still stands.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
Yeah, but you're not making it about women. I'm telling
you about how many fighters have headlined.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
The uf they realized secretly, you hear women.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
There's there's one WrestleMania a year. There's one WrestleMania a year.
She headlined one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
How is that not like there's two nights of WrestleMania.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
Now, Okay, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
You know what I'm trying pointing out in life? All right,
enough of these fans the fan I'm sorry, I love
these people. Thank you for your question.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
They may or may not love women.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
Eric Bolden, we are basically halfway through twenty twenty five,
Eric says, what has been your favorite individual fighter performance
so far? I believe we're talking.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
He took words right out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Say Sean Brady versus Edwards. There's also Yearie versus Jamal
Hill or Paul Hughes versus Usman and Maga Metal the
last one.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
No, it's Sean Brady because he was so comprehensively better. Again,
Kamar Usman could not do what Sean Brady did. La Maham,
you're saying, what's.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
The question the most inspiration?

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
Who had? Who had the best single performance this year
in MMA through? We're now in June, so essentially halfway through.
Not quite What would you say? For me? It's Sean
Brady for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Hence Leon Edwards in the main event in London housed him.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
I mean Jack Della Jack Della is a very good one.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
It was for the title, very good one along elt Loo.
Can you fix this where we miss him? We're missing something.

Speaker 6 (01:39:21):
I'm like racking main events in my head and something
that just came to mind, although I wouldn't really put
it on this masterdin Imovov knocking out Izy like that's
that was a pretty like that's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
A pretty big one. It's a pretty big one for sure.
But again, for me, Brady was so comprehensively good. Did
he did? He had takedowns inside, camping, passing, dual threat,
barely took any punishment. I mean, it's just he just
it was a former champion did that too?

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
Like he fu in that guy's backyard, in his backyard.
That is pretty incredible, right there? Is that the best?
I don't know, like Paul Well Hughes was one of
the feel good stories in the defeat because her I think.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
Here's what I'm going to say. I think Sean Brady's
performance would be good in in any year. But if
we can be honest, this year hasn't produced a ton
of that level of performances, which is why you're racking
your brain and nothing really stands out now that being said.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
What about Morob twice.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
Against Mob? To me, you could say it about usman,
I don't Umar, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
We're talking about a single comprehend like a like A
like A I.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
Would entertain Morob versus O'Malley as as the top answer.
I wouldn't put Umar in that case. No, all right,
he did. Guess he'll be back. But what I'm gonna
say is, look at who's coming back. Jamaiv's coming back,
DDP is coming back, Ilia is coming back, Charles is
coming back. Max Holloway is coming back. Look at that

(01:40:49):
dumb faith. You look like a hairy thumb.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
Have the camera on me.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
That's what I look like when I ship blood.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
All Right, there we go, There we go. I'd been
I think that's it for the fans, right, thank you
to these people. All Right, where's where's uh Daz or
key Papa when you need them?

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
They're not backup on that assay.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
Our final fan segment. It's for the fans as they
watch Luke Thomas react to absolutely ridiculous videos sometimes evolve
in combat sports, usually involving nine to eleven. Hey, this
one's Bez's vz's UFC Hotlanta this weekend, Luke, let's talk

(01:41:32):
about it now. Francis and Gon, who accompanied Kamaro Usman
to the way in up on stage, sat in the
front row in the preferred seats, not in his corner
during the fight. But there's a lot of people that
are saying, not only that he could be done with
his PFL contract in terms.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
Of time, contract could be over two.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
People are saying, I know the UFC, and the UFC
would not have allowed that if things were as contentious
as we sometimes think.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
So my understanding is Randy Catore is not even allowed
in the fucking building UFC fans, which is different than this.
So maybe maybe we'll see it would be good for dude.
Would it not be fucking the.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Best thing TK could do? And isn't that one of
the best things they could do? If John really is
set up to screw them. The UFC has weight has
allowed this to.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
Yes, if John is gonna bail on them last minute,
bringing Francis back is such a good.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Pree, even using Francis for leverage against John to try
to get him to sign.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
But it could be anything could be big on that Altho,
obviously I would rather get Francis. Actually, in the case Francis.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
Comes back, gets paid well, and has a chance to
win the championship, he will have like beat the game,
and we.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
Have he already beat the game. He already beat it.
But this is like like lapping it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
I say this with respect because it's part of the
news cycle. Even though I was much maligned for an
ill timed crack under the guise of tequila. If people
didn't like you or he killed people jokes, are you
gonna face any like?

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
I do not know if there's any legal repercussions. Again,
the reporting on that is so poor. It's just hard
to know what's what.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
All Right, all right, we'll stay at UFC, Luke. I
don't know what Vanessa Demopolis's future is in terms of
fighting with a lot of losses backed up following this
loss to Jamie Lynn Hoorth, but she gave a the
performance that people talked about at the way ends.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Luke, not going to be mad at it?

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
Okay, it's like Van dam and Bloodsport. How many times
he did a full split in the I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
Mad at it?

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
Okay, Okay, that's interesting. Staying here, Luke. This is from
a week earlier, but it's still related to the UFC.
Remember that time we went to Atlantic City. You'll never
forget going there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
Anytime we stayed at the boor got up.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
Yeah, anytime you go to Atlantic City after like nineteen
ninety what like six.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
It's just like, yeah, it's a shithole.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
DC has problems with it.

Speaker 15 (01:43:54):
You want mine yeah, Atlantic City. No, come on, man,
Atlantic City. You go to Atlantic City to summer time.
You go to Atlantic City and it looks like death.
It sounds like it to me. It feels like if
I go to Atlantic City, don't stop believing it's playing
constantly because it feels like you're in the eighties.

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
Because it was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
It was like it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
Reno, Nevada.

Speaker 15 (01:44:17):
It was like once a cool place, and now it's
just this ship ass place where old people go and
they're walking along thing. You got so much short dresses,
asses out everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 15 (01:44:28):
It's like going out to I'm talking about old asses,
not like good asses. I'm talking like that. Atlantic City
is the pit. Atlantic City is bell and Brazil.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
No, this is not true. I'm telling you.

Speaker 15 (01:44:42):
I know you would take a visit of this because
you're from Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
But Atlanta it's a little rough. It's the summertime. It's
not bad. Your boardwalk, you got the ride.

Speaker 15 (01:44:50):
The boardwalk looks like it's gonna fall on top of it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
States.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Our state tournament, Our state tournament is Atlantic City.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
Oh my god, did you guys have a terrible state?

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Are you kidding me? Luke I did go there in
the in the peak in the eighties a couple of
times with a with a friend of mine whose family
would go down there for work and would gamble and
stuff and at the prime at them, I'd stay in
Trump Plaza in nineteen eighty eight, you know, like around
the time WrestleMania is there a Atlang City. So this
is actually one of my something special this is it's
not it's it's for to say, it's not even like

(01:45:19):
sixty percent of what it's like twenty percent right now
of what it used.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
This is one of my issues with the movie Warrior
because it takes place in Atlantic City and they kind
of treat it like it's nice, and I'm like, the
way to make that movie authentic is to treat it
like it used to be nice.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
Ran Callen on play by play in that movie, and
he didn't do a bad job.

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
Sam Sheridan, also the author, was doing some of that
as well. John Annick was doing something and you were.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
On the Mister favor Weed thriller and people forget that too.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
I had a bit of a hire body low and Windy. Here.

Speaker 7 (01:45:49):
Where can we watch that? Luke?

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
I want to watch that? I think you can watch
it on fandango at home.

Speaker 4 (01:45:54):
It's actually watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
No, you can't. It's actually a decent movie. It's way
more violent than you'd expect, gnarly violent, and it's uh touchy.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
Feeling is not bad in it, but you feel it
is not bad. I did see How to Train Your
Dragon over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:46:10):
Wow, was that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
I was high as fuck? Did most of the heavy
lifting on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Of course, thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
I wasn't high as you know.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
You'll agree. There's this age old debate in soccer, right,
who's better Ronaldi or Messi?

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
Right, everybody's got Ronaldi or Messi? Famous Tom Ronaldo, the
famous Italian.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
When people say, has has Christiano Ronaldo trump the original
Ronaldo in terms of just saying the word rinaldo.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
With this generation? Certainly yes.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
So the only reference to this generation has to the
Brazilian Ronaldo is the time that he like purchased prostitutes
potentially in.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
The So there's the there's the old school Brazilian Ronaldo
number nine he was. Then there's the other Brazilian Ronald Deino,
and they played for different and now there's Portuguese Ronaldo.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Okay, do you have a you're a messy guy in
this debate.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
Probably Ronaldo guy over CR seven. Yeah wow, all right,
let's see what the R seven had. Okay, Messi had
more magic on the ball, I can't deny, but he
was not in any way an aerial threat with like
a header on set pieces and the kind of way
that Ronaldo was. Ronaldo's a little bit more of a
better athlet.

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
Well, this next gentleman, uh definitely had an answer. Who
of somebody who was magic with the ball, but it
was not of the two names he was asked. Oh wrong, quip. Sorry,
let's run this one. Sorry, that was my bad, wrong setup.
Let's first run the dirty boxing wig ins over the weekend. Okay,
speaking of ball cleaning hair Luke, Okay, there's there's a

(01:47:45):
co owner John Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
I could hold you down and fuck you. All right, Well,
that's definitely somebody who's do.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
You think they rode away on a scooter from the
way in caressing some curly guy's hair.

Speaker 1 (01:47:57):
That's a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
That was a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
We'll just say that out, and that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
We'll edit that out after all. Right, Uh, this is going.

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
Guys are literally threatening to rape each other.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
That Yeah, that's MMA in twenty twenty five. That's where
we are. Okay, let's go to the soccer debate, please,
Ronaldo O Leonel MESSI a mere gliff time together.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
But that was where I think when I'm that age
and I'm living, I'm assuming that was Portugal based on
the way they sounded. Uh, and I've you know, fled
the country obviously. Obviously I hope someone does that for me.
Salute to that man.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
All right, Uh, Luke, you we know when you walk
through first class, it's crop dust. What about if you walk.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
Through a movie. I don't know about rest of you, guys.
I enjoy farting on others when you walk.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Through a movie theater, even if there's children and like
they have to lean back. So it depends on.

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
Where I'm seated and how I'm navigating. You would crop
dust children without hesitation.

Speaker 16 (01:48:58):
So with this, Gentlemans, did that kid just suck a
fucking fart?

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Yes? He did. There we go, There we go. Hey,
that's a good transition. It's time, ray, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:49:22):
This segment is so fucking dumb, but it's the best
thing that we do.

Speaker 2 (01:49:25):
Rate that tattome one to ten, Luke ten being a
fantastic tattoo.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
This is a three D tat Yeah, I don't care
for it, but it changes the picture. This is not
what I mean. Listen, is it a bad tattoo. It's
not a bad tattoo, but.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
One to ten. Luke, you go, you're only going like
seven five five? Really look at that?

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
Yeah, I don't like. This is not the kind of
this kind of tattooing does not appeal to me. Okay, okay,
it's not a bad tattoo, not a bad tattoo, but
does not appeal.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
You, like when people get a full backsplash shouting out
to the city that they love, kind of like if
you did a DC flag on the back with buildings.
Not especially all right, this guy's doing Dallas more than DeBie.
Watch this, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
I mean with the Dallas. Dallas sucks. I don't know
if anyone knows that, but it blows.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
So this is not a ten out of ten tattoo.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
No, that would not be. I mean again, it's a
lot of work, and it looks like the artist knows
what they're doing. They're using negative space here real well,
but not for me.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
All right, the next tattoo I need you to rate
all I wrote down here was fuck your couch.

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
Yeah, what do you say?

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
Fuck y'all?

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
Couch ouch? J on? Whose couch?

Speaker 15 (01:50:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
Now we looked at that tattoo. Now look at that eye.

Speaker 11 (01:50:36):
Motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
What happens? That's a four tattoo? Come on, all right,
that's a three.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
However, her zing nine.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
This tattoo of a tunnel can get us above seven
on the one to ten scale.

Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
Luke, is that a vagina? Oh god, holy fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
I think this tattoo is called stairway to stairway to
Arby's stairway to Hope. So okay, all right, okay, all right,
let's keep it going here. It's time to feel my guitar. Luke, Hey, Leaf,
I just got this new guitar. Come feel the snack
sh oh yeah, what the fuck? Dude, don't make it weird, man,

(01:51:18):
I just want to feel my guitar. Do it again. Okay, dude,
what bro Kenny?

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
Are you seeing this ship?

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
Alright, it's tough for MMA fighters in the watch pornography.

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
You watch like pantomimed pornography.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
I did with that beat, with that dirty boxing way
and pretty much yea, I will rape you with what
the mm a Fighters in the wild. Morob coming home
to Georgia to a parade, And I'm not talking about
the at L.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
They're doing. They're doing Morob's bit jumping off of ship. Crazy.
You know, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
The Georgians love this fella and he revels in it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
They gotta say, can't say he didn't earn it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
No he did.

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
I can't say he didn't earn it. Man, They're on
horseback for this fucking guy.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
Double decker, boss, This is great. This reminds me of
you and Joseph a Bank.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
No, that was an upper decker.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Sorry, upper decker, wrong joke, wrong time. All right, let's
keep the fighters in the wild. How about some iron
sharpening iron in this gym as song You Dong and
Big Bang Jiang.

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
Dude, they look like completely different species. I mean, it's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
How big Chinese power Alabama power?

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
Yeah, dude, dude, Big Bang Zang is so big. But this,
I'm telling you you guys today don't get it. MMA
and boxing crossovers used to never happen, and now they
happen all the freaking time, and they're still cool to me.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
This MMA boxing crossover at BKFC Ice Wars over the weekend,
and you believe that iceman Chuck Mindenhall with the hip
man Tommy hearns.

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
I like his other nickname better MotorCity co. But look
at fuck look at that. But I can't tell who
looks older.

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
Yeah, I can't tell who's more punch drunk. But I
love both of those people. That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
Uh. You know, yesterday was the anniversary of his knockout
of Duran Brutal brutal there. I was thinking about this,
how many knockouts from the eighties or nineties are so
violent that they hold up under today's standards. That one
is one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
That is an insane knockout, just a perfect shot, full extension.

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
Nego's face first, completely frozen, vicious shots.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
Connor McGregor. He may be a promoter of these days, Luke,
but he's still all man at heart. Here's him BKFC.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
Okay, I mean he wouldn't be the first or the
last guy.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
Okay, hey, let them eat cake Luke, the weird cake
lady from France's back. Okay, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
To why don't you just cut up your furniture and
eat it?

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
You absolutely well, it's Luke. That is great.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
Dude, I mean, just can you just keep eating things?
Unbelievably sick person?

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
Yeah, just eat it? Why don't you keep eating cake?

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
This is gonna make people like weird and crazy if
they start fighting.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
Of course, why would there actually be things? Just just
live in a world.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
Of Imagine if everything you touched turned into cake. That's
what this lady's existence is like.

Speaker 1 (01:54:12):
Yeah, maybe like okay, what are we gonna just cut
the tea? Yeah, of course we're gonna cut Why would.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
We Well, not everybody can take a joke. Some people
may watch this and apply.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
It to their lives.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
You gotta be careful watch this. See he's watching the
same video as we are. He's like, this is weird.

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
Well, you have shown me videos today about two men
threatening to rape each other and someone eating their own feces.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
Well, Luke, we got another one for misogyny. The next one.
You ever hear a woman talk for too long and
you're like, where's the fire extinguisher? Luke, Yo, twenty dollars
right now if you can zip in that jacket, that's right.
That was the single of the week. Trunk set up,
but it worked too?

Speaker 3 (01:55:34):
Was that?

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
What's his name bingbong, what's what's the fucking guy? We
have nems gorilla?

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
Do we have number ten?

Speaker 12 (01:55:39):
Long on?

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:55:41):
But you got another one before ten after this improv
comedy nine.

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
B uh yeah, but we already played that.

Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
No we didn't.

Speaker 7 (01:55:50):
I'll play it right now.

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
Oh I read the wrong one. Sorry about that? Go ahead,
go ahead, you beat me?

Speaker 7 (01:55:56):
Was that the first thing you give a fuck about
when you get an office?

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
Like, let's change?

Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
What the damn?

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
How many standers? That's a long standards? What is going on?

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
They show it one more time? So I want to
see that because the other person comes running out dingle time.
Watch someone stands up and then the person comes running.
He stands up. Boom, there it is. Okay, you're killed now.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
Sorry I was out of order there, Long Island Luke
in both putting these videos to light and reading them
out of order.

Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
All right, let's have to watch anyone like terrorist is
isis videos beheaded.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
But here's if you know the ladies and other cultures
speak up too much. This is what they do.

Speaker 14 (01:56:51):
Look apparently, Okay, I gotta tell you it's kind of
my dream though.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
Shot the fuck out, Yeah, shot the fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
Out, Yellow the preck yeah, prack. Okay, sir, that is uh,
he didn't start the fire. Okay, Well we heard.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
The zinger of the week. Now it's time for the
joke of the week.

Speaker 1 (01:57:21):
What does sun the relati say when she got to
the ball?

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
She's well, look, they say don't drink and drive. Now
they say don't drink and scoop.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
We're gonna get fired. This guy is drinking and one
head on the scooter be worried about that. DC are
fucking dangerous. Oh, here we go, Here we go, Here
we go. Who brought that dick?

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
All right, Todd for some faceball? Watch this sideline reporter.
That's the she got out, was we are and now
we're gonna go to.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
The double faceball. Oh dude, well done. Holy shit, that's
Jason Bourne.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
All right, Luke, You ever been puking on the side
of the road after a long night and people won't
like leave you alone?

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
Yes, that actually happened to me.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
Oh you gotta chew, you gotta chew.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
What's the mask?

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
Whoa, whoa, he's throwing up.

Speaker 4 (01:58:32):
He's throwing up.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
Still probably the best part of his day.

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
I had one time I was at a party and
I slept at the house overnight, like on the floor,
like a bunch of people did. And then I woke
up the next morning so fucking hungover that I drove
like a mile past where we were, and then I
had to pull over on the highway and vomit, and
it was all like red from like I guess what
I've been drinking the night before, And every time someone
went by, they would fucking honk at me.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
Your insides are out there just because I.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
Was just raying vomit all over the side of the
high Okay, Luke, you.

Speaker 2 (01:59:02):
Know I you know when you go to the Disney
World and they have hidden Mickey's, it's like the game
within the game, you look at like the Wallpiper and
you'll find like the hidden Mickey Mouse. I did not
know that a lot of dicks in the wild too.
You got to be on the lookout for, Luke. Look
at that shaft.

Speaker 1 (01:59:16):
Right that is that has a lot of penis now undercarriage.

Speaker 12 (01:59:19):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
All right, Hey, you know I got that dog in me, Luke.
This is our bumper sticker of the week.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
Caution, this vehicle makes frequent stops for gas station hot dogs.
All right, that's nice, all right, Luke.

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
Hot dogs were a big part of my cuisine growing up,
but they've never been served to me like this. Oh awesome,
thank you, I ordered hot dogs. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
Hey, here's the question, would you eat it?

Speaker 2 (01:59:45):
You don't possibly expect me to eat.

Speaker 1 (01:59:50):
That? Well? I mean, thanks before I ate the cake
Ladies TV.

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
Finally you know that one.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
I'm just saying, hear me out, there's a there's a
case where depending who works at that restaurant, I may
or may not eat it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
I'm just saying, finally, Luke, you know that woke trend
that barbers have to ask for permission? That's not hit
the UK too. So before we saw the trims today,
is it okay? I'm gonna have to touch it?

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Sign crack. That's all the ship I can handle this week, Luke, Okay,
you know you gotta go out with a bang on
your final episode, right.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
I can't believe that the North Korean censors let this
on but not my other T shirt? How bad was
my other T shirt be worse.

Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
Than the videos we just saw.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
I don't know if they were that bad. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
Actually, to be fair, I only saw one of the
rejected T shirts and it was. It was bad. I
didn't see the other one long.

Speaker 1 (02:00:42):
I don't look. Is the T shirt really worse than
those videos? Yes?

Speaker 6 (02:00:45):
And also BC, the rejected T shirt was the worse
than the other two.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
So yeah, it wasn't that. The one at the the
one at the factory.

Speaker 2 (02:00:55):
No surprise.

Speaker 6 (02:00:56):
The factory one was pretty bad, but it wasn't as
bad as this. And then there was a nine to
eleven one, which was important.

Speaker 1 (02:01:01):
I didn't I didn't do I didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (02:01:03):
That's not good. That's all the show that we're allowed
to give you this week or today.

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
If this was the last one, just know that we
might be back.

Speaker 2 (02:01:11):
Friday, eleven am Eastern a remote episode this weekend. We
do have what a UFCO.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
Assuming that war doesn't spread, they're gonna go right next
to Iran, which.

Speaker 2 (02:01:22):
I don't think it's that crowded in the box, right.

Speaker 15 (02:01:25):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:01:26):
The still a couple of weeks out from Jake Paul
and a couple other things.

Speaker 1 (02:01:29):
But is Jake Paul the same day as UFC three seventeen. Wow,
they're gonna go head to head with that? They are.
That's gonna be kind of fun, depending upon what I
look forward to not watching the Jake Paul fight.

Speaker 2 (02:01:42):
Okay, there you go, there you go. Yeah, so that's
where we're at. We're a show and we like it
to do this show that don't like you to like
his own pay per view and we would like I
want you to want my merch at Morningcombat Dot Shop. Okay, uh,
new releases every month, Long Island, LT and BC. We're
the ones that profit from this fantastic artwork on there

(02:02:04):
from average Joe art you know his game. What a
what a system we've developed here the best way that
you could help the show Morning Combat that shop and
also look good this summer. Okay, and T shirts like this,
But we don't sell this for good reason.

Speaker 1 (02:02:19):
Yeah, that's got nothing to do with our store or
anybody else's related to the show. This is just I
got this off of like some rando company, just for
the just for the lulls. Yeah, are you gonna wear
that on the Subway?

Speaker 2 (02:02:31):
No, you can't make me. I had to wear it
on this show. That's the that's the shame.

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
That's my gift to you because I lost out on
that's my gift to you. You should wear that. You
should wear that home if you love me. You'll do it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
Would you say that this could be an EFFRODISI I
can disguise.

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
No, Okay, that's that's what I think. It actually probably
is going to be insanely repellent, but that's sort of
the point.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
Maybe you can hook me up with your doctor to
get some I don't need those pills. Just for the record, okay,
but you know bits we know you do. You're new
doctor friend. I'm forty six, soon to be forty seven,
and I enjoy doing the show. Thank you for watching.
Luke Thomas. You have a birthday coming up this summer
as well. You're gonna be.

Speaker 1 (02:03:09):
Four to six.

Speaker 2 (02:03:10):
Yeah, our birthdays are like a week apart.

Speaker 1 (02:03:12):
Oldest ship.

Speaker 2 (02:03:13):
Yeah, that's what it is. All right, That's that's all
we can handle here for Ken Ken's back. Shout out
to Ken?

Speaker 1 (02:03:22):
Is he sober?

Speaker 2 (02:03:23):
Would you bail him out for an obscene charge and
agree to not tell anybody if he paid you enough,
just because you want to give him a fighting chance
back in society.

Speaker 1 (02:03:34):
Like it's possible. I'd consider it. I would accept his.

Speaker 2 (02:03:38):
Call from prison along Island. Look, you got some news.

Speaker 1 (02:03:40):
Gotten a call from prison or never?

Speaker 2 (02:03:42):
Never?

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
Yeah, it's happened. To me a couple of times I
had a friend. Yeah, I definitely.

Speaker 2 (02:03:46):
See it of the main card minute. We can expect
content from you this week.

Speaker 6 (02:03:49):
Man, Yeah, I'll be doing what bet breakdown, stay tomorrow,
Full Card.

Speaker 7 (02:03:52):
Watch Along Saturday, Early Card Saturday eleven.

Speaker 1 (02:03:55):
Looking forward to it. I thought it was twelve prelims.

Speaker 7 (02:03:57):
It might be twelve anyway, really Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:04:00):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not that's got that. I don't know
if it's the exact same times on as Abu Dhabi
and all that stuff, but it's roughly similar to that geographically.

Speaker 2 (02:04:08):
So maybe I'll just stand up and show off the
shirt while you take us out of here.

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
All right? Do that? There we go, there's Brian Campbell
walking on ego. There it is all right for the
North Korean censors who got rid of the other T
shirt for Long Island Luke and all the other donks
in the back, that's b c IMLT. This has been
MK until next time, May all your gains be loyal.
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