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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Revel reveale.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Look at us now, timpted.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Jesus, Oh you.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Using will be up to It's time back. Oh yeah,
it's Monday morning, fired up about combat sports, ready to
invade your face hole. Its morning Combat Monday, March twenty fourth,
twenty twenty five. You have C London is behind us.

(00:49):
Let's get fired up. Brian Campbell, that BBC with that
BDE back from Las Vegas. Back here in the NYC.
That's Luke Thomas. We are in the Meadow Larks Studios
in Man and Luke we started a couple of minutes
late because the subway system did you wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well, Jesus, it just doesn't stop where it's supposed to stop. Yes,
or the next stop?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Now, next stop for that twenty nineteen Luke, say about
BC if that happened, you mean.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
If you had a legitimate reason for public Yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
God of the drinking show. And when you gave me.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Hell didn't you drive there?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I drove to the train station and then the Metro
North you know, put me on many delays.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I wouldn't forgive you because I'm coming from much further away.
You go, We settled that.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Hey, welcome into a fantastic show. When you got bclt
in a fresh weekend, you got a time fights to
break down. You might have that aids No, uh was big?
How about rod tang over the weekend?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Luke's drinking some I mean they're literally calling it cola.
Hold on, that's the name, and it tastes like cola.
It tastes like butt, like someone just dip the ass.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Here we go fun weekend. By the way, well we'll
be hitting a lot of that stuff. And uh okay,
here we are.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
We're here up at this morning.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
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If you listen audio only while you run your errands.
Please tell a friend. Let's let this show spread like
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Speaker 1 (02:27):
The grossest soda birch beer?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
No, yeah, it's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I feel like doctor Perky. Is you know that number,
Doctor Pepper?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm fine with the like Mountain Thunder. My family used
to get down.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
With Mountain Thunder all right, favorite had the Fago, the
the insane clown posse.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't drink it, but raf Bartholomew in Greater Detroit
drinks that on the regular.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well he's white trash.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I mean we love that is by the way, rape
grow up a block from the studio, really, yes, a block.
We've got a third member of our broadcast. You may
have seen him over the weekend getting high on the
Main Card Minute podcast. He's the son of an Australian
ball bag. It's Luke Nocina. Yes, yes, what's up, guys?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
How we doing?

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Do you eat ship on your bets?

Speaker 4 (03:11):
No?

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Kevin Holland Cash Marching, Tie Burrough Cash, Nathaniel Wood Cash,
Jan Blohovich. I mean, personally, I do think Olberg won
that fight, but that was a close fight.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Was close?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Hey, hey, Terrell goeshe should a cash? What the hell's hey?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Man plus four fifties definitely should have won that.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Ye wow, all right, So there's Long Island. Luke. Thank
you for playing.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Luke.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Do you have any message for the people? Recent medical diagnoses?
No update on your future at all this this weekend?
Can we talk about that?

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Not yet? Not yet?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
All right? All right, Well you're gonna have to wait
and see what's going on here in the life of
Luke the Yeah. Soon soon we'll be on that we
will be hitting you with dms from donks And have
you seen this ish to close today's broadcast.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I have. I have a funny story. So I took
two key black riding through the neighborhood the other day
or yesterday's matter of fact, and.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
You walking while she's riding with training wheels.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I'm riding in the streets. She's riding on the sidewalk
with training wheels, with training wheels, and then we get
on the bike path and then we're pretty much fine.
After thereafter, and we stopped along the way to get
a smoothie. Okay, we said, she got a great.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Dad moment r right.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I was amazing.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
It was like my dad bringing me to seven eleven
on the motorcycle and we get hot dogs and slurpees. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, So so she loves this this smoothie place. So
we stopped and she gets as smoothie and I get
a smooth and they're about this tall. It's still at
the bottom, but they're about this tall, and I sit
them down. I go, this is the one you ordered,
this one is mine. She goes to grab the one
that she orders and spills it and it spills all
of the smoothie immediately all over the table and.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Say your challenge. Do I flip out like I want to?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I didn't flip out. I didn't flip out, but I
was like, they ever go, we gotta be careful, okay, yes,
And then when I sat down, she goes, can I
have a taste of yours? I said, yeah, please tell me.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
She spilled it.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
She spilled it all over the fucking table. And there's
there's people being like looking around like trying to get
when I say it's spilled. I mean it was like
tidal wave of just fucking smoothie everywhere. Great moment. I
had to go by two smoothies and I drank neither
of them. There it is.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
That's parenting. That's parenting.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
One. Oh, we had a good time on the bikes though.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's what That's what Sean Kemp and Antonio Kmarti go
through with their fourteen kids. I mean, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
A lot of smoothies.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Just getting the smoothie as going on right there by
the way. Since I was traveling this weekend and this
will they'll we'll get into the London bullshit. I watched that,
Uh Kings of Tupelo documentary on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I've not seen this, my god.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I was told it makes Tiger King look normal. They
were right.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Central premise is.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
The backwards Tupelo local government, a plot to send essentially
anthrax to Obama, and it all being blamed on an
Elvis impersonator. This you know, you guys got it. You
just got to watch it, all right.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
America is a weird place. This is a weird place.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
So is the American South such a weird places. Heay,
enough of that behind us. I wanted to remind you
that this episode of Morning Combat is brought to you
by DraftKings, and as always DraftKings right, the crown is yours.
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now we will begin.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Let me let me do one thing. We'll use this
to see her saying, well, and Luke, did you hate
UFC London? Because I want to raise my hand here
and say I didn't hate it, and in fact, I
don't quite necessarily get the pushback that the event got.
I mean I get some of it.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well. I think it's related to overpriced tickets and not
putting your best British stars out.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
There fine, no problem, But in general, as an event
to watch, I found myself not necessarily in tune with
some of the criticism. What did you make of it?

Speaker 5 (06:35):
I agree people were saying that during my watch along,
they were like, this card sucks, and I was like,
maybe it's just because I'm live right now enjoying watching
the fight. I thought it was a great card.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Not great maybe, but but THC pairs well with BED.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I was sober, so there. I mean, but I didn't
hate it. I really didn't.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I rewatched most of it. I did not hate it,
but I do understand the direction that the sport, the
quality levels going, the ticket all that matters.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Cicer prices were insane and all the British well not all,
but most of the British docks got worked.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
A lot of empty seats. There were people leaving early.
It was kind of weird. You don't see that normally.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Well, blame Leon Edwards for that, but well.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
We're about to do that. Hey, let's get into topic
number one from the weekend that was UFC London was
a loaded on paper, a plus fight night card, if
you will, and it was really built upon the shoulders
of that beautiful welterweight main event for title positioning as
former champion Leon Edwards, in his first bout since dropping
the belt to Balah Muhammad last year, welcomed a rebirth, aggressive,

(07:29):
tattooed and absolutely jacked up in hungry Philadelphia's own Sean Brady,
and what we saw at the end was domination as
the former champ, Edwards tapped out via fourth round submission.
So Luke, not only did Brady win the first three
rounds on all three scorecards, not only did he stuff
that desperation takedown attempt from Leon in round three that

(07:50):
I'm sure we'll talk about. He goes on to a dominant,
one sided victory. But we got to ask this question here,
what percentage of this was due to Brady evolving into
an elite, legitimate title contender, and how much of this
result was Edward's self imposed continued free fall in the
minds of most MMA fans, where everyone's talking more about

(08:11):
it seems what Edwards didn't do and then maybe what
Brady did. How do you juggle that comparison and the
percentages there?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
If we assume that the two main contributors to the
result are just that some degree of Brady really crystallizing
his game and some degree of Edwards simply not doing that.
We have to assign like a pie chart proportion. Sure,
I'm gonna say it's around seventy thirty in favor of Brady.
That's what I'm gonna say, like pie charts. By the way,

(08:39):
hair pie hair Pi. Yeah, so I think I'm gonna
give up at out seventy percent. That's debatable. That's just
an estimate, but I think that understand something. I went
back and to reach wild watch this fight like I'm
sure many people did, or at least have some impressions
about it, and I went back and I'll have a
breakdown later on my substack. But dude, Sean Brady is
can we just say this, Sean Brady, he had a

(09:01):
unequivocal breakout performance home run on SAT. Home run, maybe
not a Grand Slam, but a clear home run. He
has gotten so much better. Where I give credit to Leon,
some of the was some of the best things that
he did. Really, the only good thing that he did
I thought was counter striking as the blitzing was happening

(09:23):
from Sean Brady, but sure of that, he didn't really
do anything. However, what I would say is on the ground.
Obviously we already know what the story is on the feat.
Sean Brady looked pretty good there too, landing good crosses
and swivel jabs through combination. But if we're again assigning
proportion of what explains the result, there is simply no
denying Sean Brady's ground game. And I'm gonna say this

(09:43):
his top half game. It's either the best in MMA
or certainly at a bare minimum, on the short list
for some of the best in MMA. You could put
Islam Makacheff potentially number one in that role, because certainly
he's doing unbelievable stuff. But this fight, to me such
a clear demonstration BC of how thorough and complete not

(10:07):
just his grappling game is, but the center of it,
the nucleus. Yes, that top half, and he could play
top half, top reverse half, you can call it reverse kesekatomy.
He's a bunch of different names or similar set of positions.
He is absolutely dominant and once he begins to pull
you into that rinse cycle, buddy, you're getting rinsed. Make

(10:29):
no mistake about it. It's one of the I honestly
think it's, if not the best top half game in MMA,
it is certainly on the short list and BC, you
saw that come to life, dude, and I want to
say this. Everyone's like, oh, he's big and he's strong.
Yes he is. And for Leon we'll talk about Leon
in a second BC. For Leon to say he was
gonna have a strength advantage now just looks so fucking

(10:52):
comically out of touch you can barely even know what
to say about it. But the reality to me, beyond
Leon over estimate himself, is that people are wrong when
they say Sean Brady is well, he's just big gorilla.
Yeah he is. He is highly technical, highly technical when
you watch these sequences BC, where underneath Leon's going for

(11:16):
half guard and he's trying to avoid mount and then
he's trying to scramble and Sean is there every step
of the way, either to ride it or to stop it.
Total mastery. Doesn't make any positional mistakes, not one, not
one positional mistake through four or three plus rounds of
the whole thing. Yeah, did Leon Edwards fuck up real

(11:39):
badly in this fight and potentially I think this stage
of his career, Yeah, I think he did, And we'll
talk about it. But that was an unenviable task to
go up against this version of Sean Brady, a gorilla
with high grappling IQ. That's a tough bastard.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean to make this was a full blue moment,
because what did I say, coming in where I was
leaning leon, I said, if this becomes a fight with
striking on the feed, I'm gonna have to see a
growth from Sean. That first round was close, but I
scored it for Sean, not just because of that trip
takedown at the end, but I think he did level
up his striking. I loved how tight his combinations were.
He came off off the opening bell throwing overhand rights,
and there was poise, there was movement to him. It

(12:17):
wasn't the same guy obviously that got picked apart strike
after strike by ballal leading to the stoppage loss. And
who has he been since then? Determined? Motivated, explosives, so
many adjectives, but the motivation part matters too. Did you
see him after the win going right up to the cage,
thanking Dana and Hunter for giving him this opportunity. He
left his newborn daughter behind, flew out on short notice,

(12:38):
and look at the condition he came in, Look at
the dominance. This fight changed in round two when three
seconds in he took Edwards down and never let him
back up. The body language on Leon. Edwards, walking back
to the corner after round two said it all that
was the beginning of the end for him. So I
know that we're going to kind of dunk on Leon
and boys MMA Twitter dunking on Leon. Oh my god,

(13:00):
you can argue if it's rightfully, so we're gonna do
all that. But dude, Sean Brady put him in that
spot in round two and seemed to just pull out
of him the will, the stamina, the everything. Leon was
a completely different fighter after that. If you get if
you're on your back for four minutes and fifty seven seconds,
that can certainly change a fight. To your point about
top position, Sean Brady was dominant. He looked like a

(13:21):
title contender on this afternoon.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Dude, he washed the former champion washed him. I mean
that fight was close in the first round. Fine, it
was close when you could score whatever way you want,
it was close, and then not at all for any
point thereafter. From thereafter, it was one way traffic. It
was a steam rolling I just feel like, you know,
Sean Brady got a little bit, a little bit, he

(13:45):
got a lot criticized after the loss to balal Mohammed,
in part because what we now realize, people were sleeping
on balal Mohammed, right, we didn't realize how good his
hands had gotten. Again, I'm not comparing him to Canelo,
but I'm saying certainly, certainly massively improved. And obviously what
we saw in the grappling and the wrestling department, he
was shutting down Sean Brady. There after, we were like, oh,

(14:05):
Sean Brady kind of fell apart on the big stage.
There was a lot of that going around, and it
turns out, well, listen, he didn't have his best night
that night.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Of course, he picked up the pieces. Dude, he picked him.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Boy, he picked them up. And then some Dean Thomas
and all the guys and that team have really ri
has really turned a corner. And dude, you know, there's
there's actually an interesting question in my mind, can this
Like after this fight, people were like, how would Sean
Brady's ground game match up with Shafcutt and then shot
cut and Ballal and then what about a rematch with

(14:34):
Sean And I don't know the answers to any of
those questions, because I don't know how he matches up
exactly with Ballall at this point. Obviously we saw the
first fight, but you will see what goes going forward.
It would be competitive, and we'll get to that topic too,
fair enough, But if you're not on that level, oh buddy,
you're gonna get found the fuck out against a guy
like this. And Leon Edwards got absolutely, at least metaphorically speaking,

(14:57):
undressed by the.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Look as we shift the converse stations slowly from Sean
to Leon. I'm not sure I've ever seen a situation
where an entire sport turned on a fighter as quickly
as they have on Leon over the past two fights.
And this is coming from a guy who didn't believe
him on the way up and was sort of like,
can we just get him his title defense or his
title opportunity so we can get him out of here.
And he won me over, and he did that, but
as quickly as he won over the sport, it's turned

(15:21):
on him. Let's show some of these pieces first, as
this Sean Bradley, Sean Brady, Sorry, show all right, p
Sean Bradley, Go Birds, Go Birds. Here's Sean Brady on
Instagram with his full team here. So you see Sean
Brady in the middle with his extended handout. They're making
fun in the comments of headshot dead and Sean saying,

(15:41):
y'all don't even got guns in London. I mean, this
is just full on donk hang on the rim, tea
bag in the face. Now, let's go to Brady at
the post fight presser, going a little bit deeper about
where Bellall went wrong.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
You mentioned in the build up that probably wasn't wise
for Leon to be talking about Balal so much, and
I know the media were asking the about below. What
did you make of it?

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Now?

Speaker 6 (16:03):
Do you feel that Leo may have been overlooking you
more thinking about getting revenge himself.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
Yeah, I think he was too worried about Belall. He
was too worried about how tall I am. He was
too worried about a bunch of other things that didn't matter.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
And uh yeah it showed tonight.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
He got he got smoked, So he should have been
more focused on this fight.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Oh, he hit me with a nice elbow.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
I blocked his kicks, Yeah, he did it. Leon likes
to be like a pretty He's like a pretty striker.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
You can't.

Speaker 7 (16:34):
He likes to have his range and have things go
on his terms, and once they start going off his terms,
he does dumb shit like shoot on me, and then
it goes downhill from there.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
That's kind of the key to the wind. He never
let Leon operate in a comfortable middle range position to
get his kicks off. He was just in his face
the whole time. So he did, in some ways kind
of take the ball blueprint adapted to his own skills,
and it was beautiful. It was a great thing to watch.
In fact, we've got a section of tweets here from
Bulall who had a field day.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
He had watching You can.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
See there it says headshot dead, it says.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Sehn copied my homework. Leon's gonna need a big motivational
speech this round. Just how good is balal Mohammed? Leon's
still on five am time zone? Don't let him bully you, son?
And what time is it in London? Asking for Lee?

Speaker 2 (17:25):
So let me ask you, based on what we just
saw here, the critical question is this the beginning of
the end for Leon? Is this just who Leon is?
Or is Leon as an elite fighter already over? How
do you read from yes, he got dominated, but there
seems to be some self implosive tendencies in terms of
his confidence level, which needed that famous fifth round speech

(17:45):
to wake him up against his smid.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
He'll never wear a title again. He'll never wear a
title again. I could say that with total ease.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Not even the the PFL paper view super Fights.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Sorry a UFC title, I apologize, Yes, a UFC town.
I have seen people go so far as to say
Leon was never good, which I really don't agree with that.
That's not true. He is good.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Watch the Usman rematch, watch the coving To fight.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
He's good. He's I mean, that's that to me is
going too far. But the reason people are dunking, I
think is a couple of them. There's a couple of people.
There's a couple of let's back up, Why are people
dunking so hard? One explanation could be a lot of
people were like, he salvaged himself in that rematch with
kamar Usman in the fifth short of that. Where is

(18:28):
he this kind of question like he kind of, you know,
luck boxed his way into that.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, we show that meme to company your statement, right,
show the fast food meme. People are saying this is
who leon And there's a lot of these they're saying.
This is obviously it would have been without the headcake, right,
which is so far past where what we should be
talking about. But it's feeding into people what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
I'm not here to declare that's a valid perspective as
much as I'm to say it's a fairly commonish one.
But the other one, to me is much stronger, which
is okay, again, one more time fighting Bala Mohammed. You
already had to face a bunch of wrestlers in close succession.
You had to face another one. Granted it was at
five am. He might have had some other issues with camp.

(19:07):
Lord knows he had many of excuses. After that fight
BC he fails to perform, and then we come back
around this time and he's saying things like, I'm stronger
than Sean Brady. If I fought Balal ten times, I'm
gonna win nine of them. It looked to me like
he learned absolutely nothing from the Balah Mohammed loss other
than a series of bad circumstances affected him, rather than yes,

(19:32):
those were difficult circumstances. Fighting at five in the morning
has to suck, right, that has to suck At the
same time, to me, the bigger lesson was Blal was
simply better than him, and there were real problems with
his grappling. The kind of grappling that he had gotten
used to for Kumaru and Kolby was totally insufficient against
a guy who's got more updated modern game. And I

(19:54):
think the kind of guy who can do a little
bit more Matt wrestling, well, Sean Brady is that times ten,
not the same kind a wrestler. But on the Matt domination,
once you are dragged down there, dude, look what he
can do. And to have such an arrogant at a
fighters are confident. But I'll tell you what BC everybody knows.
Like when George Saint Pierre was around, I remember there'd

(20:17):
be time after time after time where he would like
big up the guy who he was fighting. And yeah,
of course that was partly promotional.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
But partly bushido.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Partly bushido also that, but also what I and you
know this to be true at the time, But the
older you get, the more you really realize how important
it is these champions who it feels like sometimes they
are forcing humility into their perspective, and maybe it is forced,
but it's forced out of necessity for success at longevity.

(20:47):
In order to be good over the expanse of your career,
you have to over prepare for your opponent, not be
like I'll get by. That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
And you had these concerns pre fight, and I'm like, dude,
this guy's only thirty three was pond last year.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
He was saying bullshit.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
After his fears of his excuses actually turned out to
be right. I gotta give you that, I mean.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
And again I'm gonna say it was fighting Sean Brady
an easy task. Of course it was not, but all
the more reason to take it seriously, all the more
reason to look at the ball out fight and be like,
there might be some lessons I need to learn here.
And of course I know he accepted on short notice.
Was supposed to be Jack dalea Madalena, and that turn
of events probably didn't do him any favors. But Sean

(21:28):
Brady took it a day after his daughter was born
out a barman, in the day after he left the
hospital on short notice, and BC, can we spend a
moment in time talking about him shooting in that third
round can we please stop talk about it.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
I had to stop acquiring sound of people dunking on
him because I had too many pieces for this show.
But Brady went on a rant against it, being like,
that's the most like, that's the stupidest decision I've ever
seen in there.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Okay, go to UFC stats dot com. Okay, UFC stats
dot com and they'll tell you all the stats that
they measure over the fighter's career and individually in around
and in a fight. These include things like knockdowns, takedowns,
strikes that landed, strikes that were attempted, reversal, subs, control, time,
you name it. BC. I could make one argument that

(22:15):
shooting on him is just dumb as shit, no matter what, right,
because I know people like, oh, he did it against Kamorrow.
He did against all these guys, usually to quite poor effect.
He had that one trip or landed amount, but he
didn't do anything with it with Kamora. It looks nice.
What was the functional value? So you're a wrestler now, right,
But the point being is those guys don't have the
same kind of submission or matt wrestling and Matt control

(22:38):
that Sean Brady has, and you might say, well, how
would he's you know, how could you be so sure? Guys,
go to UFC stats dot Com. In the second round
of this fight, in every single category that the stats
providers use to measure what happens in around leon Words

(23:00):
had zero in literally every single one. B See, it's
not that he didn't land to strike, he didn't even throw.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
One because he was on the ground for four minutes
and fifty seven seconds.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Right, So my point being is you get fucking blanked
like that in round two, and then in round three
you have the audacity to shoot on this guy. So
this is what I mean. His arrogance about totally disconnected
from his actual ability relative to his opponents bit him
in the ass big time. But was this all time

(23:34):
bad judgment?

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Comparing all time bad judgment? Was this more or less
desperate than Connor shooting on Nate in round two at
UFC one nineties.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Much more desperate? Sorry? Sorry, sorry sorry sorry? No, that
was desperate because in Connor's case, he was he needed exhausted. Yeah,
he was exhausted. He kind of fell into it. And
that's the other part too. It wasn't even a good shot.
It wasn't even a good shot. Dude, that is one
of the worst decision I have ever seen an elite
prize fighter make. I don't know why he did it.

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People can speculate, you can decide what his motivation is.
I can't mind read. What I can say is if
you're trying to win, that's the worst thing you could
have possibly done. And another reason why folks been appreciate this.
He had all of round two to get a feel
for what a guy like Leon's gonna do. What what when?

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What escape is he gonna try? When I go for
this pass, when I lean this way, you get a
feel for someone's defense, and when there's that much difference
between someone's grappling ability and they begin to get a
feel for your defense. Rounds over new round starts, Dude,
they're gonna carve through you much quicker the next time.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
And you gave it to him, and it wasn't like
as bad in my opinion as the Wideman mistake that
led to him losing the title to rock Hold or
some of these others. Steve versag late in that fight.
That's a bad one too, Gastolam after he hurt out
of Sonia round four, shooting for that takedown.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
You remember that that's a bad one as well.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
There's been a few of those moments. It was a
bad moment, and it's playing into what we're saying the
whole in may world, right or wrong? Maybe wrong, Like
it's aggressive.

Speaker 8 (25:11):
Man.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
People are like, let's get Sky out of the sport now.
So I do feel for Rocky because a lot of
us overlooked him on the way up. Then he got
here and now it's like he was never there to
begin with. That's the sport.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
He was the guy to take out the previous generation
of elite Walter Waitz. Yes, he took out Comoro, he
took out Kolby, but guys like Ballall and Sean they
have a different kind of grappling game for which he
is quite clearly woefully unprepared.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
So he was a transitional champion ultimately in a lot
of ways, which is important.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
And again it's not a question of is he a
good fighter. He is a good fighter, which makes this decision, frankly,
in my mind, all the more indefensible. Yes, but if
you're good and you know, he should have confidence in
his abilities. The confidence comes from doing the work necessary
to handle the respective challenges, not from just these guys

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are scrubs because I don't take them seriously, and that
inability to differentiate between those two things cost him dearly
in this fight.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Unquestionably a final piece in segment one, here is we
always you know group you in the same grouping of
hashtag girl dads of you know, people like you the
Lake Kobe Bryant. It's really changed their life. It's changed
Sean Brady's life too. And here's a little life changing
cashola on top for old Brady.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Behind me.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I got to buy my daughter some stuff when I
get home.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Just genuine right there. Okay, it's like a real life
moment shout out to you know, like Twok's gonna get
new shoes, right, That's what it's like.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Exchanged very briefly some dms with him this weekend.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
I love that man. He's a very, very very quality individual.
Happy forum. Let's go and do topic number two, and
it really is surrounding maybe what could be next for
Sean Brady. Let's hit it. The state of Welterway in
the UFC. I don't know, I'm starting to feel like
this is the deepest division in the sport. There's a
lot going on on a lot of potential contenders. So Luke,
Sean Brady's performance does have the potential to recavoc at

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the top in this title picture of what not what
right now? Like I said, might be among the deepest
two part question here. Let's go with number one first,
A lot of people talking about it. Should Sean Brady,
based on this performance, be allowed to leap frog an injured,
slash inactive Shapcott rock Monoff to get the first shot
at the winner of Balah Mohammad and Jack Dela Mettelena.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
If if it is such the case that by the
time that that fight. When I say that fight, I
mean the welterweight title fight rotation, you know, three to
four months, five months or so somewhere around that, maybe
even six. If Shafcott is not ready and can'tnot be
available on that timeline, yes he should. Now, if Shafcott

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is ready, I'm less inclined that win over Leon. I mean,
if you think about it.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I mean, you have a bon air for Shafcott. Let's
just put it out there.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Well, here's the He was supposed to get the title shot. Yes,
it got taken from him by no fault of his
own and he's still thought he in Gary all and
he's still thought hey in Gary. And again that is
that that fight was not I mean, that win is
not even remotely as impressive. I mean, let's just be clear,
Sean Brady's win over Leon is better than any win
Schofcat has. That's just a fact. But guys, the reality

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is the sport moves very quickly. It's not necessarily all
that surprising that another surgeon contender put together something impressive
while another guy is sitting on the sidelines. That's simply
the nature of what happens during injury timeouts. And I
don't mean in the middle of a fight. I mean
like a timeout in your career. Other guys just keep
the train moving and then all of a sudden you're like, whoa,
I'm kind of behind here. I get it. My point

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being is he was already in that position. I feel
like we have to do right by him.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
But BC, yeah, BAC say it, are you rapping right now?

Speaker 1 (28:51):
I'm so animated because we got so many guys who
I either like their style of fighting, I like him
as people a combination of both. What about Shavcott if
it comes to it, If it comes to it. Shovcot
versus Sean Brady a boner from here to motherfucking handles ago.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
A year ago, we thought we'd be sending Sean Brady
to the butcher shop in that fight, right, a year ago.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Dude, Sean Brady, if he gets on top of anybody
in that division, can submit him. There's nobody in that
division once it gets to the ground. Now, of course,
taking the ball all down not going to be easy,
but if it gets to the match, he can submit
any welterweight on the planet. About that, I am sure, guys.
He had a match. They had handicapped some of the
rules BC around leglocks. Sure, but he went up against

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Craig Jones and beat him.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Sean Brady.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yes, Now again they handicapped the rules about leglocks. It's
not a claim he's actually better than Craig Jones, but
it is to say he's pretty fucking competitive. Yeah, he's
pretty competitive, dude. He doesn't make positional mistakes. That's the
kind of grapple you're dealing with. So we're in the
middle of March Madness BC. You could do JDM and
bellall on one side of the bracket. Shotcott and Sean

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Brady on the other. Now again it's going to make.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
And Gary madd It's what how was Ian Gary lost?
I get it, he's already upset that jack that Jacko
got the title shot over him.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
You mean the guy who came off of a win
over Hi.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Showed in a loss to shot cut that he deserved
to be next.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Right, But you're allowed to take moral victories, right. Moral
victories don't propel you in the rank.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
We're talking about, because I got them on my channel today.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
The next time I take a gigantic l I also
I'm going to go to Puerto Rico and do a
gigantic media toys. Okay, but I'm just being serious. There's
a lot of different plays here. But to me, the
relevant question I want to hear what you have to say,
bec is the relevant question is what is the timeline
for Shotcutt's return?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
That decides it? Because I think Shavecott meritocracally and what
he did for the company fighting Gary, not even for
the interim title, just fighting Gary late notice, because he's
a man, and he and he's forty and he'll take
on anyone who's in front of him. Let's hear though
from friend of the program, Josh Thompson of the Weighing
In Podcast, who believes much stronger than me. He believes
automatically here it should be Brady next.

Speaker 9 (31:04):
Unpopular opinion, but I gotta be honest tonight, Sean Brady's
performance was spectacular, But the question has to be asked,
does he jump Shavecott now for the title shot? Great
finish over Leon Edwards, great performance before that fight as well,
like he's on a terror right now. Shavcott coming off
obviously the win over Jeff Neil and the win over
Ian Gary, which is very lackluster, but that's to be

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expected from two stand up fighters. I think Sean Brady
jumps Shavcot from Shavcott's inactivity. But Sean Brady having such
a great performance, what do you think?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
So if you listen closely, his point is that he
believes the Neil fight, which was the first time we
thought Shavecott might be human because he was getting kind
of lit up at times in those exchanges, mixed with
the Gary fight, in which both were largely ineffective in
trying to overtake the other one, so it became more
of a point fight that if you mix that with
the injury. That right now, even if Shavcott was healthy,

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Sean Brady's the more active guy taking out big names,
and look what he just did to the former champ.
After hearing that argument, I mean, it's it's, it's I
kind of understand it. I still I would lean shav
Cut Obviously it'll depend on the injury. But what do
you think about Josh's take.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Here's the it's it's it's not crazy logic, and Josh
Thompson we like him over here at MK. It's not crazy,
it's not crazy logic. I don't agree, but it's definitely
not something that I don't know what kind of reaction
he got. He was saying it's unpopular. I don't know
how unpopular that would be. Actually, I've definitely seen some
whispers of that in conjunction with this one. It's it's

(32:31):
I'll say it again, there's no question who has the
single best win between Sean Brady and Schofcott Rock Modo.
Sean Brady does submitting Leon Edwards and dude like he
didn't just submit Leon Edwards. He fucking big brothered him.
He big brothered him like it was it was it
was that was dude, that was light work for Sean.

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I mean, the first round was obviously, you know, fine,
but after that that was fucking light work for him.
And that is crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Where did you get the redness in the eye? Was
that on that elbow?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Where was that? I mean, again, in the first round,
like a little bit in the second actually, or maybe
the third he came out and popped him a little bit,
but he was he was catching him with some of
those elbows. We talked about the elbows and the clinch,
did we not clinch was gonna be interesting position? And
at first of all, like Leon was doing pretty great
in the first round, but then that all went to
shit again. I just feel like if you promise a

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guy a title shot, the only way you really rescind
that is when they can't meet any kind of normal
return to activity on a reasonable timeline. Also, we'll say this,
Sean Brady did already fight Boal Mohammed if Billaw ends
up beating JDM, and I did. I think Billa very
clearly deserves to be the favorite in that fight. Now again,
JDM is dangerous, but whatever, if he wins, you're just

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gonna put Brady right back in front of him, you
could do that, but Shofkat, if he's not far behind,
is a fresh matchup, and then you can see what
kind of happens thereafter. By the way, it also depends
on what Sean Brady wants to do. Does he want
to wait, does he want to get back out there?
Does he want to be you know, uh, the lead
consistent in terms of his frequency.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Well, he personally believes, and we got sound to throw
to that. Although what's going against him, of course, is
that he already fought Balo and got knocked out. He
believes he did the Leon way worse than Belal did,
and that plays into this argument. Let's listen to Sean
Brady about the future.

Speaker 10 (34:16):
But All tweeted Sean copied my homework. Was that a
plan going into this fight to put on pressure on Leon?
Because we have noticed when you give him space and
throw the let kikes and you come into his game.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Was that a plan of it?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (34:29):
I mean I think I did a lot better than
belaw did. I think Balall lost a couple of rounds.
He had his back taken for an entire round. I
think it was what three to two when they fought.
I dominated Leon every round no one's ever did it
like me. And then I submitted him and made him
quit in front of his hometown. You weren't gonna if
we were Philly, you ain't making me quit in front

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of my hometown. I'll tell you that I'm going to
sleep son.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
So so, Luke, those are some interesting points as well.
I want to get Long Island Luke's take from a
generate level. If Sean Brady was fighting Ballall next, or
if Baall beats Jack Della and then we do that
fight anyway, what would the odds be based on all
of these facts we're talking about right here.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
I think just based on the first fight, Balall has
to be the favorite. Sure, Sean definitely his stock went.
He probably closed the odds a little bit after this performance.
But I still think Blall is gonna be like minus
one seventy five Sean plus one fifties.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
But that'd be shown Sean a lot of respect based
on the three fights since that Ballall fight.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Listen, this this should be an episode where we talk
great about Sean Brady and I certainly we've been doing that.
We probably will continue to do it for quite a
long time. If you rewatch the first fight, well, the
only fight between Brady and and Balall. Do Ballall look
really good? He shut down those takedowns very quickly and
then popped in with that right hand as he moved

(35:48):
over like this is what I mean. We're just gonna
put like, why would you do a rematch when the
first fight? To Ballall's credit, I'm not trying to bash
Brady in any way. It's a great weekend for him.
But Blall won that one pretty cleanly.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Sure that'll go against him in this larger one.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
What I mean is give it a little bit of time.
Let's let's let's wait a little bit so we get
a different vert or, at least in theory a potentially
a different version of that fight the second time around,
So anywhere you go.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
We also have a stat here on Twitter showing some
Sean Brady stuff here fun facts, says Neredith geche at
nerd underscore Geychee. Sean Brady is the only fighter to
have a winning record after fighting Balah Mohammed since that loss.
Of course, Brady, now I thought he was three and
oh they're saying no, he's three and oh, since then
this must have maybe this came out before the fight

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because he's now three and oh, because he'd beat Gastolm
and then he beat the last day.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
He's smashed Gilbert Gilbert.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Burns in the last one and as you can see
all the other fighters there, no one has scored a
victory after that. That is a very interesting stat. Now
it still means that of shaf Kottarthy he deserves it.
But the second half of this state of welterweight question
is interesting, Luke, and I want to get your personal
take care. Can you share for me your top five
pound for pound ranking right now in the UFC at

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one hundred and seventy pounds, including champion and including contenders,
and not necessarily in terms of accomplishments, just the other
half of the pound four pound debit, current stock, pure
ability right now. You can add in momentum because that matters.
Who is your working five right now at one hundred
and seventy pounds.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
I just want to say, I can see your list
here and I cannot believe it, all right, cannot Yeah,
why don't you go first? Because I want to be clear.
I think your list is insane.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
This is great, all right, this is gonna be wonderful.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Mean, these are all good fighters. Your list is nuts.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Okay, Number five, I really toyed with this, but I'm
going Joaquin Buckley that part. I'm okay with the finishes
of light, the wind streak, the maturity that he's showing,
the confidence, all of that momentum matters. He's got that.
Number four, Sean Brady.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I think this is weird positioning.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Number three, blah mohammeds that is you are?

Speaker 1 (37:50):
You are so fucking wait till you see who's number two?

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Number two?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
I I quit, I fucking quit. How do you have
him above fucking Sean Brady.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Because I think he has this ability to stuff takedowns,
take away your strength and put you into a point fight.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Matt He's got he's got super limited offense.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I get that, but he but he puts you into
the terms of him from distance point fight Sean.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Sean Brady just submitted the former champion.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I got that. But he went in there against that
killer Shavcott and made him look human and and I
know he didn't win the fight. I'm not trying to
do the Berlinco victory tour. I'm not saying give e
in the next title shot. I'm not saying that I'm
not even saying that I'm this big closity and Gary superfan.

Speaker 7 (38:35):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
I'm just saying he has this ability to swim at
this very high level, and I think there's a reason,
even though sometimes he looks overwhelming, there's a reason why
people don't dominate him and body him and get him.
I have him too, and then of course number one,
I have Shavcott, although I'm I see the doubt of late.
Maybe it's been fueled by injury and all that. Maybe
a prime, full camp, healthy shop cut is a different

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story for everybody. But that's my five at the moment.
Long out Luke like, So that's me basically saying I
think Ian Gary could stuff Sean Brady's advancement and make
it a different fight. Am I crazy?

Speaker 5 (39:08):
I don't think you're crazy, But I don't agree he's
huge for this weight class.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
As I think he's he's not huge.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
I'm swapping out Buckley for JDM in your top five.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
So I I get that. But I looked at jdm's
recent run. It's not just the inactivity of the injury.
He was getting pieced up by Gilbert until he until
he won that Filbertie dude, I don't think I haven't
seen a dominant JDM performance against an elite guy lately
where I'm like, yes, he really is that guy.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, but what have you seen from Buckley? You haven't beating.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Explosive winds against legitimate names.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
He beat four people in a year, and he looks
really good doing it. I can understand that.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
I don't have too far out, like you know, I mean, okay,
fair enough, but.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
He had to start somewhere, But like, where would you
put Buckley out outside?

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Yeah, I'm going JDM five. I'm going okay, I think
you guys are high Ian Gary four. I'm going blall
three two and ballall one.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Okay, let me go, let me do mine. I like
his better, but number two three okay, I'm gonna go
number one. And I can't believe this is even debatable. Dude,
put some fucking respect on.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
I have respect on him. He's number one.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Blow Muhammad with a bullet, dude. He has surprised me.
I didn't see it. Listen. I didn't see his ascension
coming either. I'm not some fucking grand sage. But it happened.
It happened, and he did that win over Sean Brady
go back and watch it. It ages well super well. Okay,
he's number one, number two because he submitted a former champion,
Sean Brady is that number shot Cut is going to

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be at three. Now, that's a call.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
So you're leaning into the doubt around Shavkat.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
I'm not leaning into the doubt. I have to respect
what these other guys are showing.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
But I'm telling you we're not branking today's thing on accomplishments.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Right I understand. Okay, well, but you wrote. You wrote
not in terms of accomplishments, just in terms of current
stock pure ability, slash momentum pure ability. What Sean Brady
showed is comp.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
We'll have a crazy massive momentum as well right now,
even though he was hurt lately.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
But yeah, dude, he has improved like to such a degree.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
You know it's controversial. I'm just telling you, I think
we're missing the rise of Gary. I think we're missing
part of it. We're missing the full package.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I'm gonna go four Walking Buckley, and then five Ian Gary.
I think it's comical to put Ian Gary in front
of any of the other four guys. So wait, Buck first, Cook,
who you taking? Buck Cook?

Speaker 3 (41:26):
What do we do.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
What are we doing? Why?

Speaker 5 (41:28):
That's an average Joe Art original piece.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I take Buckley, I take Buckley. I'm taking.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
So you think Buckley what stops?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
I think Buckley is. I think Buckley is further along
in his development. Now that being said, Ian Gary is
quite young. I think how much younger is Ian Gary
than Woking Buckley? Can you look that up? I gotta
look it.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, yeah, Buckley's like mid thirties.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Ian Gary, I think, is like late twenties. So I
think the thing is Ian Gary's got more time to
get good, whereas some of these other guys are a
little bit further along because they or older, not all
of them, obviously, but certainly gives a blal and stuff
like that. So it's not a question of ultimate upside.
But right now, looking at the stock ticker, who's impressing
me with their ability, momentum and stock? Yeah it's walking

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Buckley over eat okay?

Speaker 5 (42:14):
I and Gary is twenty seven years old. Walking Buckley
will be thirty in about a month.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Oh so Buckley's only twenty nine. I take that back.
I thought he was older. He was like thirty five.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Still, he's in the middle of his athletic This is
what I mean. He's in the middle of his athletic prime.
Ian Gary hasn't even started.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Okay, what if I had swapped it out? What if
I left shof Cut at one, but I put Ballall
at two and I put Geeing Gary at three? Would
this have been a controversy or crazy at all? I
don't think. I mean, I think it's just swapping ballaal
and Gary on two and three. I think we're going
to be wrong about Ian Gary. I think we are.
I think he's he's building something here and it's don't
it doesn't line of spectacularity that makes us go I'm

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not sure. But who's body in this guy?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
What is Ian Gary's best win?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I mean, MVP did tournament to a wrestler, but he
figured out a way. Gary his best win the loss
against Jevcott is I and Gary.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
That's not But that's the truth. That's the truth. Okay,
but that's that's not a thing.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
You got to go in there, dude. This is why
what Sean Brady did is so impressive. He went in
there again. These people have been like, oh, Leon was
never good, Yes he was, Yes he was. You can
say he fucked up in this fight and he's got
other issues, because that's true, but he's real good. Sean
Brady went in there against a known, credible achiever and
demolished him. Ian Gary simply hasn't done that yet.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Okay, So let's say Shafcott is healthy and this whole
segment in debate is unnecessary. It really might be, and
Gary versus Sean Brady is the next fight, that number
one contender fight.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
And Sean Brady, to me into other outlets, has called
out Ian Gary. I believe they have the same manager.
It's something that I know he wants because dude, I
think Sean Brady looks at the grappling as like, I'm
gonna feast on this guy.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Okay, so long, I don't look, this is where we
need your best degeneracy. Give us if this is the
number one contender fight next, give us the odds for
Sean Brady versus Ian Michuttle Gary.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Personally, I'm favoring Sean, but it'd be close. I'm gonna
go like minus one thirty Sewan plus one point fifteen
Ian Gary.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
I'm just saying I believe that I get what we
just saw from Brady, which was incredible. Is is literally
us changing the conversation and asking if if he should
be in the title shot next. So I'm giving him
his respect. I'm saying, don't sleep on who Ian Gary
really is. Don't don't miss this.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I believe in what Ian Gary can become.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
His wife sex does not live with him.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
It was a false rumor. Don't I guess this. I
can't believe the most under sexed males completely don't understand
his life. But you need to hear nor there. I
believe fully BC, because I got you know what I'll
can I be honest with you. Your promotion of Ian
Gary to me, feels a little bit like not Kevin
Lee future World Championship. By the way, I was totally
on board with I was totally on board with No.

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It feels to me like Francis is gonna wrestle serial
kind of thing. To me, it happening.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
I did get that right there, You got it right exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
That's what I'm saying. I think that will age. Well,
it's not a question of what Ian Gary will become.
I got you just where he is right now. And
Sean Brady's doing really impressive shit hey waits on division.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Because I could have put Carlos Protest right on the
outside of that top five that we don't know. This
guy could be a fucking hot knife coming through.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
And I gotta say, we kind of treat welterweight sometimes
a little bit like you know, it's it's not as
bad as middleweight, but it's a far cry.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
From You got a lot of wonder boys, a lot
of Colby's lingering right like.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
That, But unlike lightweight, you're looking at the young guys
starting to push them all out. Now Belos a little
bit older, but you know how much time does he
have left on top? It's hard to say. I freaking
love what's happening at welterweight. This is what's supposed to happen,
healthy divisional turnover with the new guys coming in and
pushing out some of the older ones. Great great Mardallas
also on that list right, one hundred percent, he's on

(45:43):
that list. You built like a fucking tank, yep, Luke.

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(46:27):
get some Quervo. We're gonna get after a loaded Miami card.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
That Miami card, and I'm glad you brought this up.
It's not gonna be on a Friday. It's gonna be
on a Wednesday. It's gonna be in a Wednesday, folks.
So that way we can get maximum time in front
of your eyeballs, yes.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
And provide for my vacation. A couple of days later.
I have one thing to show you. Breaking news from
the Joe. It happened Saturday night on the Joe Rogan
What did they call that? That live fight the Fight
Companion podcast, Joe said, And I want to get Luke's
live reaction. Joe said, quote, I won't be at UFC
three fifteen. I don't go to Canada any more. I'd

(47:00):
rather go to Russia. End quote. This has been quote
tweeted by MMA Fighting even made a post in a.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Picture of Canada is a great place with great things
to see and great people like his loss. Honestly, you
know what I means. This is a personal This fucking
bullshit about going after Canada is so fucking lame. Canada rocks,
like I got nothing about to say about the coldest
funk how about that?

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Even Shakille Majudy's texts.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Okay, you know what now I hate Canada again?

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah, you know what's right? All right? Hey, let's go
to topic number three and it is, of course the
rest of UFC London beginning.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Oh time out real quickly, if I may, I am sorry,
please bring we are supposed to get Kane Velaskiz is
sentencing in about ten minutes long island. Luke, can you
uh check out Nolan King on Twitter, he's there. I think, okay,
thank you, sorry, we'll go.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
UFC London's Cole main event was a big storyline there
in the light heavyweight division and in the larger title
blong look and then in the larger title picture because
Carlos Oldberg claimed what would turn out to be a
pretty disputed three round decision or was it? That's why
we're here to debate against former champion of the Amblohovitch.
So Luke, plain and simple, we both watched this fight.

(48:17):
Is there justification for all three judges scoring at twenty
nine to twenty eight, two rounds to one for Carlos
Olberg against his forty two year old opponent who is
coming back after nearly a two year layoff.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
I there are two ways to get title shots. Two ways.
One is you can go through and simply conquer a
division as a contender where you're just marching down big names,
you're winning all the important fights, and you look like
a million bucks. Fans are interested, you might be marketable.
You can all think of a million scenarios in which

(48:50):
that has happened. Chris Widman, Connor McGregor, you name it.
There's just a million. That's one way to get a
title shot. There's another way to get a title shot,
which is not so much conquering, it's qualifying. Did you
get enough wins? Is there someone else a little bit ahead?
Does the UFC need you for some particular reason as
you're a fresh contender, do you speak to a certain market?

(49:11):
Do you you know? Whatever the case may be to
me in this case, I think the scoring we need
to talk about the scoring round by round because you
look at the judge of score cards, they're all over
the we have them. Oh okay, so let's look at
them here for a second. But my point being is
from a broad perspective, leave them up if you can
well look from a broad perspective, Carlos Alberg has qualified
for a title shot. Yes he has qualified, but he

(49:34):
hardly has a mandate. Now to the point about the
scoring individually, I.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Think in terms of his mandate he prefers went out.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
The point I'm trying to make is, if you look
at this, there isn't there isn't. I don't think a
single round on all. The third round, sorry, the second round,
that's the only one they all agree on, which I
got to say that probably was to me Olberg's better round.
I had it kind of like I'm gonna say I

(50:03):
had it like Ben Cartilage had it.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
I gave it. See round two is the only one
I gave to Belohov.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
You gave round two to Blohoid.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
I did. Look, this was a very close fight. They
both kind of canceled each other out. There was a
lot of focus on the calfkicks. There wasn't takedowns, there
wasn't dominant I mean, I thought Jan landed that two
punch combination that was the swing sequence in that close
second round for.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Me, I'll tell you what I scored it. For Blahovich,
I know, I thought Olberg was gonna win on Friday's MK,
and I guess you know obviously he did. But I
thought after the fight was over, I was like, I
think Blovich took it. And for MEBC, I want to
get long Island Luke's score here in just a minute.
For me, BC, the difference was And I would love
to see what you think about this, I thought Lahovich,
even if he wasn't landing numerically as much as Olberg,

(50:48):
Olberg did do more labor. Sure, I thought Plahovich was
visibly landing with more impact.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Well, that's why I scored the second round for him,
and you just clowned it, like that's that's the Are
you clowning that it's the only round I scored. That
it's the only round, okay, which is which I think.
It's just the central part of this debate. I think
because I was remember I wasn't watching live. I was
sort of told by the internet coming in that this
is the nicest guy in the world, Thean Blokhovich, and
he is. It's a great interview.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
We love him.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
He's on this run of not getting the benefit of
the doubt. When you consider the I'm sorry, the title
draw he had against Unkliev, you consider when he welcomed
Poetan to the division via split decision defeat. There's a
lot of people that say the wrestling should have been
scored more in the way he controlled Pereira and he
could have won that all poor John. This is the
third time in a row they don't give him the respect,
and then I go watch it. Yes, there's times he's

(51:34):
chewing them up to the to the calves, and I
did like that the couple the two sequences actually around
two where he threw combinations in close and landed big shots,
but overall I felt, because it was so close in
terms of the impact of the strikes, that Olberg was
the busier guy and in some ways had longer controls
minor controls of the terms. But like there, I just
liked his offense better in a fight where I don't

(51:56):
think either guy rose. I thought it was kind of
a stalemate ultimately, so I didn't see the big screw
job or debate. I thought it was a It was
a lot like when yan Belkovitch was climbing the light
heavyweight ladder and he had that main event against Jock Array,
and I was thinking, dude, if he knocks him out,
this could be the breakthrough shot for a title. And
what did Yon do. He played wrestle defense the whole
time and won a boring five round decision. But he

(52:18):
moved the chains, got in there against Corey Anderson in
his next fight, knocked him out, and then got his
title shot. And that's what happened. I get that sometimes
it's just about winning, and this is what it turned
out for Olberg. And if we're gonna have the you
know you can, we can have the discussion of has
he shown you ability wise that he's ready for the
title compared with how much that eight win streak actually shows.
But I think this fight was a flip of the
coin ultimately, and who won that. I don't see the

(52:39):
screw job element? Am I crazy?

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I'll look, how'd you score it? So?

Speaker 5 (52:44):
I had a bet on Blohovich, so I was obviously
rooting for him, but I scored it first round Yon
two three for Olberg. I don't think there's any scorecard
here that would surprise me. I was saying this the BC.
You could have gone thirty twenty seven Yon, thirty twenty
seven Oldberg or twenty nine to twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Either way.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
Every round was really close. Do you think round one
was a Yan, Round two three Olberg?

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Though?

Speaker 1 (53:03):
I mean I I was surprised Olberg won. I thought
Yan won it, but I don't think it's close. I
don't think it's a screw job.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Okay, So if you are surprised, then what what was
it from the Blohovic deteck? Just the fact that he
did seem to land the harder.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Yeah, harder ship yeah. And again you got good judges
like Ben Cartilage is a really good jobs.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
I met him through uh bronstat Or in Vegas. A
very nice guy.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah yeah, and he's like, dude, he's hardcore, like he's
trying to be the best judge in the world. And
he might be. But the point I'm trying to make is,
it's not like I don't think. It's not like I
can't comprehend what the Olberg? How you get to twenty
nine twenty eight with Olburg? I totally understand that. I
would just like to hear a vision articulated. Is it
because he out volumed him? Are we granting? Are you

(53:42):
admitting that it looked in all three rounds that Jan
landed the harder shot.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
No, I'm saying in round two it definitely did. I
gave him that round and I felt wrong.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
One and three were just you didn't get that vibe. Yeah, man,
I don't know. I thought that there were so many
times he was taking him off of his foundation.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Maybe this is the reason why Carl los Oldberg one.
Can we show the three judges faces? See I saw
this meme about c KB, and I'm thinking, okay, okay,
this man, they screwed my guy. And I'm not saying
I'm overly impressed by Carlos.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
Why does kai Kara have the belt in this picture?

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah, that is a little weird.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
That is weird. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
He never won the inuterarm title right, lost to Marina
for Yeah, but he never had it, So that's all
a joke and stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
I just here's the thing. It's like MMA and any sport,
but in particular MMA, and obviously it's one we're talking about.
The fans have their favorites, and Lhovich has been something
of a favorite Folish power. They love the memes, they
love his attitude, and again they like the way he fights,
like dude Yon Blohovich. By the way, I gotta say
he looked his age, but he didn't look I didn't

(54:48):
know how he was going to look. From a fluidity standpoint,
he looked pretty fluid.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
He shook the rust off pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Yes, it just looked at me like he kind of
faded down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
I don't think he had the stamina to go for takedown,
That's what I and that maybe could have been the totally.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
I think he didn't have that extra gear really put
it on him, whereas Olberg kind of did, and so
that kind of made a difference in the end. But
the point I want to make is they love Blahovich
and so was it close? Yes, so their favorite guy
ended up losing a you know, not controversial but difficult
to accept, close fight, and I think that explains some
of the stuff you now we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Hear from Carlos. Not Carlos protest, Carlos Oldberg. Sorry in
a second, but were you I don't want I don't
know if impressed is the word. But do you feel
like Oldberg is showing us that he's ready.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
For the title? No, yeah, I didn't get that.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
By all right, let's hear his take on that.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
Do you feel that win really announces you at the
very top of the division and the top of the
sport now for sure?

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (55:43):
And if you look at guys like the current champion
and the former champion, their last fight with with Jaanbrohovitch
was a very close fight as well, and I beat
him with a united decision UD.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
So it's a very good feat for me.

Speaker 6 (55:58):
Final on Pereira and live rematch if that's next. Who's
coming out on top of that?

Speaker 1 (56:04):
I'm not too sure.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
I don't I haven't even seen the fight yet, but
but I'll go back and I'll watch the fight too,
and then we'll see, we'll see what it places me to.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
Jerry Pratchka mentioned he was interested in the winner of
your fight next if you weren't going to get a
title shot you and how do you feel you'd match
up with him?

Speaker 4 (56:25):
Yeah, for sure, I'll get anyone. But I mean, where
is he placed at the moment. I'm looking to go
forward for sure, and I'm definitely looking at a title
shot in the near future.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
I get Olberg's stance there, but the other two guys
who fought, yeahn weren't fighting a guy coming off for
eighteen months off with double soulder surgery, So that you know,
some of that does matter right to some degree, and
in that, but what do you make I think we
all would like him against Jerry Perhatsko if he can't
get the winner of that rematch, for sure, But shouldn't
he get the winner of that rematch between akeliav In

(56:57):
and Poton? Or do you would you be more than
fine with making Olberg go in there against a killer
and have to really earn it.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
I think I'd be okay with it. It's fucking light heavyweight.
I think we just need to kind of accept where we.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Are with this.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Okay, And here's the thing. It's like, dude, Yuri look
really good against Jamal Hill. We talked about some of
the differences taking defense seriously, and it only made him better,
it only made him more dead or it only made
him deadlier. And so for that reason, like I kind
of want to see how he does with all with
this new perspective and a lot of different scenarios, but
we just can't feed. We don't have any interesting contenders. Honestly,

(57:33):
I think is the only one Olbert fights Yuri. I
think Yuri shoves him into the woodship Ornest. Yeah, but
then if he does, you're just gonna have Yeeri potentially
against Poeton again because Polton could win the rematch, you know,
you never know.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah, I think they would do that.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Again.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
And let's see a wholesome moment. We can talk over this.
No volume at the hotel afterwards. Oh there is volume.
Now there's no volume. So that is Olberg going up
to Blokhovich and ultimately, look the So the message was
he urged Jon not to retire, told him he doesn't
want him too, told him he still has it obviously
Yan's a great dude, So they raised a pint together.
You know, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go nuts on

(58:11):
Bushido because we got enough toxic trash.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
In this sport.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
So it feels good on that.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
But do you think he on at forty two should
carry on?

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Yeah? Yeah, I think I don't. I wouldn't say that
very normally, but I think he does have to be
careful with his matchmaking, yes, because he looks to me
like he still wants to get back and that one
more push for the title. I don't know if that's
in the cards, to be perfectly honest with you, although
I guess at light heavyweight you're never that far away.
But I get the thing that I say, the thing
that I would have concern about is he tries to

(58:43):
keep going for this and then ends up fighting somebody
he probably shouldn't and then, for the first time ever,
really gets hurt. Yeah, and that would give me.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Some concern get blanked by my head tap back and middleweight.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Back in the day, okay, but at two oh five
words devastating, Yeah, Yeah, but I see I think is
has he ever been stup?

Speaker 2 (59:01):
I thought long on, can I remember now you got
the internet r in front of you.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Who are we talking about right now? I'm Toovich.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Wellhovich didn't he get ko by Maheta viciouslyep although it
was like back at midleweight back in the.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Day, so look I might have been at two five. Yeah, exactly.
So he lost to Jimmy Mannon with via decision. He
lost to Gustafson and Patrick Cummins via decision. He lost
to Thiago via ko in the third round. But I
think that's a two to five because I think he
had moved up to Thiago, that is, Yeah. And then
he lost to Glover. He got subbed out by Glover.

(59:30):
He lost to Maga mat or there was a draw anyway,
Well the Glover was the title shot.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Yeah, it was the title defence.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
So he's got the draw to Maga mat and then
he has the back to back losses to poets Hon
and Olberg. But here's my point, he's lost four of
his last five. Yes, that is a problem.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
That doesn't matter. I got clowned from my Gooner Nelson
pronunciation the other day. Don't people remember, like five years ago,
there was a point where that UFC was trying to
tell us that that's the way you pronounce it, and
then everybody just gave it up after that.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
That is correct. There was a moment, there was a
brief moment where they were trying to tell us it
was gooner, but I think Gooner's got a different meaning now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Gunnar Nelson went in there against Kevin Holland in a
welterweight about There's a lot of crazy grappling sequences, some
good moments of ground and punp from Holland. Ultimately, Holland
takes a three round unanimous decision. Luke, we talked so
much about Holland like always willing to be taking tough
fights last minute. He only cares about fighting four or
five times a year. He's the new cowboy. Like this

(01:00:23):
kind of is a good thing that he came out
there with that performance. But are you I'm still wary
is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
For the future. I dude, I gotta tell you, I
thought this was a very good performance from Kevin Holland.
We said it on Friday, Man, Kevin Holland is a
skilled fighter, but he wants to. Yes, he when he
wants to, he's good. I mean, there is simply no argument.
He doesn't need to be fighting at eighty five, and
I saw what he had to say. I think you
have the clab. Let's play this clip because this one

(01:00:50):
just bummed me the fuck out. Man.

Speaker 11 (01:00:52):
If it's one hundred and seventy pounds, then you know,
let's be smart.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
I got that same computer.

Speaker 11 (01:00:56):
Let's be smart, and I'll freaking you know, I'll possibly
do you know, a couple months down the road, then
another one a couple months down the road. If it's
one hundred and seventy pounds, probably only get two more
in this year, three at the most if it's one
hundred and eighty five pounds, so I can fight there
every fucking weekend.

Speaker 10 (01:01:14):
One question for me, what are you going to do
now you're done with fighting for it for today?

Speaker 11 (01:01:20):
Now that I'm done fighting today, I haven't smoked weed
in a little bit, so I'm pretty sure somebody in
the at the hotel I have some, and I'll burn
that back like it's just a tree stow. The amount
of money I make these days, I could slow down.
The amount of money I make these days, I could
definitely slow down, But the amount of money I spend
these days, I stay active.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
That's exactly what Cowboys Ronnie used to say. He'd be like,
I want to fight four times, five times a year
because I want to buy this boat.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
That's but you know, I mean, it's like the Chris
Litel approach where you you know you might win, you
might lose, but you rack up enough bonuses you can
put your kids through college and get, you know, get
some retail property.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
So I'm asking, is this a strategy from Holland or
does it just play into his personality.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
I'll say this, if he can reasonably keep himself safe
where we're doing this doesn't put him at I mean,
fighting more frequently is going to be more is going
to be worse for your health than not fighting at all, obviously,
But I guess what I'm trying to say is if
you're completely and totally punting on the idea that you
need to maximize your ability to climb the ladder to

(01:02:24):
fight for a title, and that there's another business model
that you can take advantage of and still be famous.
You don't get the highest high end of the purses,
but you might get a pretty good one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
And you might upset a big name all the way.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
And just fuck it. So it's frustrating for me to
hear that. Also, like I'm worried about his spending habits.
Remember he was like showing out ice and stuff, and
I'm like UFC fighters showing off their ice is like
red Flag City. But the point either way, I'm glad
that he is in a place where he doesn't have
to have the title to get some financial stability and
even comfort. But it is frustrating to watch a guy

(01:02:57):
this good that I know, especially shut away.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
He's got wins where you're like, man, if he cared,
and I think if he focused on grappling a lot too,
Like there's a he moved down and wait and the
motor was somehow even stronger, you know, But.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
You know what blew me away was in that first round, Dude,
Kevin Holland's guard was good. Yeah, it was defensively good.
He didn't get past he was threatening with the submissions,
and you're not gonna threat. You're not gonna really submit,
Gunner Nelson, That's really not gonna happen in all likelihood,
and he stays jacked by the way he does stay jack.
But the thing I'm trying to point out is you're
probably not gonna sub him, but he was definitely keeping

(01:03:32):
him honest. He was definitely keeping him honest the whole time,
which by itself, you're not getting past and you're threatening
at least a little bit with the guard. Dude, that's
hard to do. And then he dropped him at the
end of the first I was like, dude, Kevin Holland
is freaking good when he wants to be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
When he wants to be, that's the question. Meet Paul
Molly will no longer be around Molly McCann and what
turned out to be her final about here did give
us a nice moment with the Liverpool crowd and you
saw Patty Pimblet crying, but it came after her first
round mission lost to Alexia Tainara Luke. This is where
I really regret the UFC YouTube police that prevent us

(01:04:06):
from showing any form of broadcast footage of any event anymore,
because even though this topic, and even though the fallout
of this bout will be about that that meteor that
was the meat ball Molly experience that came through and
gave us some spinny shit and got a barstool's sponsorship
and all that, but tay Nara's dance to the cage,

(01:04:27):
which was very Michel Pereira esque, but the celebration dive
slash twork grind into like the monster logo in the
center of the cage was one of the most unhinged,
incredible moments in UFC history, up there with Big Boy
Chris Barnett doing the flip and the split and all that. Uh,
can we talk about that dance? First? Is this is

(01:04:49):
Tyinara even good? Because I got some Fiona vibes. I've
got some theatrical Demopolis vibes. This could be musty TV
every time out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
She was full of life, was she not? I mean,
I'm being serious, she was what she was full of wine,
Pam dude, Like, my daughter will go around the house
yelling and you know she she won't hear this. She's
not necessarily Aretha Franklin when it comes to singing, Oh
come on, let it go, please, Okay, well let it go,
let it go. So my point is, though it doesn't

(01:05:17):
matter right because she's joyful. She brings joy to the house.
She's happy to saying. You know, she's full of life too.
Don't like that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
You just not do this?

Speaker 7 (01:05:29):
Please?

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
When I even like mention this kind of thing around
my daughter. What I'm trying to make is I don't
know how good she is because frankly, I don't really
know what it means to beat Molly McCann. It's certainly
not nothing, and by the way, to do it on
like insanely short notice that is impressed.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Not in Liverpool but in the UK there. It's a
big one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
It's a big one. I think the thing I would
come away with is, do you now have interest in
seeing what's next for Tainara in a way that perhaps
you never imagined before. Yeah, I guess I would imagine that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
I'd long island. Look what was the main card minute
live reaction like to the celebration and submission from well dude.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
We were all saying she's going to gas out in
two minutes. But I will say I was calling all week,
was gonna arm bar Molly. I am happy she got
the sub, but I was calling the arm bar so
a little bummed the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Molly fought off that first deep choke attempt aggress Well,
remember she Tinara had to offend off the sub attempt
for Molly, then take the back then go for the sub.
Didn't quite work. She had the one handed bit and
then she readjusted and got the buy. I think it
was a bicep grip. Whatever it was, you know, it
was good work by her. And then she did the
diving TOWRK. I'd never seen diving twice. I've seen some torking,

(01:06:37):
you know. I I've seen some towerking in my days,
but I'd never seen a diving torque like that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
As marine, as an ex marine, there's no such thing
of you. You definitely have seen it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Lude. Can I just tell you the absolute ash trade,
washed up fucking husks of former humans that I've seen
doing stripping in strip clubs in the smallest, worst town
ever imaginable.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Oh yeah, we keep those stories to ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
I've seen I went to uh I went to a
strip club once and the girl who was like the
afternoon because you know it was daylight, because I'm a
fucking degenerate, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
They got a buffet.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Do you think the tater tots at strip clubs at
Camelot in New York, Camelot in d C. Which is
first of all, I've been thrown out of there. I've
been thrown out of Camelot and I've eaten the buffet
Here's what I want to point out though. I one
time I went to one in the middle of the afternoon,
and you know, they don't put like the full array
of dancers in the middle of the day. The one

(01:07:39):
that was there was taking shots with all the patrons
and then fell off the poll because she was so
drunk and had They had to come and like like
take her backstage, and there was like a like an
hour long intermission where they didn't have anybody on stats.
They play music during thession and I waited the full
intermission because I was pathetic in my twenties, just a
little how.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
We transition from that story into this, But Luke, how
will you remember Molly McCann, who who look was an
honest fighter with a good backstory and a lot of
charisma and spunk and went all in on her fight's
win or lose. How do you remember Molly McCann. I
mean feel like I'm trying not to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
No, it's not even I'm not gonna sit her to
be disrespectful about it. I mean she had She was
a reasonably important figure as a newer generation of UK
stars emerged on the MMA scene.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
The Robin to Patty's Batman.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Yeah. I mean I think it was important for big
personalities to get out there and carry the flag for
the UK, which she did. She absolutely did. She played
a big role, you know in terms of like best
wins and like what her career meant and all that stuff.
You know, it never really got out to any kind
of degree where you have to assess that sort of thing,
but I think we can all agree she was a
personality and an identifiable figure for the fan base for

(01:08:55):
that era of fighters, and you know she did well
for herself.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Removed by Patty Tears on the way up. No, all right,
Luke Thomas said what he said. So Luke John of
Bannon of Ireland had a quite a turnaround from getting
head kicked by her opponent and getting floored to turning
that into a arm bar of sorts and a spectacular win.
But this was very regional mma.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Like, to be fair, a win like that should never
happen at the UFC to move ahead one time or
defend Kujitomar doing nothing to defend that arm bar other
than a little bit of standing. Basically, these type of.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Fight stand prefers ultimately like being straight up and honest.
That is the type of fights he prefers.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Those are TV fights, I guess to an extent. I mean,
I do think he likes like the high level guys too,
but that listen, I'm gonna say it again. Every part
of MMA has its place. Yes, amateur MMA has its place, regional, international,
and then full on world level, but that is very
far from world level MMA, and it's on a world

(01:10:01):
level card and I don't I don't want that from
the premiere MMA organization. I want, you know, either world
level MMA or something very close to it. This is
a far cry from that. So I'm like, I give
Bandon credit like that's she got. She got drilled and
then rallied. That's not easy to do. She's obviously got

(01:10:21):
some like significant heart credit sewer like that's tough to do.
But in terms of skill development, there's a long way
to go between those two being anywhere approximating world level.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
I know you don't speak Reddit, but your delivery of
I don't want that was so in tune with Theovonne
on his last episode of King and the Sting when
Hot Chip tried to put that hot Chip between them
to ease the awkwardness.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Of not seen this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Oh Okay, there you go. H could you tell me
something on this UFC London undercard that I probably didn't
watch that you enjoyed or want to talk about with
the people.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
The prelim card was. I don't think everyone's favorite, if
I can just be honest, right, I don't think everyone
loved it per se. I will say this best fight
on the prelim card probably gonna be the Cavanaugh dos
Santo's fight, or or you could go another direction. You
could go, yeah, now you could probably yeah, you can
go that direction. I have to say Jordan Vusenek, who

(01:11:14):
I do think is a good fighter, he also had
an insanely bad decision in that fight with Chris Duncan.
He also shoots for a takedown eighty million miles away, right,
eighty million miles away. It gets stuffed, all right, But
then they separate eventually and he has another shot, and

(01:11:34):
then he runs him back into the fence while he's
doing well on the feet and clearly is much smoother
on the feet than Duncan, and then still elected to
run him back into the fence. I found that absolutely baffling.
He is much much much better than that. I think
he's gonna want that one back big time long.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Alan, Look, I know you, I know you love something
that happened on that undercard.

Speaker 6 (01:11:57):
I know it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
It was on the main card, but the main card
opener Nathaniel Wood Morgan Sharry Air.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
That was a great fight.

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
Nathaniel would look damn good on the feet he dropped
Scherry Air one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
I've been won at featherweight, right.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
Yeah, that was a good fight worth going back to watch,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
No one delivers like Luke, no Sita. Let's go to
topic number four, and what a delivery from Rod Tang.
It was One Championship one seventy two, a Sunday pay
per view. Unfortunately, though, there was so much demand on
the website that it crashed and One had to give
the pay per view away for free, which it still
is on their YouTube channel right now. It was Rod
Tang versus Takieru and as uh Oh Timothy Wheaton last

(01:12:32):
week shot out on them, k by the way, our
great performance to set the stage, dude. He made that
feel like we're gonna watch Hogan versus Andre Russelmannia three right,
Like I was ready for that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
I don't think he was lying to us. It just
didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
This is great, So Luke, let's talk about it first round.
K oh wow. Despite the website issues, as we mentioned,
UH one one seventy two successively captured a good like
chunk of the combat sports attention from the weekend, and
maybe rightfully so, how impressive in your eyes was the
eighty second finish KO round one? Rod tang over to Caro.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
I gotta say one thing, man, I went back and
I watched this. I missed it live, so I had
to go back and look and I rewatched it again. Man,
is it?

Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
Me?

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Tell me if I'm wrong. By the way, Long Island,
did you watch one?

Speaker 6 (01:13:16):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
I was not up at three am on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Dude. They made it look big. They made it. We
always talk about that here, like what the promotions can do.
You know, obviously we know the UFC can do that,
but like can the other ones? They they did by
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
My super arena, you know you're getting a crowd.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
I don't. Yeah, I don't think they sold out necessarily,
but they had a pretty good attendance and the lighting
and the stage and then the ramp, Like, dude, one
did a really good job with that. I have to
give credit where credit is due. I thought that they
made they made it count when it was supposed to count. However,
it just ended in eighty seconds basically off. I'm not

(01:13:54):
even joking two left hooks, a brutal one. But yes,
so I have to say I do think that rod
Tang like this win will propel him in ways that
you know, the Edgar Tabaries fight is not gonna do
much for him and it didn't mean much, but this
one will. But if I can just be honest, and again,
we are not kickboxing experts by any stretch of the imagination,
but the kickboxing experts warned us heading into this contest

(01:14:17):
that to Caeru was kind of considering retirement at different stages,
especially after the Superleg fighter. You know, with his leg
all messed up, and this is a guy who just
is a head down brawler and it kind of caught
up with him. It looks to me like his ability
to resist a shot has been significantly diminished now Ratan
landed to excellent shots on him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Rod Ting said coming in that he didn't believe Takara's
leg had healed from the Superlex fight, and that he
did attack it early and when after.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Yes, no doubt about it. He went after it too,
But it just seemed to me like, if you've built
a style on just hard gym wars, hard sparring, brawling out,
you can do that for a while. But I think
Takaro's thirty three, almost thirty four years of age. He
looks based on everything I'm trying to understand what the
expert say, it looks to me like that bill has

(01:15:02):
come due. Yeah, the bill has come due, and he
simply doesn't have the resistance anymore to be in fights
like that against Rottang, who, by the way, rod Tang
has been in what like three hundred plus some absurd
number of fights. They call him the iron Man. They're
not all built like rod Tek.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
There is a difference, though. Rod Tang, who missed waited
a bunch lately and was kind of starting to be
criticized as he making too much money living, you know,
living eye off that and not focused. He would say
afterwards that the recent weight miss has turned out to
be a huge wake up call. He hired a full
time nutritionist for the first time, and that's why you
saw him coming so ripped. Now we didn't get to
see that. Guest take on full display. But it shows
you that this was a refined version to some degree.

(01:15:40):
And then maybe to your point.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
To Carou hang On one has been trying to turn
this guy into a big star, and they think they've
done a pretty good job. But to the point you
raised the weight, misses. He did lose to Superlek in
September of twenty twenty three, did Rod ting right, Rod
teg Yes, Yes, And of course he lost to Demetrius
Johnson and in that weird fight. All the way back
in twenty twenty two, he's had some They didn't exactly
know what to do with him at times, and even
when they did, he didn't necessarily showed up. This time

(01:16:04):
he did do all of those things. This time he
crossed all the t's and dotted all the eyes and
then two left hooks, just just dispatched with Takaru.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Well, let's see the bushido and the prost fight press
conference afterwards, as Takaru and Rod Tank got together and
embraced and you love to see that. Unfortunately, Takiu, we
don't have the video, but he walked out of the
arena after the loss with like head down in shame,
which you understand. The honor and the pride that comes
with that area of the world and the sporting culture.

(01:16:33):
Let's now hear from Chatri Sid Yongtong, the CEO of
one of what could be next here for Rod Tank
see next for him? Actually, the next fight for Rut
Tank is going to be Haggardy. We're doing Hagardy versus
Roud Tank next one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
But of course Tank has many fights for him. Now
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
You can call his shots. Now you'll find anybody like
will fight anybody. It was Takiu afterwards said, who told
Chhatri he wants an immediate rematch with rod Tang. I
don't know if he's gonna get that Jonathan Haggerty that
you mentioned. It would be a trilogy. Rod Tang has
a knockout and a decision win. But Rod Ting got
stripped of his Muay Thai belt because he missed weight,
So this would be an opportunity if they put the

(01:17:18):
title on.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
The Lasso has had some difficulties more recently, so I
don't know if I mean, I guess they're gonna do it,
but you know what's what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Well, the crowd went nuts for rod Tang and watched
this bit afterwards, he hadn't taken his gloves off yet,
he was asked for an autograph. Is this normal? I've
never seen this in combat sports. So he just did
the I'll sign it with my mouth bit. You know,
whatever works, whatever works, right. Also after the fight, rod
Ting was back in his hotel room playing FIFA. Watch

(01:17:46):
this celebration from a big victory. Yeah, that's a I
like to look.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
How can I incorporate that into into MK? You think
I got to stand up and do that more often?

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Right, I'm just gonna point out soccer we see you
should learn to watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Well, I mean I have, you know, I mean I
danced on my couch when Landon Donovan scored that goal
in like twenty times Algeria. Yes, it was a big
moment in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
As you watched the US men not yesterday that you know,
look at me, they're dog shit.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Well that's prob dog Why uh, let's hit anything else
on that. We had super Luke by the way, missing
weight and then he would drop a three round decision
to now beil Anana. And it's not normal that super
like loses. Dude, that guy's brose and is ridiculous. He
beat both to Cairo and Roday.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
He also failed the way in protocol between hydration, Yes,
and it was an issue for him. Dude again, I'm
gonna probably mispronounce her name. I did go back and
watch to see how it was pronounced it, but you
heard a few different ways on the broadcast. But Masaaki
NOII defeating Taiwan Chai, Taiwan Chai, I looked this up.
I have it here in front of me, according to
some of the betting odds and of various places. I
won't say exactly where, but you had NORII closing at

(01:18:55):
plus six hundred in certain places, with Taiwan Chai at
minus nine hundred in a bunch of different spots. This
was a gigantic upset. Hit him hard, left hook to
the body, then came over the top, dropped him again,
left hooks doing all of the work here between the
main and the comain. But just to see a guy
who got match made hard, apparently early in his one run,

(01:19:17):
kind of began to turn things around. Had a rough
start in this fight, to which I looked real good
in the first round, but he kind of slowly stuck
with it and then bodied him in that third round.
Huge And you know, obviously for the Japanese it sucked
that to Caeru lost, but to have no Earie win
in the Comaine was a huge deal for them. So
at least the Japanese market got to get their back
scratched a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Yeah, is there anyone one does get creative? They're not
afraid to put their champions against each other multiple times,
They're not afraid to put Rod Teng in the DJ
crossover match. Is there an MMA fighter personality that would
work in another hybrid match with Rod Teng that one
would have access to and also would be the kind
of thing where we'd be like, oh shit, that's like
mythical matchmaking. Like is there like a close to retired

(01:19:58):
small like somebody like Patricia somebody like that?

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
You could have done something with him, But obviously that's
that door is now closed because.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
That would have been gnarly if they did a mixed
rules match with those guys.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know how that. I
don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Well, that's one one seventy two. It seems like a
win overalls.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Adreana Moriich losing in the first round to Lakamatsu.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
In the rematch, and this was for the vacantile.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Yeah. I couldn't believe that. I was very surprised by that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
I'm not long of Terminator too. Didn't he take over
Ioki in that one?

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Wait? So Auk fought follying Yeah from the Filipino guy. Yes,
and then went on a tweet spree shitting on chatrian one.
Did you see that?

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Yeah, in Japanese, but he did it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:38):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
I don't quite know what that's all about.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
But yeah, all right, let's go to topic number five,
and it was a death in the combat sports world
over the extended weekend. And this one hit big because
we're talking about Big George Foreman, who wasn't just an
Olympic gold medalist, two time heavyweight champion, and maybe the
author of the greatest comeback in sports history when he
won the heavyweight championship at the age of forty five

(01:21:00):
in nineteen ninety four to set a new record when
you factor in the grill selling the fact that people
forget he had a sitcom on ABC in nineteen ninety
three called George. We're talking about a household name over
multiple generations, somebody that truly crossed over, and at age
seventy six we said goodbye. No cause of death from
his family as far as what I can see, but

(01:21:21):
I think he was ill for a bit of late.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
His family did comment, Oh, would they say, I didn't
see that in mission. I'll pull it up, give me
a minute to here to find it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
But Luke, so much you can say about this man's legacy,
so much more than the typical death and combat sports.
So from winning the gold medal to earning reportedly upwards
of two hundred million over three decades for putting his
name on the George Forman grill, which sold one hundred
million units, by the way, to many things that go

(01:21:49):
beyond the boxing ring. How will you best remember Big George.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Form If I may, I would like to read this
statement from his his family announcing this. Here's what they write.
This is from the family of Joe Foreman. Quote. Our
hearts are broken with profound sorrow. We announced the passing
of our beloved George Edward Forman senior, who peacefully departed
on that day surrounded by loved ones. A devout preacher,
a devoted husband, a loving father, and a proud grand
and great grandfather. He lived a life marked by unwavering faith, humility,

(01:22:15):
and purpose. A humanitarian and Olympian, two time heavyweight champion
of the World, he was deeply respected, a force for good,
a man of discipline, conviction, and a protector of his legacy,
fighting tirelessly to preserve his good name. For his family,
we are grateful for the outpouring of love and prayers,
and kindly ask for privacy as we honor the extraordinary
life of a man we were blessed to call our own.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Yeah, so no cause of death. I don't know, not
that it would matter, but necessarily, but a nice message
from the family lider. Sure this hit a lot of
people really hard, rightfully, So what's your George Foreman experience?
How will you remember?

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
I mean, we grew up as children of the nineties
and it was such a big deal that he Okay,
so if you grew up at the age that me
and BC did, where you miss of course everything he
did in the seventies live It takes time to go
back and watch.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
The legend you grew up with that as legend, But then.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
You know, I mean, I like Chuck Minnenhall made a
point like he beat Michael Moore in what ninety four?
By ninety six the Olympics were taking place in Atlanta,
and that's when Ali. I'm not trying to make fun
of him in any way, but he didn't have a
steady hand from Parkinson's as he was trying to light
the Olympic torch. Just just about a year and plus
before that, Foreman won the heavyweight title of the world.

(01:23:27):
And they were the same era, and they were the
same era. There's a quote, it's it's often misunderstood from
acclaimed American author f. Scott Fitzgerald that there are no
second acts in American life. But it really is not
in the way he meant it in a different way,
but in the way that it's misunderstood. People seem to
think that, like, oh, whether there's no way to get reinvention,

(01:23:49):
But of course we know that's not true. People reinvent
themselves all the time. And there is nobody almost in
sports who has done something like that to the degree
that George Foreman did, where you are just one of
these dominant figures beating Joe Fraser. That's the famous fight
where you hear the down, goes fraserunds two rounds, and
then he became a terrifying force. And then of course

(01:24:11):
Ali beats him in one of the most important boxing
matches ever. But then they forge a relationship and it
changes him over time. He walks away from the sport,
comes back ten years later in his late thirties, and
then at age forty five, he won the heavyweight title
of the world. Guys, I would like to give you
some sense of proportion. I am forty five. My back

(01:24:34):
hurts if I sleep on my side at night. And
he won a world title at this age.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
I was after taking off ten years to be a preacher,
retiring at the twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
In one of his fights, he had said he'd heard
the voice of God that called him to do this.
He lost that contest.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
So was Jimmy Young, Jimmy seven, Puerto Rico. He was
hallucinating backstage, he was dehydrated, and he had this moment
of clarity of where he became a born again Christian
and just gave up the sport with it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
And then he again, he was on for such a
long time, comes back and does the improbable. And by
the way, when he came back on his comeback toward
in the late thirties. He didn't win all those bouts
nineties or late eighties. What I'm trying to say is
and THENBC and then when we were in college, everybody
and their brother had the Foreman grill, and he became
insanely wealthy from this. People don't forget remember this. His

(01:25:21):
children also gained a degree of popularity, in part because
all of his kids, including the girls, are named George.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Boys. I don't think all the girls.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
The girls have George or Georgina or some some some
derivation of Georgiett have it in the name.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
And that's because his mom had lied to him his
whole youth, toling him a different guy was his father
that she had married after his birth, but never revealing
the identity of his real father, who they knew and
was a member of their community. So he felt so
betrayed that he never wanted his kids to not be
known who they're linked to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
I just I'm just saying, be see, it's it's remarkable
when someone can achieve. It's remarkable when they can achieve
at different stages, but when and it can achieve in
so many different eras in so many different ways, and
it's a different thing that powered George to be a
heavyweight champion in the seventies versus why he became a
champion in the nineties. He couldn't have done it trying

(01:26:14):
to be the old guy now sorry, the older version
of himself. I'm sorry. He had to be who he
was at that time and then after that to have
pop culture cachet. It's a remarkable life that won't soon
be replied.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
No, I mean, and the key part. I wrote a
column A lot of people read it on CBS Sports
where it's not just how unique his career is that
he has two Hall of Fame careers and one or
the fact of just the comeback alone, right, I mean,
that was the thirtieth fight of his comeback. When Michael
Moore had picked him. People had left. He was coming
off that kind of disputed loss to Tommy Morrison. Remember
he had lost to Vander Holyfield, although he fought well
for the title, and Moore had just beaten And Moore

(01:26:49):
beats Holyfield, who we thought was done, and Moore is
piecing up George for every second of nine and a
half rounds until he lends back to back one two combinations,
and by the way, people forget the one before the
knockout put More out on his feet, and we didn't
realize it to the degree that like when this knockout
happened at George at forty five, I swear Luke for
two days, we thought the fix was in. We thought

(01:27:10):
the fix was in. And we have this graphic here
of this great George Foreman quote about that, and this
is obviously the crowning moment of his career in nineteen
ninety four, where George said, sure the fight was fixed.
I fixed it with my right hand. And if you,
you know, you slow down the tape, you can see
how short and perfect the big jab which put More
right in front of him, and then that beautiful right hand,

(01:27:31):
and that's, you know, the biggest win, the biggest moment
of his career. But he was also in the Rumble
of the Jungle, arguably the most popular and most famous
fight of all time, and it was an epic self
implosion and it led into even though he had the
war with ron Lyley knocked out Fraser in the rematch,
it led into that Jimmy Young fight in his life transformation.
So I think the cool, the real crux of George
Foreman's impact on society beyond boxing was that transformation. He

(01:27:55):
was a sparring partner for Sonny Listen when he turned
pro in the sixties, and he adopt did that bully
menacing mindset. George Foreman dropped out of school in junior
high in the segregated South, like came from poverty, got
in trouble as a kid, becomes this killer in the ring,
and he's got that mentality and he's got a hard heart.
And going through that process of becoming a preacher, a

(01:28:17):
born again Christian and then only getting back into boxing
because they couldn't afford a new youth center, and he
was praying and basically like, I guess the only way
we can do this if I go back and fight.
They didn't take him seriously as in the comeback for
a long time. There were a lot of fights. He
had thirty fights right to get to the moror fight
and he delivers that moment. That alone is awesome. But

(01:28:37):
what do we consider the two greatest eras in heavyweight history?

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
That don't compare with nine.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Seventies and nineties. He's the only guy who was in
both and was on top in both and the fact
that he put on the same pair of trunks that
he imploded in Zayere against Ali, gassed out, frustrated, gets
stopped in the eighth round down, you know, just an
incredible maybe one of the biggest upsets in the history
of the sport because people thought Ali was done at

(01:29:03):
that point and he puts those trunks back on twenty
years later and beats more with those trunks in a
fight that he was losing every second of a for
nine and a half round. I mean, it's just such
a remarkable heart transformation, life transformation for him to have
authored those two careers within one and everything he went through,
and that's not even counting the grill and the fame.

(01:29:25):
I really think that he leaned into that message when
he was in his forties fighting of age is not
a number. You can do anything you want. He literally
became this inspirational figure to like everyone. He looked like
your grandpa, telling jokes right like, and yet he's coming
in there with those trays of cheeseburgers at the press
conferences and his game was I mean, he always was
not a even though he's a Olympic gold medalist, he

(01:29:47):
always was not a traditional boxer. He always threw these crazy, hard,
almost arm punches, but he took on Ken Norton's style
in his comeback where he had that you know, that
shell guard that was awkward and he became like, it's
unfortunate the Mike Tyson fight didn't happen. In the nineties,
there was an HBO card where they put both in
the co Maine and Maine, and they both won, and

(01:30:08):
they were going to match him together. But he fought
as many people as he can get in the ring
with him and who he reinvented himself with in the
nineties in that era of killers and became the lineal heavy,
which it's mind blowing, it's it's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Yeah, it's your life has seasons. As you get all
it's hard to appreciate this if you're in your twenties,
but your life has seasons, and a lot of times
like seasons happen in a way where it's a repudiation
of the last one or it's a withering of it.
And sometimes the most successful people are the ones who
don't fight it. They kind of ride it out to

(01:30:41):
what it is and then decide it's gonna you know,
let the seasons take them where they're supposed to go,
almost as.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
It's our careers.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
Luke to a degree, to a degree, but I just
mean he did it to the to the highest level possible.
Everything about him was improbable, Everything about his success seemed impossible,
and yet all of it was real.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Got that twenty twenty three biography movie that that was
a Hollywood script, that was his life. It fit perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Also, if I may, if you've never seen it when
we were Kings? Yes, or we were kings? Excuse me,
I forget the exact title. I rewatched it maybe a
few months ago. It's the documentary that they made in
the lead up to Ali and Foreman Fighting and Rumble
in the Jungle. It is a spectacular work of.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
One in an oscar. Yeah, let's watch quickly. This was
George two years ago at the age of seventy four
when he hit the heavy back. I think we played
this on. Have you seen this shit after it happened?

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
But Big George still got it. We still got that
power day paw.

Speaker 7 (01:31:40):
It doesn't age. Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Let me show what you got?

Speaker 6 (01:31:43):
Jack?

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
What's it?

Speaker 6 (01:31:48):
Let's go?

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Yeah, seventy dude, Big George was a terrifying puncture.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Well, stud it, can you show that graphic of everyone
that he ultimately faced. Look at this, like, who's who
over a thirty year period, Ali Joe Fraser twice, Vander Holyfield,
Ken Norton, who he knocked out in two rounds, ron
Lyle one of the greatest action fights of all time,
and then in his comeback he beats Burt Cooper, Dwight Muhamma, Kawei,
Jerry Cooney, Shavallo, Michael Moore, Tommy Morris, and Shannon Briggs.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
Yeah, Jerry Cooney told me about that fight. He was
unequivocal that he had never been hit by anybody, and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
He hit him with that walking up the cut that
sneaky when the car.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
He told me that four men hit him in a
way where he They're like, there's not even a close second. Yeah,
we could even think of that hit him as hard.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
He'll face first on the finish. And by the way
that people were clowning, that fight wouldn't happened because they
were like forty and thirty nine. It was called two
geezers at Caesars, so we're calling it back then, dude,
Jerry Cooney is a big duce seven.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Yeah, yeah, like he would always come in and we
were in serious XM. He would do the show after me,
by the way, nicest guy in the world, absolutely, and
I remember asking like, what was that like and he
was just like, I don't even really remember much, like
it just was. It's a black in my memory.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
For the most Jerry Cooney is the sweetest man.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
You would never know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
He was a you know, nearly won the heavyweight championship.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
He was terrifying too. And then for Big George just
sit him down like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
Oh god. Hey, by the way, did you see that
Dylan Danis and KSI fight with yea, yeah, yeah, and
nothing of value was lost? Can you believe how fucking
sad that shit is? Anyway, Hey, let's hear from our
first listener.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Let's do it. This is from at Eric Bolden. The
difference between the twenty twenty two and twenty twenty five
atmosphere at the O two in London is huge. Do
you think it is because of a lack of exciting
British superstars on the card. They're talking, of course about
Saturday's UFC London fight night card, or that the fight results,
or has the bubble began to burst the market. So look,

(01:36:31):
we talk about this, it's everything at once, but they're
specifically jacked up those ticket prices. The public seemed to say,
we're not gonna pay this if the biggest names aren't
on there. And although this fight had two very important
fights for their particular divisions atop it, and I'm fine
with that. I was fine with the undercard. It wasn't
bad like bad is in this era. I also get

(01:36:54):
why things went down the way they did in London.
Everybody wasn't happy. Even Adam Catterrell, of the Journalist, who
is always like pro UFC. He even tweeted out that
that was the most lifeless atmosphere he's been a part
of there. That stuff does matter if you're going to
jack the prices, but you're not giving Patty, you're not
giving you know, whomever r there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
And also they just didn't have you know, Tom Asmitall
wasn't fighting Patty. To your point, Patty wasn't fighting big
names weren't fighting I mean not. You know, Brady did
really well, but I think he's just at the beginning
of having big fights and so it takes time to
become a really known attraction. You know, people say, is
the bubble bursting. I don't think the bubble's bursting until
people are just stop buying tickets. Nothing's bursting, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
But there's some there's some smoke.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
People are expressing discontent. Fine, but I keep making this
point to people, like, nothing that you say in terms
of like, I don't like this means anything to any monopoly.
The only thing that means anything to them is your
abandonment of the business.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
They don't look in the crowd and see the gaps
and that there were like before the main event.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
I think if they pitch another tent in London and
it makes a good gaate, I don't don't think they care. Yeah,
that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
I like pitching the tent ones Well, you know what
I mean. It's you know what I mean, shit, I
also would like that. Lou kay. Let's go to our
second question from at spot three sixteen, where do you
ring Sean Brady against the best grapplers. I think he
became Dagistani after this performance.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
It's but it's a little bit more like American jiu
jitsu based, you know, it's it's got a lot of it. Dude.
He hit a Socaian round one, he hit two doubles.
He hit the one kind of Uh, it's not called
a crackdown, but it's where you get behind and you
break the back of the knees to then pull them
and then use his own hook. So, I mean, he's
got so many different entries his Again, his top top
half is phenomenal. Obviously, I think Islam his MMA grappling

(01:38:42):
is probably the best in the in the overall, it
is probably best in MMA, But dude, Brady's got to
be top five for all overall all grappling. Again, I said,
his top half to me is like either maybe the
best or right at it. But overall skill, who would be?
Who else would you put in there? You did? Blaw
you put in there? Takedowns doesn't so sorry Arman Serukian say,

(01:39:09):
Hams out for sure, homs out for sure. Sorry, you
can again it has control problems.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
The most impressive top half in women's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
M Luke Kayla, which you can get it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
Oh you're talking about wrestling sou Suarez, but but it
was you know, not effective in that title fight.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
Uh Suarez as well and when she won. Well, you
know there was a time. Anyway, Chef Chenk go to
a degree, you can use it. But again there's nobody.
And then again Dern has obviously phenomenal jiu jitsu, but
like really terrible takedowns.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
Yes, so what are we forgetting on the men's side,
that's just an absolute wrestling machine.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
We've lost a bunch of really interesting ones over time.
We lost jackaraies, like guys who are world champion grapplers.
We lost some Bristover Dooms and Frank Meres and Josh
Barnett's and stuff like that. Islam is pretty Islam is
up there. Habib would have been, but you know, obviously
he's not there anymore. Islam is probably again your overall
best grappler, your overall game is probably number one. But
Brady is fucking up there.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
I thought Umar was up there, but then Morob was like, yo.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
Hold this Morob as I hold that l Yeah, all.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
Right, let's hear from the next fan at flannels and JITs.
You know this guy walks around. You know, he's probably
laying down in pajama pants all day long like I do,
working from home. Mm hmm, But I don't think, who
do you think Showers lest this guy? All right? Do
you watch uh, did you watch the NCAA Wrestling Championship.
Where does Wyatt Hendrickson upsetting Gable Steveson for the heavyweight

(01:40:34):
NCAA title there rank among the greatest upsets in NCAA history.
It's not quite Larry Owing versus Dan Gable, but it's
not nothing, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
I don't know, Yeah, I mean that was that's historically
one of the biggest ones. Dan Gable wasn't supposed to
lose that ever, and he did.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Also Bubba Jenkins winning his senior year after leaving Penn
State and going Arizona State and then beating the guy
I forget who he beat for Penn State in the
in the finals to win the national title. Well, that
was big. They're saying this one is the biggest. I
don't know enough about NCAA wrestling to know like the
history of matchups and like the odds and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
What do you make of the conspiracy theories coming out
that Gable lost on purpose just to push over Donald
Trump and wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
I don't understand how that what's the relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
I tried to understand it too. I didn't fully get it,
but almost like to create a moment that the world
would come.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
Look at, just sacrificed himself on the altar of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
I don't know if but he is getting ripped because
of the fact that Gable went to WW and failed,
went to the NFL and failed, and then came back
to college despite having been an Olympic medalist in a
multi time.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Yeah, he hid one three national title and the guy that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Upset him he had beat soundly. I mean, it happens,
It happened to Dan Gable, it happens. It was a
big moment, dude. The call was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Dude. Can I just say this. I know people get
bitter at Daniel Cormier for his UFC commentary, He's I'm
just gonna say it. I think he likes wrestling a
lot more than he likes MMA, and I don't think
that's crazy to say.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
I think I think Dana likes boxing and slapping a
lot more than mixed mushal life. Right now, that's true,
Like you could see.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
It in the belt. I agree, I agree. I think
it's crazy. Anyway, this one is if not number one,
it's it's it's up there is it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Okay for the play by play announcer to scream, like
matter of fact that this is the biggest upset. It
reminded me of when Gus Johnson said that Seph Petrozzelli
jabbing Kimbo slice was the biggest upset in history, and
it was a big one. I'll say things in the moment,
they'll say, I love you after one night of second that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
Wasn't the thing they really remember from from that. People
remember about Gus Johnson's MMA calls. It was when he
was watching the Nashville Brawl and goes, these things happened
right by the.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
Way, gentlemen, we're on live television. Also, what do you
make of the controversy of the Gable match going last?
But then that meant that the first match of the
entire show was that Penn State Kid driven to go
under five titles five times because of the COVID year
that they I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
It's always a debate about which which ones you want
to put in which place, And they're trying to like,
this is not the first time they've done this.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
Why can't they just put them in order of the
best best storylines in what matters?

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
I don't know. I don't understand why they can't. They
can't you have to kind of reach art. On the
same line, they did the same thing when Kyle Dake.
So Kyle Dike won four national titles, and he did
in four different weight classes. He went up each year.
His senior year, they moved his match to the finals.
It might have been against David Taylor. I'm not even sure,
but they moved that one to the finals. So they've
done it before and it clearly worked out. There was

(01:43:18):
some debate about that, about whether or not the kid
from Penn State, Carter I forget to pronounce his last name,
whether him going for five should have mattered, But I
don't know. It seemed like it worked out to me. ESPN,
by the way, the wrestling community not too pleased with
the ESPN Plus service. I mean imagine that this would
be somehow, you know, something that they didn't love. But anyway,
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
But it seemed like it was a really big night
for Where was it. Do you know where the venue was?

Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
It's usually in the Midwest somewhere. I don't actually know
where it was.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
I mean, Trump was Matt side like this was a
big deal that wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
That surprising to me? The fact that Elon was there.
I was like, don't you have shit to do? Stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Things are running efficiently right now. It looks so he
had time on his hands.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
I've got people to fire.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Yeah, there we go. Do we have more questions from
these great people at j d anal Foe four twenty Wow? Yeah,
that guy impressed by Sebastian Fondora's KO of Cordel Booker
on Saturday in the PBC car.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
I gotta tell you, b C. I'm sure you did
a great job. I did not see many highlights of
this on my timeline.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
It was an efficient show though, three fights in two
hours and fifteen minutes in and out, on and off,
and although they did they did screw Terrell Gochet of
a decision went over ymas Elijah Garcia. He did miss
way by two tents of a pound. But the main
event Sebastian f Mondora ultimately put it on Cordell Booker,
who's a small south Paul tried to box him early.
I'll give fundor credit once he once he made some

(01:44:36):
adjustments in landa some big power shots. He got him
out of there. Top ranks Xander Zaiaz was there. They
did they tried to do a face off, but the
Powers that b wouldn't let them. But Xander's Xander Zaiez
is the number one contender now the mandatory contender for Fundora.
So his promoter, meaning Fundora's promoter, Sampson Lukewitz, did say

(01:44:56):
after the fight that they're they have a good relationship
with top rank. They think that could be the next fight.
Do that'd be a.

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
Great Yeah, I'd like to see that the you know,
that'd be a great one.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
But like we said in the preview, you could put
Fundora against and against anyone at one fifty four and
it's gonna be great. I want to get him eventually
into a Virgil Ortiz fight if he's still champion. I
want him to fight Zoo again, Thurman, Charlow.

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
On and on.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
I mean, this division's great and fun. But did you
see the highlights? Did you see the fight?

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
All?

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Or is the Fundora's performance?

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
I saw the finish.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
Okay, yeah, you put it together. You put him on him,
you put him on there. Hey, Zeus Ramos one of
the cole men. That could be an interesting opponent.

Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
I've never seen a praying mantis integrate this well into
human society and then perform ably. But but Sebastian Fandora
has done it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
Yeah, yeah, almost one year off. Shout out to that
on the PBC brought to you by by BC on
the call, thank you. We got any other questions from
these fine people from Kevin Underscore Mitchell Underscore seventy nine.
With the insurgency of new talent making its way into
the through the UFC, what are your top five camps
right now in MMA? And what makes each of those
camps special in what they offer to the fighters? Luke,

(01:45:58):
who's the current super team of the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
At t ATT is probably up there. Fight Fighting Nerds
is up there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
Okay, what if we go ATT one fighting Nerds two?
Does that put c KB at three?

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
C KB is up there? What do you got Long Island?

Speaker 6 (01:46:10):
Luke?

Speaker 5 (01:46:10):
Kill Cliff over c KB?

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
Kill Cliff probably is a fair call over c KB.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
Are we disrespecting Ray? Ray Longo here?

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
Yeah? Longo? Mm A yetis Fortis these are Fortists is
very good, but I think they've got more guys who
are like sub top five.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
AKA needs to like rejuvenate.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
They still are operating. I just don't think it's you know,
they don't have like do.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
We consider Anklive an AKA fighter? I'm not Live.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
Sorry, it's not much of to a degree. To a degree, yeah,
I don't think it's you know, it's not his primary place.

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
But they wanted to know what these the question asker
wanted to know what these teams are specifically.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Kind of different, Like some guys, like you know, the
Fighting Nerds have this incredible creativity att just comprehensively good
coaching and facilities, saying with kill Cliff, shout out to
King Mo Ray Longo, I think has a special eye
for talent, talent development, you know. So it's it's the
in between where you can get a lot of good
work in there. But it's not a crazy ass super team,
you know, it's all like what is the right fit

(01:47:07):
for you kind of situation.

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
It's a boutique coach like Trevor Whitman who can take
you to the top another one.

Speaker 5 (01:47:13):
Yeah, Vegasyndic, Oh my god, dude, extreme couture.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
That could be a top three Would they be in
the top three?

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Probably, so, dude. I mean again, like I was actually
talking to I was texting him over the weekend because
I was researching a guy I was wondering if it
was one of his, and it wasn't. I won't say
who it is, but the guy was like he was
at he was at Extreme Couture for a year and
then went to another gym and he was like, Hey,
he's a good guy, but I didn't even work with him. Like,
there are just so many incredible fighters coming and going.

(01:47:41):
Some work with this coach, some work with that. It
really is just what you're looking for, what teammates speak
to you, what your needs are. But I think fighting nerds,
to me, just have this kind of like striking creativity
and savagery. Savagery enjoy very special and unique.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
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(01:48:44):
during the heavy intro? I think you burped with your ahole.

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Listen, let me explain something to you. I will claim
the bombs that I dropped. What I'm saying I burped?
I really did? There you go? I mean, now that
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And this room just fills with this disgusting let's call it.

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Tory is about to find out what I ate for
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Can't you smell what the Luke was cooking?

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There?

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Big weekend for Tom Aspinall to kick it off. Not
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UFC London Cars was so fucking up a duck aimed
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Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
I just want to point out, just lead us picture up.
Is this the most British group of males you've ever
seen in your life?

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
It looked like Bobby the brain Heenan on top left
above him.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
But you know what the guy was, Okay, you see
where it says at Jedi Goodman that ever left one.
The guy next to it looks like some version of
Pauli Melanaji. Yeah behind us, but every other guy looks
like the most British man alive. I just want to
point that out.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
That kind of looks Bronzetatter a young Bronzetter on the right.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
Right, like, yeah, but only after he's been in like
someone's political science department as a TA for the last
couple of years.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
He told us he was a high school athlete. You
still don't believe him, though, I believe that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
The question is like, did you go to high school
with the kind of people I went to high school with?

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
Because if you did, you want to maybe Also, Aspinall
posted this pick with Hunter Campbell of UFC and mister
Aspinall with the with the quote stay tuned.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
I'm tired of these non updates.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
All right, Well it's getting update from the boss himself.
Here's Dana White before UFC.

Speaker 6 (01:50:15):
London talking point in British Pikes Martial Arts and I
suppose World Martial Arts right now is what's going on
in the heavyweight division because there's British interest with Tom aspinall.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
Come on, man, yeah, that's give it, give us a
little bit of something. Can the fans get excited about
the super fight.

Speaker 8 (01:50:30):
I'll tell you what I've been telling you since day one.
The fight's gonna happen. The fight's gonna happen. It's just
a matter of when now and getting it signed and
done and the fight will happen.

Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
Do you have a cutoff point in your mind of
when to get that? No, it's gonna happen.

Speaker 8 (01:50:46):
It's it's it's it's it's done.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
But it's not done.

Speaker 8 (01:50:51):
Uh, not done enough to sit right here now and
announce it and and give you a date. But the
fight's gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Happen with that that, if I could just poke a
little bit, is it more on logistics rather than they
would go on and just continue to walk around it
without stepping on it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
What does that actually mean nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
Does that mean we got the money and now we
just need the location. Does that mean they both want
it but we haven't hit the number yet, Because that's
a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
If you haven't hit the number, it doesn't mean anything.
I don't know what the hold up is. But like
all these things like stay tuned, big news coming.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
So I'm saying it's done, but it's not done. That
doesn't give you optimistic hope like it did a lot
of people in the internet.

Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
I know it doesn't. It doesn't change anything. I've been
kind of at a point emotionally. Yeah, fifty to fifty
Did that change anything about fifty to fifty? Not not real?

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
Don't talk to me about the birthing pain. Show me
the head.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
That's it. That's it. I mean I again, I'm not
saying in any way it won't happen. I absolutely hope
it's the most important fight they can make. But let
me know when there's a real update. All this other
cryptic shit I don't care about.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
Well, look, UFC London proved to be a big week
for what I love, the most real reckons in reel.
Let's go backstage in the locker room before the main event.
You'll want a champion showing some Polish love to her.

Speaker 1 (01:52:06):
Compatriot non national pride here for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
I love that friendship, don't you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
I'm sure it's good for each of them, and for
that I'm happy for.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
Okay, Well, you know Mike Owen's media. We love that guy.
He had a huge week. In fact, he was in
a hotel room with jab Look at this guy sitting
down for an interview and uh he looked like he
did well. So shout out to our boy from Liverpool
there and you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
Know I went out. He got an interview with her
before I did. That's about that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
That's true. That's true because you don't want it, Luke.
All right. Also, Patty Pimblet gave us this fist pump moment.
What do you make of this?

Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
Is this?

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
Like should they keep k Fabe alive? Here's the UFC
way in to iliat right, Eliot Torporia is back there.
I mean, they could have been talking ish, but they
they show. I mean, what do I want? Do I
want them to fist fight exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
It's like what are they supposed to do? Right there?

Speaker 10 (01:52:50):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
There was also a real, recognizing, real bonus at the
airport when Dia goes sand Chez and Bryce Mitchell put
their heads together.

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
I hope they they I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
I hope they find Bjane help.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
I'm not gonna talk bad, you know, just whatever, all right, Luke,
But who in the UFC was the realist this week.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
You asked me off gamera. Yeah, Gillian Robertson was, oh,
hell yeah. So she's ripping a bong while in what
do you call that the sauna?

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
Yeah, it's just a it's like a portable sauna.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Well look, is she your favorite fighter?

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
No, yeah, I brought.

Speaker 5 (01:53:27):
I saw this on social last week.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
I said, you better have it in. You should fire
Gaff and do the main Card minute with her. He
can just join us both, you know what. You could
fire Gaff and break up with your girl and then
Gillian Robertson can be both the Main Card Minute co
host and your girl.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
That's that's not that's not right to say. It's on
called for? You know what's on called for? To a
female Scottish NHL fan, I'm really sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
I came all the way from Scotland. I thought the
Leaks were going to win two games they lost. It
must have been a fight that the guys were so overwhelmed.
This my massive fucking chet lost concentration.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
I am sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
He let me sit on the bench.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
That's why the loss today.

Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
They were overcome by Scottish pheromones.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
They didn't know what they were doing bastard.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I bet
she's fun to party with. Okay, yeah, I bet she's
fun to party with.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
Luke. Have you ever seen race relations solved through dancing?

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
Not exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
Watch this, young gentleman.

Speaker 1 (01:54:31):
This is this is this cracker about the style.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
This is a great home right here by right?

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
That's good, all right, all right, all right, all right,
all right, let's let.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
The oh shh shit. This is like the movie foot
LUs all over again.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
This is great.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
Wow. We also have video of him when he by
the way, tho.

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
I just want to point out it is typically in
these exchanges it is not the white guy winning. This
is a noteworthy difference.

Speaker 2 (01:55:02):
But if the white guy doesn't go unchecked, he'll end
up like this man in this video. Watch this, all right, dad,
can we put this away? Please?

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
I mean this, motherfuer I know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
You're on vacation, you're okay, okay, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
This is why I don't go on cruises. Throw him overboard,
just let okay, stop showing his ass.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
Oh that's so good, all right. I remember alf Baldwin
shot that person and killed him unfortunately on the movie set.
Tragic he's got a story to tell about seeing his
ex his what his wife's ex boyfriend's dong.

Speaker 12 (01:55:36):
I've seen one of the loves of her life naked.
He was one of the loves of her life. He
was a very important boyfriend of hers. And we wouldn't
go see him on Broadway and he was naked in
his whole as our British friends han his bits out
who wanted to go see Take Me Out, the musical
that our dear friend Scott Ellis directed, And all these
baseball players are in the locker room and they all
turn around naked with their dogs hanging out, and there

(01:56:00):
her boyfriend and I recognize him, I'm and when he
turns around with his personnelity hanging, I'm like, oh, oh,
oh okay, he had like a clarinet hanging from his pets.

Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
The guy literally turns around and we were all like,
ah ah, woa.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
This more than I it kept going Luke, But I
think he got the point. Does that not remind you
of Mike cliff Robinson story from two thousand and six?

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Why couldn't Why couldn't he have been the one that
got shot?

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
I told you that story right where I went to
a Nets game during Cliff the Lake, Clifford Robinson from
Yukon's Lessons.

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
He just had an absolute condom to the locker.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
Room before the game. It was like a regular season
game against the Bucks and it was me, my co
worker for we were working for ESPN at the time,
and two female journalists came in but they didn't look professionally,
look like college age girls, but they were. They were
doing the job and they went right up to Cliff
in the corner and we're interviewing him, and within thirty
seconds while having a conversation, he dropped his paints and

(01:57:00):
his underwear like in one motion and just stood there
with yeah, and in the conversation just kept going and
it kept going, and it was so awkward. It was
so awkward. Wow, Okay, there you go. Uh, let's keep
it going here. So this is Sky Sports Austria and

(01:57:22):
this is a commercial break. Watch what this makeup lady
comes running in with. She put a line on the
guy's hand and he blew it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:34):
Luke. Maybe it's.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
The legal before you go into I don't know, but
it was interesting. That was that was weird.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
Right, people do drugs?

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
Apparently they do.

Speaker 5 (01:57:49):
It's so weird that the person was doing drugs. It's
weird that he had a woman run up to him
put the aforementioned drug on his hand.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
Not only doing in a bathroom.

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
Not any kind of television star. But I've been around
some that were that's the actually the least surprise. I mean,
you hit the weed pen before the broadcast, not on
the air, right, dude, I'm just telling you. These dogs
who are big on TV, these are weird people. All right.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
Were you in big into monster trucks as a kid,
like I've been doing a couple a couple watched the
end of this rally right here. It's wild. I've never
went to his live.

Speaker 1 (01:58:19):
My wife did growing up. She said, the score there
so loud. You have to bring headcumps are here, Plumer,
that's pretty hard.

Speaker 2 (01:58:28):
Wait for the head man.

Speaker 1 (01:58:30):
It's definitely not a cyber truck. Okay, all right, uh
watch this, watch this monster truck and then this ass.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
Remember last week that kid had a whole of those
water cups in the back seat. He escalated, Bro, you
know what happened last time?

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
Just drive careful?

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
Please did it for the gram?

Speaker 3 (01:58:58):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:58:59):
Yeah, Okay, let's go to the punch machine. We always
have fun with that international style.

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
Here, Oh, look at this.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
That's so good. That's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:59:13):
Dude. He had the weirdest build ever. He was built
only on top.

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
Yes, uh, kind of like Sean Brady, but he's a you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
Know, John Brady, a little more muscar, a little more muscular.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
Yeah, Luke, I have long said that growing shots make
the world go around. There's nothing more funny, right. Anything
he will earn henceforth is gonna be garnished by the
Department of Justice.

Speaker 1 (01:59:33):
This building is an example while.

Speaker 4 (01:59:37):
That federal court.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
Judgment from ever having an active role in the management
of any property at all, if somebody moves into this building,
by that federal judgment, he has to use let's head
to the baseball field or softball excuse me?

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
Sounds like yes, I know, dude.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
I'm like, that's tough to happen to anybody. But you
can't like moan audibly, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:00:09):
I definitely feel like the moaning is only acceptable if
they have to call an ambulance. Okay, you know what
I mean. Like, I've seen people get so injured that
they actually have to call medical authorities. Moaning is acceptable
in that case.

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
All right, we got one more for you.

Speaker 1 (02:00:23):
Yeah, yeah, you know that's that's natural selection. That's natural selection.
This was Oh yeah, get his ass. These are people
that should not be procreating.

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
There's this one. There's a bunch of awesome dudes that
always send me crazy rugby hits. Oh my god, but
this one isn't a hit, Luke. It's a wedgie. You
know what, you got an atomic wedgie.

Speaker 1 (02:00:47):
They got different rules in that game.

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
Wow. Okay, that's something right there.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
They just you know, they don't they don't funk around
and rugby man, Luke.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
We all, unfortunately have to go to wakes and funerals
at times. Do you typically go out for a drink
after just to let off some steam?

Speaker 1 (02:00:59):
I mean, this is I don't have a post funeral routine.

Speaker 2 (02:01:02):
Okay, let's see this, guys. Okay, okay, we're gonna lose
our sponsors. New gift ideas for Twokey for the holidays.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
Oh hell yeah, real fago accent too, our scent? Excuse me, scent?
That's hilarious. Hell yeah. Remember by the way, hold, I
want to say something. Yeah, I took a dump on
Kiss and Kiss fans on my last appearance on Submission Radio.
My mentions for like two weeks have been angry kiss fans,

(02:01:38):
and I want them all to know I think you're pathetic,
fucking losers, and I'm glad I hurt your feelings. Eat
my ship, eat eat a mile of my ship to
smell my ass up close, you fucking losers.

Speaker 2 (02:01:51):
I mean, I agree with the sentiment, but the delivery
was heavy. That was that was wild. I want to
I want all of your tears sustain me the karate
demonstrate this lene well, get a little fire and a.

Speaker 1 (02:02:04):
Lot of fat guys trying to do like yeah, yeah, okay,
oh god, okay, okay, all right, I'm watching a kid
fucking scream here.

Speaker 2 (02:02:13):
I mean, we didn't start the fire. It was always burning.
Never forget right, let's never forget how to brush your
teeth the correct way.

Speaker 1 (02:02:21):
Actually, you're brushing your teeth wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
And that's why you see most people think the correct
movement is from the bottom to the top.

Speaker 1 (02:02:28):
In reality, the best way.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
You gotta go across to get all the gunk out
of there.

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
You gotta really get those hard to reach way.

Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
Let's get this fashion update now. I do not endorse
this message.

Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
You're gonna do some fucking hate message.

Speaker 2 (02:02:46):
Okay, okay, that is I can't. I mean, who's even
making this stuff? This is not funny? Is this is
too far?

Speaker 1 (02:02:51):
We're gonna get too far?

Speaker 2 (02:02:53):
Big weekend to close here for MK favorite Mike Perry,
who's in our intro when he says shout out to
Morning Combat. He did have no no footage here of
the knockouts because I don't even if we can show it,
we get hit by copyright by everybody. But he did
have dirty boxing card over the weekend, and hey, debut,
let's listen to this. His new co owner is John
Bones Jones, and they started a time asking on.

Speaker 1 (02:03:17):
All right, well, man, I gotta tell you, I didn't
know we talked about this before. I'm so surprised to
see him back with the calls. I guess I didn't
know what the story is there.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
And finally Mike Perry and Coach Litty were approached on
the sidewalk Luke with a uh and armed forces like offer,
what's up?

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (02:03:34):
How you doing?

Speaker 10 (02:03:34):
Man?

Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
Can I ask you a favorite?

Speaker 11 (02:03:37):
I got a chick, I want to come to the
hotel me tonight sorts, I want to run a train
or you want to go with me?

Speaker 2 (02:03:43):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:03:45):
My wife right here?

Speaker 2 (02:03:46):
Man, why was asking that? I just want you to
just come, you know, come get you right here. I can't.

Speaker 1 (02:03:56):
I can't do that to my wife like you sure.

Speaker 2 (02:03:59):
Y'all you don't want to be okay, thank you look
very similar at the time that you were asked, if
you want to this reminds me of my military service.
That's all the ship we got this week? What are
we getting here?

Speaker 1 (02:04:15):
And ay?

Speaker 2 (02:04:16):
Minus?

Speaker 1 (02:04:16):
Come on, that's a plus?

Speaker 2 (02:04:17):
Oh come on? That was there was you know, no
elder abuse. There was a fat punch machine guy.

Speaker 1 (02:04:25):
Hey, that's the show we got for the fast punch
machine guy was great.

Speaker 2 (02:04:27):
Yeah, fantastic. We will be back by the way Friday
from home eleven a m Eastern. We're going to what
is this weekend?

Speaker 1 (02:04:34):
Uh Mexico, Mexico City, Sagon Moreno.

Speaker 2 (02:04:40):
Yes, will you have some content worth watching on the
Luke Thomas substack Slash YouTube network.

Speaker 1 (02:04:45):
Yes. I interviewed Corey Sanhagen. The interview will be out.
I'll have my breakdown just for the Sean Brady people
out there and uh uh yeah, so cool news later
this week.

Speaker 2 (02:04:55):
I can't wait to see that. If you check out
the Brian Campbell experience. This week we got Edgar Berlanga, Boots,
Ennis Brandon morenos Oh. Should be a good week of
content right there. Follow us that the socials below, including
our own personal channels. The main card Minute, by the Way,
is owned and operated by our own Luke Nosita. So
check out Long Island's Action Long Island. You got many

(02:05:15):
anything coming to your channel soon.

Speaker 5 (02:05:17):
I'll have the best breakdowns out today and tomorrow. Watch
along on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (02:05:20):
You know the drill, That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:05:22):
What does your girlfriend think about your hobbies? She loves it, Luke,
I want you know what I want to ask. Do
you think we could get her on the Yeah, we
talked to her, she would one hundred percent come on.

Speaker 5 (02:05:32):
The other thing is we hung out Saturday night. Man,
we had that early London card.

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
We still had Saturday. You're not a great boyfriend, You're good.
You're an amazing producer and you're great on this show.
You're You're the Osama Bin Lad and the boyfriends just
the worst.

Speaker 2 (02:05:48):
That's our great show today. Thanks for kent to Ken
and the Deer for jacking up the ac for us.

Speaker 1 (02:05:54):
They they were on their phones.

Speaker 2 (02:05:56):
Ken's in like a like a winter park.

Speaker 1 (02:05:58):
They were on their phones the whole time. By the way,
showed on my shirt is bad and they go, I
don't know who that is. And I said to myself,
Holy fucking Jesus, we got to fix this.

Speaker 5 (02:06:09):
Sorry about taking You guys have never watched combat sports,
and you're talking about a fight that was like ten
years before they.

Speaker 1 (02:06:14):
Were Hagler hearns like they've even heard of it.

Speaker 5 (02:06:16):
They don't watch combats.

Speaker 2 (02:06:17):
Look, it's not to quote a great American Armenian. It's
not their fault. They were born in nineteen.

Speaker 1 (02:06:22):
It's your fault that you're here. It's your fault that
the show is still going.

Speaker 2 (02:06:26):
Let's end it, Okay, thank you for your service, thank
you for watching. Take care of yourself, and we'll see
you on Friday.

Speaker 1 (02:06:31):
We're out here.

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