UFC Paris: Imavov Wants Title after Borralho W, Saint-Denis Subs Ruffy | UFC Noche, Canelo/Crawford - MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL

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It's back in your face hole. Monday, September eighth, twenty
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so are we to break down UFC Paris a card
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We're here live at Meadle of Larks Studios in New
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we are here. What a weekend for MMA. That was
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Otolo making his pro MMA debut also on one yes
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Yes, Paris, they had bangers. I mean going on, okay,
eleven finishes and thirteen fights. You can't you can't get
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All finish card. How about that?

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It was like your early sexual encounters, just you know, yeah,
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Speaker 4 (03:29):
I didn't like Luke gesturing the fondling of the ball
bag there. That was a little dude.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
We need to get your dad, not just on the show,
but in studio. I can talk Auzie with him for
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Speaker 4 (03:39):
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Speaker 1 (03:40):
I'd rather eat a bullet.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
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Speaker 2 (03:44):
Is that some weird like Valentino joker?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, uh no, it's not. No, it's not well. How
was the weekend? I was fine, Yeah, it was fine.
My wife got home finally. No, I have finally got
home from her long ass work trip. So I have
you know, I got it. I got to take you.
I got to watch the Commanders beat the really not

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them without underwear?

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Speaker 2 (04:23):
I mean don't but a long island Luke. What what
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Speaker 1 (04:28):
Man?

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah?

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Very in depth?

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Dumped this weekend?

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My girlfriend loves wearing MK merch. She wraps the brand,
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Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (04:41):
She rocks her hoodie like almost.

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He doesn't get a lot of time with her, so
she keeps a job.

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Shout out, she must be in good shape.

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Yeah wow, looking right to the body, he's like to
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Speaker 1 (05:46):
Can't wait. Gonna be a lot of fun. But the
good news is, even though we don't have a pregame
this month, still a pretty big month for fights, including
UFC fights, and I look forward to the October.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Return absolutely, and I look forward to have you seen
this shit later in.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
This Also, we should tell folks we haven't even worked
out the plans yet, but for different reasons, we're both
going to be in Vegas on Friday. Yes, so I
think what I can say is tentatively, I think the
plan is hotel room Friday MK.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Tentatively yes, yes, yes, we'll do it somewhere, hopefully in
a good spot. Yeah, I mean tentatively there for different reasons,
you're more exploring the X.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Trade going there to you know, really lean into the
worst part of a Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
So that's the pre show part of the show. You
can be done fast forwarding. Hey, let's get right into it.
Why even waste any more time. Let's do topic number one. Yes,
I'm talking about UFC Paris. I'm talking about a fight
night cart on Saturday that absolutely delivered. Shout out to
them fighting nerds. They had a bad weekend. But let's
talk right off the top. In that main event, one

(06:50):
of two sort of unofficial slash official middleweight semi final
matchups to try to produce the next contender or challenger
for Hamzat Chimayev, and after stuffing all five takedown attempts
and beating Kyle Bohalio in just about every offensive category
over five dominant rounds, Nasardine Imovov recorded his fifth straight

(07:10):
victory and called for an immediate shot at Chamayev's belt,
while we still must have, of course, wait for that
October fourteenth Vancouver Fight Night Man event with Reneer de
Ritter against Fluffy Hernandez to fully figure it out. Luke Thomas,
did Imovov show you enough, even with the right foot
injury that he mentioned after the fight that stopped him
from being able to get a stoppage against a still

(07:31):
game Bojlio, did Imovov lead you to believe that right
now he's a threat to Chamaiev's by the way title.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
No, he did not.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
WHOA. Now let's talk about this, let's unwrap.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
So, I mean, the question you have to ask yourself,
that's the one you asked, is an important one, but
I think there's a couple of other ones we can
ask along the way. First of all, as just a
general disclaimer, you asked me, did I see somebody basically
who I thought could be competitive and potentially even beat
i'msat Chamaiev. I mean, first of all, I'll say this
on the feet, of course, on the feet, I thought
Imovov did some great stuff in this fight. In particular

(08:01):
what I love to be see he was using that
oblique kick to like a snapping front kick, and he
couldn't tab. Yeah, you couldn't tell which one was which,
the slipping off the line and then the uppercut. Dude,
that's the exact same uppercut Pavetkan killed Billion White with
same exactly one. I'm not saying he's as good Pavetkan,
but I'm saying some of those tricks looked very familiar
to me, and those are great. So it's not to
say that Imovov performed poorly. I thought he performed for

(08:24):
the most part quite well. And as you indicated, he
appears to have some kind of right foot slash leg injury.
To what extent it impacted his performance is a little
hard to say, in part because he was the superior
striker on one of the judges' score cards, which I
thought was unfair. They had at fifty forty five. Unfair,
you think I thought it could have been four to

(08:47):
one or three two.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I could see the back door angle on three to two.
I had it for nothing entering the fifth, and I
gave the fifth to Bohalio. I understood that he outstruck
Imovov in some earlier rounds, but I thought visibly visually
he would is getting the worst of the AA.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
When I say that, I don't think the judging was.
I mean, the right guy won, so who really cares?
But I get it like the rounds in certain ways
were kind of close, so whenever that happens, you just
never know which way it's going to go. But I
thought he performed well, and I think there were four
but I know, excuse me, five takedown attempts in this
fight by Kyle Bohalio. He attempted to take down in

(09:21):
every round except round five, and he got stuffed on
all five. That says something, that says something. I don't
think imavav is some kind of scrub by any stretch
of the imagination. And here's the important thing that we
really have to consider, separate from what BC is asking,
but relevant, which is has he done enough to earn
a title shot? And on that level, the answer is
clearly yes. And what we had discussed pre fight. Remember,

(09:44):
imavav was a slight underdog, I believe heading into this one,
it's very slight.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Right now, how did the better not jump all over
plus him?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Well? Because right, well, let's let this is part of
the answer we had said on Friday, who's more well rounded?
It's Bahalio, and I think that it's still kind of true.
But as you can see, the defensive takedown ability of
Imovov was as good as it needed to be. And
on the feet, you did not think that Kyo had
better stand up, So some of the ways in which

(10:13):
he was more well rounded was neutralized.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Right he looked out of answers on them.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Okay, but here's the problem. Even granting that there was
some kind of a potential injury that impacted his mobility
or performance or whatever, the kind of takedown threat that
Bohalio posed is not even on the same like bordering
on the same level as Hamzai.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's a true fact.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Two other things concerned me. One, you would notice Bohalio
what it would be able to get under hooks and
then just walk Imovov to the fence. There was a
information that came out that Imovov on fight night was
one ninety four. That's not necessarily a big middleweight. In fact,
some middleweight's routinely get over two hundred pounds when they rehydrate,

(10:54):
sometimes in the two five to two ten range. All right,
so he's actually kind of small. He just got walked
over with an underhook to that second of all, And
this is the bigger problem because this is a consistent
thread throughout. He waits around a little bit his offense.
He did lead with some pressure, but again the slipping
and then the upper cutting is nice, but it's a

(11:15):
lot of it. As the fight went on, he was
waiting for Bohoalio to walk into something or to give
him something to react to. And I just think all
those factors together, and the long winded answer BC is
I'm happy to say the guy earned a title shot. Yeah,
and I'm happy to say he performed well. But that's
not the same as saying I saw anybody who I
thought could give Hams out a fight. I did not

(11:36):
see that.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I'm not offended by that because it's weird. I saw
a lot of a lot of the Twitter reaction being like, hey,
nice win, but neither of these guys would have a
prayer against Hamza or nice win, but you're still boring,
You're still this, You're still that. I was thoroughly impressed
by what Imavov did. He completely took Bohlio's game away
from him. Obviously took it away by stuffing the five takedowns,
but was levels above him on the striking, not just

(11:59):
from the sharpness and the technical of being able to
at times as the counterpuncher lure him in and land,
or when he did turn on rounds three and four
when he started coming forward and leading with those little
short elbows like dude. He was miles above Bohalio, who
was the betting favorite coming in in the striking, to
the point where even the defense Bohlio could not even
touch him until late in round four when he started

(12:21):
to just slip in a quick power jab as Imovov
was slowing down just a bit, and probably that right
foot injury caught up with him to a certain degree
as well. And yes, by the end of the fight,
Imovov's face was marked up a little bit like it
was a real fight. Bohalio was game for all five rounds,
but he was almost auditing him through three rounds, like
completely picking him apart. And what that shows me is

(12:41):
there are certain elements to his game that I have
overlooked along the rise that I've sort of said, well, yeah,
you know, hey, nice knock out of a out of Sonia,
But you know, he's kind of this, he's kind of boring,
He's kind of that. I didn't look at him as
boring on Saturday. I thought he fought the perfect fight
for most of that fight. And it's still a different
hill to climb when it says, okay, but can you
survive to myves wrestling, That's a different equation that I'm

(13:03):
not even sure anyone in this division is fully ready
to answer. Though obviously people like RDR and Fluffy just
by styles would have maybe more interesting answers. But I
felt like this was the performance where I finally was like, fit,
I don't care about his lack of charisma. I don't
care about this. This guy is championship worthy right now.
Does it help that he's got this explosive ass card

(13:24):
crowd exploding on everything he does. I mean that helps
hammer the point home. But I saw a guy who's
striking was levels above Boholio, and I'm like, maybe there
are elements to his timing to how he that like
he almost looked like at poor Man's out of Sonia
in there on Saturday. Dude, not especially when he was
waiting as the counter, as the waiting for him to
come some.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, some of the counters were clever, nice, smooth, accurate, linear. Yes,
I'll give you that.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Like Bohoalio is used to flowing. He's got sort of
that south paw machiedah like karate stance, and dude, the
flow was cut off.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
This job was not too be in this fight. If
I had to think of like one thing that did
catch him above, wouldn't you agree?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah? But it started really like I just said, late
in the fourth round. It wasn't happening in the first
three and a half rounds. I really think it was,
you know, the foot With the championship rounds there were
Imovov slowed down a bit. But look, what I'm trying
to say is you shut that dude down. He made
it look like he was a journeyman. Can I do
was the betting favor coming in? Did that not surprise
you as much as it did me? That it's like,

(14:25):
oh shit, dude, this guy technically has a much firmer
grasp of the operation than I realized.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I think I think we felt the same things, but
to different degrees, because it's not like what you're saying
is a foreign feeling to how what I got from him,
But I don't feel it so heavily like I expected
him to be. I mean, what's he called the sniper,
right I expected him to have some of that, and
you saw evidence of that. Again. Also, the speed of

(14:55):
his combinations a middleweight were fantastic.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I thought that missed with the counter right hand, could
not miss.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
It was a phenomen It was phenomenal in that sense,
but I to a degree expected it and I just
didn't get much answered with the wrestling. Also, we really
need to talk about this. I can't affirmatively declare what
role it played, but the fact that right after the fight,
Bajalio says, I need to find something to get the

(15:20):
fire back, and he had done all the traveling, all
that extra weight cutting three weeks ago, which again, having
talked to people who measured their own fighters, you know,
vitals essentially during weightcuts, Destosterone is one of the things
that gets affected the most. I think you're straight up
depleting yourself again, I am, I'm making some kind of

(15:41):
supposition here. It is very hard for me to see
how that served his interests prior to this fight. At
a bare minimum, I can say that. So again, it's like,
did I Movov do the task that was asked of him?
There's simply no question, and he may have done it
with some kind of relative handicap based on the injury,
but didn't give us a great look into what it

(16:03):
means for Hamzat's potential chances against Imovov, Whereas I feel
like with UFC Vancouver's main event between RDR and Fluffy,
one way or the other, we're gonna get more useful
information out.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Of there, especially if there's a stoppage in that it
could potentially give a one up. Although I think it
was a pretty strong call out for Imovov afterwards to
have the crowd just around him and engulfing him, and
that crowd was on fire. All my all five French,
five frenchmen went five and oh or French people. No,
it was French frenchmen. French Men went five and oh. Ultimately,
but the French, but like, I don't know, man, I mean,

(16:37):
just to close on Bohalio here on this specific point,
was the biggest issue the inactivity. And remember Nastardin Imovov
scored his two biggest wins, the stoppage of Israel Outasania
and the decision win over Brendan Allen since Boholio last
fought thirteen months ago, and then Bohalio thirteen months ago

(16:58):
scored his best win a decision went over Jared Kannanier,
who Imovov had knocked out two months before that. So
I'm trying to say, is like I kind of was
right the way I said coming in that it's the
most of the four. It's the guy who has the
strongest case on paper coming in Immovov against the guy
who was the least strongest case on paper, Bojolio, And
it just so happened that it played out that way.

(17:19):
Did it play out that way though, because of Bohilio
was in activity, because of the double weightcut, because we
found out that he's just not on the championship level
in terms of the technique there, or all of that
combining together to work against him.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I'm gonna say all of that worked against him. I
think you listed the most relevant factors. The fact that,
again to what extent did the extra weightcut play a role.
It's very hard to know, but based on the evidence
of what we have, it is very hard to see
how that couldn't have been anything but at least somewhat disruptive,
potentially much more than that. That's the first thing I'd say.
Second thing I'd say is you didn't mention, but I

(17:53):
think it's important. Remember, Imovov had losses on his UFC record.
On his UFC record up until Saturday, Kyle Bojoalio did not.
He was more consistent, and I do think that also
played a role in how the odds ultimately came together.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Right, Kyle Bohalio hadn't lost in ten years coming.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
In, which is no small feat again for Imovolv to
get a win over guy like that. However, even though
he was more consistent fight over fight, I felt like
the bigger leaps technically over the course of the last
few years in particular were taken by imovof That's what
it looked like to me. So I can take into

(18:31):
consideration that it's the weight cut. I can take into consideration. Partly,
I think some of his skill development has kind of
topped out a little bit, as well as you know,
all the other factors that you enumerated. They all kind
of worked together not to create some bum but he
was just behind the eight ball basically most of the
time flight.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
And couldn't get out of it. So here's my harsh
question that I've got to ask. Look, I'm not trying
to do you know, eight victory lapse. I'll just leave
it on too. This is kind of what I predicted
what happen. Although I said it would be a souper
much closer fight or of a majority decision split decision,
But the whole instincts of what I thought coming in
played out. So let me ask you about bohalio It.
We can't overlook the double weightcut and the thirteen months

(19:11):
of inactivity. But it was said coming in that he's
the founder of the fighting Nerds, He's the game planner.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Of the group.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I don't know if you watched the pre fight interview
packets they do right before the main event. Kyle basically
was like, I want to be remembered as the smartest
fighter in UFC history. The way that I adapt during
a fight, the way that I game plan and pick
out my opponent's weaknesses. I wasn't the one in there
I'm a keyboard warrior. He had zero adaptability in this fight.
It was almost as if just as Imovov slowed down

(19:39):
Bohoalio was doing the same things he was trying earlier.
It's just that because he's a dog and he went
after it. He was finally having some success and I
scored the fifth round for him, but it wasn't overwhelming success.
Where was that iq that adaptability? Did that all get
swallowed by the inactivity and the double weightcut as well?
Or was this ultimately an audit. I don't really want
to make it all about the fighting nerds audit, but
that's how everyone's kind of framing it. Did you look

(20:02):
at this and go, no, he really is not at
that level, And it's not just the inactivity in the
in the double.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Way cup I did I did. I didn't see him
able to really switch gears once the takedown was shut down,
and again he went for it for most of the fight,
but you know not. I think the first round he
went for two takedowns, both of which got stuffed, and
then after that it was just one round without it.
He didn't really have a lot of answers he you know,

(20:28):
and again this was not a guy who couldn't get
the underhook and then press Imovov against the fence, which point,
now you can just you know, level change down. You
can there's a lot you can do to reconsolidate the position.
He just didn't seem to have another gear, right.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
He got high on the fighting nerds, and I enjoyed
that high.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
I think the hiding, I mean, I think the lesson
here we'll talk about Marisa Hooving a minute, but I
think the lesson with the fighting nerds is there's clearly
something to what they're doing. They've had a lot of success,
but now that they're moving up the food chain, you're
beginning to see the problems that emerge where Yeah, if
they're fighting unranked or like top fifteen guys, they tend
to feast. Well, let's see what happens in top ten,

(21:04):
top five territory Long Island.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Look, you you had gone with the fighting nerds. Uh
so you definitely. I was thinking to you the whole time.
I mean it blew up like the World trade. Unfortunately
for you. Did you feel this? No, I meant the
nine ninety three I was making the big bro. I know,
Long Island. Were you disappointed? Ultimately? Or how disappointed were
you ultimately and what Bohalio didn't do.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Uh, I want to say I was more disappointed in Hoofy,
but I know we'll get to that fight. But uh, Bohalio,
I do think the double weight cut probably affected him
a little bit. We said when we were previewing this fight.
I was like, I think I Mobov has a better
stand up. I would hope Boholio can implement his wrestling
and the fact that he stood with him for five
rounds is like, all right, well I didn't expect.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
That's what the comment would go back and look at
the wrestling attempts.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
They were poor.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
What the comment afterwards where Bohalio said and I like
to call out to his son, all like, well that
was a good dude. I'm not trying to dunk on him.
But the comment of like, I wanted to give the
fans a real fight for five rounds, so I kept
it on the feet, like, no, you got stuffed in
your attempt.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
And also also, please don't fucking do that. Like, guys,
I wanted to give you an exciting fight. I would
rather than say this, I wanted to give you an
exciting fight. But I had to get that w I
can live with that a lot more than I wanted
to give you guys an exciting fight, So I showed
bad fight IQ.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Like no, no, we got a video of v exiting
the arena, going backstage and referencing that injury that we
had talked about.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
The ship.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Luke Pealstein flag around him, you can Luke Thomas gets political.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
We don't have to talk about that here, okay, but
but you know, you see him limping there. I guess
with the adrenaline wearing off. I don't know how much
that affected him. But it's like if he was that
banged up and Bajolio still couldn't take him down, It's like,
do you think Hams wouldn't have got him down with
an injury like that?

Speaker 7 (23:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
You know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
So here's the deal. So we do know that and
have trained together in the past. There's pictures of them.
This has the potential, if ends up getting the title shot,
to be what the first time you have see history
too Muslim fighters me against one another. So I understand that,
but maybe the fact that him and Chimaiev, although not
from the same region, are both Russians. They both have
respect for each other, but I didn't necessarily love this.

(23:27):
Next interview afterwards, where was asked by a full Centam
and Mad to sort of send a.

Speaker 8 (23:31):
Message Toms listen, congratulations brother and uh final message for hamamaur.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Is cut out essential seven moment. Wait wait wait, let's
me face that.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
Sorry he said he said, congratulations, congratation for the victory
from Congetician for the belt. Uh, you know, I don't
want to call him out. I want to call out
the belt. If he has the belt, of course, we're
going to fight for the belt. If he goes up
in white class, I'm going to fight for whoever got
the belt. My goal is the belt is not.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Okay, I'm not saying he has to call it the
guy's mom or do something ridiculous. You'll fucking call his
name out. Let's call like like Step left on the mountain.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Potentially Steps fight ended up sucking for Wolf for Driggers,
I suppose, But but the lead up was great because
Drigis wasn't backing down.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know my soft play this. I'd be like, well,
I don't want to call him out, but are there okay?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Within Russia there are subgroups. Are the subgroups that and
Tamayah from Are they in any way rivals?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Well, Mayav is checking Vov is from August and obviously
he moved France when he was four and was raised there.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
But I mean there's that.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
That's why I set it up. I mean, they're both more.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I'm just trying to say there might be cultural sensitivities
that are affecting this that I don't know how they play,
but I agree if that's not in play, if that's
not a thing, and he's just doing this because you
know they're there buddies, it's like, I agree, you got
to you got to dial.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
It up away, all right, so it goes without I
shouldn't even have to ask you. But if the UFC
were like, okay, forget about October fourteenth, we've got the matchup. Now,
you don't think that's justified right now? Imovov did not
put him in a good spot. Yeah, but you're saying
that it's not stamped. This is not an automatic.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
We've said it on Friday. It's this was an audition
to show us who can give us the most interesting
hamsat Chimaya fight. We don't have enough information to make
that call you, Okay, we.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Do have one more Imovov video. Here's the Imovov talking
about why he's not worried that the October fourteenth, already
our Fluffy fight will upstage him.

Speaker 9 (25:53):
You said after the fight, you said, there's no other
option for me than the title shot. Obviously we've got
that fight in Vancouver. So will you even got to
gut there to watch that fight? Are you just gonna
stay here?

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Whatever?

Speaker 6 (26:08):
Cage?

Speaker 4 (26:08):
The vocal I've done, isn't.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
This your lang?

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (26:16):
I'm the next I'm not even worried about the next fight.
I mean you have to be rallied. And no one
did what I did for him for the last year,
and I it's just you know, five five open, five
top ten guys, two finishes, I mean, no one did that.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
He doesn't have a He has the strongest resume. Even
though Fluffy's got more consecutive wins, no one has beat
the competition, even r DR is incredible run. No one
has done what I has done. He has the fan
base behind him. I mean, put that title fight in Paris.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Has the best resume in terms of who did you
beat to get this opportunity? Yes, Imovov is your clubhouse leader, but.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well, Holio took a step back and here Sean Strickland
on Twitter to go a little bit deeper. Is this
justified or too much? Luke Shawn would would TYO?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Can I read it? Sure? Kyle? This is Sean Strockland talking. Quote.
Kyo is my buddy, but he's an idiot. He trained
with us and was useless. Me. What's wrong with you? Kyo?
I'm cutting. I'm an ath, I'm an alternate. So back
to Sean talking. So you're giving up four weeks of
your camp cutting weight twice while having a fight coming up?
Whoever told you to do that? Please hit him? Yeah,
he's fucking right.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, and you warned us about that.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
He's fucking dude. It's such if you have to cut
maybe five to seven pounds, like it's a really moderate amount,
maybe that's not a big deal. But if it's fifteen
or more due, that is such a bad idea. Stop
doing it. And this thing where it's like I want
to please UFC or or you know, I wanted to
give the crowd something. You're trying to please and validate
all these other external factors, buddy, stop worrying about all

(27:45):
of that. The fans will appreciate and the UFC will
appreciate if you're able to maximize what you can do
in the cage. If you're not doing that, yes, you
might be doing a fan service or a UFC service,
but ultimately that's not a you service. You service gotta
come first.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I'm with you on that service yourself above all.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yes, whether it's an RB's bathroom or a gas station pump,
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
It's busy, burger king wherever you gotta go. I am
excited though about the playoff feel that Saturday Nights Fight
had that the October fourteenth fight is going to have.
I mean it puts strong opening statement from Imavov. Yes,
either of those gentlemen you know, get a TKO, get
a submission, win October fourteenth. I wonder if that's the
right edge. But you also need that crowd to back

(28:27):
you up. This was an extra extra extra special crew.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
We talked about this. This is one factor where again
I don't know what the UFC's plans are or even
really what their calculations are. But in a world where
you don't need to be on pay per view anymore,
part of the reason why they were on pay per view,
I'm sorry, part of the reason why so many fights
that were on pay per view. There are exceptions to
Abu Dhabi card the occasional UK card, but most of

(28:51):
them take place and again in Australia too. I mean
they've they've moved around, but the vast majority of them
take place in the US or Canada, which is not
an accident because those are the market that are paying
for pay per view BC in a world where you
no longer have to cater to that need, now that there
might be other needs. Hey, start time. We don't want
to change that you name it, but can you move
a UFC title fight to Paris? Please?

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Do?

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I would say in theory you are unencumbered in ways
that you did not used to be, just like.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
We always told PFL and Belitor in recent years, you
see that reaction in Ireland keep going back like it
almost doesn't matter. I mean, obviously you want local people
on the card, but it almost doesn't matter. These people
just want big time.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
By the way, I think this was the highest gate
for an MMA event at this arena ever, so you go.

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Speaker 2 (31:43):
Alrighty, let's go to topic number two. We stay in Paris
on Saturday, UFC Fighting at Nicole main event. The match
two top fifteen ranked all action lightweights, but in the
end only one of them would produce set action and
instead of leaving his chin exposed to huge counterstree, Benoa
Saint Deni relied upon heavy body kicks and relentless grappling

(32:04):
pressure to produce four takedowns, three full mounts, and multiple
backtakes of Maurice Ohofi en route to a one sided
second round submission win. Did this result prove that Benoa
Saint Denis is still a very relevant force in the
one hundred and fifty five pound title picture after two

(32:25):
straight wins, both by.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Submission title picture? I don't know, but I will say
this win is the most restorative for his brand of
the last two that he's had and certainly repaired some
of the damage that has been done since the Poirier
losspe See. I still think there's a lot of room

(32:47):
to go before BSD shows us exactly how far he
can go. We don't exactly know yet. To me, though
I'm gonna say two things. The result of this fight
is Number One, Marisa Hoof, he got found out. He
has poor wrestling and poor grappling, and there's really no

(33:08):
other way to say that.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
He was a disaster straight up.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
This fight with he was a disaster. He as good
as he is on the feet, and my lord, he's
a ton of fun. He is woefully lacking on the ground.
But two, I will say this for BSD. He managed
to fight in a way that he looked like himself.
He was moving across the octagon, he was initiating offense,
he was aggressive in ways that made sense. But is

(33:31):
it my imagination BC or did you notice a at
least somewhat more thoughtful And you could see he was
thinking through problems and had a plan. Here's what I
want to do, Here's what I'm going to do in
these situations as they as they reveal themselves. And there
was a bit of a methodical application of a game.
He didn't just go floor a gas pedal to the floor,

(33:54):
march across and then just have you know, it's exert
a bunch of energy. No, it seemed like there was
a plan in play place that he was executing. So
in other words, he and his team managed to keep
him fighting in a way that seems like it's a
natural extension of how he fights, but without being super
reckless in that way.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Did walk into a couple of shots in round two?

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yes, so he's still himself kind of getting ding ding
ding Like.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
It wasn't full chin out, Hey, everybody, let's go, let's bang.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
But it was a couple of those Yes, I believe me.
I saw those two. I got a little nervous. I
got a little nervous. But at the same time, I
just feel like you'd be a little wrong to not
acknowledge that there seemed to be a little bit more
method to the madness this time. But BC, the story
of this fight is hoofy brothers and sisters. If you

(34:42):
get mounted and they collect both of your elbows, I
don't know how to explain this. That is positionally about
as dominant as it gets short of getting tea bagged.
That's about as bad as it gets.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
The borderline tea bag when you get mounted so many
four three times.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, But if you're mounted and you can kind of
keep inside frames, there's things you can do. The goal
of anyone in those positions made many goals, but one
of the key goals, one of the ways you demonstrate
the dominance in that position is not only achieving it,
but then separating their elbows from their body. That's the key.
So you could see he would collect both of them
and he'd be all up here and stuff like that. Dude,

(35:17):
is that is big brother shit in jiu jitsu, And
again in this particular case, it actually had some technical
application along the way. But what killed me the lack
of hand fighting from Hoofy. He would get his back
taken and he wouldn't try and build height to shake
him off. He just seemed lost out there, like he
had never even been with someone who had done this
to him before. And brother, it showed.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, he was the guy who was the betting favorite. Close,
but betting favorite. He was the guy who was the
betting favorite. Yes, and he had the momentum where people
were like, of all the fighting nerds, this guy might
be long term, the best, the most ex He had the.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Most intriguing stand up.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
But I mean, Jesus, coming off of a wheel kick high,
you know, knockout of the year attempt against King Green,
like it was everything was coming up Fighting Nerds until
it was on this card, and they did play up
that Brazil France soccer rivalry as being sort of the
the ground floor of I mean, Bob by the way
aspinall got booed shit whole hit. Yes, wow, they love

(36:11):
them some serial gain right there. But this has to
be a bigger discussion, unfortunately about the Fighting Nerds, a
great group of aggressive, savage, get after it fighters and
multiple weight divisions, but to have two very one sided
losses that were lacking like this, I mean, can we
show the footage of Mauricio Hoofi heading back to the
front door of the Fighting Nerds gym the next morning? Uh?

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Oh, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I mean, Luke jokes aside, is it also a disaster
for the reputation of this gym as we head into
Lord Gansilva this Saturday against Diego Lopez? Or you're gonna
catch losses at the elite level. Let's get back, let's regroup.
I don't know if you regroup from this.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
That was like, nah, this is a little bit worse
than just I mean, I don't think it's fatal or
something like that, but it's not merely did their stock
take a hit It's the question is did their stock
take a deserved hit? Yes, yes it did. Carlos Protest
had a good rebound, but that loss to Ian Gary
showed us some of his limits. In this particular case,

(37:14):
Hoofy got completely audited. Now and again. BSD can achieve
dominant positions and did get them on for example, Dustin Poarier.
But Dustin Poario had enough otherwise scrambling ability to make
things interesting or to slow him down, whereas Hoofy felt
like he was absolutely at bsd's mercy every single time
throughout the range of different things that was happening. So

(37:37):
that was a big deal. Who do we have Kyle?
I think Kyle didn't fight poorly, but it looked like
I don't think he thought poorly. He just fought out
of ideas. He just didn't have a lot of ideas.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Kyle fought poorly on Saturday or not.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Yeah, he fought poorly.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
I think poorly is a strong He didn't get finished, dude,
I mean there was no ten eight round.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I mean it could have been a back door three
two loss too, depending on the judge as well. I
mean I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
But really, I mean he thought just lesser. That is
what it seemed like to me. And now you got
Hoofy getting audited. Now Jayon Silva BC did go up
against Bryce Mitchell. Now, Bryce Mitchell left the weight class
after this, but at least someone who was at one
point ranked tested him in his wrestling, So you got
a little bit there. And Diego Lopez is a decent wrestler,

(38:22):
but not a lights out wrestler. You would think this
one might might go on the feet for some period
of time, which clearly favors jay On Silva. But I
do think that this camp. Yeah, oh, when they're beating
the non ranked guys, they feast, and slightly ranked guys
they still feast. But after that is when the problems
starts to emerge.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Dean Thomas was on the UFC postfight show. We got
a quote tweet here of he had some harsh words
against Hoofy. Constructive but he said, maybe he's not as
good as we thought he was. He's still got some
work to do. But tonight he did not show up
and he did not look like he wanted to be
out there. So Luke, that is you know, only fighters
and coaches can be that aggressive. It seems in their breakdown,

(39:00):
would you go to that level that that he didn't
He he looked like he got the fight sort of
taken out of him, you know that, he looked like
he didn't want to.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yes, when you're not fighting the hands, when you're not
building height, when you're just kind of at the mercy
of someone else the answers, you're you're out of Yeah,
you're I mean again, remember the levels in jiu jitsu survive, defend, attack.
He was mostly just surviving and even that not very well.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Well, bad night for Brazil and the fighting nerds, big
night for France. Here is a little iron sharpening iron
after the fight between b SD and PUN.

Speaker 7 (40:00):
Always still.

Speaker 10 (40:19):
Give them respect, but.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Get that tendon healed up there. You gotta be ready.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
They were talking about their favorite straweights for folks that
don't speak.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, maybe that maybe that was like translated into that,
but real like you see that. Yeah, okay, no, no,
that's that's not there. Long Island. Look confidence level at
b s D against top ten lightweights moving.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
I'm still not sold. I think this was more like
an audit of Hoofy than it was like, Oh, b
SD is back in the contending pool. You know, I
got to you.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Did you agree that he thought at least somewhat more sensibly?

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Sure, but I still don't think I've seen enough to
know if he'll ever like contend for a title.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Would you make of what he said afterwards in the
cage when he said, basically, guys like this talking about Hoofy,
they have one way to entry. This is he was
well over hyped. It was all about the media. He
basically kind of put it out there that like the
media played up this idea that Hoofy was rising and
BSD was struggling, when in reality we saw what we saw.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
But the media also blew up BSD but that he
was some kind of world beater and then he failed
in that one too.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
ESD after the fight would go on even greater links
and basically say he put himself through hell for a year,
and I liked how we kind of apologized to the fans,
not like he don't need to do that, but basically
like you guys stuck with me through my downs and
now I'm back up. It does seem like to your point, Luke,
there was a strong level of looking in the mirror
and figuring out what went wrong in those consecutive stoppage losses,

(41:51):
and how he has to humble himself. He used the
word humble a few times, so if that's what he
needs to be a little bit more responsible defensively, which
is the only thing that will him to get to
the title level. He can beat anybody on any given
night because he's powerful, he's aggressive. He is a god
of war, and I want to see him as this
division unloads their legendary all action names, reloads with contenders.

(42:12):
He's sort of right in the middle. They're at thirty
two to fight win streak. I hope he continues to
work on those holes because there is a lot to
like about his game, a lot to.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Like there is, But to icho exactly your point, there
still needs to be a significantly greater level of refinement
for him to go to really interesting places.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I'm with you on that, all right. Let's go to topic
number three, and it's the rest of this UFC Paris undercard,
but most importantly, the record setting explosiveness this fight night
in Paris made history on Saturday for a modern day
UFC card, with eleven stoppages and thirteen fights and a
whopping nine KO slash Tkos. It also featured an explosive

(42:54):
crowd from literally start to finish, So luke from Bukowskis
to Mason Jones to Bresec to fock Retnikov or anyone
in between. We had nine stoppages on Saturday and a
bunch of breakthrough victories which undercard fighter boosted their current
stock the most after recording a finish. Comparisons gotta be.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Modesta Splukowskis, gotta be okay got to me and you
had asked me, I wasn't super high, Not not that
I thought he would lose. I thought he would win,
But you know, what could you really do from here?
He looked to me pretty improved. You saw him throw
in this fight and then make adjustments off of the
previous kind of strike he'd been throwing to modify. I
talked about this on my Live Reaction show where he

(43:36):
has an underhooking head on the same side and then
he began to switch so because that wasn't giving him
the control that he needed. So you could see him
problem solving in real time. Then Craig pulls guard. He
immediately knows what to do and then started giving him
the business with the ground Yeah, that's right. It started
giving him the business with the ground and pound, and
I was like, you know what, after the fight was over,

(43:58):
who did he call out? He said, I'll take anyone
in the top fifteen. He's earned it. BC, He's earned it.
I really thought he gave He looked like a fighter
who was, by the way, in good shape, of course,
but it looked to me like he's the kind of
guy who does his homework. Yeah, and I don't know
what his ultimate ability is, but I know he's going
to come prepared on fight night. And that's exactly what

(44:20):
you got. I will say, though, I will say if
I can, Mason Jones has comeback in this Okay. It
was great. And also Axel Sola. Everyone talks about how
the stoppage was too early against Reese McKee, and it was,
but who was dealing Yes, before the stoppage, Sola, I
told you him out of aries the French promotion, he
looks to be the real deal.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Holy Field was absolutely bringing up let's just close off
this Paul Craig discussion. It is one thing to beat
guys like Kute Laba and now Paul Craig, you gotta
beat the bigger names the more explosive ones in the
top tenber the Leis Bukowskis has put himself in position
to be able to be that what Luke, This was
the final walk for Paul Craig ultimately, and that was
an absolutely vicious way to go out in your final

(45:00):
fight with one second left in the round and just
got cranked. Was an elbow, lead elbow.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
It was an elbow and he came down with the
Again this we talk about. We're talking about the homside fight.
You have to create separation with chess contact because that's
where you can get the wind up and brother, he
wound them up.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
In the cage afterwards. Here's an emotional Paul Craig exiting
the arena for the final time.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
He is speaking English, but it's Scottish so you may
not understand. You'll hear it in just a second.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Oh I'm hoperable, but it's a read decision. Johnny County
High fives Sport.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
I don't know what language that was, but we love
is something like cannot. This is their slang version of it.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Thirty seven years old. He did finish his career losing
six out of his last seven, but he's got three
victories over former champions. He's the only fighter to defeat
Mago Met and Caliath as a pro. He has the
most triangle submission wins in UFC history. Luke, I, will
you best remember a guy that we got to know
through room service diaries? Pretty well? Paul Craik.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
What a delightful addition to the fight game. I've made
this point on this show so many times, not so
much about Paul Craig specifically, although I think he fits
what I'm about to say, which is so much of
what we discuss, understandably is about what the champions do
or what people on their way to the championship do,
and everything kind of revolves around the very, very elite
side of it, which again I don't really have a
problem with that seems utterly normal. But the point that

(46:38):
I've tried to make to people is if you just
focus on that side of the game and you don't
have an appreciation for the other parts of MMA, you
miss a lot of actually what makes it special. Paul
Craig is one of these guys who had a skill
set that's not supposed to work and the way that
it did in modern MMA. He finished the current champion
Maga man on Calive. He finished in the first round
the former champion Jamal Hill. He got wacky, weird wins

(47:01):
because he had a wacky, weird game and an interesting,
dynamic personality. And by the way, was he a world beater, No,
but he could beat some good guys along the way.
This is what you want, people who are interesting contributors,
maybe at the sub championship level, but they're fun and
they're different, and they're dynamic, and they're flawed, and they're
not the world beaters, but there's a special kind of

(47:23):
magic to them. He is a specialist team guys like him,
Guys like Matt Brown, who's a different kind of thing,
but you know, similar kind of place that he holds
in the fight game. They bring me so much joy
as a fan, so I really salute him. He hadc
Did he have an elite career, No, but did he
have a good career? I would argue that he did.
And how many guys out of Scotland can go and

(47:44):
beat and submit on Coliaves in the hills of the world.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
When you when you beat three former champions, not a
one of them is an aging showgun. We get it.
But when you beat three former champions, it means you've
had cups of coffee with being elite, like you've been
close to it. And you know, some of his biggest
wins came after he took a beat in and would
do it and the on Colia dramatic fashion going on.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Luke, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't have it
in front of you. The on Calive win was like
at the last second in the third round, no less right.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Yeah, and he was losing thirty twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah, this is what I mean, dude. He he injected
a little bit of personality with a fun, different, flawed,
but cool game.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Didn't the ask him once on that social video, who
is one person living or dead that you'd like to
have lunch with? And he was like McKenzie dere so.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
No, it was uh, who would you like to take
home to Thanksgiving? Or something something like that.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
The Internet streets will forever fondly remember him. Now, Luke,
you did mention Bukowskis as one of the biggest winners.
I've got a shout out Anti Delia, Dude. Could you
want more from your UFC debut to have an emotional
story about hard work coming in have the storyline setup
of your facing marchin Tai Burrah at this point, is
that sort of litmus test a heavyweight if you're for
real and you've got the story of him having beat

(48:52):
you ten years ago when you broke your leg and
Luke I didn't realize the details. He was essentially out
of the sport for three years after that broken leg,
kept trying to come back. It took a while for
him to get back. Now, look at this a almost instantaneous,
demolishing knockout. But well he may and I want to
find out if you feel like he looks instantly like

(49:13):
a heavyweight title contender here in his debut. Is that
positive news offset by the reality that he trains with
the current champion, Tom Aspinall.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
No, it's not the only way for him to get
money is to go fight Tom Aspital. No, what what
can he do in this sport to make himself money
other than a road? I mean again in sing.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Does that make it not as exciting as it could
be of a debut because the bass he's not going
to fight the boss.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
At the end. No, No, I don't even think I
mean these guys, No, I don't even there might be
cases where I consider that this will not be one
of them, but that was the hell of a victory. Man. Again,
we said it, what does it mean to be marching Taborow? Well,
it doesn't tell us that you're going to be champion,
but it definitely tells us you're not going to be
An also ran in this division, and he ran over

(50:00):
for him pretty quickly.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
You know, moved to a different country without his family
to get this training into join Aspinall's gym. So you
see as we go to the videotape here of Aspinall's
reaction in the crowd, it got emotional.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Way way let's go.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
I mean that's that's Those are some man tears right there.

Speaker 6 (50:31):
First.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Boy, Yeah, that's you love to see hard work rewarded.
It was, it was, it was inspirational degree. Here's the
lee afterwards talking about the impact of that relationship with Aspen.

Speaker 6 (50:40):
I'm feeling amazing. I work hard twenty years for this moment.
This is my last last change. I'm thirty thirty five
years old. UH champion Tennispinal helped me to sign to
UFC and this this is my dream and this amazing
moment moment for me for my family and.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (51:01):
I believe myself. I believe I'm knocking out with him
in in, in it around. I worked every day with
Tomay spinal and smashed me years and a half, and
I know I am ready for Tibora and everybody nice.
Yeah he's I say, this is my my my dream,
this is my dream, my last last chance, and I'm

(51:22):
so happy. He's too hard. Yeah, I'm broken leg and
too much injury. I'm I'm ten operation and it's it's hard, hard,
but but I'm I'm I'm today.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
That's we came in thinking it could be a big
night for the fighting nerds. How about the aspinall gym
there with two guys Bukowskis and Delia kind of getting
our biggest props on the undercard afterwards, that's a breakthrough
moment for that, Jim Long, I'll look, do you see
Auntie not Uncle Auntie as a potential contender here?

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Yeah, but I'm like, you BC where, I'm like, I'm
kind of bummed out, like, oh great, we got a
new contender. Oh he trained so tom.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I mean if Delia, if Delia is that always saying
I'm getting the committee, and if Delia knocks out all
the contenders, I kind of feel like you have to
make a business decision at that point, right and just
say we've come this far together, but now we're we're
gonna fight.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah. Again, this is not a ka where Fitch and
Coshtek were neither champion and they were taking their turns
trying to get Saint Pierre. You know DC. Well again
they change divisions. True, and Delia obviously made some money
with PFL, but like if he wants to make real money, well,
here's the other part. We would have asked when all

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loses to God, in which case great if you're a Dalia.
So he's trying to see what his options are. But
if it comes time to sign on the dotted line,
they're gonna sign on the dotted line.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
I mentioned it was a big day for France. Can
we go to the graphic here five and zero for
the French fighters fighting in Paris this weekend involve in
the main event BSD Sola, like you mentioned, got the
stoppage win William Gomes who got one of the two
decisions on here. Along with the main event, he also
continues a strong run to kick.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
It off the wrong run is over selling it completely.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
All right. It was a big you know, I'm trying
to stay.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Unremarkable, okay, but umar c this was pretty good. That
was a good win, actual soula I thought was great.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
What do you make of the punching power of Robert?
How do I say that? Chick? Check check? Now I'm
going to ask you a bit important question about Robert breecheck.
But first, did you like the power in that in
the finish that he brought?

Speaker 1 (53:27):
You know, he was he was having some trouble, but
he kind of just kept swinging the axe a little
bit and then eventually overcame. He looks like a decent athlete.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Hands But what do you make in the post fight
speech and broken?

Speaker 1 (53:38):
This was I wish we could.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Play it, but we can't because of copyright. But the
quote was never ever believe in yourself and give up.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
I've been saying that for years. I've been saying that
for years, right.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Long, Aisle and I sat on my watch along that
that was literally a Luke Thomas quote.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I've been saying this whole time. It's all feudile, but
you know, finally someone does it on the big stage.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
It was the borderline curtain jerker, but dude readout fuck
Redtanoff took Bain Gustavsen to the wood shed. Now Bain
was not.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
To use sister tattoos that are questionable using any defense,
was just walking into it.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
But Fox Retnikov, excuse me, that name fucks you worse
than Chase. He is now six oho to one in
the UFC, and it looks like his work in att
is making him like a quasi contender.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
His fight against Carlos was at LAO. Is that who
it was? In the last one Long Island.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
Yeah, he arguably lost.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Yeah, he arguably lost that one. It was kind of shitty.
So to me, it's more that Gustason, you know, might
have issues beyond being you know, covered in tattoos that
you would get into prison for joining a a racial gang.
But that aside, it's a nice win and he bulldozed them,
but I don't know exactly what it means. It's a

(54:57):
problem with some of these fights, Like the fights were
all very exciting, but it's like, what does it mean? Well,
it's a nice win. Onto the next kind of a thing?

Speaker 2 (55:03):
All right? Well, who else was there anyone else?

Speaker 1 (55:04):
You want to show the premiums.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Mason Jones, dude, Mason Jones comeback in the.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Mason Jones comeback was absurd. And I will also say
this on the prelim card. Sam Patterson defeating Trey Waters
is not nothing. Also Sam Hughes defeating SHAWNA. Bannon, dude,
I mean bullied her.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yes, that was impressive.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Bully.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
People are like next Stop OnlyFans after that kind of lost,
you know what I mean. I didn't say that, they
did Mma Twitter.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Said that, but that was They probably did say that.
But in case your performance of the Night Winners BSD,
Mason Jones aunt a de Leia and I can't pronounce
his name. Oh we have to say this. Harry Hardwick
losing to is it COWI Cowie? How do you pronounce that?
I don't know, man, your guess, I keep forgetting. But
the Fernandez kid. Harry Hardwick talked a gang of shit
about Anthony Smith and how he's a quitter and the

(55:47):
ship fighter, and it's like, there are criticisms to be
made of the way Smith fought, particularly later in his career,
but he has shown the ability to beat much better people.
And you know it was collect his teeth in the
fifth round against Glover, It's like, maybe, don't talk shit
about those guys until you're on the level.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yeah yeah, yeah, he exit, We'll see that, and have
you seen this shit? He exited in a Paul Pierce
style wheelchair, unfortunately because he got his legs take home
the bank from underneath him. In general, we reference the
Paris crowd just being sensational. I want to see big
pay per view there, like I want to see everything.
How do we get US crowds like that? Is it
just not possible in our culture? Is the fact that

(56:28):
certain foreign spots are so on fire? Is it because
of the love and support for their athletes and their country?
Where in the US team sports is always going to
trump this And there's not like people don't you Americans
don't tend you do get the USA chant, but Americans
aren't tuning into the card going John Jones is from
this country, We're gonna chear the shit out of him.

(56:48):
It's not like that in this country.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
It's not. I don't I don't really know. I do
feel like MMA crowds were a little bit more in
the US enthusiastic, maybe ten or twelve years ago. I
want that, I want yeah, I mean, I mean think
about the ticket prices. Now, dude, who are you getting
at these shows in the States. I don't know what
the prices are like in France. I mean again, they
set a record gate. But like the people that are

(57:10):
coming to these shows, they're not rock ribbed fight fans.
I mean some some of them are there, but there's
a lot of people there. I would just you know,
there because it's expensive and they can afford it.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
The same jealousy I have when I watched the UK
stadium boxing matches and I'm like, I want that us.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Those are specially those are so bad. Not even the
I mean the stadium ones are amazing, but dude, even
some of the arena shows are fucking loud and insane.

Speaker 7 (57:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Yeah, three Arena in Dublin is bananas when you know
the right kinds of people are fighting.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Me damn right there. I was there for Kellam Walsh
and they rust their shit and threw bear into the sky.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Fun card over the weekend. Eleven stoppages and thirteen fights.
Crazy crowd. Yeah, we got some storyline in the rankings,
you know, information which.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Is the main event could have been a little bit
more competitive. It would have felt like a better fitting
end to the card, but Ivov did his job.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yeah, I'm I'm tem Imovov. Now I'm imov I'm that's
my guy. I needed this this performance to come around
completely and be like I believe in him. Now. I'm
not saying that he survives Chamaiv's wrestling. We need to
see that stopped. The Gilbert Burns fight. To me, is
still an aberration. It was still Chamaiah willing to knuckle
up and show what he's made of. But what happens
when he commits to the rest? I mean Kamorrow didn't

(58:15):
Camorrow kind of to a certain degree.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Not everyone's Kamorrow though special.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
That is also a good good point on that one.
All right, let's go into topic number four, which sets
the stage for this Saturday with the return of not
Cha UFC. Are you fired up? That's really what we're
going to get into right now. But this topic right here,
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Luke Thomas, there is a UFC card this Saturday, But
but does it really feel like it should be. Is
this the redheaded stepchild to what TKO is also offering
Saturday Night at Allegiant Stadium live on Netflix with Canelo
versus Crawford. That's the real question right here. This fight

(59:07):
was downgraded from a pay per view originally in Wadalajara, Mexico,
now a fight night in the States in San Antonio,
and the main card will air at six pm Eastern,
so not to clash with the big boxing main event.
Did the promotion luke in your eyes as we head
into all things Diego Lopez versus g and Silva in
the main event, did the promotion make the right call
you believe in changing that start time? Or does this

(59:29):
feel like maybe you could have pushed this fight card
off another week because the UFC is going to be
off next weekend, that's two in September that they're idle.
I just don't know why they had to rush this
in there same day, right almost at the same time
as Canelo craft.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
My guess is they want to use it as a
commercial to get MMA fans to watch Canelo Crawford. That's
my expectation.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah, that's not a bad idea, and I get that
it's September, it's a Mexican Independence Day weekend, so I
understand the time of this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
So think about it rationally. Right, if you're a Mexican
boxing fan or an American boxing fan, you don't need
no Ja UFC to be promoted to you. You're ready
to go, right, and by the way, we'll talk about
it later. I saw all the preview shows, the two
episodes so far. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Actually
I was. I was ready to hate on it, and
I was like, eh, that's pretty good, all right. But
but does this feel like anyway? This is this is

(01:00:22):
a commercial to get the entire UFC audience to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
That, and I get, I get the strategy behind that.
Do you feel like this is an afterthought to a
detriment or it just is what it is. It's a
fight night, a good main event. By the way, just
go enjoy Mexico.

Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
It's clearly an afterthought. Now, it's a strategic afterthought. It's
not a negligence afterthought. So the UFC clearly made a
calculated decision here to make this secondary or in this
particular case, you know, preemptive, almost precursor. I should say,
programming right, it's useful as it's got utility as a

(01:00:58):
setup for something else. So because of that, naturally BC
it can't take pre eminence, it can't take prominence. More
to the point, now, maybe what they should have done
BC is put it a separate weekend. But the problem
is Mexican Independence Day is not closer to next weekend,
or I should say in two weekends from now, it's
closer to the coming weekend. So they're kind of just,

(01:01:21):
you know a little bit working with what the situation
is based on what they had previously built. Remember Dana
White did the first notej a UFC was like, we're
going to do this every year. It's like, okay, well
Canelo also does it every year, And if you're going
to be in these businesses then then they have to
be coordinated. So I understand. But to your point to
go from hey, maybe Volk might fight Yer on this card,
which was not a fight that we want to see,
but you know, a champion defending a belt to now

(01:01:44):
a very very cool main event, but a lesser kind
of prominent card. Clearly there's been a downgrade. I would
just say as a combat sports fan, if you're an
MMA fan, you don't like boxing, you might be a
little annoyed, But as a combat sports fan, I think
Saturday's going to be great, So I'm not I'm not
in the business of complaints.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Our promos or Dana's calling it the biggest day in
combat history.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Yeah, I mean it's not even that's not even closer.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
And they did try a little on that co main event.
It was supposed to be Rob Fon against Chiwiwi's until
an injury pulled Rosas out of there. Now we have
a last minute David Martinez, how would you sort of
grade this card? It is what it is, great main
event and we move on, or.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
What I would say? This fight has a few decent
fights on it. The Gastallum Stultzfuse fight doesn't do much
for me, but I will say that the Hernandez and
Carlos Diga Faheita fight is actually it's amazing right now. Yeah,
which is on the prelims too. Swarz versus A mendo
Lemos is also kind of interesting, and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
She goes from fighting for a title in a co
main event of a pay per view to now fighting
on the prelims against a decent opponent. Limos, is this
like we need you need to prove your way back
up here after that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
I mean, you know, she had a limited showing against
against the champ, and I realized that Limosh is not
the champ. But I could understand whether the UFC might
be like, you know what we need, we need to
rethink this. Yeah, you know, so there's some questions about that.
I will say, in general, it kind of is what
it is. It's a lot of like guys you might
see on Apex cards against you know, Mexican fighters that

(01:03:14):
they have on the roster, and then obviously that you know,
it's kind of set up to be a bit of
a Mexican showcase. And you're right, they did lose chew
We's in that comae, which would have been font versus
chewi We's. That's a big question time for chew We's
which you lose. So again, what you've got is a
sensational main event.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
It's like, no explanation.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Well, the reality is you've got a sensational main event.
I have not one bad thing to say.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Let them give me one best thing. Storyline wise, what
are you most focused on in this? Lopez coming off
a title loss to Volt for the vacant belt, jan
Silva maybe carrying the Fighting Nerds reputation on his back
as he continues to climb. What do you love about this?

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
I think that again we're talking about me. The pecking
order is constantly changing, but right now I think it
would be rational based on the information that we have
to have jay On Silva as maybe the best of
the fighting Nerds, which again, they'll have some wins going forward.
People don't. I mean, it was a bad weekend for them,
but there's no need to turn on just yet. But
I think there's big questions here about both guys exactly

(01:04:14):
how good is jay On Silva And more to the point,
Diego Lopez has some real foundational issues, particularly around cage
cutting and changing some of his game up to what
extent can he level up with the time he has
remaining in his athletic life. These are huge stakes. Also,
you know, both guys are Brazilian, but obviously Diego Lopez
is sort of, you know, repping Mexico based on his

(01:04:35):
associations there, so you got some fun rivalry along the way.
I just think it's one of these fights where it's
like to action oriented fighters somewhat not not entirely proven.
But if Jayon Silva wins this PC, I mean he
could be a real bad matchup for.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Volk and he could be a star because he could
be lives. He surmises his look at me factor. He
is always like saying, look at what I can do.
And what he did against Bryce Mitchell was impressive. Let's
see how impressive Diego Lopez looks in terms of getting
into tip top shape. I saw Mma Twitter loving this.
Can we go to that long holl So you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
He's just saying, yeah, I'm a chef, I'll work in
the kitchen. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Yeah, he's been working. Let that guy cope.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Yeah, okay, well here's the reality.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Everyone's fit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
I don't give a fuck if I mean, does that
has let me ask a question, has him not being
in shape ever been a problem? No?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
But that I feel like when someone looks fucking ripped,
it's like, Okay, they're red, they're they're super serious. Now,
oh yeah, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Yeah, that doesn't that's not what that means. I mean,
it could mean that. I can't say that. It actually
doesn't mean that, but it could just mean he's done
a lot more of the same old ship, in which
case there might be a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I mean, in a second, we're going to show Terrence
Crawford's new look and it's pretty See.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
That's different though, because he's changing weight classes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Very true along Island. Look, you love Fight Night undercards.
I'm sure you're gonna be live streaming in the afternoon
next Saturday. What do you like about this undercard? Anything?

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
I got to give a shout out to my guy,
Jared Gordon, New York's own taking on Rafa Garcia. I
mean that's gonna be a fun fight. Uh Now, this
card is pretty you know, not much to be desired here.
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Wow, not a stake from uh.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
I mean I'll be live for it either way. You
already yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
All right? Hey how did that? How did that trivia
game go out on Friday?

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
I watched the first half. It looked like it was
really exciting.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
It was fun. I mean, I don't want to spoil
it for anyone who didn't see, but yeah, go check
it out, Oscar.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
All right, I'll see maybe I'll advance on and take
on one of these guys. You'll never you have to
wait and see. Uh, that is UFC or excuse me,
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let's go into topic number five. It's going down this
Saturday live on Netflix, the first combat sports event from
a Leegiant Stadium in Las Vegas and the first boxing
event or Zoofa Boxing in their new partnership with Turkey
Ala Chic Saudi Arabia. It is Canelo Alvarez versus Terrence

(01:08:26):
Crawford for the undisputed super middleweight Championship. I mean it's
almost enough said right there, Luke. Big time stakes, big
time star power, big time network, involved in the big
time everything. It's all big time. So when you're looking
at this as I q up my thing here, sorry
about that? We go there, we go. It's here. It's
finally here when we're talking about the fight itself, so

(01:08:49):
little teaser ahead of our Friday preview live in Las Vegas.
What is the sort of biggest question that can only
be answered in the ring that you most want the
answer to right now as we are closing in and
counting down the days to this fight on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
How the punching power affects the two way effect of
the punching power? Does Bud have enough punching power not
just for any old one sixty eight er, but for
a one sixty eight er who has never been down
in his career, for a one sixty eight er who
ate Triple G's best shots, for a one sixty eight

(01:09:24):
er who is if he stopped today, would go into
the Hall of Fame and has one of the most
legendary chins I've ever seen among an active fighter during
my lifetime. On the other hand, as well, to what
extent can Bud absorb the punching power from a Canelo
where even if you want to say Canelo is not
washed but he's certainly off peak, I think it's probably

(01:09:44):
fair to say that he's off.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Peak, or is it selectively off peak?

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Well, we don't know that's part of the issue. But
to what extent can a guy like Bud Weather That
I mean, I do think Bud is not going to
get hit as much necessarily, but he is going to
get hit. It is a boxing fight. To what extent
can he tolerate it? What does it do to him?
Does it change his strategy here or can he ride
with it because he's now put on a considerable amount

(01:10:09):
of bulk. How that plays out BC is central everything.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
That's everything about this fight. That's the thing that we're
all tuning in for. That's the thing we've been talking
about with Bud rebuilding his body, is the layoff of
only fighting once in the last two years and being
off for a full year bad Or is this situation
where he's already one of one in an alien and
it gives him that time incrementally to build up. Remember
he beats Spence in the summer of twenty three at welterweight.

(01:10:32):
He moved up to one fifty four one year later
to take the title from Madrumov. Now an additional year
after that, he's going to make the debut at one
hundred and sixty eight pounds, And this is what the
internet is going nuts about the latest training.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Are in a net going nuts?

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Dude? You have to say for a just recently undisputed
welterweight champion, he's like he's all in on the idea.
Like what did Jamal Charlow do awful in twenty twenty
three when he moved up two weight classes against Canelo? Well,
he he didn't let his hands go, but be he
didn't bring his body up with him. He took it
as a one off. I'll cash the tech, I'll give
it a chance, a backup real quick. But this is

(01:11:08):
Bud saying all or nothing Like in this situation, Looke.
It does tell you something about the mindset, doesn't not.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Yeah, you know what I mean. First of all, the
fact that he can bulk up and still have abs
is actually quite remarkable. And he looks like this is
this is this is like inverse Bomac. Yeah, you know
what I mean, But I no, and I'm serious. Most
of the time when you bulk up, think about it,
you add a bunch of muscle, But in order to
do that, you have to add a bunch of fat
and then you cut it back down. He's able to

(01:11:36):
add bulk and he's going to be close to one
sixty eight with abs like that is that's actually quite remarkable.
I would say that that's the first thing I want
to say, But the more important thing is BC. Here's
what I picked up on that I didn't fully appreciate
until I watch If you've not seen the two there's
only two episodes on Netflix. On Netflix, yes, I watched
them both today. I think Terrence Crawford wants this more.

(01:11:59):
This means more to him with you did you get
that vibe? Did get? Terrence still has a real hardcore
chip on his shoulder because he sort of sees Canelo,
not without good reason, as boxing's golden boy who had
opportunities given to him, where Crawford was never selected for
that or seen in that way, and he's had to
with the same people around him, prove people wrong to

(01:12:22):
get to this opportunity, whereas Canelo, again this is the
kind of the theory of Crawford has had a lot
of those things and has already made it and has
all of these you know, accolades and adulation and just
a way that you know, Canelo lives his life like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
I mean, in the very comfortable, whereas he bought like
nine million dollars watches Watch. Just like that, he seemed
much more comfortable, whereas I got a little bit more
hunger out of Terrence crawl I'll think about it like this.
Canelo didn't want this fight. He definitely didn't want the
Benevida's fight. He also didn't want this fight because he
didn't think he was going to get any credit. Then
the fans started talking about this for you know, a

(01:12:59):
year and a half. Then suddenly Turkey's involved, Dana's involved,
and now there's going to be an insane amount of
money on the table. It's going to be in a
dome in the US, and it's going to be live
on Netflix with no up charge. So for Canelo, we've
said talked about this, you know, in our chats coming in.
I think all of the pressure is on him. Yes,
Terence Crawford is defending that unbeaten record and you know,

(01:13:19):
some degree, defending his place in history with the opportunity
to add on a ton of it. But like odds wise,
most people wise, he's the smaller man. He's not supposed
to win. He's only the smaller man. He's the older
man and more inactive man. Like there are a lot
of things on paper going against him. I agree with you.
I think there's no pressure on Crawford yet because he's

(01:13:40):
been systematically building up his body for this moment and
studying Canalo, and I'm sure he's got the think tank
with oh Mac, andre Ward Chakoor like all the people
that are, you know, on his side of the fence
business wise. And you know, I brought up before what
andre Ward did against Sergey Kovolov when he moved up
in Wighe and they did, you know, they fought for
the light heavy with Champ in those two fights, and

(01:14:01):
that it was in some ways Wards sort of the
smaller man, even though he'd already moved up to that division.
He went in there against the bully and ultimately in
the rematch bullied the bully, got inside on him and
outfought him. There are a lot of people who say, look,
Canelo does almost everything great. What does he do great
fighting back, going backwards? Or did Bevall show you that

(01:14:22):
he doesn't? Now? Look, Terrence Crawford isn't bev All, But
Terrence Crawford is a one of one alien in all
time great that if anyone can do it, he can't
do it. I wonder about that mindset. Canelo has to
defend being the bigger man. Canelo has to defend you know,
he doesn't want Terrence Crawford's all time ranking to be
made on his back, on Canelo's back, right, there's a
lot of pressure on him in that regard. And yes,

(01:14:44):
Bud is hungry as shit. Let's show one more time
the final stare down. Of course we're gonna get updated
ones at the press events this week. But the final
staredown of the three the three spot media tour they
did around the globe, that's the one where Bud got
into Canelo's face and there was actually a shove there. Now,
you can you always say, all that's just gamesmanship, they're
talking it up. But if you notice over press stops

(01:15:04):
two and three, Budd was actively trying to send that
message of like, I'm not here to collect the check.
I'm not here to outbox you, mare to fucking fight you.
Most people you'd be like, all right, that's cool, that's cool.
You know, like Mayweather fights. There's all this talk coming
in the Mayweather's going to do Mayweather, right, He's going
to pick you up, urt and be Mayweather. I like
that in hindsight, how he got right in Canelo's faces

(01:15:26):
actually taller than him is they're not. The size difference
isn't that much. It's not crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
It's not like the natural size difference is a lot.
The amended size difference may not be that much, but
that is not the same as being naturally the same.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
And that doesn't mean I'm picking Crawford. I'm still as
at this point Rydan Canelo is going to win this
and should win this. But it's compelling and maybe that's
why the odds are so close, with Canelos still as
a as a slight favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
I just feel like one thing that didn't really occur
to me until you know, relatively, I guess today, I
suppose but wants to fight Crawford. Excuse me, Bud wants
to fight Canelo in part because I think he still
wants to stick it to the fight game. He still
wants to show boxing. They made the wrong decision in
not getting behind him earlier, that he was improperly ignored

(01:16:17):
and not given an opportunity. He keeps talking about it. Oh,
I just needed an opportunity. I just needed an opportunity.
And this is the biggest opportunity of his entire career.
I still feel like Canelo to him represents everything in
boxing he never got, and he wants to conquer Canelo
to show he was right about himself all along.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
That's our motivation in this media game at times, too, right,
it's like, Oh, you didn't pick me, I'm not your favorite.
I'm gonna look at us now. I understand that, I
do h I well, yeah, sure, you're like you ain't
Crawford in the media. Are we expecting heat this week?

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Between now?

Speaker 8 (01:16:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
You do?

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
You do you think Crawford will continue to send the
message that like, you miscalculated matchup. I'm not like Charlow,
I'm not like these other guys.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
I don't think he's gonna be crazy and go do
something you've never seen him do before. But I definitely
think he might play a little bit of mine games
and is absolutely gonna Crawford whatever else might happen on Saturday.
Crawford is absolutely convinced he's going to win, and I
think he's gonna try and declare that prefight in a
way that is unambiguous.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
All right, What do you make of this interaction between
Turkey Alashik and Terrence Crawford this week on the Treadmill.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Hey, I appreciates you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Everything gets you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
You you must you must stop.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
Yeah, yeah, delivered the job, not a.

Speaker 10 (01:17:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
So some people were playing on the finish of the
job thing, as if the fight is fixed. I think
Turkeys just loves being with the fighters and pumping them up.
But what do you make of Turkey going ot like,
don't retire after. Don't retire after You're going to retire
after you do win or lose walking away?

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
What else is there for you to do?

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Imagine if he wanted and was like, Yo, bene Vita,
do you want to finally do this? That's sixty eight
I'll do.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
I'll tell you this much. I think that even if
Crawford wins, you don't imagine he'd win by Ko. Right,
That just seems so exactly does Okay? What Tim Bradley? Listen,
Tim Bradley might be right. I don't know, we'll see.
But in the very unlikely possibility that he just wipes
Canelo out like he did Spence and Ko's him, Okay,
I might entertain a Benevitez fight under that scenario, But

(01:18:42):
I just that doesn't that doesn't seem to like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
A couple lightning run of questions here, would this fight
be bigger if it was Canelo versus Benavie because you
could argue this should be benevite as a moment right here. Yes,
it would be bigger.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Yeah, it would be properly promoted and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Yes, do you think Benavitez laments this fight happened? I mean,
I know he's going to headline his own ring card. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
He did everything he could. He did everything he could.
You can't make Canelo not duck if he wants to duck,
and Canelo got rich ducking, I mean he did. To
your point, they open it up and he's buying. How
much is this watched? Nine hundred thousand? How much is
this one? One point four million? Yeah? I want them all,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
And again he never normally does that. That's a Floyd
move in the pre fight documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
What I'm saying, I'm telling you he is in the
I'm enjoying this stage of his career and but is
still on the fuck you stage of.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Thirty eighty still do it?

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Yeah, exactly. I got a big different read on their motivation.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
All right, what do you make of about three weeks
ago boxing Twitter was I don't want to say an
upward but they made a lot of conversations about this.
Canelo had leaked footage of training with drawn Boots Ennis
and then that unbeaten Cuban middleweight from PbCO when Lee
Hernandez or the real long, lengthy athletic guy. What does
that tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
That Canelo will come prepared. I thought that that was
a good thing to do. I don't I'm not going
to put Boots on the level of Crawford, but that's
definitely a very good spot partner to have creativity, speed,
you know, to the ability to at least some degree
mimic Crawford. I saw that they were trying to make
a lot of like facial marks and whether they were

(01:20:12):
there or not, and some of that scene photoshop. I
don't know what to say about any of that, but
I'll just say, yeah, look, look, Canelo doesn't come Canelo
was taking fights he shouldn't have taken, but you know,
he came in reasonably prepared for all of them. He
knows what it takes to win, certainly, and I do
think he's taking Crawford more seriously than he did for
like Hime Mungia or something. So yeah, he's definitely I

(01:20:34):
think doing more work this time around.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
This is what I've been struggling with. Is it better
for boxing if Canelo or budw Not that it matters,
but you think about, Okay, what happens, what's a what's
a I mean it is is it better for boxing
that the underdog story happens, the smaller fighter proves his greatness,
because if he beats Canelo, they're going to compare this
to Ray Leonard, Manny Paciol, Roy Jones going up to heavyweight.

(01:20:57):
He'll get his flowers.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
And I'm gonna say that it almost doesn't matter as
long as the fight is really good, because what boxing
needs is for the Canelo Crawford fights to be good,
and then for the Jake Paul versus Tyson or Jake
Paul versus Dravante Davis fights to be obviously the side

(01:21:18):
shows that they are versus maybe, but what I don't
want is for the Jervonte Davis Jake Paul fight to
be somewhat entertaining, and then for this Canelo Crawford fight
to eat shit.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
It's kind of more off the canvas and hurts tanking,
But I will say.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Like what's better for boxing history, Like what's more momentous
Terrence Crawford winning for sure?

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
For sure?

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
I guess a great fight is always the answer in
the circumstance, the possibility of a rematch or the possibility
of unlikely fights that it creates. You know, if an
unlikely result happens, certainly Bud stopping him would be very unlikely,
uh in that regard. But Man, so much to talk about,
and we will of course have a full preview with
you on Friday. I did have a You're not a
big karma guy, but Canelo has been riding.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
And ship for karma for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Canello has been riding good car. Look, he's lost two
legends in Floyd Mayweather and Dmitri Beval and the bevall
one had a huge size this huge but a size disadvantage.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
He looked like the smaller man.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Yeah, but he's also won a ton of close decisions
that could have and in some cases maybe should have
gone the other way. Is there boxing karma chasing him
for not fighting Benavidez and then still fighting Crawford And
could that lead to a disastrous loss?

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Hard for me to believe that the worm's going to
turn now. But this is partly why this fight is
kind of intriguing. Does his luck is? You know, the CJ.
Ross card for even the fight he lost was still bananas.
How did we get there?

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Fourteen fourteen?

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
You know, early Austin Trout scoring I thought was wildly
off the mark, the ARISLANDI Laura fight, the first trip
of G.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Like, a lot of those are close and you can.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
But it's problem, That's exactly right. It's like each one
of those is like, can you see it? But the
first triple G I don't know. But for the rest
of them, can you see a case for Canelo? Not
the Mayweather one either, But you know what I'm saying, Like,
there's a bunch of those. We were like, yeah, of course,
but the fact that everything just kept lining up for
him year after year, controversy after controversy, it was like,
oh my god, this is the Golden Child. But this

(01:23:10):
is why Terrence Crawford's up against it. You got a
rock chin on one side and a judge's favorite on
the other. Brother that is a very unenviable task up
three weight classes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Who do you think Turkey is pulling for for his
future business.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Plans, Crawford winning and then rematching because the Canelo wins,
he'll never give a rematch.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
And finally, if this fight is a success from the
entertainment factor, from the numbers factor of live viewers, and
from the factor of holy shit, TKOZUFA just jumped into
that dome and put on a badass crowd. We know
that UFC is according to Mark Shapiro, looking at two
to three of these a year on Netflix. What would
be the next logical one? Is it Benevitez, better beev

(01:23:54):
or not enough star power?

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Honestly for American boxing fans, I genuinely don't know. I j.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Canelo is sneaking that he's still interested in rematching Bevall
for the light heavyweight championship. If he wins, that would
be on that leflud you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Get Tyson Fury on Netflix. Would American fans still care? Yeah,
this is the problem with the state of the American
boxing establishment, Dude. That's the whole reason why this fight
is kind of weird. Like, Bud and Canelo probably should
not be fighting each other, But if you're talking about
the big stars in American boxing fighting one another. This
is the best thing you can kind of Jerry mander

(01:24:28):
together guys who are very far apart in weight class
and trying to kind of put it all together and
then asking an extraordinary talent in Bud Crawford to just
do the impossible. Yeah, so it's I don't know, I
don't know how they're going to get around this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Yeah, I can't wait. I cannot wait for Saturday night.
I'm excited to be on the ground there, first big
event at Allegiant and Combound.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Are you going to the fight on Saturday? Yes, Okay,
I'm ready.

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What do you got for us? This week? From V
Sanchez Underscore eighty eight between Imovov, Fluffy and R DR
right now, who has the best chance at actually dethroning Hamzad,
not who's gonna get the call, who has the best
chance to beat him?

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
We have limited information, but based on what we have,
I think I'm still gonna say fluffy, but I but
you know these are these are very conditional calls.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
RDR is a Swiss army knife here right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
I just feel like he'll surrender bottom position too much
and Hamzad is too careful about that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
But do you think the im fight is one sided
in the wrong direction for him against JAMAIV?

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
It could be. I think the other thing too about RDR,
Like this is one thing that I do think works
in his favor. If he thought RDR in the same
kind of way he fought DDP right, so maximum control.
I feel like RDR would have some life backdoor submissions.
He would be ready like buggy chokes and shiitriking.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Weird times, like random jumping knees in improper times that land.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Yeah. So the question is if he gets past rdr's guard,
what does RDR do? And I don't know the answer
to that. Whereas I feel like Hernandez is just going
to be ready to scramble at all times, so that
makes him a little bit more interesting to me. May
tire it's the other part two he makes again. We
don't know if the way in which he fought hamzat
DDP was him rationing his offense because he had to

(01:29:31):
ration his offense or just because he was being smart
about it. But I think Fluffy seems like the guy
who's best able to test that theory hard.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Not being a fickle analyst in this game when you're
only seeing guys twice a year. Two fights ago when
Fluffy was ill and his rematch with Brendan Allen were like,
good win, but I'm not seeing the next level stuff.
And then he did what he did to Roman Delede,
which no one's been able to just drag him around
dog walking right now. You're like, yeah, I feel like
you can do that against anybody. So it's it's wild
and that regard long on. Look, who are you picking

(01:30:01):
who can beat him?

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
I'm going Fluffy, But I also weirdly like, I know
Bohalio kind of looked like shit, but I still kind
of put his second or third.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Would you please stop it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
I'm not saying any of them are going to do it.
I'm just saying if we're making a top not him though,
I mean, look what, I just feel like he has
the skills.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
Where were those skills on Saturday? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
I don't know, but yeah, all right, thank.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
You very much. Next question please from Osmatt B seventeen.
Has maxcuse me rank the fighting nerds? Of course, it's Kyo, Hoofy,
Carlos and Jan most likely to fight for a title.
I feel Lord Silva is the leader, but middleweight is
still open for Kyo and Hamzat will need challengers. Luke

(01:30:43):
Let's rank in in terms of most likely or who
will get their quickest.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
I'll go jayon Kyo, Carlos Hoofy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
I mean it's hard to not put Hoofy left at
last after.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
This he looked bad. He looked bad.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
I'm not a Kyo believer. I wasn't before, I'm not after.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
Okay, but he was in a number one contender fight like,
he's not a scrub, he's good.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Who does he beat in besides Cannoneer who had got
knocked out two months earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
By I admit that, you know, there are some issues.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
I'm still not understanding how he was so over hyped
coming in with the layoff with everything.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
Else, there's just like, you know what, it's probably to
me more about lingering doubt about Imovov. Seems to me
like he doesn't quite get the respect he deserves, even
though you know, we were saying, I don't know how
he's gonna do against hamsat but I do think like
the things he is good at. Maybe that's the point, right,
because you've noticed it, you felt it, the things he's

(01:31:40):
good at, Maybe he doesn't quite get enough sure respectful
because you're like, well, why does that match up against Hamzad?
It's like, I don't know, maybe not great, but he's
pretty fucking good.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
You know what if he starts stuffing takedowns, yeah or that,
and then I don't know, I don't know. Do we
feel like we know everything about Silva or we need.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
No, we definitely don't know everything about Silva and all
that clown shit. Yeah, you can do it against Bryce Mitchell.
I don't know how far that's gonna take you up.
The food j.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Protest took a big step forward. Is that big enough
to believe that he will fight for a title?

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
No? Not at one seventy No?

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Okay, okay, we did love he's not.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
He's not completely out of the picture.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
No, and he rebounded nicely from the Gary, very nicely
from the Gary fight. All right, let's go to our
third question from our donks from Mt Booble, you could
be animated into any cartoon?

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
What the fuck kind of question is this?

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
That's a great question. I mean, we were on a
Beavis and Butted t shirt. Wouldn't it be awesome if
we were animated next to them on the coach? Would
you pick the Simpsons here?

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
Luke?

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
You love anime and weird stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
I don't love anime. I I don't know any anime ever.
I've never watched anime. In fact, it was kind of funny.
I went to recently watch my favorite movie ever on
the big screen and the ads were all like like
upcoming anime movies, and I'm like, I don't have even
the slightest fucking interest in anything. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
I took Eyes to Jaws in three D for the
fiftieth anniversary, okay, and it was an incredible experience. And
during the same previews, the same anime one comes on
me and he taps me on the shoulder and goes dead.
Who would ever pay money to come sit and watch this.
And this is a kid who watches almost anything.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
And I'm just like, honest like the Japanese seem to
love it. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Mma fans love anime too, So I'm not trying.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
To shore by the way, I'm not saying anime is bad.
I'm just saying I don't watch it all right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
I used to love to get to come home from
the bar and get real high and watch Space ghosts
Coast to Coast, but that has like the mixture of
real people with the animal. I'd like to be a
real person on Do you remember Space Ghost That was cool?

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Yeah, of course, you know what, Honestly, my favorite cartoon
is maybe not favorite. One of my favorite cartoons the
nineties cartoon the Batman series. Do you remember what it
was called? It was like very cleanly animated.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Loosely here, I'm trying to think back.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
It was it was. It was obviously episodic. Each episode
is about twenty minutes thirty minutes or so. I just
remember thinking that those were so well done, so perfectly told.
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
I felt the same way about eighties g I Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
That was a bad ass card I did, like, do
you remember Bionic six. Yes, Bionic six.

Speaker 11 (01:34:11):
We have together Las super Family. They're so very proud
to be the Bionic six.

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
That thing was pulled that from the rare.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Oh you got any more questions, booble, Let's go from
Emery Nick six. Who is the most intimidating fighter that
you have ever interact? That's a great question because sometimes
you do feel that, oh shit, I have to sharpen
my questions a little bit because this, I mean, I
will say this covering crime. Floyd he always made he

(01:34:47):
was always made it welcome to the media, but he
was always sharp and like my first question I asked
to him at Canelo, uh, Floyd Canelo on the stage
after the press conference. I remember I was like run
in my mouth, like hey, Floyd, who are you gonna fight?
If you're gonna beat this? And he stopped and he goes,
who are you? You must be new here, and everybody's laughing,
and I'm like and he goes, you don't know how

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we do this?

Speaker 6 (01:35:09):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
We take it one fight at a time and put
all the focus on this opponent, so I don't even
care who I'm gonna be fighting next, and like, just shit,
on me, and I was intimidated. I'm like, okay, taking
out right here, I'll take a big.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
L I'm trying to think who I was the most intimidated.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
But sometimes they physically intimidate you because of their like
quasi craziness, like well they snap on you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Yeah. I would say the most I've ever been intimidated
was not like I've interviewed like you know, big heavyweights
like Ben Rothwell and stuff like that, but they were
pretty friendly. Honestly. The most I've ever flubbed because I
was trying to, you know, focus but it was hard.
Was Prime Lucas Matisse. Really yeah, Prime Lucas Matisse. I

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interviewed him before the Danny Garcia fight that was on
that man with a Canelo card, and I had a
hard time getting going because he was just giving me
this death stare. The until you lost that fight too,
but he was giving me the death stare during that
and I was a little bit like.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Stop taking our Latin women body for days.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
Over here, you know. So that one was a little tough,
But other than that, I.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Would say Mike Perry. I interviewed him once. I remember
a pre not or now pre COVID UFC media days
when you could wait in line and get your one
on one with the person. And I was being funny
and I was asking him about face tattoos, and like
I could tell he's calculating his head. Is this guy
making fun of me?

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Or is he whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
And then like there was one moment where he kind
of just was like what did you say? And I
was Serge Cove left too. One time. I was like,
your wife and kids must be so happy, and he
thought I he thought I asked him something inappropriate about
his wife, and he was like would you and he
got like all mad and he stood up.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
GSP got mad at me once because he misunderstood me.
But I wasn't intimidated. I was more just like trying
to explain to him, like I did not meet that
did not You're taking it wrong, yes, which he actually
listened to.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
So did you ever meet Kimbo?

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
I interviewed Kimbo?

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Was it intimidating because I know people say he's a
great dude, but like.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
He's so he was looking big and larger than life,
and he came in with an entourage, so like, you know,
you have to be ready to go. But honestly, dude.
By the time I was interviewing, Kimbo was his belatour days.
He was so fucking friendly.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
That's all you hear from everyone, is I do?

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
He was so friendly and he Yeah, no, I was
not intimidated by Kimball because he wouldn't let you be
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Yeah, I'm with you on that one. Very hey, good
questions today from these people.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
Yeah, very good question. That's it long Island, right, Wait?

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
One more from Flannels and JITs the aforementioned what are
your favorite for? This is the best season of the four.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
This is the fannel.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Technically it's a fall activity. I mean, do you get
pumped up for punkin pumpkin everything? Do you like to
go pick out?

Speaker 6 (01:37:43):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Okay? I love backyard fires with.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
A back Okay, fires in the crisp cold air, like
not cold air, but cool air are phenomenal. Those are phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
Smell of the leaves falling, I mean, it's a New
England thing.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
But like the pumpkin beer ship. I'm not into the
until I'm not even I don't but it doesn't change
my order at Starbucks.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
But I'm in the I don't go to college games anymore.
But like, I love that feeling of going to a big,
high score college game.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
The NFL fall is the king of all seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
It is like and you know that high school and
college feel. It's different from the pros. It's just more
of like traditional feel of like like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
The day drinking feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
Being at the tailgate, being out, you know, the smell.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
And just being you know, having a nice hoodie on
with friends.

Speaker 8 (01:38:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
Yeah, I admit that. That's a fun time Thanksgiving us.
What's your favorite fall activity? Hitting the ball outside?

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
That's a year round activity. Just going to like a
brewery or something, you know, rocking a hoodie.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
Yeah, hoodies are not You've got We've got Black Liver
Society hoodies.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
Morning was it Morning Combat Dot Shop?

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Check that ish out right there? All right, great question
there is. You get your get your exclusives for September
right now at Morning Combat Dot Shop. You want to
you want to see how you fit in this check
it out. Okay, mix and match the colors. Thank you
very much. That's all for that fan part of it.
We've got one final segment that's for the people by
one person though, this man, the man myself who scours

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the globe every Sunday on the Internet for the good,
the bad, the ugly, the highs and lows, the in betweens,
from combat sports and beyond. These are weird videos meant
to make Luke Thomas emote. Have you seen this shit?

Speaker 6 (01:39:28):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
If I may, I emote. The problem is that I
often have silly emotions. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
but it's not true that I don't emote.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
Nor this segment is meant to produce your emotion.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
But like independent of this segment is no you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
The problem is you if whatever you're going through it
comes out onto us, so you emote all over us.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
Yes, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
True, this show is successful based on the patterns of
Luke's mood. But we've come to accept that UFC was
in Paris, and I know it's the end days for
ESPN Plus, but here's your ESPN Plus highlight the night
from Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
Fuck. I can't wait. I can't fucking wait till UFC
dumps these turds. Please don't buy Fight Past ESPN, Please
please stay the fuck out of m m A.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
I was an editorial from Luke Thomas, but that was rough.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
On Saturday, my feed went several times.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
Yeah, uh, this was what was happening in the crowd
when Mauricio Hoofy got subbed by BSD. Let's watch the
interaction here from Ian Gary and Carlos Protest.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
This is the Hoofie fight.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
A lot of people are criticizing Layla Gary's wife for
filming all this and putting it on the internet. Why
because like Protest was crying over the flag.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
Okay, Tom was filming his stuff. Are we mad at
him too?

Speaker 6 (01:40:49):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
No, then what would be I'm asking. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:40:52):
I'm just I'm just saying, you don't have Tom wasn't consoling,
you know, a teammate of someone who just lost who
he also fought, and kind of putting like a little buddy.

Speaker 6 (01:41:00):
Ye.

Speaker 8 (01:41:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
It seemed a little more inauthentic to you. Yeah yeah, okay,
come buy that a little bit. I'll just say this.
I've seen so many UFC fighters now they show up
and they get the cage side seats and then they
have a guy filming them for reaction stuff. It's like,
I don't I mean, it's not content for me, but
they all seem to do it. I guess I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
Yeah, that's true. They even have the announcer cam on
the UFC for the announcers to go sick bananas.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
Yeah. They did it for me too at xFC, Like
in case you go bananas, will use it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
They saw one time when you were like, and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
I'm like, I'm I'm I have seventy five thousand milligrams
of THHC and my tummy right very much. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
The afore mentioned Harry Hardprick made his UFC debut on
short noticing all right, got the trying to HiPE up
the crowd with the wheelchair. It just didn't work, Luke,
He got the shit kicked.

Speaker 1 (01:41:44):
Out of the y again. Like, I get it, young guys,
I've done it well. Not professional fighting, but you know,
let in your mouth say things about you that you
may think are true and then reality comes crashing down
on you and you have to rethink it. Let's see
where he goes from here. But that was not necess
a great.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Look and the lot of dunking on the fighting nerds,
including Islam Mahach have one of the pound for pound
best train. More speak less, that's the key to success
and win or lose whof he has zero grappling.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
I mean if zero is a strong word, but you
know the spirit of this is pretty correct.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
Actually all right, that was UFC Paris. Topic number two
is regional mma.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
Where, of course, Luke, anything can happen.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Let's go to Prime Fighting League.

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
What's up with the lime Green? All fucking hell? What
are the rules in this age?

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
There we go, it's Melee toime.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
Well, you know what, there's a cyrillic alphabet.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
Look at this. This is nuts. These guys are all calm, like, yeah,
maybe we should look at guy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
His phone right away, he's like, I'm just gonna film
this shit. Fuck you, I'm got on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
I don't know what country that is. I don't know
if it's sponsored by Prime Energy Drink.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
I don't know any I don't know either.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
You go, Luke, I'm a couple of late months late
in posting this because I didn't see the DM. We
have an MK fan named Noah Gashoh Okay g a
s h O. Noah Gash Show, who fought in his
pro debut for LFA. He's the one in the blue
watch this, oh or. I don't know if that's his
pro debut, but it's his LFA debut and got the

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finish dude. We shot out our people like Christian Deguero
about Noah gashow right.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
There amazing and he rocks with MK so he can
actually do some stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
And we also had an interesting way on the regional
level to break a submission. Did you see this ship, Luke?
The guy's in a head.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
Scissors there, it's a triangles.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
Sure, and he tickles the foot to get out of it,
and it works. You see the ship. It made him
loose in the position. The guy ended up getting out.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
Oh he did he?

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
Yeah. Most people ask why doesn't why don't people just tickle?
And the answer, yeshole right, is that it doesn't work,
but maybe there are circumstances where it does.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Look, if I'm getting choked out, I'm changing someone's oil.
That's my last ditch effort.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
Wouldn't you just be grabbing the dick and balls?

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
No, there's a cup, you know. I mean, not that
I'm really interested in anything to get up under that. Okay, okay, Luke.
Throw back to twenty twenty three when Marseille and afc
Ajax fought or sorry played soccerers and look at this
Bob Marley thing from the fans.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
That is so good. That is that is amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
I hope that's real weed and everyone's getting high. They'd
be great.

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
I get a contact high at the game. Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
We never played this already in the past, but I
had to bring it back one more time. Your SoundBite
of the week comes from Australian TV from Luke Oseda's
dead question does the video I have a look? Let's
been to say when we made those changes, we didn't
focus enough on taste. So to overcome that, we've listened
to consumers and we've decided to bring back that ki
we taste.

Speaker 1 (01:44:46):
What is the question? We taste?

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
Yes, smell?

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
That's all right, Yeah, that's packing up everybody. The rest
of the show will.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
Sorry. That was in as happen to have her contact
New Zealand that's her schedule moving forward though, shout out
to be in touch. Yeah wow, that was an interesting
take right there. Your license plate of the week. I'm
ordering this currently for Connecticut Lesbiar route as Luke continues
to hound me for the car. Won't even drive anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
My kids closer am to fire Looke.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
Signs signs everywhere, their signs blocking up the scenery and
alerting you to what's up ahead?

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
Huge boobs ahead, I bet there are yep.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
Let's go over to the car wash. Somebody get me
this address.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
Please car wash, we give the best hand job in town.
Well that's where I'm taking my vehicle.

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
Speaking of signs, they bet this fella, Steve six bucks
that he couldn't jump over the sign. Who are you
taking here? Let's see here we go making six bucks
right here and clear that, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
Clear that he is about to go face first to
get to the pavement.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
Six Come on, Steve, you can do it.

Speaker 11 (01:46:07):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
He's dressed like every white guy in the South. Of course,
of course, about the most predictable thing, Luca.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
Anything happened in regional Mma can also happen in South
American concerts. This is Robert Plant of led Zeppelin fame,
live on stage in Buenos Watch this coming out tonight.
Nice full work, right, it's like eighty. That's not bad man.

(01:46:45):
Actually the security guard ran him into him.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
Yeah, security guard did, like the like the the Kravmaga
bat constructor a bit, but it worked, actually all.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
Right, Lucas, time to rate that tat one to ten
ten being artistically beautiful. Here's the WWF I that's a
zero out of eight billion.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
That is the worst thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
You wouldn't just give it for the actual quality of
the tat at least give it even.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
The quality has got some issues. That is horrendous.

Speaker 7 (01:47:13):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
All right, Honestly, if you're a tattoo artist and your
client is asking for that, maybe decline the money.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
All right? What about this next one?

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Luke one to ten, that's a that's that's a solid eight. Okay,
line work is in fact quite good.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
Shout out to that night circum size. We're let to
go to the Dana White Contender series. I don't know
the fellow's name, but tattoo on tat with the scarface.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
They were they were using the R word to describe
They were using the R word to describe his tattoos
on on social media, the not nice R word, you know,
the the anyway, Well, here's what I'll say. Can you
go back to the tattoo over his right side with
the al pacino one is not super poorly done. The

(01:47:59):
one over his left is much more questionable. And the
overall I would say artistic aesthetic is as low as
it gets okay, So, yeah, these are not They're not
terrible tattoos necessarily, although some of them are. But the
artistic quality is extremely all right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
The balance between artistic quality and placement is interesting on
this last one representing Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
So this will be what they call new school for
a new school tattoo, it is quite good.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
But you got to wear that on the side.

Speaker 1 (01:48:32):
You gotta wear it on the side of your motherfucking head.
And that's a nine negative nine billion out of one
hundred billions.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
Oh right, there you go, uh luke, let's go to
the old ball field here in Major League Baseball watch
the specifics of this tag by show Hey Otani.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
Yeah, right on the balls. What's what you get for
being in Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
That's what I'm talking about, right there, shout out to show, Hey,
they got they got them doing everything.

Speaker 7 (01:48:58):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
I'm not asking a stupid question, Like I realized that
that's what makes him famous was the pitching, and but
I thought that they were going to retire him from
pitching because he's such.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
A good I don't want bas balted under.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
I guess I forgot about I guess I only.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
Watch moments like this in the crowd. Watch this, Luke,
I go.

Speaker 1 (01:49:16):
For one of them too. It's it. What's that? I'm sorry?

Speaker 4 (01:49:20):
What it's it's yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:49:25):
For the folks at home, I on behalf of Chris carry.
I will apologize. Okay, you are a handful, Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
Let me tell you that's a fully right there, Luke. Wow,
that's assault, brother, that is uh, that is something. Look
we call the next one, Glizzie in the tramp.

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
They were on TV and come over here. I'm kind
of going, lady in the tramp. Yeah, that's right. And
then they find out that everybody's seen them on TV. Yes,
had blowing up. I support this, Come on, send them
both to that prison. Throw away the key most.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
Of our viewers streams that you and I would meet
in the middle on a glissie.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
How much would you have to get paid to do that?

Speaker 8 (01:50:12):
A lot?

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
Also throwback alert. Best MLB interview ever comes after the
Houston Astro is one of the recent World Series wins.

Speaker 6 (01:50:22):
What do you have to say to everyone who still
considers the astros.

Speaker 4 (01:50:26):
Cheaters as television?

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
Anything?

Speaker 1 (01:50:34):
That's right? It's like regional MMA.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
It's a ten out of ten delivery right there? Wow? Okay,
let's go to the restaurant. Here's an HR video that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:50:45):
You may thought that was funny, but what if he
was the other way around?

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
Fire them both, send them to Lucas.

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
Time to play my favorite sub game of would you
eat it?

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
You actually sent me this? This is in Asia the
toilet restaurant.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
I did send you. This restaurant in Taiwan, the real place.
Everything is ship themed.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
Would you eat there?

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
I'm afraid to tell you the answer is yes.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
Dude, you drink out of a freaking travel yeah, travel
urin like my grandfather used to carry those in the
truck with it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
I would at least try. Also, when you weren't looking,
I would urinate in your food.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
This is interesting, all right? Next, Luke, would you eat
the Jalen Brunson meatloaf?

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
I know this is not racist, but it feels that way. Okay,
what the fuck? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
If not that one? Would you eat the bee bloaf?

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
There's there's some people that need to go to jail
in this country.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Yeah, I think the one who puts these clips together.
Tough week for toasters in New York City suck the
fucking toaster.

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
I love New York. I love New York, dude, New
York is the fucking best.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
Oh, I love New York. Also a tough week for bullfighting.
I don't usually put these highlights in, but only if
the humans die.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Brother, Yeah, oh he did the old to a tongue
of ilo a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Watch this reporter get a little too close to the action, luke.

Speaker 4 (01:52:29):
Yea yeah, yeah, yeah yea.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Oh fuck no, dude, someone's dying. Oh no, someone's dying.
Someone's dying. Someone's dying.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
Little gore up the a hole there, Wow, come back
from more? Do you have a thong that I do?

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
Bro? Every time the bull wins, I cheer.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
What about when the bull's going up against the bbls,
you still cheer?

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
That's kiss by kiss base.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Let's check it out, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
What the fuck? What are we doing here? Dude? Also,
these aren't bbls, These are just these are just tears.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
Somebody get safety. Oh boys, she'll never she'll never conceive again. Wow,
that was a horn right to the hornet.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Get on your feet. Look how look how immobile these
people are? Yeah? Wow, bro, you will never realize how
out of shape Americans are until you write Amtrak. I've
said it a million times until you write Amtrak and
ladies have to put their luggage over their head. Brother,
when I tell you that the women of America cannot
do it, I am not exaggerating.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
Two to three months and Dakastan, they'll fix that. Let's
keep it going. Kids, do the darnedest things. You can
speak to Grandma, but don't be pulling on her parts.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
All right, Okay, that's theft.

Speaker 2 (01:53:49):
That's theft that scared him for life. Look at that face.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
All right. Also, you never know who you'll meet or
what you'll meet at a train station. Let's go to
pick a down. I know what the fuck you'll meet
Piccadilly in London. That's a circus.

Speaker 10 (01:54:02):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's sanitary. And I bet he smells delightful.
You need you know what he needs? Mando.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Also, Luke, have you ever met Tommy nunchunks? This guy bangs.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
Ship.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
Yeah yeah, tom.

Speaker 1 (01:54:28):
Yo, this motherfucker f bro. This guy doesn't need a
condom at all.

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
I should bring him to a party.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
Hell yeah, bringing him to a party.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
We got to get this guy's information.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
This guy is a hero line.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Imagine just having him sitting here at every show, just
being like.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
Making points and he's just doing sweet. Finally, why can't
you do that long Island, Luke, you got no talent.

Speaker 4 (01:54:52):
You guys have never asked me to show you my nunchucks.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
Yea, well, now point Finally, we have one more for you.
They're innovating on the cars. They're giving you like up,
you know, new gadgets and stuff. Would would this solve
everything for you?

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
All right? Opens up? Is that a cooler or a commode?
A commode? This would solve any enormous amount of problems
that I have. And then I would just dave Matthews bandit.
You know what they did with the tour bus and
they just throw their motherfucker out.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
Yeah, that's all the ship we can this week, as
long as I get above that.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
You know what, I can't believe we went all this time.
We did see women get absolutely mauled by animals, but
we did not see any nine to eleven jokes.

Speaker 5 (01:55:31):
And for that, I.

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
One more week without being fired.

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
Really lives another day.

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
They get bitter about the Dale senior je.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
He is the uh yeah, he's everything.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
I don't get better about him. Thank you, very good,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
I'll be hitting the road. Uh so will Luke. We'll
see you in Vegas on Friday eleven a m. Eastern
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(01:56:10):
you got anything to plug?

Speaker 4 (01:56:12):
Yeah, I'll be doing a watch along for Contender series tomorrow.
New prop Quiz this week. I didn't break to everything, guys,
full card watch along both on Saturday Canell and j
a UFC.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
Let's go this channel, man Card minute on fire at
the moment, right, what do you think?

Speaker 6 (01:56:25):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
Prop Quiz is changing the game.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
I like prop Quiz, but you know him going live
for the prelims of No Cha UFC is just absolute
negligence as a boyfriend on your part so far?

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
Who's number one on the prop Quiz power rankings? Who's
the most Mike Keck is being fitted number one?

Speaker 4 (01:56:42):
Pound for pound?

Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
Who's last?

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
Luke?

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Might be me?

Speaker 4 (01:56:46):
Last of the winners or last of the losers?

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
Who's just been the worst contestants.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
I think it's been jet Actually.

Speaker 2 (01:56:51):
Wow, how much for that law degree?

Speaker 1 (01:56:53):
There you go, Yeah, he got that motherfucker from the
University of Somolar.

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(01:57:40):
Shout out to everybody making this engine. Hum all right?
For Ken and the Deer who don't get as much love,
I mean, can we just have them come out and
just do copious wouns of drugs to go?

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
Why can't Why can't either Can Ornader do nunchuck ship
for us? Actually?

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
Can can have that?

Speaker 1 (01:57:54):
Like just he measure if you had, like why can't
de here we go? He's here we go? Maybe Nader
is the master of the nunchucks. It doesn't look like it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
It didn't have I mean, this wasn't one of those deals. Please,
this really was it? Okay? I just I'm a big
Ken fan.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
We all are.

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
That's morning combat for Monday. Take care of yourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:58:15):
We're out of here. Thank you.

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