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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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to bun. Oh yeah, get up, get going. It's Friday

(00:40):
in your face, hoole, It's morning combat breaking down UFC
Perth like nobody's business. Welcome in Friday, September twenty sixth
of the twenty fives. I am your Suburban Commander Commando.
Sorry alright, p Terry, It's Brian Campbell. I havn't direct
from the Hartford suburbs. The man next to me on
the screen is there in the nation's capital. He's fought

(01:02):
through the wars of technical difficulties. His middle name is Franklin.
It's Luke Thomas.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Everybody, Yeah, they just don't end. They don't end. I
thought I had it figured out. Yesterday's live chat went
mostly okay but not perfect, and then today was another disaster.
So I don't know what the fuck is happening to you.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
You know, the thing is like how Irvin Johnson could
never shake off the HIV. I'd love you to shake
off these technical issues as part of your life.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, you know what, I thought I was going to
be able to solve it. So we did a bunch
of tests. This guy helped me out at MK talk
by the way, and by the way, there were two
problems and one he has definitely fixed, so like that's
the good news. But the one about the internet connectivity,
we thought, after troubleshooting a million times, that it was
the cable I was running, and so I replaced the
whole cable, which, by the way, I have to go

(01:50):
through all of my rooms and then understuff to do,
and it didn't work this morning, so that means I
got to take my computer in for search.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
You know, I just love that you kept your composure
through it, Luke, you only yelled at oh, there.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Was a few bombs. Let's be serious. There was a
few f bombs along the way. Brother, you understand what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Gotcha. Hey, We're gonna have a fun show for you today,
getting it ready for UFC Perth, whether the crowds show
up on the Western Rim or not. We're also going
to look back at this weird and wacky Jake Paul
Jervonte Davis, or tackle the top couple other topics, and
then get ready for a little fan Friday as we
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Speaker 4 (04:00):
Oh See Rules super Bowl the Alsie Rules Grand Final.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
It's tonight in the States, roughly twelve hours from now,
thirteen hours from now. My dad's team Geelong cats in it.
Let's go Geelong. Also Pop Quiz Finale BC in the
Championship versus Shack dropping after MK today, So tune into that.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
You gotta find out what happens there. Will b C
get one hundred one in cash for his Delta eight
habits or not? That's what we're there. That's why we're
tuning in, right, That's why people do it. I've taken
out Thomas, I've taken out Heck, can I take out
the man who texts too much? We'll find out there, Luke,
how is like your actual life over there in the

(04:37):
Nation's capital. You you're helping them set up the early
blueprints for the White House.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Or what we know. Yeah, I mean, like most days
be see teetering on the edge. Yeah, Tuki had the
flu the last two days. So it's been multiple nights
of vomiting in the middle of the night and I
haven't slept right in quite some time, which is not new,
but I mean it's been like especially bad. She had
to get up last night at twelve twenty two forty

(05:05):
five and then four thirty one I checked Fox. So
I'm tired. But you know what, I'm not in a
bad mood.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
But you know, like I'm not a bad mood. This
is my default everybody.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
How Yeah, this is just just another normal day. So
that port has kind of sucked. But the good news
is she was able. She felt fine this morning, so
we sent her back to school. The doctor gave her
clearance yesterday even though she had some issues last night.
But whatever, I don't know, Luke.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I know the best way to cure your ills. It's
a little track by the American rock band Creed called
One Last Breath. It seems to fix everything.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, I was gonna say, does this involve me putting
my mouth over the business end of a shotgun, because
I've thought about that too. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
It's not acceptable talk on this show today or ever.
All right, so we might as well do it. Since
we're running late, let's get into it right off the top.
It's topic number one. We're going to set the stage
for Saturday's UFC Fight Night in Perth. Let's do it
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data that won't slow you down. This might not be
the deepest fight night card we've ever seen. Hecket could
be in. It could be in discussion for one of
the worst. But how about this main event two ranked
light heavyweights as Carlos Olberg brings his eight fight win

(06:29):
streak and his number three ranking to the table looking
for a breakthrough win to grant him a title shot
against who. How about one Dominic Reyes, who has shaken
off the four fight losing streak, the three devastating KOs
the heartbreak of not getting his hand raised against John
Jones back in twenty twenty to win three consecutive fights,

(06:52):
all by stoppage, all by against ranked opponents, and now
Reyes comes in at number seven. Luke Thomas, this is
a very very even matchup. In fact, they're the same height,
they're the same reach, they're eighteen months apart in age,
but that experience gap is really the thing that's separating them.
How much do you believe that'll play a role in

(07:14):
who wins on Saturday?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Hmm, it's a great I man, it's a great question.
That's a great question. You know, normally I have a
clearer sense about these things. Well, I guess what I
would say is, in this case, I mean, basice, let
me just sort of say where I'm going with this.
Usually when I match up these fighters in prep for

(07:40):
today's show or any Friday show, will read like preview
the fights. I start first with like technique and how
they match up in style versus style, and then I
sort of incorporate these other considerations a little bit later,
although they can sometimes be the most pivotal ones, but
I just tend to start there, and with that in mind,
I guess what I would say is one thing I've
seen on tape with Reyes more recently is his defense

(08:03):
has definitely gotten better. I think both getting into and
out of punching range is better, although still a little
reckless at times, but clinch breaking and in particular I'm
gonna say, circling or just having a rear hand up
on this side, just better defensive responsibility through different ranges

(08:28):
and phases of where he's fighting. You asking about experience,
I'm telling you that is experience. I'm telling you this
is a guy when he got you know, four losses
in a row, three by essentially stoppage KO, he had
to learn a very painful lesson. There were, yes, he
was fighting very good guys with the majority of that time,
but the truth is also his defensive responsibility was lax.

(08:48):
It was not good enough, and he has absolutely tightened
that up. And I think, you know, this is also
a guy who probably realizes how many more pressing pushes
to the top. Am I gonna get? Like if this
falls apart? You know, he still has has a nice
win streak overall, but you know, like it's a little
do or die for him. So I think that the
broader circumstances and then the painful lessons he's had to

(09:12):
learn to bring him to this spot. I think those
things as an experience example, will help him help his
chances on Friday.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, no question about it. He's been literally through hell
and back. This has the potential to be a very good,
feel good story. And let's not forget these two were
originally scheduled to fight in January of twenty twenty four,
which was following a fifteen month layoff which followed that
four fight losing streak for Reyes. Alberg pulled out with
an injury. They tried to get it done two months later,

(09:43):
Reyes pulled out, So talk about a flipping of fortunes here.
Had Reyes taken that fight, then he may have been
fighting for his job against a rising up and comer
and who could be in anyone's ladies dms at any
point in Olburg. Yet instead this fight is happening eighteen
months later, where it's a quasi number one contender fight
based upon what happens in this division, with not just

(10:05):
the title being at stake in next week's rematch at
UFC three twenty in the main event, But how about
that Yearie versus Khalil fight also on the card that
could have another say into who gets the title shots.
So the maturation as Reggie Jackson enters the picture has
been key, so much so that I ordered off the
menu here Luke. I had an interview with Don Reyes

(10:26):
this week on the Brian Campbell Experience where we actually
got real with each other about his personal growth over
the last few years and what it has been like
to shake off that thing that's been in his head
for four years, that thing that says, I know I
beat John Jones. What if I actually got my hand raised?
Where would I be now? Getting through that was a

(10:46):
big part of his maturation. Here's Reyes talking about what
he did experience and learn while going through hell and back.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
Yeah, the battle education, it's incredible. I've matured ridibly as
a fighter. Like my approach is completely different. My my
my stress is a lot less. I don't stress out
about things like I did when I was younger.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
As a fighter, worried about every little thing. I'm I
know that I don't have to be great on every
training session. I got to be great on fight night,
you know.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
So that helps with the mind to keep you from
going up and down so much.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
It kind of keeps me at a level base.

Speaker 6 (11:27):
Obviously, we film everything and keep everything and obviously be
able to see exactly where I'm at objectively versus how
I'm feeling, and it's I'm right on. I'm not back.
I better Like I'm getting better every day. It's crazy
that I'm getting better almost every single day. It's it's
a trippy thing to see at this how long I've

(11:48):
been doing it. I've been in the UFC for nine
years and I'm getting better every day. I look at
myself as a younger fighter, I'm like I would have
smoked that kid, you know, Like it's fricking trippy, man,
But you know, it all happens as he should. I'm
exactly where I should be mentally. It's all about gratitude.
It's all about you know, this isn't gonna last forever. Man,

(12:09):
It's you know, sooner than later, it's all gonna be over.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Look, the proof has been in the put in for
him with three consecutive wins, as we mentioned, Dustin, Jacoby,
Anthony Smith and then most recently they're it's slipping. It's
been the biggest one there slipping my mind, Nakida cry Off,
thank you very much. In fact, we've got a graphic
to show this incredible comeback story. It definitely feels good

(12:36):
when you see that four pack of losses. No one
really holds the John Jones one, of course against him,
and then the three wins, Luke, it's one thing to say,
I'm back mentally, I'm back physically, I'm better than ever
from what you've seen in the past three fights. Is
the thirty five year old version of Dom reyis as
good or better as the man who walked in there
and did that over five rounds to John Jones.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, it's a great question. He's not as young, obviously,
and this newer version has many more miles as a
consequence of not just fighting all that time, but of
course the four losses and then in particular the three
devastating knockouts, and to that point, if you put back
up that graphic very quickly, if you can alng onland Luke,

(13:17):
if you'll notice here look at Reyes's record. So you
have the losses to Jones, Bluhovich, and Prahaschka, all former champions,
and then the loss to Span That was the one
to me, BC that was really thank you very much,
that to really demoralizing. That was the one where you're
like well, damn, this is a different ballgame now. I mean,
it's one thing to lose to champions, but this is

(13:38):
a separate scenario. What I would say, though, is in
terms of like asking is he better I already kind
of alluded to it. I think the defense is certainly
much better. I also just think the overall versatility of
whether he has to press or receive in terms of
what the opponent is doing, He's been very very good
about that. He was always pretty good at like countering pressure.

(13:59):
But I think, you know, in general, he's been a
bit better about having two way traffic offensively. So yes,
I agree. I think technically as a fighter he is
vastly improved, and especially and noticeably on the defensive end.
You just can't discount though that he's fighting at Carlos Olberg,
who I would consider limited but dangerous as a counterpuncher,
heavy handed and certainly the faster of the two, less experienced,

(14:23):
as you already alluded to, and that will potentially make
a difference. But there are some the very real strengths
that Olberg possesses are still a very real threat to
the known weaknesses at this point of Reyes.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, I think that's very well said. And as we
look at the odds here from our friends at DraftKings,
you have Dominic Reyis as a plus two zero five underdog,
Carlos Olberg as a minus two fifty favorite. I think
look as Olberg beating the same level of competition at
his best as Reyes. No, I don't discount these three
wins from Reyes. There's almost, like, I mean, am I

(15:01):
crazy here? Luke? There's almost like a Tim Tebow Jeremy
Lynn esque like buzz and spirit that's carrying Reyes to
these wins, Like we're kind of all sharing for him,
whether we admit it or not. I just don't know
if it can keep getting the win, because I do
wonder if Olberg lines him up and starts landing clean,

(15:21):
will we be back where we were on that losing streak.
I do understand what Olberg told me about not stressing
on things anymore, letting it flow. That'll free him, no
question about it. And you brought up that span lost.
Don't forget that was his complete reinvention opportunity when he
moved his camp to Glover to Shias in Connecticut with
Alex Pereira and to go out there against span who

(15:42):
would go on to lose his next three fights after
that and lose that devastatingly. I mean, I thought his
career was over at that point. So it's already a
win win to get to this exact point where he is.
But before we run Reyes talking about the true stakes,
I just want to get your opinion. Is this, in
your eyes, a potential Number one Contenders fight? If Reyes

(16:04):
upsets Olberg on Saturday? Could you see him actually getting
that call to be back in that spot, to run
back the demoralizing memories of not only getting finished in
the vacant title fight against Blahovich, but not getting his
hand raised in that John Jones fight. When what fourteen
of twenty one Cage Side media members thirty one?

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yes, I mean, I don't know if you want to
do an official prediction, but I mean we haven't really
talked about it, but I think this is an important
point to talk about it in using this question, which is,
you know, this is actually a pretty interesting matchup PC.
So I went back and I looked at this pop
quiz BC who was the last south paw? Because that's
what Reyes is, Who was the last southpaw that Carlos Olberg.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Faced no idea off the top of my donk.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Okay, the last one that I could find unless my
record keeping was poor, which has happened time to time.
But to my best of my knowledge, long on the
look of you get a chance to double check this,
please do it's ehorre Potieria, who you know, is not
the threat that Reyes is not even close. So now granted,
Olberg knocked him out very easily, backing up receiving pressure.

(17:13):
He's got that nice long guard, right, he uses that
long guard, and he looped down and then came around,
came over the top and got him on the on
these like blitzing entries. So he's very deadly that way.
The plum trying to mention is well, if you have
a South Paul versus an Orthodox, what's gonna happen there?
The lead hand battle is going to be really important. Dude.
This is a very very interesting test case to see about.

(17:37):
On one side, can Olberg maintain that long guard without
having Reyes occupied or take it away or go to
the body a bunch, you know, it's limited faint his
way out of it, You know, the kinds of things
that you would do to attack a long guard or
can he impose it on Reyes and then force Reyes
to take these blitzing injuries where then you know, he
gets clipped coming in. It's a question of like the

(18:00):
educations to a degree of the of the lead hand
of Olberg versus you know, the problem solving of that
lead that same lead hand battle, but more from the
other side of Reyes that this this is to me
why this fight is so interesting. The stakes are actually
huge and interesting for Reyes in particular. I guess Olberg
has a different set of them, but you know, still relevant.

(18:22):
But then the individual problem solving battle itself is high
stakes and actually like it tells a lot about who
not only is a deserving winner when they get their
hand raised, but like on either side their problem solving abilities,
for in Olberg's case, a fairly unique set of circumstances.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, and the division's wide open right now. There's a
lot of former champions trying to you know, get back
into position which could open the door. Remember this is
the same division that allowed Khalil Rountree a shot at
the title when he was ranked seventh. Maybe that played
more into the idea that Alex Perera had already fought everyone,
and they were trying to reward Perira for you know,
having been so active and saving their cards when they

(19:02):
gave Roundtree that slot in Salt Lake City. But there's
no question this is a monster fight and an opportunity,
especially if either one Reyes or Allberg can get a
finish to potentially get that call. Here's Dom Reys talking
exactly about what the stakes are for Saturday.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, full title applications for both of us here. You know,
he doesn't have.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
A real signature win and I'm the guy I will
get you a title shot. As we've seen through how
many fights the guys that beat may became champs, right,
like so.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Like sure, yes it's And I'm on the winning.

Speaker 6 (19:36):
Streak, right, I'm a three fight winning streak, not just winning,
but finishing, right, I'm finishing guys who are ranked.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I'm finishing ranked fighters, you.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Know, back to back to back. So that's that's the thing.
He's on a fight winning streak. A little bit lackluster
his last couple of.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Fights, but.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
This fight, regardless of how it plays out, the winner
is looking.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
You know, Top three is interchangeable for title fights. Just
what it is you know, And.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
I know they kind of promised Khalil and Jerry the
next one or whatever, But in my mind, I'm like,
I'll wait. Whatever, you guys can fight, that's cool. My
son's gonna be born in December.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
You know. I'll hang out with my son and kind
of raise him, you know.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
Loose sleep for the first couple of months, and then
I could get in camp after he's he's no longer
crying all night long. You know, so well, you are,
like I said, it's God's timing, God's plan.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
You know, it's all kind of seeming like it's lining
up that way.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
But we'll see. You know, I'm ready. I'm ready for
this fight. I'm very excited for this fight. I'm I'm
freaking so dang sharp it's insane.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
So that was the battle of the two worst hats
on the internet, right there, Luke. I hope I won,
But you know, literally what he mentioned, I'm wondering whether
I'm being disrespectful. Olberg has an eight fight win streaked,
I keep mentioning, but he doesn't have the same experience
as Reyes or he doesn't have the same signature wins.
You heard Dominic say that that term he doesn't have
the signa at your wins. He is coming off back

(21:02):
to back victories over Yan Blohovich and vulcan Osdamir, both
of them three round decision wins. He finished Alonso Menafield
right before that, but the wins before that were sort
of lower level step up names. Is it fair to
say exactly what we're saying about Olberg? Is there a
reason why he's had to wait this long to be
in a fight that could get him a title shot?

(21:23):
Shouldn't he have deserved it after beating Blahovich, who stopped
dom reyis how do you look at how we frame
how good Olberg actually is?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Olberg is good in a bad division and still with
visible limitations. It seems to me that, I mean, dude,
if the UFC were high on him, we wouldn't be
having this fight they would and and the Onkalaia of
Pereira fight, the rematch next week wouldn't be happening. I mean,

(21:53):
I don't know is that even controversial to say? I
don't think that's controversial to say, Like, after beating Belahovich,
did he put together enough of a resume at that
point to merit a title shot? I recall uncovering when
we covered that fight after the fact that we said
just that that was the thing that we had already said,
so like this fight was to be honest, something of
a surprise. Now it's again. I think it's actually the

(22:15):
right call by the UFC. I agree with their decision making.
Carlos Olberg won that Blokhovich fight by the skin of
his teeth. It was hardly some kind of mandate where
he like stamped his flag. You could look at the
winds on his resume ABC and then the streak, and
then you could say, well, yeah, this is enough for
a title shot. Yes you could do that, But it
wasn't like, wow, he really you know, this was not

(22:36):
a sixteen hundred on the SATs exactly. So they're giving
him this because they kind of want to see, Hey,
is Reyes's redemption is this is this vaporware or is
this real? Or in the case of Olberg, does this
guy have enough to turn the corner? And Blhovich was
you know, remember he had been off for a long
time coming back. Reyes, on the other hand, is on
a hot streak. This is not a guy who's cold.

(22:58):
This is a guy who's running you know, the second
hottest or even maybe the hottest he's ever run. Right,
That's what we're trying to That's that's the thing here.
So they're they're trying to see what they have. They're
not sure, and they're not necessarily blown over by this guy.
He still has some grand opportunities in front of him.
But I think the UFC made the right call here.

(23:18):
We need to see more.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, I'm with you on there. There's one other element
to Reyes's backstory that I don't think he's talked about
as readily, and he sat down with our friend Denis
Dennis Scrototov. I think that's how you pronounce it right
from Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, Dennis scrutin shove.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
From from our from our friends over there at submission real.
We love Dennis. By the way, obviously, here's Dom Reyes
talking about like some serious health setbacks that he had
along the way that he's put behind him.

Speaker 7 (23:45):
Is a stronger testament to faith and courage and strength
and will and faith.

Speaker 8 (23:51):
That perspective come to, like, when did you make that realization?

Speaker 7 (23:55):
I think a lot of it happened when I was
living day to day with my defense on both this
and my doctor said, hey, man, if you wake up today,
then good on you. If you don't, then well it
didn't work out. So I was living literally day to
day kind of as all we all should really, you know.
And it was like very profound experience, like I felt,

(24:18):
I felt God, I felt, I felt his energy, like
he's one hundred percent real. I have no question in
my mind at all that this is only a small
piece of eternity. Like I had a very profound experience.
And yeah, I'm just grateful to you know, still be
able to fight and be in this platform. And then

(24:39):
once I win, and when I win or lose or
whatever happens, I can still shout his name on top.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Of the roofs.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Hey, you know, this is real momentum, this is real motivation.
Obviously Olberg's got a longer wind streak, but you've got
a guy that that you know, I said it to
him my interview. It I feel like everyone is cheering
for Tom Rays to get this done. I mean, look,
you've I've been the most vocal that that he beat
John Jones and didn't get his hand raised. Do you

(25:05):
believe in mma karma? Is he destined to get back
in a title fight here.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
I mean going back to what he said. You know,
I'm not trying to be a hater, but I will
say this, none of that stuff means anything to me.
But it doesn't matter what it means to me. It
matters what it means to him and whether he believes it.
And it seems to me be see, he's not selling
something he doesn't believe. He absolutely you can just tell
he feels differently about it all. And you know, I'll

(25:34):
say this too. Maybe you got a different impression talking
to him, but I doubt it. I don't think he's
like happy about the losses in any way. I don't
think he is like, oh, I'm at peace with it.
But at the same time, it's not eating him up. Yeah,
you know what I mean. Like he might be motivated
to prove that that wasn't real or you know, a
blip in the road, or you know there's a better

(25:54):
future ahead. Uh, and that's that's but he's not like
consumed by it. He is not dragged down by it.
It seems like he has found a way to really mentally,
find a way to use that as a useful experience,
even as traumatic as it may be. And I think
that is huge as well. And to your broader point,
B see stories like this in MMA. I mean, let's

(26:14):
be honest, if history if passed his prologue, BC Reyes
shouldn't win. MMA is full of dude. How many times
have you seen slightly different case but like, you know,
a retiring fighter and they go up against someone and
they just get eaten alive on their way out the door,
and that's the way of things. But you know, you
never look at that and go, Jesus, that was fun.

(26:35):
You're always like, oh right, there is no there is
no happy ending like you just your heroes die the
most you know, gory death on their way out the
door of this kind of movie. So you just don't
see stuff like this. Now, I'm not saying these two
are equivalent, but B see this is reminiscent, reminiscent of
what happened with Robbi Lawler and Strike Force. So Robbie Lawler,

(26:56):
if you guys didn't pay attention, he never won to
concessive fights his entire time in Strikeforce. This is July
two thousand and nine to July twenty twelve, and during
the course of that time he lost his first bout
in Strike Force. He lost his last bout in Strikeforce,
and as I mentioned, never put together two wins ever
in that entire run. But he did put together a

(27:18):
two fight losing skid during that as well. So it's
winning one, losing one, winning one, losing two, winning one,
losing one. This is how it went the whole way through.
Then he goes to the UFC and he fights Josh
Koshtek and dude, he's off to the races that win.
It wasn't just that he got a nice win BC.
Go watch his body language during that win. He felt rejuvenated,

(27:39):
he felt alive again. I've seen something like this, BCEE.
To wrap it all up, Rayes's situation is different in
a few ways, and we both understand that. But you
just don't see stories like Lawlers where people are just
kind of forgettable and then hit a renaissance kind of
late or you know, or whatever you want to call
what rays is going through. Can he follow in that

(27:59):
tradition and can you do something like that? We're gonna
see on Saturday. But this is honestly a little bit special.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah it is. I mean I'm maybe I'm romanticizing it.
Maybe I like dom Reys, which I do, you know,
he seems like a humble guy that's been through a lot.
I also think Olberg's probably the better fighter at this moment.
I mean, I understand him being the favorite, but it
really plays with you when you're trying to make a decision.

(28:27):
So let's bring in our betting expert, Long Island main Card, Luke.
You so you heard those odds here about a two
to one underdog is Reys. You know how good looking
Olberg is, You know how good he is? How are
you betting this for Saturday?

Speaker 5 (28:41):
I went with Carlos Oldberg. I took him into parlay.
I just feel like Dom Reys. Yeah, he's on this
nice three fight win streak, but it's a little fluky.
Two of those wins came to unranked guys, third guy
being Nikita Krylov, who's ranked like thirteenth, I believe, so
he hasn't even fought anyone in the top thirteen. You know,
Carlos Oldberg, you guys mentioned coming off that Blahovich win,
coming off the OZ Mirror win. I just feel like

(29:01):
this is that next fight he needs, and with the
title fight next weekend, it's the perfect all right. Now
Carlos gets the next title shot. So I like Tom
go see Wolves, but uh, you.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Know Older, I feel like Oldberg should should win this.
I would pick, I would go, I would play safety
here and go Oldberg by decision. How are you looking
at Saturday's main event?

Speaker 1 (29:27):
One more time? Give me the odds one more time?
What do we have?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I've got him right in front of me right now?

Speaker 4 (29:33):
It's two fifty for Oldberg plus two to oh five
for Reyes.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
How many how many times has Reyes been the underdog
in this three fight win streak? Do we know?

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Probably every time?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, one of the fights was Anthony Smith, so I
don't know if he was the underdog there?

Speaker 4 (29:48):
All right, I can look this up.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Wait, in a finish here, Oldberg by decision is plus
five fifty.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Ooh, I gotta tell you, BC, I think Raya is
the better fighter. I don't really, I mean, and that's
usually what decides it. You know, what, how might go
ray is on this one? I'm the thing? Is this
like as long? Alan Luke pointed out to me on
the on the de private chat here, God, he was
minus two seventy five against Smith. Yeah, he wasn't an

(30:17):
underdog in that one. But Olberg is two and one
versus South Pause in the UFC. But like the two
South Paws, and he did look good in those, you know,
it wasn't against Reyes. I think that Reyes, if he's
clever enough and he has a Reyes has an answer
for that long guard and the lead hand battle. And
I think it's really important going to the body and

(30:39):
mixing it up. You don't see these things, then he's
just rolling the dice, right, b See, you would agree
if Reyes isn't mixing up things where you know, you're
taking away some of the ways in which Oldberg wants
to fight, or is the places where he has key advantages.
You're just it's just Russian roulette at that point, right,
And I mean, and maybe he'll win that one, but
you don't like his chances. But if he's getting to

(30:59):
the inside, that's big and then clinching, making him work,
making him wrestle up, just you know, finding ways to
take away that game. I think this is his fight
to lose. You know, I think that Olberg is I
think Reyes is the better fighter. I think Olberg in
this particular matchup, is the more dangerous fighter. But just
for Shitz and giggles. Give me Dominic Reyes. I, you know,

(31:20):
I hope that he wins.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
You know, I'm kind of with you on there. I
think that even though they're only eleven months apart and
Oldberg is surprisingly thirty four, I don't see him having
the same mileage on him or damage in over five rounds.
If we do see this become a little bit of
a war, I don't know. I mean, dude, you gotta
ride Oldberg here. It would be great feeling though for race. Look,
let's talk about sort of the negative surrounding this card

(31:43):
at large. I mean, it's not a deep card, but
not all fight nights are, right. I think that this
is better doing this in front of a live crowd
here on the on the western rim of Perth than
doing it in the warehouse. But we saw the Coalmine event,
which wasn't all that strong to begin with, one of
the ten Tafa Brothers versus Ebo Arsland get get pulled

(32:04):
from this card. We just saw Oban Elliott's fight get
pulled from this card due to injury last minute. And
now we've got that Australian news report that's been lingering
about the fact that the tickets not selling for this one,
and that tickets were dramatically reduced to about fifty percent
to try to fill out the building. Even at the
press conference this week with UFC International had David Shaw

(32:26):
running it. Heck, we saw some of the Australian media,
you know, pulling the Sean's detel and getting after it
so to speak, and trying to push them on whether
they're concerned about the lack of turnout from the fans.
David Shaw did mention the Australian Rules Football super Bowl
thing they got going on, but that's in a completely

(32:47):
other part of the nation. Here. Is it fair to
say that UFC is just finding their limits in this
era of jacking up the prices and maybe not every
time coming through with the kind of must see fighters
that people around the world need to see and is
at the time too. This is a ten pm Eastern
six fight main card that I begin that I believe

(33:10):
airs in the morning in Australia. How do you react
to this sort of sobering news for the UFC about
the reaction down there?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I mean, it definitely is not a sky is falling
scenario because if you're asking why is this performing or
I should say underperforming at the market. There's a few
good reasons for that that have nothing to do with
the UFC as a product. Right. So for example, there's
this AFL Championship, which is apparently quite a big deal.

(33:39):
I think there's also like the NRL Rugby Finals the
same day in addition on that Sunday, and this is
a These are massive sports there. I mean, just that
alone is going to make getting to the box office difficult.
Then on top of it, I think the Bank card
oct I think the fight it's the event itself starts
at five or six am local like insane.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Eleven am, so it's a twelve hour difference from us
in Perth.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
So seven am seven am. Sure, so seven am starts. Still,
you got to get up at five, you got to
be there at six. I mean, you know these are
I'm exaggerating to a degree, but you understand what I'm saying.
This is this is so that doesn't help. Then the
prices were high, and then there was card quality to
the point like for example, Steffi Hayes wrote this to me,

(34:24):
this card has a single ranked fight that's the main event.
It has fourteen fighters coming off the Contender Series five,
making their debuts. Eleven fighters are not coming off of wins,
and there's only one other ranked fighter on this card,
which is Loma Luke boone me in the actual prelim opener,
not the prelim main, the pre lim opener. And that's it.

(34:45):
Like the card quality is overflow. That's just what that is.
You can you can be mad at me for saying it,
but it's overflow. So on the one hand, BC there
are factors beyond what the UFC is about that is
negatively affecting this. I guess I would just say one,
my main takeaways are had a lot of competition. Two, however,

(35:06):
did the UFC not think about this, Like how did
they not know that this was going to be a thing? Three?
Putting it in Perth apparently is if they put it
in other cities on the eastern side of Australia, there's
a chance that would have potentially done better. But also,
I'm going to say this be see, you're beginning to
really see some cracks in the UFC product, and we
know that it's already tiered, but the appetite is really

(35:29):
beginning to buy fur Kate. Consider that Netflix they were like, yeah,
we want your numbered events. We don't want anything else.
And and then the and there was Mark Shapiro from
TKO who confirmed this, this is a fight night, and
it's a fight night of unusually low quality. Is that
a demand driver for the UFC? I would submit to you. Yes,
there are some other headwinds that they're facing and we

(35:49):
should note that. But like fight nights are like, it's
not it's not a it's not it's not a part
of the product that I think a lot of fans,
fans automatically can consider premium.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
I agree with you on that, and I think sometimes
you have to look at the old Wikipedia page part
of it. There are twenty six fighters after Obin Elliott's
illness not injury. Thank you Long Island Luke for that correction.
There's twenty six fighters remaining on this card, only ten
half Wikipedia pages. So that does say something about where
we're at here. And you know, I think we saw

(36:21):
this in the most recent UK card where the fans
were upset at the ticket prices and the lack of stars,
and you know, maybe this is what needs to happen
for a little bit of course correction for how they
charge and how they map these out. Hopefully as we
enter the paramount era, Luke. With all that said, how
many of these undercard fights are are you going to
care about? I mean, the best news is that the

(36:42):
main event matters. It's worth staying up for. There's title implications,
there's a good story. It's also a very even fight.
Short of that, though, what else we got here?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
I'm pulling up my notes here, give me just a second. Sorry,
all right, So elsewhere on this card? Okay, First of all,
as I mentioned your opener, Loma Luke Booney taking on Alexia,
I'm sure I'm pronouncing it wrong. Tay Nara at women's straweight.
I like Loma's style, TI style obviously she is Tie

(37:13):
comes from a pretty good camp out there, and Bong Tao,
so I really like what she's all about.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
And she's riding a four five wind streak loop just
to let you know that, all right, yep.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
On top of that, I would say a good prospect
at light heavyweight is Navajo Sterling out of City Kickboxing.
Him taking on Judolpho Belato probably gonna be a fun,
at a bare minimum in action packed fight. There is that.
Certainly you have some names that you might recognize. Kolbe thickness,
Jamie Malarkney won't malarkey and whatnot. I would say also
Jack Jenkins has a bit of guy who have been

(37:42):
kind of high on, who's stumbled a bit. I'm curious
to see if he can write the ship against Ramon Taveres.
And you know it's up to you to decide how
much this matters. Jake Matthews, to me, has kind of
hit a ceiling, but it's definitely very much improved. Neil Magne,
you kind of know what you're gonna get, So it's
an interesting test to like where Jake Matthew is gonna
go at this point. So you know, there's other ones

(38:04):
you could pick, but there's nothing especially excellent outside well.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I look from a betting standpoint, where should people be
putting their cashola? I mean, what do they got down
there in Australia Australian dollars? What are we using there?

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Australian dollars?

Speaker 2 (38:18):
All right? Kangaroo paint chips? What do we got?

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Nothing?

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Nah?

Speaker 5 (38:20):
I want to give a shout out first of all
to the Aussie versus the Long Islander to open the
main car. Tom Nolan versus Charlie Campbell, b se your cousin,
Charlie Campbell.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
That's an exciting if.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
The Long Islander wins, are you gonna punch your dad
in the stomach?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah? I will.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
You're talking about dogs to take. I feel like Charlie
Campbell's a live dog there. He was sitting at plus
one twenty four. Last I looked, Luke, you mentioned that
Jake Matthews Neil Magni fight. What do you think the
odds are on that top.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Of your head?

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Jake Matthews minus.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Jake Matthews is like minus four point fifty.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, so I do think there's some value on Neil
Magne with the spread. I'll say maybe he could win
around here, two rounds something like that. Jake Matthews probably
his fight, but he does not deserve that big of
a price tag.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I definitely would pick Jack Matthews to win, but that
is a big price tag. Guy.

Speaker 9 (39:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
And then one fight.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
We didn't mention Cameron Rouston coming off Contender Series. He's
actually fought on Contenter Series twice. He lost to Teres
Finny last year. Forget who he beat this year, but
it was a couple of weeks ago. It's taking on
Andre Petrowski Petrowski coming or going. He's a good wrestler,
he's thirty five years old, did lose his last fight.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Rouston struggles against wrestlers.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Well, you are reaching into a level of MMA that is.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
It's perst part it's Australia.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Let's go, baby, Yeah, let's go. This one's for Luke's dad. Okay,
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number two Coming at You. It was a little bit
of a whirlwind media tour with stops in New York
stops in Miami, which is the new home for the Friday,

(41:18):
November fourteenth Netflix super fight between Jake Paul Dravante Davis
and the sixty six pound weight difference between them. They
had this media tour, they had a ticket pre sale
out there. Did it improve anyone's opinion though of what
this fight will be? We have big names, we have

(41:39):
an even bigger size difference, and we had a lot
of eye catching moments from Tank Davis where it either
looked like he was uninterested. I don't really know what
to say here, so, Luke, while it's really early, is
the unusualness of this fight going to hurt its ultimate
viewership in sales? Or is this freak show factor here

(42:02):
to slayh big in the ratings whether we support it,
whether we want it or not.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
I believe it or not for today's show. I actually
rewatched one of the pressers now on one point five speed,
but I watched it. I still think that there's good
reason to think just in the end, it's going to
do really well as a promotional attraction, right PC. Also,

(42:33):
I have a big question for you, but first time
explain why. I mean, I do think that they're at
the Casia Center and it's not a stadium, they'll they
just have to fill it in an arena. I suspect
they'll be able to do it. I mean, we'll, you know,
we'll see, but I'm not that's of all my concerns,
that's probably the least of them. And of course it's
you know, free for subscribers essentially on Netflix. And we've
talked about this before. Does the combined star power of

(42:54):
Javonte Davis plus Jake Paul exceed that of Canela alvers
versus Bud Crawford. And you might say Bud Crawford now
is kind of broken through to a degree, and that's true,
but I'm talking about pre fight, right, that's of the
two equivalent measurements, and I would argue that Jake Paul
versus Davante is bigger, and so therefore you should at
least be able to match the forty one million, whatever
you would think of that figure, or you know, because
remember he did one hundred one million with Mike. I

(43:15):
don't think he can do that, but he should be
able to potentially meet or exceed Canelo. But then you
have to ask yourself, It's like, well, okay, but if
Davante's showing up to these things half interested and the
vibe is really weird and it just looks weird, to
what extent is that an interest to the audience are
trying to attract, And to what extent is that a
deterrent because they're not looking for hardcore boxing fans. That's

(43:36):
not who this fight is meant to appeal to. This
fight is meant to appeal to a broader audience of
like pop culture fans, and that's what is happening here.
This is a pop culture fight for pop culture people.
Are they going to be interested in a world where
Jervonte looks unmotivated? And you know, the stuff that Jake does,
to me is not very interesting to be see. But

(43:58):
at least he's trying, you know what I mean, Yeah,
he's trying to do stuff. He's like manufacturing things, and
you know, it's all a bunch of lowbrow stuff, but
it's something. And you're just not seeing really that kind
of response from Dravante at all, So you have to
ask yourself, like, what effect will this have? I guess
my thought in the end is it's not in any

(44:19):
way fatal enough to not get people hyped or to
deter them ultimately. I mean, hell, they wanted to see
Mike Tyson and he was bordering on aarp eligibility. But
I do wonder like how this might muddy the waters
a little bit in terms of both the hallow to
be received beforehand and then certainly afterwards as well.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like we're at the end
of days of these carnival crossovers. Remember the Mike Tyson
fight was four years removed from Tyson last fighting when
he fought Roy Jones in that twenty twenty exhibition. But
that thing slayed on pay per view. I mean, in
a time of illegal streaming, it did over a million
and a half buys. It also showed like a Tyson
who somehow still had it. That's not the same Mike

(45:00):
Tyson who showed up four years later. And you know,
Jake could have his lawyers listening to the show, but
there obviously was an agreement there not to send Mike
Tyson to Hell. I think that killed a lot of
the Jake momentum of why we care about these because
you got Jake constantly saying that he's gonna fight for
a title, or fight Anthony Joshua, or fight at Canelo.
Yet who is he ultimately fighting a Chavez junior who

(45:22):
didn't give a damn until the final round, and then
he got deported of all things, and now a guy
who's this short, this much smaller than him and wait,
and I think the key thing that we took from
these two pressors, particularly the New York one Z Tank
does not look like he wants to be there under
any circumstance at all. So, dude, I hate this. I

(45:45):
hate this. I hope somebody gets ill and it falls apart,
you know what I mean. Like, I'm really at that point.
I think it's almost horrible for both of their arcs.
I almost think it's horrible if it does well, because
I'm just I'm done with these. Maybe it's the hangover
of actually seeing history and greatness with Canello Crawford done
literally at the highest level in a stadium on Netflix.

(46:07):
It's not that I'm saying, like Jake be done. You've
done nothing good in boxing. I mean, we've given Jake
the requisite flowers, but I'm sick of this. So officially,
the rules will be an exhibition fight. Ten rounds, three
minute rounds. There's an argument going on about the gloves.
I think it was twelve ounces is what they signed to.
But Dravonte's coach, Calvin Ford, the Miami Presser of which

(46:28):
By the way, there was like four people in the crowd.
He's arguing that they want to go down to ten
or eight. You had Jervonte arguing in the New York
conference about the way, saying, I didn't agree to one
ninety five. Catchwaight, I agreed to one to ninety So
technically it's an exhibition. So will you get a full
on fight? Do we even want a full on fight?
I mean, you know you would for the freak show

(46:50):
entertainment of it, but this just feels ill timed and
wrong and like really obvious ways, you know what I'm saying.
Let's see the size disparity between them during one of
their face offs. This is New York. This is where
Tank was just like, yeah, I don't want to be here.
I mean, look, you've covered Tank a lot, We've interviewed
him at length. He's always a little bit laid back.

(47:11):
But are you getting that same sense that he's like,
what am I? What did I sign up for?

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Here?

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Also, I just you know, it's clear he doesn't take
Jake Paul seriously, and it's like in a way where
you're like, yeah, I mean we don't either, But then
you signed to fight him and he just seems like,
I don't know, it seems like he agreed to fight
like his little brother, and he just doesn't know how
to act around someone who's willing to make fart noises

(47:36):
with their armpits, you know what I mean. It's kind
of what. He just seems like he's a little bit
lost in this circus world where MMA fighters who are
a little bit more used to. I mean, boxing is
a circus too, but it's a different kind of circus,
and this kind of thing he's just not as used to.
I gotta say, BC, isn't it unbelievable that we were
just like, man, we can't believe that, you know, MMA
fighters would war themselves out like this for a check

(47:58):
that they basically can't get in boxing. And then you've
got Dravante, who is not underpaid. This is not a
guy who, inside of boxing, has ever been underpaid. And
now he is also houring himself out for this absurd
exercise in a way that we thought, oh no, because
those guys make so much in boxing, they would never
do this. Turns out they would. They would.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
On that topic, Luke, you know, I had heard rumors
that Gervante actually wanted to fight Lamont Roach Junior, but
they couldn't get the money to pull off that pap
per view. I'm not sure if they're substantiated. I'm not
on the inside with PBC, even though I do call
a good deal of their fights. I thought it was
weird that when Tank was asked by Brian Custer with
the first question of the Miami Pretz conference about why

(48:39):
are you not fighting Roach, that Tank was sort of like, well,
I can't really get into it, but I had to
make this decision for my career. And I don't know
if you saw on Tim Bradley's YouTube channel, he put
like a fifteen minute ran in which he tore Jake
Paul up and down. But within that rant, he basically
is accusing PBC of forcing Dravante into this fight to

(49:01):
help them along financially. I don't know if any of
this is true, but could that factor into this all?
Because I don't feel like Tank wants this what we're
watching here. I don't feel like he's reveling in the
fact that he's going to get a potential easy payday,
or that he's facing some kind of danger here against
a bigger man. I almost feel like he's just going
along with it.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah, I mean, if that's the reasoning that they can't
do this or that that excuse me that they are
going through with it, that this is ultimately just some
kind of financial support plan, I mean, then yeah, yeah,
you know you do. It's unbelievable Jake Paul and Saudi
Arabia have Boxing by the Balls. Could you ever imagine

(49:44):
that ten years ago? It's one of the most insane
things to even think about. Twenty fifteen, Jake Paul, Jake
Paul and Saudi Arabia are going to have this game
by the balls. It's it's just absurd to even consider.
But it's where we are. But I did have a
question for you, which is it's sort of well known,
like what led to the decline of Japanese MMA. Obviously
it has rebounded some now, and I'm talking about, you know,

(50:07):
the Fall of Pride and thereafter it went through some
dark times. I'm old enough, you know this is gonna
sound insane, But like when I was into MMA right
after college, I mean, obviously watching before, but I you know,
really got back into it. Japan was the center of
the MMA universe by a country mile. It was not
even closed they were far bigger than UFC, and of
course that leveled out and then eventually they collapsed in
UFC went on to do UFC things. But I remember

(50:29):
that world, But there's a there's a story to be told,
Like it wasn't just that Pride fell apart and people
just you know, stopped checking it out. That was part
of it. The other part was what ended up happening
towards the end of the boom in Japan is they
began Japanese promoters Pride, but also k One as well.
They began doing way too many freak show fights. You know,

(50:50):
freak show fights have a place in boxing and started
in combat sports, but they were going to it hard,
like Hoys Gracie versus Aki Bono d you. I don't
know if you ever seen those numbers on that at
the it like like forty percent of the country was watching.
It's some insane number, maybe even more than that, like
an absurdly high television rating. But what ended up happening

(51:11):
was it when you do too many freak show fights
and they're too prominent, what ends up happening is it
ends up undercutting the real thing. People lose interest in
the real thing. They get tired of the freak show,
but they then they never go back. It exhausts their
reservoirs and they don't really go back to the real thing.
That was a big lesson in why Japanese Mma Fellow Park.

(51:32):
There's other reasons as well, and of course the Yukuza
being a huge part of it too. It's not one
or the other, but definitely I recall years and years
and years for example, talking about this with Jordan Breen,
the late Jordan Breen. This is something we used to
discuss ad nauseum. Is Jake doing that to boxing?

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Nah? I yeah, he's here. That's that's the problem. Like
if this was a pay per view would be one thing,
but I hate that, like like we do have it.
Look from a pure boxing standpoint, we have an opportunity
with Netflix's interest right here, to shoot boxing in the
face of people and have it be really big, have
it beyond Netflix, have it seem cool the production values

(52:14):
through the roof. I get that the Jake Tyson thing
was one in a million. They did it. Look at
the viewership they got. It's not their fault that Taylor
Serrano three turned out to be the worst of that
incredible trilogy, and it really was an inspiring fight, and
it kind of felt like a letdown, But then we
get Canelo Crawford and you're like, Okay, lover hate the
people involved in it. This is really good. Imagine if

(52:37):
the biggest fights in boxing can be sent without a
pay per view up charge to basically everyone's living room
in Netflix to show what this sport really is. And
now we're gonna dip back to show people that this
sport really most of the time is the shit show.
So yeah, it does feel like a little bit on
your comparison there of what Jake is doing. And I
don't you know, I don't damn Jake for using this

(53:00):
to make money. I don't damn Tank if this is
the decision he made to make that money, even though
he's in the midst of his career. He's a top
ten pounder pound. He just seemed to sidestep a potential
jail return, and we just badly want him to face
the biggest names in the game. But I don't know,
I just something just feels off about this and I

(53:20):
don't like it. I really don't. The timing's bad. It
was different coming out of the pandemic when boxing was
having issues getting back in gear. The money wasn't there
for the big fights, and suddenly you got Tyson versus
Roy Jones, you got Logan Paul, you got Jake Paul.
It was this like, you know, moment moment, this little

(53:41):
side diet. It's like, Okay, for the next six months,
I'm gonna eat bad, you know what I mean, Like
I'm gonna have this little gas station diet. But eventually
we're all gonna look in the mirror and want to
get back in shape. We just had Canelo Crawford. I
don't want this, but let's hear from another crazy person. Luke.
Here's Jake Paul's dad talking to.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Hold on, let me set this up. He does not
he does not say nice things in this. This is
you know, I don't think I'm not gonna censor it
or anything like that, but heads up, you know this
guy does. I mean, listen, I'll just say this. Listen
to this, and we'll be like, well, at least he
doesn't use the N word. That's nice. Okay, But.

Speaker 10 (54:18):
Oh my god, did you guys watch that press conference
with Jake and Tank. Tank and his team must all
be completely brain dead, and if he were the face
of boxing, it would fucking end. Everybody in the boxing
world should be thanking Jake. He's putting asses in seats,
he's blown up women's boxing like it's never been done before,

(54:39):
and Tank trying to have a conversation with him, it's
worse than talking to a third grader. And then his
team didn't even know what.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
The fuck they talking about.

Speaker 10 (54:46):
They're like, oh, well, how about we want to do
eight or ten on sclubs and blah blah, and Jake's
like that was that was your guys? Team and his manager,
whoever the fuck the retard was, was like, well, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Know about it.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
What the fuck do you guys?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Do you know?

Speaker 10 (54:58):
Like just the community should be thinking in fact that
there's some of you, some brains, representing the future of boxing.
Thank you, Jake, Tank, your fucking retard.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
GP's out well, GP giving me Hunter Biden vibes in
a big way. Luca, right, really.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
How much do you think he knows about crack? That's
the question?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Wow, okay, uh, that's an interesting take that's supposed to do,
by the way, promote the fight. Here is also some
of what Luke referenced earlier. Jake is trying at least
to create storylines something to get Tank angered. He brought
up the low Jack and he also brought up the
the history of domestic violence.

Speaker 11 (55:34):
Here's Jake, when you walk into the ring, how much
you think your way.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
With or without the ankle monitor on?

Speaker 11 (55:43):
That's corny, that's super corny. I don't I don't know
how much our weigh and huh what he's talking about?
Man outfit is trash for real, Alpha is garbage. Thank
that hash though. Anybody that but Rock the Mohawk is
a fucking clown.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
We all know this name.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
We want to see clowns. You want to see clowns. DeVante,
you're the fucking clown, buddy. Any man who puts his
hands on a woman is the clown.

Speaker 11 (56:17):
If I put my hands on females or anything like that, right,
you see how when when I don't even want to
bring up nobody think, what's the name about that? But
Pete Diddy, when things got like that, it was mad
females coming out right.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
So if if I hit a.

Speaker 11 (56:33):
Female right wanting to be mad other females like I've been,
I ain't been just with one female like I'm I'm
thirty years old.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
No, okay, dude, who is the let me serious question,
Who the fuck is that for?

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Who's quality controlling that? I feel bad for? That reminds
me of the guy who hosted this tour. Look you
know what I mean, you know, just being a hungout
dry like.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
This is terrible. Here's a check, yes, this is Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Let's go poor poor Brian Custerer. He did try very hard.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
He did, he was doing his best.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
I mean, yeah, we also have Terrence Crawford who chimed
in and this.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
One, this one might get a little long, but uh
he well, let's know what he has to say about
who he thinks is gonna win.

Speaker 12 (57:20):
Jake too big for Tank. You know, in reality, he's
way too big for Tank. Like Tank is very talented, punch, hard, explosive, uh,
the whole nine yards.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
But yeah, because some people say Jake's fights rigged, He's
like suing people now that say they're rigged.

Speaker 11 (57:37):
You see that, But how could they rig it before?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Because like what if they just say, oh, we're gonna
go soft on each other and then Tank just fucking
throws it right at Jake.

Speaker 12 (57:46):
Jake and punch with that right and like I seen
you know what I mean up close in person, Like
dude is big, he's not as slow as people think
he is, and he can punch, you know. That's why
a lot of people know. Like there was times where
you know him and Tyson, you know, was in the ring.
He could have like laid it on Tyson, but he

(58:07):
kind of like held back.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
You could tell.

Speaker 12 (58:09):
And that's same with Tyson, Like Tyson could have caught
Jake with something.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
He's just like.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
You know, so you could see it.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
If you had to choose someone to win that fight,
who do you think wins?

Speaker 12 (58:20):
Honestly, I think Jake bye by.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Youth really, dude, Jake's a huge underdog too.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Jake by Youth apparently the bean size. Yeah, I hope
nobody wins. Luke. There we go. I mean, what else
you got to say about it? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Couldn't I just I just think I never was this guy.
I thought, like you, it was, you know, big enough
to be interesting and market but not in any way
a not supplanting normal boxing. But I was really thinking
about the lessons They called in Japan the kakutoki boom,
that was what they called. It was like this boom
of M m A and pro wrestling at the time,

(58:58):
and the reasons why that collapsed was promoters over relying
on freak shows for big ratings. And I'm like, I
gotta tell you, I don't know. I mean, I think
there's so many things happening in boxing. To lay it
all at the feet of Jake Paul would also be
irresponsible and not true. But I have to wonder, bec
here's where my head is at. And that's the last
one we could say about it, Dude, Jake Paul's fights,

(59:19):
I'm sorry to say, they mostly suck. Like, they're mostly
not interesting, they're mostly not very good, and they're mostly
not very fun. And in fact, the last one was
maybe the worst one I've ever seen in my life.
What if he has another stinker where you get these
big seventy five million, let's say, like huge number, and
you get this on Netflix and he can't knock out Jervonte,

(59:40):
but Jervante can't knock him out, and so you get
another kind of like ass situation. What does it do
when the times that you call in casual fans to
come look at something and it's decidedly shit, What does
that do? What does that do. I don't know the
answer to that, but I'm a little bit worried to
find out.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I just hate that. You know, Tank was talking about retire,
didn't seem to care that he fought to a disputed
draw against Roach. Looked like he wanted the rematch. He
needed the rematch to sort of right that wrong on
his resume. And here we are, here, we are all right,
let's go to topic number three. We have some clarity
here and looking to find a replacement for Raphael Faziv

(01:00:20):
in the October UFC he O main event for the
Fight Night card be Faziva's out due to injury. We
talked last episode about a lot of people were turning
it down. One person that didn't turned on an opportunity
to fight Doe Bronx. Charles Olivera is one matteish Gamra.
He's in. We have a new main event and in
some cases you got to argue this upgrade sort of

(01:00:41):
the stakes. When you look at where the rankings are.
You have Olivera rank number four, you have Gamrock ranked
number seven, both in the one hundred and fifty five
pound division. This is about as different an opponent as
Olivera could get right here. But Luke, all in all,
it ain't BSD. But is there an argument to make
this is even a better matchup for the fans than

(01:01:03):
the all action we we potentially could have had with physique.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
I think this fight, oh man, okay, I genuinly generally
think this fight's gonna be awesome. So let me start
with what I think could be the bad news are
at a bare minimum just at least worth thinking about
ahead of time. Namely, you go back to what Armin
Sarukian did to Ola Vera, and the other guys have

(01:01:29):
done that in shorter time spans, but like he did
it for you know, three rounds essentially UFC three hundred, right,
that was three hundred. I think that was three hundred. Yeah,
where he's maintaining chest to chess connection the entire time,
or at least you know, long stretches of it, breaking
it for some ground and pound. But you know that
was basically I know there was some submission threats earlier,
but like, how did he win that fight? Like that's

(01:01:50):
how he won that fight. And you would imagine, hey,
if like Saryukian could do it and the guy who
also wrestles, who also beat Saryuki In might also be
able to do that. That's something to keep in mind.
I think what I would say, though, is a if
you're a Charles Oliver fan, the fact that he's not
going up against a bruising striker. Gamrock's striking has gotten better,
but he's not like physivee on the feet. I think

(01:02:11):
it's pretty fair to say, you know, given where he
just got viciously laid out, that should make you feel
a little bit better. That's the first thing i'd say.
The second thing i'd say is I think olivera is
starting to figure out about like scoop gripping, inverting, you know,
doing He did it to Islam. He did it in
fact to Ilya. Ilia tried to take a dominant position
and he went underneath him and so Ilia had to
essentially just kind of escape, to you, back to his

(01:02:32):
feet or whatever. So I think he's got that capacity
to do it. And for that reason, I'm gonna say
I'm pretty cautiously optimistic that there's a version of this fight,
and it's maybe even the likeliest version that is going
to be pretty competitive. Yes, Gamroth's gonna get the take down. Yes,
there might be some control positions that he maintains. But
in general, the style matchup and given what Olivera has learned,

(01:02:53):
is going to lead us to a place You're going
to get a lot of action on the ground and
or Olivera potentially even putting it on him in the feet.
Bigger questions, of course about his resilience. PC Gamrot not
known as a puncher, but if you've just been kot
and you're right back at it, you know your resiliency
can suffer as a consequence. So that is certainly on
the table. But honestly, I'm gonna say that I'm cautiously

(01:03:15):
optimistic You're gonna get a really fun back and forth
ground battle.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Yeah, it means a little more than the PHYSI fight
because you've got Gamra who's one four of his last five.
If he beats the number four former champion and Olivera,
this could be the closest he's ever been to knocking
on that door to the title shot. And on the
flip side, Olivera has lost three of five and done
so on the highest level, sometimes spectacularly. But given his
age he's advancing into his late thirties now, and given

(01:03:41):
the fact that like you said, he's so far, so
closely removed, excuse me, from a devastating knockout to Toporia.
This could be the kind of win that revives him
and keeps him in that title picture. So no shortage
of steaks. As we look at the current DraftKings odds,
Olavera minus one twenty Gamro plus one hundred, so we
are looking at a very competitive, very interesting fight right here.

(01:04:04):
Let's hear from Charles Olivera, who reacted on social media
to the fact that Gamra was the man who stepped.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Up a you get a side.

Speaker 10 (01:04:16):
Oh here's Hipki.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Doesn't to show you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Look, I don't know if your Portuguesa is any good,
but he just said there will be war. And you know,
the gamera for for having sometimes a born and wrestling
reputation has been in some bangers. So if you're gonna
do this in heo in the backyard of that gray
haired gentleman who comes to uh steal your girlfriend, you
know what I'm saying. That's that's the spirit Olivera brings
to the cage. Somebody's getting finished. Okay, they That's that's

(01:04:54):
what he brings. This could be a great atmosphere for.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
A call it. Call it what was the place where
Robert Kraft got the handy?

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Oh yeah? Orchids of combat possibly.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Yeah, that's what you should call this card or this
event it someone's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Getting finished, you know what I'm saying, same feelings. Oh,
we also have gam Rod here responding, reacting.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
I want to set this up if I may look
at how much this means to Gamrod, who people don't
want to fight, right, I mean, he's got some big
fights and sometimes he's lost the ones where he's had
a chance to win, Like the Hooker fight was kind
of surprising, you know, but for a guy that's been
avoided and not been able to never been a promotional star,
never will be a promotional star.

Speaker 9 (01:05:34):
Look what it means to him.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Look that sounded like you had of Joseph Banks. By
the way, that was you could take that audio out
of context in a hurry. It feels good to see I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Was also just as sweaty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
It does feel good to see that. Plus one hundred
odds on Gamra. You like that, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
I mean, that's a better question for Long Island, Luke.
But I gotta tell you, I mean, you know, he's
he's a fucking threat. I can tell you that he's
a threat.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Indeed, indeed, all right, that was uh, that was.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
The worst looking cyber truck I think I've ever seen
in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I would agree with that. I don't think I've seen
a good looking one yet. Reminds me of the women
of the state of Pennsylvania, Luke as my dad.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Pennsylvania Boom. There are certain states, and there's a certain
things that you and I both kill on this show,
and like Kiss the band Kiss, we both hate them.
And yeah, women, that's another one. We're brutal in certain ways.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Yeah, there we go with that.

Speaker 12 (01:07:14):
Uh.

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Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Yeah, they used to call them Luke swamp Ass, Thomas Backing,
William and Mary you know what I mean. Yeah, Wow,
that's great. All right, let's go to topic number four. Hey,
it's only been three weeks that the new PFL CEO,
John Martin is on the job. The self proclaimed lifetime
mixed martial arts and combat fan, he's tatted up as well,

(01:10:16):
as we saw from the video that he put out there.
He's making huge changes and it's in good timing because
we are a little bit over a week away from
that October third, arguably the biggest fight card of the
year for PFL in the UAE, when we get Usman
der Maga Metov Paul Hughes Chapter two for the PFL
Lightweight Championship. Yeah, Cory Anderson in a rematch with dovlets

(01:10:37):
On for the light heavyweight Championship. Look, there's a lot
going on in PFL, and John Martin has announced some
very substantial changes in recent days to their business model.
Most importantly, from now on, each division will only have
one champion, no more tournament champions. As you can see
on the screen, this was the detailed text that Martin

(01:10:58):
put out there. Luke, I've got video from an interview
that's gonna run next week on my channel where I
had the pleasure to catch up with John Martin, and
we can throw to that in a second, but straight
off the top, just making that one key change of
no more regular season tournament champions, then we got the
Super Fight pay per view champions, then we got the

(01:11:19):
Champions League champions. None of that bs anymore. One division,
one fighter, one name, one champion. Do you support these
changes that John Martin has brought in and how impactful
do you think they'll be? And not only PFL attracting
new fans, but to be very blunt staying alive in
this industry moving forward.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
I don't know what the response could be to this
other than how is this? How is this not good news?
How is this not good news? This is great news.
We'll discuss the impact in a second, but this is
obviously what they need. We've been talking about this forever, dude,
As somebody who's been doing this shit for probably way
too long. I've seen all these promoters and tricks. I

(01:12:00):
lived through born Revenue trying exactly this, and he had
a different solution that he came up with. I'll never
forget when they let him go and they brought in
Scott Coker to run Belatore after Strikeforce had ended and
it's time served and ZUFA had come to a close.
He was doing this bit where they would have tournaments
some of the times, and then they would have this
pool of people where if you'd either fought or won
in a tournament, you didn't have to be in there.
And the whole thing was confusing. Who can follow shit

(01:12:23):
like this? You can't reinvent the wheel they tried to
with this tournament system. You can do some tournaments. There's
a limited focused use for them. There is an intelligent
use case for them, but just making everywhere. We're just
gonna completely rewrite the structure of MMA in ways that
has proven to be a failure. But we're gonna do
that to raise revenue. Sure, you're gonna be able to
raise revenue doing that, but are you gonna be able

(01:12:43):
to turn a fucking profit? Are you gonna be able
to attract an audience? Are you gonna be able to
build a fan base. And the answer to that is
a resounding fuck. No, it doesn't work. You can look
at what PFL does and you can find many wonderful
things about the product, but it's a basic question. Do
they make money and are they gonna pay have to
make in money? And the answer is no. The answer
is no. Getting this right BC to answer the question

(01:13:06):
about the impact doesn't solve all of their problems. There's
many other things that have to go in conjunction with
this to get them to a better place, as well
as frankly, some serendipity. However, and I think you might
agree with this, BC, this choice is not just good
because is it objectively helpful that they're simplifying their championship structure. Yes,

(01:13:28):
of course. But to me, what actually makes it even
better than that is that it signals the kind of
thoughtfulness and reflection about what's working and what's not, and
the kinds of simple but frankly bold changes that need
to get made. It gives me, I'm trying to point
out BC, it gives me faith in his judgment, right,

(01:13:51):
And if I have faith in your judgment and your
judgment proves to be correct. It's not about my faith
in it. I'm saying, if the judgment proves to be correct,
then they're gonna make other good decisions down the line
that they're gonna need to to get to a better place.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Dude. I talked to John Martin for fifteen minutes and
was kind of blown away, not blown away at like
unrealistic promises, just that I think he's everything PFL has
needed in a mouthpiece. And I know they've been using
John's the coachman a lot more lately, and we certainly
support that. And this isn't meant to just completely dunk
on Don Davis and just t bag him Shaquille O'Neil

(01:14:27):
on Chris Dudley's style, But Luke, I think a lot
of what Don Davis was doing publicly was acting like
he's the smartest guy in the room. In us MMA,
fans and experts don't know shit, whereas I think Martin's
coming in very humble. He's saying, look, we want to
listen to the fans. We're making these changes right away,
just so people know Peter Murray is the guy that
John Martin is replacing as the CEO. Peter Murray will

(01:14:49):
now focus on PFL International. Don Davis, the co founder,
is still there, still playing a big role, you know,
behind the scenes, but he just wasn't the right guy
for the face. And the face matters. You need the
media to buy in and trust who's speaking. You need
them to be able to decipher properly. And I feel
like unfortunately Don with multiple ends, was digging a lot

(01:15:09):
of holes without realizing it for himself. And it was
just like, yeah, they made some positive changes this year,
you know, I brought back elbows, certain things, but it
wasn't enough because at the end of the day, our
biggest complaint was the same. This whole shit's so confusing.
You've got too many sub leagues, You've got too many
championship belts. How are you guys gonna compete. You're gonna
compete by us knowing who are your core of best fighters,

(01:15:32):
who's coming up behind them to potentially challenge them? What
rivalries matter? This is what we care about. We don't
care about tournaments, We don't care about the other stuff.
So here is John Martin talking to me directly in
response to that big announcement that we talked about. We're
moving forward. We will have one champion per division, and
there's some other changes coming. Listen closely here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Part of the.

Speaker 8 (01:15:52):
Reason why I decided to move quickly to the simplification
and communicate the simplification is because we've been listening to
the fans and it was my predisposition coming in being
a fight fan since I was five years old. There's
a tried and true, you know method which and it's
beauty and simplicity, and it's everybody knows who the champ is,

(01:16:16):
everybody knows who the contenders are. And then there's matchmaking.
There's storytelling, there's grudge matches, there's you can build energy
and momentum and and and in some of the formats
it was tough to do that. The formats were not bad,
it was real rationale for them. And we may still
use some tournament formats in certain areas, particularly in the

(01:16:38):
international leagues, where I think it may make more sense.
But people want to see the best fights. They want
to see the best fighters fighting the best you know, opponents,
and that's what I want to bring to the PFL.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
So Luke I followed up and said, are you saying
that next year twenty twenty six, which, by the way,
is the last year for PFL on ESPN. Are are
you going away with tournaments? And he said, while I'm
not ready to make that announcement today, he said, we're
going to be talking with ESPN about what they want.
And basically he summed up that it would be his
preference to get rid of the season tournaments next year,

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use those more on the international circuit and actually put
their best fighters forward, let them defend titles, let them
become names. And he claims five years running TNT that
he has the right sort of marketing approach to take
people like Ditch of A, you know, people like Paul Hughes,
people like Usman and really try to make them stars.
So this is refreshing his shit for a company that

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really felt like it was on its last chances.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Here, here's what you have to confront BC. What happens
if they make these changes and it doesn't save them.
What does that tell you?

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
I mean, it tells you that this is this business
is a monopoly and no one's gonna, you know, knock
on the door of the top. But you know what
he wasn't saying to me throughout this interview, which you
can listen to next week, he wasn't saying we're co
leaders with UFC. He was actually saying that we are
number two. We want to get better every day. We
want to eventually be considered a competitor, but for now,

(01:18:08):
we just want to make the best fights we can.
And that's exactly where you would want them to be. Now,
I did bring up Francis and Ghanu. He said he's
going to meet with Francis for the first time next
week in the UAE. He doesn't know if Francis wants
to fight in MMA moving forward. They're going to talk
about that. But unlike Don Davis who kind of ripped
Francis for not being there for PFL Africa, this guy

(01:18:29):
went on a rant about how good Francis has been
for their brand as an ambassador. So it seems like
they are trying to repair whatever issues are with Francis,
and that's the reason why when they announced that December
card in France that will have a heavyweight championship fight
Nemkough against Head and Frejeda, they did not ask and
Ghanu for that fight because they want to really figure

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out what his future is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Yeah, fair enough. I mean, I gotta tell you, I
haven't heard anything from this guy yet that gives me
anything other than belief that he's got the right idea
about you know, where it can go b C. I
don't know, but can he maximize what they have? I
certainly have heard nothing yet that tells me he can't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Yeah. And then he said in the early talks he's
had with ESPN that they want Ditchivo to kind of
be the face of it, like they are.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Interesting with good reason. I mean a your dad would
watch and be many other dads might watch who feel
similar to you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Told John Martin, I said, that's all my dad talks about,
and he was like, yeah, here we go. That's what
it is. All right, let's see if PFL can pull
that off. All right. Our fifth and final topic today,
John Jones has signed on to be what appears to
be the head trainer of twenty twenty US Olympic gold
medalist Gable Steveson, who is one to zero after making

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of course, his MMA debut with LFA just a few
weeks back, and John has praised the Olympic champion as
an inevitability that he will go on Gable Steveson to
become UFC champion. Now tied in with this news, as
Gable will make his return to combat sports when he
had minds a dirty boxing card upcoming next month in

(01:20:04):
Nashville against the guy who looks like a truck driver.
But we'll see what happens right there. In terms of
all time heavyweight prospects in MMA history, Luke, where do
you think Stevenson ranks? Giving his background, his agility, given
what we know about him at this point, is it
fair to say he's the greatest heavyweight prospect ever? And
what do you make of John Jones kind of going

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all in on trying to help him get there?

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Yeah? So I was wondering about this. Okay, So how
many very quickly you see it says you're a prop?
The prop quiz king how many fights before brock Lesnar
won a UFC title?

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Minsu, Kim, Frankmeer and the Texas what's his name?

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Rattlesnake, No, the damn Heath Herring?

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
So four right? Four?

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
So then Kutor was four? Okay, I think he's got
heavyweight prospect of all time locked up. I mean, the
guy didn't even get to five fights and he won
a UFC title. Now granted he beat Kator doing it,
but Katur was a former two time heavyweight champion that
was not you know, yes, there was a I mean,
if you watch the fight, Brock is like comically bigger

(01:21:11):
than him, but you get the idea. Still since Brock Lesner,
I don't know if I've ever been this excited about
a heavyweight prospect. You know, Frances and Gun who kind
of came a little bit out of nowhere, so he
wasn't heralded necessarily in that way. ABC Caine Velasquez was
the prospect of all prospects. Cole Conrad was fighting in Bellatore,

(01:21:32):
so he was like a hardcore fans delight. A lot
of people weren't exactly sure about him, but yes, you
could put him on that list. Cain I think would
be on the list. Of the point I'm trying to
say is look at the fucking names I'm putting him
in company with. Now, I don't know if Gable Steveson
will be that kind of a star in fact, because
he's got a check her past in like a really
horrible way, I'm not even sure if I want him to.
But putting that aside, just like, what is the what

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is the inevitability of this? I just you know, I
don't know how he's gonna deal with pressure from the
broader career. I don't know how he's going to deal
with someone punching him in the face. That does change
the equation in ways that can be hard to predict.
Even you can be the world's best wrestler, be an
excellent athlete, and in certain ways be tough as shit,
but certain people like brock Lesnarer, he wasn't a world champion,

(01:22:15):
but like brock lesnar you could never maintain composure under fire.
That was a real big problem for him. So these
are things that could be limiting to him. But BC,
how could you not consider Gable Steepson just on pure
athletic talent, pipeline strength of the division institutions essentially backing him.
How could you not think the Gable Stepson's not going
to win a UFC title? How could you think that? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Yeah? I mean, does it give you any pause though
that It didn't seem like he had the passion to
go directly from amateur wrestling success to this that he
need brock true, but he did have a bunch of detoys.
He tried out pro wrestling. It seemed like it was
his fall. That didn't work. He tried out the NFL
thing very brock like. That didn't work. He went back

(01:22:59):
to amateur wrestling for that extra year at Minnesota. I mean,
I don't know, maybe that doesn't matter in the end.
I mean it's hard to tell off of one LFA fight,
But what we do know about him is that the
agilities through the roof. He's got size. Hopefully for his sake,
he has the meanness, you know, the willingness to take
punches that you'll need to compete at heavyweight. But if
he's got John Jones as coach, that's either gonna be

(01:23:21):
the best choice he ever made of the worst, depending
on where that goes. But like, he's probably gonna be
given every chance. I mean, we talked about it before.
I don't think he's gonna have too many fights on
the regional scene. You gotta believe he's gonna be in
the Contender series soon and then maybe even on the
White House card. So he's probably gonna get every single
opportunity here to shine.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Yeah, you're right they are going to put him on
that White House card, aren't they?

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Definitely? So have you ever thought about what John Jones
could be as a coacher.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Well, I mean, if you have to bail your coach
out of jail, how good could any coach be? But dude,
he's got a wealth of knowledge. He's got a wealth
of knowledge, he's got a wealth of experience. Again, I'm
sidelining personal feelings and I'm saying just objectively, we also
don't exactly know how good of a coach he could be.
I mean, we've seen him before, like Corner Maurice Screen,

(01:24:12):
but Marie Screen is not Gable Steveson. You know, like
there's a different value proposition completely. So it seems like
he's enthusiastic about a BC. I think that's the part
that stands out to me. He seems excited about it.
He seems eager to really lean into that role. And
if that's the case, and he's actually like motivated to
be a part of it, how could he not be

(01:24:34):
a helpful factor? Right? How could he not be? He's
got and not just of course, you know, the transitioning
from wrestling to MMA, but then all the high level
experience that he's got. And I understand Gable Steveson's got
like the ultimate high level experience, But we're talking about
in MMA, dealing with the media, dealing with some of
these other factors that are somewhat distinct from the kind
of thing that you get from more traditional you know,

(01:24:56):
media coverage and traditional sporting norms. With the Olympic Games, again,
it's even bigger than MMA, obviously, I understand, but just
just a lot. He's seen a lot, He's dealt with
a lot, and so and again, an absurd wealth of knowledge.
I just don't see how that doesn't help Gable Steveson.
I really don't.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Yeah, here's John Jones talking about his excitement of taking
Gable on this journey. John read it? Yeah, yeah, John Jones'
quote here. As I've always said, if I would ever
be a coach, it would be a wrestler who was
completely committed to success. I found my guy, and I'm
excited to add World Championship coach to my resume.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
But making it all about him, how fucking amazing is that? Right?
It's just John Jones. He's gonna be who he is
till the bitter fucking end, that is what I'm making
it all about himself. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Well this do you think this would be in conjunction
with Jackson wink.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean part of it
is probably they want to restore some glory to that, Jim,
you know what I mean. Yeah, it's got a storied
history certainly, but it's not what it once was. To
get credit and no things can stay what they are.
But you know, getting getting Gable steveson there and him
getting a world title would be we talk about comeback.
We started this whole conversation talking about comebacks. That'd be

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quite the comeback for the gym.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Maybe Jones has found the guy who is willing to
fight aspinall, you know, so he doesn't have to do
it himself.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Dude, that's such a good point. Holy shit, you're so right.
I guarantee you that's part of what you You fight him,
Like remember the site where they were in dubn Dummer
where they throw the salt shaker and then Seabst gets
up and then Jim Carrey's like like this like that,
He's like, yeah, fight him, fight him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
You fight out to cam Neely there the Boston Bruins.
Good stuff. All right, those are our five topic. It's
time to send over into uh some fans stuff. So
Morningcombat at gmail dot com is your opportunity to send
us your dead wrongs, your fan subs, your complaints about
the show, maybe even pictures of your privates. Tell Mikey
we said hi. Uh, the first one is at our

(01:26:57):
opportunity to take the stand if you believe something we
say was incorrect, insensitive, maybe just straight up dead.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Wrong, dead wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
A bunch of people emailed about this, from William to
King Bong Eel. But this was Patrick's email. He says, Hi, guys,
massive fan in Donk from Sydney. And on the last
episode at one hour and three minutes, Luke and BC
mentioned that Charles never fought Derry Yush and Long Island.
Luke mentions that it was probably ten years ago. Well,
you're all dead wrong, because Charles ko Derry USh back

(01:27:32):
in twenty twenty three is first losing the title. Lots
of love, guys, keep up the good work and shout
out to my brother and fellow massive fan and Donk Patrick. Okay,
so this is William writing the email shouting out his
brother Patrick. But Long Island, Luke, didn't you correct this?

Speaker 5 (01:27:49):
I was just gonna say they clearly didn't listen to
the whole episode, because like two minutes after we said that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
I corrected it in real time. But you know, I'll
take that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Hell either way.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
I did say the ten year line.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
We'll take the I'll take deal.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
I think the statue of limitations wears off if we
correct it same episode.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Okay, if we do correct the same episode, that does
wear it off. But whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
All right, let's go to Austin from Nebraska. He says
I got a dead wrong for BC on Monday show
during Have You Seen? BC showed how Bud was on
the big screen during a field goal kick for Michigan.
BC said that quote it would work and Nebraska would win.
This is dead wrong, as not only did Michigan's kicker
go three for three on field goals and three for

(01:28:29):
three on point after attempts, Michigan also won thirty to
twenty seven. Damn, I stand corrected. I thought Nebraska had won,
even though Bud didn't help them this time around. He
did last year when he ran out with the team
before their win against Shops Colorado Buffalo's and he wore
number one forty at that time. That wouldn't have been

(01:28:49):
last year. That would have been a while back. Also
New England. Well, and maybe it was last year, but
it's the wrong weight class. Also, New England or Nebraska's
head coach and athletic director went to Bud versus Canal,
and the hope is to have Bud fight in Nebraska's
football stadium before he retires. Austin, I will take that.
L I didn't check close enough. I didn't even I.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Mean shit, I thought Nebraska keeping it close with Michigan
was actually kind of a fucking victory in himself.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
Yeah. I don't care if either team wins, loses, or dies,
as Luke Thomas would say, but there you go. Our
third one here is from a fellow named owayne Apologies
Donks for submitting a second dead wrong in the span
of the week, but this one is a three for
one dead wrong. At one hour and thirty five minutes
of Monday Show, Luke claimed that brock Lesnar couldn't make
an NFL team in his prime. This is not true.

(01:29:37):
It was albeit a brief stint, but the Minnesota Vikings
signed him in four and cut him due to lack
of skill development.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Wait wait, wait, wait did he get signed to anything
other than the summer team practice squad.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
He was the last cut of the offseason so then
he didn't make a fucking team. Yeah, yeah, I don't
know that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
What he did is not what means. That's not what
making an NFL team means at all. You have to
make the fifty three man roster. Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Yes, it's like a couple. It's why Shop says he
had a cup of coffee with the Bills. But he
didn't make a you know, a preseason or a regular season.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
But you're also not you're right. No, you're right, You're right,
You're right, You're you're absolutely right. He did not make
an NFL team like that. That is what it means
to make an NFL team. It's fucking hard. It's hard,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
The second dead wrong from Owayne came a minute later
from Schlong Island Luke, who claimed that Dominic Reyis had
an NFL background. This is incorrect. Reyish, while he played
in college, never made an NFL team and was passed
up for the draft. I believe he tried out with
the CFL. I'm not sure on that. And then finally
BC claimed he played cornerback when he actually played safety

(01:30:48):
for Stony Brook College in Long Island. There cheers and
have a good week, you three. Uh are we really
dead wrong there?

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
I mean, dude, is Greg Hardy the only guy who
ever made a pro NFL team.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
Not to be I don't think I said he played
in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
I think we were picking fighters who we would choose
to be on an NFL team.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
These dead wrongs are they're dead wrong? In fact, the
listeners are dead wrong here Mikey's if.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
You're not careful, you'll be like, oh, in the spirit
of humility, I want to take an l but you
got to double check these.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
No, I will hold that l Okay John is our
final one. He says that one hour and nine minutes
on Monday, LT said that making an Izzy versus Poeton
fight would be their fourth. This is dead wrong. It
would either be number three or number five all together.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Fair enough. I'll take that out. That's absolutely correct.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
That is a question. By the way, I asked Perrero
whether that you can check out later today on the
BCX whether he feels that rivalry is over or not?
All right, so check that out. That's called a teaser.
A cliffhanger. Who was the translator, the dude what's his name, uh, Pliny?
The elder who's that the large guy that's always with him.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
What's his name, oh, coach?

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Whatever is the Coolino Cruz, Pelinio Cruz. Yes, yes, he
was with him, all right. It was awkward because the
first ten minutes Polinio wasn't there, and Alex and I
were talking, but it was really me excitedly talking in English.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
And him, dude, how much of this interview was about Connecticut?

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
I was going to slip one in, but with the
translation that time was already over, so I didn't ask that. Ultimately,
it would have been nice, you know, it would have
been nice. All right. Our final segment allows you the
opportunity to compete for Donk of the Year, send in
pictures of Sewel's wife, or maybe show us your artwork.
This one's called fan submissions. You've got mail fures El

(01:32:40):
viewers is what we attract our first ones from Christian.
He says it was awesome meeting him. Really am a
big fan, yeah, and was kind of geeking out. Apologies
for squinting the entire time while I was talking to Luke,
but I was really high. I ran into Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
He was the highest man I've ever so.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
For context, this is Luke Thomas last weekend in Las
Vegas at Xcess see fifty three. Christian said, I ran
into Robbie Lawler when he's coming out of the restroom,
which was sick as f two. Got to meet Alexa
and by Sunger. Also, the fighter who lost in the
night's first spout sat in front of me and I
got to talk to him extensively as well. Was a
fun short event. Please watch one Championship one seventy three

(01:33:25):
and talk about it. It's one of the most stacked
cards I've ever seen on paper. If he if he
hasn't seen the card, bring it up on tech Typology
and read it to Luke. Thanks peace. I think Christian
was high when he wrote this email too, but.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Great, super friendly. Uh you know, talk to me after
the show. You know, high as a kite, but you
know him, him and the dude he was with were real,
real cool dude show.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Talkers talk close talker definitely, No, no.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Not so bad. Just you know, you could just tell
he was you know he was. He had he had
gummies in this tummy understanding.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Robbi Lawler. Ga, Hi,
a little smile, lill have smile there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Yeah, Robbie was there. Alexa Grosso was there, Diego Lopez
was there, as he mentioned, Susirkayev is there? Yeah, bunch of.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Don John Shelby I think was there too.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
Joe Shelby was there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
All right, let's go to our second one from Doctor Sweatpants.
What a name right there? Damned the MK shirt or sorry,
donned the MK shirt amongst the sea of wooks with
my fiance at Red Rocks. It was a two day
series to celebrate the final show of Tipper and Og
and the glitch Hop and EDM scene out of the

(01:34:32):
uk BC. Please give him a thorough listen. You won't
regret it. So I'm supposed to cueue up Tipper and
EDM legend, Luke, But what do you make of Doctor
Sweatpants rock and our tie die with his lady there
at the world famous Red Rocks Concert Hall there in
not hall but outdoor historic venue in Colorado.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
Yeah, the venue is sick and they seem like nice people.
But I'd rather, you know, I'd rather be shot in
the butt with an arrow then listen to this music.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Okay? No Tipper on Luke's stereo later today? You think
Shaquille MALJUDI listens to Tipper or.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
What Oh he does that and then he'll just text
you his thoughts mid song.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
It's like yeah yeah with his piece in his hand.
Yeah yeah, no doubt about it. All right, I'll have
what is what is that?

Speaker 5 (01:35:19):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Long Island? Look, you don't listen to d M right,
you just take ecstasy regularly?

Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
No comment?

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Okay, all right? Here is Naeumania. Hi, donks. I had
a little spare time this month, so while listening to
my favorite MMA show, I decided to make an animation
of your logo. This is not AI. I hope you
like it. Oh yeah, I kind of like it a lot.

(01:35:47):
So far, so good, Namania says, big shout out to
the vape Master.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
Dam dude, that is fucking sick.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
Can we add that to Morning Combat? Please? Let make
seriously big shout out to the vape Master and the
Glizzy Buster, and greetings from Macedonia. If you ever visit
southeastern Europe, maybe you can do a live show here.
Just a warning in advance. We don't put urnal cakes,
but we have super bangable wives. That's pneumonia. Long Island. Look,
can you find use for Naumania's Macedonian MK intro.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
Yeah, mate, we can make it one of your What
about arangatois.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Yeah, I think you have animation, but it's sick.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Yeah, that is pretty damn sick, not Ai at all,
So take that. Thank you, Namania. I thought your country
was called North Macedonia. Didn't they change the name? What
do you make a country's change in their names?

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
Liz Well, I mean we we call it South Korea,
but Koreans just don't they just call Korea?

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
Probably? Yeah, yeah, all right, all right. Uh we got
one here from Ben. He says, if Cap and Iron
Man can go tip to tip, so can the rest
of us. Not sure why he's holding him like that,
but it reminded me of the duo. So here you go.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
They gave you my beard?

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
Yeah they did. That's probably from that time that one
of our donks switched up our facial hair and our
hair on top to make us look like each other.
What is the what are they saying in those bubbles?
Can you read that?

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
I don't, Yeah, just as Jessica Jones, Hey morning.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
It's censored by the North Korean censors. I think I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
By the way, did you see some of those cast
offs that weren't allowed to be played this week. They were,
they were racing.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
We should tell, we should tell the audience. We got Okay,
we got some. We got several submissions this week that
I can only tell you had me BC and the
entire staff crying of laughter. However, when I say completely
impossible to air without us losing our jobs BC, am

(01:37:45):
I in any way exaggerating?

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Let's just say they involved cake Lady and a specific
September holiday.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Oh they involved more than that. They involved much more
than that. I mean, all right, they didn't be It
might have involved the BBC, but it wasn't the British
Broadcasting Corporate.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
No, No, not that BBC. It was more like black raw.
You know where I'm going with that. All right, Hey,
here's wes. He says, was up LTBC and l L
you know us tonks love y'all and off the MK.
So I decided to ask AI what you guys do
after leaving the MK studio and these were the results.
First we see mister body for days, Thomas boarding public

(01:38:26):
transportation that he loves.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
My God, look at the name of the train, it's
the Joseph A. Bank.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
He's not ted Kaczynski, but he does have his own
issues with technology, and it looks like he's about to
cause an explosion.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
Haha, this is amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
The second one says, we see the president of the
Black Liver Society himself. Seems BC hasn't been paid off
by Turkey and TKO quite yet.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Look at the cans of whips.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
So in the meantime he's got the meats and possible
brain damage at his current second job. I look handsome
in that outfit, don't I Right there? That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Look your round ass face. You look like a fucking potato.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
I do right now too. The third one, Boyfriend of
the Year, mister Bong Island, looks to be enjoying the
seventeenth hour of live streaming PRELIMBS Regional MMA with his
totally real girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
Look at that plate of marijuana, dude, these are amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
L I l is that your actual lady there? No?

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
Obviously not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
I wasn't sure if she was GoF like that. I
really wasn't sure. All right, Hope you guys and the
donks enjoyed this little insight to your lives outside the show.
Salute it's West. Well done, West, Well done.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Very well done, very funny.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
All right, we got a guy here who doesn't use
AI at all, and he's an artiste, average Joe art
who says, I've been thinking about doing something like this
with MK for years, and I was finally able to
pull the trigger. Playing off my love for old monster
pulp artwork. I present Frank and Luke meets Donkula, the
swashed Monster mash in history.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
He.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
Says. Also included are some of the concept sketches I
did along the way. LT was much trickier to figure out,
since the initial sketch ended up looking more like a
bearded James Gun. I saw an ad for Mars attacks
and decided to go with that open brain idea. If
you look at the sketch, you can see what's on
LT's mind. Donkeylo was much much easier to figure out.
If you can, please make sure you zoom in on

(01:40:32):
his attire and the credits at the bottom. This is
great work from Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
Wow, this is look at that. Oh, we're just setting
it up for the sales. Of course. We are that
that one is special. That one is special. I want,
but I can't read. There's a button that you're wearing
what does it say?

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
Long a look? Can you read that on yours?

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
Fuck?

Speaker 4 (01:40:53):
He sent me a text of it. Let me let
me check the text.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
Uh. He would also say, while I continue to get
hounded for l T ANDBCX solo merch, there's one idea
I get asked about the most as an animal dad. Now,
if twelve I couldn't resist. I feel like it was
appropriate for the month of October. So that's probably Joe's
Oh boy, oh boy, look at that. Look at mister
October right there.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
Imagine the light in his eyes going away when I
euthanization rip booger.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Come on, look, imagine that on an MK shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
That is That's cool, that's great. Yeah, that's great. Reggie
Jackson is the man I love.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
Oh shot out Well, to go back to the button,
the button says one blood instead of one love Oh nice,
and then the tie has like stripes on it, and
each stripe says one fifteen on it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Oh, that is brilliant right there.

Speaker 5 (01:41:45):
Wow, LT's brain says like bbl's stress and something else.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
I love that. It's like a comic book cover there.
That would make a good shirt, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
Damn it makes my joaster too.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
Joe would close the energy It says energy drinking.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
Well, Joe says, while it may be ineligible to retain
my twenty twenty three Donk of the Year status, I
like to think I would have been a strong contender
this year. Saoul A has us all beat with that
dimebag action figure. Well, there's still time this year. I'm
sure both guys are in nomination. Luke, would you guess that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
I would guess that that would be correct? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
All right? That is your fan submissions. Remember you can
send in your own to Morning Combat at gmail dot com.
And speaking of merch, one final time here for September.
It's your last chance here to get the exclusive Black
Liver Society Cracker Barrel lt or the signed TMNT poster.

(01:42:43):
Head on over to Morning Combat dot shop. Don't forget
we got evergreen items there. You can mix the callers.
Get one for your a Bueila before her wake. Great
stuff right there, all right. Also, this podcast has been
presented to you by Draftings DraftKings. The Crown is yours

(01:43:05):
nearly two hours of fury on this Friday. I hope
all you are doing well. I hope you enjoy the
Perth fights. If that's your pleasure. On Saturday, you can
like and subscribe. It goes a long way for this show,
and also support our channels. Don't forget. I got Alex
Pereira today, pfl's John Martin next week. Lou you got
anything to plug?

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
I was gonna do a watch along for Saturday's card,
but I don't think I'm gonna do one it. I
don't know if anyone's gonna be watching. However, I will
have something ready on Sunday morning for a recap, so
that should be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
Okay, Bong Island, Luke, can we send people to the
main card minute for anything? Maybe in like forty minutes?

Speaker 5 (01:43:42):
Yeah, and forty minutes Championship drops BC vers Shack. Also
tomorrow I'll be doing a full card watch along. It's
part baby. You know I'll be there also, go to
Long Cats Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
How are you prioritizing this card over a genuine human contact?

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
I have a family party. We talked about this pre show.

Speaker 5 (01:43:58):
I got a party to go do Saturday, and then
you know it's everyone's complaining about this late start.

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
It's actually working out perfectly for me, so I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
There.

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
It is, Thank you very much, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
You know he's not a school shooter, but he also
needs to touch grass, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
Wow? Wow, I go out barefoot every night to take
the dogs out Looke just to just to get grounded.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
Yeah, that's not a real thing, but it doesn't surprise me,
be it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
Yeah, I believe in dom Reis. On Saturday, let's see
what happens even though I picked him. Oh yeah, but
I believe in him deep inside. You know what I'm
hedging pick him.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
You didn't pick him, but you want him to win.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
That is how it works. Yes, that is how it works.
Shout out to Carlos Oldberg. Though I do like him
as well. It would be interesting to see if he
could get a finish here and advance on. But that's
it for the show for this guy, Reggie, who's going
to be on a T shirt one day. Rich Can
you play ball here for a second? Oh yeah, look
at this handsome fellow. Look at this.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Yoh he does not want to be up in your grill.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
Oh he's looking at the birds out the window. That
that takes priority. Sorry Rech for Long Island, Luke for LT.
This has been morning combat enjoy your weekend, take care
of yourselves. Monday, we'll be back from home, but don't
forget a week from today in Studio LTBC Cuervo, UFC
three twenty pregame preview featuring special guests Jed Meshu number two.

(01:45:18):
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