UFC Perth: Ulberg Brutally Stops Reyes | PFL Nurmagomedov-Hughes 2 | Wanderlei Silva post-fight KO?? - MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Reveale.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Look at this now, tip top.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Jesus. Oh do you want to.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Using will be? Well, it's time to beg Oh yeah,
let's go, let's do this thing. Monday, September twenty ninth
of the twenty five This right here, Morning Combat. Hey,
how are you happy to be here? Brian Campbell, one

(00:47):
half of your hosting duo live in direct from Alphaville
in Connecticut, and of course the man next to me today,
Luke Thomas of Washington, d C. We've got a show
for you. We're gonna recap you at se Perth. We're
gonna react to the big announcement between t KO Zupa
Boxing and my company, Paramount CBS, and also look ahead

(01:07):
to the big storylines of this weekend's fights. Maybe even
bring up vander Ley Silva getting sent to the uh
to the basement room of of Hades. Hey, Luke Thomas,
how are you? Bro? You still there?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
What's going on? Broh? Everything's coming up? Campbell? Huh, look
at this nice turn of the screw for you. You
got the first interview with Dana right yeah, and uh,
you know there's gonna be Zupa Boxing at your place
and UFC at your place now as I understand it,
I know. We'll talk about this in a minute. The
ZUFA boxing deal is five years Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
That was not in the press release or came out
dalk to me, but I'm told, but it was in
one of the I think Front Office Sports are one
of those reports.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Had Okay, all right, because I was gonna say I
didn't see anything in the press release, and then I
saw some people sharing that, and I'm like, we which
is either way, buddy, it's incoming for you.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, it's what a what a You know, I'm used
to getting screwed luke lately, but I mean, you know,
not in the traditional sense, of course, I'm a married man.
But uh, I mean and now, yes, now we've tamed
the screw. I think that's a literary reference. Yeah, there
we go, right there. Uh yeah, what it's time to
be alive here at Paramount CBS. I am expecting some
fun and big things ahead.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Just don't kill me, folks. Okay, all right, it's a
new time in journalism. All right, thank you very much.
There we go. Uh, fantastic to be here. LT Are
there riots in the streets of DC? Everything going?

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, No, streets are pretty empty.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Actually, oh okay, yeah, maybe a.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Little hot this weekend, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, dude, this weather's been fantastic. I mean, how boring
is this show? Talk about the weather?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah? I know, two douchebags in their forties. Oh what
the weather's nars?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
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The same out to you on YouTube maybe even hew
hell to your audio only listeners like Aaron Bronstetter who
listens to have you seen this ship and doesn't watch it?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Very bro? Bro? Have you seen this?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
This?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
What is that thing?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
So? This is a this is fress Fress is a Colita.
This is I think I know this is packaged in Miami,
but I think you can get it basically in big
parts of Latin America. This is their This is their
zero calorie one. Brother did an energy drink Luke, No,
just normal like soda, you know what I mean? And

(03:34):
it has it's caffeine free. Caffeine free, dude, this one
tastes amazing. This is an amazing drink, highly recommended. Fress Frase.

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(04:32):
director uh a ruthless streamer these days of undercards. He
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Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, boys, I don't have a Kolito with me, but
you know, stripping, stripping drinking some coffee instead, you know.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, a little bit of coffee.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Did you Did you stream the entire Australian stream?

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Not only did I stream the entire card? Luke went
perfect betting on the card, by the way.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Absolute Neil Magni.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Thank god the ref fixed that ship because if that
fight ended in the first round would have lost that bet.
But hit the over one and a half, So thank
you to that ref. Good weekend, boys, good week wow?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh wait wait Long Island.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well it was a good weekend for your betting. I
don't know if it was a good weeknd for your girlfriend.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yeah, it wasn't a good weekend for the Geelong Cats,
my dad's team.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
They did lose in the final on Sunday. That was
like competing with the UFC in Australia.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
It was technically our Friday night, so it was a
day before the UFC. But uh we watched it sat
I watched it like pregaming for the Perth card.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
So you know, I wonder if we're giving Luke's no
Sita's dad's libido too much, too much praise, right Yeah?
I mean, I mean he may have been horned up
years ago, but now he's an old p os uh
Luke Luke Nocia do you take your Do you like
your coffee like you like your women or what?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (05:46):
No comment? I like my coffee black though, I'll say that.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Wow all right, yeah, get out, Wow.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
All right, we do have a decent show ahead of you.
Anything else, Luke Thomas, you want to tell the people, Uh,
you got anything the pump right now? I mean, you know,
besides your own your own Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
That's cranking my own genitals. Yeah, I mean, I'll have
some stuff out this weekend today as a matter of fact,
So stay tued on LGPTQ. Okay, okay, dad jokes. We're
going back to the well on this one, going back
to the well. I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
We'll see, all right, Hey, we might as well get
into this fantastic program that is right in your face, hoole.
So let's do it with topic number one. Hey, the
tour of TAFA was canceled this weekend, but UFC Perth
still went off over there at the Western Western rim
of Australia, and we did get a main event that mattered,
and we did get a decisive finish as Carlos Olberg

(06:42):
quickly dispatched a streaking thirty five year old Dominic Res,
stopping him in the first round with a two punch
combo and a little GNP to finish the job. There's
no question that this sets black Jag up to face
the winner of the UFC three twenty malgamed Echolia versus
Perira fight, or is there You could also ask Yeri

(07:03):
versus Khalil that same night that same question, but Luke
Thomas I kind of echo here the idea that he
may have passed the line here. So the question is
based on this performance really being the most decisive to
date against a either e lead or sub alleponent. Here,
do you like Olberg's chances regardless of what happens in

(07:25):
that YEARI versus Khalil fight to get that next shot,
because nine wins in a row is hard to come by,
and when you were out there and decisively finish Don
reyis the way he did. Yeah, you got our attention.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I had someone asked me this last week BC, which was, oh,
don't you think at light heavyweight we have a similar
situation to what we at least previously had at middleweight
where Hamzat's the champion and then on one side of
the bracket was Fluffy RDR. We know that Fluffy is out,
but for a moment in time that was one side
of the bracket. Then the other side of the bracket
was Hemo evolving Bohoalio, and the question was don't we
have something similar at two to five, namely on one

(07:59):
side Olberg and Reyes and then the other side of
Yuri and Khalil and I I don't think that analogy
works exactly the same. I mean, I suppose on some
level it is true. Right where roundtree. If he goes
and beat Zeri Prahadchka, this would obviously extend the wind streak.
It maybe would be the best win of his career.
I mean, there's a lot you could do from that.

(08:20):
So that's that's important if you're YEARI. He obviously got
back against Jamal Hill. If he wins, then you know,
especially if on Calia ends up emerging champion fresh matchup,
if he gets a spectacular knockout, you couldn't rule that out.
But it just seems to me like Olberg is the guy.
The win streak is the I think the third longest
among UH light heavyweight streaks ever, I think nine wins

(08:41):
or something like that, like John for second. Yeah, so
for a second, excuse me. So, I mean it's not
the same as John Jones's win streak, but it's any
any win fight metric one time told me like, it's
very rare actually for and this was a few years ago,
something I've changed now, but like a lot of five
never in the UFC, never ever developed even three fight

(09:03):
win streaks. It's actually like, you know, not unheard of,
of course, but you know, statistically anyway, not the most
common thing. We're on a guy here with the second
longest one in this division ever that has to be respected.
More to the point, BC, you know, listen, I wanted
to take a flyer on the Dominic Rayas story. I
really did. I wanted to see him turn that corner
and become you know, to prove why skepticism is can

(09:24):
be real, but not to always be obeyed. But of course, dude,
we don't get endings like that in MMA. It's fucking brutal.
And the reality is Olberg speed the game planned by Rays,
which I do want to dig into when we have
time here in a minute, Dude, Olberg dispatched him. Elberg
did exactly what he was supposed to do. I don't
really like the idea of him flying overseas and becoming

(09:45):
the backup for this coming Saturday's main event. Although you know,
not the worst thing in the world, but you get
my point. Like I thought that the scales were tilted
in his favor anyway, and then he delivered exactly what
he needed to do. BC. Do I think he can
beat either of those guys. I wouldn't favor him to
do it, but you've got to respect what he's put together.

(10:07):
It's very impressive. His time is due.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, I mean, he maybe thirty four years old, and
the whole thing about him only being eleven months younger
than Reyes surprised a lot of people all over. The
experience gap obviously was wider, but it didn't matter. He
looks like he's in his twenty seven year old prime.
There the elusiveness, the power, the speed, the accuracy on
his punches. It was extremely impressive. The manner in which

(10:30):
he went in there, how he carried himself, the poise,
and then the way he delivered the finish right there.
I've doubted people's credentials or ability in the past, but
then you get sometimes the performance. I thought Laren Murphy
did the same thing. I didn't take him oh so
seriously as a contender. Then he did what he did
to Aaron Pico. There and it really opens your eyes.

(10:51):
I don't know, by the way, if he's going to
get the volt shot next or if he's going to
get passed over by Mosar, But I really feel like
when you add in the fact that there's been a
lot of parody in this division that both YEARI and Khalil,
who will be facing off, have tried and failed for
the title in recent years. YEARI twice, of course, after
having been champion. This is the fresh matchup we need.

(11:13):
This is a you know, fresh face guy. I mean,
you know Luke. I don't need to tell you how
handsome he is either, but when you have the performances
he had in recent fights against big names where he
didn't steal your heart or he didn't show you that
he's got something for whoever will be champion by the
time he gets there, I think this performance changed that.
I agree with you that would be too premature to

(11:34):
favor him against either guy due to their skill set,
due to the devastating power that at Pereira brings, etc.
But talk about putting yourself in position, That's exactly what
this gentleman did. And by this gentleman, I don't need
I don't necessarily mean, mister October, but his month is
starting very soon. Let's hear from one Carlos Alberg about
where he believes he stands after such a dominant performance.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
Speaking to Hunt earlier in the cage or just after
the fight, I told him that, you know, I asked
him to fly Hi meto Vegas. He said sweet or good,
So we're good. Now we're gonna fly to Vegas. And
then I also said then and there, but it didn't confirm,
and I said, I.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Will be the backup for that fight. I'm here to.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
Two break records, man, and uh, this is what I
want to do. I don't think anyone has I don't
think from from from my from the top of mine,
but it is. I don't think anyone has fought a fight.
And then also the very next weekend fight for the title.
That's what I envisioned. That's what I feel like can happen.

(12:40):
So I put it in the air, I said to
but I just want to be there. I want to
be there anyway at first, but then if they can
make me the backup, that'd be awesome. If anyone falls out,
then I'm there. I'll get the job done. Both guys
would be massive. For sure, fighting Peeta will be historical massive.
He's got a big following. Everyone loves the guy, and

(13:02):
finishing someone like him would be awesome, because well, fighting
and someone like him would be great on its own.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
But then when you look at.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
Unclive, who's who's been dominant, and and he's also beaten Beta,
you beat someone like him, it just means you at
the top.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
It means no one can touch you.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
And that's what I want.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
I want to make sure I beat the beast. So
if you want to be the best, if you want
to be the man, you got to beat the man.
And right now I'm the man.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I don't even have a title.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
I'm the man.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
So look, I fully agree that he's the man, and
I certainly don't want to turn this into negative after
his performance, but I agree with with the sentiments you
sort of tease toward earlier. The only thing I don't
like is being that willing to throw yourself into a
backup opportunity so soon. It's not like this is an
overly congested title picture. Nobody seems to ever get nine

(13:56):
fight wind streaks before getting a title shot, although Fluffy's
getting close and middleweight, it feels like, yeah, be there,
show up, be prepared to get into the cage if
the if the promotion lets you afterwards to do a
face off. But don't be that desperate where you're cutting
weight and you're you know, kind of hoping on an injury.
Why would you want to fight the biggest fight of
your life on a short turnaround with no preparation like that.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, I mean I get, I get what he so.
I here's what he might be thinking. He might be thinking,
strike while the iron is hot. You know, these guys,
they believe in having their own visions quite literally, like
seeing their future play out, acting upon it, believing that
like now is your time, keep the momentum rolling, And

(14:39):
you could imagine why he would feel that way. He
had a spectacular win main event. We thought he might
get the title shot off to the Blokhovic fight, but
it certainly was not a very convincing win. Dude, this
was I mean, yes, you can say in the end,
and we need to talk about it here in a minute,
that Reyes has the chin is it's just almost going
to be a liability at this point, right, I mean,
there's just no way around that. But again, Olberg did

(14:59):
exact what you would have expected from him, and then
some and so you can understand where he would feel
that way. But to your point, BC, it almost feels
a little bit desperate, where if he does it, hold
on to it, it's gonna slip like sand between his fingers,
you know, like he doesn't does he really believe that
he's got it locked up? And it seems like he
doesn't even believe that, not fully, and so he wants

(15:21):
to just race across the ocean to you know, kind
of plant a flag. And I think that nervousness would
not serve him well long term. Again, I think it's
likely he gets the title shot, not iron clod, but likely.
And whenever you think of his chances, it's certainly meritorious
and give yourself, especially especially against guys who I think
are better than him, especially in on Colia's case, give

(15:45):
yourself a chance to win this fight. And doing that
by racing across the Pacific Ocean is probably not the
best idea.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, I think a flight from Perth to anywhere will
take off at least, you know, two weeks at the
end of your life, I mean, probably worse than a
Cumberland farms died of hot dogs. Although I've been there, Luke,
when we spin it back to Reys here, look I
was you know, I wasn't disappointed. I ultimately fell Olberg
was going to get the job done. And we told
you about the odds being plus five point fifty coming
in on DraftKings that Oldberg would finish him. But I

(16:15):
guess it was a little disappointing from the standpoint of
expecting or hoping for a you know, extended competitive main
event to see how quickly Reys ultimately succumbed and to
see how clean those punches landed. Taking nothing away from Rees,
was there was this more about what Reyes. I'm sorry,
take nothing away from Oldberg. Is there an argument to

(16:37):
be made that this was a little bit more about
Reus not moving his head in that key moment or
do you think the setup on those shots were just
perfect timing, perfect moment there for Olberg my.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Hope in this fight. And you'll recall that I said
it on Friday, which was I wanted Reyes to be
mixing it up and that to have some kind of solution.
You saw that long guard. We talked about it, right,
that long guard that he uses, and I thought he
would be better about implement at least some kind of
challenge to that, but he just there just wasn't one.
I mean, here's my response to what the fight was
BC Like, it was exactly what the oddsmakers thought it

(17:10):
was going to be, you know what I mean, it
fulfilled it from either end. On the one end, like
that particular style matchup, with the durability issues that Reyes has,
and then to your point that just the defensive issues,
like even if you had a good chin, you're still
going to get plastered by some of those punches that Reyes.
Excuse me that Olberg was throwing like it was just
a bad style matchup. And you know, again wish casting

(17:33):
for Reyes because you thought he had a sympathetic story,
which is what I tried. Just just not realistic. And
the fight game, it's dude, this is why GSP and
you know Habib had very carefully planned exits because the
fight game will begin to chew you to pieces if
you let it.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
So Yeah, Reyes would put a statement out on Instagram
after the fight saying congratulations to Carlos. Just wasn't my night.
God is good? All ways? Uh do you think Oldberg
look this division is known for sluggers, for finishers at
the elite level, you know, Yearie Jamal Khalil. I mean,

(18:11):
these guys all can deliver and get you out of there.
And that's just a small handful of them. When you
go up and down the rakings, you know you're gonna
add in Ozdemir, You're gonna add in a lot more wreckage.
Do you think Olberg is at the very least showing
that that combination of speed, power in the setup, the elusiveness,
he's becoming one of the more dangerous offensive fighters in
this in this game, if not this division, all the

(18:33):
way around this division, if not this game. At the moment,
are you going to buy into that?

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I think he's got a pretty fun counter striking game.
You know, he could also go forward to and which
he did, which he did in this one, but the
way in which he is able to elicit in this
particular case, Reyes the pressure Like so he was the
one pressuring Rays, but then Reyes was a little bit
far away and then want to close the final distance
and that's where he bop up op, you know, pieced

(18:59):
them up. And he did it a couple times before
the final sequence too, like he had his number, you
know what I mean, in the end, Carlos Olberg had
his number. I don't know what else there is to
say about it, but it's like, how does that match
up with Unclelive or Poeton? You know, could I imagine
him catching Poeton? I could? But I think Olberg, what
you saw in that Blahovic fight can be naturally very defensive,

(19:20):
and he wasn't in this one. But you know, Poeton's
a different challenge, and in Uncliav's case, Uncle IV is
just gonna be able to mix it up on him
in ways that I think that's gonna be. You know,
there are good reasons to believe that Olberg might fall
short against either and in particular against Unclelive, who is
not as strong striker as Poeton in pure terms obviously,

(19:41):
but that ability to mix that up down is gonna
be real, real difficult. I think for him. He can
be pressured back. B See, it's not like Olberg's got like, oh,
terrible takedown defense and you know he's getting rocked in
every fight. He did get laid out obviously previously in
the UFC, but in general that's not necessarily what the
tape shows and again under the right circumstances, a real

(20:02):
fun long guard counter striking game. That's a ret's a
real fun thing, and as you can see, he'll beat
some pretty decent guys with it. Is it good enough
to beat on Calive and poets on? I wouldn't bet
that way.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Interesting, He's going to have to prove it a little
bit more to close on race here at thirty five,
this does feel like the end of his comeback chapter
to the idea of being a true title contender and
a division that is kind of wide open with a
lot of parody. But would you take it even further?
I mean, would you do the Joe roganshab bid here
and essentially advise him that there's really nowhere else to

(20:39):
go at this age but to walk away? Or is
that too harsh? Too soon? Brother? Eel you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Brother eugh, No, it's not too soon. It's not too soon.
It's not the end of his career. In all likelihood,
it's not the end of his career. And more importantly,
I don't I just think he's going to try and
keep going. But you know he's been flat lined ko
how many times? Now? Four times?

Speaker 7 (21:04):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah? So yeah, four times. So this one the Yearie.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Fight Ryan Spanny got knocked out cold.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
He got knocked out cold in that one, and then
I forget the other one. But you know, or maybe
this is three times getting flat lined, chaot whatever. It's
plenty to say nothing of what's happened in the gym,
to say no forgetting about uh blahovich, blahovich. That's the
right one. Yep, thank you, it was. I knew I
was forgetting one. You see, we'll talk about this later
with Vandelia Silva, who is a whole other level of this,

(21:35):
to the point where you're like, I don't we'll talk
about that, yeah, but this is and I'm not saying
we're close to that either, because that's like uniquely special.
But what I am saying is, dude, if you've been
flattened three times, to say nothing of the gym wars,
to say nothing of you know, all the other things
that go from complications from weight cutting or it just
the lifetime doing it. Dude, you're talking about extraordinary damage

(21:56):
to your brain. You have to protect it. You know,
once or twice going out in a fight career is
quite understandable. Three or more, and now you've got a problem.
I do believe. I do believe that's a bit of
a dividing line for me. I agree, and I'm a
little bit If you're in his corner, I'll wrap it
up here. If you're in his corner, you have to
at least have a conversation about what the game plan

(22:17):
is going forward, right, like what are we trying to
accomplish and what kind of fights are we going to take,
because just what meandering through is probably gonna end up
having him back in a situation like this.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I fully agree. There's different kinds of stoppages, you know
what I mean. There's stoppages when you've taken too much
punishment but you're still standing. There's stoppages when you're just
covering up on the ground because you don't want to continue.
And then there's the ones where you're somewhat routinely at
the highest level, when you do lose knocked out cold.
That's just what it is, and you can only take
so many of those. So we'll see what happens there.
But big moment for Alberg. He stepped up and he

(22:48):
looked even better than I thought he would. So it
might be black Jags hour here. Let's keep the show rolling.

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all right. Topic number two coming right back at you.
Perth gave us a few things to talk about up
and down the card despite the cancelations. No top of bros,

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et cetera, et cetera. First and foremost, though, Luke Thomas,
what the hell happened? And that fight between Neil Magni
and Jake Matthews, an absolute wild fight in which Magni
respawned after seemingly tapping out. What if anything, should have
been done about the fact that it looked like Magni

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was submitted to close the first round, only to rally
in the final round to get one of his obviously
big up to the veteran. But this was a weird
handling altogether this fight.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Dude, I don't even understand what rule was obeyed, right,
like if my understanding of the rules and I reviewed
them over the weekend, I don't know exactly which ones
Australia is implementing. I want to be clear about that.
They might have some various and particularly that province, because
that's how it's regulated in Australia. They might have a separate,
special set of bylaws that don't follow that. But once

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the referee waves it, you don't get to like, oh, oh,
actually it's the end of the round, no, dude, Like
you can you can wave it at the end of
the round like simultaneously and the tie will not go
to the runner like you waived it. Now if you
wave it after the belts a little bit different and
then the rules get a little bit jenky. I'm basically
straight up what rule was he obeying that allowed him

(25:52):
to do that? I don't even know what's what rule
it is.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I don't even I'm still kind of confused at what
even happened. There was a big shit show to end it,
but I thought for hundred percent that fight's over. No
SNA loses his parlays, you.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Know, Yeah, no, no, no kidding. Now, let me say
a couple of things, like, dude, you you you've sat
you know, ringside or whatever for fights. Dude, I had
an issue at the last xFC event where I thought
a guy was out. I mean I was certain he
was out and that the referee missed it, and then
sure enough the guy loses it and he was totally fine.

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Like I know that sometimes Joe Rogan gets a little
bit of flat because he's always like he's out, he's out,
and then the person escapes. I will tell you, if
you're watching it in person, that's a much harder thing
to detect. I know the referee was kind of on
top of him, but I'm just gonna say, let he
who was without sin cast the first stone on this one.
I have fucked this one up royally before. However, however,
it just goes back to a very basic point, like

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there's a set of protocol in place, and once the
once a referee waives it, there's no going back. What
I will say is BC is that whether or not
that rule should be reviewed and to what extent instant
replay could have extended the life of that fight or
gone back and done something I was talking about this
with Long Island Luke. Normally, BC I don't ever recommend

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fighters challenging you know something. For example, they don't like
a judge's decision in a fight, and it'll even be
admittedly bad, and then they'll want to challenge it with
a commission. This is a path to nowhere. Unless the
call was you know, wrong from arithmetic level, they're not
going to review it. Or you can prove collusion among
the judges, which naturally is going to require a very

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high evidentiary bar. They're not even going to just entertain
what you have to say. But dude, they might on
this one. They might on this one. Jake Matthews might
have a call, especially since he ended up losing in
the third, which, by the way, do you realize he's
never had a three fight win streak. I'll double check
that in a second. Consider how long he's been in
the UFC. He's never had a three fight win streak.
That's what I'm talking about when we talk about Carlos

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Oliberg a minute ago. These kinds of wind streaks you're
seeing are pretty rare.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, yeah, pretty rare. Indeed, he's had such an interesting
career go ahead, Long Island.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
Jake Matthews was on a three fight win streak coming
into this.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Coming into this one, excuse me, I apologize. How many
does he have beyond that?

Speaker 5 (28:05):
He had another one from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Did I read the wrong effing record? Oh no, no, no,
he's probably never had longer than a three, longer than
a three fighter Jesus, my lord, have mercy.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Okay, yeah, you sound like the refereal here. I mean,
that guy waved the fight off. I don't care what
anybody says. He waved the right time, and then he
acted like he didn't right, I mean, and then the
announcers were like, well, good thing, this fight wasn't waved off.
And I agree, it turned into this crazy back and
forth fight, but it seemed a million times over obvious.
I mean, no, Seida, how much were you sweat?

Speaker 4 (28:34):
And during that sequence so literally he called the fight off,
and Brendan Fitzgerald on comms is like, the fight is off.
Jake Matthews wins by submission. Then Neil Magne gets right up,
his arm went limp. That's why the ref stepped in there.
They played the replay probably three times on the broadcast,
it's as clear as day. The ref says he's out,
steps in, touches them both. A second goes by, two

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seconds go by, the horn goes off, so it's very
clearly before the round ended. I don't know how they
let it slide, I was saying to Luke pre show.
It just felt like the ref realized he fucked up.
Neil wasn't actually out, so in the moment he just decided, Oh,
we'll just pretend that was the end of the round
and we'll keep it moving. But it's so messed up
to everyone. Should have been a no contest, but did
hit the over So I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, But here's the reality. Either way, the referee is
fucking somebody because if you stop that fight, Magne's not out,
that's a bad stoppage. If you keep it going in
contravention to the rules, well now you're fucking Jake Matthews.
So like, either way, a really bad call by that
ref Even if they're hard to do, especially now with
guys with a very very very very good submission resistance,

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submission defense. I admit it's a it's a difficult task,
but this is the highest level and you got to
get it right and he didn't. That's just Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
If that referee is an ex marine where there's no
such thing, he's definitely fing somebody and he's probably paying
for it.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Luke Dared, I don't even know what that joke is.
That was a winding joke to me.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, Osborne did she knew exactly what that joke was.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Look, okay, those were active tout.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, that's true. There was no payment there, just shame.
All right, that's great, right there. Let's hear from UFC's
international head Dave Shaw, who was forced to host the
pre fight press conference host the post fight, and here's
his opinion on the weird nonstoppage.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Is the referee able to continue on the fight out
to waving it off like that?

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, listen, the whole situation was strange, and I think
there's confusion where we were sitting. There are a number
of us just talking through the particulars. I think in
the end and I think everyone's going to have a
different position. But the fact pattern as we saw it was,
you know, arm went a little bit, seemed to go
a little bit limp right, like you know, Maggie's arm
kind of came out and sort of flopped a little

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bit as.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
If he was about to go out.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
My only assumption, and I don't want to speculate, my
only assumption, is that the ref assumed that he was
going out and seemed to have stopped the fight. I
think objectively and to most people, maybe have a different
when people have different opinions here, but it seemed like
he stopped the fight, and he stopped the fight importantly
before the bell. Now there didn't seem to be much
time before the bell, and so that's where the confusion,

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you know started. Jake got off because of the bell
very clearly, you know, the ref thought that thought that
Neil was sort of coming to or he was fine,
and then allowed the fight to continue.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
So where do we go from here?

Speaker 3 (31:27):
I mean, Matthews is he's able, his camp's able to
lodge some sort of appeal. But this is all in
the hands of the Western Australian Collbat Commission and so
it's up to them to determine what the next step is.
And honestly, I'm not really sure what the scope of
the process would be and whether or not they would
levy a no decision, but there seemed to be a mistake. Now,

(31:48):
I should say that over our time in Western Australia,
the you know, Anthony Grover and his team have done
a tremendous job and they've been very instrumental in the
ongoing progress and regulation of combat sports in this state,
and they've been a pleasure to work with. So the
only comment I think we should make as the promoter,

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and by the way, promoter of both athletes is this
is in the hands of the Commission to figure out
what to do next.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Look, whether or not you liked his answer, I'm starting
to like David Shaw. He seems like a sensible person
on that side.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
You know, it seems like a reasonable fellow, right, I
mean like him, does like him. Maybe he's right, maybe
he's wrong, but it looked like he tried to think
that one through and give an honest response. We buy
and large and yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
All right, tough break there for Jake Matthews, but you
know he's ready to bang regardless. That's what he does.
The old man Magni though, got the win and starting
to really add up what Neil Magne has accomplished over
the totality of his career. We can call him a
compiler all we want, but he's still the guy you
have to go through at we welter wait to find
out if you're legit. And how about this? On the

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all time wins list, breaking free from the pack, which
includes and Andrea Rolovsky, Donald Cerni, Max Holloway, and Doe Bronx,
Olivera to become second place all by himself for most
wins in UFC history with twenty four three away from
the still active Jim Miller. And when you consider that
Holloway and Olivera probably not close to done yet. I

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mean closer, but not close. I'd have to believe that
those standings will change. But Luke, what do we say here?
Tip of the hat to Magne for not giving up.
He's always in shape, he seems to always be evolving
his game. We have seen his ceiling a bunch of times,
but that was a pretty gnarly win regardless of that.
BS nonstoppage, dude, Magni is the ultimate test for like, Okay,

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are you gonna be something or not?

Speaker 1 (33:47):
You know, like that's just where I mean, that's not
always what he's been, but that's certainly what he is now.
And if you're you know, if you're not buttoned up
in your game a little bit. He there's a decent
chance he might find it. He's for the most part given,
you know, talking he's got a lot of miles on him.
But he's a I mean, he's like dude, when everyone
talks about like, oh, so and so has veteran savvy

(34:08):
and like what that means. It's, you know, they kind
of know what their game is. They kind of know
what works, and they can't always make it work. But
if you know, they they know the little pockets to
in fights, to hide and how to advance their attack,
and you know, they just have a clear sense about
how to make the circumstances work in their favor. He
is that. He's the apotheosis of that. Also, BC not
for nothing. He's got some pretty good wins on his resume.

(34:31):
I mean, you call him a compiler, and that's that's
not unfair. But like dude, he's got wins over Kelvin Gastolum,
he's got wins, a stoppage, winnover Hector Lombard, a win
over and then some of these you know are post
prime but still Johnny Hendrix, he's got to win over
Carlos Konnat, which is certainly the post prime, the Leech,
Robbie Lawler, Jeff Neil d Rod. Dude, those are good
names on his resume. He didn't beat like nothing but

(34:53):
chumps on the prelims or something. He he had a bite,
you know, of the main course here for a little
bit and was able to have take some home with him.
Pretty impressive what he's been able to do. Dude, I'm
telling you these guys who have longevity, they're maybe not
the best fighters you've ever seen, but they also understand
something about the fight game that most other fighters cannot

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even imagine. And I really believe that's its own special
kind of trait that we should value.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Magne kind of has old guy at the park vibes
who like sleeps in his car before the pickup game
and then comes out and just like runs it wearing
sweatpants with holes in it. He's kind of he lives
the life. So shout out to him.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Is this something yet you literally did? And that's because
that's an oddly specific thing to mention.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
No, just from a town where we had we had
a lot of we had a fair amount people who
lived in their car. Look, you know what I mean
some time, it was either there or you run a
room at the YMCA for.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
You ever try and sleep in your car overnight.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I have done that yet.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, it's not comfortable.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
No, it's it's one of the worst, especially when it's cold,
you know whatever. But really that was our choice in
our town, your car or the YMCA. You know, if
you got thrown out or your parents kicked you out
or whatever. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
It was interesting.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Luke good Old what's his name there? Jake Matthews was
the only Ossie to actually lose on this card. In fact,
we had some breakthrough Ozsie performances up and down, talking
just of the down unders which Ozzy was most impressive
in your eyes on set.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
I would love to hear a long on Luke has
to say on this, especially since he did so well
on the betting. I'm gonna say Jack Jenkins for me,
you know, you've kind of all. I don't know if
he's gonna be what we had maybe hoped that he would,
but definitely he's technical. Definitely's got a fun, well put
together striking game. I love his shot selection of his accuracy.

(36:41):
He performed really well. I don't have. I mean, Navajo
Sterling is supposed to be a big le heavy of
prospect and his fight with Hudolpho Belato. I'm not gonna
say it was disappointing in the sense that it was
a bad fight or it wasn't fun. Bec it was,
but I don't know if I see breakthrough prospect there
in Sterling. It's still early. I'm not declaring it off,
but it's a little slow getting out of the gate

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for me. What about you Long Island Luke. And by
the way, the other only other ranked fighter on this
card who was opening the main card lost one wall
looked boomy.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
I think cam Rouston knocking out Andre Petroski that's the
guy for me, dude.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, that was a great performance by Hyeah. Also, it
was window the shot barely landed.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
I know, well Petroski, I don't know what happened to him,
but I was saying going into this fight that, like
cam Rouston, I was impressed by him on Contender Series,
but he had lost to Teres Finny, he lost to
someone else who was a good wrestler, and Petrotski's obviously
a good wrestler, so I was like worried about this matchup,
but he looked damn good in there. You're not wrong
about Navajo Sterling kind of looking flat. Uh yep, Jamie Malarkey,
I you know, I haven't been whatever.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Whatever. He's a good fighter, but whatever, I'm.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Nolan Australian because that guy is fantastic comeback in that.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Yeah, he had a fantastic comeback.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
But I would never say he looked great because he
got dropped in the first minute of that and then
he told.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Everybody to suck his paylotos if they don't like his
submission games.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
That was.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
That was the Aussie verse, the Long Islander, so that
was I was torn on that fight. But you know,
Colby Thickness looked damn good in round one, then kind
of gassed out a little as that fight went on.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
But also also against very questionable opposition.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
True like a stripper's name, right, yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
And then Miche.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Michelle Montau, she's a Kiwi, She's all of her wins
had come by submission coming into this, so we knew
she was gonna grapple. She took Carolina down. It was
not a great fight. There was point deductions, all this stuff.
But cam Rowson's the answer you ce.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
I once had a stripper at the Spearmint Rhino tell
me her name was Aon and I was like, how
do you spell that? She goes a E O N,
And I'm like, we don't have to pretend, like, we
don't have to do this. You can just you can
have a normal name. You know, it doesn't have to
be yours, but you don't have to like invent things
or like borrow from cartoons.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Interesting right there, anybody else turn your head, Luke. I
mean I was looking at Luma Luke Boonby's four five
wind streak there at Women's strawway.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Oh yes, what is it?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Alexia Tainara, she came in and turned that around. Pready
twenty seven on all three scorecard.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Definitely definitely and that again, I guess the only other
ranked opponent or ranked fighter I should say on this card.
So that's definitely worthwhile. But in general, dude, this was
this was overflow. This was overflow. Let's just call I mean,
we don't have to say it's every part of the product,
because it's not. But this was overflow, by the way.
Something to keep in mind. I know, the like Emma

(39:23):
on Point has been like doing these graphics where they're like,
you know, how many ranked fighters are busy, and it's
like thirty seven percent are booked, so like, you know,
a huge amount the majority are not. People have said
BC that the UFC must be hoarding some of their
talent to go like hard out of the gate in January,

(39:43):
which to me sounds like a very reasonable theory. Would
you not agree that there is clearly some reservation of resources.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Right, yeah, And I think they should and I think
they will. His history has shown that they do that
ahead of a first TV deal. And I feel like,
when you're dropping pay per view, you already paid for
the class action suit, new era. Let's go for it.
Let's let's let's load these up, all right.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Oh, when the suits aren't done though, they keep going,
there's there's other ones still on the ducket. Also, God,
what was I gonna say? God, Damn, I forgot what
I was gonna say. It doesn't matter, fuck it.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
I'll sit here until you remember it, Luke, It'll be great.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Now I'm on the clock and I can't remember what
the hell I was gonna say. All right, whatever, all.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Right, Hey, why don't we transition into topic number three?
You already know that Friday will be previewing all things
UFC three twenty in our pregame preview that will take
up the entirety of Friday show. But there's two other
events going on here. The big one though for the PFL,
A very big one that's going down in the UA

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on Friday Night, a rematch of arguably the best fight
in the promotion's history, one of the best fights in
MMA this calendar year, when Usman der Maaga Madoff to
kick off the year, won a competitive decision over Paul
Hughes over five rounds for the PFL lightweight title. That's
the belt now that is at stake, no more belatur.

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This is the official PFL lightweight title. It's a rematch
that tops the card featuring two title fights, including Corey Anderson,
friend of the show, fighting for the inaugural PFL light
Heavyweight crown in a rematch with dav Lett Yakshimuradov. But
this is the big matchup. These are arguably, you know,
two of the three biggest resources PFL has here in

(41:27):
Nirmaga Medof and Paul Hughes. As we look at the
odds at the moment, Usman Nirmaga medoff minus one sixty
six the betting favorite plus one p thirty For Paul
Hughes Luke, let's start here when you look back at
their first matchup, which I've watched a few times now,
what is your biggest takeaways? Because if you recall, Usman

(41:48):
spent the entire build to that fight saying Hughes wasn't
on his level until he found out he was.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
My takeaway is that Hughes, it reminds me of that
scene in the Matrix where they've put Neo in the
training program and he spars with Morpheus, but then they
make him do the jump, remember that, and then everyone's like, oh,
everyone falls the first time, you know. But eventually there
comes a moment later in the movie where he begins

(42:18):
to believe that he can do things and he can
dodge bullets, and he almost has to slowly convince himself
that it's real. But once he sees it, he can't
unsee it. For Paul Hughes, how do you unsee the
real effort that you put in against a very, very
very credible opponent. I don't think that the person who
wins this PC because it's actually what's saying is the

(42:40):
best lightweight in the world. Maybe they'll end up being
It's a little hard to make that argument over someone
like Ilia, but certainly a very good fighter is what
you're getting out of this in the elite one eye
is what I would say. And Paul Hughes got to
watch himself, yes, come up short, but not in a
way where he came up short because well, you've got
a ton of work to do. I mean, of course
there's a lot of work that has to be done

(43:01):
in the camp, but I don't mean like DDP versus
amzat where it's like I don't even know if you
can make up that gap. This was tantalizingly close. Now
I know on some of the judges' scorecards.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
That you know.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
It wasn't enough to claim three solid rounds of performance,
but it was enough to be like, I can match
up with this guy and neutralize his strengths while pressing
mine in a way where if I got another crack
at it, you have to believe that he's got a
better shot this time, even if also Nurmaka Madoff can
have a better at least in theory could have a

(43:36):
better performance too. The point I'm trying to make is
It wasn't awakening. It was this moment where he is like, Okay,
this actually is very doable. I can actually make this
happen now. Whether or not he prepared correctly and whether
or not you know this is going to be that
moment to get it done, we shall see. But the
big takeaway from that one is Paul Hughes was not

(43:56):
the better guy overall on that night, probably not, but
is had a moment of recognition about what he can
be and it started with that disappointing loss.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Now Usman is twenty seven
years old, one of the best lightweights on the planet,
and he did improve to nineteen and oh with one
no contest and that majority decision win in January, one
judge scoring it even, the other two jobs just scoring
it forty eight forty six for Nirmaga met Off. I
believe that Nirmaga Metoff really brought it down the stretch
in round five to take that round clearly, and that

(44:31):
was the difference on my scorecard three rounds to two.
But in so many ways you can argue that Paul
Hughes won that night because of the ascension of how
he was getting better with each fight. He defeated aj
McKee and then he went in there against probably the
best fighter pound for pound that PFL has and rallied
back in those middle rounds. The body shots were a

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big part of it. I interviewed both fighters when this
fight was announced, and they are still very contentious when
talking about each other. Here's Husman and maga Matov looking
back on their fight in January and realizing the mistakes
that he made that he feels led to this being
a close fight.

Speaker 7 (45:10):
Oh, I'm not surprised about this fight game, you know,
like I know what I did, which mistakes I did.
I was watching this fight and I see a lot
of my mistakes, you know. And it was not my
best trip too. And this time I was in Mautai
and I did very good game. Now I'm in Aukistan

(45:33):
next this this week and next week I'm here and
after that I'm gonna move to Tubai for last my
three for week, and.

Speaker 9 (45:43):
This time it's gonna be different.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
I'm I'm turning so hard.

Speaker 7 (45:48):
And now I'm here, and that of course I'm with
my family here and I see, I see how they
worry about me and I don't want to make them
or nervous this time. And we'll see around me have
very good guys, good teachers and all my team, and

(46:11):
this time it's deffinitely it's gonna be different.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Can you share what those mistakes were the first time
that you just mentioned.

Speaker 7 (46:20):
Will you remember in second round, like I beat him
first round, like clean, just kick moving, okay, but not
second round. I just I tried to help hold his neck,
but I'm not through knee and there's his lended couple
of punches on my body. And after that it's it's

(46:45):
it wasn't my plan.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
For this fight.

Speaker 7 (46:48):
No, I did something.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Wrong and and.

Speaker 7 (46:58):
If we take.

Speaker 9 (46:59):
Downs, I spent a lot of uh energy. But this
time we're gonna we changed it everything. We change it
everything like we change it striking, we change it cleans.
We're gonna be like like very very good.

Speaker 10 (47:18):
Shape this time.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Look, I think he's trying to say because if you recall,
he seemed to dominate, he was in the striking in
the first round of their first meeting. Then you saw
slowly Hughes work his way back in. I mentioned those
body shots that looked like Usman was gassed in the
middle of this fight. It felt like he wanted to
say it without really fully saying it, that he had
an awful training camp the first time around. I'm not

(47:41):
sure if there were injuries that led up to that,
but it's almost the same dilemma we're in when looking
at the second Anklia Pooton fight. In regards to what
Poeton's now saying about how he was compromised. Do you
agree with usman here that he realizes maybe he took
Hughes for granted, maybe he under train, maybe he was hurt, whatever,

(48:02):
but that he's not gonna make the mistake the second
time around. Or are you sensing a bit of delusion
in him?

Speaker 1 (48:06):
No? I think he took him lightly. I think he
took him lightly, not like so lightly that he didn't
train enough. I mean, clear, he trained enough to win, right,
He did enough of the job to get his hand raised,
but it wasn't enough to close the book, which is
why we're right back here, you know. And again that's
also partly due to the brilliance that night of Paul Hughes,

(48:28):
even in a losing effort. But dude, he took him lightly,
and you could tell after the fight. I'll never forget.
There was one time where you know Phil Baroni, who's
I think in Mexican jail for allegedly killing his girlfriend,
but he famously like beat the hell out of Evan
Tanner but then gassed. And then the first thing that
Evan Tanner said when they interviewed him was like, Holy God,

(48:49):
that guy hits hard. And you can listen to some
of the stuff that Usman said afterwards at Habib as well,
that that one was uncomfortably close for them, and you
could tell it uncomfortably close because you know, his ability
to hit what they thought was his next gear was
not there, and whether that was INJURYBC, whether it was

(49:09):
it not enough roadwork, whether it was whatever. And also
before this fight they were like why, you know, why
is he a big deal? Then afterwards, remember it's like, well,
you know, I don't really have to do anything for
this guy, which is common for champion talk. But there's
just been this tenor of distance and to a degree dismissiveness,
except for right away post fight, when the tenor then

(49:29):
all of a sudden shifted that tells you the ballgame
that that gives it away.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah, this rematches in Dubai where it was the first time.
This will air Friday during actually our pregame preview of
Morning Combat, as the main card begins at eleven thirty am.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Eastern cars trucks at eleven.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
That's what I'm finding on the internet. Yes, live from
Dubai there on Friday. We also have Husmann getting back
to his sase trash talk ways in saying how this
fight will end for Hughes.

Speaker 11 (50:01):
I think you remember this, Paul, who's yes, this is fun.
Of course he punched me. Of course I will feel this.
Of course he gonna hurt me. But what's the reason
he will lose this fight? He was crying, I'm gonna
make him cry again.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Well, there you go, he's gonna make him cry again. Well.
I was able to relay that information to Paul Hughes, who,
of course has a different feeling where he feels that
Usmann is breakable. He felt he came close to the
first fight. Here's Paul Hughes saying about what he's gonna
do on Friday. How will this fight ultimately be different?

(50:45):
I mean, he's not gonna take you lightly. But considering
it was such a stalemate over five rounds the first
time with the judges being, you know, ultimately split, considering
it was a majority decision, How will this rematch be
different in your eyes?

Speaker 8 (50:58):
How this rematch will be Deafit is ultimately I will
break him at some point in this fight, no question,
whether that is round three or whether that is round five.
I truly, truly believe that I'm going to put the
pressure on that man early. I'm going to make him
fight once again. I'm going to make him scramble for
his life for every single position, and I Am not

(51:20):
going to get off him until I have him broken.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Damn. Okay, all right, I mean let's go right there,
right Wow. Paul would continue to close here talking about
what he felt when he was hurting Irmagamet off to
the body the first time around.

Speaker 8 (51:41):
Yeah, I think that he was. I think I almost
had him broken, and I think that you know, you
watch that fight back. You look at rounds four and five,
just before that head clash happened at the very end
of round four where he had a three minute recovery.
You've seen the momentum change. You've seen that I had
started to get my groove, that I was just simply

(52:03):
walking him down. He did not have the energy to
take me down or to grapple with me anymore. And
I was in my groove and I was landing the
devastating shots. The head flashed, happened, he got a little
bit of energy conserve back up again. The fifth round
was close. Some judges give it to me, some judges
give it to him.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
I think that I.

Speaker 8 (52:21):
Almost almost hadn't broken last time, but you know this
time that the odds may go in my favor. Was
something like that, you know, these things happen, and this
is why we love fighting, because these things just fucking happened,
and ultimately, whether odds go in my favorite or not
next time, I know that over five rounds, I can't

(52:41):
get him out of there.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
So Luke speaking to him, saying, these things just fucking happened.
I did go back and rewatch the fight immediately after
interviewing him, and he's right. The momentum was firmly in
his favor when that ar Aaron headbutt paused the action
for three minutes. In hindsight, do you believe that's what
gave Usman the uh the gas back to hold them
off in round five, with two judges scoring it for Usman,

(53:06):
one for Hughes.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
It's a good question. It's a good question. I'm not sure. Well,
I'm not sure. This is the problem, Like, I'm not
I would love to hear what the judges thought were
the meaningful differences between them in order to give you
a better sense of that. I don't. I don't know.
I the question you have to ask yourself is this
is this gonna look like the first fight? I don't mean,

(53:32):
you know, you might pick Usbin you might not, But like,
is it gonna have the similar kind of complexion of
the first fight, or this is one gonna be like
real different for example, of course it's a very different example.
But the first fight between Islam and Volk did not
look like the second fight between them, right, They were
very different. Whereas you can think of certain rematches where
the first one kind of followed closely followed the second one.

(53:52):
If the first one, if the second one closely follows
the first one, I would favor Usman to win this one.
I really think that. I'm just And it's kind of
like a circular way of getting to the answer. See,
But the point we're just trying to make is in
order to get to a meaningfully different place with the judges.
This has to look like a meaningfully different fight overall
to start in the middle, and if it goes long
at the end, it has to be under much better

(54:14):
terms for Paul Hughes, which means much more pressure and frankly,
much more forcing of boxing range through pressure, and then
of course means resisting takedowns and everything else. Like that's
what that has to happen here, and I don't really
know if it will, but I can't wait until see
it on Friday to find out.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yeah, Long Island, Luke, Yeah, I'm sure you definitely saw
that first fight. It was a classic. We talked about
the odds with Usman being a minus one sixty six
favorite to the plus one thirty Hughes. I can be
talked into the idea that that wasn't the best of
Usman and now he'll have no excuse but to bring that.
Does that sway you betting wise into sticking with the

(54:49):
Dagistans here?

Speaker 12 (54:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (54:51):
I kind of feel like if you guys remember they
were doing that stare down for the first fight and
Usman said some shit to him, like I can't even
remember what he said. Like Paul Hughes then looks at
the camera, he's like he's overlooking me. He's overlooking me,
like he clearly went into that first fight overlooking him.
I think he's gonna have a way better game plan
this time. Usman by decision, it's probably plus money. I
don't think it's dropped yet, but that's gonna be my bet.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Lt We could argue, of course, that you know, Dakota
Ditschival arguably the most important fighter to build on for
PFL moving forward. PFLs John Martin told me we played
the clip there and talked about it that he doesn't
know if Francis wants to fight MMA anymore. What do
you think is a better result here for the PFL.

(55:33):
Usman and Marga Medov's staying unbeaten, and you've got a
strong member of that extended abdulmen app tree that includes
Islam Mahachev and the other Normaga Medoffs or Paul Hughes
getting the win, considering the draw he is in Ireland
and considering that you're probably gonna get a trilogy pretty
soon after if he does.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Man, that's a great question. I mean, I think the
probably default answer would be because of the Nurmaga Madov name,
you're a likely to want to go in that direction.
That's interesting. On the other hand, you know, I do
think that there might be some North American fatigue with
how much not with usman per se, but with just
how much the American fight game has declined. And you

(56:14):
know what am I saying, Paul, He's Irish, so that's
you know, he's a native English speakers the kind of
point I'm trying to make versus not so there's less
cultural distance. But I honestly probably the number GA madoff
thing right, I mean, dude, what's going to keep Habib
coming back to PFL shows? Paul Hughes? You know what

(56:34):
I mean? Like, no, in terms of building a fan base,
you know, there probably is some real value to milk
out of having a member of the first Family of
MMA on your roster. That being said, BC, that being said,
to your point, Paul Hughes already pretty damn popular in Ireland.
You could really blow that out, and I think you
could build on that in some other markets as well.

(56:54):
I think Paul Hughes could kind of carry over. So
I think, listen, this is not like boxing. It's Bob
Arams fighter versus Don kingsfighter. They both compete for the
same person, so in the end they can milk it
either way. Probably the answer is Usman because of the
last name.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Little known fact that Paul Hughes was born to two
Irish people in Australia. No, cita, does that bring your
father or his libido into this conversation?

Speaker 5 (57:22):
Uh no, but I did forget that. That's a good call.
Maybe maybe I'll dabble a little bit on Paul Hughes
at plus money.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
There you go, there, it is right?

Speaker 1 (57:28):
How much? What is he agin? How much plus is he?

Speaker 2 (57:31):
He's only a plus one thirty Paul Hughes.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Wow. Wow.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
I kind of feel like it's going to be another close,
competitive fight. But Usman is slightly the better fighter here.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Yeah, that's interesting. Oh I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Fun tank is refilled and he can wrestle more. That
could also be a difference maker here.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
All right, we as we continue on this, car, Luke,
there's a couple other fights worth mentioning. Are you going
to be moved at all about the beast beast in again, Luke?

Speaker 1 (58:00):
What is the old Beaston twenty Not beast, dude, He's
not Beaston twenty four to seven. That's Beaston twenty four
to seven is for lazy people. Yeah, he's Beast in
twenty five eight and he'll.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Go oh yeah, he'll go overtime if you need it.
It's Corey Anderson.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
We love Corey, but that's a funny nickname. Sorry, it's the.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Best you remember. Of course, he fought for the bellowtor
light heavyweight title and came up empty there in that
two fight series with Nemkof. He wants the trilogy. He's
willing to do it at light heavyweight. I did talk
to him on my channel. You can check that chat out.
But Luke, he's had a decorated career. Exited the UFC
after a long wind streak turned into a knockout, and

(58:39):
then he had that accident where he fell found the
financial freedom he was looking for. This would be a
feather in his cap. If he can go out there
beat yak shimerdav a second time and be the official
PFL light heavyweight champion, there's a good opportunity for him.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
This is a great opportunity for him. I think being
with the PFL, you know, hasn't necessarily blown up his profile,
but I think it's been good for his pocketbook. He
is absolutely one of the best light heavyweights in the world. BC.
That's that's not hyperbole. He absolutely is one of the
best right heavyweights in the world. And you know, I
don't know if Dovletz don Yakshimrodov. I don't know if
he's exactly the guy to take that from him. They

(59:15):
already fought in Belator. Corey kind of toold him a
little bit, so I think this is a great opportunity
for him. But dude, he's a fighter of this caliber
who's this hungry, deserves to be decorated. He's got a
great shot at it. On Friday.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Well, that loss their first meeting back in twenty twenty one.
That was yak Shamuradov's Belatour debut, who was in the
quarterfinal of that Grand Prix. He got stopped in the
third round. He would then lose his next fight to
Carl Albrexon and then rip off a seven fight win
streak across Belator and PFL that takes him to where
he is right now. He's coming off a first round

(59:52):
knockout of Impa Kasangane last year that won him the
PFL Light Heavyweight Tournament. He beat Rob Wilkinson beat Raphael karv,
Julius and Glicas, so he's beaten some names that we know.
This should be an interesting test right here for both
of them. And then how about this bantam weight til
Magomed mago medoff against Sergio Pettis. I don't hate that

(01:00:12):
at all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
No, I don't hate that one, although that is one
that I think one of the matchups we didn't get
but could in theory could get with a bantamweight attorney,
And of course there was a bantam attorney through Bellatore,
so this is something of an interesting pairing that you
could have got there. But the one I'm actually more
interested in BC is not that one. It's actually Archie
Colgan taken on JJ Wilson, the one right above that dude,

(01:00:35):
Archie Colgan division one wrestler. There's not many of those
guys or actually I'm not sure if University whelming is
division one division two. I think it's Division one. I
have to double check, but in any case, undefeated looks
the part phenomenal record taken on JJ Wilson, who is
probably the best KIWI fighting outside of the UFC. I
don't know if that's fair or not. Maybe Long Island.

(01:00:56):
Luke disagrees, but JJ Wilson is a very good fight
or different style, so he's more like, you know, boxer
jiu jitsu kickboxer jiu jitsu type, whereas Colgan little more
boxer wrestler. But this one has fun written all over it.
As I mentioned, Colgan twelve and oh j J. Wilson
just eleven and one. So I love that fight. That's

(01:01:17):
one of the better fights they can make. Dude. The
matchmakers did a good job with this one for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Yeah, that is Mike Cogan, right, the matchmaker.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Yeah, I'm not sure if he's got I think he's
got a team now, but I do believe it's headed
by Colgan. Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Well, they also have this preliminary fight that some people
are getting into as the go Artem Lobov returns for
a one hundred and sixty five pound catchway a bout
against Zubairah Tukagov. Luke, that's some Uh that's like a
rematch of Connor Habib, is it not?

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah, a little bit. Zubira I think was with that
team for a while. That's not that's not that's not false.

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
That's what I'm pretty sure Zubairo was the one who
started that whole thing where they all surrounded Artam, leading
to Connor Than coming.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
With the dolly. The next they're milking the controversy. You know,
they're milking the controversy. However, Arts and lobof God Bless
Him fourteen fifteen and one, you know, not the best
record I've ever seen, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm with you on that. He did beat
Powley and Bare Knuckle, although that was disputed, highly highly disputed.
Also this weekend, speaking of Bare Knuckle, I gotta be honest,
elt I didn't know this was happening until Nocita reminded me,
and I like what BKFC does. This is a big
one for them. BKFC eighty two is Saturday, going head

(01:02:29):
to head with UFC three twenty. It takes place in Newark.
They might as well put it in Newark, Penn if
you know what I mean. And it's Mike Perry versus
Jeremy Stevens in the main event, Frankie Edgar comes out
of retirement to Bare Knuckle, Jimmy Rivera and the Colemane.
Of course, there's that wild female fight that we played
a lot of have you seen the shit sounds of
Christine Ferrea defending her women's Bandamwait title against Jessica Borga.

(01:02:54):
That's it for the most part for names on this card. Luke,
will you care in any four m on Saturday?

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
No, No, I will not care. I mean, I'll care
in the sense that I hope Frankie doesn't get laid out.
I'll say that. Other than that, well, I'm lying. I mean,
I'm fucking lying, right, I mean, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I'm gonna catch a stream at some point, right I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Watch, I'll at least catch the highlights. At a bare minimum,
I'll catch the highlights. I'll say that, But I won't.
I'm not gonna spend time away for my family to
watch it. I mean, I'll tell you that, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yeah, You're like, I'm gonna spend time away for my
family to watch UFC.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Let me say this. Let me say this. I look
this up and I want to just it's got nothing
to do with this particular fight. But you mentioned there's
BKFC Tomorrow. Tomorrow is Contender series. It's episode A week eight,
and in the middle of the card is Eliza Kuban's
take it on this dude, I've been talking about Christopher Alvidres.
Chris al Vidres. Now, Chris al Vidrez is raw. I

(01:03:53):
don't know. I don't know much about his opponent, and
I don't even know if he's favored to win this
long island Luke, but I called his last fight at
xFC that dude is good. That dude is good, explosive,
hungry and really really unorthodox game. He thought a UFC
veteran in his last fight with US at xFC, with
them on my promotion, but with them and smoked the guy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
He's a fat dog right now plus two twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yeah, Alvidriz, he's a plus two twenty, yes, sir, wow.
I gotta learn more about his opponent because that's surprising
to hear. He's fucking good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
There you go, long on, Luke, letting us know that
Wyoming is d one. Luke, Okay, yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
I thought I thought so. I just I couldn't remember,
but I thought so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
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(01:06:08):
then let's go to topic number four. This ain't a
good topic to talk about, but it did happen and
it is getting a lot of attention UFC In Pride legend,
Vonderley Silva took part in an exhibition boxing match in
Brazil on Saturday against former boxing world champion Oslino Popo Freitas,
and Vonderlay got viciously knocked out in a post fight

(01:06:32):
brawl that took place because Vonderlay was disqualified for multiple
headbuts during the bout. Uh Fabricio ver Doom took part
in it. The elements to the story as they got
spread around social media with the highlights, they were disgusting
and it was actually Freytas's son that ended up knocking
out vonder Lay Silva clean during the melee. He would

(01:06:55):
go on to post pictures with a broken eye socket
and a bunch of other issues. Don't forget this was
the same fighter who wrote publicly in the class action
lawsuit about the CTE that is compromising his lifestyle. Right now,
So Silva's opponent was outweighed by roughly forty pounds. This
was originally supposed to be Silva against Vitor Belfort and Luke.

(01:07:17):
I mean, what do we even say it's an old
guy exhibition. We see a lot of this, Julio says
Arshaviz Senior Eric Morales. I mean a lot of these
guys are doing these. Roy Jones and Mike Tyson as well.
Should athletic commissions at home and abroad consider the legislation
that would more closely regulate these or maybe even outright
ban them, because the footage we have to show here

(01:07:40):
is just gnarly and ridiculous. Let's check out first the
way in photo before Luke weighs in. Uh, you see
Vanderley at two six. Freytoss, a former one hundred and
thirty pound and featherweight fighter, came in at one sixty two.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Can I jump in real quick? Vitor belfour was supposed
to be the opponent and fell out. Yeah, just Raytoss
filled in and you would imagine that Vitor I just
broquickly would have been closer in wait, but they just
had to scramble and this is what they got.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
And here's the aftermath, of course, uh Vonderlai posting just
some awful pictures. Luke, this is what you get when
you do shit like this that shouldn't happen. There was
no head gear here. This was just straight up old
guys getting after it. I know what happened in a melee,
not the fight, but Vonderlay's no victim ultimately here he

(01:08:27):
had budded enough to get disqualified. I don't even know
why Fabricio ver Doom was involved, but he was throwing
haymakers too. How do you even react to this?

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
This should be illegal. This should be illegal. The state
in Brazil as well regulates combat sports. Folks often ask,
you know, why is combat sports regulated by the government
or why should it be regulated? I mean, this is
an example of the state failing. But this also gives
you an example of why it's important that there should be,
at least in theory, a regulatory power over this activity,

(01:08:59):
because these people cannot be trusted on their own to
do this the right way. Guys, what the fuck is
I mean? This is why honestly, BC like, I know
that the rules that they're gonna do it around as
an exhibition, and they're both relatively young, but like, if
you've got guys over the age of forty and there's
a forty pound weight difference, that's like. And the guy

(01:09:20):
who's in the main event has said in court documents
that he suffers from CTE, has already had it. And
we know flat lined by crow Cop, flat lined by
a rampage and then TKO by Rampage at a later time,
was badly rocked by Stan was obviously you know, finished

(01:09:40):
off by Vitor, was flat lined by Hendo, was flat lined.
I mean, I think he's been flat lined four different times. Oh,
by the way, basically flat lined by crazy Horse, to
say nothing of all the shoot to box Jim Morris.
That fight should have been fucking illegal. It should have
been illegal. It should have been against the law to
allow something like that to happen. Because then, as you

(01:10:03):
point out, BC Vanderley a sympathetic character in the sense
that he's suffering from all this stuff and then gets
viciously laid out yet again, right and has this terrible
thing happened to him. But at the same point, dude,
those head butts were not ambiguous. Sometimes headbuts and boxing,
you know, it's a little hard to tell sometimes a
slow motion. This guy's career started in headbutting with valet Tuto,

(01:10:25):
and he's now here after all of this brain trauma
and he's headbutting people. He should be banned from combat.
He should not be allowed to fight again. And honestly, BC,
not just for misconduct, really, that's not even the most
important part for his own health. For his own health,
the Brazilian government to the except that they have regatory
athletic power to regulate this kind of thing, they should

(01:10:46):
prohibit him from ever competing again. A weight discrepancy like
this with someone who has put in public record that
they're suffering from this, who's been laid out that many times,
How the fuck is that legal? Why should that be legal?
It's it's it's it's deeply obvious in person. Not just
a disaster because the the a brawl happened, or because
there was a disqualification, but that the risk you ran

(01:11:09):
with putting a guy like that in there just leads
to unhealthy outcomes BC one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
I mean, look, people forget that like this, this crossover
bubble that Jake Paul is still the face of. Like
it really started in terms of major prominence with Roy
Jones and Mike Tyson in twenty twenty, and we were
even rightfully so a little nervous about that fight. It
turned out to kind of be a win for Tyson
and they both looked decent and it was whatever. But
you knew that bubble was going to burst eventually because

(01:11:38):
not only are those largely shit fights, but somebody could
really get hurt. I mean, I guess in hindsight, for
all the shit we rightfully threw at Mike Tyson versus
Jake Paul, which let me again remind people, was an
officially official fight, not an exhibition. And for as much
shit as we gave Jake for carrying Mike to the
finish line, what did I want in return? Mike knocked

(01:12:00):
out cold?

Speaker 7 (01:12:01):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
I mean, what are we talking about with vonder Lay.
We're talking about a guy who had a twenty two
year MMA career, fought fifty one times, lost fourteen of them,
was knocked out in seven of them, was known for
being an all or nothing brawler for a lot of
his career, went through a gauntlet in his prime with
Pride before going to the UFC and just being matched

(01:12:24):
up even in his later years with you know, with
Bellatore and the tail end of the UFC was just
getting thrown in there against ferocious brawlers because that's what
he did. If anybody should not have been sanctioned. And
then you don't even not even to mention the comments
that he gave on the record about the class action lawsuit.
It's criminal. Criminal. I mean, there's one thing to do.

(01:12:44):
The chail in Anderson Sova when they recently did that
charity boxing match whatever it was exhibition that was pro wrestling,
that was one hundred percent pro wrestling. If this turned
out to be that, whatever, But enough enough of this shit.
I mean, I love meles, I love ridiculousness in sports.
But vonder Ley got clocked a couple times before he
got laid out, and now he's dealing with in numerous

(01:13:08):
more issues that, oh, by the way, were brought on
completely by himself for how he acted during that fight.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Let's let's have an uncomfortable conversation. How does this end
for vander lay Silva.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
That's probably as worse as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Because everyone out there should expect a worst case scenario,
and if it's not, we're lucky.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Scause they're taking these fights in a lot of instances
because they need the money. There's no pensions in this game,
there's no you know, we all already know all that,
but there's also this addiction to get back in there
and do the only thing they know how to do.
And if no one's gonna step in there and stop them,
what are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
But I just I don't even mean that. I mean,
like in terms of his brain health, like how like,
look at what's happening with Bjpenn.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
You know, I think it all ties in Luke. I
think it ties into that what I'm saying, Like, you
keep letting people do this, they keep adding more trauma
to their brain. You're gonna have junior sale moments, you
know what I mean, You're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Yes, we should say that out loud. Like again, I'm
obviously in BC as well. We're not wishing for this.
We dread it with every fiber of our being. We
hope that it never ever even gets close. But just
even if this had not happened, BC, just think realistically,
after all that trauma he took just in his professional
MMA career, and again, shoot a Box was known for

(01:14:21):
having legendary gym wars. They were the Gym War Crew.
Before you know, more civilized, relatively speaking forms of training
begin to emerge inside of top MMA gyms, they were
known for hammering each other. And then on top of that,
you have this long, storied career and now this kind
of stuff is happening. How do folks think this is

(01:14:42):
going to end? How do you think his life is
going to look like in its last chapter? It there
is no way it's not some form of a disaster,
and that could be a disaster not just for him,
but the folks around him, and God only knows who else.
Like this is so fucking bad for him. This is
so bad, frankly, for a society to allow these kinds

(01:15:05):
of things to just have gone on as long as
they have. And now even here, Vanderley Silva's life is
headed towards a direction that is darker than any of
us have the ability to even grasp at this point.
And I am frankly terrified of watching that unfold. BC.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Yeah, and I'm glad you didn't grab the video in
hindsight for this, because it was disturbing to watch. You
had that like oh shit moment at first, and then
you get take the totality of it and you're just like,
this is grow I mean, look, he was flatlined by
that punch by Fradis's kid. I mean, like flatlined, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
People don't realize this. Vander Lay never had great defense,
but up until he really got his chin cracked, he
had like a very resilient chin. He was known for
being able to just eat punishment and keep going. And
then once that finished off, his career was up and
down at that point. But you know, he got I
think it was back to back if I'm not missa
taking he got Kitko by cro Cop and then got

(01:16:03):
laid the fuck out. When in the next fight when
Dan Henderson was able to get two titles at the
same time, he was actually the first Champ Champ simultaneous
Champ champ is when he laid out Vandalalay in another
just you know again, it wasn't just BC. He didn't
walk across the ring and punch him. They had a
war before that, you know what I mean, Like, it's
all this fucking damage and then there are this is

(01:16:24):
this guy is being allowed to compete.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
It is so fucking unethical that this was allowed to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Thank you very much for saying that. I mean, he
maybe forty nine, which is oldest shit for the fight
game anyway, but I scared to find out what it
you know, what his brain ages, you know what I mean,
his brain health moment, Like I mean, it's just ah.
That's it for topic number four. Let's go to topic
number five. Big time breaking news this morning, of course,
uh UFC CEO Dana White announcing that Zoofa Boxing is

(01:16:56):
coming and starting in January. Of course, the partnership with
the Arabia Turkey alashkin Selo was announced in March, but
now they have an inaugural broadcast home and that is
on Paramount Plus, with the idea of some cards potentially
being sinalcasted on CBS, very similar to the UFC deal
recently signed there. The terms of the arrangement are not

(01:17:18):
fully known. What some have reported is it's a five
year deal. What we do know is year one, we'll
have twelve cards in a monthly series that will air
on Paramount Plus, with the idea of adding more cards
in the future as they go on I had a
lengthy interview with Dana White. We're going to play some
audio from that that you can check out on YouTube
on the CBS Sports HQ channel, where I tried my

(01:17:39):
best to get a lot of information out of him.
But to be fair, they're still figuring out a lot
of this on the fly. Him and Nick Con with
Turkey Ala Sheik's backing, are the brains behind this. So
first and foremost here, Luke, what do you believe this
means for boxing? We've we've heard Dana's coming a mile
away for years now. We're pairing him together with Turkey
Ala Chic, with TKO's muscle, with Nick CON's you know,

(01:18:03):
business intellect. What are we expecting to kick off next
year for the world of boxing?

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
I mean it's an interesting one, right, So, like it
seems like you Dana has laid this out as you
articulated the ideas you have there. They're comparing it to
Contender Series. I guess it's something akin to that, and
then once you graduate, you go into the pipeline to
fight for uh Turkey l shake, right, So that's that's
the planned path. I mean, I have a lot of

(01:18:30):
questions about this, like to what extent, Like, what are
the contracts gonna look like? What is pay going to
look like? What does a contract with ZUFA Boxing do
in terms of locking you into a contract with Turkey?
So like there's a question like, what's what's that continuity? Right?
Because could you fight twice for ZUFA Boxing and win
both times and then they offer you a fight with
Turkey and I'm just I'm just imagining something you could
decline it to go to top rank? Like, how does that?

(01:18:51):
How does that even work? You know? But because it's
a UBO, I'm gonna guess they're going to create a
UBO if the legislation passes. It remains to be seen,
So I don't really know what that looks like. Also,
a bigger question for me is a couple things. One,
what does this do to Dana's bandwidth in MMA, which
has already been stretched noticeably thin. Now, of course we see,

(01:19:11):
you know as well as I do the kickoff in January,
and for the early part of that deal, he's gonna
be there obviously UFC White House, he'll be front and
center all that stuff, right, But you know, he's one man.
There's twenty four hours in a day. How is he
gonna split that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
I mean, I did ask him that, Luke, we don't
have the video to play it. But he did say
ultimately that he's fifty six, his daughter went off to
college this fall in Miami, his boys are older and
on their own. He said he's just gonna throw himself
into it and grind like he knows how, and be
everything all at once. Now, obviously, I think that means
we're gonna see him pull away a bit more from UFC.

(01:19:49):
Even though he didn't say that, you're seeing David Shaw Moore,
you're seeing John Anna coostmore press conferences. I think you'd
have to believe Hunter Campbell's going to get a big
push out of the scenario, right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Yeah, who knows Max Kellerman as a TA kind of
voice could as well. The other part about that is
BC is now is from what I saw on the
press release, I read it this morning and I shared
it on Twitter as well, that you know this is
going to be on Paramount Plus obviously, and that some
of these might go on CBS. So why would you
put a Contender series event on CBS. I guess I

(01:20:20):
don't understand that, like CBS is only taking for UFC
numbered events, and you know, maybe they'll put the prelims
on there too, But what they're really interested in is,
of course, the main event, or I should say the
main card rather like that makes a lot of sense.
Are you really gonna put contender series fights there? So
like the way in which this has been described, doesn't
I don't. I guess I would just have. I'm not

(01:20:41):
saying it doesn't make sense. I'm saying we don't have
enough information to fully get a grasp because what they're
saying seems, at least in part, a little bit contradictory.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
It is, but I think data has somewhat clarified that
in recent ones. With what you said, the idea that
this will be, you know, he wants to rip up
boxing from the ground floor, rebuild it. Yes, this will
be the house of the creating the new stars for
tomorrow to put them on riad season and ring magazine cards.
But yeah, I don't know what that means. I don't
know if if there could be quarterly cards on CBS

(01:21:13):
that involve Turkey fighters as well, or if this is
just a ZUFO boxing thing, because remember, we're going to
see two to four big events a year on Netflix
in which ZUFA fighters will make up the undercards. So
it's really a lot of that is unknown. Like you're saying,
when will that sort of full emergence between ZUFA Boxing
and what Turkey's doing happen? I think obviously they're gonna
have to really establish themselves first. Dana keeps comparing it

(01:21:36):
to UFA's Tuesday night fights, and I don't hate that comparison.
If if ZUFA Boxing becomes sort of a monthly all
action prospect versus prospect thing like he wants to do,
it potentially can be exciting. Look before we hear from
Dana about a number of things, including the Aliac part
of this, what do you think this means overnight? You know,

(01:21:57):
essentially for Paramount CBS, Like unfortunately, we were a big
part of what they were doing on Showtime and under
the old ownership they were forced to sunset Showtime to
stay alive financially, and now less than two years later
they're almost in a premier position in combat.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Yeah, I mean it's the benefits of merger. I mean
you you would be able to answer this question better
than me, Like, what is the internal sense.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
That we're going huge on the coverage of this. Obviously,
we know how much they paid for the UFC. We
don't know the financial details of this Soufa boxing package,
although I think it's been a rumored to be around
one hundred and fifty two million over five years or
two hundred million, excuse me over five years. But I've
got to believe this is a major shift in the
in the broadcasting landscape here combat sports wise, and in

(01:22:41):
terms of you know, the Ellison's coming in here with
sky Dance and trying, you know, as you read sometimes
trying to turn Paramount into a something that's competing directly
with Netflix and Prime, not necessarily just its other sporting
counterpart points.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
Yeah, I mean, you know, Paramount Plus has a bigger
reach than the ESPN Plus, but is a loss leader
and for a while was hemorrhaging money. And they're trying
to fix that. And I think bringing in a dedicated
army of combat sports fans certainly gets you a long way. Again,
they're already John Nash believes that there's no possible way
for Paramount to make their money back with the UFC deal,

(01:23:16):
but that's their cross to bar. You can they can
figure that out it remains to be seen what it's
gonna be costing for the ZUPA boxing side of things.
They didn't announce any monetary figure on this deal. Again,
I guess we'll get some more of that going forward.
It certainly positions CBS and Paramount, you know, at least
in North America, I mean BC, we've talked about it,
like take out Paramount for imagine a second, imagine UFC

(01:23:36):
still with ESPN and blah blah blah. Like the way
in which corporate media has pulled back from both MMA
and boxing is I think you would agree, based on
where it was at a high water mark, pretty alarming.
It's a significant draw down. However, it has now the
American side of things kind of all just landed in

(01:23:57):
a single home. Now. We don't know what's gonna happen
with Operk at ESPN or any other place they might
end up going to. We don't know what's gonna happen
with PFL at ESPNBC. But certainly, by the time January one,
twenty twenty six rolls around, CBS and Paramount are the
leaders in combat sports by a country mile in North
America and arguably even the world. Given the portfolio of

(01:24:20):
what they're going to have access to. We'll see what
happens from there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Indeed, big news here. Let's hear from Dana. What should
boxing fans expect? Here's Dana White.

Speaker 12 (01:24:29):
When I was a massive boxing fan, I used to
watch USAYS Tuesday Night Fights.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
I talk about it all the time.

Speaker 12 (01:24:34):
It was one of my favorite shows of all time,
and all the big boxing stars of the nineties in
pay per view came off of that show. I felt like,
back then there were very competitive fights with guys who
should have been fighting each other at that time, and
that's what I want to do. I mean, basically, as

(01:24:56):
a boxing fan, the way that the UFC was built,
it was all the things that I loved about boxing
and all the things that I hated about boxing is
how I built, you know, the UFC and the sport.
So I would expect a lot of what you saw
early on in the UFC to happen with boxing now.

(01:25:17):
But it's different, you know. Being aligned with with Saudi
Arabia and Shake Turkey. Always wanting to put on these
fights that nobody sees coming or fights that people don't
think can be made, is part of the fun of
it too.

Speaker 5 (01:25:37):
Indeed.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Indeed, it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Sound like I gotta say, that doesn't sound like Contender
series to me. No, it's that much bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It is something much bigger.
But it's still an idea to look. He said that
him and Nikhan met and they've got a list of
four hundred and fifty the fighters that they're going to
go after that he didn't wasn't able to confirm. We
know they're going to lower the weight divisions. It is
currently seventeen or eighteen if you count Bridgeway in boxing,
and they want to significantly lower that. We know that
they don't want to use the four sanctioning bodies and

(01:26:06):
the traditional title system, which is why the ali AC
changes and the amendments will need to happen for them
to award their own championships, which is a controversial topic
unto itself. But I did specifically ask him, you know,
will they be working with other promoters or is this
going to be a league on its own? Fighters signed
with just them and they only compete against each other.
Here's what Dana had to say.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Yeah, I don't. I don't really know yet.

Speaker 12 (01:26:30):
Listen, I live in my own little bubble. I'm gonna
do my thing. I'm not worried about what any of
those guys are doing. And to be honest with you,
I think those guys are all they don't think big enough.
They don't think big enough. These guys have been in
the business for however long. And I like Eddie Hearn
and I listen, I see what Eddie her. Eddie Hearn

(01:26:50):
went like Oscar d Loo Hooya overnight, you know. But
he's got a lot of attention, so I get it.
But I like Eddie, and but I think those guys
all think small. They don't think the way that I think.
You know, I have Bob Aaron and you know, a
bunch of those guys in the past saying that this

(01:27:11):
model is ridiculous and it's a joke, the sport's a joke,
it's never gonna make it. And you know all the
things that they've said, But when you look at what
we've done, we've done things that have never been done
ever and in the combat sports industry.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
And I say it all the time.

Speaker 12 (01:27:28):
Tell me a business or sport that is generated trillions
of dollars in revenue and at the end of the day,
there's absolutely nothing there that is the sport of boxing
in a nutshell, And I just you know, all the
guys that want to compete with me and all the
stuff I think, I think way bigger than you guys do.

(01:27:49):
So I'm not competing with the other promoters. I'm competing
with whatever takes the attention of the fans on the
night that we're on television. It could be a release
of a big movie, it could be the NFL. It
could be your wife or your girlfriend that you got
to take out that night, your kids. That's my competition.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Look are you feeling like when he says stuff like that,
like they're not thinking big enough? And in some cases
I do wonder if he's right here. I just made
that mention that at some point it's all going to
probably merge together. I wonder if we start off as
sort of a prospect builder build fighters that will graduate
to Turkey. But don't you get the feeling that long term,
if Turkey and Dana are gonna partner together for this

(01:28:31):
much money, with this much at stake, that it's going
to be zuof of boxing, the UFC of boxing. And
that's where Turkey, Dana, Nick Conn and all the fighters
will live. Like I feel like that's the.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Endgame, right, I just don't see how. I mean, I
can see how there would be ways that some separation
would exist in the business over time. It's not to
say that they'll be exactly the same and they're going
to merge and automatically. I mean, I mean Turk Turkey
is already still part of zoof of Boxing, even at
this level anyway, So I mean that there's not really
no firewall, but you know what I mean, Like it

(01:29:01):
just becomes one seamless operation. I can imagine there'd be
some ways that would be departed, but like, what is
the natural conclusion of what if he's thinking this big
right and you're partnered with that entity, what other direction
does it go unless it just fails? Right, So if
it fails, okay, fine, but if it keeps going, like
just imagine what the inevitable conclusion is. And sometimes that

(01:29:22):
can be hard to do a year, two, three, five,
ten years out. But that's just what it that's just
where it's all headed. They're not trying to change and
it's a related conversation and we don't have to delve
into it espress right now. But I just want to
bring up they're not trying to change federal laws so
they can have a small footprint. They're not trying to
do these things where they're partnering with this enormous fund

(01:29:43):
of wealth to have a small footprint. All of this
is designed. Again, what about what Dana White has built
in UFC, even if you love every part of it,
what about that has been small in scale and small
in ambition? Nothing, nothing? Why would that change? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Yeah, that's why when we talk about the possibility of
simulcast on CBS, what if Turkey gives him a you know,
chakor versus Teo type main event, you feel the undercard
with ZUFA fighters, you put that live and free on CBS.
I wonder if we're headed in that type of direction.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
That's right, Yes, big.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
News right there. And of course the elephant in the
room is the ALI Act and whether the changes that
have been proposed to Congress that are supposed to be
looked at later this year are going to be necessary
for it or not to happen for ZUFA Boxing to happen.
I asked Dana that Dana Boxing seems to be split
over the proposed amendments to the Muhammad ali Reform Act

(01:30:38):
that it's expected to be presented in front of Congress
later this year and already has bipartisan support. We've seen
a lot of people split on this. How important are
these changes to be made to the idea of you
having success launching this league in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Well, let's be clear.

Speaker 12 (01:30:55):
There will be zero changes to the Muhammad ali Act,
not one word will be changed. And the Muhammad Aliak
we're going to add on to it. So the guys
who you know, guys being fighters that want to fight
under the Muhammad ali Ak exactly the way it is,
we'll have that opportunity to do that. And then or

(01:31:16):
you can bet on me and fight with me under
our version of the Muhammad Aliak. So that thing's been
blown a lot out of proportion. And I get it,
and I knew people were going to freak out because
that's what people do. But yeah, what was the question?

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
I said, Do you need those changes to happen to
launch your league in twenty twenty six?

Speaker 5 (01:31:40):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Or the amendments that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
You want to add on right right, No, but we're
doing it.

Speaker 12 (01:31:47):
I listened to the mob l Aliac was put in
place with all good intentions, but I think that it's
it's held the business back.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
So look, in some ways we already know new what
he said to be true, but I guess he's just
spelling it out even more. The old Ali Act will
stay what it is. You can stay with the four
sanctioning bodies and whatever promoters are not going to be
part of or whatever fighters and promotions are not going
to be connected to Zoofa Boxing. But if you're in
zuph Boxing, as he says, you're gonna bet on him

(01:32:18):
that those amendments in the long run will take care
of you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
Yeah. I mean we don't have to honor this. I
mean right, uh like, hey, uh this is you know,
this is gonna be Contender series, but it's gonna be
on CBS. Hey, we want to change federal loah, but
we don't need it for our product. And it's like,
who is this? Who is this intended to fool? Like
you don't actually need any of these changes? Oh, and

(01:32:43):
we're not. We're not changing the Act. We're not. We're
not altering one word. We're adding on to it. Yeah,
but the add on undoes the other stuff. We're at
a bare minimum grant's exemption to those who meet the
criteria that was designed by lobbyists and written by lobbyists
for your company. Like, what the fuck are we talking
about here? It's just it's saying to me. It's like
it's like, oh, we're not changing the ALIAC, we're just
adding on to it. And it's all this like oh no, no, no,

(01:33:06):
it looks like, oh, yeah, we don't need any of
those proposals for our business to work. Well, then why
do you want those changes and why do you want
it implemented? Like it doesn't none of this makes any
sense in terms of the answer and what material impact
it will have within your one or year two or
year five BC. I guess, I guess we'll see. But
I just don't understand rich people and very powerful people

(01:33:27):
changing motherfucking federal law on being like, yeah, we don't
really need this and we're not even changing anything. It's like,
just just say what it is you want to do
so we can have an honest conversation about it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Yeah, fair enough on that. We'll see how it all
plays out here. As Zufa Boxing set to launch in
January on Paramount Plus, we got a bonus topic Today,
Topic number six, and we're gonna look at a couple
of the biggest storylines surrounding Friday's UFC three twenty card
in Las Vegas, one of the final pay per views
here of the ESPN Era and this road the UFC

(01:34:00):
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slow you down. LT. We're gonna go deep on the
pregame preview on Friday, of course, but I am so
damn fired up, and I don't feel like people are
as excited as they should be for this main event
on Saturday, as Mago met Enklaiev looks to make the

(01:34:22):
first defense of his light heavyweight title that he took
via unanimous decision in March from Alex Pereira. It was
a big upset, but now we've got this new storyline
lingering here of what type of shape was Poeton really
in the first time around. I want to play one
piece of sound for you because I feel like this

(01:34:42):
is becoming a big narrative and then we can respond.
I did have Alex Pereira on the Brian Campbell Experience
this week and he revealed to me just how hurt
or ill. He won't tell me what happened, but he's
now coming clean that something held him back from his
best performance. Let's hear him talk about that. Deal with
that is not cool.

Speaker 13 (01:35:01):
But honestly, man, like, if I put together everything that
I was going on with me, and I'm not gonna
say it right now, it makes me even happy that
I was able to fight, to do the fight that
I did on everything that was going on in me.
I'm not trying to talk over there anything like that.
Of course, I'm not happy that with the lost bug
teno and like, you know what I mean, the way
that I fought, You know what I mean, I'm actually
even I'm surprised that I was able to fight, like

(01:35:22):
down everything that was going on with me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
What had What was the most difficult part about dealing
with ankle I IV in your first fight in March.

Speaker 13 (01:35:30):
I think the conditions that I was coming to that fight,
that I had come into that fights.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
So I mean, were you fifty percent of what you
normally are in that fight forty percent? Are you willing
to put a number on it?

Speaker 13 (01:35:41):
Honestly, I was about forty percent on that fight on
the nights, and obviously it's going to be much more
this time. But if I'm going fifty percent, that ten
percent is going to make such a great difference.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
I'm going to leave no doubt for your bad Luke.
If you remember, it was Joe Rogan who kind of
put it out there shortly after that fight in March
that Poets was battling norovirus that he had a broken hand,
although that was never confirmed by Perera, who doesn't like
to make excuses. I like that he's at least be
coming honest about this. Do you feel that news as

(01:36:12):
excuses for a guy that just lost his title or
are you of the belief that if he comes back
one hundred percent, this is an entirely different fight on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
I I'm open to the idea that it could be
an entirely different fight. I think if Poeton can move,
he's got he doesn't have to, he doesn't have to,
you know, think about his energy output so carefully that
his hand is obviously in a place where he can
deliver punishment. It's a different fight. The one thing I
will say, though, BC is and I will talk about

(01:36:44):
this on Friday, that you know when you look at
his takedown defense in that fight, like, okay, I mean
it basically did the job of stopping takedowns more so
that's great, but it looked he just looked so frightened
in those things. I mean, he was able to get them,
but like you could tell he was fighting it and
you want to fight him aggressively, but he was fighting
it in such almost like a safely neurotically defensive kind

(01:37:06):
of way. If that part is there because you're still
just afraid of the takedown or what the takedown might mean, well,
I don't know if you're gonna get a different fight, PCE.
Now you might get a boring fight, you know what
I mean. I'm not even saying it's going to be
a good fight, but I'm saying to the extent that
Poetson looks in his defensive wrestling like he did in
the first fight. Yeah, the good news is, by and large,

(01:37:28):
he's gonna be on his feet. The bad news is
what that signals is a certain kind of a hyper
defensive prioritization of something where it should be a little
bit more free flowing in the rest of his game.
And if he doesn't have that, then I think he's
got problems.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Yeah, and I do feel like he's not offering this
like I had asked him three separate times to sort
of give me like some form of an answer. I
get that he fought injured like most of that stretch
when he made all those title defenses in a short period.
He saved the card when McGregor broke his toe when
he was already battling a broken toe, and then broke
the a toe on the other foot in the fight,

(01:38:04):
so he's willing to take risks. I thought it was
a really good UFC Countdown episode that really put the
focus on this matchup. It's interesting, Luke, he lost the
first fight. He deserves to have lost the first fight
talking about Pereira, Yet he stuffed all twelve takedowns from macliath,
So it was like there was a win in that
and it wasn't as if Ankliath like left absolutely no doubt.

(01:38:27):
I thought he was the Claire winner, even though I
scored at three rounds to two. He was the better fighter.
He rocked poets on that one time. But I feel
like in some ways both fighters could do a lot
better than they did the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Yes, yes, absolutely to the extent that Poton was compromised
and he can get a better game plan, a lot
is more possible. On top of that, I think on
Cali have kind of heard a little bit of some
of the feedback. I'm sure he's happened to win the
title and feels like, you know, there's a degree of
happiness he has with a performance. But you know, I
think the fact that they're doing this again probably indicates

(01:39:00):
to him that he needs to do it more forcefully.
And BC he's had some wild you know, subsequent fights
with with previous opponents. So but that's another one where
you know, some of the rematches did not look the same.
So I'll be curious to see what this But but
I mean, he must know, he must know they put
you right back in this one because there's a little
bit of unfinished business, Like it wasn't it wasn't it

(01:39:22):
just wasn't a very enjoyable handoff of the belt from
one guy to the other. You know, they're gonna make
him do again.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
I think he won it with pressure. But even he
said to himself in the Countdown episode, he now sees
all these moments where there were openings to step in
after he hurt Poton and land more or openings to
secure a takedown when he had him backed up to
the cage that he didn't necessarily take. I mean, I
think we can say is he first team all donk
In some ways he is, but he's also tentative to

(01:39:50):
a fall, even though he was the guy putting on pressure,
and I think that was the reason why he had
so much success. I think they both can do a
lot better. I'm expecting a better rematch here in payment wise.
The Draftking odds at the moment, by the way, minus
two point fifty eight Anklia plus two ten Perreira. So
that's pretty damn interesting here Long Island. Look quickly on that.

(01:40:11):
Uh you gotta be you gotta be loving Perreira plus
odds to come back at age thirty eight and potentially
uh right, the wrong, right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:40:20):
I did get uncle Ive at plus money in the
first fight, so the odds are reversed this time around.

Speaker 5 (01:40:25):
I think I those are two plus two ten for Jesus,
I gotta take that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
Yeah, dude, I'm a I'm a believer that he will
be healthier, more vicious, and more active. Here's Poeton hitting
the pads with Planio Cruz there at the PI. Watch
the ferocity here? What don't dead wrong me? That was

(01:41:17):
obviously glover to sheriff for most of those there on
the business end. But Luke, any fighter can look dangerous
on the pads. But if he's going to be coming
forward rather than backing up in this rematch, it's it's
gonna be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
He looked the body language look good. But I mean,
that doesn't tell us much about takedown the fence. I'll listen.
I'll just say I'm excited for the fight. I think
most people are, especially a plus two ten. I'm not
a gambling guy, but just the notion of how people
dude people. Every twenty twenty four, how many of these
Jubbronis were like Poeton's the fighter of the year, and
at twenty twenty five they forgot about him. Yes, they
forgot about him. They don't care about the Shama. They

(01:41:52):
got him at plus two ten against on Calive. Well,
apparently twenty twenty four was not all that impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Interesting, Well, they had a little run in at the
PI that has been the big early topic in the
narrative storylines. Here's just a quick little sprinkle of the
two of them exchanging words.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Unfortunately, look they have to talk trash through a through
a translator app on the phone, so it loses that feeling.
But Perrera accused Ankolia of hiding at the p I
when he when he walked in, ankliav called him a liar.
They did, they met a few times, they did some
back and forth. I'm just like, you want to poke
the bear poeton. You want to make make him feel

(01:42:36):
like people forgot him. I mean, I hear people in
a may circle saying, you know, one more loss in
his career is over. Dude, this guy's about to this
guy might come back, and you almost have forgot on Saturday.
Seriously that type of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
Or dude, you have a moment on top and when
it's over, it it is over.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Well, here's one more clip of Pereira Aura farming at
a haunted house. If it's something these are we watching?
What the fuck is every single one?

Speaker 5 (01:43:10):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
You go?

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
I'm really glad we added that to the show. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Well, that was from have you seen This Ship? But
I pulled it for this to make it move back.
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fans here. Every Sunday night at morning combat on X
and the IG we give you a chance to get
your questions answered. This one's called DMS from all horned
up donkey. Yeah, that's that's still gross to me.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
Luke won't lie to you, it is disturbing.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
Our first question comes from nankissoor you go back in
time to twenty fifteen, you can speak with any fighter
for five minutes. Who do you choose and what do
you tell them? Interesting?

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Luke Thomas, Maybe Rousey.

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
But at twenty fifteen?

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
She uh, I guess that's twenty fourteen, right, I think it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
Was thirteen and she lost in December of twenty fifteen
to Hollyholm. I believe, right, Yeah, yeah, that's correct.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
What would I tell them? I don't guess. I guess
I understand what am I trying to tell them?

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
I think you're trying to save them from themselves. I mean,
you can't tell them about nine to eleven. You gotta
you know, like that's not gonna work up timeline wise.
Do you tell her don't take that home fight on
such a short turnaround when you're filming a movie and
don't trust Edmund to teach you boxing?

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
And yeah, I probably do that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
Okay, Okay, i'd probably Warren Kane.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
That's not a bad call. That's not a Yeah, that's
a good costs a much better call. Yeah, that's a
good one.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
Yeah. I don't know where else we're supposed to go
with this.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
I mean, uh, kind of a weird question.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
Yeah, get your get your name on the class action
lawsuits so you can collect in twenty twenty five. Maybe,
I don't know. I don't know. Okay, great, let's go
to the next question here, uh from a man and
his cat. If you could pick three combat sports athletes
for a dinner party, who would you have? And the
translators come for free if needed. LT give me a

(01:46:46):
in your damn dining room which three MMA fighters? And
don't do the bit where you relax.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
I mean, I'm a I'm allowed to reject performative gen reflection,
but we'll put that aside. I perform an.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Really jenniflect in hotel rooms all the time.

Speaker 6 (01:47:03):
I bet you do.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
Okay, let me think. Mmmm. The thing is, I would
have picked Jail, but I've interviewed him so many times
and I still occasionally stuck talked to him over text,
So I don't know if i'd put I mean, ordinarily
he'd be candidate one. Right, Yes, man, that's a good question.

(01:47:27):
Go first, I can get my like juices flown here,
like would you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
I love DC? Is he eligible? Can I pick Daniel Cormier?

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
Sure, that's a great conversationalist as well.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Yep, he'll He'll make you laugh, he'll make you feel good.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
I got one. Brian stand, I do, Brian stand? Okay, Okay, Joanna,
I'd rather go hungry?

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
All right? I mean, could I do wrong with Dustin
Poier or Max Holloway? I mean these are you know?

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
How could you go wrong with either? How could you
pick one o the other?

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
All right, I'm gonna pick all right, I got DC,
I got Youanna, and I got Layla Mature. No, sorry,
I got uh, Sean Brady.

Speaker 1 (01:48:17):
Sean Brady's pretty good. I'd add, I'd add, I'd add Max,
and then I'd add Man. I feel like we gotta
get you know what. Yeah, I'm gonna take yeah exactly. Well,

(01:48:37):
hold on, I'm actually gonna have the pairing of Holloway
and Volk together because rather than just trying to just
be like, oh, I want just three great names, I
want to pick people who had a rivalry and then
dig down in the rivalry. And I know it was
one sided in that sense, but still, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
Will you watch the second fight with them for the
fiftieth time in your life?

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
That would be the only case where I would be said, Okay,
maybe occasion where I.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
Would along Island Luke wants to cook with Vulk, and
then everyone else is awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
Sure, And then he says Gasoline because this is him
writing it. He reads Gasolum because he eats good.

Speaker 4 (01:49:11):
I'm just thinking of at a dinner party, Gaslom's gonna
be like, we need this, we need this. He's gonna
bring like good sides and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
You know, I think he might eat the side.

Speaker 5 (01:49:18):
I don't know if he's he will, but he's gonna
bring the good ship, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
What about Carlos Pratish if he was willing to smoke.

Speaker 5 (01:49:23):
Outside, that's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:49:24):
I was gonna say, you need a drinker, you need
a wild card, just heavy drinker, you know, like I
was thinking, tied to a vasa.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
So I was gonna god, I mean, but yeah, but
then he's gonna pee on your furniture.

Speaker 5 (01:49:33):
Yeah, he might be a little too wild. You know,
you gotta go a little tamer. But who else is
like like maybe like Paul Craig, you know, he might.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
Be okay, how about Paul Craig, Michael Kias like basically
our best room.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
Service diaries, like yes' is a good call too? Yeah,
oh yeah, there's something. There's a few different directions you
could go.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
Yeah, all right, interesting stuff. Our third question comes from
Kubbies fan eighty. If there was a mount rushmore of
one hit wonders, Flagpole said up by Harvey, danger has
to be on it right, yes for me? But yes,
what are your go to favorite one hit wonders.

Speaker 5 (01:50:07):
Of both umm.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
One hit wonders? Let's think about that. I mean, definitely
has to be And I said, what about.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
That deep blue something?

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
Yes, yes, that's gotta be on the list, right, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Onlin Yeah, I'll put that on their flagpoles. It about
Harvey danger.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
Let me ask a question. Are the Spin Doctors one
hit wonders?

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
No, they are. They're more of a one album wonder,
but they have multiple hits on that album.

Speaker 1 (01:50:34):
Okay, fair enough, fair enough.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
How about you Get what You Give by the New Radicals.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
Yeah, that's another good one. Uh what is that song
by the Knack?

Speaker 8 (01:50:43):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
Uh, my Sharona, my Sharona. Let mean, come on, that's
a banger.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
That's a banger. How about the Freshman by the verb Pipe?

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
Come on, come on, that's another good one. Yeah? Yeah,
what are someones we're not thinking?

Speaker 5 (01:51:00):
There were so many in the ninth Melon one hit Wonder,
No Rain.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
No Blind Melon was a bit they had a bit
of a following. That's a little different, but they.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
Were like yeah, yeah, yeah, how about uh, oh Matt
snot our buddy, our Daniel Snyder's nephew wants torn by
Natalie and Brulia.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
Didn't she have a career in Australia, wasn't she Australia?

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
Maybe? What about come On Eileen by Dexys Midnight Runners.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
I did plenty of that in college.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
Hey, oh goodness, goodness, Oh dude, I know which one?
Massie Starr? What's that? What's that song they had? Yeah,
fade into You. That's kind of a banger on the radio.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
I hate that song, of course you like it on
your Orange subar.

Speaker 5 (01:51:44):
What about Marcy Playground Sex and Candy?

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
Yes, yes, hanging around?

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
How about what about Local h Bound for the Floor.
I mean that wasn't the biggest hit, but you know
that's a.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
Good one time by Semi Sonic.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
That's a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:51:59):
We're only naming nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
So yeah, we are.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
Well, we're fucking in our forties. We are in LA
So what do you want from us?

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
Okay, okay, uh there we go. Good stuff there. Let's
hear it from Sergeant Molina. If you had to replace
yourself with one active fighter, you want active UFC fighter
to co host MK. I assume permanently co host MK.
So Luke, let's say tomorrow, I say, Cyan Rrow. We
had a good run. But the key is they're like,

(01:52:27):
we're only continuing with the show and paying you. If
you pick an active UFC fighter, who are you gonna call?

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
You're not easily replaced, I'll say that. Fuck, I don't
even know who could do the job. I'm not even
sure we could do the job at MMA media, much
less among active UFC fight long on Luke time in here,
Like what direction am I supposed to be going?

Speaker 5 (01:53:00):
I was going to say, like anyone who's a commentator
like Paul felderm is domm.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
They're not active the rules.

Speaker 5 (01:53:09):
You gotta be be throwing the hands, all right, Kiessa
is active.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
Still, guess I could do it. I have a good
rapport with kios So yeah, I mean that's probably the
closest I'm gonna get.

Speaker 5 (01:53:20):
This is hard who's good at breaking down fights as
an active fighter?

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
They're all they all have some ability. But the question
is not just that it's boxing, you know, it's talking
on camera.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
It's more humility maybe too, you bitch, bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
The entire show today was your catalog of interviews. Where
is this humility coming? Wait?

Speaker 7 (01:53:39):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
It was a big special. Yeah, it was a big focus.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
Yeah, I'm wait, let me look at the rankings. If
I had to replace Luke right now? Hey, Hey how
about Tom aspinall not bad?

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
Not bad?

Speaker 3 (01:53:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
Yeah, you know not because these British you might have
a little boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
Corey Sandagan, he's he's he's got dry humor for days, right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
Cory Santagan was the one that I can that popped
in my mind first, but I wasn't sure if it
was a good call or not.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I mean, or I could just go
like Montana.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
The way I found out something about Corey Sandhagen for
the fights. He is not working with Ryan Hall anymore.
I don't know why, but I did find that out
and keep that in mind because I think grappling's going
to be a pretty important part part of this fight.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
Indeed, indeed, let's go over our final question from Mike
Cringe in nineteen nine.

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
That's it, you nailed it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
I'm stealing this one from another podcast. But what would
twenty five year old BCNLT be most surprised about current day?
U Twenty five was the last year that I was
an absolute dirthole luke, So I would.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Do I'm still the same piece of shit that I
ever was.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
Wow, I would be entirely surprised about my life right now.
But the most surprised would be easily my career. Easily yeah,
not even like, not even close nothing, because.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
I think I think would be how little my life
has changed.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
Oh, get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
You don't really mean that kinda kinda I've done some
cool things.

Speaker 5 (01:55:17):
But.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
Wife and wife and daughter.

Speaker 1 (01:55:21):
Come on, now, I didn't say I wasn't lucky. I'm
talking about me personally. Talk about me personally. Yeah, yeah,
i'd probably say that there's I did not do the
things I thought I would do between twenty five and
forty five. Really yeah, yeah, I think I actually I

(01:55:43):
feel very comfortable saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
Do you realize there's still time or no?

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
Yes, yes, that's true. Yes, yes, life is full of dude,
life is full of. If there's one thing I've learned BC,
it's that it is very hard to predict the future.
Just when you think you've got to figure it out,
you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
I didn't think i'd be a part of the UFC
machine right now, I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
I did not think that turning that butter turn.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
Here we go, all right, Thank you for those dms.
Remember you can reach the show at Morningcombat at gmail
dot com. Tell Mikey we said, Hi, We're not gonna
play your fans or dead wrongs this Friday, but we'll
be back next week. So reach the show, show your privates.
It's Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Our final segment gives
me an opportunity to search the internet the highs and lows,

(01:56:29):
the good, the bad, the ugly, the in between for
the weirdest videos of the week to get Luke Thomas
to emote. This one's called have you seen this shit? Luke?
Let's check in on the NFL Reason number five thousand,

(01:56:51):
not to bring your family to a game. Here's forty
nine Ers versus Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
Why would you ever go to a football game?

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
Why would you bring your children?

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
Yeah? Like, what what on earth could possibly be the point?

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
All right? Watch that big guy in the red shirt closely. Okay,
the guy looks like Bio Cruise.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
I got my oh, dude to These people are drunk,
reckless zeros. They don't mind going to jail, and then
they want to sit around you. Why the fuck would
you ever go around these people?

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
Wow? Wow, yeah that's still going on. Look at that
guy in the wife beater right. Oh, I mean this
thing is just gonna keep playing world Star style.

Speaker 6 (01:57:35):
This is this is.

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
Yeah, this is why I have a big screen TV.

Speaker 2 (01:57:42):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
Alright, that's why this is why I'm a dedicated Samsung customer.

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
Yes, well, Luke, I got the footage of that moment
I mentioned from your team the Commanders. Here's Marcus Mriatta
sending your coach.

Speaker 1 (01:57:54):
To hell Mariota.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
But yeah, oh you know, same thing upside down right.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
Take that Dan Quinn.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
Wow, that head the head bounce. Did you see that?

Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
Yeah? It did and cut his nose too.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
Uh. The NFL was in Dublin this weekend. CBS Sports
was on the scene.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
Our good friend went out very quickly. NFL made it
to Croke Park before Connor McGregor.

Speaker 2 (01:58:15):
Amazing, amazing, Right, Well, the NFL pregame show there with
our good friend Amanda Gara, a G two. They had
a little bit of a drink off with the with
the analysts. Check out Kyle long hair.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
Okay, here we go. We're doing now.

Speaker 3 (01:58:30):
Okay, Kyle's just gonna check the whole thing like a
freaking champ Ireland.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
Okay, we love football, We love Ireland. Here at the
NFL to night plus, Kyle totally chugged it.

Speaker 5 (01:58:41):
You didn't quite get it, You didn't quite get it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:44):
Thanks for the beer boy.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
Wow, took that guy downtown?

Speaker 6 (01:58:47):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
Uh? That is Howie long Son?

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
I think so?

Speaker 12 (01:58:51):
Yes, Kyle?

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (01:58:52):
Yeah, yeah, that is uh?

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
Or was that Chris Long? Who's ky wait? Long Island? Look?
I always make football errors and get dead wrong hair?
Can you fill in here?

Speaker 5 (01:59:00):
I'm not the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
He's like bro, he doesn't play for the Jets. I
don't know ship.

Speaker 2 (01:59:05):
All right, let's let's head over to the food truck scene.
You ever seen this truck before?

Speaker 1 (01:59:13):
Crazy for Cox and asks what the fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:59:21):
I'd eat there? Luke, I'd eat there, desprite the name?

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:59:23):
You know what?

Speaker 7 (01:59:24):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
You know now BC and I are intrigues, you know, yes?

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
All right, Hey, it's UFC Perth time. Here's your question
of the week from the presser.

Speaker 8 (01:59:33):
Do you get do you do?

Speaker 7 (01:59:36):
You agree with everyone else that Carlos is the best
the best looking guy in the UFC.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
Man, I gotta I gotta fight this ugly as dude
right here?

Speaker 2 (01:59:47):
Are you serious?

Speaker 3 (01:59:53):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:59:53):
Sir?

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:59:56):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
Do you think they saw each other again? Luke?

Speaker 1 (02:00:01):
They should bring back corporal punishment in society.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
All right, let's hear from Jimmy Crup postfight look, he's
just one of us at the end of the day.

Speaker 10 (02:00:13):
And finally, any bestment couple.

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
Bees and karaoke to not that's what I'm feeling. What's
your charaokee? So anything by create? I reckon, I'm gonna
reap the fucking dude.

Speaker 5 (02:00:26):
Do you wanna do you want to give it a
crackna canduing me?

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
Home now, right, come on, come on, Luke. No, we
should do Creed Karaoke Night with MK if we had
a budget, that'd be great.

Speaker 1 (02:00:47):
Creed Karaoke Night. Yeah, I think we'd get thrown out
of any bar we.

Speaker 2 (02:00:52):
Did that where our fans come and then we all
just get sloppy.

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
And all right that that would be a little bit
different that I might do.

Speaker 2 (02:00:59):
But Luke, with the holiday season is coming on fast,
I got some gift ideas for you. I mean, you know,
not directly from you, to be fair.

Speaker 1 (02:01:12):
Yeah, maybe maybe I'll give that gift certificate to my wife,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:01:15):
Yes, thank you very much. Your riz of the Week
shout out to the Wrizzler goes to this guy, the
tea smasher. Look at this guy.

Speaker 1 (02:01:22):
Yeah, that is the weirdest build on a man. I
have ever seen you know that guy bangs?

Speaker 2 (02:01:29):
You know it?

Speaker 1 (02:01:31):
I mean absolute whoors?

Speaker 2 (02:01:33):
But yeah, all right, let's go back to our famous
segment would you eat?

Speaker 7 (02:01:37):
Now?

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
Look, this was proved to be fictional AI and not real,
but Branson, Missouri, once considered having the first McDonald's buffet
at twelve ninety nine, selling cheeseburgers, nuggets, and fries. Would
you eat for twelve ninety nine?

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:01:54):
I would take that thing down.

Speaker 1 (02:01:55):
Yes, I mean that food is all beige, but I
would listen. I ate at fucking roy Rogers buffets. What
on earth could be worse than that at McDonald's. Nothing? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
Well maybe this next food on him? Would you eat this?

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
Luke?

Speaker 2 (02:02:10):
They called a ravioli dog?

Speaker 1 (02:02:12):
No, because I'm not in prison.

Speaker 2 (02:02:15):
Sorry, it's called a weeni.

Speaker 1 (02:02:17):
This is the kind of food Long Island Luke makes
for his girlfriend, which is why his relationships.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
Hell no, hell I would totally eat that out of
his house and then hit that jobt.

Speaker 1 (02:02:25):
It's like, yeah, what's on top of that hot dog? Yeah?
Bee for RONI? Yeah, I'm good, Luke.

Speaker 2 (02:02:29):
Our next final would you Eat? Is mixing two of
my favorite things, maybe just not together at the same time.

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
You know, some British piece of shit came up with this,
These dog food eating motherfuckers. Why would I eat this?
Even on a dare.

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
Yeah, we make that joke on my boxing pod with
Rae where he's like, you know, my favorite two things
in the world are women in boxing, just not at
the same time.

Speaker 1 (02:02:51):
Right by the way, you know who I talked to
last week very briefly. I didn't tell you about this.
I will after the show. Uh, uh, are are what
was his name? The fuck Jake? Basically Jake, Jake von Amsterdam,
Jake von Amsterdam. Yeah, I spoke to Jake von Amsterdam.

Speaker 2 (02:03:09):
All right, nice, I love that guy.

Speaker 1 (02:03:11):
We'll see, we'll see all right.

Speaker 2 (02:03:13):
Uh your your police check of the week. Uh check
this out, good old Brandon missus.

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
I saw this watch this hit. Oh fucking lord, dude.
And if you hear the audio, he lands on that
thing like like I don't know, like I mean they
they He actually gets up, he goes, you broke my back.
You broke my I bet he did, sir. Don't run

(02:03:41):
in cuffs, doctor.

Speaker 2 (02:03:42):
Said, I need to back out of me, Luke. Lacrosse
can be a dangerous game. Be careful before putting your
kids in it. Check out this referee in this game.

Speaker 1 (02:03:52):
Oh dude, that has to be It wasn't. No, it
wasn't the bozak, but it was that insort inside soft
power of yea.

Speaker 2 (02:04:02):
It gets worse for this lacrosse player. Let's watch this.

Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (02:04:08):
First, he gets punched in the face and then hit
in the face by the those balls.

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
Those lacrosse balls, those things are weapons. That is an
insane level of punishment to take.

Speaker 2 (02:04:19):
Look. Want to see my dream couch from my first apartment.
I wish I had this. I would have probably gotten
the same amount of sex though to be fair, right, you.

Speaker 1 (02:04:25):
Know, anybody who gets laid in that apartment must be
the world's best lover, because no straight woman would ever
want to fuck a guy there.

Speaker 2 (02:04:35):
All right, let's go to the assembly. Here's your three
pointer of the week. Watch the balls on this kid, Dude,
I'm here for that.

Speaker 1 (02:04:52):
You know, you know that kid ain't gonna amount to
nothing in life.

Speaker 2 (02:04:55):
Probably not. Let's set up our crash outs of the week. First,
we'll check out Goooter Karen.

Speaker 1 (02:05:00):
Here they were buddys? Was that German?

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
I think it was Dragon? Actually, I don't know that
was pretty scary. Uh, let's go to the tennis court
for the next rage out. That's great.

Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
You know, I will say this, Karens actually do have
you know how like buzzards. You need them in the
ecosystem to like eat dead things. You could be like
I would never want to do that. They're fucking gross,
the horrible, but you need them. You do need Karens.
But when they get to that level where they're just
completely unstable pieces of ship, then you don't need them anymore,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:06:03):
Well, look to close on our rage outs crash outs here.
There's obviously those Instagram TikTok trends where kids run into
stores and cause mayhem and end up being assholes, and
I usually don't approve of it, but this one made
me laugh.

Speaker 10 (02:06:15):
Yeah, I don't get to fuck this. Mother's damn for
to the bar.

Speaker 2 (02:06:19):
I'm not giving you nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:06:20):
I'm not bringing a pie home.

Speaker 10 (02:06:23):
Get the fuck out of here, right, pull the cops. Yeah,
get out here, Bring your fucking bombs down here, tell
them the.

Speaker 1 (02:06:37):
Scream and be like that in my fucking restaurant. Mind,
Get the fuck out here. That's your fucking calm down.
Mister clean.

Speaker 2 (02:06:43):
Yeah, Hey, Lou Devella, chill out for a second.

Speaker 1 (02:06:45):
All right, come on, I mean these got I mean
these people just didn't. You gotta and you gotta fuck
with people who deserve to be fuck with random restaurant
owners or not those people.

Speaker 2 (02:06:56):
Well, somebody left with somebody's a bola hair and it
gave us our t shirt of the week. Do you
approve of this?

Speaker 1 (02:07:04):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (02:07:06):
Are you buying what she's selling? Luke?

Speaker 1 (02:07:09):
Not exactly my type, but I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (02:07:11):
Okay, all right, we've got our tattoo of the week.
Please rate it, Luke.

Speaker 1 (02:07:19):
Jesus Christ. Wow, that is a negative nine thousand, eight
and twenty three. That is really bad.

Speaker 2 (02:07:32):
Boy, this this is a bad, bad batch of shit.
Here nothing, nothing's really working a little dark. Let's cut
our KOs of the week. Let's hit the taekwondo game here,
match boom.

Speaker 1 (02:07:46):
That will, dude. I'll say you what, in taekwondo, every
once in a while you get some i mean quite
literally acrobatic knockouts.

Speaker 2 (02:07:52):
Right, Damn, that was a good one. Watch this next one.
Watch the guy on the left.

Speaker 1 (02:07:59):
Oh that's what I'm saying. Maybe this is a karate
I'm not even sure it's rolling thunder Boh.

Speaker 2 (02:08:06):
That is so good the tim all right, we got
one more ko the week. It comes from this foreign bar.

Speaker 1 (02:08:29):
Damn that you gotta get that guy in an action movie.

Speaker 2 (02:08:32):
Seriously, that was wow. That guy had it coming to it.
You could tell wow. All right, Uh, Luke, it wouldn't
be h y Sts without a visit from Celne the
cake lady.

Speaker 1 (02:08:43):
Oh my god, yeah, eat that dog food, you absolute demon.
Yeah yeah, I bet it tastes delicious.

Speaker 2 (02:08:51):
Is a cake or not? Luke turns out right, Yeah,
here comes the.

Speaker 1 (02:08:53):
Why don't you cut the cat up to demonic force?
And oh there's the coffee maker, which of course is
not real plastic eating wench. Yeah, and she looks so yeah, yeah,
just I do I have one time I saw a
homeless man.

Speaker 2 (02:09:07):
Oh eating the bag. She has to eat weird shit.

Speaker 1 (02:09:15):
You can just eat your clothes.

Speaker 2 (02:09:21):
There's only one place for her to go next, Luke,
and that's porn obviously.

Speaker 1 (02:09:25):
All right, this is just gonna start gobbling on genitalia.
It's gonna be unbelievable. Dude, Why can't you just eat
normal ship? Okay, all right, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:09:34):
Luke will close with this. Would you drink this?

Speaker 1 (02:09:43):
Hey? Yeah, I'd rather get fucked to death by an
aid dickt Walras.

Speaker 2 (02:09:48):
All right, that may have been the worst ship we've
ever seen. I hope you saw it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:51):
That was awful.

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
What a bad batch. They can't all win, Luke, Sorry.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
They can't all They can't all win. That's how life goes.

Speaker 2 (02:09:58):
We'll be back Friday. That thank you for tuning in today.
It will be pregame preview UFC three twenty brought to
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Check it out Friday, eleven am Eastern. Please follow the
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(02:10:19):
out my extended YouTube channel, so thank you very much
for that one.

Speaker 1 (02:10:22):
Yeah, we already did.

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(02:10:46):
Mix and match your colors at Morningcombat Dot Shop. No Seda, brother,
what do you got anything?

Speaker 5 (02:10:53):
I got a UFC three twenty bet breakdown coming out tomorrow.
I'm doing Jed's podcast this week, No Bets Bard, so
check that out. UH prop Quiz dropping Friday, watch along Saturday.
You know the drill, Baby, Let's go he lt.

Speaker 2 (02:11:05):
I don't know if you saw, but I took home
the uh the one Honda from from winning the prop
Quiz tournament.

Speaker 1 (02:11:12):
You won the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (02:11:13):
Upset City against you and Mike Kec and then I
took Shaquille Maljudi to the to the woodshed, smoked him.

Speaker 1 (02:11:21):
Wasn't even close, It really wasn't.

Speaker 5 (02:11:23):
There was a conspiracy theory, Luke, that you spoiled it
on last episode of m K because you called BC
the prop Quiz champion and everyone.

Speaker 1 (02:11:32):
Though I hadn't told you exactly tell you there's no
I don't care enough to know what advanced I figured.

Speaker 5 (02:11:39):
I said, I was trying to tell everys not me.

Speaker 1 (02:11:42):
I'm happy for BC, and actually I do think Longland
loops onto something, but like I have things to do,
I'm not in any way paying attention to that. That's funny.

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
All right, there you go.

Speaker 1 (02:11:51):
That's great, dude, everything's coming up, Campbell.

Speaker 2 (02:11:53):
Look at this, brother, I'm on I'm on a heater
right now. Okay, so let's go. Let's go. LT Do
you want to all the people off to close the show?

Speaker 1 (02:12:02):
Yeah, I'll probably be putting a gun in my mouth
after today's episode. I'm teasing. I'm teasing Friday. As you mentioned,
we have pregame. I'm gonna race back home as fast
as it can. I look this up. You see. I
think the prelim card for PFL is eleven. I think

(02:12:23):
the main is a little bit later. Those are like
two or I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (02:12:28):
Well, now you know you tend to know things.

Speaker 5 (02:12:31):
So I think they have it listed as just one card.
They don't have like prelims, and the one card starts
at noon, so I think Luke's right like the main
will be a little later in the Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:12:40):
So my point is I will probably do a post
fight show both for USBAN two as well as of
course I'll watch along on a post fight show for Saturdays.
UFC three twenty should be a lot of.

Speaker 2 (02:12:50):
Fun, good stuff. Check it out there. What do we
call your channel? Luke Thomas dot.

Speaker 1 (02:12:53):
Com, just just YouTube dot com, slash Luke Thomas. That's it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
There, it is there, it is check it out. Thank
you so much for joining us this Monday. Have a
great week. It is fight week UFC three twenty. Let's
get fired up. Should be a good one, very good,
very good main card this weekend, so check all that out,
check out our preview on Friday, and until then, take
care of yourselves. We are out of here.

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