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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Reveal reveale.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Look at us now, timptop.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Jesus.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh do you want about.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Using will be luck?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's time to back? Oh yeah, can you feel it?
It's Monday morning. Put a smile on your face. It's morning.
Combat back in your facehole here. April seventh, twenty and
twenty five. Shout out to all our waken bakers, pregnancy fakers,
and anyone else in between. Hey, it's Brian Campbell at

(00:54):
BBC with that BDE alpha style coming at you right now.
My co host though from Washington, d C, home of
the Great Eight himself. The all time leading goal scorer
from the Washington Capital is Alexander Ovich. Keen, It's Luke Thomas. Luke.
Are you fired up about life or what super fired up?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yesterday was a great day. Ovechkin broke the record, which
was amazing. He did it in Long Island, which you know, sorry,
Long Island, Luca is a fucking dump. But aside from that,
if I may, he who got the win yesterday? Just
saying Islanders, who cares? Who's in first place? At Eastern Conference?
We're fighting for a playoff spot.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
A lot of we in there.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
What's going on in the first place? Who's in first place?
But all right, but that aside, And then I took
the tuchster to it's like a comic con, like not
rip off. But you know, they can't call it comic
comt it's like a it's called awesome con. And saw
a lot of nerds in their costumes yesterday. But b see,
if I may say something, these were amazing costumes. Also,

(01:54):
I gotta tell you, I guess I'm ignorant about this.
I didn't realize how vast expensive the lightsaber market is.
Did you know this?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, I'm forty six years old.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Tho, Okay, there were lightsabers on sale yesterday, I'm not kidding.
Well in excess of one thousand dollars. Well in excess anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
It was selling fingers at all. Look anyone shooting things
out of their finger now?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
So they did. There was there were people doing they
had iron man masks. They were people selling web shooters.
And also BC last thing, if I may last thing
I get asked all the time, Hey, luke, I'm visiting
the nation's capital. What's a good place to eat? Brother?
I've said this before, I will say it again because
I went back yesterday. Because it's actually right close to
the convention Center where the We're Awesome con was.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
We guess pedo pizza.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
No no, no, no, no, what you mean like pink
you're doing like a pet oak joke. But it's not
even a real thing that they're.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Talking about so much material.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's actually right by the convention Center. It's called Unconventional Diner.
And I brought it up before because they've got an
amazing burger. I went back yesterday BC. They had a
Today's letyas strawberry shortcake might have been the best piece
of cake I've ever had in my entire fucking life.
Unconventional Diner there you go.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oh well, we raise a glass to everybody who lost
all their stocks.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
And yeah, don't check your four O one k cuz
it's not there.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Welcome on in though as well. We got a great
show for you today. Look at I mean, we might
have great topics or great material, but you know we'll
fill in the blanks, don't you worry. UFCAPEX recap from
over the weekend. Tim zusback with a TKO on the
boxing scene, and we will look ahead to Saturday's UFC
three fourteen Loaded card with a little taste of early storylines.

(03:42):
But do I need to remind you of what's going
on guys two days from now this Wednesday, April ninth,
eleven am in the East on the YouTube's in lieu
of Friday's episode, we're gonna move it up two days
earlier for my vacation. Thank you very much, And it's
pregame preview brought to you by Cuervo BC lt Jed

(04:02):
Mesh you Deuce, It's gonna be a great time. Do
not miss that. Also, we'll take your questions today from
the DMS. We'll look at my shit. It's gonna be
a wild ride, So buckle up, enjoy the show. And
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(04:25):
the podcasts on the DraftKings network. Luke, we're gonna absolutely
bring it today. Okay, you want to dedicate today's show
to anybody.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
To our viewers who are watching us recap UFC Fight Night,
Emmett versus Murphy, how about that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Wow, Well, in lieu of that, in honor of that
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now is the time where we hear from the man
who came to us directly from an Ause's ball back.
It's the main card minutes, Luke Nocita, Hey, Hey.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
What's up? Guys? UFC Vegas one oh five?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Not my favorite card?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Did you? Did you do the whole card again? Now?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
I just did the main card, but did even the
main card was bad? I mean we started off with
the Terrez Finny fight. It only went you know.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Oh, we'll talk about it. That Terrez Finny fight is
one of the legit worst UFC fights I've seen.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
And I don't know how long I agree it was bad.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
All right, there you go, So buckle up, get ready.
You're gonna get a lot of great analysis from these
guys right here. And I think the show starts right
about now. Let's go. Topic number one. UFC Apex was back.
Laron Murphy played it safe in the main event, improving
to sixteen zero to one overall as the featherweight contender

(05:47):
scored what the Internet called a very uninspiring five round
unanimous decision win over Josh Emmett three rounds to two
on two scorecards, four rounds to one on the third.
So Luke, let's put it out there. Considering Murphy was
legitimately booed during his post fight interview while exiting the
cage and roundly accosted on Twitter slash x, does Murphy

(06:11):
actually deserve the vitriol he had received here or should you?
In your opinion, there'd be more room and elite mixed
martial arts for efficient point fighting, regardless of entertainment value,
maybe even under the old mindset of Floyd Mayweather hit
and not get hit. Does the MMA community have a
right to drop a dougie all over Larone's efficient and

(06:34):
winning performance on Saturday?

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Okay, this is this is a tough one. Let me.
I don't want to get up here and I'm not
going to I'm not going to get up here today
and be like, oh, if you didn't like that fight,
you know you've got terrible tastes of MMA. I'm not
I'm not going to make that argument or if you
didn't like this fight, you know something's wrong with you.

(07:00):
That's really not at all my point. I don't think
that's quite true even a little bit. Now, that is
not me saying that I hated this fight. In fact,
I did not. I thought it was fine. I thought
it was fine. What I would say too, on top
of that, in addition to the fight being fine, was
that Loroon Murphy is obviously incredibly skilled. He has outrageously

(07:23):
good footwork, He is defensively quite sound. It certainly wasn't
this fight. It was a very defensively sound performance and undefeated,
good athlete, fantastic cardio. You know, he's kind of on
the back foot for basically the majority of the fight
and was able to move as well in the fifth
as he did in the first. Something I like to
point out too. You'll note that Loroen Murphy went the

(07:45):
distance with Josh Emmett, so did Ilia to Poria. Now,
iliat to Poria landed one hundred and fifty two significant
strikes and recorded three takedowns in one knockdown. Loaren Murphy
didn't do that, however. Emmett landed eighty seven significant strikes
against Iligo to Poria. He landed just forty one against
Laron Murphy. I'm not telling you he did better against
Loroen Mr or excuse me that Laren Murphy did better

(08:06):
against him than Iliah. He got hit a little bit less,
but of course he did a lot less on the
offensive end. And I think, to me, BC, that's actually
where the conversation is. There's nothing, by itself really wrong
with what Laron Murphy did. It's not like you can
look at this fight and be like, man, he didn't
step on the gas in a way that he could have,

(08:28):
or he didn't live up to his potential, I mean,
or some other kind of way where you can describe
that Laron Murphy in a way in which we understand
him better didn't perform up to his capabilities. But what
we can say, and I think what the fans are
feeling is one and I know we'll talk about it.
The Torres Finny fight on this card was an absolute
disaster of just a disaster of the highest order. The

(08:50):
Comane was again not a disaster, but not thrilling. The
Pat Sabatini Britoo fight was not super thrilling, and so
that's part of it. But the bigger issue to me
is two problems are happening. One, you're getting some talent
that is just not really all that capable of doing
certain things. That's not necessarily the case here in the

(09:11):
main event, but there's this accumulative feeling that we're not
getting the same kind of action that we have been
accustomed to over time. And I think the bigger problem
BC is that MMA appears to be as filled as
I've ever seen it at the elite level, which, to
be clear, Laren Murphrey is at He's an elite fighter

(09:33):
of guys who are round managers, who don't appear to
have very good finishing ability or instincts. And when you
kind of add up all of this together, Laron Murphy was,
you know, I'm not gonna say the straw that broke
the camel's back because Finny got booed several fights before that.
But b see, there is a bigger story involved, and

(09:55):
I know sometimes like we don't want to start the
show on a negative note. Again, I thought Murphy fought well.
I think he is a talented guy, but the broader
set of circumstances to which he is partly a contributor,
I think he is wearing a little bit thin on people.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I agree it's more than one thing, because all I
heard about I fell asleep right before the main event,
to me fully honest with you, and ended up finally
watching it this morning. But I had read so much
vitriol that I assumed he avoided contact altogether. You know,
just had fought one of the purposely worst fights you'd
ever seen. I'm not gonna come back and say it

(10:30):
wasn't fully that case, but you know what I took
away from the performance, I'm really impressed. Murphy has elite skills,
his cardio, his takedown defense, his defense in the pocket
as Emmitt is throwing bombs. Like I said off the top,
his ability to hit and not get hit is truly elite.
But it's sports and entertainment at the same time. So

(10:52):
I understand people not wanting him in the main event.
I understand people rightfully saying he's probably gonna have to,
you know, win in a ridiculous like the John Fitch story.
He's probably gonna have to just win and win and
win and win no matter what, and hope for the
seas to part at the right time for a title
shot to come. But I do think there is room

(11:15):
in all sports for different styles, even if those styles
are not TV friendly. I think that there's some element
of misdirected hostility here from the Torres Finny fight, from
the fact that after Mexico City was rocking, we're back
in the Apex. You put this guy in the main event.
It wasn't a deep card. Not only are we complaining
about the overall water down effective UFC at the highest level,

(11:38):
but it feels like the fans are finally bubbling up
and joining us in that because they're the ones that
are actually paying. They're not getting too expense the pay
per views, although they're probably stealing them most of the
time anyway, but that's neither here nor there. As one
DC native likes to say, so, will this hurt Murphy's
long term progress? Yes, but not everybody has to Dana

(12:00):
White Contender Series factory style and drop their guard and
bleed for everybody. So it was kind of like wrong place,
wrong time for Murphy. Yet I exited that, being like, damn,
he's gonna be hard to beat at the elite level.
I kind of want to see that style against some
of the better fighters in this division. But I fully
understand if the UFC watches that, if the matchmakers go,

(12:23):
oh crap, we probably shouldn't give a guy this platform. Again,
that's the game we're in right now. It is entertainment
at the end of the day. And Luke, I never
expected him to get booed mercifully during that postfight interview.
I didn't even expect this piece of content that John
Morgan shot rings cage slot. Excuse me of Murphy getting
heckled as he exited the cage too. I mean, it

(12:58):
may have been hard to hear there, but there's one
guy screaming, you ran for five rounds, you ran away.
And I don't think he ran away. He was in
the pocket. He was just slipping shots and did the
whole hit and not get hit things. So you know,
both sides of the argument are correct. In this case.
He was boring as f in the larger scheme. It
will affect him in the long run. But he also

(13:20):
apparently climbed another notch in the rankings. And Luke, I
mean tru or false, it's gonna be hard for the
elites to overcome this guy.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Dude, John Fitch used to be a guy who you
were like, not that there's one of him, but there's
just not many of him. He was kind of like,
I'll just say this, there's just a bunch of John Fitches. Now,
there's just a bunch There's a bunch of guys who
are very very skilled. And by the way, I like
John there, she's a good fighter. But what I mean

(13:50):
by that is or he was a good fighter anyway,
But what I mean by that is this, like, you know,
very very labor intensive kind of singular way of fighting
that is hard to pull off, and you have to
beat good guys all the way around, but a to
the point you ray, is very difficult to get a
title shot off of that. I mean, Laren Murphy just
beat a very good fighter, but he did it in
a way that it's just simply not going to move

(14:12):
the needle, I think for his interest. And this is
at a time when featherweight is very very hot, meaning
there's gonna be a lot of other pieces moving and
I think a lot of other people are gonna get
title fights ahead of him, even if maybe they're not
necessarily as deserving. I guess we want to see how
that all goes. But you know, it's just a really
weird time. And I was talking with somebody on social
media about this and they also added this point too.

(14:32):
It's like this other part to Laron Murphy, where now
maybe BC we're feeling this because we're across the pond.
But there's just a lot of guys who like, don't
do interviews, who don't do a lot of media. You
see them show up on the Apex or some kind
of main card. And again, dude, Laron Murphy is very,
very good. I just think it's silly to try and
argue anything other than that. If you didn't like his fight, fine,

(14:53):
if it's not interesting to you, fine, But I don't
want to hear anything about he's not good. He's very good,
but he's good quietly in a non finishing kind of way,
and then doesn't do a lot of media. It's like, dude,
I don't know what. Like that's not really serving their
interests very much. It's certainly not serving UFC's interest, and
that sort of question if it's serving the fans interest
more broadly, I don't know what the answer is. I

(15:16):
don't want guys to get out there and just say
things for the for the effect of it. But something's missing,
something's missing a little bit here. And again, dude, I
know I know what the fan Oh, here are these
guys complaining again, would the fans really feel differently after Saturday?

(15:36):
I mean, it's one card, it's not the entire roster,
But I don't know. I felt like a few things
that have been in the pipeline, some kind of problems
that have been things that we've identified or otherwise are noticeable,
kind of came to a head on this on this card.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Right And and I always say, in all sports, there's
many different ways to do it. I covered high school
basketball for years. I remember this one team that had
no player above six feet tall was playing another state
powerhouse with a six to seventh center in the tournament,
and they held the ball in a pre shot clock era.
They held the ball and they won the game by
one point. And it was a brilliant strategy to do that.

(16:14):
But you don't want that in the main event during
a time when the apathy is growing. Right there, and
we have a meme to show in three parts, this
is basically what the fans really believe, Luke, it seems
a little bit blurry, is that Loron Murphy? Let me
check my glasses here and find out next one? Oh yeah,

(16:35):
it was. It looked a lot like Leon Edwards though,
Luke right. I mean that's that's unfortunately the lot that
that Murphy's being thrown into because the apathy for Edwards
at this point is not as high as well. But
we the fans had their opinion. We had our opinion.
But maybe time for shots fired. Brought to you by
Quervo to hear Loroen Murphy's opinion. Yeah, and look, if

(17:03):
we can begin with the tweet from Murphy, he says,
clinic real MMA. Fans will appreciate the technicality of that fight.
That's fight IQ punishing elbows in closed body kicks, neat footwork,
had him hurt a few times. Why would I stay
in the pocket with a power puncher, float like a butterfly,
sting like a bee baby? And we also have sound

(17:26):
from Murphy to add on to this. Let's listen in.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yes, people feeling gray after the fight, no damage, masterclass
broken down, stet to the game plan, didn't get wold
in any scry struppy stuff, and he couldn't hit No.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Look, it was technical, it was no thriller. Can't put
those two words together. But in your opinion, does Murphy
have a point here?

Speaker 1 (17:47):
He does have a point. Yes, I mean it's not
a question of excitement. I think that one folks are
more than I mean. Let me just ask a question here,
because I do think it's important to listen upcoming next
week or of this coming weekend. We have UFC three fourteen, right,
I mean, just an excellent card, no matter which way

(18:09):
you want to look at it, not just on the
main card, but in particular that main card. It's very
very easy to understand how a promotion could be like, Hey,
it's gonna be worth taking time out of your schedule
to make this a night for us to dedicatedly say,
like on that Saturday night, we're watching UFC and I'm
pushing anything else I might want to do to the
side because look at what it's offering me. How on

(18:29):
earth do you make that argument for a card like that? Now, again,
it's not nearly the same argument in terms of like
the prestige or the value or the importance, but time
away from doing other things to watch it? What is
the argument there? And I simply don't even know what
that could possibly be. I don't I don't quite get it.
So when Laren Murphy says what he did was impressive,
he's right. When he says float like a butterfly hit

(18:52):
and not get hit. All of these things these core
tenants of what fight sports are kind of about. To
be honest with you, I agree, But here's the part
that he's missing. BC. Here's the part that he's missing.
There was an interview sometime in the twenty tens. I'd
have to go find it. I remember it because it
was a big deal at the time that the Atlantic
magazine had spoken to both Dana White and then also

(19:13):
Lorenzo for TITA. And we've talked about the way Lorenzo
described something, but when he was trying to explain why
UFC was so exciting to people, his argument was, it's
full of oh shit moments, these moments where something happens
and you're like, oh my god, did you see that?
You're looking around. This is like crazy kind of an event,
and it's like you just went twenty five minutes and

(19:35):
you didn't even get close to one of those. Now, again,
you don't have to every time, but if there's bigger issues,
and then, in particular the one I'm kind of identifying,
which is you got a lot of good fighters now
who don't have big media profiles and are not aggressive finishers.
Are we getting enough of the oh shit moments as
an entertainment quotient. I leave that question to the fans,

(19:56):
but it's certainly something I'm wondering.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's a very very fair point, and that was shots fired,
brought to you by Cuervo. And by the way, now's
a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.
Of course you'll be seeing a lot of Quervo come
Wednesday for pregame preview. I think you make a lot
of great points there, Luke regarding that, but he's gonna
move forward. He Laura Murphy was ranked number ten coming in.

(20:19):
I believe him it was seven or eight right around there.
So Luke, in the postfight press conference and in the
cage as well, you did get Murphy saying I want
Brian Ortega next. And the reasoning he says is that,
Yeahiar Rodriguez once went through Brian or Tega and he
went directly into a first and interim title shot and
then the full championship opportunity. He wants to follow that

(20:40):
same path. Is Ortega the right call out in this spot?
And how high do you believe before we get Zuck
and the AI rankers in here? Will Murphy move up
or should deserve to move up in these featherweight rankings.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
All right, so he beat a number eight guy, I
could see him taking that spot. But I mean, you know,
al Jamaine Sterling is sitting at nine, and I understand that.
You know he's coming off of that Mosar loss, and
so you know your position is gonna be somewhat affected
by it. But I would still rate him a little
bit more highly in terms of upside, believe it or not,
uh at on at least in terms of who I

(21:18):
think he could be at the best end. Yeah, I
mean I think I think taking Emmett's spot is probably fine.
But you know, you mentioned Ortega at six. I don't
know if Ortega is gonna want that. You start also
have Arnold Allen sitting at seven and then.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
All real quick or Tega is threatening to move up
and wait constantly.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, there's also that obviously as well. I mean there's
there's a bunch of factors kind of involved here. Now again,
pitt Bull is gonna get added to the mix. He's
not in the rankings currently. We'll see what happens after
this next weekend and the like. So it's not like
ane to me. I mean, this is gonna sound like
we're just beating up on the Rohan Murphy for the
fuck of it, and we're not. He turned in a
very commendable performance, not just because he beat a good guy,

(21:55):
but because he beat a good guy who barely touched
him and over the course of twenty five minutes. That's
extremely difficult and very very impressive to do. But it's
the kind of question you always have to ask yourself.
It's like a politician winning an election. Do they win
it by a little bit or do they win it
by a landslide? And the bigger that you win it
gives you a mandate to do more with it. This

(22:16):
one is valuable, but I don't think it's kind of
like rocket charging him up the rankings, or to the
rocket charging him into some kind of future big fight.
It could, but I wouldn't bet on it right away.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, I wouldn't hate if he fought Arnold Allen in
the UK to actually give the fans what they want. Cool,
But Luke, did you want to address There's heavy rumors
overnight on Twitter, not not necessarily from a huge recutable account,
but that Aaron Pico could be entering this Fatherway division,
the former Belator, huge prospect and then you know, after
a couple collapses did bring it back around, and there's

(22:52):
rumors he could be in a Fight Night main event
against Mossarvlov, which is interesting politics onto itself. But Laura
Murphy Pico or is that promotional malpractice?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
I mean, Pico is fighting another guy, one of these
guys we just talked about, very good, highly Okay, So
the rumor is that he's fighting Mosar, which, by the way,
I didn't see bigger reputable accounts back up yet, which
doesn't mean it's not true, but we kind of have
a wait and see approach with it. But here he is,
they've got to match it up against Mosar, who is,

(23:26):
you know, another one of these John Fitch types that
they don't have great finishing instincts of more ability, but
they're very, very tough and there are heart outs for everyone,
and they're very very skilled. I think l I think Lron,
I'm not sure what the right answer is, to be
honest with you, because his whole game is predicated on neutralizing, right.

(23:49):
You asked me on Friday, like what stands out about
his game? And I think you saw a lot of
it there. It's it's just a lot of blendedness where
you know, he didn't go for takedown a whole lot
or I don't think hardly at all. In this fight.
It was more about sticking and moving, working behind the
jab and footwork. But you know, when he needs to
everything kind of gets mixed in together. But the real
common denominator is the sort of neutralization. And I don't

(24:11):
know who the right matchup is to get him out
of that instinct. I don't know exactly what that would be.
So you know, I think an incremental improvement or an
incremental adjustment to his next dance partner is probably the
right idea. But PC this is the problem. Like you know,
you bring in Pitbull and you can start thinking of like, oh,
I got all these matchups in my head that'd be great,

(24:34):
or conversely, you just mentioned they might bring in Pico, right,
all all these matchups in my head, I mean I
could think of a thousand matchups that'd be like that
one's good, that one's good, and not just a forty
five fifty five potentially as well. Sure, But with Murphy
it's like does he deserve a quality guy? Yeah? He
deserves a quality opponent. He's a quality opponent who just

(24:54):
scored a very quality win. But can I think of
a thousand different matchups that I would want to see
him in. No, I think I'd be I think I'd
be lying if I said.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, he doesn't deserve another main event. I mean, that's
a big part of this. He got his close up opportunity,
he survived in Evans, but that will cost him in
the end. I just wonder, you know, you made a
broader statement off the top of this segment that there
are a lot of fighters these days who are fighting
a quote unquote boring style to the fans who are
tuning in, putting their bets down, and they just just bleed, baby, right,

(25:25):
just bleed, Haney. Do you think there will ever be
a correction or adjustment to the rules. I guess I
want to say, similar to the NBA, where in the
early two thousands, the lockdown of defense was bringing scoring
down so much that the NBA responded by opening up
the lane for the removing the handcheck, putting you know,
defensive three seconds into it and look at the wide

(25:47):
open offensive game we have now. Do you ever see
any type of correction attempt by the UFC to counteract this,
or is it cyclical in terms of who's on top
and what styles of fighting are most preferred.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
I don't. I I am a little bit more pessimistic
about this now When I say that BC, what I
mean is I agree with the broader way which you
framed it, which is some of this just will be cyclical.
I think that is true. At the same time, I
don't think it's like the NBA, dude. I mean, you know,
basketball to a degree, to a degree BC has been

(26:21):
solved right where you know, the teams just kind of
know that, you know, shooting as many threes as possible
is kind of the idea, and there's various ways to
set that up. And if you have to go to
the post, there's various ways to set that up. But
you know, they kind of all play a similar way
of basketball. Like there's not a lot of team identity
a whole lot anymore. There's some of that, but you know,

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you get the idea relative to you know, the triangle
offense and how like unique that was to the players
who implemented that under Phil Jackson. So that's kind of
I don't think we're there, but I guess the point
I'm trying to make is you you're getting just a
lot of these athletes who are very good at extending
the life of a fight and not getting close to
the finish, but never letting their opponent really get all

(27:03):
that close to them in terms of their chances of victory.
But the bigger issue is not that BC. The bigger
issue to me is, I mean, consider right, I might
I might have this wrong Long Island. Look, are you
an American football fan? Are you a Jets or a
Giants guy?

Speaker 3 (27:19):
I side with the Jets, But I truly don't really
care about I'm just gonna be honest.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
He's cockey, gambling and bongs.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, I mean he's an MMA fans, like do you
like other sports? Like?

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Not really?

Speaker 1 (27:31):
You know that's an MMA fans answer. But my understanding
is they moved the kickoff to the thirty five yard
line for next season. BC. They've been playing with that
for years. They moved it, I think twenty five to
thirty now thirty to thirty five, and you know, they've
changed how you where you could start and everything. But
point I'm trying to make is the NFL the way
in which it is organized allows them to more nimbly

(27:53):
make adjustments to rules or tweaks that they feel like
are important to preserve the integrity of the product, particularly
as they get new information about player safety, uh, team tactics,
you know, will there be a tush push going forward
all kinds of stuff. But they have the ability to
kind of address this well do You're talking fifty different
state athletic commissions, and yeah, you could fix New Jersey, California, Nevada, Texas,

(28:17):
and Florida, and that would be a lot of it,
but that still would take you when you go back
to Arizona. You're fucked. You know, international organization or territories,
you're messed up. This this this ability to define what
the rules are. They've vested that power into these vast
bulkanized world of government agencies. That's a lot of work
to get that fixed, even if you can do it

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at all, No, I guess I don't have a lot
of faith in that.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
I agree with you, and I think it also could
really if you go too far and trying to do that.
I mean you could you could do soft changes of
having referees stand them up even faster than before. But
I think you're you're gonna mess with it in a
lot of ways. And I didn't know if you said
tush push in light of that viral Terrence Howard clip going.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Around Luke, No, are you not what the toush pushes?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I am, I'm just also aware of comedy. Sorry, sir,
I'll continue, Hey look to close on this topic. What
did this performance say about forty year old Josh Emmett.
He had the five round stamina. He tried hard, he
got dropped to a knee and round five when he
was doing the point down. He seemed frustrated at Murphy's elusiveness.
Is he could he have one more run? Like there

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is this sort of gatekeeper role moving forward.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
He didn't look physically shocked. To me, I don't know
how you felt about it. He looked like physically fine.
But it's like, BC, you brought it up on Friday.
He doesn't game plan. That was one problem that looks like,
are just you know? I mean, how are you gonna
beat the best guys in the world without a game plan?
I honestly don't know. I really don't know the answer
to that. And the second part is BC, he doesn't faint.

(29:45):
He doesn't faint hardly at all. He was just trying
to like intercept Murphy or catch him with like timing
or something, which you know, fine, some of that is okay,
you know you can, you can get away with it,
but like, look at the results. Look at the result.
It's like, dude, like, I don't know how many times
you know, what makes the best fighter?

Speaker 2 (30:06):
What?

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Like it's a it's a big question. But look steroids, steroids.
You know, if you ask Craig Jones, autism would probably
play a role as well.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Okay, okay, okay, oh.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
No, I'm just doing a Craig Jones a bit. But
I'm just someone just like lost side of comedy there,
all right.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Well you led me there with your with your Noddy block.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
I've never even heard of the thing you're mentioning, so
I don't even know what that is.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
But but in all seriousness, it can be a combination
of athleticism, the right mindset, a certain degree of hunger
and tolerance and chin and like all these factors that
that that that go into it. And I don't know.
I think in the case of Josh Emmett, he's still
got a lot of the physical tools and I don't

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think he's a dumb guy by any stretch of the imagination,
and we know if I'm talking to him, he's certainly
quite driven. But if you're not accepting of the reality
that that pre fight planning, strategy and best practices around
striking implementation all show you, you're just handicapping yourself. You're handicapped.

(31:08):
You know I'm gonna play I'm gonna play baseball with
one hand behind my back. All right, Well might you
might still be a good player, but you're not probably
gonna be winning the home run derby doing that, you
know what I mean. So this is just where we are.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I mean, but credit to Murphy for the takedown defense,
the well timed kicks that constantly caught Emmett when he
was stepping forward.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
It was a work is good too, some of those.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Outward and tangibles. Murphy's brilliant at It's just not overly
exciting to everybody. But speaking of not overly exciting, luke
let's transition into topic number two, and this was your
ufc Apex undercard, where yes, there were for a few
bright spots that I do hope we mentioned, but it's
hard to avoid this one thing. Did you guys smell
what Torres Finny was cooking? Look After being forced to

(31:51):
earn a spot on the UFC roster with an unprecedented
three appearances on the Dana White Contender Series, Torres Finnis
decision win over Robert Valentin was incessantly booed and mocked
as Finny would go on to land just four significant
strikes over fifteen minutes of largely dominant grappling control. Was

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world famous boxing referee Tony Weeks, who was a judge
and scored it. An outlier card of thirty to twenty
seven for Valentine justified, in your eyes, a massive troll job.
What do you stand on that? After Finny produced, let's
say it, one of the worst UFC debuts in modern history.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Dude, that scorecard from Tony Weeks is the greatest. It's
the greatest thing that's happened at the Apex maybe ever,
maybe ever. Look at that car Tony Weeks showed up
and was like, I'm not playing ball with this bullshit
even a little bit. Go fuck yourself. That was a

(32:53):
waste of everybody's time. You don't belong here. I didn't
need to be here. Eat shit. To the world is
what he basically said. I fucking love this from Tony Weeks.
By the way, they called him a boxing judge. He's
been well, I don't know if he's reffed in the MMA.
He certainly reffed a lot of boxing two, but he's
done a lot of judging in MMA for years.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Like this is not multiple decades. They tried to act
on the broadcast like they even ripped him. They were like, well,
that's what you get when a boxing guy judges a
wrestling match. It's like, dude, that guy's been there forever.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Also, if we're just having wrestling matches, to stop calling
it MMA. I mean, what the way you know I
don't need a boxing judge at a wrestling match. You're right,
but I didn't sign up to watch a wrestling match.
I signed up to watch an MMA fight. Tony Weeks
had the right idea. One more time about these stats.
Torres Finney landed zero of one attempted significant strike in
round one and landed zero of one attempted significant strike

(33:47):
in round three. You could argue there were seven strikes
total that he landed not none of them is significant.
He did get five takedowns in the first we see.
You could argue that some of the takedowns were slams
and that that counts because they do count the takedown
itself is like a hard takedown. They'll count that as
like not not exactly a strike, but that you know,

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it contributes to the damage quotient that they're trying to evaluate.
You know. But I just want to say, first, Tony
Weeks giving this a thirty twenty seven, whether he scored
it that way or whether it was a protest vote,
to me is absolutely immaterial. It's the most brilliant response
possible to the way in which that fight went. Number one,

(34:29):
number two. Look, Torres Finny seems to be a nice guy,
but I don't understand what the case is for signing him.
And you're not signing guys like Saladin Parnass or r
Tim Bakitov, especially if you know, we know that those
guys weren't asking necessarily for like the world in terms
of money, but something you know, a little bit greater

(34:51):
than what they could offer at the Contender series. And listen,
my understanding is sometimes the matchmakers do want to sign
a guy and you know management doesn't want or you know,
the promotion that those guys come from play like fucking
games with their contracts, and UC just says that I
don't want to play with those. We're just gonna keep
what we get. So it's it can be a lot
of reasons why guys don't get signed beyond just hey,

(35:12):
we don't want to pay them, blah blah blah. So
I can understand it's a mixed it's a mixed situation,
but BC, you're getting what you pay for. If you're
if you're not gonna pay top dollar for top guys,
then you're gonna get situations like this where guys who
are clearly not ready for this level and don't have
an even remotely approximating the kind of well rounded skill

(35:35):
set or even like a threatening skill set that they
need to have in order to compete. This is what
you're gonna get. We talked about it on Friday. You know,
when you when you're landing ten takedowns per fifteen minutes,
it means you can't hold somebody down. Sure enough, five
of eight takedowns in round one, one of and three.
He was able to hold it down a little bit
in that one, but then two of six in in

(35:56):
uh in in around eight eight takedowns. Totally, He's only
eight takedowns in a fight in a fifteen minute fight. Dude,
what the fuck are we doing here? That's nearly three
year round. There has to be development on wrapping the
legs and holding them their risk rides Nelson's turks. Dude,
look at Sean Brady. Sean Brady would get Leon down, bitch,
You're staying down for the rest of that round, if

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you even survive the round. Look at the difference in ability,
Look at the difference and skill. One guy is elite
and one guy just got this opportunity because I don't know,
the Internet kind of wanted to boost him to this position.
And I'm sorry to say this again, Torris Finny seems
like a good guy and it seemed like afterwards he
understood this performance didn't exactly blow away the world. But
if we're just observing this from afar, what is the

(36:39):
fucking argument for signing a guy who's at this level
versus some of these international prospects that we've seen, except
that one comes at a much more discounted rate.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, what you pay for, But I do believe that,
like they gave him three chances on the DWCS, and
he did get more exciting with each opportunity, for whatever
that means. I obviously would feel bad for someone like
Brendan Locknane watching this and going what the f right?
Or even Mohammed Makayev, although I know that there's other
factors that led to him being released. But luke back
to the scoring for a second. I did chuckle at

(37:14):
the Tony Weeks one. I liked the statement that it
potentially sent. I did see though, way more like really
angry mma fans that I thought, basically being like this
man should never judge again. Now, for the record, I
think you have to give Valentin round three because he
came out angry, talking trash, landing big strikes before he
ended up on his back like the rest of those rounds.

(37:36):
Is there an argument here for two to one Valentine
on the first two rounds in your eyes or no?
Because I did score it two to one for Finny
giving him rounds one and two, even though it was
a very frustrating lack of entertaining style. If there's no
striking on either side and he completely controls a guy
and frustrates him and put him on his back. Don't
you under the law have to give it to him?

Speaker 1 (37:57):
No? Why do you have to give it to So
how did you score it? I don't know if either
guy belongs in UFC. That's how I scored it. That's
one of those fights where I looked at it and
I was like, you're getting fucked like weird ass situations
like this because you have two opponents who are probably
not good enough for this level now Valentine or Valentine's

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argument a little stronger. Obviously, I don't know if it's
entirely fair to him, but certainly in the case of Finny,
I was like, what are we doing here? I mean
I did go back and rewatch. It was hard to
stomach fifteen minutes of this, but we rewatched some of
the takedowns in all of the rounds to see exactly
how many of them were slams. Round two I think
is probably the strongest Finny round because of the ability

(38:42):
to keep him down off just the one takedown. He
did land some strikes in that one. Of note, there
were some slams in the first one, but they didn't
seem to have a very big material effect. The problem
that you have and I want to make sure I'm
saying this without yeah, the problem. You have one reversal
that they credited Valentine with in round two, which was nice.
He was able to do that. But you'll notice he

(39:03):
doesn't have any sub attempts, and I know he's landed
some strikes throughout six in round one. Valentine did three
in round two and then fourteen in round three. That
was obviously the clearest of them. But it wasn't like
he was scoring a ton of damage either, you know.
So this is one I mean, this is what I
mean about Tony Weeks's scorecard. It's like, to me, I

(39:24):
think thirty twenty seven Finny would have been like absolutely bizarre.
I don't think you could have done that. But anything
from twenty nine to twenty eight Finny, all the way
over to thirty twenty seven Valentine would have been okay
by me, to be perfectly honest, because I can understand
how you could arrive at those positions. Also, I note

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Ben Cardilicho, I sort of considered to be the gold
standard in judging. He had at twenty nine twenty eight
for Finny. You know, I don't know why he scored
it that way without a chance to speak to him.
It's hard to know, but that is a very very
very good judge. But Tony Weeks to me looking at
this what it obviously is, which is a gigantic waste
of everyone's time and somebody who's got one one dimension

(40:08):
of a skill set just trying to ride that out
for fifteen minutes and then hoping he gets blessed with
the decision. This was a gigantic waste of everyone's time,
including Valentines.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Well, I get that. The story here is that Finny
was not entertaining and might not belong in the UFC,
but and not necessarily people caring about one round the
other way was it judged right or wrong? Outside of
the outrage of what Weeks did? But I do go
back to the ABC definition the Association of Boxing Commissions
and by Effect MMA. Here's the actual fine print. A
judge shall base of fighters impact their opponents significantly in

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the round, even though they may not a dominantated the action.
Impact includes visible evidence such as swelling and lacerations, which
didn't happen here, but impact shall also be assessed when
a fighter's actions using striking or grappling lead to a
diminishing of their opponent's energy, confidence, abilities, and spirit.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
So it didn't do it didn't do any of that.
It didn't do a single bit of that.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
So long island, Luke, how did you score?

Speaker 6 (41:08):
You?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
You're into this on a betting side aggressively. So was
was two to one Finny, even if we hated it,
the right scorecard in your eyes? Or how do you
weigh in on that?

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (41:19):
So I had terres Finny in a parlay, so I
was like rooting for him. I thought he clearly won
rounds one and two. Gaff was making me sweat because
Gaff's like Gaff was going the Tony Weeks route. He
was like, Dude, I don't know, man, I think there's
a world Valentine's winning these rounds. I think two one
is the right scorecard you give Valentine. Round three. You
gotta give Phinny rounds. He had what, Luke, five takedowns
in round one?

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I mean, yeah, five and round one. That's got to
be enough to win the round in my book.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah, if he's not getting lit up, Luke, it is
it really is? I do supprise.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
I mean I'm not going to go to the mat
over it again. I think I consider Tony Weeks's card
not to be like the most glorious card because it
had the best fealty to the rules, but just as
a kind of card that was like a you know,
like a fuck you to this whole thing, which is
really how everybody felt when it was over. That's why
I mostly admire it. There is an interesting debate over

(42:07):
the scoring to a degree, but it's more like the
protest of it. That's where I'm at.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
No, and I like that it was out there so
it warns people that this will not be fully tolerated
and expect and accepted. It reminds me of the tail
end of Geirmo riggandau is the Great Cuban boxer's career Luke,
when he's dodging punches left and right but not making
you pay. There are a lot of judges that would
score fights against him in that case, even though it
kind of looked like he outclashed the guy. I get it.

(42:32):
You gotta have offense with that. Let's hear it from
Torres Finney, who definitely came out and agreed with everybody
that it was not his best performance and in his eyes,
here is the reason why The.

Speaker 7 (42:43):
Biggest critique coming out of this fight is he did
not throw ground and pound.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Was there a reason for that?

Speaker 6 (42:50):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (42:50):
No, the plant was to throw ground and pound. Maybe
I was in this fight. I was too much positioned
over obviously spiking. You know, usually you hear the position
over some but I was too much position and not
looking for openings. And there was sometimes openings that I
had I didn't take advantage of. And I don't know
what it was that was holding me back at a

(43:10):
mental block confidence son, but man, that was so much
left to be desired and there for myself, I did
not like I would say, it's a weird performer. That
was a dud, you know, in my undist opinion. You know,
it happens. You know, I ain't gonna lie. I feel great.
What this is the best I felt going into a fight,
you know, like Jess was a dud, and heck, I

(43:32):
felt way worse than this going into a fight. And
I've had an incredible performance and so you know, it
just it just to night sometimes and uh, tonight was
that one of those type of nights. You know, like
I said, came out with the victory. Yeah, that's the
main thing, but just just gotta grow, you know, I've
only been look.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
It would go on from there, but you get the
point of it. I like his reaction, but I gotta
ask you the hard question. If we all kind of
agree he's not fit for prime time, would it be
awful to a caught him or b set a precedent
that fighters that aren't ready but you don't necessarily want
them to go away? Could he go back down to
the data Could he get demoted to the data white

(44:12):
Contender series for a fourth time? Like, what do you
do right now? If you're the UFC where he became
a big headline out of this event.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I kind of just feel like if you have to
go to the Contender series three times, it kind of
tells you you're not ready. I mean, the economics of
the regional scene is a lot at what is at
play here where you know, whatever the complaints about UFC
fighter pay, it's obviously going to be significantly greater than
what your typical regional promotion can pay. I mean, obviously
there's some exceptions in places like continental Europe or whatever,

(44:43):
but you know, in general, especially in the American side,
you're just gonna make a lot more money in UFC.
So these guys have a strong incentive, they think, to
get up there and listen, it's I don't have the
answers for them, and I know it's not very fair,
and I don't know what to say. But what I
do know, after watching this for you know, almost my
entire adult life and then some you have to have

(45:05):
requisite skills to win and do damage and make a
name for yourself. Otherwise all of this is going to backfire.
You're going to go there when you're not ready, you're
gonna underperformed, and then you're gonna find yourself in exile
with not much of a path to return, and even
if you do, it could be a lot longer before
you ever find yourself back there. It doesn't make sense
to rush this. And it just feels to me like,

(45:28):
you know, I don't know exactly his life circumstances or
exactly why he tried to push for a Contender series
when he did. You know, we know the story. These
guys get the call up and all of a sudden,
they just want to head. They want to they want
to dive right into it. And my response is this
is a mistake. This is absolutely a gigantic mistake that
can only backfire long term unless he's all of a

(45:50):
sudden able to make vast leaps in his technical ability.
Is you know, you're asking what the UFC should do.
I mean, at this point, I think you can give
him another fight, you know, put out on the prelimb somewhere,
and if that goes poorly, you know that. I think
they have a different conversation to make. I wouldn't cut
him off of this. I think that's a little punitive,
but you know, it's not about what you do about

(46:10):
this fight. It's what you do about a talent pipeline
where guys who are clearly green, clearly uncon incontestably green,
getting fast tracked to main cards. I know, on the APEX,
but UFC main cards when they simply don't have enough
ability to compete properly at this level. It's a waste
of their time, the opponent's time, and in the consumer's

(46:32):
time and frankly the UFC's time too. To me, it's
a bigger issue than just what do you do with
Torres Finny Torres Finny spotlights a broader issue, agreed.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Completely Like some Fight Night cards, you know, I thought
they suck some of the hardcore fans or the betters
like Long Island Lucer, are like, no, it's good. This
one felt like it wasn't good top to bottom. And
I think it might be a reflection of the Dana
White Contender series factory to what you're saying, where people
aren't ready, they're coming in on low salary. He purposely.
I mean, look, you know, I'm really one of the

(47:02):
reasons why I'm so excited about three fourteen on Saturday,
because there's twenty three fighters on the card and fifteen
of them have Wikipedia pages. I'm like, yes, this is
a win where this is a loaded card. This is
what it should be. But Luke to speak to this
card in totality, I do want to show you a
tweet that the great Kauposa Gribaca Hitman put out there.
According to his research, Saturday's card was the fourth consecutive

(47:26):
UFC event where no fight of the night was given,
and that's the first time it happened since twenty fifteen.
And by the way, twenty fifteen came during a great era,
so that was probably an anomalous, like stretch, is this
current stretch anomalist if that's even a word, or is
this also speaking to the larger issues right now?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Too small of a sample size to say it could
be what we're spotlighting is contributing. I don't know if
you feel differently. I'm a little bit. I'm always a
little bit like when I say broader trends, I mean
like things that are like somewhat years in the making.
Four fights being like this is certainly catches your eye

(48:06):
and could be, could be, but I'm a little bit
hesitant to ascribe a significant amount of meaning to it
at the moment.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Well, look, if Dana White isn't showing up and caring
about these cards, should fight fans. Let's see where Dana
was over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
What's up, everybody.

Speaker 8 (48:21):
So I played in the baccara tournament at the MGM Mansions.
I lost.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
I'm out.

Speaker 8 (48:29):
I'm a loser, but you're not. So this is what
they gave us in the invitations. That's a thousand dollars
bill from like nineteen thirty four, and this is an.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Ounce and a half of gold.

Speaker 8 (48:42):
So two of you will have the opportunity to win this.
I haven't figured out how I'm gonna do it yet,
but stay.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Tuned, so you know, the two of you he's talking
about are not the fighters. And look, I'm not saying
I'm not sitting here saying Dana White can't have a
night off, but it is telling about a lot of things.
When Dana White entered a ten million dollar Baker attorney
on Saturday and we can't get Jones aspinall and we
got twelve and twelve guys stinking it out in the

(49:10):
in the cage. I don't know if that's related, but
it's it's part of the larger People.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Will always say, oh, I Dana White can spend his
own money, which of course is true. And also like,
you know, if Dana White's gonna take a night off,
taking a night off on this kind of a card
is probably like, you know, you'd rather be off this
night than let's say, a UC three fourteen, Right. But
at the same time, it's like, well, where do you
think that money comes from? You know what I mean? Like, Oh,

(49:34):
he can spend his money how he wants, right, but
how did he generate that? You know what I mean?
Like it's because again I can't get I mean, I'm
just not going to do it.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I get into give me the good, give me something
good from Saturday's undercard.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Okay, yes, well there was to be clear, there definitely
was for me. First of all, Odie Osborne had a
nice third round stoppage over Luis Gurule, which I thought
he had fast hands, his hands will can sharp the
whole fight and the way he kind of slowly found
his opportunity there was I think it was what that
upper the upper cut, No, was a left hook that

(50:07):
he landed and then he polished him off. That was
pretty sick. Reese McKee going in there and just absolutely
giving Daniel Frunza the business beating his ass, had him
basically stopped. I thought, to me, the guy that looked
the most interesting, by the way, the short noticed opponent
from Sadi Baldiev, you know, giving up an enormous amount

(50:30):
of weight, I thought, still performed pretty ably, But that's
not it. The guy who to me looked the most
skillful on this card, skillful in the broadest way in
which I can say it. And I don't know how
you can even disagree with this, Victor Henry. Victor Henry
is a Josh Barnett train fighter. Obviously that's gonna give

(50:50):
him some pedigree right there. And he's had some tough
breaks in the octagon, including with being the victim of
fouls and a whole bunch of other stuff. But dude,
he is a very skilled fighter. He is skilled on
the ground in transition on the feet. I thought he
looked awesome. He nearly put Pedro Falcau away a few times,
came very close. His right hand could not miss in

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that fight. It was incredible. He to me, stood out
far and away the best fighter on that car at
least the best performance I think in addition amazing.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yeah, I also, I mean, look, the stakes are lower
on the first fight of the night, but Talita Allen
Carr absolutely dominated Vanessa Demopolis over three rounds and really
just put her on her back, which is, you know,
a place where Demopolis normally shines with that counter grappling
and those you know, she's rallied to a lot of
submission wins in her career. She got absolutely suffocated in

(51:41):
that fight by that grappling and there was heavy ground
upound mixt and so shout out there, Long Island, Luke.
Do you want to echo any of the matchups we
talked about her, any big bets that you pulled off
this weekend?

Speaker 3 (51:51):
I just want to bring up what I think should
have been the fight of the night, Courtevius Ramis versus
Chang Ho lead. That fight was bonkers. It was only
like eight minutes long, but it was crazy. Dude, in
like a thirty second spin, Lee had full mount on Courtavius.
Then ten seconds later, Courtavius is on the back with
both hooks, and then ten seconds later Lee is on
the back with a fucking body triangle. It was just

(52:12):
crazy scrambles, all action. Courtevious' nickname is are you not Entertained?
And I got to say I was freaking entertained that
entire time.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
That was great.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Me, to me, that fight was a little sloppy, which
is why I didn't put it in there. But I
can agree that there was plenty of action, plenty of
momentum switching. It's not a bad choice at all. Certainly.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah, Cortavius did misweight by a lot, but he did
come in and lose entertaining.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
By the way, and Joe Joe Martinez announced it, and
when he was announcing the weights, he was like and
coming in over the bansamweight limit at one thirty nine
point five, I was like, Wow.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
The best, the best announced, the best in cage announcer
in mixed martial arts today.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that. I've
always thought Joseph's WEC days was amazing.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah. I've worked on the same boxing cards with him
as a gentleman, He's a great guy. All right, let's
go to topic number three. This should get you fired up.
Why because UFC three fourteen hits Miami this Saturday. It's loaded.
In fact, before I even tee up a question in, Luke,
let's take another look at the main card that we're
going to see there, of course, headlined by an interim
featherweight title about in the main event pairing Alexander Volkanowski

(53:14):
and Diego Lopez, but you can see up and down
all bangers. So, Luke, we have a lot of potential
storylines to work with. Obviously, on Wednesday we're gonna take
a few shots of Quervo and get into it big time.
But from the title return of the thirty six year
old VULC to Patricio Pitpull's debut Patty pimblet step up,
which storyline of this very exciting card on Saturday has

(53:37):
you the most jacked up, focused and excited.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
For man, there's I mean, obviously that main event is tremendous,
and I know you've got a different answer, so I
don't want to step on it. And we kind of
talked about this ahead of time, but I think you
know where my head is at in all of this
is two things I would say BC. Let me say
the first one that I want to add the second
very quickly. First thing I'm gonna say is I think
the introduction to the UFC of Patricio pit Bull. There

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are ways in which this goes where it's a big bust.
We have to acknowledge that he can go in there
against Yeah, you're Rodriguez on this main card, get flat
lined or beat up or just kind of made to
look lesser than and fans are going to go, oh,
that's the best fighter in bellatre history. He got his
ass whooped by Yeah Rodriguez, who's a good fighter, but
you know has already lost to Vulk and you know

(54:26):
lost to Max and you know, you name it, like,
has proven to be good, but not the best in
this division, certainly not by a long shot. That is
a real risk that they run, which, by the way,
to me makes it exciting and as we've indicated, this
is not prime Pitbull. This is a thirty seven year
old pit Bull. So even if you were to lose,
you're not beating the best version of that this guy's
ever been, and you have to kind of acknowledge that. However,

(54:48):
b See, However, you know you mentioned over the weekend
that there was at least some rumors of Aaron Pico
being added to this division. Now we know for a
fact obviously that Pitbull is here. And if pit Bull
can get a win at age thirty seven over a
top five guy, I mean, understand what's happening here. Who
would be in front of him in the rankings? B
See Movsar is sitting at four. But if you're the

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best fighter in Belitar history and you come over and
you knuckle Yai Rodriguez into the canvas, you're gonna leap him.
After that's Diego. Diego's already in the main event. Max
Max is up at fifty five, and then number one
is Vulkan, who's also in the main event. The point
I'm trying to make is, with the right kind of performance,
the best fighter in Beltar history is knocking on the

(55:30):
door of a title shot. And he's doing it again.
If he gets to that place against a known, credible
action fighter of an unimpeachable degree. I mean, that is
just so freaking awesome for all the people like me
who watched the possibility of Fador getting signed to the
UFC and then it passing, and then it passing, and

(55:51):
then it passing, and then it just completely passed. You know,
it's kind of like a thing where you understand, but
it's lamentable. I watched Fador in Pride and to see
that guy never get an opportunity in the UFC, and
I know that the negotiations fell through whatever, but you know, never, yeah, vedummy,
vedummy messed it up, which, by the way, is kind
of funny. Scott Coker co signed on that, so like,

(56:11):
so apparently Dana and Scott Coker don't like Vadima whatever
his last name was, dummy Finkelstein. That's it. But what
do I want to make with Pitpull is to get
a guy who's basically maybe Fador is the best fighter
in MMA history who never fought in the UFC, but
Patricio is right on his heels and now we get
to see that in action, and the stakes are such

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that it's kind of like a dark horse candidate for
a title shot. And BC let me add my second point,
which is I don't know if Pico was going to
be added, but if he is, it only makes this
point stronger, which is I'm so mad at Iliga Taporia
for leaving this division. I am so bitter about it

(56:52):
because if he was still here, not only would you
be getting some epic rematches, but look at all of
the other potent, amazing fights that could could be available
at this unique moment in time for all the belly
aching that we do about two h five or heavyweight
or you know, you name it, dude, with Ilia at

(57:12):
the top, adding Pitbull as a you know and as
still as a viable contender, and adding Aaron Pico, Dude,
you're talking about a red hot division in that way,
and it's still pretty great. It's still pretty hot, but
I'm bitter about it. I'm bitter about it.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I mean, look, Elia against all those killers is fun.
But do you realize what has lately been rumored on
Twitter for the International Fight Week main event come come
early July or end of June, whenever the date is.
It's Ilia versus Islam for the lightweight title one versus
two pound for pound in the world. So look that
fight trumps all these, Okay, and you know that at
the end of the day, y, but.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Elia is apparently waiting for the results of three point
fifteen and if JDM wins, he's just gonna jump to
go fight JDM. He's not gonna fight. So now what
are you gonna do for all of that?

Speaker 2 (57:59):
They're gonna tell him you have to fight Ilia first,
and they're going to pay him to make him do it.
I'm I'm starting to get confident we will see that.
I don't know about Jones aspinall, but if I get
Ilia Islam, I will have a phoner from here to Hanover,
Iowa and Ohio. And I think you know that, Luke, Okay,
we do have some sound and I echo what you're
saying about pipol. I think he's got an opportunity, especially
since he said I'll fight at forty five fifty five.

(58:21):
He even said He'll fight at seventy For the right matchup,
he has an opportunity to do the Michael Chandler plan.
Is he passed his peak, Yes, but can he potentially
lose big all action fights or sneak a win in there.
He might be able to do the Chandler thing. We'll
find out. But here's Pipple speaking in English giving us
a breakdown of what he expects now that he's inside
the octagon.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Oh, it's it's a great time to me, like, I'm
all this here, wait for this moment.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Then I feel that.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
Ah, pray to God, then say texts because here's uh
top five Montena and it's put been a great question
in that division, the most.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Complete and Violet Father, Red Planet.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
It's all good. He's a very spectful guy. He's a
very late back guy.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
You know, we're only going to show.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Violence when we get in the octagon.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
It's good. It's a good moment, Joe. I put my
feet on die take that belt. It depends on my performance.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
I really don't know.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
But I'll fight against him like Donasad would be that
great question. He's a top five and here a great
victor to me, and I believe that it will be
good for you know, maybe can fight for the title.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Let me let me posit a scenario for you here.
Let's say, even though Diego Lopez is an underdog, I
believe in the main event let's say he wins and
becomes the outright champion. There could we see Lopez Pitpole
at UFC notch and Wada Wihara later this year?

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Well a lot of lahara you might be able to
see that. Yes, And.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Well, I mean it's not like, yeah, years at the
top of his game, right, he's lost two of his
last three. It'd be interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah, no, No, I mean again, it's it's one of
those situations where the UFC is kind of, you know,
like we're kind of rolling the dice there and kind
of seeing what comes up, and they're gonna make a
play based on all these options. But that's the point
I'm trying to make, Like, dude, forty five is so
freaking hot. It's so good even with like, you know,
you got Briano ticket still sitting at six. I don't
think he really deserves to be sitting at six, but
you know, he's gonna be fun for the right kind

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of matchup, depending on how things go. So, you know, dude,
you could get you could get ya Eir versus Lopez
by the way, for that note check card, you could
get pit Bull versus I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Know, Volk Vulk. You know what I mean like, there's just.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
A bunch of really fun possibilities. I am concerned like
everybody else at thirty seven. I you know, I have
some managed expectations, but I'm telling you Mma is funny
and crazy and Pitbull coming over here and making a
name for himself at three fourteen is only good for
the rest of us.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
All you can. Let's show this face off video from
that kickoff press conference. They did size difference seem big,
but I guess you know Pipple is always the shorter
guy against everybody. What's making this this face off here?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah, I mean he's a he's I don't make much
of it. I you know, you know he's gonna have
the height and reach disadvantage. That's just everything he always does.
You know. I remember, for folks who haven't seen it
or don't remember, I remember when he moved moved up
to fifty five and basically one punched Michael Chandler. I
mean it's a little more than that, but not much more.
You know, his power carries, make no mistake, it's just

(01:01:26):
a question to be seen. We'll talk about this on Wednesday.
Can he get close enough quite literally physically too? Ya
ear to make this work, and I guess we're gonna
find out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Well, look, got you could have We could have each
gone a few different ways. It's because this card is
so good in terms of what we're focused on. For me,
it's thirty year old Patty Pumblet. It's not or ever
time in a lot of ways. Right, It's time for
him to step up. He's he could given the veterans
in this division, and he's getting one that's after market
of course in Chandler, although he's exciting and maybe a
little bit dirty depending on your opinion. But the whole

(01:01:55):
point here is that this is Patty's close up moment.
Let's see if he can make that leap. It's one
thing to beat an old ass Tony Ferguson and an
old ass King Green. Well, now you gotta beat an
old ass Michael Chandler. But we know the stakes, we
know the drought and star power. This is a big
opportunity for Patty to make a massive statement or have

(01:02:15):
it all fall apart spectacularly. But Luke, check out the shape.
We know Patty gets big between fights. Check out those
abs in the shape that he's coming in. It seems
like no stones are left unturned here, dude, I am
so fired up for this matchup. Are you as confident
as I am? Not that Patty is necessarily the real deal,

(01:02:37):
but that what we saw in the last fight against
King Green. He's turning a corner, he's adding as he goes.
He might end up in a title fight. Luke, it
might happen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I have been down on Patty and I still have
some concerns about exactly how good he is. But like
he's not only does he look chiseled, b See, he
looks big at fifty five. Now he was kind of
a little bit scrawnier. He's kind of grown into his
size a little bit. And do I think that Chandler's
overhand right could send Patty's chin into orbit? Of course

(01:03:08):
I do. But at the same time, Chandler fights recklessly
and Patty has good control from the back, And you've
seen Chandler submitted that way and multiple guys have gotten
his back before. Like, there's a lot of ways this
goes real bad for Chandler, who was waiting on that
McGregor fi which just ain't never coming. I fucking love

(01:03:29):
this dou This car's this car rules it does I know?
I hated starting the show being all negative about that
fucking Fight Night card because I'm sorry, there isn't really
no other way to talk about it, but negatively for
the most part anyway. But this be fourteen card has
so much going for it. I can't wait for Wednesdays
sit down with Jed, which I call what I'm saying
because he is terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Long Island look reminded us of the DraftKings. Odds for
that main event, by the way, minus one p thirty
for Volkanowski plus one ten for the younger Lopez, so
that's gonna be fantastic. You have one last bit of sound.
I know everybody when we say the name Michael Chandler
follows it up with the word dirty. But Luke, it
is about time for his arrival, and here's Mike Keck

(01:04:09):
taking Chandler to task about that dirtiness.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
How do you react to those comments?

Speaker 7 (01:04:15):
And also just this notion that, hey, that Michael Chandler guy,
he cheats in his fights. Yeah, I mean the narrative
is tough, man. People don't really really know me, Like,
unless you're in my inner circle, you don't know who
I truly am outside of in front of the camera.
People have their sneaky suspicions that I'm some you know,
I play nice in front of the camera and I'm

(01:04:36):
a bad guy behind the camera. You're always going to
have those those accusations, right, But I know who I am,
and I know who I am at my core, I'm
a guy who tries to do things right, tries to
treat people right, do things with honor and respect. So
the sheeting narrative is a little tough for me, but
also it's all part of the court of public opinion. Man,

(01:04:57):
did I grab dustin Poorie's mouthpiece?

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:04:59):
I did, because I thought it was his chin. I've
already I've already addressed that one. Things happen in a fight.
Are you gonna reach over and grab the cage? Are
you gonna, you know, get your fingers in the glove? Yeah,
those things are going to happen in a fight. In
the last fight, Charles Olivera dug his chin so deep
into my eye socket that I thought I was gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Go blind, which is illegal.

Speaker 7 (01:05:18):
It's an eyegage, right. He was grabbing my gloves when
he was trying to joke me like there were there
was These things happen when you're inside of the cage.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
I would never say that Charles Olivera is a cheater.

Speaker 7 (01:05:27):
His body is reacting and doing things without his brain's permission.
Right you're in fight or flight, things happen, So it's
it's a tough narrative. With that being said, I also
respect Patty for not making a big deal out of it.
I mean, I think it's a sign of weakness when
you start talking about a guy cheating.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Well, look, there is unfortunately a long there's a long history.
People are playing old early bellator clips of him grabbing
the fence to get up. I mean, it's kind of
part of his game.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Maybe the large I don't I don't want to hear shit.
The referees don't enforce it. Why the fuck would.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
You not do it?

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
No, you're an idiot if you don't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
I texted you, Jason Herzog when Lauren Murphy gotta put
his fingers in Josh Emmett's eye during that fight on Saturday.
He did say, look, you do that again. I'm taking
a point. So that was a step forward. But do
you think the larger narrative should be that Chandler's thirty
eight and He's lost four of his last five, with
the only win being Tony Ferguson, even though he obviously
fights super elite competition and goes for broke at all costs.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Should it be what I mean? You're asking what should
the narrative be or surrounding one about.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Chance instead of hit him being dirty? Is should the
narrative be? Have what it takes at this level?

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
I think I'll say this to the extent the fight
is won or lost is going to be decided by
those broader factors. But I'm sorry. In a world where
the referees absolutely refuse, not all of them, not all
the time, obviously, but as a general proposition, in a
world and in a sport where the referees do not
penalize fouls, why would you ever get mad at a

(01:07:01):
fighter for fouling? Oh that's dirty? No it's not. They
don't do shit about it. Play the play the rules
to your advantage. You get one shot at this every
single time you're out there. You don't get any duovers,
you know, hardly likely anyway. Make it count. They're not
going to penalize you for it. Fucking do it. I
don't care. I don't care. I don't care even a
little bit.

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(01:08:06):
So we were all set up here for Wednesday. We
are going to have a great time. But let's transition
now to the sport of the box. In topic number four,
interesting question to kind of kick it off. Has boxing's
reliance upon Riad's sisson come to an end? Or are
we watching it come to an end? You may ask
what I'm talking about. We've got a couple pieces of

(01:08:27):
business here to set this topic up, first of all
being Shaker Stevenson, the Lightweight champions response to William's Apeieda
promoter carl oscar de la Hoya, who said, after all
the shit talking, Shakuerr pulls out of as Apeida fight,
Shaker comes back with it is that what they told you?
Turkey promised me a number, and now he's going back

(01:08:47):
way back on that number that he promised and sending
his towel boys an unfortunate remark to run me the
info instead of telling me straight up what he trying
to do. Bow down to nobody, mister de la Hoya.
Now let's negotiate. And then also Shakor would say this
about the fight itself, that he's done negotiating because one thing,

(01:09:10):
he's the champ. So whether the fight gets done with
these people, meaning Turkey in RIAD season or not, I'm
stepping on dude, but the fight will be made next. So,
Luke Thomas, I want to start right here. The March
fifth announcement that Dana White and Turkey Ala Shechk are
going to form this upcoming TKO boxing lead has appeared
to supercharge everyone else in the business who's trying to

(01:09:32):
figure out where their place is moving forward, not only
our PBC and top rank rumoring or straight up planning
to work together in the future. You've got more fighters
like Shakor Tayo Fi Malpez who will show in a
second speaking out it seems against Turkey. So has the
mass exodus of boxing's reliance upon RIAD season begun or
does it appear possibly to you that Saudi Arabia has

(01:09:54):
begun tightening up the purse strings for everyone not named
TKO ahead of what we expect to be this September
TKO launch on Netflix of Bud and Canelo.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Well, I don't think we're ready to declare mass exodus yet.
I would have to see a lot of maneuvering for
that to be the case. But I do think that
there are some interesting things in place BC. Let's piece
them all together here for a second. First of all,
we'll see what happens with this May second show that's
supposed to take place in Times Square. I don't know
what the status is of it. It could be a

(01:10:26):
big hit for them, But we'll have to see how
that goes and how that's executed. That's the first thing
I'm going to say. It's a small note, but keep
it in mind. The second thing I'm gonna say is
BC this remark from by the way, I know he
said towel boys. Isn't that just a reference to like
country club people, like, you know, like an errand person,
not a turbine wearing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I don't know. I assume the worst because it's backus
combat sports, but I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Don't know how I took it to be a statement
of you're a servant, not a not a cultural but
I don't. I don't. I mean, who the fun.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
That's actually a fair possibility. But I think like this, Luke,
it is what it receives.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Right, It is what the people. It's not what you say,
it's what they hear. Okay, fair enough. The one I'm
trying to make is that to me was shocking that
he did this over the weekend, very very very surprising
that he was now creating some distance between himself and Listen.
Here's the Here is what Shaquer Stevenson is saying, and
I think it's what all these guys would basically say,

(01:11:25):
but some are more likely to say it than others, namely, yeah,
I'll do business with Saudi Arabia, i will do business
with Turkey. I'll put on a happy face, I'll show up,
I'll fight hard, I'll train hard, I'll do everything you
want me to do, and I'll play ball. And we
can even fight in Riodd. We don't have to fight
in Newark, or pick your hometown in the case of
Shirker Stevenson to be Newark, New Jersey. But if you're

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not going to pay top dollar for that, then I
don't really have any interest at all. It's not like
he has any great affinity for fighting in Riyodd. It's
not like he's got any great affinity for Turkey on
a personal level. It's not like he's got any great
affinity for the broader, potentially social or sporting project that
the Sautas are trying with their investments in sports more generally,

(01:12:11):
not just this, but of course there was the live
golf tournament over the weekend in one of President Trump's properties.
So if you don't have any attachment to that at
all other than transactionally, if you overpay for me I'll
go do this. Well, what happens when you start winding
down what that payment looks like? All of a sudden

(01:12:31):
that entire business proposition becomes a lot less attractive. I
would add something else on top of that, BC, which
is what we already know the eighteen months or even
now I guess seventeen months left on Turkey's deal with
these other promoters, Like, we know that's coming to a close,
and I feel like the closer we get, the uglier
it's going to get. That's just a personal feeling that,

(01:12:53):
you know, kind of having seen this movie before. I mean,
this is a particularly unique situation, but when promoters stop
working together, it gets a little bit uglier at the end.
And the last thing I'm gonna say too is you know,
I don't I'm trying to be as honest as I
possibly can be. I'm not trying to make an argument
for invoking some kind of political discussion here. What I
am going to say is BC, should there be a

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market downturn, and particularly on the price of oil, that
could have a pretty important cascading effect on what the
Saudis are able to spend on any of their sporting ventures,
and particularly one at boxing, which is a little bit
at the margins. And I think the question you have
to ask yourself is even independent of that, if you
if you don't even want to get into that BC,

(01:13:35):
it's why is Turkey turning the whatever the price was,
Why is he dialing it back to me? That's a
step that that to me is like, what is the
impetus behind that at this moment, because that will probably
tell you the foreshadow that probably is in fact the
foreshadowing that awaits a lot of these guys who've had

(01:13:56):
deals with him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
I mean, we all knew the money wasn't gonna last,
just like when PBC came out in twenty fifteen and
put boxing on every network and everybody was getting these
huge salaries. We knew that that was not possibly sustainable
for the long run. It was more about trying to
attract a big TV deal. We feel like we know
the motives of Turkey and Saudi Arabia coming out as
aggressively as they did, so I think all the points

(01:14:18):
you made could very well be it, just like all
the points where I'm trying to make of how many
promoters thought they were in bed with Turkey. Maybe even
for the long run only to get that announcement on
March fifth that basically said you're on the outside looking in,
even though we oddly still have this contract to work
together for a while. I do feel like Saudi Arabia

(01:14:39):
is pulling back the purse strings. Could it be situational
because Shaker Stevenson currently has such a poor representation, poor reputation.
Excuse me from a marketing standpoint. Remember he fought on
the greatest last crescendo card of all time against that
last minute Electrician and you know didn't necessarily sizzle. Is
this just Turkey making a statement against that? Don't think

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that's the case. I think it's the larger picture of Okay,
we've announced it, we've called our shot in the distance,
and look, there are people on the inside, by the way,
who believe the timing of that announcement on March fifth
was a retaliation to the rumors of the money that
Jake Paul was trying to put together and the prospect
of him getting on Netflix with a series before TKO

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could launch. So there's a lot of competing factors right here.
But it is interesting how many people are coming out
now that used to be in Turkey's back pocket are
coming out against him. Also, it's interesting that that time
Square card has been changed now to a pay per
view on his own, as has the fight card in
two weeks. I believe when Connor Bet and Chris Ubank
kick off the Ring Magazine series, that'll be a pay

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per view in the States as well on his own.
So let's show this final tweet from Shakor, which feels
to me like a grand statement here, real men stand up,
never bow down to nobody but the creator. I mean, look,
that feels to me like he's saying exactly what you said, Like, Hey,
if Turkey's gonna give me the money, that's fine. I'm
not begging, I'm not taking a knee, I'm not gonna

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hold his hand on the video. I think that's what
the rest of American boxing is doing. That's why PBC
and Top Rank are willing to publicly show now that
they're they're gonna work together. We have one other tweet
here that was deleted or I think it was an
Instagram response from Tayo Femo Lopez. The one on the
left that circled it says this is in response to
a Ring Magazine tweet of one month away the May

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second card, and Tao said, the promotion you guys been
doing on your card has been shit emoji and then Luke.
That got deleted.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
And he tagged he tagged Turkey.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
And that got deleted, and he came back and said,
May second is going to be a super stardom night
of boxing. Great job to everyone, and Hi meaning his
excellency Turkey as they like to call him, Luke. You
could also put that as Tao be crazy. He's saying
all kinds of crazy shit. Yeah, but I think that
people are starting to realize that you're gonna be with

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take Tko slash Turkey, or you're gonna be against them
very shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
I don't I don't know how you can draw any
other conclusion. And like this is the problem when like
they're doing business with somebody, it doesn't make a lot
of sense. But if they just overpay, you just kind
of look the other way. If you reduce the pay,
like there's nothing left, there's absolutely nothing left. It's like
comically and again, everyone was gonna want the highest pay,
But I'm saying, if the only thing keeping you there
is comically overpriced, you know, totally beyond what the market

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calls for paydays, I mean, get them while you can,
get them while you can. But if you're not going
to maintain those, it's going to be hard to maintain
the business that was underwriting it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Right Well, Look, one more person who has been in
Turkey's back pocket is Oscar de la Hoye of Golden
Boy Promotions, and he used part of his infamous clapback
Thursdays this past week to go hard in the pain
against data TKO. And if you're gonna do that, by extension,
I think it means Turkey too. Let's hear part of it.

Speaker 9 (01:17:57):
And speaking of scumbags, you can't run a boxing organization
when you don't have any fighters. And right now TKO
and Dana have zero fighters. What no fighters going to
fight for these pennies. The majority of their prospects will
fight one or two times a year and be forced
to survive on minimum pay. And keep in mind they

(01:18:19):
will be fighting tough fights. Dana said, the best must
fight the best, so their careers will be short.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
No pay per view.

Speaker 9 (01:18:29):
Fighter will fight for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
You're telling me the Canalos and the rhinds of this
world are going to agree to this kind of pay cut.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
We might not like it.

Speaker 9 (01:18:40):
No, the UFC fighters will be so pissed.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
The TKO boxers will be getting paid.

Speaker 9 (01:18:46):
So much more than they are. UFC fighters are already
disgusted with how little they get paid for putting their
lives on the line. Dana already tried several times to
get into the boxing space in the past. Remember ZUFA,
which never even got off the ground.

Speaker 8 (01:19:02):
The reason you've never seen me do anything is because.

Speaker 9 (01:19:07):
When Dana doesn't have the funding and the business brains
already in place, like the fertinas are Turkey, he always fails.
How about the ultimate server or the power set? Well
as for Dana's character, it speaks for itself. Ida't even

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have to say anything about a guy who publicly snapped
his own wife and his own mother wrote a book
about what a terrible person her son is, and it's
available on Amazon if you want to read it yourself.
Will I work with Dana in the future if he's
in the boxing space, Sure, because eighty percent of the
folks I deal with in boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Are scull bags. Anyway, Look, it seems a little glass
houses on there from Oscar.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
But you know, I mean, I would hardly take a
you know, an insult fest from Oscar as like some
kind of brave truth telling. I will say, however, those
are getting smoother in terms of delivery, like he's clearly
hired a rider or something. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Yeah, joke writer from the beginning, I think too, Yeah,
but that is interesting. We'll see where the marriages and
divorces within boxing promotion continue to play out as the
year progresses. Topic number five is a quick look back
and a very quick look ahead at what's actually going
on in the sport of boxing and over the weekend,
Tim Zoo, the son of the Hall of Famer, had

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his Australian return after an absolutely disastrous twenty twenty four,
stopping Joey Spencer in four rounds. So after a close start,
Zoo would go on to mop up Spencer using hard
combinations and building off the jab to end that two
fight losing skid. Luke, did the soul taker look like
he was all the way back from what happened last year?

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Uh? He looked good for as long as it lasted.
I just don't know what to make of Joey Spencer.
I mean, it's kind of funny. Joey Spencer's from Minnesota. Yeah,
I believe that's right, because.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Well, Ilhan Omar, who is the congressman or one of
the congressmen from uh Minnesota, was tweeting about it early
and then as the fight wore on, she was like,
my god, is he even gonna fight back? Like even
I think even the local congressman was like, goddamn, dude,
do something about it. So here's the thing. I think
Joey Spencer's a by the way, Michigan. Joey Spencer's from Michigan.

(01:21:26):
Well maybe he's got residents in Minnesota or some kind
I don't know. I don't know. I don't fucking know.
But she was tweeting about it like she was all
disappointed anyway, neither here nor there. What I'm trying to
point out, BC is it wasn't like a stern test.
This was not another Mrdazaliev, you know what I mean,
That's not who this was. And it's not another certainly
not Keith, I mean even like a washed Keith Thrmon.
I don't think that's what that's what this was. But

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you know, did he a perform. Well, yes, and b
this was the most important part of BC, and I
think we have some sound to this effect. It was
what he said afterwards, He's like, yeah, it turns out
if you don't like I mean, he didn't say this exactly,
but it was kind of like, if you don't fight
like a dumbass and you just an't rush into things,
you get better results. So this was a downgrade and opponent.

(01:22:09):
It was a get right fight. By the way, get
right fights are important. Tuneup fights are important. They can
absolutely rebuild confidence and get you going again. But it
was to me the understanding that you know, he was
the architect of his own demise and that Mrdasalia fight,
and hell, he's not gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Anymore, dude, one hundred percent. So even even though Spencer
is not a world killer, he's largely responsible defensively, he's quick,
he can do some things. And the whole point that
I took from it, which you kind of echoed, was
he just didn't come out with his hands down getting
hit with the same punch when he builds behind his
jab and he's godhead movement and the defensive sound, which
it was, dude, he's a completely different fighter. He's a

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near super elite fighter. Like that's the facts. He didn't
have that against Murdazali of the same mistake he made
against Goshet in that first round when he got dropped.
You can't just go to terminator mode. You gotta build
it up. I think he's now learned that lesson. I'm
not saying that this as you he's gonna knock out
Terrence Crawford in an undisputed match, but I do believe
he put it back on track. Let's hear from him

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in the ring with Ben Damon after the fight.

Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
Learn from my mistakes. You don't go in like a
hothead from the first round and just abandon everything.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
So learn my lesson.

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
And I had one hell of an opponent with me
with Joey Spencer, So I'm blessed to share the ring
with him. And are you gonna have plenty more opportunities.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
In the future. Who will you share the ring with next?

Speaker 6 (01:23:31):
Because we had Keith Thurman out in the country a
little while ago.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Do you have a message for him or someone else? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:23:37):
You know it, man, If the fans want to and
we can bring a mega show to Australia. The boys,
I no Lima, you know who to contact and now
we'll we'll do a big show here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Well look, Thurman put out a video in the middle
of the night that said send the contract, I'll sign it.
Zoo would outland Spencer in that fight, according to compy
box eighty one to twenty five, connecting on fifty four
percent of his power shots, and again the best news
was he wasn't getting lit up in return, So big
win there, Luke. There was a couple other boxing notes
that we saw. One of them, of course, was Joe Joyce,

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who really looked washed here in his late thirties as
he would lose again, this time to Philip Bergovich. It
was a fight that was boring. His hecket heated up
a bit at the end. And then we got this
tweet from UK announcer Adam Catterall. That's really just asking,
he says, Joe Joyce is absolutely entertaining, but he's the
Hugh Jackman kind of greatest showman. Come see the bearded
lady way. The money is irrelevant when his later quality

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of life won't allow him to enjoy that wealth. Wealth.
I hope his loved ones encourage him to stop. I
think he put out that tweet in reaction to Joyce
coming out in the postfight interview and saying, I want
to keep fighting. There's a lot of great matchups for me.
But let's look at his box truck page up close.
I mean, look look at that fall from stopping Dubois
and unbeaten Dubois knocking out Carlos Tacum knocking out Joe

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Parker to what we've seen in the last five fights.
You can't make a guy stop. I mean, there's journeymen
that go on into their forties and fifties, but I
don't need to see any more of him at the
elite level. He just gets beat up. That's that's just
the facts.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Yeah. I mean, maybe he's hoping for a big Saudi
payday of some kind, and I can understand that, but
I actually I echo what Adam Caterall says, that this
is it's time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Well, Luke, I forgot to hype this up on the
on the setup last week. But on that Richard Torres
Junior top ranked card in Las Vegas, the co Maine,
I'm sorry, not the Cole Maine. One of the undercard
fights saw Abdullah Mason on his twenty first birthday, go
in there and get a nice stoppage win against his
opponent Ornellis and Luke. He's eighteen and oh with sixteen KOs.

(01:25:43):
But like Bruce Carrington a week before, dude, he's talking
about title shots at lightweight like soon maybe next. Let's
hear a quick sound here from Mason.

Speaker 10 (01:25:53):
But like I said, we got the job done.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
You know, Cabert, we would have did the same thing.

Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
When were you takeaways from Snai man, that'll help you
going forward, I guess or not.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Less, you know, just go back to the drawing board.

Speaker 10 (01:26:03):
You know, you can always room for improve me no
matter how you do, it's always on to improvement. So
you know that's what this showed me as well. You know,
every fight and I did great.

Speaker 11 (01:26:10):
You know, yeah, durable opponent.

Speaker 10 (01:26:12):
I was touching him, you know I got him out
of there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
You feel your star breaking out?

Speaker 8 (01:26:16):
I mean you see how quickly everyone swarmed abound and.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
You had the crowd saying happy birthday. Do you feel
your star is beginning to break out? Oh? Absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 10 (01:26:25):
You know it's only a better time, you know, Bob
told me right after the fight. You know, keep stay focused,
and you're gonna get the face of boxing. So you
know that's what I see myself, fat a facing boxing
coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
What would you would you rather?

Speaker 8 (01:26:35):
Do you have a preference if Keshawn can't keep making
the way and you eventually have to fight for a
vacant title, But would you prefer to fight one of.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
The champions instead of winning a vacant title?

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
Does it not matter to you either way?

Speaker 10 (01:26:46):
I mean boxing and determine who you know, what would
happened when I get there. You know, if I get
there and I fight somebody who already has a title,
may end up taking a title, or if I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Have to fight for a vacant.

Speaker 10 (01:26:54):
Title, you know, it doesn't matter, you know, as long
as I keep stepping it up like all I've been
doing making these guys, you know, keep stopping these guys.
I'm making him look how supposed to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
Make him look.

Speaker 10 (01:27:01):
And you know, we just get our job done when
we get there. So that's what you look forward.

Speaker 6 (01:27:05):
To right now.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Look, you score four knockdowns in this fight, just turn
twenty one on the night, dude, These young Americans want
the smoke. I cannot stop saying it, Like, do you
want to put the brakes on him or do you
want to send him right into something.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
I was not. I was not overly impressed with the
caliber of opponent, so you know, I'm not sure what
to say about that. Also, there was a video that
would emerge of Shir Kris Stevenson talking to him backstage,
which was amazing. Sir Chris Stevenson gave him the best
advice for a young fighter in this.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
From the fight where Mason was knocked down twice in
the first round last year.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Oh okay, I thought it was recent, but either way,
the advice is still great. Which wash it doesn't matter
who it is. Every fighter is dangerous in the first round, everyone,
every single one. You have to take your time and
you know, methodically apply your game and it might happen
that you stop him in the first but it might not.
So you've got a plan for that, and you know same.

(01:27:58):
I would get the same advice to you know, Timsu
I'm sure understands it now, but you could see a
lot of fighters kind of get that that calibration wrong.
And anyway, that being said, Abdela Mason obviously is the goods,
but I didn't it was a good performance against an
opponent that didn't tell me much.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Yeah. Also, Keishan Davis's rumored to be making that title
defense against Edwin Delos Santos in June in Norfolks, that'd
be an interesting fight. We had janebec score a big
knockout in his Kazakhs down home coming. Didn't get a
lot of pub but it was a beautiful finish right there.
But Luke, this Saturday, we do have a card that
I'm sure you're going to be interested in. It's going
to be on his own and it is a welterweight

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title unification from Atlantic City. Here are your odds. According
to DraftKings, Jeron Bootsenis will be a minus six fifty
favorite against the Lithuanian and the unbeaten eye Montes Staniosis,
who is plus four point fifty the underdog. This will
bring together the IBF and WBA welterweight titles at a
time when this division could really use some life here, Luke,

(01:28:55):
Boots got criticized a lot for that kind of lifeless
performance last time out in that unnecessary mandatory rematch with Chukantzi,
And are you excited about what can happen here on Saturday?
Which is without question, the most dangerous fight of Boots' career.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Yeah, I've been waiting for Boots to get a dangerous,
tough opponent that forced him out of doing whatever he
wants to. Now Chukazan in that last one or two
k's and however you want to say it, he did
better than the first time where he just ran that ran,
but you know, it was on the outside the entire time.
He kind of brought the fight to Boots a little
bit more, but at the same time, you just you know,
he's a good fighter, skill fighter, certainly, but it wasn't

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like Boots got really pushed. There were issues that emerged
though from that PC, which was to what extent is
Boots somewhat lackadaisical about defense. I feel like Stani Josis
give gives us another not really another chance to assess that,
but to see to what extent that is a real
liability against somebody who's you know, a better fighter and

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you know, a championship level fighter at that. So it's
one of his fights where you like, we've been kind
of waiting for Boots to round a corner, around the corner,
around the corner. This is not the name opponent, and
there's other levels beyond this, certainly, but this is definitely
one of the more meaningful ones in his career, maybe
the most meaningful to date.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Yeah, Standiosis is tough, he's strong, he could take a punch,
he gets inside and goes to the body. So it
could be the type of style that could corner and
slow down Boots. But we do know Boots is gonna
have big advantages and speed, athleticism and just dynamic ability,
which is why the odds are where they are. And
just a reminder, the other two weltereight champions, Brian Norman
Junior with top rank Mario Barrios with PBC. If we

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could see that relationship produce them in a unification fight
and then have Boots the winner of Boots Standiosa's fight
the winner, that could be interesting. Here's Boots talking to
me on the BCX about that criticism against him after
a lackluster performance and kind of the recent stretch leading
up to this.

Speaker 12 (01:30:47):
You know, nothing we've never seen before. You know, uh,
come forward, ends up high, try to punches. There's nothing
we've never seen before. It Now, like I said, I'm
ready to show we're around the best in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
What do you plan on showing? Do you play? Do
you look at this light and think you can you
can outslick him and almost not get touched, or are
you willing to go through him if you have to?

Speaker 12 (01:31:13):
Yeah, tune in able to and see you know, And
I gotta be telling everybody before then, don't get up
to get no popcorn, don't go check the door or nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
Still keep your eyes glued to the screen. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
I love it. Well, look I teed up the wrong
clip there. He would say about the controvert. It's my fault.
He would say about the controversy, uh in the criticism
that if you give me an elite opponent, you'll get
an elite performance out of me. And you have to
feel for him not being able to get those tough
challenges along the way. He's put some crowds in Philly.
He's done his job. But Saturday is the true close up.
I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
Yeah, Sam, this is this is this is potentially the
first step in a real important turn in his career.
I hope, I hope it goes well.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
All Right, those are our five topics for the week.
Now we transition to your questions because, as you know,
every Sunday night at morning combat on X on Instagram,
we put out the call. It's called DMS from the
Digity Dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
Oh wow, we've asked for that to be replaced.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
I don't know the status you're trolling us at this point, Luke.
Our first question comes from Kyle J. C. Wagner. Does
landing zero significant strikes in around mari a point deduction
on the basis of timidity. I think he's talking about
Torres Finny here. Look, if you're only gonna grapple, you're
not grounded, pounding, you're not connecting. Should you automatically lose

(01:32:40):
the round or should you go as far as losing
a damn point?

Speaker 11 (01:32:44):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
No, he's The question was automatically, no, not automatically. I
could imagine a world where you get picked up and
slammed hard. That would not be a case where they're
landing significant strikes, but there's still damage being done. So
it would be a weird one to do that for
five minutes. But the question was automatically, no, not automatically.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
I didn't see the word automatically in there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Did you sw it up one more time? Okay? So
he didn't say automatically, I invented that. All right, does
landings zero significant strikes in around merit? So I'll say
the answer is it could. It could, But okay, let
me answer it this way. I wouldn't automatically make it
that way. I would it would have to be a
case by case basis because you can have damaging offense

(01:33:28):
without it. It's just a little bit weird and rare
to do it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
All right, there you go. Let's go to question number
two from c Cody Sanders S. Do you think last
week's PFL event was better than this week's past ufcapex event?

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
Yes, yes, that's not even a very difficult question to answer.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Yes, I would agree. I mean, on paper, you can argue,
but it's it's how it played out ultimately.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
And I mean, larone Murphy might be the best fighter
on either of those two cards. That's somewhat debatable, but
that's that could potentially be true. But event to event,
I mean, but here's the thing, Like the PFL event
was very good but had its limits, and that that
UFC event was, like, you know, of all the good
that UFC can do, that was much closer to the

(01:34:11):
bad of it, so to me, it's like, yeah, did
the PFL event surpass it? I mean, it's not impossible
for other events to surpass UFC events, It's just they
can't surpass it at the high end.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
For sure. Number three comes to us from Frankfurt or
sixty seven. This man must love the wiener Ben slack
in on my UFC watching what's the best upcoming fight
to get excited for it? Luke, everybody knows what's loaded
on three fourteen. Do you want to answer beyond that? Oh?
Or do we just say check the three fourteen main
card and get fired up.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
I mean, it has to be the three fourteen main card.
It's just such a good card. Beyond that, I mean,
I'm still waiting on Ilia, I'm still waiting on Islam.
I think there's a couple of interesting fights on three fifteen.
Obviously the Ian Gary Carlos Protest fights a big one.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
I would go with that. That's April twenty six. And
then also you have San Hagen versus Figaredo, which is
a pretty damn good main event. Ye on that card,
r Dr versus bo Nickel and the Colemane.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
That's not fantastic, yep. Fantastic. So there's that. Mean, dude,
UFC puts on good fights.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Absolutely, are you feeling at all what I'm feeling for
May tenth and kbec when Chevchenko in Farrow put it
together at one twenty five?

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
Nah, I'm not super pumped for that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
I don't hate it. I don't hate it. I don't
hate it, but I'm not like crazy pumped for it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
I appreciate your honesty there. Also we have a question
from Noah underscore gosho UFC one style round robin tournament,
Gable Steveson, Gordon Ryan, Tyson Fury, and Rico Verehooven. Who wins?

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
Probably Gable Steveson.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Really you don't think Gordon Ryan can tap.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Him in mm A Yeah, unlikely, unlikely. Yeah, Tyson Fury possible? Possible, Yeah, possible.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
I mean Tyson Fury gets dominated here. They're real quick.
The real wildcard is Rico, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
The real wildcard is Gordon. I don't think Rico or
Tyson have a shot in hell. The question is Gordon
does he have a shot for a submission in Again,
let me just be clear about this. This was like submission grappling.
I picked Gordon, you know, easily, and it was very easy.
Great with strikes, it becomes a very very different different ballgame.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
You don't think Rico could stuff a takedown and hurt
these guys.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
He has fought MMA. I think he could, you know what?
To that point, yeah, he could, he's fought mm A.
I don't. I don't know how recently he's trained his
wrestling and would it looks like today? But you know,
to the point you raise, he's done. He does have
some MMA experience, so that's something to count on.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
And while gables athleticism, physicality, and wrestling are obviously assumed
that we assume that they'd be very good. Can he
take a punch? You got to figure that out too,
you know, I mean, would you say brock Lesner couldn't?
I mean he could, he could take a punch, but
it would it would change him in a fight quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
He lost composure under fire. Yes, yes, all right, there
you go.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with Gordon Ryan
in the end. Yeah, yeah, I think he just makes
it gross on the ground and gets the tap.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
Possible, Absolutely possible.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
I mean, if it's UFC one style, there's no time limit.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
Right, yeah, I mean you could do like the Pride
ten minute rule. I mean it's heavyweights. They're not gonna
go that long anyway, whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
The rules are, you know, yeah, as long as Gordon
is healthy, right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
I think he's healthy right now? Are healthy enough?

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
We have one more from Mt booble thoughts on Ovechkin
breaking Wayne Gretzky's all time scoring goal scoring record. By
the way, I don't think anyone's gonna touch Gretzki's assist
or points record for for a long long time. But
this is so impressive. And then they want to know
what other record in sports do you want? Would you
want to see broken? So, Luke, you touched on it earlier.

(01:37:46):
I know there's a DC connection, but if even if
you separate DC, the fact that Ovechkin did it, I
think in the same amount. Isn't it the exact same
amount of games that Gretzky.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Did same amount of games to break it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
That's crazy because like like Lebron James crushed all these records,
but he's got so many more games due to his
longevity than a lot of his contemporaries.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Right, so he's got the scoring title or whatever. But
you know, he's got to you know, he's been competing
since I was in college. You know, it's fucking insane.
It's amazing. I didn't think this was possible. The people
in DC had been talking about this for like three
or four seasons, and I I was three or four
seasons ago, I should say. And you know, he was
like thirty thirty nine now, so he was like thirty
five thirty six, and you're like, I don't know, man,

(01:38:28):
it might be slowing down, his hair's getting gray and whatever,
but he's had amazing longevity to get to this past.
And what was kind of interesting for me is, you know,
I grew up on the days with like Peter Bondra
and whatnot, like old kind of Capitol's heroes. But I
moved back to the city permanently in December of four.
They drafted him in two thousand and five, they got April,
they got the bid for it, and then they drafted

(01:38:50):
them later. And so my entire time back like the
second kind of big chapter, because I remember I would
lived here before and then my parents were divorced, so
I would be constantly coming back, but I didn't live
here for quite some time. And then I came back
and then my entire like last twenty years of this
chapter of my life, Ovechkin's been for the Capitals anyway,
at the center of that experience, and I as good

(01:39:13):
as he's been, dude, I just never do I had
to live with like the Capitals kind of like failing
to make you know enough, like when he's won one
Stanley Cup, and there's been a bunch of times they
bottomed out, and like there was a long time where
like the talk of the league was Sidney Crosby, Sidney Crosby,
Sidney Crosby, who's very very good obviously, right, I'm not
shitting on Sidney Crosby. He can play. But for Ovechkin

(01:39:35):
to just kind of keep chipping away at this in
the way that he did, dude, it just and even
there's a video that came out yesterday of him an
old interview where they asked him years and years ago,
do you think you can break that scoring title? He
was like, it's impossible, it's and it'll never be done.
It's impossible, and then he fucking did it.

Speaker 10 (01:39:50):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
It's crazy. It's amazing to watch, really really quite remarkable.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
Especially because you know Gretzky did some gaudy totals in
the eighties when goal scoring was on fire, before the
prevalence of the left wing lock. Look, wow, did I
just pulled something? Wow? So it Obviously Gretzky had a
long career, but that's why his points and assists totals
are crazy. So to compare here, Gretzky is the all
time points which obviously combines goals and assists leader, with

(01:40:14):
two thousand, eight hundred and fifty seven. The second place
person is Yaarramir Yager, who played deep into his forties,
with one thousand, nine hundred. So Gretzky has almost one
thousand more points than the second place person in HL history.
If you want to know where Vezkin comes in, he's
eleventh overall with sixteen hundred points, and then particularly with

(01:40:35):
the assists, Gretzky has over nineteen hundred assists. The next
is Ron Francis with twelve hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
So yeah, Alvetchkin's a more limited player certainly than Gretzky,
but as you can see as a goal scorer, he
is fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
They asked you that question, what are the record in sports?
Would you like to see broken? I bring this up
the one hundred points from Chamberlain, Well Chamberlain in nineteen
sixty two. I never thought somebody would get as close
as even he's eighty one. But you know that game
where he scored one hundred, like that, they kept following,
they kept throwing lobs to him to try to get
the record. I don't know if you can do that
an NBA game without changing the competitive nature negatively by

(01:41:13):
like gratuitously forcing it in right, or maybe with a
three pointer if you hit twenty five threes.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess you could. I don't
have a I mean I kind of like it that
will still holds that, you know, because he was just
fucking everything that moved. I'll say this BC if like
other records, I would love to see. I mean, we
haven't seen it since what eighty six Dolphins. When was
the last time an NFL team went undefeated?

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Seventy two Dolphins. So again, the nineteen seventy two Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
Seventy two excuse me, seventy two Dolphins where they went undefeated.
I don't know why I said eighty six, but the
seventy two Dolphins and went undefeated. But that was a
when they had a shorter season. Now they've got longer season,
So I hover many games it would be at this
point eighteen plus the playoffs basically, well, seventeen plus the
playoffs anyway that I would to see. I'd love to
see someone go soup to nuts all the way undefeated,

(01:42:03):
just so we can shove those motherfuckers in Miami up
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Yeah, yeah, I hear you. On that fifty six game
hitting streak. Somebody will get that eventually in baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
I mean even Bonds is seventy three home runs. Eventually,
somebody's gonna somebody's gonna touch that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
I would. I mean, they play one hundred and seventy
do with these with these fucking what do they call
torpedo bats?

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
Have you seen these things?

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
They got to change that, They got to no fuck
that leave it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
Oh yeah, no, dude. Every time someone is like, hey,
let's make baseball more exciting, you've got dullards who go no, no, no,
we need to make it shitty and slow, I'm like, guys,
that's absolutely not They're.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
Gonna blow away the records with bats like that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
It's going to be awesome. Can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Oh god, this guy, have Luke Thomas's unbelievable look before
we get into my feces, do you have any comments
about the econoor McGregor shit coin failing so miserably?

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
How bad is his motherfucker? Like in terms of his timing,
could not be worse right, world markets are obviously in
free fall, and more to the point, like his star
power is absolutely collapsed. Man. The question you have to
ask yourself is BC, does this make it more likely
he returns for a fight. You would have to imagine

(01:43:15):
that it would. But at the same time, dude, chill
Son and I think is right where it's like Connor
comes back. If they put him against anybody good, he's
gonna get his ass whooped. Like I don't, I don't
really know what's next for this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
If Patty beats Chandler, it's got to be Connor Patty
in the in the UK, it's gotta be it's gotta
be Why not Chandler because he'll get knocked out by Chandler.

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
Oh, and you think Patty is not? Oh? I see,
I see it. Oh? Because you want to make it
a more competitive fight.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
Yes, And I want to give Patty the chance to
get that huge star rub. What's Chandler going to benefit
from the rub of beat him?

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
You know? Yeah? Bless he's the place. He's almost forty
like who cares.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
Right, And I think even if you give him Iliah
Connor would like it, would give him the rub. But
I don't think that's a competitive matchup.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
I think Ilia would absolutely stretch him.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Yeah, I agree with you. All right, it's time to
pick the colonels out of my feces. I scoured the
internet for the highs and lows, the good, the bad,
the ugly, in the in between, in the worlds of
combat sports and beyond, to try to see if Luke
Thomas can lose his shit. This is called h y
sts Luke. BKFC had a double header in Dubai over

(01:44:25):
two days on this weekend, and it gave Connor McGregor
speaking of the chance to wild out. Let's watch this
chick way in that ended in violence and check out
the phoner that Connor McGregor brought to those shorts.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
Tell that for the inaugural BKFC Women's World Featherweight.

Speaker 6 (01:44:41):
Hiti and Chill and uh ranked In and Jessica war.

Speaker 7 (01:44:49):
All right, let me get a word first, Jessica.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
Look, imagine a promoter and another big combat sport showing
up in like t running shorts, just you know, erect
his ship after two chicks brawled.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
And on the scale SPEKFC, dude, I don't you know?
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Well, after Connor tried to mack these two ladies in
the lobby and it looked like he went, oh for two,
let's listen.

Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
In is there sound there was supposed to be, but.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
Uh, just so you know, Connor's yelling I'm from an
island in Ireland. I'm from an island in Ireland, and
these chicks are like, yeah, whatever, guy, get away from me.
It was weird.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
It was really weird. Dublin is an is an island.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
Dude, you got I can't explain this man, Okay, but
here's Connor also at the club after the first night
of events. What do you think about that, Luke? I mean,
it's is it sad or comical? Right now?

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
Where are you at on this? I don't have great
sympathy for him, but it is kind of sad, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
Yeah, there we go, there we go.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
It's like, here's the thing. I don't mind the guy
partying or or whatever. Like it's his life, you know.
But to me, it's like the amount of partying seems overwhelming,
and the fact that he's getting in trouble with the
law on top of it kind of tells you it's
probably part of a broader set of things he's doing
to himself that are destructive, you know. And I think

(01:46:21):
that's the part where you're just like, god, damn man,
like this, the dude who won, I'm telling you, the
dude who won at UFC two o five is gone.

Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. Well, a fan apparently tried to
attack Connor inside the arena after the first BKFC event
in Dubai. Let's watch this. It's going to be on
the left of Connor as he's meeting the fans and
signing autographs. Did you see this piece of business? Luke?

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
Let's see, I did not see this, and.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
The security team gives it to the fan, as we'll
see in the end here. So it's the guy right
there in the white shirt, I believe, No, that guy
in the black shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
Yeah look, oh yeah, oh dude, they fuck him up, proper.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
You know you're gonna get stomped out trying some shit
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Yeah, Oh, he gotta looks like he got a drink
port on the back of his jacket too. But watch
this guy's face coming up here.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Which one is it?

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
You won't be able to miss it shortly. If we
get there, we might get there.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
We'll get there. Hang on, he's trying to play peacemaker here.
He got some some gordita in the ring there. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, oh yeah, oh they got good.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
They got him good. Uh Luke, do you know, speaking
of future president Conor McGregor of Ireland fame, there are
people out there who believe he can win the election.
Do you know this?

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
I don't know enough about the Irish system to say confidently,
but from what I've heard, it seems like a long shot.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
Well let's hear there's somebody that believes to fight and
it's running for president of Ireland.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
I like, everyone's like, you don't have a chance.

Speaker 11 (01:47:56):
You know what they're doing, Like, buddy, did you not
learn from the Trump You don't have to have a
background in politics these days. Politics are not what you
grew up with as a kid. It's not your dad's politics.
Usually the most famous guy wins, Yeah, but he has
this dark history. Did you not learn from Trump. He
has some shit in his background too. It doesn't matter,

(01:48:20):
It doesn't matter. He just want to change. You're not
voting for him to marry your daughter. You just voting
on something different. That's all it is. No one gives
a fuck, and they're gonna run on that trying to
smear his name.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
None of that works, Luke, that's an interesting take.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
He went on to say that we're doing skits and
bits here.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
No, he went on to say that he doesn't know
a lot about Ireland, but he believes Connor could wit it,
can win it. Let's go to the Ireland tabloids. They
did a poll.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
Yeah, they don't think it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Felt that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
There was a report from I think Sky News and
there was actually a couple of ways that he could
get nominated, and one of which is that enough members
of Parliament have to essentially agree to nominate them. And
they there's two hundred and thirty four. They asked all
two hundred and thirty four. Now, they didn't get a
response at all, one way or the other from one
hundred of them. But of the one hundred and thirty

(01:49:12):
four who did respond, every single one of them said
they would not support it every single one.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
So that poll was an update from twenty twenty three
where eighty nine percent said they would not support and
now that's gone up to ninety following the civil rape trial.
So interesting stuff there.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
I like the attribution wasn't actually his show, but it
was the Reddit.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Hey wherever we have, let's go to regional mma, Luke,
where what anything can happen?

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
Anything? Brother?

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
That was a all right? Check out this muy Thai fight, Luke.
Is this legal?

Speaker 11 (01:49:46):
Bah?

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
This is his UFC these days. Kick him in the balls,
kick him in the face each shit. There you go
there it is Tell you, bro, you fight regional MMA
or even regional kickboxing. You're taking your life into your hands, brother,
make no mistake about it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
The following clip is the wildest sixty seconds you'll see
in regional MMA. Check out this sequence, right.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
Let's see okay, Oh he's just unloading. Guy's covering up,
he's moving, he's moving. Oh he's getting hit. Oh okay,
let's see how he's going. He's gonna get knocked out,
isn't he the guy punching?

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
It's wild, it gets wilder.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
He's doing he's doing those overhand, like the standing hammer fists.
That's always a bad sign.

Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
Yeah, but the tide's about to turn McGregor diaz one
style here, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
Oh, man, dude, this guy's dr all all spinning, back
fist okay, all right, or back elbow excuse me, punch
punch okay, all right, all right, good hey, he's coming back.
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
This means the best. It's wild.

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
You know this is regional. Mma, dude, this will so
now the guy who is getting delt is dealing.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
Ah, Luke would say, good lord, dude, you know wow?
All right, hey, let's go to the regional karate scene. Luke,
have you seen a ko like this before?

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
But Bob, oh he did. He turned him into a
heroin addict on the on on the alphabet city.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
You damn right he did.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
Wow, dol. They send him face first to the canvas.
That's when you know it's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
Well, not all regional craziness happens in a cage, Luke.
Let's go to Latin American baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
Oh, he's started with the bat. Oh, good lord, half
aways swung it. Where is this Dominican?

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
I don't know. It looks like it's uh, could be
could be Mexico, I'm not really you know that that
well in on it?

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
But wow, that's my VP versus VCL. I don't know
who that is.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
That's some violent ish right there. All right, luke, this
is probably the worst day in this truck driver's life. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
Oh shit, oh yo, yo, show that one again, Show
that one again. Yo. Optimus Prime was like, get the
fuck out of my car, bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
All right, it's time for your falls of the week.
Let's check in on this rent a cop.

Speaker 3 (01:52:20):
You fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
Oh, let's keep it going. They tell you not to
play with fire kids. Look, you ever do stuff like
this as a teenager?

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
Yeah, of course I've done all that stupid shit. What
does my guy here do fall in it? No? All right?
All right, oh yeah yeah, why don't you fall in that?
Fat guy?

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
But you stop drop and roll? All right, let's check
it out. Some drunk chicks, they always fall for us.

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
A giant Connects four bit. I played this one at
this local bar. I go to oh, oh, you know what,
girl's falling over at the bar. I've never seen that before.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
No, no, no, let's go to the airport. You I
don't know if you've seen this before.

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
Hey, you know what, get why don't we fire more
airlines personnel because I'm sure we got the best and
brighters right there right now.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
You gotta be careful climbing trees too. Let's see this gentleman.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Is he gonna jump from this? Yeah? Yep, you fucking
bitch ass.

Speaker 13 (01:53:19):
Oh lord, oh boy, Wow, these guys fall from these
fucking heights and it looks like a fucking E c
W match, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
Looks like New Jack and Vic Grimes jumping off the
top of a scaffolding. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
Wow, paralyzed and you're like, was it worth it? I
don't think that it was, you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Know, not really not really all right, Luke, this kid
is gonna have a future. Check this out. Wow, it's
gonna be a dark future, though, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
Is that sugar it is? Yo? That kid's mom is
gonna have what dude? Little man? Little man was like,
eat shit, I'm about to get high as fuck off
the sugar.

Speaker 2 (01:54:03):
Luke, you love two things on this show, scorpions and
Jim fails. Let's put them together.

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
I believe I can fly day. He agrees gonna swing right?

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
Yeah, oh shit, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
Oh wow. I don't know if he lived Luke, we
may have to add that to the circus performer with
the snake.

Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
Somebody hit the lunk alarm at Planet Fitness. He had
a boo boo.

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
Luke, I've been planning ideas for Twoki's next birthday party.
Give me a thumbs up er thumbs down on this one.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
All right, it was a human shit? What is this? Dude?
What the fuck? What ai shit is this?

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
I think it was real, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:54:50):
Wow, traumatize these children with the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
So I think, so, Wow, Luke, let's look back on
greatest days in Magic Johnson history.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
You think that was the day, Luke? Well, you know,
could you say it was a bad day? You could
say it was a mixed bag?

Speaker 2 (01:55:11):
You know, it could have been that day though. All right,
let's get it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
Yeah, that seems like a possibility.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
Speaking of magic, it's time to head to the hard
word for some march madness. So you know these halftime
spectacles where they bring civilians in and you can make
a couple of shots, okay, to win money.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
Yeah, this is why he's not in the Marine Corps.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
Just a bit outside.

Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
I mean, like, how good are the athletes in the
arm services? And I'm like it depends entirely on their mos.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
Yes, yes, and whether they have a train ticket for
Osbourne or not. Also, Luke, check out this youth hoops
fight between Just watch it. So there's a hard fall
right there.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
All in the corner. What the yo.

Speaker 2 (01:55:52):
Mom comes out, but Dad's gonna come out in a second.
Get ready for this.

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
Him.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
Damn he got jacked up there. That is wild and Luke, uh,
you know when you get hot an NBA jam, you
are on fire. Check out these Darwin Award winners. Oh
he made it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
I mean, can we just arrest these guys? Can we
send them to Bouque's Dungeon and El Salvador? Please?

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
All right, Tom for your haircuts of the week, Luke,
I think they call this one the Pig. I'm not
really sure. I mean, there's better things you can be
doing with your time than this right now?

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
No I wear that? How are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
Would the question is would you would you be see?
Would you banger? That's that's what that's really the.

Speaker 2 (01:56:46):
I'll tell you on our Patreon after show. Let's go
to this next guy. We can call him the Golden Boy.
I'm actually into this, Luke. It's a little Cisco.

Speaker 1 (01:56:53):
Esque rit Yeah, you know what, My man is quite
literally shining.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
Yes, yes, clit quite Look a look.

Speaker 1 (01:56:59):
At that taper. That tape sick too.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
I like that. Uh finally, Luke. Some people call this art,
other people call it offensive. What is your what are
your thoughts?

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
Oh? My fucking god, enough of that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
Hey, let's go to the Brazilian side.

Speaker 1 (01:57:15):
Do you wonder why we get nine to eleven memes
that we can't show from our from our viewers.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
Yeah, I'm gonna put a I'm gonna put an end
to it right now. Look that's it. Okay, no more,
no more on there. Over to the next clip.

Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
What do we got here?

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
Brazilian soccer tunnel? Maybe we can rethink the design, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
Yeah, they didn't have to come out of a vagina.
That probably was the bad idea, Luke.

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
Kids say and do the darnedest things. Let's check out
this clip.

Speaker 14 (01:57:40):
I don't really understand those stickers that say baby on board,
because what is this supposed to do? What's the point
Because like, the only thing that I can think of
when I see that is the ladies driving must have
some milk bags on her, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
Look is that Jake fun Amsterdam.

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
By the way, that looks like somebody who would work
on this show.

Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
Yes, yes, it's all right. I meant to say. This
is the clip where kids do the darkness things.

Speaker 1 (01:58:06):
Okay, all right, we're dancing. We're dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
Is that New Orleans where it looks like Yeah, that
looked like it. All right, let's go over to the
toy horse.

Speaker 1 (01:58:27):
I did.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Look, they have weight limits on those.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
First. I noticed as soon as Big Bertha got on
that and the baby was sitting behind her where this
was going.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
And finally, Luke, you can find influencers for everything. Look,
I'm not handy with my car. I have no idea
how to change my own oil, but that's why I
follow people like this. Hi, my name is Stacy, and
today I'm gonna show you how to change an oil.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
So first, I'm actually not Stacy, and I don't know
how to fucking change an oil.

Speaker 3 (01:58:58):
But for seven eighty nine a month, you can see.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
My that's the shit of the week. I hope you
saw it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:13):
Do we happen to have her contact information? I have
follow up questions that can only be answered one particular way.

Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
Well, I spit all over the microphone. Hey, today's episode
of Morning Combat has been brought to you by Draft
Kings and presented by Draft Kings where the crowd.

Speaker 1 (01:59:26):
The worst part is like, if she had a kid,
she off the money she's making for OnlyFans, she'd be
able to put them through college, no problem. Whereas you
and I have to fucking sweat it out, you know
what I mean, living out here, we.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
Have to show her clips to make money. It's unbelievable,
right yeah, basically, all right, Luke, that's the show for
the week. I think we gave him a great effort,
but it's time to go home.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
Now, Yes it is. I mean, listen, you know we
have to work with Emmitt versus Murphy as our anchor.
I mean, what can you do with that? But hey,
Wednesday got a totally different ball game going on Wednesday
live at eleven am in the East. You're a boy
BC lt Will jay M. I guess we can call
him an MK. All together, they're going to get you

(02:00:07):
ready for the best card in quite some time. USC
three fourteen.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
Yeah, I guess what we're not going to do on
Wednesday complain. We're just gonna drink Cuervo and have a
great time, so check us out eleven am Eastern. Thank
you for supporting the show, Long Island, Luke, and you
say goodbye to the people at all.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
Goodbye people.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
Look out for my bet breakdown coming out this today
actually UFC three fourteen, looking forward to that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:28):
It is and Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (02:00:29):
Oh and I'm doing No Bets Barred with Jed this
week for MMA Fighting, so tune into that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Yeah, we're launching his career. He's going to take over
and surpass USBC probably.

Speaker 2 (02:00:39):
And also look, I saw that you're on Submission radio
breaking down that card as well, so shout out to
Dennis there as well. I am, I am all right
for Luke, and Luke at your boy BC. Take care
of yourselves. We will see you on Wednesday. Don't miss it.
Three fourteen's coming, and so will we. We're out here.

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