UFC Vegas 108 Preview, PFL World Tournament Finals, Conor McGregor Loses Appeal

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Really look at us now, timpted.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Jesus, oh comte.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Us will be well too.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
It's time to bug. Oh yeah, so first of the month,
get fired up. Friday, August, one of the twenty fives,
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So let's just roll off the balls. Hey, it's morning combat.
We're in the dead zone of combat sports this summer.
I'm your boy BC. That the alpha like individual from
the Connecticut suburbs. And then there's also a deeply sore
throated phenom when it comes to the intersection between fight

(01:13):
and political breakdowns. His name is Luke Thomas. And Luke,
what have you been allowing deep in your throat to
create this illness? Is really what the people want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I mean, I like how the implications that I've been
sucking Dix this whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I never said that. I never said that.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Okay, No, I've got some kind of I think I
must have influenza, because well I'm not. Actually who knows
who who?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
You got the nineteen and a half, you got the news.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I took a test for it today and they came
up negative. But who the hell knows. I'll keep testing.
But uh yeah, I got something that's whipping my ass.
I definitely feel sick and tired. So but I'm here.
I'm fucking here, So let's see how this goes.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, you're playing hurt, and we definitely appreciate that. A
lot of my heroes, you know, played hurt, Luke and I,
you know, and I and I, Jim McMahon of the
The Bears, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,
Jordan and that flu game that time, you know, Yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
You right now.

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We got a great Now, well we don't.

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We got a show for you to.

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but two that's what closers are all about.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
That's what closing is for. I'm not vaping today, nor
have I vaped in many days, because it's bad for you.
But yes, it's a wonderful shirt. I freaking love it.
But it's only here, as BC indicated, for a very
limited time. It's a window if opportunity, will you walk
through that door.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
To the floor.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, whatever, whatever the metaphor is, will you take advantage
of it? Your your the clock is ticking.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, my neck and my back, even my crack. There
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As Luke picks his nose, I would like to introduce you.

(04:30):
I could pick mine too, to the third member of
our team. Yes, he is a director, technical producer or
something like that. We just like him because he likes bongs.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
All right.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
His name is Luke Noarcita of the Long Island main
Card minute there, do not mention his dad's testes. Hey,
no Cita, how are you?

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I'm good, guys. We got a jam.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
It might not be the best MMA, but you know
we got a solid weekend. We got PFL tonight, we
got a.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Solid weekend Vegas. The shame you must feel, I just
saying something.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Like the way you guys opened the show. It was
almost as if we had no major MMA going on
this weekend.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
We got two ask you a question question we still
don't again, Well, hold on, hold on, there is a
little bit of something for that hit me. Who has
which organization has the best main event this weekend?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
It's PFO.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, that Gene. Maybe I'm telling you that that Gene
Logan Storly fight Logan STORLYBC, and we'll talk about it.
He might make it bad. Like people this week are like,
are you gonna wrestle him? He's like, I'm not gonna
do fuck else except wrestle the guy, you know what
I mean. Like, he's very open about it. But that
Gene is one of these guys who is one of

(05:41):
the things PFL is doing well is helping to get
him introduced to the MMA fan base. And I'm excited
for that one tonight.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
All right, I was wrong. Let me just update what
we're talking about a morning Combat Dot shop. The posters
are only autographed this month. That's your only option right there,
and as you already know, get these while supplies last. Yeah,
decent fights, I'll say decent this weekend between the two
championship fights on the tournament finals. If you will, no

(06:10):
Championship on the PFL. I'm also kind of intrigued about
this replacement UFC main event. You know, the more the
more I forced myself to do research because I've always
got you and Tom Cruise in my ear, I will
say that this is a this is a pretty good
main event fight. Even if this card blows giant chunks
of testes.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Luke, It's a card for hardcores and that's it. It's
not for anybody else, all.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Right, all right, right? There anything else we want to
sell or explain or you know, Deny, We're gonna do
dead wrongs and fan subs to close the show later today.
What else you got, lt we got?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
We got a freestyle Friday topic for topic five. I'll
save my little nugget for them. Also, I took a
dump this morning. It was not a breacher. I want
to be very clear about that. It was a standard dumb.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Okay, did you throw the paper in assorted bin?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
No? Because I live in a modern country with up
to date infrastructure.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
What would you name that bin if you had one
next year toilet?

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'm thinking Laden, I'd call it Brian Campbell.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
All right, all right?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Bit, By the way, my family hates when I do
that joke all the time. They're like, oh yeah, get
the clippers, they're in the bin. I'm like, well, what's
that been called?

Speaker 3 (07:26):
You know?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
And they're like, stop it, stop it all right. They
don't believe in Building seven like I do. But you
know that's okay. I've seen controlled demolitions in my time,
but what a time.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
To control demolition in the commode today. Trust that. Trust that.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
We're gonna hit you up with our weekend previews. We're
gonna tell Connor McGregor, maybe a little ali act, maybe
a little bit about ourselves. So buckle up, you're gonna
have a good journey today. They don't make shows like this.
I mean, you know, my wasting time just blathering and
bloating and and telling you how good this show is. Historically,
they don't make shows like this. Okay, we're independent. We

(08:04):
do what we want when we want.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Bitch, what are you doing right now?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I don't know. I'm just fre ball and I'm trying
to see if you'll play off of it. But you know,
I know you're you're ill. Okay, you're you're ill.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, you make me sick. That's that's the reality here.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
You make me completely miserable. Hey, topic number one time,
let's do it. Hey, this Saturday night UFC Warehouse, the
new Apex entrance, I've been told from John Morgan's tweets,
is open and we're gonna see a fight card there
as that construction continues, and a new main event that
was constructed last minute, of course, in the flyweight division

(08:47):
as Tatsua Tsuro Tyro excuse me of Japan, fresh off
that loss in that five round split decision war to
one Brandon roybal Well, welcome a new opponent very late
notice young Song Park, both promising young talents in this
one twenty five division. Luke, When we look at this,

(09:08):
how do we understand this fight? What significance is at
stake for the winner? And would you say that as
a replacement fight as we teased earlier? Might not be
sexy to the to the casuals. But I personally believe
this fight doesn't suck. What are you looking for this weekend?

Speaker 6 (09:24):
No?

Speaker 3 (09:25):
You know what, This fight absolutely does not suck. I
would be very very very surprised if it sucked. Tyrus
sixteen and one Park ten and oh so, but for
that Reyval split decision loss that you indicated b C.
You have a pair of undefeated flyways here. Number one.
I mean we have you have to count the loss.
But I'm just saying that's pretty interesting to me. Is
the first thing I'm gonna say. Second thing I'm gonna

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say is Park coming in, you know, on last minute
notice against Tyra Essentially, you know, what can you really expect? Well,
he's got I think four or five finishes via rear
naked choke. He's very good from the back. He's got
good striking. That left hook he hit who was that
against Shannon Ross and then obviously finishing him off with
liver shots that was pretty pretty impressive as well. You know,

(10:08):
he can do a lot, he can strike, he is
physical for the weight class. He's a road to UFC
winner by the way. Out of that, you know, the
Asian kind of theater that the UFC is trying to
set up over there, Like, dude, this is actually I
mean the problem is BC, neither of these guys are
known to anybody but hardcore. It's problem number one. Problem
number two is it's put together last minute because you know,

(10:28):
the USC's got a plug and play kind of model.
And then three, you know, in the case of Park,
he obviously has looked very good, but we don't exactly
know what his upside is, and not that we know
Tyra's either, but at least Tyra's been tested against somebody
the likes of Roival, so there's a lot that's kind
of unknown about it. However, based on how good both

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of them are, how scrappy both of them are, and
how well rounded, especially in the case of Park, although
Tyro a little bit more submission based than he is
standing acclimated, but nevertheless, you know they've got threats essentially everywhere.
This fight should be a banger, dude. This fight should
be really, really fun.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
And I always love when New Life is shot into
the higher end of some of these divisions that could
use it, especially when they're younger, hungrier names how we
got here, of course, I did leave out as a
mere al Bosi pulled out. Was it with an injury
or an illness? It was last minute for sure.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
I'm not sure what the specified reason was, but he
has had a series of health complications.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
It said undisclosed reasons.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, my sense is it probably could be related to that,
but I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
And of course Youngsung Park was scheduled a week from
now to fight former title contender Steve Erseg So he's
not coming in here untrained. But he did talk this week,
did Park about having to cut a lot of weight.
Not afraid of that situation. But you mentioned that, Hey,
maybe the hardcores don't know who these I'm sorry, the
casuals don't know who these guys are in this hardcore

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main event. It seems that some of the media also
doesn't know who they are. Here's an interesting moment from
Media Day this week.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
I just talked about your sharing this card with a
fellow countryman and Tatsuro you know, Kaya Sakara made his
debut in the organization last year. How is the growth
of MMA and Japan and how do you feel being
one of the faces of the sport there?

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Actually he's not, He's still Park, I think.

Speaker 7 (12:20):
You know, yeah, yeah, No, he's sharing.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
He's Park. That's why I was I'm.

Speaker 8 (12:32):
Jumping jumping back to you know, the quick opponent change,
you know, I.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Mean, is this worse than when Bryce Mitchell last week
was speaking Arabic to the man who was a Russian reporter. Uh,
I don't know, but he had the right guys. In
this case, he just had the wrong country. Park from
South Korea, not from Japan.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
But Park is like one of those like names like
Silva in Brazil. It's like you see someone with the
last name Park, there's like a ninety nine percent chance
their Korea.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Just like if you see a combat sports athlete of
Armenian descent, they're fighting out of Glendale, California, and there's
nothing you can.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Do about it. Hey shouts to Vic Darcinian.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, indeed, indeed, all right, Luke,
let's talk about Tatsuro Tyra, who I guess gets a
side privileges in this fight. Twenty five years old from Japan,
had a sixteen and oh starter to his career before
that fight against Royval last October, back to back stoppages
against Carlos Sonandez, a common opponent between the two and

(13:34):
Alex Perez, a former title challenger. But in that fight
against Royval as gnarly as Tatsuro Tyro was from a
standpoint of willingness to take punishment and just keep coming back. Look,
we did have a rudimental problem with a lack of
head movement or really any striking defense of any kind,

(13:54):
will that be addressed and changed heading into this matchup?
In your eyes?

Speaker 3 (13:59):
So, somebody of this age, as we've discussed many times,
often has the ability to make make up ground in
their deficiencies very very quickly. But of course that presupposes
that they're working on it and that they tried and
that this matters to them. And I have no idea
if he's done that since then. I mean, I don't
know how if your Tyra's team you look at the

(14:21):
footage from the Royval fight and think like, that's not
the first and most important thing to fix, because BC
you would agree like, can he scramble? Yes? Does he
have good takedowns? Yes? Does he have good submissions yes?
Is he tough? Is he durable? Is he in good shape?

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Like?

Speaker 3 (14:35):
There's a lot of key ingredients that are already in place,
hence some of his success and then the excitement that
we have around him. But oh my god, he got
shown up in that fight big time to be deficient
as it related to striking defense, and it really cost him. Dude.
Not for nothing. Park has good combinations, makes adjustments on
the fly. He's got a phenomenal left hook. I gotta

(14:57):
tell you like, you know, I have no way of knowing.
I have no way of knowing what he's gonna look
like tomorrow. But what I can say is, if he
didn't clean that up, Park's gonna take his head off.
Park can do it. Park has that kind of an ability.
But what I think is more likely to happen. B See,
this is just my official like sense of how I
think things will go. Park, I think will hurt him

(15:18):
on the feet, and then it's gonna end. It's going
to engender essentially a grappling contest, and that is where
I think Tyra might be scrappier between the two. There
he might have, you know, he might have just a
little bit more hustle in some of these positions, and
that can make up the difference. So it's not striker
versus grappler exactly, because you know, Park can grapple very

(15:40):
very well as well. It just means that I think
Park is probably gonna want to keep it on the feet,
and I think Tyra's gonna want to make it a
ground or you know, some kind of uh, you know,
wrestling exchange.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah. What's interesting though that Tyra lost that decision to
Royvall without showing any form of head movement or defense.
And then Royvall took that lack of head movement and
defense into that big fight against the breakout star last
time out in this division. So interesting transition right there.
But speaking of the common opponent between them, and that

(16:12):
is Carlos Hernandez, Tatsuro Tyra fought him three fights ago
in December of twenty twenty three, scoring a second round TKO.
But Youngsung Park came back from a nearly two year layoff,
initially fueled by a knee injury to also face Hernandez
this May. He finished him by rare naked choke relatively

(16:34):
easy in the first round, just two and a half
minutes in, for whatever that is worth. But Park ten
and ohero overall three and oh in the UFC since
his twenty twenty three debut, and then, as you mentioned earlier,
the back to back finishes on the Road to UFC
Season one. So look, why is Road to UFC fights
considered official fights? I don't know if their official UFC fights,

(16:57):
but Dana White Contender Series is not. And then you
have which is an exhibition.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
I don't I don't understand the difference. It might be
related to commission rules and the places where it takes place.
I'm genuinely I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I don't Okay, Okay, hopefully you're gonna feel a little
bit better.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
A lot of fine, I feel, I mean fine, all right?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Our draftings odds at the moment, I don't have them
on my website, Long Island. Look, do you have the
draftings odds for this main event? As we get closer
to this tomorrow night?

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (17:28):
So Tyra's coming in at minus three sixty Park plus
two eighty five.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Interesting, it is strong for me. I mean, it's late notice,
but Park already had a fight scheduled and somewhat big
one against Erseg, so it's not like he has been
doing nothing here. But let's talk.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
About a very different fighter than Tyra. Tyra much more
grappling based, like significantly.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
So, and much more wild, much more unpredictable in that regard.
So speaking of Tyra, uh, let's hear him talk about
the biggest lessons he did pull from that split decision
low over five rounds to Brandon roy Val last year.

Speaker 8 (18:03):
When you say working on your strength, you're talking about
strength and conditioning, And is that something that you normally
do a lot of or is that something that you're
starting to do more as you've progressed in your career.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Mazenka. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
The last fight against Revolve five minute, five round the
fight that definitely made me realize you need to get
better on conditioning and of course more on striking side
as well. So I think I'm back now definitely as
a better fighter.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
That's great to hear.

Speaker 8 (18:33):
I was going to ask you if there was something
that you took away from that fight that you could
use as a positive. But is that the main thing
that you realize that you thought that your conditioning maybe
was an issue or what else did you take away
from that loss?

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Conditioning?

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Yes, conditioning and striking for sure, but not just that.
I learned a lot from that fight and gaining experience
as well. Now I'm fighting Hunston Pak, who's younger opponent,
so it's my turn to show the experience and what
UFC fighters are.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
I can understand what he's talking about having more experience,
looking to bounce back from that loss and show it. Uh.
Tyro would go on to say he's got some big
plans here if he can get a win, and that
would be his countryman, Let's listen one more time.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Oh no, no, it's just the h It's just a clip.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Excuse me, my fault. There there is a Tatsura Tyra
interested in fighting kayas Sakura at Saitama Super Arena. That
would be a big one for the resurgence of Japanese mma.
But under the UFC banner. On the flip side, here
we have a Sun Young Park who is slowly learning English,

(19:44):
but when he does speak in English, he absolutely brings it.
In fact, he brings it to a level. We may
have to call in our friends from Cuervo for a
little shots fired, And of course this is shots fire
brought to you by Quervo. Now's a good time to

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enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. Here, Shung Hyung Park,
I will smash title, touch throw.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
Do you have any other English phrases that you've practiced
besides I was smashed the tour?

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Do you have any of their phrases that you've worked
I was smashed.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
By I'll break him.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Your last fight was submission, So should we expect a
knockout from you?

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Now?

Speaker 6 (20:33):
I think I submission knockout because the finish, Yes, knockout
which round.

Speaker 8 (20:44):
M hm two or three, good.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Luck on Saturday. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
That could have been a lot worse, Luke, because when
they taught me uh Portuguese swears. When I was a
bagger at stopping shop in the late nineties, I could
speak fluid sentences, but it was all like your mother
takes her shirt off in my bed on Sunday nights.
Like it was all ridiculous stuff right there. What do
you make of that type of Hey, I'm coming in
here late, notice, but I'm coming in here to take
this guy out and get a big win and advance forward.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Youthful confidence that these guys it actually works out to
our benefit, right because they just don't know what they
don't know. All these guys think, oh, yeah, yeah, you know,
I'm in my mid twenties. How old is park? I
think twenty five, twenty six something like that. I believe
is he really twenty nine?

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yes, twenty nine? Yeah, you're right either way, still, you know,
full of the youthful kind of exuberance that comes with
having early stage success in them and may obviously being
very very good, and with the poet trying to make
me see is I think that he absolutely believes, no problem.
He's going to get the win, and Tyre is a
tough opponent, he'll have to work for it. But in
the end, yeah, sure, no problem. And whether or not

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he's right or not, it doesn't matter. But I think
that he's going to get pressed. And again, I just
believe this is going to be I would be very
surprised if this is not an action oriented fight from
both guys.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Indeed, indeed, and thank you so much to Quervo for
this shots fired segment. We will be back with UFC
three nineteen pregame preview in just a couple of weeks
ahead of that loaded card in Chicago, DDP versus Jamaiev.
Who will be the third man? You gotta tune in
to find out as we get a little bit more
of that devil's reserve there from our friends at Quervo,

(22:20):
let's go over to our betting expert Long Island, Luke Nocito. Luke,
we just laid it out. You've got a hungry, young,
unbeaten fighter in park here. But Tyra's experience at the
elite level does matter. How do you look at these
odds in light of the quick turnaround?

Speaker 5 (22:36):
And where are you leaning this Saturday, I did so
I when this fight was announced. The odds weren't out
yet when I gave out my bet breakdown, so I
don't have like an official play on this, but I
was just looking at a few props that I'm liking.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Here the over three and a half.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
I think this does go long because Park is good
on the ground. Luke mentioned he's got a couple of
rear naked chokes under his name. Also, he has one
hundred percent takedown defense, so if he can just stuff
Tyra's pakdown and this stays standing, I feel like it's.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
A granted though he's not fought someone who's as good
as tyraight for.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Sure it goes So I like the over three and
a half at plus money because I could see this
one going the distance for sure if they just cancel
each other's grappling out.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
The other prop I liked is how about Park with
a plus thirteen and a half point spread, so he
has to win one round on one judge's scorecard and
that's plus one oh five. So as long as this
goes the distance or he just wins outright, I like
that as well. So those are the two you push.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Me back, however, on your prediction of it going the distance.
Park fought to a decision in his pro debut. His
next nine fights all stoppages, including all of the road
to and actual UFC performances. This time though five rounds.
He's gonna have to balance that cardial that's gonna.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Be a big part.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
Also, both these guys never been finished before, and like
Luke said, Tyra big step up in competition, So I
like it to go off for sure.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
There we go, Luke, as you look to this, I
don't want to make you speak at length here. You
can even just give me a word. Who wins this one?

Speaker 3 (23:59):
I'm gonna go with Tyra. I just feel like he's
seen more from him, which is not fair, but it's
where we're at. But I will tell you, like this one,
if you saw Tyra get you know, put out with
a left hook, would not be surprising or rocked and
then submitted would not be surprising. Like Park can absolutely

(24:21):
do that. It's just Tyra's a little bit more proven
at this point. So I'm gonna side with him. But
I'm expecting a banger, I really am.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, I'm leaning too the underdog here. I like the
spirit that Park is bringing there.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
But he's of mind is his nickname BC?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yes, peace of Mind. Either way, this does feel like
a bit of a roll of the dice, like he
could go either direction. Two very young, hungry guys looking
to attack. So gonna enjoy this main event in the
Flyway division now, even though the rest of this card
I have called it largely nubs, and I think it's
from a lack of star value or name value. One
of the worst Apex Warehouse cards we've seen in a while.

(24:55):
Both of you guys did point out earlier this week
that my casual ass needs to take a step back
because we do have bangers on this card. We do
have hungry action deliverers, and that's true in this lightweight
co main event as Matteas Rebetchki takes on Chris Duncan.
They're kind of former teammates. They seem to not really

(25:16):
like each other right here, at the very least, we've
got to expect that these two are going to bang.
Let's hear Chris Duncan talking about the new dislike in
what he didn't like the behavior of Rebetski in signing
up for this fight. Let's check it.

Speaker 8 (25:30):
Out, guys, have some history in the gym, right.

Speaker 9 (25:33):
Yeah, So to be honest, I took this fight on
a bit of a weird reason. And so I had
my debut two thousand and whatever it be against Omar Morales,
but my opponent had pulled out before that, so I
was meant to fight Mikyl Ficklak. He was a post
guy as well, and we had done my training camp
and Mitisham Becky was already in that court in the gym.

(25:55):
He went away hat his fight, he won, and then
when he heard my opponent at pool doubt, he said,
I'll fight you. We'd already been in the gym together,
so I was a little bit like we're supposed to
be teammates. So you know, I told him on Twitter,
I just said, get in line. Everybody's wanting a piece,
so just get in line. So you know, when this
fight came about later down the line, the Sean Shelby

(26:18):
sent his name over. I'm a guy who likes to give,
and his wish was to fight me. So I gave
him that wish. So you know, I think it's a
bad move on him, but you know, I was happy
to do it. And he's a very respectful opponent. He
was super respectful to me in the gym, and We're
just going to go out there and clash and I'm
going to show him I'm the better fighter. And it's
just unfortunately training the same gym, and I'm just I

(26:41):
was also very fortunate that American Top Team were so
professional in regards to you know, keeping us separate from
our trainings and stuff like that, so you know, it
is where it is. And like I say, I'm going
to make his wish come true.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
That's interesting. He does say, Look, we got along great
in the gym, but I don't necessarily like how this
fight came together. But he was the one that reached
for it. And it is interesting. Now, duncan you can hear
that accent Scottish? He's uh thirteen and two overall as
a pro. He did get knocked out by Slava Clause
in his Dana White Contenders Series debut, came back a
year later to get a win four and one in

(27:14):
the UFC since then three by stoppage. Luke, what do
you make of this little kind of beef between them?

Speaker 3 (27:24):
I think that it's the best We've got to talk
about this fight from any kind of angle. Other than
here's a guy versus here's a guy. You know.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
I mean, it's the damn comin event. But yeah, we
got two guys.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Looks again, whether it deserves to be comin event is
another thing. It should be a fine fight. I think
I don't know how to pronounce his How do you
pronounce the Polish guys last name? Say it again?

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Round Betski, like almost like the word r O U
n D in the front.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Round bets round Betsky.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
I've been listening to all the fighters pronounced their own
names on those media files, and that's how he says.
It's That's where I'm going.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
All right, I'm gonna say, mateosh, Mateush to me is
the better fighter in terms of what he's proven between them,
but he also just has a style BC where he
has to labor a lot and he takes a ton
of damage.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Oh my god, does he? Yes?

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, So you know, for that reason, I'm like, eh,
you never know here, But it just feels like there's
not enough overlap in the training room for us to
be like, oh well this that the nature of the
relationship in the training room will clearly have some kind
of an effect on the fight. It's not really what
that is. It's just kind of an interesting sort of
footnote in a story about a fight that just has
to happen.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Ron Betsky more experience here of the thirty two year
old veteran twenty and two overall. He's also four and
one in the UFC like his opponent Duncan, but we've
seen his last two fights were pretty wild. He got
knocked out in the third round for his only UFC
loss against Diego Fajeda in May of last year, but
came back in October in that absolute war, winning a

(28:55):
three round split decision over the Mongolian or or a dude.
That was two zombies going at it. Are we expecting
a return to that style of fight here?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
I just think, I mean, Oral Bai is to me
definitely better than Matasia's opponent on Saturday, So.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, whatever you got, whatever you can say.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, well you know, coming you break. But anyway, I
think that he if he gets pushed there, he has
no way of going any other place. I just don't
know if that's what's going to happen on Saturday, all right.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Ron Betsky a little bit more than a two to
one favorite long Island. Look, do you normally have insight
on these guys? I normally ask you for the you know,
curtain jerkers here, but this feels like in all action
but still quasi curtain jerker. Colemane, where are you leaning here?

Speaker 5 (29:47):
So this one's tough because, like, if you dissect their stats,
they're literally identical and everything. They're both four and one
in the UFC, they both won for their last five,
they're both thirty two years old. They both land roughly
the same strikes for a minute and both roughly get
hit the same strikes per minute. But look at the
competition against oral By and against Diego for Hara, those
are two killers. Also those were I don't know if

(30:08):
those one fight of the night, but they definitely should
have both of those banger of fights. I just like
feel like round Betsky is the better fighter. I'm running
with him here.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
So really, all right, well we continue on down the card.
We continue on with the lightweights. Here Esteban Rivovich. We
know he also gives us big time action fights, including
that one at the Sphere against Daniel Zelhuber. This time
he's taking on Elvis Brenner. Luke, what do we got
here two guys or two guys that are gonna bang.
I mean, I'll take either either either equation.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
I guess I bet you will. I mean Ribovich Ribovis
is uh, he's got insane stats. We see his strikes
landed per minute are over eight, which is absurd beyond words. However,
he nearly absorbs six strikes per minute, so he has

(30:58):
a positive differential. But that's just an enormous exchange with
the problem for Brenner is Brenner also absorbs almost six
at five point three. However, whereas Ribovik's lands at over
eight per minute, Brenner lands at less than four, So
he's got a negative differential and that number is insanely high.
I just feel like that's probably gonna show up. But

(31:19):
like you know, I'm not super high on either guy.
If I can be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
I understand it. El Gringo is what they call Ribevich.
Fourteen and two overall form Argentina, and he did come
back off of that victory against Daniel zel Huber by
split decision to drop a split decision of his own
against nosra Hakpaross in his last bout, So not a
ton here at stake, But I guess these all action

(31:45):
guys are going to bang. What about some people that
are saying, if you're going to do back to back
lightweight fights involving bangers on here, why did we not
put Ribovich against rom Betsky rather than put ron Betsky
in there against the teammate. That's what some aers saying. Luke.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, I don't know why they ended up the way
that they ended up. I don't know how the UFC
ended up together. Taste.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
We've got a we got a hole in the damn hair.
Let's stick some bubblegum. That's what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, there's a lot of that. There are some good
fights on this card if you want to talk about them, though, let's.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Talk about it. What are you looking at? Because you care,
you care about MMA.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
It's gotta be the Danny Silva and Kevin Vaejos or
a Jehost fight out of the Argentinian kid. He looks
to be the real deal Holy Field. Now it's so
early you cannot say that with any degree of confidence,
but having him back is important. I think this is
a fight he can win and he can look good
in doing that. To me is interesting Renya Knackamora also
a prospect of I would call value against Nathan Fletcher

(32:42):
is one not to miss. Uh, you could make an
argument for Pierre Hadriguez and Kaitlin Suza. You know, it
doesn't do much for me. Also, Neil Magne versus Elizi's
Los Guido Santos is like five to ten years too late, but.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Magni's lost five of eighties thirty seven.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
These are However, adelfov Era I'm always going to be
interested in because he was such a specimen in jiu jitsu,
but I realized that in mme it's not the same thing.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Not the same for the thirty five year old Brazilian
who has lost three of his last six, and I
mean ever since he got subbed by Fluffy Hernandez, it
feels like the magic's been gone.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, I would agree again Watchingha, we didn't put in
the rundown. Bouchetsha loses to Martin Boudai. Now I'm not
one of those guys. It's like Martin Budai the next
big name and you know, heavyweight MMA. But he did
go seven to one. BC beats Bouchisha and then the
UFC declined to re sign him. I'm just gonna ask

(33:36):
this genuinely, like, why would they do that? Is it
because he has what I mean.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Kelly, that hangs and flops? Is it like you should
call it?

Speaker 3 (33:46):
He should call it Joey? Uh? What like a kangaroo?
Like having a Joey in there? I got it, I
got it.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I'm sure Nocie this dad loved that shoe. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
What I'm asking is from the UFC's point of view,
why would they do that? What was reasoning behind why
they would do that?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
You have no one at heavyweight. We're rolling out the
same Spevac versus ty Burrow. You know, we're about to
do six fights between the two of them, or at
least it feels like, oh, who are you take the
tour of Tafa? Please? No, we got a guy who's
seven and one. I mean, he's not overly exciting, Luke,
But what else do you have to do?

Speaker 10 (34:22):
All?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
I can I hazard a guess please? I think they
just found him boring. Like, if I had to ask you,
besides the Boucheesha fight, what's your favorite Martin Bouday win,
You'd be like, I don't fucking know. Long Isand look
what's your favorite Martin boudaie win not counting bah.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Well, see you gave me that caveat. I was gonna say, Bosha, Nah,
I don't Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
See what I mean. I think they were just like,
you're just not memorable and we don't care. I think
that's the reality.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
Is there an argument though that, Like remember when they
reignited the flyweight division and they were like cutting all
these more boring guys and then signing all these like
LFA exciting guys, Like, is there that argument they're just
gonna let's get rid of these boring guys and Rejude If.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
They're cutting guys like Martine Budai and then they're gonna
announce we see I'm making something up right. Yeah. But
let's say they announced they're gonna sign and a totally
Mallekin next week. Yes, okay, I'm fine, no problem. But
it's like they're just gonna cut the guy and there's
nothing coming in on the back end. That's the point
where I'm like, I don't get it, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, I mean you prefer things in the back end.
I would say that the idea of what about some
aging light heavyweights moving up to heavyweight to become action fighters.
Maybe they're opening up some room for that.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
I'm not Yeah, so let have weights to move up. Yeah,
there could be that as well. Again, it let's just
see what they do to replenish, because I can understand
why they might get rid of him based on replenishing scenarios.
We just haven't seen them yet.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
I mean, off the top of your head. And I
don't even know if this is something he's thinking about.
But what if you found out tomorrow that Yan Blokovitch
and Yuri Prahatska were moving up? Do you look at
those as contenders for the crown pretty quickly?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yan Belhovitch and Yury Prohotski for Yeuri? I do? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
You don't think Yan can find new life.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
There beating Tom Aspital?

Speaker 1 (36:01):
No? Or or could he beat the guys on the
way to getting to Tom he.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Could beat maybe he could probably beat some of them. Sure?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Okay, Okay, interesting interesting stuff right there? What else long island, Luke?
Because I know you care? I know the main card
minute is going to be rocking regardless of your boyfriend
girlfriend's situation on Saturday?

Speaker 3 (36:20):
What else do you are you? Are you single yet?

Speaker 4 (36:22):
No? I'm reigning defending guys. Also a Boyfriend of the
Year shirt in the merch store, Now go grab it.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Is your girlfriend. One of these types that's like, oh,
you you've never met her. She lives in Canada kind
of thing.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah, she goes to a different school.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
We've been over this, but uh no, dude, I feel
like you guys went over every good fight on this card.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Let's be real there, this card is.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
This car No, it's nubs. I mean we went over.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
All the good fights, over all the good fights.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
This card, this card, to me, has one of this
kind like this kind of potential BC where if you
sat down and watched it, you would be like, hey,
these fights turned out to be not so bad. It's
definitely got that on it. But it doesn't have any
fucking narrative or sizzle. It's just once again, it's UFC
Banquet Food, you know, edition two hundred and seventy three

(37:09):
or whatever.

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(38:54):
of MMA we've got only it's this evening a nine
pm main card Star time from the famous Boardwalk Hall
in Atlantic City, home to Arturo Gotti's home to wrestle
many A four and five by the way, this time
will to be home to the.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
PA to whatever communicable disease I have inside me?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
There you go. Why'd you get that in AC?

Speaker 3 (39:16):
No, but I would imagine that AC would have it
on you know, extensive supply.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, and they also have loneliness there. But what we're
gonna get is PFL eight And what this will feature
is I wanted to say, but it's not true. This
is like the world Championship. Is it fair to say, Luke,
as this card will feature the welterweight and featherweight tournament
division championships. I guess that what it really is is,

(39:41):
is this the championships of PFL USA. Is that how
we're supposed to, you know, read this, and that the
winner will advance on to this world tournament of champions
I don't see there's the here the good news I
don't even know, dude, I don't even get it.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
I really the good news about the PFL product is
it makes no sense to anybody, even those who pay
close attention to it.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
So my understanding is this would not encompass necessarily. And
I realized that PFL has divided in some ways along
geographic lines PFL Europe, PFL Mina, you know, and the like.
I don't think this explicitly follows that. I would say
that the winner of this gets set up for a
future like company wide title championship. This will just be

(40:26):
a tournament champion, like you could win the Strikeforce EVERYWEK
Grand Prix that actually is a separate title from winning
the Strikeforce Heavyweight Championship. So it's kind of like that.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I just want to say it one more time, like PFL,
please drop all of these extra tournaments upon tournaments upon
tournaments and stop putting your best fighters in South Africa
or other parts of the world and put them in
there against one another for these championships. Please Anyway, these
matchups are not bad though. That will close out the
tournaments in two different divisions, including this main event that

(40:57):
we all like a lot. It will be for the
well Wait Tournament Championship and that five hundred thousand dollars
cash prize or maybe via check or you know, let's
hope that check clears. I think it will because Don
Davis has been out getting big time investments from India
from Abu Dhabi. But what we have is a good
PFL story as ten and Oh Thad Gene, a guy

(41:19):
that we were really not talking about much entering this season.
He went through the ass kicking machine Jason Jackson by
upset and now he's got another Bellator alum in the
case of logan Storyly Luke, when you look at this matchup,
twenty seven years of age for Thad Gene and that
hot run to the finals, is he on the verge

(41:39):
in your opinion of becoming one of pfl's key breakout stars.
If he can get past logan story later tonight.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
I genuinely think he could be. Like you guys know,
we got up here and talking about the PFL. Most
of the time, it's like, hey, they're gonna go out
of business, and it's never about some of the cool
things that they're doing. But let's give them an opportunity here.
This is one of the better things that they've got
going on. Now. I'm not going to sit here and say,
you know, he's going to be the men's equivalent of
what they've developed in Dakota Ditcheva. I don't think that's
quite right. But he's important for a lot of reasons.

(42:10):
He's young, He's still in his midish twenties, right, He's
got an interesting personality. He speaks well on the microphone,
like he can sell himself a little bit. And more
to the point, as you indicated, a red freaking hot
run to the tournament backed by somebody. If you may recall,
they used to air on Fubo, the PFL Championship excuse me,

(42:32):
the PFL Challenger Series, remember those BC They would air
on Fubo, and I think Tyron Woodley called those fights
and some other ones. Again, they have so many franchises
you lose sight of it. But the point I'm trying
to make is they got the guy at a stage
when he was very developmental and a very young pro,
and are now at the point where he could end
up beating a four time All American, a very experienced,

(42:53):
you know, twenty plus fighter, twenty plus pro fights, experience
fighter in Logan Storley, who of course comes from Kilcliff
backed by robbe lawlerblaeah blah blah. Like he's proof of concept.
Their concept is mixed and sometimes hard to understand it PFL,
but this one is pretty clear to see. He came
from developmental programming. He's winning his way through the tournament.
He's winning in an exciting way. He's got great things

(43:15):
that you can look at and have excitement about his future.
He has to get past Logan story, but BC like
that gene one of the things that has gone really
right for PFL and absolutely worth your time to watch tonight.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, just twenty seven years old ten and zero had
that split decision win over Jason Jackson in the semi
final round to get here, and now he's a little
bit more than a two to one favorite against the
former Belator title challenger and story who's riding a three
fight win streak, all by decision, of course, Luke. For
anybody that hasn't been following the Thad Gene story, how
do you sort of summarize the abilities that he brings

(43:53):
to the table.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
He's much more striker than he is grappler, but he
against you know the way, how did he get to this?
He had a neck and neck or you know, a
tooth and nail fight. I suppose a tooth and nail
fight against Jason Jackson, and ultimately he had Jason Jackson
out gunned on the feet, so he tried to take
him down and then you know, manhandle him there, and

(44:16):
that Gene just simply would not let himself get handled
that way. Obviously it was close. It was a split decision,
but then before that he'd beat bra Khamov in like
devastating fashion. Dude, He's he's awesome. He's awesome, he's doing
awesome things. He's surprising people, he's likable, he seems smart,
he's young. It's like, man like, if you're gonna get

(44:37):
excited about it, I mean, what's what are the criticisms
we see of the PFL guys relative to UFC guys,
it's like, oh, they're UFC washouts or you know, you
know somebody who's like a bit of a has been
and this guy is the opposite of that. He's on
the come up. How far he can go, I don't know.
Logan story could easily you know, pop the balloon or
that he's trying to inflate here tonight. But but in general,

(45:01):
there just appear to be so many reasons for optimism
about it. And I think that's what I would like
to communicate to me.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
And I'll give them credit, you know, from sort of
casually following the PFL socials and the changes that they've
been looking to make lately, they've really done a good job,
in my opinion, presenting his story and showing you that
this is a homegrown guy on the rise that you
need to pay attention to. We've got some footage here
of that Gene talking about his journey to get here

(45:27):
on a recent podcast sit down. Let's listen in did
you play other sports growing up? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:32):
What else?

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Did you play?

Speaker 10 (45:33):
Basketball? I played baseball for a season and then I
played football. The entire time, So what like an I guess,
was it just McGregor that initially said I'm gonna I'm
gonna fight, or like what was it that?

Speaker 1 (45:44):
No, it was an injury.

Speaker 10 (45:45):
It was a football injury where I tore my lcl
and I couldn't do you and I was running back
so I couldn't do like the breaks on the outside
because it shifted my own out and I was like, ah, God,
what do I do now? I was like cut to
I was like praying hard, God, what do I do?
And then randomly one of my brother's best friends told
me about jiu jitsu. I went to jiu jitsu, and
then I started really diving into what this whole sport

(46:06):
was about.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah, it's mooy tie.

Speaker 10 (46:07):
And then I seen the next step of it was MMA,
and then I seen Connor McGregor, and I was like, oh, shoot,
I really like this guy's metality.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
It's like my own.

Speaker 10 (46:16):
He's going out there and he's doing what he's saying
he's gonna do, and he's not taking anyone's crap for it.
And I'm like, oh, I love that. I want to
be like that guy. If anything, I want to be
better than that guy. And he's he's he's smart. He
wears the right hats when he's supposed to, he wears
the promotional hat when he has to wear a promotional hat.
He wears a fighter's hat when he's wear the fighter's hat,
and he wears that business hat real well, So I
mean why not, Like, I mean, you don't want to

(46:37):
look at his love life and things like?

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Oh no, I mean yeah, we were just playing around there.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Yeah, I mean, you know there's ways you can take
inspiration for that. I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
I wouldn't call his alleged crimes part of his love life.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
But you know, yeah, but uh, Jeene six foot two,
you heard that backstory coming from Football Fighting out of
Fort Lauderdale, we got a little bit more about Jean's story.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Let's watch this What makes a that on fight a
must see TV?

Speaker 10 (47:04):
I'm next up? And when I say next up, you're
here's the thing, August First, You're gonna see why I
say I'm next up. I'm going to be the first
Haitian to actually win a pro.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
M m A title.

Speaker 10 (47:21):
Loud and and that's what I and that's what I
want to I want people to see history to make
and I'm going to to make sure that people see
that faith, hard work, discipline, pressure, someone who is strong willed,
who talks the way he talks, but confident because of
the faith he has is the way we all should,

(47:43):
I want to say all, but should just be confident
in what you do. And I'm going to put that
on display, that it's not just something only I have,
but that we all have.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
We just have to bring it out.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
He's got a refreshing attitude. Those were appearances and the
spinning Backfist pod on Stool along Island. Look you do
a podcast with former MK producer director the Great Gaffney
Jim Pere Pierre over there on the main card minute
and that man vacation. What'd you just say?

Speaker 3 (48:13):
The Haitian sensation.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yeah, he vacked Haitians. Hodcore from Andre Berno to name
another Haitian? Is he on the thad? Gene Rise or
Geen Rise as aggressively as I assume?

Speaker 5 (48:26):
So I think it's Gene, even though you would think
it's Jean because he's Haitian, but he's like born and
raised in America, his parents are Haitian. I don't know
either way we're going. Gene Gaff's been on the Thad Gene.
I almost said trained, but then I went to Osbourne.
GA's been on the Thad Gene train since like day one. Dude,
for over a year. He's been telling me about this guy.
He watches every fight. Gaff almost got him for an

(48:47):
interview early on one of his favorite fighters.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
You know he's gonna be riding with him.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Today, Geffney Jim Pierre, excuse me for butchering that he
likes trains, but he just doesn't like to pay for sex.
We can, we can understand and appreciate that. Luke. On
the flip side, we've got a great veteran here, maybe
not great, a very good at times veteran in the
thirty two year old logan story who probably tore it
up in his South Dakota hometown back in the day
on a Friday night. I mean, that's a recurring joke

(49:13):
that I'm sure is accurate. But Luke, even though fought
well in that first fight with the Arslava Masov, that
really put him on the map, you know, every time
it was like step up time. Maybe we didn't see
him fully make that step up. Got a split decision
win over Michael venom Page back in twenty twenty two
to briefly become the interim Belator welterweight champion at a

(49:37):
time that I really thought MVP deserved to get his
hand raised. Lost a much wider unanimous decision to Amasov
in their five round rematch for the title. Since that loss,
though is four and one overall, was knocked out by
Shamil Musaiev under the PFL banner back in twenty twenty four.
The big theme entering into this, as you teased earlier,

(49:58):
is that people are a little bit sick of Story's
wrestling based only style. Asked about it this week, he says,
I'm not going to change a damn thing. Is this
style and the experience, and this legit experience. He's fought
some good guys in both Walter and both Belator and PFL.
Is that enough to be a legitimate challenge to stopping
the rise of that gene as the next PFL breakout star.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
It might be. I mean, this really is not so
much a test of Logan Storly that we can tell
at this moment, but more a test of fat gene.
Logan Storly is a good fighter, four time all American,
as you indicated, former interim belt or champion, has beaten
good guys, trained with good guys, come from a good camp,
and you know, at this point in his career is
kind of punted on the idea that he wants to
be like decidedly well rounded. He just wants to stick

(50:43):
to his strengths and get some money and win some tournaments.
And frankly, I think it's probably the right attitude at
this point, right Yeah, I would think so. But but
what I'm gonna say is, you know, he you've seen
his ceiling, You've seen it. It's a good one, it's
a real one, but it's you know, it's a lot
of pissditional control. It will tell us a lot about
Thad Gene if he's able to beat both Jason Jackson,

(51:06):
who was trying to stall him out in the wrestling,
and then Logan Storley, who was going to probably be
avowedly trying to not stall him out per se, but
you know, control him, can win control positions to win rounds.
You know what can Thad Gene do? Can he rise
to the occasion on the feet There's really no question
he would. I think he would light up Logan storrely,
no problem. But it's the other component, right, and of

(51:27):
course how the two blend is a component as well,
So it's just a to me. This is why I'm
kind of like we introduced to BC is like the
Thad Gene kind of show, which is I'm not declaring
to you that he'll win. He could get ridden for
you know, the whole fight, and you're like, oh right,
when's it loses a unanimous decision about he could, But
he's got momentum. He seems like a breath of fresh
air in terms of like names on the PFL roster.

(51:49):
They basically produced him even from a much more developmental stage,
Like it's an exciting little show for him, and I
hope that he can rise to the occasion.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah, let's also here one more time from Gene talking
about the specifics all of this matchup against Story and
why he thinks as a two to one favorite, he
will get the job done.

Speaker 10 (52:08):
Dark Horse to start out, but you know, now I'm
in the finals and we'll see what that horse turns into. Yeah,
exactly that, And I'm ready to take it away from uh,
take it all the way, take it takes the title.
Come August first, against Logan Story. As we know, he's
a one dimensional fighter. He's nothing like Jason Jackson. Jason

(52:29):
Jackson is a mixed, well rounded fighter. And so I
don't want to say that I'm discounting Logan storly he's
grappling his wrestling or anything like that. But that's all
I gotta worry about. I don't feel like he wants
to fight, if that makes sense. Like he's coming and
I guess that's just the way he is. He's not
he's not a talkative person. He's just he's coming out.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
This is business.

Speaker 10 (52:47):
I come to do business, but this is how I
conduct business. And uh, And when I look at someone
like that, it's more like, hmmm, are you really here?

Speaker 1 (52:56):
You ready?

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Are you actually ready?

Speaker 10 (52:57):
Do you know what you're getting yourself into? Do you
know you actually going against I'm seriously, I don't know
if I'm gonna actually fight him.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
That's how it feels. I'm ready to fight you.

Speaker 10 (53:05):
Whoever goes into decades again, it doesn't matter who it is.
But if it is Logan Story, and if he actually
does want to fight, then yeah, I'm gonna, Like I said,
I'm gonna take it away. From him not in the
third nine of fourth nine O fifth, No, the first
two rounds, he's gone.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
If this does look like a striking match for the
first two rounds, he's gonna have a great opportunity to
do that. Logan Storly, striking is it's serviceable? Basic? Yeah,
there's there's no other way to say that along Island. Look,
you tend to do even live streams of PFL cards,
So I do want to get your take here. Gene
started out as the big underdog in this tournament. He's

(53:41):
become the favorite in the final. Are you backing him?
But that's probably dependent upon him keeping his back off
the mat.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
Yeah, I'm I'm gonna back him because I think like,
if you beat someone like Jason Jackson, you could probably
beat someone like Logan Storly. So five rounds does make
me a little nervous in my head. I thought this
was a three rounder because l is weird like that,
and just as three rounders for everything. So I was
like liking thad by Decision. Now that it's five rounds,
I'm feeling a little more weary on that, but even
still sad By Decision plus two fifty I like that

(54:11):
all right.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
By reference, Logan Storley did go to the five round
limit in three consecutive fights during the UH Was that
a tournament or was that a big regular matchmaking when
he beat Neman Gracie by decision, won the split decision
against Michael Page, and then lost that subsequent five round
decision in the rematch with Amasov Lukes Thomas, I know
you respect story, but I know you believe in this

(54:35):
high riser who gets their hand raised tonight.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
If I hadn't seen him beat Jason Jackson, I probably
would be like he might have squeaked by. But I
watched it and I was like, very very impressed by it.
Give me Thad gene here man. We all know this well,
no no pun intended. We all know the story with
Logan story. You know it is. It is smothering wrestling.
That's the game. But I feel like it might be
coming to an end, or at least the how do

(54:59):
I say that, the ability for him to lord that
over interesting opponents I think has faded. He kind of
now I'm gonna say limped, But he didn't like cruise
to the finals in the way that that that More interestingly,
I thought that that Jean did that. You know what,
I've pronounced his last name properly, Jean. He he's just
more interesting to me, So let's see if he can

(55:19):
get it done. I give my I think the young
kid will get it done here.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Well, I got to say this, Yeah, I agree with
that breakdown. I'm also going to back fad Gene here
because I do see those limitations of storly play out,
and even when he gets you down, man, it's not
like he's necessarily on the verge of finishing you at
any time. He's just a solid, experienced, strong tough out.
But I think Fad Gene has what it takes and
if he doesn't, look it'll be a it'll be a

(55:44):
humbling disappointment in that regard, So we'll tune in. I'm
expecting fireworks though in this co main event, which will
also Crowny Tournament champion, this time at featherweight. And Heyzeu'seda
the Pinato excuse me, The twenty nine year old from
Peru is on fire. He'll be a slight betting favorite
when he brings his five fight win streak, all by

(56:06):
stoppage against mavlid Haba Habulayav the thirty four year old
from Russia who is twenty three zero to one, but
did have that draw against Andre Harrison in twenty nineteen,
followed up with a TKO loss to Daniel Pineda that
was overturned when Paneda tested positive for a band substance

(56:29):
that became a no contest. Since then, though, you look
at the run overall that habulayav is on includes victories
by decision over Lance Palmer, Brendan Locke named Chris Wade
three of the biggest veterans of this weight class or
in and around this weight class. And then you can
further to his return after a two year break for
a what didn't he pop too, Luke? Is that why

(56:51):
he took off two years?

Speaker 3 (56:54):
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Yeah, failed drug test, so he was pulled from the
twenty twenty three season. But when he returned, he got
that split decision win over Jeremy Kennedy and an all
Action fight and followed it up with a split with
a unanimous decision over Kim ty Kwan. When you look
at this matchup, Luke, the red hot Pinato against the
solid hammer that this Russian is what are you looking.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
At, dude? Pinato is such a fun story. He had
a very you know, unremarkable and short run in UFC,
and even his first fight after that I think he
didn't win, but since then has been on an absolute
tear b See he is of the four fighters in

(57:38):
this one, so in the main and Comaine that Logan
Maveld and now Jesus. Jesus is by far the most
interesting I should say, no that's not quite right, but
the most dynamic. I mean, you might say Hybelia, but
he kind of eked across the finish line against Jeremy Kennedy,
a good fighter, but still like he I thought there
would be some separation between them. No, absolutely not. Meanwhile,

(58:01):
Pinato has just in contestably improved BC. I've just been
blown away by what he's done. Let me pull this
up just like sort of set the tone here if
I can for just a second. Haz's Panato coming to us,
by the way, just twenty nine years of age, and
yet he's already got you know, well into mid thirties fights.

(58:22):
But BC as indicated, you know, he lost to John
mcdesi in twenty nineteen in a very who hum kind
of way, tried to regain some things lost his first
bout against Gabriel Braga in PFL, but hasn't lost since
he stopped Brendan Locknane, famously the guy who Dana White
didn't want to give a contract to, went on to
win PFL, stops Bubba Jenkins, then stops Gabriel Braga. I

(58:42):
was at that event that was in DC the.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Tournament, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Then he goes against Adam Borich, who's a good fighter
out of kill. Cliff stops him inside a round. Then
they give him to they do the trilogy with Braga,
and then he stops him inside of two fucking minutes. Brother,
I am telling you, I am telling you, Jose excuse me.
Heyesus Pinato is a genuine kind of comeback story where

(59:09):
at the moment he had the most visibility, which was
his UFC time, he wasn't ready, clearly was not ready.
Now he's ready for his close up. And I honestly
think I rarely picks somebody from South America, particularly Spanish
speaking South America, over you know, someone from you know
who's got some kind of Russian last name, but I'm
gonna do it in this particular case. B See, I

(59:31):
think Panato is the guy to win this whole thing,
and I think Habalive is going to have a hard
time keeping up with him.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yeah, Panato is on fire. You mentioned those two fights
in the UFC in twenty eighteen and nineteen. You mentioned
the five straight stoppage wins, all against high level competition
that the PFL has to offer. And let's not forget
after winning that twenty twenty three PFL tournament, he missed
all of twenty twenty four with a back injury, pulled
out of two consecutive fights. So to come back from

(59:58):
that continue that streak. Stopping Bortch is no joke, and
he did so particularly violently in the first round, and then,
as you said, getting the another stoppage over Braka in
their trilogy to set this up, this is going to
be a good matchup. Hobalaya is bringing some really good
momentum of his own. Very very slight favorite is Panada.

(01:00:19):
I'm certainly back or Pnato. I'm certainly backing him here,
Long Island, Luke, where are you leaning in this matchup?

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
I gotta go Pinato as well.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
I mean, he's won the tournament before, he hasn't lost
since winning the tournament and he's won his last two
fights by first round knockout.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
I don't know if he gets the knockout.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
Here Luke mentioned that Hobbalaya of Jeremy Kennedy fight, Like
I thought Jeremy Kennedy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Won that fight for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
Now it's like, all right, he's arguably one in one
in this tournament run. Do we really trust him in
the final? I gotta go Pinato, probably by ko.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Honestly, Uh, after this, there's a bunch of other fights,
but I don't think they have any significance, am I right?
Luke Thomas right?

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Oh yeah no? The ones after that? Mean again, you
can make an argument that PFL has the best Maine
in Comaine. But after that, it's like, oh no, there
is one There is one fight that you should pay
attention to BC, if I may, it is hold on,
I'm trying to pull it up here. It is Jordan
Newman taking on Islam Abdul Basset. I don't care about

(01:01:17):
Abdul Basset all that much, but Jordan Newman, not human
is his nickname seven to zero, a Division two or
three wrestler. I'm not sure which one, but he looks
like a really interesting, fun prospect undefeated, keep an eye
on him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Indeed, good stuff right there. Let's go to the topic
number three as the discussion continues. After a TKO inspired
bill was created by bipartisan Congressmen looking to get it
voted upon this fall to amend the Ali Act and ultimately,
at least from this side of the opinion stance, really

(01:01:49):
open up the door for ZUFA Boxing and fellow UBOs
as it would, to come into boxing and essentially have
a UFC style rule in terms of the regulation, in
terms of so many different things. Well, what is our update.
One of the original architects of that two thousand Muhammad
Ali Boxing Reform Act, Pat English, a well respected attorney

(01:02:13):
in boxing, recently spoke out against the TKO proposed amendment
that's been introduced to Congress. Do you think, Luke, that
the boxing community is going to be moved by any
of this messaging? First, let's check out this statement by English,
and then we'll react to it. This is from a
tweet from Eric mcgracken, who, like John Nash, has also

(01:02:34):
been and Zach Arnold been on top of this story
as an individual. English said, who was heavily involved in
the drafting of the Professional Boxer Health and Safety Act
and the Muhammad Ali Act, and who has an extensive
boxing resume, I feel that I am uniquely qualified to
comment on the proposed amendment to the Acts. When John
McCain and his staff drafted the Acts, there was no
agenda but one. That agenda was to make boxing better, safer,

(01:02:59):
and more fair to boxers. There was no intent at
all to favor any single promotional entity. That is not
the case here. The clear intent is to favor a
single promotional entity. The bill was substantially drafted by lobbyists
for that entity to wit ZUFA and its various subdivisions.

(01:03:19):
End quote. And just to remind everybody, this was not
presented to the Fighter Committee that the Association of Boxing
Commissions as so they sort of somewhat sneakily went around
that in full support of it. Mike Mizzouli the head.
So we got a bunch of issues here, Luke. I
did listen to a lot of the content this week
that was great stuff, including Boxing Esquire podcast host there

(01:03:44):
Man I always forget my man's name in real time, Kert.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
M Hoff, thank you, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
And one thing em Hoff said about that two thousand
update to this act, which put Muhammad Ali's name on it,
was that it was almost exclusively created aimed at Don King,
who at that time was really doing some shady stuff
behind the scenes in an effort to try to become
not just the lead promoter in the sport, but almost
take over in his own soft monopolizing way. That's the

(01:04:10):
reason why that thing got shot down. So to see it,
all these years later get opened back up for one promotion,
it's definitely gonna ring alarm bells. What do you take
away from what pat English said right there?

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
So let me just say one other thing. We are
BC read you an excerpt of what he wrote, but
if you read the fuller statement, he actually goes item
and I mean like item by item, to be like,
this is what this new act, the Revival Act, is
stripping out, and this is what it was the original
one was intended to do. So like all the things

(01:04:43):
that are missing and all the things that are clearly
you know not on the I mean it's above board
in the sense that they're trying to use the legislative process,
But you know what are they trying to use the
legislative process for? So he goes. He itemizes in the
most specific ways the things that you know the act
would essentially cause you know what's missing from it. The

(01:05:03):
initial question that you asked me see is the more
interesting one, which is how is the boxing world receiving it?
And I definitely can detect that there is not necessarily
strong sympathy for TKO. There is a lot of consternation

(01:05:24):
about Dana White specifically getting involved in boxing. I see
a lot of people being like, you know, keep Dana
out or something like that. You know, he's become obviously
a target in that way, and you know a general
distrust of the UFC exploitation machine, Like I definitely have
seen that. However, I don't know what that's supposed to mean.

(01:05:44):
I mean, understand something. TKO is not asking boxing's approval
to do what they want to do, right, They're not
going to various gyms, they're not talking to trainers, they're
not doing any of that stuff being like, you know,
is this something we could get you on board with.
They're just doing it. And the people whose permission they

(01:06:05):
are asking is essentially Congress and Congress and know, we'll
see how the vote inevitably goes. But I think it
will probably go their way. Like they're not you know,
people being like, oh, if enough people in boxing make noise,
it will have an effect only if it affects the
voting down the line. But like, they're not interested in
getting boxing's approval, And if anybody who's watched them work

(01:06:29):
in MMA, whether it's you know, going to rebock gear
or any other decision that they've made, they don't. They
don't ask the opinions. They just do what the fuck
they want to do, and then everything else follows thereafter. So,
you know, is there enough coordinated resistance to affect how
the voting goes. It's too early to say. I suspect
probably not. The only thing I would, you know, ask

(01:06:51):
people to take a look at is, as somebody who
has lived in a very very very brief time, you know,
spend a little bit of time on Capitol Hill watching
how laws get made, you would have to have some
kind of coordinated resistance to really give yourself a chance
at stopping this, right, you'd have to have some kind
of activist group or some kind of an amare minimum

(01:07:12):
ad hoc group come together, and they would have to
do a lobbying strategy. They would have to do a
media strategy, they would have to have a Capitol Hill
strategy about which senators or congressman you're going to talk to,
and you know, and there's none of that. It doesn't exist.
Like only one group is doing that. It's the group
that's trying to change the law. So see, maybe you disagree.

(01:07:37):
I feel like I am definitely seeing verbal commitments to
or i should say, verbal concerns about what TKO is doing,
but in terms of pulling any of the levers that
are meaningful in getting them to stop, nobody's doing anything.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Yeah, I've been a little underwhelmed by, not just in
relation to this, but let's not forget it was March
fifth that the partnership between Turkey and Data was announced,
in which they straight up said like, we are going
to crush the competition. So even separate from the ALIAC change,
there's been nothing on a counterfront of saying like yourt

(01:08:19):
you're seting, your intentions are to block everyone else and
make yourself the entire sport. So yeah, I've seen, you know, instead,
I've seen these same people that are going to be
rivals of Turkey and Data or Turko, as some people
are now calling it, which is brilliant. They're still lining
up to get their Turkey money, which hasn't been great.
I am seeing, you know, the people you would expect

(01:08:40):
to have a soul in boxing stand up and speak
out against this. I've really been shocked at the lack
of mainstream media doing that, you know what I mean,
boxing scenes doing that. We're doing that. You know, We're
getting a lot of people out there, all those great
names I mentioned who are known for telling the truth
on these stories. But I've really been shocked this appointed
in seeing the mainstream media or even the mainstream combat

(01:09:05):
media really looking at this as well. It does say
it's going to help the sport in these certain ways,
and really not coming truthful with what this is. A
straight up attempt at monopolization, a straight up attempt to
say you can all still play by the old rules.
But as long as we as a UBO have our
own you know, performance facility, our own minimum drug testing,

(01:09:28):
our own this and that, and UFC has all of that,
then we're just going to operate without any of those
rules that protect the fighters, that provide the you know,
the the transparency of the financials. I really encourage everyone
to listen to Kurt Emoff's interview on John S Nash's
podcast where Kurt is a former boxer or a current
sorry still lawyer boxing manager, where he breaks down all

(01:09:50):
the specific areas as a manager in which he has
actually utilized the ALIAC to protect his fighters in key
situations for everyone who's knee jerk responses to say, well, yeah,
the ali Act doesn't actually enforce this or that, or
it really hasn't done this or that. I mean it
goes back to that that that thing you said on
MK once Luke about that I forgot what you called it,

(01:10:12):
but with the fence and you'remis and I thought that
was brilliant and the idea that it's obviously there for
a reason to present to prevent strong arm takeover, and
everyone's just sort of like, yeah, well it's inevitable, so
let's let him do it. I don't think it is inevitable.
I don't think it's automatic. Uh is the are the
scales tilted in favor of Turko because of the connection

(01:10:36):
to to uh Donald Trump? Ari Emmanuel's ability to really
play all sides and everything he does from politics to
business and always really have the upper hand or the
ace in his you know, on the sleeve. That certainly
helps them. But let's not forget the UFC just settled
a lawsuit for not taking care of their fighters. There's
a secondary lawsuit that could go to trial on that

(01:10:59):
same time. I can't see how people in good faith
can approve the UFC model in boxing when they're still
cleaning up crap from not taking care of their athletes previously,
and that this is just going to remove those protections
for the current boxers again, I just don't see it. Yeah,
you can overpay a ton of boxers up front to
bring them over to the Turko side, and you know

(01:11:21):
where you're either with us or against us. If you're
fighting for Turko, you're fighting for ZUFA or ring belts,
and you're not fighting against everyone else. I'm okay, it's
a free open market with Turkey, Dana, any of these
people coming into boxing. But these rules are slanted toward
them having the ability to wake up and be born
on third base and have full control of the sport

(01:11:42):
if they can get there with their financial control. How
is this fair of the fighters? How is this fair
to open business for everyone else? Luke I did have
an interesting guest on my Inside the Box podcast yesterday
on my YouTube channel with Raith Barbarollome, we welcome down
a longtime listener, Logan Dobson, who who is a lot
in DC and a boxing fan. And I thought it

(01:12:03):
was refreshing that he gave the other side to it.
How realistic this is of getting passed that the fact
that a lot of boxing fans, if you don't like this,
well you're just going to go back to that four
belt system that's corrupt and sucks anyway. And I hear that,
but this ain't it. This ain't the fix we need.
I hope more of boxing, including the fighters themselves, stand

(01:12:23):
up and say that. But if they can get big
turkey money in the short you know, in the short time,
they're not going to do that looke. You know that.
You know that?

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Yeah, I mean listen, you know that. We have a
video and if I don't know, if you want to
play it, me see from Oscar de la Hooya, and
he says a bunch of stuff in it that it's
quite truthful, but there's one thing he says that is
not I think the right thing. There's a couple of them,
but there's one that he says, you know, I don't
want to touch the ALI Act at all, And I'm like, yeah,
I do. Actually, I'm totally okay with changing it or

(01:12:52):
updating it. What I'm not okay with is gutting it.
What I'm not okay with is circumventing the most important parts.
What I'm totally okay with is making it better. But
you're right if the answer is, hey, it's TKO or
the status quo, Yeah, no, one likes the status quo.
That's that's the pitch that they're trying to make. It's

(01:13:14):
TKO or it's nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
No, it's not It's absolutely not that way at all.
They're just telling you that it is so they can
sell you a bunch of bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Yeah, not to mention, isn't it isn't the UFC system
illegal in this country? Look? I mean, shouldn't it be?

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Isn't it in boxing?

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
No? That what UFC has done in MMA in terms,
I know there's no ALI Act in MMA, but isn't
it like we're talking about taking the UFC plan and
bringing it to boxing. Isn't the UFC plan illegal? And
how it monopolizes and.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
And oh well, I mean, that's definitely. I mean, so
you know, a jury hasn't or a judge hasn't ruled
to that effect yet, if that's what you mean. But
Judge Bullwear has, the judge who was in charge of
the Class Act lawsuit, has absolutely been clear that they
used their market power that they had acquired from their

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monopoly to you know, engage in I don't call it
wage theft, but wage suppression among a number of other
harms all related to the market. Like there's it's I mean,
anybody who has looked at this with any kind of
advanced sense of economics or understanding of the law, they
all come to pretty unanimous conclusions, which is that this

(01:14:29):
is a monopoly and they use their monopoly power to
get ahead, and they're going to try and do it
in another industry. Like I mean, I've said this before, BC.
I cannot believe we're at the place where it's not
at all. I'm not guaranteeing this. It's really hard to
guarantee something like this, but it's at least worth considering
that in ten years you could have one promoter that

(01:14:50):
does boxing, mma, jiu jitsu, slap. I suppose you know,
and you know whatever else, like all of it comes
from one entity. Dude. That's like dystopian is shit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Yeah, you know, and that's what people want because well,
I've really enjoyed the UFC over the years. The best fight,
the best. Yeah, how happy are the fighters? I mean
it's interesting. Let's go to Oscar dale Hoya, who, of
course most Thursdays put out puts out his largely comedic
Clapback Thursday video in which he takes shots at He does.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
Not show his dong in this one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Yeah, no dong in this game. And we're not certainly
advocating for everything Oscar says in this video or in general.
Oscar's a wild man. He's all over the place, but
he's standing up for the sport. Right here. Let's watch
your favorite time of the week again.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Time for the only segment in boxing that gives you
the facts and makes you laugh.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
It's Clapback Thursdays.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
So it was reported last week that the TTO Group
is attempting to amend the Muhammad ali Act, and the
writing is on the wall.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Fighters beware.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
The ALIAC was put into place back in two thousand
to protect fighters by assuring them financial transparency. Contract fair
enough protecting them from other conflicts of interest, et.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
AKA, it protects fighters from being taken advantage of them.
The fifth and now, of course, as TKO prepares to
enter the boxing space, the first thing they want to
do is change this act and leave fighters vulnerable. TK
needs this to change so they can implement the exact
same unethical business tactics in boxing strictly business that they

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used to create a monopoly with the UFC.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Was this legal?

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Think about this? The UFC was sued by their own
fighters for this unethical shit. They recently settled on a
three hundred and seventy five million dollars antitrust lossuit absolutely
fucking not, overclaims they used illegal practices to suppress fighters' wages.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
You guys are getting paid and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Rival promoters, their own fighters sued them over this, and
after all that, they're coming to another and trying to
do the exact same fucking thing. Look always flaunting his
relationship with President Donald Trump and is very clearly banking
on this getting pushed through using that connection. So to

(01:17:16):
make things easy to understand, this new league, TKO is
planning on paying fighters whatever they want, which will likely
be pennies on the dollar based on the existing UFC model,
the same model that leaves their fighters in broken bodies
and empty bank accounts. The latest heartbreaking example is former

(01:17:37):
UFC fighter Ben Askrim, who needed a double lung transplant
and couldn't afford it, so he publicly had to ask
for help.

Speaker 8 (01:17:45):
None of these people, like Dana or anyone stepping in.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
This is exactly my point. They don't give a fuck
about boxing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Foolish found the name of this game.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
I'm not sure pism.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Or fighters are putting their lives on the line. They
care about their bottom line and their stock price.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
Agreed for lack of a better word is good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Scumbags will always be scumbags, and every move they make
is so fucking predictable.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Predictable.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
The aliact is there for a good reason. I've been
a promoter what for twenty four years now, and I've
never wanted one change in the ALIAC because I'm about
fairness and helping fighters. The fact that this is the
first move they want to make in boxing tells you
everything you need to know. TKO will lie and tell

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you it's better for everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
It's not a lie if you believe it this way and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Distract you by saying they were changing boxing and trying
to unify it. They're doing the opposite. They're just fucking
pigs with fucking lipstick. I'm telling you now, this is
a warning to all fighters.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Stop what you're doing and listen.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
There is zero reason to want to change the Muhammad
aliak whatsoever, and this is a huge red flag to
the entire boxing community. TKO remains tk NO. I remember, folks,
you never hated if you only speak the facts.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Now, Luke, you do have to throw out the disclaimer
that not everything he said there was one hundred percent accurate,
including him having this great reputation of being fair. There's
been a lot of fighters who.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Have also the the bet Ascar thing seems like a
little right exploit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
I mean, really, what I'm talking about that's not fully accurate.
But considering he dal la Hoya has a deal with
his own which is, you know, has a huge ornaments
ownership stake with Saudi and Turkey, and he populates Turkey's
cards with his fighters. To see him take this stance
is refreshing. Again. It's Oscar who also after Connor McGregor

(01:19:49):
turned down a shot to box Canelo sent that letter
to all boxing writers telling them to boycott Mayweather McGregor
because it was, you know, anti boxing. He's he's got
his own sins. But this specific stance seems right on.
It seems like a wake up call to those in boxing.
Who knows how that will affect it? Luke, what do
you make of to close on this? What do you

(01:20:10):
make of the idea that if this passes, if as
we assume up front, these boxers are gonna get paid
a lot more than UFC fighters, right, Like maybe you know,
in the long term, I expect UFC, especially or sorry,
I expect zoof of boxing, especially the younger fighters that
they bring in, will go through their system of low
payment and build up. But do you think once all

(01:20:33):
of these salaries get published, these purses, that there could
be any pushback from the UFC fighter base to like no,
so there's no hot water for them potentially in.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
There I saw Bob Air, I'm saying that, like, oh,
the UFC fighters are going to get really mad. The
UFC fighters are not going to do a fucking thing.
They will quietly shut their mouths and click their heels
and do nothing like there will be and The reason
why I know that is because at every opportunity and
covering fighter pay in the last fifteen plus years, that

(01:21:06):
is exactly what they have done. They'll quietly complain off
the record a million times to people like me or
any other media member. Yes, that's what they will do,
but what will they do in public? In public, they
will just do exactly what they are told, because that's
all they ever end up doing anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Yes, dude, But seriously, like the arrogance of TKO in
general on a lot of things they've been doing, but
specifically this, they're really testing their own UFC fighter base
in my opinion, Like they're blatantly doing this and saying,
what are you going to do about it? What are
they going to do about it? Dude?

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
We'll say, let's talk about that. Why if you're TKO,
why wouldn't you like what evidence? I mean, just just
think about what TKO is. Oh, you're getting arrogant here
and there, and they're and they're risking it. I'd make
if I was a TKO, if I was if I
was an executive with them, I'd make the exact same
bet they're making. I'm not messing. I would like their
life in that way. But I'm saying forced to you know,

(01:22:03):
you know it is TKO making a rational bet about
what kind of resistance they'll get from their fighters. Yes,
they know they won't do shit. They know it, they
absolutely know it, and they're right they won't. They won't
do a fucking thing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Unbelievable times. We're in unbelievable I still believe in good.
So until this thing signed and push through, I gotta
believe there's resistance out there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
I have. I have terrible news for you. It's going
to pass and it's gonna be the letter of the
law for probably a long time until uh, some future
administration maybe considers it for breakup. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
The more that you believe it's a closed case, that
it's already happened, the more you're fueling them. Look, I
don't believe, all.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Right, I don't think. I don't think. My it's not
even pessimism. It's just again, dude, there's no coordinated resistance.
I know how laws get passed. If you don't have
coordinated resistance, you're gonna get run over. It's just how
it goes. You gotta play fucking defense. And not even
that you got to play offense. Who's doing that? Nobody

(01:23:11):
it's over, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
It ain't over till it's over. You know, some people
on this show said we would never win.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Those awards, look right, and we did and then we
got nominated even when we shouldn't have. But yeah, the story.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
It's probably maybe we only got them because of our
aggressive fan base. But shout out to those people just
the same. Let's go to topic number four. Connor McGregor
back in the news because he was back in court
losing his appeal of being held liable for sexual assault
in the civil Nikita hand case. McGregor wasn't even in
attendance for this appeal after three judges unanimously ruled against him.

(01:23:47):
What happened to this case and the promise of the
fresh evidence that was not emitted not presented to court
after that couple turned their back, Luke? And what does
where does that leave this case going forward? As McGregor
takes another very public l and will now have to
pay the legal fees upwards of two million for Nikita hand.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Yeah, so it's more than that we found out today
than Nike to hand. As you indicated, first of all,
I want to be clear, but I've seen this weird
narrative that like Connor didn't get a chance to do
this or didn't get a chance to do that, and
it's like he got every opportunity that the Irish legal
system would provide someone in his circumstance, and he keeps
getting his ass handed to him. That's not the same

(01:24:30):
thing as like, oh, I didn't get an opportunity versus
you got a precursor opportunity that you manifestly could not
qualify for, and then everything downstream after that didn't come
your way. I mean, it's just so weird to me.
It's like they keep giving him opportunities to do things
and he keeps not having the ability to do it.
This appeal is chief among them, which is, as you indicated,

(01:24:52):
there was two basic grounds that they were arguing yesterday,
or at least trying to argue. One was initially going
to be Hey, So so I understand what happened, Right,
Nikita hand goes and checks in on the night of
December eighth, or them the December ninth, whatever the day was,
and she's covered according to the intake nurse at the
rape crisis center in the hospital facility that Nikita Hand

(01:25:14):
is like absolutely covered in bruises head to toe, some
of the worst bruisings she said she'd ever seen in
her life. And this is somebody who works in you know,
trauma centers, right, and so there has to be a
theory of how that got there. And Nikita Hand and
her team they alleged that Connor Brigregor sexually assaulted her
in a hotel and that during the course of this
that she was you know, physically assaulted beyond the sexual
assault itself, and that accounts for the bruising during the

(01:25:37):
initial trial itself or the hearing I or whatever you want
to call it'm' s where the proper designation is. And
again it's a civil matter, not a criminal one. But
Connor's team tried to argue that, you know, she went
on a vender and who knows how she got it, which,
of course we see, yes, people who go on vendors
have like disheveled and fucked up appearances, but not the
kind of like medically serious and very highly specific bruising

(01:25:58):
that she had. And so they basically the basic reality
is that Connor's team had no theory for how she
got that. That, among other reasons, I think is why
they ultimately decided with Nikey to hand. So for the appeal,
it was two different grounds. One was he was initially
going to have this couple who claimed to have seen
or heard Nikita Han's boyfriend at the time physically assault her.

(01:26:19):
They at the very last minute with drew their evidence
to the point where now the court has referred the
matter to investigators to see if you know the laws
followed there yeah, a perjury or more potentially. And then
on top of it, he tried to argue on procedural
grounds that you know, essentially the judge in the first

(01:26:40):
case did not make it clear to the jury about
whether it was assault or sexual assault in terms of
what they were adjudicating, which all three members of this
appellate court were like, this is a ludicrous charge and
they threw it out, didn't take it seriously at all.
So again he was supposed to introduce fresh evidence and
had the opportunity to do so in this appeal and
could not do it. So where does it stand. As

(01:27:01):
you indicated, not only does the Kedahn win this one,
so now she's two and zero against him, but more
to the point, he has to pay her legal fees,
which were two million euro But the latest update is
that as of this morning, she's now suing McGregor again,
and she's suing the two people who had claimed to
have heard her been assaulted by her then boyfriend, which

(01:27:24):
again has gone up in smoke. She's now suing all
three of them for damages. And I guess part of
it might be that again I've been seen exactly what
she's claiming, but I believe what she is claiming is
partly that they're the legal process that they tried to use.
They used it in you know, in either an illegal
or unethical way. I mean again, I'm not exactly sure

(01:27:44):
how that goes, but you know that that whole thing,
and you know she I mean, there's every reason to
believe that she will win. Like every time Connor has
a chance to introduce evidence according to the core system,
he can't or he does and it's unpersuasive, so he
could appeal to the Supreme Court of Ireland or their
version of it. From what I read, most legal experts

(01:28:07):
believe that it really won't happen, which means the case
is now over. But for this now Nikita hand introducing
this new lawsuit to go after them for I think,
you know, maliciously abusing the court system and the legal
process to cause further trauma in a way that they
knew to be unethical and without any you know, actual
evidence at any point of bad faiths, you know, attempt

(01:28:29):
to hijack the legal system.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
I mean, maybe he can just become Irish president and
then pardon himself.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
Luke, I've seen yeah. I mean, this is my question
to everybody. It's like, dude, I mean, you know, at
what point are we ready to cut him loose? You
know what I mean? And I know what the answer is, Well,
they need headliners and fans still like him, And I'm like,
first of all, why, like why he's not relevant as
a fighter and as a person he appears to be
really close to irredeemable and more to the point, like

(01:28:56):
my question is like, if you're not ready to cut
him loose, how much further we talk going to be
seen further? How much further is it? I don't know,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
Let's let's listen to Niky hand statement to the media
outside to put a ball on this to begin by
tank League team, Great Place Center, the Tree jor this
huge delivered decision today.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
I'm also do you think grateful for anyone who support me,
don't who believe to me and still by my son
side to this long pay for just appear has.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
Three pomat like me over and over again.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
It's force to relive it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
What happens has had a huge impact on me to
ever survive, right, dear, I know how hard it is,
but please don't be silent.

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
You deserve to be heard.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
You also deserve justice.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Today I can finally move on. I'm trying to feel
thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
McGregor.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
It has it seems to be comprehensively vindicator challenge.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
It's kind of hard to hear there, but she would
say that that this uh, you know, re litigating this,
going back into the appeal brought back the trauma you know,
all over again for her and she's speaking out for
other their victims. Man, yeah, oh, how the mighty have fallen?
And you know, and people have made those same comments
like when Hogan died Olk Hogan died recently and a

(01:30:10):
lot of people came out and was like, good riddance
pos And everyone's like, is this the right reaction? And
we all sort of have mixed feelings. We tend to
forgive certain people or they evolve over time, like Mike
Tyson and we I don't know, like it is interesting
how from one to the other we have certain reactions.
But Connor has been on such a negative run for

(01:30:31):
so long that it's like, damn, I mean, outside of
like being a pretty good, out of control, drugged up
promoter with BKFC, what has he added lately, Luke, what
is he doing positively? It's it's pretty rough, it is
it is, you know, if not vert on the verge
of or already long past the type of go home
heat where it's like I just don't want to see

(01:30:51):
him around anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
But I just think it just makes mm A look
bad when they can't say goodbye to guys like this.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
You know, well, he's not going way. He's back in
the pool, he's training again, meeting the drug test pool,
and you know, if it's up to him, he's gonna
be fighting on the White House lawn, Luke.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
And if it's up he's probably right. I just think
that the community, it's like, I don't really know, I
genuinely mean this, I don't know what you're holding onto anymore.
He's both not good and also bad. Like what what
you know? What's the appeal?

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Yeah? That is interesting? That was Topic number four. Will
close this week with a fun Luke and Thomas inspired
topic that I had a lot of difficulty with. I
think that speaks a lot of who I am lately, Luke.
But here it is. It's not fit Friday, not rip
it Friday. It's free style Friday. Right because you know,
we ain't got shit to do right now. So Luke,

(01:31:44):
why don't you start tell us one thing going on
in your life right now that's important to you and
has nothing to do with combat sports.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
So let's put up the graphic or not the thing
I sent you along Island. Here it is. Los Angeles
no longer ranks as worse US city for traffic, and
if you look below, Washington, d C. Has overtaken Los
Angeles as the US city with the worst traffic in
annual rankings from Consumer Affairs. Now. I don't know what
the Department of Highway Transportation and Safety would say, it's

(01:32:16):
something like that, but dude, driving in the city is
terrible now. It's like it's always been bad, but it's
really really, really, really bad, to the point where It's
like genuinely fucking up my mental health because to get
across town for a doctor's appointment or you know, to
go to the grocery store or anything. You know. Again,
I could go to the I can go to the

(01:32:37):
dentist by day. I just take the Metro. But if
I got to take groceries, I need you know what
I mean, I just can't. I can't walk it. I need.
I need to get a car, so I can, you know,
load it up. I gotta feed a family, so BC,
I made a choice. I made a choice this weekend.
Assuming I don't die of complications related to you know,

(01:32:58):
this communicable disease that I have. Uh, I'm gonna go
get an e bike. I'm gonna make that. Yeah, I'm
gonna make that leap, and I'm gonna use my e
bike to get around town for my mental freaking sanity.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
Are you gonna wear like boys shorts while you e
bike around?

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
Luke, I'm gonna wear dad shorts, cargo shorts, beef jerky,
you know, sandals. I don't have sandals, but you know,
I'm not gonna give a fuck. But dude, I can't
take it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
In La La Is just like, it's just unbelievable. I mean,
so South Florida, that's some really bad traffic too.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Now Florida has surprisingly bad traffic, but dude, like, even
from getting from here to my kids school, my house
in my kids school is a mile away, and if
you don't play it right, there are three different bottlenecks
you'll run into and it drives me nuts. In the morning,
I can't do it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
Drives me nuts, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
So anyway, I'm gonna I'm gonna get an e bike
this weekend, and I'm pretty excited about it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
All right, all right, Luke. I had a big problem
with this because it made me really look in the
mirror and say that outside of combat sports and my
ambitious lust for boxing broadcasting, I've really painted myself into
a corner no pun intended, due to my painting side
hobby of really being all about the job in the
fight game and nothing else. Lately, it's actually a topic

(01:34:18):
of conversation between my wife and I, leading me to like, man,
I need more hobbies in life. I need to live
my life more, not just the professional life I do
in podcasting or in calling fights and writing and all
of that, So I actually had some trouble with this.
But one thing I've been thrown around for a while
is the idea of really going all in on my

(01:34:39):
music passions and creating a music podcast, potentially even with
Aaron Brons that are as my co host. So I'm
certainly exploring that possibility and potential right now. And I
got to say, this summer has been with my kids
on the verge, my twin sons on the verge of
their senior year in high school, coming up the college
tour scene, this summer has been I'm having way more

(01:34:59):
fun than they, Luke, because you already know I was
a community college and commuter for your school dropout, I
never got to actually live that experience. I'm pulling over
all these tour guides and being like, what's the party?
Seemed like I need details. I need information, all right.
I need to know if my kids are gonna thrive
here in all the world.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
We know they're sending out amber alerts after you leave campuses.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
All I'm saying is I mean, like, dude, like I
used to go party at Yukon in the nineties, back
when that was the kind of school that like, you
only went to because you had to. I had no
ideal until I went on the tour that because all
those basketball championships, that place has become like a world
class university where it's like incredibly hard to get into
and there's like new buildings everywhere. I was like, dude,
I'd go here in a heartbeat. In fact, if my

(01:35:44):
family was willing to allow me, I'd get a dorm
room and finish off my degree here, Luke and live
it up. You know what I'm saying. And probably I
just didn't handcuffs. You're right, probably, Okay, Yeah, I mean
it turned awkward. Are we going to stay in this ditch?
Or we're going to pull ourselves out? That's the question
Long Island. Look, why don't we bring you in here
to talk? As you uh so so uh effort fully

(01:36:06):
put in the uh the updated ufc APEX weigh in
scenarios below. Can you tell us something about your life
as the best boyfriend beyond the scope of combat or marijuana?

Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
M See, you got my two vices there. I don't
really know how to answer this. I do want to
say on this card this weekend, Rafael possibly half Ayel.

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
I'm not sure. I think he is Brazilian, so half
Ayel Estevan misweight by four pounds one thirty first flyweight about.
There's also four fighters besides him still waiting to weigh in,
so we'll see what happens with that, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:36:38):
I don't I don't got much going on. I'm I'm
also possible BC talking about starting a music podcast. Mine
is still MMA focused, but I'm going to start an
MMA trivia show. You guys are gonna be on it.
You don't know it yet, but you're gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
On it coming in.

Speaker 5 (01:36:52):
Yeah, So that'll be fun. But outside of the MMA scope, man,
I don't got much going on.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
I'm not going We need lives. We need lives. I
think we really need you know, Look, do you have
passions in life?

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
Yeah? Of course I do.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
I mean you are exercising those. The Luke Thomas political
podcast is on fire. Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
It's doing much better than I expected. I can certainly
say that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
All right, All right, okay, I'm you know what I'm
thinking of doing because my kids have inspired me with
their incredible success in cross country and track. And you know,
Loki porn I did run cross country in high school.
It's not forget this. I'm thinking about getting back in
aggressively the distance running all.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Right, because I only do.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
Porn, No, I only do things all or nothing in
my life. This is a repeated pattern of of a
lack of a balance, and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
You're gonna blow guys at the the truck stop.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Hey, I'm not the one with a sore throat here. Okay,
all right, I can these pipes are untouched, if you
know what I'm saying. Luke, all right, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
You've choked down many a glizzie, you sore throat having bastards.

Speaker 1 (01:37:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it. Uh yeah, you know.
I guess it's good to have, you know. I mean,
you know, you get you get so focused on the job,
you know what I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Saying, bro, Like, you have to have something you care
about beyond this ship. You have to just for your
own sanity, you know, as like a place to go to,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
Yeah, especially once if you're correct, the Ali Act passes
and Turko takes over all of combat. I'm gonna need
a lot of good hobbies outside there. You know, I'm
gonna be an empty nester in a year. My wife,
we're not gonna have to figure out if we like
each other. It's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
Wild, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
Again. I mean, once she finds out you're back to
blowing guys at the uh all right, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Luke your birthdays around the corner there, we'll be back there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
Is also partly why I'm doing the e bike because
my wife was like, you know what am I supposed
to get you for your birthday? And she would never
buy me like an e bike because you know, they're
a little on the expensive side. So I told her,
just you know, whatever you were gonna buy, save it,
throw it towards that and I'll pay for the rest.
But it's all related to my birthday. Actually, excellent.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
I just bought for my birthday. I bought myself new
headphones for my record player and a new damping weight
for my record player to keep those skips and scratches down.

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
Luke way that shit, I don't have a record player.
I need one.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
Yeah, I don't know if you're I'm going all or nothing.
If you're gonna go all in, then go all in.
But I feel like you would buy a record player,
put it on yourself, and then never use it ever.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
Gleg like that takeout food yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
Yes, there we go all right time. Those are our
five topics for this week. Thank you for playing. Now
we will close with two fan inspired segments, and remember,
if you want to reach this show, it's below. It's
Morning Coombat at gmail dot com. Mikey's on the other
end of that porthole. Tell him portal, tell him that
you said hi. Do not show him pictures of your

(01:39:46):
nether regions. Here we kick off with uh getting on
the stand so to speak. We speak into a microphone.
Often sometimes we say the wrong thing, whether it was offensive,
incorrect or just playing stu upid. That gives you the
chance to tell us we was dead.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
Wrong, dead wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
All right, Here we go dead wrong. First one from
Antoni Antoni says Oi Oi donks Gomez. Here is Antoni Gomez, longtime,
first time writing in from the Highlands of Scotland. Hey.
At one hour and forty seven minutes of Monday show.
Luke showed his ignorance when it comes to Europe when
describing the toilet situation. He first said we don't use

(01:40:35):
urinal cakes there, and then he said we put our
toilet paper in a trash can. As a Spanish Hungarian
British person who has lived in a few places in Europe,
I can tell you that's dead wrong. We have plenty
of urninal cakes here and the only place in Europe
I've seen toilet paper in a trash can was Greece.
But I've seen it in plenty of places outside Europe,
including North Africa and Southeastern Asian.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
It literally happened in Portugal. There was multiple signs and
multiple locations. This person is absolutely I would go and
bet on my fucking daughter, my house and my mom's existence. Sir,
you're so fucking wrong. It's painful to me. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
His name is Gomez, and he says you can do it.
Gomez says, Google tells me it's pretty common in South
America too. I expected more from such a credential, from
such a credential toilet wrecker as yourself. That's also see
the cake Lady do a urinal cake video just for
Luke Real soon muchos abrazos de vuestro collega upolod.

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
Yeah, big hugs. He's wrong. You're just flatly wrong, sir.
I mean I had to do it in Turkey, I
had to do it in Greece.

Speaker 1 (01:41:40):
And yeah, but Turkey's more Asia than Europe.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
Right, it's in both Turkeys, it is in both Asia
and Europe. It actually splits between them. Uh uh, it's
not every part of Portugal was like that, That's not
what I'm saying. But there absolutely were parts where it
was clearly mandated you had to do that. And also
the urinal cake thing. Guys, do you I mean I
I do you think we are blind? Like? Do you

(01:42:03):
think we just don't notice these things?

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
Have you been to a place in Europe that had
a urinal cake? Yes, but they are clearly, clearly much
less common. It's just not nearly as common. You've got
way more flies, and y'all put piss on top of
piss on top of piss. We have more of the
decency to have a urinal cake, which probably fucks up
the water supply system. I don't know. But either way,

(01:42:28):
when you're there BC, it's better to have a urinal cake,
is it not? It's just it is.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
But why are we debating this? Like who cans?

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
Is the Europeans being like, Oh, it's not that way,
Shut the fuck up. Yes it is. I've been to
Europe fifty times. I'm telling you it's common. It's common.
It's common. Not everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
You better travel the globemar to get on Luke's level.

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
You also right about South America. You will see it
there too.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Yes, breaking news from Long Island. Luke at the UFC
apex Way ands Tray Shawn Gore miss wait at the
middleweight limit by three and a half pounds one eighty
nine point five.

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
So oh yeah, And as you mentioned, Hafiel Stevam or
Raphael Stevon at one thirty already. Well, these motherfuckers aren't
missing weight. They're blowing right past it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Yeah they are. They are. All right, Let's keep the
dead wrongs coming. You better come clean, you better come original.
This one's from mister c. He calls himself the informal Dictator.
He says, deare Morning Combat. At one o eight forty
eight of Monday Show, Luke Thomas said that heavyweight Butcha
had beaten flyweight Amir al Basi. If this isn't a
dead wrong, then send me the clip of that beat

(01:43:34):
down because I'd love to see it. Humble regards you
pulling the shop here. You're talking about uh, you're talking
to me.

Speaker 4 (01:43:41):
I remember this in real time. You meant to say,
Amir Ali Akbari bari.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
That's he did in his last one fight.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
Yes, yes, all right, this wasn't like Pantosia knocked out mahachav. Right,
there's one watching like.

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
I don't think it's quite like that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
Okay, Well, mister C was just to say, oh, look,
go for two to start the show.

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
According to the no no, no, no, one for two,
one for two.

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
We got two more of these dead wrongs here, Sam,
he says, Hi, guys or maybe she who knows. On
Monday's July twenty ninth show, Luke made two big mistakes
with regards to names. At the beginning of the show,
he called Daniel Dubois Diego Dubois, and towards the end
he referenced you Bank versus Ben as Bank and you Ben.

(01:44:25):
If these were Spanish names and BC had gotten them wrong,
Luke's Espanol arm would have sounded and he would have
gone Third World on him.

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
Okay, I got some ct issues apparently, yes, Bob.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
But Luke, what Sam would say? I think you should
put some respect on the gringo names. You washed, watermelon, vaping,
yellow mustard eating, front yard lifting, stand up wiping, Joe BRONI, wow.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
Yeah, listen, you got to stand up in Europe because
you got to find the toilet, you know, and then
the trash can.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
But it's these people coming for you, well deserved, by
the way.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
Calling Daniel Dubois diego Dublas is like a very Daniel
Dubois thing to do.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
Yes, yeah, I don't. I guess I didn't hear these
in real time. Here's the thing lately, everyone in my
life's telling me I don't listen or remember anything.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
I get the same accusation. So we're probably in the
same boat.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
I think there's too much concern in my head. I
gotta pay for college. Tr Ko is trying to take over.
I don't have any hobbies, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:45:25):
Yeah, midlife crisis, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Yeah, yeah, I've been there. I am there. Let's go
to Patrick, he says. On Monday July fourteenth, BC's room
Temperature IQ was on full display Derek Lewis's accusation that
Tieshero was talking shit in Brazilian. However, Brazilian speak put
you get yeah, always thanks for the great content and
go fuck yourselves. It's Patrick.

Speaker 3 (01:45:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
Yes, I do understand that they speak Portuguese.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
By the way, in my town growing up, Naugata, Connecticut,
which had is a very not as big as Danbury, Connecticut,
but a very large Portuguese influence, they hated Brazilians, the
Portuguese in my town growing up.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
There are a lot of Brazilians in Portugal, which you
could well imagine everyone seemed to get along. But I
don't know, brother, the Portuguese that you grew up with,
I gotta tell you, they seemed to make I don't
know if they left Portugal or they got kicked out,
because they don't remind me of anything that I saw there.
The Portuguese were friendly, smart, calm, sophisticated friendly. I mean

(01:46:29):
everything you're telling me they were is the opposite of that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
All right, That's what that was my experience. But I
also grew up in a durable factory town, so I
think they were also affected by that just the same.
I mean, like I always say it, but it's true.
Do you know how many highly connected people like town
officials in my town were that shit crazy when I
was growing up. Just you know, talk about something in

(01:46:53):
the water, Luke. They literally pumped chemicals into the Naugatuck
river that goes through the center of my hometown for
like three days aids in a row. You're damn right,
we grew up looking at the world a little differently.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
You have aids.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
All right, Let's go over to our final segment. That's
where you send in your artwork or pictures of Saoul's
wife wearing MK clothes. Hey, this one's called fans emissions.

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
You've got Mayl Fures.

Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
Speaking of the one and only saoul A of Louisville.
He's hair and he says, on a random Tuesday, my
wife asked, would you rather take me to the movies
or a show? You know I love live music, Bee,
So the wife and I went to see Sugar Ray
and Bare Naked Ladies at an amphitheater. It was awesome.
You could just feel the effort they put into the show.

(01:47:45):
Brought me back to a much simpler time, all the
while rocking the best merch around MK. All Frickin' day. Wow, dude, Sooul.
I mean, first of all, I love the fact that
he takes us with them wherever he goes in life
and keeps showing us here on fan subs. But this
mf Or Luke lives for this brand.

Speaker 3 (01:48:08):
Bro As somebody who lived through the nineties, it is
mind blowing to me to watch the people of the
earth today treat the nineties as like a hollowed moment
to be remembered when let me assure you, everyone during
the nineties was ready to get the fuck out of
the nineties as soon as they could.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
Yeah, but it wasn't as lame as the eighties in
some regarded I mean the eighties was.

Speaker 3 (01:48:31):
The eighties were treated with more reverence. I'm sorry. They
were well.

Speaker 1 (01:48:34):
Because we had more money, everybody was happy, Reaganomics, all
of that. But the nineties were more scattered, and I mean,
like the whole idea of like melancholy and the infinite sadness,
like that's what we endured day to day. Luke, it
was a rough time in that regard, but the music rocked, Brot.

Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
We didn't know how good we had it. But yes,
the music's wife knows how good they have it. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
Shout out to that concert scene. I mean, are you
ready to maybe consider we get some soul mercher No,
that's too far. Fuck no, all right, so we'll up
standing up for you. Thank you, brother, if you can
come clean my gutters too and fix them, that'd be
great because there there, when it rains, it's just like leaking.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
Through it something else.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
Okay, Okay, that's unacceptable right there. Our next fan sub
comes from Christian. He says, hey, MK, I am lucky
that I live only a couple of minutes from the
franz Halls franz Halls Museum in Harlem. He was one
of the most groundbreaking painters from the Dutch Golden Age.
What puzzles me though, is why and how did he

(01:49:44):
manage to paint BC? Did BC find the flux capacitor Looke?
That don't look like me?

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
Um, it mostly doesn't. I could sort of see what
they're getting at, but you definitely don't look like Dutch
aristotleocracy I can I can say that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:01):
All right. I mean I have taken part in the
Dutch of it at least once or twice. But uh,
I mean that was it art? Was it art? Luke?
You'll have to ask the females that were trapped, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's really weird, all right.
Our next one's from r J. I don't think it's
our former merch guy, though, Luke, But let's check out
this photo. Hey, are we not allowed to have friends

(01:50:22):
in this industry?

Speaker 3 (01:50:23):
I mean, come on, a million friends you want to
have sex with. I don't know if that's exactly a.

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
Friend incorrect rumor? I mean, Luke, Finally we get Okamoto
on the show and you're not there.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
You know, Yeah, you couldn't have been happier subbing out
me for him that you You must have had a
voter from here to Hanover.

Speaker 1 (01:50:40):
Great guy. Also, he brought his son on the show,
Young Cam too, you know what I mean, told stories
about selling his house to Francis and Gonald. You should
have been there. It was great.

Speaker 4 (01:50:48):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
Hey, let's hear from Lazy Bed. We know that guy.
He's from Just Bleed Radio, he says. My guys, with
all the controversy and cutbacks hitting the MMA world lately,
I was pleasantly surprised to CEMK is not only carrying
on but also gaining new sponsors for the program despite
the show starting to resemble the UFC Octagon canvas. It's

(01:51:09):
great to see y all finally finding products you can
fully endorse. Ps. I made this just after lifting weights.
Please grade me on a curve. It's lazy bed, Luke,
what are you selling here?

Speaker 3 (01:51:21):
The zentos, pepto, and sialis. I don't need the cialis yet,
but I'm sure that's inevitable. But I definitely need the
pepto and Zeno's three margueritas.

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
Two inappropriate texts, one dong dumbbell. Wow, that is great stuff.
And look at that expression on your face, Luke. I'd
buy anything from that man, right, wow? All right. Also,
let's hear from Jonas. He's got a photo. What do
you got here, Jonas?

Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
Oh my god, Okay, this is endlessly disturbing.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
Oh my god. So that is for for our listeners.
For Aaron Brastedter, who's listening only right now. This is
Luke and the Cake Lady from France. Unlucky Luke and
Cake Lady on their way to the honeymoon. It says
till death the most part with the twin towers outside
the plane window. Oh my god, I.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
Mean this is the last show we're gonna do, right,
Like this is it? We peaked with Cake Lady nine
to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
Humor, dude, this is my favorite fan sub ever, Like
if we can make a I know we can't make
a picture of a poster out of this. But if
we can, if you long out, Luke, can I autograph
this poster and we'll just sell it as is?

Speaker 4 (01:52:29):
I mean, this is so good, right, yeah, we could
do that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
This is one of the best ones I've ever seen
that they've had, especially for AI.

Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
Dude, we gotta get Cake Lady on the show. But
the only thing is we'll be setting her up to
fail is that rude.

Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
Could I bring a crossbow?

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
Imagine if she is like, if she's like pulling out
body parts, We're like, oh, we can't show nw toy
on there, and then she's like, you.

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
Know that'd be weird, right, you wanted to show her titties,
And I mean it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
Was an idea. It wasn't like sold with it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
I'm not like, it doesn't have to be that, but
you know, okay, Hey, Wes says.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
What if she wanted he'd be like, yeah, no problem,
you can.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
Make a make a fully out of that cake. Hey,
let's go to this thing from Joe from Wes. He
says one for BC. He'll get it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
Oh wow, yeah yeah, but you're not like, but your
cats are not Yankees fans though, right, no.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
They're not.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
But that is.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
But since Reggie Jackson my cat is known as mister October,
this is a mister October with Reggie wearing number forty
four in Reggie Jackson's Yankees uniform. Dude, that is amazing
and I want that on a T shirt.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
You can wear that while you hawk to Bredakamoto.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
Okay, all right, I'd go back to Yankee Stadium and
try to break my American League record for eight glizzies
outside the back door that time right before I walked
in eight consecutive glizzies. By the way, I try I
do that with a Reggie Jackson shirt on. You gotta
believe that. Wow stuff. One more from Sean who says
I saw Luke's new sponsorship the other day in DT Vancouver.

Speaker 4 (01:54:07):
Is this real?

Speaker 3 (01:54:09):
Is this ai?

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
So he he's saying that this is the the Grandville Tobacconist.
Is that a real? Is that a real business?

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
In you can't get this sign twenty four hours? Hey
do you need a bong at two thirty seven in
the morning, We got you covered. And then, by the way,
is it vape bow isers or isn't it vape boor isers?

Speaker 1 (01:54:31):
Should be vapor but they got snacks too, they got
disposable vapes. Dude, we got it. You got to become
the pitchman for them.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
I might have to assue them just to get some
money for using my likeness.

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
Or just get product from them. I mean, you know,
that's not bad.

Speaker 4 (01:54:45):
I I don't know if the logo is real, but
the place is real. I just google it. It is
a place in Vancouver.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
We'll have to ask Shaquille male Judy to check it
out for us, our MK correspondent there.

Speaker 3 (01:54:56):
You you talked to him. I don't want to have
to follow the breadcrumb trail of text.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
You don't want to have to retweet them afterwards. By
the way, you guys, you did a bit on his
show and you said like really nice things about me.
I don't deserve that, but they too. Those are fans
admissions and a reminder. You can reach our show at
Morningcombat at gmail dot com. You can complain, send ideas,
tell Luke to f off, or give your fan subs

(01:55:21):
and dead wrongs and what else we do I don't
know whatever. One final reminder, folks, all right, two actually
one that this fantastic episode of Morning Combat was brought
to you by DraftKings and of course DraftKings, The Crown
is Yours, and two August MK Merch exclusives have hit.

(01:55:41):
Whether you're looking for the MK Beavis and butt Head shirt,
the Vaping is for Closer shirt, or the autographed super
Wash Dad's poster, all three are here until they're gone
for the month of August. Check it out right now
at Morningcombat dot shop. We also will have evergreen items there,

(01:56:02):
including a new one MK Boyfriend of the aar t
shirt sponsored by Luke Nosita's relationship. So definitely some stuff
to check out. As we say, buying MK Merch is
the best way you can support this show. The money
goes directly the lt L, I L and BC, so
thank you very very much, Luke. This wasn't quite quite

(01:56:23):
the flu game, but similar to that time when you
spent the night at Bacis Hospital in Norwich, Connecticut almost
dying with Matt Snyder and I there in attendance, and
then showed up the next day to do that Bellatore
interview roulette that we had that was Jordan flu game.
Like today, you just had a couple dongs in your throat.

(01:56:43):
You had to clear it out. Maybe gargle a little
bit back.

Speaker 3 (01:56:46):
It was the Charlo doubleheader pay per view, was it?

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
I thought it was that interview show we did the
next day.

Speaker 3 (01:56:53):
No, I remember thinking like, oh my god, I have
to go to the hospital the night before my big
break in boxing. I remember thinking like, you're a fuckingdi at, Luke.
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
Oh, all right, well, I take that back. Okay. We
we had some fun times in that Belotore bubble, did
we not?

Speaker 3 (01:57:06):
We did? We did. Connecticut sucks and Mohegan sun is.

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
It's all right, it's all right, but that side of
the state blows. Nobody goes there for any reason.

Speaker 4 (01:57:15):
Luke.

Speaker 3 (01:57:15):
I'm not sure which side of the state is great, but.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
You've never been to my side of the state. There's
the Connecticut River splits the state. On the west side
is where it's happening. On the right side is h
It's only people only go there for the casino. It's
called the quiet corner of the state. No one goes
there at all ever.

Speaker 3 (01:57:32):
Yeah, also me, I also won't go there, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:57:36):
Yeah, but that's where you went that time. Remember we
went to that weird Belator interview show in the basement
of like that Motel six.

Speaker 3 (01:57:41):
That was weird. It was cool because the whole floor
smelled like pool chlorine.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
That was the show where I was drinking water and
spit it all over myself over some ridiculous joke. All right,
thank you folks for watching today. We will be back
Monday in studio in Manhattan eleven am Eastern time. You
can file hellow us at the social handles below. Follow
our extended YouTube channels. Also like and subscribe. And I

(01:58:07):
don't know what we're gonna talk about on Monday, Luke,
after we recap Tatsuro Tyra against Young Jung Park Hung. Yeah,
I think that's how.

Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
I say it.

Speaker 3 (01:58:16):
We're gonna have to play games and do something on me.

Speaker 1 (01:58:19):
Maybe we'll drink the Devil's reserve and see who can
take more Delta's. What do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:58:24):
I like that plan?

Speaker 1 (01:58:25):
Yeah? I like that plane a lot too. For Luke Thomas,
I want to also say thank you to Luke Nocita.
Luke Nocita, do you have anything to say to the people?

Speaker 4 (01:58:35):
Join me tomorrow UFC Full Card watch along and join
Gaff tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:58:39):
He's doing a PFL watch along Big Fat Gene Guy
one more round fights if you want to tune into
Gaffs stream.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
Oh love gaff Pierre right there a great guy, have
met h wonderful stuff, Luke Thomas, any nice messages you
want to give to our fans, including j Piquette of
Mount Unike Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
Love you all. Thank you so much for watching. We
really appreciate it. But obviously I've got to take an
enormous and the show has come to an end. All right.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
Shout out to the Just Bleed radio guys. Brantendo, you
know what I'm saying. Two changs, all the boys, all right,
we love you, sandn go buy another whore. I mean,
I'm double that was one. I take that back, all right.
That was great for everyone on this show. Take care
of yourselves. We love you. We're out of here. Thank you,

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