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August 8, 2025 • 86 mins

It's Friday Donks and you know what that means...Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell are coming at you with your pre-weekend dose of Morning Kombat!

LT and BC start with a UFC Apex preview of Roman Dolidze vs. Anthony Hernandez.

Also, Dricus du Plessis and Khamzat Chimaev are making media rounds ahead of UFC 319. We're gearing up for one of the most anticipated UFC matchups in recent memory.

Plus, The Association of Boxing Commissions held their 37th annual conference this week where the language regarding MMA judging was overhauled to more accurately reflect the current practices, particularly as it related to DAMAGE. The fellas discuss this and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Really look at this now, timpted.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Jesus.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh do you want about.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Using?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
It's time to bed.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Oh yeah, you are looking live at Luke's bed. Hey,
what's going on? It's Morning Combat. You're watching this on Friday,
August date, twenty twenty five, and it's still the best
damn combat sports show of all time, even though it's
not live today. Luke Thomas having a little holiday, so
we're shooting a little bit early. But Brian Campbell live

(00:59):
and from the CT suburbs. Luke, you got a rock
lobster face. What are you in an Airbnb? How the
damn hell are you?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I'm good, Yes, I have a rock lobster face. As
you can see, this is the airbnb that I am renting.
Behind me, I am taking Twuster to dub Beach and uh,
we're having a great time I have. It may not
look like it, but I actually did wear sunscreen. I've
just I've just been drinking. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh so it's just an intoxicated episode. I got a
little coffee right here to stay alive. What about you?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
No, no, no, no, no, I'm not intoxicated at all. I had
I had two beers at the beach and that was
at noon and it's well past that.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
So yeah, you've already pissed that out aggressively. Yeah, there
you go. Well, we will have for you a little
bit of an abbreviated but still action pack show as
the new cycle continues to stay quiet this summer outside
of some other things. How about WWE on ESPN. That's
pretty hot right now, But we got a little for

(02:01):
you set in the stage for UFCAPEX this weekend. U
see three nineteen next week. They've been they've been churning
that butter old school style with some media activity going on.
Uh maybe we'll even hit some dead wrongs and fan
subs on the way out. Thank you so much for
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(02:24):
Shout out to everybody watching on the DraftKings Network. You
can follow us follow our extended YouTube channels. If your
audio only, tell a friend there in the grocery store
next to you how good this show is. My favorite
compliment is when people are like, yo, I was at
the gym and I had like, you know, one seventy
five up and then Luke talked about a Yeah that

(02:44):
that lady's vagine looked like sleeve of wizard and then
you know they almost died. Those are good moments.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I've never I've never gotten a DM like that. What
are people sending you happiness?

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Luke?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah? Yeah? Are you? Are you going to go to
a Who is the WNBA team that plays at the
Mohegan Sun, Connecticut?

Speaker 1 (03:04):
And right now?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
How many dildos are you taking to tonight's? Again?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
How good? And you they rested that one dude? They
finally found the guy behind it. So the Connecticut son
are currently up for sale. The Boston Celtics want to
buy it, but there's a counter group that want to
put in downtown Hartford. So we'll see what happens there
with those ladies. Luke, I want to remind everybody of
that today's episode of Morning Combat is presented by DraftKings,

(03:30):
and of course, with DraftKings, the crown is yours. Thank
you so much, Luke. What are you as a beach dad?
Do you do you make the sand castles happen? Are
you going in the water like in the actual ocean?
What's happening?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Brother? My wife had to work today even though we're
here My wife had to work today, so Daddy did everything.
I put everything in the suv. I unloaded everything. You know.
I bailer was with me, but you know she's a
little bit limited in mobility and what she can carry.
I set up the tent I put on. I had
to carry the little the cart that has all the

(04:05):
stuff in it. I built five sand castles today. I
had to go snorkily with my daughter and we got
into the water and did you know, riding the waves
and boogie boarding. I had a teacher had a boogey board.
You can see. The reason I looked like a rock
lobster is because I've been trying to win Dad of
the Year today. I don't know if I got it,
but I made a good faith effort at it.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well done, well done dragging that cart around. What's the
cart's name, Hannah?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
What's the joke there?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Cart to Hannah Club? Sorry, it's a play. I am sorry.
In my house, people are always like, oh, can you
grab the scissors there in the bin? I'm like, which
bin loden? You know?

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Okay, yeah, yeah, the bin lod and bit no, no, no,
I got well, you know you know those like little
like wagons you can pull that, you can put stuff
in you know.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, yeah, there you go. Sorry, no more dad jokes.
Say hey, let's bring in the third member of our team.
He's a He's not a writer at all. He's a producer,
a technical director, a bong enthusiast. He comes to us
by way of an Australian man's horned up abilities. It
is Long Island main card limp Mian at Luke Nosita.
How the hell are you, bro hand?

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I'm good.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
You said no more dad jokes.

Speaker 7 (05:12):
So I thought I wasn't gonna get the old horned
up balls the intro there.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
But guys, another APEX card this weekend. I'm hyped for it.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
How about you?

Speaker 1 (05:21):
I'm pretty hype. Actually, I'm pretty hip for that Damn
Mayne event. I'm all fluffed up over here. What do
you guys think? Or what about you? Lt What do
you think this WWE on ESPN News means for UFC.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
I'm gonna be honest here for just a second. I
guess I just don't totally understand the significance of the
ESPN ww E News. Can you break it down for me?

Speaker 7 (05:44):
Like?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Why why is it so important?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Well, they're getting essentially upwards of three times the amount
of money they were getting from Peacock NBC for their
pl e s, which is their you know, once a
month pay per views. And I just believe that, uh
in some way. I mean, look, it's it's a continuation
of TKO just spreading their tentacles across combat sports on
basically every single network. And there are a lot of

(06:09):
people that believe that this sets the stage, without question
for UFC to come back on ESPN. So still a
lot of people in boxing and MMA are waiting to
see where the UFC goes so then they can figure
it out. But it was surprising that that this WWE
deal stuck it, you know, snuck in there before it.
But uh, whatever kind of interesting stuff right there.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
So, I mean, the the everything I've heard, everything that
you have read that is public has kind of indicated
that we're going to get some sort of Netflix ESPN split,
with ESPN carrying the bulk of the inventory, not the
exclusive amount of the bulk of it. And I don't
I mean, I realized that they're you know, zach Arni

(06:51):
or the MMA draw has kind of intimated that maybe
Paramount might be in the mix as like a late addition.
My feeling is that they're being included BC, probably to
drive up the price a little bit. Maybe ZUFA Boxing
ends up on there, but I think it's gonna be
what we always have been expecting, some combination of Netflix
and ESPN for UFC.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Gone are the ANGRYBC columns from cbssports dot com against
d Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
They didn't renew my contract right on time. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
We go, But hey, shout out to TK make that
money player.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Oh I want to be clear. I want to be clear.
CBS always took good care of me. I have no
animosity whatsoever. They were a great company to work for.
If you get a chance to do it, please do so.

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I'm a very happy employee with CBS paramount, no question
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Yeah?

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Speaker 3 (08:16):
All Right, there we go.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Thank you so much. Okay, thank you.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
I'll leave that one alone.

Speaker 8 (08:22):
All right.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Hey, let's let's do this thing, all right? Topic number one.
This Saturday, the warehouse in Las Vegas known as the
ufc Apex will be back. We have a much better
card than last week, however, and a middleweight man event
that I feel like you need to see a pair
of streaking one to eighty five ers will headline Saturday's
card as thirty seven year old Roman Delize puts his

(08:45):
three fight win streak to the test against a thirty
one year old Anthony Fluffy Hernandez, who has won seven
consecutive fights, including most recently against longtime rival Brendan Allen,
In a matchup between the number ten and number nine
wits in this which with the lead day being number nine. Luke,
what is the most intriguing aspect of this matchup stylistically,

(09:08):
as these two look to make a leap at least
for the winner close to this top five at one
eight five.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
It's gotta be well, I mean, it doesn't have to be.
My feeling is that the ground game here is really
the most interesting component to this fight in terms of
the style matchup. Now, there's other stakes that are involved
that actually make this fight kind of interesting, actually pretty interesting,
you know. Again, one of these questions is like, is
this a suitable main event for a UFC card? Does

(09:36):
it make sense for the apex putting those considerations aside,
and just for the present moment, are there interesting stakes
in this spout, no question about it. And in terms
of the style matchup itself, BC, I really think if
you just look at Anthony Hernandez, Fluffy Hernandez and the
way in which his career has gone more recently, it's
extremely impressive, but he doesn't get the job done typically

(09:58):
until the third round or later. Dalize has beaten better
guys and has better experience, and in fact, they both
have a common opponent in Kevin Holland and Kevin Holland
in twenty twenty beat Anthony Hernandez. Meanwhile, Roman Dalize just
ran over him. So something to be said for like
how much Anthony Hernandez's career started in a somewhat unheralded

(10:18):
way and now he's in a very different position. But
in terms of the fight itself, to me, it's gonna
be I think Roman Dealidze has good takedowns, good takedown defense.
He's got crafty submissions, and Anthony Hernandez he puts a
pace on you, but it takes a while before the
water starts boiling. It's not like, you know, not everyone
can be hams Out Jamiah. But the point I'm trying

(10:39):
to make is hams Out to Jamia from the word
go is shot out of a cannon. That's really not
the case with a guy like Anthony Hernandez. He takes
a little bit of time, and so to me, the
question is bc that third round demarcation line, what happens
after that? It's not like Dalidse is some kind of
guy who fades down the stretch.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
He used to be and he used to be a
yeah that didn't have the most.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Personal so yes, yes, but I think more recently that's
really not exactly been the case now, Is he as
potent in round five as round one? No? And I
think that's kind of the difference because Hernandez is on
you like White on rice in round numbers four and five,
even round three up to that point. And so it
becomes a really interesting test. What does the leads they

(11:22):
have left, given what I think for Hernandez is going
to put on him as the fight goes along. However,
does the leads put enough on him early on such
that a he can't win enough rounds or he's so
beaten down and demolished that even if he manages to
rally to some extent, it's just not enough.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
I have to agree with you right there. They've both
gone five rounds, two times each. For Anthony Hernandez, that
was his first meeting with Brendan Allen on the regional
scene and two fights ago a TKO victory in that
fifth round against Michelle Padeda Ainco the full five, but
he came close. And for Roman Deledze it was his
majority decision loss to naserdine Imovov in twenty twenty four,

(12:03):
and most recently March of this year, when he took
a five round decision from Marvin Vittori in their rematch.
You did mention Vittori's got better experience, He's beaten better guys,
even if his win streak isn't as long. I don't
know if I'm as worried about him being thirty seven.
He's kind of sort of coming to his into his
own of late in this three fight win streak. But

(12:23):
despite establishing that with the Lids having better experience and
better wins, he's a plus two point fifty underdog according
to DraftKings, where Anthony Hernandez minus three ten. Uh luke?
Does that make sense to you given the streaks they're
both on coming into here?

Speaker 3 (12:41):
If you just look at like who they beat, and
if I ask to you know, list, you know, for example,
give me their three best wins from either guy, you
might be like, well, I don't really get the odds
on this one, and I'm with you. B see the
fact that Delise is what at thirty six? Thirty seven? Again?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Whatever?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Seven? Yeah, thirty seven. I don't see that as necessary
disqualifying in ways that you might in other cases, especially
because it's middleweight and you know, we're not dealing with
a championship fight here. However, fluffy to me, the whole
story is fluffy Hernandez, right, that's the story here. The
story is this guy was good to start, but limited

(13:17):
and somewhat under the radar, and he has slowly put
together not just a kind of impressive win streak, but
his game has come together. I think that, to me
is the interesting thing. It's not a guy who you know,
has gotten a little bit better, He's gotten a lot better.
He had the pieces of the game before, but they've
gelled now. It's like it's become a more cohesive call.

(13:40):
Like he understands how to fight for himself. He understands
what makes sense for him and has leaned into it heavy.
And honestly, I think he's a bad matchup for just
for all I'm not gonna say every middleweight, but you know,
he's a tough out at a bare minimum for every middleweight.
And I think he's a bad matchup for many of
the top fifteen and even the top ten, certainly potentially

(14:02):
even in the top five as well. I think that's
the kind of thing. He has rounded a corner in
a way that you know, I think Delieds has rounded
his own corner maybe a year or so ago year
or two ago, or at a bare minimum, the last
three fights have been something of a redemption arc anyway,
but that's not the same as what Hernandez has done.
Hernandez keeps impressing you, even when I know more recently

(14:23):
he had about obviously the I think it was the
last about where he was on antibiotics and he kind
of looked like shit early, and it took him a
little while to get going, you know, and then you know,
he didn't look necessarily like himself, and he still got
the job done. I mean, this is the point I'm making.
If this guy is healthy, I really believe BC. I'm
a lot of times I get on here and I'm like,

(14:44):
this guy's gonna fight for a title. I don't know
if Hernandez is gonna fight for a title, but I
will say this, I would not be the least bit
surprised A if this is his best win, and B
he does fight for a title at some point in
twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
That is interesting. Even though he's the beat, he is
the betting favorite. Fluffy Hernandez. I agree with you that
that this fight, the story of this fight centers a
little bit more around him, although when I look at
this fight, the story kind of centers around Cheyenne to me.
But that's another topic for another day. Hopefully Roman's not
watching Luke. I do remember, however, and maybe the answer

(15:19):
is the antibiotics. I remember when he did have last
time out Fluffy, the rematch with Brendan Allen, that while
we gave him praise for the win, there was this
feeling like maybe he's lacking a little bit extra oo
to be a finisher in this division.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Again, yes, that is real, and in fact I was
a little bit down on him before I learned that
antibiotics had really hurt him. Sure, so let me say this.
He does have He's not a natural finisher. He's not
a natural finisher. He's not like Habib, who everything he
did was to try and funnel you into a fight

(15:57):
ending scenario. To me, what Fluffy does is just try
and it's almost like a little bit like what Morob does.
I think, you know, a middleweight version of it, a
slightly different version of it where it's just labor, and
that labor he tends to ramp it up a little
bit more, I think, relative to what Morob does, which
is why he does get some finishes, you know, you know,

(16:18):
relatively speaking a little bit more regularly. But yes, it's
a fair criticism. He's not a dynamic or even natural finisher.
And the game he's put together can sometimes lead to
a finish, that's true, but it doesn't funnel the game
in that particular direction. And that could be something against
a guy like Delids, who's got wins at two oh five,
and it is big and strong, and again, as we mentioned,
a veteran, beaten, bitter guys in Fluffy Hernandez is beaten

(16:40):
at a bare minimum and very very strong for the
weight class. We'll see how that manifests itself on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, deleeds as strong as an ox, mean all those things.
Speaking of Fluffy, he sat down with Mike Bone of
MMA Junkie Fame and they talked about this, the fact
that a victory here would give Fluffy eight consecutive and
no UFC middleweight has ever won and not gone directly
into a title fight. Afterwards, let's listen in much more work.

Speaker 8 (17:05):
Do you think you really have to do? Because I
was just looking at the longest winning streaks that have
ever happened in the middleweight division, and no one has
had to win more than eight in a row before
getting a title shot, So if you have to fight
one more after this, it would be unprecedented.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 9 (17:19):
But I mean I'm ready for whatever, you know what
I mean. This game is crazy and I never you
never like know what to expect in this fucking this world,
you know what I mean, someone can get hurt and
you get called tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
So fuck who knows?

Speaker 8 (17:31):
The comments are? You know, Fluffy Fluffy like he's the
dark horse, He's the most underrated guy.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
He's gonna get that belt.

Speaker 8 (17:36):
Do you feel like, at least from like the fans
all that type of stuff, people are recognizing what you're
capable of than what you're doing out there.

Speaker 9 (17:43):
No, for sure, the fans have been fucking like I've
been seeing the same shit online getting tagged and stuff,
and like you're the dark horse, and I hope that
like a lot of people have been pissed that I'm
at the apex even, you know what I mean, Like
they're like, no, fuck that I wanted to go see it,
which is a fucking blessing because like now the fans
are actually starting to get behind me and they really see,
like the true people that know martial arts, they know
that I know my shit. I mean, so it's like whatever,

(18:06):
it'll it'll all work out soon.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
It's a good attitude. But I do feel like even
with an aate consecutive victory, he'll still be on the
outside looking in, considering title fight's going to be next
week in Chicago. And then we got that Kyle Barhaalio
fight against naserdine Imovov, who is very underrated and deserving here.
And when you look at that top ten, we've also
got some other big name players. You know, Sean Strickland's

(18:31):
trying to get back into a big, big fight. R
DR absolutely on fire and knocking at the door. Luke,
even if you could imagine a scenario where let's say
Fluffy ran through him, gas the leads out, submitted him,
is there any chance he could get that call next
in your eyes?

Speaker 3 (18:47):
No, no, I mean the reasons you articulated would make
that impossible. Also, like Fluffy is something of a hardcore
fans delight, right if you want a show, I mean,
this is you know. The interesting question is like how
many okay, so of eight is the most under the
way which bond had put that together for a title shot.

(19:09):
You know, what does it say that Fluffy might go
well past that? It could be ten eleven or twelve. Right,
let's just sort of imagine what does that say. And
the second part, you're just dealing with a different kind
of the tiered structure of the UFC product now where
you've got you know, pay per views on the road,
fight nights essentially, and then these Apex shows. And then
even so not all, not all of the APEX shows

(19:29):
are even really created equal it requires and I know
Fluffy's fought on like not just Apex shows, but I'm
simply saying, here's one of his bigger ones. It's at
the Apex. Granted it's the main event, but he hasn't
built a following, he hasn't built a name, he hasn't
built frankly, even much of an identity. Like you just

(19:49):
you don't see a lot of Anthony Hernandez interviews that
are out there, Like these factors all kind of play
a role here in like who's going to get the jump?
They're you know, an opportunity to rise. And I don't
get me wrong, like I'm excited for this fight, and
I think his story is one of the more remarkable ones. Actually, again,
I've been saying it like this dude is really putting
together something special, but he has not cobbled together momentum

(20:15):
in the broader sense on paper and then for insiders, yes,
but that is not enough to get the call up
short of like you know, I don't know, some kind
of disaster striking if he's the only guy left right.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, on the flip side, DELIZI, he's got a lot
of momentum with the broads. But let's talk about his
fighting game seven and two over his last nine in
the last four years. And if you look at the
two losses, a decision lost to Marvin Bettori two years
ago that he avenged in his last fight, and then
a majority decision loss to a Nacardina Imavov, who, like
we said, is knocking on the door of a title shot.

(20:50):
In between that stoppages by Tkover, Kevin Holland, Jack Hermanson,
Phil Hawes, Kyle Dawkas. So we got a punt respect
on the resume of Roman A LEDs from some of
the names he's beaten decision wins over victory and Anthony
Smith Luke. We talk about the leads. We're gonna talk
about the power. We're gonna talk about the fact that
he fights like a warrior. I mean he walks in

(21:12):
with with that fur hat and shoulder pads looking thing
on like a dead animal that he killed himself. Do
you believe, though, that he's got some elements to his
ground game that are underrated calf slicers in part?

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, I mean the calf slicer is interesting, but I
would say that he has It's a good question. Let
me think that through for just a second. I would
say that he's got a black belt level game for
MMA for MMA, and I think he's got underrated ability

(21:51):
to capture and hold position to facilitate ground and pound, right,
So like, in other words, contrast that with Patty Pimblin. Now,
I know he beat the fuck out of Michael Chandler,
but a lot of times he'll get the back and
then there's not necessarily it's underground and pound that happens after.
Delise's a little different, right, dalis is a He's got

(22:11):
the kind of positional attainment and maintenance that facilitates ground
and pound, and I think that makes him very dangerous.
Right again, Fluffy bit of a slow starter, a bit
of a slow starter against the guy like Delis, who's powerful,
who has good takedowns, and then can capture good, strong
positions from which to deliver punishment. You know, he can

(22:33):
really set himself up here to at a bare minimum,
get out, get out to a nice lead. I think
that's the way I would imagine his ground game. Now
you point out the cap slicer, which is interesting. I'm
not here to diminish his submission threat. But to me,
that's not really what makes his ground game shine. It's
a nice little addition to his resume, but I don't
think it's the thing that is what he's like most

(22:55):
potent for. To me, it's his ground and pound, and
I think that really is, you know, the work of
his strength.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
It's the ahead of this fight. He had cameras falling
him around in his native Georgia as he was like
rock climbing at night and hiking on like slippery, slippery areas.
He's certainly a man of principle. We remember seeing that
video that we showed when he was hiking in Georgia.
I remember when he found that soda bottle that was
cut in half. Luke that was probably used to get high,

(23:22):
and he gave that editorial against your beloved marijuana. Do
you remember that?

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah, but I didn't listen because I love marijuana.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yes, yes, I also love Roman Deli Day's part of
this Georgian revolution. Well, Roman sat down ahead of this
fight with Home of Fight, and the topic of weed
came up once more, this time centering around the old flufster.

Speaker 6 (23:44):
I like to meet peoples who are not talking too
much and have convision of life. And he's one of
dead guys in he have some stuff I don't like
in his life. But still, you know, we all have
something strange in us.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
We are. You're talking about the smoking.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
Yeah, because I don't don't smoke and never smoking. Also,
I'm against all. In my country where I'm from, this
consider is drug. You know, it's stifferent. That's why in
America that's normal. For he's not doing nothing bed but
for me how I was raised is not normally, but
it's free contruct as we see.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Long Island. Look, does that turn you off at all?

Speaker 5 (24:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (24:31):
New least favorite fighter.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
There you go. All right, Look, let's talk about what
we're actually going to see here. Huge fight for both
The winner could considering there's a few big names in
this division that are on the calmdown right now out
of Sonia, Whittaker, et cetera, could get a launch into
the top five ultimately, especially if this goes twenty five minutes.
What are we looking at here? Who gets their hand raised?

Speaker 3 (24:57):
I'm gonna go Fluffy her Nandez. I mean, I know
I'm taking big time. I'm chalk here and so long
is Lucas Pope trying to find some betting value in
a different direction. But you know, listen, I respect aleds A.
I think that he is not some chump. He's a
good fighter, he's experienced. As I mentioned, there are certain
dimensions where he can be quite terrifying. Uh And there
are questions about, you know what, what is the what

(25:18):
is that? This is the this is the reality BC.
We kind of know what the full upside is of Roman.
I don't really know that what it is for Fluffy,
We've seen some some interesting development, but we've actually not
seen what it looks like. And I have a feeling
that it might be higher than some realize. And for
that reason, I think we're going to get a glimpse
of that. And uh so give me no stoppage, I
don't think, although it's you know it's possible. I'm but

(25:39):
my official production BC give me Fluffy Hernandez by decision.
That's what I like.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, I gotta go the same way if I'm putting
a bet to it. Kind of cheering for Roman Deledze here,
I was like, what he brings to this division? Tough man,
tough out, big punch in both hands, long isand look
from a betting angle if you will, where are you
leaning ahead of this? On the main card minute podcast?

Speaker 7 (26:00):
So I took Fluffy money line in a parlay. But
if you're just looking for a single to take you
guys both just mentioned Fluffy by Decisions plus one eighty
five on DraftKings right now?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Not bad bad?

Speaker 7 (26:10):
Do you over under said it three and a half,
So even if you just took the over four and
a half, that'll be plus money as well.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Delize has never been finished before.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
I kind of think this one goes long as well.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
So I agree, I really like a finish here unless
there's something freaky like a cut or something that gets
in the way. Let's go to this co main event
in I wrote down Banham Whites, is that right or wrong?
Let me see here. Yeah, we're gonna go banda wet.
Did Steve ver Seg move up here? What's going on, Luke?

Speaker 7 (26:35):
No, it's because the fight was on late notice because
he was supposed to fight Youngsung Park, so Ode had
to take it on late notice.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Where would we be without long Island, Luke? Steve Erseag,
former UFC title challenger who was speed tracked to that
after three consecutive wins, even though he was that close
to beating Pantosio. Maybe a strategic decision better in round
five would have given him that. Well, now he's lost
three in a row. Well, yet is a minus five

(27:02):
to seventy five betting favorite against Odai Osborne plus four
twenty five. Is there still time in your eyes, Lt,
for Steve Ersag to right the ship. Three losses all
against the league competition, but it was up high and
down low for this guy. Does it make sense for
him to be almost a six to one favorite despite

(27:24):
this streak?

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, he's much better than Odia Osborne, or at least
he should be. Right, I'd be surprised if he lost
this one. You know, I wanted to fucking strangle him
through my screen when he shot for that takedown and
round five against Ben Can you believe he could have
beaten fucking Pantoja if he had not said for that?
It's it is like just seeing what Pantoja has done

(27:47):
since then, and you're like, dude, you could have disrupted
all of that without if you just have not made
a poor decision. But he made a fucking poor decision
and you know Pantoja didn't, so you know, look at
the difference. So that killed me. The kaikr of France won.
What can I say about that one? He just I don't,
I don't know. He wasn't he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I know what to say, Luke, what do you say?

Speaker 3 (28:18):
You do you do it? Are you being are you well,
I don't know if you're being racist or.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Now you're just that's a tribute to the mayor I said.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
I didn't say you're being racist. I just said you're
being dumb.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
This was racist by accident. That is not.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Fair enough, fair enough. But the point is, like you know,
faces notwithstanding kay Car, France is a devastating striker for
a lot of guys, and you saw have evidence of
that and then the moreno fight. To your point, you
see that's an I mean it was champion, title, challenger,
champion that he had to go through and he came
up short. On one level, You're like, oh, okay, well

(28:51):
he got fast tracked there beating you know, Matt Schnell,
and he just wasn't ready for it and he had
to kind of come back down to earth. But I'm
not really to dump him. I think he had when
I interviewed me, had insights about the game that we're smart.
He sits behind the jab when he makes good decisions.
And by the way, remember that was a five round fight.
This will be just a three. You know, he's he's

(29:14):
shown much better ability than Odi Osborne PC. I'm not
trying to be a dickish is the reality? Yeah, However,
you know you lose three in a row, what does
that do to your confidence? What is that due to
your ability to pull the trigger? What does that do
to your ability to believe that you can win? And
also coming all the way from motherfucking Perth to Las Vegas,
you know what does that kind of travel do for
you as well? So he should win this one, but

(29:35):
you know, maybe it gets interesting.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
And as long Island mentioned the late opponent switch when
Hung Young how do we.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Say that Park Young Sung Park?

Speaker 1 (29:44):
I believe Young Sung Park, Thank you, trying to be
good on this lose odiay Osbourne thirty three out of Jamaica.
He's lost four of his last six, three of those
by stoppage, but he's coming fresh off in April of
this year, a second round tk O victory against Lewis
Garooley without a Wikipedia page.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, Garole is actually a pretty good fighter, not great,
but good and you know, so you can judge that accordingly,
he's not a bad fighter at all.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
All right, that's stopped the streak of three consecutive defeats. Uh,
Steve ver Seg did sit down with the boner. So
let's talk about this three fight losing skid. Here's Mike
Bond I've ever made junkie.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
How do you even digest what's happened over the past
three fights. I mean, like, it's the best guys in
the world. It's a title fight. Like zero sham losing
to any of these people. But of course, you know,
you never want these things to come together in consecutive fights.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Yeah, I mean it's hard because if you lose, like
the guys I've lost to all like the best guys
in the world. So it's like you go, oh, well,
that's like a caveat to losing. But at the same time,
it's like losing still losing. And if you lose six
in a row, but they're also the top six guys,

(30:59):
like you still six in a row. So I know
that at some point I have to go from competing
with the best guys in the world to being the
best guys in the world.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
And I'm doing.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Everything I can to make sure I will and can
do that. Yeah, as far as mental, as far as
uh training, I'm trying to like make the adjustments everywhere
I can and try to build on the things that
are working as well. I really do think I can
be a world champion. I'm just gonna it's gonna make

(31:30):
it all click.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
I guess, well done. Mike U currently ursag ranked number
ten out one hundred and twenty five pounds. Osborne is
unranked and not riding a train luckily or not being
run on by Oh my.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
God, I want to be I want to be clear
that when I was in the Marine Corps and they
offered to me to allegedly run a train on a
person named Osborne. A. It was a female and be
she was heinous but did not look like Odaie Osborne.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Okay, wow, wow, we just got canceled. We're lucky, of course,
have a betting expert as a technical director, but he's
also an AUSSI MMA expert. Do has it broken your heart,
Luke Nosita to see Steve Correll ersag on this streak
when he was a bright spot in AUSSI MMA.

Speaker 7 (32:16):
Yeah, but like you guys mentioned, it came to literally
the current champion, the former champion, and the most recent
title challenger. He's losing to literally the best guys in
the division.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
If you want to get nitpicky with the.

Speaker 7 (32:26):
Stats here, Ersa's got a better striking accuracy, better striking defense,
lansmore strikes per minute, and Odie's got a negative striking differential.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
So I feel like this is Steve's think. Yeah, he's
been calling all weeks.

Speaker 7 (32:37):
Sub Just want to say Steve by sub plus one
eighty five. Half of his wins have come by sub
Odey's been subbed four times before.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
So interest question regarding your father, I only say this
because we know my father. The only thing he knows
about MMA is Dakota Ditcheva, and I have to report
that yesterday I was going for a run and I
ran by my neighbor, Handy Dan's house. He's like sixty three.
He goes, hey, Broy, how's my girl doing? You know, Dakota,

(33:05):
And I'm just like, what is happening in my life
right now? Like that's the only guy he knows too?
Is your well, come back? Don't leave me? Here is
your dad feeling this seg losing streak or he don't
get it?

Speaker 10 (33:16):
Damn yah.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
He has no idea who Steve is.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I think he knew who Volk was once.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Like it was in the newspaper. He read an article,
you know, but.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
He has his heart recovered from Steve Irwin's death.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
No, no one has. I was gonna say, who has.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean Bendy was kind of cute
on Dancing with the Stars, right, No, all right, enough
of that, Luke or Seguins right, maybe.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
By some maybe if he loses here, this would be
really bad.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
He should win, all right, that's a bounce back opportunity
for him.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I don't know if you care about these fights in order, Luke,
what else do you care about?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
On this card. Let me pull the card that I
have here for you. I will say there's some interesting
fights on this card. Your mileage may vary, but I
feel like Angela Hill versus Yasmin Lucindo is kind of interesting. Dude,
Hill is Basse is almost beaten forties door down, and
I know she's up and she's down, but a lot

(34:11):
of the ones where she's down, they're still pretty close,
and she guts it out. She's one three of her
last five. She's trying to get a title shot, you know,
before her career comes to a close. I really hope
she gets an opportunity because she's a really smart and
interesting person, and you know, is she the best fighter
I've ever seen? No, but she's good and she's scrappy,
and she's just constantly getting better. So I really hope
for her. You know, Andre fee Le versus c Rod

(34:33):
should be that should be kind of interesting, particularly I
think on the ground, to the extent that it goes there.
Let's see who else we got here. I'm not really
all that interested in Eric Hoors and Christian Lloyd Duncan.
That one you can miss me with. I especially don't
give a shit about Jocelyn Edwards and Priscilla catch Where.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
However, this card was way better than last week. I'm wrong.
Last week overachieved with those action fights, is I don't?
Is this good a good card?

Speaker 3 (34:58):
The Miles Johnson, you know, Matsumoto fight is pretty interesting. Also,
I'll give a bit of a shout out to earlsch
Madag and Gilbert Robina. Yeah, and also, you know, somewhat
kind of friend of the show, Cody Brundage is opening
the main are the and.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
The current jerker. He's actually uh, I mean he's fresh
off of no contest.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
But they led added the fight this week, so that
might have just thrown at the beginning.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I mean, we don't talk about the MMA power couple
that is Cody Bundridge and ABC. Why don't we?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I mean I think you talk about it NonStop.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
I was a huge Amanda Bobby Cooper fan back in
the day.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
No, all right, I want to ask you when Ronda
Rousey was at her peak, how often were you jacking off?

Speaker 1 (35:40):
That's a disgusting notion that I will not answer you on. Okay. Lucendo,
by the way, is a minus one eighty favorite over
the plus one fifty Angela Hill on that main card,
Andre Phellia plus two hundred underdog against the minus two
forty five c Rod. Let's bring it undercard special Yeah goo,
go back there, you go, undercard specialist, Luke Nosda. I
know you're going live this Saturday on the main card minute,

(36:03):
because that's.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
The you should change the main card minute to your
fuck my girlfriend.

Speaker 7 (36:09):
I already do that, Luke, it's just you know, after
the stream is over.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
But uh wow, I didn't need that.

Speaker 7 (36:15):
But uh right, I was gonna say I was with
UBC that I thought this card was better than last
weekend's card, but upon further inspection, it may be.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
They're all they're all the fucking same. Dude. It's just
it's just overflow.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
It's just a better main event arguably, I guess that's it.

Speaker 7 (36:31):
But uh yeah, dude, Uh there's not much on this card.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
I'm not gonna do. UF three nineteen is a is
a pretty good if to not to maybe like a
really good card, and uh let's just focus on that.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, good call. Hey that's the end of topic number one, folks.
I will be watching this on Saturday. I am fired
up for that main event. But yeah, your mileagez Luke
would say, it's varying. After that time, I'm.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Going to watch on Sunday when I get home.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
All right, there you go. Topic number deuce takes you
ahead of next weekends. UFC three to nineteen card in Chicago,
happy for big fights to be back in the Window
City Boxing was there last weekend on his own, and
you just don't see enough big fights in Chicagy drick
Is Duplessi and hamzat Chimaia and your middleweight Championship main event.

(37:16):
We talk about it almost every episode, how damn excited
we are. This feels like a super duper great matchup.
I really feel like I don't think I've been as
excited for a fight like this since max Ilia Islam
versus Volk one, Like some of those recent big ones
where you're like, this is a big fight, but it's
also a hardcore fans fight. I'm getting that feeling. Gear Well,

(37:40):
turn back the clock and the closest thing UFC has
done to a pay per view press tour and what
feels like a long while. The two one to eighty
five headliners and next week's show made the rounds this
week more aggressively, of course, with the champion DDP, who
not only threw out the first pitch at Wrigley Field
in Chicago, he was on local News All podcast.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Oh can I say something about that?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Is in my imagination or has it been a while
that the UFC goes to a city for a paper,
not not counting Vegas obviously, like some some outside of
the Vegas thing, and they put their fighters on like
morning radio, morning TV, you know all that kind of stuff.
Like DDP did a great job with it. It was

(38:24):
nice to see. This is good promotion for him, it's
good promotion for Frankly MMA, and it's good promotion obviously
for that event. Like I was really heartened to see
this kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Dude, I miss this, and I know the reason why
they don't do it, largely to be cheap and save
money because their focus isn't on driving up pay per
view sales in this climate with this content deal. But
when I mentioned I talked about on my love chat today,
when I mentioned how excited I was for Holloway Toporia
for example, I remember that fight week being like you

(38:53):
and I are fired up, but I feel like there's
no buzz outside of hardcore MMA fans because they don't
do what they used to do, which was exactly this.
Hit the ground, get the news cycles churning a week
or two weeks out, and really get us fired up.
I'm already fired up for this, but I gotta be honest,
these clips that we're gonna play and just seeing this

(39:13):
fight constantly on my timeline and the interviews and the comments, dude,
this is how you get people excited about big time events. Please,
UFC go back to this, spend the money in the
next broadcast deal wherever it goes, But back to the
setup here. What these interviews really did this is helped
set the narratives early as we close in on one

(39:34):
of the most anticipated matchups in a while. Luke, we
are going to get down on this card in six
days next Thursday when we hit you with UFC three
to nineteen pregame preview live and direct from Metal Lark
in Manhattan. Special get third guests still to come, and
we are gonna go hard on Quervo, maybe even that
Devil's Reserve. But humor me right now, what do you

(39:56):
think is the biggest single question about this FI that
can only be answered inside the cage? That you're getting
excited about.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
What happens after round three? Yes, everybody keeps talking about
what about round one? And obviously round one is going
to be pivotal in enormous ways, right, what could happen
so DDP could get finished because Hamzat is the fucking
you know, evil Knievel just getting shot out of a cannon.

(40:26):
That's one, or he survives round one, but it's so
battered at the fight, you know, it becomes you know,
academic at that point afterwards. So that's what everyone keeps talking about,
is round one, round one, round one. And of course,
like no one can dismiss that, right, But I said
something on Twitter the other day, and of course, like
anything on Twitter, you can say two poles two is four.

(40:47):
People disagree. But let me just sort of defend it
here a little bit, which is I'm getting hendo whoa
vibes for this fight?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Oh my god, I am I have a phoner?

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Okay, So but I want to explain with that means, right,
I'm not saying that it's going to look exactly like
that fight. That's not what I'm saying. And I can't
even declare that it'll be at you know that one
went the distance. This one might not go the distance.
But what I am trying to point out about it
is two things. One, when this may sound dude, I

(41:20):
remember them lead up to that fucking fight week when
they fought each other. People were kind of hyped for it,
but like people didn't know what to make of that fight.
They didn't know how the two were gonna get like interacted.
There was a little bit of like, we don't really
know how this is going to go, and there certainly
was an expectation that it would deliver. But what happened
was the way in which those two came together. It
unlocked something bigger than themselves. I feel like Hamzot and

(41:44):
DDP have the capacity to do not again, not the
exact same thing, but unlock something and you get a
bigger fight than what I think people. I mean, there's
obviously high expectations, but you know, delivering in that particular case.
The second thing I want to say is what was
interesting about Hendo and who Hua was. The third round
was the sort of the demarcation line where Hendo beats

(42:07):
the fuck out of Shogun Hua for fifteen minutes and
then in the last two rounds Shogun is kicking his
ass to the point where he's in mount and fucking
raining down punishment on him. And be see, if you
think about it for a second, think about times that
the tide has turned in five round fights. Another example,

(42:27):
for example would be John Jones versus Gustafson one. It
was after the third round that it was the pivotal round.
So to me, again, any number of different things are
possible here, but let's say this fight actually makes it
to the third round. What happens after that is to me,
the real fucking story about what you're gonna get. And

(42:50):
I can't wait to see what happens.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Dude, I can't wait to see if jimaiav can do
the same thing he did to wait at Ker Holland
and all these dudes early on. I can't wait to
see if Jim I have as that championship cardio. All
that stuff is firing me up. And what's interesting, if
I recall, tell me if I'm wrong, we're Henderson Huo
one is arguably the best action fight in the history
of the UFC. Didn't that go head to head with

(43:14):
Eddie Alvarez. Michael Chandler's two in arguably the best fight
in Bell to I remember that.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
The same I didn't it didn't go ahead to head.
One happened before the other one, so that those two
fights happened on the same day.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
You're right, because I remember sitting in the ESPN dot
com newsroom, uh, wrapping up our our coverage. I was
like a page editor wrapping up our coverage of the
Bell tour as the guy next to me was watching
Henderson who was start, and they were just like losing
their shit.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Shout out to that. I hope we get something even
remotely close to that. We've got some sound to react to.
Let's start first with DDP sitting down with the Chicago
Sports Network. He wore many Chicago Sports jerseys on the media. Yeah,
it was funny to see he saw talking about how
much damn weight he has to cut for this one

(44:04):
eighty five title limit. Let's listen. Five one, what do
you walk around there? And then how far away from
that one eighty five are you right now?

Speaker 4 (44:11):
I'm still quite a bit quite a favorite away from
from one eighty five, but I do walk around around
two twenty five to thirty. That's that's my walk around
way out of camp, of course, and then in camp
wet we started to slim down and you know, right
now my weight's on track weight. He's wait, it's perfectly
while I needed to be this stage for the fight,
and yeah, we are ten days away from from Wayne

(44:34):
right now, and this is where the hard thoughts start,
you know, getting the body ready to cut that water
and put it back on safely.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Look, he's a big mffort. And I said, I don't
want to get too deep into the analysis here ahead
of next week. But Tamaiah, even if he does take
this guy down around one and try to do Hamsat things,
I don't know if he's fought a guy this physical before.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
You would say, But like the version of Usmin that
he got while Crafty is you know, diminished. Just dude,
this is peak fucking DDP. You know what I mean? Peak?
And I don't know if you saw it. I don't
know if we have the video. Did you see DDP
in his corner Sorry, did you see tremaiav and his
cornerman making fun of the way that DDP throws punches. No,

(45:21):
it's the best impression of DDP I've ever fucking seen.
Not like the way he talks, but like the physical mannerisms.
You know, it was incredible to see that, like this
is the reality. Like DDP is who we think he is.
You know, he's weird and it's sometimes goofy, but like
he's all fucking tank and the reality is tremaiev. I
think he's probably better suited at eighty five, but this

(45:43):
is a guy who fought at seventy. You know, dude,
Tremiah excuse me, h DDP couldn't find at one seventy
short of amputation. You know, it just wouldn't. It couldn't happen.
So you know, I I again, it's just so many
interesting ways in which these two line up. I can't.
I have said it BC as the as the as uh,

(46:04):
you know, the biggest Taforio Booster the last two fucking
years in this sport. Even I even I have been
said since the beginning, this is the fight on the
calendar I care the most about in MMA or boxing.
I care more about this one than I do Canelo Crawford.
You'll take that as you will.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yeah, I'm kind of I'm starting to get there with you.
A DDP on this streak of consecutive we he's twenty
three in two overall, he has not lost since a
twenty eighteen fight in the rematch with Roberto Soldiitch, Is
that how I'm saying this, Luke I always I get
to whatitcher on that?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yeah, I've heard it, so Soldich like ful Diick.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yeah that's the Uh. That was a rematch there for
the KSW Welterweight Championship. He's unbeaten in the UFC. But
how about this run of submitting darre until, stopping Derek Runson,
stopping Robert Whitaker, split decision over Sean Strickland, submitting Autosania,
beating Strickland by decision in the rematch. He adds Chamaiev
to this list. We are talking about really a legendary roun.

(47:01):
One more piece of sound from DDP as he talked
about that big challenge, that first round, that wrestling of
hamzat Jemaia and dealing with it. Let's listen.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
Osma is really known for his relentless pressure.

Speaker 11 (47:15):
He's an elite grappler as well.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
What can you exploit against him?

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Yeah, I mean it comes out obviously world loss ratling, grappling,
and but you know this level of the sports, everybody's
world loss. You know this is not grappling or wrestling.
This is MMA, and that's where I'm gonna exploit is
being the best in my I'm not the We're not
fighting for a wrestling title, We're not fighting for grappling tittle.
We are fighting for the UFC title, and that's where

(47:40):
I am the best. I'm not the best rattler, I'm
not the best grappling all the best sharka. But when
you put all of those things together, if you can
bond it, and that's the sport we do, I am
the best in the world.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Shout out to that lady from Fox thirty two who's like,
so when you have the fight against the Hazmat Sue,
what are you gonna do?

Speaker 8 (47:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:57):
That was good stuff right there. Yeah, that's fantastic. All right,
We'll see how he deals with that physicality. Let's go
to Jamaiah who had a very lengthy sit down with
Bretto Komoto of ESPN MMA inside a kitchen, and one
of the big things Tamaiah corrected the record on is
this narrative that if he wins the championship, hill a
retire or we can add in the concerns that Dean

(48:18):
Thomas has had publicly that Tremiah will be inactive due
to the up and down run he's had with health,
Visa's bad luck all of that. Here's Tremaia of addressing
that rumors with the most handsome man in MMA media.

Speaker 8 (48:32):
I think you know there's this there's this rumor out
there that if you win the championship that you will retire.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Have you seen this?

Speaker 12 (48:40):
I see that Kaias said I'm gonna I don't know
what he's here that thinks. So I need money. This
is not enough just to go for the one title.
So I hopefully if you not get some jito some stuff,
they're going to fight for, defend the belt or fight

(49:05):
for other belt. About that base.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Well fourteen and oh is Jemaiah overall on a streak
of consecutive wins over Kevin Holland, Kamara Ustman, Robert Whittaker, Luke.
I like that that he's gonna be around a while.
He needs some money. I would have thought he's well
taken care of by his boy kadeerv Or we don't
talk about that.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
I guess Kadiro hasn't been seen that much recently. God
only knows what he's up to these days.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
But listen, I'll just entertaining Gaechee and all the other
ali Yes, yes, they.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Get they get real mad when you bring this up,
even though you know they did it for you know,
public assumption. But okay, neither here nor there.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
That beard, dude, that beard's massive.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
You see that beard is fucking massive. And you know,
if anybody sort of looks like a fighter hums out,
Chamayah kind of looks like one. And I'll just say,
I mean, now that he's able to compet in the
United States, you know, his earning potential is obviously, you know,
significantly boosted. I think the thing I would say to
you see, so I was on Submission radio and he
asked me, like, you know, what's better if for the UFC,

(50:05):
if DDP or Hamsaw wins. And the reality is, dude,
the answer is who they can build around long term?
Can they build around Hamsat long term? The answer is maybe, right,
we don't know, but like possibly. But the other thing
to sort of think about is the answer maybe two
years ago would have been like, oh, Hamza, he's like,
you know, he's like or maybe even three year whatever
it was like at the peak of his powers, it

(50:26):
would have been Hamsa. But the thing to think about is,
you know, I've seen guys get built into big time
stars and even legends in MMA. It takes time. It
takes time, and DDP isn't there yet BC obviously, but
this is his first fucking headlining pay per view in
the United States. Like it's gonna take time. He's already
made some inroads. He goes out there and he beats Chimaiev,

(50:48):
He's well on his way. So, like, I know, a
few years ago, the answer would have been like, oh, Hamza,
Like the sport is so interested in him and there
could be nobody else and maybe maybe it should be him,
maybe it will be him. But if DDP wins man,
I truly believe, for all the ways in which he's
already proven doubters wrong, he could round another promotional corner
that could be great for UFC and obviously for his

(51:10):
career as a big time star in the sport.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, dude, he has monster star appeal. Even with the
ups and downs of his career, still on beating, still dominant.
Only really close fight was that Gilbert Burns war, which
I still feel like he made harder than it needed
to be. I also feel like he lost that fight.
Shout out to Gilbert, friend of the program. Right there.
One more piece of sound here for Tremaiev. That's pretty interesting.
The one lament I've had on his run so far

(51:35):
with these inconsistencies is I did want to see him
fight for the welterweight title before moving up to middleweight.
But we got a piece of sound here from Tremaiev
talking about his ambition. He's not done. He's not done.
If he wins this middleweight championship, he has a lot
more goals to attain.

Speaker 12 (51:53):
I work with a new coach, coach Kyle. I talk
about him go down again. Back to my first fights,
you know the one seventy seventy five? Was that one
seventy He said, it gives me a couple of months
again him, We're gonna make it. So I don't know
who is the champion at this guy, Australian guy would

(52:17):
be a good fight for me and go down fight
with him as well. Could take the bet there if
I go up and there is uncle ale and uh
his name Alex Alex Pereira. They're fighting on who's winning
Canda fight for the belt as well.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Yeah, look, we thought the first person to attempt. The
three division champion was Connor. Then we thought it would
probably be Pereira for a little bit, we thought out
of Sonia. Do you think he'll get that chance? Or
is this just big ball ambition?

Speaker 3 (52:48):
He hasn't won a single fucking title yet. What are
we talking about?

Speaker 1 (52:53):
I guess talking about it?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Not mean like, is he one of these kinds of
guys who you could like look at and say, hey,
would he be a good candidate potentially for something like that? Sure? Sure,
but that is you know, I don't know how to
explain that. It's sort of like like I'm not sure
what the analogy would be. It's like, oh, you know,

(53:17):
climbing El Capitan. You know, uh, who's a good candidate
for you find the world's best climbers. And it's like, okay,
but that's still like an insanely difficult fucking task that,
you know, let's just sort of imagine that no one's
done yet, like just to get the fuck out of here.
He hasn't even gotten one fucking title yet, much less too,
and we're talking about could he get three? Let's let's

(53:37):
get one and then we'll talk about two.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Okay, I mean it's probably not gonna happen where he
could go from beating DDP to beating the winner of
Islam JDM to beating the winner of Anklia Pereira. But
I love the big ball talk that goes with that. Well,
we have not seen a ton of trash talk between
Duplessi and Shamaiah in the build up to this fight,
but there is somebody who is talking trash about Jemiah.

(54:02):
His name is Sean Strickland. We had to call in
our friends from Quervo because this sounds a lot like
shots Fire, and of course this edition of shots Fire
brought to you by Quervo. Now is a good time
to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila, and we will

(54:22):
be enjoying that next Thursday at pregame preview. Here's Strickland
looking back on the sparring that he previously did at
Extreme Patre in Vegas with Tremiah.

Speaker 11 (54:32):
Tremiah is just a fucking coming. I mean I was
here when he retired from COVID. I was training with him,
like he's just a fucking com you know. It's like
if you you always say to those guys, if you
knew on a personal level, you went like tamaiav as
one as people. If you knew you wann't like it,
you know he'll come in here. There's a video in me.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I always look like, oh you're so good comas, you're
better than most, You're.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Better than everybody.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Don't hurt you, Like I'm being sarcastic. Like, bro, like
you go and you fucking start this one in one
guy when there's like ed men, there's like high level
UC fighters and you're picking the one one in one
fighter because like you think he's the same height as
your opponent and no, you're picking him to your fitch dude,

(55:21):
Like he's just yeah, he's just like no matter he
could fight, but like mentally he's just a weak man.

Speaker 11 (55:28):
You know, he's just a weak man.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Damn them are fighting words. And those words were relayed
to Hamzat Chimaya of yesterday. Here's his response.

Speaker 13 (55:36):
When you were in Vegas, you trained that Extreme P
two with Sean Strickland. He's been saying some stuff in
interviews about you just didn't like your approach. Just why
do you think he's saying that and do you have
a response.

Speaker 12 (55:48):
I don't know. When I was there and even Able
said anything, you know when I leave the Vegas and
when I they stopped my Riza, he started to talk.
When I come back, I'm in a labro.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Come home.

Speaker 12 (56:00):
If he's something personal for you, just come. I'm here.
Why any what he wants?

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Just come? All right, he's here, Luke, you can get
in this country again. Just come. We were in the
extreme Coutur with coach Eric Nixon for that for that
RSD that time, and they did. They did. Those guys
in the gym we're talking about when JEMAIAV was there
and that people had success against him. I know sparring
is sparring. You're not always getting that. But is this
Strickland trying to plan a seed for a future fight

(56:27):
or just Strickland being Strickland.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Definitely, I don't think there's any way to say it's,
you know, Strickland being Strickland has to be part of it, right,
I mean there's you know, he doesn't know how to
talk without doing that kind of thing from what I
can tell. But I think what I would say is
it's an interesting claim that he's making. Okay, so I've
done I've done enough training to know that I'm not good.

(56:57):
But I've also done enough training to know and see
what he's talked about. There are definitely guys and sometimes
it happens at the heavyweight end because they can wait
bully where you know it's time to spar and you know,
for high level guys that's much more coordinated, like they
know exactly who they're sparring with and blah blah blah.

(57:17):
But you know, it's more like an open class. You
kind of have to just pick guys either your size,
and then you just rotate out and then you could
end up with a lot of different kind of opponents,
right you lengthier ones, shorter ones, smaller ones, bigger ones,
depending on who you are. And I've definitely seen, I've
absolutely seen what he's talking about where there are guys
who kind of carefully pick who they're going to go

(57:40):
up against so that they don't look bad as a
consequence or they don't get a tough round. I've seen it.
I've seen it in many different ways. You know, it
would surprise me if Hamzad is that way, it would
surprise me. But let's just posit something. Let's say for
a second that Sean is right, if Hamzad is that way.
That's if if ddp's going to fuck him up, right

(58:05):
WHOA well again, if if he's the kind of guy
who when the when you know you're picking rounds to
train and you're purposely picking around who you're supposed to
be training with because you either want to dominate or
you want an easy role, or you know whatever. Ddp's
going to feast on a guy like that. So let's

(58:26):
see if Sean Strickland is right. I guess is my point.
Let's see if he's right.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Damn. I cannot wait for this fight next week.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
This fight is fucking sick. I'm so pumped.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
And I'm really looking forward to the pregame preview because
there's a lot of names. There's a lot of depth
on this card from Aaron Pico and the Colemane. You
got that, Jeff Neil Carlos Protest, Jared Cannonier versus MVP,
Tim Elliott versus Kaya Sakura. You got King Green, Jessica
and Ras Chase Hooper, Edson Barbosa on the early prelimbs.
A lot of names to get excited about. Alf rand

(58:59):
impersonator me hell Olek Shayshik is here as well, So
get fired up. We're gonna drink some quer vote next
Thursday for UFC three nineteen pre game preview. Oh yeah,
luke real quick. Earlier today, there was some breaking news
on the UFC fight scene in Heo, Brazil, October eleventh.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
I saw this. I saw this Charles Olvera and Raphael Fhazeve.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
I'll bang her, bang her. I just met her, Olivera
fazive your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
What the fuck is Charles Olavera thinking? I know he
probably wants to compete in Brazil, and God bless him.
I hope he gets out of I hope he gets
out of it what he wants. And it's not me
declaring he will lose. But holy shit, you are running
a risk. He just got flatlined and you're gonna turn
around and go against a dynamic striker in Phyzeve in October.

(59:56):
It is such a such a huge risk fight. I
hate Charles Oliveris thinking here, it's so dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Yeah, yeah, I hope he does the gray hair dye
for this one. He's gonna need it.

Speaker 8 (01:00:08):
Uh.

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to topic number three. Then we'll welcome in the fan
portion of today's show. How about this little news sneaking in?
This week? The ABC, the Association of Boxing Commissions, has
approofed changes to the MMA's unified scoring rules. The ABC

(01:01:59):
hell their thirty seventh annual conference this week, where the
language regarding MMA judging was overhauled to more accurately reflect
the current practices, particularly as it relates to damage. Good
friend of the program Eric mcgracken, a non voting member
of the ABC committee, posted on his website Combat Sports
Law dot Com that the old version of the rules

(01:02:21):
shied away from the word damage despite making the concept
of important. The new version emphasizes damage in several ways,
resulting in clearer and easier to understand language for fighters, officials,
in the public at large. In addition to emphasizing damage
the key for determining a round winner, will also note

(01:02:42):
that damage is essential to score a ten eight round,
with dominance and duration together not being enough. And when
judges can't determine a winner on damage and move on
down to aggressiveness or fighting area control, they no longer
can do so in a tiered way, but instead based
on whichever impacted the round in a more significant manner. Luke,

(01:03:07):
We've long talked about damage being the key, yet when
you look at the language of the law, it doesn't
really add up evenly. Despite what Big John McCarthy said
in having originally helped make that law. How do you
think this changed to the letter of the law will
help things moving forward?

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
I maintain that it's just my opinion, but I maintain
that the best kind of scoring criteria is the one
that Pride and now One Championship used, where they judge
as a whole. Of course, there are criteria within that
to achieve that end, but that is the way that
they do it. I just tend to think you get neater,
less complicated problems as a result. I mean to me,
they keep trying to iterate this, and I want to

(01:03:49):
be clear, this iteration is a good one. This is
I think it's not a massive change to what you're
going to get in the sport, but it provides clarity,
a degree of I think simplicity, and its streamlines the process,
especially when you know when they when everything's equal, before
they had the checklist, they had to go down, and
now they're not going to do that. I think that's

(01:04:10):
a lot. I think that's a smart change. So I
want to be clear. These are good changes, These are
smart changes, These are efficient changes. Is it going to
radically alter the judging that you get. I think people
are still going to complain about the judging, you know
what I mean? Like, I think that you're making these
changes right, they're gonna make the job of the judge easier.

(01:04:33):
But there's a gap between how the judge or the
judges perceive their job and what MMA fans think the
job of the judge is. And as long as that
gap exists, yes, you're making the job easier for the
judges and that's not nothing. But you know, We're still
gonna get belly aching about the decisions. That's kind of
where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Yeah, I got you on that one. There is a
new uh. They also voted on a new commissioner this week,
Mike Mazzoli out, I forgot the name of the guy
who took.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Over from Floridorida. Yeah, he was big.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
On getting MMA back in Jacksonville during the for UFC
during COVID, So that's interesting. One connection to this, of course,
is the California State Athletic Commission Executive Director Andy Foster,
who did a very timely interview on the Ariel Hawane Show.
Now Luke. He was very heavily maligned by by combat

(01:05:23):
sports journalists for both his support excuse me, Timothy Shipman
was the name, Thank you, Luke Mesida. The new ABC Commissioner.
Andy Foster was on Aeriel and he took a lot
of a ship for kind of softly supporting power slap
and then also really supporting the changes to the ALI
Act that TKO is behind and trying.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
I hope, I hope, I hope every fighter understands like
I've had a good relationship with with with him, and
you know, I'm not going to sit here and say
bad things about him. But I hope every fighter who
sees this or hears this understands that at the regulatory
apparatus in this country doesn't give a fuck about you. Yeah,

(01:06:08):
they don't give a fuck about you. They don't give
a fuck about you. They don't want you to die
in their state when you compete. But short of that,
they don't give a fuck about it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
I mean, is it unfair to say they care more
about making sure the promoters that bring in the big
money are going to keep coming back to their sees.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Yes, it is quite obvious that that is a higher priority.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Yes, all right, Well, uh my frozen can you see him?

Speaker 7 (01:06:28):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Here we go? How is it? I'm in a van
down by the river and I have better internet than you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Speaking of the fog, I look like John.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Daly and I have better internet than you. How is
that possible?

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
By the way, as much as you maligned Happy Gilmore too,
you gotta give it to John Daly's performance in that movie.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Okay, okay, the third time he ate the hand sanitizer,
he overdid it. Yeah, he definitely. He definitely had a
couple of beggars in that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Yeah, yeah, he played that role. Well, all right, fall
Y did have some answers related to this topic overall
that we're talking about the scoring change. Here's Andy Foster
talking to Ariel about how judges will now score a
ten eight round.

Speaker 14 (01:07:11):
Said, you're the chairman of the rules committee, so this
would fall under your jurisdiction. What are the modifications that
are being made to the scoring criteria?

Speaker 10 (01:07:18):
So it's a slot modification. It's important for the public
to understand. To get a ten eight in mixed martial
arts is now going to require significant damage. I understand
the way that it's being scored right now. The judge
is already scoring that way, but this is actually going
to be in if it's if it's accepted by the body,

(01:07:40):
And that's a relatively important change because it's going to
actually put the word damage in the document. We've talked
about it for a long time, but damage is the
number one scoring criteria through effective striking and effective grappling.
You've heard these other terms effective and aggressiveness, effective cage control.

(01:08:03):
These things we never get to aerial people. The public
does not need to ever use the term effective aggressive,
it's or effective cage control. Really in the context of scoring.
The only thing that matters is how the techniques, through
striking or grappling, have impacted their opponent. That's the way

(01:08:25):
this is scored. In a ten to nine, we're putting
out the language, a ten eight, we're putting out the language,
and then a ten to seven.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
I think that's a good change right there across the board.
They're still not going to score defense in mma, although
that is part of the scoring criteria of course in boxing.
One more quick SoundBite here fosters shit on any judge
who's still liking the idea of a ten ten round.

Speaker 14 (01:08:48):
The three main criteria still are damage, dominance, and duration,
damage being the most important.

Speaker 10 (01:08:56):
Right, that's correct, and it's a requirement now for a
ten eight rown.

Speaker 14 (01:09:02):
Okay, what about a ten ten? Should we be seeing
more of those?

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:09:08):
No, look, man, if if you watch a file for
five minutes aial and you can't tell me who won
that five and they're and they're fighting in earnest, I'll
find another judge.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Dude, I actually agree with that completely.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Oh sorry, my thing here is what the fuck? All right?
Sorry about that? I don't know what that will happen.
I don't actually really why yeah, why is it that,
I guess I don't understand. I understand why you would
not want a judge to two It would be bad

(01:09:51):
if judges gave a lot of ten tens for the business, right,
But I guess I don't understand. Are you telling me
it's conceptually impossible for me to imagine that two guys
could fight in a way where it would be basically
not impossible to discern a difference, but reasonably difficult to
where you would almost be like ascribing value to insignificant things.

(01:10:12):
That seems to me actually very plausible. So to me,
the notion of like, oh, we don't want to have
ten tens, that's an argument about like preserving the business interest,
and fine, just make the argument like it's bad for
business to have a bunch of ten tens. But the
notion that, like, that's not a coherent way to evaluate around, don't.
I don't understand the argument for that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
I fully disagree because most of them in may fights
are three rounds. You're only scoring three rounds if one
of them is going to be ten ten. It's like
I get that there's some rounds where almost nothing happens.
And he did say right there. If the fighters are
fighting in earnest right, but like over five minutes, not
like boxing where it's a three minute round, and if
it's a three minute round with very little action, I
understand that more, even though I hate ten ten rounds

(01:10:54):
in boxing and you almost never see them because in
most commissions they're encouraged not to do ten ten rounds.
Even in boxing, and sometimes in boxing, almost nothing happens
in five minutes. In an MMA fight, something's gotta happen,
somebody's gotta win the round. And if there's any concern,
you should have done more in the in the fight,
in the round to try to change that, in my opinion.

(01:11:16):
But that's that is, That is what it is, Luke.
I think ten tents sucks. Okay, pick a winner.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
They're bad for business.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
I'll give you the defense. Get off the damn fence,
all right. We're gonna close today with our typical Friday
fun fan segments, and how you get there is by
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Mikey Momiles is on the other side of that. Say
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We kick off with our ombudsman segment. Me and lt

(01:11:47):
speak a lot of shad into this microphone, and sometimes
we're factually incorrect. Sometimes we're just assholes. But if you
can prove us wrong and you got time stamps, you
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Many many people sent in Anthony Michael, Richard, Greg Collin
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the Ninja Turtle cartoon, I was wrong. I will take
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comes from both Michael and Nima. Michael writes hello again,
Donks on Monday when doing the time killing Phil in
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(01:12:51):
dead wrong. When mentioning the oh so you're a wrestler
now quote from Nate Diaz, both of you jamokes stated
that it was free fight. How does that make any sense?
He made that comment at the desk after the fight
against Connor McGregor, when Connor shot for a takedown in
the first meeting at UFC one ninety six in March

(01:13:13):
twenty sixteen. Get it together, Ella's yeah, I guess we
could take that out fair enough.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Easy to the pedantic stuff right there. I'll take it.
Our final Our final segment is where you show us
pictures of your artwork of Saoul's wife and an MK
shirt of whatever else you got for us. It's the
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You've got mail fures. Alrighty, let's kick it off with

(01:13:47):
my hero, Christian Deguiro, he says, Hi, Donks, last Saturday,
I had my final amateur fight. Yes, and following suit
with my last six fights, I put MK on the dong.
He'll carry that energy to another finish, improving my record
to eight and two as an amateur with seven finishes

(01:14:08):
and winning the up Next Fighting Bantamweight Championship. Thank you,
Donks for all the entertainment you provide us fans on
a weekly basis. You can count me in as a
Donk for life. Luke, I don't think we're doing enough
to showcase this young man. He showed up out of
three Margarita's Live show. He's putting us on the d brother.

(01:14:29):
This guy is a killer.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
I am so proud of him and this is such
a great achievement. What a great amateur run he had,
and I hope the pro side is that times ten. Also,
there's the shmo on the left side of the screen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Oh shit, look at that up next fighting. That's pretty awesome.
Shout out to the schmo right there. Shout out to
Christian Daguerro of California, Luke. I hope he never signs
a twelve and twelve, but I'd love to see him
on the DWCS one day.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
I would love to see him have again. I hope
it's as good as the amateur run and more.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
All right, well done, Christian Deguerro. We're gonna have you
on this show ahead of your pro debut. Keep up
the great work. Our second one comes from my boy Joe,
who calls himself Ron dem Cheeks. He says, greeting Jens,
Oh yeah, my wefing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
This guy is a marine or a former marine.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
He is, Yes, yes, he's a Pennsylvania guy, he says.
My wife and I just got back from celebrating our
honeymoon in the UK. We spent one week in London,
one week in Scotland, and yet again the MK Bomber
jacket proved its worth by keeping me comfortable no matter
the weather. Here are a few photos of us in
the Highlands and Lockness. And no, my wife and I

(01:15:38):
don't actually believe in Bigfoot. She just wore the hat
to be ironic at Lockness. Though my father does believe
in him and thinks he travels through dimensional portals and
he who wish you the best and thanks for all
that you do. And side note, our tour guide said
that Scotland is rapidly losing its Spanish and Latino population

(01:15:59):
since the UK that's the EU, so let's hope Johnny
Walker did some work to keep the population going for years.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Luke, if you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Recall here Joe and Hannah, the newlyweds, and shout out
to them. I believe Joe wore the m K bomber
when they climbed like Mount Fuji was it? Do you
remember that back in the day?

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
I believe that's right. Yes, don't hold me to that,
but I think that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Yeah, well done, there congratulations to the young couple. Thank
you for bringing MK on your life journey. I mean,
you remember little Anthony and v they I think they
conceived wearing MK clothing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
I think that Saoul what he bangs, his significant other
wears MK gear doing it. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
He wears those m k undies with you and I
his face against the buttle.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Yeah, tips like tre you go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Thank you so much, Joe. Let's go over to Kevin.
No comment on this one. Let's see what we got here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Luke cut me some slack when pronouncing mateush roum beski,
Luke when pronouncing that's so true. But you know, this
is the funny part about doing this job, and I
think you would agree with at least this part. Right.
You see, you took French in high school, right, what
did you take in high school?

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Five years of French middle five years of French?

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Okay, So if you were requited, if someone came to
you and said, hey, we need you to like, what
kind of language would you at least have the best
chance of pronouncing correctly Other than English? You would probably
say a French. The answer for me would definitely be Spanish. However,
limited my Spanish might be, but then the reality of
this business is like, dude, You've got people from every

(01:17:34):
fucking imaginable walk of life, and none of their names
match up against the other ones, and the rules about
how you pronounce it don't follow through, so you get
like one kind of lane where you can kind of
you know, and then everything else you sound like a
fucking idiot peasant. You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
I fucked that one up every time?

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
I can't get Kyle Barellio off of my mouth either.
All right, there, let's keep it going. Here's my boy
from Kid the K back Wow, Mark Antoine Dusaul, who says, hey,
donks in response to the hot dog eating on both
ends that we saw and have you seen this ship?
I've made some AI RT with your boys, trying to
create this magical moment you guys call God. Okay, this

(01:18:18):
is hey Mark, Please can you take this away? Here
are two pictures that show what your day is that
cake lady? What's going on here?

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Dude? Dude, I gotta say I the AI portion AI
has revolutionized fan subs in the worst way imaginable, but
also in the funniest way.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Dude, don't I look like Mike Bone in that picture
right there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
No, you look like you, but with that shoe polish
fucking you know, uh hair dye.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Remember that at Phile We Wake uh Connor two, when
we had that live show at the park, MGM and
I look like us at the sixty eight Comeback special. Wow,
that was good times. Well done, Mark Antoine, We appreciate you.
Let's hear from Jonas. What do we got here?

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Reggie? Reggie, I'm mooning like a morally odious piece of
shit on his podcast and I carefully vote for the
most gruesome slobs to hold political office, but he still
treats me like Shirley Temple. Suck on it, leap.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Ah, mister October in the house right there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
You gotta love this mister October, this fucking cat.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Dude he so hated in this house. I'm the only
one that has like, real genuine love for him.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
It's amazing. Who is the leader of who's the clubhouse leader?

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Like the most like pet my wife's little dog Sasha,
no question, close second as Molly the big brown German
Shepherd Doberman mix.

Speaker 12 (01:19:47):
And uh.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Then you can go to the two girl cats, Zoe
and Emma, Reggie deep at the bottom, dude deep.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Oh man, fucking eh? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Was Booger well loved in your house or.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
No, dude, Booger was top of the food chain. Whoa, yeah, yeah,
he was top of the food chain. Man it was ah, yeah,
I don't know what to say.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Man had a great run. We love that Guykoco. Yeah,
named after Mohammed Makaya.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
Right, yeah, yes, exactly right, named after Mohammed Makayah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
That's exactly our final one comes from. Was he last?
Average Jar? Was he last year's donk of the year?
He was right? Twenty four's donk of the Year Joe Romero?

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Right, yo, he's out here hitting the ball. Where is
this guy?

Speaker 14 (01:20:31):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
I didn't know you were asking me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
I thought you were asking LT. I was asking LT.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Yeah, yeah, sir, say that again. Here I am hoisted
by my own petards.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Last year's donk of the year was average Jar?

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Correct, Yes, I believe that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Okay. We closed with average Joe, who says.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Oh he big this one up on social Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
He says, what does it say about me that, while
on a morning walk with my dogs listening to m K,
I hear one of the many many references to Luke's
enormous bowel movements, then proceed to watch a Jaws documentary
later in the day, and something in my brain clips
that clicks, that says, Yep, that's it. I want to
introduce you both to the next summer blockbuster. It's called Breach,

(01:21:12):
Holy shit Balls. It also probably says a lot about
me that I thought a lot about how to properly
render a shark shaped turd. Initially, everything was in full
color and the water looked a lot closer to how
you'd expect the toilet following one of LT's great accomplishments.
Maybe that was a little bit too much. I hope
the various nuggets and blood specs come across as well

(01:21:35):
as Captain Lee. Yeah. I wanted this to be very simple,
but very effective. What does that say? Can you read that? Look?
I can't.

Speaker 8 (01:21:44):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
The hat, says SS Joseph A.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Bank.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Oh my god, dude, we got the best people on
this show.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Oh dude, that is so fucking awesome.

Speaker 14 (01:21:57):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
I told my wife that story, grow so you did.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
You can get away with that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
I told my wife that story and she was like,
you're a fucking barn animal and I was like, yeah,
that's that's about right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Yeah, shout out to missus te On here she wants
rolled with Roxanne Motaferdi Luke.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Never forget right to me, Roxane was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Yeah, she didn't take coms out advantages of her, so
that was great to see you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
No she did not. That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Here we go. Those are the fan subs of this week.
Well done, folks, Morning Combat at gmail dot com. You
want to reach the show, say hi Show Mikey or Penwa,
or send in fan subs, dead wrongs or whatever else
you got for us. We will be back, of course
a remote show on Monday morning, eleven am recapping the

(01:22:40):
weekend's action. You can follow us at the handles below.
You can also follow our extended YouTube channels, including the
main Card Minute with Luke Nosita and Luke Thomas gets Political.
Subscribe to his substack as well. Don't forget guys. Next Thursday,
two days before UFC three nineteen, Quare will bring you

(01:23:00):
pregame preview live in direct from Manhattan. Luke, will you
get into the Devil's Preserve and will you do it
without a chaser this time?

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
I will definitely get into it. I will not do
it without a chaser. I like my little system.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Yeah, but it's the thing about the Devil's reserve and
I don't know seated. Did you shoot that in the end?
You shot it right?

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
Yeah? It was delicious, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
It tastes like like spicy water. It was amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
Yes, it does it. I mean, don't get me wrong,
it's phenomenal. But like the argument for those it's like, oh,
you can have it like a shot, because it's easy
to have it like a shot. True, But the reality
is the things that are easy to shoot like that
are also good for making cocktails.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Granted, I'm putting it in fucking mountain dew, so it's
not like I'm some mixologist, but it works both ways.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
All Right, it's Quervo's Devil's Reserve. I keep getting it. Then,
never write the name wrong. Devil's Reserve brought to you
by Quervo. That will be on tap next Thursday. Our
third man soon to be revealed. Or maybe it's a
woman you're gonna have to find out. Okay, maybe it's
a small person. It's up to you tune in.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
If it has to be a porn star, who are
you picking.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
Rocko, No, no question, all right, just let me come
on here.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
I was thinking Cara or like Angela White, You're like,
I want a man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
I mean, I got that guy's legendar. I gotta, I gotta,
I gotta. That guy's obviously the grow one of the
grossest humans of all time. But shout out to mister
sir Frand you know what I.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Can't stand about him is he breathed through his teeth
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
I mean him and Chasey Lane back in the day.
Good lord, all right, enough of this.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Ps I stop talking and stop breathing through your fucking teeth,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Yeah, seriously, Long Island, Luke Nosda. What do we have
on tap for the main Card minute this weekend?

Speaker 7 (01:24:42):
Full Card Watch along tomorrow four pm. Join me in
GAFF Main Card Minute, be there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
B Square loves Haitian Combat Sports Stars. Shout out to
that guy. We love him as well. Uh that's our
show for this Friday, not live, but still in your
face where it belongs. Thank you so much for supporting us, guys,
We really really really appreciate it. Let's hope the second
half of this year continues to heat up in the

(01:25:07):
combat soon Hopefully, we'll find out where the UFC broadcasting
deal is going. Luke, did you see Manny Pacio said
he wants to come back in December?

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Yeah, I don't. I don't have any even the slightest
degree of eventuals.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Really, let me give you the opponent list that's being
talked about. Roly Tank, Brios, Floyd. Which one you want?
Which one you be?

Speaker 6 (01:25:27):
Zero?

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
None, go to retire?

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Come on if you have to pick one, come.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
On, oh none, zero, I don't give a fuck, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
Roly found God, he's turned his life around.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
You gotta che I don't. I don't believe that, and
nor do I care. It's like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
And I hope it burns in hell.

Speaker 9 (01:25:43):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
I mean, if Roy wants to keep fighting, that's cool,
But like Manny, I'm done. I'm super done.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
All right, all right, Luke, do you want to say
anything nice to our people on the way out here?

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
Thank you guys so much for watching. We appreciate it.
Morningcombat Dot shop for any of your goodies, your nugs,
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(01:26:12):
nine at nine pm, so after that they're gone.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
This is the chance be gone. Yeah, they're gone, so
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Thank you for joining us. Enjoy the fights this weekend, Luke,
enjoy your time on this little holiday. Shout out to Tuci.
She didn't run in this episode, big big win for you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
She ran in the pre show. She definitely ran in
the pre show.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
For Luke's lighting on BC. Look you like the devil there?
All right, we're out of here. Thank you. Yeah,
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