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S1 (00:01):
You're listening to mornings with Eric and Bridget here on
Moody Radio South Florida 89.3. Angela is joining us today,
and we're really looking forward to this next conversation because
we sometimes hear ministries in our community. But when you
get to kind of get the behind the scenes and
really celebrate what God's doing in them and through them
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and find out how we can join them, that's a
whole nother level.
S2 (00:24):
Oh, it sure is. I love kids, love everything about them,
love my own kids, love everyone else's kids. I was
part of an American Heritage Girls troop as the leader
of that children's ministry director at church, and I just
love seeing kids thrive, kids learning how to love Jesus.
And it just breaks my heart when I realize that
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that is not the opportunity that every child in our
community has. And that's why I'm so glad that this
morning we are welcoming for kids of South Florida President
Andrew Holmes, thank you so much for joining us this morning.
S3 (00:57):
Absolutely. Good morning. Good morning. It is such a joy
to be back with you both. I have to share.
Like a super small tidbit. I just found this out
walking in. This was my grandmother's favorite radio station. I
had no idea.
S1 (01:09):
Now how did you know that? How did you find
that out?
S3 (01:11):
I was texting my mom. I was like, mom, I'm
going to. I'm going to be joining Moody Radio this morning.
It's going to be really awesome. And she's like, that
was your grandmother's favorite radio station. So I was like, yes,
I'm around great people.
S1 (01:22):
Oh, full circle and shout out to your grandma and
your mom. They raised you right, I'm sure. Well, here
you are now. It's been I think you told me
nine months since you kind of ascended to that role
of president of for Kids of South Florida and for
those who are new to the ministry, just tell us
what you all do day in and day out.
S3 (01:41):
Yeah, uh, for kids is an incredible ministry. It is
really the compilation of years of service. We work with
churches in the South Florida region. We started out as
a foster care organization. That was the bulls eye and
will be the bulls eye. But as we've grown, we've
found we've had some of the best outcomes in the nation,
and God has opened up other doors for us to
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continue to further this mission, right? So not only do
we do foster care, but we do therapeutic services. And
we also got in the preventative space. And basically what
that means is not only are we finding homes for
these children who come into care, we're also ministering to
their biological families so that the the family unit can
stay together and keep kids out of the system all
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at the same time.
S1 (02:25):
Because kids thrive best when they're in and with their families.
I mean, that is so that is the goal. But
that can't always be the reality for some of the kids.
So can you paint a picture for those who are
unfamiliar with this issue? And obviously I know every child's
situation is different, but paint a picture for just the
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plight of the foster child. What is that like? What
do they experience? Why are they taken from their home
to begin with?
S3 (02:53):
Sure, yeah. And I can speak to this pretty accurately
because I used to do that. That was my origination
into the child welfare space. I was an investigator down
here at Child Protective Investigator. And basically children all across
South Florida, all across the state for that matter, are
coming into care daily and for really three main reasons.
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And that's abuse, neglect and abandonment, right? Abuse is it's
you can think of what that is. Neglect is, you know,
not being able to take care of your children properly.
And abandonment is simply when people leave their children at
a fire station. Or unfortunately, we see sometimes in the news,
babies are put in dumpsters and places like that that
would be considered abandonment. But the the number, the a
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couple of the main reasons kids are coming into foster
care right now in South Florida is because of inadequate
housing and inadequate supervision, and then also substance abuse. So
basically you can you can kind of see how that
makes sense with what's going on in our society. Right.
Like housing can be difficult. And and as that gets
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passed down now families are having a hard time finding homes,
which means kids are having not safe places to live,
which means they're coming into foster care.
S2 (04:06):
And how important is it for the church to be involved?
I know that's kind of the centerpiece of For Kids
is we have the church coming alongside the system. How
important is that?
S3 (04:17):
So you ask an incredible question. My belief, and I
believe I echo the belief of a lot of us
in this room and listeners today is the church is
the answer. I mean, not just in the foster care space,
but the church is the hope of the world. And
it just so happens to be that this mandate of
caring for the orphan, if you will, now, obviously, kids
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in foster care, we wouldn't label them as orphans. But
the biblical context of of being orphaned, of being without
a parent or parents is very, very applicable to these
children in the foster system. So the church's role is critical,
I believe, and the state would echo this, that the
church's involvement is paramount in really rectifying this issue. And
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I believe the reason why for kids has had such
great traction is because we we know that we don't
shy away from that. We are a faith based organization.
We are authentically Christian. We don't make any ifs, ands
or buts. No apologies. That is who we are and
we are that way because of the church.
S1 (05:19):
And it's amazing that as unapologetic as you are about that,
the state is still is saying, we need your help.
We need to know what you're doing because you're doing
it with excellence. So the state is saying, just help
us out here, right?
S3 (05:32):
Yeah. And and, you know, I think the reason for
that is outcomes. Outcomes, outcomes, outcomes. You know, it's one
thing to to say this about your organization or about
places you go to. It's another thing when it's backed
up with outcomes, you know, and some of those outcomes
for us. I'll give you something I actually heard this week. Um,
you know, right now in the state, they're experiencing a
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bit of a crisis. We've we've been down about 700
foster families statewide. That's the entirety of, of Florida. Um,
and even if you look through the database and see,
you know, most of these organizations are a net negative.
So what I mean by that is every year you
have foster families, new licenses that say, hey, I want
to foster. They come in and then you also have
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licenses that close, right? So it's like coming in to
school and graduating from school. Um, but one of the
things that we have been seeing as a trend over
the years is that there's less and less over the years. Well,
the state is down 700 families for kids is up families.
I think we're going to finish this year with a
net gain of 36 families, which might not seem like
a very big deal, but when you compare it to
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other organizations with maybe a celebration is that they maintained zero,
that they had no loss, no win. It's humongous. And
it's a testament to the church being the church and
how it affects our relationship with the state.
S2 (06:49):
Well, because you're really maintaining what the Bible tells. It's
it's Matthew chapter 18 that says anyone who welcomes a
little child like this on my behalf is welcoming me.
And I think when we really get that idea that
it's not about just kind of getting comfortable with our
own families or in our own marriages, just doing our
own thing. But it's really realizing that as we welcome
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these child, these children that don't have a home, we're
welcoming the Savior himself. How important is that?
S3 (07:17):
I mean, if you guys could see me on the radio,
I'm I'm lighting up right now because that's something that
is so dear to us at for kids. And I
want you to just you on, on on the listening
in right now. I want you to think about that
for a second. What was just said by welcoming one
of these little ones, you literally are welcoming Jesus. That
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is incredible to know that some of these very practical,
tangible things that we do with vulnerable children are actually
access points to encountering more of the presence of Jesus.
I mean, that's to me, that's mind blowing, you know?
S1 (07:54):
Right? We we say we want more of Jesus. Where
was Jesus when he walked this earth? He was amongst
the vulnerable. He was amongst the hurting. And when we
want more of him, sometimes, maybe if we get a
little closer to those types of people and invite them in,
we'll sense him a little bit more. As we reflect
his love to them. Yeah. We need to do we
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can we can do that. And that is the call
of for kids is to invite others to join you
in this work. So what are some practical ways that
people are listening that say, okay, I hear the need,
I want to be a part of it. What can
that look like for me?
S3 (08:30):
Yeah. Deep, deep dive is we need foster families. You know,
that's that's a that's a big one. So and that's
really a calling. And if you're out there today and
you want to have that conversation, just connect with us.
You can go to our website for us. That's the
number for kids and follow the prompts on our website.
That's a deep dive. That's not everybody. I'd love it
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to be everybody, but we know that's not everybody. Second
to that is is joining us in some of the
volunteer opportunities that we have, which you can also find
on our website. We do things like, uh, a family
advocacy ministry, which basically is an extended family for a
foster family. So things like meals and babysitting and mentoring
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and just being a prayer partner to our families, our
families actually need that. And we have data that shows
that this group of people actually helps us to foster
longer and stronger. A data point on that is our
stability rate. So the state of Florida has this stability rate,
which basically is how many, how many times a child
would move in in the course of a thousand days,
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about three years. And right now it's, it's it's really,
really high. It's like 4.8. So let's just call it five.
So think about that. A child would move five times
in three years. Different homes different possibly different schools. That's
a lot of trauma. Well the four kids homes praise
God with this type of fam support. That number is
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is right about one. So that means that kids aren't
moving in a four kids home because of things that
we talked about. So being a part of that volunteer
circle around a foster family is humongous. And then there
are also other ways to to join in and be
a part of our prayer team. There's ways to support
us with resources, things like that. And all of that
can be found on our website.
S1 (10:18):
And thankfully we do have a link to their website
as well at org. And one thing you said that
really stuck out to me is that that support system
that every foster family has. I was talking to a
friend who has done that, and she said it was
so helpful to have people who would come and babysit.
And the thing is, is that not everybody can. She
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couldn't take the foster kid to her mother for, say,
or her or her grandmother, because you do have to
be you have to go through a process and vetted.
And so when you have people that you can go
to has already been through the process, that's helpful for
every foster family.
S3 (10:53):
Yeah, absolutely. And we do that. Um, we actually clear
our caregivers in our volunteer department. So to your point, Bridget,
it's it's not just there's a specialization, if you will.
You have to kind of understand, you know, when kids
have gone through trauma, their brains develop a little bit differently.
And to have some tools to help navigate that, it's
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not impossible. It's actually really rewarding. But and it's actually
benefited me and my in the parenting of my biological children,
because you have more tools as a parent, more tools
as a caregiver. So that's something that's an added benefit
that our volunteers receive when they decide to become cleared caregivers.
S2 (11:35):
Yesterday I was watching a friend's kiddo and we were
singing This Little Light of mine. And so we got
out a flashlight and we were just. And he just
started dancing around the room with his flashlight, this little
light of mine. And it's almost like the word picture
that God gave me this morning as I was looking
at just what four kids is doing, is you're really
that beacon in the community saying, I'm going to let
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my light shine because it's Jesus that we're directing these
kids and these families to. Right?
S3 (12:02):
Yeah, absolutely. And that's the ultimate goal, right? It's it's
funny as as leading now this organization, you know, it's
it's really easy to say we are the best organization
that ever, you know, just because of this natural affinity
I have toward this space and the calling that God
has given me. But when you zoom out and look
at this through the larger capital C kind of church perspective,
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we know our piece and we are very passionate about
our piece. But ultimately, I think the highest prize of
anyone that that joins in a ministry is, number one,
loving God with all your heart, soul and strength. And
we get to do that through the vertical of serving
vulnerable children and families. And then second is loving our
neighbor also the Great Commission, those who don't know the
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Lord yet. And we get to shine that light to
be that, that salt and light to these children early,
early on. I mean, when a kid comes into care,
when a child is is experiencing some of the deepest
pains of their life, and the very first person that
houses them is somebody that believes and knows and has
a real relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. To administer
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that healing in them, it changes literally destinies.
S1 (13:14):
We're talking with Andrew Holmes, president of For Kids of
South Florida. You can find out about their ministry at. But, Andrew,
before we let you go, maybe you can give just
a story, maybe a testimony that just shines a light
on the power of what God is doing through four kids.
S3 (13:30):
I love it, so I'll be as brief as possible.
We had a mother, a younger mother who who wanted
to be a foster mom with us, and she didn't
have any kids, but she knew in her heart she
was supposed to be a mother. And she went went
through the process and thought, maybe I should be a
foster family. She tried and and it didn't work out.
And then she saw it at one church she went to.
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And then the next weekend she went to another church.
And then when she moved into her new house, when
they gave her the keys, there was a four kids
keychain on the key. So she said okay, got him
paying attention. She's a nurse. Okay. She goes to the process.
At the same time, there's this little baby that comes
into care, born premature because he was substance exposed, we
call it. And this baby had to spend time in
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the NICU. It just so happened to be that this
NICU on the second floor of this hospital was the
exact same place that this mother was working. And when
we called her and let her know that this was
your placement, she was able to visit that baby for
the 3 or 4 weeks before the baby even came
into her home, to the point where when she would
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walk into the hospital room, the baby would look for
her because that relationship was built. Only God can do
stuff like that.
S1 (14:42):
Only God can do that. And but he invites us
to be a part of these stories. And for kids
of South Florida is providing that opportunity. We'd love for
you to find out about this ministry ways to plug
in as well. We've got their link on our website.
Eric and Bridget. Dot.