May 8, 2025 • 12 mins
Our identity as God's daughters has been contested, both inside and outside of the church, and we're left wondering where we belong. Thursday on Mornings with Eric and Brigitte, author Amy Seiffert will join Mornings with Eric and Brigitte to share stories of the unsung women of the Bible that will empower both women and men to stand firm, and to exchange fear and doubt for confidence and faith.
Your Name Is Daughter — Amy Seiffert
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S1 (00:05):
You're listening to mornings with Eric and Bridget right here
on Moody Radio 89.3.
S2 (00:10):
What's in a name? That's a question that's been asked
for centuries, perhaps. And, you know, it gets to the
fact that our name really is a big part of
our identity. And sometimes we go by the wrong names,
like unloved or unwanted. Those are obviously wrong when we
think about our name as, as far as our Heavenly
(00:31):
Father and how he looks at us, because the next
book that we're talking about here is that your name
is daughter. Daughter is a beloved. Daughters are wanted.
S1 (00:40):
Yeah. I mean, we had a conversation about adoption yesterday
and that was such to me. It really impacted me.
It was a wonderful time to remember not just that
there are children who are needed and then and wanted
and then accepted and become part of a family. But really,
that is such a picture of who we are in
(01:02):
Christ because we are adopted as his child. When we
receive that free gift of salvation, and he calls us
sons and daughters, and that, like you said, that is
so important. And sometimes in the busyness of life, we
forget that very fact that he has called us and
calls us by name.
S2 (01:22):
But our identities can be marred in this broken world.
And that's why Amy, Amy Seifert is joining us. She's
author of Your Name Is Daughter. We can sometimes not
realize how beloved we are and believe the lies of
the world or culture, our own insecurities, and forget our
identity in him, can't we?
S3 (01:44):
Yes, absolutely. Good morning.
S2 (01:46):
Good morning.
S1 (01:46):
Good morning. What is important for you in this whole conversation,
this this journey that you've been taking with these women
as you've been studying them. How has it changed your
perspective in who you are in Christ.
S3 (02:00):
Yeah. Um, I think one of the biggest, um, perspective
shifts was really being struck by how we know one
of the women who's who's nameless called the bleeding woman
in Luke eight and Mark five. I mean, we know
her by her condition, by her issues, by her problems. Right? Like,
she's got this, this thing going on for 12 years.
(02:24):
And yes, there's healing that happens. Like Jesus heals her,
but he also heals her by calling her daughter. And
so now she goes by being known by her condition
as a bleeding woman, as being known by her position
as daughter of the Most High King. And I think
it's fascinating that that was a specific name and call
(02:45):
he gave her, who was so penniless and needed a
whole shift in her life.
S2 (02:52):
And she would have been in that society, rejected. She
would have been isolated, but he's calling her a name
that's inviting her in. And I think that's just that's
what we see when we see our Savior and how
we treated so many of the women he interacted with. Right.
It's not what we may sometimes think, but what we
(03:13):
see is that that love and that invitation.
S3 (03:17):
Yes, yes, so many invitations, in fact, um, you know,
the famous story of of Mary and Martha and, um,
Mary is sitting at Jesus feet with the rest of disciples.
She's she's learning from the disciples. And Martha gets so frustrated,
it's like, tell her to help me, you know? Um,
and he's like, she's chosen a really good thing. It's
(03:39):
it's a beautiful thing for her to be here learning
among the men who are training to become rabbis. He
has invited her, like you said, invited her to be
a learner, to be a disciple, to to follow her.
And so this is a really good thing. Like, I
know you're worried about this, but I'm inviting her in. Yeah,
there's there's such invitations all over the gospels, from Jesus
(03:59):
to women.
S1 (04:00):
You know, there's the superstar women of the Bible, the
the esthers and Ruth, you know, the ones that we
we know their stories. But there's others. We know their story,
but there's they're a little hidden. They're unsung. You call them.
What was important about you looking into their story, as
opposed to some of the larger ones that we kind
(04:21):
of look at a lot?
S3 (04:23):
Yeah, I think that we have become really familiar with
the big the big stories of those you just named.
But I think when we keep adding to it and
keep uncovering, there's actually so many more women and what
they were doing who had really influential parts in redemptive narratives,
like it just adds up. It just helps women see
(04:44):
how much God is saying, you belong in my story.
You are partnering with me. So I just wanted to
to just kind of add more and more and more
to the pile that are unfamiliar and kind of boost
our faith in who we are as daughters.
S2 (04:56):
So give us an example. Who's an unsung woman of
the Bible?
S3 (05:00):
Yeah. Okay. Huldah is a gem that I found that
I had never heard of before. Um, you will find
her in, um. I think it's Kings second Kings 22. Um,
she's just this this blip in the story, but, man,
she's powerful. It's when King Josiah is cleaning out the temple,
(05:20):
and he's, um, getting rid of all the idols. Um,
and he finds the book of the law, and he.
He reads it and he weeps, and he tears his clothes,
and he's like, what? What has happened here? Like, I
want someone to authenticate this law. And he goes, he
sends five men to a woman, a prophetess named Huldah,
(05:43):
who's in the city gates. Um, what's interesting is Huldah
is the wife of the keeper of the king's wardrobe.
He had just torn his clothes in grief. Um. five
men go and knock on her door and they stand there.
I mean, can you imagine five men from the president's
office arriving at your door saying hi? We're wondering if
(06:03):
you can authenticate this document we found. And she says, hey,
she gives a word like, yes, the Lord is is
angered by how much you have forsaken him. But you,
King Josiah, you will be blessed because you're following him.
You've grieved. And because of this word that Josiah receives
back from Huldah. I mean, they, the nation turns and
(06:25):
they repent, and they they shift because of this, this
woman that I had read over, I guess I had
missed her. So I was so encouraged to see Huldah
during the time of other prophets like Jeremiah, Isaiah, she's
there and she does a significant move in, in the
redemptive story.
S1 (06:43):
It's so funny that you say she was the wife
of the person in charge of the King's clothes. I
can just see her sitting there fixing the hem of
everything he had just ripped. So frustrated. I can't believe
I have to fix this. I got to find a
patch for this, and she's probably in there with a
needle and thread, and these five guys show up and say,
(07:04):
what's going on here? And she's like, you got to
be kidding me. I just that might not have been it,
but I'm just kind of thinking through the process of
what it was like for her. That's that's a fascinating story.
You just related to us, and I think it does
point to how you have you have worth. You have purpose.
You you can really, uh, encourage others. I think that's
(07:24):
what it was. She encouraged not just the king, but
the nation. Really?
S3 (07:28):
Yeah. I mean, and she spoke with authority about God's word.
And because of that, they took her word back. It's
it's unique to that. They didn't summon her to the kingdom.
He sent people. He sent five men to her. Um,
and then she spoke God's word, and she she prophesied,
and they went back. I mean, there's a lot of
different dynamics happening here, but because of her word, things changed.
S1 (07:51):
The other thing that's interesting, I think of the book,
you bookend it, you talk about the naming daughter. That's
in the beginning of it. That's kind of where our
life starts. We're all named at the beginning of our life.
At the very end, though, you talk about grandmothers and
the importance they have also.
S3 (08:06):
Yeah, yeah. Eunice and Lois, um, there's some of my favorite, uh,
named people by Paul. Yeah. Paul is saying to Timothy
who he's left to, to pastor some churches, and he's saying, um, hey, Timothy,
like fan into flame the the faith that I see
in you. And I first saw it in, in your,
(08:29):
your mother and your grandmother in Lois and Eunice. Um,
and so we don't get Timothy's faith and pastoral ministry
if we don't have Lois in us, if we don't
have the grandmothers and mothers who deposited that faith, and
which was really important because he was his father was Greek. Um,
so he was he doesn't come from a Jewish father,
but this is the lineage and faith of his mother
(08:51):
and grandmother, which I'm like, hey, we need the wisdom
of the generations that have gone before us to say, hey,
I'm still walking with God. This is this is who
I've seen God to be faithful for and for them
to deposit that into us.
S2 (09:04):
We are talking with Amy Seifert, who's author of Your
Name is Daughter What the Unsung Women of the Bible
Teach Us about Our Worth and Why I think this
message is so important, Amy. I'll never forget a time,
a meeting a young lady who I hadn't seen in
many years and she unfortunately had kind of grown cold
(09:25):
towards the church and faith. And her main reason was
what she perceived as women having not being valued in
the church. And so she almost like, pointed her finger
at me, like, how can you, uh, you know, be
a part of something like that that's putting you and
others down. And, you know, it kind of caught me
(09:46):
off guard. And I'm kind of one of those people
that I need to process things at times. And so
I don't know if I had the best answer for
her at the time. But as I again, look at
what you're talking about and just read the word I see,
oh boy, she's missing it. While others may have gotten
it wrong, Jesus did not get it wrong in how
he treasured women. But sometimes there's a wrong perception.
S3 (10:09):
Yeah. Yes, you're absolutely right. I, I think if we
look at the whole narrative, um, beginning in, in Eden,
when before everything unraveled, before the fall in Genesis three,
we can't forget Genesis one and two, where male and female,
he created them in their in God's image. And he
(10:29):
blessed them. He blessed them and commissioned them together, um,
to to go and bring more Eden into the world.
Before the curse, there was blessing of both men and
women and then everything unraveled. But we see that God's
whole desire is to continue to get us back to Eden.
And at the very end in revelation, we're in Eden again.
(10:52):
The new heaven, the new earth, where, where things are restored,
where things have gotten distorted, especially for women, they are restored.
That is God's desire.
S1 (11:01):
So how can we combat the lies that the world
is sending us, that we have in our own head?
How do we combat those lies with these stories that
you're telling us?
S3 (11:11):
Yeah, I think like, story replacement is huge. I wanted
to give different men and women all the stories of
what they are doing so that we could begin to say, oh,
I've had this narrative and it's old, and I need
to replace it with these women who are influential, who
are blessed and loved by God, who are commissioned, who
are called, who are teaching, who are preaching, who are
(11:32):
doing all the things. So my hope is that through
all these different stories, we change the old narrative and see,
oh my gosh, women are everywhere doing everything in every
kind of way.
S1 (11:44):
I think that's kind of the problem at times though, too.
My wife is busy. She's a mom. She she works.
I mean, the the hurriedness of life could probably be
part of that problem you're talking about.
S3 (11:58):
Yeah. Yeah. It's true. Um, and truly, it it is hard. Um,
I think one of the gifts is even just slowing
down for a minute or two. And, you know, obviously,
I'm plugging my book, but reading a page or two
I really think could encourage you of how you were
made and who you are, even in the chaos of life,
(12:19):
to begin to ground us when we feel like, what
are we even doing? Oh wait, I'm a beloved daughter
of the King, and I'm going to walk out of
my position and not the condition of the king of
my life right now.
S1 (12:30):
Chaos is a good word.
S2 (12:32):
Yes. Your name is daughter with the unsung women of
the Bible. Teach us about our Worth by Amy Seifert.
We have a link to her website where you can
find out about this resource at Eric and Bridget dot.
You're listening to mornings with Eric and Bridget right here
on Moody Radio 89.3.
S2 (00:10):
What's in a name? That's a question that's been asked
for centuries, perhaps. And, you know, it gets to the
fact that our name really is a big part of
our identity. And sometimes we go by the wrong names,
like unloved or unwanted. Those are obviously wrong when we
think about our name as, as far as our Heavenly
(00:31):
Father and how he looks at us, because the next
book that we're talking about here is that your name
is daughter. Daughter is a beloved. Daughters are wanted.
S1 (00:40):
Yeah. I mean, we had a conversation about adoption yesterday
and that was such to me. It really impacted me.
It was a wonderful time to remember not just that
there are children who are needed and then and wanted
and then accepted and become part of a family. But really,
that is such a picture of who we are in
(01:02):
Christ because we are adopted as his child. When we
receive that free gift of salvation, and he calls us
sons and daughters, and that, like you said, that is
so important. And sometimes in the busyness of life, we
forget that very fact that he has called us and
calls us by name.
S2 (01:22):
But our identities can be marred in this broken world.
And that's why Amy, Amy Seifert is joining us. She's
author of Your Name Is Daughter. We can sometimes not
realize how beloved we are and believe the lies of
the world or culture, our own insecurities, and forget our
identity in him, can't we?
S3 (01:44):
Yes, absolutely. Good morning.
S2 (01:46):
Good morning.
S1 (01:46):
Good morning. What is important for you in this whole conversation,
this this journey that you've been taking with these women
as you've been studying them. How has it changed your
perspective in who you are in Christ.
S3 (02:00):
Yeah. Um, I think one of the biggest, um, perspective
shifts was really being struck by how we know one
of the women who's who's nameless called the bleeding woman
in Luke eight and Mark five. I mean, we know
her by her condition, by her issues, by her problems. Right? Like,
she's got this, this thing going on for 12 years.
(02:24):
And yes, there's healing that happens. Like Jesus heals her,
but he also heals her by calling her daughter. And
so now she goes by being known by her condition
as a bleeding woman, as being known by her position
as daughter of the Most High King. And I think
it's fascinating that that was a specific name and call
(02:45):
he gave her, who was so penniless and needed a
whole shift in her life.
S2 (02:52):
And she would have been in that society, rejected. She
would have been isolated, but he's calling her a name
that's inviting her in. And I think that's just that's
what we see when we see our Savior and how
we treated so many of the women he interacted with. Right.
It's not what we may sometimes think, but what we
(03:13):
see is that that love and that invitation.
S3 (03:17):
Yes, yes, so many invitations, in fact, um, you know,
the famous story of of Mary and Martha and, um,
Mary is sitting at Jesus feet with the rest of disciples.
She's she's learning from the disciples. And Martha gets so frustrated,
it's like, tell her to help me, you know? Um,
and he's like, she's chosen a really good thing. It's
(03:39):
it's a beautiful thing for her to be here learning
among the men who are training to become rabbis. He
has invited her, like you said, invited her to be
a learner, to be a disciple, to to follow her.
And so this is a really good thing. Like, I
know you're worried about this, but I'm inviting her in. Yeah,
there's there's such invitations all over the gospels, from Jesus
(03:59):
to women.
S1 (04:00):
You know, there's the superstar women of the Bible, the
the esthers and Ruth, you know, the ones that we
we know their stories. But there's others. We know their story,
but there's they're a little hidden. They're unsung. You call them.
What was important about you looking into their story, as
opposed to some of the larger ones that we kind
(04:21):
of look at a lot?
S3 (04:23):
Yeah, I think that we have become really familiar with
the big the big stories of those you just named.
But I think when we keep adding to it and
keep uncovering, there's actually so many more women and what
they were doing who had really influential parts in redemptive narratives,
like it just adds up. It just helps women see
(04:44):
how much God is saying, you belong in my story.
You are partnering with me. So I just wanted to
to just kind of add more and more and more
to the pile that are unfamiliar and kind of boost
our faith in who we are as daughters.
S2 (04:56):
So give us an example. Who's an unsung woman of
the Bible?
S3 (05:00):
Yeah. Okay. Huldah is a gem that I found that
I had never heard of before. Um, you will find
her in, um. I think it's Kings second Kings 22. Um,
she's just this this blip in the story, but, man,
she's powerful. It's when King Josiah is cleaning out the temple,
(05:20):
and he's, um, getting rid of all the idols. Um,
and he finds the book of the law, and he.
He reads it and he weeps, and he tears his clothes,
and he's like, what? What has happened here? Like, I
want someone to authenticate this law. And he goes, he
sends five men to a woman, a prophetess named Huldah,
(05:43):
who's in the city gates. Um, what's interesting is Huldah
is the wife of the keeper of the king's wardrobe.
He had just torn his clothes in grief. Um. five
men go and knock on her door and they stand there.
I mean, can you imagine five men from the president's
office arriving at your door saying hi? We're wondering if
(06:03):
you can authenticate this document we found. And she says, hey,
she gives a word like, yes, the Lord is is
angered by how much you have forsaken him. But you,
King Josiah, you will be blessed because you're following him.
You've grieved. And because of this word that Josiah receives
back from Huldah. I mean, they, the nation turns and
(06:25):
they repent, and they they shift because of this, this
woman that I had read over, I guess I had
missed her. So I was so encouraged to see Huldah
during the time of other prophets like Jeremiah, Isaiah, she's
there and she does a significant move in, in the
redemptive story.
S1 (06:43):
It's so funny that you say she was the wife
of the person in charge of the King's clothes. I
can just see her sitting there fixing the hem of
everything he had just ripped. So frustrated. I can't believe
I have to fix this. I got to find a
patch for this, and she's probably in there with a
needle and thread, and these five guys show up and say,
(07:04):
what's going on here? And she's like, you got to
be kidding me. I just that might not have been it,
but I'm just kind of thinking through the process of
what it was like for her. That's that's a fascinating story.
You just related to us, and I think it does
point to how you have you have worth. You have purpose.
You you can really, uh, encourage others. I think that's
(07:24):
what it was. She encouraged not just the king, but
the nation. Really?
S3 (07:28):
Yeah. I mean, and she spoke with authority about God's word.
And because of that, they took her word back. It's
it's unique to that. They didn't summon her to the kingdom.
He sent people. He sent five men to her. Um,
and then she spoke God's word, and she she prophesied,
and they went back. I mean, there's a lot of
different dynamics happening here, but because of her word, things changed.
S1 (07:51):
The other thing that's interesting, I think of the book,
you bookend it, you talk about the naming daughter. That's
in the beginning of it. That's kind of where our
life starts. We're all named at the beginning of our life.
At the very end, though, you talk about grandmothers and
the importance they have also.
S3 (08:06):
Yeah, yeah. Eunice and Lois, um, there's some of my favorite, uh,
named people by Paul. Yeah. Paul is saying to Timothy
who he's left to, to pastor some churches, and he's saying, um, hey, Timothy,
like fan into flame the the faith that I see
in you. And I first saw it in, in your,
(08:29):
your mother and your grandmother in Lois and Eunice. Um,
and so we don't get Timothy's faith and pastoral ministry
if we don't have Lois in us, if we don't
have the grandmothers and mothers who deposited that faith, and
which was really important because he was his father was Greek. Um,
so he was he doesn't come from a Jewish father,
but this is the lineage and faith of his mother
(08:51):
and grandmother, which I'm like, hey, we need the wisdom
of the generations that have gone before us to say, hey,
I'm still walking with God. This is this is who
I've seen God to be faithful for and for them
to deposit that into us.
S2 (09:04):
We are talking with Amy Seifert, who's author of Your
Name is Daughter What the Unsung Women of the Bible
Teach Us about Our Worth and Why I think this
message is so important, Amy. I'll never forget a time,
a meeting a young lady who I hadn't seen in
many years and she unfortunately had kind of grown cold
(09:25):
towards the church and faith. And her main reason was
what she perceived as women having not being valued in
the church. And so she almost like, pointed her finger
at me, like, how can you, uh, you know, be
a part of something like that that's putting you and
others down. And, you know, it kind of caught me
(09:46):
off guard. And I'm kind of one of those people
that I need to process things at times. And so
I don't know if I had the best answer for
her at the time. But as I again, look at
what you're talking about and just read the word I see,
oh boy, she's missing it. While others may have gotten
it wrong, Jesus did not get it wrong in how
he treasured women. But sometimes there's a wrong perception.
S3 (10:09):
Yeah. Yes, you're absolutely right. I, I think if we
look at the whole narrative, um, beginning in, in Eden,
when before everything unraveled, before the fall in Genesis three,
we can't forget Genesis one and two, where male and female,
he created them in their in God's image. And he
(10:29):
blessed them. He blessed them and commissioned them together, um,
to to go and bring more Eden into the world.
Before the curse, there was blessing of both men and
women and then everything unraveled. But we see that God's
whole desire is to continue to get us back to Eden.
And at the very end in revelation, we're in Eden again.
(10:52):
The new heaven, the new earth, where, where things are restored,
where things have gotten distorted, especially for women, they are restored.
That is God's desire.
S1 (11:01):
So how can we combat the lies that the world
is sending us, that we have in our own head?
How do we combat those lies with these stories that
you're telling us?
S3 (11:11):
Yeah, I think like, story replacement is huge. I wanted
to give different men and women all the stories of
what they are doing so that we could begin to say, oh,
I've had this narrative and it's old, and I need
to replace it with these women who are influential, who
are blessed and loved by God, who are commissioned, who
are called, who are teaching, who are preaching, who are
(11:32):
doing all the things. So my hope is that through
all these different stories, we change the old narrative and see,
oh my gosh, women are everywhere doing everything in every
kind of way.
S1 (11:44):
I think that's kind of the problem at times though, too.
My wife is busy. She's a mom. She she works.
I mean, the the hurriedness of life could probably be
part of that problem you're talking about.
S3 (11:58):
Yeah. Yeah. It's true. Um, and truly, it it is hard. Um,
I think one of the gifts is even just slowing
down for a minute or two. And, you know, obviously,
I'm plugging my book, but reading a page or two
I really think could encourage you of how you were
made and who you are, even in the chaos of life,
(12:19):
to begin to ground us when we feel like, what
are we even doing? Oh wait, I'm a beloved daughter
of the King, and I'm going to walk out of
my position and not the condition of the king of
my life right now.
S1 (12:30):
Chaos is a good word.
S2 (12:32):
Yes. Your name is daughter with the unsung women of
the Bible. Teach us about our Worth by Amy Seifert.
We have a link to her website where you can
find out about this resource at Eric and Bridget dot.
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