Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
You're gonna have to challenge yourself because you will get
challenged by life, by a game, by business, by entrepreneurship.
There are always going to be challenges to overcome. You
have to love what you do every day because those
days that are hard, those days that suck, that's where
the magic is. You go do it and you get
your work in anyway, because that's where you're gonna find
(00:31):
out who you are. That's where things are going to
continue to happen. And you have to just love putting
in the daily.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Work because that's another.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Token in the bank if you will, if you're showing up,
you know, striving towards your goal. You have to really
really believe in what you're doing and you have to
have faith that it's going to work out. But you
got to keep putting the work in because if you don't,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Going to come to you and it's just.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Not you know, going to fall in.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You'll have and sometimes when you know that, all right,
I'm going through it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Right now, this is tough.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Let's just take an inch forward. Let's go an inch
forward today. That'll be better than going backward.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
You don't want to go back, not only finding your why,
but finding that thing that you love to do, Find
that thing you love doing, because when you get to
the why, you know, having a love for something from
the beginning.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
That's a great why. That's a great start right.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
There, and then you can build on top of that,
because if you're not really loving what you're doing, and
then when it comes.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
To the why, you won't you'll kind of fall.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Short a little bit, or you'll struggle and more so,
you know, I want to challenge people to think about
those things.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You know, why, yeah, why are you doing this?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You know, just getting to that point of really thinking deeply.
And that's one of the things that we say within
the book as well, to think deeply. And you you know,
you can get pretty deep pretty quick.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know, I want to do X, Why because of why? Well?
Why because of Z?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
And then you know, sometimes we'll get to a point
where we can't even.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Answer that question.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But the question is the starting point and the love
is the starting point to get there. So when you
get to those dog days, the day you feel.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
That you can't do it, or you don't feel like
doing it, or you just want to go away.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
The love of it.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
If you don't do anything, you know, if you're doing
something you don't love, you'll probably stop, you know, or
when it's time to push yourself a little further.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You probably you might not scrape everything. You might look
at it, but you might not scrape the depths.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
It's disappointing to hear people, you.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Know, fall short because they said, oh, well, you know, it.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Was hard, or I got something happened, or you know,
it's always a description of some obstacle, you know, And
I always try to make sure that I had my
wy intact, but also to have the love first, you know,
because if you don't love it first, then you know you're.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Not gonna get very hard. A lot of.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Adults and you know kids sometimes too, going through that
process of being beginner.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
A beginner is a frustrating process.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And if someone is feeling.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Frustrated, I say, good, good job. That means you're That
means you're working, That means you're doing something.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You know, a lot of people will think.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That they're supposed to play the guitar like led Zeppelin
as soon as they pick it up, you know, and
it's just not going to happen. It does not happen
like that. You cannot cheat the process. You have to
go from a beginner and to advanced beginner, intermediate and
so on and so forth. But you know, you have
to be okay with knowing that, you know, the word
(03:49):
of the day, challenges, right are.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Going to arise, if you're going to feel like you
suck and all.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Of these things, that is totally normal. I think sometimes
people need to know that that feeling as normal.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
People just have to be okay. If you want to
really go for something and start over, you have to
be okay with being a beginner.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And you know, I had no problem with that. I've
tried to really really.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Dive into it and put myself, you know, submerge myself
into being a beginner and to love, you know, love
the struggle. Love not knowing what's going to happen next,
not knowing how I'm going to overcome this next thing
because I'm going to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Eventually, because I'm not going to quit. I love it
when somebody tells me I can't do something, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That's that's cool. It's like challenge game on, you know
what I mean? You know, and that always got me
fired up too, and especially in athletics, that's That's definitely
one of.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
The huge, huge motivators that I think a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Of leaders and coaches hughes is that yeah they think,
you know, they think that you can't do it, and yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Can fire you up.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
And you need that sometimes, especially.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
On those days and you don't want to get out
of bed.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
You do have to have that fire and that spirit
to be able to go after something.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
You definitely can't attack the mountain.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Without a running start. I do believe in that.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I do think you do have to have some fire
and some intensity. So in getting that, you use whatever
fuel you can as long as you're positive and working
toward that goal. Like I keep saying, if somebody says
something you didn't like and that fires you up, man,
use it. Use it all day every day. You take
it one step at a time. I hate to be cliche,
(05:26):
but you take it one step at a time, and
you know, you push through it, you find a way
to get through.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It, whatever you do.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Don't stop when you hit that wall of being tired,
that's when you're starting. Because essentially, you know, what I
learned from competing against the best was that every single
game we're knocking on that door. I mean you're going
to be the most exhausted that you've ever been in
your life, and there's still going to be things that
you have to accomplish.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So you have to.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Still be sound and body and in mind.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And you still have to remember what the game plan is,
am I supposed to be doing right now? Because when
you find and through that is finding the why. So
I always wanted to be successful, you know, I wanted
nothing more than to be a professional basketball player and
be successful and win games and be.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Like Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I really learned after coming up short losing in the
championship in twenty eleven. You know that internal voice, you
know that the good one pretty much told me, Okay,
well that's what it feels like, and we really do
have to get up, pick ourselves up, and get back
on the horse. And it was, you know, it was devastating,
(06:42):
you know, going through a losing situation when you don't
think you're gonna lose, especially when it's.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
On national TV.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
But one thing that I learned.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Was, Okay, that's that's what it feels like.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
That's what that's what we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
So the next time I'm scratch, you know, scratching the depths,
and I'm pushing myself when I'm by myself in practice,
I'm going to push a little more because now I
know what the real pain is. You know, I thought
I knew what pain.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Is when I was working out.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I thought I knew what pain.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Is when I thought I was pushing myself.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
But then when you play eighty two games plus preseason
and you know, off season workouts, just to get knocked
off the mountaintop, it hurts tremendously. And one thing that
did was taught me how to bounce back. But you know,
it toughened us up a little bit and we were
okay and ready and willing to put the correct work in.
(07:39):
And when it's time to push each other or pull
each other through situations when it gets hard, we're willing.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
To do it because we know that, you know, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Really feel good. One of the.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Words I always like to use its perseverance. You know,
you have to have perseverance because you know, like I
said before.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Not every day you're gonna feel like doing.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
What you do.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You're not gonna feel good every day.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Every day your goal will not be accomplished like that
you know, we're gonna spend a lot more days working
than we aren't celebrating. You know, eventually you're gonna have
to have that perseverance to be able to have the
toughness to keep going.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You know, I've seen so many people stop, you.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Know, And then the best analogy was kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
You have you ever seen the races where the guy
or the girl.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Is running and they look at the crowd and they're
doing this, somebody's right behind them and catches them.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's kind of like the analogy.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
That I like to use because I've seen so many
people stop short.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
If you're frightened, that's fine. If you're scared, that's fine.
You eventually have to rise to the occasion.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Rise to the occasion, because when you practice, you have
to put yourself in those moments continuous, over and over
and over, so that when they come, you just do what.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You've done, and you know, to.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Give myself comfort and to say, hey, I've been here before,
you know, I know what this is going to be like.
I'm gonna give my best. This is why I put
the work in time after time, day after date, night
after night. So when and if that situation arises.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I can trust myself.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I know that I can be confident because I know
without a doubt that I've done what needs to be done.
I'm confident, and you can be brave about that and
go into it and be confident in the heat of
competition when you really really want something, You're gonna be
tired sometimes and there might be a loose ball that
you have to get and you can't really.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Think about how tired you are.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
And in the daily practice of pushing yourself, you have
to know how far you can go.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I had this coach.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
We would have to run am ound pretty much three
times a week, and it was so hard because by
that after that first lap, you get that little person
on your shower's saying please just stop, can you please stop?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So that we could just stop.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And in getting through that sometimes you find out like, wow,
I didn't feel like doing it today, but I ran
my best time, or I kept going and I had
more left in the tank than what I thought.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
You know, you don't want to put.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Limitations on it. You want to push the limitations daily