44. Idle Hands

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So you are a ransom now? You.
Don't know what death is? Be afraid.

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Be very afraid. Welcome to the madness.
We are the Mouths of Madness, your new favorite podcast for
horror movie reviews. We're coming to you live
tonight. Well, from many locations.
This is our episode 44 on the 1999 Idle Hands and it is the
start of Mad Tober 2025. My name is Kevin and well, our

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venture at Madness U has had an early exit here.
Unfortunately, we've had a little bit of a backlash after
one of our faculty members had some alleged situation was that
Burke Dennings that had that. Yeah, I think Burt, Burt got a
little bit, let's just call it racially charged in some of his

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lectures. It seems to be an alien pubic
hat in my gene. It inspired quite a bit of
protests and general problems with matriculation over the long
term. So we had to really, we had to
go back to the drawing board on that one.
And ultimately, I think we had to, we had to, we had to close
up. Honestly I just thought he was
legitimately talking about like extra industrial aliens, not

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like foreigners. Yikes.
Well, we've decided to open our own paranormal investigation
company called Druistic Investigation and Elimination
known as DIE. Yes, it's work in progress.
Currently, I'm in the town of Haddon Field in a remote
location. Well, it's a closet and I'm

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currently getting ready to stalkthe serial killer known as
Michael Myers. I'm unraveling a coat hanger as
we speak. It's it's going to get pretty
scary in here soon. All right, well, let's go out to
the field and check in with the other members of Madness.
First, we have Dan. Dan, where are you at currently?
Kevin, I am. I'm reporting to you live at the

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the Bohemian Grove. I'm I'm investigating the the
Abraxas cult. There is some eyes Wide shut
shit popping off out here. It's getting weird and oh oh
fuck, I think they saw me. We.
Have such sights to show you. Hey, Kevin, can you radio the
chopper to pick me up for emergency evac?
Things are things are getting a little dicey up in here and I'm

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worried about my my person. Let me let me hit buttons here.
I think I hit the right one. All right, Next, let's go to
Bear Claw out in the field. Where are you at, Bear Claw?
Are you in the woods? Yeah, guys, I'm out here in the
woods looking for some cryptids out here, you know, Bigfoot,
Mothman, skin walkers, whatever I can find out here.

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You know, just pretty much all that's happened is I found a
bunch of mosquitoes that have pretty much destroyed me.
But just walking around and oh, oh, I just stepped in.
Something foul stinks out here. Yeah.
I don't know. I I just, I think I might.
This looks like a bear. I don't know.
But there's these like, big footprints next to it.
I I don't know, guys, it's dark.I'm alone.

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I don't know about these Kryptids but I'm looking around
and I'm getting a little scared.Bear clock, get back to
headquarters right away. Yeah, I I got to get out of
here. Finally, we have the youngest
member of madness, my son Logan Logan's hunting down some dose.
Logan, are you in an old Victorian house?
Where are you? Wow, I'm chilling out here.

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You know, I I heard of a little bit of prom here in this
Victorian house. Her demons were backing up the
toilets here. Something about enchiladas.
I don't know, man, it's weird. I am currently in the kitchen.
I got really hungry, looking around for ghosts.
I got bored. I see some nutmeg and oregano.
Oh, fresh fennel, man, it's goodin here.
I don't know about you guys, butI'm having a wonderful time.

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Love some fresh fennel. Oh, Fennel.
Oh my goodness, I I think I've been heard all this talking.
Oh, we better make this episode quick.
Let's let's get to it. There are a lot of other great
horror movie podcasts out there,but what separates us from the
other ones is that we're going to be giving you the older
versus younger generation perspective.

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Myself, Dan, and Bear Claw were all born in the 1980s, while my
son Logan was born in the 2000s.So this is the Clash of the
Generations. Without any further ado, grab
your evil severed hand, pull up a chair, hold on to your
straight jacket tight, and let'sdive into the madness.

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We watched Idle Hands from 1999.It was written by Terry Hughes
and Ron Milbauer. It was directed by Rodman
Flender, best known for directing Leprechaun 2.
Wow, big big cop. All the horror fans go wild.

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The crowd goes mild. Casting wise, we have good buddy
Devin Sawa is Anton. Front of the podcast.
Right. What's he best known for?
Cast. Fire destination slackers.
Oh wow. I was gonna go a little Giants.
All of us with different pigs weknow are Devin Sawa.
We have Seth Green as Mick and what's he best known for?

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Ivor, I mean, he, he's best known for Robot Chicken, Doctor
Evil, Austin, Chris. Griffin.
Chris Griffin fan. On Family Guy I I love him in
Austin Powers though. You're semi evil.
You're quasi evil. Yeah, I mean he would star and
Can't Hardly Wait as Kenny in 1998.
He did Idle Hands in 99 along with Austin Powers as well.

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So yeah, pretty cool span of movies.
I like Kenny and can't hardly wait.
Wait, but please tell me what I can do.
Oh, please don't cry. When someone says they have Riz,
I always think about Kenny from Canada.
That's my goat. We have Eldon Henson as Peanut.
What's he best known for? I don't think I've seen him on

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anything else. Nobody.
Sandlot. Nope.
I was thinking he's like the fat.
Close. close. Mighty Ducks.
OK. I didn't watch Mighty Ducks.
He wasn't. Mighty Ducks wasn't.
He played one of the Bash Brothers.
Oh OK. He was also later in Daredevil
the series as Foggy. Oh my God, he was foggy.
What? Come on, Marvel, what's going on

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over there? You didn't pick up on that.
Dude, he doesn't look. He looks.
Like he looks a little younger he looks.
So much younger. Than he usually.
Is like that was man can't believe that.
Come on, Mr. Marvel. I'm sorry we have Jessica Alba
as Molly. Listen to the span she had in
2005. She did Fantastic Four, Sin City

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and Into the Blue, but they all made her a star.
She was also in that show Dark Angel, wasn't she?
Yep. I don't know if that was 2005 or
not though. So I'm not sure.
I never saw an episode of that show so.
Last, I have Vivica A Fox as Debbie.
What she best? Knows Independence Day and Kill
Bill. Yeah, Yep.
Yeah, she's great in Kill Bill. Yeah, for sure.

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Any other ones anyone's got? I mean, there was a lot of.
The dad. There was a lot of people.
Yeah, Fred Willard. Fred Willard was in this movie.
He was an Anchorman. The late Fred Willard, he'll be
missed. He was a a great comedic genius.
The guy who plays the principal was in a lot of things.
He was only in this movie for about.
A second, yeah. Like 3 minutes, but he was in a

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lot of different things. Devin Sawa.
Yeah, I mean, that's about it. There's also Christopher Hart.
Who plays the hand plays the hand?
Oh yeah, he also. Plays the thing right.
Yeah. Adams fan.
Better than that. I wonder if he plays it in
Wednesday. Isn't that like a major
character? Oh, I haven't seen that yet.
I haven't watched it yet. No either.

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Idle Hands had a budget of $25 million.
Do you know how much it made at the box office?
Well, I know it had some issues at its release and it was going
to be released in October, but then there was some bumps in the
road there. So then it got released in
April. You said it cost 25,000,000.
I would say it grossed 35 million.

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Logan. I was nowhere near yours.
I'm going to go significantly lower.
I think this movie only had like2,000,000 on box office all.
Right, Dan, I was thinking the same as Logan.
I didn't think it was going to, I don't think it performed well
at the box office. And I'm going to price is right

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him and I'm going to say 3 million.
You're such an asshole. Dan's the closest really idle
hands only made $4.2 million. Wow, yeah, that makes sense.
There was a couple of reasons why, and Bear Claw touched on
one of them. This film was first slated to
come out in October of 1998. They ended up reshooting the
whole ending because of test audiences.

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Test audiences really loved the kind of Stoner comedy that this
had turned into, and they wantedmore of that so.
Give me more. They went back and did whole
reshoots. Yeah, I found one of the DVD
excerpts of this where the director talks about it and he's
like, yeah, people just didn't think it was totally correct
because they had a whole swimming pool scene.

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That was pretty cool. I don't know, I respectfully
disagree with him, but I'll get into that later.
The biggest reason why this movie didn't perform well is it
was released 10 days after the Columbine shootings.
This movie was specifically chosen by Senator Joe Lieberman
as an example of teen violence and horror movies that led to
the youth violence of what happened in Columbine I.

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Think. It always is, but.
It did face backlash over the times, Yeah, obviously it was.
Victim of circumstance, Yeah. Our lovely Connecticut Senator.
Currently on Rotten Tomatoes, Idle Hands has an 18% critic
score and a 58% audience. That makes sense.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.Roger Ebert.

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Oh God, one star. Listen to this 2 1/2 stars out
of four. Wow, wow, he's really trying to
get. He states Idle Hands samples
other teen horror movies like a video DJ with a tape deck
exhibiting high spirits and a crazed comic energy.

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It doesn't quite work, but it goes down swinging with a
disembodied hand. Inspiration from Evil Dead 2.
God, that's just word jumble. See.
The evil. That's an insightful thing.
I mean right up until the last bit there.
I was kind of disagreeing, yeah.No, the Evil Dead 2 bit.
I kind of I kind of am on the same page with him on.
Just a bunch of word jumble. That's what Eber does.

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Is he just. He just talks.
He just lost and probably. Convinced he watches horror
movies. I didn't even.
I think he watched. This I think.
He watches the body, he reads what the write up is, and then
he goes, OK, yeah, that's enoughI.
Got it. Except the movie cover.
Yeah, not even that. This is the title.
This one has a hand in it, I'm sure of that.

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He reads the title and he's like, now let's do out of four.
Well this was Bear claws pick for an episode.
So, Bear Claw, why did you choose Idle Hands for us to
review? I'm going to put on my nostalgia
glass this time cuz I there. You go bear claw.
Thank you. Yeah, I'm gonna need those from
the faculty. So this is one of my first
horror movies that I saw. I did the math out.
I was about 13 years old. I also picked this one because

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if you thought my last movie that I picked was intellectual
boring book horror, this is kindof my rebuttal to that.
If you thought that movie sucked, go scur yourself because
I got you. This is my rebuttal to that kind
of saying, OK, this is let me come at this from a different
angle, but let me work definite,definite nostalgia glasses for

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me. I just thought when I saw this
movie, I didn't see it when it was in theaters, but I did see
it shortly after it was out of theaters and I think it was
probably the Halloween after it was in theaters that I saw it.
I was like 13 years old, but it just had a lot going for it.
I really enjoyed this movie. I still enjoy this movie.
I purchased it for this, which is kind of rare for me.
It's got everything. It's a fun horror movie.

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It's got a lot of comedy to it. It's got a lot of great actors
in it. It's got a coherent story that
ties itself together. It's got a cool concept like a
hand like your hand is the is the killer.
It's got a cool killer in it, a deep demonic hand and it
sharpens with pencils and stuff.I thought the hand was so cool.
It's got a lot of great kills, alot of great practical effects.

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The gore was, in my opinion, tasteful and fun.
And you know, that's why this movie ranks so high for me.
And it just it was funny. And at the same time, there were
some, there were some legitimately terrifying moments
of the movie and some great kills.
I mean, this is like, in my mind, this movie is like the
perfect balance of comedy and horror with real horror.

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Not, you know, no offense to Ghostbusters or anything, but
that's kind of more comedy sci-fi.
This is comedy horror. And, you know, it's got all of
the elements that I think make it make it a great horror movie.
Yeah, for sure. Well, let's give you our our
overall thoughts on idle hands, Dan.
You ever watch a movie and you can tell the actors and just the

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people behind the camera, they're just having a fun time
making a movie? Like, no, you can just tell that
this movie feels like a passion project that everyone involved
in was like, I'm all in on making this happen.
It's it's astounding to me how much hate this movie got when it
came out. Like it's criminal at this
point. It's part buddy Stoner movie,

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part slapstick comedy, part possession movie, part body
horror. With their powers combined, this
is the Captain Planet of horror movies.
Captain Planet. I don't think I've seen a Devin
Saw movie I haven't liked and the trend continues.
Dude does an awesome job improving being unable to

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control his hand. I think he probably benefited a
lot from having Christopher Harton set, who also played Thing in
the Addams Family. Mick and Pennub are my favorite
characters in this movie. They're kind of like a live
action Beavis and Butt head. Yeah, they are Barry Beavis and
Butt Head. I love the makeup and effects
they apply to their undead looks.

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All the scenes where Penaub's head is not on his shoulders and
the head talking and moding reacting looked awesome and like
holds up well even now. And.
It'd be terrible. For places where they could have
cut corners and they didn't, youknow what I mean?
That's the thing about the gore and effects in this movie.
It's like it was all like Grade A, you know?
They said they went for it. Yeah, like there's just so many

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good one liners that I'm sure we'll get into later.
The possessed hand getting incapacitated via hot boxing.
Amazing really. Sometimes all a demonic
possessed hand needs is a littleweed to take the edge off.
You got it up the ass too. As Bear Claw mentioned, gore
effects are really good. They tow that uncanny valley

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line with making it some of it for comedic effect and other
times for dramatic effect. Like I really love 2 scenes in
particular, the hand getting microwaved and the hand
sharpening its nails and the pencil sharpener.
Just two gross out scenes for me.
To Bear Claw's point, underneathall the gags and jokes, there
are some real horror elements, like having to consider

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amputating one of your appendages under dire
circumstance. Could you imagine having to to
do that? Could you do that?
He took it like a champ though. Like what if, what if it's not
like the movies where it's just like 1 clean shop and you got to
you got to go back for 1/3 or 4th and that's that body horror
piece where you just it seeps into your head.

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You think about that shit as it's happening.
Eagle Slicer is just not going to do it.
No, not. Putting that on his hand though,
with the what was that the? Iron.
The iron. Oh, Oh yeah.
Where? He ironed his nub.
I got. To stop the blood flow, don't.
You ever watch ER? Dude, I couldn't watch.
He had ironed my nub. Oh Dang.
Is that what the kids are sayingnowadays?

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Flopping the Bishop. Iron my penob.
As far as I'm concerned, this islate 90s cinema.
It appeals to the part to me that crave being a young
degenerate. Now I'm just an old one.
Dang Dang, that gets me to bear claw.
Like now that you're seeing it as an old man.

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Saying it as a decrepit old man.An old.
Bear. No change for you at all.
Like can you appreciate the watch like you said you bought?
This right, I bought it. I appreciate it more now.
I mean, it's just especially after I have a little bit more
in my depth chart as far as horror movies go.
And I see there are so many avenues they could have taken

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with this movie where they couldhave either cheaped out or they
could have not had a coherent story or they could have done
things very differently in a very more slap shot way.
And they didn't. And I really appreciate it a lot
more now, especially the practical effects is nowadays
everything is CGI and that has its merits.
But I mean, I, I feel like the the practical effects in this

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movie, I mean, watching that hand fry in the microwave, like
you don't get that nowadays, like the blood squirting out of
the fingertips, but. For a.
Little bubbly skin. Yeah, the bubbly skin like and
and I also really like the fact that the killer was at one point
Devin Salad, but it was really his hand and like the whole
concept of like a demon just possessing one part of your

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body, body like how crazy that would be.
Cognizant of the possession. Yeah, yeah, not be checked out
while the possessions happening,but watching a part of your body
actively rebel against you and do things that you never do
it's. Like I have no control over my
hands. One of the things I really enjoy
about this movie, too, is it doesn't take itself too
seriously. A lot of horror movies take

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themselves super seriously. This one was obviously a little
bit more of a comedy, but I mean, that adds to it because I
mean, when you're having Halloween fun, you don't want to
be, you know, contemplating existential questions of life.
You want to be having a good time with, with your zombie
buddies and and burrito goo coming out of his neck and and
saying, Hey, I got an answer forthat.
And like just the things like putting the, you know, putting

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the one guy's head back on usinga poker.
I mean, that's all that's all stuff that goes a long way with
me in this movie And and just itbeing both fun, gory and
generally some terrifying moments.
This was one of my favorites when I was growing up too.
Like it was one of those, I don't know what it is, but these
movies that kind of balance it out like my boyfriends back.

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Yeah, this movie even like Ghostbusters to the extent too
we were talking earnest, scared,stupid.
Stupid, stupid. Yeah, it's like some of these
movies that are really kind of balancing the comedic tones with
some of the scary tones for me. They're they're scary because
it's like off putting a little bit and I can't explain it, but

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it's like you're lulling me intolike a false sense of security
with some of the comedic tones and stuff.
And then it's like boom, cat gets thrown across.
I don't know. And just things like, you know,
he's and just thinking about things like he was in the house
with the dead parents that he killed like the whole time, like
all throughout the day. And he didn't like, like, that

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stuff's chilling. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
And it was funny, like watching it this time, I hadn't seen it
in so long that I like couldn't remember how they got to the
hand, like possessing and whatever.
And they never really explain itright.
Well, they say it goes after themost worthless or kind of plays
on that saying idle hands are the devil's place.
Yeah, yeah. And it's one of those things

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where it's like the the demon possesses the laziest, most
worthless person. I come from a long line of
Jordic priestesses to fight a certain evil force that
possesses the laziest fuck up itcan find.
Pretty much he just smoked weed and sat on the couch every day,
all day. His father, I thought, I thought
it was funny. He's like Scooter hasn't scooted
his butt off. The couch for.

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Some time Anton would not scoot his behind off the couch if the
house was on fire. I thought that was funny.
I'm really curious to hear what our younger member of Madness
has to say about this because, you know, I don't know.
I don't know whether this movie translates.
His hand may actually be possessed, but but I mean,
because I don't know whether it translates.
Like I said, this is one that I have the nostalgia glasses for.

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Sounds like a couple of you gentlemen might as well, but.
I want to go fix that glass. Your glasses may be broke.
I don't know. I am kind of curious.
So, Logan, what do you think of this accomplishment of a movie?
If road trip American Pie can't hardly wait.
Basically any college movie madea baby.

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This would be the baby that theygive away and try to forget
about the black sheep of the family.
Because my God, man, this movie had everything going from it
from the very beginning and it just fell apart.
There was no explanation for anything.
It was stupid. It was legitimately just

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watching people fail to make a good movie, and it just was.
Not so it fell flat for you dude.
This movie had. Everything going from it from
the very beginning as sick ass intro.
That introduction was bad ass with like the theme going for
it. And I'm a music guy.
So that shit like right away waslike, oh shit, we got a movie.

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And then like the scene with like the house and the camera
panning up and then like seeing like us getting introduced to
these parents and like this whole scene of them finding out
about this. It's just like, it's such horror
movie 101. And it is like, even though it's
basic, it's fits right, it feelsright.
It feels like we're back to basic.

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Do you know where they shot that?
Is it one of the Michael Myers houses?
Yeah, yeah, it's actually shot in Pasadena where they shot
Halloween, so. Yeah, OK.
That's where the I think the familiarity comes in.
Back to basics. I think what's funny about this
is first couple minutes I was really interested in it.
I think like Mick and Peanut aregreat characters and they are

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like the glue that holds this movie together.
And Darwin Saw was an amazing actor.
He was really good the entire time.
I was like wow, I just really like this guy really.
He's very big Lebowski energy like he's wearing the boxers,
like with the whole robe thing. And I like how what's his name
Randy like where he like says hito him.
He's like nice outfit, nice boxers.

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He's like like, I really like I like that.
I like the whole basement thing.That was great.
I think like, you know, the girlnext door element to it.
And adding that into like the beginning of the movie was
great. And then once they get to like
him finding out about his parents and then the demon hand
and him killing them. I just, I don't know, I felt
like it was unique, but it was like it was too much.

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It was too much going on. There was so much happening that
I was like, whoa, we need to take a second to like catch our
breath 'cause we just got from like point A to point B like
within like 2 seconds and it's way too much at one point.
And I was getting very tired really early on.
And I feel like then they introduced 40 different

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characters throughout the movie.And I'm like, holy shit, please
get a grasp on your characters and please stop just introducing
them to in mindless scenes that make no sense whatsoever.
And I hate that like most of thefemale characters or introduced
to the men like in the most stupid like stupid manly like
way like it was written by a dude and it was like.

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So him saying that he really liked her song lyrics and she
thought he thought she was an excellent songwriter.
Especially when that writes her own lyrics.
You read them. I'm looking in the book.
They're amazing you. Know yeah but like the whole
entire like scene is just so like weird and it's like oh
you're kinky you're. Kinky.
Yeah, he's literally like tryingto kill a hand, his hand, and

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beating the shit out of it at the same time.
And then like the other girl who's hunting demons is just
like having fun with this. No, but this guy who's just.
I hate Randy. Randy's my favorite character.
I hate Randy so much. He's such a puss.
I thought Randy was a thoughts, but I thought he added a little
bit of I feel like every town has that one guy who's like

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really into like. He's the Will Ferrell in Wedding
Crashers or whatever. Yeah, right.
He's an older guy. Hitting on, hitting on women.
Girls, Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, he's the dude from Dazed and Matthew McConaughey.
Yeah. Confused.
That's what I love about these high school girls, man.
I get older, they stay the same age.
He is the math McConaughey. Except he's not as cool as math.

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He can't. Pull it off like McConaughey
could. I think what this movie does is
very interesting. I think it's very unique.
It's definitely not like a basichorror movie, but I kind of
wanted it to be and I think that's why I really wanted it to
like hold up to the like regularhorror movie aspect and I.
So did you have a problem with them mixing in the comedy as

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much as they? Did.
No. I think the comedy was what held
it together. I think there's a lot of moments
in this movie that are really good.
There are some weird decisions, like having a whole dance and
shit. I didn't understand that.
I think there should have been aparty instead of a dance.
I think if Pinob and Mick invited people over his house,
that would have been way better because I think that would have

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been way funnier and I think the.
Offspring would have showed up though.
They, I think they would have actually, I think it would have
been so funny. It would have been cool though.
They showed up. Oh my God, is that the
offspring? Dude that would have been keep
in. Mind, they were a big band at
this time. Oh yeah.
And that Americana came, honey. Yeah.
And that and that. They'd have been pretty funny
for a white guy. The kids aren't all right.

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Yeah. Yeah, there's so many.
I think it would way funnier, especially getting Molly's
character would have been way better than like what she was
given. I think there's a lot of things
they could have done and they just went the wrong way.
Do you think that at times they went too ha ha when there are
some things that they should have taken a little more
seriously? I think it's not about the
comedy for me, it's about the actual plot itself.

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I think they kind of just loosened up on and they're kind
of just like, oh, let's throw a bunch of shit into the pile and
let's see what sticks. It's like you're throwing so
many concepts into one concept that's already hard enough to
explain because you're not explaining it like this guy has
a demon hand. What would you say is the cause
conceptually? I mean, really, there's a demon

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hand in zombies. I mean that that's kind.
Of there's so much like undead going to heaven and hell, like
there's this Demon Hunter at thepoint, there's Molly's character
who's just thrown into the mix weirdly just to be a love
interest. There's like so much going on at
the same time and then like he'strying to figure out demons and
stuff. It's just like it's.

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So much, yeah. I think, you know, one of the
things that this movie does and and has been criticized for that
I've seen is it does try to blend a lot of different kinds
of horrors coming together. It's like somebody didn't watch
Trick or Treat or what was that movie with the guy with the
lollipop? Yeah.
Trick or treat. Yeah.
And on top of like blending all the different kind of horrors,

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they're also blending comedy together.
And I think that's why there's alittle like, you know, it's not
for everybody, for sure. Sure.
I don't think this is an easy, digestible movie.
Does it make it a bad movie? I don't think so.
I think, you know, there's a lotto go on here.
I think it's unique. Yeah.
I think it's fun too. Like, you know, the biggest
thing too with this movie, I don't think this movie gets

(27:55):
enough credit for, like, it's Halloween aesthetic, really.
Like, you know, you have the town like we talked about or the
street very Halloween as the decorations, the party itself.
You have a costume party and things I.
Think it's not enough Halloween?I think there's some aspects of
it where I'm just like where? You want more?
It's the Halloween. I'm like, why are we spending

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time at this fast food place getting to know Randy?
I don't want to know more about Randy.
I wanted to leave. Why are we at a bowling alley?
Randy and his truck. Why are we at a bowling alley?
Why are we at a prison? Why are we at all these
different places? Just learning more about these
characters instead of the actualcharacters that matter.
I felt like there was so much and there was so much at one
time where I'm like, stop cutting to other scenes, stick

(28:40):
with what we have. Yeah, I mean, I, I think too,
like for me, one of the biggest issues I have I think is like
the pacing situation because I think it starts off one way and
then all of a sudden it picks uplike big time.
Yeah, It's like going, going, going, going till you, you know,
then you get to the dance and then things slow a little bit
down and then going, going, going, you know what I mean?

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So I can see that being an issue.
I want to start like right at the beginning though, because
we've already touched on a little bit with this opening and
the whole looking up at the ceiling, at the ceiling and
seeing I'm under the bed. Like, that is scary stuff,
right? Away shit right away and the.
Mom is on the bed and the the dad's like, I'm gonna go check

(29:22):
this out and you know. The best casting for mom and
dad. That was great.
Yeah. I felt like an old school like
parent couple where the dad is disapproving of the son.
The mom loves the shit out of the son so much that she's like
wow, he's the perfect little Angel our.
Little Scooter would never do something like that.
He's over here. Hi, baby.
He's over here. Free Basin shit.

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He's over there getting baked inthe middle of the living room.
Yeah. Watching like porno and shit
while always like parents are like that.
That was like a little bit weirdwhere he's like, Oh yeah, I
haven't seen them in a couple ofdays.
I. Haven't seen my parents in a
couple of. Days well, I think because in
the 90s especially children and parents didn't commingle so much
yeah, there was a very. Separate, separate world, kind

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of yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't deal with that.
So I really haven't seen that like in my life.
So for me that didn't really like connect.
I understand it because I've heard other people like you
where it's like, oh, you know, you just didn't see them that
often. Like it was like a thing.
Yeah, right. You don't question, like if you
haven't seen your parents in a couple hours, like you're just
like, now that's their day. Yeah.

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And they're not home. So if they're not home, you get
to control that TV from the family.
Control the one. TV in the house, Yeah.
If you got your Super Nintendo hooked up to it or something
like that, it's just a very different kind of parent child
relationship then. Yeah.
Plus, plus you get to blast yourmusic, yeah, you know, and you
get to change it into your headphones and everything, Yeah.

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I mean, if your parents, if yourparents are gone and you're in
high school, I mean, that's pretty much you got to control
the TV. You can eat whatever snacks you
want. Yeah, that's good.
I love how his one thing though is you know he's just got to
chill out and then all of a sudden he's out of weed, right?
Uh huh, dude, I need the hook up.
Come over here and get it yourself.

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I'm dry so. So why?
Don't you bring me over a timer.This ain't Domino's, you lazy.
Bitch. Come.
Over here and get it. I lost my shit when he was like
and you had to like put it all on just to go down the street.
I think he went across the street.
Yeah, I know. He was like.

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I was like, oh OK, he's got to drive like across town or
whatever. Nope, just down the street.
You son of a bitch. Just go down the street.
Into Bear Claw, though, this felt very like real from our
teenage childhood, like just going to your buddy's house.
Walking, yeah. You rode your bike, you really
didn't have too many options. And nowadays we don't have that.

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Nowadays, your friends are halfway across the world.
You got one TV in the house. Just sitting on the couch, your
Internet. Is AOL if you're lucky.
If you're lucky, your friend hasa renovated basement hang.
Out. Yeah, this definitely was like
nostalgia for the 90s for me. Again, we get the love interest
here and I agree with you, Logan.
I think like Molly was not givena lot in this movie.

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Look, I think she was essential to drive the plot forward, but I
agree that. She's actually.
Not like the best character, but, you know, I don't know that
you need, you know, a great romance.
No, and that's not what this story was about.
Look, I love her in Fantastic Four.
Like, legitimately the greatest casting decision of all time.
This was rough. I thought every single one of

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her lines was terrible. I thought she was a terrible
actress in this movie. I really did not like her.
This is like one of her first movies.
Yeah. Yeah, I think she was 17 in this
movie. That's why I'm like, it was so
awkward. It was so like uninteresting.
Her character just felt very like unoriginal and.
I'll tell you. What?
But she was very attractive. When she answered that door it's
like holy shit this is a 17 yearold.

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Like hey. 17 years, 13. Years old when I first saw this
movie so. You know, I, I'm allowed to.
I'm allowed. I.
She was. That puts her at like 4 years
older than me. Yeah, I think this was one of
the first sets of boobs I ever saw in my life in this movie.
From her, the kiss girl. The the kiss girl.

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The kiss girl. That wasn't ideal, though,
because she had a disembodied hand.
Yeah, that kind of ruined the moment.
I don't know. I was still maybe not.
For a little. Bit what's what's another?
What's a third hand hurting anybody?
I thought a perfect scene to describe this movie was when

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Anton's making a sandwich. Yeah, and he's got the and like
blood. He's not Jelly clever with the
bloody. Like it's little things like
that that really I think make this movie for me because he's
like he's totally unaware. He is so checked out of
everything, right. I mean, that's his that's Devin
Salo's character in this movie. Anton is just checked out.

(34:06):
He's not going to school. He's watching MTV all day,
getting high on the couch, not having a job, nothing.
Right. I thought, now I think what was
interesting about that knife is that's when I still thought we
were having like a Billy situation where there was
someone up in the attic or something like that where I
thought he was still inside the house.
And you know what? I gotta agree with Anton.

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I'd be hiding under the covers with my dog.
Dude, come on. Come on.
Yeah. Look, you know where that dogs
from? Road trip?
Oh my God, same dog. Really.
Wow, cinema. Now that's real cinema.
He pushes the dog out. I thought that was hilarious.
I was doing this out of the dogslike.

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Listen, if I was going to use this much Mayo, I would have
took that knife in my throat anyways.
Like God Dang. You listen, I.
Hate Mayo. I hate Mayo God.
It is an essential for any sandwich.
I love. God, you son of a bitch.
I'm even a bigger heretic. I like miracle lip too.
Go, go away. Go back into the woods.

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I thought it was perfect. Is some of the writing in this,
like you had touched on Bear Claw?
But the cool thing was at the beginning they did this
foreshadowing with the pumpkin heads on the mannequins.
Yeah. And then I knew that was paid
off, that the parents are the mannequin.
I love all the Chekhov's guy. I love the.
Cat playing with the eyes. Oh yeah, yeah.

(35:34):
Oh God and it. Looks like what I imagine when I
would look like. I don't know, Like I've never.
Seen I hate the wicking. Sound but.
Yeah, I mean, these scenes when Panab and Mick come over, this
is where the movie really kicks into high gear.
Oh yeah, those guys, they, they add so much to this movie.
I love this song. Oh yeah?

(35:54):
What was that song? It was like the Cootie.
Song. I love that shit.
And then they're like, dude, look right over there.
Hang on, this is the best part. And they turn it off and they're
like, oh shit. My, my parents are dead.
And then what's his name's trying to give the dad CVP?
I saw it on Baywatch. I saw on Baywatch.
Then his friend is calling up. He's like, Oh my friend smokes

(36:16):
some nutmeg or something like. Something wrong with my friend?
I think he took some nutmeg or. Something call 911.
What's the number again? The number for 911 yeah cuz I'm.
Gonna call. 911. Like Logan was saying too, when
you first watch this you really don't know what's going on here.
Like is Anton like the killer and he's just not remembering
what's going on cuz he's. Coming in I thought it was like

(36:37):
a moon night situation or like aBilly situation.
I thought it was one of the two cuz I was like OK that would be
a good twist if it is Anton but I I really wanted this slasher.
Yeah, well, it kind of is a slasher.
Yeah. This was such a cool scene for
me when I was a kid. When he takes the bottle and
goes boom. Yeah.
And. Just right into his head.
Makes head. Oh, yeah, and like, and him

(36:59):
walking around with it and he gets caught in the vent and
stuff like, like them being zombies.
I mean, how cool is that? It allows a foil because, you
know, by design, Anton is not that interesting of a person
because he sits on the couch allday and smokes weed.
But they offer like, you know, akind of different perspective.
And they forgive him for murdering them.

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And there's a white light, but it was a long way and.
Speaking of the facts too, I don't know how you guys felt,
but like with the severed head of Pinov there in on the chair
and stuff, that looked really good.
I mean, it was. Well, all the effects, I mean,
they didn't skimp on the effects.
They didn't use CGI. They could have used CGII mean
the CGI was not unknown at this time.

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But I mean, they really did the extra mile and it shows.
And I think that's that's what makes us a higher quality movie.
Once they become reanimated, it really sets this movie going.
Yeah, I didn't realize how, you know, and just from some of the
feedback that we got, I didn't realize how unknown this movie
was. I thought it was kind of a
classic, but I think of it as a classic.

(38:00):
Yeah, we did have a lot of people message us directly and
we're like, hey, I've never evenheard of this movie.
Yeah, wow. I think it, I think it's a
victim of circumstance. I think it just came out, you
know, just the wrong time. The fact that I didn't get any
box office, that blows my mind. Like if it came out for a movie
in the 1990s when the Internet was not the biggest thing in the

(38:21):
world, to not make money is a weird thing.
Yeah, even you could I have evena total piece of garbage in
there were making money. Was this before American Pie?
No, I think if it came out afterAmerican Pie would have done.
Better, it did come after out after American Pie it did.
I don't know what you did. American Pie came out American
Pie I think came out in 97 we're.
Gonna do it. I thought it was Google later

(38:42):
than that. I think it was like 98, 9999,
same year. Oh, OK.
Well then, yeah. I mean, I don't know American
Pie though different. I know what you're saying.
Different audience. Yeah, a little bit.
I feel like though the comedy aspect of it would have been I,
I don't know, I feel like this movie, I don't think it's a
victim of circumstance. I think it's just like it's a

(39:02):
hard movie to get people into, you know, it's not one of those
movies that people are just so like into, you know, it's, it's
a different type of movie. I don't know though.
I mean, this seems to me in my mind, and, and maybe this is
just a humble bear here in my mind, this checks a lot of
horror boxes. It's got gore, it's got
practical effects. It's got demonic possession,

(39:24):
slasher. I mean real.
Hot women. Visceral violence.
It's got, you know, the whole campy aspect of it, you know, I
don't know, that's great. Those bells all kind of ring and
and and it's also got that comedic kind of tone to it,
which in my mind, horror movies,I think some of the best horror
movies can at least put a littlebit of comedy in there.

(39:46):
You know what I mean? Because that kind of builds the
movie a little bit. But I mean this was definitely
leans a little bit more comedy than a lot of the other ones,
but I mean still like a comedy horror movie.
This to me falls in kind of thatspace of death becomes her a
little bit. Yeah.
Yeah. It's it's so between both genres
that it's like, you know, like true horror fans aren't going to

(40:08):
be completely satisfied because it is too comical and.
Yeah, there is a comedy aspect. And then the comedy fans aren't
going to be satisfied because there's horrors and especially
this one, there's horror scenes like.
This movie also reminds me of another movie that's kind of
similar is The Frighteners. Yeah, that's a good movie too.

(40:29):
Michael J Fox's character has like 2 best friends that are
ghosts and he uses them as a ploy to to investigate do
paranormal investigations. Yeah, and like, it's just his
two friends, like stirring up shows.
Up clients. Houses.
Stirring gloves and yeah. So I think that's really what it
is. This is a classic movie that is,

(40:51):
in my mind, a cult classic. Yeah, I would say this is a
cult. Classic, you know, because it's
it has its audience and I think it can find newer audience of
people that are like, whoa, likeI missed this one yeah and now
like it's cool like I really like this and the great scene
you talked about too, though, with the the hand cutting off
like could you do that like Dan and ass I mean could.

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Not as quickly as he was able todo it.
I think there'd be some more deliberation in my mind.
I thought it was funny that Panab like turned his head away.
I. Can't watch?
'Cause he was like, I can't watch this and his.
Body just turned this head the other way.
He still he still helps though. Yeah, actually, yeah, yeah, they
need to use his mouth to to. To hold his hand.

(41:33):
I like how he was like going to make was grabbing the electric
Carver there and he's like, lookat me, Texas trains leather
face, leather face. I just.
Loved Panab's whole self-interest the whole time,
you know what I'm saying? Like Mick was a little bit more
benevolent and was like willing to help out Anton and was was

(41:53):
more solutions oriented, whereasPanab was just kind of like,
well, if it's good for me, yeah sure, let's do it.
But if it's not, then you know, we'll do something else.
He. Did not like he was getting sick
and tired of Anton bullshit. In this movie, he's like, man,
just go and say something. God damn, man, I'm getting like,
I'm getting tired of your bullshit.
Hey, listen, the Hand kind of brought him and Molly together.

(42:14):
Listen, the Hand didn't throw the cat all the way over there.
He went over, yeah, you know, And then the Hand wanted to kill
Molly or to be with Molly, cuz he kind of grabbed Molly.
The hand. Wanted to drag Molly to hell.
OK, OK. That was the big thing is the
hand. For whatever reason, the hand
has wanted to drag her to hell and that was like, it's big

(42:38):
motivation was to drag her to hell.
And I guess that's the only way,you know, it's like a demon and
it's The thing is, it's all about dragging to hell.
Also, the hand imagery in this movie is very, is very big for
me because one of the things that I was scared of when I was
younger is Once Upon a time somebody told me a story about
like this box and a museum. And it was just like this stupid

(43:00):
like kids story. But it was like, oh, you know,
they somebody'd go look in the box and then the hand would grab
them and drag them into the box and they'd never be seen again
kind of thing. So like, I don't know, there was
an aspect of that for me cuz like, and somebody told me that
story when I was like 4 or five years old.
So like totally, like I was always scared that a hand was
gonna come up and grab me out ofbed.
And I mean, I don't know how. The Penguins get me.

(43:23):
Those things when I was really young, so the hand connected
with me there too is a very scary, like disembodied.
Yeah, for sure. It's because it's like this
shouldn't be happening sort of, right?
Yeah, your hand should be a pendants that your hand.
Is the thing you have the most control over in your body.
You know like and to lose control of that is.
Yeah. I mean, especially when you see

(43:44):
that hand in the microwave and just getting, like, sizzles.
Oh, God. Like, you're like, it's like a
grilled hot dog. Yeah.
And I will say Anton got the shit kicked out of him.
That's an. Entire poor guy and and not only
did he have to cut off his own hand, he then had to run around
afterwards and. And then he ended up in a body

(44:05):
cast like what? A yeah, air of a way at.
Least he had a little consolation prize.
And Molly. There helping him and then she
thought he was crazy. She liked.
It though. He's out of his mind with
delivery and visiting hours Rover.
I'll see you tomorrow, OK? Yeah, she was all about it.
She's like, and I don't know, like some people said that that
romance was stupid. But I mean, I think all of us

(44:26):
can remember from high school a girl who had a boyfriend who was
just like. Insane.
Like, like he's the. That's the.
That's your choice. I like the clinically.
But they're like super dedicatedto him for like a reason that
yeah, like. Who knows?
Yeah, who knows, But like, I feel like there's all all the
time. You've all had a friend like

(44:47):
that. OK, baby snakes on a chance Baby
snakes we've. All had a friend like that.
We've all had friends that have had crazy people and you know,
that's just just what they do. The character of Debbie is
supposed to be a like. She's like the Van Helsing right
up inside. Yeah, everyone needs a Doctor
Loomis. Yeah, you're right.
She is. Demon.

(45:08):
Demonic Hunter. What was her title?
Yeah, Druidic something or another.
She's a druidic priestess whose order is to, you know, capture
demons. And she's got that really cool
RV that like, is that Airstream RV?
And like she's tracking it down.I think you could probably do
this movie without her character, but yeah, I don't
know. But we need ritualistic sex.

(45:28):
My work here is done. It's time for the ritualistic
sex. Yeah.
I mean, there's that aspect of it, but I mean.
Without got Randy in both Yeah they got Randy Yeah, we need
Randy. I would couple of characters.
I would have cut both characters.
You probably. You probably could have mixed
the 2 characters and and made Randy the Demon Hunter or
something or. I would have liked it if Vivica

(45:50):
A Fox's character had more of a of a serious tone to her.
Like she's she's. A little cartoon.
She's like, on her way to, like,meet like a final.
Like, she's on a journey to havelike, this final conflict with
this demon thing, I think would be like such a cool little
departure narrative story arc, kind of like off to the side
while all this fun stuff's happening.

(46:10):
Yeah. You've got, like, the serious
tone. And then they all just kind of
converge, which I think is what they were originally going to
do. And then they had that screen
test audience and I think they kind of changed things around a
little bit, yeah. Yeah, that's true.
I guess Randy too kind of gives him the ideas that like, you got
to keep your hands busy, right? Yeah, that's the concept.

(46:31):
Idle hands are the devil's playground.
Anton's almost reserved to the fact that, like, he's a killer,
like he's got to get out of thissituation.
Oh yeah. I just think it's funny that
Anton's like, who do I go to foradvice?
And like, he's just like Randy. Randy.
Well, I mean. His two friends are like he
knows the most about the devil because he listens to.

(46:52):
Rock and rock'n'roll that. Is kind of what a that is kind
of what a couple of stoners would think they'd be like.
Oh well, you know, I don't know,like you gotta.
Say like that Beavis and butt head.
Yeah, that is a very good narrative.
Like like stoners giving you advice on this?
It's not gonna be. It's not.
You're not gonna get like. Who you?

(47:12):
Killed, right? They're not gonna be helping you
out, brother. They're gonna be there just to
be. There they try to help as much
as they can. I mean, like you said, Panab,
there, he's more for himself. He's trying to hook up with the
girls at the dance and Smix. Like about the what about the
cops? We haven't talked about the cops
yet. I'm fine with that.
Yeah, I was just about to get tothe cops, asshole, because

(47:35):
Antons reserved to the fact thatI should go to prison.
Keep me in there or whatever. Exactly it to throw me one of
those rubber rooms, I won't be able to hurt anybody else.
Cuff me and they're like put theneedle in town.
I can't. I gotta stay working.
He's like, put the cops on. And I just love that, like,

(47:55):
showdown because it's like building up that tension.
Yeah, you know, the cops are notprobably making it out of here.
Yeah, at that point. And they they get they deserved.
They get pretty brutal. Shots and up.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. They did.
Were not that sad about their demise you?

(48:16):
Should kill them I. Was gonna say I think you should
do what the officers tell you but now I changed my mind.
Yeah, man, you should just. Kill them, they're gonna bring
you to prison. I was gonna say this for a
little bit later on, but I feel like this could have been like a
cool TV series with like Mick and Panabb, like the Stoner
comedy TV series, but they're like maybe demon hunting or
whatever and and stuff like that.

(48:38):
Follow them on their journey. Yeah.
From couch. Have to be alive, but yeah.
Maybe not. No.
Yeah, no. Keep them dead.
Keep them dead. Undead demon hunters.
Yeah, that could work. That's interesting.
You know, you had said earlier with the pacing and the dance at
the end here, and you wanted a party.
I actually like the big set piece at the end of the movie.

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I thought that was like a cool thing because you have everybody
converging to this one big. They didn't really use it that
much though, which you know, well, they got these the school,
but they didn't use the party that much.
They left the party really earlyon.
They're like, ah, let's go out into the vents.
Well, yes. And the vents were really easy
to get. And that was like cuz like the

(49:22):
carry shit started popping off. Yeah, hand.
They let the hand like locks thedoors and then yeah, drops the
lighting, causing all the sorts of chaos.
Pulls off. Pulls off Dexter's head, scalp
something. I mean, how cool is it to see
the offspring playing live? Like, I know it's cool.
I thought it was the only seeinglike, the lead singer getting
like a kill, yeah. Right.

(49:43):
The lead singer. I mean, they could have just
done everything like that at the.
Party, I hear. Yeah, I hear you.
But big set piece I mean. Also another punk or another guy
Tom Delong is. In the drive in, he was the
cashier in the. Cashier in the drive.
You know what? That's crazy because you had
brought up American Pie. He also has a a cameo.

(50:03):
An American Pie. Really.
Yeah. What is he, an American Pie?
He plays one of the guys watching Shannon Elizabeth
undressing on when they send outthe webcam feed to everybody.
So yeah, I mean, that's kind of cool.
He's he's in a bunch of these movies.
Yeah. You have the vents.

(50:24):
Like why did they go in the vents?
That was such a stupid. That's when the movie just took
me out. Yeah, like the vents.
No, man. Just like, why did they have to
go in the vents? And then that whole like, Oh my
God, we're going to stop the fanwith our shoe and then we're
going to climb. Down we worked for us that.
Wasn't a God. That was a whole much great kill
though. So.
Much it was a good kill, but again, could have happened had a

(50:47):
party. Yeah, I killed the chick in
their devil costume and really sad.
The devil in the. Age she actually is married to.
Frank Azaria. Azaria, Frank.
Azaria. Yeah.
I thought her costume was very Halloween 5S.
Yeah. Girl.
Oh yeah. It was that's where I was
getting that vibe from. OK, familiarity.

(51:09):
I think for me, the entire dance, just I couldn't, I
couldn't stand it. I.
Pin up. Just macking it.
Oh yeah. Lady, he's like dude, don't make
out with her. That's.
Disgusting. Come on man.
You're, you're dead. Because like Mick's thinking
like you're dead, man. It's gross.
Don't ruin this for me. Like afterwards where she after

(51:32):
she gets killed in the fan and he's like, well now you can go
get yourself a piece. I will say it.
Was like hilarious. I do think it's kind of dumb
that the undead want to like make out and shit because like
when you're undead you shouldn'thave feelings you.
Shouldn't want to eat burritos either, but.

(51:53):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's why I was like, smoke
weed. Smoke.
Weed. No, that's OK because smoking
weed doesn't take any feelings. Oh my God.
Yeah. So then we, I mean, we get to
the ending, right? And this is the big thing that
they had changed because originally there is like a pool
scene and a they should. An old scene.
That's gonna be my hot take too.But like, like I watched the

(52:14):
pool scene. Even the rough job, because it
was in one of the DVD extras, you know, the director kind of
explains, like totally. We didn't think it was right,
but I don't know that last scene, like hands come out of
the wall. Yeah, they're in a.
Pool, an empty pool and like, the gates of hell open up and
like, but I think they were a little concerned that I was
gonna steer it a little bit moretowards the horror side than the

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comedy. Not like.
But why not? Yeah, they.
They swung one way. They definitely could have swung
back the other way, yeah. Yeah, like I said, the the test
audience really wanted more of the Stoner comedy.
At the end of the day, they thought that it didn't match the
rest of the tone of the movie. But to me, you're doing this big
build up at the end. This is the crescendo.
Yeah. This is the way to do it.

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The one they end up doing. I don't think it's bad.
Where Molly is getting raised onthe car.
Yeah. Yeah.
And they use pot with Mighty JoeBong there.
Yeah. To go in the puppet.
I did like the puppet. The puppet.
Yeah, the puppet was. I did like the puppet.
I thought that was a good way tolike give animate the hand.
Yeah, you know, because. I thought it was a callback too

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with the whole like him being like lazy person then using his
skills of lazy. Yes, yeah to yeah.
To beat the devil or whatever. Yeah, I just didn't think this
felt like big enough like the and even that.
Brain made that joke where he's like, wait a minute, that's it.
That's it. No explosions, no Hellfire, no.

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Yeah, not like, well, it's kind of, it's kind of weak, but I
guess that's like, yeah, that's that's exactly how I felt this
entire movie. Just like a wet fart.
I wonder, I wonder if that was Seth Green of like improving
improving or like saying his like his disappointment.
No, I'm sure that was the director going, wow, this
movie's ending sucks absolute shit.

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Let's make fun of it and say this was all the plan all along.
That's pretty much what he did. That's very like, that's very
She Hulk of him. Yeah, because then the car comes
down on Anton. We think he's dead because.
He should be dead. Yeah, he should have been dead,
Yeah. Because yeah, because then Mick
and Penelope are like, are you coming?
Yeah. And I thought that would have

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been a perfect scene for him to go off too.
I thought it would have been funny if he was undead too and
they were all just hanging out on the couch again.
Yeah. It makes it makes sense if you
look at that the alternate ending because in the original
ending he falls off of the a diving board into an empty pool.
Yeah, yeah. And so they just had, they still

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took the same ending scene, but just they made it.
He was crushed by the car. Right.
I just hate the whole hospital scene.
That was really just. Like him getting fed pudding by.
Molly I'm fine with. He deserved that.
I just. I didn't like the guardian Angel
shit. I thought that was really weird.
I thought that was like. I will say this, 820 nineties, I

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feel like it like in its time and place I think it fit, but I
could see where maybe outside ofthat it would look weird.
That to me was like right out ofstuff like Kevin Smith did with
yeah and stuff like that. Yeah, that's what I felt like
watching that. Just it didn't fit right.
I don't think it fit right. I think I would have liked it
better if he was like my original ending idea that I had

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when I watched it was him dying like I just said.
And I'm all like hanging out undead and Molly is like hanging
out or whatever and she like is like taking care of them and
she's like going off the bed or whatever.
She looks up on her bed and she sees the I'm under your bed or
something like that. I thought it would been

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interesting if her like being involved with that.
That's just like, I don't think there was a lot to go off with
the ending. The ending was very cut and dry.
I mean, a lot of horror movies are kind of disappointing around
the ending. I don't know, Halloween.
Great Ascending. It's not always about the it's
never with horror movies about the destination.
Yeah, it's about the journey. And this movie had a shitty

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journey. Well, on that note, we're on to
conspiracy corner. Does anyone have any
conspiracies? Yeah, I didn't have a whole lot
of conspiracies around this movie.
I just had the whole Joe Lieberman thing and like that
was a weird guy. Yeah, yeah, he used to, it was

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weird. He used to have, I remember when
I was in college and he was running for the Senate again, he
would have limousines that wouldcome up to the college and drive
you to the polls. Like he just had like a whole
bunch of limousines that would all that would circle around
you, the polls that would get you to the polls.
It was, it was very surreal kindof thing.
But yeah, I don't know. He was also a big anti video

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game crusader kind of individual.
I know that one place parents want us to draw the line is with
violence in video games. I was not a big fan of a lot of
his nonsense so. Now that's some bullshit.
I think my big conspiracy is that Mick and Peanut were sent
there to be his guardian angels from the very beginning and

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that's why they came back to life, unlike the parents.
Yeah, I mean. It's a good, I like that.
They always say like, we can't go over our house because of our
parents, but your parents are dead.
Their parents are God. They're guardian angels from the
very beginning and that they were sent there to give them
give them purpose. But instead of him being like
good and using that for good, hejust became lazy.

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So they're like, OK, get off your ass and go talk to her like
they were they were kind of likethe devil in in the Angel on his
shoulder, kind of like telling him what to do.
And he was just like, I'm not going to do that.
And then Peanut was getting pissed off.
He started trying to get like angry about his job.
And he's like, dude, I'm gettingsick and tired man Fuck you.
Dang, I like it. All right, we're on the hot
takes. I had a hot take, something we

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kind of touched on already, thatthey should have just kept the
original. That was my hot take.
That's pretty much. My I had two hot takes.
The pool landing was better and I think a lot of people
criticize the puppet. I thought the puppet was cool.
Oh. Yeah.
Yeah, the puppet was sick. I thought the puppet was the.
I thought, you know, really? I still didn't hate the ending
that they went with. I thought that was still pretty

(58:24):
funny ending. But when I saw the other one, I
was like, oh, that one was a lotbetter.
Plus, I mean, in hindsight, right, this would have came out
Halloween time, 1998. Yeah, I think it would have hit
better. Plus, in hindsight, when it came
out so close to the Columbine, Yeah, shooting.
So, I mean, it would have been, you know, again, this all we can
look at now. Yeah.

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But I think it would have done alot better if it had come out in
Halloween time because this is aHalloween movie.
I think it's kind of an underrated Halloween movie
because I think it's a fun Halloween watch.
Yeah. We're on to our Hall of Slain.
Our Hall of Slain are charactersthat have died in the movies

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that we reviewed that would helpus get through and survive a
horror movie because we are the final girl.
Are there any characters you would like to nominate from Idle
Hands? I mean, come on guys, we all
know. I mean, these are first Hall of
Famers. Yeah.
I mean, Dexter's coming with us,right?
I mean Dexter Holland. I didn't even think of him.
Yeah, yeah, he's coming. The offspring.

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Not only the lead singer of The Offspring, but a PhD in
molecular biology. Whoa.
Yeah, I didn't know. Yeah, he actually defended his
doctoral thesis. I I researched him a little bit
because I, I like The Offspring,but I didn't know a lot about
the band. But he actually has his PhD.
So I mean, we're talking about smart, capable punk singer.
I mean, come on. Yeah, Logan can play guitar with

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him in the corner and Dan can grab the mic and rock out and.
I mean and if any molecular bileif some type of super virus
comes? That too, I was going with the
entertainment value. Some type of super virus horror
demon virus comes. We got we got a man.
Him and Fred Durst the old. Man in the in the right place.

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All right, so gavel sound for Dexter.
And Mick and Peanut. That was my call.
That's what I was going to say. The undead version, of course.
Yes, yeah, the undead, Yeah. Yeah, not the Angel.
Well, technically they're alwaysangels.
Right. First ballot hall.
Hall of farmers here. Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, how cool would they be, right?
Yeah, yeah. All right.
Gavel sound. I want one for my group.

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He'll die. Hey, you're pretty.
I want. The dad and the mom, I thought,
I really like Fred. Willard.
Fred Willard and I want the mom because true of your.
Wings getting crowded here. I don't care, I want a.
You know what we might need themfor Logan's wings so he can have
some parental figures. He's.
Gonna need some way and keep thefrog brothers in line.

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Yeah, not the Frog Brothers. We need someone to keep a Lex
Luthor from from getting into trouble.
God, all right, Gamble sound forLogan, the parents.
And I also got the grease. Guys from make it sound like a
clown. I also got the greaser guys from

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part 5 there, yeah. You're gonna say someone else?
Oh yeah, I mean I have I have one more late entry.
Mine is also Tanya and my only reason is devil costume.
That's good enough for me. I'm bringing it right.
This might be the most members we've.
Ever had one movie? I mean, I I've watched the Death

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Cast 60. I mean, unlike some of the
previous movies that we were watching where nobody dies, 16
people died in this movie. Christ, this is like a Jason.
Yeah, alright, gavel sound ton. Like you've seen one, Yeah.
I wouldn't know, but I've been told, yeah.
I've had some deaths. Wait till you go to hell.
Oh my God, 6. People in one movie Woo. 16,

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yeah. Well, six for the whole of
slain. Oh yeah, no, I mean.
No bones. Is bones alive?
Who's bones? Like the cat, I don't know that
cat. He died.
He was. There's no confirmation, plus
we. Don't want bones?
We don't need no bones. Yeah.
All right. All right, we're on to hook,
Line and Stinker. Our hook is our favorite kill in

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the movie, our line is our favorite line or quote in the
movie, and our stinker is something funny, awful or weird
that happens that makes the movie either better or worse.
I've always loved this one as a kid.
It's Mick getting the bottle to the head, and I specifically
love the makeup where he's just got the bottle in his head still
throughout. Yeah, that was.

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So cool. My line is going through the
vents. They're trying to help Anton
out. They get to Tanya a little too
late and Mick goes. OK, I'm not going through all
this. Tanya, go back.
Down Oh my God, the stinker. I mean, I couldn't really pull
out a lot of stinkers. It was just like the cat getting

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through and I thought it was a little like.
Man, I thought that was ridiculously funny.
I. Thought that was funny.
That was Fresh Prince style comedy with the with the fake
cat being. Thrown out.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I like it more as like
something I like that makes it alittle bit fun.
Oh. OK, OK.
I thought you were going to say because of animal cruelty, but
at the same time it's like, yeah, it's a fake.

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No, I laughed. It's a dog.
For me, Hook, I have the officer's death, the two for one
special, the sewing needle through the ears and the Taser
to the face. Taser face.
Taser, like I saw the Taser go, You saw all the Taser hit his
face and melted in, Yeah. Did you ever see Guardians of

(01:03:56):
the Galaxy? Yeah.
There's a character named Taser Face.
Yeah. That's the greatest with you.
I know. I just.
I love it. So much Taser face.
Line. It's the burrito scene where
Seth the Green is singing the burrito song, and then Devin
Sauer comes in and he sees him getting ready to open the the

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microwave up to get his burrito.And he's like, no.
And he's like. Sorry man, there were only.
Two. There was only two in the.
Burritos. I love it in the microwave.
Oh my God. And then my stinker is, is like,
sometimes it's just almost too stupid funny or character's
actions, like kind of like with Logan that was touching on a

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little bit earlier, like character's actions don't make a
lot of sense with like integral parts of the story, like Anton
and Molly being a thing so easily.
Like, you gave me my journal back and grabbed my ass.
You're my boyfriend now. Very faculty.
You helped me slay a demon, let's fuck.
I killed my parents and my 2 best friends.
Fuck it, I'm going to get high. Yeah, same.
Yeah, well, technically he didn't kill his parents.

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It was the hand. Yeah, you got him, believe me,
It was the hand. Maybe if his hands weren't idle,
he could have saved their lives.He had done something
productive, like worked on his Ford.
That's why I work on my Ford, man.
Yeah, that's why. Barack, how about you?
My line is Anton goes. You said you were just.
Unconscious. You lied to me.

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Hey, you killed me. All right?
Try and keep this thing in perspective.
Try and keep things in perspective.
Here. I thought, wait, wait a minute,
what's your hook? Oh, Hook, sorry, I jumped to
you're. Going to head.
I jumped the line. No, my hook is Tanya's death.
I thought that was awesome because there was a lot of
tension when he she put the the shoe in there is like the

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Chekhov's shoe kind of thing. And you knew the hand was gonna
come pull that out. And then it got wrapped around
and she, I don't know. I just thought it was a really
cool death. And then the pieces of her were
everywhere. I also had the cop's death, and
I thought the principal's death was pretty funny too, where he
was like, no, no, no, it's 825 is the number.
And he's like, oh, OK. He got a hand job.

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I was that was funny, my line. Like I said, the let's try and
keep perspective here. You know, I, I think Mick had a
bunch of 1 liners throughout this and you know the ending
where he, where he says that's it, that's it.
No explosions, no Hellfire. I mean, no, I'm glad everybody's
all right. But yeah, that was.
We that was we like I thought that was good because if you saw

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the other ending, it was had a lot of Hellfire and explosions
and yeah, the wall of hands. That had to be done on purpose.
Yeah, I think that was either Seth or the director's criticism
of changing the ending, the stinker again, the ending.
I just wish they had gone with the pool ending because it was
so much cooler. And I think it I think it would
have achieved the same thing. And for a movie that only made

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3,000,000 bucks, I feel like test audiences.
Who cares? Who cares about the test
audience? Like be true to yourself and
your art, you know what I mean? But OK, cool.
Yeah, that's what I got for Client's Tinker.
Logan, my hook. Taser face.
It is metaphorical. He wasn't grotem face.

(01:07:16):
Oh man, I will have guardians too.
Yeah, it's officer Taser face. I gave out so much when that
happened. I was like, ah, yes, what a cool
kill. And even with I think like also
Dan, you touch on a little bit like the needle through the
head. Oh, what a cool kill.
It was so awesome and I love howlong it took to get to it
because it was just like you knew it was going to happen.

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But I love it so much. They deserved it after they give
him shit for littering. Man, you better.
Yeah, they set up them as the. This isn't the smell like
marijuana. It smells like marijuana to me.
Write it up bro. What?
It's empty. It's an empty bag.
My wine. Now this is a long one, but it's
just because it legitimately made me laugh so hard.

(01:07:59):
Dearly beloved, we're gathered here today because you're all.
Dead. You're all dead.
It's all my fault, Mom. Dad, you fed me, kept the roof
over my head until I killed you.So.
I guess if you look at that way,I, I haven't been a good son,
but I'm really, really, really sorry.
And wherever you are, I just want you to forgive me because.

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I'm going to try to change. And I'm going to try to change
Mick Peanut. I'll never forget all those
times we sat around, watched TV and got really, really stoned.
And all those other times we just.
I guess that's all we did. Well, I guess that's all we did.
Amen. What are eulogy?
I love that he started out with Dearly Beloved.

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I was like, Oh my God, this guysan idiot because you're all
dead. I also did have, I'm going to
call 911, what's the number? Which is really good, stinker.
I did have pretty much anything that had to do with Molly.
I didn't like anything that I thought her character was so
one-dimensional. It was just really bad.
And the ending too. Any honorable mentions?

(01:09:04):
Yes, for kills, I like the head splat in the car, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, Tanya's death was pretty.
Well, Tanya's death was a littlelame, but like the I love how
they use splatter, like with themom with the head splash.
Yeah, like I thought I was really cool.
Also stinker, the muffler bong. Yeah, I don't understand that.

(01:09:26):
Ohh. Like, you know, I thought it was
cool. I was like, that guy's like, oh,
that was. What he made to make it better.
Yeah, I mean, that's great. I think anything like Bear Call
said, anything that Mick said isreally on wine for like, great
stuff, because everything he said was just amazing.
I loved it so much. One line that got me a lot was
when they were in the microwave and pinup was like we.

(01:09:47):
Should clean it first. Hey yeah, and while we're right,
we can clean the whole fucking house St. our man.
Like that's such like a Stoner thing.
Like no, this isn't my problem. Like.
I love the line where he's like,gotta go out and talk to Molly
and he's like, maybe you should go put on some pants.
Pants help. Dookie the dog, too.
Any, any scene with Dookie the dog?

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Yeah. I like that he held on to the
dog and he's like, yeah, it's very Scooby-doo and shit.
Most wish Dookie had died. Almost that would bring.
Him in the hall of. Sling, we can put him in the
Logan wing, yeah. No more going into Logan's.
Wing, also known as the clown car.
Dad, I'm telling you right now, there's the character we're
nominating in our next movie that will for sure be going into

(01:10:32):
the Logan. I'm gonna have to blow out
another section in the hall, no.It's the clown car.
They're all fit in one. Little clown.
Car. It's one tiny room like an
orphanage, people. An orphanage is not a nice
mansion above the hill. Dude. 30 people to A room.
Oh man, it's time for our final race.

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They're going to raise the movie.
Where will they raise the? Movie The Killer.
Is great. The victim sucks.
This survivor is in between. What was that?
Now, if this is your first time listening, we have a three tier
rating system. Killer is our best, our middle

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tier is Survivor. And finally, it's the dreaded
Victim. For me, I'm rating Idle Hand's a
killer. I've been on a pretty steady
killer rating. System here.
I wonder why? But we were like 13 when all
these movies came out. Yeah, I mean, I love these
movies. They're all part of why I love
horror. So like I can't maybe look at

(01:11:36):
them other than the nostalgia glasses, but I think especially
Idle Hands does something different.
It is unique. It does blend comedy, it does
blend horror and it blends good horror.
Like if you're a horror fan, thegore scenes, like some of the
tension scenes, they're really good.
And like I touched on earlier, the Halloween atmosphere I think
is very underrated in this movie.

(01:11:58):
Another great Devon Sawa 90s movie for sure.
And I think Idle Hands is one ofthose movies that it was kind of
the end of its error a little bit.
And I I wish we would see more like this.
That kind of took chances because I think Idle Hands did
take a big chance on what they were doing.
That's why I'm giving a killer Dan, how about you?
For me, Idle Hands is also a killer.

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It's a lot of fun, great kills, great effects.
It does a great job of blending horror and comedy elements.
I definitely recommend giving a watch for yourself if you've
never seen it. The beginning is a little slow
moving, but it's a mindless ride.
No thinking required, you will have a bad time if you try to
while ignoring the magic of thisfilm and that it is pure ID

(01:12:46):
energy. I watch this movie and it hits
me in the nostalgia feels unlikeany movie we've covered.
It's more of an unflattering andover the top depiction of kids
in the late 90s that feels more akin to my experience than like
the screams or the I Know What You Did Last Summer is where,
like the characters, they're teens like in the universe, but

(01:13:07):
written by adults, written by adults.
Yeah, yeah. Bear Claw, how about you?
I mean, hand in microwave fingers and pencil sharpeners,
killer. Come on.
I mean, you've got a disembodiedhand running around, you've got
hilarity, you've got zombie bestfriends.
I mean, what more? What more do you want for a
horror movie? Really.

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What? More do you need what?
More. What more are you asking for?
All right, Logan, this movie sucks.
Dang I hate this movie with a passion because of what it gave
me and what it didn't give me. I wanted this movie to be a
straight up slasher movie. Instead I got a demonic
possession movie with mindless characters and comedy that went

(01:13:50):
one way and went out the other. I think this movie is a mindless
90s movie that should never be rewatched.
I think this deserves the box office that it got.
I will give it props for two characters that are in the
greatest of all time character list of Peanut and Mick.
You're gonna say the mom and dadthe mom.

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And dad too. The mom and dad, they're
awesome. I love them so much.
I love them. I love.
Them I always give Fred Willer his due.
Yeah, Fred. Willer is crazy.
Wasn't in that. And that's fine.
He gave me what I needed. Any more of him I would have not
invited him in the got enough. Anymore of anymore of him and it

(01:14:30):
would have been blow blow a victim.
I think this movie does what I need to do is very unique.
And check out Best in the Show. I think you'd like that a lot.
Oh no, I will not watch that. No, I don't think I.
Will you like Fred Willard? You know though I will say there
are good aspects of this movie but it is not for me.
I give this surprisingly a low end survivor for the 1st 20

(01:14:54):
minutes that it gave me. Wow, I was talking a victim.
This was terrible, but it's a survivor.
It's a survivor. I feel like it's practical
effects. Got to put it over the line.
Something Mick and Pinob were the greatest comedy duo and they
they saved the movie. Like I said I don't think if
there was no comedy to this movie, no this movie would have
been below a victim. I would have not rated this.

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Movie. Oh, I I can agree with you on
that, 100. Percent like this movie would
have been totally lost so that Ithink Devon Saw was great but I
just don't think I cared enough about it making pinob forever.
Nathan producer gave his rating and he said, When I saw Idle
Hands in high school I loved it,but upon rewatch I've realized
that was probably because I was really stoned.

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It's still a fairly clever and fun movie, but the Stoner comedy
aspect just doesn't hit like it used to.
Survivor, join me. We also asked you, our audience,
what your thoughts were on Idle Hands.
I mean, I'll just take no victims.
I mean, I'll. From Paul Long, 114, the first

(01:15:58):
DVD that I ever bought. From Breaking the Ghoul.
I absolutely love this movie. Total killer.
It's funny and the practical effects are great.
Eldon Henson and Seth Green's looks are iconic.
Yeah, for sure. Yes.
From Modern Monstrous. I don't think I've ever heard of
this movie. That's a good thing.

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Keep it that way. Yeah, a lot of people, like I
said earlier, had messaged us and they're like, you know, you
know, I haven't heard of this movie and.
It's a victim of circumstance. I can see a lot of folks it
going one or two ways. I can see if you're like a
serious whorehead. You might not like it because
it's too comedic, but if you like a little comedy in there, I
think it's got something for you.
Yeah, for sure. Thank you all so much for your

(01:16:40):
comments. We love hearing from all of you.
And if you're interested in commenting on any of the movies
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room@outlook.com. Before we end the episode, we
want to embrace the madness and let you all know what we've been
up to. For me, this past week, I

(01:17:02):
watched my first Godzilla movie ever.
I watched Godzilla -1 for straight jacket tone.
That was your first movie. God bless you made it through
the whole thing, huh? I liked it.
You don't like it, Huh? I.
Thought it was the slowest movie.
Wow, fool this man. I tried to watch the first hour

(01:17:23):
of that movie and I was like nothing has happened yet.
Did you watch it in black and white?
No, I watched that looks in color.
I mean, yes, that whole like visual effects, but like the
first hour of that movie was like talking and like maybe if
you're in a like Japanese film criticism or something, maybe it
has something to say about it. But man, to the first hour of

(01:17:45):
that movie drag where I was like, I don't even get like my
wife and I, we sat down and watched it and it was like, it
was one of those things we were like expecting a Godzilla movie.
And then an hour of an hour of talking later and I was like,
I'm done with. This.
Yeah. I mean, I can understand that
from that point of view for sure, because there is like a
big story that kind of Godzilla's a part of, but it's

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not necessarily every. Godzilla movie has that, though.
Yeah, Like the one with Elizabeth Olsen there.
That one is like, Oh yeah, here's his family, but also
Godzilla's there too. Yeah, for sure.
And if you want to hear all my thoughts on Godzilla -1 go to
our YouTube channel and check out our Straight Jacket Talk
episode on it. I also watched a horror movie

(01:18:29):
called New Life and this was a recommendation from my cousin
who his good buddy is the director of it.
And so I went and checked it out.
It's currently on Hulu. It was pretty good, especially
for like like very low budget movie.
I thought the cinematography wasamazing.
I thought they had a really goodstory.

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And, you know, it is a slow burn, which for me is difficult
sometimes. I think this is a movie that
like on a rewatch, I would even like more because once I get the
pacing idea down, then it's better for me.
But I think the payoff at the end is pretty cool and it tells,
like I said, a really good story.
So I definitely recommend checking it out.

(01:19:09):
That's it for me. How about you, Dan?
I had the opportunity to catch the original 89 Batman and
Batman Returns as a double feature.
At. Theaters a couple weeks ago,
they had like a release for likea one night only.
And yeah, it was fucking amazingto get to see them both on the
big screen. Just there's something about

(01:19:30):
seeing like one of them classic movies like in in theater.
It was a great reminder of how amazing Jack Nicholson's Joker
was. Yeah, I would have loved to have
seen that in theaters. Seeing them back-to-back made me
like really appreciate 89 Batmanhaving the right tone and
balance. It was like, it's like the

(01:19:50):
perfect Batman movie. That that all balance city and
like just the feel, the whole like feel of those movies is so
like grim and dark. All balance, everything should
be. But to your point though, like
getting to see Batman one and Batman 2 like in the same city
Returns like has really awesome villains like with DeVito and as

(01:20:14):
Penguin and Pfeiffer as Catlin but it's too much Burton and not
enough Batman like. After.
The Batman like it's just too it's they gave Burton too much
creative and returns. They do that a lot of times with
some creators, you know, they just let him off the leash and
it's like, yeah, the leash mighthave been what was been

(01:20:35):
warranted a little. You want to hear a little fun
fact about that? And I was just about to talk
about in my thing about I watched a video on Tim Burton
and that is directorial stuff. And the big thing was during
that time he was really getting big as a director and people
were really wanting him to direct stuff like Beetlejuice he
was on and Scissor Hands and he was going to do Nightmare Before

(01:20:57):
Christmas. But at the same time as that was
about happening, he was supposedto direct Nightmare Before
Christmas. They wanted him to come back to
do Batman Returns and they're like, OK, we want you back.
But because you were really mad about Batman 89, not you weren't
given a lot of like creative control.
This movie we're going to give you 100% creative control.

(01:21:17):
And he's like, shit, I'm in. And that's why instead of him
directing nightmares, someone else stepped in.
And that was the. So they they basically lured him
away from that project to do Batman by giving him that full
creative. Sucks too is it's called Tim
Burton's number. Before Christmas he showed up at
least like maybe three times that set to see it, but like

(01:21:38):
other than that he really didn'ttouch it with him.
He just had his name attached. He had his name and he kind of
wrote the story, but everything else was not his.
There's a book and I saw this and I almost got it, but I
didn't have time to read it. There is a screenplay for like
Harvey Dent played by Was it played by Carl Weathers than the
original? No Billy.
Billy Williams. Billy Williams, There is a whole

(01:22:00):
screenplay of like the Joker coming back and like a second
Batman. That's like totally different
than that. They recently published it into
the book. Was it?
I read it. I read.
It Bob become the jokers. Yes, I will give you the book
because I think you would reallylike it.
I think that's your kind of yeah, it's really good.
And they're making a second one too that looks like really good

(01:22:21):
and supposed to finish off like the author's like plan of like
what would happen. It's really good.
Kind of reminds me also like of this obscure thing with Superman
where they were gonna have Nicholas Cage be Superman.
Yeah. They had him be one of them
like. They had him in like a suit and
everything. I think he owns the suit
doesn't. He I would be.

(01:22:44):
Wasn't Tim Burton gonna do Superman and it was gonna be
Nicholas? Cage, that's what it was, yeah.
If Arnold still has, I don't. Know I'd watch that movie, yeah,
for sure. Yeah.
I would watch the shit out of the yeah.
Oh my God. Nick Cage.
OK, Yeah. Is that it for you?
Yeah, it's it for. Me all right, Berkola.
I've been watching too much, butI started watching the new alien

(01:23:05):
Earth. Oh yeah, I.
Heard about that? It's.
Pretty good things. I was really really good thus
far. I've been really enjoying it.
I'm only like 2 episodes in so really a good time.
I'd recommend it thus far. I don't know that I can give it
a full heart. I haven't watched the whole
thing. I like the Alien franchise.
I like the fact that the continuity is all over the
place. I think that's probably closer
to what if there was a real lifething, the continuity probably

(01:23:28):
would be all over the place. So I don't know.
I I liked it. I would recommend watching it.
That's what I've been watching. I'm very excited about the new
Hellraiser video game that's coming out.
I'm very excited about the new Michael Myers video game that's
coming out. John Carpenter's also got
another one like Toxic Rangers or something that's coming out
that looks good. So I mean, horror and video
games, let me tell you, it's going to be big guys.

(01:23:49):
It's common. It's going to be big.
Common. It's.
Going to be big horror and videogames.
I know, Logan, how about you? Pretty much I've been getting
into like the world of British movies and more importantly,
I've been getting into The Kingsman.
Oh my God, I love that movie. So goddamn my.
Teletubbies, but. Yeah.

(01:24:09):
That too. I was going to say downtown.
I've been watching Down in Abbey.
World War One was horrific, guys.
I really, you know what? That might be my top five movies
of all time. I really enjoy that.
It's on top 4, but it's really good.
The Secret Service is like in 2014, 2015.

(01:24:31):
It's so much fun. I love that movie so much.
I love Tara Egerton, I love everyone in the movie.
Michael Caine's in it. My God, like, it's just like,
it's everything you need. Samo Jackson's the bad guy.
Like it's just it's so good. Mark Hamill shows up for some
reason. It's like the greatest cast of
all time. It's so much fun.

(01:24:52):
I had a lot of fun watching that.
I think like there's not a lot of movies that can really like
uplift you, but that movie is just like, it's so insane.
I. Love it so much.
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(01:25:35):
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Or -1. I can't believe you.
You don't like it. Especially in black and white.
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(01:25:57):
Idle Hands. We'll be back soon with another
episode and we're going to be reviewing Logan's Pick Five
Nights at Freddy's. Join us as Matt Tober is just
getting started. But until then, back to the
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(01:26:17):
from the field. Barely, barely got out of there
with my asshole virginity in place.
Yeah, Bigfoot got me. I didn't see anything.
I was kind of just hanging out in the kitchen the entire time,
so. Well, we got a call from this
establishment. There might be some possible
animatronics that are possessed,I don't know.
Should we go in? Pretty creepy.

(01:26:38):
I I don't weird, I don't feel good about this guy's.
Wait a minute. Are those possessed animal
electronics? Oh, no.
Oh. God, what is?
Everybody else still like pizza?Oh no, you don't want to eat
that pizza bear cloth. It's.
Eyes are. Glowing.
Oh God, Oh no, oh God, we got toget out of here.

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