From Dusk Till Dawn (1996): Straitjacket Talk

Before Grindhouse, there was From Dusk Till Dawn! Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez team up to make one of the most iconic vampire movies of all time. The twist, is one that will be remembered forever..but is it good? Kevin, Nathan, and Gill discuss if this is in the upper echelon of horror or if it just SUCKS..

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We got hot pussy, cold pussy. We got wet pussy, We got smelly
pussy. It's all just vampire pussy at
the end of the day. Nothing better.

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Hey everyone, welcome to Straitjacket Talk, where it's
two guys, a girl, and a horror show.
My name is Kevin and I'm joined by a guy whose name is Nathan,
but he prefers to go by Sex Machine.
It's Nathan. Oh sorry, Sex Machine I have a
penis gun. Yeah, you do.

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Can you show it to us? No, that's against TOS.
Unfortunate. Boo.
I'm also joined by a girl who was kicked out of the Titty
Twister. It's Jill.
Why'd they get kicked out? You're not a trucker.
I would be working in the Titty Twister first of all, but
appreciate it. I was going to say, maybe you
rival Salma Hayek with the the Snake dance.

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Oh, I have a question about that.
We can talk about it later. We watched From Dusk Till Dawn
from 1996. It was written by Quentin
Tarantino, directed by Robert Rodriguez.
This also stars Quentin Tarantino.
I used to think that this movie was also directed by Quentin
Tarantino because it's become like his movie.

(01:33):
Yeah, it seems like any movie that Quentin Tarantino is a part
of kind of becomes his movie in in people's minds.
You can very much tell it's directed by Robert Rodriguez, if
you if you like his work at all.For sure.
This also stars George Clooney in his first major motion
picture role. So he's out of ER and into the

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vampire stuff. The way it should be.
He's a rainbow. Oh.
You like him? Oh yeah, he's a sexy guy.
I agree. When Tarantino, not so much,
But. Definitely not downgrade.
This movie has an ensemble cast,does it not?

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We have Harvey Keitel, Salma Hayek, Juliette Lewis, Cheech
Marin, Danny Trejo, Tom Savini and Fred Williamson.
I mean, this is like the who's who of of horror and and other
movies. You forgot a couple.
There's also Cheech Marin and Cheech Marin.

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Dude, he's an All Star in this movie, is he not?
He's great. Every time he shows up on
screen, I'm happy no matter which role it is he's in 'cause
he plays 3 roles in this movie and just nobody even notices.
Nobody. Like they're not twins.
It's not a thing. Like, yeah.
That was confusing for me. Actually, everyone looked the

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same to me. Let's go teach marriage three
times. I've seen this movie 100 times
and I don't know why, but I never remember that.
So every time I see it, I'm like, holy cow, it's Cheech
again. Again.
Again. Again.
Oh, my goodness. From Dust Till Dawn had a budget

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of $19,000,000. Do you know how much it made at
the box office, Nathan? Well, it must have been
successful enough that he was able to do Pulp Fiction.
So what do you say, 19? I'll go $60 million.
I could be wrong, but I think Pulp Fiction came out before
this. Yeah, I believe you're right.

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Yeah, 94, you're right. Anyway, I'll get the points.
Nathan made it. I'm right.
Woo. You said 60,000,060 million.
Yeah. Jill, what's your thoughts?
Yeah, I'm thinking 72500 mil. Wait, what?

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72. 72 and a half million. Yeah.
OK. 500. Five, 500 bucks.
I don't know, I just wanted to add 500.
Well, regardless, not great at 72 million and 500.

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And 500 million, 72500 million. So 572 million, this number is
getting stretched out here. 72 million, 500, whatever.
Thousand. Yeah.
Okay, okay. 100,000 500. Well, you're both over Joe, by a

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lot. Ohh boy, I don't know.
But you did not do well then I take it?
No, Nathan, you're actually pretty close.
You're just barely over it. Gross $59.3 million.
So you're like, right there. Yeah.

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So it was reasonably successful then.
Currently, on Rotten Tomatoes, From Dusk Till Dawn has a 65%
critic score and a 76% audience score.
Our good friend Roger Ebert, he actually didn't mind this movie.
He gave From Dusk Till Dawn three out of four stars.
I don't care what that man says,like at all, sorry.

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Oh, my goodness. Well, I hope you care what we
all think. Before we go any further, if you
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the first to know. Isn't that right?
Sex machine? Yes, it's a privilege.
This was Nathan's pick for an episode.
So, Nathan, why did you choose From Dusk Till Dawn for us to

(06:08):
review? I mostly chose it because I
hadn't seen it in, you know, a good five or six years and I
wanted to watch it again. And this is a is a good excuse.
But yeah, I mean, the first timeI watched this movie, I was, I
don't know, 14 or 15 years old. And it was on TV and I had no

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idea what I was getting myself into.
I had never heard of this movie before at the time.
So when it all of a sudden turned to vampires, my mind was
just blown because I, I suppose we should have put a spoiler
warning in there 'cause I mean, I know it's old, but the, the

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vampire twist, if you don't, if you know about it already when
you watch it kind of ruins it. I think.
Dude, this movie is almost 30 years old.
I ain't come on. I know, but I don't want to
like. It does ruin it because.
Yeah. I had never seen it before, but
I've seen some of the sequels, right?

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So you knew about the vampires? I knew about the vampires, but
this went on way too long without the vampires 'cause I'm
waiting for the vampires. I'm like, where's the horror?
I'm like, this is not horror. This is like Pulp Fiction meets
like like RV or like Are We there yet Or something like
that. Where are the freaking vampires?

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When I watched it, I didn't knowthat there were vampires.
And I'm a fan of Quentin Tarantino.
I'm a fan of Robert Rodriguez. So I like the crime thriller
thing. So when it turned from a crime
thriller into vampires, I, you know, sent me over the edge.
I don't know. Yeah, no, I get it that that
that's a cool twist when you're not expecting it.

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Yeah, exactly. I think it's a great movie.
I love it. So wait a minute, Jill, this is
the first time you've seen From Dust.
Yeah, you guys are killing me here with like 2.
Like. Thrillers in a row.
I'm just a girl. We're just two old man George
Clooney. Yeah, he's hot.

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But OK, here's my thing. Because I didn't see it before
and I've seen sequels and I was like, OK, bring on the vampires.
But not just vampires like I want them to be like hot like
vampire hotties. It was a jump scare I guess when
that first vampire the girl withthe snake is.
Salma Hayek, Yes. When she turns into a vampire.

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I'm. Like oh God, they're so scary.
That's not attractive at all. This is like Buggy the Vampire
Slayer like vampires, not like hot sexy like romantic vampires
like that I that I want. But yeah, I do love Buffy, but I
was like, God, God damn. There's a few sexy vampires in

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there. I guess they start looking like,
kind of like werewolves, you know, like, yeah.
So it's like a little bit. I I did like the effects,
though, and I like Tom Savini's vampire a lot.
I thought that was so funny whenhe's like turning into a vampire
and he's trying to hide it. Hide it like that was great.
I was expecting like the sex machine gun, yes, to explode

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like, but it didn't happen. What a tease.
Yeah, what a tease. But yeah, Tom and be great.
I'm just happy he used that gun in this 'cause I feel like that
would have been the ultimate tease if he just showed his
pistol kind of like and didn't use it.
True, you can't tease that gun and then not have it go off.
You just it, it would be it would be like a cheat.

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You'd be cheat in the audience. That's cool.
I'm I'm like psyched to hear that this was your first time
watching it, especially like yousaw the sequels first and then
and then this one. That actually kind of makes me
sad that you saw the sequels first.
I've never seen them, but I've heard nothing but bad things
about them so. I I know I liked one of the ones

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I saw. I think it was like rave to the
grave. I.
Haven't seen any of those sequels.
I think I rented it when I was ateenager and I was like, really
into it was. It was cheesy, but I was really
into it. But yeah, I think it was a lot
more of an updated kind of version and a different type of
story because it was more like vampire focus rather than like,

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you know, you have this kind of crime thriller going on and then
it jumps into this vampire movie.
Yeah. That's kind of, yeah, it's, it's
kind of weird. I like your, like, take on it
because it's a unique perspective.
I think one of the things I wanted to say is actually now
I'm seeing what Nathan's saying about a spoiler thing, because I

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think it does. If you haven't seen anything and
you've been sheltered and you gointo this, I think it's probably
the best viewing experience because when that twist happens,
you're like, whoa, like, wait, you know vampires.
What is this movie? Not trying to spoil anything,
but a newer movie called Sinnershas kind of some similar flavors

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to From Dusk till Dawn, in whichwhat is cool is Sinners out and
doing really well. I think has shined light on from
dusk till dawn because I'm not the only one who's seen those
like similarities and has pointed it out so.
That's really cool. It also reminded me of Rob

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Zombie's brother Spider 1. He made, I don't know if it's a
Shutter exclusive, but he made amovie called Bury the Bride.
It's similar because it's like in the South and you have like
these Hicks and if there's no hints at all of it's like a big

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twist and it's the same like, I don't know, it really got me.
I was like, holy shit, like redneck vampires.
Seen that movie and now I know the twist.
Spoil that. Erase his mind.
You need to edit that in the fuck well.
Can't edit it out of my brain. I'm sorry.

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Maybe edit it and add the fact that there's a similar twist,
right? That was shocking.
I'm sorry. It's OK.
No, no, it's it's hard with these sort of movies because
like I think the twist is a lot of why.
Like this movie in particular isiconic and kind of stands the

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test of time because I really don't remember any other movie
up until this point doing this sort of twist because I always
remembered it as, like Jill said, like a crime thriller.
And then I thought that the ending was the twist, but this
is like half the movie that it it.

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Yeah. It's not really even A twist.
It's not like all the sudden a character you know is is the
killer. And you never would have
expected that or anything. It's just like all the sudden
it, it just turns just like, youknow, Salma Hayek, it's her face
transforms and now we're dealingwith vampires.

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The entire tone of the movie changes from like, sort of
serious and a bit disturbing even in parts, to silly.
You know, guitar players playingsevered torso guitars.
And parts of guns. And you know, yeah, I love the

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the band was was great. Oh my.
God, thing was great. Yes, Nathan, you sparked
something in my mind. Because years later, Robert
Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino would go on to do the Grindhouse
movie, with Planet Terror being the first movie and Death Proof
being the second movie, right? And Robert Rodriguez, OK, I'm

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not gonna spoil him for you, OK?But Robert Rodriguez directed
the first one, Planet Terror, which was very much like this
grindhouse Bee Movie, you know, fast pace kind of what this
scene in the Titty Twister is with the vampires and stuff.
Yeah, everything Tarantino Twister is very Bee Movie 100%.

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And Quentin Tarantino directs Death Proof, which is more to
the first part of this movie. So just thinking about that now,
my mind is blown. That's a really good comparison.
Yeah, I really liked both of those too, because they were
very like short, like quick pace, then they're short.
In that situation, they were like 100% separate movies.

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This kind of combines them into 1.
So it's unique. I mean you have to give them
credit for this movie. Although I think one of the
advantages of this movie basically being 2 movies is I do
think this movie is very fast-paced.
Maybe Jill, you disagree becauseyou were waiting for vampires

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and it took an hour to get to the vampires.
I was like, yeah. But in in my opinion, not a
moment is wasted in this movie, especially if you don't you're
not waiting for a particular moment to happen.
Like the whole crime thriller thing is like just compelling
scene after compelling scene. And then of course, you have

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that Tarantino dialogue throughout the whole thing, and
Tarantino dialogue is masterful.Look.
You asked me to act natural and act natural.
In fact, in the circumstances, Ithink I had to get a fucking
Academy Award for how natural, and I did.
You asked me to get rid of him. I'm doing my best.
Well, you were best better get ahell of a lot fucking better or

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you were going to feel a hell ofa fucking worse.
Every character, you just believe that they're that
character, whether they're horrible or nice.
Mostly horrible. The thing is, nobody talks like
that and it still feels natural and it's funny, you know?
And it it's funny and it breaks the tension when you have
something horrific going on. Yeah, I just love Tarantino's

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dialogue. You know, I'm not as big a
Tarantino fan as a lot of peopleare, but there's no denying that
if people are talking in this movies, your.
Eyes are glued to it. I have a unique, like Tarantino
experience because this is one of the first, maybe the first
Tarantino movie I ever saw. And I really liked it a lot.

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And then I would go on to see like Pulp Fiction and Reservoir
Dogs and things like that. But I was always looking for
kind of that twist of like the vampires and something like
different. And I didn't get when are the
werewolves showing up? Yeah, right, yeah, right.
I, you know where I got that. I got that like recently, a few

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years back with Once Upon a Timein Hollywood.
I had to wait a while not to spoil that.
Yeah, I haven't seen that one either.
Oh, yeah, I recommend it. But it is a it is a different
kind of movie, too. The problem with trying to watch
a Tarantino movie you haven't seen is that they're all three
hours long. So you have to, you have to cut

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out that time. You have to commit to it.
I want to touch on what you saidbecause I do think this gets us
right into the story, like rightaway, because you have the cop
who's talking to the conveniencestore owner at the beginning and
they're kind of talking about, you know, how did you hear about
the murders, blah, blah, blah. I guess you heard about that

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shit up Mambling bank robbery. It's always been on the box all
day. It killed some.
People in there, yeah. And then all of a sudden, the
ableist in the meantime and, youknow.
Yeah. And then they're right there,
you know, and here comes and then we're introduced to to Seth

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and Richie right away. I want to get your thoughts on
Seth and Richie because they're dynamic is very, I think like
realistic in a way, but also they're two like complete
different psychopaths sort of deal.
Jill, what'd you think of Seth and Richie I?
Thought they were really funny and I and I like the dynamic

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like you said, like you have oneguy who is kind of morally
corrupt and he's judging this other guy who is questionably
more morally corrupt. This is not me.
I am a professional fucking thief.
I don't kill people that I don'thave to, and I don't fucking
rape women. What you are doing, what you are

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fucking. Doing and it creates a fun kind
of dynamic and it's kind of likeyou have like the smart one and
the dumb one like with with two villains.
That's why I felt like I was watching like Home Alone.
You left the water running, didn't you?
What's wrong with you? Why do you do that?
I told you not to do it, Harry. It's Our Calling card.

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You know, that's a good comparison.
So yeah, I thought it, I thoughtit was funny.
What did you think, Kevin? I really got like the Big
Brother little brother dynamic from their interactions,
especially with Seth telling him, you know, put in your mouth
guard and. Put in your bed.

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I grind my teeth. I grind my teeth.
I love Scott's reaction. He's like, he's like, should I
laugh? Or probably not a good idea.
Seth, I think. I mean, obviously George
Clooney, he's so charismatic, but he is such a good,
believable bad guy too, because he can bullshit his way out of

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anything. If you, you know, he knows how
to talk. But also from his actions in
this movie, we know that he is like certifiably insane too.
It's just I think he straddles that line better than Richie,
whereas Richie is. Just certifiably insane.

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And like if he didn't have sat there to balance him out, who
knows what he would be doing really.
And obviously you get that scenewhere Richie raped and and
killed that hostage they had. And like Sat was like flipping
the shit out at him. But then at the end of the day
it's his brother. So he's like, yeah.

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And that, that scene with the flashes of what's going on, you
can't, you don't really see it. That woman who wouldn't have
said shit if she had a mouthful.It wrong, wrong, wrong.
After you left, she became a completely different person.
Yeah. It allows your imagination to go
wild, which is awesome. Yeah, I think George Clooney's

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performance as Seth, it's important that despite him being
a disgusting and horrible character, that he also be
likable in some ways. And George Clooney manages to
pull that off. And I feel like if George
Clooney hadn't managed to pull that off, if he wasn't George
Clooney, I feel like this movie wouldn't be good because you

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would just hate any other actor playing a character who would do
these kinds of things. And then of course, Richie is is
not likable at all. He is just outright crazy.
He he also hallucinates things. So I think he is some sort of

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like schizophrenic or something like that, as well as being a
psychopath because he's like he mouthed help us and like you
watch the movie. No, he didn't.
And he spouts off about, oh, shebecame a totally different
person after you left. And that's why I had to rape and

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murder her in a horrific way. And same with the daughter when
he thinks she, you know, suggested something dirty and
she didn't. Richie, could you do me a favor
and eat my pussy for me, please?Sure.

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The hallucination that we saw actually through this lens, but
we can just kind of like put it together to that it didn't
actually happen. What did I say at the hotel do?
You mean what you said back there in the room?
What I got to say, I think that was the first time I ever heard

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a girl use the pussy word like so this was an eye opening film,
but then the word worry, then the wet pussy is the eye opening
part. Though, over and over.
Yeah, the word pussy has got to be used the most in this movie
ever. No all.

(23:20):
Right pussy, pussy pussy. Come on in pussy lover.
It's used more than the word theOh my goodness.
Another thing I really loved is how Seth is trying to kind of
find some sort of law and rules within his like, psychopathic

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world. You know, because first he gives
the hostage his rules to survive.
I'm going to ask you one question and all I want is a yes
or no answer. Do you want to live through
this? Good.
Rule #1 no noise. And he kind of does the same
thing with the family when he meets up with them too.

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And he also does something wherehe goes, I give you my word.
And it mirrors with both situations too.
You hang in there, you follow the rules and you don't fuck
with us and you'll get out of this alive.
I give you my word. You get us in New Mexico and you
don't try to escape, and your daughter will be safe.

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And in the morning, morning I will let you go.
I give you my word. Jacob, like his word, means
something. The problem is, is that Richie
doesn't follow his word. So, you know, there at this
whole time, there's this threat of Richie popping off and not
following the plan and not keeping Seth's word.

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I give you my word. That woman tried to escape and I
did what I had to do. And the fact that he's giving
his word and trying to help these people through this, well,
that's the wrong way to putting it.
But he's trying to keep these people alive through what he's
doing to them. Unfortunately, it makes it more
likable. I'm sorry.
It does. He's a likable character even

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though everything he does is awful.
Yeah. Because I mean, he even has
small talk with Jacob and, and the RV and stuff and Jacob at
one point just stops and he's like, he's like, I've had enough
of this getting to know each other shit.
I. Think I've gotten about as up
close and personal with you as I'm going to get.
Let's. Just keep this friendly, OK
pops. Like, I know Seth was being kind

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of pushing the button of the thewife being dead and stuff like
that, but right, right. Like at the same time, you're
right though, he is likable in his own fucked up way.
Yeah. Why though?
Seth knows how Richie is. Why is he leaving Richie alone
with the girl there? What's her name?
Kate. I would have them separated if I

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was Seth. Seth is still he's a bad guy.
Like he's going to get mad at Richie for doing something, but
at the end of the day, it doesn't, it doesn't change
anything for him. He's still a nasty, murdering
criminal, you know, so that's why he's not that concerned at

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the end of the day. Do you know who he reminds me
of? Negan from The Walking Dead.
Like just a very charismatic badguy.
Where's Rick? I don't care.
Where's Rick? Right.
He's horrible, but you just haveto love him.
Yeah, I don't watch The Walking Dead, so I'll have to take your

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word for it, but I get what you're saying.
You should like look up a video.I'll have to send you one later
to show you with the dialogue and like the delivery because it
it also goes with the quote I'm going to talk about later.
But yeah, we'll talk about that later.
I mean, to Nathan's point, having this kind of charismatic
bad guy, it makes the movie. It really does.

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Like if you don't have that partand an actor who can pull it
off. Yeah.
It it helps that he looks like George Clooney too, is the thing
where he's real. She looks like a fucking sleaze.
Like, well, he looks like Quentin Tarantino and Tarantino
is a bit of a sleaze. So, you know, I mean, he wrote
this movie and he has a foot fetish and he wrote Salma Hayek

(27:27):
putting her foot into his mouth.Oh yeah.
And he wrote the fucking like Juliette Lewis's foot too.
Like why'd she have bare feet he's looking at?
You know why? Cuz Quentin Tarantino gets to
look at her feet because he wrote it that way.
What did you guys think of the family dynamic between Jacob

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being this retired minister, Kate being the dot?
How old do you think Kate was? Did they say the only clue that
they really give is she says I'mnot 21 yet?
OK, so I'm guessing like 19 or 20.
I don't think she's like, for some reason I feel like she's

(28:08):
not like 16, but she's definitely very young.
But we don't know how how old Scotty is either.
I feel like he's like 1516. Oh, he's adopted for sure.
Well, yeah, he's Japanese, right?
We're. Chinese.
How's that happen? You don't look Japanese.
Either does he he looks Chinese.He doesn't look Japanese either.

(28:30):
He's Chinese. There's a lot of racial jokes in
this movie. Yeah, Tarantino goes there.
You know, he's not afraid to write a character, to be an
asshole and have him be an asshole in that way.
So what did you think of their dynamic together on the road in
the RV? Jill?

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Did you did you find them interesting or did you kind of
think like they're just kind of cannon fodder to to be murdered
by by these guys? I didn't think they were cannon
fodder because I could tell thatSeth and Richie, like, well,
maybe not Richie. Seth.
Yeah, we'll stick to Seth. Like, cared about them, like the

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kids and everything. And like, you know, even though
he said he didn't care, like probably multiple times, you can
tell he does and he is looking out for him so adds another like
likeability point to him. So I kind of like the weird back
and forth between them all. It was kind of cute.
Nathan, what do you think of Harvey Keitel as Jacob?

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Harvey Keitel is an incredibly talented actor.
I, I don't think I've ever seen him do anything I didn't like.
I liked Jacob's character a lot,how he, he was just sort of lost
and, and grieving, but also trying to protect his family.
Scotty he didn't really have a lot of characteristics to him.

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Kate was was cool. She had the same problem as
Scotty until all of a sudden shewent badass towards the end of
the movie, you know, so Jacob was was pretty great.
The kids were fine. They, they just like at Jurassic
Park, they just sort of, they did their jobs by being in
danger, so. I'd say they were pretty like

(30:17):
realistic, like like in that situation, what's like a
teenager gonna do? You know what I mean?
I. Don't know what it is about
Juliette Lewis, but I'm attracted to her like in
everything I see her and and I can't put my finger on it.
I don't know. She's amazing in Natural Born
Killers. Yes, even though I don't really
like Natural born killers all that much.

(30:37):
She's hot in that movie. So she's also in one of my
favorites with Brad Pitt called California, which is kind of a
on the road serial killer movie.So another one of those maybe
because she's associated with like these kind of movies too.
Yeah. She's always playing somebody a
little bit. Well, and and I guess in Natural

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Born Killer, she plays an actualpsychopath.
So that's pretty hot. Yeah.
I, I don't know. I didn't like Scotty at all.
I thought he was just like, likegood for nothing sort of deal.
Well, I guess like you said, they are kids and stuff, but I
thought it was super funny when they got into Mexico and and

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Seth was like, he's like, we didit, you little shit.
We're fucking in Mexico, you little piece of fucking shit.
That just reminds me of this oneline that I I love.
Where are you taking us? Mexico.
What's in Mexico? Mexicans.

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Mexicans, then later George or later Seth is like, we're
Mexicans. Isn't that when Richie wakes up
and he's like, hey, we're Mexicans?
That was so funny too. He was like, what happened?
Passed out. He.
Said something about your hand hurting and then you just hit

(32:03):
the ground like a sack of potatoes.
Head hit the toilet. Scared the shit out of me.
And he was like, you passed out.You said something about your
hand. Yeah, you're in on the toilet.
I was so worried about you. Scared the shit out of me.
I got to get your opinions on the Titty Twister because this

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place, I mean, looks like something out of, I don't know,
Mad Max. Come to Vegas, come to this
world, apparently. What are your thoughts on the
Titty Twister? Is it somewhere you would go?
Jill, what do you think? Would you go visit the Titty
Twister? Yeah, 100% because in the
beginning it looked really sleazy from the outside when you

(32:47):
got the guy out there like, you know, announcing what, what
kinds of pussy you are inside. We.
Got hairy pussy, bloody pussy. We got snapping pussy.
Then you get to see the inside and it's magnificent.
The ladies are classy, they're elegant.
We're going of the night. I love the performance with the
snake. My question was, is that the
same snake that Britney Spears danced with?

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His name was Banana because. I don't think so.
I don't know. You don't think so?
I don't think so. It could.
Be like a show kind of of snake,right?
So this was. I'm looking out in 96.
And she did that like in 1998 orsomething.
Maybe you're right. I thought it was much.
Easier. No, no, no, I'm a slave for you.
Came out when we were in high school, Kevin and I for sure.

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It had to be in the 2000s. Yeah, it came out in 2001.
So there really wasn't that muchtime between the two.
So I suppose I don't know how long those big ass snakes live,
although they had the same snakein the upstairs of shop therapy
for like over a decade so I don't know.
It'd be the same snake. It could be the same snake.

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It could. Be, but yeah, beautiful place on
the inside of the titty twister would frequent it probably.
What do you guys think? I think it's a vibe, Yeah, it's
a vibe. I I don't know if I'd go there
though. Back when I was drinking, maybe
I'd go there, but nowadays, definitely not.
Then again, you also get kicked out if you're not a trucker, and

(34:18):
I'm not a trucker, so you know. What if you have a license that
we don't know about? I I I don't have that license.
I I do. Not that was funny as hell, by
the way. I have a recreational vehicle.
If you look outside your door inyour parking lot, you'll see a
big recreational vehicle that's mine.
In order to drive down legally, you need a Class 2 driver's

(34:40):
license. You know what I love, like, the
little arc that happens here because, you know, the family
kind of buys into these killers a little bit.
Yeah. They kind of help them out at
times, even Richie. Like, there's a scene where
Richie is gonna get hit from behind or whatever, and Kate's

(35:00):
like, Richie Lookout. Richie Lookout.
Why do you care what happens to this guy?
It's kind of like they become a little family in a way.
Yeah. It's almost like this is a
terrifying adventure, but it's an adventure I want to get to.
Jill had mentioned it, the dance.
Because this dance by what is her?

(35:23):
I know it's Salma Hayek, but herstage name is Satanico
Pandemonium. So she does this amazing dance
with a snake, and I mean, she steals the the spotlight here
for sure. Right.
Anytime she's on screen during this movie, your eyes are locked
on her. Even when she turns into a scary

(35:45):
vampire. It's just an incredible
performance. She is amazingly gorgeous.
Yeah. Salma Hayek.
Goddess, she can turn me into a vampire anytime she wants.
It won't be a bad way, Tommy Spot, since you'll be my dog.
Your new name will be Spud, you know.

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May I say that I feel like maybeit helped inspire Queen Akasha
and Queen of the Damned. Like the movements and you know
what I mean? Like and they're both
technically vampires, so. I haven't seen Queen of the
Damned either, to be honest. I know.

(36:29):
Yeah. I don't know if you would like
it honestly, but I don't know. It's not great, but I love it.
Probably find out someday. We're going to cover it.
I just had seen an interview with Salma Hayek, and she said
she was deathly afraid of snakes.
Yeah. So for the scene, she was put
under trance to do the dance. So she's kind of under a spell

(36:55):
while she's putting you under her spell.
That's really cool, actually. It's very trancy.
It's got even the music, Blue Song going on underneath.
Yeah, the soundtrack to this movie is incredible, by the way.
I love all that shit. ZZ Top, Stevie Ray Vaughan, love

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it. I mean, the other thing about
this movie, like we talked aboutis they do have like a little
arc where they kind of come together here because they gotta
fight off all the vampires. I mean, technically Richie and
Seth haven't changed who they are, right?
I mean, even at the end, Seth iswho Seth is like he hasn't

(37:40):
really changed. But they kind of put together,
like I said, this family to go after and survive against these,
these vampires. And then they get a little help
along the way from sex machine. Sex Machine.
Pleased to meet you, Kate. Tom Savini Frost.

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Who is Fred Williamson? Fred Williamson.
Yeah. To me, like, as a little kid
especially, this was such a badass scene because they all
come together. They're all like, we're fighting
vampires. I love when Seth's, like, giving
a pep talk. He's like, I don't.
Want to hear anything about I don't believe in vampires
because I don't fucking believe in vampires, but I believe in my

(38:22):
own two eyes and what I saw is fucking vampires.
We know what these are. These are vampires.
These are vampires. Yeah.
What did you think of them all coming together here to fight
off the vampires? Jill, did you?
Did you like this scene? Finally, you get your vampire
action right. I did.
It was creative. I like the, you know, creative

(38:44):
ways they used to fight out the vampires.
Like Jacob when he uses his gun and like a stick or something it
makes the cross but he like. Actually.
Uses the cross to like reload the gun.
I thought that was really cool. Just makes me sad because I I
just want the vampires to win soI was just like damn these

(39:05):
vampires are dying. But other than that, very cool.
Oh, my goodness. Yeah.
Nathan, what's your thoughts? I mean, that's a lot of what I
loved about this, too. I, you know, the the creative
weaponry, that makeshift weaponry is great.
I mean, the holy water in the condoms is like holy water

(39:26):
balloons. That's hilarious and awesome.
The fact that the dad is bit this whole time and you know
that he's like a ticking time bomb, but you keep him alive
because. More numbers and I'll probably
turn to Vampire within the hour.Add some tension and then the
special effects are all so far over the top.

(39:48):
Yeah. And so silly and so B movie.
It's all of that is is just wonderful.
I love that stuff. I thought the effects were like,
perfect for this sort of movie. You know what I mean?
Oh yeah, for sure. It has like that cheesiness but
like some scary stuff too like when sex machine kind of

(40:10):
regenerates into this rodent like vampire as sketchy as hell.
No, I I was kind of shedding on.I wasn't trying to shed on it,
but like the vampires, you know,them being like the Buffy sort
of vampire. But I think that's what makes it
a unique I guess, and makes it what it is.

(40:32):
I think it would be super boringif they were like, you know,
like Twilight vampires or something.
Like the effects of those dying would be way less cool.
And to your point, these vampires seem very like ancient
and like almost monster like tooright 'cause I mean, we do get
the shot at the end of this likeset on an ancient Aztec like

(40:59):
pyramid sort of deal. I'm not sure what it was.
But yeah, I mean, if if they were just like Twilight
vampires, this wouldn't have. This so boring.
Yeah. You can't have that type of
vampire melt into green paste. Just not.
It's not going to work as well as the monsters melting into

(41:21):
green paste and then lighting onfire.
And Jesus, it's all so over the top.
And it's just constant as well. Yeah, it keeps going and going
and going. That's what I thought like
originally in my head, 'cause I hadn't seen this movie in a
while, that it was just like thelast 1520 minutes.
But it's a. Long time.

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It's like a full 45 minutes of just fighting vampires and
watching vampires melt and. Do you know who did the effects?
Yes, and he's in the movie. Tom Savini.
Tom Savini. No, it's wow.
Oh, OK. Greg Nectaro.
What? Where is he in the movie?
He is with Tom Savini in the barbefore they all turn vampire.

(42:08):
He looks like fun boy. He looks exactly like fun boy
from the Crow. The Crow?
I thought it was fun boy, right?I was like, fun boy.
The fuck? What the fuck are you supposed
to be, man? Well, they're bro Jesus.
Christ walked into a bar and Danny Trejo in the vampire

(42:31):
makeup. It was amazing.
By the way, I just thought that Danny Trejo.
I love Danny Trejo so much. Like he just, every time I see
him, I'm like, he just looks like with the character he's
gonna play. And it's the same character
every movie that he does. But you know, happy to be here.
He's like. Yeah, he's a Robert Rodriguez

(42:55):
and Quentin Tarantino regular, right?
Because he just did desperado, right?
Yeah. Yeah, it was a couple of years
before this 193. Yeah. 93.
Yeah. Salma Hayek was also in
Desperado. He likes casting Salma Hayek.
She had a much bigger role in Desperado, of course, but this

(43:15):
was much more an iconic role. I don't know.
I really love Desperado. Desperado might be my favorite
Robert Rodriguez movie. I love Desperado too, but I'll
tell you what, when I saw her inthis movie, that VHS got a lot
of rewinding. I was like God, goodness, sticky
and everything. She gets naked and desperado

(43:38):
though, does she? Yeah, she has a whole sex scene
with the movies out and everything.
It's the dark I might have to cover.
Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I get it.
I get it. Different vibes.
I was like, I think, I think I like Spanish women.
I'm not sure. Originally her role was going to
go to Madonna. I read.
I don't know Madonna. She can do the sexy thing.

(44:00):
She can do dark too. But I guess I don't know, I
think Salma Hayek would. It just works better for this.
I hate to say it, but Madonna being white as hell I don't
think would work for this particular.
Is that what I'm saying? Yep, I'm not saying anything but
you know, but I mean, they're inMexico, you know, so you know,

(44:23):
she had a similar kind of role too in in Dick Tracy as well
with the like the dancing and everything.
And so I don't know, I feel likethat would have came off very
same thing sort of deal, Dick Tracy.
So got to see it. I know.
I do want to ask. I haven't seen this episode.

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Nathan's making a list. I know, right?
What's your thoughts on the ending?
Because at the end we get Carlos, who they were waiting
for Cheech marriage shows up, which is Cheech.
And then what I love is he's like, hey, like what happened in
there? What the fuck was going on in

(45:05):
there? Nah, he's, he's great.
I mean, it's just like it, it almost feels down to earth that
it would end like that. It's just like it ended because
daytime came and you know, and they were able to get the the
door open with the daytime. And then Cheech Marin was just

(45:33):
kind of an asshole. Carlos there, You know?
What the fuck happened? Yeah.
I mean, I love to how, like, thewhole place is basically on
fire. They actually, in real life set
the building or the facade on fire for real by mistake.
And I heard this story as well. They had to put it out.
So like when you look at the building and it's all charred

(45:56):
like that, that legit happened. Yeah, Oh my God.
Here's the thing. They filmed the explosion scene
first. Yeah, and they lit on fire by
accident and they had to rebuildthe whole set because the
special effects guy put in way more explosives than he should
have. It wasn't supposed to light on

(46:16):
fire at all. So they they filmed that scene
out of order from what they wereoriginally intending on filming
it at the end where it's all charred.
Rookie mistake. It's cool, though, because like,
you get that kind of big fire implosion and then, like you
said, back to reality. I mean, and again, Seth doesn't
really change. He's doing what he's going to

(46:38):
do, right? No, Jill, did you think that
this was going to be like kind of a happy ending where Kate was
going to go with Seth and everything?
I didn't really expect a happy ending, so no, it wasn't like,
surprised. Were you surprised who made it
out alive? Not really.

(47:00):
Go to Nathan. Yeah, I don't have anything
exciting to say. I mean, this ending is extremely
bleak, I will say that much. Did you just pick this place out
of a hat? My brother is dead.
That girl's entire fucking family is dead.
Poor Kate's whole family is deadnow.
And yeah, this movie, you figureit out pretty quickly that this,

(47:21):
this movie has no moral compass.Nobody changes, nobody learns
any lessons. This movie is about doing crime
and then fighting vampires, and there's nothing to be learned.
That's. It and that's.
What's so great about it? To me, People who don't deserve
it do die. People who do deserve it don't

(47:42):
die. Although there is some poetic
justice in Richie being killed by a woman.
But you know, that's true. You know, I thought.
But other than that, this movie has no real justice.
Like I like this descending because I think this is like I
know it's a movie in a in a crazy movie at that, but it's a
realistic ending. Like if if they had a happy

(48:03):
ending where Kate kisses Seth and they're like like happy go
lucky and we're going to be whatever now, like it would be
weird. It would be weird.
It doesn't make any sense. Seth is the reason her dad and
her and her brother died. She wanted to go with him for a
minute because she didn't know what else to do and he might be
a bastard. Maybe a bastard, but I'm not a

(48:24):
fucking bastard. But I'm not a fucking bastard.
It's cool because I had seen this pointed out that Scott is
wearing a Assault Precinct 13 shirt and this has a very kind
of Assault on Precinct 13 feel to it.
Because it does. Yeah.

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The good guys and the bad guys have to come together to thwart
off the evil. You know what?
I have one thing, and I forgot to mention this.
Did you see who played a freaking cameo in this, like as
his role? Cheech Marin Three times.
Not Cheech. John Saxon.
That the Bureau, the Rangers andthe police force are taking this

(49:06):
manhunt personally. I would say that's a very safe
assumption. You know the context, right?
Yeah. We didn't talk about that news
report. That news report was silly, like
putting up the, like, the statistics on how many people
have died. And then all of a sudden, John
Saxon's there like, yeah, we'll get him within 48 hours.

(49:27):
You know, he's always playing a Lieutenant.
Always. Yeah.
What? He's always playing the lead
cop. Yeah.
Oh my God, I love it. I wish he would have said Nancy
get back to bed. Sex Machine does the gets bitten
and doesn't tell anybody trope Yeah.
Gotta have one. Gotta have somebody do that, you

(49:49):
know? I gotta ask, Joe was saying.
When he did finally transform itwas just hilarious, like.
Yeah. And then his hand goes and he's
like, actually, that was such a cool kill scene, too, where he
comes up from behind Frost and all you saw were his gnarly
fingers. That was cool.
Yeah. That was good.
Yeah. I got to ask you both.

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And I also want to pose this question to our audience.
If you were in this situation, you're at the Titty Twister and
vampires are everywhere and you get bit, what would you do?
Would you be telling other people, or would you keep that
to yourself? Keeping that shit to myself.
Of course you are. I am.
You're reading the book. I hate it to yourself.

(50:30):
If I tell people that I've been bitten, they're going to kill
me. I don't want that.
But you should. Die.
I want to live. I'm joining the other side.
I have no choice. But you know, we're all dead.
Nathan can kill us. So.
God damn it, every time. I won't even have a choice.

(50:53):
Next thing I know, Nathan's fangs are buried into me is
gnarly little hands. You guys can be together and
terrorize everybody else. Listen, the three of us could be
like Interview with the Vampire.Am I the little?
Are. You guys, the gay couple and I'm

(51:15):
your adopted daughter. I haven't seen this movie.
I had no idea. That that's actually.
Dynamic. They put up the picture.
I guess I'll put up the picture now.
I don't know how to call. I've never seen the movie.
I call Tom Cruise. I I Isn't Brad Pitt an asshole?

(51:38):
That's what I you're Brad Pitt. Damn it.
But you're hot though you. Get the long hair.
At least I'm not a Scientologist, I guess.
At least. Yeah.
And Jill's just a little bit older.
Kirsten Dunst. She's a little bit older, I
guess. I mean she's like 50 now, so
she's. Such a brat in that movie.

(52:00):
But she's a vampire. She's a little vampire.
I guess, I guess, I guess what were we talking about before
that? Would you, would you tell
people? Yeah, a bit.
Would you tell people you were abit self?
But then you would still come back from really, you'd have to
stake yourself. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Like I would stake myself because I have no will to live.

(52:21):
What would you do, Kevin? I'd go out like Jake up here,
like I just. Take all them.
Vampires. I'd take all them on, you know,
and be like, all right. You need a strong will though,
in order to like overcome the urge.
You know what I mean? The.
Urge to bite. Did Jacob?
Yeah. Jacob didn't really overcome the
urge at all though, did he? When I think about it, didn't he

(52:42):
just all of a sudden turn? Yeah, he just turned.
Yeah. That was a cool scene though too
where the vampires backed off ofthem.
Yeah, that was cool because he turned.
But that reminds me, why did Frost and the band just
spontaneously combust? Because they weren't going to

(53:03):
let them get killed by the otherpeople.
So they're like, peace out. We kill ourselves.
That's what I would choose it. Was really funny.
That was a great scene. Now let's kill that fucking
band. Fuck you, everybody.
Goodnight Cinema. Fuck you, everybody.
Goodnight explodes. Thank you, Titty Twister.

(53:29):
You've been too good to us. Damn, Encore.
They can't. They're in pieces.
Literally. The torso guitar I I still I
can't get over the torso guitar.Oh yeah.
Oh good. Scotty played a real nice
vintage guitar in that hotel there.

(53:53):
Silver tone. I believe that was Robert
Rodriguez's actual guitar. Dang that makes sense because I
looked it up they only made those guitars from like 58 to 62
or something like that. It's a real nice little vintage
piece there. It looked beautiful.
The behind the scenes stuff showed Rod Robert Rodriguez like
playing a guitar 95% of the timeso I just assumed.

(54:17):
I don't know if it's right. I mean, maybe, probably, yeah.
I just thought that scene was really funny because, again,
like, that's what a shitty little teenager would be doing.
And the door is being knocked onand he's just like not even
paying attention or listening. And then because he's on the
guitar with the amp and the headphones.

(54:38):
Exactly. And the dad makes a comment
like, yeah, hope you're having agood time or like, whatever.
I hope none of this is disturbing you.
Such a dad comment. Yeah, I think it's time for
quote or kill. We're gonna give you our
favorite quote in the movie or our favorite kill in the movie,
or both. My favorite quote is from Seth.

(54:59):
At the end he goes. Why, out of all of the God
forsaken shit holes in Mexico dowe have to meet here?
One place is just as good as another.
One place is just as good as another.
Like I, I just love the ending. Like matter of fact, he's like,
you never been here. He's like, no, no, drove by a

(55:21):
few times, you know? Thought about it.
I actually have another favoritequote because I thought this was
too good, where Scott was like, all you got to do is put two
sticks together and you got to cross.
Cross. Yeah.
He's right. Peter Cushing does that all the
time. OK, I'll buy that.
OK, I'll buy that. OK.

(55:42):
You know, they don't, they don'tknow anything about vampires.
They're just learning from the movies, you know, And in
fairness, that's what we all would do.
Oh, yeah, yeah. I would follow the classic rules
to AT until they failed me. Then I'd be like, maybe we
should figure something else outor I'd be dead.

(56:02):
The more likely scenario it'd beI, I was dead, honest.
And kill everybody else because you're a.
Vampire. Yeah.
Take them with you, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
There you go. My favorite kill is Sex Machines
because it's like a huge long scene where he gets the whip
around his head, the head comes off, the head gets stabbed, then
he regenerates into that rodent like vampire monster.

(56:26):
It's just, it's crazy. I love the effects and
everything that goes with it. And I love kind of the call back
to him always using the whip andthen he gets the whip used on
him. So I love when stuff like that
happens. That's Chekhov's whip, right?
Just like, check off the penis gun earlier, you know, got to

(56:47):
use the penis gun. Jill, how about you?
I have the same favorite kill. I just was so gagged by Tom
Savini as a sex machine. His entire role.
He looks so goofy in like the special effects but it's like
it's just his eyes. Like you can't mistake Tom
Savini's eyes and then with likeall this like prosthetics and

(57:08):
stuff on it just cracks me up like I love them.
My favorite quote, what is the banter between Seth and Jacob
when they're talking about like Jacob being with his son and
being like? How's that happen?
You don't look Japanese. Neither does he.
He looks Chinese. Oh well, excuse me all the hell.

(57:31):
Oh, Oh well, excuse me all the hell I.
This is a scene where I have a gun on you.
I don't. I don't care about that.
I thought it was really funny because it reminded me so much
of Negan from The Walking Dead. Like he kind of says the same
sort of thing. Well.

(57:52):
Pardon me young man, excuse the shit out of my God damn French,
but did you just threaten me? But also it really reminded me
of banter you would hear in PulpFiction, and I really like the
Pulp Fiction kind of elements ofthe movie.
That really worked for me. What about you, Nathan?
Quote or kill. My favorite quote is all of the

(58:15):
dialogue in the movie, because it's the whole, it's also the
whole thing. No, it's just so perfect.
Actually, it's around the time of Kevin's first quote where
Cheech Mare and Carlos is. They're talking about having
picked this place, and Carlos goes, what were they, psychos?

(58:35):
What? Were they psychos or?
They look like psychos. Is that what they look like?
They were vampires. Psychos do not explode when
sunlight hits them. I don't give a fuck how crazy
they are. I don't care how crazy they are.
I thought that was pretty great.Not to cheat and pick two
quotes, but the whole speech he had where don't tell me you

(58:58):
don't believe in vampires because I don't believe in
vampires, but I don't believe what I just saw and those were
vampires. All of that is is great.
I love that. My favorite kill is Richie first
getting killed, not the second time Richie is killed.

(59:25):
Just because it's the one that sets everything off.
It's the one where you're going,wait, what?
Because Salma Hayek's face just turns into this reptile like
vampire face and like, there wasno sign whatsoever of there
being anything supernatural in this movie at all up until that

(59:48):
one special effect. I don't know, I just remember as
a younger teenager blown away bythat.
Like holy shit. Especially since I saw it on TV
too. I just kind of was like, oh, I
see Tarantino here. Was not expect expecting that.
Also the poetic justice of the guy who was a sex offender being

(01:00:10):
killed by a woman who just took her stuck her foot in his mouth.
I like that too. That's nice.
I wish he got it worse though. Well he did die twice so it
could have been worse. He could have survived and not
told anybody that he was bit. Like he would do.
Like I would do. Yeah.

(01:00:31):
You're going to kill me if I tell you that I'm big, you know?
Yeah, it's true. It's time for our final rating.
We're going to rate this movie from one to five stars. 5 is
Selma Hayek stance, 1 is snapping pussy.
We. Got snapping pussy.
I don't know what snapping pussyis, but it sounds like teeth and

(01:00:53):
that movie freaks me out. I haven't seen that movie
either. Jesus Christ.
Another one, Dad. I've heard it's pretty good.
Nightmares. Nightmares.
I'm giving from dusk till dawn. Oh man, I'm like a four-star
slut for our show. Yeah, give me another four
stars. I think this is in the upper
echelon of horror movies, period.

(01:01:16):
I do love the twist. Is this the first horror movie
that subverted expectations a little bit?
It's got to be one of the first at least.
I mean, Psycho obviously is likethe the gold standard, but it's
one of the only movies that is like this, to be honest with
you, I where it just turns into an entirely different movie at

(01:01:38):
the end, not even at the end halfway through.
You can name other movies with twists, but it's it's just it's
not going to be like this one. Yeah, for sure, because like
Scream would come out also this year and that was a different
twist as well. So it's this is very original.
I love the atmosphere. You know, the titty twister for

(01:01:59):
like the second-half in the movie really being in was great.
You know, George Clooney deserves a lot of praise for
this movie. He was really, really good in
this movie. I know they get shit on a lot,
but I thought his acting was phenomenal in this, along with
the rest of the cast because like, Harvey Keitel is great,
you know, And even Quentin Tarantino, he plays his role

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perfectly because he is a like, scummy guy you love to hate.
Yeah. Four stars.
I think. Like, this is a movie I would
rewatch and recommend to people.It's not my ultimate favorite,
but I think it's definitely worth the watch.
Quentin Tarantino wise, this is probably one of my favorite
Quentin Tarantino movies are written by him at least as well,

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right? But yeah, that's it for me.
How about you, Jill? No pressure.
I liked the acting. I thought George Clooney was
really good. I talked about Tom Savini.
I thought he was hilarious. I thought the twist was cool.
I thought the special effects were probably the highlight of
this. Besides, you know, the vampire,

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the women vampires at the Clerb.But not really my cup of tea.
I was waiting for that tonal shift.
I was kind of taken aback. I was like, am I watching the
right movie? Where are the vampires?
What is this like action kind ofmovie?
So I think that kind of maybe like ruined my watch just with

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those expectations, but I feel like I would feel differently if
I gave this the time and I went back to it to watch it and
appreciate it for what it is. So I am going to give From Dusk
Till Dawn 2 1/2 stars. It's not a bad movie by any
means, it's just not really up my kind of alley of the kind of

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subgenre I would go for. What do you rate it, Nathan?
I am also on four stars actually.
I I love everything about this movie.
It's not really my favorite Tarantino or my favorite Robert
Rodriguez, but it's it's very unique and I love how unique it
is. I love the way it's written.

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And I've I've raved about the dialogue enough already.
What you said, Kevin, about George Clooney.
I didn't know people shit on George Clooney.
I guess I get it. He does play a similar character
in every movie, and even in thisone, he's playing a similar
character to what he always plays, but doing horrible shit.

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His mannerisms are sort of the same, but it's always
charismatic. It always works for me.
I don't know. But yeah, four stars.
I, I like this one a lot. It's cool, like doing these sort
of movies. I love finding out like where
we're similar, the three of us, and where we kind of differ
because Nathan and Jill, you both are very similar in a lot

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of like what you like. And this is kind of the diverge
and this is more where me and Nathan are more similar.
Yeah. Jill, do you like other
Tarantino movies or is he just not like your guy?
No, I do, I do. It's just, I think this movie, I
was, I just don't know what I was expecting.
I just expected more vampires. No, I, I got you.

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I was just wondering if like thewhole crime thriller thing is
just not your thing at all. I can deal with it, but it's not
my favorite thing out of everything.
It's just this one took like a long time for me to get there.
And so I was like, OK, all this dialogue normally would be like
my favorite part about the movie, but because I want

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vampires, this is taking away from the vampires.
So yeah. I get what you're saying.
OK. Yeah, for sure.
And like you, it's cool. Like you said, you have a very
unique perspective on this movie, having seen the sequels
first and then, yeah, and then seeing the movie.
So I don't know. It's cool, though.
I like that that you gave a different perspective than

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Nathan and me, who like went into this completely blind and
and had different ones. Actually, the marketing for this
movie told you that it was a vampire movie.
I just happened to not see any of the marketing when I had when
I watched the movie, which it itreminds me of the the problem
everybody had with Abigail, which I haven't seen that

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either. But I but you know, I have the
same feeling like why did you tell me that?
I didn't? I didn't need to know that.
And from what I understand, the whole setup of the movie is sort
of like this in that it takes a very long time for you to get to
her as a vampire and that it feels like it was set up to be A
twist, something you weren't expecting.

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Even in the the synopsis on the streamers, it it tells you it's
a vampire movie. It's like don't do that.
I don't know. I don't like that.
I think the difference though isin saturation versus over
saturation. And in the mid 90s you didn't
have that over saturation. So like, there was less chance

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of being able to see that twist of, you know, at least what we
were exposed to because obviously, like, movie fans and
stuff would have seen Ebert's and different critics and things
like that. But even in Ebert's review, he's
telling you that it's going to be a vampire movie at the end of
it. Before we end the episode, we're
going to let you know what we'vebeen up to.
What have we been watching, reading, listening to or gaming?

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I'm continuing my John Carpenterwatch through, trying to get
through all of his movies. So I watched 3 new John
Carpenter movies I hadn't seen before.
The first one was Someone's Watching Me, which was ATV film
he had done in 1978 right beforeHalloween.

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This one was OK. I think there's a lot of like
Halloween kind of similarities and especially how he filmed
certain scenes. So it is cool to see this movie.
It's a very like timepiece movie.
I would say I give it three stars on my letterbox.
I think it's a decent watch, butit's not it's not overly horror.

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So it's it's kind of in between and it's ATV movie.
So there's a little bit of a a disconnect there.
I also watch Body Bags, which was really fun and it's an
anthology type of movie. There is one of the stories in
it is called The Gas Station andit's so freaking good.

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It's John Carpenter at his best.There's even references to it
taking place in Haddonfield, which I love, and it makes me
like interested in seeing like ahad and feel show.
Like, 'cause they've been talking about the Halloween TV
series for a while now. And I think if you did stories
like this, it'd be so good. But you need Carpenter because

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this is Carpenter. This is what he does.
And he he also stars in this onetoo, as the storyteller.
It has Mark Hamill in it. It has Wes Craven in it.
It's really interesting. Are all the stories directed by
John Carpenter? No, right.
O2 R And the last one is directed by Toby Hooper.

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Oh, OK. So another great.
So another great. Yeah.
So you have Carpenter Hooper. Wes Craven does a cameo in it in
one of the stories. So it's it's really good.
I gave it 3 1/2 stars. I highly recommend it.
And last but not least was Christine, which, holy cow, I
love this movie. This is like one of my top

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Carpenter Movies Now. It's so, really so good.
Yeah, it's so good. The atmosphere is amazing.
It has all the Carpenter stuff Ilove.
The music is so good. He makes a car scary like he
makes it like a Michael. Myers I've never seen not
erotic. Nathan Scary.

(01:10:02):
Hold on. I.
Read the book. That car is erotic.
It is a little erotic in the book Nathan.
No. Nathan I'm not wrong, am I?
Kevin No. There's a great scene where
there's a sexy scene with the car where he goes show me and he
wants to see it. No, it's good.
To get me off of this podcast. I'm into the car fucking.

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I'm not the one who brought up the car fucking this time.
You know, I gave this movie 4 1/2 stars on my letterbox.
I highly recommend it. Yeah, it's, it's so good.
It really is. I might want to cover it on the
show at some point because it was really cool.
That's it for me. How about you, Jill?
I just wanted to say real quick that both of the movies you just

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talked about, Christine and potty bags, are on my list.
I haven't seen either, so it's kind of pushing.
Watch them, Watch them. Yeah, I they're.
So good, they're so good. Like I think if you like horror,
I mean, this is this is the bestof the best stuff like this.
The way John Carpenter does his horror like this is second to
none because, I don't know, he he makes this world in this

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atmosphere and puts you in it. And how many directors can do
it? Like Steven Spielberg, We talked
about Jurassic Park. He does it.
Yeah, John Carpenter does it with this kind of horror.
Oh yeah, well I just got back from Canada.
I was up there for almost 2 weeks.
While I was up there, I met up with Mike from it's latest
podcast. We went to our friend's house,

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Willow and Trevor, Willow sometimes on it's Late's podcast
with us, but she had purchased a4K of the craft and we watched
it and it was excellent in 4K. It looked so good.
So if you're a fan of that movie. 4K and it's the craft, so

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it. Banger.
Looking good. It's just the cherry on top.
Yeah, exactly. It is still the crack.
Yeah, I would have watched it onlike 280P on a VHS.
I don't care. The Craft is one of my favorite
movies ever. I think this is the third time
I've watched it this year and itwas cool to watch it with some

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of my friends and we were just sitting around drinking.
It was a good time. And while I was up there I went
to Cineplex to see 28 Years Later.
Have any of you seen it yet? No, OK, I still need to see 28
weeks later. So OK oh, which I also rewatched
the night before I went to go see 20 years later.

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I don't know, I feel like every time I talk about 28 days, 28
weeks later, it's always high inmy memory.
And then I go rewatch it and I'mlike, oh, it's it didn't really
age really well. Like kind of looks bad.
There's better like looking zombie movies out there at
least. But the tone is always so like
grungy and British and I love that. 28 years later is

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probably, this is a hot take possibly, but probably my
favorite of really the three. Yeah, so far.
I was really excited to go see it.
The trailers looked amazing and it did not disappoint.
Like the tone is still kind of holds true to the roots of
having that like grungy sort of movie.

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And even some of the shots are are the same.
But it's much more polished. And I don't think it's polished
in a way that fans of the franchise would feel
disappointed. I think it's just kind of like
evolved and had so much more depth to it, with character
arcs, with the plot, with themes.

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It was very theme heavy. It was actually quite deep
compared to the other movies. And some of the cinematography
is amazing. So yeah, I highly recommend
going to see it in theaters. I think it's a perfect movie to
go see this summer. It's worth the hype in my
opinion. I was wondering how they were
they're going to do the actual filming because like even though

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the handheld cameras now like they can do 4K, you know, it's
not like back when the digital handheld cameras were all all
looked like 28 days later. So it's, I don't know, it's
interesting. Did they do anything to sort of
mud it, muck it up at all? Like to make it less clean than

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a a modern movie. Yeah, I would say the shots kind
of hold true. Like they're very quick.
Like it's not like other zombie movies where you get to see the
zombies in shots for a long time.
It's very like jerky still and you don't get like quite like
full picture of the effects, butyou can tell they're good.

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But it's, I think it still maintains the edge, right?
It has some brutal stuff in it. I don't know.
It succeeded and surpassed my expectations.
I really liked it. I have.
To check it out I have to check out 28 weeks later first though.
So yeah, you know, not so good, but.
Everybody says 28 weeks later isnot not great. 28 Days later I I

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think is amazing but I've sort of avoided weeks because of the
reception it got. Yeah.
But I feel like in order to see years I got to see weeks first
so. Yeah, no, I think also they're
important movies for what they've done in like the kind of
zombie scope of horror. Like they definitely inspired

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The Walking Dead, which is one of my favorite TV shows.
And I feel like 28 years later had a couple of shots, I won't
spoil them, that were kind of like maybe nods to certain
scenes in The Walking Dead. So it's like a key going and
like giving back and forth and Idon't know, I love that.
But what have you been up to, Nathan?

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I watched Mickey 17 hit, I thinkHulu, which is the latest from
Bong Joon Ho is first since BestPicture Oscar winner for
Parasite and it is all right. It is probably along with Okja,
my least favorite Bong Juno film, but it's still it's pretty

(01:16:21):
good. I felt a little let down that
like, the trailer gave you this movie about clones and I was
thinking he was going to go intolike all this ethics about
cloning and stuff. And then it ended up being about
colonialism and environmentalism, which are are
topics he's handled before in movies that I really like.

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But I was hoping for more exploration of the clone stuff,
and I thought Mickey was gonna die more and things like that
because, I mean, that's the concept that was given in the.
Trailer yeah, we we covered it and I remember.
That being a thing, it wasn't that.
And you know, he's covering topics he's covered before, but

(01:17:08):
he's covered them before better.You know, it's not a bad movie.
I enjoyed it. I think I gave it three stars on
my letterbox. Robert Pattinson is great.
He's funny. A lot of people I guess didn't
like him and but I disagree. Mark Ruffalo I thought was
great. A lot of people didn't like him
either. And Toni Collette I thought was

(01:17:28):
great. So yeah, it's still a good
movie. It just wasn't.
It's no Parasite, it's no memories of murder, but it's,
you know, it's good then. Oh yes, it slays covered
multiple maniacs. One of the first John Waters
movies and that inspired me to go back and watch a John Waters

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classic. I we watched Female Trouble
which is a movie about a 16 yearold girl named Don Davenport.
She's played by Divine, who is a30 year old £300 drag queen.
She runs away from home, has a kid with a really horrible man,

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also played by Divine. Yes.
And then things just, they just,they get weird.
And it is my favorite of yeah, believe it or not, they get a
little strange. It is my favorite of the old
John Waters movies. It's one I can actually watch

(01:18:41):
over and over again because it'sa lot more tame than some of the
others. But it's it's still pretty gross
and fucked up. There's some like close-ups of
diseased looking penises and stuff, but unlike pink flamingos
you never see up anybody's rectum so.

(01:19:01):
Oh. Yeah.
That's cool, yeah. John Waters has a knack for
writing the best dialogue ever for comedy.
What My favorite particular favorite line from this one is I
wouldn't suck your lousy Dick ifI was suffocating and there was
oxygen in your balls. Beautiful poetry.

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It's it, it is, it is just poetry.
And when Mick Stole throws a bowl of spaghetti at the wall, I
cry laughing every time. Especially when Divine comes up
and starts beating her with a chair afterwards.
It's great. If you have a chance to watch
Female Trouble, I act, I recommend it.
And like, I don't necessarily recommend some of his other work

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to everybody, but yeah, no, Female Trouble's great.
My sister's children were visiting, so I watched Lilo and
Stitch. Yeah, these are right
back-to-back on my letterbox here.
Oh my message name in Trouble. Lilo and Stitch.
I was like, your letterbox is quite the variety.

(01:20:08):
This was my first time watching Lilo and Stitch actually.
I've never seen it before. And you watched the remake or
not the the live? Action.
Oh, OK, sorry I'm not. Going to watch the I sort of
refuse to watch any of the live action remakes, to be honest
with you. I haven't seen any of them.
OK, I I don't see any reason forthem to exist.

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Yeah. You know, Lilo and Stitches.
It's a fun little movie. It's not my favorite Disney's
ever put out. Like, I don't think this is as
good as Beauty and the Beast or Aladdin, but it's fun.
It's cute. Stitch is a complete asshole.
Sort of wasn't expecting that. One of my daughter's favorites.
Yeah. No, I I yeah, I get that.

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Your favorite is always the one that came out when you were the
right age for it, I think. Which is why I hold Beauty and
the Beast, Aladdin and The Lion King in such high regard.
You. Know.
They're all good though, at the end of the day.
Pretty well. And Hercules.
Hercules, Hercules, I was a little, I was not the right age

(01:21:14):
anymore at that point, so. That's so good.
I don't look at it the same way as I do those other 3.
But Danny Demito. I I know it's still good.
I'm not, I'm not saying it's not.
It's still good. They're all good.
Yeah, they're all good. But there's some that you, the
ones at the right age, you cherish them.

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That's Hercules came out. I was in high school already, I
believe, although The Emperor's New Groove is 1.
I hold in in high regard and that also came out when I was
high school, so I don't know. I love these.
Yeah, I guess it's hard not to love that movie.
Yeah, that's that's pretty much it, other than I'm still playing
Mario Kart. Oh, same.
I'm gonna play after this, so wrap it up.

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I'm just kidding. Probably.
Well, that does it. Kevin's phone battery.
I don't know. Oh, yeah.
If you want to check out any of our letterbox profiles and see
what we're watching, we're gonnahave links down in the
description for you. See what vile Nathan's rating?
Four stars. I rated female trouble five

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stars. Oh yeah, OK, very good.
That does it for our review on From Dusk Till Dawn.
We'll be back with another episode and we're going to be
reviewing Jill's Pick, Silent Hill.
But until then, back to the padded room with you.
Wait, Nathan, there's a vampire behind you?

(01:22:39):
Oh no. So bad news, sort of.

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Not really bad news, just awkward news.
I just looked up.