Godzilla Minus One (2023): Straitjacket Talk

Is Godzilla Minus One from 2023 more than just a Monster Movie? Kevin, Nathan, and Gill discuss the deeper themes behind the horrors of Godzilla- the post-war trauma and how destruction affects a society that has already been defeated. The ultimate reminder of how important it is to live...

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Episode Transcript

(00:01):
I could have went head to head with Godzilla.
Your head would have been taken right off.

(00:24):
Hey everyone, welcome to Straitjacket Talk where it's two
guys, a girl, and a horror show.My name is Kevin and I'm joined
by a guy who has survived a Godzilla attack.
It's Nathan. I got out by the skin of my
teeth. You're here.
Just barely. Yeah, he almost stomped on me.
Dang, he's big. Very big.
I'm also joined by a girl who goes nuclear when she's MAD.

(00:47):
Also, it's Jill. Oh.
My God, I don't want people to know that about me, Kevin.
Sorry. I'm about to lose it, dude.
Watch yourself. The nuclear breath.
Just starts a mushroom cloud. My heat ray.
I'm scared. Should be We watched Godzilla -1

(01:07):
from 2023. It was written and directed by
Takahashi Yamazaki. That sounds about right.
All right, good. We'll make you do it again.
Just a word of warning, I'm going to struggle with some of
these names in the movie, so I might resort to like this guy,

(01:28):
this lady, you know? Japanese names are spelled
phonetically, so if it sounds seems like it should be right,
it probably is. Good to know Godzilla -1 had a
budget of $15 million. Do you know how much it made at
the box office? I know it did well.
Actually it did really well for a foreign film.
I'm going to go 50 million. I'm going to say 100 million.

(01:53):
Jill's the closest. It made $116 million.
Damn, damn. That's really good.
Yeah, and I mean what they were able to do with 15,000,000.
I know we'll get into it, but that seems pretty cool.
Yeah, yeah. Incredible.
You know, some, some movies thathave $15 million budget, You're

(02:13):
like, where'd this money go to? Well, I mean, in America that's
enough for one actor. So, you know, that's true.
As long as it's not Brad Pitt, then it's not enough.
You know, like. Can't afford them.
The IMDb rating is at a 7.7 out of 10 and currently the

(02:33):
thermometer sits at a 99%. This is definitely certified
fresh and probably, I believe, the highest rated movie we've
ever done an episode for, right?Not damn.
Yeah, I believe so. I mean, the only way to get
higher than that is 100 and we haven't, we haven't.
Had one of those, so not yet. But what did we think of this

(02:56):
movie? Before we go any further, if you
could please hit the like and subscribe buttons and also hit
the notification bell because when we have a new video, you'll
be the first to know. Isn't that right, Nathan?
Yes, it's a privilege. This was Jill's pick for an
episode. So Jill, why did you choose
Godzilla -1 for us to review? I remember seeing this in the

(03:17):
theater, I think it was December2023 when it was released in the
US It was kind of, I don't know,kind of a life changing movie.
I thought it was very powerful. I cried.
I was just like, so into it and it's by far my favorite Godzilla
movie. Not all Godzilla movies are

(03:39):
created equal, but what I especially like about this movie
is that it is a Japanese story and it is told by Japanese film
makers. I'll probably talk more about
that later, but I just think it was really well done and I
thought we should talk about it.And also, Kevin has never seen a

(04:01):
Godzilla movie before this, so Ithought this is the best one.
It's my personal favorite. It's a good one to watch for
your first Godzilla movie. Let me tell you something,
you're not wrong because like now I'm hooked and want to go
and watch like all the Godzilla movies.
Dang. To be clear, not all of them are

(04:22):
as good as this one. Pinnacle.
No, I realize, I realize that, you know, but I think this is
like kind of a cool maybe gateway Godzilla movie to get
into because all I've heard is like, this is one of the better
ones. And if you haven't seen a
Godzilla movie, this is the one to watch.

(04:43):
I think it's so cool you saw this in the theater because I
think that would be a great experience.
It. Was awesome.
Yeah, that's how monster movies are meant to be seen, are they
not? Yeah, I want to see this in
IMAX, you know. Oh.
My God. I don't get to see anything in
IMAX though. I don't have an IMAX near me at
all. I think they just did like a

(05:04):
showing of Shin Godzilla, which was the last Japanese Godzilla
movie made before Godzilla -1 yeah, came out in 2016.
So I think they've been showing that in theater recently.
So hopefully he'll show this oneagain so you guys can go see it.
Yeah, that would be that would be an awesome experience for

(05:25):
sure. I had wanted to see this one for
a long time because I had heard so many great things about it.
I don't think it disappointed atall.
Like I, you know, I mean, everyone kind of knows Godzilla,
right? The creature itself.
But I think what's really great about this movie, kind of like
Sinners is the story that's going on.
You know, it's just a good movie.

(05:47):
I think like horror wise, yeah, obviously there's moments of
terror with, with the monster and things like that.
But I think like the story itself is really good and
captivating and and has you likepulled in watching it for the
first time? I was like, man, this movie
looks really, really, really good.
I couldn't get over how it looked.
And then when I looked up the budget for this episode, I'm

(06:10):
like, no way, this is $15 million, no way.
So it, it blew my mind. I'm I'm really happy that you
picked it because I had a reallygood time watching it.
I think my only like regret is not watching in a theater
because I think that would have just been so much cooler of an
experience. This seemed like it went on
Netflix pretty quickly, did it not?

(06:32):
Or? No, no, no.
It took a while. OK, It's on Netflix now.
Yeah, it took. They took well over a year to
put it on streaming of any sort is like it was like a year and a
half where if you hadn't seen itin theaters you were out of
luck. Nathan, you've seen Godzilla -1
before. Yeah, this is my second time

(06:52):
seeing it. I saw it around the time it went
on Netflix last year. You know, I had heard so much
about it, and for the longest time, like I said, it was just
not available to watch at all. No physical, no streaming,
nothing. If you missed it in the
theaters, you were out of luck for, like I said, a year and a
half. This is probably my favorite

(07:13):
Godzilla movie as well. Actually I was a big fan of
Godzilla Godzilla back when I was a small child.
A friend of mine had VH s s of all the old like 1960s into the
70s Showa era Godzilla and I watched those all the time
because he was one of my best friends and he was even more

(07:36):
into Godzilla than I was. Didn't watch Godzilla a lot
through middle school, high school, or into adulthood so I
don't even remember exactly which ones I've seen.
Godzilla is a franchise that gets very silly very, very
often, and this one kind of wentback to basics.
It's like the closest to the first one out of any of the

(07:57):
sequels, I would say. You know, they are very serious
about the city destruction and what the consequences are for
the people in that situation. Where is most of the most
Godzilla movies are very flippant about the city
destruction. Like it's just a spectacle for
you to watch and consequences are really shown because that

(08:19):
would be sad instead of fun in this movie just sort of goes,
no, we're going to make you sad.It's a franchise that tends to
avoid devastating character deaths and this one didn't shy
away from it. Although like she wasn't dead,
but you know, you think for a lot of the movie that she is.

(08:40):
I love this movie. I think it's I think it's great.
The characters are amazing. I never thought I would tear up
at a Godzilla movie. And yet in multiple parts of
this movie made me tear up both times I've watched it.
Jill, watching this again, have any of your first impressions
changed at all? Not really, I still feel the

(09:01):
same way about it, like it was moving the first time I watched
it. I think because it was my first,
I'm seeing it. It was like, like I said
earlier, it was life changing. Like it was amazing.
I was kind of in awe of what I was watching.
I didn't expect it to be so good.
After seeing like iteration and iteration of Godzilla.

(09:22):
This is a 37th Like Godzilla entry in the franchise.
Yeah. And like Nathan said, this goes
back to the basics and it's serious.
And I, I think that's what the story is supposed to be because
the original, the original back story is that Godzilla was

(09:43):
created as a metaphor and as a response to the atomic bomb
attacks by the US on Japan during World War 2.
After that, there was a prevalent fear of nuclear
testing and nuclear energy. And Godzilla is a symbol of the
destructive forces in war and serves as a very political

(10:04):
message about the dangers of nuclear weapons.
And I like that. There's not much goofiness in
this. There are funny beats in it, but
it's the characters. Right.
It's like Comic Relief. Some Godzilla movies are kind of
just comedies. With giant.
Yeah, with Giant. Creatures.
So yeah and I think that cheapens it and I don't know

(10:26):
this to me is like I think it's a very culturally significant
symbol for Japan and what it represents for the people.
Like historically, I said this before, but this is a Japanese
story. I think it should remain
Japanese and told by the Japanese.
I kind of really hate like the American iterations like the
Marvel kind of universe, like Godzilla versus whatever.

(10:48):
I don't know, it cheapens it forme.
Like especially since it was theAmericans who unjustly attacked
the Japanese civilians with horrific nuclear warfare.
I don't know, I hate to see American companies like profit
off of something that was meant to empower the Japanese people.
So I don't know, this one just like really brought it back to

(11:09):
the roots and I don't know, I think it's very empowering and
significant. I was thinking because I haven't
seen the original Godzilla, but there's a lot of scenes in here
that seem like they're trying tomake a political statement.
Maybe not nowadays, but you know, back then about Japan and

(11:30):
how the government itself treated the citizens and things
like that. So to me, this seems like a very
like, like they're taking the USreally completely out of this
movie. I mean, they have a little
mention of like the US are busy dealing with the Soviets or
whatever. Yeah, although that is a little,
that is a criticism of the US too, that they're.

(11:54):
Not helping out. They're not helping.
I mean, you know, the US had destroyed Japan's armed forces
and also had the largest armed forces in the world at the time.
And we're in the area and just said no, you're on your own for
this one. So.
And they occupied Japan way for years after the war as well.

(12:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's true as well.Yeah, it is.
It is strange in this movie thatthere is no mention of the US.
Yeah. There's no occupying forces,
huh? Good.
Glad. I don't want to see any
American. Yeah, it does reiterate it's a
Japanese story. And like I said, maybe this is a

(12:36):
real they wanted no outside influence on kind of their
political statement on Japan andhow it looked at its own people
and everything. Like that it's definitely mainly
a critique of the Japanese government.
And actually the original 1 is mostly a critique of the
Japanese government as well. In a lot of ways not valuing

(12:59):
life. I mean the the ordering of of
kamikaze see pilots and stuff like that.
And oh, it's sending the them out on a suicide, another
suicide mission to try and and stall Godzilla so that a warship
could come when they're on this rinky dink little wooden boat.
I mean, you know, that's not valuing human life is is like

(13:21):
the theme of this movie. A lot of it that's.
Part of what makes the story so moving and full of heart because
you really see the resilience ofthe Japanese people and how they
were firstly like decimated by the war and then Godzilla
continues to wreak destruction on their country.

(13:42):
Like kicking them while they're down.
Yeah. But they persevere, they
rebuild. And despite all the loss, they
find a reason to live and heal and carry on.
And I do also like all the kind of anti war, anti military like
government sort of message that's going on, like you said,
Nathan, the low value that they place on human life.

(14:12):
Is astounding and just the way that they're using these people
who have already been through somuch.
And I really love that they rally together as civilians and
just take charge and they also decide to do it, not let anyone
die. Like one life lost is one too
many for them. And I think that's like, I don't

(14:36):
know, that's a really good message.
Yeah, it's, it's empowering. Like all those scenes where they
were trying to come up with the plan of what they're gonna do to
bring Godzilla down in the water.
And they're they're talking like, you know, will this work?
Will this kill Godzilla? And why the friggin floatation?
He's wearing like a belt. Do you see him when he's like

(14:57):
floating up and he has this beltof like floatation devices?
Then he starts getting the bends.
Life preserver. Oh, God, yeah.
I mean, I love all those scenes where all the people who are
going to be going on this mission are talking and they're
like, you know, we went to war. That's going to be worse than

(15:18):
war, right? Yeah.
I was just looking for the line because something Jill said
reminded me of it. Does this mission mean certain
death? And Noda, the scientist says no,
of course not. And he says, well, then it beats
war, doesn't it? Right.
And it's. Like, you know, right.

(15:42):
Yeah, for sure. And they, I think too, they're
all like coming together, like Jill said, and they're realizing
like, we're going on this mission for us to preserve us
and to, you know, preserve life,like, you know, right, this
isn't for the government. And I think that was like a cool
distinction that they were making here.
Like you said, Nathan, with like, we're not trying to die.

(16:03):
Like there is no kamikaze pilot situation here, right?
Like we want everyone to survive.
Right. Except Koichi's trying.
Trying to do it secretly, yeah. The ejection button.
Yeah, I mean they set this up, which is like perfect like with

(16:23):
storytelling because right away.And I want to get your your both
your thoughts on this because this surprised me pretty much
right as the movie starts, we get Godzilla on screen.
Yeah, destroying stuff and and killing people.
How did you like the opening? Because like, I know there's
some people like that, kind of like their monster being like

(16:46):
foreshadowed for a bit and and dreaded, but this is like Nope,
bam, like we're going to show you him.
Well, I think part of that is that there are 37 other movies
in which you see Godzilla there,so there is no element of
surprise going on with that. It worked.

(17:09):
It was. I also was really surprised the
first time I watched this that all of a sudden Godzilla was on
screen like 10 minutes in. But it really set up Koichi's
character perfectly, his cowardice, the consequences of
an inaction and things like that.
I think the scene worked perfectly.

(17:30):
Jill, what do you think? Yeah, same.
Very captivating. Like, right away you get
Godzilla and he looks better than ever.
And also like you said, Koichi, we have these themes of like,
guilt, trauma. Yeah, survivor's guilt, Yes.
It kind of ties into everything,like all those threads that are

(17:51):
running throughout the movie andlike his redemption arc leader.
But also I think it creates thiskind of folklore about Godzilla
because he sees it first hand, but he also hears what people on
the island call him Godzilla. And then he's left to remember
what Godzilla is. And it's funny because he

(18:11):
doesn't like really say anythingabout it.
He just kind of like forgets it and like tries to move on until
now. Stuff starts to hit the fan
again, but then he's able to be the guy who has some information
about Godzilla. I was wondering that exact thing
when they're him and the mechanic there, the head
mechanic are on the ship going back, right?

(18:34):
I'm like, no one said anything about this, Yeah.
This monster, I mean, if you tell people about a giant
monster that you saw that killedeveryone, people are going to
put you in a padded room. And it's wartime, so they could
blame it on the Americans anyway.

(18:54):
Yeah, exactly. Because I was going to say how,
how can they explain all these dead bodies and, and things like
that, You know, the plane. Being wartime, yeah, it's
wartime. They got bombed.
I believe there's actually a line in there somewhere where
Koichi tells Akitsu the government lied about what
happened on what was the name ofthat island it was like.

(19:16):
Odo was it. Yeah, Odo Island, the government
lied about what happened on Odo Island.

(19:38):
If the government's saying, hey,they were bombed and you're
there being like, no, it was a giant monster, they're going to
be like, he's got the shell shock and I feel for him, but I
don't think he's right about that.
Yeah, it's another strike against the government as well,
like hiding things and not taking care of their people and
just being reckless. I felt really bad for Koichi.

(20:01):
He goes back home. First off, his his family is
killed, right? Yeah, in the bombings.
And then his neighbors. Like, what are you doing here?
Like you should be dead. And treating.
Him like kamikaze. Right.

(20:23):
Like holy shit man. Like this poor dude.
There's no empathy here like. Yeah, on top of his own
survivor's guilt, he's compounded with the fact that
the mechanic is really mad at him for not, you know, doing his
job. But so it's his neighbor.
And he, like, can't escape this guilt.
And it turns him into such, like, a husk of a person.

(20:44):
He's just, like, going through life with trauma and regret.
And he's not like purposely living it with Noriko.
Yeah. And then Akiko.
Akiko. So he's not like living life
with them. And it takes him like kind of

(21:06):
almost losing all of that to really realize that he should
have been living his life. But yeah, I think it's awful.
And I also, I also think it's awful that, I don't know, I
think kamikaze pilots in general, it's just like morally
corrupt thing to like employ people to do.
So it's like, yeah, not his fault that he wants to live.
Like that's a naturally human instinct, you know, for.

(21:29):
Sure. Yeah.
And I think that's also a littlebit of a theme there because
Sumiko, who is the woman who ends up becoming a their
babysitter, you know, is angry at him, saying if people like
you had done your jobs, this wouldn't have happened to this
city. And Tachibana, who is the

(21:49):
mechanic is like if you had shotGodzilla, those men wouldn't be
dead. In both cases, none of that is
true. Like the one kamikaze pilot
wasn't going to win Japan the war.
And if he had shot that gun, Godzilla would have looked at
him and chomped him and half after eating every bullet, you
know? So with both Sumiko and

(22:11):
Tachibana, you have to keep in mind that they're in very
emotional states themselves. You know, Tachibana witnessed
all the other mechanics die, andSumiko's entire family is dead,
along with Koichi's family. But there is a theme there of
like, they wanted him to die Forthese reasons, but none of that
would have mattered. It wouldn't have changed

(22:32):
anything and he would have just been gone.
And that's a, you know, kind of the way that governments control
the citizens. You know, they kind of spend
these sort of like propaganda narratives and just turn people
against each other. Yeah, although Sumiko becomes a
character I like later on at. The movie great.
Yeah, I was just gonna mention both her and the head mechanic

(22:56):
there. They both have character changes
because they they really get to know Coach.
I can't say his name, Koichi. Koichi, they get to know him,
right? And they get to kind of see like
the real truth, like you were saying, Jill, like maybe the
government has kind of clouded their minds of what should have

(23:17):
happened. But then they kind of realized
throughout the movie, like, you know, yeah, he should live.
Like we all should live. We should all have a chance at
life and and things like that. So I don't know.
It was it was. It was cool to see their
character arcs as well. And every character in this
movie that is like a main character has some sort of Arc.

(23:39):
It's incredible how it's all balanced and it it just makes
such an enticing story. It's really masterful.
Yeah, because I mean, the big storyline between Koichi and
Noriko is she pretty much shows up at his doorstep with a baby.

(24:03):
What? What right?
That's not her baby, by the way.Right.
You know, she's just doing the right thing after that baby's
parents died. I'm going to bring in Teton,
what we just watched because I think some of these themes kind
of come into this too, where it's like found family a little
bit. You know, it's not who you're
born with, but it's who you die for a little bit.

(24:23):
And I love how that unfolds in the movie.
And we really see their connection, like time passes
and, and things like that. And you, you know, they go from
really not caring about each other to having a family.
Pretty much the only thing preventing it from going all the
way is his own survivor guilt. Am I wrong?

(24:44):
Like he's. No, you're totally right.
His war. Yeah, his war.
Yeah, a couple of points in thismovie where it's just like,
dude, stop being an asshole, Letthat kid call you dad.
You're the dad. You've done this.
Right. Don't be a little bitch.
Come on. Yeah, step up.

(25:04):
You brought them into your house.
I know you didn't ask for them too, but let it go this far.
Just step up. Do the right thing.
Yeah, and, like, you know, they both care about you, like,
tremendously. The daughter's already calling
you Dad, Noriko. She basically begs him not to
take that job as the minesweeperbecause it's a dangerous job.

(25:25):
I forbid. You to die.
When he was like, he was trying to sell it to her, right?
And he's like, oh, we get this amount of money up front, I'm
like, it's gonna be something like fucked up, isn't it?
Minesweeper not good. Dangerous Winky.
Pinky boat that gave me major Jaws vibes.

(25:46):
Like just the crew. Also like the dog, Yeah, the kid
and then the really funny guy. I forget his name and all that,
but yeah, I don't know. The doc also reminded me of is
it Hooper and Jaws? Yeah, very similar to me, like
at least. Like a more likable version of
Hooper, though a little bit. I like Hooper, I do, but there's

(26:09):
no denying he's a bit of a Dick.And Noda, who is the scientist,
not a Dick, so you know he's great.
And I love that he reveals that he's this like mastermind behind
this whole project and everything and they had no idea
they had. No idea.
I do love how, like, the whole crew almost becomes an extended
family there. They hang out together, they get

(26:30):
to know each other. The general there, he's like
kind of a quint like character because he's kind of a grumpy,
yeah, yeah, grumpier guy. Yeah, yeah, there's definitely
some jazz vibes in all of the ocean stuff, honestly.
Holy shit that brings me to likemy favorite scenes is when we
see Godzilla swimming. Like this is the most terrifying

(26:51):
shit I've ever. Seen so scary.
So scary. I don't know why but his face
like water level in those fucking eyes, like coming at you
in the nose and just like water coming out.
Oh my God. There's a feeling of you're in
his territory at that point. You're not supposed to be out on

(27:12):
the water. He lives in the water, you know,
So like, you're at a distinct disadvantage because of this.
Like Jill's saying, you're in a little rinky dink wooden boat,
right? Oh.
My God. And you see, you see what he
does to like the big warships and things like that.
So. Right, you're.
Like Oh my God, like we stand nochance.

(27:35):
But and it's like a that the line Akitsu was like, well,
somebody's got to go after Godzilla.
And then he sees Godzilla take the other ship and he says on
the other hand, maybe not. I wouldn't know what to do.

(28:00):
And that's, that's kind of one of the things I love is like
putting myself in those people'sposition on the boat and seeing
that, like, what would you do, you know?
Full throttle, hope that he becomes disinterested in you
like that's the best he's gonna get.
Did you both like the creature design of Godzilla?
We do see Godzilla a lot in thismovie, right?

(28:22):
Like long shots and things like that.
Was it too much Godzilla? Because I know like maybe if you
see too much of them it it becomes kind of like Jaws was
the other way, right? We didn't see right the shark a
lot, but this, you definitely see Godzilla a lot.
I don't think it's a detriment to the movie at all because they

(28:44):
show so many different facets ofGodzilla and specifically this
version of Godzilla is similar to the other versions, but it's
unique as well. Like he's the biggest I think
he's ever been. He's got like these dorsal, like
fins and scales and like the blue heat ray and like the

(29:06):
radiation. Everything looks amazing.
His teeth are really like monster like and scary and like
slimy and the eyes and the big like swishing tail.
He looks prehistoric. He's he's clever.
He's a giant Dick. Like he does things that are
just menacing. Yeah, terrifying.
Yeah, he's causing mischief overhere.

(29:28):
Another thing I liked about it is that there when he gets
injured, you kind of see like his flesh is charred and it's
kind of like melting before he heals.
And I feel like that, I don't know.
I don't know if that's like a maybe a nod to like victims of
atomic bombs and kind of how they look like when their flesh

(29:49):
is like melting off. In the first Godzilla, his skin
looks like that, and it was explicitly meant to conjure
images of victims of atomic bombs, so you're 100% right
about that. What you are wrong about that
though, is that he's the smallest he's ever been.

(30:09):
Actually. Yeah, he he's the same size as
he was in the first one, and every iteration after that is
bigger. He looks thick though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's beefy.
He's beefy. Yeah.
Actually, the biggest he's ever been is in the American the
recent American ones, where he'sabout four times the size of

(30:32):
this Godzilla. Well, he looks better now.
Well. I think both look good and
actually he's much smaller when he's on the island at the
beginning of the movie too. I don't know if you noticed.
That I thought so, Yeah, I thought so.
Did they have anything to do with like him with a nuclear?
In the first Godzilla, Godzilla was always there, they just

(30:54):
never saw him because he stayed in his in his lane basically.
But he was affected by an atomicbomb test and which made him
larger and more powerful. And so at the beginning of the
movie, the idea is that that atomic bomb test has not
happened yet. It happens and he gets mad about

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it and that's why he decides to fuck up Tokyo.
That explains it. Because they were like, oh, he's
making a beeline for Tokyo. Like, why?
Like, I don't know. Because he's an asshole.
He really is. Yeah, this is not Hero Godzilla
like in some of the the other ones.
So he's just being a Dick to be a Dick.

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I was thinking it would have been cool if they conjured up
Dragon Zord. Power Rangers reference.
Was it the white Power Ranger orthe green power Ranger?
The green Power Ranger had the had the Magic Flute, Yeah.

(32:01):
The flute Dragon Zord come out, it was Godzilla.
The universe they're gonna like,make that collaboration
eventually. Well, you know that the Power
Rangers is actually a Japanese property and that.
Yeah, yeah. All the stuff where they're
speaking English was just stuff added to a Japanese show that

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had a completely different storythan what we watched as
children. So they they basically just cut
all the action scenes out of a Japanese show and then put in
white kids. Well, I guess they were pretty
diverse, but you know, and put in American kids for the stuff
in between the action scenes. All like the big like monster

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stuff has to be based on Godzilla, you know, I mean
especially Dragons or he looks like Godzilla, but.
All the Kaiju. Yeah, and like specifically like
destroying buildings and things like that.
Yeah, this is right out of there.
Speaking of that, when Godzilla starts going inland here, what
were your thoughts on him destroying buildings?

(33:03):
Because I thought the coolest one was when he took the train
there. It was terrifying, but it's also
what I love about Godzilla. Yeah, like I go into a Godzilla
movie looking forward to watching him knock big shit
over. Yeah, you're.
Like yeah, give me more. Yeah, exactly.
And then this one makes me feel bad about it for wanting that

(33:26):
because there's actual consequences in this one or
there's another one. So they're just like, yeah,
actually, he did that, but he's also a hero.
We're not too angry at him. Yeah.
Joel, did you like him destroying the the city there
and causing chaos? I kind of have.
I have to agree with Nathan here.
I was so attached to the character.

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I was like, no, please don't go back out in the water.
That was okay. Yeah, You become really attached
to these characters and you see them just like the whole
everything gets raised from the atomic bombs and they start to
rebuild and here comes Godzilla to take him down again.
So it's just kind of like heart wrenching, but at the same time

(34:11):
he's he's just so cool. Watch.
So exactly. I was like when when they find
out that Godzilla is in the town, what's the town name?
It's. Is it Ginza, which is like a
district of Tokyo, right? When he finds out like
Godzilla's there, he's like, OK,I gotta go get her, right?
I was astonished he found her asquick as he did.

(34:33):
I mean, there's panic on the streets.
Godzilla shit, you found her right away.
One thing that made me kind of mad was when Noriko pushes
Huichi out of the way and pushesthem into the alleyway when she

(34:54):
could have like just like dove into the alleyway and save them,
right. Yeah, I like, I get it.
But like, I was like. Right.
It's just like a Jack falling into the water sort of
situation. Like, get the fuck up there with
Rose, you know? Exactly.
I was getting teary. I I was actually like mad.
Like this scene made me mad and almost.

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Oh, you know, you were mad at Godzilla, you mean?
Well, no, it it was. I was mad at the movie, to be
honest with you, because I was like, I was like, fuck, this is
not the story to tell here. And probably because I was
attached to the character, right?
I was feeling that way, yeah, but I will admit.
Later on, great. I saw why they had to do that
because that was the starting gun for his change, right?

(35:41):
That's when. His redemption.
Yeah, he was like fuck it, I don't care anymore sort of deal
and so. I interrupt my life.
I'm not going to be the guy who doesn't do the thing that saves
everybody. He had a death wish at that
point you just, which is maybe not the best reason to be

(36:04):
heading into that situation, but.
Yeah, and then it kind of bringshim a little too much because
okay, now he wants to be a kamikaze pilot and it's like,
well, yeah, but things have changed.
Now you're kind of responsible for her little kid and things
like that, you know? I mean, I get it.
He. Sumiko was like punching him at
the end. Well, she's holding Akiko and

(36:26):
he's like, yeah, why would you do that?
It was like, I relate to that right now.
Sumiko, you're right about that.Motherfucker, what were you
thinking? But obviously he wasn't
thinking. He was just, I know what I have
to do. He was so driven.
Like that was the thing. It's like he was so driven to

(36:47):
like, I have to be the one to kill myself.
Now I know what I have to do. I thought that kind of went into
why he needed the mechanic back too.
Is like, it has to be him sort of deal like.
I need to redeem myself to him specifically, yeah.
Dude, the way that he kind of like lures the.

(37:10):
Mechanic. I insulting him.
Yeah, it's so funny. Yeah, shows up and just punches
him straight in the face like. Knock him out for real.
The guy was intimidating for sure.
You know, again, he goes througha character and I knew what was

(37:33):
going on when he was looking at the seat.
I'm like, he's gonna, he's gonnaput an ejector injector seat.
And ejector, yeah, because. He kept looking at the seat and
then they did that one scene too, where like we couldn't hear
what he was saying. Right.
It's like you kind of knew what was going on there.
Yeah, Yeah. There was a bit of a
foreshadowing moment there when he ejects and then it does a

(37:56):
little flashback to that and he's telling him, and this is
where the ejector seat is and and Noi Koichi goes, huh, that's
such nothing. And he goes live.
That line is one of the lines that had me tearing up.

(38:17):
I was like, it really did. It made me very emotional when
he was like, live because Tachibana hated him for so long.
And they're doing the right thing and, and, and we're
valuing human life. I don't know, got me right in
the fields. You know, and the picture of

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Noriko. Oh my God, the picture on the
yeah on the dashboard? Or is that called the dashboard
in a plane? I don't even know but.
Yeah. Over here.
Emotional man. I love to how they all have to
come together, like to make thisplan go to fruition.
It, it was a cool moment becauseit was like everybody had their

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own role that they set up throughout, you know, even the
kid that was with them that hurthimself and they're like, no,
you're not going with. A.
Certain deal, he came and helpedand it really kind of saved the
day. Yeah, it seems here comes the
useless one. Yes, that's a hinge.
All the other guys must. It was great, the tugboats
because you gathered all the. Tugboats in the port.

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I got to say when you know when.Godzilla goes to use his nuclear
power. It is badass.
I just love like the Oh my God, the blue.
Kind of coming through him a little bit.
This scene, too, especially because the music cuts out,
right? And when they're going to attack
Godzilla here, they know that they're going to die because

(39:43):
he's revving back up to you. It's nuclear, his nuclear power.
And they've done all they can do.
And I thought that was such an emotional scene.
Like it was like they were just accepting their fate at that
point where they did all they could do.
This is the end. But then here comes.
Mizushima, Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a great.

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Scene, you know, you get the ejector button, the plane goes.
This was a funny scene to me, too, because the plane just went
whoop, like, right in his mouth.Well, that's where he aimed it.
Yeah, I. Know, but usually.
You have a like a big kind of Hollywood explosion or whatever,
and this was just like, and it'ssticking in his mouth.

(40:29):
Like, wait a minute, where's the?
Explosion and then all of a sudden blew that head up.
They caught me by. Sprints because I thought.
What they set up really good throughout this movie is
nothing's working to kill Godzilla.
They had put a mine earlier in his mouth, right?
And it like blew up his mouth and then his mouth comes back
together and stuff as the audience were thinking, man, I

(40:51):
don't know if this is going to work.
They're cooked, as the kids say.Although what's crazy about that
too? Is that makes Godzilla more
vulnerable than he is in like almost any other movie that
you'd see him in? Because most of the time when
you like throw a mine at him, shoot him with a missile Nukem,

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he just shrugs it off like no damage done whatsoever.
So for him to have to regenerateactually makes him more
vulnerable than in other movies.So it gives you like a false
sense of hope. Until you realize oh means
regenerating and OK, now they'retruly doomed.
So here's my question. Did.

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This really work or no? Because we get kind of a scene
at the end where it's something's happening.
No, it didn't. It didn't.
Work. Godzilla doesn't die.
Never dies. He doesn't die.
Pure evil never dies. Yeah.
Evil never dies. Although he's good in some of
the movies, but he's he is less likely to die than any of the

(41:58):
the slashers. You know you say.
Jason. Dies, but he doesn't die.
Godzilla is worse than that. He came back for 36 more movies
rather than just like 11. So part God, part monster.
Yeah. So no it.
The reality is it didn't work. He'll probably go off somewhere

(42:18):
and lick his wounds for a while,and then he'll come back to
fight a monster somewhere. I don't know.
Next one's got to be a Versus movie, right?
King Kong. Oh yeah, Mothra.
Mothra. Rodon Well, that's my question.
Do you want to see? Another one now that that we've
had this, yes, from the same round, there is the sequel.
They are, I think. Greenlit to do a sequel and I

(42:40):
think that's why they set up that ending.
Oh OK, so I don't know, I kind of I'm scared because I don't
want it to suck. This movie was so good so how
could it suck? But I'm also scared because I
love this movie. There are very few Godzilla.
Movies to me that aren't good because I love all the ways that

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Godzilla is presented. I like it when he's an asshole
villain. I like it when he's the hero.
I like it when he's an anti hero, I like it when it's
serious, and I like it when it'ssilly.
So there's not a lot of Godzillamovies I've seen that I don't
enjoy. And in fact, I I do enjoy the

(43:21):
American ones, the Godzilla versus Kong.
In fact, there's only two I can think of off the top of my head
that I would just not recommend to anybody.
Roland Emmerich's Godzilla 1998,that is a pile of trash.
Oh my God, that's like the one most people.
Have seen I feel. Oh my God, it's the.
There's been like, some people are like doing a little

(43:44):
reassessment of it and saying it's not a good Godzilla movie,
but it's a good movie and I no, no, it's just a pile of hot
garbage. It's awful in every way.
And then All Monsters Attack is really bad because it turns out
it was all a dream. Oh, fuck off.
Also Godzilla. Starts giving a.
Kid advice on how to deal with his bullies and shit.

(44:07):
Good advice. Like Godzilla?
Son and tell. Like Godzilla always says, I
have to stand up for myself. Godzilla didn't tell you shit.
You dumb fuck. Are.
They on drugs? Godzilla.

(44:28):
I don't know. That movie feels a little
drugged out. Everybody, yeah, Everybody
making that movie was on something.
You know what I wanted to see and I heard.
There's an all black and white version of this movie, correct?
Godzilla minus color, they call it.
It's on Netflix. Too.
Might have to watch that. For sure.
Is there anything else you want to talk about?

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We didn't talk about how it turns out.
Noriko's still alive after they killed her.
He goes and sees her at the hospital and she says, is your
war finally over? That also made me cry.
Because I so invested in their relationship, even though I was

(45:13):
pissed at Koichi half the time, I still loved them as a couple
and I wanted them to be happy together.
Nathan, I'm glad you brought this up because.
Remember earlier when I was saying like when she had quote
UN quote died like that made me mad at the movie This like this
really redeemed it. For me.
It probably bumped it up a half star for for me because I was

(45:34):
like, OK, now like this storyline all makes sense.
And when I wanted, yeah, becausethere get to be a couple.
And yeah, it is almost a little cheap to be honest with you.
Like they are having their cake and eating it too.
But I don't care. I've been through enough, you
know? Exactly let.
Them have it, yeah. Exactly.
Jill is right on. Here because.

(45:55):
This movie is all about beating down people, right?
Like, and perseverance through everything.
And at the end of it, if you're telling me that, like, this main
character, that he's really his love and his purpose has died,
then it's like, well, fuck me. Like, that sucks.
You know what I mean? Like, yeah, right.

(46:16):
Bleak. Yeah, yeah.
And I get I get bleak is in right now, like a lot of people
do the bleak endings, but I don't know.
I've come around like where likehappy endings I'm good with now
because there's too much of I I know I watch a lot of.
Fucked up art house stuff with like bleak endings and stuff
like that. But I am with you on this.

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I am tired of everything being so bleak.
I'm tired of every horror movie ending with the villain winning.
I don't know. I gave a movie 2 stars pretty
recently, recently that everybody else is giving four
and five stars. I can't remember the name of it.
This couple gets taken into thisneighborhood that they can't
leave. Oh.

(47:00):
Vibrarium or something like that.
Vivarium. Vivarium.
Vivarium. And I was just so mad at the.
Ending that, I was like, I can'tdo this anymore.
Two stars, fuck you. It was like idea, like yeah.
I I get it but. I at the end I was just like,
why did I Now I'm depressed and like, yeah, I'm just, I'm tired

(47:24):
of bleakness. But this movie, it ends on a
high note. And it's very Steven Spielberg,
too, isn't it? Yeah, Yeah.
You know, we were comparing it to Jaws.
Got to be inspired. Jurassic Park.
Also maybe yeah, Jurassic. Park, alternatively, was also
very inspired by Godzilla. So it's a big old cycle, you

(47:46):
know, full circle well. It's time for a quote or kill.
We're going to give you our favorite quote in the movie, or
our favorite kill of the movie, or both.
There's not many very specific kills in this movie, I got to
tell you, it's all mass death. I don't know if this was mass.
Death. So this could be a Gray area
here, but when they're like first going out to go confront

(48:10):
Godzilla and they have the decoyships and they're like, oh man.
Like he's he's gone through the decoys, he's coming into the
city and all of a sudden you just see a big ship just get
thrown through. I was like, holy shit.
Yeah, shit. This is crazy.
Yeah, he is a menace. Yeah, he threw.

(48:32):
It like a football, I'll give that.
My favorite kill, I don't know if anybody but somebody had to
die. I mean, it went to oh, dude,
everybody on that ship. Died and then everybody that
that ship crushed died. So yeah, I count it.
That's safe. My quote.
Is the one you just mentioned Nathan?
Is your war finally over? Thought that was just symbolic.

(48:59):
Throughout, you know, for a lot of things we said, not only
because it was like his personalwar was over, but it was kind of
like the war that was going on with, you know, the Japanese
people and what they were experiencing felt at least over
for the time being. So I thought that was a cool
moment. Jill, how about you OK for kill?

(49:21):
Have to pick 1. So I'm going to say all the
times that he just like in the beginning especially just like
pick people up with his mouth and just like threw them like
needed them. It just reminded me of like a
dog or something. I don't know.
It's just like kind of comical. Yeah, my favorite quote.
Come to think of it. This country has treated life

(49:41):
far too cheaply. Poorly armored tanks, poor
supply chains resulting in half of all death and starvation and
disease, fighter planes built without ejection seats, and
finally kamikaze and suicide attack.

(50:02):
Sacrifices no lives at all. The next battle is not one wage
to the death, but a battle to live for the future.
And that is from Doc. I really like that.
And I remember hearing it for the first time when I watched it
in the theater. And I was like, the treating
death or treating lives in humanlife so cheaply.
I don't know. I really agree with that
sentiment because I feel like I kind of talked about it earlier.

(50:24):
But employing kamikaze pilots isjust so it places 0 value on
human life. Yeah.
And for most of the movie, Koichi feels immense guilt over
avoiding his duty, and the guiltwas reinforced for him.
I I really like that scene too, where he's like shaking when
he's about to get in the plane. He's like, I'm afraid to die.

(50:45):
And I think that's just like such a great redemption arc for
Kuici. And he fights and defeats
Godzilla and chooses to live life for once with his new
family. I also love that not only do we
get Kuici's personal story with his suffering, his loss, his
guilt, his trauma, but we also see that as a whole for like the

(51:07):
Japanese people, what they've been through, what they've lost.
And they also have a redemption arc when they take things into
their own hands and decide to like fight themselves.
And I, I really like that there's this duality between the
two. I'll get off my tangent, Nathan
Quarter kill or both. My favorite kill is.
Very similar to yours and actually included in yours.

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It was the first guy who got launched when Godzilla picked
him up and just went and it was like launched him like a
football field away. And I just felt like this shows
how serious it is. He does it a few more times, but
the first one I I thought was pretty great.
My favorite quote. I kind of have to, and they're

(51:50):
in tandem when Noriko yells at him.
I forbid you to die. It's.
Funny a little bit, but it's also like he was this kamikaze
pilot and he felt like his life doesn't didn't have much value.
She's saying, no, your life doeshave value.

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And I think that's pretty great.And also the suddenness in the
yelling was was kind of funny. I laughed at it a little bit.
So and then the other line is just when Tachibana says live,
it's the same idea. He's he's trying to die.
He's on a suicide mission. And and Tachibana saying, no,

(52:32):
you don't have to do that live. We'll do this without you dying.
I don't have this as a favorite line, but Akitsu actually has
another line that's sort of likethat.
And he says if you orphan Akiko,I'll kill you.
Yeah, yeah, I love. That too.

(52:52):
I liked all that stuff. So I think it hammers home
they're like. Their family, you know, their
makeshift family, they're like caring and protecting.
Each other. Because their birth families are
all. Dead from the war.
So great. It's time for our letterbox
rating. We're going to rate this movie
from one to five stars. 5 is nuclear Godzilla. 1 is Noriko's

(53:15):
supposed death. Still mad?
Nathan, go first. Yeah, 2 movies in a row.
I'm giving this one five stars. I think this is a complete
Nutter masterpiece. I sort of went back and forth
between 4 1/2 and five and and then said, who am I kidding?
I know this is as good as it is.That's right, I love all the.

(53:38):
Characters I. Love the drama between the
characters. Godzilla movies have a habit of
making the human drama be not sogreat in your just waiting for
Godzilla a lot of the time. And this movie doesn't do that.
It does the human drama perfectly and you care about
these people and I think that's the most important part.

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We've talked a lot about, you know, what the themes are and
stuff like that. But I think the real core of
this movie, what makes it so great, is the love story between
Noriko and Koichi, and Godzilla provides the drama at the end of
it. So yeah, I love this movie. 5
stars. You know what I had said earlier
about. Her living at the end like

(54:23):
bumping it up a half star. I was between 4 1/2 and five, to
be honest with you, and it bumped it up to A5 for me.
Now this isn't without faults because I've talked glowingly.
I do have two little tiny problems with this movie that I
had me at 4 1/2 and one is the length.

(54:44):
I think it's a it's a longer movie, but I can forgive it
because it's telling a story here.
Like it's not just monster chaos.
What? Is the length.
Actually it's. About two O 6 I think.
OK. And I mean, that's pretty
standard. For these days, yeah.

(55:04):
These days, yeah. Yeah, I'm.
Pretty sure I'm old school. Where like, you know, an hour
and 4590 minutes is starting to starting to weigh on me a little
bit. My other little nitpick is I
wanted to see a little bit more Godzilla, to be honest with you.
And again, it goes back to this is such a good story and I I

(55:26):
love this story. I just wanted more like maybe
scenes of him destroying other places and kind of building up
this tension of like, Godzilla'son his way, you know?
Like, because there's parts of this movie where you kind of
forget Godzilla's out there a little bit and they're like, oh,
that's part of what I love aboutthis movie, though.

(55:47):
Is it's not really about Godzilla, Yeah, but.
I get what you're. Saying, though, I, I, I hear
you, but you still gave it five stars.
So yeah. And I I just got to.
Be fair because I mean listen and I give a lot of movies 5
stars that I have issues with, but these issues I can overlook
because I think at the end of the day this story was pretty

(56:09):
captivating. Godzilla himself was pretty
freaking cool. I mean selfishly that's why I
wanted to see more of them. Like I like the on screen stuff.
Like I said at the beginning, I'm going to be checking more
Godzilla movies out because thiswas my gateway.
So thank you, Jill, for picking this.
Jill, you want to close us out? Yeah, I'll round us off.

(56:31):
Here with another five stars, because obviously it's a it's a
masterpiece, like Nathan said. The first time I saw it, I was
just enthralled and I was I was like, this is amazing.
I love the creature design. I think Godzilla looks amazing.
It's really scary, especially inthe water.
It's terrifying. The characters have so much
heart. They're very well written.

(56:53):
There's funny beats in there, but it's not too goofy.
And I think it just tells like the story of Godzilla, the story
of what he stands for to the Japanese people.
And I think it's really important.
And if you're gonna pick a Godzilla movie to watch, pick
this one. You know what I really like
about this too? Thinking about it, because I

(57:15):
know you both had made the points like, you know, like this
kind of just gets you into Godzilla.
Like I like that. Like there wasn't a ton of
exposition either of like explaining everything behind
Godzilla and and all the lore and everything like that,
because like you've been saying,there's 30 some odd movies, like
everybody knows Godzilla. I've never seen a Godzilla

(57:37):
movie, and I know him, you know?So yeah, nobody's gonna be
surprised when they see. Godzilla the way they were when
they when the first Godzilla came out.
You know what school is this? Is the second movie we've all
rated five stars. Yes, it is.
The other one's Jurassic Park. We have a.
Theme going on here, yeah. Yeah.

(58:00):
Giant animals, giant reptiles, you know.
Yeah, our thing I guess. Five star club, we got two of
them. Pew Pew.
Before we end the episode, we want to let you know what we've
been up to. Did you like my little guns?
Pew Pew. Yeah, That was good.
That was good. I could have went head to head

(58:20):
with Godzilla. Your head would have been taken
right off. That's probably true.
Go off, I had a rewatch. This week of a movie called Tag.
It's a comedy from 2018 that hasJeremy Renner, Ed Helms, Jake
Johnson, I think is his name. Oh, the guy who's in Madman,
What's his name? Jon Hamm.

(58:41):
Jon Hamm. I was like, it's a meet.
I can't. Remember, that was him.
Ron Hamm is so hot. He is a good looking guy.
I can't argue it's. A story of a few friends, and
it's based on a real story, A few friends that are now, like,
middle-aged and have lives and jobs and families and all this

(59:01):
stuff. And they live in different
places in the United States, butevery may they have a game of
tag. They've continued playing the
same game of tag since they werelittle kids.
And in real life, they've gone to, like, a cross country and
dressed up in disguise and will,like, tag their friend and
things like that. I just mean this.

(59:23):
Yeah. Yes, I.
I remember it now that. You're describing it.
It's a fun movie. I mean it's.
Like obviously a stupid premise because they hold like this
game, A tag in such high standard.
Jeremy Renner is the friend that's never been tagged.
So they all are coming together here to try to tag him.

(59:43):
This is the time they have to tag him.
And it's it's funny. It's it's really a good like
coming of age story that remindsyou of like your childhood, like
of your friends and things like that.
And you know, it's like no matter how life gets tough and
serious, you shouldn't lose kindof the person you are as who's
younger a little bit. So that's why I like it.

(01:00:05):
I gave it five stars because I think it's very funny and heart
warming at the same time. It hits that perfect niche for
me. It's not like too stupid.
I recommend it. If you haven't seen it, Jill,
rewatch it and let let me know what you think of it.
I haven't seen it, you know. Five stars, though.
Five stars. Yeah, I like.

(01:00:27):
And a lot. We're gonna.
Give Godzilla -1. 4 1/2 I know. For shame.
I know that's. How I am I'm all.
Over the place. Speaking of all over the place,
I went to see the new Toxic Avenger movie.
Yeah, I don't know what I wanna.Say about it.
Yeah, I saw your letterbox scoreon this one.

(01:00:49):
And I gave this one. Star on my letterbox.
I was not happy. God, the trailer looks.
So good, I know it's funny cuz. I was talking to Nathan.
He was like, you know, I've seena lot of people who are saying
pretty good things, and I've seen it too.
I don't know what my disconnect is, but like, I loved the first
one so much. I really did.

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And it just hit like, all these beats perfect for me because
it's like, over the top stupid fun.
And this one, I felt like they were just trying too hard.
At the end of the day. They were trying too hard to
make, like, a toxic Avenger. Yeah.
I don't know. It just came off as fake, kind
of. I don't know.
See, that's how I felt about that street.

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Trash remake that the mouths of madness all loved.
So I totally get what you're saying.
Is there a scene where he pissesin his own mouth?
So kind of he doesn't. Piss in his own mouth, but he
does pee on himself. Yeah, well, that's
disappointing. It's like.
One of only a few like. Over the top scenes in my

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opinion, like and I. Oh really?
I realize. My bar.
Is pretty high of like what overthe top is like, don't get me
wrong, but I don't know like I Ifelt like there were a couple
like over the top moments, but otherwise it's just kind of
boring to be honest with you, inmy opinion.
Jeez, OK, damn. I'll.
Find out eventually. I've heard bad things.

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Have you? Yeah.
OK, I mean, listen, I I would say go see it because like
movies like this, they need to be loved in the theater.
Because if they're not, then they just stopped making these
sort of movies. And it's just my opinion.
You might have seen it and you're like, whoa, like this
dude is crazy. I love this movie and that's
awesome. Like I just, I think a lot like

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you were saying, maybe with street trash.
I never saw the original St. trash.
So like the when I had seen the newer one, I was like, I like
this when I said that about St. trash.
I don't like the. Original St. trash either My my
problem was that it it felt likea fake B movie from the 70s

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eighties is what I you know whatI'm saying?
Like it was trying too hard to be one of these over top over
the top movies to the point where it was just annoying.
I I I like the original better even though I don't like the
original St. trash. So because the original St.
trash is I don't it's cruel in away that a toxic Avenger isn't,

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and it just, I don't know, left an icky taste in my mouth.
Basically, I guess this movie left an icky taste in my.
Mouth too. That's OK.
And it wasn't pee either. Joe, how about you?
Yeah, I got 3 movies. That I watched that I'll talk
about yesterday I put on Bride of Frankenstein from 1935.

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Oh, my first. Watch.
Have you guys seen it? I want to see the Frankenstein.
'S from the 30s. I just saw it's on I.
Shudder, right? Yes, that's where I watched.
It they must have just. Added it.
I'm a big fan of Frankenstein ingeneral, just like the book and
the concept and Bride of Frankenstein.
I guess I was a bit of a poser because I'd never seen the

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movie, right? But I have a bunch of Bride and
Frankenstein like stuff in my house.
It's everywhere. So now I feel kind of horrible
because it's not a love story atall.
It's quite the opposite. It's.
OK, it's a story of rejection like and and the bride is only

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in the movie like for the last like 4 minutes or something,
which is a shame because she's so good.
Like the actress is so good. Who plays her?
I don't know. I really like the movie though.
I realized that one of the characters, I think it hurt.
The actress's name is Una O'Connor.
She was in The Invisible Man. She's like the the lady who

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works at the inn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Her wife. Remember how she's always.
Screaming and stuff. She was like over the top.
Yeah, same, same character in front of Frankenstein.
She's like, like a handmaiden, like kind of lady.
I had to look it up. I was like this, this has to be
the same lady. And it is.
Is it directed by? James Whale.

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Yeah. So it's the.
Original Frankenstein. So, yeah, he kind of keeps like
the same like actors and stuff in his movies.
And he was also, I think we talked about this in The
Invisible Man, like openly gay. Big deal back then.
Yeah, it's a big deal. Back then I also was.
Reading about him, he like, committed suicide.
Oh, it's really sad. I do not.

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Know that I. Think Bride and Frankenstein.
Even. Though the bride's only in it
for like the last four minutes, it is a very like feminist kind
of movie in the beginning. And this is where it kind of is
different from the original Frankenstein movie is that it's
its own entity. It's not like based off of the
book Holy, which was one of my gripes with the movie.
But this one, it starts off withthe character of Mary Shelley

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and Lord Byron and Percy Shelley.
And they're all discussing the publication of her book
Frankenstein, and how it's crazythat a woman wrote such horrific
things and all this kind of stuff.
So and the same character who plays Mary Shelley ends up
playing the bride. She's amazing.
I love her. The bride is reanimated and

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Frankenstein tries to make a move and she rejects him.
She like screams I don't know if.
That's a spoiler alert, but a. Little bit like.
I had to bleed this out but. I'm sleeping out of my head.
Sorry, listen, it's a from 19. 35 OK, we haven't seen it by

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now. I was a. 100 years old.
But it is really good, so yeah, go.
Watch it on shutter. The next thing was a rewatch for
me. I put on girl interrupted
because I was trying to go to sleep.
It is that that was when I watched a lot high school but
same. Actually.

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This was when I watched a lot ofin my youth.
Probably the same for you, Nathan.
My sister watched it a lot more than I did.
Which I'm sure makes sense to you, but I watched it.
I watched it a few times becauseshe would put it that in the
craft though girl interrupted inthe craft where like my sister's
movies. I liked them as well.

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I like your sister already. She also.
Likes. The Wicker man with Nicolas Cage
so the original Wicker man is somuch better the.
Original OH. My God, you have to.
So good. I like that movie though, yeah.
It still holds. True.
We just had mentioned Carol. Interrupted on the Mazda Madness

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this week because Clea Duvall was in faculty.
Yeah, I hadn't seen Carol interrupted in forever, so I
couldn't remember her role in it.
She play. I mean, she's one of the
patients right in there with me to look this up for me.
Sorry, I didn't. Mean to derail it.
It was just. It was funny.
No, I want to know. I think she's just like.

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On the side, yeah, because like the main.
The main trio. I think is Winona Ryder,
Brittany Murphy and Angelina Jolie no as well you're.
The the person. You think is Brittany Murphy is
Clea Duvall because Brittany Murphy's not in this.
No, you're right. You're in this movie.
You're right. I'm wrong.
I'm 100% wrong. I've never been more wrong in my

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entire life. It's like maybe I'm thinking
about a. Completely different movie.
She's a roommate. She's one of a writer.
'S roommate. Now I know who you're talking
about. I didn't know her name.
She's Stokely in the faculty. She plays a pathological liar.
And girl interrupted. Oh, that's right, that was her.
Thing I remember every characterhad like a thing that was like,

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you know, not defined to them, but was that was notable about
like their issue, yeah. Exactly.
But yeah. I love stories of.
Mentally ill girls, women. So it's right up my alley.
It's based on a book, which is amemoir.
It's also called Girl Interrupted by Susanna Kason,

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which is like the main characterin the movie.
So I do want to read that and see what's up.
Last thing that I watched was Perfect Blue.
I want to see this. You haven't seen it yet?
No, OK. It's up your alley.
I think you'll like it. So that was my pick over on its
latest podcast. I try to keep some sort of theme
when I do a pic here and a pic there.

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So this team is Japanese. Japanese.
Yeah, yeah, if you. Wanna hear what I have to say
about? It you can go check out the
episode. I think it just dropped like a
couple days ago. But I really enjoy the animation
and the themes of fame, sanity and feminism all in there.
So yeah, it does. It seems like it could be up

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your alley, Nathan, so you should check it out.
But yeah, that's all I've been up to.
I have been watching. A lot of big stupid monster
movies. Oh, I saw yeah first. 1.
I watched was Independence Day, which by every reasonable metric
is actually a terrible movie, but I don't care.

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I love it. I gave it four stars on my
letterbox. It's a rewatch.
The first time I watched it, I was like 1012 years old in the
theater and it's the perfect movie for a child that age.
You know, on Aliens show Up, they blow everything up and
that's fun to watch. Jeff Goldblum comes up with a

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plan that doesn't make any sensewhatsoever and it works.
It's Jeff Goldblum. Things just happen, you know,
people just find each other out of nowhere for no reason.
I had fun with it. It's a big blow everything up
disaster movie by Roland Demrichwho also made Godzilla 98 and
that one. It's terrible, don't watch it.

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In fact, Roland Demerich in my opinion has one good movie and
it is Independence Day and it's not actually a good movie so
maybe he has none. I also watched the original
Godzilla from 1954. I found something out about this
movie that I didn't know and it was that I haven't actually seen

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it before now. Apparently the version that I
saw when I was a young child wasthe Americanized version where
they took the original one that is now on HBO and cut it up and
cut all of the stuff about nuclear weapons out and also

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added some white actor, some Canadian actor, to sort of make
it so that American audiences could relate to it or something.
He just is in scenes even thoughhe wasn't a part of the movie at
all. They cut out about 1/2 an hour

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of the original movie and just rearranged it into this weird
thing that I saw as a child and loved and have been recommending
to to people. Apparently the original.
Godzilla wasn't even available on home video in English until
2006, which is well after the last time I saw it.

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I was not aware of that at all. But yeah, the original Godzilla,
it's great. It's extremely dated.
I mean, it is a man in a rubber suit destroying miniatures, but
it's another serious Godzilla movie, much like Godzilla -1.
That's why I'd say like Godzilla-1 sort of went back to its
roots. It's it's just really good.

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The characters aren't quite as good as Godzilla -1.
I think Godzilla -1 is actually the better movie.
I still really liked it and I would recommend that.
If you're getting into Godzilla,you should probably watch that
one next, because you, yeah, because you got to, you got to

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know where the series came from.I don't know, I don't think
you'll like it as much as Godzilla -1 but you got to be
educated on the series, I think.And then?
I watched another. Godzilla movie?
I watched Godzilla versus Biolante from 1989.
They're still not assisting Godzilla's looks with the use of

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CG, so it is still a man in a rubber suit destroying
miniatures. But rubber suit technology and
miniatures have come a long way since 1954, so it does look way
less dated than the original Godzilla and it is a lot of fun.
Biolante is a plant monster thata scientist made by combining

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the cells of his dead daughter with with a rose and also
Godzilla cells because they get a bunch of Godzilla cells from
the last movie which I haven't seen where they threw them into
a volcano. That's one way to get rid of
them. Godzilla has died in many ways,

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but never actually died. So, and it's it's pretty great.
Godzilla gets into a fight with the giant rose monster.
He is the hero of this particular movie, despite the
fact that he was the villain of the movie before and nothing
about its characters change. And that's, that's that's

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Godzilla for you. There's a whole like corporate
espionage plot for the human part of the story.
Everybody's after these Godzillacells because they can do some
sort of science with it that creates some sort of weapon or
something. I don't know.
It doesn't matter. You get to watch Godzilla fight

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Biolante. That's that's the part that
really matters. That's the fun part.
Although the corporate espionage.
Stuff is a little. Bit fun too.
I just don't think it. You don't need to understand it
entirely to enjoy it. So yeah, I've run the gamut of
of Godzilla. Although even Godzilla versus
Biolante isn't as silly as it can get.

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Though I I recommend after you watch the original Godzilla to
watch Destroy All Monsters. That's where it gets really,
really silly. Write that down, you know.
Oh boy. Yeah.
That's everything I've watched. I watched a bunch of Godzilla
and then Independence Day. Hell yeah, brother, I've never.

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Seen Independence Day? You haven't seen Independence
Day. Whoa.
I I wouldn't call it essential viewing.
To be honest with you, sorry, isthat like UN American?
I mean, it is. There are parts of Independence
Day where it's just like American propaganda.

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So, you know, America. America President.
Looks like Gavin Newsom. In that movie, though, a little
tease. If you're interested.
In knowing what? We're watching.
We're going to have links down in the description to all our
letterbox accounts, and if you're interested in knowing
what Jill's reading, we're goingto have a link to her Goodreads

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account as well. That does it for a review of
Godzilla -1 but we'll be back with a new episode, and we're
going to be reviewing my pic, The Black Phone.
We hope you'll be our. +1. For that.
But until then. Back to the padded room with

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you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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