Silent Hill (2006): Straitjacket Talk

Silent Hill from 2006 was one of the most notable video game adaptions of horror genre..but was it one of the best? The monsters and world of Silent Hill have a lasting legacy and iconology in horror! Kevin, Nathan, and Gill discuss everything from the sexy Demon Nurses to Pyramid Head and all the themes beneath the horror!

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No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey everyone, welcome to

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Straitjacket Talk where it's twoguys, a girl, and a horror show.
My name is Kevin and I'm joined by a guy who is sin Incarnate.
It's Nathan. Yeah, that's me.
Sin Incarnate, always with the sinning.
Lots of sinning. Lots of sinning and Incarnate.
You know, that's the important part.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm also joined by a girl who is

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still stuck in Silent Hill. It's Jill.
I'm still there. I'm a ghost in this dimension.
But you're communicating with us, so that's pretty cool.
Is everything blue? It might be might be purple a
little. Ashy.
Definitely need some moisturizer.
Well, moisturize me. Moisturize me.
This one's taking a turn quick. The Doctor Who quote, I'm sorry.

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I thought it was a Silent Hill porno quote.
There is a lot of porn for this movie.
I wouldn't know that, yeah. It's the nurses, right?
And and Pyramid Head. Yeah, that makes some sense.
It's pretty cool stuff. It's artistic.
I. Recommend you mean it's?
Porn. Hey, pornography could be

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artistic, right? It depends.
Yeah, I mean, Lars von Trier thinks so anyway.
Who's Lars Van Dreyer? He directed Nymphomaniac.
Oh yeah. OK, you ever want to see Mia
Goth getting fucked up the ass? Just watch that movie.
Write that out, writing it down.Sorry this this episode needs a

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break. A cold shower.
Right. Hose me down.
Well, we watch Silent Hill from 2006.
It was written by Roger Avery, and it was directed by
Christopher Ganz. It's based on the Silent Hill
video game series. This movie had a budget of $50

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million. Do you know how much it made at
the box office? Nathan, what are you thinking?
I'm thinking it did poorly because I didn't really know
this movie existed until I made the intro to Straitjacket Talk,
which includes a clip from this movie.
So I'm going to say 40 million. OK, I'm I'm shocked first of

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all, that you what, you never heard like knew of Silent Hill
and. Silent Hill, the video game.
But not the movie. Not the movie, no.
That's crazy. Oh, I don't know, 125 million?
You're both off a little bit, but I believe Jill would be the
closest. It made $100.6 million at the

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box office. So all right, it did pretty
well. I wonder if a lot of that has to
do with it being based on the video game.
The the video game was pretty big back in 2006.
A lot of people, although I've never played them, but they were
pretty popular, those games, so.It it's funny 'cause I'm like
the opposite where I heard of the movie but never heard of the

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video game. Yeah.
Has anybody here played the video game?
No. OK, so none of us have played
the video game, so as an adaptation we have no idea.
That's probably better. Maybe.
We're coming to this with a fresh perspective.
Right, right. Currently on Rotten Tomatoes,

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Silent Hill has a 33% critic score and a 63% audience score.
So those are kind of on oppositeends of the spectrum there.
But what did we think of this movie?
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Isn't that right, Nathan? Yes, it's a privilege.
Well, this was Jill's pick for an episode.
So, Jill, why did you choose Silent Hill for us to review?
So honestly, this has always been probably, I don't know, one
of the movies I remember the most and associate the most with
horror movies I watched in high school.

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So like the early 2000s, I have fond memories of it.
And also it came out during a time when Resident Evil was also
a popular game and movie. So I feel like this was just
like a different era in horror movies and also like horror
video games and then getting thedelight to like be able to see a

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good movie or a decent movie based off of like this game.
And I don't know, I also really like early 2000s horror.
That's probably one of my favorite kind of subgenres.
And I think that's because I grew up with it.
Like that's when I was watching horror movies for like the first
time in my life. Also because whenever it's my
pick I try to do like a theme with my pick on it's Lay's

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podcast because I usually have them like lined up when it's my
pick And so for its sleighs I chose also 2006 The Hills Have
Eyes for a similar reason. I thought it was like a
prominent movie of the time. And it's crazy that they both
came out in the same year. Like there's so many, like, good

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horror movies that, you know, inthat year.
Yeah. I decided to do Silent Hill
because I've always wanted to cover it, but it slays.
Also already did an episode on it.
And I'm honestly really curious how you guys remember it, if you
watched it back then or how you like it now.
I really want to play the games now that I've rewatched the
movie. And yeah, I'm just excited to

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talk about. It I saw this movie like when it
first came out, I remember Distinctive distinctly seeing
this. I remember kind of liking it at
the time, thinking it was creepy.
A lot of the visuals of the movie are pretty iconic, like
you see them in a lot of different pop culture things
throughout the years. I look at the early 2000s a

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little bit differently than you do, which is kind of cool.
Like like a lot of the early 2000s stuff I wasn't a huge fan
of like horror wise. Yeah, but we were kind of Snooty
in that way back in like high school.
You know, you were a little older, so you had more of a
brain. Well, I mean our I was learned

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in the wrong generation back when I was in high school and I
tended not to like new things that came out back then.
Doesn't apply to this movie because I didn't see it when it
came out, but. Yeah, no, no, that's I think
that's valid. It's like, at least for me, like
music too, music movies, like I liked everything a little bit
before my time. And it's funny too, because even

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like like Scream, you Scream. I appreciated when it came out,
but like even some of the like late 90s horror movies that were
really more in my time, I still wasn't like gung ho about
because I was like, yeah, fuck this new stuff.
Like I like, I like the older 80s stuff.
And and yeah, anything past 86, no good.

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No good. Right, right.
In saying that though, like now I am appreciating early 2000s
stuff more and more. I think it's funny when you look
at this movie, at least to me, it has a distinct style.
And it's not just the movie itself.
It's like that early 2000s style, and I don't know how to

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describe it. It's clear.
Yeah. Like a lot of those movies have
that same, same feel. And now, like, I think you can
appreciate it where you're like,wow, like this kind of puts me
back into that time frame. I will say one thing about
Silent Hill is I think it was a little ahead of its time and

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what they were trying to do. Because I think if this came out
more recently with stuff, they could maybe go to like places
that were a little darker and more macabre that they were
trying to get to with the Got. Pretty dark there, but I mean in
that flashback especially. With How are we going to talk

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about the rape right away You. Know what can happen to little
girls when they're left alone? Not right away, no.
I'm just mentioning that it got super dark, that's all.
We don't have to talk about it right away.
Get us dinner first. Yeah, that's not what
specifically when I was talking,but I was just like more like
some of the like scenes with thethe binding and like the

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different creatures and things like that.
I think you could have went a little bit more on, but I think
for me this was a fun watch because I hadn't seen it in so
long. I will say I like a lot of this
movie. There's also a lot of this movie
I didn't really like at all either.
So I'm like 5050 on this and I'mhoping maybe like hearing both

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of your opinions, I could kind of sway one way or the other.
Nathan, what's your thoughts on Silent Hill?
This is your first watch. Of Silent.
This is my first watch of SilentHill.
Yes, there's a lot to love aboutthis movie.
I love how Silent Hill feels. I love that there is a fire
underground in that. That's why it's raining ash,

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which by the way, from what I understand, that's based on a
real town in Pennsylvania where a coal fire happened and it
like, it burned and started burning in 62 and it's still
burning. Yeah.
Yeah. That's what it Yeah.
I love the creature design. I like that the story goes on a
lot of twists and turns, but I do have some issues with this

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one. I think the acting is basically
terrible. Like, I especially do not like
the little girl when she's playing.
Sharon, honey, you're awake. Long drive.
When she's playing Alessa, she'sactually rather good.
I I think she works really well in in in creep mode.

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But when she's being a nice little girl, I think like, I
just go punch that baby. Yeah, I think a lot of the
dialogue is pretty bad. And I think it's 1/2 an hour to
40 minutes too long. Some of the special effects
aren't great, but I'll give it apass because 20 year old
technology. So I mean, like I said, there's

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a lot to like about this movie. I I do like the movie.
I just, there's stuff in there that made it hard for me to love
it. Yeah, I don't.
I don't love it. Do you think that this movie is
hindered by it being based on a video game?
Like do you think they could have had the ability to maybe

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tell a more like original story of what they wanted to?
Or do you think that they maybe should have stuck to the video
game promise more? Because I heard the video game
is really a more simple story. This movie is sort of structured
like a video game. I feel like that contributes to
its pacing problems. It's like a cutscene

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conversation followed by an exploration section followed by
an enemy encounter and it's likethat is a survival horror video
game. I haven't played the Silent Hill
games but like, that's Resident Evil.
I've played plenty of Resident Evil.
I understand that they went really far from the story of the

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original game. From what I've looked up,
apparent the protagonist of the original game is the husband
there Chris in the movie Harry or something like that.
Harry. Is his name in the game?
Yeah. Yeah.
So I don't know if one hindered the other.
I I do think that the structure of the story is, it's a

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structure to me that's better left to a video game in a lot of
ways. And I don't know if they were
trying to follow that structure,but they sort of ended up doing
so. I feel like it can go either
way. I agree with what you said.
I don't know. I also kind of liked that it was
structured like a survival horror video game because I also

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like those and it makes it kind of familiar.
And I also like the other elements of it being kind of
like a video game, like the map scene where she's like
memorizing the map. Look at this map.
Memorize it and memory may save your life, right?
You would totally have to do that in a survival horror game,
right? I do that all the time and it

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gave me anxiety watching it because I know how it feels to
be like OK if I don't remember this, like I'm gonna die I'm
screwed. So I thought that was cool.
But for the story itself, I've never played the games.
I really want to play them now, but I think they also took like
certain monsters like Pyramid Head is from the second game I

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believe. So it doesn't really have much
to do with the actual story. They just like came up with this
like thread that Pyramid Head was created by like dark Alessa
or Alessa to protect her when he's supposed to be created in
another game by a different character for a different
reason. Bits and bobs like that are a
little off, but they, I feel like they made it work good

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enough for the story they were going with.
Because one of the things I really did like about the story
were how like some of the monsters, like the janitor guy
who like raped her, he's that monster that has his mouth open
with the key in it or whatever. And I like that there's
retribution and revenge on thesemonsters and they're like a

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symbol of how they wronged her. So I really love the threads of
like vengeance and all that kindof stuff going on.
But then you get to something like Pyramid Head and it's like,
OK, he's really cool. And I feel like he is crucial to
the series being as big as it is.
Like he's one of the horror characters.
Like everybody knows even if youhaven't seen the movie, right?
Or played the games, yeah. Or played the games.

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Yeah, when you said you were choosing this, I was like this
Pyramid Head in there. I've never seen the movie or
played the games so. I think he's crucial to it.
I don't know. I think it works for what
they're going for. What did you think, Kevin?
I think for me, what I wonder right, is if this movie, it's
too big a scope sometimes. I was just wondering if they

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were trying to accomplish too much in this movie, trying to
appease the video game itself, trying to kind of create your
own original story off of it. Trying to include characters,
like you said from the video game, maybe making new
characters and things like that,and then trying to tell a story
that to me was convoluted at times.

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Like I wish it was just a simpler story because you have a
lot of settings within Silent Hill.
You have a lot of characters within Silent Hill.
Like I think it would for me served the movie better if it
was just a simpler story to go with it.
I have to disagree, but what were you going to say, Nathan?

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I was just going to say, I I didfeel like it was a little too
complicated on my first watch, but on my second watch I felt
like, OK, now that I know where this is going, I can sort of
piece together all the stuff I didn't understand the first time
I watched it. And that's something I really
like about it, to be honest withyou.
But what were you going to say, Jill?
Exactly that. Like I can, I can see what you

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mean, Kevin. Like there is a lot going on.
There's many different layers, like literal dimensions and then
you have Alessa and then you have like demon Alessa and then
you have Sharon. So there's like layers to a
person as well and there's just like so much going on.
But that's what kind of makes itlike stand out to me is the fact

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that I watched this like almost 20 years ago when it came out
and it really stuck with me. And I can still remember like
the main parts of the movie fromwhen I watched it back then.
But re watching it, I'm like still discovering more layers
and like, you know, like deeper themes.
Like I never realized like the janitor character and, and like,

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you know, the revenge and everything like when I watched
this when I was in high school. So like seeing it now, I'm like,
OK, this is actually deeper thanI remember it being.
Yeah, actually the janitor character was one of those
things I picked up on in my second watch.
Like my first watch was four days ago.
My second watch was today. I was like, why are they
focusing in on the call in name tag in this in this flashback or

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whatever. And then I go and watch it today
and I go, oh, it's because the guy who was he was ripped up by
the barbed wire in the bathroom.His name was Colin.
And this whole thing is about that incident in the bathroom.
She was murdered in the same place where he raped Alessa.

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One thing about that as well. So the guy who plays Pyramid
Head, Roberto Campanella, he plays Pyramid Head.
He plays the janitor, Colin. He's like a dancer.
Yeah, I didn't know. That OK.
A while ago I watched a YouTube video about the special effects
of this movie and it's really interesting.

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So the guy who plays both those characters is a dancer.
He's a choreographer, and you can really tell.
So he actually, I think, choreographed the nurses.
What I tried to do with the nurses was to be as close as I
could be with with the movement in the video game.
I got into the studio and knew exactly what I wanted.

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In this movie and you know, he did all the stuff with Pyramid
Head and call him when he's likecrawling on the floor, those
legs on his like head are prosthetics and he's like
crawling around with like green pants on and stuff and just the
way that green move. I get you.
Yeah, I think it's really an asset to the movie that he knows

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how to move and he's instructingall these people how to move
because it really makes a difference.
Like the nurses are one of the things you're going to remember
about this movie. Yeah, they're so creepy.
And I think that's, you know, part of his work and just the
way that he moves Colin, the waythat he moves Pyramid Head is
amazing. And he's actually in a lot of

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other movies choreographing stuff.
I think he did it chapter 2 in 2017.
I think he choreographed like clowns in there and really cool.
I I love that work. And I to me, that's one of my
like, favorite parts of this movie are the monster scenes
themselves. I think they're really done

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well. Creepy.
The nurses are terrifying, Yeah.And sexy.
And hot. That's what's terrifying about
it though. It's, you know, it, it makes it
scarier that they all have nice tits.
I, I, I don't know why it just does.
It does, you know. Love them, yeah.

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I get it, but also. You know why it's like when I
always talk about like nudity and horror and being like kind
of perfect relationship. That's why it's like, you know,
sexuality horror, like combiningand just like.
It's just exciting, like it's, yeah, different ends of

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excitement. It's.
Like the dopamine, just like. When I was in university on
Halloween night, I went to like my school's bar and we had a
costume contest. I remember one girl was dressed
up as a nurse from Silent Hill and she like got on stage and
like did all the movements because it was like a contest.

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Like you had to like, play your character.
I think she won. She was really good.
Like the costume was amazing. And those movements aren't easy
to do either. I.
I guarantee. It like I guarantee it.
I I can't do it. You know you need Roberto to
help. You.
Yeah, exactly. Well, like you said, was he also
choreographing the regular people?
Because I had some issues with the way the regular people moved

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in this. I don't think.
So just the monsters. I think the monsters really.
Great, but. They were.
There was a day where he wasn't on set and it was for one of the
scenes because they were trying to save money.
So I'm sure he wasn't there there like all the time doing
like all that stuff. But they actually had to like
refilm it or something because it was not going well.

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All I'm saying is, is that everytime that cop does anything,
it's like she's starting to posefor an Instagram picture.
OK. Cops don't move like that
anyway. That is Laurie Holden, who plays
Andrea and The Walking Dead. Oh yeah I was going to say she
looked familiar. That's why I was wondering

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though like if some of her movements were like video game
based too because of how she wasmoving.
I'm not crazy, you noticed it too.
Yeah, for sure. OK.
Like OK. So.
Yeah, maybe. I don't know.
Every time that she did anythingthat involved movement, she was
like sexing it up to like Amy McGann and you know what I'm

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saying? Like.
This you know what, though? This brings me to a big question
because you had brought it up, Nathan, about the acting not
being really good. And I agree with you.
I think Rose, Oh my God, like some of her lines were just whoa
do. Not believe her lies.
I come from a world outside thisplace.

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I come from a world full of life.
But here's my thing, Was she delivering the lines that way on
purpose to be like video game format?
Because like Jill said, some of the things that they did in this
were very video game specific. So if you have those scenes, you
got to have the acting in the inthe posing to go along with it,

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right? Yeah, I mean, I get, I guess I
get what you're saying. And and acting in video games
back then was not what it is nowwhere you have like actual A
listers playing characters in video games now.
Like the first Resident Evil actually had actual actors like
videos of actual actors for the cutscenes and it was dog shit it

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was so bad. Hey, come here.
You know, this is Oscar award-winning stuff compared to
those scenes. But oh man, now I've condemned
myself to having to find those scenes.
I'm sure they're on YouTube. So I mean, I guess it's, it's
possible you're right that they're sort of doing that on

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purpose. If that's the case, I don't like
the decision. The writer, Roger Avery, is a
Canadian. So also whenever I see this is
awful, this might say more aboutme than anything else, but every
time I see like Canadian media, I I know it's Canadian media

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because like the quality is likea little bit lower.
Like you can tell, I think a lotof this was done in Canada, but
it's also why I like it. It's not true of Cronenberg
stuff though, but that's. True, he's a different beast.
Yeah, that's the Cronenberg beast.
But so Roger Avery, he's Canadian and he worked on the
script for Pulp Fiction. It's funny because we just did

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From Dusk Till Dawn, so wow. OK.
Very cool. That's what I was thinking when
I was watching these scenes because like you said, like when
the monsters are on screen, that's like, I mean, all that
stuff looks really good. It's scary.
It reminds me too of a lot of the band Tool.
Like their videos? And stuff.
Yeah, yeah, I can see that for sure.

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With some of the monsters and like the how they move is just
very jarring. And yeah.
He got like the video for prisonsex or or schism.
Schism. Yeah, that's what I was thinking
of specifically. Or the one for anima it actually
there that's the the Anima area of tool videos is all the blue

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people. Yeah.
Actually, now that I think aboutit.
I, I love all that stuff and it's creepy and I mean, it's,
it's perfect for this atmosphere.
And this is what I want to get into because this atmosphere is
amazing. My favorite scene is when she
wakes up in her car and it's ashing.

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I mean, this is an iconic scene.That's.
Awesome. Yeah, it looks so cool.
And the sign is there, the Welcome to Silent Hill sign.
Yeah, it's in the mood. Yeah.
This is Chef I. Totally agree with that.
Yeah. Yeah, it's perfect.
There's not much else to say about it.
It was really well done. I loved that about.

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I love the way this whole city looks.
Barring some of the special effects, everything about the
way it looks is incredible. Yeah, There's something about a
deserted town that's just so eerie, is it not?
You know? Yeah.
And this like. Coal fire underground.
That's creepy as hell. That's scary, yeah.
Yeah, I really, I really love the scenes too, where Rose is

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investigating like some of thesebuildings and like shining a
light and just seeing like images and things like that.
It's just creepy. And video game S which are
scoring right. Yeah, you find the flashlight
after you find the key, and thenyou know the.

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Cool news together. And actually Pyramid himself
reminds. Has either of you played
Resident Evil 2? No, there's a character in
Resident Evil 2 that just you cannot kill, but he follows you
around and you have to run away from him.
And yeah, yeah, he follows you around basically the entire

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game. And Pyramid had reminded me of
that. Like, just you can't kill this,
Do not fight. You have to run away.
Yeah. And you also have to get stuff
done while you're running away from Mr. X in Resident Evil 2.
They kind of I don't want to sayruin Pyramid Head in the in the
second movie, the sequel to this, because he's not really a

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bad guy anymore. What?
Because I don't want to spoil it, but but yeah, he becomes
like a good guy. So he's like, but he's still
sexy. So like, I don't know.
I love them, I love them. I love the nurses.
It gives me by panic for real. I do know that the second one
has like an 8% on Rotten Tomatoes.

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I actually, I actually fucking love the second one.
There's something wrong with me.I I know, I know.
I'm like, nobody likes that movie at all.
But. Me.
That's all right. No, listen, you like what you
like get. A I like Pyramid Head.
Yeah, that's right. I was going to understand that
he seems your type. He's got, like, veiny hands.

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I want him to impale me on his big sword.
Yeah. I was going to say that giant
sword does it for you, you know.Yes, he's shirtless.
He's strong. I want him to drag me and like
do whatever and he doesn't have a face.
That's like even better. I love monster fucking.
Still need to see the shape of water though.
Yes I do. Oh, also Roberto I he

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choreographed that movie as well.
Oh, did he really? Yeah.
OK, that's cool. That's cool.
That should make you want to watch it even more now.
Yeah, he's got a type too. I thought like some of these
scenes where Rose is going around to the buildings were
really cool. I think though, this comes down
to a little like the pacing issue that I had.

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Similarly with Nathan here. There's just too much of this
for like, I don't mind a little bit of it, but it seemed to go
on pretty pretty long. It's an hour and 15 minutes
before you figure out what this movie is actually about.
That's true. A lot of that stuff is good and
interesting, but at some point it's like I, I feel like we're
not actually moving the story forward anymore.

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It works in a video game. Again, we keep going back to the
video game thing. I but because like you're
interacting and you're playing and like you're exploring and
you're doing this, whereas it's different.
This is more like watching somebody else play a video game
where they find the key, then they find the flashlight and
that gives them access to the other door and blah blah blah,

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you know, and then Pyramid Head shows up.
Today's generation might like that, though, because they're
really into watching people stream video games.
Yeah, but they're going to have their phone open while they
watch Silent Hill, so it'll be just like streaming.
You're doing something else. It's funny you mention that
because they took this same concept and put it to a newer

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horror movie in in a Violent nature which has a lot of that
same vibes too of like watching watching a video game play out
following the killer. Exactly as boring as your
average video game streamer, if you ask me.
But anyway. Shots fired God Youtubes coming

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for us. I know, I know.
That's all right. I think this movie, one of the
good things too, is it felt a little ahead of its time with
the with the two female protagonists here leading the
charge. Because, you know, not many
movies overall, not even just horror movies, had two female
protagonists. Kind of.

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I know, I know Sybil was kind ofthe the side character, but they
both were in it for a while, kind of, yeah.
Going through things. How did you like both of them?
Sybil was such an important character and I kind of love
their dynamic because Rose in the very beginning has like a
very a cab like perspective. Like she doesn't give this cop a

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chance, right? Like no.
She sees her and she like just gets in her car and goes away
and then she like does illegal shit in front of the cop, which
is like a terrible idea. And then she also says something
like fuck you you stupid cop or something like that.
Yes. Fuck you stupid cop, that was a
good guy. I liked that.
But they end up just like doing the thing together and civil.

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I love civil because first of all, she saved a boy like
earlier they talk about from like a mine shaft.
And then she's also helping Roseand, like, sacrifices herself so
that Rose can go down the elevator and then also, like,
tries to save her kid and then, like, actually sacrifices
herself in, like, pretty gruesome, but like, pretty

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badass death, you know, like, the witch thing being like,
slowly lowered onto a pyre and you see your skin melting and
shit. Yeah.
That was. Rough.
She's such a good heroine, though.
I, I, I loved her and she lookedhot and she had like the short
blonde hair and that was just like so of the era.
I feel like like also. She was really hot.

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Just putting this out there. Why did she pull the fucking
trigger in that situation at theelevator?
Oh yeah. Why did she do that?
She had them believing that she had bullets and then just
decided to. I don't have bullets.

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I'm just going to let you know and let you.
What would she then, though? Furthermore, why didn't you get
that elevator? She could have gotten in the
elevator. There was nothing stopping her
from getting in the elevator. They weren't going to chase her.
No, they were afraid of down there.
I'm sorry. That anyway.
I agree with you. I was.
Just I don't want to make too big a deal out of it.

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But it was bad storytelling. I was upset too, because I cared
about Sybil, like, yeah, you know, because they were really
coming together here. And then it was like, no, go
save your kid. I'm like, no, what are you
doing? No, you.
Don't fucking in this. Nothing's stopping you from
getting into the elevator. You got a gun at them.

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I didn't want to leave. Anywhere.
Yeah, I like Sibil a lot. Rose, on the other hand, I
thought was dumb as a box of rocks.
The verdict is guilty on all 10 counts of first degree
stupidity. That's failing Rose.
I didn't really like Rose either.
She's not. Yeah.
I like simple better than Rose. Oh yeah, 100% simple.
Way better than Rose. First of all, if your kid is

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going through some mental healthcrisis and she keeps saying
Silent Hill, Silent Hill, my first reaction is not to take
that child to Silent Hill because there's she's having a
mental health crisis, not a Silent Hill crisis.
Like, and then like the town's on fire.

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Like why are you taking your kidto a town that's on fire?
Like this seems stupid and dangerous.
You say you love your kid and you're trying to help her, but
like you took her to a town that's on fire.
And then the whole thing where you're like roses, like kind of
a cab and and she does somethingillegal in front of the yeah,
why did she do that? To propel the story.

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That's exactly. It's not.
That's the whole movie. It was stupid.
It was a stupid thing for her todo.
This begs the question, does does Rose also have a mental
illness? I think so because I don't know,
I'm stuck between two theories about Silent Hill.
Let's hear. I need to research this.
So the fact that like the different dimensions and like

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when the cops and the dad show up, like they can't find them
because they're in like a different dimension, is that
because Silent Hill is like a purgatory situation and they're
like dead now? That's what I thought first.
But then I also got like mentally ill vibes and I was
like, maybe the only people who can see it are people who are

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fucked up. But also I think they do have.
Do they die? The mom die?
Like who's dead? I mean, that ending leaves it
extremely ambiguous, I think. I think either one of those
theories is entirely plausible. The mother gets into a car
accident. Both of them could have died in

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that car accident. Rose and Sharon and then Sybil.
At the end they show her motorcycle on the ground all
smashed up and she is bleeding from the head.
So she could have died in her motorcycle accident that she
obviously had. So I don't know.
It's possible all three of them are are just fucking dead.

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That's so fucking bleak man Ending.
That's what I was thinking though too.
My thoughts were Rose is the only one with the mental
illness, not the kid. And really it was in Rose's mind
that this kid is doing all this Silent Hill like daydreaming
stuff because I, I know the kid doesn't remember anything and

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that's part of sleepwalking and things like that.
But like, to me it's, it could be something that Rose is kind
of blowing out of proportion because she's mentally unstable.
She's taking her daughter Sharonin the car with the cop
situation. The cops like probably trying to
like stop her from taking the kid because.

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It's a bad fucking place. Which is.
The practical thing to do, actually.
Right. Yeah, this is a mentally
unstable situation and there's an accident and they all die and
this is like a purgatory they'reall stuck in now.
The issue with this theory, I'm not saying it's not true, I like
the theory, is that when Chris, her husband and that other cop

(36:21):
head into Silent Hill they do not find their bodies which they
went in the same way. Did they find?
Their car bodies in that car. Did they find the car?
I don't. I don't know if we saw them find
the car. Sir, this man's wife was driving
the Jeep. Yeah, they said it was empty.
Right. OK, yeah, so they're so dead,

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bodies don't exactly get up and walk away, you know, that's.
True. I mean.
Depends on the movie. Depends on the movie.
That is true. That is true.
It's all you're right. Pretty ambiguous.
I need someone to like, do a deep, deep dive on this for us
and yeah, what's up? Yeah, where's film theory?

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I don't know if they're going todo this one.
I know we kind of touched on theending a little bit, but what's
your thoughts on the ending? It paints this picture that Rose
and Sharon right don't leave Silent Hill.
There's a whole story where we find out about Alessa and and
Sharon. Sharon is Alessa's daughter.

(37:29):
Did I understand that correctly?I don't think so.
I don't think so. She's.
Not your child, she's. I think because video game
logic, right, If you think of ittoo much like a movie, it's hard
to like think about it being real.
But like in a video game when you're like, oh, I split my
soul, like right, You believe that shit like right, like so

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she she split her soul and made Sharon and then the demon came
also. And then in the end they all
became the same. They all diverged into.
Sharon. Oh, Sharon is the physical
manifestation of the good part of Alessa The.
Little girl is what's left of her goodness.

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Yeah, OK, yeah. So you know what confused me?
Was Alessa being raped, Right. And I thought she was pregnant
or no. That's that's never alluded to
as far as I know. She's.
Not your child. Hers.
That could be like an interpretation though.
Like, yeah, I can see that beingan interpretation.

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I thought there was a. Scene in the movie where the X
in the exposition dump of Alessa, she was explaining how
they gave the baby to the orphanage.
No, the the Alessa gave the babyto the orphanage, not not the
hospital. But that's what I was thinking.
It was Alessa's baby which was Sharon.
I, I, I mean, I, I could see that being a theory.

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She's. Not your child, he's hers.
But this is. What I thought happened.
Oh, OK, OK, yeah. We need this explained to us.
Please, I, I I honestly do thinkthat Sharon is just the physical
manifestation of the good part that split from Alessa in this
weird purgatory world and then the bad.

(39:17):
Or it's not even the bad part. What what?
What is the? I don't know.
Like the like the dark part I. Think the dark part of Alessa.
So I think that's like a demon. So I think when Alessa split,
this also gives me like makes mego down a whole fucking rabbit
hole of like mental illness and like splitting.
Splitting personalities and. Stuff.

(39:40):
Yeah, or borderline or like anything like that.
So I get a lot of mentally ill vibes from this movie.
So, yeah, the the splitting, I think when she was so angry
about all the things, all the bad things that happened to her,
she wished a lot of dark things.And this demon kind of
encroached on her because she was very vulnerable.
And then they like created this pact, you know, and kind of

(40:03):
became the same thing. They suggested that in the
hospital a little bit in that flashback, didn't they?
I think so, like all. Or, or you could just interpret
it as they the two parts of Alessa are herself split.
Yeah. You know when she says like the
demon is like, I have many names.
I have many names. Right now I'm the dark part of

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Alessa. Right.
But right now I'm the dark part of Alessa, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, so many things. So many things.
Well so I'm I'm learning things following this.
Well, I mean a lot. All of that is kept pretty
ambiguous, and I kind of like that about it.
Yeah, No, no, I hear you. I think for me, emotion wise and

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feeling like connected to some characters, it would have helped
me a little bit versus being a little convoluted here because
like, why do I care? Why do I care about Sharon?
Why do I care about Rose? You know, that's that's where
I'm trying to pull the connections out of.
So that's why I thought that that was.

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Also at the end when Rose is holding Sharon saying close your
eyes, close your eyes, close your eyes and she opens her eyes
and then Alessa comes up the ladder and kind of just reaches
and then it fades to black. I feel like that is suggesting
that they have now recombined into one person.

(41:33):
The dark side as well as the thegood part of Alessa have
combined into one person. We also have to talk about the
barbed wire scene at the end there, by the way.
All right. We're gonna talk about the
ending. We.
We. Gotta talk about.
Massacre we not specifically thebarbed wire, you know, but.
With the CGI. And that.

(41:53):
Yeah, yeah. I read that there were nine
companies they used for special effects, so both practical and
like CG. And I think that really shows
because I saw that the people who did the nurses did like all
the good stuff, like with the janitor and like Pyramid Head,
and the people who did like the like the molten children in the

(42:16):
beginning did like all the shitty looking stuff.
Then you had the people who did the roaches.
So it was a lot of different, a lot of cooks in the kitchen.
That's the way those molten children looked.
But I just wish it I liked, I liked the design.
I just wish it looked better from a technical aspect.

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You know what I'm trying to say?Yeah, look good in 2025.
No, no, I know. I'm not saying I like them.
I'm saying I would like them if they were the same, but better,
you know? Yeah.
Yeah, the concept is there for sure.
Like it's just not executed properly.
And Joe, like you just sparked that in my head because like to

(43:02):
me, 5050 for me on this, like some of the effects I love and
then some of them are just like the barbed wire here at the end.
It's just like why? Why, why?
I don't know, maybe I'm blinded by the fact that I love to the
barbed wire conceptually, that I'm just like, Nah, Nah, it's
fine. Yes, it looks like shit, but.

(43:23):
It's fine. It's.
Fine. Yeah.
Like when that when that? That's the errors rises, I know,
but when that hospital bed risesout of the floor and there's
barbed wire going everywhere, bythe way, the burn victim makeup
looked practical and also like shit there.
So yeah, I don't, I don't know, but.

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Mixed bag here. But I thought that was epic.
I I loved. And then some of the kills were
like, OK, but the way they looked.
But they were all conceptually great and I loved that about it.
I agree all the concepts are great.
One thing I also liked about it was like the layering of the

(44:07):
world's and when you could see it, like going into the other
world or the dark, Yeah. And then going back to the
regular world. I thought that was cool.
But I also got kind of like EvilDead vibes from like the
supernatural portion, like the hospital bed thing you're
talking about right now. And like the dark Alessa gave me
like Evil Dead like. She's dancing in the blood

(44:29):
there. I love that the little dance she
does in the blood rain. Same thing.
And I read that actually, I think Sam Raimi was trying to
get rights to make this movie, but he didn't get it.
So that's really interesting. That would have been cool.
I think he would have done a better job to be honest with
you, but. I want, I would like to see what
he would do honestly. Yeah, me too.

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But the guy who directed this movie is actually supposedly
directing a third movie that's coming out next year, by the
way. Oh, I've returned to Silent
Hill. Yeah, yeah.
I really like the when you're talking about the like it
turning to the dark and like I liked the impending doom of the
darkness coming and like the purge horn going off.

(45:13):
The purge horn was great, yeah. Fucking terrifying dude.
Like I can't, I can't deal with it, be so scared.
That's why Pyramid had, I kind of wanted more of like this
impending doom with him, like following around and stuff,
because it's like he's always kind of where you're going to be
and and and stuff like that. So because I think that would

(45:35):
have played out better and that's what I wanted to see more
of was stuff like that needs. More needs more Pyramid Head,
more nurses. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, for sure. No, Pyramid Head did feel a
little bit like he should have been more important to the story
than he was. Like when he kills Anna there,
it's like. Oh my God.
That was gnarly. We're off her skin, Yeah.

(45:59):
He her whole body shocked. Her.
Like corn. Corn on the gun.
But like, that's the end of Pyramid Head at that point that
you don't see him again. You you have two encounters with
him where he's just a big scary guy and that's it.
It doesn't. It feels like you could have
replaced him in the story with something else and it wouldn't

(46:22):
have changed much other than Jill wouldn't have been
attracted to the monster, Maybe.I don't know.
Yeah. Yeah, you know what?
You know what too? I I really felt like the husband
and the detective going around was like a needless fucking no.
Nobody cares. Nobody cares it it's this movie

(46:42):
is too long and all of that should have been cut out because
it does not matter, but. It's Sean Bean.
I know it's Sean Bean and I loveSean Bean but he didn't do
anything. All Rose did was yell Sharon and
all Sean Bean there Chris did was yell Rose and and like
that's their entire characters. Yeah, I love Kim Coates, who

(47:04):
plays the detective. He was one of my favorite
characters on Sons of Anarchy. Amazing actor.
I thought he was going to play abigger role in this.
I know they did the thing where,yeah, he showed the burns
because he had saved. He saved Alyssa from YEAH dying
in the fire. But then he didn't use that at
all. I I thought either like he was

(47:25):
going to be a bad guy and and beinvolved in everything or he was
going to be this good guy and help out at the end but nothing.
Happened. Yeah, that's just the end of it.
Chris just goes home. That whole plot came to nothing
and was needless for no reason. Listen, if my kid is missing,

(47:47):
you're going to have to put me in jail to keep me out of there.
You're going to have to, you're going to have to put me on fire
to keep me out of there. Like I'm not just going home and
chilling out, taking a little nap on the couch.
Yeah, I think 99% of dads will tell you that, you know, and the
other 1% are the deadbeats who aren't there in the 1st place.

(48:08):
So you know. Dang, you're not wrong.
I'm not a dad and I know I've heard this from all the dads.
So it's bullshit, even if you know, even if you told me your
your brother, your sister, whatever your family like is
you're just going to go home andsit on the couch and it's like.

(48:30):
Yeah, this cop didn't seem to bedoing much either.
I don't know. That whole plot line could have
been cut out and I'd have been fine with it.
I got to say too, trusting a church is never a good idea,
right? Especially in a movie.
I mean, I'm not trying to start a religious thing here.
We might as well. Are you going to try and say
Alessa's mom is also partly responsible for what happened to

(48:51):
Alessa? Because I felt that way.
You know how that feels, don't you, Rose?
To lose your little girl? What?
Have I done both of the moms arethey're like mirror images of
each other? Oh yeah.
They're spoils, you're right, but in the end it doesn't matter

(49:12):
because their kids love them so much that they're going to
forgive them because mother is fucking God in the eyes of a
child. Or something like that.
Mother is God in the eyes of a child, taken straight from the
crow. Mother is the name for God on
the lips and hearts of all children.
Holy shit man, I have I have that as my quote or kill and I

(49:33):
said better in the crow. Oh my God, I forgot about that.
Yeah, naked. Mother is the name for God on
the lips of every child, or something like that I believe.
Mother is the name for God on the lips and hearts of all
children. And then he takes the morphine.
Morphine is bad. And then?

(49:57):
Drops it and. Then.
And then he fucking takes a a knife to every single one of Fun
Boy's organs. That's right, that's right.
That's where that happens. God I love that movie.
Talk. Me too.
Yeah. Can we do it?
At some point, yeah, yeah. I'm also hugely attracted to

(50:18):
Brandon Lee. That's understandable.
Also, that being the crow that eats the eyeball.
My God she is gorgeous. Yeah, scared of her and it's.
A thing. It is the theme of the night.
Yeah. I need to know why there is a
tattoo shop in the gas station. First of all, did you guys see

(50:41):
that? I didn't know.
I didn't see that. Maybe I blocked it out because
that wouldn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense.
Go back and look and you'll finda tattoo like light sign in the
gas station. It's like also a restaurant and
you can get tattoos there. It's like one stop shop.
Yeah, well, maybe it's just the only shop in that town anywhere

(51:02):
near anything and they just. Got to be a strip mall.
Yeah, it's got to be a Jack of all trades sort of deal, you
know. Kevin, you kind of talked about
the setting a little bit. I also want to talk about it
like the setting of West Virginia, I think is really
paramount here for the spooky tone because it's remote.
It's in the Appalachian Mountains, which is already
steeped in creepy folklore. It's just like mysteries of what

(51:26):
lies in the mountains. And then also you have this like
abandoned cool town with like the fire underneath I think.
I don't know, the setting is just so scary to me.
Yeah, It also makes me want to see what Centralia is like, but
I'm probably not going to do that because I from what I
understand, it's not particularly safe to be there.
Oh damn. Real, not particularly safe to

(51:49):
be there, unlike other ghost towns where it's just creepy
looking, you know? If there's a chance of a Pyramid
Head, I might have to take the road trip.
Right, right. It's in Pennsylvania, you said,
right? Yeah.
Yeah, it's in like the middle ofPennsylvania.
That's one of the reasons I really like Silent Hill as well,
is because that's such like a Pennsylvania thing, like cool

(52:09):
towns and like abandoned, like mines and stuff.
It's just cool. Did you also see Nathan Drugs
several times? No, the sign in the town.
Nathan Drugs. Yeah.
Nathan's own drugs, a whole bunch of.
Yeah, I was on there like at least twice in different parts
of the movie. Oh, I thought that was cool.
I got my drugs. You have Nathan's drugs.

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We. Didn't really talk about like
the soundtrack. It's good, I heard they pulled
the songs right out of the videogame.
Is that true? I.
Have no idea. That's what I thought I read.
I don't know, I haven't played the game.
I mean, because that's cool. But yeah, that's what I, that's
what I saw is they pulled the the songs right out of the video

(52:51):
game and it worked like, and they also had similar shots in
the movie as in the video game and things like that.
Oh yeah. People who love the video game
really rave about, like you said, the soundtrack and a lot
of the shots were very similar to to the video game itself.
It also like like a little bit of the industrial feel kind of

(53:13):
reminded me of Resident Evil. Resident Evil had like the most
banging soundtrack ever. You know, I've never seen any of
the Resident Evil movies either.What the hell?
Oh, what the helly I? Know I I just I avoid movies
based on video games I think. These are like my favorite.
I think I'm like, I still have trauma from seeing the the Super

(53:37):
Mario Brothers movie when I was a child because that was the
worst thing I'd ever seen in my life as a kid and I have not
changed my mind about that. It is not a good movie.
Did you see the newer 1? Yeah, it was OK.
Yeah, it's good. I didn't mind it.
OK. I didn't think it was great
either, but I'd rather watch a Disney Pixar movie than that.

(53:58):
But Oh my God. There was a an early 2000s
horror movie called Stay Alive. Which that is like one of my
favorite fucking movies from theearly 2000s.
Two. Yeah.
And Elizabeth Bathory. Yes, Elizabeth Bathory, Right?
Yeah. Oh, we're going on a deep dive
right now. I think that also came out in

(54:20):
2006. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I could around that time. Sophia Bush was in it.
Yes, it was a survival horror game movie.
That one I really liked. It's not a real game though.
No, I wish. Yeah.
It was so scary. I was obsessed with everything
Elizabeth Bathory back in the day.
I bet there was like a whole Cradle Of Filth concept album

(54:45):
about her, and I was just freaking obsessed.
And I was just so happy when they made that movie.
Yeah, that's a little little gemin the rough, I think, but I
haven't seen it in a while, so Idon't know.
Oh my God, we have to do it. The part where the room starts
melting looked pretty bad, but it was.
But I liked that. I liked that the room was

(55:06):
melting also, Rose says. It's happening again.
It's happening again in that part, and I can never hear those
words without thinking of that one scene in Twin Peaks Season 2
where it starts happening again and the giant comes to Dale

(55:28):
Cooper and it's like it's happening again.
It is happening again. It is happening again.
You're going to play the clip right on this video.
Now I have to search through Twin Peaks.

(55:49):
I I don't know which episode it is.
You'll find it. I've go condemned myself for
looking for it. I know Nathan had touched on
that there's going to be a new movie coming out, but would you
want to see a remake of this? I almost always say no to
remakes, but this is the kind ofmovie where I feel like it's

(56:09):
totally ripe for a remake because there's so much stuff
that I love about this movie, but there's a lot that's holding
it back. If you just cleaned up a lot of
the issues I had with it, you could take this concept in this
story and make like a 4 1/2 starmovie.

(56:30):
To me, Hollywood is always remaking movies that are already
perfect and don't need to be updated.
Take something like this and update it and make it better
instead. Joe, what do you think?
I'm excited to see what they do with the new one.
I know it's already finished, itjust needs to come out.
I'm wondering how they will spinthis one.

(56:51):
To me, I think that would be better than a whole remake, just
with like, seeing like 28 years later come out and you know,
it's not a remake. It's just like kind of a updated
sequel. I think that would probably work
really well for Silent Hill because to me, there's like a
lot of nostalgia there and I don't know if I want to see it
like get really polished, you know what I mean?

(57:13):
So I don't know, I'm just scared, but if someone made a
remake and it was really good I wouldn't be bad.
I think this is definitely one of those movies I'd love to see
a remake of. A lot of what I like is there
and I think you can take it to the next level for sure.
I get what you're saying to Jill, like because it has that,

(57:34):
that feel and and stuff like that.
And you don't want to lose that.It's it's important to what this
is too. So it's tough.
It's time for a quote or kill. We're going to give you our
favorite quote of the movie or our favorite kill in the movie
or both. I already talked about mine.
It's funny, Nathan, that you brought it up with The Crow
because as soon as I heard it, Iwas like, that's, that's Eric

(57:57):
Draven right there. Mother is God in the eyes of a
child. Right.
And the the crow one, like I said, his mother is the name for
God and the lips and hearts of all children.
Sentimental. Very.
What isn't sentimental though, is my favorite kill, and it's
it's Pyramid Head just ripping that poor girl's skin right off.

(58:18):
That is my favorite kill as well.
That's what I've got written down for my it's, it's, it's
fucking great. He takes off her clothes.
Just all in one swoop. First, too, you know, also, I
didn't like her. I didn't like her at all.
Yeah, You know, I didn't even understand, like, when I first
watched it, why she would deserve it.

(58:39):
I mean, like, we're not sure about that, which character yet.
She could be a bad person. Up to that point.
I still, I just didn't like her.Something about her rubbing me
the wrong way. Exactly.
She was throwing stones. You know your cast.
Literally. Right.
Yeah. Not a good person.
Did she deserve that death? I don't know.

(59:00):
Yeah, but it's in my mind forever.
It is like one of the best, one of the best horror deaths.
I've seen it quite some time. Just throws her.
Skin at the. Door at the door.
And they get blood all over themtoo.
Oh my goodness. Oh my God, how about you?
Gloving the whole body what you said to gloving the whole body

(59:23):
just. I think that was my favorite
kill as well. OK, cool.
Like I didn't really remember that happening and I was just
like, holy shit. Like they did that, they did
that. Sybils death was kind of cool
too, Just like how you know, sacrificial it was, how selfless
it was that you know she had to go through all of this and just
end up dying like a horrible death in front of the child Also

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is like really fucked up. Yeah, that's pretty fucked up.
I have a couple of quotes mostlytying into like the themes of
vengeance and and stuff like that and content 1 was.
You should be careful how you fight evil, your weapons and
turn back on you. Your weapons can turn back on

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you. Your hate starts to change the
world. And I love that, too.
Like Alaska's hatred, like is literally burning inside of her
because she is burning. And I think that's like a great,
like, representation of that. But also when they're talking
about like the cult, I think Rose says, burn me.
That's your answer. Burn anything you're afraid of.

(01:00:29):
Burn anything you can't control.God.
Is not here. And then she says God is not
here, and then she gets stabbed.I think that's crazy, but yeah.
Did you have a quote, Nathan? I liked when Alessa's mom whose
name I forget, I think they mostly just call her the witch.

(01:00:50):
Dalia. Dalia, yeah, they mostly just
call her the witch for most of the movie, right?
She says fire doesn't cleanse itblackens that.
I I just liked that because, youknow, she has this trauma
connected to the fire and all that.
And I thought there was kind of a lot of cringe dialogue in this

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movie and that one. It was like it was almost like
on the borderline of that, but it worked really well for me.
You know, I, I also, I forgot tosay one of the things that
didn't work for me is, is Rose walking into that church and
just like what your plan was like that you were going to just

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convince them that they were wrong.
It's, it's a cult. It's.
Like, but wait a minute. You're going to walk into the
Jehovah's Witness building and just be like, listen, not true.
None of this. This is like.
In fairness, in fairness though,this was a this was Alessa's

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idea. This was not Rosa's idea.
I, I know, I know, but. I think Alessa she.
Wanted to just quote. She kind of reminded me of that.
Well, she was like, also possessed at this point, right
by the demon. Yeah.
The demon needed a way to get into the church.
So I don't know how much of thatis Rose and how much of that is

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the demon. Just like.
I guess right? I know that Alessa merged with
Rose in that scene in the in thebasement there, but I never was
under the impression that Rose'sactions were controlled by
Alessa in that way. But I guess I hear what?
Yeah, you could be right. It just seemed personal.

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Yeah. Of course, they also have her
daughter, so that's pretty personal, but you know.
Anne's In theory, I thought thiswas all part of the plan, that
she knew that that evil church lady was going to like Stabber
or whatever, and then blood would be spilled and she would
be able to, I guess, resurrect. Yeah, there's an evil plan by
the demon. I like the evil plan.

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Mitch, I like the evil demon. She was so creepy.
Put the barbed wire up of edge here and there, you know.
You're in there everywhere. To each their own.
It's time for our final rating. We're gonna rate this movie from
one to five stars. 5 is the sexydemon nurses. 1 is the bad CGI.
You know what? Let's switch things up.
Nathan, you go first. Yeah, I'm gonna go three stars.

(01:03:19):
There's a lot to like about this, and we talked a lot about
the stuff that I really enjoyed about this movie.
I just think there's also a lot that needs to be cleaned up
before I'm able to love some something like this.
You know, the pacing is a littlerough.
Some of the logic didn't work for me.
Some of the dialogue didn't workfor me.

(01:03:40):
But I I liked it overall. I think it's, I think it's a
good movie. And yeah, three stars.
You know what, Nathan? I'm gonna jump in with you. 3
stars for me also. Yeah, I'm pretty.
I'm pretty like right in the middle here.
I don't think this is a bad movie at all.
I think it was fun for the most part.
Some scary scenes that are ingrained in my head forever.

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You know, the bad stuff is like some of the effects.
The acting was not great for me.The story was a little
convoluted at times. I wanted just a more simpler
story because I liked a lot of the characters I liked.
The atmosphere is great. It's so close for me to being
like really, really good. MM Hmm.

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So I mean, so that's why I said I really wouldn't mind a remake
of this. But overall, I think it's worth
a watch. If you haven't seen this movie.
I think it's really worth a watch because there is a lot to
like with Silent Hill. Jill, finish this up.
I am aware that, you know, there's a lot of cheesy stuff in
this movie, but I don't really care.

(01:04:45):
It's. Understandable.
Because for some reason it just kind of works for me.
But I think everything else about it is pretty Immaculate.
Like the gore is there creativity.
I think the storyline is good. I think there's a lot going on.
I think it's truly like terrifying, actually.
Like this is one of the movies that I remember like being

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scared of. And that's the reason I haven't
played any of the games yet is because I'm fucking terrified.
Like I would not do well. And I love that there's just
like chicks doing bad ass shit for like an early 2000s movie.
I think 2006 was that year, bitch, because you got, and in
this movie you got creepy kids drawing stuff, which is like

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such a thing in early 2000 horror movies.
You got a creepy orphan. Also really big in early 2000s
where you have like this lost and corrupt civilization, we
have vengeance, we have like anti religious commentary and
it's inspired by a video game. And I think a lot of it just

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work for me regardless of the things that even like I know
make it not perfect. I just love all the little
nuances of it. So I'm going to give Silent Hill
4 1/2 stars because it's just, it's just one of those movies
that I hold dear. For sure.
I mean, and this movie apparently has been getting a

(01:06:08):
little bit of a reassessment from, like, the general public
lately. Yeah, Yeah.
That's like, a lot of people hated it when it came out,
including Silent Hill fans, because it doesn't follow the
story of the first game or whatever.
But I guess in the past decade or so, people have been coming
back to it and going, yeah, you know, actually.

(01:06:30):
That's right. I don't, I don't think, I don't
think you're alone in this. For sure you like what you like,
you know, and, and there is a lot to like in this movie.
I think it's like kind of an iconic watch because I think
like Nathan said, it's being talked about more and more and I
think it's it's becoming a part of pop culture.

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I think we need to see more sexydemon nurses.
Yes, I did like the sexy demon nurses.
Yeah. And the heels, like they didn't
have to do the heels. No, they didn't have to do the
heels. Yeah, we didn't talk about the
red nurse. Oh, the red nurse.
She was sexy. Yeah, Yeah, she was.
Why is everybody in this movie sexy?
This is true and you got Sean Bean.

(01:07:13):
Yeah, well, Sean Bean's a sexy guy.
I mean, his character wasn't particularly.
Sexy but. You know, yeah.
Old Ned Stark. Yeah, little Ned Stark, you
know. Bang, even the church.
Lady. Yeah, even the church lady, she
looked good for an older lady, you know.
Yeah, and she was kind of creepyas well.
Yeah, yeah, she had that going on too.

(01:07:35):
Yeah, everyone's got it going on.
Yeah. We have a type here on straight
jacket tag. Sure, do put us in a
straitjacket. And it's all of the.
We're fucked up. The type is everybody I guess.
Before we end the episode, we want to let you know what we've
been up to lately. I've watched one more John
Carpenter movie. I'm on my path.

(01:07:58):
I'm on my path to watching them all.
I watched Cigarette Burns, whichwas a movie for Toby.
I didn't plan this out. I think it was Toby.
It's a it's ATV movie. It was about 50 minutes long.
It was a movie starring Norman Reedus.
It's a cool concept because it'sabout a really rich guy who's

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played by, and I forget his name, Udu.
He's a very creepy character actor, but he plays like this
rich guy who basically pays Norman Reedus to find this movie
that is a movie. It's only been shown once and
apparently a bunch of people died and it has like a fallen

(01:08:39):
Angel on screen and and things like that.
So it's like a cursed movie, andNorman Reedus has to go through
kind of this journey to find themovie.
And I thought it was really good.
I gave it three stars on my letterbox.
It wasn't very Carpenter asked for me.
And I gotta say, the biggest problem I had with it, and I

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hate to say it, is Norman Reedus.
Like he just didn't work for me.Yeah.
Everybody loves that guy. I know.
Have you ever heard of Death Stranding?
I've heard. Of that.
Game okay, starting to play thisyeah he is.
He's in the first one. The first one came out like 6 or

(01:09:21):
seven years ago at this point. Okay.
Yeah, yeah. Second ones coming out soon.
Did it just come out? Maybe.
I think it did. I never played the first one so.
Yeah, I think he's in it too. Yeah, no, he's he's on the cover
art with the baby for the secondone as well.
The baby's a little grown up nowcuz in the first one he's

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carrying around a baby. Yeah.
It's he's got like an artificialwomb that he carries around that
has like a fetus in it, Dang. The games are so weird, like
especially after talking about Silent Hill Ohio my God.
Well, this is Japanese games. Japanese games especially, yeah,
that's what it is. They're so deep.

(01:10:03):
Silent Hill is Japanese, obviously.
Hideo Kojima. He's the one who did Death
Stranding. Have you played it?
No, I haven't. Feel like it's up your alley?
Yeah, maybe I heard about like the beginning and what the
beginning is, and I was like, that sounds boring.
OK, so have you played it? I know, but I've been watching

(01:10:25):
Anthony play it. So.
Yeah, I'm, I'm like, I watched all the cinematics and stuff.
I know what's going on. Yeah.
Kojima does a lot of cinematics.So yeah, I appreciate a good
cinematic play. World of Warcraft I just
totally. Derail.
Yeah, I'm sorry. No, no, no.

(01:10:45):
I like listening to you talk about video games.
I myself do not play any video games, so I cannot add any other
conversation. One of these episodes I'm gonna
shock you and have a video game that I've been playing.
Yeah, Angry Birds gonna be MarioKart, Yeah.
The other movie I watched for the first time ever was The

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Return of the Living Dead from 1985.
Pretty big cult classic horror movie that I'd never seen
before. It has our boy Nathan from
Friday the 13th Part 5, The Enchiladas demon.
Yep. Damn enchiladas.
So damn enchiladas. Yeah, Michael A Nunez junior.

(01:11:31):
He he plays a big role in in this movie.
It was cool to see him. The actor Tom Matthews, who
plays Tommy Jarvis in Friday 13th Part 6 is in this movie as
well. So it's, oh wow, it's kind of
cool. Of course you have Linnea
Quigley who's naked for like most of this movie, which is

(01:11:51):
pretty amazing. I gave it 3 1/2 stars.
I'm not a huge zombie fan myself, but this one is really
entertaining. They leaned heavy into the camp
stuff on this. I recommend it, it's a blast.
It's a fun time. The last movie I saw leaning
heavily into the camp is Uncle Sam from 1996.
I saw this on your letterbox, soI was like what the fuck?

(01:12:15):
Yeah. This is the 4th of July slasher.
So next year when you're got your BBQ going after the BBQ,
put on Uncle Sam from 1996. It's a It's a slasher about a a
war veteran who's disgruntled and come back from the dead to
have his revenge, and he wears an Uncle Sam costume.

(01:12:36):
I did see that on your litter box 3.
Three stars. It's fond that's.
Yeah, there you go. It's it's fun, it's crazy, it's
stupid. It has Isaac Hayes and PJ Souls
in it. That's where the budget went.
Yeah. Oh, my goodness.
All right. How about you and Joe?
What have you been up to? I got two things.

(01:12:57):
Well, three things. I went to the theaters again and
I watched 20 years later. Again.
Again, because I really liked it.
I need to go. There's the new dinosaurs.
New dinosaurs movie Jurassic World.
That dinosaurs movie. Yeah, and the new mega movie and

(01:13:19):
there's something else coming out that I need to go see.
But anyways, I've been doing some reading.
I read a book by Eric Larocca. He writes horror.
It's called Things Have Gotten Worse Since We Last Spoke and
Other Misfortunes. So it's 3 short stories.
They're really weird. But if you like weird, like
messed up horror, this is this is it.

(01:13:42):
The first story is also like, a lesbian encounter online.
So if you're looking for, like, queer horror, this is it.
Yeah. I definitely want to read more
of his books. He's got a bunch out and I
really like his style, so I'll probably read more of those.
And not only is it like, weird and horror, but it also is like,

(01:14:04):
I don't know, kind of emotional.Like it.
There's a lot of commentary on like what it's like to be human
and like body horror and all that kind of stuff, so.
That sounds cool. Yeah, I think you would like it,
Nathan, actually. It does sound sort of sound up
my alley a bit. Yeah, yeah.
Is there? Car fucking in it.
Not yet, but. But you haven't read the whole

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thing. You know, yeah, there might be
more. There's always a chance to read
more of the stories. And I think, Kevin, you'll like
this one. I read Saraya's book, Helen
Boots, her memoir Flying My Way Through 9 Lives.
So I actually read most of the book.
And near the end, I kind of wanted to hear it in her voice
because she has a really nice, like, British accent.

(01:14:46):
So I start listening to it. Yeah, it is sexy.
I started listening to the audiobook on Spotify while I was I
was reading and that was really nice.
I, I recommend like, even if youread the book, like listen to a
little bit of it. I think it's really cool if you
have the option to hear someone's story through their
own like voice. So yeah, I really liked your

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book. I learned a lot.
I think you would really like it, Kevin, because it talks
about like when she got her start, she was like talking to
like Drew McIntyre and like these other wrestlers.
I thought it was interesting to see what she went through and I
actually learned a lot. I didn't realize like how big of
a difference she made in women'swrestling because not even that

(01:15:30):
long ago there, there wasn't like anything really.
It was like just the Divas Championship.
For sure, she she was really like a pioneer for women's
wrestling and, and took it from like the bra and panties mud
wrestling matches to like more serious like wrestling.
And now it's gotten to the pointwhere women's wrestling to me is

(01:15:53):
more exciting than men's wrestling.
Like their their matches are waybetter.
They they put way more effort into it and it's, it's cool to
see. Yeah, I I think the women's
matches are most of the times more interesting because they do
have to prove something. So you can tell that a lot of
them work a lot harder and it really shows.

(01:16:13):
I also, I watched the movie. I didn't talk about that.
Fighting With My Family has Florence, Florence Pugh in it
playing Saraya. It's got a bunch of big names in
it, but I thought it was decent.I don't know if you would like
it if you're like a wrestling fan just watching like a biopic.
It's kind of interesting. So yeah, I don't know.

(01:16:35):
I thought it was really excellent.
Nathan, what have you been up to?
There was a certain company thathad a sale that is having a 50%
off sale. Oh, no, I think you can take a
guess as to which one it is. So I've got a criterion.
It's a criterion. Yeah, I've got a bit of a
Criterion haul going on. Here, I love it.

(01:16:57):
OK, what do we got? I bought multiple maniacs.
This is one of John Waters 1st movies, 1 of Divine's first
movies. I don't need to talk about it
too much. I've talked about it on the show
before. It completes my John Waters
Criterion collection. Yeah, I've got all the John
Waters that is on Criterion. I feel.

(01:17:19):
By the way, Criterion, we need desperate living.
I will not stop tweeting at you until you give it to me also.
You're a menace. Yeah, it's got a lobster on on
the little booklet. If you know, you know.
I don't know. Yeah, I know you don't, but
somebody does. It's a lobster.

(01:17:39):
I also bought the 4K of gumbo, which again, we don't need to
talk. We've already talked about it.
It's the origin of Vile 4 stars.Cinema.
It's iconic. I also bought Sorcerer, which is
a 1970, I want to say it's 76 film by William Friedkin, who is

(01:18:03):
the same director as the The Exorcist.
The Exorcist. Someday I'll tell you about
this. I haven't seen it yet.
OK. I like it, yeah.
Right. And then I bought Punch Drunk
Love. Which is Sandman.
It's got Adam Sandler in it. Sandman.
Yeah, now I am well known as somebody who hates hates Adam

(01:18:29):
Sandler, and I do. This is the only Adam Sandler
film that will ever and doesn't like flying, do you?
Think he voted for Trump? I don't know.
I hope I actually don't know. Anyway, it's it's a beautiful
little romantic comedy about Adam Sandler.

(01:18:49):
He calls the sex line and he ends up getting blackmailed by
the sex line and weird shit starts happening from there.
But in the middle of it, he meets this woman who he falls in
love with. And it's that's really the core
of the story. It's directed by Paul Thomas
Anderson, who is mostly known for their Will Be Blood and

(01:19:15):
Kevin and one of Kevin and I's favorite movies, Boogie Nights.
He also directed Boogie Nights about Boogie Nights.
Who doesn't love Boogie Nights, right?
Never seen it. You've never seen it?
What? It's so good.
It's so good. Can we all watch it together so

(01:19:36):
me and Nathan could just quote it to you?
You're. Gonna be annoying if we watch it
with somebody who hasn't seen itbefore.
Though that's 'cause we know every line, I'll get some duct
tape. So I I I love this movie.
It's very cute and sentimental. Adam Sandler sort of plays a

(01:19:57):
character Adam Sandler might play in one of his own comedies,
except dialed way the fuck back so that he's not.
Yelling and like this annoying manchild that somehow everybody
loves, even though if you knew him in real life you'd punch him

(01:20:17):
over and over and over again. I don't think so.
Or hug him if you're Kevin, right?
Depending. On who he voted for.
You wouldn't punch Billy. I would.
Billy Madison and. What about?
Dang, do you think Spanglish? Was a nice Adam Sandler romantic
comedy. I haven't seen Spanglish, have

(01:20:40):
you? Kevin I.
Haven't. Oh shit.
I've heard that one's not. Bad.
I liked it. Yeah, I.
Don't know. I don't know.
There's certain Adam. Sandler Films I.
Hate less than others. I I'm not gonna cry.
I've never seen that one. Oh my God, I like 51st Adam
Sandler. I don't but.
That's a good one. OK, Kevin agrees.

(01:21:03):
I'm not gonna get too. Upset if you put on like the
Wedding Singer? Wedding Singer?
Yeah. What about Little Nicky?
Little Nicky. Is one of the worst.
Pieces of trash I've ever. Seen in my entire life.
I hate it like poison. Big Daddy.
I love Big Daddy. I love Big Daddy.
I don't like it, but. It's another one that I.

(01:21:25):
Hate less than the others. Kanga woo song.
Yeah, Kanga Woo song. All.
Right, I can wipe. My own ass.
I can wipe my own ass. I also watched.
The first half of Season 10 of. American Horror Story, What's
that one like? God, that's the one that takes

(01:21:46):
place. In P town.
Yeah. Did you like that?
So far I've watched the entire P.
Town Story because it's a season.
Split in two. I thought it was OK.
I've. I think it's the better portion
of the season. Yeah.
I don't know, I. Don't like American Horror?
Story that much at all. People even tell me, oh you got

(01:22:08):
to watch it first season. Well, I fucking tried.
I love Ryan Murphy. It's good.
It's good enough. I suppose I I was.
A little disappointed that they didn't show off more of P Town.
To me, it seems like a little bit of a wasted opportunity to
film ATV show in a gay town and really not show off all that

(01:22:32):
much of the gayness. Like it's, it's very many
people. Uh huh.
It's Ryan. Murphy.
You're gay, man. It's like very.
Drab in the way that it's filmed.
And stuff. And P Town is a very beautiful
and colorful town. Is it actually?
Yeah, Yeah. I only know it from American
horoscope. Oh no.

(01:22:53):
It's gorgeous. And it is.
So colorful and there's drag. Queens all over the streets,
everywhere. The fact that you don't see a
drag queen in the show until like the 4th episode and it's a
flashback episode. It's like, Oh yeah.
And it's like, what are we doinghere?
They add stuff in. About P.
Town. In an awkward.

(01:23:14):
Well, yeah, I mean there's drug addicts in in P Town, but they
explain stuff about P town in awkward ways, like when they
first get there and the the woman who's showing them the
house is like, I like to rent myhouse during the summer,
especially during bail week and all the septics back up during

(01:23:34):
bear week. I love bear week.
Fucking sewage backs up during bear.
Week once. And you're, like, immortalizing.
That eventually happened. It happened once.
Yeah. We're getting the lore here.
And but it's also like. What do you mean you like to
rent? Your house especially.
During Bear Week, nobody, nobodysays.
You rent your house for the summer.

(01:23:54):
You don't say. Especially during Bear Week.
Like that's just an awkward way of getting Bear Week into the
conversation. Or like the Dick dock.
Excuse me? What?
You've seen this? You've seen it, right?
Yeah, but I, I, I don't fucking.Know what the Dick Dock is the
the one of the characters. Walks up to a guy and he's
under. This Oh yes, OK.

(01:24:17):
And he's like. And the guy says welcome.
To the Dick dock, OK. And and then the guy goes,
what's the Dick dock? And he explains what the Dick
dock is. And it's like, but then he just
kills him. And it's like, why did we have
this conversation? The Dick dock is really.
Yeah, The Dick dock. You guys call it that.
Everyone calls it that. Yeah, I need to.

(01:24:38):
Google this stuff later, yeah? Oh man, that's amazing.
Yeah, I mean, I've never been there.
It's. Not something I not something
that appeals to me. Being.
Straight man and all that. I mean just, you know, see it
once in your life without attraction.
I don't know, I feel like assumptions are made about you

(01:24:58):
when you. Go to the Dick doc.
That could end up being uncomfortable.
I'll go for you. How about that?
Yeah, I'll let you know what's going down, I don't think.
They'll take pictures down there, but.
I'll let you know anyway. I don't know.
It was fine, I just was a little.
Disappointed with? Some of the the P town stuff.
The second part is that the aliens I think so I I decided.

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To stop watching. OK, well, we're going.
To have links in the descriptionto our letterbox.
So you can take a look at what we're watching and what we're
rating our movies that we're watching, including Nathan in
his body rates four stars. We're also going to have a link
to Jill's Goodreads, so you could take a look at what Jill's
been reading lately as well. That does it for our episode on

(01:25:45):
Silent Hill. We'll be back soon with another
episode and we're going to be reviewing My Pick Sinners.
It should be a fun one because it's a it's one of those movies
that is so cool and it's being talked about a lot right now, so
I'm excited to talk about it as well.

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But until then, back to the padded room with you.
Not silent.