Sinners (2025): Straitjacket Talk

You want some? Kevin, Gill, and Nathan discuss if Sinners is the best horror movie of 2025 (so far). Also, how Sinners appeals to a bigger audience and why it could become an instant classic! From the themes of oppression, to themes of music being a universal language- Sinners is more than just blood and gore..but it also has plenty of that!

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Nathan, your your drool and. It was a thing that didn't need
to be in there. No, I liked it so.
You know what was wrong with this one scene?
Never mind. No, I won't get into it.
I want to know. I do too.
He didn't call her a good girl after.
Oh my God. Oh, you want to get kinky, you
got to go all the way, he looks.Like you're cold open.

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Is that why she bit him to death?
She's like, you didn't call me agood girl, now you're.
Dead. Now I'm going to be a bad girl.
Hey everyone, welcome to Straitjacket Talk where it's two
guys, a girl, and a horror show.My name is Kevin and I'm joined

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by a guy who is the smoke to my stack.
It's Nathan. I am your twin.
I thought were your cousins, No.No, that's just what I said to
the old racist man. I'm also joined by a girl who
likes to dance with the devil. It's Jill.
He's a very good dancer, what can I say?
It's the tail. Do you have a question though if

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you guys are twins and we see what Nathan looks like bald?
No. Do you look like under there?
We could see what I look like with hair.
Yeah, you just gotta go get a wig.
I would like to wear those suitsthough.
Maybe we could wear those suits.Those are some nice suits.
Like, yeah, they were cool suits.

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Dapper. We watched Sinners from 2025.
It was written and directed by Ryan Coogler.
It had a budget of 90 to $100 million.
Do you know how much it made at the box office?
Nathan, What are you thinking? People were saying it did really
well. I'm going to guess $700 million.

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All right, Jill. $500 million, Iguess.
You don't seem sure I'm. Not sure either, so I don't
know. So the number I could find on
this for right now is $365.9 million, but I'm sure that will
maybe climb with residuals. Wait a minute though, it's on

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HBO. How does this work?
I don't know. I know they said it's like top
10 horror movie of all time. I.
Don't know, I was just expectingit to be higher.
A lot of people made a lot of fuss about how successful it
was. You know, 400 million is
something to scoff at. No, but on $100 million budget,
that's not crazy. The IMDb rating currently is 7.7

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out of 10 and the monitor is at a 97%.
This is pretty highly rated but what did we think of this movie?
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Isn't that right, Smoke? Yes, it's a privilege.
Before we get into our review, we just want to put a spoiler

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warning out there because Sinners just came out in 2025.
I know not everybody has gotten a chance to see it yet.
If you don't want to be spoiled,go watch it and then come back
and watch us. And if you've seen it or you
don't care, stay with us for ourreview.
This was my pick for a movie. The reason why I picked Sinners
for us to review was that it seems to be pretty talked about

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right now. It just went streaming what like
a week ago? Or so that yeah, it's.
Pretty much in the zeitgeist right now of horror.
I had seen this in the theater when it first came out and it
was getting a lot of hype and usually that's to my detriment
because I hate seeing a movie that's getting hyped up so much.
It almost never lives up to the expectation and for me it was

(03:50):
one of those. I think that hurt my first
viewing of this movie. I loved it for sure when I saw
it, but I think like I had thought that it was a little too
hyped up for what it was. Now I've had a couple more
viewings since it's become available streaming and I got to
say I really enjoy this. Like I I've gotten past the

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praise from other people and I'mgiving it praise because I think
it is like not only one of the best horror movies I've seen in
quite a long time, but one of the best movies I've seen in
quite a long time. I think there's a lot to like
here for even non horror fans too.
So I think that this movie is doing something really, really
cool. And one of the reasons why I

(04:31):
wanted to cover it now especially is we had just
covered From Dusk Till Dawn a few episodes, so it's ago.
And I really thought that there was some parallels with From
Dust Till Dawn and this movie. And so I think it's kind of a
cool thing for us to look at pretty recently after seeing
that one and seeing this one. Jill, what's your overall

(04:52):
thoughts? This was your first time seeing
it correct? Yeah, this was my first time
seeing it. I remember like when this
trailer came out and every time I would go to the theater I
would see this trailer and I'd be like, that looks really
sweet. I can't wait to see it.
For some reason I didn't go see it when it was in the theater

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even though I wanted to. I think I just like had too much
going on at the time. I kind of regret not getting to
see it in theater now. But yes, I threw it on the other
night and it was pretty late at night, but I I got all cozy.
I was ready. I don't know.
I was like, I knew there was a lot of hype around it and I was
surprised to see all the hype because I thought it was gonna

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be good. But just seeing like so many
people come out saying like different positive things about
it, I think shows that, you know, it's good.
So I liked it. For me though, I didn't feel
like the hype over it kind of ruined it for me or anything.
Like I was still excited about it and I think it actually like

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even succeeded and surpassed my expectations.
I didn't know too much about like on a deeper level, what the
movie would be making commentaryon and like the symbolism of the
vampires and everything. And the fact that this is a
black story with a black director, I think it's really

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important. I love like Jordan Peele movies,
so I'm happy to see more Black horror, especially black horror
being successful in the theater.I think that's awesome.
I was a big fan of the Black Panther movies as well, so I
don't know. It's really interesting to see
Ryan Coogler do something similar, but like something like

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in the genre, very different andthen a Marvel movie.
I'm kind of rambling. I have a bunch of stuff I want
to say about this, but I guess we can talk about it later.
Yeah, I I really enjoyed everything about it.
Like I was, as the kids say, satfor this.
Whole movie. I don't, I don't, I don't know
that one. Jeez.
I'm not terminally online enough.

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I was seated. That doesn't sound good, though.
But Nathan, how did you feel about it?
Nathan, hang on. I, I, I got to know First off
because I was thinking about this when, when I watched it for
my latest watch today, you had such something in Jennifer's
Body that I always think about now when a movie does this,

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where they give you a scene later on in the movie at the
beginning. And you said you hate that.
And it's been in my mind ever since.
Yeah. So I I know what you're talking
about that little it's like a flash forward, even though it's
a flashback. In the name of God.

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Because we start at the end of the movie.
I could have done without that, for sure.
I also could have done without knowing that it was a vampire
movie to begin with because of the marketing.
That all kind of drives me a little nuts.
It doesn't make the movie worse.The movie is what it is, but it

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it just is one of those things that like stop doing that you
like having don't like it. The surprise?
That's the vampire movie. Yeah, I mean, in this one it's
not quite as bad as like if you were to do it to From Dusk Till
Dawn, because they're foreshadowing the vampire with,
well, even in that scene where the the main vampire shows up at

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the the KKK people's houses, youdon't know that he's a vampire
yet unless you know that he's a vampire.
So. The trailers gave it away too,
yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, so. But then again, the movie might
not have been successful as it was if the marketing wasn't what
it was. That's true because I'm the sort

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of person who, I don't know, seeing a vampire movie
advertised makes me excited because I want to see vampire
movies. But I can.
I can see what you're saying. So yeah, I really like this
movie quite a bit. It sort of takes me back to a
time, honestly. It's almost like an early 90s
popcorn flick, basically. Like there was a time when the

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mainstream popcorn movies were intelligent rather than just
sort of splashing spectacle at you constantly, Which there's
nothing wrong with that. I'm not saying if you like that,
like you have lesser taste or anything.
I'm just saying for me, this sort of takes me back to, you
know, back when Jurassic Park was the big black, big

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blockbuster and the editor. It's on brand for the movie,
actually. It's a black Buster, I guess.
I don't know. Yeah, I, I love all the
characters. I, I think they're all really
great. I love how you get to know all

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these characters and they make you love the characters and they
and they gleefully pick off almost every single one of them.
So you feel bad, but the movie'sjust moving on.
I I like that a lot. Yeah.
I, I don't know. I, I like this movie quite a
bit. I think there's a lot to go over
here. I think it, it's funny, like he
brought up kind of a lot of the,the beginning parts of this

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movie I really enjoyed. Like I, I actually would have
been, I would have been in for the ride even if this was a
vampire movie. Like I was just kind of
following the brothers along and, and their escapades and
opening the Juke and, you know, meeting all these characters.
I thought that was really interesting.

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I agree if it hadn't taken the horror vampire turn.
Which how long does it take to get there?
Like an hour, 12, something likethat?
Hours. It's a little bit.
Yeah, if it hadn't done the FromDusk Till Dawn Turn I, it still
would have been very entertaining as like a period
piece drama because you have allthese awesome characters.

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Like if they had just gotten into a fight with the KKK
instead of vampires or there wasa rival Duke that they got it,
you know what I'm saying? Like it still would have been
cool because they did such a good job with the period piece
drama. Like you, I was kind of lost in
it, like I kind of forgot what Iwas watching.

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Like right from the beginning. You get that kind of folklore
opening with like the pro logs. There are legends of people born
with the gift of making music sotrue it can Pierce the mail
between life and death. Love the mysticism.
Yeah, I was like really into that.

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Jill, not not to cut you off, but this ties this ties into
what you had said earlier about Jordan Peele.
One of the things, and I know that he didn't direct the new
Candy Man movie. Now it's Acosta did right?
But in that one of the things I loved in the new Candy Man was
those folk folklore like tapestries throughout.

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And this reminded me of that. I'm so glad that you had
mentioned Jordan Peele earlier because that, like, sent a
memory to me. But yeah, I love it.
It's a powerful way to open this, for sure.
Yeah, for sure. I'm going to get back to that,
but you just also reminded me oflike how this reminds me of
Jordan Peele's work also, because he's able to create that

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setting and you get transported there and you feel like you're
there. Everything feels so authentic.
And I felt that here too. And like, like you, I, you know,
if this wasn't a horror movie, Iwould have been fine because I
was already interested in the characters in the story.
Like, crazy stuff was happening.The dialogue is like super
funny. I think I shed myself.

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Yeah. And that's one thing I really
like about Black horror. For the most part, it is like
really humorous. Like, you know, it can be really
terrifying and have serious likestuff in it.
But the the dialogue usually is just going to be like a little
bit of Comic Relief. And I, I think that was handled
really well. Yeah.
I I. Was thinking too like just the

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storytelling too in the dialogue.
I think it works really good in this because like Nathan was
saying earlier, you really learnabout these characters and their
histories through them just talking to each other and kind
of catching up. You know?
One of my favorite scenes is when they pick up Del Slim there
and he's talking about the chaingang and his.

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Past. With that.
Made-up a story about him killing some white man for it
and raping that white man's white and the election right
there in the railroad station. You know, and how they used the
sound. They didn't show you necessarily
what had happened to him, but they used the soundscape,
everything that went on. And it does give you that

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connection in that like feeling of empathy with this character
and and it ties all the characters together kind of in
that way. So the writing in this was very
strong to me. Very strong, yeah.
I got to ask you, who's your favorite character like that we
meet in here because this cast of characters, I mean, they're
all kind of lovable even, you know, I know Stack Stacks kind

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of the asshole, Yeah. Delinquent kind of guy.
Like yeah. But you still like him.
My favorite character's got to be Slim, I think.
Yeah, he's he's just, he's funny, you know, he's like, I
don't know when your Duke is going to close.
I know the one I'm going to that.
I play at it every Saturday night.

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It's going to be here for another 10 years.
I've been a messenger every Saturday night for the last 10
years. This is going to be there
another 10 years after that at least.
He's just like this no nonsense old dude.
And he's really intelligent because he's got a point, you
know? 100%.
I love how they coerce him though.
With the Irish beer. What?
You got there, boy. What is?

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It's an Irish. Beer.
And he just opens it like, wait a minute, Whoa, whoa, what's
going on here? Joe, who's who's your favorite
character? Do you have one at?
All I think Mary for me, I really liked her.
The way we meet her is kind of like mysterious.
Why won't we stand that you? Sure, she white.

(15:28):
She's just this like white lady apparently, this white appearing
lady, right? And she's just like standing
behind stack right at the train station.
And it's just kind of like, I was scared that he was going to
get in trouble because she was like a white lady.
And I thought, you know, God, he's probably like accused of

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something or he's going to get in trouble.
So that scared the shit out of me.
And just getting to learn more about her character was really
interesting. Also like to hear her story and
how what she goes through. She's like an outsider in this
minority group because she's like from both sides, but in
each side she's like, she's likestill an outsider.

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And I I love the scene. Where is that cornbread?
Who is doing security? Yeah.
Yeah, and he doesn't recognize her and he's not going to let
her in because she looks white. Excuse me, ma'am, you show you
at the right place. That's.
A damn good question, cornbread.Little man not.
So little, no more. Huh.

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Once he realizes who it is, everyone's like, oh, she's
family. And I just love how, you know,
she kind of assimilated into that.
And I also just love her as a vampire.
I think it's like, I think she'ssuper scary.
But yeah, she's. Pretty terrifying, yeah.
Yeah. But it'll kill you all.

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Yeah, she. Runs.
She's got like a bloody mouth and she's.
Kind of hot though too. She is, Yeah.
She is a gross, English titty vampire.
You just described the perfect woman.
See, Mary is the perfect woman. And I'm just kidding.
I just love that. It's like, so terrifying when

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you know she's a vampire and youknow what she's going to do.
And you just, like, watch it happen.
And just seeing her tear into, like, her lover.
I don't know. It's crazy.
I I love her so much. What about you, Kevin?
You know what, I I have kind of a double edged answer here
because it's the Smokestack brothers for me.
I know they're played by MichaelB Jordan, you know, two

(17:36):
different characters. And I mean, the the job he does
as two different characters is amazing because credible not
only like speak differently, have different kind of dialogue,
but their mannerisms are different and everything like
that. So the job he does, I mean, in
my opinion, should be Academy Award-winning, but.
Or at least nominated. You haven't seen the rest of the

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movies in 2025 yet, but. What I like though about the
brothers specifically is they are kind of the same in their
stories a little bit. And I mean, they have this kind
of love that they can't have necessarily for different
reasons, stack with Mary. Like you said, they can't really

(18:20):
be together. I think about you a day.
I just want to keep you someplace safe and I was never
going to be here. Obviously with the with the
dynamic of the race and everything and being separate
races or different races, whatever, and him wanting to
protect her and give her a better life.

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And then you have Smoke, who also really can't be with his
girl either. What's her name?
I forget. Annie.
Annie, yeah. And that's more of like a mental
thing with him. Right.
Yeah, that's more emotional reasons.
Yeah. Like the death of their child
tore them apart was the impression I got and work every

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route my grandmama taught me to keep you and that crazy brother,
you're safe. What those roots ain't working
on baby? I just like their kind of love
stories. They both love these women, but
they can't be with them for separate things and they kind of
have each other really to fill that love void that they're
missing. So I thought that was a really
cool dynamic. I do want to get your opinion on

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Preacher Boy because this actor,right, I believe this is his
first film that he's in. He's so good.
Yeah, I thought so too. I mean, what are your thoughts
on him? And I want to get into this big
question because one of the things I love best about this
movie is how they make music thefocal point in this movie.

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So what are your thoughts on Preacher Boy?
Did you like him, Nathan? I thought preacher boy Samuel
right? Is his real name.
I thought he was great. He has an amazing voice, both
speaking and singing. If you've got a little bit of a
sound system with a subwoofer going on, like when he starts
talking, you feel it. And I also, I love that he's a

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musician and that really, beforeit becomes about vampires, this
movie is sort of about the Blues.
I always loved the Blues. My dad is a Blues musician, so I
grew up listening to it. The Blues that they're playing
is a little. Little bit older than what I've
listened to that, that Delta Blue stuff is, you know, I know

(20:35):
it's the origin of, of what I listened to, but you try and
listen to that old love Lead Belly stuff or now I can't
remember. The guy who went to the
crossroads sold a soul to the devil.
I'll splash it across the screen.
It is difficult to listen to because those old 1930s
recordings are really awful. This being sort of a little bit

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of a history lesson about the Blues in a lot of ways.
I really liked that. You know, I liked that he had a
preacher man father who didn't want him to play the Blues
because that's the devil's musicand all that.
And he had to. He has to make a choice at the
end because the Blues is what sets him free and his father is

(21:21):
making it, wants to make him notplay the Blues anymore because
it leads to sin or whatever. Sinners.
Yeah. No, I loved all that.
I thought. I thought all that was great.
I especially loved Preacher Boy's song towards the middle of
the movie, conjuring spirits from the past and the future.

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All of a sudden like it's almostbreaking the 4th wall where you
have like a look forward into black music of the from the
future. In this movies world you got
that guy playing the flying V who might be like like a funk
guy from the 70s. And then you got, you know, the

(22:13):
the DJ turntables show up for hip hop stuff and the barn
starts burning down. It was this really cool, surreal
moment in the middle of a part of the movie that felt pretty
grounded and it took me so completely by surprise, but I
loved it quite a bit. I mean, I got to say for me,
this is the scene of the movie. I just, I thought that this was

(22:36):
like, whoa, it was an experience.
Somebody I was talking to you about this movie said this
movie's an experience. And I think that this scene
shows you that where where it takes you and it's an out of
body experience that you're seeing play out right in front
of you, which was. 100% yeah. Robert Shelton was the guy I was

(22:57):
thinking of by. The oh OK.
He went down to the crossroads, soul to soul to the devil.
Well, this movie is kind of likea representation of that too,
just in movie. Form yeah, I I love that scene.
It's beautiful. It's very like touching and
emotional and just like with thebackdrop of the music playing,
it's so like raw and powerful. That's one of the points when I

(23:21):
realized like I'm I'm watching art, like I'm watching something
like deeper. I love that music is is really
important in this movie. I think this movie says a lot of
things. One of those is like the lack of
freedom that these people have. They go to work all day, like in

(23:42):
the fields. Or if you're like Sammy, he goes
to work in the fields. That's one of his duties, but he
also has the duty of being in the church because that's what
his father wants for him. All he really wants to do is
sing and play Blues, right? And, you know, he kind of has
that crossroads set out for him.Like you have to.

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And this theme is in the movie alot like, just like taking the
hand that you're dealt and accepting it or taking a risk
and, you know, doing something else.
Whether that's like deciding to join the vampires or stay in the
barn or the, you know, the building and try to fight them
or whether it's I'm going to, you know, stay, be a good

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preacher boy, work in the fieldsand, you know, only get to live
when I get to play some music onthe side whenever he gets a
little bit of free time. And I think that shows like how
important it is for these peopleto have like this night where
they just let loose and they do things that are fun and they

(24:52):
enjoy life. This is like the the one time
they get to experience a little bit of freedom because they're
suppressed in every other aspectof their life.
I think it's like beautiful to watch these people.
You really see like the joy thatthey feel from the music most of
all. But they're like drinking,

(25:12):
they're smoking, they're socializing, they're having sex,
they're, you know, dancing and singing and doing all these
things. They're sinning and they're
like, fully living. I was thinking something
similarly where like this is their freedom.
I I know technically slavery hasquote UN quote ended, but it
hasn't, you know? No, well, they're, they're being

(25:34):
paid in in store credit basically for a store owned by
the company, the cotton company,I guess in this case that's not
getting paid at all. Basically, it's basically an an
extension of slavery. Slavery light if you will.
One thing I wanted to say, the other thing that they have
besides like this night and thislike stolen time to like, you

(25:57):
know, play this music is like they have community like they're
all there for each other. You can tell like the
relationships, you know, betweenthese people.
They're very like intimate. Everyone knows each other and
they help each other out like the way that they come together
to make this Juke joint happen. Huge community effort.
And that was like a really cool sequence to watch as well.

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I just love all that. Yeah, I love, I love those that
those flashback scenes after kind of the big scenes had
happened in this movie of showing them like putting
together the Jew for the night and things like that coming
together. Like you said, community and
they even talk about it, you know, this is family or like
it's like why? Why is that white woman in there

(26:43):
or whatever? And they were like, she's
family. Like that's why I think you care
so much watching. Yeah, when the horrible vampire
stuff starts happening, yeah, you know, it gives so much more
levity to this, to this situation.
Yeah, you, you care about the characters and and that's sort
of the core of the story is these characters.

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Before we get into the vampire situation of them.
I was gonna say we haven't talked about the vampires yet.
This is a horror podcast for God's sake.
We're. Teasing it a little bit, and I
want to tease it with a controversial statement because
everybody had talked about afterthey had seen Nosferatu.
They're like, this is the sexiest movie.
Ba Ba Ba Sinners is the sexiest movie.

(27:27):
So you rob trains and banks because you can't steal this
pussy. For a knife like this movie has
some great like sexual stuff if you're into it, but like I I
thought those dynamics are really good too in this because
you do see some things differently, like with the the
drool stuff, you drool. You want to.

(27:52):
But I I really like I was going to say though, specifically like
I like some of the foreshadowingbecause like even when they're
having that conversation earlierin the movie, I think it's Stack
and preacher boy, right where he's telling him about the
button, right. And then later in the movie you
get where he's with Pearlene. I just thought that was that was

(28:16):
a fun, fun moment. But I thought this was a very
sexual driven movie, like even dancing and things like that.
Better than Nosferatu. I don't know.
I think Nosferatu is a better movie myself, but oh.
You know it's the vampire tie intoo, right?
Vampires always have this kind of sexual thing with them as
well. Vampires tend to be sexy.

(28:38):
Honestly, they have. To be or it's not good.
Well, I mean, there's some monster vampires that aren't
sexy, but it's like, it's eithersexy or it's I yeah, I get you.
But it's either sexy or it's terrifying.
Monsters, you know? There's no in between the main
vampire guy, right? He is charming like some

(29:02):
vampires, but he's also super scary.
I just come to see if y'all was good people.
Oh darling, that's so sweet of you.
So. Sweet.
We most surely are. Jill, what did you think of this
this guy? Oh my God, I'm going to offload
right now. All right.
So I'm going to be like insufferable.
I'm like an OG fan of Jack O'Connell because he started

(29:26):
acting in the TV show Skins, which I was obsessed with in
high school. He was just such a great actor.
He played a very unique character who was like a very
complex guy who goes through a lot of stuff and just like can't
get a break in life. And it's our really like tragic

(29:46):
story and it's really dark and it's always kind of stuck with
me. I see him now doing.
He was just in 28 years later and he's been in other stuff
too. But I'm really happy to see him
in this role because he can playthis very like kind of coy
villain character, but he can also be charming.
And I think he is like terrifying actually.

(30:09):
I love his character. I love what his character
represents. I don't love what it represents,
but I like the analogy. I guess the vampires are there.
They could be like symbolic of how we exploit black culture.
When Sammy starts playing the music.
Like, you get that little prologue in the beginning

(30:30):
saying, like, people who are gifted with music can Pierce The
Veil of life and death, and it can be a gift to heal the
community, which it is in that scene we just talked about.
You can see how it brings peopletogether.
And you touched on the Blues earlier.
Like Blues is historically how Black people like got out their

(30:51):
frustrations when they couldn't really say much without facing
consequences. Those their way of getting
through the day. Like, this is their culture and
this vampire is coming in and he's trying to buy it with like,
his little coins. What type of money is this?
Solid gold, kind darling. He offers it to Mary right, to

(31:11):
bring back to see if they'll lethim in.
And I, I think that's like kind of like part of the whole point
of it is like he's trying to convince these people to come
over to like the dark side. Like sell your soul.
You'll get all these benefits. You'll be stronger, you'll be
faster, you'll be immortal, you'll be young forever, but you
have to sell your soul. It's that like deal with the

(31:34):
devil. So.
Is remick like an old? White.
Studio. Yeah, he's like a.
Record label. Record CEO Guy.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because he lures him in with, like, the money and the music.
And slowly people start to go over like they're interested.
And then they come back because they lose their soul and they
come back and they try to, like,recruit more people.

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And it's just like a disease that destroys everything.
The person, It doesn't destroy Sammy, because he's, like, so
pure. He's so true.
He sticks to his guns and even in his choice to become a Blues
musician instead of, you know, just taking the hand he was
dealt in life to be a preacher boy work in the fields.

(32:16):
I'll be honest though, when he came up and started talking to
them and it's like it's actuallygreat life.
You can cut and will it'll be community.
This world already left you for dead, Won't let you build, won't
let you fellowship. We will do just that together.
I was like, I don't know, reallycharming.

(32:37):
I almost. Kind of.
I want to join you. And I just like, I don't I, I, I
am rooting for our, our friends to get out of this situation.
But there was a moment where I was like, wait, sure, he's lying
about that because he's just that charming.
Yeah. He seemed like he was

(32:57):
gaslighting them a little bit with their community versus his
his. Community, no doubt.
He's still terrifying, you know,and he definitely wants to
absorb Samuel's gift there of his music.
Yeah. He, you know, he wants it to be
a part of him instead of having letting it be a part of Samuel

(33:18):
in his community. So.
Oh, that's a good point that that's cool too.
That was a cool touch that he absorbed like parts of
everybody. You don't see that often in
vampire stuff. No, no, that was a really cool
thing. Yeah, he has.
Like he has access to all their memories.
Because I know everything he knows now.
And I want you to let us in there and.

(33:40):
Stuff like that. So like, you're not really you
anymore once you've turned you're you, but also you're a
part of him. And yeah.
Sharing stuff. Yeah.
Like even that scene where he started speaking Chinese to the
lady and that was like, like man.

(34:02):
He's so creepy. I know he knows all the thoughts
too, like that's just messed up.Yeah, he's hot though.
Like I'd join his vampire cult. You would join him.
Oh, for real? So, so fast.
Not even a question, right? No soul.

(34:23):
I love too when he he pulls up with the the other two there and
they have their little band and they're playing a song.
The fucking clans, man. The Klansman fan.
Court friends like yeah, they'renot bad.
They were, actually. Good, they were good they were.
They were really good. It was.

(34:43):
It was like uncanny. It has like uncanny vibes.
I saw a little bit of an interview with the director.
It was just like a YouTube shortand they were like the
interviewer was like, why did you make your head vampire
Irish? And he's like, I love the Irish
folk music. My kids love Irish folk music.
That wasn't supposed to be like a joke.
It's like he no, he loves that music.

(35:05):
It's it's part of why he chose it, for him to be Irish just
because he wanted that music in his movie as well.
I think too, like that's powerful music steeped in like
folklore as well. So it's a different kind of
Blues somewhere else in a way. And they even bring it back
later on where he's got more vampires with him and they're on

(35:27):
the outside and they're all playing.
Dang, this is This is quite the.Plan that jaybird watching me
eat the Robin or something like that.
It was actually quite a disturbing lyrics there.

(35:49):
I think they actually also played that for the soundtrack
to when the vampires finally enter the Duke there.
So it was kind of another version of that too that
followed them. So I thought that was, that was
cool. Nathan, what'd you think of the
vampires? The villains in this movie are
great. The whole vampire cult thing is

(36:12):
extremely creepy and weird intimidating.
I also like that they follow thevampire rules of you, like you
can't come in unless you're invited.
It was all very traditional, what we think of vampire type
stuff, which meant that they hadto come up with a reason for

(36:34):
them to not be safe in that Dukeanymore.
It was all very creatively done,I thought.
Yeah, that's that's a good pointbecause I love how earlier Mary
gets bit right and then she's like kind of talking down a
cornbread, kind of just like shehad done previously in the

(36:55):
movie. But she's like, let me in, you
know, and. He was a little put off by it,
though. He's like, yeah, you can come in
like, why are you asking me that?
But then we know that she's a vampire partly because of that,
and then they show her the bite on her back later or whatever,
so. I think though, what works well
with these vampires too is there's really no big signs that

(37:19):
they've turned like you were. There's the bite, there's when
she drools and things like that,but like there's nothing that
really says that she because shestill knows these people and can
interact on a very personal level.
Like nothing's changed in that aspect.
So I think that's what makes it creepy too.

(37:40):
And that they play with throughout.
It's like, wait a minute, is it you or is it not you?
And especially later on when Cornbread tries to come in after
he's been bit and Andy's like, wait a second here.
Why? Why do we have to invite you in
all the sudden? What do you?
What do you? What is this?
What y'all doing? Just step aside and let me hold

(38:01):
in now. Why you need him to do that?
It's like, that's right, Annie. The little.
Man, you know what, though? But like, he's believable still
as a vampire and he's like, well, what the heck, You know,
like you're treating me like this, blah blah, blah.
And you're like, wait a minute, Is he?

(38:22):
I'm not sure. And I didn't had no doubt.
But this comes back a little bitlater too with the other guy
whose face had been slit and there is doubt that he is a
vampire as well. So they kind of take their time
trying to open the door for him,which allows the vampires to eat
them. So it's cool that it works both

(38:42):
ways a little bit. And then Bo comes back in that
moment, actually, Grace's husband is like, yeah, come on,
honey, let's go to the car. And she's like.
Are you talking about that I? Don't want about cornbread?
He's. A little hungry, that's all.
Are you seeing this? And it's so casual and it's so

(39:03):
creepy and weird. Yeah, no, he's just hungry.
It's OK. And it's like.
Yeah, it's perfect, though. Like you said, they set up why
they possibly have to leave the Jew because of the daughter,
right? Because of Grace's daughter.

(39:23):
And Remic has the capability of knowing where she's at so he can
go attack her. So she kind of loses her mind
pretty quickly and is like, comeon in, come on in your
motherfucker. But if it wasn't for that, I
mean, she really like kick starts the action like that's

(39:43):
when it goes down and I don't know, I was happy for that to
happen then. Yeah, that's when it starts
turning into like From Dusk tillTill Dawn ending, like climax
scene, you know, that's when it was like, OK, this is really
From Dusk till Dawn. You needed that scene, so you

(40:05):
had to have a way to get them into that bar, you know?
Yeah, because they could have just waited them out at that
point because they already knew that they had to be invited in
so. Yeah, exactly.
So she invited all of them in. Come on.
Motherfuckers I love how the screen changes too.

(40:26):
The screen goes like full screenright at that point when they
enter the Juke. I don't think it's to the level.
Obviously if you watched it in IMAX you would have been like.
Whoa, right, right. It was widescreen and now it's
like. I really like the cinematography
in this movie. Even the fire stuff looked like
really cool. Grace just lighting on fire.

(40:50):
On top of that, the scene there where Remic is up in flames and
smoke, it has preacher boy and they're just watching and like I
thought that was beautifully shot and and stuff.
So I don't know. I really liked the cinema Tiger,
even though like a lot of it does take place in the Juke, but

(41:11):
I think they still give it a lotof character and how they'd
shoot different things and and stuff.
So I I never found it boring or place and I really liked it.
It was very stylish the way it was shot, you know, a lot of
like following shots, long takesand stuff like that.
I liked all that stuff a lot. Yeah, I like to like because I

(41:34):
know it's like a very period piece type of film, but they
even did like the pops of like color, like we were saying in
their suits and things like that.
It was so it was kind of grainy in parts, but I feel like that
was part of the period piece. But then they'd stick the style
in wherever they could. So I thought that was really
cool. Even like the red Juke sign,

(41:55):
like I like that image of that too.
The ending here. I want to talk about the ending
because my first thoughts were when they go to buy this place
that this dude was like KKK and he was.
When he said that the KKK didn'texist anymore, I was like this
man is KKK plan don't exist no more.

(42:17):
And I I sort of thought that that was going to be part like
the KKK was going to be the vampires or something like that.
You know you get both and you get both, yes?
I thought this is going to go differently where the KKK was
going to show up, but there would be just vampires.
And then the vampires killed theKKK.

(42:37):
Yeah, yeah. That would be satisfying.
But still smoke, smoking all theKKK, it was pretty satisfying.
That was very satisfying. I was I was happy about that.
It went full action movie in that in that moment too.
It went full like commando like I am sitting in the middle of
this place with a machine gun and none of you are touching me

(42:58):
because, because this is my action movie.
Yeah, I love that because they had made references too, right?
Being soldiers, Were they actually soldiers in a war?
Yeah. Yeah, World War 1 I believe,
right? Yeah, I think they came back and
like went to Chicago or something.
Yeah, because I was going to saythey seem very trained.

(43:20):
You know what, too? That reminds me.
I like one of the things they had not given us much
information about, like you weresaying, Jill, is what they did
in Chicago and how they came to have money and all this booze
and things like that. Right.
They said something like they had turned the Italians and the
Irish. Yeah, they stole from both and

(43:42):
then made them think it was the other or something like that.
It's referenced a bunch, but it's not.
It doesn't come to anything. It's flavor lore, you know, I.
Like how that's how they get their money.
Like they steal from these whitepeople and they bring it back
home and they try to make a place like for their community

(44:03):
and it's for them, by them. And then these filthy vampires,
I mean white people, I mean vampires come and try to like
steal from them. And the saddest part to me, like
the most tragic part of this is the fact that we find out that
this Juke joint like wasn't going to be successful after all

(44:24):
the work they put into it. They was always going to kill
you. I just happened to show up at
the right place at the right time.
You telling the truth, Smoke. Yeah, they wouldn't be able to
keep it going. Yeah, that's really sad.
And I think it goes to like kindof show like the the struggle
and the fact that even if you are able to get somewhere, like

(44:47):
the system's always going to pull you back in.
There's a big risk to that. And that's also makes the
vampires offer that much more appealing.
Yeah, and they know they're desperate too.
And and like going back to like the record CEO, people like
these people know that, you know, they have the upper hand
and people will submit over desperation and they use like

(45:10):
filthy little tricks and yeah, same thing.
I thought that was good writing too because it gives a reason
why they have to go to these thevampires in the 1st place.
Or like the chance because Mary finds out that they are
struggling and she's like well this is my chance to help and
gives them that in to the Jews because they were being smart.

(45:36):
They weren't letting these people in in the building.
Yeah. So I thought it was really
intelligent. And getting back to, like,
folklore, I love how, like, the Smokestack brothers were their
own folklore. Like, yeah, everybody knew who
they were, which was so bad ass.I love the scene where those
guys try ripping off smoke. Smoke Terry where you been?

(46:02):
What was doing better before youshot me in the ass going to
heavy trying to boost my truck. Taking his booze out of his
truck. I didn't know it was you he
shot. He shot both of them.
That kid was like, why'd you shoot me?
Can't have some *** talking about how he almost robbed the

(46:22):
twins. Not without a show for.
Because they even made referenceearlier like they were like,
well no ones gonna remember us or something or like they won't
remember you. And they're because it's been 7
years but everybody remembers. But they're.
Like Snake Pliskin, everybody knows who they are.
That's such a good reference because I love that stuff.

(46:44):
I love when you're like. Your reputation precedes you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, and you got to
think about this afterwards likethey would have been like
legendary after too. What did everybody think of the
mid credits scene? This is Buddy Guy.
With Buddy Guy, you Fast forwardto 1992 and Samuel is now being

(47:05):
played by Buddy Guy. I'm just going to put this out
there. I didn't like this mid credits
scene at all. I actually kind of.
I hated it. Found it annoying that they were
suddenly being sentimental abouta night where a whole hell of a
lot of people died. Maybe once a week I wake up
paralyzed, reliving that night but before the sun went down.

(47:32):
I think that was the best day ofmy life.
It didn't feel right for Stack as a vampire to be like, Oh
yeah, I just left you alone because I told Smoke I would.
It doesn't really make sense to me how that worked out.
I mean it didn't like ruin anything but it was just sort of
a it left a bad taste in my mouth I guess for the mid

(47:55):
credits seem to be that way. You know what that reminds me
of? You ever watch Queen of the
Damned? I did years ago.
I really don't remember much of it.
Another black vampire by the way.
Aaliyah. But the scene at the end where
the vampires come and visit likeone of the mortals characters

(48:17):
and and they're kind of menacing, but it's like always,
you know, they have their own life and they're evil, but they
have other stuff to do and they're just coming to check on
him. Like that's what that reminded
me of a little bit. I thought there was a better way
to do this without them having to talk.
Like you could have had Buddy Guy play and kind of make a
reference to like it's Samuel. And then we see Stack and Mary

(48:41):
kind of come in, watch him for asecond or something, and then.
And then maybe just leave. I I, I don't know the
conversation. It didn't work for me at all.
Yeah, I also would have liked anactual like live performance by
Buddy Guy rather than sort of playing music that's unconnected
to the visuals over in playing. Yeah.

(49:03):
Love Buddy Guy, amazing guitar player.
The acting was not great, but. He's like 92, I know.
I know. Just picking the net.
Fix that scene by not having them talk to them, just having a
great live performance by Buddy Guy which would have entertained
me greatly, and then not talk toStack and Mary.

(49:27):
Yeah, I agree with you. I think that wasn't the best way
to end this movie, but I think they're trying to connect to
like the future when I don't. Know it just.
You're right, it didn't work. What they could have done was
kind of what you said, like him have a performance and have them
kind of like in the audience, but like not have him notice and

(49:48):
they're just like checking in onhim and watching and that would
have been cool. The audience knows they're out
there, but. But he, Samuel himself doesn't
know. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Or he thinks he sees them or
something like that, but he's not sure.
But they turn the walk away. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Straight out of that comic book.

(50:09):
Right. It's funny because my biggest
nitpick on this movie is the scene where the vampires finally
get into the Juke and then they kind of like skedaddle like.
And I was like, well, why? Why did they leave?
They're vampires. They should have the upper hand
here. And.
I don't know, once I once I got into that scene, it was so

(50:32):
chaotic and crazy that I didn't even think about that, to be
honest with you. Wait, did they run away?
Because I mean, they Slim sacrificed himself in that
scene, right? They retreated and then all of a
sudden like a couple of them came back and and that's that
like led to smoke and stack kindof going at it.

(50:53):
And then we got eventually wherepreacher boy and Remic are in
the water together and Remic's about to kill Preacher boy.
Here's another question, right? They kill Remic, smoke sticks a
stake through them. So like all the other vampires
just light on fire and die, right?
The sun came out. Oh, the Sun came out.

(51:14):
Yeah. All right, now that answers
that. I was going to be like.
Is gonna be like, why is Stack still alive?
Stack. Hey, Mary.
Stayed in the barn? Yeah, it's Stack, and Mary
Stayed in the barn. I very little to pick on this
one. Yeah.
I felt for Grace because I knew like, what she was kind of going
through, but then at the same time I was like, you're

(51:35):
endangering all these other people too by fighting.
Once she once she did that, she had to die.
I liked Grace. Still I I haven't changed my
mind about that. I like all of them.
But once she did that, it was like she sealed her fate.
She had to die. You can't do that in a horror
movie and then not die. Those are the rules.
Them's the rules. Yeah.

(51:55):
Yeah, so here's what I thought. I thought I was listening.
Jesus. Coming in.
Hot. None of that was supposed to
make the cut. Now it's going to make the cut
because it came flying in. Wow.
Coming in hot, you know, I I also thought the same thing
first about grace. I was like, God damn it, you're

(52:16):
like putting everyone in danger.But I was just thinking like,
these vampires are going to set this barn on fire because
there's like the foreshadowing earlier of like of.
Like the performance? Yeah, I was like, oh, damn, this
is gonna burn down the vampires.They're gonna, like, try to lock
themselves in here, and the vampires are gonna try to, like,
smoke them out. I was like, OK, she needs to do

(52:37):
this or they're gonna smoke themout.
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.
I mean, you're. I never let it make me dislike
Grace, but now I now I like her even more because she was.
She was right all along. They needed to.
I mean, really, they could have found a way to sneak out if she
hadn't panicked, but. I I like the direction I went

(52:58):
in. I was happy that she was like,
let's just fight these vampires.Go.
I'm going to be a badass. Like bring it on.
Yeah. You know, like Arnold
Schwarzenegger and and and Predator.
This had a very akin scene to From Dusk Till Dawn too, where

(53:19):
they're getting all the they're like, what do we need steaks?
Now we need garlic. Wood.
Silver garlic, Yeah. Silver and things like that.
You know what? It also had a very The Thing

(53:39):
scene. The garlic is what I wanted.
To say yes, Oh my God, I thoughtthe same thing with the garlic.
When they were eating the garlic, this is the thing.
And then they give you the face.It wasn't a big showcase scene
the way it is in the thing, but you know, But yeah, what you
were saying, the fake out with the slim there.

(53:59):
Slim pickled. Garlic was so funny to me, like
that's what they had to use. You know, think about this too.
They died with like, really bad breath.
Yeah, yeah, that's no way to. Go bad anyway.
Garlic breath. At least they had some flavor, I
guess. A seasoned skin.
Sorry, let. Me.
Wash first, let me wash. What are you?

(54:23):
Marlene was hot. Oh, you liked her?
Oh yeah, perlene was hot. Mary was hot.
Perlene was hot. This movie was hot.
Yeah. Honestly these characters are
like all hot. Cornbread.
Hot cornbread smoking hot. Why is his name Cornbread?
I want to know. I don't know.

(54:44):
I know there's there's like a racist stereotype involving
cornbread, but I don't know whatit is.
I. Hate cornbread?
Oh, do you? Yeah.
Disgusting. I.
Got to put some butter on it. Got to put some butter on it so.
Grainy. Yeah, that's what's good about
it. What's wrong with you Americans
besides the obvious? There's a lot wrong with

(55:07):
Americans, especially right now.It's time for quarter Kill.
We're going to give you our favorite quarter of the movie or
our favorite kill of the movie or both.
I love the line and maybe you both have this, I don't know,
but. You keep dancing with the devil.
One day he's going to follow youhome.
One day he's going to follow youhome.
I just thought that was like, badass.

(55:29):
Yeah, that's a good line. For sure.
It's a rock'n'roll line, yeah. For sure.
My favorite kill is Stack getting killed by Mary.
This had a lot of weight to it, obviously, especially when Smoke

(55:51):
walks in and sees his brother just getting torn apart.
She has the line like, we're going to kill y'all.
What I love though, is Smoke doesn't even think about it
twice. He pulls out his gun and just
starts firing at her. Like, like, no explanation
needed here. Like, that's my brother lying
there. You know?
That was an emotional scene for sure.

(56:12):
And even before that, you know, it's like juxtaposed supposed
you have the sex stuff and then the eating and killing stuff.
So I thought that was a good juxtaposition in that scene.
And of course, Mary, with the freaking blood all over your
mouth. Oh yeah, terrifying.
And hot. Iconic, yeah.
Yeah, it is iconic for sure. Yeah, for sure.

(56:35):
Jill, how about you? Yeah, exactly the same two
things you just said. So my favorite quote is Mary,
obviously. Who are we going to kill?
Every last one of you, are we going to kill every last one of
you with like you said, the blood all over her mouth and
that scene with like, she's justlike in the darkness.
It looks so terrifying and she'sjust a wonderful actress.

(56:57):
The kill, like you said, it has so much like weight to it.
I don't know. I really wanted like all the
couples to like last but I knew it was fleeting.
Like I knew like this was their one night.
You know everyone loses their like partner, even Sammy and and
Perlene. The women are married.
We have to remember too. Oh yeah.

(57:19):
Perlene and Mary both married toother men.
Yeah, true, but they're not in love, right?
Like they are with us. Do we know that we we never even
meet these? They have to.
Be unhappy if they're, you know,sneaking over to the Juke joint
with the twins. You know, everyone's free.

(57:41):
And that's like a part of the freedom too.
Like, yeah, they're, they're free to not hide like their
affairs. But also, Mary, like, this is
her one night where she can kindof, like, identify as, like, the
black part of herself, right? Because she can't really do that
out in normal society because she looks white.
And I don't know. God, it's so tragic that all

(58:03):
these people are just ripped apart from everything.
And yeah, it's really sad. It's also just like the kills in
this are kind of brutal I feel. Yeah, yeah.
They are just a lot of biting, alot of blood, a lot of like
melting. A lot of it's pretty badass.
What about your favorite quarterkill?
My favorite line is from Slim and he says.

(58:25):
Devin came for me plenty of times.
If you come knocking tonight, you don't have to go through his
old friend Delta Slim before youget to you.
He going to have to go through his old friend Delta Slim.
I like that line because I like Slim.
I think he's the funniest character in the movie.
And then he follows that up by sacrificing himself to slow down
the other vampires. He he said what he was going to

(58:48):
do and he went through with it. He cut his arm open and was
like, come get me instead of going to get Samuel.
I thought. I thought that was badass.
As hell. He was like he's like you smell
that? No, he goes, I sham.
I'm crazy. I think I sham.
Myself. God damn enchiladas.

(59:10):
Damn enchiladas. Damn enchiladas.
Anyway, my favorite kill is Remic actually.
I thought that was really. That was pretty great.
I never thought of a resonator plate on a resonator guitar
becoming a weapon. That was bad.
Slices open his head. I thought that was pretty great.

(59:35):
I also really liked that they used a resonator guitar.
Those are not common things. So I am one they're they're
cool, they're fun, but then smoke of course, comes up and
gets them with the stake throughthe heart, you know, in grand
vampire fashion. I I do have a honorable mention
the clan leader dying smoke is he's having this like

(59:59):
hallucination or maybe it's a spiritual.
He's on his way to heaven. And then the guy like interrupts
it. I don't want any of this smoke
to get on. I got money by going.

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I got money. And he's like begging for his
life and Smoke is like you've just interrupted a very pleasant
hallucination. So just start shooting him.
I thought that was pretty great.Yeah, that's that's what I got.
Yeah, can't get any piece from all these races, man.
No. He's got to go. 1 little nitpick

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though. By the way, a guitar neck cannot
be called a guitar. So if you've got somebody
holding on to a guitar neck, youdon't say drop the guitar.
Drop the guitar, Sandal. Yeah, just the tiny piece, the
sliver. It's just it's a guitar neck.
In order for it to be a guitar, it has to have a neck and a
body. Otherwise it's a guitar body or

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a guitar neck. It's not a guitar.
That was the preacher saying that right to.
Yeah, to. Sammy.
So he's on? Yeah.
Smoke said something similar, though.
You've got to keep the guitar too.
And it was like, what? And then?
Where's the guitar? It's half.
There's no guitar, sorry. I hear you.

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No, no, no. You need to knit the picks.
Every now and then. It's time for our letterbox
rating. We're going to rate this movie
from one to five stars. 5 is thecool, badass music.
One is the KKK for me. Oh my God, I'm light headed now.

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KKK Boo. Less than one KKK is 0.
Zero for me, Jesus Christ. Dang, I should have said like
pickled garlic. Yeah.
Pickled garlic would be a one, KKK be a 0.
My letterbox rating has changed because when I originally saw

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this I rated Centers four stars.I've changed it now after a few
watches. This is five stars for me.
I really really enjoy this movie.
It's my own bullshit why I ratedit four stars to begin with.
I just like, I don't like when movies are hyped up like that.
It just it ruins them for me. I'm over that now.
I I really love this movie. Like I said, I think that this

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is a just a great movie. Like not even just horror.
I think it's a it's a great movie, but I know we're a horror
podcast. I think this does do horror
really good. I think like the kills are
brutal. The vampires are awesome.
Vampires are tough for me because like we talked about
with like sexy vampire stuff, like a lot of it's just not

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scary to me. These are good because they
balance being charming and likable with horrific and scary.
I really enjoy the horror stuff.The music is amazing.
I love the cinematography, the characters in the writing are
just awesome. Like this is one of those like
special movies and that one scene that we talked about that

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just shows Sammy playing guitar like from the past into the
future. It was it was an experience.
So that's why I'm rating it fivestars.
I really think this has something for everybody.
And again, like horror wise man like it it does Vampire is
really good. So I don't think you'll be
disappointed. Jill, how about you?
Yeah, Also going to give it fivestars.

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Woo, just because, yeah, I've got nothing bad to say about it.
Like I said earlier, I was seated the entire time for a 2
hour like 17 minute movie. It didn't feel like that to me.
It was entertaining the entire time.
The story is strong, all the horror elements are strong, all
the musical elements are strong.This movie says a lot.

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And I also think it, like, showsus how important not only music
but like, art in general is to like, the soul of us as human
beings. And like, we're on this earth
for a reason. It's just to, like, have these
moments where we're enjoying life, you know, and sinning and,
you know, connecting. I think that's really powerful.

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The acting was great and it was funny.
So, yeah, it's five stars from me.
What about you, Nathan? So this is going to get 4 stars
from me. I wasn't expecting to be the
only non five in the room, but that's fine.
Yeah, I'm giving it four stars. I liked it a whole hell of a
lot. I don't really have a reason why
it's 4 instead of five. It's just that there's other

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movies I like better is what it really comes down to.
But it's fun. It's really fun movie.
It's got a lot to say, like you said, Jill, and it's an
intelligent blockbuster. You know, it's a high budget
blockbuster movie that has a lotto say.
When people try and tell me thatmovies nowadays suck, I say that
is not true. I think there's more movies from

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the era we're in right now that I love than any other decade
other than maybe the 70s. But what people are right about
is that sort of the high budget blockbuster movies tend to be
slop in a lot of ways. So enjoyable slop there, you
know, but it's not the way it was in the 90s where you had,

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you know, blockbusters that had something to say.
You know, this movie doing that it, it gives me hope that maybe
the $100 million budget movies, we'll go back to doing that soon
because this did that and it wassuccessful.
So it was an original property. It wasn't a sequel or a remake.

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And it felt very original. I mean, we talked about all the
influences it has, obviously, but it still felt very original.
Four stars. I like it a lot.
Yeah, I think this movie makes me excited for what's to come,
and especially in horror, because I think the past two
years in horror have been reallycool.

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We're getting a lot more original type of horror movies,
and they're being successful too.
So I think that's like a really,really good sign.
So we'll see. We'll see where it takes us.
I think you know you only get one life.
You might as well sin, right? Yeah, there you go.
Before we end the episode, we want to let you know what we've

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been up to. Speaking of new horror movies, I
went to see I know What You Did last summer, the new one.
Me and Nathan always talk about how, and Nathan's got a great
point, how they just name these reqels the same as the original.
So now you have no idea what theheck that movie you're talking
about. Yeah.
So yeah, I went to see the new one in theaters.

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For me personally, I'm a little mixed bag on it.
I rated it three stars on my letterbox.
I think there's a. Lot of like two 2 1/2 on
letterbox right now but. Yeah, and I think that's fair.
I think that's fair. I think probably the nostalgia
for the movie gets me over a little bit more than some people
who are around two 2 1/2. I think it's a mixed bag.

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That's my personal opinion. I think some of the things are
great, like the fisherman character, I think they nail and
he's scary. Like I think they do a great job
with that. I do like some risks they take
with this too. I, I don't think there are copy
and paste like Scream was. So I I do appreciate that the

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dialogue for me was horrendous, like horrendous dialogue.
I was. Joel, did you see?
I know what you did last summer.Yeah.
No, real quick, did you like theoriginal?
I know, I know what she did lastsummer at all.
Yeah so actually last night me and Rowan from it's Lays
podcast, we filmed a now slayingepisode on the new I know what

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she did last summer and I think in the last like 2 years we also
covered the original I know whatyou did last summer from 1997.
My view personally was like, actually all of us when we
reviewed it, the nostalgia for it was like stronger than how
much we liked it rewatching it, right?
And we just kept coming back to,OK, we really like Scream better

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because Scream came out around the same time and it's just
like, smarter. Yeah, it's just a better movie.
And yeah. Pretty much every way, yeah.
Yeah, exactly. And what we were saying about
the new one is that it's trying really hard to be a scream
requel with it's like, I don't know, can I do spoiler spoilers?

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No spoilers. OK, OK, OK.
They try really hard to be screaming multiple ways, but it
kind of worked for me. I liked it.
Like, I thought it was a decent requel.
The beginning was kind of hard for me to get into with like the
dialogue. Some of the acting was pretty
lackluster, except for a girl who plays Danica.
I thought she was like the best character.

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Yeah, she was funny. It was decent.
But you know, it's, it's pretty like it's a fun slasher.
If you're interested in it, go see it.
If not, don't watch it. Don't go out of your way.
Yeah, yeah, I, I agree with that.
I think it was a fun enough timefor sure.
I, I don't think it's gonna be one of those movies you'll sit
through and be like, man, this just sucked.

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Like, maybe you will. But yeah, I think there's enough
there where you're like, if you're even just looking for
like a slasher movie, I think itgets you, gets you through with
the kills and and stuff like that.
Definitely keeping on horror though, real quick.
I did watch two other horror movies.
I'm trying to watch more slashermovies.
Speaking of like summer slashers, but I watched Prom

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Night and Terror Train, both with Jamie Lee Curtis.
The original Prom Night I watched, I gave it two stars.
I wasn't huge into this one. Yeah.
Damn. Yeah, I haven't seen it.
I don't know, but I know it's consider a classic by a lot of
people. Maybe just because of Jamie Lee

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Curtis. I don't know.
Yeah, it's funny because I mean,I didn't think she was really
that great in this movie. I think the big kill in this
movie is awesome and memorable, but overall it was just kind of
like a boring slasher till the end and that wasn't very fun.
Terror Train on the other hand Igave 3 1/2 stars to.

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I had a really fun time with Terror Train.
I really recommend Terror Train if if you haven't seen it, it's
it's really, really good. I it does the mystery angle
really good and has a really good reveal at the end too that
I think is really good. I keep saying really good.
It's really good. It's cracking me up.

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Really good. Lastly, I watched a movie called
The Boy from 2016 and I'd never heard of it before and I was
recommended it. I really enjoyed it.
I gave it four stars. It this is really good.
How's your girl Jill from The Walking Dead?
Lauren Conrad, is that her name?Yeah, Maggie, she plays.
Yeah, has her in lead role. She was really good.

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I can't even tell you anything about this movie because it
would spoil anything for you on it.
Because I this is one of those you have to go in just thinking
it's the movie it is and right having the twist at the end,
it's worth it. Go see it.
I was gonna ask you real quick. Have you seen Prom Night 2?
Hello, Mary Lou. I've heard about it, I haven't

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seen it though. Try that one and get back to me,
see if you like it better than the first prom night.
I've heard the remake is also really well with Brittany Snow.
I need to watch that. It's like on my list I.
Haven't seen any of these movies.
I don't know. I don't know if they scream
Nathan to me. Not enough car fucking, you
know, maybe it was. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, a problem for cars or something.
Right, we need, we need a sleepover horror night.
Watch Nothing Car fucking Night.Nathan's gonna sleep in his car
tonight, I love. My car.
I bet you do. It's a hybrid.
I bet it is. Does that mean it goes both
ways? I'm confused.

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Anyways. Yeah.
All right. Economical.
So apart from watching the new IKnow What You Did last Summer,
we also reviewed Gothica from 2003 over on its sleighs.
I had never seen it before. It has Halle Berry in it.
It's kind of like a psychological thriller sort of

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deal. It was OK, wasn't my favorite.
Bringing endorsement over here. Yeah, I haven't really been up
to much as I don't really have much to talk about.
The other thing I saw was the new Superman movie in theaters
and it was OK. You're like one of the very few

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people I've heard say anything other than it's amazing.
I. Know, I know.
I feel like such a turd. It's just because, like, I'm a
crusty Zack Snyder fan. Oh, really?
Yeah, and you know, it's it's James Gunn.
So he, I feel like it's very like Marvelized Superman, which

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just like isn't really my Superman, you know, it's not Mr.
Henry Cavill. But anyway.
Murdering an entire city and allthat.
Yeah, I like my DC movies to be dark and gritty and, you know,
it was cool to see something different, though.
I'm glad that a lot of people liked it.
I'm glad that a Superman movie is doing well.

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I still like Man of Steel better, but it was pretty.
It was pretty good. I'd watch it again, I guess.
Nathan, what have you been up to?
Well. I got a couple of movies I rated
five stars. Whoa.
For very different reasons. The first one is called Who
Killed Captain Alex? And this is one of those movies

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that people look at as being so bad, it's good.
I kind of disagree. I think it's just great.
It's an action movie that was made for around $200 in Uganda
and the plot doesn't really matter that much.
Captain Alex dies at some point you got a fight between the

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government and the taiga mafia. And the acting isn't great, is
bad and the special effects are horrific LY bad.
But apparently, something I didn't know about Uganda is
people in Uganda, when they go to see a movie, they have
something called a video joker, which means a guy with a

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microphone talks about the movieThe entire time you're watching
the movie. Oh, God.
And so they have the video jokertalking over this movie.
And the whole thing is just hilarious.
At one point, he's like, now we're going to show you how we
do action in Uganda. At one point, he gets so excited

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that he just starts yelling the word movie over and over again.
He goes movie, movie, movie, movie.
Just like that. Huh, right, Yes.
And there's a I'm not kidding. There's a scene where they're
doing Kung Fu and he yells. Everybody in Uganda knows how to
do Kung Fu. It sounds amazing.

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It's incredible. I, I mean, it's really an
incredibly entertaining time. The movie's subtitled other than
the video Joker, but it ends. You stop paying attention to the
subtitles after a little while because you just want to listen
to this guy talk because he's just so enthusiastic.
At one point, he actually advertises the next movie by the

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same director in the middle of the movie.
Oh my God, you're in the middle of the movie.
You know what movie you're talking, you're watching, and he
still goes. You're watching Who killed
Captain Alex. Watch out for Bud Block, that's
the next movie. It'll be coming out soon anyway.
It's in a packed movie. He was like VJME on DMIC and

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it's just. I want to be a video joker.
I I highly recommend watching it.
It's like nothing you've ever seen in your entire life.
It's fun as hell. These people obviously have just
this giant passion. It was made in the like by some
villagers and Uganda was in the middle of a civil war and they

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were literally in the war zone. So it's not it's made for $200
because the level of poverty in the country is is unreal.
Wow. So I went and I bought a DVD
from them of the. Movie.
You don't have to. No, it is, it is not Criterion.

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It it's, it is just a DVD. It's going to take a million
years to get here. It's coming straight from
Uganda. Damn.
Yeah, I watched it for free on YouTube because they uploaded it
to YouTube and they sent me a nice little e-mail.
Hi Commando Nathan, we are getting your order ready but we

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want you to know it may take a little while, maybe a couple of
weeks. It is not because we are lazy or
have Ebola, It is because we arestill very small and want to
make every order special. Ebola.
At one point he says at the end is like, thank you for
supporting deadly action films. Super fan, super spelled.

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That's EPA. That's.
Adorable. That's worth it right there.
I, I'm, yeah, you know what? If they never send it to me,
I'll be $13 well spent. Just for that.
Come yeah, just for just to get that e-mail.
I, I, I'm gonna. We're going to call you Commando
Nathan. From now on.
You've been. You've been designated.
What Hollywood calls me CommandoNathan, now also a super fan.

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Super fan commando Nathan. Then the next movie I watched
that I gave five stars to is theone that I told you last time I
hadn't seen yet. Oh sorcerer, I I saw that on
your letterbox. This movie is fucking
incredible. This is a masterpiece.
It's up there with like Apocalypse Now, Jaws and, and

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just I cannot believe that this movie, nobody's heard of it.
I hadn't heard of it until a fewweeks ago.
So sorcerer. It has nothing to do with the
sorcerer. Sorcerer is the name of the
truck. Yeah, Yeah.
Oh my God. It's about four men who all live

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in different areas of the world,and they all end up on the run
for various reasons. One of them is a mobster,
another one is a terrorist. And they're all sort of just
very flawed people who have donesomething horrible, and they all
end up on the run, and they all end up in this one place in
South America. An oil fire happens.

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I guess one of the ways to put out an oil fire is by blowing it
up in some way. But the only TNT they have is
was so poorly maintained that it's now leaking nitroglycerin.
If you bump it, the whole TNT box just explodes.
It would kill everybody if you bumped it.
And so these men are hired to drive trucks full of this TNT

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that'll explode over rough jungle terrain to 200 miles of
rough jungle terrain to this fire.
It is so tense and so scary. It's a it's like it's a butt
hole clenching film. Because you're just.
Clenching your butt hole the entire time, like oh God, what's

(01:20:08):
going to happen? It's almost like a slow action
film. Everything things happening
slowly, but you're just as tenseas if everything was happening
quickly because you know, the whole time there's this threat
that this TNT is going to blow up and and kill our characters
in the truck. And it's directed by William

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Friedkin came out in 1977. It's it's incredible.
It it should be talked about in the same breath as as all the
the classics you know have. To check it out.
Apparently you've sold me. Apparently it bonds partly
because it came out a month after the first Star Wars movie,
and literally every movie that came out in that time didn't do

(01:20:53):
well, I guess. Yeah, just die.
Star Wars or nothing. This movie had a huge budget.
It twice the budget of Star Wars.
So for it to bomb like that is is really bad.
It was like $22 million, which in the 1970s was a whole hell of
a lot of money. Accounting for inflation, it was

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over $100 million budget in today's money so.
It's funny, I was talking to Jill and I was like, if Nathan
doesn't rate Sinners 5 stars, I don't know, but you rated those
five stars. Jill said you were going to rate
it four stars. And I was right, right?
Yeah, you're right. So I won.
Did. You have a bet.

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Yeah, sorta. You win Remic behind you.
If you want to take a look at our letterbox and see what
Nathan is rating five stars, we're going to have the links
down below for you so you can take a look.
We also have Jill's Goodreads. That link will be down below as

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well. Nathan, you gotta get your
butthole clenching list going onletterbox.
Yeah, well, that does it. That does it.
That does it. That's it.
Butthole clenching movies. That's it.
That does it for our review on Sinners.

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We'll be back soon with a new episode and we're gonna be
reviewing The Toxic Adventure, but until then, can I have some?
Back to the Padded room with you.