Titane (2021): Straitjacket Talk

Titane from 2021 might be one of the strangest movies ever made! There are some body horror scenes that will make the viewer squirm and sexual scenes that has us questioning..”Wait, she does what with a car?!” Is Titane a beautiful love story underneath all the horror and auto erotica? Kevin, Nathan, and Gill discuss..

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You know what? Let's get to the car phone of it
all. Damn.

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Hey everyone, welcome to Straitjacket Talk where it's two
guys, a girl and a horror show. My name is Kevin and I'm joined
by a guy who likes car fun. It's Nathan.
I don't cars. I don't do that.
I'm sorry. Do you want me to start?
Start what? In cars it's.
A personal. It's a free country, you can do
whatever you want. I'm also joined by a girl who

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can watch this movie without subtitles.
It's. Jill, thank you.
I good you actually. Speak the language.
We watched Teton from 2021. It was written and directed by
Julia Decorno, who was also the director of the movie RAW.

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Correct? I have not seen it.
Have you guys seen it before? I've seen it, yeah.
Did we both talk about it in a straitjacket talk when we both
watched it? Yeah, yeah.
Back when you did it for its slice.
And we both liked it, Yeah, but did we like this one little?
Little French teas. Teton had a budget of $6.6

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million. Do you know how much you made at
the box office? Yeah, I don't even have an
educated guess. I don't know if it did well or
not. I'm just going to say it made
$18 million. I'm going to say it did well.
Yeah. Also for no particular reason, I
panicked and I wanted to choose the number before Nathan said
one and that number was 15,000 and that's kind of close to his.

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So I, I'm going to stick with it.
So 18,000 million, 18 million, $18 million I.
Picked 18. 1,000,015 million, $15 million.
OK, I'm panicking well. Don't give me numbers dude.
You're both way over OK, but Jill's the closest.

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Teton only made $5 million. Oh damn.
So it. Closer to a fast.
Bomb then. Didn't do well.
The IMDb rating is at a 6.5 out of 10 and currently the
thermometer sits at 90%, so it'scertified fresh.
But what did we think of this movie?

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Isn't that right, Nathan? Yes, it's a privilege.
Teton was Nathan's pick for an episode.
So, Nathan, why did you choose it for us to review?
This is one of my favorite movies of this decade.

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I saw it about a year ago, talked about it on the show, and
promptly got made fun of for watching 2 movies that both
involved sexual activities with cars, and I decided I guess it's
time for us to review the car fucking movie.
That's right. Who doesn't love a little car
fucking? Let me tell you something.

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We weren't making fun of you. We were.
I know you were laughing with me.
Right, exactly. But I wasn't laughing.
I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing with you.
But I'm not laughing. I was concerned for real.

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Jill's a true one. Now that we're doing it for
Straitjacket Talk and you've rewatched it, have any of your
feelings changed on this? Nathan, what's your overall
thoughts on Teton? No, my feelings have not changed
on this movie at all. I think this is a masterpiece.
You know, the car fucking and the strangeness gets all the
attention, but there's an actualheartwarming story about found

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family and love in there that iswonderful.
It successfully makes you care about characters who are morally
reprehensible, which is not an easy feat to pull off.
If you're squeamish, this one ain't for you.
The body horror has done excellently.
The cinematography is beautiful as well.

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It does that thing. I love the splashing colors
across the screen, The purple and the Blues and all that.
Yeah, I I love this movie. I think it's great.
Jill, is this your first watch of Teton?
It is my first watch. It's been on my list for a long
time. I knew it was coming soon

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because I we know how much Nathan loves it.
So I was kind of waiting for himto to pick it, to watch it, and
here we are. What's your overall thoughts now
that you've seen it? Oh boy, I have a lot of
thoughts. This is when I think, honestly,
I'm going to need to take more time to let it settle a bit, a

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little, marinate a little bit. I don't know.
There's a lot to it. I think this whole movie is like
one big French onion. And at the center of this big
French onion, you've got this woody core, right?
And it's the story of Alexia, right?

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You follow her. From the beginning.
When I was watching this, I was grappling with kind of how
uncomfortable it made me feel, But I couldn't quite put my
finger on it until I was thinking about it later on.
But the beginning of the movie, I'm going deeper than my initial
thoughts. I hope that's OK.
No. Yeah, the very beginning of the

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movie, you have Alexia as a kid just being like, really shitty,
being a shitty kid. And that ultimately leads to
the, like, steel plate in her head and all that.
And from then on, you just like,see her life continue to be
shit. But my issue with it in the
beginning was like she was a shitty kid and now she's just

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like a shittier adult. But then I thought about it some
more. So personally for me watching
this, it was really difficult right at the beginning with the
car accident because when I was also a kid, probably about the
same age, I was in a car accident and it ended up killing
a kid. Like ran into a kid on the road.

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Sorry, this is like a lot of trauma, but this is kind of a
traumatic movie. So and also the metal plate I
feel like represents trauma and how this event kind of paired
with how she's treated by her parents, like her dad even
before the accident is like checked out and kind of yelling

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at her. And then you see how that
continues with every relationship she encounters
after that because of of the trauma, the mixture of the
environment you grow up in plus like trauma can lead to what we
see in her life. She's just like
self-destructive. She's unable to make connections

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with other people, and she's fucking cars instead of having
like serious and meaningful relationships with other people,
which is like a really real symptom of trauma.
Like I struggle with mental health and trauma and all that
kind of stuff. And one of the big things for me
that is really difficult is sometimes I feel like a machine,

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like an Android. And I think that's kind of a
metaphor in this movie as well. Like the trauma has made her
part machine. She can only have relationships
with a machine. She's birthing a machine, all
that kind of stuff. So I don't know, it made me
uncomfortable a lot because it reminded me of things that I'm

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uncomfortable with in my own life.
And it is a really bleak movie. And the character doesn't get
like, really a happy ending, which is like, even more
horrifying. Yeah.
I also really like the body horror.
But yeah, it was like, really hard to watch.
But I want you guys to to add tothat.
What did you think? I think actually what you said

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makes a lot of sense because I think this movie has something
for everybody. And I think Nathan touched on it
too, like, yeah, it's very strange.
There's a girl fucking a car in this.
There's a lot of other strange scenes in this movie and on the
surface level, you know, there'sa lot of great body horror and

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we're following a pretty much a serial killer as the main
character. So it is a little like different
in in things like that from a narrative perspective.
But, and you both touched on it.There's so many deeper levels to
this movie and I think it's kindof how you want to engage with
this movie a little bit. And yeah, the aspects you take

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out of it because like Jill said, you know, the trauma
section of this movie is a big, big thing for sure.
And like Nathan's saying too, like, I think a lot of the movie
is deep. It's depressing.
It's tough to go through a little bit, but you had touched

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on like maybe like, you know, the love aspect and, and Jill,
you, you said that like for the ending, you thought it was a
bleak ending. I kind of actually thought it
was an oblique ending. I took the opposite way on.
That actually, yeah. Yeah, go ahead.
I'd like to hear what you both have to say about that.
I was just thinking the ending was more like she had been going

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through life alone and really not having love or someone to be
there for her. And then in the end, she did
have that with Vincent. You know, it just took her a
while and kind of found that love, it might not be perfect.
Love isn't perfect. Like, I think it's a real world.
I think it's a real world thing of love, Like, because love

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isn't fairy tales and isn't, youknow, stuff you actually see in
movies. This this movie's doing a real
life representation of what loveis like.
It's not perfect. It doesn't fit a normal box and
it's and it's found in differentplaces and different times of
your life too. Because like, look at Vincent,
he was looking for love too and he found it.

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And Alexia as you know what partshe played for him.
So that's what I took it as. The ending, there is a bleakness
to it because I mean, Alexia dies over the course of like the
middle of the movie. You sort of, you learn to feel
for Alexia, even though she again is a morally reprehensible

(10:57):
person. She has killed a whole lot of
people. So and, and so that is bleak and
that is sad. But you do get the feeling that
the baby is, is sort of born going to be born into a, a a
loving environment and and the baby is going to have things
that Alexia didn't in her childhood.

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You know, I don't want to say that's optimistic because you
still have a, a, you know, a life lost.
But there is family there. This is a family that will
continue here in this in the in this world.
It's also, I mean, Alexia can't live through this movie.
Like what she's done is is is pretty terrible.

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But I guess I kind of agree withboth of you that it it is bleak,
but it's also there's hope in there.
It's not overly bleak. Like you, you have to feel
terrible about the world after it is, is the way I see it.
I want to ask too, because Jill,you had said about at the
beginning her relationship with her father a little bit like it

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seems like he's like distant andstuff.
And we get that really that justthat one big scene of him, you
know, turning around when she's in the car and trying to
reprimand her a little bit. But I was wondering, do you
think that there's deeper layersthat they didn't show us to like

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their relationship? Like maybe he abused her or
something like that. That added to like her state of
mind a little bit or who she is.I didn't personally get that
from the father. It was just kind of like a
neglectful sort of environment, which I can also kind of relate

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to. Like, you know, parents don't
try to traumatize their kids a lot of the time.
And my parents were always at work and they were doing
something good, but they also, like were not there for me
growing up. And that led to a bunch of
attachment issues for me. So I think maybe it's kind of
similar for her. Like her parents aren't that

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interested in her. She's kind of like an annoyance
that contributes to it. But also the fact that she went
through this traumatic event andthat pair with everything else
kind of spirals. My issue I think with her
character was that it was just kind of scary seeing such a
villain without many redeeming qualities, especially since I

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kind of identified as that character.
Watching it, it's like, oh, am Ijust like a, a shitty human
being sort of thing? I know it's probably not trying
to get at that, but that's like,I think what scares me about her
character is that there's not many redeeming qualities.
The only thing I think you really get is like the joy that
she has with her new father, buteven that is kind of based on a

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lie and she can't truly be who she is.
I'm not saying she deserves. Go on.
OK, OK. I'm not saying she deserves a
happy ending, but it just sucks that she goes through all of
this and has these brief, like, fleeting moments of joy, goes
through all this pain and then dies.
And I know the baby is supposed to be like, a positive thing,

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but seeing it have, like, piecesof metal in it, like the spine,
to me, that was like the trauma,like the metal, like the steel.
Yeah. So that kid, even though it's in
a loving environment, like, it'sstill going to have that part of
her. So to me, that was like the
bleakness of it. And I think I'm just, like,
uncomfortable with that stuff asa whole.
So probably looking at it through that lens probably made

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it less positive. I don't know.
But I actually think that makes it more positive because I think
one of the themes of the movie is, is unconditional love,
people being able to love you for who you are rather than they
want you to be. Or maybe because you said that
the love with Victoria Victor. Right.

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Vincent. Sorry.
Yeah. So you said that the love with
Vincent is based on a lie, and Idon't really agree because I
don't think Vincent ever actually thought that Alexia was
his son. I think he went in there into
the the police station going, nomatter who this is, I'm going to
say that that is my son. There's never really a grand

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reveal to Vincent that Alexia isa woman.
Over the course of the film, a couple of times he says they
will never be able to tell me that you are not my son, which
suggests that he knows the entire time.
I didn't see that as how you sawit.
I thought he was like grieving so hard that he wanted to

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believe so much that he did and just seeing like his ex-wife, I
guess when she's like, you know,what would you do if you
couldn't grieve your child? And then she talks about like,
the folly of like how she's manipulating him into, you know,
this relationship, this father son relationship.

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And so to me, I always thought he was just like, so broken that
he believed it. And then to me, the big reveal
was when she is like going into labor.
And that's when I thought he like, finally accepted it and
like helped her. When the Vincent is talking

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about how like, they could nevertell me that you're not my son.
When he finds her wearing the dress and then he shows her,
like the pictures of him as a kid wearing the dress, to me,
those like beats where the dad always walked in, to me, he
thinks, OK, his son is like going through some like gender,

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like, you know, uncertainty. And that's what I got from it.
I thought this whole time he waslike trying to be comforting to
his son because he's also going through something, but on the
opposite side of the spectrum. Like the dad is very masculine
and he's taking these, I guess, testosterone shots to be more
masculine, whereas Adrian is on the other end.

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And I, I thought that they were insinuating that he thought he
was transitioning into a woman and he was trying to be a
supportive dad. Well.
That's that's a possibility too.I don't think that's crazy.
No, no. I saw.
I saw the similar thing though, Jill, like what you were saying
in the dad kind of grieving and wanting to accept whoever that

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was as his child because he had such a big loss and he was
trying to fill that void, right,of his son no longer being
there. But I think kind of what you're
talking about in maybe him thinking that his son is going
through a change that leads into, I think, unconditional
love, like Nathan's point too, because like, this guy Vincent,

(18:08):
his dad, he's like, hey, show metrust.
And he keeps saying trust me. Like, Eric, do you trust me?
Like he's trying to earn. Yeah, the trust because he's
trying to show, like, what unconditional love and support
is. Obviously, Alexia doesn't have
any of that, like, in her life ever.
So she doesn't know what that is.

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It feels like she has to learn to let him love her.
And eventually she is able to learn to do that.
That's why, you know, in my opening thoughts, I, I was like,
it's actually heartwarming. And I'm starting to think not
everybody agrees with me about that, but I, I just felt like

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it, that was just the way it was.
You know, these are two horrifically flawed people who
have real problems, but they're finding each other and through
all of, you know, the lies and the deception and, and all that,
they're just able to love each other.

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And that to me felt very real. Although it and another thing
that makes me think he knew it wasn't his son before well
before the she went into labor is he kills Ryan when Ryan
starts getting too close to the truth about who Alexia is 0.
Damn, I didn't realize that. OK.

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Yeah, I hear you on your interpretation of that line and
stuff. I, but I, I don't know, on my
third, this is my third watch. And I just feel like he was
never going to accept an actual truth that Alexia wasn't his
son, that he, he just, he neededthis person for some reason and

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she didn't know it, but he needed him to.
And I feel like there's some beauty in that, despite all the
flaws that both of them have. You know him with his his
self-image and, and, and you know he's.
Shooting steroids because he can't do a pull up and heard
she's having she has trouble accepting love of any kind of

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the wife spits bars by the way, all of her lines are perfect.
Whatever your twisted reasons for exploiting his fucking
folly. I don't care.
Just take care of him and that Idon't know that felt real to me.
Like, she loves this man, but she can't be with him because of
his issues, and she sees like this can be good for him.

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And that's sort of like the essence of the movie.
It doesn't matter that you are who you are.
It doesn't matter how much of this was built on deception at
the beginning. This is actually real.
And these people love each other.
Yeah, and I think it shows you what type of man Vincent is too.
That like, even though they they're not together or
whatever, she still loves and cares about Vincent and knows

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that he's going through things too.
And she just can't for her own sake, can't be there for him the
way he needs. So, which is a totally
understandable thing. Right.
And it's a selfless act, like it's kind of another love idea,
you know? You know, it's funny because I
was picking up on themes of him,too, and like, shooting

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steroids, trying to be more masculine and like, puffing out
his chest and things like that. And certain scenes, especially
at the firefighters. Oh, it was kind of like he's,
he's dealing with his own like aging that's going on too.
And. Insecurity about getting old for

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sure. Yeah, like, and, and he's, he's
dealing with that. So I thought that was a cool
theme too, because, like, he's struggling with something in
himself as well, and his body's changing just like hers a little
bit, a little different, obviously, yeah.
Obviously, yeah. That adds to like the whole body

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horror of it all as well. Big part of it in the movie is
the pregnancy with kind of the metal peeking out.
I feel like pregnancy is alreadyreally scary, and the fact that
what they did with it in this movie is even more scary.
Yeah. And especially the way that she
deals with it, like wrapping it up.

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Yeah, because she has to hide it, which is.
Yeah. Some of those scenes are real
rough to watch. Oh yeah.
And that's kind of why I also got the like, I don't know, like
gender like issues, yeah, going on here too, because you could
say that threat. Is there a big thing like
rapping? There's definitely gender some

(22:54):
transgender stuff going on here,although I don't think Alexia
was ever actually transgender. And.
There's some sexuality stuff going on here too, which you
could wax poetic about forever. I'm sure I I can't, although I I
will say there are gay clubs that are straighter in that
Firehouse, but. What's wrong with a bunch of

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dudes just dancing together? There's nothing wrong.
There's some homoeroticism goingon.
Taking our shirts off, getting all sweaty.
You know what, Let's get to the car fucking of it all.
Damn. Here's what I want to know,
right, Jill? You had said about like maybe
her wanting to fuck cars becauseyou know of the trauma she went

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through and not being able to belike kind of in a real
relationship sort of idea. Or I was wondering because as
soon as she's in the accident and comes out of the hospital
and then she has that metal plate in her head, it's almost
like she has an attachment to metal.
She goes right up to the car afterwards and it's almost like

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they have this, I don't know, Bond now like they are.
She hugs and. Kisses the car.
Yeah. She's more of a bond than she
does with any living person. Right.
And then like obviously later on, I kind of like how this is
never explained or whatever. Like we just see it play out

(24:24):
where the car is kind of like, Iguess flirting day.
He's enticing her. The car is the The car is
seducing her. Yeah, with its flames and its
hydraulics. Sexy car, Sexy car.
I love too how she's all strapped into the seatbelts and

(24:44):
things like that. Like little little bondage thing
going on this car like. Yeah, little bit of bondage in
that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's never really explained whatshe's actually doing in there.
You only see her from the chest up.
It's a deadbeat car as well. No.
Child support, yeah. What the fuck?

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It's funny when when Nathan had first talked about this movie
and he was like, there's a chickfucking a car, right?
And when I it's like started seeing it play out, I'm like,
OK, when they pan inside the car, she's just going to be
gilling herself a little bit like, and that's like, that's
what it's going to be. But no.

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No, she's fucking the car, Yeah.What's going on here?
Car's into it too. Car's super into it.
Apparently he got his motor oil all inside her.
Those were kind of gross scenes,too, where she's got, like,
motor oil, like, leaking from her body and things like that.
Yeah, I mean, horrific. So I was talking to somebody

(25:48):
about this movie and they're like, well, is it horror?
And I was like, well, yeah, it does follow kind of a serial
killer and there's a lot of coolkills, but I didn't really even
think about the body horror aspect of this movie.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's, it's very, it's
very similar to the fly in that way.
You know what I was thinking of?This movie reminded me a lot of

(26:09):
Tetsua. Tetua.
Yeah, yeah, I get you. The metal and the transformation
of the body. And yeah, yeah, I was thinking
that it reminded me of The Fly because The Fly is a body
horror. It's a it's a horror movie.
But at the end of the day, the actual story is a, is a romance,

(26:30):
a tragic romance between, you know, Jeff Goldblum and Geena
Davis. So it's a horror and that's the
genre you're gonna put it into. But it's actually the core of it
is a romance, whereas this movie, it's a body horror.
And at the beginning it's kind of a slasher, but at the core of
the the movie is like, yeah, exactly.

(26:51):
The the the wooden core of the Onion that you were talking
about is actually. Subtle nuances, right?
Right. Contributing to the vast
complexity of this movie. Right, there's a lot about this
movie. I I I don't I feel like even
like I've watched it three timesand I'm not sure I've scratched

(27:12):
the surface of of what all of itis about.
But I do think at the core of itis is like a found family sort
of love story in the the body horror is is the the genre
trappings on top. I, I just wanted to say earlier,
I, I totally agree with you withthis being like a very wholesome
movie and like found family and didn't really exactly touch on

(27:35):
it. But the fact that she gives him
this baby, it's what he's alwayswanted and she kind of has to
die for him to get it, but it's like he gave her a family.
I don't know. It's just like it keeps giving I
guess. On the positive note there.
That's true. I, I think it's important to
what I take out of it at least, because I, I saw a lot of what

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you were talking about Jill, where like the trauma was kind
of the metal inside her and like, and like, is she a
horrible person? Like, because I, I took it as
like her killing these people aslike the trauma spreading right
and just and affecting everybody, like in your life or
like that's around your life because she started killing

(28:18):
people she didn't even know. Just really, you know, when I
first watched this movie and shekilled that guy who was asking
for autograph. I was like, oh, it's going to be
one of those where she kills creeps and it's, you know, it's

(28:39):
yeah, a serial killer where she kills just creeps.
Who? Who are trying to exploit her
body and etcetera, etcetera. But then the scene in the house
with Justine, who's played by the same chick who plays Justine
in raw, by the way. So kind of a little bit of a
connection there. Maybe All of a sudden she's

(29:01):
killing people who do not deserve it, as far as we know,
and in increasingly horrific andbrutal ways.
That was like one of my things about Alexia's character.
Like it was hard for me to find the motive, even though it was
the motive is in your face. Like it's because of the damage

(29:23):
that's been done to her and continues to be done to her.
Like when she's working as a dancer and being objectified by
that guy, like you said, she just kind of gives it back to
him. But it starts something.
It starts this like unstoppable trail of destruction.
And I feel like she just can't help herself because she has no
tether to to people or reality so she just goes unchecked and

(29:49):
does all this stuff for like literally no reason until she
gets that anchor at the end which is Vincent.
I thought too, like, you know something you had said about the
the trauma now being passed downto the baby because the baby's
part metal too. And I I think that could be
valid as well. But the way I look at it too,

(30:09):
with a more maybe hopeful endingis, yes, this baby does have the
trauma passed down by, you know,the mother, but this baby is
going to be in a loving environment versus Alexia who is
not. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, the whole thing I feel like is, is loving somebody who

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you for who they are unconditionally.
And that's something Vincent is capable of doing.
Yes, I think kind of what you'resaying there too, Kevin, with
the metal. I think the placement of where
the metal is is also kind of significant, like an Alexia.
It's like part of her psyche. It's in her head.
But when she passes it on, it kind of fortifies the spine of

(30:54):
the the baby. So maybe they're trying to say
it's gonna have a fighting chance, it's gonna have like
spine. I don't know.
Yeah, I really. Like work?
Yeah. I was thinking about it too,
again with Justine, when they'retogether and they're hooking up,
she is obsessed with Justine's nipple ring.
Nipple ring, right? Metal again.

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So she's drawn to that metal. That's a good point to.
The point where she hurts Justine because she's fighting
on it so and it's like. Yeah, she's like, you could go
down there too. She doesn't because she doesn't
stay there. Yeah, she doesn't care to go
deeper. Right.
Oh yeah, that's a good point. Why does she kill all the all
these random people? Is it because she just I mean.

(31:37):
Lips out in in like the part because she kills Justine this.
Happens after she tries to give herself an abortion with one of
her her hair chopsticks. So I mean, why I, I, I don't
know. I, I mean, I get the feeling
that she is just a serial killertoo though.
Because there's a news report and there is a point where

(31:59):
they're talking about a bunch ofpeople dying and then they also
describe her victim, the man in the parking lot and, and says to
remain calm. I don't know, it was like 5
people before that were found dead in similar fashion
basically. OK.

(32:19):
So, I mean, I mean, why did Ted Bundy, you know, I, I feel like
we're looking just at a serial killer at this point.
I you know, why did Jeffrey Dahmer do what he did, you know?
Alexia is 1 tough cookie becauseshe fucking.
She fucks these people up. Oh.

(32:39):
My God, the fucking chair. Oh, even that big dude too.
He was like. Jerome, Jerome, He was a.
Nice guy, I like. Yeah, I thought she was going
to, like, save him and they would be friends because he
like, offered her a place to sleep and everything.
He was really nice. Just to put money.

(33:06):
Stabs him in the back. Yeah, and he's just standing
there naked with his hands over his Dick.
It's like hello. Hello, Guy.
Yeah, he didn't deserve that justice for Jerome.
I was behind the characters killing after the first kill,
and then immediately was like, Oh no, that's not what this

(33:26):
movie is about at all. Yeah, as soon as, you know, as
soon as she stabbed Justine, I was like, okay, Nope, never
mind. This isn't about that.
Yeah, because that douchebag deserved it.
Like, and at first I'm like, holy fuck, she's like into this,
like kissing and shit. Like with this guy, I'm like,
OK, maybe she's into this because I'm like, this guy is a

(33:47):
fucking creep. I was thinking he was going to
like, you know, go after her andbeat her up or something like
that. But holy shit when she pulled
out that chopstick and went right in his ear.
Put it back in her hair. Oh yeah.
Criminal. Oh, she had like goo on her too.
From where he threw up all. Of her, Yeah.

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That's why she had to go back tothe shower.
And that's when she heard the car.
Uh huh. You know, hydraulicing.
You know. Revving up then later on she
fucks a fire truck does she not?Trying to induce labor on that
one, I think I. Don't even want to go into

(34:31):
deeper discussion about what thedifferent vehicles mean.
I was thinking that too. I was like, is this like a gang
bang situation or is this like abig a bigger dude, you know what
I mean? Like.
Yeah. Yeah, you would think a fire
truck would be packing a bigger,you know, fire hose.
And that's the reality of it sometimes you think.

(34:56):
Yeah. Yeah.
So This is why too, I thought that maybe there was something
else between Alexia and like herdad or whatever, like where
there was an abuse going on because she ends up killing her
parents. Yeah, you're not the only one
who thinks that either. Actually, there's there's like

(35:16):
Reddit has discussions in this movie, and anytime you read a
Reddit discussion, there's always somebody in there saying
that her dad abused her. There was this weird scene too,
where he, like she said she has a stomach ache and her dad's
like pressing on her stomach, which is normal for a doctor.
But then she like, moves his hand to down and it's like,

(35:37):
well, and he pulls away and it'slike, well, what does that mean?
I I don't know. When I watched that I felt like
she was instigating things with him and he wasn't into it.
So I don't know, I the whole time I just got the idea that
she's instigating kind of everything that happens and

(35:58):
she's not as innocent as you would be led to believe because
I. Was I was thinking.
Well, I never really thought shewas innocent at that point.
I was like, if she's killed somebody at that point, you
know, So I was. Thinking too, later on when she
is in Vincent's bed before she gives labor and she starts like,
trying to kiss him and things like that.

(36:20):
I thought this was kind of, you know.
Thought of for a father figure what you're.
Supposed to do like how you showlove to your father figure or
whatever and like he was like whoa, you know, like.
What do you what? Yeah, yeah.
That to me is why I thought there was something more going
on. But it's fucked up because like,
her dad wakes up, she looks at him and locks the fucking door

(36:42):
while the house is going on. On fire.
Yeah. And her mom, too, is in there.
And that's the only time we eversee the mom or Oh no, we we see
the mom. No, we see her at the beginning.
Yeah, yeah. OK.
She's really upset with the dad for getting into that accident.
I think that this movie, again, like just has a lot of layers to

(37:03):
it and it's how you want to engage in the movie for sure.
But like, I think as horror goes, like there are definitely
some images in my mind that stick out forever from this
movie. We already kind of talked about
the ending to the movie. I mean, did you guys see this
going any other way for Alexia? Did you think it was going to be

(37:25):
a car? Did you think it was going to be
a baby? I don't know.
I was kind of hoping she'd have the baby and then lived through
it. I was also the first time I
watched it, I was like, when arewe going to see the baby for
like most of the movie, I was like, they're not going to wait
till the very end for this, are they?
And then they did. But But yeah, I was kind of

(37:45):
hoping she'd lived through it. In retrospect, it is kind of was
kind of a foregone conclusion that she was not going to live
through it because, I mean, her stomach was tearing open well
before she went into labor. The the subjects of body horror
like that don't tend to live through movies either.
So there doesn't tend to be a cure that makes everybody all

(38:06):
better. Which is you think, Jill?
Were you interested in seeing the baby or seeing if Alexia
would survive? Yeah, so my other experience
with the director, Julia Ducorno, is raw and which is
also a kind of body horror moviewhere bad things happen to the
main character. But the ending is kind of happy

(38:30):
despite all the horrific things that happened.
So I kind of had hope that this would go that direction.
But like Nathan said, with body horror like this and kind of the
state that she was in, it wasn'tlikely that she was going to
survive. But I don't know.
There, there were hints of the, you know, the moments of joy
between Vincent and Alexia that kind of gave me hope.

(38:54):
Hope. But yeah, they squashed that.
It hurt. Yeah, yeah, I was, I, I, I was
upset that that Alexia died for sure.
I don't know, but if they can make a character death like
that, hurt like that, it's good writing.
It's really good writing. Also, I think some of the best

(39:17):
performances I've ever seen fromfrom these two actors, GAT Rusil
and Vincent Linden. I don't know if I said it got
Rusil's last name right. I know I said her first name,
right? It was her first movie ever too,
right? Yeah, she was discovered on
Instagram by the by the director.
She was an Instagram model. She did great.

(39:38):
Like, really, really great. And it's incredible.
It's performances I think, like you just believe they are those
characters. Yeah, even Vincent too.
He his portrayal I thought was perfect.
Like, I love how you could see the emotion in his, like, eyes
and his face. He sold everything really well.
I thought he was dead at one point, like when he.

(40:03):
Yeah, I don't know what happenedthere like.
He had a heart, He. Passed out after injecting too
many steroids I guess and disasters getting all bruised
it. Was just like wrestling.
He was like an old wrestler. Like the Undertaker getting up
like. I honestly at the end, I thought

(40:26):
it was gonna go a completely different way.
I thought it was going to be revealed that Alexia wasn't
pregnant at all and it was like all in her mind like this is 1
big mental like breakdown and and stuff like that.
Vincent was trying to like snap her out of kind of what she's
dealing with a little bit. So I thought it was going to be
like one of these big twists at the end.

(40:49):
Then when it wasn't, I was like,wow, I'm kind of happy in a way.
They just, yeah, went all the way with it.
Yeah, They didn't pull the rug out from under you.
I don't know. This, this movie doesn't.
It's not concerned with like, logic, I guess you'd say.
It doesn't tie itself to realityin any serious way.

(41:10):
I like that about it as well. It sort of reminds me of like a,
a David Lynch feel like in that way.
I have to tell you, one of my favorite letterbox reviews was
This is Eraserhead for the LGBTQcommunity.
I. Was like that checks out.

(41:32):
Yeah, that sounds about right. You know, Gay Eraserhead.
I was thinking like bait, like Iwant to see the baby, but would
the baby be like eraser baby? You know what I mean?
What are we getting here? Cursed.
I think though the the ending shot the baby the baby.

(41:55):
Question mark question. Mark, I think the ending shot of
Vincent holding the baby was like perfect.
Like that was the perfect shot to really end it on.
Shoot. On you couldn't have kept going.
I like that one has served this story well I think if you played

(42:16):
it out more. When that ended, in the Teton
title screen came up the white lettering.
The first time I watched this I was just like stunned for like a
minute. What did I just watch?
I cannot believe what I just watched.
Catch your breath a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I, I mean, I don't
think I've ever seen another movie quite like this.

(42:39):
There's other movies with similar themes and doing some
similar things, but this one is like it's one-of-a-kind and all
that it does so. Like Joe said this, this does
have a Lynchian vibe though where it's just like different.
Also it's another French chick movie that starts with a car
crash. Oh.
Because I remember you saying something about that about RAW

(43:01):
on its slays, Jill. And inside.
Yeah. Also did the same thing.
And the substance. There you go.
And they are all kind of body horror.
That's cool. All by French women.
That's cool man. French women, they they know how
to make some liquid car. I haven't seen inside yet, but.

(43:27):
It's messed up. Yeah.
The. French.
There's something wrong with them.
Yeah, they're, they're crazy. You know, movie kind of starts
with car porn right during the opening credits.
It's just like pictures of the inside of the car.
Oh my God, yeah. It's getting you ready, teasing

(43:47):
you a little bit, gets you thinking what you're going to
see. I don't think anyone could be
prepared. No, no, the purple like scene
where they sort of turn the Firehouse into a club with
purple lighting, I thought that was just incredibly well done.
There's not much to say about it.
They're mostly just dancing to that amazing song.

(44:16):
I looked it up, it's Lighthouse by Future Islands.
I loved that song so much. Yeah, it's funny.
There's another song going into the the car, like where they're
dancing on top of the car at thebeginning.
There's another song that's played that I really liked.

(44:42):
The music choices are amazing inthis.
I also like what she's dancing on top of the fire truck and
she's making all the boys uncomfortable because, you know,
we're being gay, but we're not being that gay in that scene.
Basically, it was Wayfaring Stranger by Lisa Abbott.

(45:11):
And I thought that song was great too.
I I The music in this movie I think is truly.
Incredible bluesy 1. Yeah, yeah, the bluesy sort of
Etta James style 1. I like that a lot.
Those scenes, particularly with the music and the lighting how
it was, were really reminders ofone of my favorite movies, Love

(45:32):
by Gaspar Noi Like. Isn't he French too?
He's French too, yeah. Yeah, he's French too, OK.
All these French people. I know making fucked up movies.
That aesthetic, though, is so good.
It's it's. It's really good.
It's like dreamlike. Yeah, we didn't talk about how

(45:52):
Vincent hallucinates a burning child in that fire simulation
thing. Yeah, that's a good thing that
you brought that up. I was going to ask like if that
was a representation of his. Well, that's what I'm.
Wondering does does anybody think that maybe the child's not
missing at all and done that he,the kid died in a fire and he

(46:13):
knows it and but he can't handleit.
So he reported the child missinglike it's another layer to it.
I I feel like because that's notbrought up ever again.
Right, Yeah, I was thinking something similarly to or 'cause
I I had a question. I was like, wait a minute, his
kids missing or his kids dead. Like because of that visual of

(46:34):
that child burning in the. Fire yeah, that's a good point.
I don't know, it's just, it's just the thought it, there's
nothing, nothing more to it after that, but it just that,
that image, it's terrifying for one and and two, like it's, it's
got to represent something right, like and it never gets
clarified. Maybe it could represent the

(46:56):
fact that, you know, the last time he had his son, he was a
child. And now he's like an adult.
He's so different and he's like mute and just like, not kind of
what he expected, but he loves him anyway.
Maybe he's kind of like mourningthe loss of like that idea of
this child. I don't know.
Yeah. Grasping here.
I. Think grasping is the only thing

(47:16):
you can do, Really. Yeah, because I mean, mine was
grasping as well, like, but yeah, that that could be it too.
I don't know. It's it's cool.
There are so many visual metaphors and stuff.
And I think the car fucking is a, is a metaphor for something.
I just don't. I don't know what.
Really good maybe? Maybe objectification, like the

(47:40):
fact that in the beginning and the fact that she's not really
attracted to humans. Obviously, if we're tethering
this to reality, if she really got pregnant and we're just
saying like the the car is kind of like a metaphor or something
like that. Maybe it was just like, you
know, she was objectified, like left behind by some guy.

(48:00):
She has to carry on, have this kid by herself and right, you
know. Yeah, there actually also is a
theory that I saw in Reddit thatthat she's not pregnant by a car
at all, and that the child is actually her father's child.
Oh God, like the abuse. Jesus, I don't want to think.
I hope that's not the case. If it is, you'll never know God

(48:22):
for sure. And that's like what Jill said.
I think this movie does take a lot of marinating and thinking
about. Yeah.
And seeing how you feel about it, because it's not black and
white at all. Be a third watch, at least.
I raised my letterbox score on this movie.
Actually the first time I watched it.

(48:43):
I gave it four stars and then I decided I had to watch it again
four days later and I was like no I'm wrong.
This is a 5 star masterpiece. Wow, think.
You're on to something there. Yeah, it's time for quote or
kill. We're going to give you our
favorite quote of the movie or our favorite kill of the movie
or bowl. For me, I don't know if anyone's
joining me in this, but the chopstick to the inner ear death

(49:05):
was my favorite kill. I'm joining you on that one.
That's my favorite kill as well.It was gnarly.
Yeah, really gnarly. Yeah.
I think what made it so, like, memorable for me is not only
does the guy, like, start throwing up, but his eyes roll
in the back of his head. Yeah.
And it just, it sold it pretty good.

(49:26):
He's not really throwing up. He's like foaming at the mouth.
And I don't know if that's like an accurate depiction of what
would happen to you if you got achopstick in the ear, but it
made me believe very real. And, and the violence in this
movie is sort of, it's very matter of fact.
It's very just brutal and it feels real.

(49:47):
It's this movie has a lot of style.
And then all of a sudden it becomes almost documentary when
the when the violence starts, we're we're just filming this
thing that's happening and it's it's tough to watch.
Yeah, for sure. And this one, I couldn't get it
written down verbatim, but my favorite quote is Vincent brings

(50:11):
Alexia into the Firehouse for the first time and they're
cooking. And he goes, I'm God.
He's like, and this is my son. He's Jesus.
Should you? Yeah, I just love that asserting

(50:33):
his, you know, presence popped out his chest and was making it
known that, like, no one's fucking with him.
And maybe this goes to your point too, Nathan, that he knew
too that like this isn't his kid, but.
Yeah. I mean, Ryan is is obviously
very suspicious from the very beginning.
And jealous. And jealous a bit, yeah, 'cause

(50:56):
like maybe Ryan sort of thought of Vincent as a father figure.
It feels like a little bit all. Right.
How about you, Jill? So for me, it's kill.
It's the one in that big house right after she kills Justine.
I love that whole sequence, by the way, where they're just like
fighting and they're both just like really struggling It.

(51:18):
It's just so physical, like the way that she like grasps on to
Justine's breasts. Like you can hear them like
smack and they like tumble down the stairs, I think.
And I really like that scene ANYWAYS.
And for the kill, the guy who gets like the chair leg through
his mouth. Disgusting.
It was so nasty. And then she sits on it

(51:38):
afterwards, which is hilarious. She's like, so tired.
She's got to catch her breath. Yeah.
So yeah. And then they, like, linger on
that shot, too, for a little bitand kind of pan out.
So I don't know. I really like that shot.
But yeah, that's my favorite kill.
Did you have a favorite quote orkill Nathan?

(51:59):
My favorite quote is is Vincent as actually he's bringing Alexia
into the Firehouse at the very beginning of their relationship
there and he grabs her and says anyone hurts you I kill them.
Got it. Even if it's me, I'd kill
myself, I swear. And then it's just sort of very

(52:26):
uncomfortable in in that moment,but you sort of realize that he
means it. And he actually did kill Ryan
because Ryan is trying to hurt her.
I don't know. It's just sort of, it goes to
Vincent's character sort of who he is, this sort of flawed and
and broken man, but he's capableof much love.

(52:47):
It's time for a letterbox rating.
We're going to rate this movie from one to five stars. 5 is
Vincent, one is Alexia's father for me.
It's funny because I watched this before and I gave it 3 1/2
stars. I'm actually staying at 3 1/2
stars. I think this is a really strong

(53:08):
movie for me. It is deep, is a tough watch and
that's why I can't go up more because like it does take a
little bit of effort for me to sit down and watch this movie.
I think it is it is a really good movie and I think if you
haven't seen it, you should watch it because it's different.
Like Nathan said, it's differentthan a lot of movies we've all

(53:30):
seen. And Jill said too, there's a lot
of layers here and it it kind ofis up to you on how you want to
interact with the movie and interpret the movie a little
bit. I think if you're a horror fan,
there's a lot to like. The kills are brutal.
The body hoarder horror is really well done.

(53:50):
It makes you squeamish and scenes and you know, you want to
turn away, but you're not. It's kind of like a kind of like
the car accident a little bit. I think for me, I saw it as a
very hopeful ending. So I kind of like that because
it is a very, I think heavy movie overall, but I think that
this one is really good. I you know what I got to say

(54:10):
like maybe another watch or two.I'll put it up a little bit
more, but I'll let it marinate. Jill, how about you?
Yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat as you.
I just watched it today, so it'sstill pretty fresh.
And like you said, I I kind of need to let it marinate.
Maybe it'll go up a bit once I let it kind of settle and think

(54:32):
about it some more. It's tough because I do want to
rewatch it, but I think I'm going to need some time because
it was really difficult to watch.
Like, I also watched this on Tubi, so every time there was an
ad, I would get up and go do something because I was like
stressed watching it. But I think there's a lot of
good body horror, like you said,the kills.

(54:54):
There's just like some wholesomeand some funny moments in this.
And I don't know, it can be enjoyable, but it's also, it has
a lot of heavy content in it. Yeah.
So I'm also going to give it a 31/2 stars with the potential to
go up. I was thinking about four stars,
but I think I need to watch it again and, and think some more

(55:16):
about it because I would also like to watch it and see if I
can see how Vincent knew all along.
You know what I mean? Maybe that would change how I
feel about it. So yeah, 3 1/2 for me.
I thought it was pretty good. Why don't you finish this off,
Nathan? Well, it's Dad.
No secret. I'm giving this movie 5 stars.
I think this thing is a masterpiece.

(55:36):
I think it's beautifully made. I I think it's complex.
I think it challenges you to find beauty in some grotesque
things. I'm always a fan of surrealism
when things become untethered from reality.
And I'm, I'm a fan of when you just forget about how things

(55:58):
would go in real life and just try and make the audience feel
an emotion. I, I love this movie.
I really do. Five stars.
No, Nathan doesn't rate much five stars so especially had an
impact, right? Yeah, I don't know, it just, it
makes me tear up a little bit sometimes.

(56:20):
I don't know, like when his wifeis, is is talking and she's
like, I don't care why, why you're here.
I want you to take care of him. I just, I don't know.
I felt that I it was, you know, 5 stars.
I felt it too. Before we end the episode, we
want to let you know what we've been up to.
I watched a couple of movies, actually.
I've been watching a lot of movies.

(56:40):
I'll be honest. I'm going to go over all of
them. But I did watch 1 from 1984
called Body Double, which is a Brian De Palma film.
The same guy who did Carrie. Oh OK, he did Scarface as well.
And Scarface, right? Yep, and Scarface.
It was pretty good. I gave it 3 1/2 stars on my

(57:01):
letterbox. It's voyeurism.
Is that it? Voyeuristic, Yeah.
It's kind of like a murder mystery sort of deal.
I thought it was really good. It has a lot of twists and
turns. It has some trashiness to it,
which I love. Yeah.
But that's always good. Yeah, I highly recommend it.
It was a fun time. On to newer movies.

(57:23):
I watched the new Superman 2025.Yeah, I saw you also weren't as
enamored with it as everybody else.
Yeah, I gave it 30. Stars, Your son's gonna be upset
about that letterbox rating. My boy Kevin.
Yeah, Logan loved it. You know what I think for me the
the disconnect I have is and he said in a couple other people

(57:45):
have said it like this Superman is like kind of what would it be
like if Superman was real? Like if he existed in real life.
And because a lot of it is depressing for me, like, I don't
know, an hour and a half of thismovie is pretty depressing.
And then like, Superman is Superman or whatever.
But I like my superheroes with alittle bit more like

(58:07):
cartoonishness to them because they're superhero movies.
Give me a little more fun. So I rated three stars.
What are you? This is like the most fun
Superman movie there ever was. What do you mean?
There's no fun. James Gunn did this.
Man, this is like the most Marvel Superman there ever was.

(58:29):
No, I don't know. I've never seen this movie.
I don't know what to say. I don't know who to agree.
I'm in I'm. In my Superman.
Right. The only Superman movies I've
even seen parts of are they Christopher Reeve ones from the
80s and stuff. So.
What are you doing? I love the Christopher Reeve
Superman movies. Those are some of the best
superhero movies of all time in my.

(58:52):
Actually, you probably wouldn't like any of the, like other
Superman stuff because it's likeit is more like gritty and
stuff. Gritty.
Yeah. That's for Batman in my opinion,
but. They're in the they're in the
same universe. I know, but Superman's supposed
to be uplifting and and. I mean, he's uplifting, but

(59:13):
there's. Batman's the guy who's like, he
comes out of the, goes into the gutters and whatever, you know,
Batman operates at night, Superman operates during the
day. That's my opinion of the, you
know. I like it.
I also watched 3 new horror movies.
I watched Sweet Revenge, which Nathan, I saw you also watched

(59:34):
as well. Yeah.
I also watched it. Oh, you did too.
Awesome, I didn't see it on yourletterbox, that's why.
Cuz I forgot to put it on. I'll do it right now.
Yeah. You watch it on YouTube.
Yeah, yes, yeah. So it's the 13 minute, I guess,
short film for the new Jason. It was done in conjunction with
Apple Orchard. Is that it?

(59:56):
I don't know. All I know is I didn't like it.
Yeah. I get I gave it three stars.
I thought it was like it. It's 13 minutes.
I actually, I prefer if you likethis, I would say go out of your
way to look up the Never Hike Alone series on YouTube for
Jason because I thought those short films are amazing and

(01:00:17):
actually they combined them all to like 1 full movie now.
So you can check out the edit onthat which I think is awesome.
I gave it three stars. Nathan, you didn't like it, you
said. No, I gave it 1 1/2 stars.
This could have been made by some really talented Youtubers
and I would have been more happywith it.

(01:00:39):
I guess knowing that it's actually backed by like real
money in a real studio or whatever makes me go.
Maybe you should have written a story.
Not a better story, but a story at all.
You didn't. So, I mean, I know you can't fit
that much story into 13 minutes,but you can fit.

(01:00:59):
Some something right, Jill? What'd you think?
So I didn't even know what I waswatching because Anthony put
this on the other day when I wasover there, and I think we were
like eating lunch or something, and he just put it on.
It's pretty low stakes because it's like 13 minutes, right?
So yeah, it's like something good to put on when you're
eating. So he didn't tell me what it was
here. She left slip.
He was just like, this is sweet revenge.

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And then near the end, he's like, do you know who this is?
And I was like, this is this is Jason, this is Friday the 13th,
right? And he's like, Yep.
And then he explained it to me. But so yeah, I thought it was
cool. Like I said, pretty low stakes,
something to put on when you're eating.
I didn't regret watching it. You know, it's only 13 minutes,
so it but I just. I won't be watching it again.

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I don't need to. I didn't like it, so yeah.
Joe, what are you giving in on letterbox?
Damn, I don't know, if you gave it a three stars, I'd probably
give it a three stars as well. Awesome.
And I have to go rate it. I also finally watched the
monkey. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nice. That's a fun.

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I gave this three stars too. I'm like a three star horror
lately. I don't know what's going on,
but. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought it was fun. It's a it's a fun movie.
It had some really good kills and I love the toy.
The the monkey toy is really cool.
Yeah, I love those kind of old vintage wind up toys, so that
was awesome. At Halloween this year, I think.

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Oh, that's cool. That's cool because I really
wanted the the popcorn bucket for it because that looked
really cool. But now they're selling out on
eBay for like 100 bucks and I'm not paying that.
But finally, and maybe Jill can tag team with me on this one, I
saw Final Destination Bloodlinesfor the first time.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I gave it 2 1/2 stars.
I thought it was talking. About how much you liked it in
the text text chain, by the way.You know, I thought you said
sex. Chain me too.
I was like, what? Text text.
Yeah, I mean, I thought it was fun.
I thought it had really good kills.
The opening is pretty iconic, I think.

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But without spoiling it, it just, it had one of those like
at the end, like I'm not sure why I watched this.
Like I felt like it was kind of a waste of an hour and a half a
little bit, but I don't know, itwas still fun.
I mean, if, if you're looking for cool kills and, and stuff
like that, I, I recommend it. For me, it was just kind of

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like, how about you, Joe? What'd you think?
Oh my God, I can't believe you so hard to please.
I am. Yeah, I have really liked Final
Destination Bloodlines. I've been meaning to watch it,
so I put it on over the weekend.Geez, they don't waste any time.
Like I put on the first Final Destination movie afterwards and

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that movie is so slow in comparison.
Like the amount of kills are way, way less, right?
Like it's just like a kind of figuring out what's happening
situation. But here you already know you're
here at a Final Destination movie, you know what the gimmick
is. And they kind of said up this
like Requel kind of situation, which really worked for me

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because they kind of tie it intolike the original story and
those characters a little bit. And they also have lots of nods
to the original, which I really liked, especially the ending.
I'm not going to say anything about the ending, but I was just
like, holy shit. There's a lot of this movie
where my job was just like unhinged because they just like
they don't hold back. They go for it.

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It's disgusting. It was great.
It was really fun time. So yeah, if you like your Final
Destination movies and you like them with lots of kills and
action, it's it's it's fun. It's a fun way to spend however
long it is. An hour, hour and a half, two
hours, whatever. Yeah, for sure.
All right. What else have you been up to?
Something really cool I did overthe weekend, I went to the

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Mahoning Drive in here in Pennsylvania and I went to their
like 80s vampire party annual event that they have.
We watched The Lost Boys and we had Tim Capello come and perform
live, which was really awesome. Yeah.
I could die happy if that happened.

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Quite an enigma. He is really like a character.
He told us like little anecdotesand stories in between
recording. And he just kind of has this
like rock star personality that you're just like kind of glued
to hearing what he has to say. And then we watched the Lost
Boys. It was really magical seeing it

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with all my friends and we're all really excited and it was
just, it's one of those magical movies and it holds a special
place in my heart. I really love it.
So it's a really fun viewing andwhen I was watching it, I was
like, wow, this is really just the craft for men.
Like it pretty much is the same thing.
It kind of is, yeah. Yeah, they are pretty similar,

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aren't they? Yeah, it really is.
I could write a whole whole thesis on it, and the last thing
I watched was Dead Ringers. David Cronenberg watched it for
its latest podcast. I like this.
I gave it, I think a yay on there, which is like 4 stars on
Letterbox. Yeah, it was fun.

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It's a really interesting movie.You seen it, Nathan?
Or. Yeah, yeah, I like that one a
lot. There's a it's funny that
there's sort of a homoerotic energy between Jeremy Irons and
Jeremy Irons. It's like some incestuous
energies. Yeah, but it's the same actor.
Yeah, they keep swapping women and all that.

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Yeah, yeah, he has a really goodperformance in that movie for
sure. Yeah, definitely a lot less body
horror than I'm used to in a David Cronenberg movie, but
still good nevertheless. And I think it's like a lot of
lists. It's like one of the top like 10
iconic movies from Canada or like one of the best Canadian
films. Cronenberg's got to be on that

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list a lot. Probably, yeah.
So we claim him. You guys can't have him.
I. Know, I know.
But yeah, it's all I've been up to.
Nathan, what have you been up to?
I watched Basket Case, actually got a little bit of a history
with this movie at one point. Kevin and I and a couple of our

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other friends were suggested to watch this movie back in high
school by one of our friend's parents.
I don't remember which one, and we turned it off about 15
minutes in because we got super,super bored.
But then after watching Frankenhooker I realized it's by
the same director as Frankenhooker and.

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I was like, I didn't know. That I ought to give this an
actual chance. And it's it's pretty good.
It's pretty good. It's not nearly as good as
Frankenhooker, but it's not turnit off after 15 minutes worthy
either. I like, I got to the part where
we turned it off and went holy shit, we didn't give this thing
a chance at all. We.

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We are pretentious little high school kids, you know?
Yeah, I think we just decided itmust be bad because that
friend's parents told us it was good.
Honestly, that could be true. So you know what though, Nathan?
We saw Motel Hell on a parent recommendation and that wasn't
bad. I remember kind of liking that.

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I think it was, yeah, I liked Motel Hell and I think it was
the same parents too, I think. So yeah.
It's got a drummer's parents. Yeah, like, who else would
recommend that kind of B movie, I suppose.
Anyway, it's about a guy who hada conjoined twin who is
extremely deformed, and the twinwas surgically removed at some

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point, and the deformed twin wassupposed to die, but he didn't.
And then the conjoined twin is amonstrous murderer.
And there are some scenes, and it was pretty good.
I gave it three stars on Letterbox.
There are some scenes in there that I think probably would have

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become iconic within our friend group had we kept watching.
With it, had we stayed with it, it would have been iconic.
Yeah, there's a stop motion scene of the monster destroying
the room and just screaming the entire time.
It was pretty good. Frankenhooker's definitely way,
way, way better, so hell yeah. But I had fun with it.

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And then I watched Deep Cover. This is a movie by Bill Duke,
who is best known, I think, as one of the guys in the Predator.
It's the the scary silent type one who does the thing with the
Scorpion. It stars Laurence Fishburne and
Jeff Goldblum and it is a neo noir.

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And it is so fucking good. It's a commentary on the war on
drugs and how the war on drugs actually perpetuates the
harmfulness of drugs. And Laurence Fishburne plays a
cop who goes undercover and getshimself embedded deeply within

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this this drug cartel mafia sortof deal with the intention of
bringing them down. All sorts of twists and turns.
It is beautifully filmed. Lots of purples, Reds, Blues
doing that thing that activates the infant brain in me with the
color splash across the screen. I gave it 4 1/2 on letterbox I.

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If you have any love for Neo Noir whatsoever, watch Deep
Cover. I think it it should be talked
about more. Honestly, no, I don't think most
people know much of anything about it to be so.
No, I never heard of it. So that was great.
Now, a couple of episodes ago, Itold you that I watched a movie
called Who Killed Captain Alex? It was the Ugandan film.

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And I told you that I bought it on DVD.
Yes, I I I got in the mail like a month and a half later they
sent me my DVD. Oh yes.
Here is the packaging. It is.
It is signed by the director Nabuana IgG and I have a DVD

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case for this. This this cover will go
perfectly into a DVD case, but Iwanted to show it to you as it
was presented to me at first. So right out of the package.
I'll show you, take it out of the packaging and inside there
is a piece of cardboard that is meant to keep the disc from
breaking. And it says, Commando Nathan,

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welcome to Uganda. I believe a Ugandan child has
drawn me a picture. Awesome.
It's real. I love it so much.
And then on the back it says Mamma Mia Super action yes, yes,
OK. All of which are limes from the

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movie. So cute.
It's so adorable. I love it.
I love it. We've got the actual disc here
and you can see it is literally just a burned disc, a DVDR.
And then on the front, somebody wrote Commando Nathan, you
killed Captain Alex. Oh no.
Damn, Yeah. I'm the one who killed Captain

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Alex. So.
So I I know, right? I I love it so much.
This is something I will cherishfor the rest of my days.
I think. I think this is so cool.
That's pressure. They.
Yeah, that they. Sent this on the wall.
Yeah, I was going to put it in my collection just, you know,

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but I got it. But I don't know.
I killed Captain Alex. It's Commando Nathan.
It's a great movie. Commando Nathan.
It's a great movie. You should watch it.
Everyone should watch it. I I it's on YouTube for free.
I'm gonna watch it, so I'm gonnamake a note right now.
You'd better. Commando Nathan tells me to
watch Long. Yeah.

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Is that it? And that's it.
Yeah, that's it. Oh, awesome.
Actually, I watched Porco Rosso,but I think I've already talked
about that on the show. But I heard that Logan watched
Porco Rosso and I just wanted tocompliment him on his good
taste. Yeah, he loved it too.
You liked it, right? You rated four stars or
something? Yeah.
Yeah, I love Porco Rosso. Logan also loved it.

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It's a lesser known Ghibli movie.
He must get that taste from his father.
I do have good days. Well, that does it for our
review on Teton. We'll be back soon with another
episode, and we're going to be reviewing Jill's pick.
Godzilla -1 I'm looking forward to it.

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My first Godzilla movie, Oh my God.
This is your first Godzilla in general.
In general, Oh. It's a good one to start with.
You are in for a treat. This is the way you should.
This is the way you should go into it.
Yeah. You're getting pure Godzilla.
It is. It is like pure Godzilla.
It's very close to the the olderserious ones I guess you'd say

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before it got goofy. I'm looking forward to it.
But until then, back to the padded room with you.
You have nice seatbelts. You know what?

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Let's get to the car of it all. Damn.