The Guyver (1991) with James Dean

On this episode of Movie Smash!, we discuss 1991's The Guyver directed by Screaming Mad George and Steve Wang and starring Jimmie "JJ" Walker, Michael Berryman, and Mark Hamill. The film follows a young man as he finds a strange alien device that gives him superpowers. With those powers he needs to fight an army of monstrosities.

Hosts: Christopher Roberts, Fergel Amayo, Jeremy Parmentier

Guest Host: James Dean from Monster Kid Productions

Edited By: Christopher Roberts

Produced By: Off Panel Creations, LLC

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
When I say shitty shark movies, Sharknado's is just like one little portion of shitty shark movies.

(00:06):
It's body horror. It's extreme body horror for the time.
Definitely looks like she has died to steal.
Everyone's also trying to get whatever's on SkinnyMaxx that night.
And that was a nightmare for Fergal.
Hello and welcome to Movie-
SMASH!

(00:50):
With me today, I have Jeremy Parmentier.
Hey, this is Jeremy Parmentier, also the RetroVaniacs podcast and the band Subtastics.
And Fergal Lamao.
This is Fergal Lamao, Gothamite Comics, where we get our nerd on and I am fully prepared to fight zoonoids. Let's do this.
And our guest host this evening is James Dean.
Hey everybody, James here. I'm an indie filmmaker and writer and I love all kinds of films, including bad ones.

(01:17):
Whoa, we are not saying The Guyver is a bad one.
Maybe it didn't age as good as we'd like it to age. My most recent watching tells me that, but this cannot be a bad movie.
Well, why don't we jump into it. Tonight's movie is 1991's The Guyver.
Now, at this point, I normally tell you who's based upon the top billing based upon the credits.
And it's funny because the top billing credits for this movie are not who you would expect would be those top billing credits.

(01:42):
So I'm just going to give you the ones that are actual and we'll have a discussion later on about that.
Greg Paik, J.J. Walker and Peter Spellos, I guess that is his name.
And there's a couple actors which should be mentioned, which we'll get to those in a bit.
Directed by Screaming Mad George and Stephen Wang.
They are here among us.
Now.

(02:06):
Screaming.
Nothing less than the fate of the human race is at stake when this girl meets this boy.
I don't know what the hell that is. And I'm not sure I want to find out.
The most lethal weapon ever conceived, a one of a kind prototype.

(02:32):
I am the Guyver.
James, you picked this movie. Why did you pick this classic?
Well, OK, you sent me a list and I think I originally said old boy, but someone else had selected that one.
But I had watched this one when I was a kid and I remembered it being a lot of fun.
But it also has been probably close to 30 years since I've seen it.

(02:55):
So I thought, let's let's let's try it. Let's see if it's if it holds up to what it was like.
And I guess we're about to get into that. But yeah, it was something I had a lot of fun with as a kid.
The monsters, I remember them being fun. I remember the fights being fun.
Yeah, I just had fun with it as a kid. So I think I wanted to revisit that and see if it was still there.

(03:17):
Yeah, I think we picked old boy. We had just finished up recording that and that was a nightmare for Fergal.
So that movie still scars me. That particular version of it scars me.
Maybe I just missed that because I watched the American version.
That one scarred me. But I am going to echo James.
This was a fun movie all the way through has been when you first see it.

(03:38):
First off, J.J. Walker. Let that sit there for a minute.
You got J.J. Walker in there. You got Mark Hamill.
So this is when I was just before after he wielded the lightsaber.
Well after well before jumping in the movie and our thoughts on it, guys, have any of you read the original manga for this?
Not at all.

(03:59):
You know, once this was out, I went back and, you know, check what it was and saw a little bit of like the anime version of this.
But I hadn't read it in full before and only for the prep for this episode.
Yeah, I had a feeling that was going to happen. I did not read the manga for this either.
But for your viewing, James, obviously you've seen this movie and kind of mention it.
But Jeremy, was this your first viewing of it?
It is. I don't know how I hadn't seen it before. I 100 percent knew of this movie.

(04:22):
I 100 percent even remember picking up a box of this on some video rental store at some point,
because if you look up online and you mentioned kind of how, you know, all the top build people are who you'd expect on the American release of this in the box.
It's clearly marked Mark Hamill, the Guyver.
You're like, OK, he's going to be like the main character. And he will get into it.
He's not really. But not just that in one of the versions of the box, you see half of the mask and then half of Mark Hamill's face, implying that he is, in fact, the main character of the movie on the box for the movie.

(04:51):
The greatest marketing twist ever. Now, for me, I had never seen this movie.
I've heard of it. Many people have told me to go and watch this movie. They keep recommending it to me.
But yeah, I actually until James, you forced me to watch this thing. I had not seen it.
I'm hearing these words that just do not sit well with me forced. This was an honor, Chris.
You should be like this was this was amazing. First off, tell me you wouldn't want that armor. I know I would.

(05:17):
Well, Fergal, before we jump into it, none of us are at the Manga. Can you give us a little bit of history on the Manga?
Well, this is written by a gentleman by the name of Yoshika. I'm going to completely slaughter it.
Yoshika Toyaka, he had a pen name as well. This was his big breakthrough book.
1985, 1986 kind of run for a long time. 32 volumes of this manga, multiple different adaptations, an animated movie, a Guyver 1, a Guyver 2.

(05:47):
This thing spawned off some hits. Quick spoiler warning for our listeners. This is the first time you're joining us. Just a heads up.
We'll be discussing the plot of this. I think it's about a 30 year old movie at this point and discuss some elements of the story
that might consider spoilers. But to be very honest with you, if you've watched any Power Rangers, you've seen this movie. So consider yourself warned.
So, James, why don't you walk us through the story of this film?

(06:09):
First up, I just need to say I'm going to make you crawl. I'm going to make you sing because I want that Guyven Jiven thing. Boy.
I had to I had to say that early on. That was great.
OK, a young man discovers a mechanical device that merges with his body biomechanical, turning him into a cyborg superhero.

(06:35):
When strange creatures start appearing, trying to take the device back, he begins to uncover a secret plot to genetically engineer terrifying monsters.
Yeah, I mean, that's that's kind of it. You know, it's Power Rangers. It really is not Power Rangers.
It's the Guyver. I'd say it's closer to Ultraman. If you're going to pick something, Ultraman would be what I throw out there as well.

(06:56):
Oh, come on. You can put that fight scene and we'll get that with the scenes in a bit.
But if you put that one fight scene of them in the warehouse, turn off the volume and turn on the Power Rangers theme song.
It works. It works. So why do we jump into the characters of this movie?
Like I said, the billing for this movie is wrong, to say the least.
I think they were going by first time you're on the screen billing for the credits.

(07:17):
But there is actually there's no top billing for it. So there are a few different characters, which is a character that you enjoy the most.
I like the Guyver. And I just because James brought it to the forefront.
May I just talk about J.J. Walker's ability to play a zoonoid while still retaining the qualities of J.J. Walker?
I just think that alone was an Oscar performance. You know how there are characters who overact that shit out of a movie?

(07:41):
Let's take Legend, for instance, the big red that he overacted the shit out of that movie.
Well, so did J.J. Walker.
And you're right. He was J.J. Walker with prosthetics on or not. He really was.
And what was actually interesting to me was the last line of the movie. He uses his catchphrase, dynamite. But he says it wrong.
Did you notice that? Yes. Well, I think it was on purpose to not be completely over the top for what it was.

(08:05):
I was afraid. Like, was there a copyright problem? Like he wasn't like, he has to be like, dynamite. He has to be like, dynamite.
It didn't feel like to me they were super worried about copyright issues or just blatantly like the movie starts with a screen crawl.
They are fully embracing and trying to pull in anyone from the Star Wars fandom with this.

(08:26):
Oh, absolutely. It's not even there. Yeah, it's blatant.
It's the only way to be worse was like episode four at the beginning of the crawl.
That would have been perfect. As our listeners knows, I hate exposition dumps like that.
And it really you don't really any of that crawl you don't need to enjoy this movie. You really don't need that.
Well, I think the big voice at the beginning sets up what you're getting ready to walk into.

(08:50):
You know, this is one of those things where I, you know, I, I watched this on my phone as I was typing out emails today.
So I was sitting right in front of my computer while I was working on it.
And there were just parts of it where that whole beginning of the thing and then it goes right to Sega Gawa.
And it was like, there's the guy. There it goes. It just jumps right to the whole thing. So you don't have to explain.
Yeah, I think that crawl was really that had filler to add to the runtime because it's less than 90 minutes, even with that, that two to three minute crawl.

(09:16):
Actually, any of the monsters, what they call again, zolinoids.
Which was your favorite zolinoid? I don't know the name of the one that the one look kind of like if it was a dog, but just like half of a dog.
You see it kind of walking back and forth in the kind of end scene. Other than that, all the others are fine.
But I like that one because I was like, I don't even know what you're aiming for, but I love it.
I like the big bad, but I also really appreciated.

(09:37):
I think it was the doctor that got turned into a zolinoid that still had the tie.
The glasses. Yeah, that was good. By the way, quick fun fact.
And Chris, I'm stealing this one from you. Dr. East was named specifically.
Jeffrey Combs picked that role because it was exact opposite of Herbert West, who actually stars in one of my favorite horror movies.

(09:58):
James, I know you appreciate this. Reanimator one to they're all phenomenal.
They just really take it to a whole other level.
She has more wasn't sure exactly how much overlap there was going to be with what the kind of films that I watch and love and what you all love.
Because I only I only listened to a full disclaimer to one episode.
So I wasn't 100 percent sure. But you bring it up. Reanimator.

(10:20):
You know, of course, David is a David Gale. He was in Reanimator. He's in this.
He's the big bad. Like, I love that. I think there's a lot to talk about.
And I think we're going to have fun with it. I really think they went to a horror movie, a horror movie like Expo or Convention and just sort of we need you.
We need you. We need you because you have Michael Berryman in this movie.
By the way, I like his character design. It really felt like a giant gremlin.

(10:44):
Well, I don't think it's a coincidence because, you know, you mentioned this is directed by Screaming Mad George and Steve Wang and then produced by Brian Usna,
who is the producer of Reanimator. He's the writer and director of Briar of the Reanimator.
He was, you know, for society. I don't know if you've seen society, but that's another one.
He was the director for that. They're all kind of this body horror sort of extreme kind of practical special effects sort of movies.

(11:12):
This fight fits right in with that. And all those same actors would come from that same circle.
So it's all like greatest hits of these 80s horror movies in this movie. And I love it.
Actually, it's funny speaking of creature design. J.J. Walker's my daughter watches movie with me and her first thought was he's the wish version of Jar Jar Binks.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's so funny because I after I watched the film twice.

(11:38):
But after that, I wanted to kind of watch a couple of like YouTube videos on people discussing it just to see if there's anything I missed or especially if there was any background information that I wasn't aware of.
And the one person in particular brought up Jar Jar Binks for J.J. Walker.
So your daughter's onto something. I think I think other people feel the same way.
Now, we kind of hinted at Mark Hamill is in this movie. Do you think his role was necessary at all?

(12:04):
Yes, he was the detective. He's the one that said great place for a mirror.
Come on. He wasn't actually a detective in the movie. He was an agent from the CIA.
Yes, that was like your job. I don't understand how that works. Yeah.
I mean, he's the worst secret agent ever in that mustache.

(12:26):
He was basically Luke Skywalker pretending not to be Luke Skywalker.
But yeah, it was funny. He's hiding in that room and somehow he doesn't notice the mirror.
But the hero does. He's like, oh, I'm interrupting. Sorry, I'll go.
I didn't realize this was a three way party, which is even funnier because he was at the the hero was at the crime scene, seeing them talking around all the police cars.

(12:48):
And now he's jealous of the fact that she's talking to the guy who's talking to him.
Like, what is this? So as a kid and even rewatching it, because I forgot so much about the film, to be honest with you,
after the initial, I guess, a third of the way in where Jack Armstrong, Sean Barker, the character of Sean Barker, once he kind of falls originally,

(13:11):
I kind of in my head, both this time and as a kid, thought Mark Hamill was going to take up the guy.
I thought he was going to become the Guyver. And, you know, again, the poster, the VHS cover, you know, having his face as part of it.
And I was like, oh, it's coming. It's coming. I mean, it never did.
But I think they really heavily leaned on that trying to get people in.

(13:33):
And I think as a kid, it did disappoint me. Now, I think at some point it kind of dawned on me.
Oh, yeah, that's not what happens in this movie at all.
The it's interesting to my likes of my daughter watches movie with me.
And at the end, when Sean Barker transforms from the Guyver back to himself and he's sitting there, she asked, did they CGI Mark Hamill to look younger?

(13:56):
I was like, no, this is well before that that technology even existed.
Did anyone watch the I think it was a Blu-ray. There's actually an R rated version of this, which I did not watch.
Was he naked? Because I mean, I'm assuming this movie can't get R rated.
It's four minutes longer. That is true. It's four minutes longer. But I have no idea what it's about. I did not see it.
They're supposed to be quite a bit more gore or like, I guess just everything's kind of extended in that way,

(14:22):
which would make sense with Brian Yazda and like you'd like I think Jeremy was saying with, you know, everything he's done, everything he's been a part of.
Like think about Reanimator Society. Oh, my God. You know, that's that's a pretty goopy film.
You know, it's pretty close. That's an understatement. But yes, yeah.
But yes, I could see how there would be a longer cut. I kind of wish I'd watch that as well, but I don't have access to it.

(14:47):
So I just didn't know if any of you had watched it.
No, there's actually it's funny. There's a scene where Dr. Segway, the doctor who has top billing and dies five minutes into the film.
Dr. Segway, I think it was his name. Yes.
Michael Berryman shows up and he's holding him. The doctor goes, it's you. And then it pans over.

(15:08):
You see it's Michael. And then I said, it's you. You know, I was excited that I didn't realize he was in this movie.
Yeah. But there's a lot of moments like that in this film where I feel like they're they're talking directly to the audience.
Oh, yeah. They know what they're they know what they're making.
There's a scene that you're not quite sure what happens. This woman starts screaming and I'm like, oh, that's Linnea Quigley.
That's screaming for a reason. It's because they're breaking into some other horror movie set where she's the scream queen in the movie, which is all it.

(15:31):
You know, it's it knows exactly what it's referencing. It's not taking itself too seriously.
But at the same time, it's also not just comedy because that would be unenjoyable. It's that kind of weird balance.
The same kind of balance with society, honestly, where it's it's funny, kind of gross, kind of, you know, kind of as a story to tell as well.
And it keeps you interested. I have not seen this movie society. I've seen Reanimator one and two.

(15:52):
It's one of my favorite all around movies, but it's society in the same vein as Reanimator as the same thing.
It is in its own box. There's not much else like society. It's body horror. It's extreme body horror for the time.
I mean, there's it's not torture porn, but it's like you got to see it.
You got to see it yourself. And then you'll be like, why did you tell me to watch this? Don't watch with your kid.

(16:13):
That's what I would say. Well, somebody told me I do that with Cemetery Man and I'm still having struggles on that one.
Yeah, for our listening audience, the face Fergal's making with that description was quite on point.
Given that the casting of casting, the billing is all messed up.
Who would you put in your top three that should have been the top billing for this movie?

(16:34):
Jack Armstrong, for sure. Definitely. I think he did a pretty good job for Guyver.
I would definitely put Mark Hamill. I mean, you have to from like a producing standpoint.
There's no way around not putting him in the top three. I don't care if he had a five minute cameo.
He would always get a top three. Just yeah.
Yeah, I also think the guy who played in Reanimator, well, Jeffrey Coombs.

(16:55):
And I think you round out the other one with the other guy who played David Gale. Yeah, David Gale.
If you want to add a little bottom, you could put Merriman in there just because he was in Weird Science.
So you're telling me J.J. Walker should not be number two?
Well, J.J. Walker. No, J.J. Walker gets in there. J.J. Walker is a surprise cast member. He's like Blade.
You didn't expect him to come walk into the door.

(17:18):
I think we need to see more J.J. Walker show up in him. Just random cameos in movies.
He's on LA Insurance. If you have a kind of rewind to more commercials, he comes on those.
I feel like he was on one of the. So my buddy and I, we love like shitty shark movies.
And I feel like I saw him in one of those somewhere, but I don't know.
I mean, so when I say shitty shark movies, Sharknadoes is just like one little portion of shitty shark movies.

(17:43):
But it encompasses so many shitty shark movies.
There's a lot. There's a lot more than you think.
There's probably hundreds at least. Yeah.
And I have actually found a shitty shark movie that's a comic book movie.
I'm hoping that gets on our agenda one day.
Is it Jeff? Sure. Because I sold those at my store.
It's based on a South American comic. The movie came out, I think, last year.

(18:06):
Why? Our listeners are trying to go on Google right now, trying to figure out what it was.
I'll save it for later. So let's jump into the plot a little bit.
I think this movie, there are a lot of great characters, but I think the majority of this movie is not about sort of a character arc or anything like that.
It's really just about the monsters and what they're doing and the scenes we're seeing them.
What was one of your top scenes from this movie?
I mean, for me, it's really hard to pick a scene.

(18:30):
I like certain aspects of scenes.
I think that the final fight is impressive.
It's not impressive by today's standards, but when you put all the pieces together and know what they did to create it,
the miniatures and maybe stop motion, but definitely miniatures mixed in with just creative camera angles,

(18:53):
I really enjoyed that. I really enjoy the transformations and how they're shot and how they show them.
I don't want to jump too far ahead because I feel like I'll be taking all of everybody's...
Oh, you're definitely taking all our juice. I'm going to leave it with the...
I'm going to leave it with when it turns into Guyver. I think that's where we're going to stop it right there.
It's honestly... the movie, for me, goes from like, OK, this is so cheesy and I'm having fun with it, but it's so fucking cheesy to like,

(19:20):
holy shit, that was such a really... it's like a really cool transition or as someone's changing into a monster or a zoonoid.
They did a really good job with that.
And when I tried to transplant myself back 30 years ago, it was absolutely perfect.
Just the way they implemented the transitions and some of the fights.

(19:42):
Some of the fights are lackluster, but it is what it is.
For essentially being guys in rubber suits, it actually moves really well.
I was surprised at how not Bach... you see some of the older Godzilla stuff and it's like,
oh, they just are running into each other and there's some slow motion throws and they zoom in on a hand to get something.
But no, these are actual pretty good fights even in these ridiculous suits.

(20:04):
And these are amazing suits. I mean, Jeremy, you and I were on another show talking about TMNT 3.
Oh, yeah.
This is miles from there. This might be as good as TMNT 1 when it comes to these prosthetics.
I think they're better. I think they're more interesting too. You've got a lot more going on.
I think the Guyver suit specifically has a lot to it.
Like it doesn't look hard and hard to move. It looks very, very slim, but still looks really good.

(20:28):
Isn't this during a time when horror was really making a prosthetic driven comeback,
like really just trying to make more realistic prosthetic?
Personally, I would say yes. I think the 80s were the golden era of that.
This was, I think, 91, if I remember correctly.
So you're kind of on the tail end of that, but it's well before CGI was being used as heavily as it is today.

(20:49):
So yeah, I think it's still kind of going strong in that era.
And I think this kind of movie just leans into it so much.
I'm trying to remember what the exact term was. Is it tokusatsu?
Again, I probably said that wrong, but it is, let's see.
It's a Japanese term for a live action film or television program that makes heavy use of practical special effects.

(21:11):
I had to read that for my notes because I was never going to remember that term.
When I had posted about the movie originally, when I watched it the first time a few weeks ago,
someone had brought up, oh, I love all of these. And then they said tokusatsu films.
And I'm like, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about, man.
Because I'm not afraid to say when I don't know something. So I had to look it up.
And it's interesting that there's a term just for that kind of movie in Japanese.

(21:34):
It feels like it's very, it feels like a live action cartoon.
So much about it lends itself to that. The sound design, the fights, just so much.
Back to the scenes real fast. The first fight scene when the Guyver learns he's the Guyver,
he gives his first transformation. I do like the, I think it really tells a lot of the humor of this movie.

(21:57):
Because when he puts it as a keto stance, you're ready to fight the gangsters.
They all go in the exact same stance at the exact same moment as if on cue.
At that moment, you know what you're getting into with this movie.
Well, in that scene during the fight when he sees the reflection of himself and he's like,
Oh my God, what am I? Or whatever. That's pulled directly from the original manga, which is pretty neat.
His first appearance, he does the same thing, but he's like, he sees his reflection, freaks out,

(22:19):
doesn't know what it is. And when he freaks out, he screams and the suit goes away.
It's almost exactly the same. There was a lot of, they pulled a lot from the source material,
even though it's not based in Japan. It does have a lot of other, you know, licenses taken
so that it made more sense for the timeframe where it was filmed. But it's still,
there's a lot of like nods to the original source material.
Well, to the quality of the special effects too, in that scene where he transforms for the first time

(22:41):
and he like smashes that disc on his face and the goo comes out.
My daughter actually, you know, gasped in that moment. She watches real horror movies, you know,
comes out recently, better special effects. So to have it had that kind of effect on someone,
a teenager 30 years later, that's a good sign.
I would guess, you know, you have special effects artists that are directing the film.

(23:02):
You have Brian Yesna, who's always leaned heavily into it.
I think that is such a strong point for the film and not just in the use of practical effects,
but like you said, how effective it is still 30 years later, you know?
Yeah, I think that really goes a long way.
The first transformation for Guyver, you see when he's, it's like this thing covers him up

(23:23):
and it's almost like a blob sort of, and then you see like eyes come out of it.
It's all very graphic, but in a great way. Like I love the transformations in this,
both the transformation into Guyver and then also later on, and we've already said there's going to be spoilers,
the Guyver pat dies at some point in combat. That whole scene's great.
The re, it's not animation, but like the regeneration, I guess, of the Guyver, the way that's all explained.

(23:45):
I loved all the reanimator of the Guyver. Those are all really cool effects. I really enjoyed those still.
I am so bad at keeping on topic, so I apologize.
I want to, I want to say one thing about when he's like reborn.
I did anyone else notice that for about six or seven seconds of the score, I went back and re listened to it like eight times

(24:07):
because it's his elbow blade that pops out and it's kind of ripping reminiscent of a shark fin.
The score, okay, okay, good, good.
The score kind of takes on the Jaws theme for like five to six seconds.
And I did it, did it, did it.
I laughed my ass off. I was like, that is so great.
These guys knew what they're making and they weren't going for anything better than what they're going for.

(24:33):
And James, you sort of hit on it. The fact you have special art, special effects artists directing this movie.
It's kind of like a Fergal. Remember we did Tom Blonde a little while back and it's directed by stunt coordinators.
And you get an amazing stunt related movie.
And I think that's true of this as well. These stunt guys do weird wacky stuff.
So you've got a good sense of humor about it and they're making a movie that they know it's not going to be Shakespeare.

(24:56):
It's not going to be some amazing thing, but they have fun with what they have.
And they did an amazing job with what little money they had for the budget.
Time was three million dollars.
You know, it didn't get favorable reviews, not like Guyver too, but it still has maintained a pretty strong cult follow.
You can find a lot of subreddit about this.
Did Guyver to get worse reviews or better?

(25:18):
Better. Better reviews. Better because it was gorier, because it's huge more to the manga.
You know, you've got those manga folks kind of hardcore about the material.
Oh, for sure. I was honestly after choosing the movie, I was a little concerned.
I was like, shit, I've never I've never read the mangas.
I think I've read one manga in my entire life. I'm not a huge comic book guy.
I collected the comic cards as a kid. So.

(25:42):
But, you know, like so I was like, oh, man, I don't want to like do this movie like any kind of disjustice, you know, like
I don't just taking it as a film and not knowing a whole lot about the manga.
I kind of wonder or I question if this could be done in a serious manner, how much would it work?
You know, if it was just like really buttoned up, kind of like Dark Knight, like Christopher Nolan style, maybe not with that budget.

(26:07):
But I don't know if it would work very well.
I mean, I feel like it being such a fun ride does so much for this style of film.
I was actually asked that question, you guys, the about remakes and this movie obviously can't bring back all these people anymore for it.
Should they remake it and should they do a dark, gritty version of it?
Could you imagine how that would look and what it would do well?

(26:29):
Well, see, I think it could, but I like the tone of this.
I wouldn't want it to change the tone. I like that kind of funny.
This this movie for every person on this phone and that would actually listen to this episode and be like, yeah, I get what you guys come from.
It's all in the same age back. We hurt unnecessarily and we love shit like this.
This is the stuff we grew up on.

(26:51):
This is kind of how we formed our opinions.
And to Jeremy's point, why would you want to change this shit?
I did not see this when I was a kid. I only saw this seven hours ago.
But you're hanging out with three very cool guys that it does more than.
Yeah, but they went home already.
Oh, Jeremy, I figured I'd let you take that with me.

(27:13):
Just based on your proximity to Chris, I figured you're going to buy that one.
He knows cool when he sees that it's all sitting right here.
I think this movie was was actually probably didn't hit the audience.
It should have hit if it didn't focus on the director and the producer, just the people behind it as opposed to, you know,
I thought this was up until we watch it for now like, oh, yeah, it's like a live action anime thing.

(27:37):
I'll enjoy it, I'm sure. But if I would have known, oh, no, this is from the folks who made the reanimator and society.
I would have rushed out to see this like day one.
Like this is exactly for that audience.
And it also happens to be based on this other sci fi anime property.
Yeah, I think the audience didn't know what they're getting when they got this movie.
I was reading some reviews around that time and the biggest fault they gave was it's too campy.

(27:58):
And now looking back, like, that's the point of it.
It's supposed to be campy.
That's where so much of the joy in my experience came from was that it is campy.
You know, one thing that I absolutely loved about this viewing for me is that when I watched it originally,
I didn't know who any of these actors were because I was probably like 11 or 12.
And I hadn't seen most of most of the movies that I absolutely loved it like reanimator or like even the Hills have anything with any of these actors, honestly.

(28:26):
Exactly.
And now that I was recognizing them left and right and I just didn't even know they were in it.
I, you know, like even Peter Spelos, he I don't know if you guys are familiar with like sorority house master or two or hard to die.
Like just a fun just a fun character actor.
He just passed away last year, actually, you know, just like recognizing and then like Linnea Quigley's real quick cameo.

(28:49):
Like for me, that was fun, like experiencing all these things.
And I knew I watched it as a kid.
I didn't know who any of these people were. And now that I do, it was just another layer of enjoyment to me.
The lady wrestler was the lady wrestler that was the so-and-I'd.
Oh, she was a stunt woman.
She's been a stone for multiple shows before this.
That's what her main career is about is just doing such as a couple of other shows as well.

(29:10):
I think she's a Star Trek one.
Sarah, she's American.
She looks like she's American Ninja Warrior.
Wasn't she was a wrestling movie as an actress.
But most are I look through a whole filmography.
She's mainly a stunt coordinator.
She definitely looks like she has thighs to steal.
I just felt like that needed to be added in there.
Keep that in the deep cut.

(29:32):
Actually, one thing is funny, too, is, you know, the scene between her and Michael Berriman about the whether in a car and they're talking about we'll go to Brazil.
All that was ad-libbed.
I would believe that. Yeah.
And his reaction to her saying, let's still go shopping.
That was his true reaction. Like, what are you talking about?
I'm going to Brazil.

(29:53):
The other scene that was really ad-lib was actually going back to when he was that he hands him the briefcase, the big bad, the briefcase that has the guy over unit in it.
But it's actually been swapped out for a toaster.
That whole scene of how he reacts to the toaster is all ad-libbed as well.
The anger he's showing from it, what he does with the toaster.
But that's all all ad-lib.
Really? That's just that's him going at.

(30:15):
They told him when you open it and it's not the Guyver, just act the way you want to act.
Well, that's what they did.
They went to a sci fi comic con, got a bunch of great actors that were taking photos like, I give you a lot of drugs if you do this movie.
And they all went dead.
It is really interesting that like that little bit of background information in that they're like, just act how you want to act like there was really no direction, it sounds like.

(30:40):
I really think what it feels like to me is these guys who make do special effects.
Someone said, here's three million dollars. Go have a blast.
Here's an IP nobody knows about. Just go have some fun.
You know, the one thing I can definitely say that I think they did a great job with is that I feel like when someone specializes in something and then pivots to directing, they concentrate so much on whatever that one thing is that often it just becomes about that.

(31:07):
Right.
You know, and I don't feel like that was the case with this.
I know that they really do.
What I mean by that is, is they don't linger on the shots too long.
And I feel I've seen, especially in the indie realm, people who have started off with practical effects and then went over to directing.
They definitely linger too long.
It's just, you know, I get it.
I love Gore.

(31:28):
I love I love Splatstick like Brain Dead and Evil Dead 2 are two of my favorite movies of all time.
So I love, you know, if people are slipping around on the blood because there's that much that's been sprayed about, it's that's my kind of movie usually.
But also, if you just keep the camera on that shot for too long, it just it doesn't work.
You know, and I feel like they didn't do that here.
They kind of kept it on what they needed to keep it on just long enough to make it effective.

(31:53):
And so I think they did a good job with that.
I can see kind of back to your point, though, how maybe they didn't do as much directing of the actor.
But I think if you're trying to make a movie that's that campy feel, right?
I mean, something like the 60s Batman shows like that, you don't you don't need to focus that much on the acting.
It's better to get like you're an actor.
We've seen what you do before.

(32:14):
We've worked with you before.
Just go crazy with this.
Like, do you're going to know it's not the guyver when you open the box up, react to how you feel like reacting.
And if they don't like it, they can always just refill it.
Right. But I bet they probably like perfect.
Go to the next thing. There's a lot when you're casting someone, you know, based on what they've done and what you've seen them do in the past, what they're going to bring to what you're making.

(32:35):
Right. So I think you're absolutely right about that.
I think the saying goes around that like casting is like 90 percent of directing.
And it really is.
It's you can't unless you're dealing with the very top, top tier and all these prosthetics and all these things.
You're not going to have someone change their voice and you're not going to have someone change greatly their appearance to become a different character.

(32:56):
You know, most of us aren't working with Tom Hanks or someone of that caliber.
And so, you know, yeah, like you said, just just bringing them in and they knew what they had to offer and what they had done before in the working relationship.
I think that's exactly what it was.
This movie clocks in just under 90 minutes, things like 88 minutes speedwise.
How do you how to go fast, slow in between?

(33:17):
I think it pays perfect. I think it was perfect.
You know, this is one of those movies that you can sit down and watch, get through 90 minutes, not even see 90 minutes path.
I think I think the pacing was fine. I don't think it was I don't think it was slow at all.
I think whenever they needed to throw in something, it was either a joke or an action sequence or a transformation.
And I think they paced it really well. Yeah.

(33:39):
Yeah. We've talked about, you know, other this isn't a superhero, but we've had superhero, you know, their their origin movies.
And some of them take a long time to get where they're going. This did not.
It started fast. You know, I would compare it to we did fairly recently.
The Green Lantern, right, which was fine.
But that's a very similar backstory.
There's an alien thing that makes a guy have an outfit, whatever it becomes a superhero.

(34:00):
Sure. That felt like it was the slowest movie on Earth for parts of it where this I did.
I sat there in one sitting and I was like, oh, that was great. Good job. I enjoyed that.
I didn't need all the the crawl thing being gives you a little bit of backstory if you need it.
But you don't need a lot because it doesn't need a ton of explanation.
It's just go. And I loved it. Chris, you brought up like a remake.

(34:21):
And I was just thinking, I wonder if something like a sequel would even be better by today's standards.
And what I'm what I thought about was the the new Street Trash movie.
I don't know if you all are familiar with Street Trash.
Ryan Krueger, who made Fried Berry, which was a really like psychedelic alien mental fuckfest.
I mean, it was it's pretty crazy. But he he just finished.

(34:42):
I think it's just about to be released, a new Street Trash film and talk about gooey.
It's fucking gooey. I mean, like it has a guy that melts into a toilet.
But they it wasn't a remake. It was a sequel.
And it just came out like 40 years later.
I feel like a sequel to Guyver might do better.
But I don't know. Again, going back to that, like the tone, I feel like no matter what,

(35:04):
you're kind of fucked because if you go campy, kind of like it was originally,
you you struggle with alienating audiences.
And if you go too serious, you also would kind of the people that really loved the original,
they would be scratching their head like, why is this so serious?
I kind of want more of that fun, goofy flavor, I think.
I was just I just yeah, that came up in my head.
No, I think you're right, too.

(35:26):
The problem with a sequel in my mind would be just that is like they want the same tone.
People go to sequels because it's they want some more of the same stuff.
Yeah, slightly different flavor.
They have vanilla before and have vanilla bean, French vanilla.
They want a slightly different version of it, but they want the same thing.
I don't know if there's enough audience to support that kind of movie in today's market.
Now, if it was another small budget movie, as someone said, here's six million dollars.

(35:50):
Go make this thing. It could probably make its money back.
Yeah, but I can't imagine it coming up with a 50 million dollar movie and making its money back.
Yeah, well, and again, the fact that the sequel to this anyway was a little more
of a direct adaptation to the source material and it was a little more serious.
And I guess it was better received. Maybe we're in the minority, right?
Maybe it would do better as a 50 million dollar straightforward action movie with a few jokes here and there

(36:14):
because that's what people want, but not this kind of level of camp. I would.
But am I the target audience anymore? I don't think I am.
And waiting 10, 15, 20 years once this wave of superhero films starts to kind of maybe die down
and space out a little bit, space out with release dates, you know, so it's not every six months or three months.

(36:35):
That might be a more opportune time to try something also like that, really,
because now I think it would just get buried and people would laugh it off.
Oh, yeah. You would have to definitely come out as sort of a sleeper comic book movie where you won't realize it's based on a comic.
Many, many movies like that, like Atomic Blonde, do very well.
They're based on a comic, but people really don't know that until they're actually either at the film
or find out from an interview later on.

(36:56):
I didn't know it was from a comic until I saw it as one of your episodes.
I'm not going to lie to you. I just thought you put the guy in because it was an awesome ass movie.
I did not know there was a comic behind it.
As a comic historian, I'm highly disappointed, Fergal.
OK, I will take that disappointment.
I knew you were going to come with that and I feel really confident in my position.
It's a bad ass movie.

(37:17):
I do feel bad, Fergal.
I think the past three or four movies we've had have been really outside your wheelhouse.
My wheelhouse is pretty broad, too, because I had a lot of brothers growing up.
We had a massive unchecked DVD, our video rental card that we used to go to.
I watched Blood Diner, First You Greet Him, Then You Eat Him.
There's nothing I haven't seen.
James is laughing because he's like, that's on my shelf right now.

(37:40):
That's a Thursday Night View.
I've literally burned through so many horror movies. It's amazing.
This one, I didn't know it was a comic book. It's OK.
And Cemetery Man, sweet mother.
Have you seen Cemetery Man, James?
I saw it earlier this year.
I want to say one thing to counter Chris.
For all of his disappointment in you, I have nothing but positive love and vibes for you.

(38:01):
Of course.
About the she's tits in Cemetery Man.
Of course. Of course.
I believe that was an iconic line.
Yet another one that I brought to the table.
I feel really good about that.
OK.
Like literally best thing about that.
They were real nice.
They were the best.
They were just the absolute best.

(38:22):
You could frame those and put those as a wall.
They would bring down a bad day every day.
If we get a cast mold for you, Fergal, just put that on your shelf.
That's an extra gift, guys.
Just think about it. We're heading into Christmas season.
If you like the show, you want to subscribe, put an extra gift out there.
And just send it to P.O. Box.
This movie being so small and being how old it is, I don't have really sort of interesting sort of what could have been for it.

(38:48):
Except for one thing, they were looking at Steve Baldwin for the for the lead.
What do you want to see that movie as the lead in Mark Hamill's place or as the guy as the guy?
I think the answer to that is no, in both cases.
Oh, yeah. It's the guy who played in Jim Carter.
Am I being too bold by saying this guy did another white man martial arts movie?

(39:11):
American Ninja. I'm going to say because there were a lot of those in the 90s, completely culturally misappropriated ninja movies.
When you said American is now singing Beverly Hills, and I'm like, no, that was Chris Farley.
How can you make those guys?
Chris Farley was the ninja. He was Kung Fu Panda.
He was. Oh, we just didn't appreciate the humor at the time for this movie as a whole, guys.
What do you love about it? What could they have done better?

(39:34):
I think when you give JJ Walker a teeny bit more screen time, I feel like it's the opposite.
Maybe they should give him a teeny bit less.
I would agree. I would agree with that.
I'm on the contrarian side of that agreement.
I would love to see his rap album released.
Yeah, in Zoonoid form. That would be a perfect Christmas album and I would buy it too.

(40:01):
I'd put that on my Facebook page.
My daughter was getting down to some of the things he was putting down.
Certain people transcend and that's JJ Walker.
It's funny that you brought him up too because I was actually wondering, was this the intro where he was trying to make a rap career or something?
I find nothing about it, but that would have been hilarious if this was him trying to break into that.
I'm sure it was him trying to pay his rent. So he did a great job here.

(40:25):
Well, in all fairness to JJ, we all grew up around the same timeframe.
We saw many, many of our Saturday and Monday shows, Tuesday shows, trying to pay rent with very differing degrees.
If JJ was the best and the worst, what else was the best and the worst in this movie?
The Guyver uniform. I just thought that was awesome.
And I thought that transformation for Mark Hamill, nobody's talked about it.

(40:49):
The Mark Hamill transformation was some of the coolest.
For putting him in that five minute movie, his was like, where did that come from?
Because he had such a limited time in the Bafta tank.
Yeah.
He pulled him out of it.
The guy's like, oh, he wasn't in the soup long enough.
Oh my God, that's brilliant.
It was a cool transformation, but they did nicely position the Guyver right there in the middle of him.

(41:16):
So you couldn't see the center of him being transformed, just the edges.
Hey, it was fine. It looked good. It was effective, too.
Yeah. I think that just lends itself to like how you have to be creative when you don't have, you know, a hundred million dollars or, you know, double the amount of shoot days.
Like sometimes you have to lean into those kinds of things.
And they did that a lot in this.
Like, and if they if they wouldn't have thought that through and knew in advance how they were going to approach it, it just would have looked like crap.

(41:41):
You know, it really would have. And they knew that, I think, you know, and that's why they approached it that way.
Oh, they definitely knew. There's certain spots where the camera pans with them being not transformed and all of a sudden it's zoomed on their clothing and all of a sudden, boom, they're transformed.
Like cuts like that made it work.
Yeah.
To James's point, that's how you have to do it when you have like shoot, stream, budget.
But you know, the thing I'll take a laugh at now that we're all at a certain age, we go back and look at these.

(42:04):
You keep bringing up that up for a better age, man.
Are you like having a midlife crisis that we need to know about?
There's a crisis always.
But here's the thing I say, as we as we go through these particular, this is just how my mind operates.
Like why I wouldn't be in a woods? Why I wouldn't be the lone guy camping?
Why would being down in a red shirt?
There are certain things that just come to mind when they're transforming.

(42:26):
Doesn't it feel like instead of stopwatch and take a long jog and get away from them?
Doesn't it feel like you're just be like, OK, I've got at least five minutes before your form.
It's not just that there's a part at the end.
I didn't make a note of this, but I definitely in my head thought that exact same thought when she has the guy.
I can't remember what it's called, but like that ball, the eyeball.

(42:49):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. When she has it in her hand, the David Gale is like, oh, no.
Pause, pause, pause, pause.
Yeah, it was it. It was very I felt like that was one of those moments where I felt like I was watching a live action cartoon.
Again, nothing wrong with that.

(43:10):
Nothing wrong with. Yeah, exactly.
It's like the scene where Mark Hamill is being pinned to the ground by that dog like creature.
And she walks past it, sort of scurries by picks up a microscope, walks back again and winds up her punch and hits inside the head.
And you hear the tree, the tree falling sound as it falls over, which I thought was just perfect.

(43:32):
Well, that whole run up to that point, it was almost like the cartoon thing.
We see them run by and then it follows them.
Then they run the other direction and it follows them.
And it's just in the background that's going on while you're watching the rest of the scene.
I loved it. Yeah.
There's one part where that happens where they go into like a pair of doors and then they run back out.
The elephant one's. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. The cut right there is slightly off and the door shift just oh so slightly at that moment.

(43:55):
But beyond that, yeah, it's like Scooby Doo.
Just watch him running across the screen back and forth being chased by the ghost.
For me, normally I'm really big on character arcs.
And this movie has no character arcs. No.
But I think a character arc would have ruined it.
It's like what it brought the table was just it felt like a bunch of people just having a lot of fun with a lot of money, their prosthetics.

(44:16):
And that's really about it. The plot is not heavy.
There's not a big twist in this movie.
Other fact that Mark Hamill is not the Guyver.
And that's just because of marketing.
It does make it a little more difficult to discuss because, like you said, there's no character arcs, really.
And there's no the plot isn't there isn't really much plot.
It's almost something you have to kind of experience, you know, us talking about it kind of only goes so far.

(44:40):
So I would, you know, I know we're maybe not quite there yet, but I would highly recommend anyone checking this out.
And you're going to know within the first 10 or 15 minutes if you're going to be able to stick around for the remaining 75 minutes.
Because it's not going to change. The tone does not change. Yeah.
In fact, it only gets more of it. Right.
So I guess that's a good segue. So should people go out and find this movie?

(45:03):
Yeah, I mean, I think definitely you can find it, which is a tough one to find.
This is not available on any streaming service regularly right now.
You've got to kind of hunt it down, but it's well worth the hunt.
Oh, wait a minute, my friend. I'm going to have to change.
Unless you pay for it. It's not like on a net. Oh, yeah.
You can buy it. It's not for free.
Google on YouTube, it's currently available at $299. $399 if you want the HD version.

(45:26):
Oh, OK. Or you can have it fall off the back of a truck.
That's how I did it. Like a mysterious box that has a dump.
Yeah, I found it in a red lunchbox. I found it a red lunchbox in Washington.
Do you have the dots at the back of your neck to prove that, Jeremy?
No, they're just scars from being a dumb kid. But yes, I have those too.

(45:47):
I did like the fact that they try to play that these things have been around for a long time as vampires and werewolves.
And I've never seen a werewolf look like those things, except for maybe the red one.
I did like that. I'm trying to connect to a greater universe.
Well, the whole story is about these units have been around.
There's actually three guys in the comic, the dark.
You know, there's an animated movie that also came out as well. Dark Image Entertainment.

(46:11):
The other comic kind of focuses on multiple guy units.
So it's like, you know, in the dark guy in the sequel that's made of this movie, Guyver, which is a completely different Sean Parker, by the way, goes after goes after an anti guy.
A guy who puts his own eye. Yeah. So it is a completely different tone between movies.
Now, me, I think people should go find this movie. It's cheesy. It's campy.

(46:34):
Don't go into a thing. It's some serious movie. Push through it.
I mean, it's not meant to be. Now I'm going to go learn to learn something about myself.
This is not going to take me on a journey where I'm going to discover some new fact about who I am and what I need to be in my life.
No, here we go. You're not a lot of fun. Enjoy it.
I watched it twice in one day. It's a quick watch and it's both times were fun.

(46:56):
I didn't that no point was like, ah, this seems to just needs to get over.
But don't go into it. Expect this to be some amazing life changing movie.
Just go have a little bit of fun with it. It's light hearted.
It's supposed to be light hearted. And the fact that Mark Hamill has a mustache should be more than enough reasons to go watch this movie.
He already had it for body bags, so he kept it.
I just watched body bags for the first time and I could have sworn. Yeah, yeah, I could have swore he had it in that too.

(47:21):
But that was around the same time. Yeah. Thumbs up, thumbs down.
How would you rate this movie? I'd give this a solid Guyver thumb up.
I really honestly as a kid, who wouldn't have wanted this uniform?
There is a point in your life where this would come in handy when you were under the age of 15.
And I'm just going to give it a thumbs up. If you're a lady, just love your man through it.

(47:43):
Because really that's the whole purpose of what's going to have to happen.
I mean, if there's anyone else, I don't know. If it's a kid, I'm sorry.
This is what horror used to look like. I'll echo some of that.
The first half, at least the it is a Guyver thumb up, but it's a guy who are pushing up through the body of another another monster covered in gore and blood.
It's a thumb up. So if you like that, like me, this is right in my wheelhouse.

(48:05):
Do I think it's for everybody? Probably not.
And I guess the original kind of reception at Gut proves that. But I think if you like these kind of 80s horror movies, if you like reanimator, if you like the, you know,
it's a society, it's well worth getting it. Also, I know this is coming out right around Christmas.
If you're looking for a Christmas movie, the same year that Brian Usna did the was the director for this,
he was also the director, writer and producer for Silent Night, Deadly Night 5, the toy maker, my favorite Silent Night, Deadly Night movie.

(48:32):
I would I would give it a Guyver elbow with blade up.
So I guess that's a thumbs up. I have a lot of fun with it.
If anything, I was more apprehensive in how you all would receive the film.
So like I if you're going to like bring some friends and watch it, you may want to bring party favors of whatever that is, if it's drinks or smokes or whatever.

(48:54):
I think that that could loosen people and lower some expectations.
But I think it's fun. And I think if you can put yourself in the mindset of when you were, you know, 12, 13, 14, 15, you're going to have a lot of fun with this film.
So, yeah, I definitely recommend it. And I want to find the R rated version because I want to see that extra gore personally.

(49:15):
I would give it that little antenna. He has the top of his head going up.
Yeah, that'd be my rating for it. I'm snorting behind you right now. My vents just went off, Chris, because you said that.
My eyes shifted ever so slightly and my vents went off. I'm uncomfortable.
This is easily the highest rated movie we've done in our own rating system and probably the lowest rated movie as far as actual ratings go.

(49:36):
So that's where we're at. But I love it. That's amazing.
That is actually I think I got like a four and a half on IMDb. And here we are giving a four thumbs up all the way around.
Yeah, we all were like, oh, it's the best thing is that we've been filmed.
What am I listening to? I think we fit every aspect of the comfortability that you could possibly have.
I'm still starting and my little eyes have just shifted ever so slightly. I'm ready. I'm in combat mode.

(50:02):
But I think you're right, James, about this movie is you got to go in with I want to say lowered expectations, just the right expectations.
Right. In fact, I want to read something real fast. I was telling you this morning I was watching this movie and you said, embrace your 13 year old Chris for optimized viewing.
Very true statement. You have to go into the same yourself. Have a kid's mindset to it.

(50:23):
I mean, for sure. And there are no fart jokes, but you got to love fart jokes kind of thing.
We got your humor is going to be brought down a little bit. Enjoy it. Embrace it.
And if you have a bunch of friends have that plate of nachos and a bunch of beers and you're going to have a great time.
Chris, you and I knew each other and would have hung out watching movies the time this came out.
There is I cannot understand how we did not watch this specifically.

(50:44):
Yeah, you used to have sleepovers like tons of people over. How was this movie not playing in the back?
I know. Well, you know, everyone's also trying to get whatever was on Skinny Maxx that night. So it makes it up.
That are playing River City Ransom all night long.
I actually did have a friend. We all had that one friend who had a super rich growing up and he had a whole game room in his basement.

(51:06):
And I did stay the night over with a bunch of the guys. We did watch this on his big laser desk. And it was amazing.
It was so cool because we were also playing the Russia. He had the I mean, he was the only candidate, the actual full size soccer game of Russia versus America.
And for our younger listeners, a laser disk was a way to watch movies on a record player.

(51:30):
That's the best I've ever talked to me about it at that point.
So before we leave for the evening, guys, I do have one piece of mail bag and I love to get everyone's reaction, including yours, James.
You want to jump in for that? Sure. It goes great episode. I think Fergal might need some counseling after cemetery, man.

(51:51):
Yes, I don't disagree. Yes, I'm actually currently in counseling because Delmorte was so unusual.
So, yes, I appreciate that advice. I've taken better health along the way as well.
James, thanks again for joining us tonight. I think this was a great pick. I really do. And so where can we find you outside the show?
Yeah, I mean, I'm James Dean, which, you know, it's so easy to find that on Facebook. I don't spend a whole lot of time on X anymore at James D 7004.

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I just signed up for Blue Sky. I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you what my handle is just yet. On Instagram, I am at Monster underscore kids underscore productions.
And the reason I said that way is because I'm not 100 percent sure that's it. Yes, I was correct. Monster underscore kid underscore productions.
But, you know, Facebook is where I'm most active, I would say. And yeah, or monster kid films dot com.

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And I think you got a project coming out soon, don't you? Yeah, yeah. So, so actually, with it being Christmas time, I will I will talk a little bit about the film we released last year.
If you guys haven't seen it, I highly suggest, especially some of you might really enjoy it. It's called Triple Xmas.
It's it's about basically Santa Claus loses his shit and starts killing people on a porn set. And it has everything you would expect.

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It has a lot of practical effects, a lot of practical kills, some pretty gnarly ones. And it also has a lot of nudity, especially in the first half.
So I mean, Santa kills on a porn set. I mean, stop right there. Can I get it on DVD? Google? It's on Blu Ray.
It's on Blu Ray. It's it's found a little bit of difficulty finding some streaming services just because it is slightly graphic.

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But it is it's you can stream it for free on Fawesome TV. It's kind of the new to be so Fawesome. It's an app you can download.
It's free with, you know, with commercials. You can rent it. New Village Video dot com. I'll surprise my wife instead of Christmas story.
We'll put this on. You should. You should. Don't don't invite the children around, though. I will say that.
I've got a 16 year old, so I think part of the joke is getting all of them together.

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We had a we had a premiere and one of the actors brought his 15 year old stepdaughter and I was like, dude, you know what this movie is.
And then the other actor brought his grandma and I'm like, what the hell is going on here?
Proud of the word. Yeah. And we actually have a revenge thriller film, which is completely different, much more serious in town called Absolution.

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We'll be looking at that. It'll probably be coming out in spring.
We're going to do a local premiere here in January, February. And it's we just did a picture lock on it.
So we're kind of in the process and also gearing up to start the next one. So yeah, it's busy. Yeah.
And I think you have a movie on Tubi right now. There's something about something about nuns.
Yeah. Fontaine and the vengeful nun who wouldn't die.

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We I fully wanted to embrace the very long 70s exploitation title.
And it really is kind of a love letter to exploitation films.
If you can't take exploitation films in general, probably don't watch it.
Just giving you a heads up. There are there's a graphic matter in it.
We that was our first film. It took us a while to get that one finished.

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And I will forever love it. It's not perfect, but it's a fun film.
It's about a nun chasing down corrupt clergy, Nazis and gang members with a katana.
And she has an eye patch. It's exploitation film. 100 percent.
I have seen it. So that's exactly what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
I appreciate you watching it, Chris. No problem. And Jeremy, where can people find you?

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I'm always available at Retrovania.net where all things Retrovania is held.
I'm actually going to go find XXXmas to watch this evening. Yeah. I hope you have fun with it.
And fertile. Well, I won't get to watch these movies this evening, but I definitely think I'd like to see the
exploitation movie just because I love Black Dynamite and every other movie along that way.

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So but yeah, you know, you can find me on Facebook. We're still kind of working our way through.
We do a lot of individual comic buying at this present moment. So we're definitely doing a lot of that.
So if you want to get your books valued, really get an honest, fair price, get an opportunity to see where you look at.
Come give me a call on Facebook. Awesome. I come and checks up. Awesome.

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And for me, you can always find me off panel creations are always building some piece of noted furniture.
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Oh, I'm interrupting. Sorry. I'll go.