Step into the eerie glow of the '70s showbiz limelight as my guest, Adi Asher, and I dissect "Late Night with the Devil," where ambition dances devilishly with fate. Imagine, if you can, a world where the pursuit of fame could cost you everything, even your soul. We dive headfirst into the heart of Jack Delroy's character, a late-night host caught in the tangled web of his own ambitions. His moral compass spins wildly as he vies to eclipse none other than Johnny Carson. Through the film's single-location setting, we peel back the layers of a mysterious elite club, hinting at the sinister and secretive, much like the cryptic corridors of "Eyes Wide Shut."
Adi and I then shift gears to the darker side of fame. We discuss the shocking extremes some go to for notoriety, contrasting a teenager's assault for TikTok fame with the film's narrative of a Faustian deal that's as costly as life itself. We ponder the eerie similarities between this and the plot of "The Devil's Advocate," where success's shadow looms long and heavy over one's moral fiber. The film's chilling subtext prompts us to question the moral dilemmas we face in our own quests for recognition and the haunting possibility of losing ourselves along the way.
But it's not all doom and gloom; we also share a laugh about our own late-night hosting dreams, tossing around the notion of an OnlyFans account as a quirky stepping stone to stardom. We even dare to dream big, issuing a playful challenge for none other than Quentin Tarantino to grace our podcast with his presence. Whether it's through laughter or critical analysis, Adi and I bring our unique perspectives to the fore, critiquing the film's impact and its reflection of our societal obsessions with the limelight. Join us for a compelling journey into the heart of cinematic suspense and the soul of ambition.
Adi and I then shift gears to the darker side of fame. We discuss the shocking extremes some go to for notoriety, contrasting a teenager's assault for TikTok fame with the film's narrative of a Faustian deal that's as costly as life itself. We ponder the eerie similarities between this and the plot of "The Devil's Advocate," where success's shadow looms long and heavy over one's moral fiber. The film's chilling subtext prompts us to question the moral dilemmas we face in our own quests for recognition and the haunting possibility of losing ourselves along the way.
But it's not all doom and gloom; we also share a laugh about our own late-night hosting dreams, tossing around the notion of an OnlyFans account as a quirky stepping stone to stardom. We even dare to dream big, issuing a playful challenge for none other than Quentin Tarantino to grace our podcast with his presence. Whether it's through laughter or critical analysis, Adi and I bring our unique perspectives to the fore, critiquing the film's impact and its reflection of our societal obsessions with the limelight. Join us for a compelling journey into the heart of cinematic suspense and the soul of ambition.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Late Night with Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Pigeonary.
Welcome to Late Night withMichael Pigeonary as today's
episode of Movies Worth Seeing,while reviewing Late Night with
the Devil.
Hey, everyone, and welcome toanother episode of Movies Worth
Seeing.
I'm joined by Adi Asher.
(00:24):
You always say Adi, adi'mjoined by Adi Asher, you always
say Adi, adi, asher, adi Asher.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Even automatic subtitles doesn't even know how
to spell it anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It says A-I-S-H-I-E-R .
It's not important.
You're the Gus to my JackDelroy.
Yeah, yeah, today we'rereviewing Late Night with the
Devil and, yeah, we justfinished watching it.
Wow, wow, that was anexperience that kind of reminded
(00:54):
me of like when we watched SaltBurn, or when I finished
watching it for the first timeand I was just like, wow, like
that was an experience, and Ihave questions.
This is a bit morestraightforward than Salt Burn,
but I still have a lot ofquestions, a lot of questions
what the ending of that means.
(01:14):
And we're not going to spoil it, but let's start off with the
actual story, the plot of LateNight with the Devil.
Essentially, this movie is setin the 70s, the late 70s, and
we're following Jack Delroy,who's a competitor to the late
(01:34):
great Johnny Carson, who was abig late night host in America,
set the standard for the latenight show host, set the
standard for the late night showhost and unfortunately, it's
gone downhill completely inrecent years with shitty hosts
like Jimmy Kimmel.
And who's that other piece ofshit?
(01:55):
James Corden, oh my.
God, I don't know how that dudegot a show, but anyway, the
landscape was different.
Then you had Johnny Carson andeveryone's vying for that title
of being the number one, likethe king of the late show.
And Jack Delroy is a man whowill stop at nothing to reach
(02:19):
number one.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And it's so interesting to see how he does
it, because it's veryconflicting with his personality
.
Yeah, he's actually a very niceand he's a caring guy, but his
obsession of getting to thatpoint really contradicts with
his personality and hischaracter the.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
The thing that this did really well this movie was
you cared about jack delroy,that he's gone through all these
hardships and he doesn't comeacross as like a one-dimensional
late show host that's, I'm allabout the ratings.
He doesn't come across as likethis egomaniac over the top
(03:00):
caricature, like you feel thatthere is some layers to him and
emotional depth where, yeah,there's that inner conflict of.
I know this is the wrong thingto do, but if this doesn't work
out, the show's gone, mycareer's gone and I don't know.
(03:21):
I feel like when you're someonewho, like, reaches that point
of the top and then to hit rockbottom, it's much worse, whereas
if you never reach the top, youdon't know what you're missing
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's the fear of loss that you don't experience.
Yeah, when you reach the top.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And like the movie does such a good job in the
first five minutes ofestablishing this guy, his
motivations, his backstory andlike the sacrifices he's already
made, and there's like littlereferences to a hidden club
within society that only theelite join.
(04:02):
Only the elite join.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Still the question what is that gentlemen's only
club that's mentioned in thebeginning but then never
actually gets paid off, Likeit's mentioned at the end, and
it's hoodies and all that kindof stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Without spoiling the ending.
I think that it did get paidoff.
Maybe not in the way that youexpected, but it reminded me so
much of Eyes Wide Shut.
Actually, eyes Wide Shut is agreat comparison for this.
You haven't seen Eyes Wide Shut.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I've got a list of 50 movies still to watch.
Eyes.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Wide Shut.
Essentially is like a guyjoining the club the Illuminati
whatever you want to call it,the secret society but in doing
so realises that sacrifices haveto be made.
Once you join that club,there's no escaping it and
(05:00):
there's no talking about theclub.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Almost like Fight Club.
The first rule of Fight Clubyou don't talk about Fight.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Club.
Yeah, joining a secret club,realising it's not all it's
cracked up to be and that it hasall these consequences for
joining said club.
I just love that the 70saesthetic for this movie Like
they.
Beautifully done Productiondesign, production design, but
the way they filmed it 70saesthetic for this movie.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Like they beautifully done, like production design,
production design, but the theway they filmed.
I actually wonder what, howthey filmed it, like what
cameras they use, because theyuse the square format like they
used I feel like they would havejust post production edited.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, it would have been something they're not gonna
bring back the old 70s camerasto film it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Hey look, the creativity of directors takes
them to do some weird stuffunless it's tarantino.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I don't see that being the case I don't know some
directors say I don't know whoor what the way.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
But I know that a lot of directors actually said no,
I I want to be true to the timesI'm going to film with that
film.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't see it with this.
I feel like it was just a caseof them just overlay filters,
whatever the fuck you got to doto get it done, because it seems
like a relatively low budgetmovie, it seems.
Yeah.
In comparison to the stuff thatwe've watched, and I don't
think they had room in theirbudget to be like no, we need to
(06:30):
get the exact freaking camerasthat 1977 used the whole thing
was filmed in one location, yeah, one location.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You see the whole place.
You turn around.
There's the audience turn.
This way is the stage you got.
You walk past the stage to thebackstage and that's it.
You don't even go to thewardrobe, you don't even go to
the dressing rooms.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
There's no locations anywhere else it's all in that
one relatively tiny studio it'sa one set movie, like reservoir
dogs.
That's a one set movie no, itisn't yeah the warehouse.
like 80 of the movie takes placein that warehouse anyway.
(07:16):
It's like movies that takeplace in one spot, in one
setting.
This could work as a play for,for example, because of that,
and that would be exciting tosee this converted into a play.
Who knows, maybe it was a playand it was adapted, I don't know
Reminded me of the old 70ssitcoms, tv shows Like.
(07:38):
It has that cheesy kind ofaesthetic.
Even the jokes that they makeare very timely to the period
that it's set in and still funny, still hilarious yeah, but it's
funny.
It gives this movie this dark,satirical kind of edge, where
sometimes you're laughing andthen you're this is really
(08:02):
disturbing and creepy, and thenit rides that fine line and it
made me miss the 70s in a way,even though I didn't live
through it.
But like just that's it.
I just feel like there'ssomething about those late shows
from the 70s and like SaturdayNight Live and like when you
(08:24):
watch them, them back, it justseems like an innocent kind of
like happy-go-lucky time.
And to put an exorcism and allthis satanic stuff in that just
provides this great contrast.
Where it just it, it comesalive, like when we saw the
(08:46):
trailer for this well, likeexorcism meets johnny carson or
late show, like it's cool andthere's elements of like
documentary and found footagegenre, but without the shaky
camera shit like fromcloverfield.
There's so many differentelements from different movies
(09:09):
all meshed into one and I lovedit yeah no, I loved it too.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
The great thing is it's simple.
It's just very simplefilmmaking.
It is not complicated.
It's a simple hour and a half,not all.
Yeah, simple hour and a half.
It has no unnecessary bits init.
It's nice to the point.
It's a nice build-up, no falseclimaxes or anything.
(09:38):
It was just straight to thepoint, it was simple, it was
entertaining and you get whatyou expect yeah you expect the
unexpected I mean yeah, yeah,still some question marks there,
but without any spoilers.
Still some question marks.
It was just simple and classicand because it was reenactment
(10:02):
of the 70s, it could become likea timeless piece because, there
was no modern bits to it, therewas no reenactments of the 70s
that you can tell, hey, they canonly be done in the 21st
century.
So you feel like it could havebeen filmed in the 70s.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You feel that this doesn't have that stupid kind of
viewpoint of this is the modernview of the 70s Exactly.
You felt like this was theauthentic view of the 70s.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Where they're not trying to present.
Let's ignore the horriblethings about the 70s.
Exactly Interesting, I likethat.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Exactly.
Yeah, that would ruin the wholeimmersion, but that's
unfortunate it happens a lotwith movies that are meant to be
like in the 70s.
Yeah, cool, but all theseeffects and the special effects
here, they're all 21st centurystyle but then placed in the
wrong era and it's weird did youlike.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Like some of the effects did come off cheesy, but
it also worked.
I love the vocal delivery ofwhat's that actor's name?
david, you said it before davidmushel the dude playing the the
lead, jack elroy.
His vocal delivery is so spoton.
You just you could tell thatthis dude would have studied
(11:28):
heaps of david dash.
Malchian, this malchian davo,this malchian davo.
Fucking killed it, mate.
He killed it in this movie.
You could tell he studied lotsof late night show hosts and
just his demeanor and everything.
And even when he's backstage orwhen the cameras are off, he
(11:50):
still retains it.
So you never get a.
There's almost this weird sensewhere you don't fully get to
see him without the mask.
If that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, no, I love exactly what you're saying.
I would compare him withRobertbert de niro in the joker
and not to say they're similar.
They're very different where Ilove.
Okay.
So robert de niro's character,it was a stereotype.
It was literally a character,an archetype created in the mind
(12:24):
of the Joker, right?
What's the official name?
Joker Morgan Phoenix'scharacter, arthur yes, it was.
Robert De Niro's host was anarchetype created in the mind of
Arthur.
He was meant to serve that kindof purpose of being an absolute
(12:45):
dick, and so it was a stock act.
It was not much depth to it andyou saw a very clear change
behind the scenes very nice, butstill a bit of a entitlement.
And then when he's on the show,all his attention is on you,
but just to make a fool out ofyou, and where, as the host,
that David, david of Jack Elroy,it was an actual person.
(13:14):
It wasn't just an archetype, itwas an actual person.
He has ups and downs.
You saw his moments.
He had depth.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He should because he's the protector, see moments
where he actually looksconcerned for people yeah, and
you almost think to yourself,like is he going to reach a
point where he's going to say weneed to stop what we're doing
because this is going too far,our show is going too far, and
the whole time you're rootingfor him to reach that point, and
(13:46):
it is a lot of.
Will that happen?
Or will he just be consumed bywanting the fame and to be the
best that he'll lose sight ofhis humanity?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
that's the fun bit, because you wanted both both are
exciting both are exciting, butyou want to both simultaneously
.
You wanted to get to the pointof okay, you should actually
call it, mate, like you shouldcall.
This is messed up.
This is not going to go.
Well, you should call it.
But then the other.
I want to see what happens.
I want to see this devil.
Is it actually the devil voice?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
you're almost like us , as the audience are in the
same position of I do want tocall it off, but that is really
freaking cool.
Yeah, I do want to see that,and you hear the audience.
Just, we want to see it too.
So, yeah, you're almost dealingwith the inner conflict in the
(14:41):
same way he is.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
But at least I never felt the excitement for the
viewer rating.
I wanted him to succeed as aperson, but I never actually got
.
I wanted to succeed and getmore viewers and be on top of
that.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I think the point is that you don't want to say that
because that's not thatimportant in the grand scheme of
things.
Like in the first five minutesit's established he lost his
wife.
Yeah, so like you're thinkingto yourself that there's got to
be something more I don't know,like from our point of view,
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because we're not famous peopleor anything like that.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Don't forget to like, share and subscribe.
Share, yeah, share.
Make us famous.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Maybe we'll get a late show host where we can
perform an exorcism on someone.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I will perform an exorcism on Michael once we get
one million views.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah.
No idea how, but I'll do myresearch, we'll live stream an
exorcism, and then you can justroll your eyes at the back of
your head, like the Undertaker.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Who I met in real life.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Just want to plug that at a random point even
though it makes no sense.
But interesting point that doesbring up is the striving for
fame, like the idea of sellingyour soul for fame.
I love the themes of strivingfor fame and like how much are
you willing to sacrifice?
(16:15):
I love that in a movie that'sset in the 70s.
It's such a prominent theme,but it's even more prominent now
.
Everywhere you look socialmedia I constantly see in my
YouTube news feed stories ofit's like a guilty pleasure of
mine of watching like socialmedia influences that are
(16:36):
absolute pieces of shit andseeing them rise and then fall
hard.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
He's watching this podcast guys.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, and then get and someone's going to be like
that's going to be you one day,but you have to get famous to
have the rock bottom.
He's hit rock bottom and yeah,I can just enjoy the obscurity
of knowing that I'm never goingto be famous.
Nor would I want to be famousreally.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Don't forget to share .
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, like share and subscribe, let's get 5,000
subscribers?
No, but I think that thosethemes in modern society is a
very realistic theme and a bigissue with the current
generation modern society.
And so when you watch this, yousay to yourself that's
(17:25):
interesting, because it's thesame with nowadays like OnlyFans
or social media, when peopledecide they're going to film
something and don't think aboutthe consequences of their
actions and they just film it orlive stream it or tweet
whatever, and then they realizebefore it's too late that every
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action has a consequence andbefore they know it, they're
blackboard front or fired fromtheir career or something like
that, cancelled, whatever.
And yeah, like, even today Isaw this thing of a kid, a
19-year-old kid, that was as aprank, just going up to people
and punching them and then theywent to arrest him.
(18:09):
Yeah, it was in America.
They went to arrest him andhe's like it was just a prank,
bro, it was just a prank.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And they're like no, that's assault.
Yeah, but I did, it was just aprank bro.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
It was just a prank.
And they're like no, that'sassault.
That's assault, yeah, but I didit for TikTok.
And they're like it's stillassault.
It's still assault, dude.
And then the cops are like howmany likes did you get?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
How many comments, how many eyewitnesses are there?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And that's the dumb part as well like you filmed
yourself committing a crime.
Because you film yourself, it'snot hearsay or anything it's,
yeah, it's just the evidence isright there.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You consent to filming it if you do it yourself
, but anyway I digress point issome people are stupid enough to
post really dumb shit for views, for attention, attention, and
lose sight of, like, how that'sgoing to affect their reputation
or going forward, their life.
What's the bigger picture?
(19:06):
Yes, you're posting somethingwhere, like you're pranking
someone, for example, but likeyou're going to gain notoriety
but for being a piece of shit,for being a horrible person, and
there's moments in this moviewhere you could see this
character kind of having thisinner conflict of this.
(19:28):
Probably isn't a good idea todo, but I do really want to see
how this pans out.
But I do really want to see howthis pans out 50 years from
where this is set.
It's still such a prominenttheme, more relevant now than
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ever, because anyone can getfamous for doing anything.
But yeah, obviously, here yousee the most extreme example of
it.
You see the paranormal stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, in the form of like paranormal stuff, but like
people's lives being at stakeand yeah, and yeah, basically
it's going, yeah, doing stupidshit for views basically yeah,
it's like you're willing to riskeverybody's, even if you don't
believe in it.
You risk everybody's mentalhealth because people are
walking away, people are jumpingship.
They're talking about jumpingship.
(20:23):
Everybody's sweating,everybody's stressing, people
are believing in whatever'sgonna happen.
So you're like, put yourfucking smile on, we're gonna do
this.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And then, yeah, people do end up leaving, and
then people end up dying and youalso say, like this voice, this
producer kind of voice, justbeing like man, who the fuck
cares?
Let's, I know, we just want thefucking ratings.
Like that guy was over the top,kind of stereotype that was
over the top stereotype.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
But also actually, yeah, I don't know, it's
actually entertaining becausehe's like he wasn't acting as a
stereotype.
It's like, nah, it's justcompletely blasé to anything
that happens.
It's like, oh yeah, allparanormal shit happens.
Guys, there's amazingperformance.
All right, let's go so afterthe show, this happens and dude
literally just the fucking satanon your show.
(21:12):
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
that that guy is just totally disenfranchised he's
totally sold his soul to thedevil already pretty much, yeah,
and so nothing phases himbecause he's a more honest
version of everyone else,because he's honest with himself
of I.
I know I'm a piece of shit so Ijust had a realization.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
What?
Firstly?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
but I swear a lot.
Yeah, but no, I can't night.
You have to beep out every time.
I swear yes, but not just that.
I think the movie implies thatjack has already sold his soul
to get to the top.
He already sold his soul andthe price was his wife.
(22:02):
Do you notice how they said hiswife was never a smoker but yet
got lung cancer?
And they really emphasised thatpoint, as if to say it's a bit
he paid a price for getting tothe top.
Yeah, it was like something wasafoot there.
Something suspicious happenedwhere she suddenly got cancer,
even though she was like healthyas, and.
(22:24):
The movie is heavily implyingthat Jack has already sold his
soul to some degree and now it'sjust a matter of does he want
to keep going or is he going toleave that world knowing that
his wife's gone?
So there's nothing else reallyas important as her.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I love the fact that they didn't say that in the
movie and it makes you thinkabout it, because usually with
this paranormal kind ofsituation where you sell your
soul to your soul to the devil,it's so on the nose because you
have a conversation I sold mysoul to the devil, or something
like that, or you want to dothis but you're going to pay for
(23:06):
it and it's just it's justimplied in that one sentence of
and then his wife, not being asmoker, got terminal lung cancer
, dying of lung cancer,something like that.
But it's like cool.
It's like that plants a seedfor the end to pay off.
He sold his soul to the devil along time ago and the price he
(23:31):
paid for it was the death of hiswife.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, that's what I got from that.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, but it's like a puzzle you have to piece
together by yourself as anaudience member, because it's
not going to fit to you, whichis awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
There was lots of little eggs Easter eggs, I guess
hints at that.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That she died for.
She was a sacrifice forsomething else in a way.
Yeah, without them justoutright showing her pretty much
getting sacrificed.
Yeah, it wasn't like Devil'sAdvocate, where they're pretty
much saying I am the devil andyou are my son, and then
(24:10):
actually this does remind me ofthe Devil's Advocate in a way.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Another good movie you should watch.
I've never actually watched it.
It's Jack Nicholson, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Al.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Pacino and Keanu Reeves Ah, Al Pacino.
Similar in that you've got acharacter who is being tested
and you're going on theirjourney of seeing, like, how
much can they take before theybecome morally corrupted?
Are they going to save theirsoul in a way by doing the
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what's good, or they're going toresort to the, the easier path,
for, like, fame, money, glory,all this other crap?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
okay, what is something else that stood out in
a movie for you?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
For me what stood out ?
I think the performance, Ithink the main character, the
main actor, David the shloplop,the shippity bop, David, David,
I think David getting to seethis actor that I've only seen
in small bit parts really spreadhis wings.
I'm really thinking about it.
(25:19):
I think his performance justreally hooks you in because you
do feel for him.
There's moments where you'reyou can tell he's hurting and it
was tough for him and that youcan see that the audience, like
he, has to be a likable guy forthe audience to love him and you
(25:40):
get that as soon as you see himyou understand.
Oh, I can see why this guy is alate show host and why he's
loved by people and watched bymillions.
He has a very charismaticpersonality that hooks you in.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, but it's also his face shape and his eyes.
He has very kind eyes and avery soft, mellow face shape.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Unless you remember him from like movies like the
Dark Knight, where he plays aschizophrenic psychopath.
I mean, that image is still inmy mind.
So I'm just like, yeah,kindness, I just keep thinking
of him in the Dark Knight, Justlike he won't let me Just
screaming yeah, I don't remember, I don't even remember I've
(26:33):
seen the Dark Knight a few.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, I don't remember.
I don't even remember.
I've seen the Dark Knight a fewtimes, I just don't remember
him.
I know his face, I've seen himin things.
I just don't know where.
I know now where, but I justdon't remember him from where.
I just know.
I know this guy.
Yeah, and they go.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It's probably because he's such a different character
here.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
He's a different character, he's so versatile.
It's crazy, but yeah he hasvery eccentric eyes and with
this he really channels thekindness from his eyes and I
think that really helps, makinghim likable like that.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And I think that, because he's so likable, when
you see those moments ofrealization where you get to see
that he does really want to benumber one the ratings and stuff
like that you're almost likeheartbroken in a way of oh, I
really liked this guy.
I was hoping he hadn't fullygone that way, that there was
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still hope for his soul, that hewasn't just totally corrupted
by wanting to be number one.
There was a hope that he atsome point would realize what's
more important and just walkaway, kind of thing, even though
obviously you want to see theexcitement of the demon just
unleashing, causing shit like Isaid, you want them both at the
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same time.
You want the chaos, but you alsolike care so much about this
character that you don't want tosee the chaos because you know
what that means for this person.
So that is a testament toDavid's acting.
Yeah, yeah, awesome.
I think that's what stood outto me the 70s aesthetic, the
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blending of all these differentgenres, the cheesiness of this
being a 70s late show,contrasting with when things
start to go crazy.
I also really love the I forgothis name.
I love this character.
They bring on the show who'sjust.
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His sole purpose is just tryingto debunk every paranormal thing
that happens.
And it gets to a point wherehe's so set in his ways of, oh,
that could have been thatspecial effects and stuff like
that.
And people like nah, dude, likethat guy's head is gone, like
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oh, you know what it reminds meof.
It reminds me of ben stiller intropic thunder.
When the director blows up andben stiller's characters ah,
this is all a ruse, it's notreal, it's all special effects.
And then he grabs the dude'shead and he's like see, it's
just, it's all fake.
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And he's like licking the bloodand he's like yeah, it's just
blood-flavoured corn syrup orwhatever, like it's all fake.
And this little bit in his mindof shit.
Maybe this is real.
Maybe I am holding a realsevered head right now and that
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would be awkward, but this is ahorror movie, a thriller, so
it's not played for laughs, it'sjust played as this is deeply
disturbing, very disturbing thething that stood out to me is
that every character is sodistinct.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Every character has a purpose, and it's clear what
their purpose is.
You have the little girl who'sjust not 100 there.
She's possessed by a demon, ora devil, or like inner demons,
whatever it is, uh, but it'ssuper clear.
You have her of protectivecarer that plays the social
justice character that it's likeoh my god, bitch, shut up.
(30:21):
We want to see it, everybodywants to see it but she's also
like, also likable.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
she's also a liar, because you, when you look at it
right yeah, as we look at it,analysing this right the sole
reason that this woman brings onthis girl, who is possessed by
the devil, is to promote herbook Conversations With the
Devil.
So there's an argument madethat she's just there for the
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fame and glory and success, butshe's pretending she's not,
because why would she accept andagree to bring this girl on
there?
She's just as bad as the restof them, except she pretends
that she isn't.
And I think that's why this isinteresting, because on paper
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you think you know thecharacters and then the more you
think about it and talk aboutit, there's actually a lot more
to it.
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
No one's really there for theright reasons.
Everyone wants their 15 minutesof fame.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
She's there to promote her book.
But is she there only topromote her book or is she there
because she actually has areason, like I want to?
I want to show this to theworld, that this is real.
I want to educate the people athome to see that this is a real
thing.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I'd say if that, if she did say that type of stuff,
or if she was presented that way, I would still see it as
bullshit.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
That's a good.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
That's a good that's a good chance, Because if you
really know what this girl iscapable of when she's possessed
an exorcism, you should betotally against this idea from
the start and say, no, I'm notbringing a girl to do an
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exorcism on live TV.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I'd say two things about that.
One, she got pressured into itand two, maybe it's never been,
maybe it's never has gone thatfar.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
She implies that they don't know how far it'll go,
almost like she knows thatthings get really messed up and
it's everyone else that doesn'tknow, because they've never seen
it.
So they're probably thinking,oh, she'll just yell or scream
or some stuff, and that's it.
They don't expect her toabsolutely go crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, anyway, sorry.
So the point I was trying tomake is that every character has
their very clear purpose, right.
Even for her, it's cool.
Her purpose is to protect thegirl and to offer some kind of
resistance, to get the audienceon board with the host.
We really want to see it.
I know you really got it Now.
We really do want to and we'regoing to push for it.
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That's her purpose, right.
And then so you have the host,obviously.
Then you have the opposition.
You had carl michael, yeah,yeah, carl michael.
He is his opposition, is he's?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
he doesn't believe anything if you want a show
where there was like, like ohyeah, I'd be like that stuff,
you'd probably be like nah, thisis all bullshit look, I'd
believe that it's all bullshit,but I wouldn't be like as vocal
about it.
I think he was respectful to apoint and then it was getting
ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, he wasn't respectful.
He shut up when he got told toshut up, but he wasn't
respectful.
But that's the whole point ofthis character.
He's a dick, full stop, andI'll bleep that out.
Happily, he's a dick.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
He's putting money on the line and saying yeah but he
doesn't even have the money, orso.
I don't know, because he's.
He's a showman, yeah, but herefuses to give the money
anyways.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
It's like it doesn't matter how good of it's.
Literally, when he's faced withdeath himself he's about to die
.
It's the only moment where he'sokay I, he's about to die.
It's the only moment where he'sokay I have my money.
He never was gonna give themoney, no matter how good the
evidence is, but point.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Actually, I thought another thing that was gonna
happen.
Devil reveals itself and, likesome of the people, like amen,
because if to say they've allalready, they already know the
devil, because they're allentertainers, performers, and
it's like a knock, a dig atHollywood, saying like all of
them have already sold theirsouls to some degree.
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It's just a matter of who's donethe most to sell their soul.
This is the type of film thatyou watch and then you
immediately go to YouTube andyou go.
I want to watch a breakdown ofthis.
I want to understand everylittle nugget, every little bit
of symbolism, metaphors.
I want to see it all because Iloved what they were doing and I
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know I've missed stuff.
I want to know what I missedand I love that.
I want to know what I missedand I love that about.
Similar to when we watchedCivil War, I felt a similar
thing where I'm like I wouldlove to just watch a whole bunch
of breakdowns on this because Ican tell that this is big
enough that there is room totalk about it for like hours,
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analysing all these littlehidden meanings and secrets.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
It's cool.
It has so many meanings andsymbolisms and everywhere here
and there in this movie and I'mreally keen to see breakdowns of
other people's.
Oh, I missed all of that,especially because it's an
american culture and we're notin america.
What the, the late show stuff?
Yeah, that type of late shot,it was very it's very american.
Yeah, yeah, that's a good pointand it's not something.
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First of all, we're not fromthe 70s, even though I look like
it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But you look like a 70s porn star, so you could
totally.
I'm hung like a 70 anyway.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
So, michael, yes, for our audience member.
How would you rate this movie?
From a one to five Goodquestion.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Look, I'm going to give it.
I'd say like a four and a half.
It was really well done.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I loved the pacing.
I love that it doesn't fuckaround, it gets straight into it
and it doesn't drag anythingout.
It doesn't go for three fuckinghours.
I would watch it again withsomeone who hasn't seen it and
just look at them and like howthey react to everything.
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And yeah, I like that.
I like that.
When we were watching it, eventhough I had seen the trailer, I
had no idea where it was goingto go or what it was going for.
But by the end it made senseNot 100%, but as we talk about
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it more, we're understanding itand we're like I can definitely
see what they're going for.
That's awesome.
It was unique.
I love to reward unique filmsthat aren't these bloated, big
budget, slow-mo shit where it'sjust crap thrown at the screen.
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And if we were in a differentera, maybe this wouldn't be so
high, but in the current era andthe way films are these days, I
tend to rate these type ofmovies higher because I'm like
the standards are lower thanthat makes it sound like I'm
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shitting on the movie.
I actually really liked themovie.
I'm just trying to say thisblew me away because it's so
different to everything else outthere.
No, definitely I want to rewardcreativity and the fact that
it's probably not on a very bigbudget like these are the type
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of this could have been an A24movie potentially.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Could have been, yeah .
Speaker 2 (38:22):
What is your?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
final rating.
It's funny.
This is the first time you'regoing to give a higher rating
than I.
I would say it's three and ahalf stars I figured a four, but
three and a half okay I wastempted to go a bit high when I
heard your rating, but no, no,I'm gonna stay true to my own
rating, okay three and a half.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I don't know why it's a three and a half.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
It's simple, it's classic.
I think it can be a timelesshorror, like my gut tells me.
I would rate this a three and ahalf, but I'm not quite sure
why it's, you feel it's lackingsomething.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
So what would it be?
Was it the climax?
Just didn't do it, for youdidn't deliver in that regard.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
First of all, I'm not a big fan of horror.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I'm not either, and it didn't have jump scares,
which I love the fact it didn'thave jump scares.
It's an actual thriller horror,not just a jump scare horror.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, I feel like thrillers are a lot more.
They have to be more creative.
Yeah, because it's about tension, it's not about yeah tension
and this was a slow burn yeah, aquick far, a fast slow burn,
which is awesome, not a slowburn of three and a half hours,
like 90 minutes, is a slow burn,a quick, fast burn nowadays,
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but back in the day, like moviesused to like, rarely be two
hours Rarely.
And then I don't know whathappened but all of a sudden
even fricking Captain America orSuperman needs to be three
hours long.
Justice League four and a halfhours.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, yes, okay, I'm benching between three and a
half to four stars.
What did you want more of?
I'm not sure it's.
It was good, it was captivating, but it lacked something.
It lacked the oomph to it.
I felt not shocking enough, not, yeah, it's not shocking enough
(40:22):
.
I thought they could have gonea little bit further.
I'm just confused by the veryend you know what?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I'm getting the impression that it was built up
for so long and it was so welldone if it's pacing that when
the ending was coming, you wereexpecting something really big
and you were let down by alittle bit, little bit
anticlimactic.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
That's what I feel happened.
Yeah, a little bitanticlimactic.
It was a very quick, swiftending, yeah, and slightly
confusing.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Do you think your rating will change after you
start to analyze watch videostalking about the ending and
understand it better?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Maybe I'm open to have my mind changed and please
anybody in the comments, let meknow.
If I'm completely wrong, set mestraight, please do.
But yeah, there's not much Iwould change about the movie.
It's just the movie itself.
I would give it the three and ahalf.
Nothing wrong with the movie,it's just like you're saying,
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the building up to the climax isamazing, but then the climax
itself it's average.
It's memorable I'm not sure ifit's memorable for the right
reasons.
It did suit the aesthetic, itdid suit the aesthetics like the
aesthetics were amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
And it did suit the sex I don't know, it's a bit
weird.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I would just say I'm still so freaking confused what
the fuck is happening, and I'msure everything has a reason,
but I'm not compelled.
I don't feel compelled to wantto research them Like.
I do want to research and seewhat I missed, but I don't feel
the urge to discover it myself,whereas with Soulburn I did feel
that.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I want to find out myself.
Like the more we're talkingabout it, I'm like I want to
find out what the hell this allmeant.
I want answers, because Ididn't get the closure from that
ending Like I understand whatthey're going for, but not fully
.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
That's interesting.
That's an interesting take.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
And it also like with Saltburn once.
I did watch those videos tobetter understand it and like
forums, stuff like that, and youstart to piece together your
own interpretation and you'relike, oh, that makes a lot of
sense, this.
Actually I'm just an idiot.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
What a revelation of 2024 already.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I was like wow far out the answer's, like just
standing right in front of me,like when you play a video game
and you're stuck on a puzzle forthree days, and then you're
like, oh my God, I just had topress this button and the door
opens magically.
It's like I know the answer'sin front of me.
I just don't quite know.
Yeah, but yeah, I'm reallyhappy.
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I think anyone that watches itwon't be disappointed, I feel.
Yeah, I agree Might be confused, but not disappointed, quite
confused, yeah.
Anyway, so that is our reviewof Late Night with the Devil.
If you enjoyed this video,please like, share and subscribe
so that we can become latenight hosts one day and sell our
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souls to the devil.
You haven't yet.
No, not yet.
I've done lots of other thingsfor the devil, but I haven't
sold my soul yet.
I haven't quite made my.
OnlyFans account.
Yet that's the sign that I'vesold my soul.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
OnlyFans down here, my OnlyFans.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
If I should start an OnlyFans, then just comment
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Speaker 1 (43:49):
We want to see your feet.
Michael.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
They are nice feet Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I'll get one subscriber Quentin Tarantino.
I'll cut that one out for you.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
I don't care, it's not like Tarantino is going to
fucking watch this.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Let's make Quentin Tarantino watch this podcast.
Help us, help us.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Send it through.
Tag him in something on socialmedia so that he has to watch my
face, and then he'll find myreview of Once Upon a Time in
Hollywood from a couple of yearsago, where I just shitted on
the movie and then people wereshitting on me for shitting on
the movie, because they werelike you just don't get it, man.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
And then you shat on the people shitting on you on
shitting on the movie, and thenit all became like a shits about
you.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I just ended up shitting on everyone.
It seems to be what I do.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Alright, cool.
Welcome to Late Night with Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Pigeonary.
Welcome to Late Night withMichael Pigeonary as today's
episode of Movies Worth Seeing,while reviewing Late Night with
the Devil.
Hey, everyone, and welcome toanother episode of Movies Worth
Seeing.
I'm joined by Adi Asher.
(00:24):
You always say Adi, adi'mjoined by Adi Asher, you always
say Adi, adi, asher, adi Asher.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Even automatic subtitles doesn't even know how
to spell it anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It says A-I-S-H-I-E-R .
It's not important.
You're the Gus to my JackDelroy.
Yeah, yeah, today we'rereviewing Late Night with the
Devil and, yeah, we justfinished watching it.
Wow, wow, that was anexperience that kind of reminded
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me of like when we watched SaltBurn, or when I finished
watching it for the first timeand I was just like, wow, like
that was an experience, and Ihave questions.
This is a bit morestraightforward than Salt Burn,
but I still have a lot ofquestions, a lot of questions
what the ending of that means.
(01:14):
And we're not going to spoil it, but let's start off with the
actual story, the plot of LateNight with the Devil.
Essentially, this movie is setin the 70s, the late 70s, and
we're following Jack Delroy,who's a competitor to the late
(01:34):
great Johnny Carson, who was abig late night host in America,
set the standard for the latenight show host, set the
standard for the late night showhost and unfortunately, it's
gone downhill completely inrecent years with shitty hosts
like Jimmy Kimmel.
And who's that other piece ofshit?
(01:55):
James Corden, oh my.
God, I don't know how that dudegot a show, but anyway, the
landscape was different.
Then you had Johnny Carson andeveryone's vying for that title
of being the number one, likethe king of the late show.
And Jack Delroy is a man whowill stop at nothing to reach
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number one.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And it's so interesting to see how he does
it, because it's veryconflicting with his personality
.
Yeah, he's actually a very niceand he's a caring guy, but his
obsession of getting to thatpoint really contradicts with
his personality and hischaracter the.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
The thing that this did really well this movie was
you cared about jack delroy,that he's gone through all these
hardships and he doesn't comeacross as like a one-dimensional
late show host that's, I'm allabout the ratings.
He doesn't come across as likethis egomaniac over the top
(03:00):
caricature, like you feel thatthere is some layers to him and
emotional depth where, yeah,there's that inner conflict of.
I know this is the wrong thingto do, but if this doesn't work
out, the show's gone, mycareer's gone and I don't know.
(03:21):
I feel like when you're someonewho, like, reaches that point
of the top and then to hit rockbottom, it's much worse, whereas
if you never reach the top, youdon't know what you're missing
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's the fear of loss that you don't experience.
Yeah, when you reach the top.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And like the movie does such a good job in the
first five minutes ofestablishing this guy, his
motivations, his backstory andlike the sacrifices he's already
made, and there's like littlereferences to a hidden club
within society that only theelite join.
(04:02):
Only the elite join.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Still the question what is that gentlemen's only
club that's mentioned in thebeginning but then never
actually gets paid off, Likeit's mentioned at the end, and
it's hoodies and all that kindof stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Without spoiling the ending.
I think that it did get paidoff.
Maybe not in the way that youexpected, but it reminded me so
much of Eyes Wide Shut.
Actually, eyes Wide Shut is agreat comparison for this.
You haven't seen Eyes Wide Shut.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I've got a list of 50 movies still to watch.
Eyes.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Wide Shut.
Essentially is like a guyjoining the club the Illuminati
whatever you want to call it,the secret society but in doing
so realises that sacrifices haveto be made.
Once you join that club,there's no escaping it and
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there's no talking about theclub.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Almost like Fight Club.
The first rule of Fight Clubyou don't talk about Fight.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Club.
Yeah, joining a secret club,realising it's not all it's
cracked up to be and that it hasall these consequences for
joining said club.
I just love that the 70saesthetic for this movie Like
they.
Beautifully done Productiondesign, production design, but
the way they filmed it 70saesthetic for this movie.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Like they beautifully done, like production design,
production design, but the theway they filmed.
I actually wonder what, howthey filmed it, like what
cameras they use, because theyuse the square format like they
used I feel like they would havejust post production edited.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, it would have been something they're not gonna
bring back the old 70s camerasto film it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Hey look, the creativity of directors takes
them to do some weird stuffunless it's tarantino.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I don't see that being the case I don't know some
directors say I don't know whoor what the way.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
But I know that a lot of directors actually said no,
I I want to be true to the timesI'm going to film with that
film.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't see it with this.
I feel like it was just a caseof them just overlay filters,
whatever the fuck you got to doto get it done, because it seems
like a relatively low budgetmovie, it seems.
Yeah.
In comparison to the stuff thatwe've watched, and I don't
think they had room in theirbudget to be like no, we need to
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get the exact freaking camerasthat 1977 used the whole thing
was filmed in one location, yeah, one location.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You see the whole place.
You turn around.
There's the audience turn.
This way is the stage you got.
You walk past the stage to thebackstage and that's it.
You don't even go to thewardrobe, you don't even go to
the dressing rooms.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
There's no locations anywhere else it's all in that
one relatively tiny studio it'sa one set movie, like reservoir
dogs.
That's a one set movie no, itisn't yeah the warehouse.
like 80 of the movie takes placein that warehouse anyway.
(07:16):
It's like movies that takeplace in one spot, in one
setting.
This could work as a play for,for example, because of that,
and that would be exciting tosee this converted into a play.
Who knows, maybe it was a playand it was adapted, I don't know
Reminded me of the old 70ssitcoms, tv shows Like.
(07:38):
It has that cheesy kind ofaesthetic.
Even the jokes that they makeare very timely to the period
that it's set in and still funny, still hilarious yeah, but it's
funny.
It gives this movie this dark,satirical kind of edge, where
sometimes you're laughing andthen you're this is really
(08:02):
disturbing and creepy, and thenit rides that fine line and it
made me miss the 70s in a way,even though I didn't live
through it.
But like just that's it.
I just feel like there'ssomething about those late shows
from the 70s and like SaturdayNight Live and like when you
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watch them, them back, it justseems like an innocent kind of
like happy-go-lucky time.
And to put an exorcism and allthis satanic stuff in that just
provides this great contrast.
Where it just it, it comesalive, like when we saw the
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trailer for this well, likeexorcism meets johnny carson or
late show, like it's cool andthere's elements of like
documentary and found footagegenre, but without the shaky
camera shit like fromcloverfield.
There's so many differentelements from different movies
(09:09):
all meshed into one and I lovedit yeah no, I loved it too.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
The great thing is it's simple.
It's just very simplefilmmaking.
It is not complicated.
It's a simple hour and a half,not all.
Yeah, simple hour and a half.
It has no unnecessary bits init.
It's nice to the point.
It's a nice build-up, no falseclimaxes or anything.
(09:38):
It was just straight to thepoint, it was simple, it was
entertaining and you get whatyou expect yeah you expect the
unexpected I mean yeah, yeah,still some question marks there,
but without any spoilers.
Still some question marks.
It was just simple and classicand because it was reenactment
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of the 70s, it could become likea timeless piece because, there
was no modern bits to it, therewas no reenactments of the 70s
that you can tell, hey, they canonly be done in the 21st
century.
So you feel like it could havebeen filmed in the 70s.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You feel that this doesn't have that stupid kind of
viewpoint of this is the modernview of the 70s Exactly.
You felt like this was theauthentic view of the 70s.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Where they're not trying to present.
Let's ignore the horriblethings about the 70s.
Exactly Interesting, I likethat.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Exactly.
Yeah, that would ruin the wholeimmersion, but that's
unfortunate it happens a lotwith movies that are meant to be
like in the 70s.
Yeah, cool, but all theseeffects and the special effects
here, they're all 21st centurystyle but then placed in the
wrong era and it's weird did youlike.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Like some of the effects did come off cheesy, but
it also worked.
I love the vocal delivery ofwhat's that actor's name?
david, you said it before davidmushel the dude playing the the
lead, jack elroy.
His vocal delivery is so spoton.
You just you could tell thatthis dude would have studied
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heaps of david dash.
Malchian, this malchian davo,this malchian davo.
Fucking killed it, mate.
He killed it in this movie.
You could tell he studied lotsof late night show hosts and
just his demeanor and everything.
And even when he's backstage orwhen the cameras are off, he
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still retains it.
So you never get a.
There's almost this weird sensewhere you don't fully get to
see him without the mask.
If that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, no, I love exactly what you're saying.
I would compare him withRobertbert de niro in the joker
and not to say they're similar.
They're very different where Ilove.
Okay.
So robert de niro's character,it was a stereotype.
It was literally a character,an archetype created in the mind
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of the Joker, right?
What's the official name?
Joker Morgan Phoenix'scharacter, arthur yes, it was.
Robert De Niro's host was anarchetype created in the mind of
Arthur.
He was meant to serve that kindof purpose of being an absolute
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dick, and so it was a stock act.
It was not much depth to it andyou saw a very clear change
behind the scenes very nice, butstill a bit of a entitlement.
And then when he's on the show,all his attention is on you,
but just to make a fool out ofyou, and where, as the host,
that David, david of Jack Elroy,it was an actual person.
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It wasn't just an archetype, itwas an actual person.
He has ups and downs.
You saw his moments.
He had depth.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He should because he's the protector, see moments
where he actually looksconcerned for people yeah, and
you almost think to yourself,like is he going to reach a
point where he's going to say weneed to stop what we're doing
because this is going too far,our show is going too far, and
the whole time you're rootingfor him to reach that point, and
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it is a lot of.
Will that happen?
Or will he just be consumed bywanting the fame and to be the
best that he'll lose sight ofhis humanity?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
that's the fun bit, because you wanted both both are
exciting both are exciting, butyou want to both simultaneously
.
You wanted to get to the pointof okay, you should actually
call it, mate, like you shouldcall.
This is messed up.
This is not going to go.
Well, you should call it.
But then the other.
I want to see what happens.
I want to see this devil.
Is it actually the devil voice?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
you're almost like us , as the audience are in the
same position of I do want tocall it off, but that is really
freaking cool.
Yeah, I do want to see that,and you hear the audience.
Just, we want to see it too.
So, yeah, you're almost dealingwith the inner conflict in the
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same way he is.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
But at least I never felt the excitement for the
viewer rating.
I wanted him to succeed as aperson, but I never actually got
.
I wanted to succeed and getmore viewers and be on top of
that.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I think the point is that you don't want to say that
because that's not thatimportant in the grand scheme of
things.
Like in the first five minutesit's established he lost his
wife.
Yeah, so like you're thinkingto yourself that there's got to
be something more I don't know,like from our point of view,
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because we're not famous peopleor anything like that.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Don't forget to like, share and subscribe.
Share, yeah, share.
Make us famous.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Maybe we'll get a late show host where we can
perform an exorcism on someone.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I will perform an exorcism on Michael once we get
one million views.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah.
No idea how, but I'll do myresearch, we'll live stream an
exorcism, and then you can justroll your eyes at the back of
your head, like the Undertaker.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Who I met in real life.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Just want to plug that at a random point even
though it makes no sense.
But interesting point that doesbring up is the striving for
fame, like the idea of sellingyour soul for fame.
I love the themes of strivingfor fame and like how much are
you willing to sacrifice?
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I love that in a movie that'sset in the 70s.
It's such a prominent theme,but it's even more prominent now
.
Everywhere you look socialmedia I constantly see in my
YouTube news feed stories ofit's like a guilty pleasure of
mine of watching like socialmedia influences that are
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absolute pieces of shit andseeing them rise and then fall
hard.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
He's watching this podcast guys.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, and then get and someone's going to be like
that's going to be you one day,but you have to get famous to
have the rock bottom.
He's hit rock bottom and yeah,I can just enjoy the obscurity
of knowing that I'm never goingto be famous.
Nor would I want to be famousreally.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Don't forget to share .
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, like share and subscribe, let's get 5,000
subscribers?
No, but I think that thosethemes in modern society is a
very realistic theme and a bigissue with the current
generation modern society.
And so when you watch this, yousay to yourself that's
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interesting, because it's thesame with nowadays like OnlyFans
or social media, when peopledecide they're going to film
something and don't think aboutthe consequences of their
actions and they just film it orlive stream it or tweet
whatever, and then they realizebefore it's too late that every
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action has a consequence andbefore they know it, they're
blackboard front or fired fromtheir career or something like
that, cancelled, whatever.
And yeah, like, even today Isaw this thing of a kid, a
19-year-old kid, that was as aprank, just going up to people
and punching them and then theywent to arrest him.
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Yeah, it was in America.
They went to arrest him andhe's like it was just a prank,
bro, it was just a prank.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And they're like no, that's assault.
Yeah, but I did, it was just aprank bro.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
It was just a prank.
And they're like no, that'sassault.
That's assault, yeah, but I didit for TikTok.
And they're like it's stillassault.
It's still assault, dude.
And then the cops are like howmany likes did you get?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
How many comments, how many eyewitnesses are there?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And that's the dumb part as well like you filmed
yourself committing a crime.
Because you film yourself, it'snot hearsay or anything it's,
yeah, it's just the evidence isright there.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You consent to filming it if you do it yourself
, but anyway I digress point issome people are stupid enough to
post really dumb shit for views, for attention, attention, and
lose sight of, like, how that'sgoing to affect their reputation
or going forward, their life.
What's the bigger picture?
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Yes, you're posting somethingwhere, like you're pranking
someone, for example, but likeyou're going to gain notoriety
but for being a piece of shit,for being a horrible person, and
there's moments in this moviewhere you could see this
character kind of having thisinner conflict of this.
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Probably isn't a good idea todo, but I do really want to see
how this pans out.
But I do really want to see howthis pans out 50 years from
where this is set.
It's still such a prominenttheme, more relevant now than
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ever, because anyone can getfamous for doing anything.
But yeah, obviously, here yousee the most extreme example of
it.
You see the paranormal stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, in the form of like paranormal stuff, but like
people's lives being at stakeand yeah, and yeah, basically
it's going, yeah, doing stupidshit for views basically yeah,
it's like you're willing to riskeverybody's, even if you don't
believe in it.
You risk everybody's mentalhealth because people are
walking away, people are jumpingship.
They're talking about jumpingship.
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Everybody's sweating,everybody's stressing, people
are believing in whatever'sgonna happen.
So you're like, put yourfucking smile on, we're gonna do
this.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And then, yeah, people do end up leaving, and
then people end up dying and youalso say, like this voice, this
producer kind of voice, justbeing like man, who the fuck
cares?
Let's, I know, we just want thefucking ratings.
Like that guy was over the top,kind of stereotype that was
over the top stereotype.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
But also actually, yeah, I don't know, it's
actually entertaining becausehe's like he wasn't acting as a
stereotype.
It's like, nah, it's justcompletely blasé to anything
that happens.
It's like, oh yeah, allparanormal shit happens.
Guys, there's amazingperformance.
All right, let's go so afterthe show, this happens and dude
literally just the fucking satanon your show.
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What's wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
that that guy is just totally disenfranchised he's
totally sold his soul to thedevil already pretty much, yeah,
and so nothing phases himbecause he's a more honest
version of everyone else,because he's honest with himself
of I.
I know I'm a piece of shit so Ijust had a realization.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
What?
Firstly?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
but I swear a lot.
Yeah, but no, I can't night.
You have to beep out every time.
I swear yes, but not just that.
I think the movie implies thatjack has already sold his soul
to get to the top.
He already sold his soul andthe price was his wife.
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Do you notice how they said hiswife was never a smoker but yet
got lung cancer?
And they really emphasised thatpoint, as if to say it's a bit
he paid a price for getting tothe top.
Yeah, it was like something wasafoot there.
Something suspicious happenedwhere she suddenly got cancer,
even though she was like healthyas, and.
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The movie is heavily implyingthat Jack has already sold his
soul to some degree and now it'sjust a matter of does he want
to keep going or is he going toleave that world knowing that
his wife's gone?
So there's nothing else reallyas important as her.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I love the fact that they didn't say that in the
movie and it makes you thinkabout it, because usually with
this paranormal kind ofsituation where you sell your
soul to your soul to the devil,it's so on the nose because you
have a conversation I sold mysoul to the devil, or something
like that, or you want to dothis but you're going to pay for
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it and it's just it's justimplied in that one sentence of
and then his wife, not being asmoker, got terminal lung cancer
, dying of lung cancer,something like that.
But it's like cool.
It's like that plants a seedfor the end to pay off.
He sold his soul to the devil along time ago and the price he
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paid for it was the death of hiswife.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, that's what I got from that.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, but it's like a puzzle you have to piece
together by yourself as anaudience member, because it's
not going to fit to you, whichis awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
There was lots of little eggs Easter eggs, I guess
hints at that.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That she died for.
She was a sacrifice forsomething else in a way.
Yeah, without them justoutright showing her pretty much
getting sacrificed.
Yeah, it wasn't like Devil'sAdvocate, where they're pretty
much saying I am the devil andyou are my son, and then
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actually this does remind me ofthe Devil's Advocate in a way.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Another good movie you should watch.
I've never actually watched it.
It's Jack Nicholson, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Al.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Pacino and Keanu Reeves Ah, Al Pacino.
Similar in that you've got acharacter who is being tested
and you're going on theirjourney of seeing, like, how
much can they take before theybecome morally corrupted?
Are they going to save theirsoul in a way by doing the
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what's good, or they're going toresort to the, the easier path,
for, like, fame, money, glory,all this other crap?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
okay, what is something else that stood out in
a movie for you?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
For me what stood out ?
I think the performance, Ithink the main character, the
main actor, David the shloplop,the shippity bop, David, David,
I think David getting to seethis actor that I've only seen
in small bit parts really spreadhis wings.
I'm really thinking about it.
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I think his performance justreally hooks you in because you
do feel for him.
There's moments where you'reyou can tell he's hurting and it
was tough for him and that youcan see that the audience, like
he, has to be a likable guy forthe audience to love him and you
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get that as soon as you see himyou understand.
Oh, I can see why this guy is alate show host and why he's
loved by people and watched bymillions.
He has a very charismaticpersonality that hooks you in.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, but it's also his face shape and his eyes.
He has very kind eyes and avery soft, mellow face shape.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Unless you remember him from like movies like the
Dark Knight, where he plays aschizophrenic psychopath.
I mean, that image is still inmy mind.
So I'm just like, yeah,kindness, I just keep thinking
of him in the Dark Knight, Justlike he won't let me Just
screaming yeah, I don't remember, I don't even remember I've
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seen the Dark Knight a few.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, I don't remember.
I don't even remember.
I've seen the Dark Knight a fewtimes, I just don't remember
him.
I know his face, I've seen himin things.
I just don't know where.
I know now where, but I justdon't remember him from where.
I just know.
I know this guy.
Yeah, and they go.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It's probably because he's such a different character
here.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
He's a different character, he's so versatile.
It's crazy, but yeah he hasvery eccentric eyes and with
this he really channels thekindness from his eyes and I
think that really helps, makinghim likable like that.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And I think that, because he's so likable, when
you see those moments ofrealization where you get to see
that he does really want to benumber one the ratings and stuff
like that you're almost likeheartbroken in a way of oh, I
really liked this guy.
I was hoping he hadn't fullygone that way, that there was
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still hope for his soul, that hewasn't just totally corrupted
by wanting to be number one.
There was a hope that he atsome point would realize what's
more important and just walkaway, kind of thing, even though
obviously you want to see theexcitement of the demon just
unleashing, causing shit like Isaid, you want them both at the
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same time.
You want the chaos, but you alsolike care so much about this
character that you don't want tosee the chaos because you know
what that means for this person.
So that is a testament toDavid's acting.
Yeah, yeah, awesome.
I think that's what stood outto me the 70s aesthetic, the
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blending of all these differentgenres, the cheesiness of this
being a 70s late show,contrasting with when things
start to go crazy.
I also really love the I forgothis name.
I love this character.
They bring on the show who'sjust.
(28:38):
His sole purpose is just tryingto debunk every paranormal thing
that happens.
And it gets to a point wherehe's so set in his ways of, oh,
that could have been thatspecial effects and stuff like
that.
And people like nah, dude, likethat guy's head is gone, like
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oh, you know what it reminds meof.
It reminds me of ben stiller intropic thunder.
When the director blows up andben stiller's characters ah,
this is all a ruse, it's notreal, it's all special effects.
And then he grabs the dude'shead and he's like see, it's
just, it's all fake.
(29:21):
And he's like licking the bloodand he's like yeah, it's just
blood-flavoured corn syrup orwhatever, like it's all fake.
And this little bit in his mindof shit.
Maybe this is real.
Maybe I am holding a realsevered head right now and that
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would be awkward, but this is ahorror movie, a thriller, so
it's not played for laughs, it'sjust played as this is deeply
disturbing, very disturbing thething that stood out to me is
that every character is sodistinct.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Every character has a purpose, and it's clear what
their purpose is.
You have the little girl who'sjust not 100 there.
She's possessed by a demon, ora devil, or like inner demons,
whatever it is, uh, but it'ssuper clear.
You have her of protectivecarer that plays the social
justice character that it's likeoh my god, bitch, shut up.
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We want to see it, everybodywants to see it but she's also
like, also likable.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
she's also a liar, because you, when you look at it
right yeah, as we look at it,analysing this right the sole
reason that this woman brings onthis girl, who is possessed by
the devil, is to promote herbook Conversations With the
Devil.
So there's an argument madethat she's just there for the
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fame and glory and success, butshe's pretending she's not,
because why would she accept andagree to bring this girl on
there?
She's just as bad as the restof them, except she pretends
that she isn't.
And I think that's why this isinteresting, because on paper
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you think you know thecharacters and then the more you
think about it and talk aboutit, there's actually a lot more
to it.
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
No one's really there for theright reasons.
Everyone wants their 15 minutesof fame.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
She's there to promote her book.
But is she there only topromote her book or is she there
because she actually has areason, like I want to?
I want to show this to theworld, that this is real.
I want to educate the people athome to see that this is a real
thing.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I'd say if that, if she did say that type of stuff,
or if she was presented that way, I would still see it as
bullshit.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
That's a good.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
That's a good that's a good chance, Because if you
really know what this girl iscapable of when she's possessed
an exorcism, you should betotally against this idea from
the start and say, no, I'm notbringing a girl to do an
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exorcism on live TV.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I'd say two things about that.
One, she got pressured into itand two, maybe it's never been,
maybe it's never has gone thatfar.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
She implies that they don't know how far it'll go,
almost like she knows thatthings get really messed up and
it's everyone else that doesn'tknow, because they've never seen
it.
So they're probably thinking,oh, she'll just yell or scream
or some stuff, and that's it.
They don't expect her toabsolutely go crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, anyway, sorry.
So the point I was trying tomake is that every character has
their very clear purpose, right.
Even for her, it's cool.
Her purpose is to protect thegirl and to offer some kind of
resistance, to get the audienceon board with the host.
We really want to see it.
I know you really got it Now.
We really do want to and we'regoing to push for it.
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That's her purpose, right.
And then so you have the host,obviously.
Then you have the opposition.
You had carl michael, yeah,yeah, carl michael.
He is his opposition, is he's?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
he doesn't believe anything if you want a show
where there was like, like ohyeah, I'd be like that stuff,
you'd probably be like nah, thisis all bullshit look, I'd
believe that it's all bullshit,but I wouldn't be like as vocal
about it.
I think he was respectful to apoint and then it was getting
ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, he wasn't respectful.
He shut up when he got told toshut up, but he wasn't
respectful.
But that's the whole point ofthis character.
He's a dick, full stop, andI'll bleep that out.
Happily, he's a dick.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
He's putting money on the line and saying yeah but he
doesn't even have the money, orso.
I don't know, because he's.
He's a showman, yeah, but herefuses to give the money
anyways.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
It's like it doesn't matter how good of it's.
Literally, when he's faced withdeath himself he's about to die
.
It's the only moment where he'sokay I, he's about to die.
It's the only moment where he'sokay I have my money.
He never was gonna give themoney, no matter how good the
evidence is, but point.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Actually, I thought another thing that was gonna
happen.
Devil reveals itself and, likesome of the people, like amen,
because if to say they've allalready, they already know the
devil, because they're allentertainers, performers, and
it's like a knock, a dig atHollywood, saying like all of
them have already sold theirsouls to some degree.
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It's just a matter of who's donethe most to sell their soul.
This is the type of film thatyou watch and then you
immediately go to YouTube andyou go.
I want to watch a breakdown ofthis.
I want to understand everylittle nugget, every little bit
of symbolism, metaphors.
I want to see it all because Iloved what they were doing and I
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know I've missed stuff.
I want to know what I missedand I love that.
I want to know what I missedand I love that about.
Similar to when we watchedCivil War, I felt a similar
thing where I'm like I wouldlove to just watch a whole bunch
of breakdowns on this because Ican tell that this is big
enough that there is room totalk about it for like hours,
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analysing all these littlehidden meanings and secrets.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
It's cool.
It has so many meanings andsymbolisms and everywhere here
and there in this movie and I'mreally keen to see breakdowns of
other people's.
Oh, I missed all of that,especially because it's an
american culture and we're notin america.
What the, the late show stuff?
Yeah, that type of late shot,it was very it's very american.
Yeah, yeah, that's a good pointand it's not something.
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First of all, we're not fromthe 70s, even though I look like
it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But you look like a 70s porn star, so you could
totally.
I'm hung like a 70 anyway.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
So, michael, yes, for our audience member.
How would you rate this movie?
From a one to five Goodquestion.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Look, I'm going to give it.
I'd say like a four and a half.
It was really well done.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I loved the pacing.
I love that it doesn't fuckaround, it gets straight into it
and it doesn't drag anythingout.
It doesn't go for three fuckinghours.
I would watch it again withsomeone who hasn't seen it and
just look at them and like howthey react to everything.
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And yeah, I like that.
I like that.
When we were watching it, eventhough I had seen the trailer, I
had no idea where it was goingto go or what it was going for.
But by the end it made senseNot 100%, but as we talk about
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it more, we're understanding itand we're like I can definitely
see what they're going for.
That's awesome.
It was unique.
I love to reward unique filmsthat aren't these bloated, big
budget, slow-mo shit where it'sjust crap thrown at the screen.
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And if we were in a differentera, maybe this wouldn't be so
high, but in the current era andthe way films are these days, I
tend to rate these type ofmovies higher because I'm like
the standards are lower thanthat makes it sound like I'm
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shitting on the movie.
I actually really liked themovie.
I'm just trying to say thisblew me away because it's so
different to everything else outthere.
No, definitely I want to rewardcreativity and the fact that
it's probably not on a very bigbudget like these are the type
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of this could have been an A24movie potentially.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Could have been, yeah .
Speaker 2 (38:22):
What is your?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
final rating.
It's funny.
This is the first time you'regoing to give a higher rating
than I.
I would say it's three and ahalf stars I figured a four, but
three and a half okay I wastempted to go a bit high when I
heard your rating, but no, no,I'm gonna stay true to my own
rating, okay three and a half.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I don't know why it's a three and a half.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
It's simple, it's classic.
I think it can be a timelesshorror, like my gut tells me.
I would rate this a three and ahalf, but I'm not quite sure
why it's, you feel it's lackingsomething.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
So what would it be?
Was it the climax?
Just didn't do it, for youdidn't deliver in that regard.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
First of all, I'm not a big fan of horror.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I'm not either, and it didn't have jump scares,
which I love the fact it didn'thave jump scares.
It's an actual thriller horror,not just a jump scare horror.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, I feel like thrillers are a lot more.
They have to be more creative.
Yeah, because it's about tension, it's not about yeah tension
and this was a slow burn yeah, aquick far, a fast slow burn,
which is awesome, not a slowburn of three and a half hours,
like 90 minutes, is a slow burn,a quick, fast burn nowadays,
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but back in the day, like moviesused to like, rarely be two
hours Rarely.
And then I don't know whathappened but all of a sudden
even fricking Captain America orSuperman needs to be three
hours long.
Justice League four and a halfhours.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, yes, okay, I'm benching between three and a
half to four stars.
What did you want more of?
I'm not sure it's.
It was good, it was captivating, but it lacked something.
It lacked the oomph to it.
I felt not shocking enough, not, yeah, it's not shocking enough
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.
I thought they could have gonea little bit further.
I'm just confused by the veryend you know what?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I'm getting the impression that it was built up
for so long and it was so welldone if it's pacing that when
the ending was coming, you wereexpecting something really big
and you were let down by alittle bit, little bit
anticlimactic.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
That's what I feel happened.
Yeah, a little bitanticlimactic.
It was a very quick, swiftending, yeah, and slightly
confusing.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Do you think your rating will change after you
start to analyze watch videostalking about the ending and
understand it better?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Maybe I'm open to have my mind changed and please
anybody in the comments, let meknow.
If I'm completely wrong, set mestraight, please do.
But yeah, there's not much Iwould change about the movie.
It's just the movie itself.
I would give it the three and ahalf.
Nothing wrong with the movie,it's just like you're saying,
(41:23):
the building up to the climax isamazing, but then the climax
itself it's average.
It's memorable I'm not sure ifit's memorable for the right
reasons.
It did suit the aesthetic, itdid suit the aesthetics like the
aesthetics were amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
And it did suit the sex I don't know, it's a bit
weird.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I would just say I'm still so freaking confused what
the fuck is happening, and I'msure everything has a reason,
but I'm not compelled.
I don't feel compelled to wantto research them Like.
I do want to research and seewhat I missed, but I don't feel
the urge to discover it myself,whereas with Soulburn I did feel
that.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I want to find out myself.
Like the more we're talkingabout it, I'm like I want to
find out what the hell this allmeant.
I want answers, because Ididn't get the closure from that
ending Like I understand whatthey're going for, but not fully
.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
That's interesting.
That's an interesting take.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
And it also like with Saltburn once.
I did watch those videos tobetter understand it and like
forums, stuff like that, and youstart to piece together your
own interpretation and you'relike, oh, that makes a lot of
sense, this.
Actually I'm just an idiot.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
What a revelation of 2024 already.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I was like wow far out the answer's, like just
standing right in front of me,like when you play a video game
and you're stuck on a puzzle forthree days, and then you're
like, oh my God, I just had topress this button and the door
opens magically.
It's like I know the answer'sin front of me.
I just don't quite know.
Yeah, but yeah, I'm reallyhappy.
(43:01):
I think anyone that watches itwon't be disappointed, I feel.
Yeah, I agree Might be confused, but not disappointed, quite
confused, yeah.
Anyway, so that is our reviewof Late Night with the Devil.
If you enjoyed this video,please like, share and subscribe
so that we can become latenight hosts one day and sell our
(43:24):
souls to the devil.
You haven't yet.
No, not yet.
I've done lots of other thingsfor the devil, but I haven't
sold my soul yet.
I haven't quite made my.
OnlyFans account.
Yet that's the sign that I'vesold my soul.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
OnlyFans down here, my OnlyFans.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
If I should start an OnlyFans, then just comment
below.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
We want to see your feet.
Michael.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
They are nice feet Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I'll get one subscriber Quentin Tarantino.
I'll cut that one out for you.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
I don't care, it's not like Tarantino is going to
fucking watch this.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Let's make Quentin Tarantino watch this podcast.
Help us, help us.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Send it through.
Tag him in something on socialmedia so that he has to watch my
face, and then he'll find myreview of Once Upon a Time in
Hollywood from a couple of yearsago, where I just shitted on
the movie and then people wereshitting on me for shitting on
the movie, because they werelike you just don't get it, man.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
And then you shat on the people shitting on you on
shitting on the movie, and thenit all became like a shits about
you.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I just ended up shitting on everyone.
It seems to be what I do.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Alright, cool.
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